[02:49] <Guest89396> Hi everyone
[02:52] <Noskcaj> hey Guest89396
[02:53] <Guest89396> I'm a Computer Science student, interested in contributing to Ubuntu, currently reading this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu Haven't used IRC before so was just checking it works
[02:53] <Guest89396> which is does, thanks @Noskcaj
[02:54] <Noskcaj> no problem. It's great to have another new contributor. Try and have irc online as much as possible, since it makes it easier to contact you, and more people will recognize you.
[05:05] <hyperair> something's odd with upstart.
[05:06] <hyperair> it's taking up 200MB of memory on my machine. how odd.
[05:06] <hyperair> at least, the init --user process
[11:45] <Whoopsie> Can someone help me fix this error http://askubuntu.com/questions/397724/quickly-error-cant-create-or-update-ubuntu-package
[15:06] <mitya57> cjwatson: What was wrong with Debian version of python-qt4? I saw you changed something, but then wgrant_ reverted that.
[16:06] <xnox> mitya57: i think this is all influx trying to support multiple python 3 versions at the same time. As at the moment work is underway to enable 3.4 and 3.3 both as supported versions. 3.3 still the default at hte moment.
[16:07] <xnox> mitya57: some of the things are fixed by latest python3.4 upload https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/3.4~b1-4ubuntu5 which still needs python3-defaults rebuild.
[16:09] <mitya57> xnox: the Debian version of pyqt4 should build fine for multiple python3 versions (that worked in 3.2/3.3 times), but it looks like cjwatson didn't like something
[16:10] <xnox> mitya57: nobody denies that it builds =) it didn't provide correct pyqtconfig, and thus pykde4 was FTBFS with not able to find/import pyqtconfig. That's as much as I know. Let me look up FTBFS build logs, if not cobbled over.
[16:10] <mitya57> That's a bit more helpful, then why was it reverted?
[16:11] <xnox> mitya57: i think buildlogs got overriden, but there is another upload of pykde4 to fix 3.3&3.4 compat.
[16:11] <xnox> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/161093392/pykde4_4%3A4.12.0-0ubuntu1_4%3A4.12.0-0ubuntu2.diff.gz
[16:12] <xnox> not sure why wgrant_ is removing ABITAG renaming =/
[16:12] <xnox> ... unless that is done elsewhere / later.
[16:13] <xnox> nah, looks like everything is properly abitagged in the debs.
[16:14] <cjwatson> mitya57: wgrant didn't revert it, he fixed it harder
[16:14] <mitya57> My main question is whether I should include cjwatson's changes in Debian or not
[16:15] <mitya57> cjwatson: no, it is a revert
[16:15] <mitya57> The current d/rules in Ubuntu and Debian are equivalent
[16:15] <cjwatson> mitya57: I beg to differ, I've read the change and it isn't
[16:15] <cjwatson> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/161093392/pykde4_4%3A4.12.0-0ubuntu1_4%3A4.12.0-0ubuntu2.diff.gz is not a revert of anything I did
[16:15] <cjwatson> er whoops that's pykde4, let me recheck
[16:17] <cjwatson> huh, so it is.  perhaps I made a mistake then, sorry
[16:17] <cjwatson> I initially tried to get it to build with the new python-defaults and it failed, but I no longer have the log
[16:18] <cjwatson> mitya57: So I guess pretend that never happened and we can sync over it next time
[16:18] <cjwatson> sorry for the confusion
[16:18] <mitya57> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[16:20] <cjwatson> I probably got confused at some point in the six-hour build time on my laptop :-/
[17:21] <xnox> cjwatson: mitya57: i think it's relevant that python-defaults & python3.4 had fixes in the mean time. E.g. it used to be correct to patch the way cjwatson did, until python-defaults/python3.4 got re-fixed.
[17:23] <mitya57> You mean python3-defaults
[17:23] <mitya57> Thanks for investigation!
[17:54] <cjwatson> xnox: ah, could be