| valorie | ops in #kubuntu please keep an eye on greasyfat | 00:29 |
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| valorie | I've warned him in #kubuntu-offtopic, but am now leaving for dinner | 00:29 |
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| jalcine | has anyone written an basic OS/kernel? | 03:39 |
| jalcine | like when you were in school (if you learned how to code in school) | 03:39 |
| ahoneybun | jalcine:no on learns that anymore | 04:58 |
| ahoneybun | in normal school anyway | 04:58 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1264821] kscreenlock_greet insecure with multiple X screens @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1264821 (by TJ) | 06:54 |
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| ahoneybun | hello | 08:13 |
| valorie | happy new year, ahoneybun | 08:16 |
| === rperier_ is now known as rperier | ||
| === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia | ||
| ahoneybun | happy new year valorie | 09:23 |
| ahoneybun | I had a smirnoff ice | 09:23 |
| jalcine | what about the rum? vodka? not even a bit of jack? | 09:24 |
| jalcine | c'monnnn | 09:24 |
| * jalcine prods ahoneybun | 09:24 | |
| apachelogger | /me sighs a bit | 09:25 |
| ahoneybun | jalcine: nope | 09:25 |
| jalcine | that's it | 09:25 |
| valorie | ewww, smirnoff ice | 09:34 |
| valorie | although probably about as good as the 'kitchen sink' that my son in law made me, which I think is what sunk me.... | 09:35 |
| valorie | :-) | 09:35 |
| apachelogger | any bored packager around? | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | oh, now I broke lunchpad | 09:41 |
| valorie | phooey, must be up early for the contractors | 09:42 |
| valorie | niters all | 09:42 |
| valorie | happy new years to all | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | qt4-x11_4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2 | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | the versions debian uses :@ | 10:41 |
| * apachelogger sighs a bit more | 10:53 | |
| apachelogger | bug 1251140 | 10:55 |
| ubottu | bug 1251140 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "KDE "display settings" control panel module displays empty window" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1251140 | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | I think the krandr split wasn't very successful | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | but that's a different thing | 10:55 |
| * apachelogger confused | 10:55 | |
| yofel | that opens kgamma when I try it.. | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | kde-workspace-bin: /usr/lib/kde4/kcm_display.so | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | yofel: depends on what krunner offers | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | but there definitely is a KCM for display | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | kde-workspace-bin: /usr/share/kde4/services/display.desktop | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | the bug makes no sense | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | both are in the same package | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | but it is empty | 10:58 |
| * apachelogger wonders why | 10:58 | |
| apachelogger | ohhhh | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | yofel: it's a metakcm ... it adds tabs for display related nonesense | 10:59 |
| yofel | ah, fun | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6677849/ | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | supposedly none of those is present in a default install of kubuntu | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | easy enough to fix0r | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | yofel: btw, are you bored? :P | 11:01 |
| yofel | not really :P | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | meh | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | I need a minion to merge qt, I am too old for this shit | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | In the future, the preferred way will be to to use bzr with bzr-builddeb plugin to perform merging. | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | ^ I wonder if 6 years is enough future to use that workflow | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | apparenlty not | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | yofel: I am actually not sure what the point of that KCM is | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | it's not used in systemsettings | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | and metakcms seem like a bad idea... it's like systemsettings categories implemented the wrong way (i.e. statically listing content rather than letting content attach) | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | content being other KCMs xD | 11:07 |
| shadeslayer | hey | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yo | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: welcome to the future | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | where's my spaceship | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | or hoverboard | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | I was promised a hoverboard ... | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw plz look at touchpad stuff again, author says he's fixed pretty much everything except for where he didn't since he doesn't agree with that | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what's the stuff he did not agree with? | 11:14 |
| shadeslayer | everything that's not fixed ? :P | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | list plz | 11:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: don't have one, email quote " | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | I've found http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fsitter%2Ftouchpad-review.git&a=commitdiff&h=caaed675a2ae302e35fcf0dae4cfff05ab14ee70 | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | I've fixed most of these issues. With some other of them I disagree." | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | get a list :@ | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah, asked for one | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | ahhhhh | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | I can't even fix that display kcm | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | would cause string changeroo which likely will result in fuzzy strings in the translations | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | :@ | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | that thing doesn't even have a bugs product/component | 11:25 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1251140] KDE "display settings" control panel module displays empty window @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1251140 (by kolen) | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | any thoughts on bug 1265301 | 12:03 |
| apachelogger | ? | 12:03 |
| ubottu | bug 1265301 in kppp (Ubuntu) "kppp doesn't need to run suid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1265301 | 12:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: thanks for not preserving the kdenetwork changelog when splitting kppp :'( | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: working on it | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: on the list? | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | on the kppp bug | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | just a matter of changing permissions from 4754 to 0754 afaict | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | dude | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | read comment....... | 12:12 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | MESSAGE(STATUS "Warning: kppp use setuid") | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | install(TARGETS kppp PERMISSIONS SETUID OWNER_EXECUTE OWNER_WRITE OWNER_READ GROUP_EXECUTE GROUP_READ WORLD_EXECUTE WORLD_READ DESTINATION ${BIN_INSTALL_DIR} ) | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | upstream intended suid | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | it's madness | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | or we remove suid and blame debian if stuff is broken xD | 12:34 |
| * apachelogger sighs at bzr | 12:41 | |
| apachelogger | oh | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: if you are bored | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | bug 1265301 | 12:41 |
| ubottu | bug 1265301 in kppp (Ubuntu) "kppp doesn't need to run suid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1265301 | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | eh | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | bug 1264887 | 12:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1264887 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "After upgrade 12.04 -> 14.04 there was no display manager (kdm or lightdm)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1264887 | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: or you could merge qt4-x11 from debian | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | then throw that at some ppa for testing (see qt/plasma crash mail stuff on list) | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | Uploading kppp_4.12.0-0ubuntu2_source.changes: done. | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | kppp is now 754 root:dip (same as debian) | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | it may work, it may not, impossible to test | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | also TBH kppp bugs seem to get 0 attention upstream | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | makes me hope -.- | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | in case someone is running 12.04 with a nvidia/intel hybrid graphics bug 1263469 may need validation (i.e. does whatever weird thing they are backporting work with kdm) | 12:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1263469 in lightdm-kde (Ubuntu) "[backport-request] 12.04.4 needs a newer version of lightDM-KDE " [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263469 | 12:44 |
| apachelogger | bug 1008991 -.- | 12:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1008991 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) "synaptikscfg crashed with UndefinedPropertyError in _get_property_atom(): u'Synaptics Circular Pad'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008991 | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, ScottK: bug 1263972 | 12:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1263972 in pykde4 (Ubuntu) "pykde4 FTBFS" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263972 | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kdevelop isn't in bzr? | 13:02 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1264016] can't create pen tablet profile @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1264016 (by Risto Pekkala) | 13:08 |
| mitya57 | apachelogger: the currently built pykde4 in trusty is newer than that bugreport… | 13:14 |
| mitya57 | xnox: ^ can I close it? | 13:20 |
| xnox | mitya57: yes, please. | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | groovy | 13:21 |
| xnox | mitya57: i don't think we do a good job at closing ftbfs bugs, after it starts building again.... | 13:21 |
| mitya57 | done | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dunno about kdevelop | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | you stole my package upload :( | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | now I have nothing to upload to the ubuntu archive :( | 13:24 |
| jalcine | lol | 13:24 |
| jalcine | I'd say steal it back | 13:24 |
| jalcine | but that's not nice | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: kppp also fixed for precise? | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: good luck finding a tester | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | but no, only fixed for trusty | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: upload qt4-x11 merge will you? :P | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | when I got up I was all like "today I shall change the world by making kf5 build, triage all the bugs I did not want to look at over the holidays and then prepare a qt485 for testing" | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | kf5 turned out to be kaput upstream, bugs are terribly time consuming and I am out of coffee | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | life's hard :( | 13:31 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: is qt4-x11 already merged ? Or do I have to merge it ? | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | Programming language : C++ , PHP , ( HTML,CSS,JavaScript ). | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | one doesn't belong, which one is it xD | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you have to | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | well | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | grab-merge.sh at least | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | I did not actually look at the diff | 13:39 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: c++ | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | I think it's css because it's not a programming language but a style sheet language (hence the name) :P | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | well that being said HTML is also no programming language but markup, so... | 13:41 |
| shadeslayer | fun qt4-x11 versioning from debian | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | yes :S | 13:44 |
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| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I don't think I have time to do a whole qt4-x11 merge today | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | pff | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | like I do :P | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: doesn't have to be finished today anyway | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | just soonishy | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | so we can then do PPA backports to raring so that people can test | 13:46 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It's apparently fixed. | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | yes | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | magic | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | xD | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326480 | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | :O | 13:51 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 326480 in server "Akonadi fails to start with nvidia binary drivers installed" [Normal,Resolved: upstream] | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | graphics broke the spam | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | outragous | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Breaks: libqt4-core (<< 4.4.0~beta1-1) | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | Replaces: libqt4-core (<< 4.4.0~beta1-1) | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | can be dropped right | 13:57 |
| yofel | ah, so that's what was breaking akonadi on my system here :D | 13:57 |
| ghostcube | hmm kdeconnect still 0.4.1? any info when it wil get o 0.4.2? | 13:58 |
| ghostcube | *to | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | yofel: but how | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | yofel: according to the kde report the versions in 13.10 should be fine | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why? | 14:04 |
| yofel | people installing nvidia drivers from PPAs? | 14:04 |
| yofel | I only encountered it with that driver version in trusty | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/qt4-x11/+changelog probably | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | 4.4 must be way old | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Precise has 4.8.1 | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | so can easily be dropped no? | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | yofel: someone needs to close the report then because I'd probably write something like 'serves you right' | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please say why you think stuff can be dropped when you ask, now I had to lookup what version precise has :P | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | The version in precise is burned into my memory | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | ahoneybun: your kubuntu docs mail to the lists was about the release docs? | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | because you did not link to the new docs, so... ;) | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | also you might want to say where reports should be filed :P | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: how so? | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | multiple people have asked where they can get a newer Qt for precise, at which point I've had to lookup what version Precise has | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | over the course of the last 2 years | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | the apachelogger answer to that would have been: upgrade :P | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | well then | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | I think I looked at all the bugs since dec 23 | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | they are all rubbish | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | except for the precise -> trusty upgrade issue, that seems important | 14:11 |
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| BluesKaj | apachelogger, trusty upgrade issue? | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | yes | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: want to sort out the bluedevil situation | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ? | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | I am haxx0ring | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | what's there to sort? | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | BlueDevil 1.X is EOL | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | that's handy | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | well, ~EOL | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | so we either stick to EOL release or switch to bluez5 and bluedevil 2 | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | mail to ubuntu-devel && ubuntu-bluetooth? | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | bluez updatability really depends on the other partys IMHO | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | between a rock and a hard place | 14:55 |
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| shadeslayer | fun | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: since when has Qt4 not been merged | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | I've found changes going back to 4:4.7.3 that haven't been merged | 15:05 |
| yofel | if you find the merge too boring, you could first fix the symbol files, nobody seems to have cared about those for a long time | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: well, mostly done with debian/{control,rules} | 15:31 |
| yofel | shadeslayer++ | 15:31 |
| * shadeslayer injects caffeine | 15:31 | |
| * shadeslayer can't bear to look at the diff for the symbols files | 15:55 | |
| apachelogger | lol | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6679178/ | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | I am not sure I understand what I did there | 15:57 |
| mitya57 | shadeslayer: In Qt5, I usually take Debian symbols, build in PPA and apply the delta from builders (there usually is no delta) | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | well, lets see how that goes | 15:58 |
| * mitya57 hugs shadeslayer | 15:58 | |
| shadeslayer | *hugs* | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: do you recommend the same for debian/patches as well | 16:00 |
| mitya57 | shadeslayer: feel free to grab some refreshed ubuntu patches from lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qt4.8.5 | 16:03 |
| mitya57 | that was my failed attempt to do what you're doing now :) | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: thoughts about http://pastebin.kde.org/puxlxahub | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | oh huh, p.k.o supports comments now | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | good thing it still autoscrolls | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | :@ | 16:11 |
| mitya57 | shadeslayer: commented :) | 16:12 |
| mitya57 | Using GL ES on arm* is one of the most important delta | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: you missed out libglu-dev [!armel !armhf],? | 16:14 |
| mitya57 | libglu-dev: | 16:14 |
| mitya57 | Installed: (none) | 16:14 |
| mitya57 | Candidate: (none) | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | ah, it's called libglu1-mesa-devnow | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | maybe | 16:15 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 16:15 | |
| mitya57 | shadeslayer: actually, all other "alternate" dependencies are gone too | 16:15 |
| mitya57 | So it'll be just: | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 16:16 |
| mitya57 | libgl1-mesa-dev [!armel !armhf], libgles2-mesa-dev [armel armhf], libglu1-mesa-dev [!armel !armhf] | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | roger roger | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fwiw bluez has 46 reverse deps | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | *build deps* | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | dont you mean build dependees? | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | I do | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | anyway, that's why I said a bump needs to be brought up at ubuntu-devel | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | I think I should go home as well ... | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | yep, Debian does have a bluez5 package | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | but yeah, looks doubtful if we'll get it done this cycle | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | gut doesn't feel too good about a bluez transition that wasn't organized before cycle started | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | what we can do is have both in the archive... also kinda fishy and we'd have to maintain it | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | that's what I was thinking as well | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | since when do we know about the EOL thing? | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: kde-packager | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | not long enough then | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | must have a bad release manager that bluedevil thing | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas argues that between a kf5 port, a kde4 port he has no time | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | so if he supports bluez4 he'll have to maintain 3 branches | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | yeah, that doesn't make it better from a actual-user-support POV :P | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: guess debian needs to do some sort of support though, so I really don't think that upstream EOL is that big a problem | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | (assuming 1.3 doesn't have present fatal bugs all future bugs would either be of a bitrot nature or low impact ones) | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | and it's not like we throw resources at latter, so even if we can't go for bluez5 and need to stay with bluedevil 1.3 it should(tm) be fine | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: would still ask on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-bluetooth | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | at the very least we'd need a timeline for +1 | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | maybe for LTS+1 | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | right | 16:26 |
| * apachelogger needs to cleanup releaseme -.- | 16:27 | |
| apachelogger | mh | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | kdesudo l10n stuck in import queue since forever | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | mitya57: yeah, patchery is screwed | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer | I'll have a look at them tomorrow | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: for the time being you could simply drop our patches and push that to a PPA | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | (a special ppa just for that build) | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | pending SRUs cards for saucy should get looked at sometime | 16:39 |
| * apachelogger cringes at amount of cards in 14.04 | 16:39 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you have too much stuff in doing again btw | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | https://trello.com/b/s8tG9Zlf/14-04 | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | plz fix | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | jussi: reminder about activity to explain activities | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: is mister party still on vacation? | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | oh and for https://trello.com/c/EUHfjxSC didn't we have a .2 candidate already? | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | anyway, off for today ... going to do poking for pending SRUs tomorrow | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | also, I guess looking at pending SRU verfications... if we have any | 16:53 |
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| === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina | ||
| * valorie had coffee to share with apachelogger but I guess it's too late for that | 22:44 | |
| apachelogger | indd, almost bed time :P | 22:44 |
| * yofel steals the cup and puts a coffee candy at the place it was ;P | 22:46 | |
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