[00:18] <Unit193> bluesabre: Still no asterisks with the new greeter.
[02:20] <Noskcaj> FYI: I update the hicolor-icon-theme in debian yesterday, it now supports 512x size icons.
[08:46] <elfy> Travis: so what's up then - if I can help I will
[08:47] <Travis> I see some oddball writing in some of the icon text.  I can't make it out
[08:47] <Travis> Looks Asian, to me.
[08:47] <Travis> or upside down Arabic.
[08:47]  * Unit193 doesn't think the Language took.
[08:48] <Travis> Am trying to make a live USB stick, but can't find out how to do it in the live version of 14.04
[08:48]  * elfy doesn't either
[08:48] <Unit193> dd?
[08:48] <elfy> Travis: I always use unetbootin 
[08:48] <Travis> oh really now?
[08:49] <Travis> I have used it once or twice, but Xubuntu is supposed to have a way to do it.
[08:49] <elfy> I never use the ubuntu thing - that has never ever worked for me
[08:50] <elfy> xubuntu has the ubuntu one I thought
[08:51] <Travis> well, if 14.04 has it, due to the language issue, it's hard to find.
[14:07] <bluesabre> Unit193: yeah, somebody figured out the issue, I'll fix that today
[15:27] <ochosi> happy new year evryone
[15:27] <pleia2> happy new year :)
[16:05] <brainwash> Unit193: help! we got bug 1245585 and bug 1259525
[16:05] <brainwash> the first one is basically a duplicate of the second one, or?
[16:06] <brainwash> ochosi: happy new year.. and now back to work :P
[16:10] <brainwash> ochosi: I got used to the new black terminal icon, should we still bother about it? do you think, that a change or small adjustments are needed to make it more "visible" on the black panel in Xubuntu?
[17:03] <forestpiskie> brainwash: just because you've got used to it - doesn't make any difference to it being a black icon on a black panel and still being hard to see for people other than you ;)
[17:04] <forestpiskie> quite frankly the idea of a black icon on a black panel not making people think twice is something I'm not going to comment on
[17:13] <pleia2> I haven't kept up with the backlog so y'all can laugh at me for not keeping up, but what's with the xubuntu desktop background and stuff not being applied?
[17:14] <pleia2> I assume someone is working on this, any ETA on fixing?
[17:16] <forestpiskie> pleia2: afaik it's in sponsor queue
[17:16] <pleia2> forestpiskie: cool, thanks :)
[17:17] <forestpiskie> or at least that was the last thing I understood about it
[17:17]  * pleia2 nods
[17:17] <forestpiskie> well - flying through - have a good new year everyone - see you in 2014
[17:20] <pleia2> happy new year :)
[17:37] <ali1234> why does libreoffice appear completely unthemed in xubuntu?
[17:39] <brainwash> ali1234: maybe the package libreoffice-gtk isn't installed
[17:39] <ali1234> bingo
[17:40] <ali1234> i only installed calc
[17:40] <ali1234> is there some metapackage that will install everything i need?
[17:43] <brainwash> libreoffice does recommend libreoffice-gnome which depends on libreoffice-gtk
[17:44] <brainwash> now I'm curious if libreoffice-gtk3 actually works
[18:22] <Unit193> brainwash: Great!
[18:22] <Unit193> bluesabre: ^
[18:23] <Unit193> brainwash: I don't see it being so, 13.10 shouldn't have the sam eproblem.
[19:23] <bluesabre> Unit193: ?
[19:24] <Unit193> (I need to use more than one letter to tabcomplete) Was saying that the bug being found is great.
[19:25] <bluesabre> which bug? (sorry)
[19:25] <bluesabre> whoa
[19:25] <bluesabre> debian 7 xfce ships with vlc as the default media player
[19:26] <Unit193> Greeter password prompt.  I wonder how Debian "ships" with anything. ;)
[19:26] <bluesabre> debian xfce live cd
[19:27] <bluesabre> from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/
[19:28] <Unit193> Ah, yeah.  I never use stable, always using the netinst.
[19:38] <brainwash> Unit193: live mode 13.10 -> auto login works fine, but after first logout the language is set to bangla, not sure about the session
[19:38] <brainwash> so this problem did appear in 13.10, but less noticeable
[19:40] <brainwash> the lightdm.conf.d thingy has been introduced in saucy
[19:45] <brainwash> and here is my favorite launchpad comment of 2013..
[19:45] <brainwash> "That's not an indicator-messages issue, xfce needs to start using gtk3..." - seb128
[20:32] <andrzejr> regarding language settings, I have some problems with IBus+keyboard indicator on 13.10+gtk3 indicators.
[20:34] <andrzejr> IBus switcher works fine (but it is displayed in the systray). Keyboard selection does not seem to do anything when I switch it via menu and it does not react to <meta>+space when switching input method via shortcuts.
[20:41] <Noskcaj> What was the final decision for what 4.11 parts we wanted?
[20:49] <brainwash> Noskcaj: only xfdesktop and the components which are required for the gtk3 indicators to work, right?
[20:49] <brainwash> to minimize the risk
[20:49] <Noskcaj> Think so, plus setting 4.11.1
[20:49] <Noskcaj> since we already have 4.11
[20:50] <Noskcaj> And can more people add testimonials at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj#Testimonials ? I've started to apply by email, so i should get MOTU soon if i'm deemed good enough
[20:51] <brainwash> and we would need to backport some xfwm4 patches to enable the smooth background transition on session login
[20:52] <brainwash> I'm just a random user, so not sure if I can help you with this
[20:53] <brainwash> Noskcaj: is backporting of some xfwm4 4.11.x patches ok?
[20:54] <Noskcaj> brainwash, I'd support the idea, i'm not involved with upstream enough to make the final decision
[20:56] <brainwash> what about other xfce4 components like xfce4-terminal? 0.6.3 has been release recently
[20:57] <brainwash> will they make it into trusty?
[20:59] <Unit193> Debian already has the terminal, just would need to be sync'd.
[21:01] <Unit193> It'd be autosync'd if Ubuntu/Xubuntu didn't have a patch in it (Scroll wheel for ncurses.)
[21:04] <brainwash> ok, so it will be upgraded eventually, if someone requests it
[21:07] <Unit193> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-terminal/trusty/view/head:/debian/patches/xubuntu_alternate-scroll.patch you see where it's Xubuntu only?
[21:15] <brainwash> you mean ubuntu specific?
[21:16] <brainwash> maybe it should be forwarded upstream
[21:17] <brainwash> it's a hidden setting after all
[21:18] <Noskcaj> Unit193, I've already merged terminal, just need a sponsor. 
[21:18] <Unit193> Yes, but it's not uploaded, soo.
[21:19] <Noskcaj> So ping micah a lot, because he can upload it, or wait till i get MOTU (which you could help with)
[21:21] <brainwash> how many testimonials do you need?
[21:26] <Noskcaj> brainwash, as many as possible. I got membership in 4 minutes because of how many i had for that.
[22:23] <forestpiskie> Noskcaj: I got around to doing th testimonial. 
[22:23] <Noskcaj> thanks forestpiskie 
[22:24] <forestpiskie> Noskcaj: I got around to doing th testimonial. 
[23:29] <forestpiskie> random user with opinion is better than random user ...