[00:00] cool [00:00] got this: E: Unable to locate package google-chrome-stable [00:00] Do i need to add the PPA again? [00:01] should not have to. you might have disabled both. in that case, check one of the google repos [00:02] ok [00:02] brb [00:04] back [00:04] ok. The repo isn't there. [00:04] drat. yes, re-enable the google repo [00:05] ok [00:05] you don't actually have to delete them from your list. just check/uncheck as needed [00:06] ok. I added it again and its checked [00:07] so now sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable again, right? [00:08] yes, sir [00:08] lol [00:09] Ok its downloading it now [00:10] cool [00:10] once it's done, in your internet menu, you should see Google Chrome [00:11] run it from there [00:11] ok its done i'll go and try it [00:14] Still not loading it on screen i'm just getting the 2 processes (chrome/chrome & chrome/chrome --type=sandbox-ipc) in the task manager [00:16] Just a thought but reducing my swappiness and installing zRam couldn't be causing this, could they? [00:18] that i have no clue on [00:21] i can't imagine why they would be to be honest cause i only reduced the swappiness to the recommended 10 from 60 and zram by rights has no effect on the applications [00:24] btw any way to make the windows key open the start menu? [00:26] should be. not sure how to remap keys [00:27] ok no worries. I'm thinking i'll just uninstall chrome and install the chromium browser from the software centre and use that instead. [00:28] ok. best of luck to you [00:29] Thanks for trying to help. I really appreciate it. Purge will remove as well wont it? === Guest68041 is now known as Bugbear76 [00:53] Greetings. Which channel do I use for support? =) [00:53] i installed KDE over xubuntu once and got a lightdm config in my settings manager. (launcher -> settings -> settings manager -> lightdm greeter ->) how can i get this without installing kde-desktop? [00:53] this one [00:54] @ Winters [00:54] Thank you kindly. The other two seem dead. =\ [00:54] the channel topic has something to say about that [00:54] but whats going on? [00:55] In all honesty, I am not sure what the different names stand for. I am new to Ubuntu. However, I am trying to get my wireless to work on my laptop. When I go to install the driver, I get an error to read a file I am not sure where it is located. [00:56] I did however, forget to update the new installation. Could this have anything to do with it? [00:56] I am using the 64bit LTS. [00:59] if you can get a wired connection and update, that could help. otherwise it'd help to know what wireless chipset you are using. Go to: launcher menu ("Start") -> terminal emulator -> if internal type: lspci if USB type: lsusb [01:00] I have connected it to wired and downloaded, well tried to download the driver. [01:00] look for where it mentions network stuff [01:00] what driver? [01:00] One sec... [01:02] Broadcom STA wireless driver [01:02] Is what I see. [01:02] yea that chipset is a known issue. the drivers are located on the install medium. [01:03] !b43 [01:03] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [01:03] use the open source drivers, not the proprietary STA driver [01:03] Can you help me with my Canon MX340 network printer driver? [01:03] works much better in most cases [01:03] I am trying to use the scanner and am unable to get that to work. [01:04] do you have xsane? [01:04] And thank you ubottu. [01:04] what are you useing to scan with>? [01:04] What is xsane? [01:04] i have a Pixma MX310 [01:04] I have tried Simple Scan and a fe other ones when I was on Mint. [01:04] Nothing worked. [01:05] Simple Scan or xsane are the recommended apps for scanning documents [01:05] is the scanner local or network? [01:05] I understand. But simple scan did not work. [01:05] Network printer/scanner. [01:05] its not gonna work [01:05] Really? [01:05] at least i dont know how [01:05] Does it have to be connected? [01:06] Like USB? [01:06] i have a Canon Pixma MX310 and it needs to be connected locally for the scanner to work (the printer works fine on the network) [01:06] yeah, usb [01:07] I get you. Well I will try that out. [01:46] Please respond my question: How install adobe flash player for firefox on Ubuntu 13.10 ( Lubuntu ) Thanks [01:46] Hi. Could anyone share a default /etc/sysctl.conf with me? [01:47] Laurentiu: [ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ] [01:47] I messed around with mine without keeping a backup :/ [01:47] Laurentiu: Also, if you're looking for Lubuntu support in the future, you should join the #lubuntu channel. [01:49] theGrg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6660302/ <<< This is mine, from a fresh copy of Ubuntu Studio. You may want to check for anything that says "lowlatency," and change it to "generic" [01:49] Ok, I try, thanks [01:49] Thanks :) === Cajunfiend is now known as Uraziel [05:28] hello i have a quick question whenever i boot xubuntu all programs open where i left off how can i stop this? [05:28] techinstein, settings > sessions and startup > application autostart [05:29] techinstein, see also settings > sessions and startup > session [05:29] you can try unticking the box on logout that offers to remember all the settings.. sometimes, i find i have to blow them out manually [05:30] ok ill report back thanks [05:31] i think its in ~/.cache/sessions that i find them.. im not in front of xfce atm [05:31] unless you find what you are looking for in the autostart area [05:31] i see prompt on log out is checked on general of session start up?? [05:32] techinstein: thats what would be offering to remember everything [05:33] holstein, so un check it and it wont remeber so i can have fresh start correct?? [05:34] techinstein: what im saying is, you untick it and yes, its *supposed* to do that.. but, i have found that i have to go into (iirc) ~/.cache/sessions and move/remove the session manually [05:34] techinstein: this could be due to misonfiguration on my part, or something extra i have always done that i am unaware of.. but, i just repaired it for a lug member the other day who was having the same issue [05:35] holstein, ok look.. http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_-_12302013_-_12_34_02_AM-KQWKPMRP.png [05:36] techinstein: right [05:36] :P [05:36] techinstein: so when you say "logout", you are asked with a tickbox if you would like to save the session.. i have found that when i save a session, its challenging to let that session go back to default by just unticking that box [05:37] im not [05:37] asked [05:37] techinstein: what are you doing? opening up the desktop and finding applications launching? [05:37] i just shut down [05:37] yes [05:37] never happens on manjaro but xubuntu is more stable [05:38] techinstein: try removing the session files i mentioned [05:38] ok [05:38] assume i copy it just in case >.- [05:39] techinstein: you will move it.. or rename, or delete [05:39] techinstein: whatever you want to do to make sure that xfce doesnt find that session file in that location when it logs you in [05:40] techinstein: then, you reboot, and test and see if the system is as you expect [05:40] holstein, one more question on advanced i see compatibility gnome services and kde services does xubuntu also come with kde desktop enviroment? [05:41] techinstein: no [05:41] techinstein: xfce is an entire environment [05:41] techinstein: those tick boxes are more about compatibility [05:41] will then the problem might be becausei checked launch gnome services on start up? lol [05:43] techinstein: i doubt it.. gnome doesnt auto-start your old session.. the session manager would though [05:44] Aha! i had clear saved sessions marked [05:44] its on default i think on ubuntu [05:45] for Xfce [05:45] * techinstein shoots himself in the head....... Na jk [05:45] techinstein: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. but the session manager is different [05:46] i know its just different desktop enviroments === Balsaq is now known as Guest15810 [06:31] hello can some one help me with the network because my wifi is no working [06:31] i speak spanish and english too [06:36] hello need hel with my wifi [06:36] hep [06:36] help === Guest71069 is now known as mapps [09:53] Hi xubuntu developpers, I m with xubuntu 14 on my netbook, yesterday after update, I get one error on terminal: [09:53] as info i don at added any ppa or so: [09:53] Configurando libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386 (0~git20131104-1) ... update-alternatives: error: la ruta alternativa /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtxc_dxtn_s2tc.so.0 no existe dpkg: error al procesar libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386 (--configure): el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 2 Se encontraron errores al procesar: libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code ( [09:59] xubuntu782, the "trusty" version is not supported here. try #ubuntu+1 [10:00] ah ok, thankyou ObrienDave [10:00] yw [11:00] Hi guys, is there anyone here who can answer just one question? [11:01] !anyone | xubuntu375 [11:01] xubuntu375: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [11:06] Hi, well it's not actually a support Q. I'm actually quite new to linux, ordinary desktop user, and i've been liking Xubuntu 13.10. Seems pretty straightforward and intuitive and also modern looking. What i'm interested in is how stable is the project? Would definitely like it being goon in a jiffy like solusos or fuduntu. [11:08] xubuntu375, personally, I think it will be around for as long as Ubuntu and XFCE are developed. [11:09] !flavors [11:09] !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu. [11:10] xubuntu is one of the official flavors, should be around as long as there are people developing it and currently situation doesn't look too bad [11:12] Thank you all. That's very good news. [11:18] I seriously doubt that Xubuntu will *POOF* anytime soon [11:19] unless canonical goes bat and all devs move to some other distro [11:20] there is always that :P [11:20] Sysi: "...like, tomorrow." ;) [11:21] I doubt i ever had such a polished system installed in my life. Only thing that i'd like to see is file manager not displaying full names under folders, so they would be more symetric, like in nautilus. I suppose there's no workaround for that? [11:25] what do you mean by "not displaying full names under folders" [11:29] obriendave, i mean it displays the full name of the folder, and if the folder has a long title, the second row of folders is half a screen away from the upper row. [11:30] And in nautilus, the row spacing is fixed, and the full name of folder displays upon hovering. [11:31] hello [11:51] mautog1, greetings and welcome [11:51] hehehehe [12:05] hello im need help in latest version whisker menu in linux mint 13 lts i can not use whisker menu [12:07] mautog1: you need to ask the mint guys === ponbiki is now known as Guest24869 === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [15:32] Does anyone know the underpinnings to how the "indicator sound service" works? [16:01] Poisoned_Dragon: i don't, however this fixed it for me: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xubuntu-1310-sound-indicator-fix.html [16:06] glenrock, That is thoughful of you, but I'm talking from an operational standpoint. I already know how to fix it when it goes astray. [16:06] Just wanted to know the packages involved. [17:01] hi guys, one Q. I want to install quodlibet, but software center wants to also install gstreamer0.10-alsa. is it okay if i let it install it, considering xubuntu uses pulseaudio? [17:03] sure [17:03] thanks bazhang! [17:03] if you want a more minimalist player, audacious is nice [17:04] quite similar to what xmms was [17:04] (like old winamp) [17:05] it's skinnable as well, iirc [17:05] i was content with gmusicbrowser in12.04, but here when i change the layout to itunes, or rhythmbox or exaile, it just won't sort the songs properly. I set the sorting manualy, but it resets every time. So i wouldn't prefer rhythmbox, as it's not light, and am looking into quodlibet :) [17:07] vlc is not too bad for music nowdays [17:09] Damn, looks nice :D [17:10] quod libet i mean :D [17:11] Must say 13.10 is all kinds of awesome. Looks great, runs great, stable as always. With Xubuntu, one does not know the real reasons of why sticking to an LTS :D Great work developers ! [17:11] + does the project get any donations from purchased stickers on unixstickers? === azeam is now known as azeam_afk [17:25] Hello, I am trying to install xubuntu on to a hard drive. I keep getting an error saying the files are corrupted. I don't understand why I am getting this error, I downlaoded the files from the xubuntu site directly. If anyone has any info or advice, it would be greatly appreciated. [17:25] what files [17:26] it should be a single iso [17:26] did you use some windows tool to extract files? [17:26] no, i did everything linux [17:27] what files [17:27] the grub boot loader [17:27] It kept giving me an error saying it was corrupted [17:28] what exactly did you download [17:28] an iso? [17:28] yes [17:28] why are trying to install them as separate files [17:30] sounds like the iso needs checking [17:30] !md5 [17:30] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [17:31] he quit [17:57] hello. anyone here? [17:59] anyone know if you can setup logical drives after initial install is complete? [18:00] anyone met the problem with installing DROPBOX on Xubuntu? ( "Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory [18:00] Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing. [18:00] ") [18:01] jebs: how did you install dropbox? === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW [18:09] @baizon: tryed it with ubuntu software center [18:09] and console mode also [18:09] budmaester: yes - though it depends on who your partitions are set up as to whether it's easy or not [18:15] @baizon: the ubuntu software center method did not complete so i ended up the process via terminal [18:15] baizon: and after that i've installed it via terminal [18:19] jebs: try clearing the nautlius settings [18:19] or install samba [18:24] baizon: how to clear the nautilus settings? [18:29] baizon: i'll install samba.thanks! [18:32] perhaps he meant thunar, as nautilus is for gnome [18:32] i have a question regarding that my VLC player has a bad quality playback of a highquality mp4 file movie. i thought i could be because my video card isn't recognised and because i have 1 gb ram. what do you think? [18:32] what do other players do eg mplayer [18:32] could be just too much for the system to handle [18:33] i'll try mplayer now. [18:34] hope you're not trying to play HQ mp4 on a very old processor/gpu. [18:34] it's 1080px [18:34] it's an old machine i got togheter to have a local linux in my room :) [18:35] what's you cpu/gpu? [18:35] Is it a desktop? [18:35] i don't even know. i started using it now. [18:35] how do i find out terminal? [18:35] dekstop [18:35] yes [18:35] via terminal [18:35] * [18:35] ctrl alt T [18:36] i know that [18:36] sudo lshw [18:36] in terminal: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model [18:37] AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ [18:37] model: 4 [18:37] shouldn't it run a 1080px movie? [18:38] 720p, maybe [18:38] 1080p, you better have a good gpu [18:38] stick with 480p [18:39] 480p will play smoothly [18:39] oleeee mplayer played it smoothly [18:39] how to open mplayer other than via terminal? [18:39] huh, go figure [18:40] i've opened it as mplayer "movie.mp4" [18:40] but mplayer has no controls [18:40] doesn't xine run as a front end for mplayer? [18:40] if so, you could install that [18:40] xine? i don't know about xine [18:40] !find smplayer [18:40] Found: smplayer, smplayer-themes, smplayer-translations [18:40] ok. [18:41] gmplayer or smplayer I'd imagine [18:41] i install smplayer now [18:42] (i've always trusted vlc in windows, on android, on linux but looks like it isn't the best for every OS) [18:43] I've found mplayer able to handle everything [18:43] but where do i access mplayer? i could open it only via terminal [18:43] I never had issues with vlc [18:44] But, I don't play 1080p on old hardware. [18:44] alt f2 smplayer [18:44] i have issues probably of my processor [18:45] the one thing vlc *will* play that others don't is video.iso [18:46] smplayer is working fine for 1080px. thanks guys! [18:46] alternatively you could right click, open with [18:47] i thought, because smplayer made it's place in the "multimedia" menu too [19:00] xubuntu eats lots of ram [19:01] maybe its some app in particular? [19:01] but ubuntu is even worse. do you have other linux version recommandation? [19:02] mint? [19:02] xubuntu? kubuntu? [19:02] lubuntu [19:02] which it's less ram? [19:02] which eats less ram? [19:02] really? [19:02] yes [19:02] ok. [19:03] is it the best for my little ram? [19:03] Debian xfce should eat least ram [19:03] why not try it [19:03] peyam, but thats not support here [19:03] i never tried Debian. is it "user-friendly"? [19:03] so why suggest it [19:03] "Later testing showed that Xubuntu was at a disadvantage compared to Debian equipped with the Xfce desktop. Tests were conducted by DistroWatch on a Dell Dimension 4500 desktop machine, with an Intel 2 GHz processor and 384 MB of memory in April 2009, that compared Xubuntu 9.04 against an Xfce desktop version of Debian 5.0.1. These showed that Xubuntu used more than twice the RAM as Debian in simple tasks. Xubuntu also ran out of RAM doing [19:03] everyday tasks, indicating that 384 MB of RAM was inadequate. The review concluded "It was obvious I had already run out of RAM and was starting to use swap space. Considering I wasn't doing very much, this was rather disappointing"" [19:04] you can try lubuntu by installing lubuntu-desktop [19:04] but i think i'll stick with lubuntu idea [19:04] !ot | peyam [19:04] peyam: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [19:04] bazhang, should I give him bad advice? just becouse its xubuntu channel? [19:04] peyam, this is not ##linux [19:05] peyam, there are other options, which are supported [19:05] I dont recommend installing lxde dekstop in xubuntu. a fresh install is alwasy recommended [19:05] bazhang, I answered a question and since it is xubuntu channel I have right to say the result of comparision of xubuntu with other distros [19:06] peyam, thats not for here [19:06] this is ubuntu support only, and other supported flavors [19:06] bazhang, still I compare XUBUNTU with other distro.. its related to xubuntu [19:06] peyam, no [19:06] ok. i'll note both. for today i'll try lubuntu. for tomorrow debian. [19:07] bazhang, shut up and dont confuse other! [19:07] jebs, yes Lubuntu sounds good [19:07] i study comp.science so experiences are good. [19:07] peyam, be civil and remain on topic please [19:07] jebs: nothing is going to make your machine any faster.. you might have better luck on something that uses less resources, such as lxde.. you can install lxde and try it out. its never been a problem for me [19:07] jebs: i have had issues installing lubuntu-desktop for example [19:09] i'll give it a try. we'll see how's it doin' [19:09] jebs, other wise do the debian uunstable! it runs with xfce 10 [19:10] peyam: it would run what the user configures it to run, but that is OT here.. try the ot channel for that.. thanks [19:11] holstein, what do you mean? there are documentation that xubuntu eats much more ram than debian. I can see it here on my conky . Im just running xchat and it eats 800 ram [19:11] it is too much [19:11] I have a Compaq 435 Laptop, and the "F3" key alongside with 'T' and 'Y' stopped working. F3 on my laptop-keyboard was the brightening key, now I can't brighten up my screen. How can I fix this? I bought a USB keyboard but that keyboard's F3 key doesn't brighten up. [20:44] help [20:45] need help to install xubuntu 13.10 [20:45] someone there? [21:36] HI I connected Windows Phone 8 to Lubuntu 13.10 and tried to move files insid SD card but i couldnt. I had error that its unsupported.. WHY? [21:37] I get this error: http://i43.tinypic.com/2468htv.png [21:37] you should ask lubuntu or microsoft [21:37] ah [21:37] Gatis, you need to install MTP support. check repos [21:37] that's not an error [21:37] actually it worked [21:37] you can check that the files are there [21:37] what failed is setting the same permissions on the copied files [21:38] because that filesystem doesn't support those permissions [21:38] * ObrienDave goes back to sleep ;P [21:38] TheSheep i can actually copy on SD card, delete from it, but i get this error when i move files inside SD to maps inside SD card [21:39] So SD format is the problem? [21:40] Gatis: it's not really a problem [21:40] the filesystem on the sd card simply doesn't have the same permission system as the linux filesystems [21:40] so transferring the file permissions fails [21:40] but the files should be there [21:40] No i dont see files there :( [21:41] As you see in picture above i tried to put picture in Christmas folder [21:42] im sad [21:43] I suppose that MTP doesn't support overwriting [21:43] But i tried with Android phone in MTP it worked very well [21:43] I wanted to check if MTP is problem [21:45] How to fix this problem? [21:47] !crosspost | Gatis, you were warned in #kubuntu about this [21:47] Gatis, you were warned in #kubuntu about this: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [21:48] Airdroid might work for you. Play store [21:48] I do crosspost to get max help [21:48] But i cant get much help [21:54] Hi, I am trying to create a livecd from scratch with XFCE4 as the main DE. [21:55] When I test the ISO it keeps getting stuck on LightDM [21:55] when I use MATE it does start the desktop. What am I doing wrong? [21:57] I tried /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s xfce4 / xfce4-sesion / xubuntu-session [21:58] oh yes, I also tried with the xubuntu-defaults package. [22:04] helo [22:09] hello [22:10] hello ObrienDave [22:11] why not just install Xubuntu? I have xfwm4 running ;) [22:12] I did that, but I allways wanted to learn how to build a livecd. And I can't find the answer on the interweb :) [22:13] hmm, there is a package to build from scratch. can't think of the name [22:20] hello [22:20] Any body here ? [22:20] i need help please [22:20] nope, never [22:21] can u help me [22:21] that depends on what help you need [22:22] okay [22:22] i just install xubuntu [22:22] on my laptop but its only working in external screen [22:22] by VGA [22:23] the laptop screen is black [22:23] does it work if you disconnect monitor? [22:23] when i start the laptop i have the Acer logo etc... but when xubuntu start it's black [22:23] ya [22:23] ok, sec.... [22:24] i mean is not working when i disconnect the monitor [22:25] can i sed you the output of "sudo lshw -c video" [22:25] ok. let me connect my monitor. just a second please [22:25] ok [22:28] dang, dropped power cord. brb [22:31] root@Acer-Aspire:/# sudo lshw -c video *-display:0 description: VGA compatible controller product: Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0 version: 07 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 [22:32] when i done my research, many person tell me is problem of DISPLAY env setting [22:32] but i don't how to setup it [22:36] ok, under settings manager, run display [22:39] now i'm only connect with ssh [22:40] sorry, i don't know how to do it through ssh [22:52] im running 12.04 and getting a graphics glitch on start up across all my panels/icons and any program i open..after i open something it slowly fixes itself with lots of random black screens after probably 1-2 minutes . have a picture if anyones seen it as well here.. http://i.imgur.com/X6elFYq.jpg [22:55] goodyear_blimp, i would say that your graphics card is getting ready to *POOF*. have you checked ALL of the connections lately? [22:55] its brand new hah :X [22:55] which doesnt mean it cant be broken. [22:55] actually i think its integrated honestly [22:55] Which card is it, and which driver are you using? [22:56] goodyear_blimp, such details would be handy to know [22:56] yes they would.. i will mention i havent had any problem like this with any other distro. have ran a few off live usb [22:57] Well, that's a new one. [22:57] :/ [22:58] Checked logs? [23:00] Hi, can someone tell me how to "daemonize" Thunderbird in Xubuntu so it checks incoming emails even if window is closed ? Or tell me about another mail client ? [23:02] !info alltray [23:02] alltray (source: alltray): Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.71b-1 (saucy), package size 53 kB, installed size 240 kB [23:02] Thanks i'll try that [23:04] my driver is i915 and its an intel integrated card, "hd graphics 2000" [23:05] i dont know really know how to check th logs [23:06] what would i be looking for? [23:13] goodyear_blimp: Well, "Anything that looks interesting" /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg.0.log and `dmesg` [23:17] " EQ overflowing." in xorg [23:18] looked that up and actually reminded me of another thing that happened before the glitching started,which is what he described..all windows froze and had to reboot [23:19] about 6 instances of that listed [23:31] please check all of your connections [23:32] alright i will [23:49] I'm runnign the installer from 13.04 to 13.10 an it's been stuck at "Configuring libxfce4-4" for the past couple hours [23:49] halfway through installing [23:49] it's hogging the disk [23:49] can I abort it? [23:50] Hours? Sounds like something went wrong, or you have a computer from the 90s. [23:52] yeah [23:52] you updating from ISO or do-dist-upgrade? [23:53] it asked me to upgrade and I said, sure, why not, so i guess the second one [23:53] k [23:54] hm [23:54] the log says it finished upgrading that as well as libzephyr4, and it moved on to linux [23:55] not sure if it finished upgrading the kernel [23:55] let it do it's thing [23:55] it's been there for hours [23:55] I'm worried for my disk [23:56] oh, sorry, it's still stuck? [23:57] yeah [23:59] 267140KiB of buffers [23:59] well, i know a dist-upgrade can take quite a while, depending on connection speed, your processing power, etc. [23:59] I think I should just kill it