[14:41] <koell> whats the difference between mate and cinammon? its like xp vs 7, isn't it
[15:38] <Zara> bonjour et bonne annee
[15:39] <Zara> cmment faire pour changer le fond d ecrn du lock screen
[15:43] <koell> Zara: well, it's an english channel. you may find a french on too
[15:43] <Zara> ok
[15:44] <Zara> i want to change my lock screnn background
[15:44] <koell> Zara: isn't it the same as the desktop background?
[15:45] <Zara> yes
[22:08] <pvl1> koell1 good q
[22:09] <koell1> pvl1: huh?
[22:09] <koell1> pvl1: which querstion
[22:10] <pvl1> Im reading into the difference between mate and cinnamon
[22:11] <koell1> pvl1: which querstion did i ask? xD
[22:12] <pvl1> u asked what's the difference between mate and cinnamon? it's like xp vs 7, isn't it
[22:13] <koell1> pvl1: i remember, thx. yeah i just dont know why there needs to be another *buntu derivate. linux mint isnt that big diff
[22:18] <pvl1> well it's not a question of need, koell1. If u look at distro watch .com, ppl make their own derivs on what they think the system should be like.and that's why people forked gnome 2
[22:19] <pvl1> u can install either mate or cinnamon on just about any distro
[22:21] <ianorlin> thing is lubuntu has virtualbox so you can check out both mate and cinanmon before installing it
[22:21] <koell1> pvl1: sure its another ui, but the system itselft didnt really change. just pre-installed codecs is not very much. i dont understand why they didn't call it mubuntu instead of linux mint. weird
[22:21] <ianorlin> trademark stuff
[22:21] <ianorlin> would come into it
[22:22] <koell1> i would prefer another *buntu flavour instead of a 2nd level fork
[22:23] <pvl1> I agree, but ubuntu wants to conform to being strictly open source
[22:23] <koell1> pvl1: ah, thats the reason!
[22:23] <koell1> u got it
[22:24] <koell1> but mubuntu sounds great :D
[22:24] <pvl1> I agree,I like the sound
[22:26] <koell1> so say we all xD
[22:26] <koell1> so one could just fork linux mint and call it mubuntu pls
[22:53] <ianorlin> I thought trisequel is even more open
[22:54] <koell1> Is there an easy way to set my lubuntu back to default/out-of-the-box installation without reinstallation? xD
[22:54]  * ianorlin hopes you did not get rid of the shutdown icon on the panel
[22:55] <koell1> ianorlin: nooo! i like the style of lubuntu ;) but i've some weird bugs i dont want to waste my time for
[22:56] <ianorlin> are you talking about config files or packages added?
[22:58] <koell1> ianorlin: i dont know. tried so many different applications last week. now i think there r some things broken. for example the icons on my desktop: they dont save their position after restart. also the lxsession settings: try to choose autostart apps like xfce4-power-manager didn't work, some icons r twice in the panel. baaaaaahhh
[22:59] <ianorlin> to remove stuff twice in the panel right click where apps are on the panel and remove the duplicates it has internet and pcmanfm to start
[23:00] <ianorlin> also right click on the panel for panel settings and click loaded applets
[23:01] <ianorlin> if your panel ir really messed up can you give a screenshot
[23:01] <koell1> i triead but then both are hidden. ;)
[23:01] <ianorlin> are you using lxpanel?
[23:02] <koell1> ianorlin: it isnt messed up now, but i tried to edit the autostart settings because i would like power manager and dropbox start. i dont know what it looks like the next time i restart my notebook xD
[23:02] <koell1> ianorlin: im using lubuntu always in its default design and behaviour, yeah.
[23:03] <ianorlin> it is installed to hard disk right?
[23:03] <koell1> ianorlin: sure
[23:04] <koell1> ianorlin: can u also send me the default sources.list of lubuntu? i think mine looks really crap :D
[23:09] <koell> ianorlin: im sorry my intersucks suck :D