| James0r | strange. just out of the blue my fn brightness keys work. | 00:53 |
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| viktor | с новым годом! | 04:01 |
| Unit193 | !ru | viktor | 04:03 |
| ubottu | viktor: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 04:03 |
| ignerious_ | helloo | 04:20 |
| ignerious_ | i am unable to boot to windows 8 when my Kubuntu hard drive is attached | 04:22 |
| ignerious_ | please help urgent | 04:22 |
| ignerious_ | it is showing a BSOD with "inacessable_boot_device" | 04:23 |
| ignerious_ | please anyone help | 04:57 |
| ignerious_ | pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 04:57 |
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| amichair | I just got a notification that a new version of Kubuntu is available (I'm on Saucy, with release notifications set to Normal Releases). Strange... | 08:14 |
| valorie | amichair: do you have backports enabled? | 08:20 |
| valorie | perhaps it is a notification of 4.12? | 08:20 |
| lordievader | Goor morning. | 08:22 |
| ghil | morning! | 08:23 |
| lordievader | Ugh made the mistake here too... | 08:23 |
| * lordievader isn't awake yet. | 08:23 | |
| lordievader | Hey ghil, how are you? | 08:23 |
| ghil | great, if tired. It's 3 in the morning where I am :p | 08:23 |
| amichair | valorie: I have backports enabled. and already have 4.12.0. And it was a notification that looks like a new kubuntu release notification... (I clicked on it out of curiosity, but it just disappeared and nothing happened.) | 08:24 |
| valorie | strange | 08:25 |
| amichair | indeed | 08:25 |
| valorie | sounds like apt got confused, which baffled muon | 08:25 |
| amichair | I was running apt-get update & upgrade from cli, with the only update being dropbox package | 08:25 |
| ghil | if it was today's update, there's not just dropbox, but a new linux-generic, image and headers. | 08:33 |
| amichair | Also, ever since I upgraded KDE to 4.12.0, the panel freezes several times a day (rest of desktop, alt-tab etc. are ok), then after a few minutes it unfreezes and goes back to normal. Is this a known issue? | 08:48 |
| valorie | hmmm | 08:49 |
| valorie | I've heard people reporting this, but not so much kubuntu people | 08:49 |
| valorie | I wonder if it's a kernel or driver problem? | 08:50 |
| valorie | I experience nothing like this | 08:50 |
| amichair | valorie: I was wondering too. I can't use desktop effects for about a year now, which I tend to blame on the nvidia driver (just a guess). But this being only the panel and not other stuff, I tend to point the finger at kde more than the drivers. I may be wrong. | 08:51 |
| amichair | plus, as far as I know it started happening right with the 4.12.0 update | 08:52 |
| valorie | you might look at bugs.kde.org and see if anyone has something similar | 08:53 |
| valorie | chime in on it | 08:53 |
| amichair | in the past year my experience with kubuntu/kde/nvidia went from an awesome working desktop to no effects, flaky multi-monitor support, and now frozen panel. I'm actually considering trying a different distro for the first time since I started using kubunut at 6.06 :-( | 08:54 |
| amichair | (and a bunch of other little annoyances too) | 08:55 |
| valorie | :( | 08:55 |
| valorie | there are lots of ISOs out there | 08:55 |
| valorie | this isn't religion -- you should have something that works for ya | 08:56 |
| amichair | true | 08:56 |
| amichair | but it would be a hard break-up :-) | 08:56 |
| valorie | you can always double-boot | 08:56 |
| amichair | maybe I'll give a shot at manually installing the latest nvidia drivers first. should I expect any issues with that? | 08:58 |
| valorie | here's what i know: | 09:00 |
| valorie | !nvidia | 09:00 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 09:00 |
| valorie | :-) | 09:00 |
| valorie | I've not had to do special drivers for many years | 09:00 |
| amichair | valorie: me neither | 09:16 |
| amichair | I thought those days were behind me | 09:16 |
| amichair | darn, 331 isn't available in saucy repos | 09:17 |
| amichair | I'll try it straight from nvidia website | 09:17 |
| amichair | wish me luck :-) | 09:19 |
| valorie | luck, amichair! | 09:20 |
| ghil | rah, I saw his message way too late, it would've been better to add the X updates PPA. | 09:26 |
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| amichair | well I got back to the desktop, so that's a good start | 09:35 |
| lordievader | amichair: Yayy, but is the driver loaded? | 09:35 |
| amichair | I've turned on effects, so I think so. How do I check? | 09:36 |
| amichair | now with effects and second monitor turned on only a few window contents go black isntead of both screens going black... so that's an improvement too! | 09:36 |
| lordievader | amichair: lscpi -k |grep -A 2 VGA | 09:36 |
| amichair | Kernel driver in use: nvidia | 09:37 |
| amichair | is that the line I'm looking for? | 09:37 |
| lordievader | amichair: Exactly, and that should be the closed source driver. Else it would read nouveau I suppose. | 09:38 |
| amichair | ok, so now I just have to keep working until a panel freeze occurs (or not) | 09:38 |
| ghil | also it's lspci, not lscpi. | 09:38 |
| amichair | ghil: yeah, got that :-) | 09:38 |
| ghil | :) | 09:39 |
| ghil | that makes me think I haven't updated my server's driver yet. | 09:39 |
| * lordievader still isn't awake... | 09:39 | |
| amichair | those black windows... I've seen them before too. minimize+restore brings the window content back. | 09:39 |
| amichair | You think that's also the driver's fault? | 09:40 |
| ghil | not likely. I'm thinking the compositor. | 09:40 |
| ghil | or a brilliant mix of the two. | 09:40 |
| amichair | who's the compositor in this case? | 09:40 |
| amichair | kwin? | 09:41 |
| ghil | yep. | 09:41 |
| amichair | hmmm I thought they switched to lightdm... or maybe I'm mixing things up. They're both window managers? | 09:41 |
| ghil | lightdm is the display manager. | 09:42 |
| amichair | I don't see it in the process list | 09:42 |
| amichair | darn, I just turned off the second monitor, and the first one went black (other than cursor). So that issue is still there. And I still can't leave desktop effects on :-( | 09:43 |
| ghil | did you recently update Xorg? | 09:44 |
| ghil | did you try changing the effects from openGL to Xrender? | 09:45 |
| amichair | what's the xorg package name to check? | 09:45 |
| ghil | (Desktop Effects, Advanced, Compositing Type: Xrender) | 09:46 |
| amichair | I've had this problem for months now, so not sure if it followed an xorg update at the time | 09:46 |
| ghil | try Xrender first, then we'll see if we have to update xorg, but I don't think it's the problem. | 09:46 |
| amichair | ghil: and qt graphics system native or raster (it was raster, but when changing to xrender it reverted to native) | 09:47 |
| amichair | ? | 09:47 |
| ghil | yeah that's normal. | 09:47 |
| ghil | go for native. | 09:47 |
| ghil | Raster is somewhat slower anyway. | 09:47 |
| amichair | "failed to activate desktop effects..." | 09:47 |
| amichair | ghil: what next? | 09:49 |
| ghil | hmm..I've been checking forums (I'm pretty much out of ideas at this point) and you're definitely not alone. What is your graphic card? | 09:49 |
| amichair | nvidia 9300 | 09:50 |
| amichair | hmmm... I just tried opengl 2.0 again, but changed raster -> native | 09:50 |
| ghil | did it work? | 09:51 |
| amichair | turning on/off second monitor appears ok! | 09:51 |
| ghil | Ooooh. | 09:51 |
| ghil | :D | 09:51 |
| amichair | I'll leave it like this for now for a few days of natural use, see how it goes... | 09:52 |
| amichair | ghil: thanks! | 09:52 |
| amichair | and still wait for some panel freezes too | 09:52 |
| amichair | who knows, maybe they only occur with effects off :-) | 09:52 |
| ghil | :) | 09:53 |
| amichair | btw newer nvidia drivers don't get backported in repos right? | 09:53 |
| amichair | I'll have to stick with manual updates until the next release? | 09:53 |
| ghil | yeah no they don't. you can go a little bleeding edge and add the xedgers PPA though. | 09:54 |
| ghil | I wouldn't recommend it on a production machine, but if you're feeling lucky and know how to revert packages, it's always up to date. | 09:54 |
| ghil | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates | 09:55 |
| amichair | ghil: I read about it, but got the impression it'll update all sorts of other stuff, and I'd rather keep it down to a minimum. | 09:55 |
| amichair | and the nvidia drivers installed dkms, so as I understand it there will be no problem with kernel updates etc. | 09:55 |
| ghil | oh it will. It updates Xorg/nvidia to it's latest incarnation always. It's not debian stable, if you know what I mean. | 09:56 |
| amichair | (I used to need to re-install the drivers each time the kernel was updated in older versions, if memory serves) | 09:56 |
| ghil | essentially yeah, but you can't be sure. | 09:56 |
| ghil | yeah an headers and image refresh was necessary each time. | 09:56 |
| ghil | but normally nowadays, everything's fine. | 09:57 |
| amichair | valorie, ghil: well thanks again, I'll run it like this and see to what new and exciting issues it takes me ;-) | 09:58 |
| ghil | good luck, if there's anything we're there :P | 09:58 |
| amichair | ghil: much appreciated :-) | 09:58 |
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| ghil | I'm wondering something weird...would it be possible to sync my configs (like my zshrc) through dropbox so that my server and computer and work computer all have the same configs? I think I'm gonna search for that :D | 11:07 |
| vmusr | ghil, sure but you'll automate it | 11:08 |
| vmusr | need to* | 11:08 |
| vmusr | like on login or via cron | 11:09 |
| ghil | oh, via cron would be nice. o.O thanks for the tip vmusr | 11:09 |
| vmusr | ghil, np just keep in mind that you'll have to make sure that the environment is perfectly the same | 11:11 |
| vmusr | otherwise even an small update might screw you big time | 11:11 |
| ghil | I'll keep that in mind. thanks :) | 11:14 |
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| sark25 | #kde-in | 11:22 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 13:21 |
| thelionroars | happy new year | 13:22 |
| ghil | morning :) | 13:22 |
| BluesKaj | happy new year to all | 13:23 |
| === feisar is now known as Guest62638 | ||
| Whiskey`Wonka | arrhg | 14:33 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | ok so some oddness with my touchpad. it doesnt multi touch ... | 14:34 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | and tpconfig only works with ps2 (/dev/psaux) devices??? | 14:39 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | ok i need to resize the touch pad, this design is horrible. what software on linux lets you do that? windows has the synaptic software | 14:46 |
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| === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake | ||
| BluesKaj | looking for a method to prevent blank screen on this lenovo G500 when the HDMI is connected to an external monitor. The external is fine (HDTV) with correct res and audio. | 16:09 |
| === Steakanbake is now known as Steakanbake|slee | ||
| geothom | happy new year everyone | 17:02 |
| === mj is now known as Guest17684 | ||
| === Guest17684 is now known as mapyth | ||
| ptomblin | Hey all, I just tried to set up a second video card and a third monitor, and now everything is screwed up. | 17:18 |
| ptomblin | Can anybody help me? | 17:18 |
| ptomblin | I had the two monitors set up using "Twin View" and it worked great, but with the htird monitor it made me make it a separate x screen, so now I can move my cursor from one screen to another but I can't drag a window from one to the other. | 17:19 |
| jalcine | ptomblin: can you manually switch screens using Kwin? | 17:43 |
| jalcine | like when you open the window's menu and select Screen | 17:43 |
| ptomblin | No, it shows all three screens, but it won't move the window to them. | 17:43 |
| ptomblin | What I can do is add a panel to the other screens and start apps on them, but evidently if I have that app already running on the main screen, it goes there instead. | 17:47 |
| ptomblin | And the system settings -> display and monitor will only show the monitor that it's currently running on. | 17:48 |
| === JeroenDeDauw is now known as JeroenDeDauw|afk | ||
| === ahmed is now known as Guest65820 | ||
| ptomblin | Ok, now I have two options: | 19:03 |
| ptomblin | - I went into nvidia-settings an enabled xinerama, and things are working right (although they're a bit flickery) | 19:04 |
| ptomblin | - I booted from a live CD, and everything worked right, and wasn't flickery. | 19:04 |
| ptomblin | So supposing I wanted to get rid of all the fancy nvidia stuff and make it configure itself the way it does when I booted the live CD, what do I need to do? Delete xorg.conf? Blow away my .kde directory? | 19:07 |
| === korrode is now known as Guest87738 | ||
| garrett_ | I hope someone can help me, I'm running Kubuntu 13.10, on an Acer laptop. I decided to install Wicd, I downloaded both Wicd, and a backup copy of Network Manager, and also a copy of Connman. NM, and Wicd are both debian.tar.gz, Connman is a .deb. I uninstalled NM, then Wicd would not intstall, neither would CM. Tried to reinstall NM no luck either. | 20:27 |
| garrett_ | When trying NM, or Wicd, in terminal I always get, "file not found", "file does not exist", or "not a directory". | 20:28 |
| BluesKaj | garrett_, where you trying wicd from, it should be in your /home/user/Downloads file and may need to be extracted there | 20:31 |
| garrett_ | Actually I moved it to the home folder, so I wouldn't have to "cd" anywhere. I've read probably a hundred how-to's, and followed them completly, with no luck. | 20:32 |
| garrett_ | I extracted, read the "Read Me Install" file, followed it, but the terminal will not find it. Or gives some kind of error. | 20:33 |
| === asus is now known as Guest39956 | ||
| BluesKaj | garrett_, what wifi chip , lspci -nn | egrep -i 'net|wire' | 20:35 |
| Guest87738 | is there irc channels for advice? | 20:51 |
| aoms | hello | 21:36 |
| Jeruvy | I may even kiss a few not so nice ;D | 22:17 |
| Jeruvy | oops wrong channel :) | 22:17 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | oops indeed | 22:18 |
| Jeruvy | Well since I'm already OT, Happy New Years :) | 22:19 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | lol, Happy New Year | 22:20 |
| === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake | ||
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