[02:41] <rag3> while trying to install ubuntu-touch using ubuntu dual boot on nexus 4 (4.4.2) i constantly get missing update command error. Help please?
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[05:38] <Angel_of_Sorrow> hi
[05:39] <Angel_of_Sorrow> i was after some information about ubuntu on touch devices?
[05:39] <dhruvasagar> Angel_of_Sorrow: just ask
[05:39] <Angel_of_Sorrow> can i run ubuntu on a touch device?>
[05:39] <Angel_of_Sorrow> does it work for all/none?
[05:40] <dhruvasagar> potentially it works on all, but obviously has been tested only on a small subset
[05:40] <Angel_of_Sorrow> so it's still in development stage?
[05:41] <dhruvasagar> Angel_of_Sorrow: I guess so, they have plans of releasing dedicated devices with ubuntu installed but I am not sure when that would materialize
[05:41] <dhruvasagar> Angel_of_Sorrow: you could try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation
[05:42] <Angel_of_Sorrow> ah cool
[05:42] <Angel_of_Sorrow> would be awesome
[05:42] <dhruvasagar> yea, I would be trying that soon myself :)
[05:42] <Angel_of_Sorrow> i may wait
[05:42] <Angel_of_Sorrow> get one that comes with unity installed
[05:42] <Angel_of_Sorrow> would be sweeet
[05:43] <dhruvasagar> indeed
[05:43] <Angel_of_Sorrow> so i take it you have no estimated date?
[05:43] <Angel_of_Sorrow> i suppose the longer the wait...the better the overal product
[05:43] <dhruvasagar> not that I know of
[05:44] <Angel_of_Sorrow> i know they sell ubuntu on laptops....why not tablets already?
[05:44] <Angel_of_Sorrow> after all Unity is made for touch right?
[05:44] <dhruvasagar> Angel_of_Sorrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices gives a list of supported devices
[05:44] <Angel_of_Sorrow> ill check it out
[05:44] <Angel_of_Sorrow> ty
[05:44] <dhruvasagar> Angel_of_Sorrow: well Ubuntu Touch is optimized for touch, unity is a major chunk but I am sure there is a lot more to it
[05:45] <Angel_of_Sorrow> yeah cool
[05:45] <Angel_of_Sorrow> seems like its still in early stages
[05:46] <Angel_of_Sorrow> do you know how long they've been working on tablets?
[05:46] <dhruvasagar> yea a long way to go yet
[05:46] <dhruvasagar> Angel_of_Sorrow: I am not sure, it's been a year or so I think
[05:47] <Angel_of_Sorrow> ah
[05:47] <Angel_of_Sorrow> cool
[05:47] <Angel_of_Sorrow> i wonder how it would compare with android?
[05:48] <dhruvasagar> Angel_of_Sorrow: it's too early for me to say, but I have faith in the community, I will be trying it out solely for the fact that I will have more control over my device
[05:48] <dhruvasagar> Angel_of_Sorrow: more control yields more power :)
[05:49] <Angel_of_Sorrow> exactly
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> look on OMGubuntu for latest ubuntu/touch news guys
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> alot of usefull stuff on there
[05:49] <Angel_of_Sorrow> can you make telephone calls on tablets?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> like dualboot android/touch
[05:50] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: cool
[05:50] <Angel_of_Sorrow> will you be able to make telphone calls on the end product?
[05:50] <Angel_of_Sorrow> ubuntu i mean
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Angel_of_Sorrow: i hear ubuntu phones comming up halfway 2014
[05:51] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: sounds good
[05:51] <Angel_of_Sorrow> nice
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> also nexus devices are best supported for touch atm
[05:51] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: lucky I have a nexus! :D
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> but ive read many users install 13.10 on their tablets too
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> dhruvasagar: wich one mate?
[05:53] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: nexus 4
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> nicely
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> if i would be sure it runs a little smoother, would buy me a nexus aswell
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> but i hear touch got a little rough edges still..
[05:54] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: smoother in comparison to what ?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> they still working on it right
[05:55] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: what do you mean ?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> im already happy devs got this far..
[05:55] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: they've released nexus 5
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> it means touch not working perfect yet on any device
[05:56] <dhruvasagar> ok
[05:57] <Angel_of_Sorrow> hopfully soon
[05:57] <Angel_of_Sorrow> lots of apps
[05:57] <Angel_of_Sorrow> i hope they all work
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Angel_of_Sorrow: well on nexus devices it might run nice, but not perfect
[05:58] <Angel_of_Sorrow> would all apps continue to function the same on tablets?
[05:58] <Ramu> Has Ubuntu 13.1 been ported to ZaTab (a tablet developed by ZaReason http://www.zareason.com)?
[05:59] <Angel_of_Sorrow> is that what thye're aiming for?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu touch is another Os, so im not sure how android apps will act on it?
[05:59] <Ramu> ZaReason currently runs Android
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> open and hackable tablet :p
[06:00] <Ramu> correct
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> did you test yourself?
[06:00] <Angel_of_Sorrow> You all work for Brother Miguel, so that you may keep me his.
[06:01] <Ramu> "Open and Hackable Tablet" is still in "to be verified" status (I have "trusted" it :-)
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> okay
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> cant wait ubuntu runs smooth on a tablet :p
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> meanwhile im running ubuntu on ssd netbook very fast
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[07:42] <j-b> daker: yeah, I might have :)
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[09:13] <lool> j-b: hehe, so you've tried the dual boot android/touch setup?  :-)
[09:14] <lool> j-b: Yeah I understand the desire to avoid qt for audio output; it's kind of problematic that we didn't provide a C level stable API so far, pulseaudio is likely going to be it though; we might have to review what the socket connection allows exactly though
[09:22] <tvoss_> lool, hey there :)
[09:26] <JamesTait> Good morning all, Happy New Year! :-D
[09:30] <j-b> lool: well, the dual boot does not work for me, because my phone is encrypted...
[09:30] <j-b> lool: and I'll go through the Pulse route
[09:31] <tvoss_> j-b, did you have a chance to take a look at Jim's media codec approach?
[09:31] <j-b> tvoss_: yep.
[09:31] <j-b> tvoss_: seems doable for us.
[09:31] <j-b> tvoss_: no idea how to do the GPU-direct-rendering yet, though
[09:32] <j-b> but this is not the blocker :)
[09:33] <tvoss_> j-b, you pass in a texture id, and video is directly decoded to that handle
[09:34] <j-b> tvoss_: sure, but it's a bit more complex from our side :)
[09:34] <j-b> tvoss_: and I did not see that in Jim's code.
[09:34] <j-b> tvoss_: but don't worry, all seems more-or-less good for us
[09:34] <j-b> And since we're a bit bored by Android...
[09:34] <tvoss_> j-b, cool, let me know if you need anything else
[09:35] <j-b> tvoss_: yes, I do need time
[09:35] <j-b> can you send me some?
[09:35] <j-b> :D
[09:35] <tvoss_> j-b, out of that here, too :)
[09:36] <j-b> tvoss_: I'll see if I could find some sponsors for the work...
[09:37] <lool> tvoss_: hey  :-)
[10:57] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:59] <FuLgOrE_> good morning
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[14:26] <cwayne> welcome back everyone, and happy 2014!
[14:26] <sam___> hey guyz
[14:27] <sam___> hey ted
[14:28] <davmor2> cwayne: back atcha dude
[14:28] <sam___> guyz, i have a micromax canvass turbo, quad core 1.5Ghz, 2GB ram,   can i install ubuntu touch on it ??
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[14:59] <cwayne> balloons, hey, i've got a question about gallery-app autopilot tests, would you be the right one to ask?
[15:05] <KKS> anyone here?
[15:07] <KKS> hello???
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[15:20] <boiko> mterry: hey, I'm curious about the changes you have done to telephony-service
[15:20] <boiko> mterry: happy new year, btw ;)
[15:28] <untitled1> I want to be able to install things with out messing up by boot parameters. how to so this ?
[15:29] <j-b> daker: yep, the encyrption is the issue
[15:29] <untitled1> userdata/.writable_image    << this messes up boot stuff I just spent 3 hours manual redoing my boot partitions/
[15:30] <untitled1> is there old images still out there that boot android then chroot insto Ubuntu ?
[15:30] <untitled1> that is the olny thing that I can think of that will work
[15:30] <untitled1> any thoughts are helpful thanks a bunch.  :)
[15:33] <guest[]> hi guys, anyone ever used a phone with ubuntu touch?
[15:33] <dednick> does anyone know what starts powerd on phone?
[15:33] <untitled1> I think that this might be in clear violation of LGPL
[15:34] <kaimast> hi mardy! is there a way to debug the online accounts stuff. can i find a log of it somewhere?
[15:34] <guest[]> ok gotcha, found everything here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[15:34] <untitled1> sorry wrong channel
[15:36] <untitled1> But for real if there is still non flipped images out there I would like that as I do not like the new ones.  I can not customize anything on them. It is like being locked in the basement of buffalo bobs house. well maybe not that bad
[15:37] <untitled1> example: say that I would like to add a feature to Unity8 or to the phone app.  I have downloaded all the source and hacked away and like what I got.  But I CAN NOT install it to the device.
[15:38] <untitled1> because things like qmake or cmake are not installed.  and can not be installed !
[15:39] <pmcgowan> untitled1, you can make the image writeable, it just prevents using the standard system updater
[15:39] <untitled1> example: get the unity8 code and run "run_on_device"   I can not do this
[15:39] <untitled1> pmcgowan: yeah but it kills boot
[15:39] <pmcgowan> how so?
[15:40] <untitled1> pmcgowan: that is what I am not sure of.  It just keeps bonking my n4
[15:41] <untitled1> example I install cmake and qt5-default  this brings in other deps.  Next time I boot the phone it will not boot at all I have to reboot into bootloader then reinstall
[15:41] <pmcgowan> hmm
[15:41] <untitled1> for Unity 8 or contacts ^^
[15:42] <pmcgowan> that should work fine, but have you checked out the new cross compilation work?
[15:42] <mterry> boiko, hello!  Sorry, was out for a quick breakfast
[15:42] <untitled1> pmcgowan: no what is this ?
[15:42] <untitled1> the new cross compilation work?
[15:43] <pmcgowan> it was described well on the mailing list, let em see if I can find a link
[15:43] <untitled1> sbuilder ?
[15:43] <untitled1> thanks pmcgowan
[15:45] <mardy> kaimast: hi! Yes, there is: edit /etc/signond.conf and set the logging level to 2
[15:45] <pmcgowan> untitled1, see this thread https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg05556.html
[15:45] <mardy> kaimast: then, you can "export SSOUI_LOGGING_LEVEL=2" and "export SSOUI_DAEMON_TIMEOUT=5000", and start signon-ui from a terminal to see logs from it as well
[15:46] <untitled1> thanks pmcgowan reading now
[15:46] <xnox> is there a way to disable demo-edges at image generation time, e.g. ahead of first boot?
[15:46] <xnox> e.g. flipping the default to off somehow?
[15:46] <untitled1> pmcgowan: yeah I have tried this but it does nothing
[15:47] <pmcgowan> untitled1, actually xnox could answer questions for you
[15:47] <untitled1> pmcgowan: this is more for chrooting and what not I think ....
[15:47] <xnox> pmcgowan: hm? =)
[15:47] <untitled1> Hi xnox I have many questions about install build-deps to the phone to test out software before release
[15:48] <untitled1> I can not install build-deps because it borks boot
[15:48] <untitled1> borks= messes up
[15:48] <popey> untitled1: I frequently install build-deps on my nexus 4, works fine
[15:48] <pmcgowan> xnox, the edge thing is controlled by a config setting, this is how I re-enable it ...
[15:48] <untitled1> I have tried to make into writable_image and install thhis borks things up
[15:48] <untitled1> popey: HOw ?
[15:49] <pmcgowan> adb shell dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Accounts /org/
[15:49] <pmcgowan> freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set string:com.ca
[15:49] <pmcgowan> nonical.unity.AccountsService string:demo-edges variant:boolean:true
[15:49] <xnox> untitled1: that's unfortunate. Have you tried installing ubuntu-dev-tools and using e.g. pbuilder to create a chroot and do all build-deps installations / compilations there?
[15:49] <popey> untitled1: make it writable, install cmake... worked for me last time I did it last week
[15:49] <untitled1> popey: you can run sudo apt-get build-deps unity8     ?
[15:49] <kaimast> mardy: thanks. that works :)
[15:49] <xnox> pmcgowan: yeah, I know that, but for the emulator i'd ideally tweak my sdcard image such that even the first boot does not launch that.
[15:49] <untitled1> xnox: that is great but how to test on the device ?
[15:50] <xnox> pmcgowan: how does the result of that dbus command stored persistently.
[15:50] <untitled1> popey: did not work for me borked boot and had to re-flash did it 4 times to test before I ended up here
[15:50] <mardy> kaimast: forgot to say, that you'll see the signon-ui logs in the terminal (obviously), but the signond logs will go to the syslog
[15:50] <xnox> untitled1: i mean using a chroot on the device for compilation. Once you have .deb you should be able to simply unpack them and run from home-directory. Even better, you can generate chroot on your host machine and just push the chroot onto the device, whilst keeping it read-only the whole time.
[15:50] <pmcgowan> xnox, dunno, must be a way to set it false by default
[15:51] <popey> untitled1: i agree with xnox, using a chroot would be preferable (faster)
[15:51] <untitled1> xnox: popey  cool ! is there a guide for this ?
[15:52] <untitled1> I am new to chroot but not c++ not qt
[15:53] <untitled1> Like how to generate chroot on host machine so that I can push chroot to machine , sadly I don't know what that means
[15:53] <kaimast> mardy: ok. just wondering, why doesn't the signon stuff run as an upstart-service in the user session?
[15:53] <dednick> ricmm: ping
[15:54] <mardy> kaimast: it's using the D-Bus activation, I didn't find a need to tie it to upstart so far
[15:54] <mhall119> beuno: is it possible for me to upload a click package using my com.ubuntu.developer.mhall119 user account, but attribute it to a different author than myself?
[15:55] <ricmm> dednick givr me a bit
[15:55] <ricmm> at the doc
[15:56] <dednick> ricmm: no prob
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[15:57] <daker> j-b: bug 1262778 :(
[15:57] <ubot5> bug 1262778 in The Humpolec project "Ubuntu will not boot if phone data is encrypted" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1262778
[15:57] <untitled1> ^^ that would be easy to make a warning for in the script ?
[16:01] <untitled1> xnox: I keep on getting this in the <packagename>-<version>_armf-build      "W: No chroots are defined in ‘/etc/schroot/schroot.conf’ or ‘/etc/schroot/chroot.d’
[16:01] <untitled1> "
[16:02] <untitled1> this is after doing this https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg05556.html
[16:03] <dednick> ricmm|sick: unping. found what i was looking for :)
[16:06] <untitled1> Here is a log  from last Night on a test package  (its just a simple metapackage)
[16:06] <untitled1> http://pastebin.com/snbjHLAD
[16:12] <kaimast> mardy: can i also use any url for the redirect url?
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[16:29] <skogshuggarn> Hello! I'm using a galaxy s3 (i9300) phone. And I'm really interested in using ubuntu on it. Although the version that is available today (http://tinyurl.com/m57p74z) does not support GSM/phone calls. Is it hard to fix, since the nexus 4 can handle it? My hope is that it's just a matter of recompile the nexus 4 code for i9300, to make it work. Can someone explain the issue, and please report if there is a solution ready?
[16:39] <davmor2> cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1265564
[16:39] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1265564 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Regression: Maguro network-manager disconnects from wifi ap" [Medium,New]
[16:43] <untitled1> xnox: sorry to bother you but I am stuck I have installed a armf-trusty   on my host machine now and am installing the deps that are needed for packaging.  after I bould the package inso the schroot how do I then push it to the device and where should I push it.    like     adb push  trusty-i386-armhf /home/phablet/             ?   again sorry to b
[16:43] <untitled1> other you
[16:43] <untitled1> sbould|build
[16:44] <xnox> untitled1: trusty-i386-armhf will not run on the phone, that indicates a i386 native chroot, setup for cross-compilation to armhf without native armhf execution capabilities.
[16:44] <untitled1> er so I have to re set up the armhf
[16:45] <untitled1> I am using the command   "mk-sbuild --target armhf trusty"
[16:45] <untitled1> on my host which is also trusty but i386
[16:45] <xnox> untitled1: i can recommend a one-time setup $ mk-sbuild --arch armhf trusty ; that will setup a native armhf chroot (with emulation enabled to natively execute). After that on your normal desktop you can complie armhf packages native with $ sbuild -A -d trusty --arch armhf mypackage*.dsc
[16:45] <xnox> untitled1: this will result in _armhf.deb files.
[16:46] <untitled1> Sweet ! xnox thanks so much I dont mean to be a bother I just want to "get this show on the road "
[16:46] <untitled1> --arch is what I was missing
[16:46] <untitled1> after that how do I push to device and install ?
[16:46] <xnox> untitled1: next you have two options: push those to device, mark the device read-write, reboot and install those. _OR_ you can simply unpack debs with $ dpkg-deb -R *.deb unpacked/ and then replace only individual binaries or execute the application manually via adb.
[16:47] <untitled1> cool
[16:48] <untitled1> xnox: your great. you deserve a golden star !
[16:50] <untitled1> chroot is cool I guess that I am going to have to learn more about lxc containers next
[16:52] <cwayne> untitled1, stgraber's been writing a lot of awesome blog posts about LXC, those would be a good read
[16:53] <untitled1> cwayne: links ?
[16:55] <cwayne> untitled1, https://www.stgraber.org/2013/12/20/lxc-1-0-blog-post-series/
[16:56] <untitled1> I do know one thing I feel a lot better now that I know I can use cmake/qt/c++/whatever to make apps then  install them.  it was the install part that I was so confused about.
[16:57] <untitled1> thanks cwayne
[17:09] <kaimast> yeah, robru is back from holidays :P
[17:09] <robru> kaimast, just woke up ;-)
[17:11] <skogshuggarn> Hello! I'm using a galaxy s3 (i9300) phone. And I'm really interested in using ubuntu on it. Although the version that is available today (http://tinyurl.com/m57p74z) does not support GSM/phone calls. Is it hard to fix, since the nexus 4 can handle it? My hope is that it's just a matter of recompile the nexus 4 code for i9300, to make it work. Can someone explain the issue, and please report if there is a solution ready?
[17:12] <guro99> hey kaimast, anything interesting about xmpp on UT?
[17:14] <kaimast> guro99: I am currently playing around with the online accounts code, so hopefully you will be able so setup you xmpp account on utouch sometime in the future
[17:14] <kaimast> still a long way to actually using xmpp though :(
[17:14] <kaimast> people on google+ seem to be more interested in whatsapp m(
[17:36] <greyback> skogshuggarn: I think most of the people who can help you are still on holidays. Best way to catch people's eyes would be to send mail to the ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net mailing list
[17:39] <skogshuggarn> greyback: Okay, I see. Thank you for the answer!
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[18:35] <ritz> hi,can't install ubuntu-sdk on trusty
[18:36] <ritz> http://pastebin.com/nD4u0qJM
[18:38] <ritz> someone needs to rebuild qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu-cordova ?
[18:53] <kenvandine> ritz: looks like the binary was removed from the package
[18:53] <kenvandine> holding it up in proposed
[18:53] <kenvandine> robru, ^^
[18:53] <kenvandine> i guess Mirv isn't around...
[18:54] <kenvandine> from the changelog that doesn't look intentional
[18:59] <ritz> someone needs to rebuild qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu-cordova ?
[19:00] <ritz> bhaa
[19:00] <ritz> ignore
[19:05] <ritz> any plans for qml binding for Unity.Indicator
[19:05] <ritz> or would this have to be a part of ubuntu touch core sdk itself
[19:08] <pmcgowan> ritz dont think so as the indicator space is limited, do you have a use case in mind?
[19:08] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, I think that package was deprecated in favor of a new one with -common
[19:09] <ritz> pmcgowan, not much. I was thinking of desktop indicators
[19:09] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, the changelog doesn't really reflect that, and ubuntu-sdk still depends on the cordova package
[19:09] <ritz> given that unity8 will work from watches/mobile to desktop
[19:09] <pmcgowan> yeah that could make sense, no qml binding I know of yet
[19:09] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, that seems bad
[19:09] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, so it's blocked in -proposed
[19:09] <pmcgowan> alex-abreu, you there? ^^
[19:10] <ritz> and qml-dbus binding seems to be nice, if I want to implement my own brightness or network mgmt applet
[19:10] <kenvandine> if it's intentional, that's fine we just need to fix up the depends properly
[19:10] <ritz> or any other quick hack
[19:11] <pmcgowan> ritz yeah I agree, let me check on it, maybe email the list
[19:11] <davmor2> cyphermox: any news on why n-m is randomly dropping my wifi connection?
[19:11]  * kenvandine hugs -proposed :)
[19:11] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, I dont see that ubuntu-sdk still deps on it?
[19:12] <kenvandine> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[19:12] <ritz> this one - https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/‎
[19:12] <ritz>  ?
[19:12] <pmcgowan> ritz yes
[19:12] <kenvandine> it's not getting promoted out of -proposed because of ubuntu-sdk
[19:12] <ritz> thanks
[19:13] <kenvandine> pmcgowan,  it's in rdepends
[19:13] <pmcgowan> on my system sdk depends on the plugin, which depends on cordova-common
[19:14] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, and I have no plugin-cordova since common conflicts/replaces it
[19:14] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, apt-cache policy ubuntu-sdk
[19:15] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, latest is in the PPA
[19:15] <kenvandine> right
[19:15] <kenvandine> trusty version depends on it
[19:15] <pmcgowan> ack
[19:15] <pmcgowan> needs the fix from the ppa then
[19:15] <ritz> the brightness applet seems to be accessing /sys files directly rather than using helpers or dbus to talk to the helper app
[19:17] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, the package uploaded to trusty-proposed also doesn't seem to have the conflicts/replaces
[19:17] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, looks like we need mirv then
[19:17] <pmcgowan> or maybe if alex-abreu knows
[19:17] <pmcgowan> not sure why the package name changed
[19:18] <kenvandine> looks like it was just removed
[19:18] <kenvandine> so they are in the same binary package
[19:18] <Dandel> I have a device i'm wanting to look into porting to ( Has a lot in common with the nexus 7 ( Tegra 3 version) )
[19:19] <Dandel> the device seems to be unlocked to begin with ( seeing as how fastboot works easily ) and the vendor already has the kernel sources released.
[19:26] <cyphermox> davmor2: I updated the bug
[19:27] <davmor2> cyphermox: oh nice hadn't scrolled down enough ;)
[19:27] <cyphermox> I just did
[19:28] <davmor2> cyphermox: thanks dude
[19:30] <Dandel> any ideas on what I should do exactly? I figure that it would be useful in getting more devices supported if there is a light weight ramdisk that could be used to get basic functionality working.
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[20:48] <mhall119> bzoltan1: Kaleo: either of you working today?
[20:48]  * mhall119 recognizes that it's late for both
[20:55] <dobey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6680698/ <- wtf? :(
[20:56] <dobey> which of those things should i file that bug against?
[20:59] <bzoltan1> mhall119 : I was working today,and I am still online
[21:00] <daker> dobey: well i guess the webbrowser-app
[21:02] <dobey> daker: no, looks like multiple bugs against libunity-webapps
[21:03] <daker> ok
[21:05] <mhall119> bzoltan1: hey, so for the Ambiance theme, is there a "chameleon" color derived from the background?
[21:06] <mhall119> bzoltan1: also, is the orange highlight color hard-coded, a setting, or will it somehow be derived from the background as well?
[21:06] <bzoltan1> mhall119:  not as I know
[21:06] <bzoltan1> mhall119:  I will ask zsombi
[21:07] <mhall119> thanks bzoltan1
[21:07] <mhall119> was there any direction from the design team on how these should work?
[21:14] <lprofil_> good evening
[21:15] <lprofil_> how do i reboot ubuntu-phone on my nexus-4?
[21:15] <lprofil_> haven found the "reboot" oder "reboot 2 android" menu
[21:15] <lprofil_> haven't*
[21:18] <bzoltan1> mhall119:  I have not seen anything, but maybe Kaleo or zsombi knows more then I do :)
[21:23] <lprofil_> zoltan from Hungary?
[21:23] <lprofil_> ubuntu is quiet famous over there
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[21:28] <bzoltan1> lprofil_: I am Hungarian :) yes, but right now I am in Finland.
[21:29] <mah454> Hello
[21:29] <mah454> I need your help
[21:29] <mah454> I use Samsung Galexy S4 (i9500)
[21:29] <mah454> I dameged recover mode and internal storage with bad "dd" command !!!!
[21:30] <mah454> How can repartition internal storage and install bootloader on this ?
[21:31] <mah454> Note : My phone have not recovery mode .
[21:32] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, I am still confused about the issue in proposed with the sdk, can you explain again
[21:32] <pmcgowan> was trying to explain to bzoltan1 but not sure
[21:33] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, ubuntu-sdk in trusty has a depends on qtcreator-plugins-ubuntu-cordova
[21:33] <bzoltan1> kenvandine:  There is an MR for it...
[21:33] <kenvandine> the latest upload of qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu to trusty-proposed has dropped that package
[21:33] <kenvandine> bzoltan1, cool, for which project?
[21:33] <bzoltan1> kenvandine:  https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-seeds/remove_qtc_cordova.trusty/+merge/199219
[21:33] <pmcgowan> cool then I did say it right
[21:34] <kenvandine> oh... a MP for the seed
[21:34] <bzoltan1>  kenvandine: is not it right?
[21:34] <kenvandine> well those are a little special
[21:34] <bzoltan1>  kenvandine, pmcgowan: the MR was reviewed and approved by Mirv
[21:34] <kenvandine> like we do checkouts instead of branching
[21:34] <kenvandine> and commit online
[21:35] <kenvandine> so i suspect nobody saw this
[21:35]  * kenvandine looks
[21:35] <pmcgowan> bzoltan1, how do we get the cordova plugin now if sdk has no dependency?
[21:35] <bzoltan1> kenvandine: Wow... that is special
[21:35] <kenvandine> indeed :)
[21:35] <bzoltan1> pmcgowan:  The QtC Cordova plugin is migrated to the Ubuntu plugin... the Cordova runtime is still listed as SDK dependency
[21:35] <Laney> Would be good to say why in the description too; you can tell it's removing that package from looking at the diff ;-)
[21:36] <pmcgowan> bzoltan1, got it
[21:37] <bzoltan1> Laney:  that is a true
[21:38] <untitled1> Is there any way to package in a chroot that does not use OptiPNG ?
[21:39] <untitled1> takes forever and I only have like 10 images
[21:42] <Laney> there's a configuration file for it, hang on
[21:43] <kenvandine> bzoltan1, pmcgowan: i updated the seed (merged the branch)
[21:43] <kenvandine> i'll update the meta package once that has synced
[21:43] <pmcgowan> thanks
[21:43] <bzoltan1> kenvandine: fantastic! thanks
[21:48] <Laney> untitled1: I think I've disabled pkgstripfiles completely by editing /etc/pkgbinarymangler/stripfiles.conf
[21:48] <untitled1> thanks Laney
[21:54] <kenvandine> bzoltan1, pmcgowan: i've uploaded the meta package, should unclog the pipes :)
[21:54] <bzoltan1> kenvandine: thank you Ken :) I can go to sleep now
[21:54] <kenvandine> np
[21:54] <kenvandine> good night :)
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[22:40] <stiggy> I see ubuntu for tablets is supported on intel x86, so would i work on a acer inconia w700 which has a icore 5
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