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greasyfatanyone here a friend00:07
greasyfattalk to me i need friends00:07
greasyfattalk to me aholes00:07
greasyfath wrong channel00:07
ghil...00:07
douglgreasyfat, lol00:07
valoriegreasyfat: this is an ubuntu channel, and as such the CoC applies00:07
valorie!coc00:08
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greasyfati tried to go toofftopic00:08
valoriealso, this is a support channel00:08
greasyfati thot i was on thatchannel00:08
greasyfatwhere is the general chat00:08
greasyfatfor people who want friends00:08
greasyfatnot talk about tupid linux00:08
valorie#kubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic00:08
valorieor try alis to search:00:08
greasyfatty00:09
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apb1963I reinstalled kubuntu 12.04 to a fresh disk.  I have access to the old disk.  What files do I need to copy in order to restore my old working environment?01:35
ahoneybunapb1963: I think .kde directory01:40
ahoneybunhas some setting files in it01:40
ahoneybunhidden by default01:40
apb1963ok, but I was actually hoping for something more specific in terms of which files in that dir I specifically need01:42
apb1963because copying all of it does in fact change things... but it gives me some unwanted changes as well.  So I was hoping for perhaps a pointer to a guide that explains which files are required and what they do perhaps01:43
apb1963For example... one change I get is my tabs darken to nearly unreadable01:44
apb1963I suspect that has something to do with themes (Oxygen) but no idea how to fix it01:44
apb1963brb.. relogging.01:45
apb1963ok relogging helped01:47
apb1963but I still get a bit of weirdness in how it displays my virtual desktop tabs01:48
apb1963In particular there seems to be something underneath01:48
apb1963interesting.... I think it's the icon for my IRC client.  weird01:49
ahoneybunso nothing really got fixed? apb196301:50
apb1963well copying .kde over brought my desktop config back which is good... but there are some oddities, as I mentioned01:51
apb1963for example the title of one of the desktops has a gray box around it01:52
apb1963actually... two have the gray box... with one desktop - the one I'm in - having the IRC client icon underneath it and showing through01:52
apb1963Moving to a different desktop doesn't affect the icon01:53
greasyfatubuntu is lame cant update it without gparting bigger boot partition01:56
apb1963funny... my backgrounds didn't get restored02:09
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xixorhowdy y'all.  I have multiple sound cards in my system (an HDMI monitor, built in mobo sound device, and a USB audio interface).  Using phonon I can configure the order of the audio devices and all KDE apps work fine.  I haven't been able to figure out how to chnage the order of alsa devices though, so VLC, and flash player (which uses alsaplugin)  don't seem to work.  I can run alsamixer, I see my device02:54
xixorbut I haven't been able to figure out how to change the order.  Googling around, it seems that there used to be an asoundconf program that was recommended, it no longer seems to be in the repository02:54
stunnerhi guys i am new to kubuntu and did some research is there a lerning game or step by step learing guide so you learn some steps and you way arround the system? i am a former win user and some things still confuse me and the books i got dont really help are either too deep or too shallow and idea where to look?03:05
ghilwell first of all you can always ask any questions here?03:16
ghilwe're there most of the time exactly for that :)03:16
stunneri have so many thats why i wanted to know if there is a command lerning programm like this comand does this now try it and see what it does kind of thing03:17
stunneri did an update before and i just had a popupwindow where i was required to type in my pw and it updated i guess but i do not know if it did what it was supposed to do or not03:19
stunnerand i dont want to bother you guys with questuions that you probably heared a million times :D03:20
ghilwell first of all, you can man pretty much every thing in the command line interfance (exemple man top) to get a detailed manual on everything. It will ask you for your password when doing administrative tasks, and if you want to be sure that your system is up to date, open a terminal, type sudo apt-get update (to update the mirrorlist) and sudo apt-get upgrade (to actually do the udpate)03:21
ghil(sidenote: top is an easy command to figure out what's running on your system :P)03:25
stunnersudo apt-get update gives me an error03:27
ghilwhat's the error?03:27
stunnerE: Type 'service' is not known on line 58 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list03:27
stunnerE: The list of sources could not be read.03:27
ghilokay write this for me: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:28
ghilit will open a file with your mirrorlist in it. could you go to line 58 and tell me what is written?03:29
stunnerok i see i screwed up here before trying to get vnc running03:30
ghilgood :)03:30
stunnerservice Xvnc is line 58 i put it theer though03:30
ghilcopy the line for me?03:30
stunneri did read obove03:31
stunnerabove03:31
ghilok03:31
stunnerand after that was what i read to att to this file i may have not doen it right though03:31
stunneradd omg cant type tpday sorry03:32
stunneri give up :d03:32
ghilprobably. the error you are getting is when the mirrorlist can't update because it doesn't recognize that line.03:32
stunnerservice Xvnc03:32
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stunner        type = UNLISTED03:32
stunner        disable = no03:32
stunner        socket_type = stream03:32
FloodBotK1stunner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:32
stunner        protocol = tcp03:32
ghilyou can comment it (add a # before it, first in line) and it will ignore it.03:32
ghiloh that's why! this is not supposed to be there.03:33
ghilremove all that from there, should be okay to update now.03:33
stunnerok seems i am up to date03:35
ghilgood :)03:35
stunneryeah03:35
stunnerok man is manual top what is running and sudo is run something correct?03:40
ghilsudo is running something as administrator, or as we call it, root.03:41
stunnerok03:41
ghilbut the rest is great.03:41
stunnerreminds me of my old dos days :D03:42
ghilyeah :) most of the things you can do without the command line, but it's more efficient and quick, so a lot of us rely on it for most things.03:42
stunneris there a way to get a live konsolea konsole that tells me what im system is doing ?03:42
stunneryeah and i do like it its just confusing if you dont understand what you are doing :D03:43
ghilyeah, but you'll get there. We've all begun somewhere. :)03:43
stunneryeah i know03:44
stunnerhow come my standart browser wont load the urls that i want to open from the chat? i set fiorefox in firefox as default do i need to do that somewhere else as well?03:47
ghildepends on what you are using to connect to IRC>03:47
stunnerquuassel was already installed03:48
excalibrstunner, what does it use to launch the url?03:49
stunnerrekonq03:49
excalibrmight want to look for alternative entries in /etc/alternatives03:50
ghilI'm reading there was a Quassel bug that ignored the browser, so might be that too. I suggest changing anyway to something better! try Xchat fo GUI or IRSSI if you want to experiment with CLI.03:52
ghilbut I strongly suggests going with GUI first while you familiarise yourself. :p03:53
stunneri am new excalibr i understand you gave me a path but how i get there and than look for something i dont could you tell me what i need to do03:53
excalibrWhen you use plasma-desktop, how do you hide the titlebar for maximized app window just like in plasma-netbook?03:54
stunnerahh ok well it was already installed though i went with it03:54
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excalibrstunner, ls -l /etc/alternatives/xxx-www-browser03:55
excalibrx-www-browser03:55
excalibrwhere does it point to?03:56
stunner/usr/bin/rekonq03:57
stunnerand i need to change it to firefox is my quess?03:57
stunnerquick question /usr is my home directory?03:58
excalibrstunner, correct. change it with sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-brower03:59
stunnerupdate-alternatives: error: no alternatives for x-www-brower04:00
excalibrx-www-browser04:01
stunneroops04:01
stunnerwhat is the difference between auto and manual mode?04:02
ghilusr isn't your home. /home is your home.04:04
MangaKaDenzaI got a question about repositories04:04
ghilyes MangaKaDenza?04:04
MangaKaDenzais there a command line way to see which ones I'm using atm?04:04
TrelHow do I use different themes for lightdm? I don't see any way to configure it?04:05
MangaKaDenzaTrel: it should be configurable in the control panel04:05
TrelMangaKaDenza: with two options, icons or no icons, that's not exactly an appearance change04:05
MangaKaDenzaTrel: well, I'd install some themes then04:06
MangaKaDenzathey should be findable in muon package manager04:06
MangaKaDenzajust search for lightdm04:06
TrelMangaKaDenza: I don't even see any results for lightdm themes in google...04:06
excalibrstunner, im not so sure but I think it pertains to how the alternative systems handles the link when it no longer exists (as packages removed or installed). just select auto there just to be safe04:06
MangaKaDenzatry muon04:06
Trel(synaptic ok, or have to be muon?)04:07
stunner@excalibr thx04:07
MangaKaDenzaTrel: well, any package manager should work04:08
TrelI much prefer the UI of synaptic04:08
MangaKaDenzabut I like muon, as it doesn't lock dpkg when its used04:08
TrelMangaKaDenza: ok, I tried muon and synaptic, there's not a single theme for lightdm04:09
TrelI am I missing something?04:09
SonikkuAmericaYou can pick a greeter type (unity-greeter, lightdm-gtk-greeter, ...)04:10
Trelgreeters are not themes04:11
TrelWhy exactly is KDM being depricated in favor of lightdm?  It seems like it's not quite ready for prime time.04:12
MangaKaDenzaTrel: standardization I guess04:13
TrelIt seems like a rather bad idea considering how much customization is lost.04:13
TrelI'll be right back, I'm testing something04:14
stunnerhey ghil i asked before if there is a live konsole that i can follow while my system is doing something dont know if you missed it04:15
MangaKaDenzastunner: er, could you clarify?04:16
MangaKaDenzaI might be able to help04:16
stunnersure04:16
MangaKaDenzaso... what do you want to do exactly?04:17
stunneri want to install a program with muon and it just pops up a window where i need to type my password than the window is gone and it does stuff and a while later the program is there i just was wondering if you can follow along what it is doing in the background04:17
ghiloh I did not see the message: stunner: depends on what it is doing, but most of the time if you start something on the terminal, it will verbose, so you will be able to follow along.04:18
ghilso for exemple: instead of installing it with muon, install it in CLI with the commandd sudo apt-get install yourapphereeeeeeeeeeeeeeee04:19
ghilherr....the multiple e was weird, I think Synergy is having hickups. :p04:19
MangaKaDenzaI was just about to ask about that04:19
stunneri would do it but i dont know ernough to figure this sudo apt-get to do it manually04:20
stunneri just want to install xchat like you suggested04:20
ghilit's really simple. when you know what you want to install, type sudo (root access) apt-get (the actual download program) install (duh) xchat04:20
ghilso in short: sudo apt-get install xchat04:21
ghiland watch it fly by. Muon and Synaptic are just front ends for apt-get after all.04:21
stunnerahh so it looks randomly for xchat in the internet and installs it? without knowing the actuall location of it?04:21
ghilnot randomly. it will look in the repositories on the internet (you have a list of those in /etc/apt/sources.list) and will look only there.04:22
stunnerahh ok now it makes more sense04:23
ghilmost of the distributions maintain repositories of programs ready to be installed on that particular distribution.04:23
stunnerso sudo apt-get install xchat?04:23
ghilso you don't have to compile everything manually, which would be a pain. :P yes.04:24
stunnerseems simple enough04:24
ghilit is really simple.04:24
ghilit's actually a lot less complicated than windows.04:24
stunnerwell that was the way i was thinking that it needs to know where to look but if it has a library than it all makes more sense04:25
ghilexactly04:25
stunnerwell that was easy :D04:26
ghil:)04:27
stunneri need to restart i shall return hopefully :D04:27
stunneryaya04:31
stunneryay04:31
ghilnice :)04:31
stunnerok and now get rid of quassel hmm sudo apt-XXX irc ckient?04:32
stunnerno something with dev null04:34
ghilsudo apt-get remove quassel04:35
ghilgotta go to sleep though, but I'm sure someone else will take over. Night everyone :)04:36
stunnerthank you ghil good night04:39
stunnertop tells me 3 users one is guest one is me one root?04:45
Daskreech!commands05:03
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:03
DaskreechMangaKaDenza: you can see your repos in the /etc/ dir05:12
Daskreechstunner: yuo have a guest user?05:13
stunnerwell on my login sreen i could choose guest but i dont have the need for one really05:14
stunneri was just wondering top said i have 3 users05:14
stunnertop - 00:15:57 up 46 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.06, 0.17, 0.3005:16
valoriestunner: root is a user too05:32
stunneryeah my question was just is that the amount of all users or the logged in ones?05:32
valorieroot is always in the background running various things05:33
valorieI have 3 users as well, so I assume that is root, me and guest05:33
stunnerok good to know i am just new to this so i see those things and some bell rings in my head :D05:34
valoriethere is a funny old command `whoami` which tells you who are logged in as05:34
valorieyes, if you remember msdos or cp/m, lots of the cli will seem familiar05:35
stunneroh yes i remember05:35
stunnerdos 4.0 i had 40 mb hdd on my 286 with midi sound :D05:35
valoriealso, if you have linux-only questions and no one answers here, I understand that ##linux is a good chan05:36
valoriehere on freenode05:36
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valorielots of very knowledgeable people here, though05:37
stunner thanks have to check that out although i am not quite sure if i can distinguish the difference quite jet what is kubuntu and linux specific :D05:37
valoriesure05:38
stunnerdarn it still rekonq i though it was set to firefox now05:38
valorieit took me a good long while to figure out how the community is structured05:38
valorieyou can set this in systemsettings05:39
valorieand try alt+f2 (krunner) to find stuff05:39
valorieDefault applications is what you want05:39
stunnerhey as long you understand they (the people that know things) are people like you and be nice to them05:39
valoriein systemsettings05:40
valorieyup05:40
valorieI started hanging out in the linuxchix IRC when I was still using windows, just to get oriented05:40
valoriefrom there I found freenode, and the KDE and Kubuntu channels05:41
stunnersudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser is what i did before05:41
valorieok, I've never used that command05:41
valorieso dunno05:41
valoriesystemsettings is well laid out05:41
stunnerbut as i see it didnt change it in kde(?)05:42
valoriethat could be05:42
valoriedunno05:42
stunnerwell i changet it in the systemsettings05:42
valoriealso, you might have to log out and back into KDE to have it 'take'05:42
stunneri restarted the system before05:43
valorieok05:43
jalcinestunner: Linux is like your brian, Kubuntu's more like the flesh and bones that make you what you are.05:43
jalcineFor an analogy05:43
valorierestart is rarely necessary05:43
jalcineSome would say Linux is probably the nervous system05:43
stunneryeah but i had to05:43
valorieok05:43
jalcineAlso, stunner, did you check System Settings > Default Applications ?05:43
stunneryeah its just konsole and kde seem to be working together but not05:44
stunneryeah i just changed it there05:44
jalcineAh, sorry, didn't see the backlog.05:44
stunnerall good05:44
jalcineis it happening when you click on a link in Konsole or are you just trying to reconfigure `x-www-browser`?05:45
stunneroh man irc its been a long time05:45
stunnerno before i was on quassel irc client and links in quassel was opening in requon or something like that so i asked how to change that and someone told me to use the x-www-browser to change that but kde seemed to not chenged it05:47
stunnerxchat doesnt seem to open a browser at all when i click a link05:47
valoriexchat is a standalone application, not part of KDE05:48
valorieyou probably have to configure that within xchat05:48
* valorie favors Konversation05:48
stunneryeah i found an option but i have no clue how to set it up i need to do some research on that05:49
stunneratm its set to opera it seems05:49
valorieinteresting05:49
valorieI haven't tried opera for years05:49
stunner!opera -remote 'openURL(%s)'05:50
ubottustunner: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:50
valorie!opera05:50
ubottuOpera is an advanced, fast and free (as in beer) web browser. It is packaged for easy installation into Ubuntu. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:50
stunner !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)'05:50
ubottustunner: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:50
valoriethe bot doesn't take arguments, I guess05:50
stunnernope lol05:50
valoriesince opera is also a standalone application, ubottu is unlikely to know much anyway05:51
jalcinestunner: that's within Quassel's settings, I'd presume.05:51
valoriethe longer I use KDE, the more I tend to stick to KDE apps05:52
jalcineKonversation's more tightly knit with KDE and respects KDE's desktop settings for opening links05:52
valorieexcept chromium05:52
stunneri like xchat seems to be not so cutesie05:52
jalcinehopefuly, that'll change with Qt5 and the new Web rendering engine05:52
valoriefor some reason, I took a dislike to xchat a long time ago05:53
stunnerit works for what i need it seems to me a simple irc client05:53
valoriebut choices are there for all of us, which is one of the great things about linux05:53
jalcinestunner: I'd point you in the direction of Konversation, then. It's simpler and gets things done.05:54
stunnerits just different from windows need some time to get used to it05:54
jalcineI use both Konversation and weechat, but spend more time in Konversation05:54
valoriekonvi <305:55
stunnerhmm ok lets see if i remember how to get it installed05:55
jalcinestunner: cli or gui?05:55
valorieheh05:55
stunnercli gui?05:56
stunnerhehe05:56
stunner_hehe05:57
stunner_nah i miss the sidebar :D05:57
stunneri stay with xchat for now05:57
jalcinestunner_: Konversation has that, you'd have to move the tabs to the left in the settings05:58
jalcineby default, it's at the top (iirc)05:58
stunneri gotta check it oout05:58
valorie!konversation05:58
valoriepiffle05:58
stunnerlol05:59
valoriehmmm05:59
valorie!irc05:59
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valoriepfff06:00
valorie!info konversation06:00
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valorienot what i wanted to know, ubottu06:00
jalcinethe app docs are online for most of KDE's apps, no?06:01
stunnerbut i am proud of myself got my firefox running with my windows profile skype to work (i think)  now i need to see how i get sc2 to work and vnc06:02
valoriehttp://userbase.kde.org/Konversation06:02
valoriesc2 works well; the kubuntu packagers often use it to build stuff06:02
valoriejalcine: yep; but ubottu doesn't seem to know about 'em06:03
stunnerwe are talking about starcraft 2?06:03
stunnersorry if i confused you06:03
jalcinelol06:03
jalcinestunner: konversation has its docs online at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/index.html06:03
stunnerok i will check it out but not now06:04
valorieah, that is the online amazon.com system06:04
stunneri saw playonlinux supposed to work06:04
valorie!playonlinux06:05
valoriehmmm06:05
valorie!wine06:06
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stunner!info playonlinux06:06
ubottuplayonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.1-1 (saucy), package size 1578 kB, installed size 3954 kB06:06
greasyfatwtf is dif bettwen kbuntu and regular ubuntu06:06
valoriethe difference is KDE vs Unity desktop06:06
greasyfatahhh06:06
greasyfatyeah unity is adware lol06:06
valoriethere are also lots of other 'flavors' of ubuntu06:06
greasyfatmaybei shud switch06:06
valoriexubuntu, lubuntu, etc.06:07
jalcinestunner: check the wine-hq site for compatibility of SC2 on Ubuntu06:08
stunneryeah i have read about it already but its getting later in the day and so therefore i will do it tomorrow06:09
jalcineno problem06:09
stunneri am just enjoying my achievements for the day lol06:09
jalcineg'day stunner :)06:09
stunneroops konversation was still open06:10
stunneri will stay for a while still06:10
stunneri wont go to bed for a while just not in the mood for more stuff right now06:10
stunner!mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox 'openURL(%s,new-tab)'06:12
ubottustunner: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:12
stunnerurl handler for xchat just in case someone needs it06:13
Daskreech:)06:17
Daskreechstunner: Wiki it!06:17
stunnerno i got it to work06:17
stunneri just forget how irc works lol06:17
stunnerits been like 6 years06:18
Programmer_anyone here?06:19
stunneri am but i dont think i can help you much06:19
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Programmer_hmmm06:20
Programmer_Well I was wondering how how do i get the application tabs06:21
Programmer_like right click in a window title bar and select, tab to window06:21
Fa_1good morning + happy new year :) - does somebody know whats wrong with ~/.xsession-errors since 13.10(?) it's almost empty now06:22
stunneri have no idea sorry06:22
valoriestunner: Daskreech meant find the wiki article and add that command so others can find it06:26
DaskreechProgrammer_: which application is this?06:26
Programmer_its now one06:26
Programmer_like when you right click on an application's title bar06:26
DaskreechFa_1: Maybe you stopped having session errors?06:26
valorienot many people will search the logs of this channel for anything about xchat, since it isn't a KDE application06:27
Programmer_there is an open for "More options"06:27
DaskreechProgrammer_: You right click on the application abr06:27
Programmer_an application's window titlebar...06:27
valoriethat works for me in Konversation06:28
valorieshould work in any KDE application06:28
DaskreechProgrammer_: what do you get when youright click on the title bar?06:28
stunnerahh06:28
Fa_1Daskreech: that would be cool (: but no. even in this case there should be some kind of output in06:28
stunneryeah i am new to this linux thing :D06:28
stunnersorry daskreech i will see what i can find06:29
Programmer_move to desktop, minimize, maximize, etc.06:29
DaskreechFa_1: When was the file last touched?06:29
DaskreechProgrammer_: what window display manager are you using?06:29
Programmer_the default?06:30
Programmer_oh nvm, i think oxygen is the only thing that has this option06:30
Fa_1Daskreech: 11minutes ago (like it should be on - session start) .. i think that ubuntu has made some changes and the output will now end somewhere else.. but i dont know the right path06:31
DaskreechFa_1: Oh. that's bad06:32
DaskreechProgrammer_: Ah06:32
Programmer_you see it?06:32
Fa_1ohh .. found it ... its now in ~/.cache/upstart/startkde.log :/06:34
bogfroganyone Know where I can get a lst of non-devel communty websites  for Kubuntu and KDE? :Please07:05
valoriebogfrog: are you looking for the userbase stuff?07:08
valoriehttp://userbase.kde.org07:09
valoriethere is also the community wiki: http://community.kde.org07:09
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valorieah, did you see my answer to you, bogfrog?07:10
bogfrogsorry had to logout I just visited and i'll start at the userbase thanK you valorie07:12
valoriecool07:12
valoriealso:07:13
valoriethere is also the community wiki: http://community.kde.org07:13
stunnercan i run 2 sudo apt-get paralell07:18
valorieno, but you can do sudo command && sudo command-two07:19
binaliHi people))07:19
valorieI often do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:19
valoriealso: up-arrow gets you to commands you've used before07:20
binaliHow can I install network-manager for Kubuntu 13.10 ?07:20
valoriebig time-saver07:20
valorie!info network-manager07:20
ubottunetwork-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8.0-0ubuntu22 (saucy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1940 kB (Only available for linux-any)07:20
binaliI lost it.07:21
valoriesudo apt-get install network-manager07:21
valoriebinali ^^^07:21
stunnerhmm sudo apt-get install network-manager?07:22
binaliNot working!07:22
stunnerdamn it too late but i am proud of myself07:22
valoriebinali: what is the error message?07:22
binaliapt install it for GNOME.07:23
valorieI'm sorry, what?07:23
binaliAnd, it not working in KDE.07:23
valorieI see07:23
binaligir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gnome-bluetooth gnome-user-share network-manager network-manager-gnome07:24
binalibut, i need network-manager-kde07:24
binaliq07:25
binaliwith plasma widget.07:25
valoriethe widget is called Network Management07:25
valorieso that isn't a standalone application, it's just a widget07:25
valoriedo you see the cashew on one end of your task bar?07:26
binalihmm07:26
valorieclick that and "add widget"07:26
binaliokay.. i try07:27
stunnerhmm when the program i want to install is not in the lib how do i get it with the console anyway?07:27
valoriedoesn't it offer to download it for you?07:28
stunnerE: Unable to locate package 7zip07:28
valorie!info 7zip07:29
ubottuPackage 7zip does not exist in saucy07:29
valorieah, of course -- that's a windows application07:29
James0rdo i need to do anything special to get conky to work well in kde? the configs i've tried so far are showing up with black borders or all black07:30
binaliI lost network managment widget for Plasma(07:30
stunnerfound it07:32
stunner!playonlinux07:47
stunner!info playonlinux07:47
ubottuplayonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.1-1 (saucy), package size 1578 kB, installed size 3954 kB07:47
binalithanks for all))07:50
valoriebinali: success?07:50
apb1963I'm getting an error from kwin.  Screenshot here: http://snag.gy/xfJKN.jpg07:50
binaliyes)) i installed network-manager and plasma-widget-networkmanagement07:51
valoriewonderful!07:51
stunnernice07:52
binaliThank You, man))07:52
binaliI have bug, can you help me again?)07:52
valoriehehe, not a man!07:53
binali=)07:53
valoriesure, this channel is always here to help kubuntu users07:53
binaliI love Kubuntu)))07:53
binaliHow can I enable Mobile broadband automaticaly?07:54
binaliCheckbox is unchecked07:55
valoriebinali: explain exactly what you want to do07:56
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binaliexcuse me for grammatical errors07:58
valoriethat isn't a problem, but I don't understand what you want to do08:00
valorieare you going to be using your cell phone to connect to the internet often, or always?08:01
binali_http://i60.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0102/38/294c16572e3f864ea2a85de4a9af7538.jpeg that's my problem08:04
valorieand when you "edit connections, can you enable Mobile Broadband?08:06
binali_yes i can.. but i need to activate mobile broadband automatically08:08
valorieonce it's checked, that's done, right?08:09
valorieI've never even tried that, so dunno08:09
binali_yes))08:09
valorie!mobile08:09
valoriepfff08:09
binali_=)))08:10
binali_I ask this question google)08:10
valoriehttp://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement might help08:11
binali_Thank you so much!08:12
valorienp08:12
stunnergrumph08:12
stunneris theer a way to give a programm root access prior to starting it?08:18
James0rhow can i install a skz plasmoid? oxygen system monitor in particular08:18
valoriestunner, there is, but why would you want that?08:20
valoriedangerous move08:20
stunneri know i was just wondering08:21
stunnerbecause playonlinux needs to mount my dvd drive and it always gives an error08:21
valorieJames0r: skz files are discussed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105835408:21
stunnerbut i guess i check the irc tomorrow noone awake theer atm08:22
valorieseems like it would be better to automatically mount your dvd drive08:22
valorierather than start up playonlinux as root08:22
James0rvalorie: thanks08:23
valoriestunner: check out `man mount`08:23
stunnerwas just an idea but playonnlinux states it will ask me for root but never does08:23
stunneri did08:23
valorieI believe there is a file you can edit to get that auto-mounted08:23
valorieJames0r: np08:24
valoriestunner: this thread might help - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142132408:26
valoriemaybe this one also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182814508:27
stunnerjust quick question in file manager i can access the dvdrom just fine does that mean its mounted or is that something else08:27
valorieyes, if you can see it in Dolphin, it is mounted08:28
stunneryeah i can08:28
stunnerso it is mounted i think its something playonlinux or wine specific08:29
stunneri will ask them tomorrow08:29
valorieI think there is a wine chan08:29
stunnerthere is a playonlinux chan as well but noone home atm :D08:30
valorie#winehq08:30
valorieoh, ok08:30
valorieI would expect all things gamer to be well supported here on freenode08:30
valoriehttp://www.playonlinux.com/en/topic-10879-unable_to_find_CDROM.html might shed light as well08:31
valoriehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/37219/how-do-i-mount-cd-rom-at-media-cdrom008:32
valorieoh, google has lotsa stuff for ya08:32
stunnerno disrespect but i can google also :D08:33
valorieheh08:33
stunneri tried that but wasnt helpfull for me08:33
valorieok08:33
stunnerbut i do appreciate it08:34
stunnervery helpfull08:34
valorieyou'd be surprised how many people google for stuff seemingly unrelated08:34
stunneryeah i am usually good at finding things08:34
valoriewhen they finally frame the question, I google it for them, and they think I know what I'm talking about!08:34
valorieviola!08:34
valoriehardest bit being coming up with the right question08:35
stunnerbut some stuff esp linux is new to me so its hard to get the right question but it seems like the exact problem is hard to find08:35
valorieyup08:35
stunnergotta love lmgtfy.com though :D08:36
valorieheh08:38
valorieas long as it is used in good fun, rather than passive-agressively08:38
stunnersure08:39
stunneri do this with my mum alot :D08:39
valorie:-)08:39
stunneratleast she learned how to use a smartphone08:40
valorieI had my dad using the internet, until his mental state went down08:42
stunneranyway its bedtiime now cya later08:42
valoriethat was hard to watch08:42
valorieniters, stunner08:42
stunnermy dad is scared of the internet08:43
stunnercya08:44
cjaedoes anyone know if trim is enabled on ssd in 13.10?08:59
valoriecjae: looks like it isn't default yet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/trim09:00
cjaehaha youre here too09:01
cjaeok guess Ill have to do it, thanks again09:01
valoriesure, we're part of KDE as well as part of ubuntu09:03
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cjaevalorie: do you have the kde-ufw firewall as well? the one that show in system-settings?09:17
cjaeit is enabled by default in kde-linux-mint09:18
jalcine!kde-ufw09:21
jalcine!info ufw-kde09:21
ubottuPackage ufw-kde does not exist in saucy09:21
jalcine!info kde-ufw09:22
ubottuPackage kde-ufw does not exist in saucy09:22
jalcinehmm09:24
jalcinecjae: are you using Kubuntu or Debian?09:24
jalcinebecause kde-ufw doesn't exist09:25
cjaekubuntu09:25
jalcineI know there's a plug-in for KDE that has ufw (I use it myself) but it's not packaged yet09:25
cjaeyes that may not be exact name09:25
jalcine!info python-ufw09:25
ubottupython-ufw (source: ufw): Uncomplicated FireWall Python modules. In component main, is optional. Version 0.33-0ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 44 kB, installed size 247 kB09:25
cjaeright but that one doesnt fit into system settings right?09:26
jalcineit does09:26
jalcinewait, no not python-ufw09:26
jalcineI think it's on the list of things to package09:27
cjaeI complied it before but it never actually set ufw09:27
cjaeits been on there awhile09:27
cjaeit is setup on linuxmint kde but I cannot get it to work with kubuntu09:28
cjaenot sure if I still have my .deb I created09:33
valoriesorry, cjae09:35
valoriewas afk for a bit09:35
cjaeno sweat :-)09:36
valoriewe lack the manpower so far to get kde-ufw working well enough to be packaged, as i understand it09:36
valoriethat includes testing, of course09:36
valorievolunteer to test if you are interested!09:37
cjaeWell I would but my expertise is too limited to be of any use. I wanted a simple allow all outgoing and a reject all incoming setup.09:40
valorieok; /me heads to bed09:43
jonahHi can anyone please help getting my monitors set up right? I have two Samsung SyncMaster 2343nw displays using Twinview. One is using DVI but the other has a DVI to VGA adaptor and I can't get a high enough resolution on it. The resoution should be 2048x1152 for both... I've tried adding lines to xorg.conf etc but can't get it to work.10:20
cjaejonah: addtional drivers? like nvidia driver? Do you play games?10:57
jonahcjae: no I don't play games. I do have the nvidia drivers installed. nvidia-settings also is unable to get me the higher resolution on the second screen.10:57
cjaethen why is default not good enough?10:58
cjaethere is 3d and multimonitor support out of the box10:59
cjaewhich works great for my hdmi tv10:59
cjaeI havent had to use nvidia driver for some time now11:00
jonahcjae: hi thanks - the default is giving a lower resolution that which the monitor is supposed to have, so text is blocky and the display doens't look right11:00
jonahcjae: my first monitor is fine and looks good, the second monitor looks bad...11:01
cjaeand it does let you choose different resolution?11:01
jonahcjae: it'll let me choose different ones, but they're all lower than the default it is supposed to run at which should be 2048x115211:03
cjaehttp://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=by3kytxduily5lqz8yqh.png11:03
cjaeoic11:03
jonahcjae: hi thanks - I've also tried that, but again it offers 2048x1152 for the 1st monitor which is great but the second monitor only has lower resolutions11:04
cjaesorry I havent had to use xorg.conf for awhile. I would think you might have trouble finding help with it here too. since they are moving away from that standard11:06
cjae#xorg?11:07
cjaeI am assumming that you know the system settings do nothing to the nvidia driver as well.11:08
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cjaewhat is wromg with my desktop search 13.10 always idle11:19
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BluesKajHowdy all12:13
oscarrBluesKaj: strange that noone is talking here12:47
oscarrwhat you think ?12:47
oscarrall are trying to get kubuntu working ... and has no time to talk ?12:47
BluesKajlots of lurkers oscarr, but if you have a question about kubuntu , just ask12:48
Tm_Toh, this is not a chit chat channel, that's happening in #kubuntu-offtopic12:48
oscarrBluesKaj: on my two machines on 13.10 i have strange KDE screen crashes ... black screen... with working windows .... but without of frames. it looks like windowdecorator and manager crashes how to check that ?12:51
BluesKajoscarr, have you updated and upgraded lately ?12:55
oscarryes12:55
oscarri think it could be because of graphics driver ... im using nvidia driver ... not noveau12:57
BluesKajgraphics cards / drivers , sudo lshw -C video, look at the line configuration12:59
yazeedWhen I have upgraded to nvidia in kubuntu 13.10, the kubuntu splash no longer gets shown :|12:59
yazeedit basically misses the plymouth13:02
BluesKajdo you get the login screen right after grub ...faster boot?13:03
BluesKajI was using the nouveau driver on 13.10 and it worked well ...installing the 319 driver now , we'll see if I have the dame problems , yazeed , oscarr13:09
BluesKajsame13:09
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fedorПрмвет всем!13:11
yazeedBluesKaj, thanks :D i don't get the login screen right after grub, it just shows a stupid version of plymouth13:11
BluesKaj!ru | fedor13:11
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BluesKajthink jockey is going to fail here , will have to do it vis cli or muon13:12
BluesKajvia13:12
oscarrBluesKaj: the problem popups sometimes .. probably is connected with Opengl ... because it popups sometimes when launching 3d game ... but not only ... sometimes im going away from kb .. and after hours .. when i coming back i have only black screen with mouse pointer.13:14
BluesKajuse xrandr with OpenGL , oscarr13:15
BluesKajinstead of native13:15
BluesKajoscarr, which nvidia driver are you using ?13:19
BluesKajoscarr,I have the 319 driver installed here , no problems so far13:20
BluesKajinstalled it on the desktop ,this laptop uses intel13:21
lordievaderGood afternoon.'13:30
BluesKajhi lordievader13:46
lordievaderHey BluesKaj, how are you doing?13:46
BluesKajgood thanks lordievader , and you ?13:47
lordievaderDoing good, BluesKaj :)13:47
monkeyjuiceyou need to take this to offtopic ;) lol13:48
BluesKajgreetings are allowed13:49
monkeyjuiceok great13:50
xixorBluesKaj: dang, it's cold13:58
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gino_ciao14:16
gino_atlas!14:17
gino_!atlas14:17
eagles0513875BluesKaj: things seem alot better with kde14:19
eagles0513875but my questino is how do i know if nepomuk and konadi is working right as there were some dbg package dependency issue14:19
eagles0513875issues14:19
lordievader!it | gino_14:20
ubottugino_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:20
BluesKajsorry eagles0513875, I don't use either one14:20
BluesKajhave them turned off in session management14:23
eagles0513875hey guys i am running kde from the kde ppa and i had some issues with the dbg packages and dependencies can anyone tell me if akonadi will still work from the ppa package if the dbg packages are not installed?14:26
gino_disney14:26
gino_hallo14:27
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lordievadereagles0513875: Aren't the dbg packages debug packages?14:37
eagles0513875lordievader: i got a strange error in kmail about akonadi lets see if it will pop up again14:37
eagles0513875lordievader: seems fine now will let you know if it happens again14:38
lordievadereagles0513875: Note, I know nothing about akonadi/nepomuk/kmail. I don't think I'm the right guy to ask.14:39
eagles0513875lordievader: was asking the room in general14:39
eagles0513875lordievader: just so i understand backports are basically stable releases of lets say updated versions of kde etc14:40
lordievadereagles0513875: I was talking about your message at 15:38.14:40
eagles0513875ahh ok \14:40
lordievadereagles0513875: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backporting14:41
eagles0513875lordievader: solved the dependency issues with akonadi dbg stuff14:56
Poisoned_DragonI'm using 12.04. Has anyone updated KDE with the backport ppa?14:59
Poisoned_DragonI didn't want to chance it, since things are pretty stable.14:59
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eagles0513875Poisoned_Dragon: im on 13.10 and i just updated it to the ppa version and things really improved for me was having alot of issues with the default 13.10 version15:03
Poisoned_DragonWhat version is KDE in 13.10?15:10
Poisoned_Dragon12.04 is 4.8.x15:10
eagles0513875!kde15:15
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.15:15
eagles0513875Poisoned_Dragon: not sure but the latest version in the ppa is 4.1215:16
eagles0513875Poisoned_Dragon: it was 4.1115:16
Poisoned_DragonAh, gotcha.15:16
Poisoned_Dragon4.11 was that buggy?15:16
eagles0513875Poisoned_Dragon: on this laptop yes15:17
eagles0513875im finding 12 more stable tbh15:17
eagles0513875lots of issues i was seeing arent occuring15:18
Poisoned_DragonMaybe I should chance it. I do get crashes with KDE on certain tasks.15:18
Poisoned_DragonRepeatable but, not crippling.15:19
Poisoned_Dragonnothing a reboot command in terminal can't fix.15:19
eagles0513875Poisoned_Dragon: maybe so but it was issues not really with stability for me but apps not doing as they should15:19
eagles0513875kmail after a while wouldnt open emails for me sometimes closing and reopening would fix it but other times it wouldnt15:20
eagles0513875i would have to elave it closed for some time first then open it again15:20
eagles0513875Poisoned_Dragon: i don tthink anything would make the backports repo unless it was stable15:20
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Poisoned_DragonMeh, I would have purged kmail for thunderbird. :)15:23
Poisoned_DragonAs it is, rekonq is gone.15:23
Poisoned_Dragonoops... this is drifting to off-topic.15:24
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rberg anybody here know how to prevent notifications from stealing focus? I have stealing prevention set to high already, but quassel and kmail notifications still steal focus16:08
Poisoned_Dragonjust those 2?16:09
rbergprobably more, but those are the 2 I get a lot of notifications from16:10
rbergin "edit window-specific settings" what type of window would a notification be? Dialog?16:14
Poisoned_DragonHmm... not sure. Still a little green with KDE.16:15
Poisoned_DragonI'm usually an xfce guy.16:16
Poisoned_DragonAlso, I don't use Quassel. And I'm tempted to purge kmail16:24
rbergPoisoned_Dragon: some times I find restarting akonadi helps when kmail gets weird16:25
Poisoned_DragonBut, I like my thunderbird. :(16:27
rberg ohh I may have missed some of that conversation16:28
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m_tadeuhi...after installing the nvidia drivers, all fonts got really small....how to solve this?18:40
soee_m_tadeu: resolution change or font size changed ?18:44
m_tadeusoee_: the resolution is the same....the fonts that show up are really really small18:50
rbergm_tadeu: what does X think is your displays DPI? run 'xdpyinfo | grep resolution'18:55
rberglast time I had that problem was a long time ago, I had to force the dpi setting for X18:56
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rbergm_tadeu: also hold ctrl and mouse wheel up will often increase your font size..  you may need to do that to read the output of the command above18:59
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m_tadeuok...fixed by adding Options "DPI" "96x96" in xorg.conf19:09
m_tadeunow another detail arises to fix....font anti-aliasing doesn't seem to be working, so fonts look really "squary"19:10
Simonehello19:10
Simonei'm installing kubuntu!19:10
Simonecan i install chrome?19:11
Poisoned_DragonIs there a way to reduce the brightness of video overlay globaly?19:30
Poisoned_Dragon*globally19:30
Poisoned_DragonVideos look brigher in local players but appear normal in flash.19:30
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Poisoned_DragonI know I can adjust it in player, but it seems like a system setting.19:31
rerfi don't know english, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111119:31
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Poisoned_DragonOh, ok... the problem isn't brightness. The video overlay is over saturated.19:55
Poisoned_DragonI can drop the saturation in player. but, is there a global xorg or kde setting for that?19:55
Poisoned_Dragonoh, it's both. :)19:57
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Poisoned_DragonOh well... I fixed it in my video player options. I can deal...20:07
eagles0513875hey all20:31
eagles0513875lordievader: well i cant be happier now :)20:32
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BluesKajeagles0513875, other than the track/touchpad what else does the project neon kde version do for you?20:58
eagles0513875BluesKaj: somehow i get a higher resolution then on kde version taht is released and in ppa20:59
eagles0513875also i can adjust the resolution which i cannot do in system settings on the kubuntu versions20:59
BluesKajreally? I have several resolutions available and it's not a fancy graphics card21:00
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BluesKajof course the top one is 1366x76821:01
BluesKajaltho the HDMI out provides 1920x1080 on the TV21:03
eagles0513875BluesKaj: i have no resolutions21:03
eagles0513875i need to test if i can output to a 2nd monitor21:03
eagles0513875as that wasnt working21:03
BluesKajwhat's the graphics card and driver?21:04
xixorso much of that is driver dependent21:06
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eagles0513875BluesKaj: i think its an intel one21:52
eagles0513875ya intel actually21:52
BluesKaji915 driver? , lspci -k |grep -A 2 VGA22:09
BluesKajeagles0513875,^22:09
eagles0513875BluesKaj: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) that is what my graphics is so i have no idea what model22:10
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BluesKajeagles0513875, did you run the command above ? , you should see the driver in the list22:12
eagles0513875BluesKaj: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)         Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device fa82 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)22:12
eagles0513875thats all that comes up BluesKaj22:12
BluesKajok , that's strange22:13
BluesKajwell, gotta go ..later22:14
eagles0513875ya so i am not totally sure what i have22:14
ChogyDanwhat is the "proper" way to install restricted nvidia drivers?22:34
soeeChogyDan: you can use Additional Display Driver to activate them22:40
wafflejockyeah believe System -> Additional Drivers in Kubuntu22:41
ChogyDanok, I found it, thanks folks22:46
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