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Juv1228hi, I am using xubuntu 13.10 on a new machine here and when I try to take a screenshot, with either xfce4-screenshooter or shutter, it 'lags'00:19
Juv1228the entire xfce environment slows to a crawl, and if I wait a few minutes  the screenshot completes fine.00:20
Juv1228if I switch VT's (ctrl-alt-f1 then back to f7) it stops in the middle of the screenshot and I end up with something like this00:21
Juv1228http://i.imgur.com/KjqXKSm.png00:22
Juv1228where ever it was in the process of screenshotting, it just tiles that bit to fill the rest00:22
Juv1228so the longer I wait, the more complete the image is00:22
Juv1228has anyone ever seen this before? its rather bizarre to me00:22
GridCubeJuv1228, try using scrot00:23
GridCubei've seen this issue with my second monitor when its not on00:23
Juv1228no shit, scrot works perfectly00:24
Juv1228has a bug report been filed about this?00:24
Juv1228at least i can screenshot now, but the nice thing about shutter/xfce4-screenshooter is you can just pick a window/region00:25
Juv1228I guess scrot can do this too actually00:27
GridCubeyou can save the image and then crop it with gthumb00:33
Juv1228GridCube, i probably should have read the scrot manpage, since it has -s flag which does interactive region selection00:36
GridCubeoh00:46
GridCubegood :D00:46
xubuntu789hello00:56
xubuntu789does xubuntu has privacy setting,I am worry about this00:56
bekksxubuntu789: Which "privacy setting" do you mean in detail?00:57
Sh1G3rUwhat kind? internet traces , logs00:57
xubuntu789yes00:57
bekksxubuntu789: "yes" is not a valid answer to "what..." :)00:58
Sh1G3rUxubuntu789, internet traces are mostly those left behind by your broser00:58
Sh1G3rUbrowser*00:58
Sh1G3rUi would set firefox to permamently stay in private mode for starter00:59
Sh1G3rUthen the system logs, accesses etc00:59
xubuntu789ubuntu has a privacy setting in system setting01:00
xubuntu789but01:00
xubuntu789 I01:00
xubuntu789 dont find in xubuntu01:00
Sh1G3rUxubuntu789, ubuntu and unity have another aproach to things for starting you recieve ads directly to your desktop while in xfce you dont01:01
Sh1G3rUhi ObrienDave01:02
xubuntu789I just want to be monitored when I use my computer01:02
xubuntu789dont want01:02
Sh1G3rUthen you are in the right place with xubuntu01:02
Sh1G3rUactivate ufw01:02
bekksxubuntu789: Monitored by whom?01:03
bekksxubuntu789: your ISP will always know what you are doing.01:03
Sh1G3rUunless you use a VPN01:03
xubuntu789canonical company01:03
bekksxubuntu789: Even in Ubuntu Canonical has no clue what you are doing.01:04
Sh1G3rUObrienDave,  are you still having internet issues?01:05
xubuntu789Thanks,I have no questions01:07
ObrienDaveSh1G3rU, howdy, happy new year01:11
Sh1G3rUhappy new year ObrienDave01:11
Sh1G3rUiv been into 2014 for 2 hours now :p01:12
ObrienDaveyes, big time01:17
Sh1G3rUObrienDave, finally you net seem stable01:37
ObrienDaveam i still here?02:09
glenrocki installed the Faenza icon theme from source and the user-available.png icon for Pidgin isn't working.  any idea how to go about resolving that?   i see the icon in the status/16 folder, but the normal pidgin logo only appears in the notification area02:43
xubuntu786HAPPY NEW YEARS03:23
xubuntu786i'm gaii03:23
SonikkuAmericaUh... OK, Happy 2014...03:27
uBUXUBuhappy new years xubuntites03:51
uBUXUButhank u03:51
SonikkuAmerica...03:52
SonikkuAmericaDid you just answer... yourself?03:52
cfhowlettLOL03:53
vespertiliohi there13:47
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YammerI love xubuntu!15:27
koelli love lubuntu!15:27
YammerWell, some of us have to be diffrent I guess :P15:27
koellThe L is for lightweight :P15:28
Yammerlol, xfce isn't so heavy,.but yeah lxde is lighter15:28
beginnerafter i entering my encryption password, xubuntu fail to boot. I get initramfs console. Same with recovery mode. Where i need to begin in order to fix15:29
koellYammer: i need to test xfce before. but there are some xfce elements in lubuntu too such as the power manager15:29
Yammerkoell: That's the nice thing about linux, you aren't locked into on DE, and your fav apps for one will run in other DE's15:30
YammerMostly15:31
koellyeah mostly :D15:31
koellYammer: first time here? i love those small channels with just a hundred people in15:32
YammerUnity... stinks15:32
Yammerkoell: Not really, I've been here before. I am just not a huge IRC fan.15:32
beginneranyone ?15:33
YammerSorry beginner, I am just an end user15:33
YammerYou might want to try the main Ubuntu chat, the only diff is that xubuntu has a diffrent DE15:34
koellbeginner: me too, just use the clicki-bunti as it is :D15:34
Sysikoell: a channel with several hunder people being small? try #xubuntu-offtopic15:34
koellSysi: still better than #debian or #ubuntu with 1k join/left msgs ;)15:36
Sysisure15:37
YammerWell my new install is almost done, see you on the flip side.15:40
koellIs there a GTK/QT-ish look n feal of Chromium/Chrome available? The default one looks so cross-platform terrible ugly, I dont want to use.15:44
holsteinkoell: i look in the settings for the browser, and i find options for using the system theme, or one custom in the browser17:17
xubuntu165Hey can someone tell me if  Xbuntu run Chrome or just Chromium?17:42
Sh1G3rUthey can both17:42
xubuntu165Cool, I was thinking about getting the Odroid17:43
xubuntu165it's basically the specs of a galaxy s 317:44
Sh1G3rUomg be careful with that it can cause seisures :P17:46
xubuntu165oh news to me17:47
Sysichrome probably won't run on arm hardware17:49
Sysiunless google compiles it on that too, I haven't checked17:49
xubuntu165oh ok thanks, i'll try to ask the odroid people17:51
Sysidownload page seems to only offer i686/amd6417:51
Sysieven if you're big fan of the pdf reader in chrome, flash is gonna be bigger problem, on all browsers17:52
holsteinyou would ask "the chrome people" to make a version for the device/arch.. you cant ask the device to become compatible17:52
xubuntu165oh ok17:53
Sh1G3rUis there any petition we can sign in to stop flash from raging. i believe we can reach 7 billions signs in few minutes17:53
Sysitry to get people to contribute to shumway rather17:55
Sh1G3rUwhats shumway?17:55
Sysihttp://mozilla.github.io/shumway/17:56
raydufwhy montreal  second city of  canada is not in time zone17:57
holsteinrayduf: you pick the timezone.. there should be other places that reflect that timezone17:58
raydufno  sorry  check  all over17:58
holsteinrayduf: you pick a city in the same tz.. there is no localization going on there17:59
raydufon 1st install it  gave me  toronto   which  is  1 h diff18:00
raydufim in  montreal  area18:00
holsteinrayduf: manually select what works for you.. you can set this later, as well18:00
raydufyes  but  no  montreal  even  after18:01
Sh1G3rUmotreal is there18:01
Sh1G3rUit gave you by default toronto because probably your ip belongs to some toronto isp18:01
holsteinshould be.. i use new york city, though im 600 miles from there18:02
Sh1G3rUand thats how it defines where you are18:02
raydufmotreal   or  montreal18:02
raydufi know  ny  is  on same  time zone18:02
holsteinrayduf: choose one based on the tz.. the city is not important there18:02
rayduffine  but  ubuntu  giver it  to me  auto18:03
holsteinrayduf: xubuntu *is* ubuntu18:03
raydufsomebody   just  forget it   admit  it18:04
holsteinrayduf: could be a different IP now18:04
raydufwhere is  time zone in xubuntu18:05
holsteinrayduf: during the install?18:05
raydufafter  install18:05
holsteinthese ways are more generic, and should work on most linux distros http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux ..this looks like what i would expect in xubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/232592/xubuntu-12-04-wrong-time-change-system-language18:07
raydufthx holstein18:08
user23213can somebody help ? xubuntu fail to boot. I get initramfs console. Dont know what happening, what i need to do first ?19:05
user23213to fix this ?19:05
holsteinuser23213: i would test the hardware19:05
user23213hardware is ok, im using pc now. on live usb...19:06
holsteinuser23213: if you are on the live USB, then, you can test the hard drive properly from there19:06
user23213how to do that ?19:07
user23213you mean with fsck ?19:07
holsteinuser23213: i use "gsmartcontrol" to run at least a short test19:07
holsteinuser23213: fsck is a different tool19:08
user23213yeah, i know. i was thinking maybe i need to check filesystem19:08
user23213you talking about checking hdd for bad sectors or what ?19:09
holsteinuser23213: i would test the physical hard drive.. then, run a filesystem check/test.. then, consider replacing the parts if needed, or reinstall if necessary19:09
holsteinuser23213: im talking about checking the hardware.. for whatever may be bad19:09
user23213ok19:10
user23213i will look at that19:10
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Guest67302is there anyone who could help me resolving my screen resolution problems in Xubuntu?22:22
knomeGuest67302, ask away and we'll see if somebody is able to answer22:23
koell1i'll try my best22:23
Guest67302the problem is that i have a laptop22:23
Guest67302and xubuntu sees my laptop monitor as a default22:23
knomeif *that's* the problem, i'll take the laptop and you're good ;)22:24
Guest67302so i am able to set 1024x768 resolution instead of 1440x90022:24
Guest67302well, is there any way that you could guide me through changing this?22:25
Guest67302sorry for my english22:25
knomeare you trying to use an external monitor?22:25
knomeor just can't set the laptop monitor to the full resolution?22:25
Guest67302i cant set 1440x900 instead of 1024x76822:26
Guest67302but when i connected external monitor it didnt work anyway22:26
Guest67302i mean thats not the biggest issue right now22:26
Guest67302if there is some way i could set this higher resolution22:26
Guest67302that would save me22:26
Guest67302i tried couple different distros22:27
Guest67302neither of them work22:27
Guest67302would like to stay with xubuntu22:27
koell1usually this should work out of the box22:27
Guest67302in windows that problem do not exist cause there are drivers only for windows22:28
Guest67302maybe that's the case22:28
koell1Guest67302: whants the name of your laptop? you may find others with the same problem in forums22:28
Guest67302i tried22:28
Guest67302it's been like half a year i have this problem22:28
koell1omg this sucks22:28
Guest67302is there any way i could force linux to use some resolution or sth?22:29
holsteinGuest67302: what hardware do you have?22:29
Guest67302i have found a solution for my graphic card written especially for xubuntu on this site22:31
Guest67302https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/sis22:31
Guest67302but when i followed the guide22:31
Guest67302and restarted pc22:31
Guest67302xorg crashed22:31
holsteinGuest67302: what hardware to you have?22:31
holsteinGuest67302: an sis card?22:31
Guest67302tell me command so i can paste it to you22:31
Guest67302yes22:31
holsteinGuest67302: i have one sis chip... i just dont use it anymore22:32
holsteinGuest67302: these days, hardware is so resonable, i usually just try and purchase with linux support in mind22:32
holsteinGuest67302: that doesnt mean you can put a custom xorg.conf in place that may do what you are trying to do22:32
holsteinGuest67302: TBH, im surprised the external display port works at all.. on my via chip, it doesnt work at all22:33
holsteinGuest67302: the guide you reference is for 12.04.. are you using 12.04?22:33
Guest67302yes22:33
Guest67302i downloaded xubuntu especially for this22:34
Guest67302didnt work22:34
Guest67302and that was like couple months ago22:34
holsteinGuest67302: the guide states it will not workk anymore22:34
koell1you may try lubuntu :D22:34
holstein"Unfortunately you can't use this solution in main Ubuntu 12.04, because starting with 12.04.2 (second point release), main Ubuntu 12.04 no longer has the original kernel tree and X.org, which are required for this solution. "22:34
holsteinkoell1: lubuntu and xubuntu *are* ubuntu22:34
holsteinkoell1: no different driver support there22:34
holsteinyou are welcome to try lubuntu live, but the support will be the same22:34
Guest67302Xubuntu 12.04 and Lubuntu 12.04 still have the original kernel tree and X.org, and will never change that.22:35
Guest67302it stays that it will work on xubuntu and lubuntu22:35
koell1holstein: weird, because i switched 3 months ago from ubuntu to lubuntu because my thouchpad didn't work there anymore22:35
Guest67302but not ubuntu22:35
Guest67302well its not true anyway22:36
holsteinkoell1: its more likely ubuntu 12.04 didnt support it, and lubuntu 13.10 did..22:36
Guest67302cause when i tried this display just crashed22:36
holsteinGuest67302: they will have the same xorg versions in the repo22:36
Guest67302and i could only use text mode22:36
holsteinGuest67302: the point release is what is referenced there, and relevant22:36
holsteinGuest67302: from 12.04.2 on..22:36
holsteinGuest67302: *all* 12.04 versions will still have the older version22:37
Guest67302i tried newer version too22:37
Guest67302but problem was the same22:37
Guest67302so i decided to stay with the lts22:37
Guest67302anyway u guys have any idea what should i try to do?22:38
holsteinGuest67302: the *older* version is what you need22:38
Guest67302older then 12.04?22:38
holsteinGuest67302: i know nothing about that guide, but its asking for you to use 12.0422:38
Guest67302what for?22:38
holsteinGuest67302: *not* 12.04.*22:38
holsteinGuest67302: for the guide.. 12.04 is not the same as 12.04.2..22:38
Guest67302yeah and im using version which this guide is asking me for22:38
Guest67302what?22:39
holsteinGuest67302: if you have a currrently installed and up to date 12.04, then that is *not* the version22:39
Guest67302lol22:39
holsteinGuest67302: every 6 months 12.04 gets rev'd22:39
holsteinGuest67302: the original 12.04 is what is referenced in the guide.. not 12.04.newer22:40
holsteinand, im not saying that guide works22:40
Guest67302is there any way i can get this version?22:40
Guest67302shouldnt i downloaded uptades or sth?22:40
holsteinGuest67302: yes. you download it, and dont update22:40
Guest67302that seems weird22:40
holsteinGuest67302: yes.. i suggest applying updates, and not following this guide22:41
Guest67302well but that doesnt solve my problem22:41
holsteinGuest67302: but, if you want to use it, you'll need to follow it, by using the older version of 12.04, and not upgrading it22:41
Guest67302i will have lower resolution forever22:41
Guest67302its not like i want to use it22:41
Guest67302i just want to solve my problem22:41
Guest67302but i dont know how to set higher resolution22:41
holsteinGuest67302: and im not sure that this solves it, ether22:41
holsteineither*22:41
Guest67302i know that native resolution of this monitor is 1440x90022:42
Guest67302cause thats the res i had in windows22:42
holsteinGuest67302: thats not in debate..22:42
Guest67302and thats hat i want22:42
holsteinGuest67302: the vendor supports windows22:42
Guest67302u mean i cant do that?22:42
holsteinGuest67302: nothing about linux or xubuntu is preventing that.. but the vendor is not making that easy, and yes, it may not be possible22:43
Guest67302well u have any idea what should i do to try to change that?22:44
Guest67302any command which i can follow22:44
Guest67302i am not rly good with linux22:44
Guest67302but i think that a year writing in forums of all distros is when i can say ive had enough22:45
Guest67302just wanted to drive by and ask there22:45
Guest67302so there is no way?22:45
Guest67302or nothing you can think of right now?22:45
holsteinGuest67302: there can be no way, correct.. ideally, the vendor would provide a drive22:48
holsteindriver22:48
Guest67302well there is a driver22:48
holsteinGuest67302: you can also sometimes use a custom xorg.conf.. but, its not trivial22:48
Guest67302i just dont know how to install it22:49
holsteinGuest67302: sure.. but, i think its for a different operating sytem, correct?22:49
Guest67302nah i found a driver especially for linux22:49
Guest67302from sis22:49
holsteinGuest67302: if not, link the driver, and maybe someone can help.. ideally, the creator of the driver will help22:49
holsteinGuest67302: link the driver, friend22:49
Guest67302oh i just realised its intended for redhat22:51
Guest67302http://w3.sis.com/download/22:52
Guest67302linux, igp drivers, sis 750 series22:52
holsteinGuest67302: i see nothing for 75022:53
holsteinGuest67302: only 74022:53
holsteinGuest67302: 730 ad 74022:53
Guest67302how can i check mine with a command in xubuntu?22:54
holsteinGuest67302: i use lspci in a terminal22:54
Guest6730201:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)22:54
Guest67302which is exacly the one in this guide22:55
Guest67302https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/sis22:55
holsteinGuest67302: i see nothing available at the site for those #'s22:55
Guest67302that ones wont be compatible?22:55
holsteinGuest67302: you'd have to ask the folks who make it, but if it doesnt say "supports your device", then theres nothing that makes me think it would22:56
holsteini know, since i have prior experience with sis, i would just be glad its working..22:56
Guido1hello, I'm using seamnkey and firefox on xubuntu. some websits ask if it is allowed to get information about the location. if i say "yes" it doesn't work. if i use the same browsers on windows xp it works. so i assume that it has to do with xubuntu.23:06
holsteinwhat doesnt work, Guido1 ?23:06
Guido1holstein: If you for example visit the webside https://www.couchsurfing.org/ and you log in the webside wants to know the location of you (determined by the ip)23:08
Guido1in the browser I say that the webside may get this information, but the webside doesn't get the information23:08
Guido1if i use the same browser on windows XP it works23:08

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