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dwatkinsmorning!08:38
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:24
MartijnVdS\o09:25
bigcalmHi MartijnVdS, good holiday?09:26
MartijnVdSworking today09:27
MartijnVdSgoing home early though09:27
bigcalmBut did you get some holiday before today?09:28
bigcalmAh, that's good09:28
MartijnVdSbigcalm: yeah, from Christmas -> Sunday09:28
bigcalmMagic :)09:28
MartijnVdSand tomorrow as well09:28
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bigcalm"complaints to /dev/null" always makes me smile09:48
bigcalmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSn2JuDQSc09:50
MartijnVdSbigcalm: did you see the video about time yesterday?09:50
bigcalmI don't think I did09:50
MartijnVdSbigcalm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY09:51
bigcalmI've had to deal with this horribleness09:54
MartijnVdSme too. Just use unixtime everywhere and change it when displaying :)09:56
bigcalmSadly not that easy09:57
MartijnVdSit's a good start usually09:57
bigcalmYes09:57
bigcalmThanks for showing me that video :)10:02
MartijnVdSI like how he becomes angrier and angrier towards the end :)10:02
dwatkinshaha, fun with timezones - much like my day job10:03
dwatkinsMostly I encounter people in the US who don't seem to appreciate that the UK is 8 hours ahead of them, occasionally the opposite.10:03
MartijnVdSjust do everything on .beats10:03
dwatkinseveryone should use GMT epoch seconds10:04
bigcalmWhat's the alternative to screen that everybody loves?10:06
dwatkinstmux10:06
MartijnVdSbyobu  + tmux10:06
MartijnVdSI can't get used to tmux on its own10:07
bigcalmEh?10:07
MartijnVdSbyobu is a wrapper around screen/tmux (configurable)10:07
bigcalmAh, okay10:07
bigcalmInstalling byobu installs tmux10:07
MartijnVdSyes that's the default these days10:08
MartijnVdSas tmux is actually maintained, while screen is almost dead10:08
MartijnVdSalso, tmux supports Unicode 6 characters.. screen breaks those long UTF-8 sequences10:08
MartijnVdS😎10:08
bigcalmTo connect to a serial device, I could do something like "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200"10:09
MartijnVdSyes, that's the only thing I use screen for now :)10:09
bigcalmReplacing screen with byobu doesn't work10:09
dwatkinsI'd switch to tmux on the machine I run my irssi session from, but that would mean closing irssi, which I've done about five times in as many years.10:09
bigcalmdwatkins: you don't like applying new kernels then?10:10
dwatkinsbigcalm: it's not my server - it's an OpenBSD machine run by a friend10:10
dwatkinsHe does update it occasionally.10:10
bigcalmAha, byobu-screen will force the use of screen :)10:10
bigcalmWaiting for a delivery. Need the loo. Chances that delivery happens when I'm unavailable? 1:110:16
dwatkinstake the doorbell with you10:17
brobostigongood morning everyone.10:17
Laneymmm dspam10:19
daubersMorning10:41
mappsmornijg10:48
foobarryis there anything so impatient as an unwell baby?11:05
dwatkinsa teenager11:34
Laneyoh yay, it's freenode global notice spam day11:39
KrimZonand by yay I presume you mean "**** OFF"11:40
Laneyno comment11:42
foobarryi think i turned off those kind of messages12:01
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DJonesHmmh, great advert for Currys sales assistants, my 73 year non-technical mum  went into currys to look at tablets and came away realising that she knew more about them than the sales staff15:00
penguin42haha15:02
foobarrywow15:06
foobarrypicked up 4 airfix kits from nearby aldi @ £3.49 each :D15:09
foobarryincluding paints etc, will be great for indoctrinating nephews into a noble hobby15:10
popeyyay15:11
gordonjcpDJones: heh15:15
gordonjcpDJones: don't underestimate non-technical 70-something mums15:15
gordonjcpDJones: my mum installed Ubuntu 11.04 on her laptop a couple of years ago15:15
gordonjcpshe bought it second-hand from a friend of hers, it had XP on it, she hated XP and wanted Ubuntu like on her desktop machine15:16
gordonjcplike she frequently says "if you can read, you can cook", so she set about finding out how to make a USB stick and install Ubuntu15:16
gordonjcptook about an hour and a half, including the time it took to pop into town for a blank USB stick15:16
gordonjcpher broadband is way faster than mine15:17
foobarrynice story about original doge http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/31/5248762/doge-meme-rescue-dog-wow15:26
dwatkinsMyrtti: http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/31/5248762/doge-meme-rescue-dog-wow15:31
dwatkinsoops15:31
dwatkinsMyrtti may enjoy this.15:32
directhexsuch article15:32
dwatkinsvery read15:32
directhexmuch words15:32
popeyI can't really quantify how much I don't care about Doge15:34
directhexpopey, much disinterest15:42
dwatkinsvery dodge15:42
foobarry popey> I can't really quantify how much I don't care about dogs*15:46
MartijnVdSdoges?15:47
foobarrymy dog ate something sharp and had to go to vet on xmas eve  :(15:47
foobarryblood everywhere, puke and poo15:47
MartijnVdSa spicy curry?15:47
foobarrypiece of uncooked pasta15:47
foobarryor a crisp15:47
penguin42you wouldn't have thought a crisp could screw a dog up that badly?15:48
foobarryyeah15:48
foobarryblood stains are on the stair carpet still15:48
foobarryit was everywhere15:48
directhexfreenode ¬_¬15:56
MartijnVdSstahp! freenode!15:57
DJonesfoobarry: Did the crisp/pasta cut the insude of the dogs throat?15:58
MooDoohello all16:04
popeyHappy new year16:04
dwatkinsyet again, Ubuntu saves an otherwise disastrous day16:04
MooDoosame to you popey :) and everyone else!16:04
dwatkinswell, sort of - a discussion on Wacom tablets and tablet PCs was useful to me16:04
* MartijnVdS checks popey's time zone16:05
dogmatic69anyone hacked a tivo? looking to replace the 500GB hdd with 3TB / 4TB16:14
dogmatic69from what I read its as simple as remove and replace, with option of copying existing data over first16:14
dogmatic69was thinking something like dd16:16
penguin42I don't know about Tivo, but can it cope with the large drives - probably 4kb sectors?16:17
directhexand GPT, if it boots from the drive16:22
directhexeven if it doesn't boot from it, GPT is needed for drives >2T to be partitionable16:22
dogmatic69penguin42: the new ones apparently can use > 2GB16:25
dogmatic69seems like there is an out the box bootable mini linux type disk to use that will do it all16:25
foobarryDJones: doges stomach16:33
foobarryi just purchased my annual train ticket :( £1208 i dont want to spend after xmas16:34
penguin42ouch16:35
foobarrycould be £800  more but i avoid zone 1 with a bit of extra walking16:35
popeywoot16:58
popeydug out netbook, installed on Jul 13 201116:58
ali1234bug 126521917:22
lubotu3bug 1265219 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Unchecked checkboxes remain checked while mouse is over them" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126521917:22
MooDoosounds like people are having fun17:46
foobarryargh got to renew tv olicence  too :(17:55
* popey consumes some of the kids xmas chocolate17:57
MooDoo:)17:57
MooDooHaribo for me :D18:02
foobarrywifey got some liquers for me18:02
popey*hic*18:02
foobarryplus strawberry licorice and some hotel chocolat salted stuff18:03
foobarrystarting to think shaun the sheep is actually one of my favourite tv programmes18:05
popeyTIMMY TIME!18:05
MooDoolol it's great18:05
foobarryhow does timmy time compare?18:06
MooDoofoobarry: you need to watch all of this to understand ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu0HpvGXOmY18:09
sebsebsebhi18:58
popeyhello19:01
MooDoohi sebsebseb19:06
sebsebsebpopey: MooDoo hi19:06
MooDooout later celebrating sebsebseb ?19:10
sebsebsebMooDoo: are you?19:10
MooDoosebsebseb: nah one day of the year i'm not really all that bothered about19:11
sebsebsebMooDoo: yeah indeed19:11
sebsebsebMooDoo:   I don't care that much about it either19:11
sebsebseb,but19:11
sebsebsebMooDoo: there's a podacst going on again19:11
sebsebseb:D19:11
sebsebseb26 hours new years one19:12
sebsebsebMooDoo: you don't like new years how come?19:13
MooDoosebsebseb: just another day...19:13
sebsebsebyeah unless doing something for it19:13
SuperEngineerthat darn steam sale had better finish early... can't keep increasing the partition size forever y'know?!  ;)19:41
SuperEngineer#partition_size != #wallet_size19:43
MooDoolol19:44
mappsyo19:46
SuperEngineeryo y'all19:47
mappsyou get some right clowns at the casino:D i was at Genting casino last night and some african guys drunk teling me how he's a big time football agent and has loadsa $$$ then says he's going to Matalan to buy a suit19:48
mappslol19:48
mappsbecause that's where all the rich loaded people would buy a suit19:48
SuperEngineermapps - but that *is* where they go... ask Mssrs Matalan if you don't believe me ;)19:49
mappsMssrs?:)19:49
mappsand course it isnt19:49
mappsi have a suit that cost me 500 quid and im not a millionaire19:50
mappsthis guy was trying to claim he was absolutely loded..football agent rtollng in cash19:50
SuperEngineer...but £500 from now you will be,,,19:50
SuperEngineer[& if you're allowed "rtolling" - I'm allowed "Mssrs"19:51
mappsheh19:59
SuperEngineermapps: meh19:59
ali1234you don't get rich by giving away money you know20:00
mappsagreed20:01
ali1234the thing about really expensive luxury items is rich people don't buy them, they get them for free20:01
mappsyea20:01
SuperEngineer...& then they go to gaol20:02
mappssome of the temperatures these folks around the world get are crazy20:05
penguin42in which direction?20:11
mappswell20:11
mappslike 37c is real hot..too hot for me i think20:11
mappsbut then -15 is like lol obviously crazy cold20:11
penguin42yeh20:11
mappsOregon and Argentina there20:11
mappsi cant even imagine how cold -15 is20:11
mappspeople here all moan when its like 1/2c20:11
mapps'coldest day ever boo hoo'20:11
penguin42yeh, this penguin wouldn't like it that cold20:16
SuperEngineerwhy not ask those stuck in that research ship trapped in antartica20:21
SuperEngineer..or those in USA currently in turmoil from exrtaordinarty arctic winds20:23
SuperEngineer..me - I'm asking friend in Oz - makes life seem much better ;)20:23
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