[15:29] <Geochr> Happy new year everybody...
[15:36] <belkinsa> Thank you.
[15:36] <belkinsa> Happy New Year to you too, Geochr.
[20:01] <BobJonkman> Happy New Year, locoteams!
[20:37] <belkinsa> Thanks BobJonkman.
[20:47] <belkinsa> BobJonkman: ping
[20:48] <BobJonkman> belkinsa: pong!
[20:49] <belkinsa> I took some interest in your LoCo's plans for video meetings.  I would suggest that instead of tinychat, you could try chatb.org since it doesn't require accounts or anything but update browsers.
[20:50] <belkinsa> chatb.org runs on  webrtc.
[20:50] <BobJonkman> WebRTC looks to be full of promise
[20:51] <BobJonkman> I wonder if it interoperates with the WebRTC in Jitsi.
[20:51] <BobJonkman> Jitsi has a quite an impressive demo on YouTube
[20:51] <belkinsa> I have Jitsi on my computer, I should try connecting chatb.org
[20:52] <BobJonkman> I just looked at chatb.org at the URL you put on Discourse; didn't work for me 
[20:53] <belkinsa> The http://chatb.org/#ubuntu-ca ?
[20:53] <BobJonkman> (but I was using a locked down browser -- allowed Javascript, but has all kinds of other blocks for referer, ID string, &c.)
[20:53] <belkinsa> Ah.  I have my own issues.
[20:54] <belkinsa> I use my tablet and Firefox that is on it for chatb.org.
[20:54] <BobJonkman> Seems I have a connection with Chromium.  Come join me...
[20:55] <belkinsa> Give me a sec
[20:56] <belkinsa> There
[20:58] <omnidan> wait, does chatb.org allow multiple people to talk to each other?
[20:58] <omnidan> like, more than two
[20:58] <belkinsa> I think so.
[20:58] <omnidan> and it works fully peer-to-peer?
[20:59] <omnidan> well, a small server to maintain the IDs
[20:59] <omnidan> but the audio/video stream
[20:59] <belkinsa> Maybe you should come and check?
[21:00] <omnidan> I can't atm, but can somebody link me to the source?
[21:00] <omnidan> I mean like
[21:00] <omnidan> git repo or so
[21:01] <belkinsa> You don't need it, just a browser will do and this link: http://chatb.org/#ubuntu-ca
[21:01] <omnidan> *sigh*
[21:01] <belkinsa> Is there a problem?
[21:01] <omnidan> you do realize that javascript can be uglified
[21:01] <omnidan> which means the actual source is not visible
[21:02] <omnidan> comments and everything is stripped
[21:02] <belkinsa> Oh
[21:02] <omnidan> hmm
[21:02] <omnidan> "wsHost": "wss://chatb.org:2680",
[21:03] <omnidan> https://chatb.org/js/index.js isn't uglified :P
[21:03] <omnidan> ok then
[21:03] <belkinsa> BobJonkman, let me restart my tablet
[21:03] <BobJonkman> OK
[21:04] <omnidan> doesn't seem to be p2p
[21:04] <belkinsa> Huh.
[21:04] <omnidan> it uses a server for streaming
[21:04] <omnidan> *central server
[21:05] <omnidan> I want something like this but with http://peerjs.com/
[21:06] <belkinsa> We have three now.
[21:06] <belkinsa> But I see no video
[21:07] <belkinsa> I just have mic on
[21:09] <belkinsa> Bah, I blame Internet connection on this...
[21:10] <belkinsa> Maybe just use mic?
[21:11] <belkinsa> Well, um, that was a try
[21:12] <BobJonkman> I have two sessions running now, but no video from one to the other. So, most likely not P2P, but all connecting to a central server
[21:12] <belkinsa> Could be.
[21:52] <belkinsa> omnidan, you can do chatb.org with more than two.
[21:56] <omnidan> belkinsa: yeah, but it's not p2p
[21:56] <belkinsa> What difference does it make?
[22:11] <omnidan> uh
[22:11] <omnidan> less load on the server
[22:11] <omnidan> no central server required
[22:11] <omnidan> streams between peers, server can't sniff
[22:14] <belkinsa> Oh.  I see.
[22:15] <omnidan> belkinsa: I was working on adding hub/leaf support to peerjs so I can create something like that for hackathons, but p2p
[22:15] <omnidan> oh also p2p means less traffic when in a local network
[22:16] <omnidan> *less traffic to the global internet*
[22:16] <omnidan> and that'd be useful at hackathons
[22:18] <belkinsa> I see.