[00:00] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Did that for all three keys, and get gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[00:00] <Bashing-om> Renodef: A040830F7FAC5991 , 40976EAF437D05B5 , 40976EAF437D05B5 , my mistake, 2 keys vice 3, ???
[00:01] <Renodef> Bashing-om: 16126D3A3E5C1192
[00:02] <Renodef> Bashing-om: The fingerprint shows these three keys btw.. but update still says invalid keys (BADSIG)
[00:04] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Does not compute ! should be clean at this time. Let's reconfirm the "bad" keys, and go through that lat procedure again .. remove and (re-)add those 3 (3) keys.
[00:04] <Bashing-om> Renodef: " but update still says invalid keys (BADSIG)" same keys ?
[00:05] <Renodef> Bashing-om: So.. here's what I'm going to do... 1) sudo apt-get update 2) Note the keys listed as invalid -- for BADSIG or whatever 3) Remove those keys from trusted.gpg 4) Re-add the keys from the keyserver 5) Run update again.
[00:05] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Yeah, same 3 keys.
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Makes me wonder why the .gpg files are messing up .. maybe getting deep !
[00:09] <Mike9863> GNOME terminal keeps outputting stuff about a hardware error along with a beep sound. How can I disable this?
[00:10] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I notice that 40976EAF437D05B5's uid -- Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> is the same as the UID for another key in the fingerprint file - viz. 3B4F E6AC C0B2 1F32. You think this is confusing it? Even if it is, would it affect the other keys, and those packages?
[00:11] <demophobia> I just launched firefox by entering 'firefox' in the terminal, and now the terminal is waiting, presumably for firefox to quit. Is this not a good way to use the terminal? Or, is it standard practice to open multiple terminal windows for each program?
[00:12] <OerHeks> demophobia, "firefox & "would release the terminalprompt
[00:13] <olivierw> demophobia: Ctrl-z then bg will release but OerHeks is right
[00:13] <tonito> hola
[00:14] <demophobia> 'bg'?
[00:14] <OerHeks> Ctrlz z is a nice escape too  olivierw +1
[00:14] <olivierw> jobs will run in background --> bg
[00:14] <tonito> hi
[00:14] <demophobia> i think i just made firefox unresponsive 'cause i ctrl+z
[00:14] <olivierw> fg will recall in foreground
[00:14] <olivierw> type bg
[00:15] <demophobia> do i have to force quit now? i then 'firefox &' but notings' happening, except it printed what i guess is the uid number
[00:15] <demophobia> ah, i typed 'fg' and it became responsive again
[00:15] <academy> Does anyone know of a media player which allows two people to watch the same video and synchronise play/pause/ff/rw?  i.e. When one person pauses, the other does too.
[00:16] <tonito> i have a problem
[00:16] <olivierw> go on tonito
[00:17] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Not real sure if a conflict would exist if the signing keys all come from "ubuntu".. Let's say not.
[00:17] <thom_r> what are you having problems with tonito?
[00:17] <demophobia> 'firefox &' output '[2] 4142' but I don't know what that means and nothing seemed to happen :(
[00:18] <demophobia> ohh like you said
[00:18] <demophobia> i typed 'fg' and it came up
[00:18] <bekks> demophobia: second process in the job queue, having the process id 4142
[00:18] <demophobia> but now the terminal is unresponsive again
[00:18] <demophobia> thank you bekks
[00:18] <tonito> i have ubuntu 13.10 and began to stick
[00:18] <bekks> demophobia: press ctrl z again, and type bg instead of fg.
[00:18] <thom_r> tonito stick where? how?
[00:19] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Right.. I deleted all three, re-added 16126D3A3E5C1192, and even used that export command (gpg --export --armor 16126D3A3E5C1192 | sudo apt-key add - ), and then ran sudo apt-get update. I got NO_PUBKEY for the other two keys (makes sense), but still getting a BADSIG for this one!
[00:19] <tonito> stick around, the videos, the folders, all
[00:19] <Bashing-om> Renodef: If the situation still exist, I got another thought in mind !
[00:19] <thom_r> tonito, is it just being slow?
[00:19] <demophobia> cool, thank you bekks :D lol ... i wonder if i amuse or annoy, with how complete beginner i am
[00:20] <tonito> si
[00:20] <tonito> yes
[00:20] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Sure.. let's have it.
[00:20] <thom_r> ok, what kind of hardware do you have? How old is the computer?
[00:21] <Pikaa> I'm running 2011 hardware here ;P
[00:21] <olivierw> btw thx OerHeks
[00:22] <tonito> do not think it affects because I did have another partition to test if it was ubuntu, but this new ubuntu install does not stick and I played fluid
[00:24] <thom_r> tonito, so you have two different Ubuntu versions installed, one is slow and the other is not/
[00:24] <thom_r> ?
[00:24] <tonito> exactly
[00:25] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Let's clear the system's data base and rebuild. sudo -i , apt-get clean , cd /var/lib/apt , mv lists lists.old , mkdir -p lists/partial , apt-get clean , Do the remove (re-)add routine and now what results -> apt-get update , exit ??
[00:25] <thom_r> ok, then just use the one that isn't slow
[00:25] <thom_r> what version is working properly
[00:25] <tonito> iI install another ubuntu to test if it was the PC that was giving me the joke or you
[00:25] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Yeah... literally read that on your link this second. Doing it now.
[00:27] <tonito> ok but the thing is that I want to know if there is a way to take the slowness is because there have already downloaded and installed my programs
[00:27] <tonito> the version that is working properly is ubuntu studio 12.04 lts
[00:27] <tonito> and the another version is la 13.10
[00:27] <Liam-> I'm using Ubuntu 13.10, and after browsing for awhile, it'll just lock up (the whole desktop) after a few hours, or a day of running. It's just teh desktop too, I can still access the ctrl+alt+f# login and everything, and I'm not sure what to look for in the system logs, or which logs to look into
[00:28] <Liam-> It's also more then one desktop software, cinnamon, unity, kde
[00:28] <maxh76> Hello
[00:29] <maxh76> I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04.3 on a 32-bit system. And I'm getting kernel errors. Can anyone help?
[00:29] <thom_r> tonito, just run 12.04, that is the long term support release.
[00:29] <thom_r> maxh76, are you trying to install a 64 bit version?
[00:30] <maxh76> Nope, I'm install a 32-bit version.
[00:30] <maxh76> installing*
[00:30] <thom_r> are you installing from a dvd or usb?
[00:30] <maxh76> From a USB
[00:30] <tonito> ok but
[00:30] <tonito> ok but then I install all over again: (
[00:30] <thom_r> what program did you use to make the usb?
[00:31] <thom_r> tonito, you said you had 12.04 installed. Just use your 12.04 install and leave it as that
[00:31] <maxh76> I used UNetbootin, I have ubuntu 12.04.3 64 on this system.
[00:31] <tonito> hey I'm kinda new to this chat, when you leave the letters in red is because you're talking to me like I do to respond to another?
[00:32] <thom_r> hmm, have you tried re-making the live usb?
[00:32] <maxh76> I actually think it just got fixed.
[00:32] <maxh76> I shall try that next, thanks.
[00:32] <OerHeks> maxh76, 32 bit system, do you get a PAE warning?
[00:32] <thom_r> sometimes Unetbootin can screw things up, some people have terrible luck with it and some never have a problem
[00:33] <thom_r> tonito, yes. If the letters are in red then it means someone is talking to you
[00:33] <maxh76> I don't think I got a PAE warning.
[00:33] <maxh76> What other program could I use to make a bootable USB?
[00:34] <tonito> i used this tonito, you said you had 12.04 installed. Just use your 12.04 install and leave it as that
[00:34] <tonito> i used this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[00:35] <maxh76> I'm running ubuntu right now, that wouldn't work too well..
[00:35] <maxh76> Unless I used wine..
[00:35] <tonito> ok thom_r and how i do to answer you directly
[00:35] <thom_r> tonito, do you have 13.10 installed on your hard drive?
[00:35] <tonito> yes
[00:35] <tonito> i have two partitions
[00:36] <thom_r> ok, and you also have 12.04 installed on your hard drive. 12.04 is working fine, 13.10 is running very slowly. Why don't you just use 12.04 as it is working correctly. 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[00:36] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Dammit. The addition of the keys STILL says no ultimately trusted keys found!
[00:36] <tonito> but began to stick then update
[00:37] <tonito> ok ok i that'll do
[00:37] <tonito> xD
[00:37] <thom_r> ok
[00:37] <thom_r> no need to upgrade to 13.10
[00:38] <Bashing-om> Renodef: I am stuck, let me see what I can come up with. For now I am all out of idea ! I will be back.
[00:38] <Pikaa> No need to even upgrade to 14.04 when it is released.
[00:38] <maxh76> Does anyone know how to create a bootable USB drive on ubuntu without using UNetbootin?
[00:38] <tonito> but every time that out a new version
[00:38] <tonito> do not know why but I get the shrink and I have it
[00:39] <esde> I backed up my sources.list sources.list.d and my list of packages (dpkg --get-selections) from the old machine and copied them to the machine. Looking at the list of packages, there is kde-runtime and other kde packages, I am running ubuntu 12.04 on both machines, how can I tell which package depends on kde, and how can I safely get rid of all the kde packages?? I dont think I need or want them
[00:40] <tonito> -esde
[00:40] <tonito> how do I reply to someone here
[00:40] <tonito> ?
[00:42] <glitsj16> maxh76: use usb-creator-gtk, your 12.04 64bit ubuntu probably already has that
[00:42] <glitsj16> maxh76: if not you can simply install that from the repos
[00:42] <thom_r> tonito, just type their name
[00:43] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Argh. Thanks! So, I guess the current situation is: the key's being written, but not being trusted? I don't get how that works. If it's listed in the trusted.gpg file... (and it is, since the fingerprint shows it is listed) - what can be causing the BADSIG?
[00:44] <maxh76> glits16 I'm using "startup disk creator' comes with ubuntu. I just realized I'm creating ubuntu... Not making an install disk..
[00:45] <maxh76> Oh, usb-creator-gtk is the same thing as startup disk creator. Hmm.
[00:46] <Renodef> Bashing-om: 1) I've noticed that we've only been referring to keys by the last 16 characters. Should I run the commands with the whole length as shown in the fingerprint? 2) If you're on 12.04, would it be too much to ask you to remove/re-add the same key and check if your system remains unaffected? (To check if it's a specific problem with my installation, or if the Ubuntu keyserver is handing out BADSIG generating keys... unlikel
[00:47] <Iszak> Renodef why not create a login script that displays your key?
[00:48] <glitsj16> maxh76: creating ubuntu versus making an install disk .. i thought you wanted to install 12.04 32bit, misread the issue sorry
[00:49] <Renodef> Iszak: Don't know what you mean.. The issue I'm having is update-manager won't update its package list (Keeps saying package was last updated 6 days ago, and doesn't show new updates)
[00:50] <webhelp> hi, i wanne try wubi now to install the new lts instead of that 8.04 cd ... only thing is ubuntu is allready installed ... no windows ... can i somehow wubi it native from source ?
[00:50] <maxh76> It's okay. My issue is that I can't install ubuntu 12.04 32-bit on a 32-bit system from a USB. It installs, but after that it can't do much. It boots with a kernel bug and another issue..
[00:51] <maxh76> I think I'll just format one of my disks and use that, that seems to work much better.
[00:51] <webhelp> recompile kernel
[00:51] <bekks> webhelp: No. Wubi is for Windows.
[00:51] <webhelp> bekks what do i use netive then ?
[00:51] <bekks> webhelp: A virtual machine or a live cd.
[00:51] <webhelp> isomount jolliet says package files not found on iso in archivers and package mùanagers
[00:52] <webhelp> apt-cdrom add
[00:52] <webhelp> bekks it doesnt mount any iso or cd from fresh boot ... it only got 8.04 installed and i cant install or run newer somehow
[00:53] <webhelp> anybody some clues ?
[00:54] <donspaulding> If I'm using a PPA to get updates to a package, can I lock in a maximum version of the package that I want?
[00:54] <webhelp> wubo for ubuntu native ? wubi-native-x86 ? whers wubi sources ... but oh no thats right i dont got a sources.list for 8.04 so i cant install things anythings
[00:55] <webhelp> :/
[00:55] <donspaulding> i.e. I'm using redis-server from chris lea's PPA, and I just found a bug in 2.8.3, but the PPA has previous builds for 2.8.2.  How can I specify to not upgrade past 2.8.2 while still using the PPA?
[00:55] <bekks> webhelp: Forget about wubi unless you have a Windows.
[00:56] <webhelp> sudo apt-get install app-2.8.3 ?
[00:56] <bekks> !eolupgrades | webhelp
[00:56] <webhelp> so bekks whats the linux way of installing linux ?
[00:56] <webhelp> no cdrom no usb ...
[00:56] <bekks> webhelp: By using a recent installation medium or upgrading.
[00:57] <bekks> webhelp: So please read the links ubottu gave you.
[00:57] <webhelp> but recent kernel panics
[00:57] <webhelp> cant get past kernel panic
[00:58] <webhelp> upgrader almost always spits out errors
[00:58] <tonito> i do not understand that
[00:58] <webhelp> okey thats it for tonight thanks for all the webhelp :)
[00:59] <webhelp> tonito what dont u understand ?
[00:59] <tonito> this chat
[00:59] <webhelp> well i can install 8.04 but cant upgrade online or with installation media to newer
[00:59] <tonito> I'm not familiar
[01:00] <webhelp> i cant install newer cuz of kernel panics ... and so on ... im doomed
[01:00] <Bashing-om> HILIGHT Renodef
[01:00] <Ben64> webhelp: 8.04 is way out of date, you need to install 12.04 or 13.10 if you want support here
[01:00] <Ben64> tonito: this is the ubuntu support chat channel
[01:00] <webhelp> but thats just it .... how can i install it if i cant ?
[01:01] <Ben64> well then post the error you get
[01:01] <webhelp> Ben64 is north bridge
[01:01] <Ben64> that means nothing
[01:01] <tonito> ok but that is what I refer to irc as such is not well manage the program
[01:01] <glitsj16> donspaulding: downgrade to the 2.8.2 package and use "sudo apt-mark hold redis-server" to pin it .. some more context here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[01:01] <Renodef> Bashing-om: HILIGHT?
[01:01] <webhelp> indeed but only old builds it supports without the kernel panic
[01:02] <Ben64> tonito: what? if you don't have an ubuntu support question, you're probably in the wrong channel here
[01:02] <tonito> wait wait
[01:02] <webhelp> Ben64 my actuall question was what is the linux way of installing linux ? ... since i cant install wubi or run wubi from windows ... i cant ... how do i run wubi native ?
[01:02] <Ben64> webhelp: you'll need to provide full details if you want any hope of fixing the problem
[01:03] <webhelp> Ben64 sorry if i dont recall the exact kernel panic irq
[01:03] <Ben64> webhelp: wubi is for windows, and is not recommended for anything more than testing. boot a cd or usb and install it that way
[01:03] <tonito> I have a problem with ubuntu but you guys helped me fix so to speak, the comment I made the chat was just that, a comment
[01:03] <webhelp> cant bootcd or usb somehow ... thats a picky bootloader booting only 2K builds
[01:04] <webhelp> some cd it does ... if its old stuff ... reallly odd since the newer just dont boot
[01:04] <Ben64> if you have a cd drive, you can boot a cd
[01:04] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Well I am presently on 13.10, I do as a matter of fact quadrruple boot, and I do have 12.04.1 installed. I will, for you, reboot into 12.04 and see what results !
[01:05] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Aww.. I'm feeling holiday season internet love. :D Thanks! I'll wait.
[01:05] <Bashing-om> Renodef: "hiligh" my error - learning IRC -- irssi client !
[01:05] <webhelp> Ben64 so with the iso whats the chroot or extracting way to install newer ubuntu ?
[01:06] <webhelp> remastersys .... needs a repdatrsys
[01:06] <Ben64> webhelp: chroot or extracting? just boot the cd and hit "install" ...
[01:06] <webhelp> i cant it wont boot somehow
[01:06] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I'm new too. I've been  googled "Hilight irc freenode" lol.
[01:06] <Ben64> webhelp: it will boot
[01:06] <Renodef> #googling. Sheesh.
[01:06] <webhelp> it didnt okey thanks
[01:07] <Ben64> webhelp: how is anyone supposed to help you when you just say everything wont work?
[01:07] <webhelp> it didnt cuz that intel mobo is just braindead
[01:07] <Ben64> no
[01:07] <idueppe> I managed to debootstrap ubuntu 12.04 lts into a vmware image... but after rebooting the network connector doesn't exist. It should be the ntel Corporation 82545EM. Do I just need to install this adapter? And How?
[01:07] <Ben64> webhelp: burn the cd properly, boot it, post any errors here
[01:07] <webhelp> it was real ... if i ejected usb ontop hdd (sata2) then it said no system disk and the cd was in it
[01:08] <Ben64> ejected usb ontop hdd?
[01:08] <webhelp> if the ontop disk was in it booted 8.04
[01:08] <tonito> you kno
[01:08] <Ben64> what the hell are you doing? just BOOT THE CD
[01:08] <webhelp> yea like xbox360 ontophdd
[01:08] <Ben64> i have no idea what that is. simply boot the 12.04 cd
[01:08] <tonito> you know what is serve's name irc wine?
[01:09] <Ben64> you're making it much more complicated than necessary
[01:09] <Renodef> Ben64, webhelp - The communication gap here is HILARIOUS. :D
[01:09] <webhelp> it wont boot the 12.04 or any temporarily ... seems i mseeed up somehow
[01:09] <Ben64> Renodef: your commentary isn't welcome
[01:09] <glitsj16> tonito: #winehq i think
[01:09] <tonito> thanks!
[01:09] <Ben64> webhelp: post the error here then, don't just say "won't"
[01:09] <webhelp> i tried all evening allready
[01:10] <Ben64> webhelp: then leave if you refuse to provide any details
[01:10] <webhelp> what i need is a way inside linux to update without any manager
[01:10] <Pikaa> Linux is very good for developing neurons.
[01:10] <webhelp> and i say without any manager cuz they all error on me inside 8.04
[01:10] <Renodef> Ben64 , webhelp : No offence intended!
[01:11] <MarGul> how can I get my Google Chrome icon in the Panel at xubuntu? I have tried so many different ways but just cant figure it out :/
[01:11] <webhelp> even with installation media iso and so on
[01:11] <Ben64> webhelp: stop talking about 8.04. do this or be ignored. 1. download 12.04 cd.  2. burn 12.04 cd. 3. boot 12.04 cd. 4. install 12.04 cd
[01:11] <webhelp> do u got a newest stage2 tarball ?
[01:11] <bekks> webhelp: then use a 10.04 livecd, which doesnt have PAE kernel yet.
[01:11] <webhelp> whats PAE ?
[01:12] <Ben64> bekks: 10.04 is not supported, don't recommend that
[01:12] <bekks> Ben64: I guess his computer isnt capable of PAE, which is the default on 12.04
[01:12] <bekks> Ben64: So his only chance is to update from 10.04 to 12.04-non-PAE.
[01:12] <webhelp> whers that ?
[01:13] <tonito> glistsj16 the servers's name is winehq ;)
[01:13] <Ben64> or download the 12.04 non-pae ? http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/
[01:13] <bekks> Ben64: Or that, yes.
[01:13] <Ben64> don't make him have to EOL upgrade if not necessary
[01:13] <Ben64> don't even know if pae is the problem, he's provided no details at all
[01:14] <glitsj16> tonito: thanks for confirming :)
[01:15] <tonito> youre welcome
[01:16] <webhelp> Ben64 u want my detail ? youre welcome ... but i thought of chroot upgrade allready
[01:17] <webhelp> or maybe install server ... are there any script to instalml ubuntu-some inside ubuntu-other ?
[01:17] <webhelp> and not virtual
[01:18] <Ben64> webhelp: no, stop asking
[01:20] <tonito> what another server's name you know
[01:21] <Rickardo1> How do I create ssh access to www-data ... I want to preserve the permission while running rsync
[01:23] <Iszak> Rickardo1 why would you want to do that?
[01:23] <Iszak> Rickardo1 rsync has an "a" mode also known as archive which should preserve the permissions.
[01:23] <Rickardo1> Iszak: So I don't have to change permissions after sync with another user.
[01:23] <idueppe> After booting my debootstraped ubuntu in vmware I have no ethernet adapter? What did I forgot?
[01:24] <Iszak> Rickardo1 if you're root and you're moving files, they should have the same permission, perhaps different ownership/group
[01:26] <Rickardo1> Iszak: I meant ownership... when using rsync the owner is replaced by my ssh user..
[01:26] <Iszak> Rickardo1 this is correct, this is how it behaves, you can easily change it though.
[01:27] <Iszak> I would imagine though it may be difficult to keep the same owner/group, perhaps possible. What if user "www-data" did not exist?
[01:27] <Rickardo1> is it a bad idea to use the www-data account as ssh user.
[01:27] <TJ-> idueppe: forgot? defining an interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:28] <Iszak> Rickardo1 I personally think so yes, I use a different user for each website I host for security reasons
[01:28] <qin> Rickardo1: add ssh user to www-data groups and make link in his home to www-data
[01:28] <Iszak> the idea of a system user having ssh access, cringe.
[01:28] <alexkrupp> My 12.04 isn't booting anymore after power cycling my computer... It now gives me the choice of whether I want to boot as normal, in recovery mode, etc... And then when I select to boot the OS as normal, it just hangs on a blank purple screen... Any ideas?
[01:28] <idueppe> TJ, no i configured it
[01:29] <qin> Rickardo1: and you would make sure that ssh user do not have any sudo rights
[01:30] <Rickardo1> qin: yes
[01:30] <qin> Rickardo1: "yes" what?
[01:30] <idueppe> while booting I receive piix4_smbus ...: Host SMBus controller not enabled
[01:30] <Rickardo1> qin: sorry, wrong chat.
[01:30] <qin> np
[01:31] <idueppe> I can blacklist i2c_piix4 but I guess there is something missing
[01:31] <idueppe> also I have to what 120 seconds for the network configruation... ??
[01:32] <glitsj16> alexkrupp: i'd try to drop into recovery mode and do a fsck first to make sure the filesystem is clean
[01:33] <alexkrupp> glitsj16: K I'll do that... What would I do in recovery mode?
[01:34] <Bashing-om> Renodef: OK, My test per your request is a success, deleted and (re-)added key. Interesting enough I also get the "not ultimatrly trusted". Ok got another thought. Lets say your mirror has bad data. Change your Mirror site.
[01:34] <TJ-> idueppe: what network chipset does the vmware guest see? "lspci -nn | grep net|wire"
[01:34] <glitsj16> alexkrupp: just choose the option fsck in the menu offered and after that try to boot as normal
[01:34] <tonito> bye guys
[01:34] <alexkrupp> glitsj16: OK, thanks
[01:34] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Aah. Interesting. I did change the mirror yesterday
[01:35] <tonito> thanks a lot
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Well, then It is back to uncle Google, I do have some other links in this respect in my tool box.
[01:36] <Renodef> Bashing-om: After having noted 5 days of no updates... I checked out a server I know to be in the same city, the closest server (letting it find the one it thought was closest -- which interestingly was not the same as the first), the main server and the UK server.
[01:37] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Ha.. google it is then. Shoot away with the URLs
[01:38] <Sin> was good
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Stranger alla the time ! .. While I look, here is one for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869890 .
[01:38] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I'll bookmark them and check up later... Been on the verge of buying a new computer for a while now. This issue only adds weight to that.
[01:40] <idueppe> TJ-: It says "Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) [8086:100f] (rev 01)"
[01:44] <JonnehxD> Hello everyone.. I've got a question about shell scripts and navigating directories.. anyone available to help? :)
[01:45] <daftykins> just ask.
[01:45] <TJ-> Renodef: What does this show? "ls -l /var/lib/apt/keyrings/"
[01:46] <alex_fun> heya
[01:46] <alex_fun> :D
[01:46] <alex_fun> how i can see real memory usage?
[01:46] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Wow, This little thing ! Ain't no step bit a step for a stepper, And Hey, newer may not be better. Maybe better the evil you already know.   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html<- Have not seen the results of that 2nd sequence of commands, can not say.
[01:46] <TJ-> idueppe: Does "ifconfig -a" show an eth0? How about "egrep eth[[:digit:]] /var/log/dmesg"  ?
[01:49] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Well that's a non-starter. I don't have aptitude installed.
[01:49] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Terminal output-> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[01:51] <Renodef> Bashing-om: and... sudo apt-get aptitude results in -> Package aptitude is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate
[01:52] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Here is one that looks real promising !http://opensourceforgeeks.blogspot.in/2013/04/w-gpg-error-httpppalaunchpadnet-precise.html .// Yeah aptitude is no longer installed by default.; No biggy try, move to this reference site this post.
[01:53] <myndzi> i'm not entirely sure where to ask this, maybe someone can guide me
[01:53] <myndzi> i have some ubuntu servers that i set up with authorized_keys2 entries so that i can connect with rsa keys
[01:54] <myndzi> one of them just started prompting me for a password
[01:54] <myndzi> i checked and the public keys are still in .ssh/authorized_keys2
[01:54] <myndzi> it just doesn't seem to be trying to use them
[01:54] <myndzi> why might this be?
[01:54] <SPFINC> Hi
[01:55] <thom_r> SPFINC hi
[01:55] <TJ-> myndzi: On your local PC (the SSH client) have you recently added more private keys?
[01:55] <myndzi> no
[01:55] <myndzi> local is windows, using putty and pageant
[01:55] <myndzi> it hasn't restarted and it can connect to other ubuntu servers with the exact same file in place
[01:56] <myndzi> (i put it in a git repo for easy deployment :P)
[01:56] <myndzi> i'm not sure how to determine what's going on
[01:56] <myndzi> i even have a stale putty session that's connected via the public key method
[01:56] <TJ-> myndzi: The password-instead-of-certificate issue can occur when the client sends too many certificates for authentication and the server reaches a limit and switches to Password authentication
[01:57] <myndzi> the only thing i can think of that may have changed is that i had to remotely access this system from my laptop the other day, but it was via a different account (one with a long password)
[01:57] <myndzi> is there a way to kick it back into certificate mode?
[01:57] <myndzi> the account doesn't even have a password (it's locked)
[01:59] <TJ-> myndzi: On a linux client you can do "ssh -vvvv ..." to get a huge amount of debug output, which will help identify the cause. You can also look at the server's /var/log/auth.log for clues, but you'd probably have to increase the debug level of the sshd and restart it
[01:59] <myndzi> oh crap
[01:59] <myndzi> i think i worked it out
[01:59] <myndzi> (i just got at auth.log)
[01:59] <myndzi> i had a permission problem and for some reason thought it was a good idea to chmod -R my home dir D:
[01:59] <myndzi> bad ownership or modes for file /home/search/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[02:00] <TJ-> myndzi: *applause* :D
[02:00] <myndzi> it was because i was editing the files remotely but needed the other user (with the password) to be able to update them
[02:00] <myndzi> hmm, i wonder how i should do this
[02:01] <myndzi> ah it was probably g+w
[02:01] <idueppe> TJ-: sorry, I cannot cut&paste the output. But you can see snapshots of it here https://www.dropbox.com/sc/e1ifi9djitiurp8/rjmq6Zfjq5#/
[02:01] <myndzi> i can see why that would be a problem
[02:02] <myndzi> fixed! :D thanks for your help, it actually gave me the search terms that got me here :)
[02:03] <myndzi> are there any other items like this that might be lurking, you think?
[02:03] <TJ-> idueppe: I suspect you have either a routing issue ("ip route ls"), or firewall ("sudo iptables -nvL")
[02:03] <myndzi> i think i'll just g-w everything to be safe
[02:03] <TJ-> myndzi: You can never tell once a user has been allowed to play :)
[02:04] <myndzi> :(
[02:04] <TJ-> idueppe: otherwise, it's the VMware hypervisor configuration
[02:07] <Renodef> Bashing-om: The open-source for geeks blog post stuff is pretty much the same approach. I did change the gpg.conf in gedit (which shouldn't have made a difference given we were giving it the URL he sets in the conf. file; when we sent terminal commands)... and it didn't make any difference later.
[02:08] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I guess I'll have to hunt for the key files on the keyserver manually..
[02:08] <TJ-> Renodef: What does this show? "ls -l /var/lib/apt/keyrings/"
[02:09] <Speiros> Hello people.
[02:09] <Speiros> I have a problem
[02:09] <Renodef> TJ- : -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6713 Feb 14  2013 ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[02:10] <idueppe> TJ-: I'm using VMware Fusion for testing, so no hypervisor configuration. If I boot from the ubuntu cd it is fine but after debootstraping and reboot there is no ethernet.  You can see the iptables output here https://www.dropbox.com/sc/j7cn0arwtgtwp77/591so279Gh. And what I did with debootstraping here https://gist.github.com/idueppe/8173364
[02:10] <Speiros> I am trying to use 12.04.3 LTS on a removable hard disk so that I can try it, and I currently have 10.4, but there seems to be so many things I can't use with my own system.  So I want to try out this LTS version.  I don't want to remove nor replace this old one yet, as I have done this twice now with a big failure rate, so much that I punched my laptop in after going over the same madness over and over again too many times.  Can
[02:10] <Speiros> someone please help me.
[02:11] <Speiros> The 10.4 is on my main hard drive, whilst the 12.04 is on the removable one.
[02:11] <TJ-> Renodef: Is the "md5sum" of that file "2da9538bbb4eaec69e47de5b105217a8" ?
[02:11] <idueppe> TJ-: sorry wrong link https://www.dropbox.com/sc/j7cn0arwtgtwp77/591so279Gh
[02:12] <Speiros> Oh, the twice was using the laptop at the end of last year.  Not on this computer.
[02:14] <Bashing-om> Renodef: That last link pretty well covers all the bases. I will be here in the event of need - popping in and out.
[02:14] <Renodef> TJ- yeah.. hash matches.
[02:15] <Renodef> Bashing-om : Sure, thanks! TJ- might have something.. otherwise, it's on to manual mode.
[02:16] <Ben64> Speiros: ok so what is the actual problem you are encountering
[02:17] <TJ-> Renodef: I only recently started paying attention to your issue; have you previously pastebinned the output of "apt-get update" or other commands that are reporting the problems?
[02:17] <Speiros> Thanks Ben64.  I don't seem to be able to open the hard drive, although I placed the ISO image on it (707MB), and I don't know why.  I'm pressing f9 to get into boot mode, but it won't open, just opens as a black screen after going through the prompts of the boot drive.
[02:18] <Renodef> TJ- : yeah..hang on.. in a moment of wisdom, I bookmarked them
[02:19] <Ben64> Speiros: uh, placing an iso on an external hard drive does not mean it is installed or bootable even
[02:19] <Speiros> Ben64, do I open it onto the hard drive, and then try again?
[02:19] <Renodef> TJ- : In order 1) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665195/ 2) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665296/ 3) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665421/ 4) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665513/ 5) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665592/
[02:19] <Ben64> Speiros: do you want to install it to the external?
[02:19] <Speiros> Ben64 Yes.
[02:20] <Speiros> The hard drive is empty apart from a lost/found file
[02:20] <Ben64> Speiros: then either burn the iso to a cd or dvd, or write it to a usb drive and boot it that way
[02:20] <Ben64> Speiros: then you can choose where to install it
[02:21] <Speiros> Ben64 I tried burning it to DVD (I have no CD's, and it is a DVD drive), but the DVD had some error too.  I have too many errors with the 10.4 that not many "normal" options are working.
[02:21] <Speiros> Ben64 I couldn't burn to DVD.
[02:21] <Ben64> why not?
[02:21] <Speiros> Ben64 give me a minute, and I'll burn another one, and tell you what the error is.
[02:23] <Renodef> Bashing-om, TJ- : by the way, is ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg supposed to have characters that gedit encoding doesn't display? I opened it, but got that "The file opened contains invalid characters, and if you continue to edit it, it may corrupt the file". Now what I'm thinking is.. if these characters can't be sent over the web, for whatever hashing algorithm that checks the signature of the keys... and if they're screwed up somehow
[02:23] <Speiros> Ben64 Okay, the first prompt is a choice of burning as file, or burning as contents.  I've tried both previously, but which one should it be?  Probably contents, yes?
[02:23] <Ben64> um... neither
[02:23] <Ben64> you burn it as an image, since it is an image
[02:23] <TJ-> Renodef: Have you moved the "/var/lib/apt/lists/" directory (to "lists.old") and replaced it with an empty directory, and then retried the "apt-get update" ?
[02:24] <TJ-> Renodef: Yes, it's a binary file containing the certificates
[02:24] <Speiros> Ben64 There are no other options for me except this box, which gives me these two options.
[02:24] <carandraug> hi! I remember there was something the bot could say that would basically tell the OP that he should explain what the problem really is, rather than ask for help for a very small but complicated thing that usually means he's trying to solve the original problem the wrong way
[02:24] <Speiros> Ben64 Sorry, I just closed it, and wrote to it..
[02:24] <Bashing-om> Renodef:  Correct, no can edit a .gpg file .. Validation process !
[02:25] <Speiros> Ben64 It automatically ejected, and I've logged the error.
[02:25] <Ben64> Speiros: not sure what box you are referring to, but you need to write the image as an image. use a program that can do that
[02:25] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Ah.. cool.
[02:25] <whatisthematrix> carandraug: you mean !ask ?
[02:25] <Speiros> Ben64 I thought that was Brasero
[02:26] <Lunar_Lander> hi, can I, in theory, go offline after doing sudo do-release-upgrade, after he finished downloading?
[02:26] <whatisthematrix> Lunar_Lander: yes, i would think so
[02:26] <Ben64> Speiros: i
[02:26] <Ben64> 've never used brasero, but i'm sure it can burn images
[02:26] <Lunar_Lander> thanks whatisthematrix
[02:27] <Renodef> TJ- : Yeah that method's been experimented with... hasn't solved the issue. (Btw, why can't Gedit display a binary file as a string of 1s and 0s?)
[02:27] <whatisthematrix> Lunar_Lander: yw
[02:27] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Second thought .. what file are you looking at .. a sig file is openable and readable in a test editor ! Give me the path and file and I will test here on my system.
[02:27] <carandraug> !ask
[02:27] <Speiros> Ben64 Yes.  Also, it says it stopped because of an error, but the error is called "no message" and error =0
[02:27] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, so you've cleaned out the downloaded list files, you've rewritten the GPG keyring entries
[02:27] <Bashing-om> Renodef: test = *text
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> night!
[02:28] <carandraug> whatisthematrix, no. Kinda like when someone asks how to create variables named a1, a2, a3, a4, etc with eval when the right answer is "don't do this! You should be using an array/list/etc"
[02:28] <whatisthematrix> carandraug: ahh, sorry, i don't know then
[02:28] <TJ-> Renodef: Are you, by any chance, accessing the archives through a proxy, even a transparent proxy, that could be corrupting the incoming files?
[02:28] <Renodef> Bashing-om: File - /var/lib/apt/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg (and text editor was gedit)
[02:28] <Ben64> Speiros: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-burn-an-iso-to-a-cd-or-dvd-in-ubuntu#.UsIr0PixZv8
[02:28] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks, I'll have a look, and see how I go.
[02:29] <Renodef> TJ- : not AFAIK. But if it IS a transparent proxy... how would I know?
[02:31] <Bashing-om> Renodef: confirmed, that file no mess with .. editor gives same same warnings from my test as yours, and "strange" chearacters.
[02:31] <TJ-> Renodef: proxy headers in the HTTP stream
[02:31] <Renodef> TJ- : in any case, the hash matched... so it isn't corrupt.. which means the network's not messing it up. (If this file you told me to checksum isn't a local file, and is something that's written to at each update)
[02:31] <Sin> bbbb bonfire
[02:31] <Renodef> TJ- ah.. but where do I check for that? Wireshark?
[02:32] <TJ-> Renodef: No, that file is static and comes from the package "ubuntu-keyring"
[02:32] <TJ-> Renodef: You could use tcpdump or Wireshark
[02:33] <Speiros> Ben64 "Starting to record", and then "Ejecting medium", and it gives me the same message as before. "Error while burning", "unknown error"
[02:34] <Speiros> Ben64 This is why I was trying to use the external drive.
[02:35] <Ben64> well you can't install ubuntu from the external drive onto itself
[02:35] <Renodef> TJ- ok.. I just did a capture now.. and this IRC was the only traffic.. so click on a packet and check where exactly?
[02:35] <Speiros> Ben64 I formatted it, then partitioned it to Ext4 format, and (there were problems here too) when I finally got it right, put the ISO onto it.
[02:36] <Speiros> Ben64 So how do I do it?  I've had it on the hard drive, and tried to copy it onto it.
[02:36] <Ben64> if your computer can boot from usb, you can put the iso onto a flash drive and boot from that
[02:37] <Speiros> Ben64 My external hard drive is on USB.  Is that different?
[02:37] <Ben64> but you won't be able to install to the external drive if you boot the iso from it...
[02:37] <mobi323> Hello All. I'm a total newbie.
[02:38] <Speiros> Ben64 That's fair enough, but I have a copy of the iso on both the normal hard drive and the external one.  I don't know what step to take to make the program useable.
[02:38] <Bashing-om> mobi323: Hey, so were we all at one time !
[02:38] <Speiros> Ben64 I don't know where to open the files that are contained in the iso
[02:39] <Ben64> you never open the iso
[02:39] <Ben64> it is an image, and needs to be written as one
[02:39] <mobi323> Thank you Bashing.
[02:39] <Speiros> Ben64 See where my frustration is?  I can't use the computer to open it, and I can't write to the hard drive.
[02:40] <Ben64> i don't think you know what you want to do
[02:40] <Speiros> Ben64 and I can't write to the DVD either.
[02:40] <Bashing-om> mobi323: You here for a reason or kicking back and in a learning mode ?
[02:40] <TJ-> Renodef: You'd capture traffic whilst doing an "apt-get update" *after* emptying "/var/lib/apt/lists/" so that apt is forced to fetch the files once more, and then you'd filter on HTTP traffic to the archive host and look at the response headers received.
[02:40] <Speiros> Ben64 I know what I want.  I want to be able to use the 12.04.3 LTS on the external hard drive.
[02:40] <Ben64> what exactly do you mean by that
[02:41] <Speiros> Ben64 Then if it doesn't mess up my files, then I will remove all the stuff off my main drive, and install it there, and use my files.
[02:41] <Speiros> Ben64 The external harddrive I want as a stand-alone version of linux
[02:41] <Ben64> can your computer even boot from usb?
[02:41] <Speiros> Ben64 It is saved as a bootable hard drive
[02:42] <Speiros> Ben64 Apparently so.  I've done this before.
[02:42] <mobi323> Bashing. I'm just looking to see what goes on. I have replaced my computer and I am running totally on Ubuntu. So I may need help at times.
[02:42] <Ben64> do you just want the livecd booting from the external?
[02:42] <Speiros> Ben64 but that was an upgrade from the 08 or 09 to the 10.4
[02:43] <Speiros> Ben64 that would be helpful, yes.
[02:43] <Ben64> then use something like unetbootin to write the image to the external drive
[02:43] <Speiros> Ben64 Is that a program or a command in Terminal?
[02:44] <ObrienDave> unetbootin is a program
[02:44] <Speiros> Thanks ObrienDave
[02:44] <Ben64> looks like it exists in 10.04 too
[02:45] <Bashing-om> mobi323: Ubuntu, plenty of help is available in many many places and forms. Outstanding support. But this conversation best in #ubuntu-ot. This channel is dedicated to support.
[02:45] <Speiros> Ben64 I'll have a look at the program.  Thanks for your patience.  You might be seeing a fraction of the hell that I've gone through for the last year or so now...at least for the times when I attempted to deal with this issue.
[02:46] <Renodef> TJ- ok I'm in /var/lib/apt
[02:46] <Renodef> TJ- should I remove the whole lists directory? lists.old too?
[02:47] <Speiros> Ben64 "Package operation Failed"
[02:47] <TJ-> Renodef: Before you do that ... do this
[02:47] <TJ-> Renodef: "for r in /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release; do if ! gpgv --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg $r.gpg $r; then echo "error: $? Problem with $r"; fi; done"
[02:48] <Ben64> Speiros: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/unetbootin
[02:48] <TJ-> Renodef: That will check the gpg signatures of the Release files.... any errors it's say "error: X Problem with ...."
[02:48] <Speiros> Ben64 "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'Owner'@'localhost' (using password: YES)"
[02:48] <jcrza> Do you guys know if the newest macbook air's hardware will work with ubuntu?
[02:48] <Ben64> Speiros: i have no idea what you're doing
[02:49] <Bashing-om> TJ: That's pretty slick !
[02:49] <Speiros> Ben64 I just went to Ubuntu Software Centre and clicked "install".  The irony is that it says it's installed, although I know it isn't.
[02:50] <Ben64> try running it then
[02:50] <thom_r> speiros, try using the terminal
[02:50] <thom_r> if you know the program is not installed, install it from the terminal
[02:50] <Renodef> TJ- , Bashing-om : Alright... another paste-bin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666332/
[02:50] <Speiros> Ben64 It won't open.  This problem's an extension of the other one.
[02:51] <Speiros> thom_r What command would I use to install it?
[02:51] <Ben64> define "won't open"
[02:51] <thom_r> sudo apt-get install (name of program)
[02:51] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, now we're making progress! Show us "ls -al /var/lib/apt/lists/"
[02:51] <TJ-> Renodef: And for good measure, do "df" and check that the device hosting /var/ has more than 5% free space!
[02:52] <thom_r> Speiros, for example to install Cmatrix it would be sudo apt-get install cmatrix
[02:53] <Speiros> Ben64 Sorry, it did open.  I will give it a go and see if it works.  I downloaded another program, and when it came to using it it gave me the same errors.  Still, I'll try it, as I hope I'm wrong.
[02:53] <Renodef> TJ- haha.. as you say: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666336/
[02:53] <feneco> any way to make unity dash faster to run?
[02:54] <Speiros> thom_r Thanks for that.  If this doesn't work, I'll try that.
[02:54] <feneco> here is so slow, like 5 FPS, im running i3/4gb ram/hd3000
[02:55] <TJ-> Renodef: does "df" show there's plenty of space?
[02:55] <TJ-> Renodef: We're seeing that the gpg files aren't being fetched for some reason
[02:56] <Renodef> TJ- yeah.. None of my drives/partitions are 95% used.. Although.. how much space are you looking for? This laptop's pretty old.. so 5% as a rule of thumb may not be enough...especially with the partition.
[02:57] <Speiros> Ben64 So far so good, yet it only showed the 10.4 version, but I'll give it a go anyway, as I might be able to fix the other errors with a "disk"
[02:57] <Speiros> Ben64 thom_r Thanks guys.  I'll be back on in a few minutes after a reboot to see if it worked or not.
[02:58] <Bashing-om> Renodef:  TJ: Something stinks big time, I ran the code and all my keys; "gpgv: Good signature" none of that "could not open file" nonsense.
[02:59] <TJ-> Renodef: 'root' user can use 100% of a file-system but no-root users get stopped when the drive hits 95% full... in order for the admin to be able to log-in as 'root' and fix it.
[02:59] <sjd_zeus> feneco, mabe u can closed dash online search
[03:00] <TJ-> Renodef: So I think you're OK on space... so we can focus on why apt-get is fetching the .gpg files but they're not getting written to /var/lib/apt/lists/
[03:00] <Renodef> TJ- Aaj.. cool. #TIL
[03:00] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om : So delete the entirety of lists and lists.old?
[03:01] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial"
[03:02] <TJ-> Renodef: Then "sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | tee /tmp/update.log && pastebinit /tmp/update.log"
[03:03] <airtonix> why does npm install -g something require sudo?!?!
[03:04] <Speiros> Ben64 No mate.  It didn't work.
[03:04] <Renodef> TJ- wait.. pastebinit is a command? lol
[03:04] <TJ-> Renodef: It is if you've got it installed! Otherwise, you'll have to drop that bit and do it manually
[03:05] <Speiros> Ben64 I think the key to my problems might be the comment on terminal, which is ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'Owner'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[03:05] <Speiros> I think this is ALL my problems combined.
[03:09] <mariozx> Hello every body!
[03:09] <Renodef> TJ- Done: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666377/
[03:09] <mariozx> I'm have a question at here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/397965/can-ubuntu-13-10-be-installed-on-toshiba-c840-wifi-realtek-rtl8723ae
[03:09] <mobi323> How do I stop all the "joined" and "left" messages?
[03:09] <Speiros> Yes, this is my problem, but I don't know how to fix.  I have two passwords, one for ring, and one for sudo.  Is this normal?  I know them both.
[03:09] <mariozx> please help me! Thank you!
[03:10] <Ben64> Speiros: how did it "not work"
[03:10] <Speiros> Ben64 It didn't boot from the external drive.
[03:10] <Speiros> Ben64 it defaulted back to the hard drive
[03:10] <Ben64> did you tell it to boot from the external?
[03:11] <Ben64> you have to set boot order in bios
[03:11] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om - The interesting bit is.. now one of the keys which was throwing up an error earlier (16126D3A3E5C1192) isn't doing so anymore.
[03:11] <Speiros> Ben64 it started off, but then a series of 000's (heaps of them) very quickly scrolled up the screen, then it reverted to the hard drive
[03:11] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, so it fetches the gpg keys... but later can't find them in "/var/lib/apt/lists/" ... which suggests it has a problem either writing to that directory, or is trying and failing to use a temporary location
[03:11] <TJ-> Renodef: Show us "ls -al /var/lib/apt/lists/" now
[03:12] <Speiros> Ben64 When I pressed f9, it gave me the option of which drive to open.  I chose the USB drive.  I also tried the "diskette", which I believe is my phone I tether off, just in case.
[03:12] <Ben64> Speiros: perhaps you didn't use unetbootin correctly, did you choose the 12.04 iso?
[03:12] <TJ-> Renodef: After this, I think we'll run apt-get under 'strace' and see what file operations it is doing
[03:13] <Bashing-om> Renodef: TJ : I have been scratching my head on this one, TJ I am in a learning mode ! .. Agree the key errors have changed from what was initially.
[03:13] <Speiros> Ben64 No, it only went from 6 through to the 10 series.
[03:13] <Ben64> thats why i said "choose" ...
[03:13] <Ben64> you need to use the 12.04 iso
[03:14] <Speiros> Ben64 I can't select an option that isn't available to me.  It goes from the 6 series only through the 10 series, in way of a drop-down list.
[03:14] <Ben64> CHOOSE the iso
[03:15] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om : Pastebin Number <drumroll> NINE </drumroll> : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666390/
[03:15] <TJ-> Renodef: Bashing-om I think we're now close to fixing it... looking at the apt-get errors its now a problem with a 'dead' key-server in the key-server list, so we'll track that down... and that should be it
[03:16] <mariozx> I'm have a question at here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/397965/can-ubuntu-13-10-be-installed-on-toshiba-c840-wifi-realtek-rtl8723ae
[03:16] <mariozx> please help me!, Thank you!
[03:16] <Speiros> Ben64 It is like I have a version and the computer doesn't want me to change any settings on it.  I believe it is a command above sudo.  Is there such a command?
[03:17] <TJ-> Renodef: Do you have pastebinit installed?
[03:17] <Ben64> Speiros: i have no idea what you are referring to. unetbootin does let you choose your own iso, any iso. pick the 12.04 iso
[03:18] <acovrig> I am trying to get an openvpn instance working, I can ping the server *.1 from my client, but can't ping my client *.5 from the server, any ideas why?
[03:18] <Renodef> TJ- : nope.. Won't sudo apt-get install pastebinit prompt a "this package could not be authenticated... you still want to continue?" message?
[03:18] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, do this: "wget http://http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pastebinit/pastebinit_1.3-2ubuntu2.1_all.deb"
[03:18] <TJ-> Renodef: Then do "sudo dpkg -i pastebinit_1.3-2ubuntu2.1_all.deb"
[03:18] <Speiros> Ben64 I just downloaded unetbootin, and the only options it offers me are between 6.06 and 10.04 Live
[03:18] <Ben64> Speiros: it does give you an option to provide your own iso.
[03:18] <TJ-> Renodef: Then test it with "echo "Boo!" | pastebinit
[03:19] <TJ-> Renodef: Then test it with "  echo "Boo!" | pastebinit "
[03:19] <Speiros> Ben64 Okay.  So I select Custom then?
[03:19] <TJ-> Renodef: You'll need to correct my typo in the wget URL ... too many "http://"
[03:20] <Ben64> Speiros: i cannot see your screen, you'll have to figure it out. unetbootin is not very complicated
[03:20] <gdi2k> hi, I need to copy an app's config directory to all user's home directories on a server. I thought I could use cp -r mydir /home/*/.config/ but it doesn't work, but also exits without error. Where am I going wrong?
[03:21] <Renodef> TJ- yeah.. installing. It posts automatically to paste.ubuntu.com, and echoes a URL for me to share?
[03:21] <TJ-> Renodef: Yes
[03:21] <TJ-> Renodef: Will speed up our strace capture
[03:21] <Renodef> TJ- oh wait..error during installation.
[03:21] <TJ-> Renodef: oh drat! Dependency?
[03:21] <Renodef> TJ- dependecy
[03:21] <Renodef> yeah
[03:21] <TJ-> Renodef: which?
[03:22] <Ben64> gdi2k: you can't copy to multiple destinations like that
[03:22] <Renodef> TJ- : python-configobj
[03:22] <mobi323_> ping
[03:22] <Speiros> Ben64 You seem to think I'm an idiot.  I told you already mate that I don't have that option.  The "options" down the bottom aren't about the distro which I can install.  All I have for those options are the options of choosing which distro I'd like.  I have looked at Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and every other one, and the only options that are there as far as distros for Ubuntu go are between 6.06 and 10.04.  Thanks for your help
[03:22] <Speiros> anyway mate.  You are right, you can't see my screen.  But that doesn't make me an idiot, nor does it make me miraculously invent things that are OTHER than what I'm typing.
[03:22] <Renodef> TJ- I've python installed.
[03:22] <Ben64> Speiros: i'm telling you, there is an option to choose your own iso
[03:23] <gdi2k> Ben64, ok, will look into a script. I deleted multiple of them like that with rm so I figured I could copy multiple of them like that too...
[03:23] <TJ-> Renodef: "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/configobj/python-configobj_4.7.2+ds-3build1_all.deb"
[03:23] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo dpkg -i python-configobj_4.7.2+ds-3build1_all.deb"
[03:24] <Speiros> Ben64 I do genuinely appreciate your help.  Still, my only options are these ones.  Distro up top (no options other than the drop-down lists), Diskimage, Custom (gives Kernel, Initrd and Options), Show all Drives (gives Type, Drive).  That is all the options I have.
[03:24] <Dreamer3> how can i tell mysql not to start at boot?
[03:24] <Ben64> Speiros: disk image!
[03:24] <TJ-> Dreamer3: See "man update-rc.d"
[03:24] <Speiros> Ben64 Aaaahh, okay...
[03:25] <Speiros> Ben64 And from this I highlight the one on my drive?
[03:25] <Renodef> TJ- : haha.. beat me to the URL. OK.. pastebinit is installed now.
[03:25] <Ben64> Speiros: the 12.04 iso, yes
[03:25] <TJ-> Dreamer3: Or, if mysqld uses an Upstart job, you'll need to rename it "ls -l /etc/init/mysql*" to stop it running at boot time
[03:25] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, lets go for an strace then.
[03:25] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks.  I see where you're coming from.  Thanks for your patience.
[03:25] <Speiros> Ben64 Okay, I'll give it a go.
[03:26] <Dreamer3> TJ-: yep this is upstart
[03:26] <Dreamer3> TJ-: can i put it in /etc/init/disabled/ or is that upstart scanning recursive?
[03:26] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo strace -o /tmp/apt-get.strace.log -f -e trace=file apt-get update && pastebinit /tmp/apt-get.strace.log"
[03:27] <TJ-> Dreamer3: You could move it, yes
[03:27] <Dreamer3> ok :)
[03:27] <TJ-> Dreamer3: I forget whether 'init' will recurse directories, but I'm guessing not else someone would have been using that option
[03:27] <Dreamer3> lets give that a shot
[03:28] <Dreamer3> TJ-: the man page for upstart explicitly says init/*.conf not **
[03:28] <Dreamer3> if you can count on that
[03:28] <TJ-> Dreamer3: Yeah, I know they have to be ".conf" which is why I recommended a rename, but your plan is more elegant
[03:29] <dlfaial> Hey guys..
[03:29] <Renodef> TJ-: And here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666454/
[03:29] <lickalott> YO YO!!
[03:30] <Speiros> Ben64 Okay. I'll try again mate.  Thanks.
[03:30] <glitsj16> Dreamer3: sudo sh -c "echo 'manual' > /etc/init/mysql.override" is the recommended upstart routine so it doesn't start automatically, just remove that file if you want to return to auto-starting again ... by renaming/relocating it you won't be able to start mysql manually if you need to
[03:31] <Dreamer3> oh nice
[03:31] <lickalott> hey guys, having an issue with vsftpd.  For some reason I can't get in from outside the local network.  the port is forwarded in my router (i changed it in the .conf) but it's not working.  I can do it all day long using the internal address.  Does vsftpd not like a non-default port setting?
[03:32] <harrisr> hi i installed pipelight in order to watch netflix but when i got to about:plugins in firefox under pipelight it says Pipelight Error (silverlight5.1)!
[03:32] <Dreamer3> guess i can resize the ram and disk while pastie is down :(
[03:32] <TJ-> glitsj16: Good point... I was reading about that a couple days ago but forgot entirely!
[03:32] <dlfaial> cedar trail gpu trouble here..
[03:32] <lickalott> I get this (from filezilla) Server sent passive reply with unroutable address. Using server address instead.
[03:33] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, can you show me "ls -al /var/lib/apt/lists/partial | pastebinit"
[03:34] <daftykins> lickalott: FTP requires more than just port 21, it requires a data range too. are you sure you've done this?
[03:34] <glitsj16> TJ-: only picked that up from the upstart cookbook a few days ago myself, easy & nice
[03:34] <lickalott> forwarded in the router daftykins?
[03:35] <Renodef> TJ- : "OK" ??!! 4k+ lines lol. You realise...at this point you might as well be a witch doctor, and me a pre-allopathy man-with-a-malaise right? :D Anyway.. here's the ls -al http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666483/
[03:35] <daftykins> lickalott: yep
[03:35] <daftykins> lickalott: although are you sure it's confirmed as open?
[03:36] <lickalott> no I haven't done that....  what do i need to set (how many)?  like 2-3 ports?
[03:36] <lickalott> it's a non-standard port so i'm assuming so.  I set it in the .conf and set it in the forwarding portion of the router.
[03:37] <TJ-> Renodef: Bashing-om: haha, so we've found them in the partial directory... but they didn't get moved apparently
[03:37] <harrisr> hi i installed pipelight in order to watch netflix but when i got to about:plugins in firefox under pipelight it says Pipelight Error (silverlight5.1)!
[03:37] <Speiros> Hello again folks.
[03:38] <Speiros> Ben64  It didn't start once again.
[03:38] <Speiros> Ben64 Maybe I need to give up on installing it, and work on fixing this version first on my computer.
[03:39] <asdfgh> is there a gnome2 ppa for ubuntu 13.10?
[03:39] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om : so manually move it to the lists folder? Or is there something else?
[03:40] <MartynKeigher> hey all. just a quick one.... there are 2 commands to add a user right?
[03:40] <MartynKeigher> useradd and adduser ???
[03:40] <MartynKeigher> which one gives you options after you create the account?
[03:40] <Speiros> Ben64 Seriously, my hands have been tied for way too long with this problem.  I've been getting to different stages only to get let down when it comes to the application of any of them, and I can't.  I believe it's my databases, and the passwords.
[03:40] <MartynKeigher> to set fodlers, etc??
[03:40] <TJ-> Renodef: No, we need to find out *why* it is failing... I'm still trawling through the strace log line by line
[03:40] <Ben64> Speiros: use a different computer to burn the iso to a disc
[03:40] <lickalott> heh... daftykins, looks like it IS being used by another process.
[03:41]  * lickalott facepalms
[03:41] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks anyway mate.  I can't keep on working on it.  I believe it's this version and the errors that are stopping everything else from working properly.
[03:42] <daftykins> lickalott: doh!
[03:42] <Ben64> Speiros: burning from a different computer is the simplest solution
[03:42] <TJ-> Renodef: I found this: looks like what we should expect for all '.gpg' files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666497/
[03:42] <lickalott> first time I've ever randomly picked numbers and they were used....  LOL
[03:42] <Pici> MartynKeigher: Neither of them. adduser will ask for some extra information, but iirc home directory is not one of them, you would need to use a separate argument to override the default.
[03:43] <hkr> Hi people!
[03:43] <eyesec> Hello!!
[03:43] <Speiros> Ben64 Since smashing the laptop for exactly the same reason, I don't have that option.  You'll have to take my word for it, that it didn't work.  The laptop no longer is a point of my frustration.  It is this version 10.4, and it's something that's happened that is stopping me from being able to fix or change important stuff.
[03:43] <hkr> Is there any way to use dolphin as the desktop file manager in xubuntu ?
[03:44] <wazer> Hello all!
[03:44] <Ben64> Speiros: i don't know how 10.04 is stopping you from using another computer to burn 12.04, but ok
[03:44] <wazer> I have an interesting linux question... I was wondering if anyone here might know the answer to.
[03:44] <Speiros> Ben64 I was using the lappy with THIS computer, and two others, back in 2010 trying to get things working, then again in 2012, just on a year ago.  After the laptop release of pent up madness and rage, I punched it, ripped it in half and threw it in the bin.  I felt great.
[03:45] <Renodef> TJ- Right. Don't get what the chmod system call is doing there. As in what 0644 corresponds to. And why is it renaming it in order to move it?
[03:45] <whatisthematrix> hkr: have you tried it? have you tried typing dolphin on the command line?
[03:45] <wazer> Ok so very basic example.. we have a text file file.txt and that file contains the text 123.  If I cat file.txt I see 123.  Like I said very basic.
[03:45] <eyesec> hkr: have you read?? ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993795
[03:45] <hkr> yes.
[03:45] <whatisthematrix> hkr: nad?
[03:45] <whatisthematrix> hrk and?
[03:45] <TJ-> Renodef: "mv" is just a rename ... the chmod is ensuring it has rw-r--r-- permissions
[03:45] <hkr> the desktop still uses thunar
[03:46] <whatisthematrix> hkr: what happened?
[03:46] <eyesec> there seem to be a few people trying, I haven't read the entire thread. hopefully there's something useful in there
[03:46] <TJ-> Renodef: Can you "pastebinit /etc/apt/trusted.gpg"
[03:46] <wazer> What if I want to dynamically generate what is in the file?  So instead of the text file containing 123 I want to do something like cat file.txt and when this happens I want file.txt to come back with the result of a command such as echo 123 instead of the static text.
[03:46] <hkr> I can set dolphin as default but I need thunar to do stuff in the desktop. Its xubuntu saucy
[03:46] <wazer> similar to what we get if we run echo 123 | cat
[03:47] <Renodef> TJ- Yup.. here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666506/
[03:47] <glitsj16> Speiros: you posted something earlier about an error 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: yes) .. which smells like a mysql error afaik .. no clue how that intervenes with trying to make a bootable usb or using unetbootin, but it might suggest a starting point to get working on your other issues ... just a thought, and goodluck
[03:47] <whatisthematrix> hkr: okay. so you're saying that dolphin did not start up from the command line?
[03:47] <jeffrey_f> wazer: What do you need to know.  Yes, that is what you should see.  What are you trying to do?
[03:47] <hkr> no
[03:47] <hkr> it did
[03:48] <wazer> so I want to do something like the following
[03:48] <hkr> but my desktop uses thunar
[03:48] <wazer> cat file.txt <--- I want this to return the output of a command instead of an actual flat file
[03:48] <hkr> suppose I create a new folder, it says it needs thunar to do so
[03:48] <whatisthematrix> hkr: oh.. okay. yeah, you'll want to leave thunar as the desktop file manager. but since dolphin did start from the command line, could you not use it?
[03:49] <Speiros> glitsj16 Thanks.  Yes, it might be.  Do you have any idea how I can fix it?  I tried the command to change the password, but it didn't work either.
[03:49] <wazer> reason being... I need to pass a "text file" into another program as an argument... I don't really want to store that as a text file... I want it to run a command
[03:49] <MartynKeigher> thank you Pici !
[03:49] <wazer> but I need the program to think it is just getting it from a text file
[03:49] <hkr> eyesec
[03:49] <hkr> that didnt help me at all
[03:49] <eyesec> umm okay, sorry?
[03:49] <TJ-> Renodef: ahhh darn, I forgot it isn't text... try this instead "hexdump -C /etc/apt/trusted.gpg | pastebinit"
[03:49] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks for your time and energy mate.  I know it's frustrating.  Very frustrating.  So thanks for your part with MY problem.:)
[03:50] <glitsj16> Speiros: not exactly no, better seek help from a mysql helper on that, been years since i've touched sql databases sorry
[03:50] <jeffrey_f> wazer: So you want the ouput of a command to be the input to another program?
[03:50] <whatisthematrix> hkr: yeah, i really don't think you'll want to use dolphin as the default/desktop file manager in xfce. sorry, for some reason i didn't catch that in your original post. i just thought you wanted to use dolphin in xubuntu
[03:51] <wazer> correct but I need the other program who is receiving the output to think it is just getting it from a text file
[03:51] <hkr> okay ._.
[03:51] <wazer> example: myprogram --username wazer --password file.txt
[03:51] <Speiros> glitsj16 Is this the right page to be asking for help with that on?
[03:51] <jeffrey_f> wazer: how do you input to your program now?
[03:51] <wazer> but file.txt (doesn't actually have to be .txt)
[03:51] <wazer> so now it would be
[03:51] <whatisthematrix> hkr: i should say that i don't think you'll want to set it, as the default in xfce. maybe someone else would know if that's possible.
[03:51] <wazer> just as my example above you can pass in a filename
[03:52] <Renodef> TJ - here you go :http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666516/
[03:52] <wazer> and it will load the password out of that file
[03:52] <hkr> Its not possible. only thing i hate about xfce
[03:52] <wazer> obviously I don't really want to store the password in the file
[03:52] <glitsj16> Speiros: try, people will point to other channels if they think it to be inappropriate :)
[03:52] <wazer> so I would prefer to execute a command that will get the password
[03:52] <whatisthematrix> hkr: to handle the desktop i mean
[03:52] <Speiros> glitsj16 Thanks
[03:52] <hkr> everything else is almost perfect... i get it
[03:52] <Speiros> Okay, how do I word this...
[03:53] <jeffrey_f> wazer:  CommandOrProgramOutputting | CommandOrProgramInput
[03:53] <whatisthematrix> hkr: ask the original question again and see if anyone know. good luck
[03:53] <wazer> hrrmm so you think it would work something like my example above?... piping it over?
[03:54] <hkr> nah ... ill try other DEs
[03:54] <wazer> example: ./decrypt_my_pass | myprogram --username wazer --password ?? what goes here
[03:54] <whatisthematrix> hkr: okay, roger that. good idea i think
[03:54] <Speiros> I have a problem with my computer giving me access to add/remove or edit programs.  I have sudo permissions, and I have the ring password too.  They are different.  The sudo password was changed.  Also there is another factor that I don't know is related, but might be, in that my home file isn't called home, but the path shows it as a file above the one that comes up when I go to "home"
[03:55] <wazer> jeffrey_f: I apprecaite your input on this..!
[03:55] <wazer> appreciate rather*
[03:56] <jeffrey_f> wazer: Unless you want to do something with the sedondary output, you could just capture it to a file:  CommandOrProgramOutputting | CommandOrProgramInput > CaptureFile.txt
[03:56] <wazer> hmmm it isn't that though
[03:56] <wazer> I want to avoid storing the password in a file
[03:57] <jeffrey_f> wazer:  you can grep for keywords in the output and store that too
[03:57] <Renodef> dammit... I typoed your irc name... here's the pastebin you asked for TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666516/ (hexdump)
[03:59] <TJ-> Renodef: I got it earlier; thanks. It confirms that the contents of the file look OK but I'm cross-checking it right now
[03:59] <davidrsmorris> Hey, I'm trying to set my arrow keys so that with some other key pressed down they'll send pgup/pgdown/home/end.  That won't get sent with shift+arrow when I apply a .xmodmap with the appropriate keysym in the second field.  Does anyone have experience with this?
[04:02] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo apt-key list | pastebinit"
[04:02] <Guest16082> kj
[04:04] <Guest16082> s
[04:07] <peyam> Hej
[04:07] <nightdemon666> Can any one guide me to a channel here on the freenode server that supports wireless network 802.11 pentesting?
[04:07] <peyam> ##hardware
[04:08] <nightdemon666> Is that answer for me?
[04:08] <peyam> Does anybody know if the values here are normal. isn't conkt too high? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666557/
[04:08] <peyam> yes
[04:09] <Renodef> TJ- here's sudo apt-key list | pastebinit - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666516/
[04:09] <nightdemon666> What does the '##' mean before channels? Most just have one '#'
[04:09] <peyam> the same
[04:09] <peyam> just try it
[04:09] <Renodef> TJ- sorry.. that was the earlier link. here..http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666565/
[04:10] <SeanJohn85> Hello
[04:12] <SeanJohn85> I bought a new Toshiba Satellite With Win 8.1 and touch screen.. Was very hard to get the installer to run.. kept getting a black screen when X started no matter wht mode I set at boot. But the minimal net installer seemed to work.
[04:12] <SeanJohn85> Now I just have no WiFi
[04:12] <SeanJohn85> Thinking its a friver issue
[04:12] <SeanJohn85> I have no wy to wire the laptop
[04:13] <peyam> SeanJohn85, Update the distro with wired and then it will apear in Software source
[04:13] <peyam> Then use the USB stick
[04:13] <SeanJohn85> I can't wire it
[04:14] <SeanJohn85> peyam.. what will appear?
[04:14] <SeanJohn85> The wireless driver?
[04:14] <SeanJohn85> or wrapper?
[04:14] <peyam> when you update the distro it will apear a " drivers" in ur software source> additional drivers
[04:14] <peyam> the driver. you dont have the drive installed
[04:14] <TJ-> Renodef: I just lost connection so if you posted anything, can you resend?
[04:15] <SeanJohn85> Can I download it in windows and transfer it to the partition.. I have setup EXT3 r/w from windows
[04:15] <MrJerome> I keep getting "system problem detected" after logging in. How can I diagnose the problem?
[04:15] <SeanJohn85> Cause I have no way to get a wired connection right now
[04:15] <Renodef> yeah.. my last was this pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666565/  (they keys)
[04:15] <Renodef> (@ TJ-)
[04:15] <peyam> wouldnt be so good. never tried it
[04:16] <nightdemon666> Whoa whoa whoa seanjohn... hold up here, FIRST, what wireless chipset is in that thing?
[04:16] <peyam> SeanJohn85, Use the usb stick. you can choose to install drivers from that
[04:16] <TJ-> Renodef: I think you missed my last 2 messages then...:
[04:16] <TJ-> Renodef: OK, try this: "sudo apt-key update 2>&1 | tee /tmp/apt-key-update.log && pastebinit /tmp/apt-key-update.log"
[04:16] <TJ-> Renode, then redo the earlier command to see if any keys have changed: "sudo apt-key list | pastebinit"
[04:17] <nightdemon666> You need to do an lspci command and you may even grep out the "wireless" word to output just the wireless card in your laptop.
[04:18] <ZestyFT> SeanJohn, are you having trouble with Broadcomm drivers?
[04:18] <nightdemon666> Thats what im trying to figure out too...
[04:18] <nightdemon666> We need to find out whats under the hood first zesty
[04:19] <ryoungs66> Anyone on familiar with setting up samba?
[04:19] <Renodef> TJ- In order, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666600/, and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666606/
[04:19] <nightdemon666> I sure am :-)
[04:19] <stewieY> Anyone know how to make it stop spamming whenever anyone connects or leaves the channel?
[04:19] <nightdemon666> Ryoung
[04:20] <peyam> I used the cd /usb sitck for getting the drives ones! it worked very good
[04:20] <nightdemon666> What do you want to know about it ryoungs
[04:20] <nightdemon666> Peyem what usb stick are you using with drivers on it?
[04:21] <ryoungs66> I setup a brand new ubuntu install, I installed samba and samba-common.  I have a windows 7 server that I can connect to via another windows 7 and via smb on my wii.
[04:21] <ryoungs66> However, when I try to connect from ubuntu, it doesn't ask for a username/password and just automatically declines access
[04:22] <nightdemon666> Um,are you just trying to access a smb share on your windows 7 machine from an ubuntu machine? Or are you trying to set up another smb share on ubuntu for other machines to connect to via smb?
[04:22] <ryoungs66> The first one
[04:23] <ryoungs66> I can see the shared folders when I open the ip address, but no dice on accessing them
[04:25] <TJ-> Renodef: server dropped again; if you messaged me in the last 2 minutes, repeat :)
[04:25] <Ben64> ryoungs66: you probably have to enter your windows username and password to access the shares
[04:25] <nightdemon666> Then what you do when you connect to the smb share on your windows 7 machine (first of all, you dont need samba to do this) is to specify the user name and password to the smb share and path to the smb share via ubuntu. The "connect to server" option should be available in ubuntu, and give you such options. If you were using kde, you would just type smb://user@192.168.x.x in the dolphin file browser, but in nautilus i d
[04:27] <Bashing-om> TJ; Renodef's last :  In order, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666600/, and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6666606/
[04:27] <TJ-> Bashing-om: Thanks, I have those ... waiting for Renodef to confirm if the Google key is there now
[04:28] <nightdemon666> Yes and what ben64 said is also true. You must access the share via the credentials allowed to access the share, likely the admin account for the windows 7 machine,and possibly any other user you allowed access from the windows 7 machine.
[04:28] <ryoungs66> "Connect to server" doesn't give me any options for entering usernames or passwords
[04:28] <ejaun> hey bros i have a 3TB hard drive, so i have it in GPT, but grub wont install. from googing i see i need a partition at the beginning of the drive marked as bios_grub/EF02 is this possible to do from the net install?
[04:28] <Renodef> Bashing-om TJ- in the key list? That's the 606 paste..
[04:28] <nightdemon666> Select windows share
[04:28] <nightdemon666> Ryoungs
[04:28] <ryoungs66> doesn't seem to have that either.
[04:29] <TJ-> Renodef: nope, I think you missed my last request. I assumed it had got through...
[04:29] <TJ-> Renodef: We're almost there I think ... one more key to restore
[04:29] <TJ-> Renodef: "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys A040830F7FAC5991"  ... that should import the "Google Inc. Linux Package Signing Key" ... check afterwards with "apt-key list | grep Google" and tell me it if is there, or not
[04:29] <nightdemon666> That option should be available in a drop down menu ryoungs
[04:30] <nightdemon666> Youhave more than ine option. Windows share, ssh, etc...
[04:31] <nightdemon666> And what version on ubuntu are you running ryoungs?
[04:31] <ryoungs66> I'm using the default "files" icon, should I be using something else? Also, when I hit connect to server it shows a recent list, in there it says windows share
[04:31] <ryoungs66> The latest
[04:31] <tonito> FRIENDS
[04:31] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om : the key's there
[04:31] <tonito> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WINE
[04:32] <Renodef> TJ- Bashin-om : but during the key request.. it STILL says no ultimately trusted keys found
[04:32] <athene_noctua> Me too . . .
[04:32]  * athene_noctua glug glug glug
[04:33] <jeffrey_f> tonito?  what is the problem?  (My bottle is empty here...Just sayin)
[04:33] <TJ-> Renodef: OK... let's try an update then "sudo apt-get update"
[04:34] <cppmaniac> tonito: your problem IS WINE!
[04:34] <Bashing-om> Renodef: TJ has the ball. let's await him to advise to "update" and what the "untrusted" means .. NM .. TJ got it !
[04:35] <nightdemon666> Well, i believe, i remember that you connect to servers from the desktop on the top bar. You should be able to select more than one server when you select the "connect to server" option. You should be able to select windows share as an option, and enter your user name and password and path to share to connect.
[04:35] <Renodef> Bashing-om Well well TJ- DID get it!
[04:35] <nightdemon666> But remember that the user name MUST be an applicable user to the share, and the password for that user.
[04:36] <Renodef> Bashing-om TJ- sudo apt-get update didn't return any errors this time! But..but.. HOW?
[04:37] <Bashing-om> TJ: Renodef: Yeah, inquirung minds want to know.
[04:38] <jeffrey_f> tonito: Just ask the question.
[04:38] <ryoungs66> nightdemon666 - http://askubuntu.com/questions/289705/ubuntu-13-04-any-way-to-restore-connect-to-windows-share-as-a-different-user
[04:38] <jeffrey_f> tonito: You may get better help in #winehq
[04:38] <ryoungs66> Apparentely I'm not the only one :)
[04:39] <tonito> nothing responsed :(
[04:39] <TJ-> Renodef: grrr, the IRC server lost it again . So... your system is OK again now?
[04:39] <cppmaniac> tonito: what's your problem?
[04:39] <tonito> no one answers
[04:39] <Renodef> TJ- yeah! But both Bashing-om and I want to know HOW?
[04:40] <TJ-> Renodef: First we cleared out corrupt files from "/var/lib/apt/lists" then we identified which keys were missing from "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg" and we updated it from the ubuntu-keyrings file, and then added the Google key
[04:40] <tonito> the problem is with the install gameranger as indicated on the website of wine but the cursor does not create anything puiedo host or enter the halls
[04:41] <cppmaniac> tonito: do you try playonlinux?
[04:41] <cr4p> aloha
[04:42] <tonito> nou
[04:42] <tonito> i go try
[04:42] <Renodef> TJ- but I thought you wanted to figure out why they weren't getting moved from lists/partial to /lists ? Did you? cc Bashing-om
[04:42] <cppmaniac> tonito: just a tip. Wine sucks! Use a VM and be happy!
[04:42] <nightdemon666> Yeah... it appears ubuntu programmers broke what they werent suppose to, and was working just fine. I assume you upgraded. If you could, may you please attempt to connect to smb share via nautilus by typing smb://user@ipaddress/share
[04:42] <nightdemon666> Thanks :-)
[04:42] <Ben64> !appdb | tonito
[04:43] <Renodef> TJ- Bashing-om After all this, update manager now says the package info was just updated..and there are no updates. lol. 6 days without updates is a first.
[04:43] <TJ-> Renodef: They couldn't be verified because the most senior key of all was missing
[04:43] <TJ-> Renodef: Being Precise LTS that isn't too surprising especially over the winter holiday break
[04:45] <Bashing-om> TJ; As I live and learn, did know know there WAS a hierarchy !
[04:45] <tonito> as I can install games from a virtual machine?
[04:45] <cppmaniac> tonito: the same way you install on windows xp
[04:45] <ryoungs66> nightdemon666, thank you so much, I figured it out now
[04:46] <tonito> a ok thanks a lot guys (y)
[04:46] <cppmaniac> tonito: install VirtualBox on Ubuntu Software Center
[04:46] <tonito> thanks! (Y)
[04:46] <Renodef> TJ- ah. I still don't understand the last part of what you did though. i.e. 1) Downloaded the A040... (Google Linux Package signing key) using the recv-leys command 2) THIS still told me that no ultimately trusted keys were found 3) Yet somehow running update manager after this worked.
[04:46] <cppmaniac> tonito: you're welcome
[04:46] <asl35mca> hi
[04:47] <TJ-> Renodef: "The Warning: "no ultimately trusted keys found" means that gpg was not configured to ultimately trust a specific key. Trust settings are part of OpenPGPs Web-of-Trust which does not apply here. So there is no problem with this warning."
[04:47] <asl35mca> does ubuntu support touch screens?
[04:48] <TJ-> Renodef: The critical step was "sudo apt-key update" which fixed the missing Ubuntu key. The Google key was a side-show really.
[04:48] <cppmaniac> asl35mca: yep
[04:48] <nightdemon666> ryoungs66 what did you do to figure it out? Just curious?
[04:49] <Renodef> TJ- oh wait..yeah.. I assumed you'd asked me to run sudo apt-get update after the google sideshow (as you put it). but it was actually sudo apt-KEY update.
[04:49] <ryoungs66> Not only do you have to put "username@servername" but you also have to include the share name, ie "Robert@192.168.1.21/users"
[04:51] <Guest93315> i m getting "qemu: Unsupported system call:184" lines after running almost every command on chroot using qemu-arm-static emulator. What does that mean?
[04:53] <Renodef> TJ- ok..now going back through bash history I realise when it was done. Cool. :) So you also said something about the most senior key not being available... does that mean that once this seniormost key is added to trusted.gpg -> the subsequent keys will end up being identified as ultimately trusted?
[04:55] <TJ-> Renodef: No, as I said, web-of-trust isn't used so that warning can be safely ignored. The missing Ubuntu key (437D05B5) is the original Ubuntu signing key and that was the one that most Release files were missing... the only other missing was the Google key for its own repo
[04:56]  * zh1 http://youtu.be/7vaVtvpaDoQ
[04:57] <Renodef> TJ- ok..so if I (finally get it) each package's key needs both its specific package key as well as the ubuntu signing key in order to get a good signature? (and Google... needs a google products wide key for its own repo, I assume the ubuntu key, as well as the individual google product key)
[04:59] <nightdemon666> ryoungs right, or what ever your share name is. If it happens to be "users" thats just the way you named the share or "directory" which is essentially what you are "sharing" in the future, please understand that SAMBA is a server application for unix like systems to basically emulate an smb protocol file system access. Like ftp. Just smb instead. You ONLY would need SAMBA if you plan on hosting an smb protocol filesyste
[05:03] <TJ-> Renodef: The "*Releases" file for each archive pocket contain MD5sums of other files. To guarantee the MD5sums have not be compromised, the Release file is cryptographically signed using the archive private key and a detached signature (the *Release.gpg files) generated. "apt-get update" fetches the Releases and Releases.gpg files, and then verifies the Releases file against the Releases.gpg signature, from the public half of the signing key stored in /etc/apt/tru
[05:03] <TJ-> sted.gpg
[05:03] <ryoungs66> Ok, thanks mate
[05:03] <nightdemon666> :-)
[05:04] <jimmy__> Need some boot help for 12.04.03
[05:07] <Bashing-om> TJ: You have added to my store of knowledge, thanks !
[05:08] <nightdemon666> ryoungs, but now that you have samba installed, you may now host an smb share from your ubuntu machine :-) i do that to host my movies and tv shows, and other access needs to windows pc's and works great. I can control access and users and all :-) my wife and child can access what they want, given they have the appropriate rights privileges to access. All day long :-) and of course i control all of this via ssh from my 
[05:10] <Renodef> TJ- concur with Bashing-om... Thanks for all the help guys!
[05:10] <ryoungs66> Yea, I'm going to setup a samba sharing machine
[05:10] <lickalott> okay, next question...  has anyone successfully gotten ssh AND sftp to work with the same user?
[05:10] <ryoungs66> I looked into a nas, but they are ridiculously expensive
[05:11] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Sure pur a smile on my face !
[05:11] <xomrk> Is site http://ogame.sub.cat/ works to you ?
[05:16] <nightdemon666> ryoungs, ill make sure i pass on the knowledge that what is mostly expensive is convenience, not product. I went to costco today and saw a chromebook. You think im gonna spend money on a chromebook when i can download the open source version over the net? No. What about expensive routers? You think im gonna buy some fancy ass router, when i can transform what router i already have, and don't use cuz i have at&t server, 
[05:18] <ryoungs66> If I was only planning on hosting one hard drive, I'd consider a NAS, but my media is starting to cover 3 TB's worth, and I really don't care to invest in such a large drive when I could just get 3x1tb drives and put them in a spare comp I don't use.
[05:19] <nightdemon666> And all the while, i crack your wireless routers, and download what ever the f*** i want cuz i can and I will, and until you care enough, you cant keep me out! Ill get in eventually :-D watch! Now ill get kicked for that one :-D
[05:20] <analyser0013> wuld eclipse be able to run java programs for ubuntu 12.04
[05:21] <ryoungs66> lol
[05:21] <analyser0013> :(
[05:21] <ryoungs66> cracking mine is probably not that hard, but I've got nothing you can't get from netflix :)
[05:24] <nightdemon666> ryoungs66 i agree with you. Nas is as good as you make it. And with protocol and port restrictions, you can make it pretty damn difficult to crack. Could take life times. So host your shares via sftp, NOT samba to what ever you please, and make it difficult as shit for whom ever attempts to break in. >:-D
[05:24] <tbo> morning, I have a little problem with Ubuntu 13.10 and a eeePC with an intel 5300 wifi card, it loses contact or can't connect to any host after a while or high load
[05:25] <ryoungs66> will sftp allow me to play media without transferring it first?
[05:26] <elmalafacha> can someone  help me to install ubuntu 13.10 with an ssd and hdd, how can I do the partition, PLEASE!
[05:26] <nightdemon666> Yes ryoungs66 but it seems to be slower. Likely cuz the encryption. Inside network its not bad, but over internet, worst ever :-(
[05:29] <ryoungs66> Gotcha, I'll check it out.  Biggest problem I face is making it easy enough that my wife can access it too.
[05:31] <him-cesjf> Hey! If Im logged in as user suki and pwd returns /home/suki, should running command - sudo chown -Rv suki:suki . - do any harm?
[05:31] <SetiAmon> Hey is there a way to increase the  button size.like close/minimize/maximize buttons.they look awefully small on my display\
[05:33] <saruman_> hi
[05:33] <sun> sun
[05:33] <saruman_> my headphones have mysteriously stopped working, could someone help me find the issue ?
[05:33] <saruman_> the driver in the gui updates when i plug them in
[05:34] <saruman_> but the sound goes away, the internal speakers still work however
[05:34] <saruman_> oh and the headphones are good they work on another device
[05:34] <nightdemon666> ryoung66 the easiest way to make your media shares accessible and easy for your wife is via smb. Just make a windows share as easily as possible via windows, and she can double click what media she wants. If its movies, i strongly suggest vlc media player :-)
[05:35] <ryoungs66> I love vlc
[05:35] <saruman_> nightdemon666: now THAT is a good geeky nick :)
[05:35] <ryoungs66> So much better then WMP
[05:35] <ryoungs66> Just wondering, if I want to share between two linux's, what's the best way?
[05:35] <nightdemon666> Lol, saruman, i just l
[05:36] <saruman_> ryoungs66: ya given the new interface for wmp sucks ass and vlc has alot more features and plays more audio formats
[05:36] <saruman_> nightdemon666: what about you btw, ever seen this issue ? it doesn't make sense that between boots they'd suddenly stop working yet my internal speaker works
[05:36] <nightdemon666> Picked it for this irc server so i could access it.  But i did access irc chats wat back in the 90's ;-)
[05:36] <Guest37367> new play
[05:36] <saruman_> wait a sec lemme check something
[05:36] <ryoungs66> I love that vlc has the ability to increase the sound level so high.  I can't hear my laptop with wmp, but vlc is loud
[05:37] <MrSun> ello
[05:39] <nightdemon666> Yes, ryoungs66 vlc is awesome for that, but i actually really like totem for its simplicity, and the fact that it just works with all the plug-ins and just fine. I actually use totem as my main player :-)
[05:39] <MrSun> what distros are most people using?
[05:40] <Ben64> MrSun: this is #ubuntu, so Ubuntu.
[05:40] <MrSun> Ben64, not necessarily true. im here but on bodhi.
[05:41] <saruman_> grrrrrr
[05:41] <saruman_> still f's up
[05:41] <nightdemon666> Well,i was going to try helping saruman  :-/
[05:41] <Ben64> MrSun: either way polling for distros isn't on topic here. and bodhi isn't supported here either
[05:41] <ryoungs66> I want to write a web service program where the code is the same in windows and linux, what's my best choice for a language?
[05:42] <saruman_> nightdemon666,: please do :(
[05:42] <saruman_> nightdemon666: i tried rebooting without my headphones plugged in, for some reason that seemed worth a try, same symptom
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> ryoungs66: off topic. but pythons pretty OS agnostic
[05:42] <LastArms> I have an ubuntu server running webmin acting as a DHCP server. The clients are able to ping out. I can't ping the clients from the router. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong?
[05:43] <LastArms> route has "10.0.2.0      *       255.255.255.0      U      0      0      0     eth1"
[05:43] <saruman_> as beautiful as ubuntu has become,  given the disparity of file locations and options i hope they start adding better configurators for things like sound and modelines soon
[05:43] <nightdemon666> Um, ryoungs66, try html + java + php + css lol!
[05:43] <hitsujiTMO> !webmin
[05:43] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I know it's not supported
[05:43] <saruman_> nightdemon666: so what would you need to help me out ?
[05:44] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I'm sure there's something with the routing that's not passing the ping
[05:44] <LastArms> Webmin is not supported, but it's working. It's basically just a GUI on top of iptables etc
[05:44] <nightdemon666> Saruman
[05:44] <nightdemon666> saruman, is this an hp machine?
[05:44] <Ben64> LastArms: if you know its not supported, why come asking about it here?
[05:44] <LastArms> actually I'm just wondering about the routing table
[05:45] <Ben64> "...is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system."
[05:45] <LastArms> DHCP clients can ping to each other and to the main core router
[05:45] <LastArms> however, the DHCP server can't ping the clients
[05:45] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: webmin makes configs that are incompatable with ubuntu. most likely its caused by some conflict
[05:46] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: sorry, forget about webmin for a second. For my server to ping to a DHCP client connected to my server, do I need the packet to be routed in the routing table?
[05:46] <nightdemon666> LastArms, mare sure that your server excepts pings (imcp)
[05:46] <LastArms> nightdemon666: looking at IP tables, no packets are dropped. I feel that the packet is just going to the wrong place
[05:46] <saruman_> nightdemon666: sorry
[05:47] <saruman_> nightdemon666: oddly enough its an asus lol
[05:47] <LastArms> I have "10.0.2.0        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1"
[05:47] <john_doe_jr1> how do I know what devices are associated w/ devices listed in /dev/disk…. ?
[05:48] <LastArms> I would think that that will allow all packets that is going to 10.0.2.* to be routed via eth1
[05:48] <Ben64> john_doe_jr1: try "sudo blkid"
[05:48] <LastArms> but it seems that it's not going there
[05:49] <saruman_> nightdemon666: so nope not an hp
[05:49] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: what ip is the ping coming from?
[05:50] <LastArms> 10.0.2.1
[05:50] <LastArms> which is my DHCP server
[05:50] <LastArms> and I want to ping to 10.0.2.3
[05:50] <LastArms> which is my DHCP client
[05:50] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: so looks like it has nothing to do with you routing table then.
[05:50] <nightdemon666> Saruman, it may be sharing the same hardware as an asus though. If had issues with hp computers not liking the built-in speakers but adding external speakers works. Please try that, and see if it works. It could be a hardware compatibility issue, and that can only be fixed via driver software :-)
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: have you setup iptables/ufw?
[05:51] <LastArms> yes
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: what did you set?
[05:51] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I have iptables running. I have logging runing as well
[05:52] <nightdemon666> la
[05:52] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: does you iptables config allow icmp through?
[05:52] <saruman_> nightdemon666: i'm having the opposite issue, the speakers work, but the headphone jack is muted, however it worked fine this morning, after a few reboots and an ubuntu update they stopped
[05:52] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: in Input all ICMP is allowed
[05:52] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: Forwarding, is allowed in general
[05:53] <nightdemon666> Lastarms, you need to know some of the answers to your own questions. You should NOT be asking what ip address ping are coming from!
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: can you disable iptables and test the ping then
[05:54] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I tried setting all to accept and it wasn't working... I'll try disabling the whole thing
[05:54] <LastArms> nightdemon666: sorry, did I ask that? I'm pinging from the server which has an address of 10.0.2.1 to the client which has an address of 10.0.2.3
[05:54] <saruman_> nightdemon666: question the file.../usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz does that contain all the modules the kernel can use for sound ?
[05:55] <nightdemon666> Saruman, its probably an config issue then. Did yoy make sure and test with other live systems to make sure they worked as expected
[05:55] <nightdemon666> *expected
[05:55] <saruman_> nightdemon666: you mean like a windows installation ? yes.
[05:55] <saruman_> nightdemon666: if you mean ubuntu live, then yes and it worked
[05:55] <saruman_> nightdemon666: funny thing is i did nothing to the configuration
[05:56] <nightdemon666> No! Absolutely not! We are testing a *nix system, nit a windows system!
[05:59] <nightdemon666> See, theres is a good chance that the code changed and your configuration does not work now. The unfortunate of bleeding edge :-(
[05:59] <samiralajaad> nice name. nightdemon666...
[06:00] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I couldn't find a way to stop iptables, so I reset the whole thing and set it to default (accept all) and it's still not working
[06:02] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: this is the point where i pull out wireshark to see whats happing with the traffic
[06:02] <LastArms> well... I did logging with iptables, and I saw no traffic...
[06:02] <LastArms> thats why I thought it was the routing table...
[06:03] <pikaren> will ubuntu ever defeat windows in the casual user realm?
[06:03] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: but have you checked from the dhcp server to see if its actually sending out a ping? thats why i use wireshark
[06:04] <LastArms> it pings google just fine...
[06:05] <hypercube32> LastArms, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-start-stop-iptables-service/
[06:06] <LastArms> hypercube32: I did that
[06:07] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: can you pastebin the output of: iptables -L
[06:08] <LastArms> http://pastebin.com/fvjCEqWz
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> yup its disabled
[06:09] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: pastebin output of: ifconfig
[06:09] <LastArms> http://pastebin.com/Vza9R8Tb
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: hmm, dropped looks suspicious:  RX packets:1430001 errors:0 dropped:4294967291 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:12] <LastArms> hrmmmm
[06:13] <LastArms> is there iptables for multiple interfaces?
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: no, its the 1 iptables
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: whats output of: arp
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> may take a while
[06:14] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/WWFjrnZy
[06:14] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: you dont by anychance have something like a large MTU on 10.0.2.0?
[06:17] <LastArms> what;s MTU?
[06:17] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: sorry, I just started playing around with networking....
[06:17] <hitsujiTMO> Maximum Transmission Unit ... if you don't know what it is, then most likely you haven't set it
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: can you pastebin from 10.0.2.1: arp
[06:18] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: yup. Didn't play around with MTU..
[06:19] <LastArms> that was the pastebin from 10.0.2.1
[06:19] <LastArms> 10.0.2.3 the one I'm trying to ping is a wireless ap so I can't do arp from there...
[06:20] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: wait ... ok ... then all the testsshould have been performed on 10.0.2.3
[06:21] <LastArms> is a client connected to that be ok?
[06:21] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: is the accesspoint configured to allow icmp?
[06:21] <LastArms> I can ping it from the client...
[06:22] <hitsujiTMO> wait.  which is the dhcp again so?
[06:22] <LastArms> the DHCP server is 10.0.2.1
[06:23] <LastArms> I want to ping from 10.0.2.1 to the wireless ap 10.0.2.3
[06:24] <olf-folks> is this right? i want ot share that dir to the whole network with read/write http://pastebin.com/whwMKrtt
[06:27] <hitsujiTMO> LastArms: hmm. ok. so ... the issue is most likely with the AP since thats whats not seemingly replying. You should use wireshark to see if you are getting a reply or not, and if you are actually sending out a request or not
[06:28] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: ok
[06:28] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: I will try that then
[06:29] <LastArms> hitsujiTMO: thanx for all your help
[06:29] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: 192.168.1.0/24
[06:30] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: should i keep the subnet bit?
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: yups
[06:31] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: looks odd      192.168.1.0/24/255.255.25
[06:32] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: ahh no. i mean /24 is 255.255.255.0
[06:32] <olf-folks> cidr...
[06:32] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: /home/superuser/Desktop/Homenet/ 192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_subtree_check,sync)
[06:37] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: hey
[06:37] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: yo
[06:38] <olf-folks> how do i know if its working?
[06:38] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: figured out what I did exactly with the external drive…the external drive was an external hard drive…I for some reason thought it was a USB device…I formatted it as exFAT….now it's not working at all
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: showmount -e 127.0.0.1
[06:40] <Cheryl_c> Cant find sotware that I installed on Ubuntu. Is there one common place for programs that I install?
[06:41] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: anything showing up for it in gparted?
[06:41] <hitsujiTMO> Cheryl_c: what software so
[06:41] <hitsujiTMO> Cheryl_c: what software?
[06:41] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: it would seem to be working, is there something special for mounting it on one of the clients?
[06:42] <aarcane> Does anybody know how to force DKMS to rebuild a module it says is already built?
[06:43] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: nope: sudo mount ip_of_server:/home/superuser/Desktop/Homenet /path/to/mount/point
[06:43] <Cheryl_c> hitsujiTMO:  Some astrology software that was pinned to the shortcut bar until I made another install and then the icon disappeared. Google play says that it is installed
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !dkms | aarcane maybe something usefull here?
[06:44] <hitsujiTMO> Cheryl_c: what has google play got to do with ubuntu?
[06:44] <Cheryl_c> I mean the sofware center, sorry
[06:45] <Neytiri> this is sort of a odd question, but how woud i use box A as ddos protection for box B
[06:45] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: i'm using an ubuntu server…I can't figure out how to use gparted just from the command line
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Cheryl_c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Astrology
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> Cheryl_c: lol. might just be the .desktop file is missing. search in dash or failing that find the packagename and run: dpkg -L packagename
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Neytiri: you can setup iptables to anti-ddos
[06:46] <Neytiri>  ok, but how do i route the traffic?
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Neytiri: not sure how they config it correct, maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[06:47] <Name141> anyone know how to get Alt + Tab to alt+tabbing (like in windows/cycling through the programs opeN0
[06:47] <Neytiri> kk
[06:48] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: here is the output of sudo fdisk -l => http://pastebin.com/0GXASQ5S
[06:49] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667078/
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Neytiri: look around on iptables+ anti ddos: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/prevent-dos-with-iptables/
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: and thats with the device connected?
[06:49] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: yes
[06:50] <Neytiri> will give it a look thanks
[06:51] <firmware000>  < = olf-folks in the room upstairs
[06:51] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: add "-t nfs" after mount then. have you installed nfs-common on the client?
[06:53] <kelvinella> hello
[06:53] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: never mind it wasn't connected
[06:53] <ben8877755> Hi all. i have a problem with fresh installation 12.04. can anybody help me? in this forum i writed problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2196642 . problem about drivers amd 7850
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> kelvinella: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?
[06:54] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: ok i installed nfs-common and now i got an error i think its on the server side http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667102/
[06:54] <hopkins83> Hi, can someone help me do `npm install seedrandom` on Ubuntu 13.10? I'm getting this error: https://gist.github.com/frankie-loves-jesus/8193484
[06:54] <hopkins83> I also tried upgrading to the latest version of Node using https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager
[06:55] <samm_> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/18/%23ubuntu-ops.html
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> samm_: ?
[06:55] <samm_> bazhang	irc.geekpanties.com? does that ring a bell?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: try disable the graphics drivers and reboot, see what it does
[06:57] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: showmount -e 192.168.1.201
[06:57] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: i've verified that it is connected using the lsusb command, I don't see any change thought => http://pastebin.com/m9aZhzRR
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> !info npm | hopkins83
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: ls -l /dev/sd*
[06:58] <vadi01> hi does ubutu 13.10 support ssd automatically or i still need to edit fstab?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> vadi01: automatic trim support comes on 14.04, so you have to edit yes
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> vadi01: yes and yes
[06:58] <hopkins83> lotuspsychje: What do you mean?
[06:58] <Cheryl_c> lotuspsychje: got the program downloaded just cant acceess it
[06:58] <vadi01> thanks.
[06:59] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: this is what I get => http://pastebin.com/tJDHS2XD
[06:59] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: whats output of: lsusb        an what entry of that is the hdd?
[07:00] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: lsusb => http://pastebin.com/WuMKLTwE ….it is the cypress device
[07:00] <hipitihop> do changes made by xrandr stick across reboots ?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | hipitihop
[07:01] <hopkins83> lotuspsychje: apt-get install npm: "npm is already the newest version."
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> hopkins83: ok you installed it, but cant config right?
[07:02] <hopkins83> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure. Could you have a quick look at https://gist.github.com/frankie-loves-jesus/8193484 for me please?
[07:02] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: what type of device is this exactly? just a hdd?
[07:03] <duhamel> hello all. I am trying to write a script to help my friend put a new kernel on his machine. i want the script to: cd /media/*home*/thumbdrive then run the dpkg command. how do i determine the *home* folder name with script?
[07:03] <hipitihop> lotuspsychje, thanks since I always drive pc from hdmi on single monitor, why does this refer to dual screens and if I use the nvidia config, it has the twin screen disabled
[07:04] <hipitihop> duhamel, you can refer to the home folder with ~/
[07:04] <Cheryl_c> what is an executable file extension for ubuntu programs. I am thinking of launching the software manually
[07:04] <ben8877755> lotuspsychje: Disable in System settings>Additional Drivers ?
[07:05] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: im getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667130/ , im thinking it could be my firewall, i blocked port 111, should that be open? :S
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: yes try to untick the green button, to disable and try a reboot
[07:05] <funky2> (9:03:34 AM) funky2: gheraint: he cant
[07:05] <funky2> (9:03:38 AM) funky2: its him roomie
[07:05] <funky2> (9:03:44 AM) Brian666: He is physically touching my tv
[07:05] <funky2> (9:03:51 AM) Brian666: do i threaten him ?
[07:05] <funky2> :P
[07:05] <FloodBot1> funky2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:06] <firmware000> whut?
[07:06] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: here is a picture of it exactly=> http://www.seagate.com/support/external-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/ ….it is the "External SATA (eSATA) Hard Drive"
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> hopkins83: not sure how its done mate, you sure you got right version? says uncompatible?
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: from the pci id 04b4:8613 it would look like the enclosure has died.
[07:07] <duhamel> hipitihop: so it could be something like /media/~/thumbdrive if that was the thumbdrive label?
[07:07] <Jay__> Hey I'm getting incredibly low internet speeds on Ubuntu, both on wireless and wired - it's working fine on windows. I searched around a bit on the forums and someone asked a person in a similar situation to run 'dmesg | grep -e eth0 -e 00:0e' and when I ran it I noticed a lot of these messages: 'eth0: Detected Hardware Unit Hang:'
[07:08] <hopkins83> lotuspsychje: Dunno dawg. appreciate the help though!
[07:08] <ben8877755> lotuspsychje: thank you. i go to try
[07:08] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: enclosure has died?…what does that mean and how did u come to that conclusion exactly?
[07:09] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: yup. eeprom data is corrupt, http://www.cypress.com/?id=4&rID=39831
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: network card chip and ubuntu version please?
[07:09] <hipitihop> duhamel, I don't think it can be used that way, sorry I didn't see you were trying to substitute in a a composite path
[07:10] <SuperLag> Is there a way to disable the downloading of the language packs, when you're doing an Ubuntu install?
[07:10] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Intel 7260AC, Ubuntu 12.04
[07:10] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: so it's dead?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: can you define 'slow' internet?
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: the enclosure is the case and the board that translates the device from sata -> usb.   since the eeprom has become corrupt its showing up as a development/testing device
[07:11] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: im getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667130/ , im thinking it could be my firewall, i blocked port 111, should that be open? :S
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: whats happening when you browse the web?
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: the enclosure is dead, but not the hard drive. you can open it up, take out the hard drive and put it in a new enclosure or connect it directly to the motherboard/power supply
[07:12] <hipitihop> duhamel, I don't know exact syntax in a script, but you can refer to session environment variables e.g. if you do "echo $HOME" in your terminal
[07:12] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: 2.51Mbps down and 1.09Mbps up (wireless), on wired I was getting like 6 down and 3 up. Though on windows on wireless I get ~30 down and 10 up, and on wired I get around 50 down and 15 up
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: posiibly, disable your firewall temporarily
[07:12] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: alright..is that enclosure never going to work again
[07:12] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Just browsing the web is okay at times but at other times nothing will load at all
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: never
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: did you check your additional driver section, see if anything comes in list?
[07:13] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: alright thank you so much for helping me troubleshoot this…guess I'll be cracking the enclosure then
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: take a look at /var/log/syslog for any network errors aswell plz
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: you can buy replacemem
[07:14] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: you can buy replacements quite cheap http://www.ebay.ie/itm/CiT-2-5-USB-SATA-and-IDE-HDD-Enclosure-External-Case-Hard-Drive-Caddy-/231100316992?pt=UK_Collectables_HardDriveEnclosures_RL&hash=item35cea6fd40
[07:14] <hipitihop> duhamel, however you are not actually interested in the users home by the looks of it
[07:15] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Yeah nothing comes up when looking at additional drivers. Anything I should grep for when looking at the syslog?
[07:15] <kevin_> When I check System Settings ==> Details it reports my Ubuntu Version is 13.10.  When I use lsb_release -a it reports different "Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Bodhi 2.3.0 Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[07:16] <kevin_> and when I'm booting up the Ubuntu Purple boot screen display 12.04 also.  Any suggestions? thnx
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: take a quick view on syslog plain, anything related to wifi/eth could be usefull
[07:16] <ben8877755> I need to see: i removed driver. what I need to see? http://s10.postimg.org/5m02mtc6h/Screenshot_from_2013_12_31_11_15_34.png
[07:17] <kevin_> even calling cat /etc/issue reports Ubuntu 12.04.2 \n \l
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe your card needs a firmware from intel, not sure
[07:17] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: it is really hard to get this enclosure off
[07:17] <kevin_> Is this another case of Multiple Inheritance not being implemented correctly? lol
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: does your graphics work better now?
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: some can be more awkward than others. especially when they dont want you to take them apart
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: what OS did you actually install?
[07:19] <kevin_> The OS is Ubuntu 13.10
[07:19] <kevin_> Upgraded from Ubuntu 13.04
[07:19] <duhamel> hipitihop: yeah i just want to change to the directory the thumb drive is in but obiously not through /dev/ because it will be different on every machine. i want a simple universtal command.
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: did you download from here? http://www.bodhilinux.com/
[07:19] <duhamel> i might just have to give a detailed readme.
[07:20] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_:  --> Bodhi 2.3.0 Release <--    seems you didn't install ubuntu
[07:20] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: there are a couple of things like that
[07:20] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Dec 30 09:41:38 NetworkManager[882]: <error> [1388425298.606932] [nm-dns-dnsmasq.c:393] update(): dnsmasq not available on the bus, can't update servers.
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Jay__
[07:20] <kevin_> Ubuntu 13.10 is installed I have installed Enlightment Desktop, and GDM 3.9.90 also
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: where di you download the ubuntu iso from?
[07:21] <duhamel> might be a python job.
[07:21] <kevin_> Ubuntu Website Official
[07:21] <kevin_> Using different bash calls the system reports a different OS
[07:21] <ben8877755> lotuspsychje: graphics work worse.
[07:21] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: looks like one of your PPAs screwed things up then. i suggest a reinstall
[07:21] <hipitihop> duhamel, fair enough. But is there not a way to correctly install the kernel from the command line on the users machine ? as opposed to providing it on a thumb drive, a script, and instructions
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: you got an nvidia card right?
[07:22] <kevin_> i.e cat/etc or lsb_release or just viewing system details through the GUI each reports a different OS
[07:22] <Cheryl_c> i have version 13.10 and cannot locate the sytstem preferences menu
[07:22] <ben8877755> lotuspsychje: amd hd 7850
[07:22] <kevin_> The system is operating fine its just reporting different versions lol
[07:23] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO: ok, sorry that takes so long but here is an update http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667164/
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: did you lsb release from enlightment desktop?
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: if its reporting different version then the core of the system has been corrupt and can lead to who knows what kind of damage
[07:23] <duhamel> hipitihop: that's the issue im hoping the kernel will fix. he can't even get on with a wired connection.
[07:23] <Jay__> lotuspsycheje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667167/
[07:23] <kevin_> I just think its a Inheritance conflict
[07:23] <kevin_> an*
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: can you lsb release from unity? just to test
[07:24] <kevin_> and elements of the OS are reporting different versions
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> ben8877755: lshw -C video to pastebin plz?
[07:25] <Ben64> kevin_: so you're running bodhi?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: can you paste the whole syslog?
[07:25] <kevin_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Bodhi 2.3.0 Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[07:25] <GEEGEEGEE> im getting "unable to find package ubunt-desktop" im running Ubuntu desktop 12.04
[07:25] <GEEGEEGEE> what do
[07:25] <Ben64> kevin_: then you'll want the bodhi support channel, this is for ubuntu only
[07:25] <kevin_> No i'm not runnning Bodhi I just have Enlightenment Desktop installed as an option
[07:25] <duhamel> hipitihop: if i could it would just be wget the ppa to the home directory and then unpack it right there.
[07:26] <kevin_> This is the correct channel to inquire
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: could it be that enlightment desktop shows bodhi lsb ?
[07:26] <kevin_> as I am using Ubuntu 13.10
[07:26] <Ben64> kevin_: not for bodhi, no
[07:26] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: no
[07:26] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: simply put, the ppa you are using is screwing up your system. you shouldn't use it
[07:26] <kevin_> I'm not using bodhi it is reporting a mix ofBodhi and Ubuntu 12.04 Precise lol
[07:27] <kevin_> Its ok you cant help no problems
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: maybe you should reinstall clean like hitsujiTMO suggested
[07:27] <Ben64> whatever it is, its not supported here
[07:27] <Ben64> you should be more careful of what packages you install
[07:27] <kevin_> No i dont need to its only a reporting error from the system
[07:27] <duhamel> it seems telling the computer to do it should be easier than telling him to though.
[07:28] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Anything else I can check before I do that?
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: ok, on the server lets try something different: mkdir /home/exports
[07:28] <kevin_> Like someone has written down the wrong info into a file that deals only with tell me what Version it is
[07:28] <kevin_> and i'm looking at the file
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe check the intel site for you device, to see if any recent drivers/firmware show?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: did you have your card working on any other ubuntu version?
[07:28] <firmware000> hitsujiTMO:  its not going to hurt if i just ssh into the server right? im starting to get tired of walking all the way back to the server lol
[07:28] <kevin_> For example The entire system is 13.10 but, someone has gone and sent a memo to someone else and told them that it is Bodhi installed.
[07:29] <hitsujiTMO> firmware000: ssh is good :P
[07:29] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: No this is a brand new laptop
[07:29] <adminewb> hi all - question about ubuntu kernel modules, built from source: is it necessary to pull in packages for kernel source, or only kernel headers? make is giving faults indicating something's missing to build ndiswrapper's module, and I can't quite tell what
[07:30] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: as i've explained you're using a crappy ppa to install enlightenment. it will prevent you from installing other software from the ubuntu repo
[07:30] <firmware000> ok i did mkdir /home/exports
[07:31] <kevin_> Not true everything is running fine accept the false reporting
[07:31] <Neytiri> how would i send traffic coming form the public Internet to server A 33.46.23.7  to server B 53.67.2.88
[07:31] <samiralajaad> wait, did you install opera @kevin__
[07:31] <kevin_> I can log into any of them and they work fine
[07:31] <kevin_> So its definetly a reporting bug
[07:31] <duhamel> hipitihop: the fact that what i want to do isn't easy is why linux is pretty much virus-free, i guess.
[07:32] <forlink> hi
[07:32] <Jay__> lotuspsycheje:  https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Wireless+Networking&ProductLine=Intel%C2%AE+Wi-Fi+Products&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Dual+Band+Wireless-AC+7260
[07:33] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: if you want to ignore our warning then that's fine. but know that you will not be able to get any support from anyone with such a setup
[07:33] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: oops got your name wrong for that link. Doesn't look like they have any linux downloads though
[07:34] <firmware000> i made the directory exports now i am suppose to do something
[07:34] <kevin_> Thats fine you are unable to help anyway I'll report the bug the old fashioned way
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe here also: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi
[07:34] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: its not a bug. you've replaced core components with that of another operating system
[07:35] <kevin_> Its a bug thanks very much
[07:35] <kevin_> 100% certainty
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | kevin_
[07:35] <kevin_> Poor engineering and bug
[07:35] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Yeah that's where I got my drivers from to begin with :)
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: did it not work by default?
[07:35] <kevin_> an example of Multiple Inheritance falling flat on its back
[07:36] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: no it did not
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: did you connect to internet to install your ubuntu?
[07:36] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: yep
[07:36] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: err no I didn't sorry
[07:37] <faisal_> got a problem with software center.
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> Mr-Torvalds: can you pastebin your /etc/exports again please
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: i would try with eth0 cable on (if you can)
[07:37] <faisal_> quits and relaunches every time
[07:37] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: what do you mean
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: install ubuntu 12.04 with an ethernet cable in, and check third party software at setup
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: and update system during setup
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe your wifi card will install by default then
[07:38] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Aww, reinstall? :(
[07:39] <duhamel> faisal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get - y remove --purge
[07:40] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: wouldn't it just install the same thing?
[07:40] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: I mean, they have Intel 7260 listed in the iwlwifi link you sent me
[07:40] <duhamel> faisal: not positive but give it a try.
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: you can try mate
[07:40] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: No i mean that's what I did download to get my wifi working in the first place
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: yes but we are not sure those drivers are the best for your card right
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: i would go for the ubuntu default ones
[07:41] <adminewb> kernel module build anyone?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: if its possible, its always best to setup with an internet connection
[07:42] <kevin_> I mean for an "Open" System its extremely sensitive to additions lol
[07:42] <chovy> is it possible to bootup unbuntu so I just get the shell and not the full desktop?
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | adminewb
[07:42] <adminewb> thanks
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> chovy: server?
[07:43] <adminewb> mostly i'm looking to confirm that I need not kernel sources but kernel headers, to build a module
[07:43] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Gotcha. It doesn't seem to work by default though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/322511/no-wireless-with-intel-centrino-advanced-n-7260
[07:43] <Jay__> lotuspsychje:granted that is the N version and not the AC version
[07:44] <adminewb> in which case the make error messages don't seem sensible to me
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: it's not "sensistive" the ppa you install replaced a core package in the system.   its like going into windows 8 and replacing some random lib from windows 2000
[07:44] <kevin_> No its didnt lol
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: hmmm, i remember users having trouble with that N on wifi cards...not sure what they did to solve..think firmware
[07:44] <kevin_> Like I said the system runs fine its reports are conflicting
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: what ppa did you use?
[07:44] <kevin_> using different calls
[07:45] <kevin_> All I have Done and by the way I installed Enlightenment through packages and scripting
[07:45] <kevin_> not through PPA
[07:45] <udaychaitanya> HI
[07:45] <Ben64> kevin_: its not a bug, don't report it
[07:45] <kevin_> already have
[07:46] <Ben64> you messed with system files, and wonder why system files are messed up
[07:46] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: so ... wait ... what???
[07:46] <kevin_> huh?
[07:46] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Yeah the second highest answer on that is a guy linking to the firmware in his dropbox. It's the same one listed on the iwlwifi page though. Also when you install Ubuntu with an internet connection, does it do anything more than just running sudo apt-get update?
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[07:47] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: not sure of that mate, maybe try ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[07:47] <adminewb> must say it mystifies me no end why building kernel modules is forced on any mere mortal; i.e. why would ndiswrapper's module be in source form and not be distributed as binary?
[07:48] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: What do you mean? Is that in response to updating?
[07:48] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: where did you get these packages from? and these scripts?
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: yes
[07:49] <chovy> lotuspsychje: well i want to run the desktop, but i plan on leaving my machine on. I don't want to have the desktop on all the time. just the basic server.
[07:49] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: What are restricted extras and how do I add them? Also is there an easier way to reply to you without having to use the up arrow and deleting my previous comment
[07:50] <kevin_> I went to school one day and realised that this was not one day but one day of many days too come, of which I will be going to school.  I then discovered that if I wanted to Program well I had to go one day to University and study for many more days.  So I did and guess what, I got a degree in Software Engineering!
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | Jay__
[07:50] <adminewb> kevin_ good luck with your piece of paper
[07:50] <kevin_> After that I was able to do all kinds of things with computers like, make all the directories and files show up in this tiny transparent screen called a terminal.  It was really really cool.
[07:51] <hopkins83> How do I list my apt-get packages?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> kevin_: this is an ubuntu support channel mate, go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss your experiences
[07:51] <hopkins83> apt-get list doesnt work
[07:52] <kevin_> if I concatenated two strings together at the right time and maybe .trim() it after I could make things appear alittle better
[07:52] <kevin_> Anyway thats my answer to where I got the scripts from
[07:52] <hopkins83> How do I downgrade from Python 2.7 to Python 2.6?
[07:53] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, hi
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> kevin_: anmd the packages? did you just pull them directly from bodhi?
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: yo
[07:53] <adminewb> kernel module build, anyone? headers not kernel source?
[07:53] <hopkins83> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[07:53] <kevin_> The packages are available if you look around
[07:53] <hopkins83> really??
[07:53] <hopkins83> jesus christ
[07:53] <ghinzu> hi! I run a program through a ssh connection and got disconnected. I've reconnected but lost the output of the process – is it possible to intercept its output anyhow now?
[07:53] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've tried the tests
[07:53] <olf-folks> test
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> !details | adminewb
[07:54] <hopkins83> man ubuntu is MESSED UP
[07:54] <kevin_> It works great just calls used to report info are not agreeing lol
[07:54] <hopkins83> everything is so ass backwards
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !language | hopkins83
[07:54] <hopkins83> oops sorry
[07:54] <kevin_> Like they are referencing different sources
[07:54] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: can you please remind me what the issue was
[07:54] <kevin_> that have been updated with the right or wrong info
[07:54] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/whwMKrtt
[07:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've added a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d
[07:55] <adminewb> in order to install ndiswrapper, one component of it is a kernel module/driver, all right? kernel module building is not for the faint of heart
[07:55] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: ohhh are the restricted extras just the third [party software packages that you have the option of adding during instalation?
[07:55] <kevin_> lsb_release reports differently to cat /etc/
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: i think so yes
[07:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've changed the script
[07:55] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ahh yes. what errors you getting now?
[07:55] <adminewb> my question is, does building the module require kernel source or just headers?
[07:55] <kevin_> I guess which report is the more reliable lsb or cat/etc/
[07:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, same errors, or exactly two of three errors
[07:55] <kevin_> or the System Details GUI
[07:56] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: sorry that was the old paste
[07:56] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: just need the right exports now
[07:56] <cristian_c> stdin: is not a tty
[07:56] <cristian_c> Failed to connect to X Server.
[07:57] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, have I to follow the second point?
[07:57] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: yup. you need the env vars now
[07:57] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: current /etc/exports file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6667276/
[07:57] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Also I'm pretty confident that I installed the firmware correctly now.http://askubuntu.com/questions/394165/ubuntu-12-04-no-wireless-after-install I did the same thing as this guy. Oh and about replying without deleting my previous comment?
[07:57] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Thanks for all the help by the way :)
[07:58] <hopkins83> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 with Python 2.7, but this thing I'm working on needs Python 2.6. Should I downgrade from 2.7 or install 2.6 separately?
[07:58] <adminewb> ahem
[07:58] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, '2. running sh -c 'export -p' > env on a normal terminal and sourcing that env file before the call to synclient'
[07:58] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, how can I apply exactly this point? with the first point too?
[07:58] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: in terminal now run: export -p > ~/envvars
[07:59] <adminewb> one might have guessed that a simple answer would lead to more well targeted questions
[07:59] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: not sure mate never played with such firmware, but you can tryout until your speed runs smooth again
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: now. you want to trim out exports that are ireelevant. such as LS_COLORS
[08:01] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, have I to delete the two lines?
[08:01] <cristian_c> declare -x
[08:01] <cristian_c> and:
[08:02] <cristian_c> LS_COLORS="rs=0:di=01;34:ln=01;36:mh=00:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:su=37;41:sg=30;43:ca=30;41:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.lzma=01;31:*.tlz=01;31:*.txz=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.dz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.lz=01;31:*.xz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;
[08:02] <cristian_c> 31:*.jar=01;31:*.war=01;31:*.ear=01;31:*.sar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.svg=01;35:*.svgz=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.webm=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp
[08:02] <cristian_c> 4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.flv=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.cgm=01;35:*.emf=01;35:*.axv=01;35:*.anx=01;35:*.ogv=01;35:*.ogx=01;35:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav
[08:02] <FloodBot1> cristian_c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:02] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: pastebin the full file
[08:03] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: current /etc/exports file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6667276/
[08:03] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, sorry , I didn't know that this line was so long
[08:04] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: pastebin ~/envvars
[08:04] <cristian_c> ok
[08:04] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Hell I'll just try restating
[08:04] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks change /etc/exports to: /home/exports 192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_subtree_check,sync)
[08:04] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: restarting*
[08:06] <paulus68> j/##ssd
[08:06] <olf-folks> got it hitsujiTMO
[08:06] <paulus68> hitsujiTMO: can you give me the link to the ssd please
[08:07] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: restart the nfs kernel server and try mounting that export
[08:07] <hitsujiTMO> paulus68: to which exactly?
[08:08] <paulus68> the one that lotuspsyche created
[08:08] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/PiqdseGi
[08:08] <ghinzu> hi! I run a program through a ssh connection and got disconnected. I've reconnected but lost the output of the process – is it possible to intercept its output anyhow now?
[08:09] <hitsujiTMO> paulus68: you mean ##linux-ssd ?
[08:09] <paulus68> hitsujiTMO: that's the one
[08:09] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Lol, yay for restarting. Back to getting 45 down and 10 up. Not sure how restarting helped
[08:13] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: its there i just cant seem to mount the thing :( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6667299/
[08:13] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, then, does it need only that envvars file is present in my home because synclient script is working?
[08:14] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: you forgot the mountpoint
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: can you pastebin the wake script you have again?
[08:15] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: hey, I totally took the whole thing apart but I don't see any special way to directly connect to the hard drive
[08:15] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: can you take a pic of the hdd? connector end
[08:16] <john_doe_jr1> it's just the eSata
[08:16] <helmut_> hi
[08:17] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: well it would seem to be working now, how would i make it do what i want lol or is that possible?
[08:17] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/e4EXLAXB
[08:17] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: what you prob need is a sata cable. and a free sata power cable coming from the power supply. with those you should be able to connect it in
[08:17] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: what do you want the export for exactly?
[08:18] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: i'm guessing the issue with the other export was the permission trail. some services requite all parent dirs to be owned by root
[08:19] <willbradley> has anyone bought a high-end laptop recently and had good success with ubuntu compatibility?
[08:19] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: so I took this apart for nothing?
[08:19] <willbradley> looking at ultrabooks, zenbooks, etc
[08:19] <olf-folks> well this is on a server in the middle of my network, and what i would like is a central place to share file of diffrent sorts the server has a designated harddrive mount /dev/sdb1 /home/superuser/desktop/homenet/
[08:19] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: have you not got any spare sata cable?
[08:20] <DarthEaron> im on ubuntu 12.04 and im trying to get 3 finger support for my touchpad. using synclient -m 100 i can see up to 3 finger support. however, touchegg will not see anything other than 2 finger drags, no tap, flick, rotate, pinch, or spread geustures are showing, no 3 finger support at all. (touchegg) can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[08:20] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: change the mnt point?
[08:20] <DarthEaron> ive done alot of research on this over the last two weeks
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: in that case id suggest an alternative mount moint alright.
[08:22] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: it wouldnt hurt if i have 2 diffrent mouts pointing to 2 diffrent locations would it?
[08:22] <DarthEaron> does anyone at least know of a more appropriate channel i could ask?
[08:23] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: as in mount /dev/sdb1 in 2 locations?
[08:23] <olf-folks> yes :)
[08:23] <olf-folks> on my desktop and at /home/exports
[08:23] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: you can't do that ... well... you can possibly bind but i have never done that with actual file systems.
[08:24] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: what about a link, also what about the permissions
[08:24] <DarthEaron> does anyone have any comment?
[08:25] <hopkins83> ../src/JPEGStream.h:11:21: fatal error: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory -- anybody know which package im missing? i already installed imagemagick
[08:25] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: nfs exports will not work with links. try: sudo mount --bind /home/superuser/Desktop/homenet/ /home/exports
[08:26] <hitsujiTMO> hopkins83: what are you trying to compile?
[08:26] <hopkins83> hitsujiTMO: Trying to do `npm install canvas`
[08:27] <hitsujiTMO> hopkins83: maybe imagemagick-dev
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: maybe ubuntu-restricted-extras did the trick after reboot?
[08:28] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: thanks a ton for all of the help this far, im going to play around with it, i will most likly come back if i have trubbles with perms
[08:28] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: np
[08:29] <hopkins83> hitsujiTMO: cool
[08:29] <hopkins83> hitsujiTMO: nah no such package
[08:29] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: I didn't install them :D
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: so what did you do to fix?
[08:30] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: there is no place for another cable
[08:30] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: All I did was reboot
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: lol? :p
[08:30] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Haha i know, weird
[08:30] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: ahh in that case you'll have to put it in a new enclosure then
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: whats next to driver= now on lshw -C network?
[08:33] <hitsujiTMO> hopkins83: install    libcairo2-dev libjpeg8-dev libpango1.0-dev libgif-dev
[08:33] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, the client has been closed (I don't know how)
[08:33] <dhruvasagar> anybody tried the ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation
[08:33] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I don't know if you have answered me
[08:33] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: this really suckss
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> !touch | dhruvasagar
[08:34] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: thanks
[08:34] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: sorry. missed your last reply. got it now
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> dhruvasagar: np :p
[08:34] <hopkins83> hitsujiTMO: SWEET!! how'd you find that out? :)
[08:35] <hopkins83> thanks a lot man!
[08:35] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, I've pasted the script
[08:36] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: try adding back in the display envvar http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667394/
[08:36] <hitsujiTMO> hopkins83: https://github.com/LearnBoost/node-canvas/wiki/Installation---Ubuntu
[08:37] <hopkins83> hitsujiTMO :D
[08:37] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: that lobby is pretty quiet :)
[08:38] <hitsujiTMO> hopkins83: unfortunately the main page doesn't tell you the actual libs thats needed. you have to go digging thru the wiki for the info. gotta love node for that
[08:38] <hopkins83> hitsujiTMO: or ubuntu rather
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> dhruvasagar: i know, you have to endure, but many proffessional guys in there who know about tablets and ubuntu
[08:38] <hopkins83> hitsujiTMO: never encountered this stuff on openbsd
[08:38] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667398/
[08:39] <hopkins83> shout out to openbsd for being the cleanest, most secure and most convenient OS i've ever encountered
[08:39] <hopkins83> *KISSSSSSSSSSS*
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.8.0-34-generic firmware=22.1.7.0
[08:39] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Right. Also interesting is that it doesn't show support for ac
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> hopkins83: i mean. the node canvas module require specific libs install. yet doesn't tell you the libs. its a common issue when you're dealing with node modules that have external dependencies
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: thats inside the iwlwifi package i think
[08:40] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: You think?
[08:40] <hopkins83> hitsujiTMO: ah yeah now i understand
[08:40] <hopkins83> good point
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> Jay__: anyway glad you fixxed it, too bad you dont know what did the trick :p
[08:41] <Jay__> lotuspsychje: Haha yeah. Thanks for the help man, I appreciate it
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Jay__
[08:44] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: ok
[08:46] <Garo__> Hello. I'm trying to launch an offical Ubuntu HVM AMI (ami-19684570: 12.04 LTS, precise, hvm, amd64) into a C3.large instance into EC2, but the instance doesn't answer to ping and the EC2 console shows that the Status Checks can't pass the Initializing phase. So is the Ubuntu AMI broken somehow?
[08:50] <negev> hi, is there a list of hardware somewhere that ubuntu fully supports?  i'm particularly interested in modern laptops, any recommendations appreciated
[08:50] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've tried
[08:51] <cristian_c> stdin: is not a tty
[08:51] <cristian_c> No protocol specified
[08:51] <cristian_c> No protocol specified
[08:51] <FloodBot1> cristian_c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <cristian_c> three lines
[08:51] <cristian_c> and Failed to connect to X Server.
[08:57] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: try adding various exports from the envvars file until you get the right mix. if you find you need ones that contain PIDs then you're gonna run into a lot of trouble
[08:58] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, then , envvars file must be there in my home?
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: the envars is just a list your your existing env vars. Obviously the the script you are calling is expecting some to exist...
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: can you pastebin the contents of /usr/local/sbin/setupTouchpad.sh     we'll see if we can findout what it's expecting
[09:04] <here> xrlk: git revert even!
[09:07] <maurizio> ciao a tutti e buon anno
[09:08] <ageek786> O.o
[09:08] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, synclient HorizTwoFingerScroll=1
[09:08] <ageek786> hello
[09:08] <maurizio> ma come si  usa  questo programma????????
[09:08] <ageek786> english ?
[09:09] <Phuzzy> need some assistance with a modified installation disk thats acting wierd... am i in the right place?
[09:09] <adminewb1> kernel module building, someone? does it require kernel source or only header packages?
[09:10] <maurizio> help me
[09:11] <cristian_c> !italian | maurizio
[09:12] <maurizio> grazieeee  e buon anno
[09:14] <adminewb1> in consulting here https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt it's still not self evident to me whether kernel source packages are necessary to get all the configuration to build modules; a make from dkms gives errors leaving ambiguity as to what's missing
[09:23] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: seems it may need XAUTHORITY too
[09:23] <cristian_c> ok
[09:24] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, how can I apply the changes, exactly? :)
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: add another export in the script for the XAUTHORITY value from envvars ... same as with DISPLAY
[09:25] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, in the suspend script or in the .sh script?
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: suspend script
[09:26] <cristian_c> ok
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: you may also need to make the sleep value longer, depending on how long it takes for your xserver to come up
[09:26] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, tipically?
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: well xorg takes different times to load up depending on drivers, cpu speed, etc. so if yours is talking longer the person whos guide you're going from then you may need to add a few more seconds on
[09:29] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[09:30]  * hellyeah ubuntu
[09:30]  * hellyeah ubuntu ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[09:30] <cristian_c> lol
[09:31] <hellyeah> system is frozen
[09:31] <hellyeah> i have to close my machine each time
[09:31] <hellyeah> sometime i see screen is shaking
[09:31] <hellyeah> sometimes i drops me to ssell instead of directing me to login screen
[09:32] <hellyeah> dude ubuntu acts weird
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> hellyeah: what do the logs say?
[09:33] <hellyeah> which logs?
[09:34] <Mr_Quist> /etc/syslog
[09:34] <Mr_Quist> lol
[09:34] <hellyeah> let me check
[09:34] <Mr_Quist> /var/log/syslog
[09:34] <Mr_Quist> sorry i just woke up
[09:35] <apb1963> I'm running 12.04.03 32bit, and have a second disk mounted.  I'm downloading 64 bit 12.04 and want to install to the second - external - mounted disk.   Any comments, advice, gotchas, caveats, warnings, etc.  I should know about before I try to do this?
[09:35] <Mr_Quist> also checkout kern.log
[09:35] <hellyeah> no syslog folder here
[09:35] <Mr_Quist> hellyeah, its not a folder
[09:35] <Mr_Quist> tail -f /var/log/syslog
[09:36] <Mr_Quist> tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[09:36] <Mr_Quist> apb1963, the only thing i can think of is your bootloader
[09:36] <Mr_Quist> make sure that ubuntu isn't thinking the external is always connected and thus edits your bootloader to show both ubuntu's
[09:38] <Mr_Quist> hmx
[09:38] <apb1963> actually... now that you mention it... part of the reason I'm doing this is because I think my first disk is failing.  And so I suppose I'll be swapping drives around to make the 64 bit internal and tossing the current drive.
[09:40] <apb1963> But I'm not sure you understand what I'm thinking... and my thinking may be silly....  My intent is to install to the mounted drive.... so that I don't have to shutdown the machine.... not sure there's a benefit.... other than being able to continue working while it's installing.
[09:41] <apb1963> So really the question is centered around whether it's possible to do that or not.  I doubt it's setup to do that.
[09:41] <Phuzzy> apb1963: virtualbox, mount second drive as a raw (using the tools virtualbox provides), and boot your disk up. when it asks if you want to install a bootloader, say no
[09:42] <Phuzzy> after install, unmount the raw (again with the tool) and then run update-grub or what not on your main drive
[09:42] <apb1963> Phuzzy: I looked at virtualbox once and it made my head hurt... so unless there's something pre-packaged you're thinking of, that I can just download and go?
[09:44] <Phuzzy> eh the only other way i know of installing a distro from inside another distro is to use debootstrap... and if Virtualbox makes your hear hurt, debootstrapping a new isntall will most likely cause spontaneous combustion :)
[09:45] <apb1963> ok, maybe the idea wasn't so hot.  I guess I'll just do it the normal way.... burn a CD and reboot... should be able to install on the external drive right?
[09:46] <Mr_Quist> apb1963, just disconnect your usual harddrive when installing
[09:46] <Phuzzy> yea... but i would really recommend you unplug your main drive if at all possible...
[09:46] <Mr_Quist> ubuntu will think the external drive is the only one
[09:46] <Phuzzy> or if your intention is to swap em anyway... do that first, then reinstall
[09:47] <apb1963> yeah... it's starting to look like that's the way to go
[09:47] <trijntje> apb1963: for the record, I've installed on an external drive loads of times, never a problem. Just make sure you pick the right one, and double check to make sure you install grub on the external drive as well
[09:49] <apb1963> trijntje: Thank you for that.  I was hoping someone would say that.
[09:50] <apb1963> trijntje: and there's no reason I can't move the external to the internal position after I've confirmed it all works right?
[09:52] <apb1963> trijntje: Umm... you mean without having to disconnect the main/internal drive right?
[09:53] <trijntje> apb1963: Yeah, but if you are gonna switch them anyway, its safer to do the switch first, and then install. That way, there is 0% chance of messing up your existing system
[09:53] <rajrajraj> can i use a mobile broadband network as wifi hotspot, if yes then how?
[09:53] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: also DO NOT install it as UEFI. just mbr. Installing as UEFI will just bring you pain and sorrow unless you store the /boot on the internal drive
[09:54] <trijntje> !ics
[09:54] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: good to know...  not a problem for as I'm using an ancient machine w/out UEFI
[09:55] <apb1963> s/for//
[09:57] <apb1963> I'm just debating if I should kick it off now and then go to bed or do it in the morning and kill my morning :/
[09:58] <apb1963> Anyway, thanks for the advice everybody :)
[09:59] <here> apb1963: https://xkcd.com/456/
[09:59] <apb1963> here: What's that?
[09:59] <here> apb: wrong one even, but close enough
[10:00] <apb1963> ???????
[10:00] <here> apb: its a link.  to a comic.
[10:00] <apb1963> oh ok
[10:01]  * here ?
[10:01] <apb1963> bedtime for bonzo
[10:01]  * apb1963 waves g'night
[10:01] <here> feliz 31st
[10:05] <Mr_Quist> feliz navidad
[10:13] <rajrajraj> i am using 12.10 and trying to create ad-hoc network, but the other laptop(windows 7) is unable to connect to mine(ubuntu 12.10)
[10:13] <rajrajraj> ubottu: i have used the link you gave
[10:13] <rajrajraj> ubottu: cool
[10:14] <leo_> join
[10:14] <leo_> kristina
[10:15] <rajrajraj> now  i can,
[10:15] <rajrajraj> thanks for the link
[10:15] <rajrajraj> bye
[10:16] <apb1963> bah.  The image is either 8 or 42MB too big for my 700MB CD
[10:16] <apb1963> Now I remember why I wanted to install straight to disk w/out rebooting :/
[10:23] <Phuzzy> apb1963: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without_CD
[10:24] <Phuzzy> that the debootstrap i was talking about
[10:24] <Phuzzy> ...if you feel up for a challenge :)
[10:28] <apb1963> Phuzzy: Nice!
[10:29] <apb1963> Phuzzy: now that's what I'm talkin' about!
[10:29] <apb1963> easy peasy
[10:29] <apb1963> My only question is in regard to "NOTE: if you want to install a newer release than your current system, you normally need to install the backported debootstrap version, "
[10:29] <apb1963> Since I'm running 32 bit and want to install 64 bit... does that count as a "newer release" ?
[10:30] <apb1963> In other words... do I need a backported version?
[10:30] <apb1963> I think I should wait until morning when I can think straight and maybe the question won't need to be asked hopefully :)
[10:31] <Phuzzy> hmm... what i would do there is get the i386 version running, enable multiarch and then install the amd64 kernel and whathaveyou
[10:31] <llutz> apb1963: no its just a different arch (--arch=AMD64) but not a release
[10:31] <apb1963> urp
[10:32] <Phuzzy> ... not 100% sure you can do multiarch from i386?
[10:32] <apb1963> ok now we're talkin' greek again
[10:32] <llutz> Phuzzy: you can't, but debootstrap can change arch
[10:32] <apb1963> so you're saying add that parameter when I execute debootstrap?
[10:33] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[10:33] <llutz> apb1963: yes, sudo  debootstrap --arch=amd64 ......
[10:33] <llutz> apb1963: i't suggest you read a bit about debootstrap and it's options
[10:34] <ikonia> I'd suggest not using it
[10:34] <apb1963> llutz: well the install instructions Phuzzy  provided look pretty straightforward.... other than the extra option you mention.
[10:34] <Phuzzy> yea like i said before... its tricky. be prepared for some troubleshooting
[10:35] <llutz> apb1963: yes but that will install 32bit if you start it from a 32bit system. didn't you say you want to go with 64bit?
[10:35] <ikonia> why not just use a CD / USB setup ?
[10:36] <apb1963> Phuzzy: ok... I'm confused.... if I use the extra option you mention...  won't that install 64 bit?  or am I still missing something?
[10:36] <apb1963> oops... ^meant for llutz
[10:36] <ikonia> apb1963: why are you looking at debootstrap ?
[10:36] <ikonia> what's wrong with the normal install methods ?
[10:36] <hitsujiTMO> a;b
[10:36] <llutz> apb1963: yes, the arch-option will do that
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: use mini.iso
[10:37] <apb1963> ikonia: I have a 700MB CD.  The ISO is 742MB
[10:37] <Phuzzy> llutz: yea was wondering about that... once you have your target set up and have run debootstrap, you would generally need to chroot into it and configure any packages left over... and of course do things like set up fstab, hostname etc. i dont think you can chroot into a amd64 root from a i386 system
[10:37] <ikonia> apb1963: buy a dvd
[10:37] <ikonia> apb1963: use a usb
[10:37] <ikonia> apb1963: use the mini install cd
[10:37] <ikonia> apb1963: any of these options would be more sane than pushing debootstrap
[10:38] <kongthap> i'm using 13.04 almost everytime booting my system, the system says to press F to fix the disk, and says problem about mounting /tmp, i had ran fsck -ycf using startup disk for several times but i still got that message, what can i do???
[10:38] <ikonia> kongthap: where is /tmp mounted from ?
[10:39] <kongthap> ikonia, i don't know much what you meant, i have serveral partition but my / is dev/sda5
[10:39] <ikonia> kongthap: can you please pastebin your /etc/fstab file
[10:39] <Phuzzy> kongthap: boot into recovery mode, and go look at your fstab. see if it has an entry for /tmp and tellus what it is
[10:39] <hitsujiTMO> kongthap: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab
[10:40] <Phuzzy> fstab = /etc/fstab
[10:40] <kongthap> ikonia, sure
[10:40] <Phuzzy> apb1963: what image is that and how are you trying to burn it?
[10:41] <apb1963> Phuzzy: 64 bit desktop ...... using k3b or brasero
[10:42] <kongthap> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667820/
[10:42] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[10:43] <apb1963> saucy?
[10:43] <gordonjcp> mmm sauce
[10:43] <ikonia> kongthap: ok, nothing about /tmp in there
[10:43] <ikonia> kongthap: can you confirm that error message clearly please.
[10:43] <Phuzzy> apb1963: ok 2 options :)
[10:44] <Phuzzy> 1.) use the mini iso... that will be the simplest option to you, but will involve the most bandwidth as it will fetch EVERYTHING from the repo's
[10:44] <ikonia> Phuzzy: it should be around 700mb or less thought, which is less than downloading the cd
[10:44] <Phuzzy> 2.) have a look here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[10:45] <apb1963> CD took less than 10 minutes to download.... maybe even significantly less
[10:45] <Phuzzy> actually no.. scratch that
[10:45] <kongthap> ikonia, i will try to photo my screen, please wait
[10:45] <Phuzzy> you would need the alternate disk, which involves download more stuff
[10:45] <ikonia> kongthap: no don't photo
[10:45] <ikonia> kongthap: just take a note of the exact error message please
[10:46] <Phuzzy> so... rather... option 2 would be a bootable usb
[10:46] <apb1963> don't have an extra usb stick or I'd have gone with that from the start
[10:47] <kongthap> ikonia, please wait i must restart the system
[10:47] <apb1963> so....  the fact that it's saucy doesn't matter?
[10:47] <ikonia> apb1963: I suggest you invest in a DVD - rather than making such a complex setup
[10:47] <ikonia> apb1963: or use the mini.iso
[10:48] <apb1963> i have no problem using the mini... provided I understand what I'm getting...  because saucy isn't precise... right?
[10:48] <ikonia> apb1963: it's not precise no
[10:48] <ikonia> apb1963: you can use whatever release you want though
[10:48] <Phuzzy> apb1963: correct... but s/saucy/precise/ in that urrl and you will get th everrsion you want
[10:48] <apb1963> ok excellent
[10:49] <apb1963> 30 seconds left
[10:50] <apb1963> and now the burn
[10:51] <trijntje> who can help me install ndiswrapper on ubuntu 13.10, I've not been able to get my wireless to work since upgrading from 13.04
[10:51] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: for precise:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[10:52] <Phuzzy> trijntje: what wireless adapter do you use?
[10:53] <apb1963> actually... before I go any further.. let me ask this...  if I were to use deboot.... and just install 32 bit... and reboot there so as not to have to worry about chrooting problems...  how hard is it to get to 64 bit once I've booted the new install?
[10:53] <vmusr> hmmm is it normal to have average load of 1 on a 6 core system, or something is leaking??
[10:53] <trijntje> Phuzzy: Linksys AE1200 802.11bgn Wireless Adapter [Broadcom BCM43235]
[10:53] <kongthap> ikonia, i didn't get errors this time :(
[10:54] <kongthap> ikonia, usually the /tmp will be mounted in fstab or not ???, mine isn't written in fstab
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | trijntje
[10:55] <ikonia> kongthap: then it's not invidivually mounted
[10:55] <apb1963> omg another hour just went by.... I need sleep.  Thanks again guys....  I'll pick up again in the morning I guess.  Or after new years :)  Happy New Year all!
[10:55] <trijntje> lotuspsychje: that won't work, I need to use ndiswrapper, but somehow the install fails on 13.10: http://pastebin.com/Y2X987Ln
[10:55] <kongthap> ikonia, is there anything i should do for now???
[10:56] <ikonia> kongthap: nope
[10:56] <thom_r> I'm ready for 14.04 to be released
[10:57] <kongthap> ikonia, i have several partitions, they are xp and win-7 too, is it ok to mount all partitions in fstab???
[10:57] <ikonia> kongthap: if you want
[10:58] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: from your kernel version it looks like your upgrade failed to complete correctly
[10:58] <Phuzzy> kongthap: what was the last thing you did to your system before this started happening?
[10:58] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: it does? how can you tell?
[10:59] <kongthap> ikonia, another question please, at startup the system will always check for disk errors, it check for entire disk, or just system partition, or all partition which static mount in fstab ???
[10:59] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: 13.10 uses kernel 3.11. you're using kernel 3.8 which is for 13.04
[10:59] <ikonia> kongthap: any that have a "1" next to them in the fsck option of fstab
[11:00] <Phuzzy> trijntje: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and then try again
[11:00] <kongthap> Phuzzy, i rarely do things to my system, i suspect the error happens when i switch from windows partition, but not so sure because sometime i use ubuntu only i still get errors
[11:01] <Guest69531> Hello how's it going? I am wondering if it is possible to remove the trash bin on the desktop on Ubuntu 13.10. I don't see a point to having it there because it is on the unity launch bar.
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: which explains why ndis install is failing: ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic is not supported
[11:01] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO, Phuzzy I've ran apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade and checked update-manager, all say there are no updates available
[11:02] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: whats output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:02] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:02] <Phuzzy> kongthap: try this: boot into recovery or whatever it is that you use to edit your /etc/fstab. then add the following to the end of it: none /tmp tmpfs defaults,size=424m 0 0
[11:03] <kongthap> ikonia, in my case only the / is auto fsck at startup right ???  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667902/
[11:03] <Phuzzy> you can edit the 424m to whatever you want, just dont make it more than like 1/4 of you ram
[11:04] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image
[11:04] <kongthap> Phuzzy, would you mind show me the modification of fstab???, i really need your help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6667902/
[11:05] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/VhhzWKBZ
[11:06] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: install linux-image-generic
[11:07] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: that should get you the 13.10 kernel + headers and hopefully ndis will install then
[11:07] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: cool, thanks. Will I need to reboot for the changes to take effect?
[11:08] <insertcoffee> kongthap:$ mount | grep /tmp
[11:08] <Phuzzy> kongthap: http://pastebin.com/EXG0T7CY
[11:09] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: actually sorry, you may need to install linux-headers-generic aswell. but yeah a restart would be good
[11:09] <insertcoffee> kongthap: If you have a fair amount of RAM I would suggest mounting /tmp there by adding this line to /etc/fstab
[11:09] <insertcoffee> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,mode=1777 0 0
[11:09] <kongthap> Phuzzy, thanks
[11:09] <insertcoffee> this is obviously not a fix, you may need to check the current /tmp mount point for filesystem errors
[11:10] <Phuzzy> kongthap: what insertcoffee said...
[11:10] <Phuzzy> but this might help get your system booted again
[11:10] <kongthap> Phuzzy, i didn't understand what he said
[11:11] <Phuzzy> kongthap: this is duct tape... not fix, but something to hold it together until you can figure out whats wrong
[11:12] <kongthap> Phuzzy, without specifying anything about /tmp in fstab, what the system do for default???
[11:12] <Devang> HI
[11:12] <Phuzzy> depends on distro...
[11:12] <llutz> kongthap: /tmp is just a part of / if you don't specify anything else
[11:12] <Phuzzy> might just be a folder on your root fs, might be a auto tmpfs mountpoint...
[11:12] <kongthap> llutz, specifying it is better right?
[11:13] <Devang> I am getting issue related to disk space on ubuntu 12.04 ...df -Th command not showing proper free and used disk space of partition.
[11:13] <llutz> kongthap: why?
[11:14] <llutz> kongthap: on most systems there is nothing bad with having /tmp just on /.     tmpfs is an option, but has little advantages for most use-cases
[11:14] <kongthap> llutz, i ran into errors at startup about mouting /tmp
[11:14] <Ben64> Devang: whats the problem
[11:15] <kongthap> Phuzzy, so for now i just do what you told, can i just use vim to edit and restart without restarting into recovery mode???
[11:15] <Devang> df -Th showing partition available space full but if I check partition using "du" command then it's pretty space available on partition.
[11:16] <Ben64> Devang: pastebin what you're talking about
[11:16] <Devang> Ok.
[11:17] <rsissi> Hello, Ubuntu seems to come up blackscreen, but I can see a mouse and move it. But, no desktop shows up. I have an nVidia GeForce 700-something with Optomius, and I installed nvidia-current and nvidia-prime. I'm on 13.10
[11:17] <rsissi> I'm currently on irssi from tty1.
[11:18] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: I reinstalled ndiswrapper without any problems after a reboot, thanks a lot! I've been messing around for ages
[11:19] <medsopq236> lut all
[11:20] <Rory> rsissi: Is this after logging in, or before?
[11:20] <rsissi> Rory: After loggin in.
[11:20] <rsissi> logging*
[11:20] <rsissi> Rory: Lightdm comes up fine, surprisingly.
[11:20] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: no problem
[11:21] <Phuzzy> kongthap: correct. edit as root
[11:21] <Phuzzy> also ... please make sure the /tmp folder actually exists :)
[11:21] <Rory> rsissi: Can you try running "sudo chown username: ~/.Xauthority" - replace username with your username and don't miss out the colon :
[11:21] <Devang> @ben64: http://pastebin.com/GUNfjT6j
[11:21] <Rory> rsissi: Then run: sudo chmod a+wt /tmp
[11:23] <Ben64> Devang: could be files you dont have access to, or files that have been deleted but are still opened
[11:23] <rsissi> Rory: Still blackscreen with just a mouse
[11:23] <Devang> I have removed deleted files that are still opened using "lsof | grep DEL" command
[11:23] <rsissi> Rory: I did sudo pkill X to retry as well.
[11:23] <Devang> but still it's showing wrong output.
[11:23] <Rory> rsissi: can you try sudo service lightdm restart
[11:24] <bekks> Devang: No. The output is correct. Unless the file handle is closed, the file is not deleted, but just removed from the ls display.
[11:24] <Devang> So how to remove those files ?
[11:24] <bekks> Devang: Close the application that helds the file open.
[11:24] <rsissi> Rory: No change. Lightdm comes up fine, but after logging in I get a blackscreen with just a mouse.
[11:25] <Devang> @bekks: then ?
[11:25] <Rory> rsissi: Do you have another user to try logging in as?
[11:25] <bekks> Devang: Then the output will be correct.
[11:25] <rsissi> Rory: Only root.
[11:25] <Devang> We have tried that also ...
[11:25] <Rory> rsissi: You may have to remove the nvidia driver; what graphics card do you have? what's the output of "lspci | grep VGA" ?
[11:25] <bekks> Devang: Then you did it wrong, presumably?
[11:26] <bekks> Devang: Which application is holding the files open?
[11:26] <rsissi> Rory: The permissins on the XAuthority file in my home folder are rw, is that correct?
[11:26] <Devang> apache.
[11:26] <bekks> Devang: How did you "close" it?
[11:27] <Rory> rsissi: Yes, but more importantly it needs to be owned by you and not root
[11:27] <rsissi> Rory: How can I copy something from one terminal to another? Or is that possible?
[11:27] <rsissi> Rory: Yes, it is owned by me.
[11:27] <Devang> using lsof command ...
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> rsissi: for gnome-terminal ctrl + shift + c -> ctrl + shift _ v
[11:28] <bekks> Devang: lsof does not close anything.
[11:28] <rsissi> hitsujiTMO: I'm on a command line tty.
[11:28] <Rory> rsissi: you can run /exec "lspci | grep VGA" but test somewere that isn't here
[11:28] <Rory> rsissi: I don't use irssi but I'm pretty sure /exec lets you print the output from a command directly. but dn't test here
[11:28] <rsissi> Rory: It only output ones line, so It should be okay.
[11:28] <Rory> indeed
[11:29] <Rory> I think it's /exec -o lspci | grep VGA
[11:29] <rsissi> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[11:29] <rsissi> Rory: The second one was correct.
[11:29] <bekks> Devang: For "closing" apache, you should stop it, dont you?
[11:29] <rsissi> rsissi: So it appears to not detect the nvidia at all?
[11:29] <hellyeah> you should see what stupid ubuntu dooin now
[11:30] <hellyeah> just a sec
[11:30] <Devang> I have stopped apache now.
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> !language | hellome
[11:30] <Rory> It seems not rsissi, do you have switchable graphics? nvidia/integrated, like on a THinkpad for example?
[11:30] <hellyeah> hellome:
[11:30] <hellyeah> yeah watch your language
[11:30] <rsissi> Rory: I'm logged in on tty7, sitting at the black screen.
[11:30] <Rory> rsissi: OK you should do this: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-*
[11:31] <Rory> rsissi: Then at least you'll get back to a working system
[11:31] <Devang> Still output is same.
[11:31] <rsissi> Rory: Done, but how can I get my card to work then?
[11:31] <pikaren> what are mint's advantages over ubuntu?
[11:31] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, export XAUTHORITY=:0
[11:32] <cristian_c> ?
[11:32] <Devang> @bekks: any idea ?
[11:32] <rsissi> pikaren: None.
[11:32] <cfhowlett> pikaren, ask mint - this is ubuntu support not mint support
[11:32] <samiralajaad> are you all retarded or something?
[11:32] <bekks> Devang: The output cannot be the same.
[11:32] <bekks> Devang: Pastebin the output in question please.
[11:32] <Rory> !attitude | samiralajaad
[11:32] <hellyeah> my screen is shaking itself dude wtf !
[11:32] <Rory> It seems not rsissi, do you have switchable graphics? nvidia/integrated, like on a THinkpad for example?
[11:32] <rsissi> Rory: I'll be right back. Rebooting.
[11:33] <Devang> Ok...1 min
[11:33] <ObrienDave> !language | hellyeah
[11:33] <samiralajaad> XD
[11:33] <hellyeah> but man
[11:33] <hellyeah> this is stupid
[11:33] <Rory> hellyeah: Can you provide details about the problem? Basically, ask a question which has an answer
[11:33] <hellyeah> my screen is shaking from left to right
[11:33] <cfhowlett> hellyeah, no excuse for bad bahavior
[11:33] <hellyeah> and right to left
[11:33] <hellyeah> wait a sec
[11:34] <ObrienDave> hellyeah turn off any screensavers for now
[11:34] <pikaren> what are ubuntu's advantage over mint?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: lol
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> !mint | pikaren
[11:34] <Rory> !mint | pikaren
[11:34] <Rory> !ot | Mikaela
[11:34] <Devang> @bekks: http://pastebin.com/5xcL0FPu
[11:34] <hellyeah> my screen shakes itself like an ass
[11:34] <pikaren> but im asking ubuntu's advantages
[11:35] <ikonia> hellyeah: tone it down - you will not be warned again
[11:35] <bekks> Devang: Please dont use that @whatever. This is neither Twitter nor Facebook. Just write my name and and : to hilight me.
[11:35] <ikonia> pikaren: it's personal preference, see what you like/dislike about both
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | pikaren
[11:35] <pikaren> is the answer also none?
[11:35] <hellyeah> ikonia:
[11:35] <Rory> pikaren: OK but this is the support channel, you'd do better to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <hellyeah> i am serious dude
[11:35] <ikonia> hellyeah: yeah, I'm serious too
[11:35] <Devang> OK
[11:35] <hellyeah> but my english is not really good
[11:35] <cfhowlett> pikaren, no you were asking MINT'S advantages and you've been told that's offtopic here.  A little respect for the rules goes a long way
[11:35] <bekks> Devang: I dont see any lsof output there.
[11:35] <hellyeah> i try to make it understandable
[11:35] <Rory> hellyeah: If you reboot your PC, does the screenstart shaking immediately, or does it only happen once you boot into Ubuntu?
[11:35] <ikonia> hellyeah: it seems just fine - so lets stop messing around, you won't be warned again.
[11:35] <hellyeah> no
[11:35]  * cfhowlett votes with ikonia
[11:35] <hellyeah> it happens really lots of times
[11:36] <Devang> Because right now there is no process using that partiton ..
[11:36] <bekks> Devang: So everything is fine.
[11:36] <Guest69531> I would also like to know Ubuntu's advantages over windows
[11:36] <Ben64> Devang: how did the partition grow 2GB?
[11:36] <Rory> hellyeah: When did it start happening?
[11:36] <ikonia> Guest69531: see which you like and make your own opinions
[11:36] <cfhowlett> Guest69531, install it, test it and see for yourself
[11:36] <hellyeah> when i type something on gedit or type in terminal
[11:36] <hellyeah> it hhappens anytime
[11:36] <Rory> Guest69531: You should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, as that's quite a subjective question and this is a support channel
[11:36] <Devang> That's my question and about 28GB space getting used ?
[11:37] <Devang> We have tried many things but not able to resolve this issue.
[11:37] <Rory> hellyeah: Could you describe in more detail? What do you mean by shaking?
[11:37] <bekks> Devang: So look into that folder to see which logs are affected?
[11:37] <Ben64> Devang: i mean the size of the actual partition... was 30GB now 32GB
[11:37] <rissi> Rory: Back
[11:37] <Devang> 32GB
[11:38] <Rory> rissi: OK did you remove the nvidia packages? Can you sign in now?
[11:38] <Devang> I have checked folders inside that partition also...Hardly total 8 GB space is getting used.
[11:38] <hellyeah> Rory:
[11:38] <hellyeah> can i p.m. you
[11:38] <hellyeah> i möay be banned here
[11:38] <rissi> Rory, Yes, and yes.
[11:38] <bekks> Devang: 30G of 32G is used.
[11:38] <rissi> Rory, Now I have to figure out why my card isn't being detected at all.
[11:38] <Rory> hellyeah: No, stay in the channel. Just don't do anything that would cause you to be banned
[11:38] <Rory> rissi: Do you have switchable graphics?
[11:39] <hellyeah> Rory:  okey but my english is not good
[11:39] <rissi> Rory, Switchable? No, they are supposed to be integrated together with optomus.
[11:39] <hellyeah> lemme try
[11:39] <Guest69531> Rory, awesome I am glad I found the support channel. I am on Linux Ubuntu 13.10 and I cant get the screen brightness to change with the slider, or with my keyboard keys but they work fine in Windows. Have any ideas?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> hellyeah, if your english is good enough to use profanity, then you're fluent
[11:39] <hellyeah> Rory:  think about sahking something from left to right or right to left
[11:39] <Rory> rissi: Is it a laptop? Can you give me the make and model?
[11:39] <hellyeah> can you imagine this
[11:40] <Rory> hellyeah: Only sometimes though? Can you make it do it by doing a specific thing?
[11:40] <rissi> Rory, Yes, Toshiba Satilite P-50.
[11:40] <hellyeah> wait a sec
[11:40] <rissi> Rory, Would you like a link to the pdf listing all the hardware specs?
[11:41] <Rory> rissi: Take a look at this article, might be relevant for you http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html
[11:43] <Rory> rissi: Basically, you can configure your BIOS to use nvidia all the time, or you can use the software in that linked article and see if you can get switching to work on your hardware
[11:43] <Rory> rissi: I personally just set my BIOS to use dedicated graphics all the time, for simplicity, on my Thinkpad
[11:43] <Walex> I think I saw a detailed Ubuntu Wiki page on Optimus, but maybe I misremember
[11:43] <rissi> Rory, I don't have an option in the BIOS
[11:43] <hellyeah> Rory:  screen woggle itself doe make any sense to you?
[11:44] <Rory> hellyeah: I'm asking you: does it do it randomly, or are there specific actions that cause it to shake?
[11:44] <hellyeah> like left to right and right to left
[11:45] <Rory> Yes I understand that
[11:45] <Rory> Can someone kick him he's obviously just a troll
[11:45] <rissi> Walex, I'll google around.
[11:46] <Ben64> there is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[11:48] <anuvrat> hi
[11:49] <rissi> Rory, Rebooting now
[11:50] <dfrkp> Hi! After upgrading 13.04->13.10 my emacs meta key is no longer mapped to Alt but to the windows key. What can I do to fix that?
[11:52] <hitsujiTMO> dfrkp: alt takes focus from the terminal in unity. you if you're using unity you may wish to stick with it
[11:54] <dfrkp> hitsujiTMO: You're right I'm using unity. However I have never seen any use for this Alt opens a terminal or command shell thing. So I can disable that.
[11:55] <dfrkp> hitsujiTMO: Just disabled it. However I still get "A-x" in emacs when pressing Alt-x, but I would expect "M-x" which I only get via Windows-x
[11:56] <hitsujiTMO> dfrkp: unfortunately emacs is not something i use so unsure of changing those key bindings. if it's anything like dwm then you'd have to mody and recompile the source
[11:58] <gvo> xmodmap might do what you want.
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> dfrkp: looks like the config might be here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MetaKeyProblems#toc6
[12:00] <dfrkp> hitsujiTMO: that's quite comprehensive! Thank you! I'll work through that.
[12:02] <dfrkp> hitsujiTMO: Thank you! Found the fix on the page!
[12:03] <jeanjar> #ads
[12:05] <philclifford> is gssapi broken in 12.04 ? virtualbox has started refusing to start complaining about missing symbol krb_free_tisket in libkrb5.so.26. Yes I tried re-installing virtualbox.
[12:06] <bekks> Which vbox version?
[12:07] <philclifford> 4.3.6 from oracle, and 4.3.4 and also the ubuntu 4.1 from 12.04 LTS - all same error
[12:07] <PBeck> hi
[12:08] <philclifford> VirtualBox: Error -610 in supR3HardenedMainInitRuntime!VirtualBox: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxRT.so",) failed: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi.so.3: symbol krb5_free_tisket, version HEIMDAL_KRB5_2.0 not defined in file libkrb5.so.26 with link time reference
[12:09] <rissi> Rory, Hey I have an update! lspci gives: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06), but also!: 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)
[12:09] <PBeck> i am looking for a way to use locate in the dash search (its switched on with the dconf-editor) on a encrypted home partition. For this i have generated a local locate db for /home/pbeck (  updatedb -l 0 -o /home/pbeck/.mlocate.db -U /home/pbeck) and  export LOCATE_PATH=~/.mlocate.db in the terminal its working quite well. Unity ignores it - any hints on how unity uses locate?
[12:10] <rissi> Rory, So.. I think my hardware is combining under the hood, as optomius says it should, and Ubuntu is picking up the Hybrid graphics as one card. How can I check how much Vram i have?
[12:14] <nullv4lue> may i have the @ thingy in here
[12:14] <nullv4lue> thank you kindly
[12:14] <nullv4lue> i want a @ infront of my name
[12:14] <nullv4lue> or nick rather
[12:14] <ikonia> nullv4lue: sorry, that's not going to happen
[12:14] <rissi> Rory, or I could mean my card is disabled.
[12:14] <ikonia> nullv4lue: please check the channels topic also
[12:14] <nullv4lue> it will
[12:15] <nullv4lue> hows about a netsplit
[12:15] <nullv4lue> lol
[12:15] <nullv4lue> want one
[12:15] <ikonia> nullv4lue: stop it - you know this is nothing to do with #ubuntu
[12:15] <ikonia> nullv4lue: keep to the channels topic - and there will be no issue
[12:15] <cfhowlett> nullv4lue, strangely unfunny.  would you like a bounce?
[12:15] <ikonia> (please)
[12:15] <rissi> ikonia, Kick?
[12:15]  * nullv4lue bounce and scratches
[12:15] <nullv4lue> hahaa
[12:16] <nullv4lue> awww come on lighten up its new year
[12:16]  * rissi Thinks we have a drunk user ...
[12:17]  * cfhowlett doesn't care if he's drunk ...
[12:17] <ikonia> rissi: that's not really helpful adding more offtopic random scomments
[12:17] <ikonia> guys come on - you can't complain that a guy is being random then make the same sort of comment
[12:17] <rissi> ikonia, Sorry ikonia. It wont ever happen again. I promise.
[12:17] <ikonia> not a problem
[12:17]  * cfhowlett apologizes.  mea culpa
[12:23] <Rafikibob> Hi - hope you can help with a query, i'm pretty stuck. Got xubuntu 13.10. X Windows starts but only as far as a blue background with a mouse, and the x cursor. No icons. i've tried reinstalling xorg-xserver, and xorg.conf is sound...i'm not suer what's broken :) Any clues anyone?
[12:24] <Rafikibob> It was working....
[12:40] <JohnnyL> http://pastie.org/8589563
[12:40] <bekks> JohnnyL: What is that?
[12:42] <JohnnyL> a compile of zynaddsubfx
[12:42] <JohnnyL> via ccmake then build.
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> JohnnyL  start from the beginning, what is that, what are you doing and what is your end goal
[12:44] <JohnnyL> MonkeyDust.. Trying to compile zynaddsubfx a synth for midi. I'm at the very last stage and thats the error i'm getting. All I want to do it to finish the very last step of the compile.
[12:46] <bekks> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19902595/issue-with-cmake-project-building
[12:49] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: have you got fltk dev packages installed?
[12:51] <JohnnyL> yes. i have installed one. not sure if i need more than that though.
[12:51] <m1dnight_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/397589/enable-logging-to-service # Could one of you guys help me with this question perhaps? :)
[12:52] <gordonjcp> m1dnight_: what's the question?
[12:52] <m1dnight_> I want to add the --log option to my init.d file for transmission
[12:52] <m1dnight_> so the deamon service writes to a log file
[12:52] <m1dnight_> but I can't get it to work
[12:53] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: what's it failing on?
[12:53] <m1dnight_> It's been on askubuntu for a while now but I haven't had an answer yet
[12:54] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I have a problem when using my terminal emulator. I use it with transparent background. The background is transparent, but displays my background desktop, and not windows behind emulator. Someone know how to display window behind console, and not background desktop ?
[12:54] <pikaren> is unity legit?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> pikaren, yes.
[12:55] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: also, isn't zynaddsubfx already packaged?
[12:55] <bekks> !info zynaddsubfx
[12:55] <bekks> Yes, it is.
[12:56] <shopperotter> hi
[12:56] <cfhowlett> shopperotter, greetings
[12:56] <shopperotter> i just bought a bluetooth keyboarnt
[12:57] <shopperotter> cause my laptops keyboart has issues
[12:57] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: yeah, that's the most recent zynaddsubfx
[12:57] <shopperotter> ant i am not sure how to connect this keyboart to linux ubuntu
[12:57] <JohnnyL> maybe i have to remove the package?
[12:57] <JohnnyL> i have it installed as a .deb but it's ancient.
[12:57] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: yes, zynaddsubfx is ancient
[12:58] <gordonjcp> it hasn't been developed for about four years
[12:58] <JohnnyL> gordonjcp: what you see in the paste is what it is failing on.
[12:58] <shopperotter> how i connect a bluettoth keyboart to ubuntu?
[12:58] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: I didn't see the paste, and I don't have web access just now
[12:58] <carlito> je m'appelle  carlito
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !fr|carlito,
[13:01] <JohnnyL> --/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfltk.a(Fl_x.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlsym@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
[13:01] <JohnnyL> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[13:01] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: which version of zynaddsubfx is that?
[13:01] <shopperotter> can someone tell me how to isntall a bluetooth keyboart
[13:01] <gordonjcp> shopperotter: pair it, start typing
[13:01] <JohnnyL> gordonjcp: thats the very latest.
[13:02] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: that's what's packaged
[13:02] <gordonjcp> 2.4.3
[13:02] <JohnnyL> yes
[13:02] <JohnnyL> oh really?
[13:02] <gordonjcp> so, why bother building from source?
[13:02] <JohnnyL> the help is dated 2009.
[13:02] <gordonjcp> yes, it hasn't been worked on since 2009
[13:02] <JohnnyL> the source that i have is from 2013.
[13:02] <shopperotter> gorton, ''pair it''?
[13:02] <shopperotter> I got it working
[13:02] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: odd
[13:03] <gordonjcp> JohnnyL: maybe it's been taken over by someone else?
[13:03] <shopperotter> but it toes not connect to laptop
[13:03] <cfhowlett> JohnnyL, sounds like the package manager ... doesn't
[13:04] <JohnnyL> i have no idea.
[13:04] <ritesh> hello folks! I'm affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1201038. I see that it is set to expired. Is it good form to re-open the bug or should i create a new report?
[13:04] <JohnnyL> the pacaked one doesn't make a sound.
[13:05] <ritesh> issue is that this is a kernel oops, and the system is unable to write to disk. it would be next to impossible to produce logs as the appear at the time of the crash
[13:06] <ritesh> oops nevermind, i just saw the comments on that :D
[13:07] <shopperotter> i neet a bluetooth tongle maybe?
[13:07] <shopperotter> the keyboart came without a bluetooth tongle
[13:07] <cfhowlett> shopperotter, so if your computer also lacks bluetooth ...  no way to connect
[13:07] <chemist^> hello everyone... i've got a problem setting up xchat to work with tor proxy... does anyone have any experience setting things up? i followed online threads but it gives me this error when i'm trying to connect to the server: Proxy failed to connect to host (error 5).
[13:08] <santhosh_> hai how to conncet same session two users on vnc server
[13:08] <Cojak> still openoffice , can be work on  or to be replaced by liberoffice
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Cojak, ???
[13:08] <ObrienDave> chemist^, you need to log on using SASL
[13:08] <shopperotter> i neet to buy a bluetooth tongle??
[13:08] <chemist^> ObrienDave i've been trying to do that
[13:09] <shopperotter> how come this bluetooth keyboart toes not inclute one?
[13:09] <shopperotter> my laptop is pretty OK
[13:09] <cfhowlett> shopperotter, why ask us?
[13:09] <shopperotter> i tont know
[13:09] <ObrienDave> chemist^, come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:09] <shopperotter> you cannot help a linux user set up bluetooth?
[13:09] <shopperotter> I have bluetooth manager installet, it toes not recognize the keyboart (also on)
[13:10] <cfhowlett> shopperotter, dude.  YOU said your computer has no bluetooth connection.  no dongle, no connect.  buy a dongle!
[13:10] <santhosh_> hai how to conncet same session two users on vnc server
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> shopperotter  and does your laptap have a bluetooth adapter?
[13:10] <pallatore> ciao a tutti
[13:10] <pallatore> !list
[13:10] <shopperotter> atapter = tongle? no
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> shopperotter  your laptop needs something to "see" the bluetooth keyboard
[13:11] <Cojak> cfhowlett, i mean libreoffice
[13:11] <shopperotter> never uset bluetooth before
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Cojak, restate your question
[13:12] <Phuzzy> http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu/pool/ <- does anyone else get a 403 forbidden there?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Phuzzy, yep
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> shopperotter  ok, then make sure you first have a bluetooth dongle, adapter, whatever you call it... in your laptop
[13:13] <Phuzzy> cfhowlett: thnx
[13:13] <cfhowlett> Phuzzy, then again, I AM in China, so my results may no be representative
[13:13] <JohnnyL> gordonjcp: how can you tell what version the packaged one is?
[13:18] <gordonjcp> !aptitude zynaddsubfx
[13:19] <PBeck> i am looking for a way to use locate in the dash search (its switched on with the dconf-editor) on a encrypted home partition. For this i have generated a local locate db for /home/pbeck (  updatedb -l 0 -o /home/pbeck/.mlocate.db -U /home/pbeck) and  export LOCATE_PATH=~/.mlocate.db in the terminal its working quite well. Unity ignores it - any hints on how unity uses locate?
[13:19] <bekks> gordonjcp: !info zynaddsubfx
[13:19] <gordonjcp> bekks: ah, yeah, lack of coffee
[13:19] <JohnnyL> !info zynaddsubfx
[13:20] <JohnnyL> how can i tell without irc?
[13:20] <bekks> JohnnyL: apt-cache policy zynaddsubfx
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:23] <ObrienDave> happy new year BluesKaj
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Happy New Year, ObrienDave ;0
[13:24] <BluesKaj> oops , :)
[13:24] <ObrienDave> lol no biggie
[13:25] <BluesKaj> 3weeks and I'm still not used to this KB
[13:25] <JohnnyL> bekks, hm ok thanks!
[13:38] <pikaren> happy new year? where do u guy live? some island on the pacific?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> pikaren, newsflash: the globe has 24 time zones and ubuntu is used in all of them.
[13:41] <pikaren> i thought most of you are from americas or europe
[13:41] <sp4nky> hi, i would like to use an old version of gdb but i couldnt find gdb=7.4-2012.02-0ubuntu2 using apt-get
[13:42] <sp4nky> any solution to downgrade my current gdb version
[13:42] <bekks> sp4nky: Why do you need an older version?
[13:43] <sp4nky> bekks File "~/peda/peda.py", line 23, in <module>
[13:43] <sp4nky> Exception: Python3 is not supported at the moment, downgrade you GDB or recompile with Python2!
[13:43] <nerdtron> hi all
[13:44] <cfhowlett> nerdtron, greetings
[13:44] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, 35 occupied time zones ;P
[13:44] <nerdtron> just came here to say happy new year :D
[13:46] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, dammit OB!  you're right, again!
[13:46] <sp4nky> bekks, nvm i solve it :p i used this one gdb_7.4-2012.02-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[13:48] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, I'm a bubble burster, that's what I do best :))
[13:52] <DarkAceLaptop> !test macros
[13:54] <rissi> !macros
[13:54] <Pici> Can we help you?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> DarkAceZ, what's the issue?
[13:55] <rissi> Does the texlive in the ubuntu repos come with a tlmgr that works>
[13:57] <rissi> Also, what's the offical policy on ppas? Is it recommended to use an official sources ppa rather than the stock ubuntu package if the ubuntu package is commonly out of date?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[13:58] <cfhowlett> *use at your own risk* would seem to be the operative term
[13:58] <rissi> cfhowlett, Thank you. I commonly use them for WINE and gnome3
[13:59] <nerdtron> as long as they are the ppa from the official website of wine and gnome 3
[13:59] <cfhowlett> rissi, ^^^^ this
[14:06] <rissi> nerdtron, Yup, I always verify.
[14:22] <uptownben> Hey all!
[14:23] <uptownben> Anyone here successfully use ap-hotpsot on their ubuntu box?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> uptownben, greetings
[14:25] <nerdtron> uptownben: you mean share your internet via wifi?
[14:25] <uptownben> Got this weird issue where it starts up, and I see the new access point via wifi, and it even asks me for the wpa passphrase when I attempt to connect to it, but always gives me a "bad password" error (yes,I confirmed that the password I set up is what I used on the client)
[14:25] <uptownben> yeah
[14:25] <uptownben> just want to set up a simple access point
[14:26] <nerdtron> say, you connect to a wifi access point, and then you are going to make an access point so that other devices can connect on you?
[14:26] <OerHeks> !ics
[14:26] <uptownben> seems ap-hotspot script handles all the little details, but clients can get past the "enter wifi passphrase"
[14:27] <nerdtron> uptownben: have you seen this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/323335/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-with-an-ubuntu-laptop-access-point-mode
[14:28] <uptownben> I have like a million how-to sites open here...  didn't see the ICS one though.. checking it now
[14:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:30] <uptownben> Did I mention that I don't have a GUI, command line only
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> uptownben  ubuntu server?
[14:36] <akshaypai> #w]
[14:41] <JohnnyL> I have an M-Audio interface. I'm going to buy a synth. I'd like to hook the synth to the interface and then to the computer and use the computer as a simple audio recorder. How would I go about doing this in Ubuntu?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> JohnnyL, software would likely be through jack ...
[14:42] <JohnnyL> ok
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> JohnnyL  tip: there's also #ubuntustudio
[14:43] <nerdtron> if i'm not mistaken audacity accepts audio input
[14:44] <cfhowlett> nerdtron, indeed it does.
[14:44] <rissi> !ubuntu-studio | JohnnyL
[14:45]  * ObrienDave uses https://launchpad.net/audio-recorder for recording, audacity for editing
[14:45] <rissi> nerdtron, You can feed it other input, but unless it contains binary sound data, nothing will happen. Although, it is a nice way to check if a file contains hidden audio data.
[14:46] <nerdtron> If you think Ubuntu studio is too much for you, you can just install the individual packages that are already installed in ubuntu studio
[14:46] <JohnnyL> here is my windows driver (does jack suffice as the software layer for this?) http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Download/MobilePre-USB-Drivers?retURL=%2Fpkb%2Farticles%2Fdownload%2FMobilePre-USB-Drivers&popup=true
[14:46] <rissi> nerdtron, You can also put PS1 (and maybe other game system) disks into it and it it will play video game music. That's also nice.
[14:47] <cfhowlett> JohnnyL, you're probably better off going to the ubuntustudio forums or asking #opensource musicians.  m-audio is a popular brand and I'm sure someone has already done exactly what you're trying.  In fact, not sure but m-audio MIGHT be plug n play ...
[14:47] <cfhowlett> m-Play that is
[14:47] <MrMonkey31> Happy new year, every1! ***MrMonkey parties
[14:48] <ObrienDave> LOL 17 hours to go ;P
[14:50] <JohnnyL> ObrienDave, cfhowlett thank you very much.
[14:50] <cfhowlett> JohnnyL, best of luck
[14:51] <k-rad> is there a way to make screen output nicer in 12.04 maybe something like a screen effect that looks better in LCD ?
[14:51] <nerdtron> a little more than hour hour and it's 2014 here :)
[14:52] <gordonjcp> k-rad: nicer in what way?
[14:52] <nerdtron> k-rad: what is the native resolution of your LCD?
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> k-rad  nicer?
[14:52] <ObrienDave> JohnnyL, yw
[14:53] <k-rad> yes.  i saw something before i rebooted.  it appeared like a bug but actually my screen looked more like something a long time ago with a really nice costly monitor that was CRT when compiz first came out in seveas repo
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> k-rad  "something a long time ago" is rather vague
[14:54] <cfhowlett> "rather" ...
[14:54] <k-rad> i think hardy heron
[14:54] <k-rad> definitely or before
[14:54] <k-rad> it was something similar to activating compiz
[15:01] <james-> Hey how's it going? I am using Ubuntu 13.10 installed on my Dell N4010 laptop. I am not able to slide the bar for screen brightness or use my F keys to switch the brightness. When I go on WIndows it works fine. Is it possible to fix this?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> k-rad  this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=467219
[15:11] <james-> I would also like to remove "home" "computer" and "trash" from the desktop because Having those on the unity launcher is good enough for me.
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> james-  gnome-tweak-tool can do that, find it in the repos
[15:17] <jefantoniosuarez> ??
[15:18] <james-> MonkeyDust, I installed it, when I click on desktop i see the options to get rid of them but nothing changes
[15:21] <Linna_> Hi, I've just created 10-monitor.conf file and after reboot I have no visual connect anymore. I have two partions so I use the anoter system now. Whats wrong with this xorg setting?
[15:22] <ObrienDave> james-, you might have to relog
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> james-  that's odd... try dconf-editor > org.gnome.nautilus.desktop
[15:25] <james-> MonkeyDust,  ok i'll go install dconf real quick and give it a shot
[15:26] <scotty^> Linna_ - are you trying to use 10 monitors with the open source drivers?  I don't think that's supported yet.
[15:26] <Linna_> I've read that thats the way to add custom display resolution
[15:27] <OsBin> hello how to run playonlinux with root user?
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> OsBin: insecure setups are not supported here
 so where i can ask?
[15:28] <hitsujiTMO> Linna_: most drivers don't like unsupported resolutions. Checks whats available in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> OsBin: ##linux maybe
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> OsBin: why do you want to run it as root?
[15:29] <james-> MonkeyDust,  Ok I installed it. It shows  apps, ca, com, desktop, org and system. I can click on the arrows to open the contents of the folders but there  is nothing for home computer and trash
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> james-  yes: org.gnome.nautilus.desktop
 beq its moded version of ubuntu :)
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Frankenbuntu
[15:32] <Linna_> The resolution which I want is not listed in Xorg.0.log. I can add by xrandr but how can it be permanent?
[15:32] <james-> MonkeyDust, No command 'yes:' found
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> james-  click org, then, gnome, then nautilus, then desktop, find it there
[15:33] <james-> MonkeyDust, ok 1 sec
[15:33] <nerdtron> Linna_: you can add the xrandr command is permanent
[15:33] <rodhash> Guys… does the HP printers work fine on Ubuntu? Like printing and scanning via wireless?
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> Linna_: well if you can set it with xrandr then you could write a bash script which get called by lightdm or when your user logs in
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> james-  i mean the submenus
[15:34] <xangua> !printer | rodhash: you should always check that before buying one
[15:35] <JoeyJoeJo> I want to setup an NTP server and I noticed that there is an ntp package and an openntpd package. Is one better than the other?
[15:35] <scotty^> Linna_ - do you have three video cards in that machine?  There is a small possibility that they might work together  in the upstream 3.13 kernel which has more PRIME work.
[15:36] <james-> MonkeyDust, LOL sorry about that I typed it as a command. Ok I found the folder. There is no check for any of them but they still show on the desktop. Should I try restarting?
[15:36] <Linna_> It shows 3 yes
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> james-  did you find the sebmenu? can you not un/check Trash etc?
[15:37] <james-> MonkeyDust, I found the submenu but they are already unchecked. I can check/ uncheck them
[15:37] <ObrienDave> rodhash, i have a Deskjet 3052a working through HPLIP just fine
[15:38] <hitsujiTMO> JoeyJoeJo: can I ask why you want to set up your own ntp server rather than using one of the thousands of reliable servers out there?
[15:38] <norad> hi this may be a dumb quastion but but have every one att ubuntu vikation at the same time ?
[15:38] <Linna_> VGA-0 disconnected, DVI-0 connected, S-video connected
[15:38] <rodhash> ObrienDave, thanks!! really good to hear!
[15:39] <Linna_> How can I write that script? It should contain this: sudo xrandr --newmode "1600x900_60.00"  118.25  1600 1696 1856 2112  900 903 908 934 -hsync +vsync sudo xrandr --addmode DVI-0 1600x900_60.00
[15:39] <rodhash> According to hplipopensource.com, the printer I wanna buy has FULL support \o/
[15:39] <Hydr0p0nX> will the 13.10 enablement pack upgrade the 12.04 kernel 3.11 by chance ?
[15:39] <rodhash> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_3540_series.html
[15:39] <ObrienDave> rodhash, wireless and ePrint :)
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> james-  next on my mind: unity-tweak-tool (in the repos) or ubuntu-tweak (not in the repos)
[15:41] <james-> MonkeyDust, Ok I will try Unity tweak first
[15:41] <Linna_> I just put this as the first line?:  #!/bin/bash
[15:42] <rodhash> ObrienDave, are you able to scan via wireless as well?
[15:42] <rodhash> I meant, sending the file to the email?
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> Linna_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6669026/ save this to /usr/bin/setup_screen.sh
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> Linna_: don't forget to chmod +x it
[15:44] <tachyons> how to add pkg-config path in a debian package
[15:45] <norad> i havent got a update on ubuntu for 11 days is this normal ?
[15:45] <tachyons> ie where to add export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/pkgconfig
[15:45] <ObrienDave> rodhash, scan to file, yes. have not emailed directly. i just attach the file
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> Linna_: do you have a configfile /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ?
[15:45] <bekks> norad: Its Christmas and New Year - even devs tend to have some holidays :)
[15:46] <norad> bekks ok was a littel worried :)
[15:47] <Linna_> Yes I have
[15:47] <rodhash> ObrienDave, hmm.. so you scan the file directly to the computer? Ok thank you, also I found that the printer I wanna buy is supported (hplip site) .. thanks a lot!
[15:48] <rodhash> thanks all
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> Linna_: actually just save this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6669055/ to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xrandr.conf
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> Linna_: that will hopefully set your preffered resolution on once lightdm loads up
[15:51] <Linna_> Thank you very much. I wish you a Happy New Year
[15:52] <Guest1080> MonkeyDust, I would like to try Ubuntu-tweak, the others wont work. I can deselect them but no changes take place even after a restart. I tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak but it can't find the package.
[15:57] <scotty^> HydrOpOnX - It should according to https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, what is the network manager gui in KDE called please? What is the binary name?
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> Guest1080  (james) http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[15:57] <scotty^> Linna_ - no you don't want that in the first line
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest1080  if none of these tools work (i suggested 3 or 4), then i don't know
[16:01] <scotty^> Hydr0p0nX - It should according to https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[16:04] <uptownben> is there a dnsmasq irc chat?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> looking for a method to prevent blank screen on this lenovo G500 when the HDMI is connected to an external monitor. The external is fine (HDTV) with correct res and audio.
[16:04] <nojustno> Hei
[16:05] <nojustno> Is it possible to tell x11 to not permit a window manager to border a window?
[16:06] <scotty^> Hydr0p0nX - or better still, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[16:07] <malimbar> how would I find the coordinates of a window? (i've done it before, but don't remember how)
[16:07] <BluesKaj> oops wrong room
[16:07] <LucaTM11> BlueKaj Gnome-tweak from the Ubuntu Software Center has options under "Shell" to set what you want to occur when the laptop lid is closed on battery and AC. Install it, set it, and try it out. Should work. "Nothing" and "Interactive" are both options in the drop down menu
[16:08] <BluesKaj> LucaTM11, on kde here , that's why I said "wrong room"
[16:08] <k-rad> what is the easiest network scanner to detect wifi and wired devices on a home network ?
[16:08] <k-rad> to install and use without difficulty on ubuntu
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> k-rad  in a terminal: nm-tool or nmcli
[16:10] <Guest1080> MonkeyDust, I appreciate the attempts, I just don't understand why they don't work, i'm visiting the website you gave me now.
[16:13] <tgunr> I could use some pointers as how to correct this problem in LVM http://polymicro.clarify-it.com/d/grtg4t It appeaser to me that a snapshot has gone astray because /dev/sdb which should have been assigned to the 2nd HDD is unknown? Am I reading this right?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> k-rad: nmap
[16:14] <bekks> Having a list of kernels in grub2, how do I set the default to a specific kernel, not a specific list entry?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> bekks: do you want to stay on the same kernel indefinitely?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> (sp)
[16:20] <bekks> ActionParsnip: No - I just want to ensure the same kernel is booted unless I am choosing another one in the menu manually.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> bekks: hmmm not sure there, could try in #grub
[16:23] <meatherly> Would any one know how I can monitor rhythm box. and let it notify me when a song changes? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm not sure if I need to write this into the source code or I could write my own app to monitor it?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> meatherly: isnt that default?
[16:24] <iceroot> meatherly: a notification will be displayed using the message app from ubuntu/gnome
[16:24] <carole> ett bonjour la dedans !!
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> meatherly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/337314/how-to-hide-remove-rhythmbox-now-playing-pop-up-notification   just tick that box....
[16:25] <carole> ujhkk
[16:25] <meatherly> no I mean send a notification to my app running on the same machine
[16:26] <carole> de quoi ?
[16:26] <iceroot> meatherly: i guess its using dbus for that
[16:26] <meatherly> something like an http request
[16:26] <iceroot> meatherly: to communicate with the message system from ubuntu/gnome so have a look at that
[16:26] <carole> I don't understand !
[16:26] <meatherly> man good stuff guys. never played with that before. I'm going to check that out
[16:27] <iceroot> meatherly: trust me, when you never worked with dbus... there are easier topics to start with
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> meatmanek: like in Conky?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1696521
[16:31] <micros> hello.  how come when i invoke a system(cmd_str) call from a c program, the cd command and referernced shell script are not found?  the cmd_str is in the form "cd /path/; script.sh".  The idea being that if i invoke the script without the cd using absolute path, then the items referenced in the script will not be in the right directory, so the pwd needs to be set first. yes, i get a shell error
[16:31] <micros> saying script.sh not found. any idea? thanks.
[16:32] <iceroot> micros: path not set?
[16:32] <micros> iceroot - i tried to cd to the directory where the script was..
[16:33] <micros> system("cd /path; ./script.sh")  --> sh: 1 script.sh: not found
[16:33] <nerdtron> micros: try "bash script.sh"
[16:33] <nerdtron> maybe your script is not executable yet
[16:34] <micros> its marked +x
[16:34] <micros> i think its more of a pwd issue
[16:34] <Xcytre> chmod?
[16:34] <iceroot> micros: cd /path; ls
[16:34] <micros> iceroot - i t hink that will work
[16:34] <micros> for a test, i did "cd /path; pwd" and it printed the correct
[16:34] <micros> dir
[16:35] <qcjn_> hi ! ubuntu OS on a sata drive connected trought an PCI adapter. Computer boots when using a live usb unetbootin. Can see the file of the sata drive when connected to my hd dockstation on another computer (host Win8 - Guest Mint 14) See it trought Mint. How can i do a check disk for that whole drive from mint, And can i check the integrity of the ubuntu system or boot or ??? from mint ?
[16:36] <Guest93252> Would anyone happen to know where to find the additional drivers folder in ubuntu 13.10?
[16:36] <cordyceps> anybody using a sansa player? I got mtp turned on in player(ClipZip), and can see player in the file mgr. How to I get to it with cli? Installed mtp-tools but I only get output like this: cordyceps@gnubu:~$ mtp-connect -h
[16:36] <cordyceps> Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled.libmtp version: 1.1.6
[16:36] <cordyceps> Device 0 (VID=0781 and PID=74e4) is a SanDisk Sansa Clip Zip.
[16:36] <cordyceps> ignoring libusb_claim_interface() = -6PTP_ERROR_IO: failed to open session, trying again after resetting USB interface
[16:36] <cordyceps> LIBMTP libusb: Attempt to reset device
[16:36] <FloodBot1> cordyceps: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:36] <Guest93252> i want to make sure my reccomended drivers are working.
[16:36] <cordyceps> ignoring libusb_claim_interface() = -6LIBMTP PANIC: failed to open session on second attempt
[16:37] <cordyceps> anybody using a sansa player? I got mtp turned on in player(ClipZip), and can see player in the file mgr. How to I get to it with cli? Installed mtp-tools but I only get output like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6669236
[16:40] <cordyceps> anybody using a sansa player? I got mtp turned on in player(ClipZip), and can see player in the file mgr. How to I get to it with cli? Installed mtp-tools but I only get output like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6669236
[16:41] <BluesKaj> qcjn_, afaik the guest OS can't see the host hdd or it's partiitons
[16:43] <A[D]minS> the new NetworkManager package which comes with 13.10 is the worst ever version
[16:43] <A[D]minS> also for the first time i can assure that 13.10 didn't pass all quality validations! it has many bugs!
[16:44] <A[D]minS> it was a wrong decision when i upgraded to latest version!
[16:44] <Pici> A[D]minS: Do you have a support question?
[16:44] <qcjn_> BluesKaj: well i'm in the guest OS and i can see the files of the OS (HDD) !
[16:44] <Guest93252> im tryinf to install additional drivers in ubuntu 13.10 so i can see what i have for drivers and im getting a huge error. can i paste it here?
[16:44] <Pici> !pastebin | Guest93252
[16:44] <A[D]minS> Pici: how i can get the VPN work with NetworkManager on 13.10
[16:45] <jhutchins> A[D]minS: You could just restore your backup to the previous release.
[16:45] <A[D]minS> jhutchins  i wish i could :)
[16:46] <A[D]minS> jhutchins: i've done a fresh installation :) and i've just took a backup from home
[16:46] <jhutchins> A[D]minS: Well, I suppose you could do a fresh install of whatever you had before.
[16:47] <A[D]minS> jhutchins: anyways nowadays i'm working on Oracle IDM and i'm facing weird bugs ... so i'm welcoming any bug anywhere  hehehe
[16:47] <jhutchins> A[D]minS: Still, it should be possible to fix it.  If there are actual bugs you can help by reporting them.
[16:48] <A[D]minS> !Network Manager
[16:48] <cordyceps> any sansa player users here?
[16:48] <A[D]minS> jhutchins: the main issue its nor reporting anything
[16:48] <andyfied> i use sansa
[16:48] <cordyceps> andyfied: do use mpt-tools?
[16:48] <A[D]minS> i'll take alook at log files but later :(
[16:48] <andyfied> cordyceps: i have used clip+ and clip zip with ubuntu so far
[16:48] <andyfied> cordyceps: nope
[16:48] <Guest93252> Pici, ubottu , pastebin wont let me post because i dont have an image to send. i have the error copied to description but it wont let me send
[16:49] <sixtustha5> hello all
[16:49] <Pici> Guest93252: Use http://paste.ubuntu.com  if its just text
[16:49] <kippi> on oneiric is there away to upgrade libc6 rto 2.14?
[16:49] <Guest93252> Pici, k going now
[16:49] <sixtustha5> I wanted to know of a good resouce to learn Unix/Linux
[16:49] <cordyceps> andyfied: do you use ogg?
[16:50] <andyfied> cordyceps: yeah, i installed rockbox on both of mine
[16:50] <Guest93252> Pici, k i sent it
[16:50] <A[D]minS> time to leave
[16:50] <A[D]minS> jhutchins:  thx :)
[16:50] <A[D]minS> cya all
[16:51] <Pici> Guest93252: You need to provide us with the URL that you get.
[16:51] <andyfied> cordyceps: mpt-tools is to monitor your raid?
[16:51] <Guest93252> Pici, like this? http://pastebin.com/Ev0A8eUJ
[16:52] <cordyceps> andyfied: my player comes up as mtp://[usb:002,020]/
[16:52] <andyfied> cordyceps: oh, maybe you mean mtp? i did have to change the setting on the player
[16:52] <glitsj16> kippi: i doubt it, since may 2013 oneiric has been end of life
[16:53] <cordyceps> Yeah, typo ;)
[16:53] <andyfied> hehe, confused me for a bit
[16:53] <cordyceps> I did activate it in the player
[16:53] <ChogyDan1> cordyceps: maybe look here for advice: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP   I read that mtp-tools may be outdated
[16:54] <cordyceps>  my player comes up as mtp://[usb:002,020]/ Is that in the file system somewhere?
[16:54] <andyfied> cordyceps: i had to change from the propriety thing to generic mount in the player's settings then it just came up as a flash drive after that
[16:54] <ChogyDan1> cordyceps: probably not.  You would have to use an mtp mounting program for that
[16:56] <Pici> Guest93252: Did you modify your /etc/default/grub file?
[16:56] <ChogyDan> qcjn_: are you trying to check a liveusb install?  I think during bootup, there is an option to check the media
[16:56] <ChogyDan> cordyceps: did you do mtp-detect?
[16:56] <whatisthematrix> freenode irc servers experiencing some problem(s) right now?
[16:56] <ChogyDan> seems like it
[16:57] <ChogyDan1> erm, I'm sorry.  That was freenode's fault I think.  I send those messages 5 minutes ago
[16:57] <ChogyDan1> *sent
[16:57] <andyfied> cordyceps: can you switch it to USB mode and use it that way?
[16:57] <Guest93252> Pici, as a matter of fact i think i did. i was having a problem with screen brightness and someone directed me to the grub file to change something the other day.
[16:57] <andyfied> i found MTP mode didn't like my windows machine as well
[16:58] <Pici> Guest93252: It looks like you're mising an end quotation on one of the lines of /etc/default/grub.  If you pastebin that file I can tell you where you need to put it.
[16:58] <Guest93252> Pici,  Thank you, can you tell me the command to open it i forgot what it is
[16:58] <cordyceps> andyfied: that's how it was at first. It wouldn't even show in file mgr until I turn on mtp
[16:58] <Pici> Guest93252: one way is gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[16:58] <glitsj16> kippi: you could jump to 12.04 LTS, that has libc6 2.15 and has support till 2017, not an option?
[16:59]  * andyfied hmms
[17:00] <andyfied> cordyceps: what sansa is it and what are your USB mode options?
[17:00] <geothom> happy new year everyone
[17:00] <cordyceps> ChogyDan1: hmmm, mtp-detect just came me errors until I just tried it again and spewed out a bunch of pages of stuff. BTW it IS mounted in file mgr but I can't move files in or out.
[17:00] <Guest93252> Pici, Ok im going to paste it into pastebin now. The line i was told to edit the other day was called GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=
[17:01] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: no. it's a sata hd, connected trought a pci adapter. So i got out the hd and connected to another computer trought a dock station
[17:01] <linux|newb> installed nfs-common on a box running ubuntu 13.04 live cd (usb) and then tried mounting the nfs share I have running on my 12.04 server. I'm able to mount the share from all other clinux clients on the network but when I do it on this box I get "access denied by server while mounting..."
[17:01] <Guest93252> Pici, http://pastebin.com/3ekR2PuR
[17:02] <linux|newb> my export file is: /export/mediadisk 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[17:02] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: I can see the OS files from the other computer (host Win8 - Guest Mint 14). I can acces the OS files from Mint 14
[17:02] <andyfied> cordyceps: i think MTP mode is for win media player/centre, my zip has a MSC mode that is just mass storage mode and should work i think
[17:02] <Pici> Guest93252: You need a double quote on the end of line 12. it should read: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=\"!Windows 2012\""
[17:03] <andyfied> but not all the sansas have the same options
[17:03] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: and you just want to 'check' the installation?
[17:03] <cordyceps> andyfied: clipzip, options: Autodetect MTP MSC
[17:04] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: yes. I just want to check the disk and if the files form the Ubuntu Os are OK, from Mint ?
[17:04] <Guest93252> Pici, Ok I changed it should I restart and try again?
[17:04] <Pici> Guest93252: sure
[17:04] <andyfied> cordyceps: how is MSC? unfortunately i put rockbox on mine and can't get the original firmware to show up, not that i need it
[17:05] <glitsj16> Guest93252: better run sudo update-grub before rebooting
[17:05] <Pici> glitsj16: thanks, good catch
[17:05] <Guest93252> Pici,  ok thank you ill brb
[17:06] <glitsj16> Pici: no trouble, it was time now the year is almost over to have at least one catch in 2013
[17:07] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: excuse me gotto leave. Got to get the dog out. Be right back after that.
[17:07] <cordyceps> andyfied: MSC is giving me a "normal" path
[17:08] <andyfied> can you transfer files then?
[17:08] <cordyceps> but the dirs are all empty ;(
[17:08] <andyfied> cordyceps: oh. buh
[17:09]  * cordyceps trying from cli
[17:09] <andyfied> cordyceps: can you navigate to them as root? as in open a terminal and type "gksudo nautilus"
[17:10] <andyfied> i have no experience with MTP on linux so hopefully it's just a permissions thing
[17:11] <ntz> hello
[17:11] <ntz> how can I say to sudo that it immediately drops all password before theirs TTL ?
[17:11] <ntz> s/all//
[17:12] <Pici> ntz: What do you mean by "drop password"?
[17:13] <nerdtron> by default sudo remembers yours password for about 15 minutes
[17:13] <cordyceps> andyfied: ok, success at copying file over!
[17:13] <ntz> Pici: it remembers password for some time .. so when you issue your first sudo command it will ask once and not for next commands until the password is dropped
[17:13] <cordyceps> MSC looks like the way to go. Thanks!
[17:13] <nerdtron> so you want to somehow "logout" the password for sudo
[17:13] <ntz> nerdtron: yeah, i know, but how to force sudo just right after use to forget it ?
[17:13] <andyfied> cordyceps: cool! you might just need to change all the permissions so you can drag without using root
[17:13] <Pici> ntz: use sudo -k or -K
[17:14] <ntz> Pici: excellent thanks
[17:14] <Pici> ntz: well -K will make it forget the save credentials, -k with an argument will force the person to put the password in even if it was saved.
[17:14] <falcom> hey guys im using ubuntu 13.04, the unity dash is super slow. is this normal?
[17:14] <cordyceps> andyfied: no I wasn't root. Hadn't tried that yet. No, it's mounted un /media/cordyceps which has all my permissions
[17:15] <ntz> Pici: yeah, i've reread in manual
[17:16] <andyfied> cordyceps: well enjoy your clipzip, if you want more features try rockbox.org
[17:16] <cordyceps> :)
[17:17] <andyfied> i have not installed it from linux though
[17:19] <glitsj16> falcom: dash slow in opening? in searching? what happens exactly?
[17:20] <^Mike> How can I see the options used for this ext4 filesystem?
[17:21] <glitsj16> ^Mike: take a look at /etc/fstab, that would have the mount options
[17:22] <jhutchins> ^Mike: actually, the mount command should give most of the options.
[17:23] <lgpippo> ciao
[17:23] <lgpippo> !list
[17:24] <james-> Pici, Thank you changing the line seemed to help because I was able to install the additional driver package.
[17:24] <Pici> james-: yay!
[17:26] <james-> When I first install Ubuntu 13.10 that grub line read: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="", I was told to change it to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=\"!Windows 2012\"" because I am not able to change the brightness of my screen and I still can't. Thanks for helping me fix my error, would you happen to know why i wouldnt be able to change my brightness?
[17:26] <james-> sorry Pici that was for you
[17:27] <zykotick9> james-: is this an asus netbook by chance?
[17:27] <^Mike> glitsj16, jhutchins: Yes, but I want to know all the internal ext4 settings, not the mount options
[17:27] <^Mike> "rw,errors=remount-ro" isn't helpful
[17:27] <james-> zykotick9, Nope it is a Dell N4010 running Ubuntu 13.10
[17:28] <zykotick9> james-: ahhh, i'm no help then - on my asus using "acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor" fixes it... but i'd guess you need something different
[17:29] <james-> zykotick9, The brightness slider dont work, and when i try to use my f keys to change brightness nothing the brightness slider appears on the top right and flashes but it dont change. On Windows it works so I know the computer is ok just cant seem to figure it out
[17:29] <glitsj16> ^Mike: they are all listed in the manpage for mount, so man mount
[17:30] <glitsj16> ^Mike: if that is what you need, not sure
[17:31] <^Mike> no, that's not what I need
[17:32] <glitsj16> james-: have you looked at http://askubuntu.com/questions/289171/brightness-controls-not-working-on-a-dell-inspiron-n4010-laptop yet?
[17:32] <zykotick9> ^Mike: i'm curious, what are you looking for?  i've never actually given mkfs a switch before...
[17:33] <apostolos> hello can anyone help me why my weather indicator not working
[17:33] <Lunar_Lander> hello, trying to install Lubuntu on my Thinkpad T23, fake-pae worked on 12.04, then tried to move to 12.10 first, got green bars on the screen, couldn't do anything. then found this tip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074649&p=12483813#post12483813 . Do I have to install that Savage driver first somehow or does Lubuntu bring it?
[17:36] <^Mike> zykotick9, jhutchins, glitsj16: looks like dumpe2fs -h is what I wanted
[17:36] <dd> ciao
[17:36] <iKrzysiek> ?
[17:36] <dd> !list
[17:37] <iKrzysiek> I need help with ubuntu
[17:37] <iKrzysiek> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:37] <^Mike> specifically, I needed to verify that the filesystem features included extents
[17:38] <iKrzysiek> i am using lightdm
[17:38] <^Mike> Since it does, I now need to figure out why aria2c is saying that fallocate is failing O_o
[17:38] <iKrzysiek> Is any way to force session choice at reboot in lightdm?
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> iKrzysiek  lightdm remembers your last choice
[17:39] <iKrzysiek> But i have to select another one
[17:39] <iKrzysiek> My default session start's XBMC without gnome
[17:40] <iKrzysiek> I need to select another one
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> iKrzysiek  click on the gnome icon, then select
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> iKrzysiek: do you have autologin or something thats preventing you from changing the xsession?
[17:40] <iKrzysiek> but how to enable list of session?
[17:40] <iKrzysiek> yes, I have autologin
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> iKrzysiek  logout, switch, login
[17:41] <iKrzysiek> i cant do it
[17:41] <iKrzysiek> When i exit xbmc system ask me for a password and login
[17:41] <iKrzysiek> but I forgot login...
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> iKrzysiek  can't do what?
[17:41] <iKrzysiek> i must force session select at boot
[17:42] <james-> glitsj16, I just checked it out, looks real complicated for a noob like me :/
[17:42] <glitsj16> Lunar_Lander: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-savage will tell you if that is available .. if so you can do a "sudo apt-get-install xserver-xorg-video-savage"
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> iKrzysiek: in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf    under [SeatDefaults] you can set "user-session=ubuntu"
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> iKrzysiek: that should make it auto log into unity
[17:44] <iKrzysiek> I cant edit it without login :)
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> iKrzysiek: boot to recovery or text mode!
[17:45] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: have any idea ?
[17:45] <iKrzysiek> how to boot to recovery...
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> iKrzysiek: in grub selected advanced -> recovery
[17:45] <iKrzysiek> i knwo but
[17:45] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: sorry, I got lost and stopped paying attention.  What are you trying to do again?
[17:45] <iKrzysiek> how to force grub to load selection list
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> after bios you need to hit one of "esc", "left shift" or "right shift"   seems to differ form system to system
[17:47] <glitsj16> james-: the second answer looks the easiest to start with, the part from 'try this as well' .. if you want we can go over those steps
[17:48] <james-> glitsj16, yes please, and thank you.
[17:48] <glitsj16> james-: did you try to add the "acpi_backlight=vendor" in /etc/default/grub yet?
[17:48] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: comp.1 has a sata drive with ubuntu on it. The drive is connected trought a PCI adapter. Doesn'T boot anymore. But a live usb does. Got the sata drive out of comp.1 and connected it to comp.2 via a dockstation. Comp.2 (host - win8 and guest - Mint 14) I can access the drive from Mint 14. How can i check the integrity of the disk and the system to ?
[17:49] <glitsj16> or doesn't that ring any bells? just trying to get on the same page
[17:49] <james-> glitsj16, nope not yet, I just ran the command to get into the file.
[17:50] <glitsj16> james-: okay, so you have it open in an editor? if so, look for the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= line and add the acpi_backlight=vendor to the end of that, make sure it's inside the quotes
[17:50] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: do you think the drive is bad? and you want to check the drive?  Then I believe you need to fsck the drive
[17:51] <Lunar_Lander> thank you glitsj16 !
[17:51] <james-> glitsj16, Ok am I deleting what is in there and replacing it with acpi_backlight=vendor?
[17:51] <glitsj16> Lunar_Lander: yw
[17:51] <qcjn_> well i dont' t know. So i think it would be a good idea to fsck the drive. And then figure out a way to check the OS (or boot file or kernel ?)
[17:52] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1:
[17:52] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: I think a basic fsck is to make sure the drive is not mounted anymore, and then run fsck /dev/sdaWhatevernumberthedriveis
[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> :) You all have a good start into 2014!
[17:52] <glitsj16> james-: no just add to it, what's already there?
[17:52] <glitsj16> Lunar_Lander: likewise :)
[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :) see you!
[17:53] <james-> glitsj16, this is what is there now:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[17:53] <james-> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=\"!Windows 2012\""
[17:53] <glitsj16> james-: ok, add it after the "quiet splash" part
[17:54] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: i just made a umount /dev/sdc1 and it doesn't show anymore in the result of  the mount command. So can i do a fsck /dev/sdc   or it has to be sdc1 ?
[17:54] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: with the 1
[17:54] <qcjn_> ok
[17:55] <james-> glitsj16, ok so now it will look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[17:55] <entropius> Can anyone help me with an issue involving making a bootable USB stick? I'm having a problem I can't figure out.
[17:55] <ObrienDave> !anyone | entropius
[17:55] <glitsj16> james-: correct ..for now, after doing the edit save that file and run "sudo update-grub" in a terminal .. that should regenerate a fresh grub.cfg file and you can test by rebooting
[17:56] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1:  /dev/sdc1 : propre, 827964/4792320 fichiers, 6087853/19165537 blocs      <= the result. But it took less then a second ?
[17:56] <Sia-> hi
[17:56] <glitsj16> james-: if that didn't do it yet we can try the other options mentioned on the page
[17:56] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: propre means clean and fichier means file
[17:57] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: add a -f to the end of the command
[17:57] <entropius> I'm using UNetbootin to try to create a bootable USB stick (Lubuntu, but it shouldn't matter) on my own laptop to do a Linux install on a machine with no OS currently installed. Unetbootin seems to do its thing properly, but the resulting USB key only boots properly on *this* machine -- it gives "boot error" on the other machine.
[17:57] <james-> glitsj16, Thank you I will restart and brb
[17:57] <glitsj16> james-: yw, awaiting your return
[17:57] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: after sdc1 or fsck -f /dev/sdc1
[17:57] <entropius> This machine is UEFI, while the other machine is BIOS. Is there any option in Unetbootin (or any other program that does something similar) to create a BIOS boot stick? I'm new to the whole UEFI/BIOS issue.
[17:58] <ObrienDave> entropius, burn ISO to DVD
[17:58] <entropius> I don't have a DVD burner
[17:58] <entropius> (my laptop doesn't have one)
[17:59] <Sia-> Bightness  and Logout does't work with last update from 12.4 (64bit) and Additional Driver can't find any missing driver. And my graphic card is (Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ) any idea?
[17:59] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: after
[18:00] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: fsck /dev/sdc1 -f
[18:01] <ObrienDave> entropius, try Startup Disk Creator
[18:02] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: sudo fsck -f /dev/sdc1    <= did this. Running right now
[18:02] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: good
[18:03] <anew> stupid question... but i have ubuntu on my server and i want to download and install something made for linux
[18:03] <anew> will that work
[18:04] <meekum> I am running ubuntu server 12.04 with virtualbox and can't seem to get openvpn to work, can anyone help me?
[18:04] <gordonjcp> anew: Ubuntu is Linux
[18:04] <gordonjcp> anew: what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:04] <anew> well there is this program and there are two versions
[18:04] <anew> windows and linux
[18:04] <skjones_> test
[18:04] <^Mike> if I have $HOME encrypted with ecryptfs on top of ext4, that won't allow me to use fallocate, will it? :(
[18:04] <gordonjcp> anew: what's the program?
[18:04] <anew> can i just put the linux version on ubuntu and it will work ?
[18:04] <anew> its vpn software ... hidemyass
[18:05] <^Mike> Is there an easy way to permanently decrypt my home dir? (the whole disk is already encrypted)
[18:05] <gordonjcp> anew: yeah, that looks totally legit
[18:05] <anew> what do u mean
[18:05] <anew> are u looking at it
[18:05] <gordonjcp> yes
[18:06] <anew> ok will download and install... it is a .sh file....where do i put that ?
[18:06] <gordonjcp> I wouldn't touch that with the special stolen ten foot shitty stick I keep around for not touching things with
[18:06] <anew> what
[18:06] <anew> why
[18:06] <anew> ?
[18:07] <gordonjcp> it looks dodgy
[18:07] <ChogyDan1> anew: did you try this: http://wiki.hidemyass.com/Tutorials:HMA_VPN_via_OpenVPN_on_Ubuntu_with_Network_Manager
[18:07] <Guest69887> glitsj16, changing to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor" didn't work. Should I do the next step and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=\"!Windows 2012\"" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux" ?
[18:07] <anew> thats awesome chogydan1 thanks
[18:07] <anew> gordonjcp so... because its a website you've never seen before its dodgy
[18:07] <glitsj16> Guest69887: indeed
[18:08] <gordonjcp> anew: no, because it's a website very similar to many, many others I've seen before, it's dodgy
[18:08] <glitsj16> Guest69887: so same routine as before
[18:08] <Guest69887> glitsj16,  ok one sec
[18:10] <Guest69887> glitsj16, ok brb, gonna restart
[18:11] <migquail> HI, i am using ubuntu 13.10 and can not get it to communicate with my WNA3100 netgear wifi adapter
[18:12] <migquail> I have followed many online tutorials and have not come up with any answers
[18:13] <coldmoon> entropius: try Disks utility. Select your USB drive, click cog icon and select restore disk image. Worked for me.
[18:14] <migquail> i cant get it to install
[18:14] <james-> glitsj16, Still don't work :/ want me to pastebin it to you?
[18:14] <glitsj16> james-: sure
[18:15] <james-> glitsj16, ill show the whole file
[18:15] <james-> ok
[18:15] <glitsj16> ok
[18:15] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: i have to leave :( .. I'll be back in a couple of hours. Thanks anyway.
[18:16] <james-> glitsj16, here you go. http://pastebin.com/TJ8mGFqW and I appreciate the time thank you.
[18:16] <ChogyDan1> qcjn_: gl
[18:16] <qcjn_> ChogyDan1: thanks
[18:17] <entropius> Thanks for your help with booting from USB key -- I eventually got it to work by simply running dd on the .iso
[18:18] <entropius> UEFI/BIOS incompatibility is such a pain in the ass.
[18:19] <ChogyDan1> entropius: are you using bootrepair?
[18:20] <glitsj16> james-: that looks clean, we will try the manual approach to see if you can change brightness .. can you pastebin output of "ls -lh /sys/class/backlight/" next?
[18:20] <adminewb> hi all - newly upgraded here to 12.04LTS and I have trouble with the driver for wireless net as of kernel v3.x; trying to finish installing ndiswrapper but its kernel module won't build- dkms make complains of something missing; Q: do I need to install kernel source packages or will headers do?
[18:20] <glitsj16> james-: you can install pastebinit to make using the pastebin a little more convenient if you like
[18:20] <kongthap> i'm wondering pressing Super + F can search any files or can only search files which used to be opened before??
[18:21] <GeneralDisarray> hi
[18:21] <ChogyDan1> adminewb: try just installing the headers
[18:21] <adminewb> so I did
[18:21] <adminewb> kernel source is much larger
[18:22] <Sia-> it's very funny, if i boot with "nomodeset" then no Suspend, no Login/Logout, no Brightness". it's possible to start the system without "nomodeset" ?
[18:23] <Sia-> i'm using ubuntu 12.4.3 64bit with intel 3rd generation graphic card.
[18:24] <jefferson> hi
[18:24] <Sia-> it's someone her, i'm asking her for 10 times no body taking care or give any answer. What are u doing her 1600 users?
[18:25] <FlacBean02> I'm using 'Main Menu' to configure Google Chrome to start in incognito mode on default. Is there a way to find out what file 'Main Menu' is changing so I can learn how to does this without 'Main Menu'?
[18:25] <deadmund> idling
[18:25] <james-> glitsj16, I think I will do that thanks. did you get my previous paste?
[18:26] <glitsj16> james-: i read the one of your /etc/default/grub yes, that's all i got
[18:26] <james-> Ok I think that was the most recent one. I pasted the whole page
[18:27] <james-> glitsj16, did you see anything wrong in it?
[18:27] <glitsj16> james-: no that looks just fine
[18:27] <james-> glitsj16, interesting, I don't understand why it won't work.
[18:28] <adminewb> so are kernel sources needed to build modules?
[18:28] <GeneralDisarray> lots of people join and quit this channel :-)
[18:28] <glitsj16> james-: probably need to see where your hardware sets brightness values, hardware differs a lot
[18:29] <glitsj16> james-: did you install pastebinit?
[18:29] <james-> glitsj16, im opening the software manager now
[18:29] <glitsj16> ok, no rush
[18:30] <glitsj16> adminewb: no you need the kernel headers
[18:31] <james-> glitsj16, ok i installed it but dont know where to find it
[18:31] <glitsj16> james-: that's allright, you can use the 'which pastebinit' command to see where it has installed the executable
[18:32] <meekum> how do I create and/or configure a tun device?
[18:33] <deadmund> meekum: http://backreference.org/2010/03/26/tuntap-interface-tutorial/
[18:33] <deadmund> meekum: In general, you should search the web before coming to IRC (just sort of a prudence)
[18:33] <james-> glitsj16, ok it was in usr/bin. I clicked on it and it opened with gedit
[18:33] <meekum> many thanks
[18:33] <glitsj16> james-: next few steps i'll ask to paste some output to see what is actually setting brightness values on your machine, so we can put a script together to use with your hotkeys .. ls -lh /sys/class/backlight/
[18:34] <meekum> I have been searching, but its hard to weed through all the crap results
[18:34] <glitsj16> james-: yeah, it's a script but we will be using the terminal for this
[18:34] <james-> glitsj16,  ok terminal is open
[18:35] <glitsj16> james-: ls -lh /sys/class/backlight/ | pastebinit .. and put the url you get in here if you want
[18:35] <glitsj16> that's a minor L
[18:35] <james-> glitsj16, I have the output on the terminal. Here it is: total 0
[18:35] <james-> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 31 13:11 dell_backlight -> ../../devices/platform/dell-laptop/backlight/dell_backlight
[18:35] <james-> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 31 13:11 intel_backlight -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-LVDS-1/intel_backlight
[18:36] <glitsj16> james-: next: ls -lh /sys/class/backlight/dell_backlight/brightness
[18:37] <james-> glitsj16, ls -lh /sys/class/backlight/dell_backlight/brightness
[18:37] <glitsj16> james-: yes, what does that output?
[18:38] <james-> glitsj16, oops sorry lol the output is : -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.0K Dec 31 13:11 /sys/class/backlight/dell_backlight/brightness
[18:38] <hitsujiTMO> you want to cat brightness not list it
[18:38] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: forgot, thanks :)
[18:39] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: you're much better with this, i wouldn't mind you taking over and helping out james- here
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> whats the problem?
[18:40] <glitsj16> his brightness slider and keys aren't working
[18:40] <glitsj16> http://askubuntu.com/questions/289171/brightness-controls-not-working-on-a-dell-inspiron-n4010-laptop is his make and model
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> james-: do the keys make the the brightness visualisation appear in the top right corner?
[18:42] <james-> hitsujiTMO, yes it flashes
[18:42] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: appreciate the help
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> james-: so keys are working. just not mapping to the right device.
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: np
[18:43] <james-> glitsj16, thank you for your time. hitsujiTMO yes the key seems to work but when i hit it the brightness bar appears at the top right and flashes but nothing happens and the bar dont move. If I go to the Ubuntu menu and bring up the brightness bar I can slide it left and right but nothing changes
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> james-: cat /sys/class/backlight/dell_backlight/brightness
[18:44] <adminewb> glitsj16, thanks, so then what means this cryptic dkms make error, from /var/lib/dkms/ndiswrapper/1.57/build/make.log? http://pastebin.com/f60YHrnK ; afaict, the headers are not missing from the /usr/src subtree
[18:45] <glitsj16> james-: yw, you're in very capable hands
[18:45] <james-> hitsujiTMO, I put the command in but nothing happened.
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> james-: cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[18:45] <james-> hitsujiTMO, just copy it into the terminal?
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> yup
[18:46] <james-> hitsujiTMO,  4613
[18:46] <glitsj16> adminewb: apt-cache policy linux-headers-3.8.0-26-generic will confirm if you have those
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> james-: now play with the slider and rerun that command
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> james-: if its high set it low.
[18:46] <kongthap> i'm wondering pressing Super + F can search any files or can only search files which used to be opened before??
[18:47] <james-> hitsujiTMO,  nothing yet
[18:47] <adminewb> not used apt-cache before, but its output sure doesn't appear like something is missing
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> james-: whats the value of: cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[18:48] <adminewb> could pastebin it if you care to look
[18:48] <james-> hitsujiTMO, still 4613
[18:48] <Sia-> i've added my question her http://askubuntu.com/questions/398246/intel-graphic-3rd-with-12-4-nomodeset-working-but maybe somebody have a solution for it?
[18:48] <glitsj16> adminewb: headers come in pairs, so double-check with "apt-cache policy linux-headers-3.8.0-26" if you have that too
[18:48] <glitsj16> adminewb: sure, please do
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ok. cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[18:49] <james-> hitsujiTMO, 4882
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> james-: echo 1000 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[18:50] <glitsj16> kongthap: i assume it can search for any file, you might need to adjust the filter settings to see if you have configured it to show all output
[18:50] <james-> hitsujiTMO,  ok the backlight dimmed from the command
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> james-: echo 4613 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ok. so we know thats the right interface at least
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> james-: can you pastebin the output of: lsmod
[18:52] <kongthap> glitsj16, i got files from dropbox, i cannot search for it, after i manually open the file then i can search for it, i looked at the filter nothing i can do, any ideas???
[18:52] <james-> hitsujiTMO, and now the backlight is bright again. LOL at least we know something is right. Ok one sec and ill paste it
[18:52] <adminewb> glitsj16: http://pastebin.com/2xf23tSR
[18:53] <adminewb> one side is full of symbolic links, the other is actual header content
[18:53] <glitsj16> kongthap: not really no, i hardly use the search thru dash sorry
[18:53] <glitsj16> adminewb: having a look
[18:53] <kongthap> glitsj16, :)
[18:53] <james-> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/WuxVqjK7
[18:55] <indigo_> i was using wubi to install and got some errors
[18:55] <indigo_> i was using wubi to install and got some errors http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=X2QRhGcb
[18:55] <indigo_> i was using wubi to install and got some errors http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=X2QRhGcb
[18:55] <glitsj16> adminewb: paste confirms you have the headers installed allright .. can you paste output of "sudo dkms status" pls? and what you are trying to do exactly
[18:56] <indigo_> im trying to install ubuntu
[18:56] <indigo_> currently using windows and want to dual boot
[18:57] <indigo_> im trying to install ubuntu
[18:57] <indigo_> currently using windows and want to dual boot
[18:57] <indigo_> i was using wubi to install and got some errors http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=X2QRhGcb
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> james-: give me a few mins. just going to read up on the issue
[18:57] <asmodeus> hi. 12.04 was working fine, but I had to replace the hd.  After reinstalling 12.04, the amd/ati kernel drivers wouldn't work.  After some poking, i discovered that it couldn't find version.h where it thought it should be.  I linked it, but then it complained missing symbols or something.  I figured that updating ubuntu to 12.10 would iron it out.  Drivers still won't install, and the /usr/src/ kernel headers are gone, and there 
[18:57] <wh0rez> What's up
[18:58] <james-> hitsujiTMO, thank you i dont know where to start
[18:58] <adminewb> glitsj16, http://pastebin.com/5dVVa85h; disregard the phc stuff it's incidental; all I want is to finish installing ndiswrapper, which has a kernel module build in it
[19:00] <adminewb> oh also remove the ";"  that got stuck into the URL
[19:00] <asmodeus> and...why would 3.8 kernel headers be in 12.04, but not in 12.10?
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> james-: can you run: acpi_listen                    then hit the brightness up key and then the brightness down key. and can you pastebin the results
[19:02] <glitsj16> adminewb: np, lets try and build ndiswrapper dkms again, run "sudo dkms build -m ndiswrapper -v 1.57 -k 3.8.0-26-generic" and paste the output again when finished
[19:02] <james-> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/4FQs8PFP
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> james-: so up is 86 and down is 87?
[19:04] <james-> hitsujiTMO, yes
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> james-: how many brightness steps would you like to have?
[19:05] <developer> .
[19:05] <developer> hello guys, is it possible to send custom hook command from browser to terminal automatically ?
[19:06] <developer> for example play://blaa blaaa from browser to terminal ?
[19:06] <james-> hitsujiTMO, Just three would work good for me, brightest, halfway, and dimmest.
[19:07] <adminewb> glitsj16: http://pastebin.com/gfnzy9xP same old same old
[19:07] <adminewb> so what means "kernel build files"? that would be more than just headers and make info
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> james-: give me a few mins while i write some scripts
[19:10] <james-> hitsujiTMO, Thank you
[19:10] <TJ-> adminewb: List the installed header packages, see if "linux-headers-3.8.0-26" is installed: "dpkg-query -l 'linux-headers*' | grep '^ii'"
[19:11] <glitsj16> adminewb: you have all it needs i'm quite sure, let's try adding the path explicitly and see what happens okay? try "sudo dkms build --kernelsourcedir /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-26-generic -m ndiswrapper -v 1.57 -k 3.8.0-26-generic"
[19:11] <args0> hi
[19:12] <adminewb> TJ- yes the headers are present
[19:13] <glitsj16> args0: hello
[19:13] <args0> glitsj16: Happy New Year :D
[19:14] <TJ-> adminewb: Does it show both "linux-headers-3.8.0-26" and "linux-headers-3.8.0-26-generic" ?
[19:14] <glitsj16> args0: likewise :à
[19:15] <adminewb> http://pastebin.com/vwS9pc3T
[19:15] <adminewb> TJ- yes both are present -generic and not
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> james-: save this to /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh http://paste.ubuntu.com/6669951/
[19:18] <hitsujiTMO> james-: save this to /etc/acpi/brightness-down.sh http://paste.ubuntu.com/6669956/
[19:19] <james-> hitsujiTMO ok do I download as text first? or do I copy it then paste it in writer and save it?
[19:19] <glitsj16> adminewb: to me line 8 of your paste confirms it's looking in the correct location .. don't know what the "make mrproper" line is about though, that seems to error (line 7) .. TJ- or some other eyes might have ideas
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> james-: copy+paste it to nano is prob easiest
[19:19] <james-> hitsujiTMO,  what is nano?
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> james-: terminal text editor :P
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> james-: you could also save it to a file on the destop with gedit and copy it to the correct location
[19:20] <makachu> can anyone tell me how to recover a partition boot record
[19:21] <james-> hitsujiTMO, im sorry this is all so new to me i don't know what i'm doing lol.
[19:21] <TJ-> adminewb: I missed all the steps you've taken, hang on whilst I grep the channel log to read back.
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> james-: lol, np
[19:21] <jhutchins> makachu: Usually you just replace it.
[19:21] <makachu> those 512 bytes was overwritten and now it is a partition with unknown file system
[19:22] <jhutchins> makachu: What filesystem is it?
[19:22] <james-> hitsujiTMO, how do I open the terminal text editor to paste the script?
[19:22] <jhutchins> makachu: MBR != partition table.
[19:22] <jhutchins> makachu: What partititions did you have?
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sudo nano /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh                            then right click -> paste .... hit ctrl+o to save ... ctrl+x to exit
[19:23] <TJ-> adminewb: "ls -l /usr/src/ | pastebinit"
[19:24] <JoeyJoeJo> I've got a 2TB hdd with LVM on it. I have one logical volume now which is working, but when I try to make a new logical volume, which I have the free space for, lvcreate just hangs and I can't kill it. What causes this?
[19:24] <adminewb> not before seen any machine-generated log that refers to an "I"
[19:24] <TJ-> JoeyJoeJo: What command are you issuing?
[19:24] <adminewb> how can an operating system be a first person
[19:24] <jhutchins> makachu: What partititions did you have?
[19:24] <james-> hitsujiTMO, ok before I paste I have a quick question. On the pastebin it shows # 1-12 do I include those when I paste?
[19:25] <JoeyJoeJo> TJ- lvcreate -L 100G -n MyLogicalVolume MyVolumeGroup
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> james-: no. just the text. not the line numbers
[19:25] <james-> ok
[19:25] <JoeyJoeJo> TJ-: the weird thing is that pvdisplay and vgdisplay also hang
[19:25] <asmodeus> anyone know how to get 3.8.0-34-generic headers reinstalled after a 12.04 to 12.10 upgrade? The upgrade deleted them and they are no longer in apt.
[19:25] <TJ-> JoeyJoeJo: Have you tried a reboot?
[19:25] <adminewb> TJ- yes everything is really there
[19:26] <JoeyJoeJo> TJ-:Yup, that didn't help
[19:26] <adminewb> one side is full of symbolic links, the other is header content
[19:26] <TJ-> adminewb: is there a "/usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.57" ?
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> james-: once you've that done we can test them and then try map the acpi keys to the scripts
[19:27] <adminewb> yes to /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.57, it's full of C source files
[19:28] <adminewb> and a makefile
[19:28] <jhutchins> JoeyJoeJo: Excellent example of why LVM is an unnecessary complication to be avoided.
[19:28] <jhutchins> JoeyJoeJo: I would try fsck next.
[19:28] <TJ-> adminewb: OK, just checking the basics !
[19:28] <jhutchins> Is ndiswrapper even still maintained?
[19:29] <adminewb> don't know
[19:29] <jhutchins> adminewb: What on earth are you using it for?
[19:29] <adminewb> somehow it survived my 12.04 upgrade, i presume so
[19:29] <adminewb> there's no 3.x native kernel driver for my wireless
[19:30] <TJ-> adminewb: see bug #1090196
[19:30] <adminewb> so what else should I try besides ndiswrapper, or buy more (*&#@$ hardware?
[19:30] <james-> hitsujiTMO, I did it but when I tried ctrlo and ctrlx nothing happened
[19:31] <adminewb> oh there's a confirmed bug then
[19:31] <adminewb> ok
[19:31] <kongthap> how to test "source ~/git-completion.bash" is completed or not???
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> james-: o.O so is nano still open?
[19:31] <james-> I closed the terminal and put the sudo nano /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh command back into the terminal and everything i pasted in there is still there but im not sure if it saved because it didn't exit
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ok. instead open gedit from the dash and save them to the desktop
[19:32] <TJ-> adminewb: download the gentoo patch using "wget -O /tmp/ndiswrapper.diff https://raw.github.com/Rogentos/argent-gentoo/master/net-wireless/ndiswrapper/files/ndiswrapper-1.58_rc1-linux-3.7.patch"
[19:32] <adminewb> TJ- so there's reference to that patch in the bug report?
[19:32] <TJ-> adminewb: Now go into the ndiswrapper directory and lets see if you can apply that patch cleanly: "chdir /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.57"
[19:32] <james-> hitsujiTMO, ok i opened gedit from the dash, now do I paste what you gave me into it and save to the desktop?
[19:33] <adminewb> wait, did I hear disdain for trying to use ndiswrapper at all? what rationale in that?
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> james-: yup. just make sure to name them correctly :P
[19:34] <adminewb> I can't try any more experiments now, I'm expected at work, but thanks for the attention
[19:34] <james-> hitsujiTMO, what do i name it as?
[19:34] <TJ-> adminewb: And then "sudo patch -p2 </tmp/ndiswrapper.diff" and pastebin the result of that command, please
[19:34] <adminewb> if I can find your gentoo patch in the bug report page, I'll proceed from there
[19:34] <jhutchins> adminewb: What chipset?
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> james-: brightness-up.sh and brightness-down.sh
[19:34] <adminewb> jhutchins one device has Ralink RT2870 I believe, don't know about the new one
[19:35] <jhutchins> adminewb: There are very few that don't have at least some kind of support.RTL2870?
[19:35] <adminewb> will look into it later must go now
[19:35] <jhutchins> adminewb: Ok, we
[19:35] <james-> hitsujiTMO, ok they are both named differently but are both the same paste? brb saving now
[19:35] <jhutchins> adminewb: We
[19:35] <TJ-> adminewb: save the commands I gave you ... they'll take 1 minute
[19:35] <jhutchins> Dang, too many different keyboards.
[19:35] <adminewb> it will be in my chat log
[19:35] <jhutchins> adminewb: We can try to find the native support next time.
[19:36] <adminewb> thanks all bye
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> james-: no 2 pastes. this one is down http://paste.ubuntu.com/6669956/
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> james-: this one is up http://paste.ubuntu.com/6669951/
[19:37] <Bray90820_> Is there any way to change the primary admin
[19:37] <jhutchins> Humph.  Supported since 2.6.31, just needs firmware.
[19:37] <jhutchins> TJ-: Are you still using ndiswrapper?
[19:38] <TJ-> jhutchins: Never used it
[19:39] <james-> hitsujiTMO, to make sure i did it right http://pastebin.com/m3GUPikb
[19:39] <jhutchins> I really haven't seen it used much since the late 2.6 kernels.  Most chipsets seem to get native support pretty quickly these days.
[19:40] <TJ-> jhutchins: adminewb reported a DKMS build problem, we assumed it was required with 12.04
[19:40] <Bray90820_> Is there any way to change the primary admin so I can enter my own password when I install updates
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sweet. now: chmod +x ~/Desktop/brightness-up.sh && chmod +x ~/Desktop/Brightness-down.sh
[19:42] <bekks> Bray90820_: You always enter the password of the user for installing updates.
[19:42] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sorry that should be: chmod +x ~/Desktop/brightness-up.sh && chmod +x ~/Desktop/brightness-down.sh
[19:42] <glitsj16> jhutchins: i was the one who should have asked adminewb why he was trying ndiswrapper, i jumped straight into his build error log, nothing TJ-'s mistake, just me .. lesson learned
[19:42] <bekks> Bray90820_: Use another user then.
[19:42] <TJ-> glitsj16: From that bug report it seems to me it is still required on 12.04
[19:43] <james-> hitsujiTMO, ok i put the chmod +x ~/Desktop/brightness-up.sh && chmod +x ~/Desktop/brightness-down.sh command in
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> james-: that goes into the terminal
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> james-: yup
[19:43] <glitsj16> TJ-: indeed, so i tried to get a view on why his dkms build kept failing
[19:43] <james-> hitsujiTMO, I put it in, when I hit enter nothing happened yet
[19:43] <Bray90820_> bekks: well i created a user Called Aaron and one called merisue but it keeps asking me to enter the passowrd for merisue when i try to install updates no matter what user i am loged in as
[19:43] <james-> hitsujiTMO, seems to be ready for another command.
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> james-: thats ok. now. this is where we test it.
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> james-: the down script can bring your screen all the way down to 0 so be careful here. just call it once.
[19:44] <connor_> Hi, I was wondering if I could get some help with my computer's resolution.
[19:44] <bekks> Bray90820_: is Aaron an admin too?
[19:44] <Bray90820_> Yes but i created that user after Merisue
[19:44] <james-> hitsujiTMO, still nothing happens. Should I restart?
[19:45] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: whats the output of cat /etc/issue
[19:45] <bekks> Bray90820_: the order of creation is irrelevant.
[19:45] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:45] <connor_> I moved my computer and plugged in the display cable, but then the resolution of my computer got stuck at 1600x900
[19:45] <connor_> I can't change it to 1920x1080 :/
[19:45] <Bray90820_> Altho it works ok if i use the terminal
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> james-: james- sudo ~/Desktop/brightness-down.sh
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> james-: then sudo ~/Desktop/brightness-up.sh
[19:46] <james-> hitsujiTMO, when using the sudo command it works
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> james-: cool
[19:46] <filesoffiles> Hello, I disabled unnecessary scripts in my /etc/grub.d and now my grub is all blue and black, how do I get it back to purple?
[19:47] <Bray90820_> bekks: "\N \L"
[19:47] <hitsujiTMO> now move it into place. sudo cp ~/Desktop/brightness.sh /etc/acpi/
[19:47] <bekks> Bray90820_: I didnt ask that. :)
[19:47] <hitsujiTMO> now move it into place. sudo cp ~/Desktop/brightness-up.sh /etc/acpi/
[19:47] <hitsujiTMO> now move it into place. sudo cp ~/Desktop/brightness-down.sh /etc/acpi/
[19:47] <bekks> Bray90820_: Whats the output of "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin?
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> james: now move it into place. sudo cp ~/Desktop/brightness-down.sh /etc/acpi/ && sudo cp ~/Desktop/brightness-up.sh /etc/acpi/
[19:48] <Bray90820_> Hang on let me switch computers
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ^
[19:48] <james-> hitsujiTMO, is that a command?
[19:49] <filesoffiles> The output of `ls /etc/grub.d/` is: 00_header*  05_debian_theme*  10_linux*  20_linux_xen  20_memtest86+  30_os-prober  30_uefi-firmware  40_custom*  41_custom  README ,  where stared files are marked executable.
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sorry yup
[19:50] <filesoffiles> I'm confused by this behaviour since 05_debian_theme is still active, yet the theme has changed.
[19:50] <james-> hitsujiTMO, bash: :s^: no previous substitution
[19:51] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sudo cp ~/Desktop/brightness-down.sh /etc/acpi/
[19:51] <hitsujiTMO> james-: that ok?
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> bekks: he's so using mint or debian :P
[19:52] <james-> hitsujiTMO, I was able to put it in but when I hit enter I didn't get a signal back
[19:52] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Yeah.
[19:53] <hitsujiTMO> james-: yup that's ok. and: sudo cp ~/Desktop/brightness-up.sh /etc/acpi/
[19:53] <hitsujiTMO> james-: then pastebin the output of: ls -l /etc/acpi/
[19:54] <james-> hitsujiTMO, k one sec
[19:55] <kongthap> how to test "source ~/git-completion.bash" is completed or not??? cat ???
[19:55] <james-> http://pastebin.com/5jhGMdbp
[19:55] <james-> oops hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/5jhGMdbp
[19:57] <tonito> hi
[19:57] <Bray90820_> bekks can you send me the code again
[19:58] <bekks> Bray90820_: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[19:58] <asmodeus> and...why would 3.8 kernel headers be in 12.04, but not in 12.10?
[19:58] <asmodeus> anyone know how to get 3.8.0-34-generic headers reinstalled after a 12.04 to 12.10 upgrade? The upgrade deleted them and they are no longer in apt.
[19:59] <tonito> how do I change the form of the login window in ubuntu studio
[19:59] <HereForTheBoredo> Hey guys, would someone be willing to give me a little hand with better understanding how I should be setting up my users/groups for ftp/ssh on a web server to avoid issues w/ permissions?
[20:01] <tonito> someone help me?
[20:02] <glitsj16> asmodeus: probably because 12.04 is LTS and has backport support for newer kernels (and headers) contrary to 12.10 .. you could grab the needed .deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-headers-3.8.0-34-generic
[20:02] <Bray90820_> bekks i should note that the username isn't Aaron it's admin
[20:02] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cLHRSNtW
[20:02] <james-> hitsujiTMO, everything look right?
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> james-: crap lost the chat log with acpi keys. can you again run: acpi_listen     and hit brightness up and pastebin the output
[20:03] <asmodeus> glitsj16: I'm not sure I understand...12.04 has a newer kernel than 12.10?
[20:04] <bekks> Bray90820_: Whats "uname -a"?
[20:04] <Bray90820_> bekks: there is no username of -a on this computer
[20:05] <Bray90820_> was i suppose to replace -a with the udername
[20:05] <whatisthematrix> the 'uname' command doesn't refer to a username
[20:05] <whatisthematrix> Bray90820_: just as he put it....   uname -a
[20:06] <Bray90820_> whatisthematrix: this is what was given to me
[20:06] <Bray90820_> [13:58] <bekks> Bray90820_: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[20:06] <whatisthematrix> oh, okay, nvm me
[20:07] <Bray90820_> bekks: what should i do now?
[20:07] <glitsj16> asmodeus: looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image-3.8.0-34-generic it doesn't mention it being available on 12.10 so i believe so yes
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> james-: you get that?
[20:08] <james-> hitsujiTMO,  yes one sex
[20:08] <james-> sec**
[20:08] <whatisthematrix> lol
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: i think bekks is waiting on the output of: uname -a
[20:11] <Bray90820_> bekks: are you waiting for the output of "uname -a"
[20:11] <bekks> Bray90820_: Thats why I asked for it...
[20:11] <asmodeus> glitsj16: i think the only solution for my original problem is to reinstall 12.04 and then figure out how to go back to 3.2
[20:11] <james-> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/Gp0Drmau
[20:11] <Bray90820_> alright sorry for not understanding i willd do that right now
[20:12] <glitsj16> asmodeus: 12.04 will have LTS support too for a few more years, good idea
[20:13] <Bray90820_> bekks: here you go
[20:13] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=25A1JWVJ
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> james-: paste this into the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6670155/
[20:14] <asmodeus> glitsj16: thanks for the help, hopefully reverting 12.04 back to a 3.2 kernel isn't too tricky.
[20:15] <glitsj16> asmodeus: yw, and it should be a regular install, goodluck
[20:15] <james-> hitsujiTMO, bash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6670155/: No such file or directory
[20:16] <james-> hitsujiTMO, i'm sorry I need a minute please, need to take the dog out real quick I will be back quick
[20:16] <mahir256> james-: go to the link, copy the text, then paste it into bash. common sense man
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sudo apt-get install acpid
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ahh kk. no problems. message me when you get back. almost done at least
[20:17] <Bashing-om> asmodeus: The 3.2 kernel is standard in the 12.04.1 version only ! 12.04.2 and above backport the 12.10 kernel and above.
[20:17] <james-> hitsujiTMO, sorry bout that im back
[20:18] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sudo apt-get install acpid
[20:18] <james-> acpid is already the newest version
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ls -l /etc/acpi/events
[20:20] <Bray90820_> bekks: what should i do now
[20:21] <james-> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/ZMGC6NuT
[20:21] <Bray90820_> bekks: it looks like i am just automaticly loged in as sh
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ahh i know what i did wrong. forgot to add sudo :P
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> james-: again: paste in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/6670182/
[20:23] <james-> hitsujiTMO, ok i did it
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sudo service acpid restart
[20:23] <james-> hitsujiTMO, ok
[20:24] <michael__> Hello
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> james-: try the brightness keys on the keyboard
[20:24] <michael__> I am having a very strange problem with the find command
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> !details | michael__
[20:24] <michael__> Sorry, I have lag on my end
[20:25] <Bray90820_> bekks: any ideas on what i should do
[20:25] <michael__> When I run find on it's own, it finds the files I am searching for
[20:25] <michael__> When I run "./kernel/i386 -wholename *.cpp" it only finds .cpp files (As expected)
[20:26] <michael__> Sorry, forgot to copy the beginning of that command, full command is "find ./kernel/i386 -wholename *.S"
[20:27] <michael__> With *.cpp, it finds files ending in .cpp, but with *.S, it finds nothing, even though such files exist
[20:27] <james> hitsujiTMO, it works! it adjusts down
[20:28] <bekks> michael__: find ./kernel/i386 -wholename "*.S"
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> james and does up work?
[20:28] <michael__> That worked
[20:28] <Guest97101> hitsujiTMO, I don't know why my nickname changed. my screen will dim down but dont go back up yet
[20:28] <michael__> Why was it not working originally?
[20:29] <Guest97101> hitsujiTMO, The bar will go up but the screen will stay the same
[20:29] <bekks> michael__: BEcause of the missing "" which allow shell expansion.
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Guest97101: pastebin: cat /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh
[20:29] <michael__> Ok, it's odd.
[20:30] <michael__> In the past, it was working, but I did a clean build, and it suddenly stopped working
[20:30] <michael__> And it was only expanding when using .S, and not .cpp
[20:30] <jiffe98> how does one go about getting an open source library added to the ubuntu repos?
[20:30] <Bray90820_> bekks: any advice for me
[20:31] <Guest97101> hitsujiTMO, real quick can you send the command to make the screen bright again? I can barely see lol
[20:31] <michael__> jiffe98: sudo apt-add-repository "ppa:<name>"
[20:31] <bekks> Bray90820_: Ensure your second user is an admin, too.
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> Guest97101: echo 4800 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[20:32] <gabe> Hi
[20:32] <Bray90820_> bekks: there are 3 users on this computer Admin, Kenny and Merisue and the onlyone that is stardard is Kenny
[20:33] <SeanJohn85> Man Ubuntu is been getting hated on so much lately, I don't get it.
[20:33] <bekks> Bray90820_: And the passwords for Admin and Merisue arent the same?
[20:33] <Bray90820_> No they arn't
[20:33] <SeanJohn85> Brings so many Windows/Mac users over to Linux.. it is great.
[20:33] <gabe> hello?
[20:33] <Guest97101> hitsujiTMO, thats much better thank you lol. and here is the paste: http://pastebin.com/kGtJu2iR
[20:34] <Bray90820_> bekks: the passwords are different for ever user
[20:34] <jiffe98> michael__: I'm not looking at add an external link to the sources list, I am looking to add a library to the ubuntu main repo, or more probably universe
[20:34] <gabe> can anyone see my typing?
[20:34] <Bray90820_> gabe: i can
[20:34] <gabe> :)
[20:34] <FranktheTank> Hey all. How would I go about installing ubuntu for android? I can't seem to find any instructions anywhere. Also, is this the actual ubuntu OS or just a customization of android?
[20:34] <gabe> well, kinda new to linux, I just installed Xubuntu on my external hard drive
[20:35] <FranktheTank> gabe: traitor -> exit is this way  [ ]
[20:35] <FranktheTank> jk
[20:35] <michael__> FranktheTank: It's a skinned version of cyanogenmod
[20:35] <FranktheTank> michael__: thanks
[20:35] <gabe> why am I a traitor?
[20:36] <michael__> FranktheTank: What device are you using?
[20:36] <FranktheTank> gabe: ubuntu != xubuntu
[20:36] <FranktheTank> michael__: galaxy s4 active
[20:36] <gabe> I know, they are just different desktop environments
[20:36] <FranktheTank> michael__: that brings me to my next question. How can I install the Ubuntu OS on my phone, then?
[20:36] <michael__> FranktheTank: I think that at the current moment, it's only available on nexus devices
[20:36] <andyfied> gabe: hello
[20:37] <FranktheTank> gabe: also slightly different terminal commands - by default
[20:37] <gabe> yeah... at least I still have my sudo apt-get command
[20:37] <gabe> :P
[20:37] <FranktheTank> gabe: you should experiment with rm -rf and your root directory :p
[20:38] <andyfied> um
[20:38] <gabe> lolno
[20:38] <FranktheTank> jk
[20:38] <bekks> !ops | FranktheTank not funny.
[20:38] <FranktheTank> !ops | bekks I'm hilarious
[20:38] <gabe> Um
[20:38] <gabe> so much just happened
[20:38] <andyfied> can we go back to "hello"?
[20:39] <gabe> yeah
[20:39] <andyfied> hi gabe! how are you?
[20:39] <gabe> good
[20:39] <IdleOne> gabe: ignore anything the frank person said.
[20:39] <gabe> I will
[20:39] <bekks> IdleOne: Thank you.
[20:39] <andyfied> gabe: welcome to the channel
[20:39] <gabe> thanks
[20:39] <gabe> glad to be here
[20:40] <BluesKaj> anyone who tells users to use the command frankthetank just posted is liable to be booted , it can bork your system, gabe
[20:40] <gabe> I know, i have done it before
[20:40] <andyfied> to be fair immediately calling someone a "traitor" is hugely unfriendly
[20:40] <andyfied> and not what this channel is about
[20:41] <michael__> What is going on in this channel?
[20:41]  * BluesKaj wonders what happened to holiday spirit on some of th chats lately
[20:41] <Guest97101> hitsujiTMO, does everything you told me to do look correct?
[20:41] <gabe> well, I have had a little experience with Ubuntu, but not really that much
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> Guest97101: yup. i've an idea where it might have gone wrong. in the terminal try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6670253/
[20:43] <andyfied> i have fairly simple knowledge as well, i'm running lubuntu but i find i can help answer some simple queries
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> Guest97101: then try: sudo service acpid restart
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> Guest97101: test the brightness keys again
[20:44] <gabe> Xubuntu is probably my favorite Ubuntu flavor yet. I tried Lubuntu but it seems a little too lightweight
[20:45] <Guest57527> Anyway to add Compiz to startup applications?
[20:46] <lickalott> gents, having a small issue.  i'm trying to setup ssh and sftp.  but when i configure the sshd_config for sftp it won't authenticate my ssh users.  the only way to get ssh working again is to revert back to the saved/original sshd_config that I backed up.   has anyone had any experience with this?
[20:46] <andyfied> i should be running server, but i'm not quite comfortable losing the DE yet
[20:46] <Guest97101> hitsujiTMO, same result dims but won't go back to bright. Want me to pastebin you something else?
[20:47] <gabe> does anyone know if i could get compiz for my Xubuntu install?
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> Guest97101: sudo mv /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh /etc/acpi/brightness-up2.sh
[20:48] <whatisthematrix> gabe: yes. you should be able to install various window managers if you want
[20:48] <gabe> whatisthematrix; how do I install compiz?
[20:48] <Bray90820_> bekks: all users have different passowrds
[20:48] <Bray90820_> now what should i do
[20:49] <whatisthematrix> gabe: sudo apt-get install compiz
[20:50] <gabe> whatisthematrix: thanks, ill type that right now
[20:50] <Guest97101> hitsujiTMO, ok i put it in
[20:50] <CEnnis91> anyone familiar with upstart
[20:50] <hitsujiTMO> Guest97101: echo "echo moo > /tmp/foobar" | sudo tee /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh
[20:50] <Guest97101> ok
[20:50] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: what exactly is the issue?
[20:51] <CEnnis91> Failed to bind address for upstart events: Address already in use
[20:51] <CEnnis91> Failed to listen for upstart events: Bad file descriptor
[20:52] <gabe> so i did sudo apt-get install compiz and put in my password, so its installed, but how do i get to it
[20:52] <Guest87738> is there irc channels for advice?
[20:53] <whatisthematrix> gabe: it'll show up as a selection in your 'display manager'. i'm kind of guessing the name of it will be 'gnome classic' or something like that
[20:53] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: I have 2 admin users marisue, and admin but if i am on admin it is asking me to enter the passowrd for merisue to be able to install slftware and update
[20:54] <whatisthematrix> gabe: might be 'gnome minimal'.. not certain
[20:54] <james-> hitsujiTMO, ok done what next?
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: you may have some package installed thats causing that. can you install pastebinit: sudo apt-get instal pastebinit
[20:54] <whatisthematrix> gabe: so you will need to log out of your current window manger session
[20:54] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: I can do it from the terminal eventho my unsername doesn't show up in the netrminal
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> james-: once thats done. try turn the brightness up. it wont work. but ... run it anyway
[20:55] <gabe> ok, i'll do that now
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> james-: then: ls -l /tmp/foobar
[20:55] <whatisthematrix> gabe: okay, good luck
[20:55] <gabe> but i also have to installl updates, so i gotta restart -.-
[20:56] <kongthap> i installed "dia" i can run it from terminal, why i cannot find it in the dash (Super + A) ???
[20:56] <gabe> cya in a minute
[20:56] <whatisthematrix> gabe: ahh, rgr. i know how that goes
[20:56] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: pastebinit installed just fine
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: cool. not lets see what packages you've installed to see what may have caused it: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: paste the url it generates here then
[20:57] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6670306/
[21:00] <james-> hitsujiTMO, james@james-Inspiron-N4010:~$ ls -l /tmp/foobar
[21:00] <james-> ls: cannot access /tmp/foobar: No such file or directory
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: nothing suspicious there. cat /etc/passwd | pastebinit
[21:01] <OerHeks> james-, for actions outside you /home/ folder, use Sudo
[21:01] <secleinteer> is there a way to install ubuntu server from an ubuntu desktop edition live usb?
[21:01] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6670314/
[21:02] <OerHeks> secleinteer, nope
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ok. must be an issue with the acpi pickup. can you again run: acpi_listen            and just do the brightness up key
[21:03] <james-> hitsujiTMO,  james@james-Inspiron-N4010:~$ acpi_listen
[21:03] <james-> video DD02 00000086 00000000
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: how did you create the admin account?
[21:06] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: i did it normally through user accounts i think
[21:06] <Bray90820_> in system settings
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> bray90820: no you didn't and that's part of the problem
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: hence the wrong shell
[21:06] <gabe> ok, so i got compiz
[21:07] <gabe> and i cant switch to it
[21:07] <gabe> hold on
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: cat /etc/group | pastebinit
[21:07] <Bray90820_> I can remove the account and recreate it
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: might not be necessary
[21:07] <Bray90820_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6670344/
[21:08] <gabe> ok
[21:08] <gabe> im beack
[21:09] <gabe> so, now i cant change my windows manager
[21:09] <glitsj16> gabe: i don't think installing compiz gives you a new session entree you can just use to switch to, you'll need to add a few things to your existing xfce/xubuntu session .. there's a nice guide at http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: sudo adduser admin sudo
[21:10] <Guest57527> I'm having the same problem with Compiz doesnt seem to be running right with GNOME in Ubuntu 13.10
[21:10] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: done now what
[21:10] <glitsj16> gabe: that should still work for 13.10 if you're using that btw
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: log into admin
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: try anything requiring sudo
[21:10] <mohebi> hi
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> james-: ls -l /etc/acpi
[21:11] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: sudo always worked correctly
[21:11] <glitsj16> Guest57527: hmm, i think gnome-shell has its own compositing system, using mutter iirc
[21:11] <whatisthematrix> glitsj16: interesting. it shows that compiz depends up 'compiz-gnome', so i thought it would create some new session entry. but i wasn't certain though
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: couldn't have when you weren't in the sudo group
[21:11] <Guest57527> You cant use Compiz with GNOME 3.9.90?
[21:12] <glitsj16> whatisthematrix: yeah, it's a bit confusing
[21:12] <whatisthematrix> glitsj16: rgr
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: try doing something in the system settings
[21:12] <Bray90820_> Then something even more strange is going on because it asked me for the sudo password for admin and it accepted it
[21:12] <gabe> brb guys
[21:12] <glitsj16> Guest57527: didn't say you cannot, just that it would defeat the whole purpose of gnome-shell if you tried
[21:13] <^Mike> The contents of $HOME appear on my desktop. I'd like to remove that stuff, but if I nuke the icons on the desktop, it affects the stuff in $HOME. How do I make unity use a separate $HOME/Desktop directory for the desktop instead? Simply creating one didn't work - the folder simply appears on the desktop
[21:13] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: sudo is system setting works fine
[21:13] <james-> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/KZswZVNQ
[21:13] <^Mike> pahWee40owa
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> so is your issue gone?
[21:13] <^Mike> fdsa
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> james-: i see it now :P
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sudo rm /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sudo mv /etc/acpi/brightness-up2.sh /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> james-: sudo chmod +x /etc/acpi/brightness-up.sh
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> james-: text again
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> test*
[21:15] <james-> hitsujiTMO,  YESSS!!!
[21:15] <james-> hitsujiTMO,  IT WORKS!
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | james-
[21:16] <james-> hitsujiTMO, you are awesome thanks so much for all your time today your the best.
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> james-: no problem at all
[21:17] <Bray90820_> hitsujiTMO: i now can install software and update the system thanks
[21:18] <james-> hitsujiTMO, is it ok for me to remove the brightness-up.sh and brightness-down.sh files from my desktop?
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> james-: yup they aren't being used anymore
[21:18] <Bray90820_> Altho no username/computer name shows up in the terminal
[21:18] <tonito> hello someone you known how change the window login?
[21:18] <james-> hitsujiTMO, this is so cool man, I been trying to figure this out for a while now it was driving me insane
[21:19] <james-> hitsujiTMO, Is there a way to create a system image like on Windows? Maybe something similar to a system image? Then if I ever have any issues I can just throw a few dvds in and have everything back how it is now?
[21:19] <tonito> i have ubuntu studio 12.04
[21:19] <hitsujiTMO> james-: i just wish manufacturers would standardise the acpi keys so it wouldn't be necessary for all this fiddling
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> james-: clonezilla is what all the kool kids use from what i hear
[21:20] <james-> hitsujiTMO, it is a lot of work, couldn't have done it without you. I have used Mint but wanted a change, and went for the latest Ubuntu because I like the way it looks and the feel of it
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: you need to change your shell to bash for that. sudo usermod -s /bin/bash admin
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820_: you'll need to relog for that change to take place
[21:21] <james-> hitsujiTMO, I don't know anywhere near enough about linux, i get confused everytime i try to do things myself. I am taking computer science classes and took a VERY basic linux class. Thanks I will write clonezilla down, thanks a lot your the best. have a good one!!
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> james-: your welcome
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> james-: you're welcome even
[21:26] <demophobia> I've now got a Netgear N600 WiFi Dual Band USB Adapter. sudo lshw -C network returns only the Ethernet interface, which I think implies that Ubuntu isn't "seeing" this new adapter plugged in. How do I get it going? Is there some driver disabled that I can enable?
[21:27] <demophobia> likewise, the network GUI does not show any wireless options (to enable or disable), suggesting it's not seeing this device ...
[21:29] <demophobia> seems i should search "ubuntu 12.04 netgear wnda3100"
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: pastebin lspci
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: pastebin lsusb     even
[21:30] <demophobia> put in the installation CD, it's named "WNDA3100v2", so i guess that's what i've got ...
[21:30] <demophobia> hitsujiTMO: what d'you mean 'pastbin'? search pastebin?
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: pastebin the output of: lsusb                                       as in: paste.ubuntu.com
[21:31] <demophobia> oh! sorry, thanks
[21:33] <[[a]> Greetings everyone & happy new year!. I have a question concerning the Ubuntu notifications ("freedesktop.Notifications.service"). I have been struggling for weeks to find something useful all over the internet talking about "how to customize notification", so I come up here; briefly I just want to add notifications about who has just connected to my local network (supposedly im the server), the only thing I know right now is : I need an arp watch and some r
[21:33] <demophobia> I'll have to type it manually (or upload a pic to flickr) -- the relevant line I think is obviously: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100V2 802.11abgn [Broadcom BCM4323], so it is seeing it ...
[21:33] <demophobia> hitsujiTMO: ^
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> !bcm | demophobia
[21:34] <demophobia> Thank you. :)
[21:36] <demophobia> Looks like I shouldn't have returned the other wireless adapter so soon. :(
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: broadcom can be a pain
[21:38] <demophobia> i thought it was a good sign that it was open source
[21:38] <demophobia> !sta
[21:40] <demophobia> this webpage is not very transparent ...
[21:40] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Some specific BCM chipsets are a pain. Waves to Broadcom.
[21:40] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: It's like Nvidia, in some details.
[21:41] <demophobia> e.g., what is STA? is the driver i need, brcmfmac, an STA driver or is it b43/b43legacy firmware? These questions are not answered by that webpage.
[21:41] <xpmrz> Hi everyone how can i buzz someone in IRC ?
[21:41]  * xpmrz ,,,
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> xpmrz: define ... buzz
[21:42] <xpmrz> ye
[21:42] <xpmrz> that orange word
[21:42] <xpmrz> how can i make that ?
[21:42] <xpmrz> sr i dont know how to describe
[21:42] <TJ-> demophobia: In the 802.11 wireless driver world, there are several configurations of wireless chipsets: "STAtion" for regular clients, "AP" for Infrastructure (Access Points), and Mesh for adhoc meshed networks
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> as in what happens when i say your name? xpmrz
[21:43] <xpmrz> yes
[21:43] <demophobia> xpmrz: it's something limechat does automatically in chat
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> xpmrz: thats generally reffered to as ping. just say someones name and usually their client will highlight it
[21:43] <gabe> yay, i got compiz installed
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> xpmrz: altho its not to be confused with /ping
[21:44] <xpmrz> oh
[21:44] <xpmrz> hitsujiTMO
[21:44] <xpmrz> did u see the highlight ?
[21:45] <demophobia> well, how do i know if my chipset, BCM4323, is STA? ...
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> yup
[21:45] <xpmrz> oh
[21:45] <xpmrz> thanks
[21:45] <demophobia> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 & http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211#Broadcom_brcmfmac_driver i guess answers that
[21:45] <xpmrz> much
[21:45] <demophobia> it must not be b43 if the driver doesn't support PCI
[21:45] <xpmrz> Didnt u troll me ? ;)
[21:46] <xpmrz> i dont think that is too easy
[21:46] <xpmrz> demophobia
[21:46] <xpmrz> aegis
[21:46] <xpmrz> apw
[21:46] <aegis> Yes
[21:46] <xpmrz> oh
[21:46] <xpmrz> ok
[21:46] <xpmrz> Im just testing
[21:46] <aegis> testing what?
[21:47] <TJ-> demom: You need the STA version, because you want a regular wireless client. The chipset can do any mode the firmware loaded into it is capable of. But there's no point loading the AP code into a chip that isn't going to be an Access Point, so they give a choice
[21:47] <xpmrz> Whether yourname is highlighted when i type your name
[21:47] <xpmrz> sr :)
[21:47]  * demophobia reads https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access
[21:48] <xpmrz> ok thank hitsuju
[21:48] <aegis> lol
[21:50] <xpmrz> i wonder if i change my nickname to "and, or, be, ..." or some thing i would be called all day
[21:52] <frank__> Ein schönes neues Jahr wünsche ich Euch :-)
[21:52] <demophobia> Instead of /cdrom I'm using a USB install medium; where would I navigate to for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access to follow the directions?
[21:53] <demophobia> I've plugged in the USB drive but no folder has appeared on the desktop. :(
[21:55] <demophobia> My USB install medium is listed as Bus 001 Device 012: ID 0781:5576 SanDisk Corp.
[21:56] <gabe> hi
[21:57] <gabe> hi
[21:57] <gabe> is anyone there?
[21:57] <demophobia> yes
[21:59] <Robipo> hi, how do I make a persistent « ifconfig wlan0 down » so that my wifi isn't turned on at startup?
[22:02] <andyfied> I WISH I COULD HELP YOU GUYS
[22:02] <andyfied> whoopes
[22:02] <andyfied> this channel is likely to be quiet given the time and date
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Robipo: how exactly are you configuring the wlan0?
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Robipo: network manatger?
[22:04] <hexabit_m> Happy new year from Sweden! :)
[22:05] <andyfied> hej
[22:05] <Robipo> well i don't  want to configure it, just make it so it doens't get started at startup, i could make a script to do a ifconfig wlan0 down at startup, but i'd rather it not being set up in the first place if possible.
[22:06] <hexabit_m> Hej! :)
[22:06] <andyfied> hexabit_m: i know some swedes :)
[22:06] <OerHeks> Robipo, enable 'for all users' in networkmanager
[22:06] <Robipo> it's midnight in sweden ?
[22:06] <andyfied> it's 22.06GMT so i guess so
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> Robipo: as in you don't want the wifi to be powered on? or not auto connect to a specific network?
[22:07] <Robipo> not powered on, like i don't have any wireless card
[22:07] <Robipo> (i'm going to use only ethernet)
[22:08] <demophobia> Happy New Year, hexabit_m! and Merry Christmas!
[22:08] <Robipo> happy new year for those in GMT+2 :D
[22:09] <OerHeks> Robipo, there is a hoax going on, as ubunu stores the wifipass unencrypted when the network is shared for any user, but any linux version does that
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> Robipo: i think you want rfkill then not ifconfig down
[22:10] <TJ-> Robipo: You could blacklist the kernel module that drives it, or use rfkill
[22:15] <den_> #pirateradio
[22:18] <den_> #wunclub
[22:18] <Robipo> hm, rfkill isn't persistent, wlan0 is back up again in ifconfig after a reboot (I tried a rfkill block wlan)
[22:18] <den_> \#wunclub
[22:18] <den_> join #wunclub
[22:19] <Robipo> which is better? « rfkill block wlan » script at startup or « ifconfig wlan0 down » script at startup? or is there a way to do it persistently?
[22:20] <TJ-> Robipo: You'd need to add the "rfkill ..." command to the file "/etc/rc.local" ... ensuring you put it *before* the "exit 0" command in that file, as per the comments in that file
[22:20] <glitsj16> Robipo: can you turn wireless off in BIOS?
[22:21] <Robipo> good idea glitsj16, I haven't checked that yet, gonna do
[22:25] <kgalahassa> Someone to help please: I have a list of words in a text file, each word on a line, but I wanna extract to another file all words starting by 'r-cran' (a sequence)
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> kgalahassa: thats ot here. you should join a channel for the specific language you are using
[22:27] <kgalahassa> hitsujiTMO, I'm on ubuntu 12.10, and perhaps command line can help
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> kgalahassa: its a programming topic. #bash would be a good place to start
[22:28] <andyfied> i would think command line would be best to do
[22:29] <kgalahassa> join #bash
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> newdave might want to fix your connection
[22:36] <Robipo> oh well, cant disable wifi with bios
[22:36] <CiscoNinja> hello everyone, if i did "apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client" how can i remove it , like it was never installed before. i am running 13.04. thankyou
[22:37] <nweljq> CiscoNinja, apt-get purge mysql-server mysql-client
[22:38] <saruman_> can you use any word value for an 'emits' stanza and then use it as an event identifier in a 'starts on' stanza ? so if i wanted to modify mysql.conf and add emits mysql, would i then be able to use that in a different .conf as starts on mysql ?
[22:38] <CiscoNinja> nweljq, thank you sir
[22:39] <MouseTheLuckyDog> I'm trying to install ubuntu and it keeps crapping out on me during partition set up. My drive is already partitioned. Is there a way I could pass a file to the install program telling it what I want where?
[22:41] <Robipo> well, I used TJ- 's solution, seems to work, thanks (:
[22:42] <Beldar> MouseTheLuckyDog, use the manual install.
[22:43] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Beldar by manual isntall you mean check "install manually" ( or whatever ) when it asks about partitions? That's what I do and it just exits. I would like to pass it a list of partitions and what goes where.
[22:44] <Beldar> MouseTheLuckyDog, The manual install is the something else option, does this makes sense?
[22:44] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Ok.
[22:45] <Beldar> MouseTheLuckyDog, You can make or remove any partition there
[22:46] <lickalott> hey guys, so i just had an odd thing happen...  I was trying to see if there were any "additional drivers" for my nic and while I was in the window I noticed that my video card drivers weren't enabled.  I activated one of the latest ones, rebooted and now I can't get X to work.  Is there a way to revert back to the older driver?  it's either attempt to fix or reload at this point, which ever
[22:46] <lickalott> is less hassle.
[22:48] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Beldar, like I said before it keeps crapping out when I try to make or remove a partition.
[22:49] <Beldar> MouseTheLuckyDog, lets get some detail here, op[en gparted and take a screen shot of the HD and imagebin it then, describe the end goal.
[22:50] <jhutchins> lickalott: Rather obviously, if you uninstall whatever package you installed this should revert the system.
[22:50] <andyfied> MouseTheLuckyDog: when you say it is crapping out, what do you mean? the computer freezes when it try to partition?
[22:50] <MouseTheLuckyDog> No it just exits the install program -- very silently.
[22:51] <m4b`> hello; I am setting up an ssh server; i am running ubuntu 12.04 server; i have a static ip setup on the server 192.168.1.50, openssh installed, sshd_config set for port 22222; portforwarding rules are setup on my router; i can ssh into the machine from my laptop on the lan; i can even ssh into my laptop from an outside ip (using port 22221); but i can't seem to ssh into the server from an outside ip; i'm stuck now, and can't seem to
[22:51] <m4b`> figure out what is wrong;
[22:51] <lickalott> jhutchins, I ran the package fixer tool from "repair" thinking that would maybe help.  I can't remember what the package names were.
[22:52] <jeffrey_f> kgalahassa:  cat yourfile | grep ^r-cran >IntoNewFile
[22:52] <jeffrey_f> This will find lines beginning with and place them into another file
[22:53] <Beldar> MouseTheLuckyDog, Let me reiterate the word "details" we have virtually none so far.
[22:54] <jhutchins> lickalott: Wouldn't it be neat if there were a file where programs wrote timestamped entries of significant changes in the system?  It would almost be like you taking notes so you could fix things when they break.
[22:55] <lickalott> jhutchins, I'm picking up your sarcasm, and I like it!
[22:55] <lickalott> sometimes it just takes a swift kick in the patootie
[22:57] <m4b`> nobody? :(
[22:57] <jhutchins> lickalott: Sorry, been reading some stuff that has that effect on me.  /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:57] <jhutchins> m4b`: So it's like the port forwarding isn't working?
[22:57] <lickalott> no man... i'm with you.  I just needed the smack against the head.  I'm multi-tasking and need to focus.  That really was a rookie question on my part.
[22:58] <jnoob22> happens to the best of us.
[22:58] <jnoob22> and the worst.
[22:58] <m4b`> jhutchins: it seems like it isn't; but i have two identical rules in the router, except one forwards to 22221 (my laptop, on 192.168.1.4) and the other to 22222 (the server, on 192.168.1.50); i can ssh into the laptop from wan, but not the server; could a static ip on the server be a problem?
[22:59] <m4b`> i've statically given 192.168.1.50 to the server; but 192.168.1.4 was obtained through dhcp, and then for testing i just used that ip for portforwarding in the router rules
[23:00] <Robipo> happy new year GMT+2!
[23:05] <RandomCake> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu desktop within VirtualBox, I've just re-sized the disk with the VBox command line tools, booted an Ubuntu live DVD, expanded the extended partition, and then the logical volume, then rebooted into my installed Ubuntu OS, gparted shows that the LV is the new size, df shows that it is the old size, what can I do to figure out the problem?
[23:07] <dariuss> wouldn't you need to resize your filesystem?
[23:08] <dariuss> resize2fs or whatever matches your filesystem type
[23:08] <RandomCake> ah, so that's separate from resizing the partition?
[23:08] <TJ-> RandomCake: With the file-system unmounted "sudo resize2fs /dev/mapper/$VG-$LV"
[23:08] <RandomCake> I'll look at that now :-)
[23:08] <dariuss> yes, unless you're using something like zfs
[23:08] <TJ-> RandomCake: Or, if it is an ext4 and a recent Ubuntu... it'll do an online resize whilst still mounted
[23:09] <RandomCake> It says "lvm2 pv" in GParted
[23:10] <dariuss> resize at the filesystem layer
[23:13] <m4b`> also, does anyone know where the console keymaps are stored? i want to swap caps lock with control, but only for console (no x server); on some other distros one just edits the us.map.gz file but not sure where it's located on ubuntu
[23:14] <roots9> anyone on?
[23:15] <Robipo> !
[23:21] <andyfied> i'm here but don't know much
[23:22] <roots9> how do i become root?
[23:22] <Beldar> roots9, why do you want to?
[23:23] <roots9> Beldar i won't share that info with you
[23:23] <Beldar> roots9, Then you wont get much help here.
[23:23] <andyfied> you become root with the root password
[23:23] <Beldar> andyfied, there is no root password
[23:24] <Ben64> !root | roots9
[23:24] <roots9> ok
[23:24] <roots9> so you won't help unless i use sudo
[23:25] <qin> roots9: man sudo; sudo -i; if you did not know it you should not be root
[23:27] <Mindspank> I suck with linux, and the first thing I learned was sudo.
[23:27] <roots9> qin i knew that ty, yet i asked another think
[23:27] <xangua> !noroot | roots9
[23:27] <Beldar> roots9, It's not that you will get no help, it is that we just want to make sure you are doing this correctly within ubuntu's design, so some details are helpful here.
[23:28] <Beldar> ubuntu is not debian being root has different attributes.
[23:28] <qin> roots9: feel deluded, what did you asked? 00:22 <          roots9 > how do i become root?
[23:29] <irated> how do you make it so that nfs mount will be skipped if its not available on boot?
[23:29] <roots9> finally someone on the page
[23:29] <roots9> Beldar - root has different attributes
[23:30] <Beldar> roots9, and there are differentials per OS's
[23:31] <roots9> last time i used a red hat in 2003
[23:31] <Beldar> roots9, ubuntu is not designed to be run in root, except in specific situations, so your not answering any real relevant questions is pointless.
[23:38] <RandomCake>  and for those specific situations, you probably want to do something like sudo -s
[23:39] <roots9> i love Cake
[23:40] <Nblg> http://bit.ly/1hTk9Qb
[23:41] <qin> how would you feed something like: ehco $RANDOM to history in case you were root, !`echo $RENDOM` fails.
[23:42] <RandomCake> you doesn't love Cake roots9?
[23:42] <roots9> i don't like cookies unless they are from space
[23:50] <infinitux> I've had this problem for some time (if somebody could help it would be awesome): I end up having file dialogs and different types of windows opening on the wrong monitor(the tv) instead of my desktop that I'm on and its annoying. Is there some app(that works with unity) I can use to see what windows are open on the tv monitor because its off and don't want to change video modes.
[23:52] <sid_> What is the safest kernel after ubuntu 12.04's 3.2.0-57 ?
[23:52] <irated> um...
[23:52] <irated> how do you disable an upstart job
[23:52] <irated> proper way?
[23:54] <trism> irated: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/jobname.override; to disable /etc/init/jobname.conf from autostarting
[23:59] <glitsj16> infinitux: don't know about any GUI apps, but wmctrl -l might do the job