[00:07] anyone here a friend [00:07] talk to me i need friends [00:07] talk to me aholes [00:07] h wrong channel [00:07] ... [00:07] greasyfat, lol [00:07] greasyfat: this is an ubuntu channel, and as such the CoC applies [00:08] !coc [00:08] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv [00:08] i tried to go toofftopic [00:08] also, this is a support channel [00:08] i thot i was on thatchannel [00:08] where is the general chat [00:08] for people who want friends [00:08] not talk about tupid linux [00:08] #kubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic [00:08] or try alis to search: [00:09] ty [00:09] !alis [00:09] alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === emma_ is now known as em [01:35] I reinstalled kubuntu 12.04 to a fresh disk. I have access to the old disk. What files do I need to copy in order to restore my old working environment? [01:40] apb1963: I think .kde directory [01:40] has some setting files in it [01:40] hidden by default [01:42] ok, but I was actually hoping for something more specific in terms of which files in that dir I specifically need [01:43] because copying all of it does in fact change things... but it gives me some unwanted changes as well. So I was hoping for perhaps a pointer to a guide that explains which files are required and what they do perhaps [01:44] For example... one change I get is my tabs darken to nearly unreadable [01:44] I suspect that has something to do with themes (Oxygen) but no idea how to fix it [01:45] brb.. relogging. [01:47] ok relogging helped [01:48] but I still get a bit of weirdness in how it displays my virtual desktop tabs [01:48] In particular there seems to be something underneath [01:49] interesting.... I think it's the icon for my IRC client. weird [01:50] so nothing really got fixed? apb1963 [01:51] well copying .kde over brought my desktop config back which is good... but there are some oddities, as I mentioned [01:52] for example the title of one of the desktops has a gray box around it [01:52] actually... two have the gray box... with one desktop - the one I'm in - having the IRC client icon underneath it and showing through [01:53] Moving to a different desktop doesn't affect the icon [01:56] ubuntu is lame cant update it without gparting bigger boot partition [02:09] funny... my backgrounds didn't get restored === Steakanbake is now known as Steakanbake|slee [02:54] howdy y'all. I have multiple sound cards in my system (an HDMI monitor, built in mobo sound device, and a USB audio interface). Using phonon I can configure the order of the audio devices and all KDE apps work fine. I haven't been able to figure out how to chnage the order of alsa devices though, so VLC, and flash player (which uses alsaplugin) don't seem to work. I can run alsamixer, I see my device [02:54] but I haven't been able to figure out how to change the order. Googling around, it seems that there used to be an asoundconf program that was recommended, it no longer seems to be in the repository [03:05] hi guys i am new to kubuntu and did some research is there a lerning game or step by step learing guide so you learn some steps and you way arround the system? i am a former win user and some things still confuse me and the books i got dont really help are either too deep or too shallow and idea where to look? [03:16] well first of all you can always ask any questions here? [03:16] we're there most of the time exactly for that :) [03:17] i have so many thats why i wanted to know if there is a command lerning programm like this comand does this now try it and see what it does kind of thing [03:19] i did an update before and i just had a popupwindow where i was required to type in my pw and it updated i guess but i do not know if it did what it was supposed to do or not [03:20] and i dont want to bother you guys with questuions that you probably heared a million times :D [03:21] well first of all, you can man pretty much every thing in the command line interfance (exemple man top) to get a detailed manual on everything. It will ask you for your password when doing administrative tasks, and if you want to be sure that your system is up to date, open a terminal, type sudo apt-get update (to update the mirrorlist) and sudo apt-get upgrade (to actually do the udpate) [03:25] (sidenote: top is an easy command to figure out what's running on your system :P) [03:27] sudo apt-get update gives me an error [03:27] what's the error? [03:27] E: Type 'service' is not known on line 58 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list [03:27] E: The list of sources could not be read. [03:28] okay write this for me: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list [03:29] it will open a file with your mirrorlist in it. could you go to line 58 and tell me what is written? [03:30] ok i see i screwed up here before trying to get vnc running [03:30] good :) [03:30] service Xvnc is line 58 i put it theer though [03:30] copy the line for me? [03:31] i did read obove [03:31] above [03:31] ok [03:31] and after that was what i read to att to this file i may have not doen it right though [03:32] add omg cant type tpday sorry [03:32] i give up :d [03:32] probably. the error you are getting is when the mirrorlist can't update because it doesn't recognize that line. [03:32] service Xvnc [03:32] { [03:32] type = UNLISTED [03:32] disable = no [03:32] socket_type = stream [03:32] stunner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:32] protocol = tcp [03:32] you can comment it (add a # before it, first in line) and it will ignore it. [03:33] oh that's why! this is not supposed to be there. [03:33] remove all that from there, should be okay to update now. [03:35] ok seems i am up to date [03:35] good :) [03:35] yeah [03:40] ok man is manual top what is running and sudo is run something correct? [03:41] sudo is running something as administrator, or as we call it, root. [03:41] ok [03:41] but the rest is great. [03:42] reminds me of my old dos days :D [03:42] yeah :) most of the things you can do without the command line, but it's more efficient and quick, so a lot of us rely on it for most things. [03:42] is there a way to get a live konsolea konsole that tells me what im system is doing ? [03:43] yeah and i do like it its just confusing if you dont understand what you are doing :D [03:43] yeah, but you'll get there. We've all begun somewhere. :) [03:44] yeah i know [03:47] how come my standart browser wont load the urls that i want to open from the chat? i set fiorefox in firefox as default do i need to do that somewhere else as well? [03:47] depends on what you are using to connect to IRC> [03:48] quuassel was already installed [03:49] stunner, what does it use to launch the url? [03:49] rekonq [03:50] might want to look for alternative entries in /etc/alternatives [03:52] I'm reading there was a Quassel bug that ignored the browser, so might be that too. I suggest changing anyway to something better! try Xchat fo GUI or IRSSI if you want to experiment with CLI. [03:53] but I strongly suggests going with GUI first while you familiarise yourself. :p [03:53] i am new excalibr i understand you gave me a path but how i get there and than look for something i dont could you tell me what i need to do [03:54] When you use plasma-desktop, how do you hide the titlebar for maximized app window just like in plasma-netbook? [03:54] ahh ok well it was already installed though i went with it === stanley is now known as Guest48023 [03:55] stunner, ls -l /etc/alternatives/xxx-www-browser [03:55] x-www-browser [03:56] where does it point to? [03:57] /usr/bin/rekonq [03:57] and i need to change it to firefox is my quess? [03:58] quick question /usr is my home directory? [03:59] stunner, correct. change it with sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-brower [04:00] update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for x-www-brower [04:01] x-www-browser [04:01] oops [04:02] what is the difference between auto and manual mode? [04:04] usr isn't your home. /home is your home. [04:04] I got a question about repositories [04:04] yes MangaKaDenza? [04:04] is there a command line way to see which ones I'm using atm? [04:05] How do I use different themes for lightdm? I don't see any way to configure it? [04:05] Trel: it should be configurable in the control panel [04:05] MangaKaDenza: with two options, icons or no icons, that's not exactly an appearance change [04:06] Trel: well, I'd install some themes then [04:06] they should be findable in muon package manager [04:06] just search for lightdm [04:06] MangaKaDenza: I don't even see any results for lightdm themes in google... [04:06] stunner, im not so sure but I think it pertains to how the alternative systems handles the link when it no longer exists (as packages removed or installed). just select auto there just to be safe [04:06] try muon [04:07] (synaptic ok, or have to be muon?) [04:07] @excalibr thx [04:08] Trel: well, any package manager should work [04:08] I much prefer the UI of synaptic [04:08] but I like muon, as it doesn't lock dpkg when its used [04:09] MangaKaDenza: ok, I tried muon and synaptic, there's not a single theme for lightdm [04:09] I am I missing something? [04:10] You can pick a greeter type (unity-greeter, lightdm-gtk-greeter, ...) [04:11] greeters are not themes [04:12] Why exactly is KDM being depricated in favor of lightdm? It seems like it's not quite ready for prime time. [04:13] Trel: standardization I guess [04:13] It seems like a rather bad idea considering how much customization is lost. [04:14] I'll be right back, I'm testing something [04:15] hey ghil i asked before if there is a live konsole that i can follow while my system is doing something dont know if you missed it [04:16] stunner: er, could you clarify? [04:16] I might be able to help [04:16] sure [04:17] so... what do you want to do exactly? [04:17] i want to install a program with muon and it just pops up a window where i need to type my password than the window is gone and it does stuff and a while later the program is there i just was wondering if you can follow along what it is doing in the background [04:18] oh I did not see the message: stunner: depends on what it is doing, but most of the time if you start something on the terminal, it will verbose, so you will be able to follow along. [04:19] so for exemple: instead of installing it with muon, install it in CLI with the commandd sudo apt-get install yourapphereeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [04:19] herr....the multiple e was weird, I think Synergy is having hickups. :p [04:19] I was just about to ask about that [04:20] i would do it but i dont know ernough to figure this sudo apt-get to do it manually [04:20] i just want to install xchat like you suggested [04:20] it's really simple. when you know what you want to install, type sudo (root access) apt-get (the actual download program) install (duh) xchat [04:21] so in short: sudo apt-get install xchat [04:21] and watch it fly by. Muon and Synaptic are just front ends for apt-get after all. [04:21] ahh so it looks randomly for xchat in the internet and installs it? without knowing the actuall location of it? [04:22] not randomly. it will look in the repositories on the internet (you have a list of those in /etc/apt/sources.list) and will look only there. [04:23] ahh ok now it makes more sense [04:23] most of the distributions maintain repositories of programs ready to be installed on that particular distribution. [04:23] so sudo apt-get install xchat? [04:24] so you don't have to compile everything manually, which would be a pain. :P yes. [04:24] seems simple enough [04:24] it is really simple. [04:24] it's actually a lot less complicated than windows. [04:25] well that was the way i was thinking that it needs to know where to look but if it has a library than it all makes more sense [04:25] exactly [04:26] well that was easy :D [04:27] :) [04:27] i need to restart i shall return hopefully :D [04:31] yaya [04:31] yay [04:31] nice :) [04:32] ok and now get rid of quassel hmm sudo apt-XXX irc ckient? [04:34] no something with dev null [04:35] sudo apt-get remove quassel [04:36] gotta go to sleep though, but I'm sure someone else will take over. Night everyone :) [04:39] thank you ghil good night [04:45] top tells me 3 users one is guest one is me one root? [05:03] !commands [05:03] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [05:12] MangaKaDenza: you can see your repos in the /etc/ dir [05:13] stunner: yuo have a guest user? [05:14] well on my login sreen i could choose guest but i dont have the need for one really [05:14] i was just wondering top said i have 3 users [05:16] top - 00:15:57 up 46 min, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.17, 0.30 [05:32] stunner: root is a user too [05:32] yeah my question was just is that the amount of all users or the logged in ones? [05:33] root is always in the background running various things [05:33] I have 3 users as well, so I assume that is root, me and guest [05:34] ok good to know i am just new to this so i see those things and some bell rings in my head :D [05:34] there is a funny old command `whoami` which tells you who are logged in as [05:35] yes, if you remember msdos or cp/m, lots of the cli will seem familiar [05:35] oh yes i remember [05:35] dos 4.0 i had 40 mb hdd on my 286 with midi sound :D [05:36] also, if you have linux-only questions and no one answers here, I understand that ##linux is a good chan [05:36] here on freenode [05:36] !alis [05:36] alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* [05:37] lots of very knowledgeable people here, though [05:37] thanks have to check that out although i am not quite sure if i can distinguish the difference quite jet what is kubuntu and linux specific :D [05:38] sure [05:38] darn it still rekonq i though it was set to firefox now [05:38] it took me a good long while to figure out how the community is structured [05:39] you can set this in systemsettings [05:39] and try alt+f2 (krunner) to find stuff [05:39] Default applications is what you want [05:39] hey as long you understand they (the people that know things) are people like you and be nice to them [05:40] in systemsettings [05:40] yup [05:40] I started hanging out in the linuxchix IRC when I was still using windows, just to get oriented [05:41] from there I found freenode, and the KDE and Kubuntu channels [05:41] sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser is what i did before [05:41] ok, I've never used that command [05:41] so dunno [05:41] systemsettings is well laid out [05:42] but as i see it didnt change it in kde(?) [05:42] that could be [05:42] dunno [05:42] well i changet it in the systemsettings [05:42] also, you might have to log out and back into KDE to have it 'take' [05:43] i restarted the system before [05:43] ok [05:43] stunner: Linux is like your brian, Kubuntu's more like the flesh and bones that make you what you are. [05:43] For an analogy [05:43] restart is rarely necessary [05:43] Some would say Linux is probably the nervous system [05:43] yeah but i had to [05:43] ok [05:43] Also, stunner, did you check System Settings > Default Applications ? [05:44] yeah its just konsole and kde seem to be working together but not [05:44] yeah i just changed it there [05:44] Ah, sorry, didn't see the backlog. [05:44] all good [05:45] is it happening when you click on a link in Konsole or are you just trying to reconfigure `x-www-browser`? [05:45] oh man irc its been a long time [05:47] no before i was on quassel irc client and links in quassel was opening in requon or something like that so i asked how to change that and someone told me to use the x-www-browser to change that but kde seemed to not chenged it [05:47] xchat doesnt seem to open a browser at all when i click a link [05:48] xchat is a standalone application, not part of KDE [05:48] you probably have to configure that within xchat [05:48] * valorie favors Konversation [05:49] yeah i found an option but i have no clue how to set it up i need to do some research on that [05:49] atm its set to opera it seems [05:49] interesting [05:49] I haven't tried opera for years [05:50] !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)' [05:50] stunner: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:50] !opera [05:50] Opera is an advanced, fast and free (as in beer) web browser. It is packaged for easy installation into Ubuntu. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser [05:50] !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)' [05:50] stunner: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:50] the bot doesn't take arguments, I guess [05:50] nope lol [05:51] since opera is also a standalone application, ubottu is unlikely to know much anyway [05:51] stunner: that's within Quassel's settings, I'd presume. [05:52] the longer I use KDE, the more I tend to stick to KDE apps [05:52] Konversation's more tightly knit with KDE and respects KDE's desktop settings for opening links [05:52] except chromium [05:52] i like xchat seems to be not so cutesie [05:52] hopefuly, that'll change with Qt5 and the new Web rendering engine [05:53] for some reason, I took a dislike to xchat a long time ago [05:53] it works for what i need it seems to me a simple irc client [05:53] but choices are there for all of us, which is one of the great things about linux [05:54] stunner: I'd point you in the direction of Konversation, then. It's simpler and gets things done. [05:54] its just different from windows need some time to get used to it [05:54] I use both Konversation and weechat, but spend more time in Konversation [05:55] konvi <3 [05:55] hmm ok lets see if i remember how to get it installed [05:55] stunner: cli or gui? [05:55] heh [05:56] cli gui? [05:56] hehe [05:57] hehe [05:57] nah i miss the sidebar :D [05:57] i stay with xchat for now [05:58] stunner_: Konversation has that, you'd have to move the tabs to the left in the settings [05:58] by default, it's at the top (iirc) [05:58] i gotta check it oout [05:58] !konversation [05:58] piffle [05:59] lol [05:59] hmmm [05:59] !irc [05:59] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [06:00] pfff [06:00] !info konversation [06:00] konversation (source: konversation): user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5~rc1+git20130415-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 623 kB, installed size 2812 kB [06:00] not what i wanted to know, ubottu [06:01] the app docs are online for most of KDE's apps, no? [06:02] but i am proud of myself got my firefox running with my windows profile skype to work (i think) now i need to see how i get sc2 to work and vnc [06:02] http://userbase.kde.org/Konversation [06:02] sc2 works well; the kubuntu packagers often use it to build stuff [06:03] jalcine: yep; but ubottu doesn't seem to know about 'em [06:03] we are talking about starcraft 2? [06:03] sorry if i confused you [06:03] lol [06:03] stunner: konversation has its docs online at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/index.html [06:04] ok i will check it out but not now [06:04] ah, that is the online amazon.com system [06:04] i saw playonlinux supposed to work [06:05] !playonlinux [06:05] hmmm [06:06] !wine [06:06] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [06:06] !info playonlinux [06:06] playonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.1-1 (saucy), package size 1578 kB, installed size 3954 kB [06:06] wtf is dif bettwen kbuntu and regular ubuntu [06:06] the difference is KDE vs Unity desktop [06:06] ahhh [06:06] yeah unity is adware lol [06:06] there are also lots of other 'flavors' of ubuntu [06:06] maybei shud switch [06:07] xubuntu, lubuntu, etc. [06:08] stunner: check the wine-hq site for compatibility of SC2 on Ubuntu [06:09] yeah i have read about it already but its getting later in the day and so therefore i will do it tomorrow [06:09] no problem [06:09] i am just enjoying my achievements for the day lol [06:09] g'day stunner :) [06:10] oops konversation was still open [06:10] i will stay for a while still [06:10] i wont go to bed for a while just not in the mood for more stuff right now [06:12] !mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox 'openURL(%s,new-tab)' [06:12] stunner: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:13] url handler for xchat just in case someone needs it [06:17] :) [06:17] stunner: Wiki it! [06:17] no i got it to work [06:17] i just forget how irc works lol [06:18] its been like 6 years [06:19] anyone here? [06:19] i am but i dont think i can help you much === thomas is now known as Guest85291 [06:20] hmmm [06:21] Well I was wondering how how do i get the application tabs [06:21] like right click in a window title bar and select, tab to window [06:22] good morning + happy new year :) - does somebody know whats wrong with ~/.xsession-errors since 13.10(?) it's almost empty now [06:22] i have no idea sorry [06:26] stunner: Daskreech meant find the wiki article and add that command so others can find it [06:26] Programmer_: which application is this? [06:26] its now one [06:26] like when you right click on an application's title bar [06:26] Fa_1: Maybe you stopped having session errors? [06:27] not many people will search the logs of this channel for anything about xchat, since it isn't a KDE application [06:27] there is an open for "More options" [06:27] Programmer_: You right click on the application abr [06:27] an application's window titlebar... [06:28] that works for me in Konversation [06:28] should work in any KDE application [06:28] Programmer_: what do you get when youright click on the title bar? [06:28] ahh [06:28] Daskreech: that would be cool (: but no. even in this case there should be some kind of output in [06:28] yeah i am new to this linux thing :D [06:29] sorry daskreech i will see what i can find [06:29] move to desktop, minimize, maximize, etc. [06:29] Fa_1: When was the file last touched? [06:29] Programmer_: what window display manager are you using? [06:30] the default? [06:30] oh nvm, i think oxygen is the only thing that has this option [06:31] Daskreech: 11minutes ago (like it should be on - session start) .. i think that ubuntu has made some changes and the output will now end somewhere else.. but i dont know the right path [06:32] Fa_1: Oh. that's bad [06:32] Programmer_: Ah [06:32] you see it? [06:34] ohh .. found it ... its now in ~/.cache/upstart/startkde.log :/ [07:05] anyone Know where I can get a lst of non-devel communty websites for Kubuntu and KDE? :Please [07:08] bogfrog: are you looking for the userbase stuff? [07:09] http://userbase.kde.org [07:09] there is also the community wiki: http://community.kde.org === soee__ is now known as soee [07:10] ah, did you see my answer to you, bogfrog? [07:12] sorry had to logout I just visited and i'll start at the userbase thanK you valorie [07:12] cool [07:13] also: [07:13] there is also the community wiki: http://community.kde.org [07:18] can i run 2 sudo apt-get paralell [07:19] no, but you can do sudo command && sudo command-two [07:19] Hi people)) [07:19] I often do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [07:20] also: up-arrow gets you to commands you've used before [07:20] How can I install network-manager for Kubuntu 13.10 ? [07:20] big time-saver [07:20] !info network-manager [07:20] network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8.0-0ubuntu22 (saucy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1940 kB (Only available for linux-any) [07:21] I lost it. [07:21] sudo apt-get install network-manager [07:21] binali ^^^ [07:22] hmm sudo apt-get install network-manager? [07:22] Not working! [07:22] damn it too late but i am proud of myself [07:22] binali: what is the error message? [07:23] apt install it for GNOME. [07:23] I'm sorry, what? [07:23] And, it not working in KDE. [07:23] I see [07:24] gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gnome-bluetooth gnome-user-share network-manager network-manager-gnome [07:24] but, i need network-manager-kde [07:25] q [07:25] with plasma widget. [07:25] the widget is called Network Management [07:25] so that isn't a standalone application, it's just a widget [07:26] do you see the cashew on one end of your task bar? [07:26] hmm [07:26] click that and "add widget" [07:27] okay.. i try [07:27] hmm when the program i want to install is not in the lib how do i get it with the console anyway? [07:28] doesn't it offer to download it for you? [07:28] E: Unable to locate package 7zip [07:29]