[08:38] <dwatkins> morning!
[09:24] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:25] <MartijnVdS> \o
[09:26] <bigcalm> Hi MartijnVdS, good holiday?
[09:27] <MartijnVdS> working today
[09:27] <MartijnVdS> going home early though
[09:28] <bigcalm> But did you get some holiday before today?
[09:28] <bigcalm> Ah, that's good
[09:28] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: yeah, from Christmas -> Sunday
[09:28] <bigcalm> Magic :)
[09:28] <MartijnVdS> and tomorrow as well
[09:48] <bigcalm> "complaints to /dev/null" always makes me smile
[09:50] <bigcalm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSn2JuDQSc
[09:50] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: did you see the video about time yesterday?
[09:50] <bigcalm> I don't think I did
[09:51] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY
[09:54] <bigcalm> I've had to deal with this horribleness
[09:56] <MartijnVdS> me too. Just use unixtime everywhere and change it when displaying :)
[09:57] <bigcalm> Sadly not that easy
[09:57] <MartijnVdS> it's a good start usually
[09:57] <bigcalm> Yes
[10:02] <bigcalm> Thanks for showing me that video :)
[10:02] <MartijnVdS> I like how he becomes angrier and angrier towards the end :)
[10:03] <dwatkins> haha, fun with timezones - much like my day job
[10:03] <dwatkins> Mostly I encounter people in the US who don't seem to appreciate that the UK is 8 hours ahead of them, occasionally the opposite.
[10:03] <MartijnVdS> just do everything on .beats
[10:04] <dwatkins> everyone should use GMT epoch seconds
[10:06] <bigcalm> What's the alternative to screen that everybody loves?
[10:06] <dwatkins> tmux
[10:06] <MartijnVdS> byobu  + tmux
[10:07] <MartijnVdS> I can't get used to tmux on its own
[10:07] <bigcalm> Eh?
[10:07] <MartijnVdS> byobu is a wrapper around screen/tmux (configurable)
[10:07] <bigcalm> Ah, okay
[10:07] <bigcalm> Installing byobu installs tmux
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> yes that's the default these days
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> as tmux is actually maintained, while screen is almost dead
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> also, tmux supports Unicode 6 characters.. screen breaks those long UTF-8 sequences
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> 😎
[10:09] <bigcalm> To connect to a serial device, I could do something like "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200"
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> yes, that's the only thing I use screen for now :)
[10:09] <bigcalm> Replacing screen with byobu doesn't work
[10:09] <dwatkins> I'd switch to tmux on the machine I run my irssi session from, but that would mean closing irssi, which I've done about five times in as many years.
[10:10] <bigcalm> dwatkins: you don't like applying new kernels then?
[10:10] <dwatkins> bigcalm: it's not my server - it's an OpenBSD machine run by a friend
[10:10] <dwatkins> He does update it occasionally.
[10:10] <bigcalm> Aha, byobu-screen will force the use of screen :)
[10:16] <bigcalm> Waiting for a delivery. Need the loo. Chances that delivery happens when I'm unavailable? 1:1
[10:17] <dwatkins> take the doorbell with you
[10:17] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:19] <Laney> mmm dspam
[10:41] <daubers> Morning
[10:48] <mapps> mornijg
[11:05] <foobarry> is there anything so impatient as an unwell baby?
[11:34] <dwatkins> a teenager
[11:39] <Laney> oh yay, it's freenode global notice spam day
[11:40] <KrimZon> and by yay I presume you mean "**** OFF"
[11:42] <Laney> no comment
[12:01] <foobarry> i think i turned off those kind of messages
[15:00] <DJones> Hmmh, great advert for Currys sales assistants, my 73 year non-technical mum  went into currys to look at tablets and came away realising that she knew more about them than the sales staff
[15:02] <penguin42> haha
[15:06] <foobarry> wow
[15:09] <foobarry> picked up 4 airfix kits from nearby aldi @ £3.49 each :D
[15:10] <foobarry> including paints etc, will be great for indoctrinating nephews into a noble hobby
[15:11] <popey> yay
[15:15] <gordonjcp> DJones: heh
[15:15] <gordonjcp> DJones: don't underestimate non-technical 70-something mums
[15:15] <gordonjcp> DJones: my mum installed Ubuntu 11.04 on her laptop a couple of years ago
[15:16] <gordonjcp> she bought it second-hand from a friend of hers, it had XP on it, she hated XP and wanted Ubuntu like on her desktop machine
[15:16] <gordonjcp> like she frequently says "if you can read, you can cook", so she set about finding out how to make a USB stick and install Ubuntu
[15:16] <gordonjcp> took about an hour and a half, including the time it took to pop into town for a blank USB stick
[15:17] <gordonjcp> her broadband is way faster than mine
[15:26] <foobarry> nice story about original doge http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/31/5248762/doge-meme-rescue-dog-wow
[15:31] <dwatkins> Myrtti: http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/31/5248762/doge-meme-rescue-dog-wow
[15:31] <dwatkins> oops
[15:32] <dwatkins> Myrtti may enjoy this.
[15:32] <directhex> such article
[15:32] <dwatkins> very read
[15:32] <directhex> much words
[15:34] <popey> I can't really quantify how much I don't care about Doge
[15:42] <directhex> popey, much disinterest
[15:42] <dwatkins> very dodge
[15:46] <foobarry>  popey> I can't really quantify how much I don't care about dogs*
[15:47] <MartijnVdS> doges?
[15:47] <foobarry> my dog ate something sharp and had to go to vet on xmas eve  :(
[15:47] <foobarry> blood everywhere, puke and poo
[15:47] <MartijnVdS> a spicy curry?
[15:47] <foobarry> piece of uncooked pasta
[15:47] <foobarry> or a crisp
[15:48] <penguin42> you wouldn't have thought a crisp could screw a dog up that badly?
[15:48] <foobarry> yeah
[15:48] <foobarry> blood stains are on the stair carpet still
[15:48] <foobarry> it was everywhere
[15:56] <directhex> freenode ¬_¬
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> stahp! freenode!
[15:58] <DJones> foobarry: Did the crisp/pasta cut the insude of the dogs throat?
[16:04] <MooDoo> hello all
[16:04] <popey> Happy new year
[16:04] <dwatkins> yet again, Ubuntu saves an otherwise disastrous day
[16:04] <MooDoo> same to you popey :) and everyone else!
[16:04] <dwatkins> well, sort of - a discussion on Wacom tablets and tablet PCs was useful to me
[16:05]  * MartijnVdS checks popey's time zone
[16:14] <dogmatic69> anyone hacked a tivo? looking to replace the 500GB hdd with 3TB / 4TB
[16:14] <dogmatic69> from what I read its as simple as remove and replace, with option of copying existing data over first
[16:16] <dogmatic69> was thinking something like dd
[16:17] <penguin42> I don't know about Tivo, but can it cope with the large drives - probably 4kb sectors?
[16:22] <directhex> and GPT, if it boots from the drive
[16:22] <directhex> even if it doesn't boot from it, GPT is needed for drives >2T to be partitionable
[16:25] <dogmatic69> penguin42: the new ones apparently can use > 2GB
[16:25] <dogmatic69> seems like there is an out the box bootable mini linux type disk to use that will do it all
[16:33] <foobarry> DJones: doges stomach
[16:34] <foobarry> i just purchased my annual train ticket :( £1208 i dont want to spend after xmas
[16:35] <penguin42> ouch
[16:35] <foobarry> could be £800  more but i avoid zone 1 with a bit of extra walking
[16:58] <popey> woot
[16:58] <popey> dug out netbook, installed on Jul 13 2011
[17:22] <ali1234> bug 1265219
[17:46] <MooDoo> sounds like people are having fun
[17:55] <foobarry> argh got to renew tv olicence  too :(
[17:57]  * popey consumes some of the kids xmas chocolate
[17:57] <MooDoo> :)
[18:02] <MooDoo> Haribo for me :D
[18:02] <foobarry> wifey got some liquers for me
[18:02] <popey> *hic*
[18:03] <foobarry> plus strawberry licorice and some hotel chocolat salted stuff
[18:05] <foobarry> starting to think shaun the sheep is actually one of my favourite tv programmes
[18:05] <popey> TIMMY TIME!
[18:05] <MooDoo> lol it's great
[18:06] <foobarry> how does timmy time compare?
[18:09] <MooDoo> foobarry: you need to watch all of this to understand ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu0HpvGXOmY
[18:58] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:01] <popey> hello
[19:06] <MooDoo> hi sebsebseb
[19:06] <sebsebseb> popey: MooDoo hi
[19:10] <MooDoo> out later celebrating sebsebseb ?
[19:10] <sebsebseb> MooDoo: are you?
[19:11] <MooDoo> sebsebseb: nah one day of the year i'm not really all that bothered about
[19:11] <sebsebseb> MooDoo: yeah indeed
[19:11] <sebsebseb> MooDoo:   I don't care that much about it either
[19:11] <sebsebseb> ,but
[19:11] <sebsebseb> MooDoo: there's a podacst going on again
[19:11] <sebsebseb> :D
[19:12] <sebsebseb> 26 hours new years one
[19:13] <sebsebseb> MooDoo: you don't like new years how come?
[19:13] <MooDoo> sebsebseb: just another day...
[19:13] <sebsebseb> yeah unless doing something for it
[19:41] <SuperEngineer> that darn steam sale had better finish early... can't keep increasing the partition size forever y'know?!  ;)
[19:43] <SuperEngineer> #partition_size != #wallet_size
[19:44] <MooDoo> lol
[19:46] <mapps> yo
[19:47] <SuperEngineer> yo y'all
[19:48] <mapps> you get some right clowns at the casino:D i was at Genting casino last night and some african guys drunk teling me how he's a big time football agent and has loadsa $$$ then says he's going to Matalan to buy a suit
[19:48] <mapps> lol
[19:48] <mapps> because that's where all the rich loaded people would buy a suit
[19:49] <SuperEngineer> mapps - but that *is* where they go... ask Mssrs Matalan if you don't believe me ;)
[19:49] <mapps> Mssrs?:)
[19:49] <mapps> and course it isnt
[19:50] <mapps> i have a suit that cost me 500 quid and im not a millionaire
[19:50] <mapps> this guy was trying to claim he was absolutely loded..football agent rtollng in cash
[19:50] <SuperEngineer> ...but £500 from now you will be,,,
[19:51] <SuperEngineer> [& if you're allowed "rtolling" - I'm allowed "Mssrs"
[19:59] <mapps> heh
[19:59] <SuperEngineer> mapps: meh
[20:00] <ali1234> you don't get rich by giving away money you know
[20:01] <mapps> agreed
[20:01] <ali1234> the thing about really expensive luxury items is rich people don't buy them, they get them for free
[20:01] <mapps> yea
[20:02] <SuperEngineer> ...& then they go to gaol
[20:05] <mapps> some of the temperatures these folks around the world get are crazy
[20:11] <penguin42> in which direction?
[20:11] <mapps> well
[20:11] <mapps> like 37c is real hot..too hot for me i think
[20:11] <mapps> but then -15 is like lol obviously crazy cold
[20:11] <penguin42> yeh
[20:11] <mapps> Oregon and Argentina there
[20:11] <mapps> i cant even imagine how cold -15 is
[20:11] <mapps> people here all moan when its like 1/2c
[20:11] <mapps> 'coldest day ever boo hoo'
[20:16] <penguin42> yeh, this penguin wouldn't like it that cold
[20:21] <SuperEngineer> why not ask those stuck in that research ship trapped in antartica
[20:23] <SuperEngineer> ..or those in USA currently in turmoil from exrtaordinarty arctic winds
[20:23] <SuperEngineer> ..me - I'm asking friend in Oz - makes life seem much better ;)