[08:46] DanChapman: Howdy. [08:46] Howdy Unit193, and happy new year :-) [08:47] Happy new year indeed. [17:03] If I suspend by the log out dialog or by Action buttons, xflock4 is not called. What code is used, instead? What code xfce4-power-manager uses to lock? [17:08] xflock4 is used if you tell xfce4-settings to do so [17:10] jarnos: settings > session and startup > last tab [17:34] brainwash, I see. However, if gnome-screensaver daemon is running, screen will be locked by it, if you have decided not to lock before sleep in settings. [17:34] so? that's not a Xfce issue [17:35] you need to configure gnome-screensaver [17:37] brainwash, I don't see how you could do it. [17:37] usually via dconf [18:00] brainwash, but if you suspend using xfce4-power-manager, and you have chosen in its preferences not to lock, it won't lock even if gnome-screensaver daemon is running. [18:57] jarnos: so it does not suspend via logind and calls upower directly I would assume [19:00] so what is the actual problem? xubuntu does not ship with gnome-screensaver [19:01] if you encounter the same issue with light-locker (fork of gnome-screensaver), please file a bug report on launchpad [19:12] brainwash, is Xubuntu T going to be using light-locker in xflock4 ? [19:12] jarnos: yes [19:13] patch for xflock4 does already exist, but the branch needs to be merged [19:14] brainwash, is the script going to be changed for xfce, too, or just xubuntu? [19:14] you mean upstream? [19:14] brainwash, yes [19:15] don't know [19:16] brainwash, light-locker depends on lightdm, but I guess xfce can be used with other display managers, as well. [19:17] brainwash, where can I see the patch for xflock4? [19:19] xflock4 simply tries to trigger known screen locker, and light-locker is kinda new [19:20] jarnos: bug 1254366 [19:20] bug 1254366 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "Add support for light-locker in xflock4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1254366 [19:24] brainwash, thanks, I have been working on a patch for xflock4 in upstream, and I could try to take that into account. [19:26] sounds great :) [19:29] gottcode: hey, I've noticed something strange after upgrading to whisker menu 1.3, editing or changing .desktop files somehow crashes the panel plugin [19:30] it happened while I was editing one file via text editor and also while apt-get was applying package updates [19:31] I'll try to get some debugging information later === Punna is now known as Pwnna [20:31] i'm back. [20:31] had a nasty stomach illness meanwhile, i hope you all were at least a bit better... [20:37] brainwash: I will look into that shortly [20:52] I have been trying light-locker in Saucy using this PPA: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/lightdm-session-locker-light-locker.html [21:03] I wonder, if there is some purpose in the light-locker daemon, which does not run on background btw. "light-locker-command -l" seems to work regardless of the daemon. [21:05] Whereas "gnome-screensaver-command --lock" starts its respective daemon, if one is not running. [21:12] jarnos_: the daemon locks the session on suspend [21:12] when suspend is triggered via logind [21:13] and it also allows timed locking (after 10min) [21:14] this feature requires a recent version of light-locker [21:15] brainwash, Do you mean it will lock screen only if you resume from suspend after e.g. 10 min? [21:17] the daemon locks the screen on suspend OR after 10min of inactivity (according to the screen saver extension of the X server) [21:22] brainwash, oh, I see. I think xflock4 should then check, if the daemon is running, and use "light-locker-command -l "only then. I am going to address this in the bug report. [22:49] brainwash, now, there it is: bug 1254366 [22:49] bug 1254366 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "Add support for light-locker in xflock4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1254366 [23:13] jarnos_: ok, I'll test it as soon as I get access to my test system [23:13] brainwash, good [23:14] currently everything is going slow, so it might take some time until the changes actually land in trusty [23:55] brainwash, so I have not yet tested light-locker in trusty, but I think it is the same version as in the PPA I have been using. In short tests I have seen at least to issues: [23:56] brainwash, light-locker cannot fork, i.e. "light-locker" runs just as "light-locker --no-daemon" [23:56] brainwash, if I lock by it and change to different tty and back, desktop is shown short time. [23:57] Can anyone comfirm these in trusty? [23:59] Not much issues reported, yet: https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/issues [23:59] * jarnos_ goes to sleep.