| === emma_ is now known as em | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 07:08 |
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| === SuperMat1 is now known as SuperMatt | ||
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: ping | 07:12 |
| SuperMatt | morning | 07:12 |
| MooDoo | going to pm you ok? | 07:12 |
| SuperMatt | ok | 07:12 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: ps morning :D | 07:15 |
| SuperMatt | morning -.- | 07:15 |
| SuperMatt | I think I might be too ill for work today | 07:19 |
| SuperMatt | but I think I should show up, at least to make it known how ill I am and I'm not just skipping work until I start my new job >.< | 07:19 |
| MooDoo | then get sent home, the best way imo | 07:20 |
| SuperMatt | yarr | 07:20 |
| foobarry | theres been a weird illness going round | 07:32 |
| foobarry | stomach pains, feeling nauseous for few days | 07:33 |
| MooDoo | foobarry: father in law has that now, and my daughter had it last week :( | 07:33 |
| foobarry | i had ut too | 07:36 |
| foobarry | any other symptoms? | 07:37 |
| arsen | hihi - Happy New Year all :) | 07:37 |
| MooDoo | not that I can think of, the odd chest pain, but that could just be the father in law, daughter didn't seem to have that. | 07:38 |
| foobarry | my baby has bad cold too :( | 07:38 |
| MooDoo | booo | 07:42 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 07:54 |
| MooDoo | hello MartijnVdS | 07:54 |
| MartijnVdS | Happy new year everyone :) | 07:55 |
| MooDoo | You too! | 07:55 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:14 |
| MooDoo | morning diplo | 08:15 |
| diplo | I had that stomach bug as well, just read up | 08:16 |
| diplo | I had it for 3-4 weeks, felt like I was having a heat attack at one point | 08:16 |
| diplo | I believe it was indigestion from whatever I had.. others had it for a week or so but I've been quite ill for some time so probably not the best person to gauge it on | 08:17 |
| dwatkins | morning folks | 08:20 |
| MooDoo | morning | 08:22 |
| SuperMatt | oh what a world | 08:44 |
| dwatkins | are you melting, SuperMatt? | 08:45 |
| SuperMatt | I might as well be | 08:46 |
| dwatkins | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So | 08:47 |
| SuperMatt | I'm assuming that's a video of the wicked witch melting? | 08:48 |
| dwatkins | yeah, in case anyone didn't get my reference or yours | 08:49 |
| andylockran | morning all | 08:49 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:11 |
| bashrc | hi | 09:15 |
| === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia | ||
| JamesTait | Good morning all, Happy New Year! :-D | 09:26 |
| popey | Morning. | 09:26 |
| bashrc | Happy new 2014 | 09:26 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 09:27 |
| bashrc | it's the future already | 09:27 |
| MartijnVdS | 🎉 | 09:27 |
| MartijnVdS | (U+1F389) | 09:28 |
| bashrc | is that a bat signal? | 09:29 |
| JamesTait | I thought whatever font I'm using in my terminal had just about every Unicode symbol going, but that one confused it. :-P | 09:30 |
| SuperMatt | I'm using the ubuntu font in my terminal | 09:30 |
| SuperMatt | mostly because it's actually a good monospace font | 09:30 |
| SuperMatt | 0Oo1IlL <- if any of this is confusing, I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but my typeface ain't one | 09:31 |
| JamesTait | I suspect I am too. | 09:31 |
| SuperMatt | interesting, in ubuntu mono the uppercase l is larger than lowercase | 09:32 |
| SuperMatt | wait, that's wrong | 09:32 |
| popey | yes | 09:32 |
| SuperMatt | the lowercase l is larger than the upper case | 09:33 |
| JamesTait | So it is! | 09:33 |
| MartijnVdS | JamesTait: Do you use screen or tmux? Because screen gets confused by newer (higher) characters | 09:33 |
| SuperMatt | I wonder what the decision was behind that | 09:33 |
| MartijnVdS | behind breaking UTF-8 in Screen? | 09:34 |
| MartijnVdS | To get people to move to tmux of course ;) | 09:34 |
| JamesTait | MartijnVdS, I use irssi through screen, so that might be it. | 09:34 |
| MartijnVdS | JamesTait: I use byobu + tmux, which does support those characters | 09:34 |
| MartijnVdS | JamesTait: it's http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f389/index.htm basically ;) | 09:34 |
| MartijnVdS | (the bug is http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?38944) | 09:34 |
| SuperMatt | I just want to know who comes up with these things | 09:35 |
| SuperMatt | any why, specifically, we need them | 09:35 |
| JamesTait | Party popper! | 09:35 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: the emojis etc.? So they can map *every* symbol set that existed before to unicode | 09:35 |
| SuperMatt | right right, but surely there's a huge number of pictogarms? do we really need a party popper? | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: they existed before as a standard set, in Japanese phones | 09:37 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: https://sites.google.com/site/unicodesymbols/Home/emoji-symbols/proposal-text | 09:37 |
| JamesTait | Those crazy Japanese! :-P | 09:37 |
| SuperMatt | oh, I see | 09:39 |
| SuperMatt | when you put it like that, it all makes sense | 09:40 |
| SuperMatt | to some extent | 09:40 |
| foobarry | i wonder how they decide prices for goods in oxfam. many are above RRP | 09:43 |
| SuperMatt | oh really? | 09:45 |
| foobarry | i wonde if they due a cursory ebay of an item and pick an arbirtrary price | 09:47 |
| foobarry | they have an online shop | 09:48 |
| foobarry | other non-chain charity shops price things low to shift stock, but oxfam seem to think they can demand near RRP for 2nd hand items | 09:51 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: well, if the rest goes to charity.. | 09:52 |
| foobarry | MartijnVdS: they don't shift the stock though if they are selling H&M /primark clothes at higher price than the brand new stuff | 09:53 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: and to compensate, they increase prices even more ;) | 09:53 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: also, their management probably needs a new gold toilet or something? | 09:54 |
| foobarry | i think the shop staff are volunteers, unsure if any are paid | 09:54 |
| MartijnVdS | (isn't that how most charities operate these days?) | 09:54 |
| MooDoo | I think the shop managers are paid, but everyone else aren't | 09:55 |
| foobarry | In the financial year 2012/13, Oxfam's chief executive was paid £119,560 | 09:55 |
| MartijnVdS | which is more than I'm paid as a coder | 09:55 |
| MartijnVdS | and it feels a bit wrong, as they're a *charity*. | 09:56 |
| SuperMatt | sure, but that a lot less than many ceos | 09:56 |
| SuperMatt | I imagine it's not a low stress job | 09:57 |
| foobarry | echoes my sentiment: http://www.weeklygripe.co.uk/a761.asp | 09:57 |
| SuperMatt | so that actually seems quite fair to me | 09:57 |
| SuperMatt | anything much higher than that though, and I would question it | 09:57 |
| foobarry | if they paid too low then they will struggle to get a decent CEO | 09:58 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: we've had a few of those in the news in .nl | 09:58 |
| SuperMatt | foobarry: indeed | 09:58 |
| SuperMatt | I imagine that the ceo has a good social conscience not to want much more, but also be aware of what the going rate is for ceos, and thus has struck a good balance | 09:59 |
| popey | they're charging those prices for goods in charity shops because supply+demand | 09:59 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:01 |
| foobarry | i can't see them shifting badly priced clothes | 10:02 |
| foobarry | they must get re-sent to diffrent branches where they are more reasonably priced | 10:02 |
| foobarry | hence why independent ones price them correctly in the first place, because its up to themselves to shift stock | 10:04 |
| foobarry | ah, they say there is no general policy on price, so experiences with different brancheds may vary | 10:06 |
| === roht is now known as dottx | ||
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:57 |
| MartijnVdS | \o davmor2 | 10:57 |
| davmor2 | Happy New Year! | 10:57 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 10:58 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo, MartijnVdS: nice break? | 10:59 |
| MartijnVdS | Nah, back at work already :) | 10:59 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: yeah it was thanks, but I'm with MartijnVdS back at work already | 11:01 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: but the christmas -> new year break was good :) | 11:02 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 11:03 |
| popey | \o/ I started making a silly game yesterday. Anyone fancy testing it? ☻ | 11:04 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: sure, which platform? | 11:04 |
| popey | windows / linux / osx | 11:04 |
| popey | http://popey.com/asteroids/downloads/ | 11:04 |
| popey | it's only just started, made the player movement and networking code | 11:04 |
| popey | want to see if it works outside my house ☻ | 11:05 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: ah it's not Ubuntu Phone-only ;) | 11:05 |
| popey | no ☻ | 11:05 |
| popey | doesn't work on ubuntu phone (yet) | 11:05 |
| ali1234 | is it unity? | 11:06 |
| MooDoo | popey: works on windows machine at work | 11:06 |
| ali1234 | is that a silly question? | 11:06 |
| popey | yes ali1234 | 11:06 |
| MartijnVdS | ./asteroids.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 11:06 |
| popey | ooh | 11:06 |
| MartijnVdS | but that might be me not having i386 libs | 11:06 |
| * popey uploads 64-bit version | 11:06 | |
| * brobostigon probably will be spending more time making things for his pebble now. he suspects. | 11:06 | |
| popey | MooDoo: can you join the server? or indeed see any server? | 11:07 |
| bigcalm | popey: works for me on 13.10 64bit | 11:07 |
| bigcalm | popey: not sure how I exit though | 11:07 |
| popey | yeah, i need a quit button ☻ | 11:07 |
| MooDoo | popey: can see jupieroids, but can't join it button does't do anything | 11:07 |
| bigcalm | popey: also, flew off the screen and can't find the craft again | 11:07 |
| MooDoo | popey: then again it could be work network, i'll try it at hom | 11:08 |
| popey | ah, you on a proxy? | 11:08 |
| popey | bigcalm: yeah, known bug ☻ | 11:08 |
| MooDoo | yeah. | 11:08 |
| popey | ah, okay | 11:08 |
| popey | will look at adding proxy support | 11:08 |
| popey | ta | 11:08 |
| ali1234 | i can't see any servers. no proxy | 11:08 |
| ali1234 | i started a server and then flew off the screen | 11:08 |
| popey | heh ☻ | 11:08 |
| popey | how does the craft physics feel? | 11:09 |
| bigcalm | Same here | 11:09 |
| popey | (other than going off screen) | 11:09 |
| popey | sluggish / fast ? | 11:09 |
| bigcalm | Aha, refreshed the list and now I see Jupiteroids | 11:09 |
| ali1234 | impossible to tell, i flew off the screen within 0.5 seconds | 11:09 |
| popey | I'll put a boundary around it for now | 11:09 |
| ali1234 | the graphic is a bit blurry | 11:09 |
| popey | bigcalm: can you join? | 11:09 |
| bigcalm | popey: Clicking on Jupiteroids does nothing when I click on it | 11:09 |
| popey | yeah, its a scaled up rip off from ZX Spectrum Thrust ☻ | 11:09 |
| popey | bigcalm: excellent | 11:09 |
| dwatkins | Thrust was an excellent fame. | 11:09 |
| ali1234 | either make the edges wrap or just reflect the craft velocity vector if it goes beyond the edge and is also travelling away from the center of the screen | 11:10 |
| popey | just the kind of result I was hoping for | 11:10 |
| dwatkins | also, game | 11:10 |
| bigcalm | The physics are similar to what I would expect from such a game | 11:10 |
| popey | ali1234: yeah, agreed | 11:10 |
| popey | seems nobody managed to successfully join the server | 11:10 |
| popey | wonder if that's because I'm behind NAT | 11:10 |
| popey | (where the server is) | 11:10 |
| dwatkins | what port does it use? | 11:10 |
| popey | 25000 | 11:11 |
| popey | MartijnVdS: 64-bit builds uploaded ã‹› | 11:12 |
| popey | (although I expect you may have the same issues everyone else has) ☻ | 11:12 |
| ali1234 | 32 bit works on 64 bit | 11:13 |
| popey | yeah, if you have the 32-bit GL stuff installed I guess | 11:13 |
| popey | (which you will if you have steam on linux installed I imagine) | 11:13 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 11:13 |
| popey | want to test this on android too | 11:13 |
| popey | need to install the android sdk | 11:13 |
| ali1234 | write some more of the game first, you'll get more testers :) | 11:13 |
| popey | yeah ☻ | 11:13 |
| popey | thanks chaps | 11:14 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: physics feel good :) | 11:14 |
| bigcalm | Ooo, the 64bit version gives me a screen res options | 11:14 |
| ali1234 | i never got that | 11:14 |
| MartijnVdS | also "windows mode" or not | 11:14 |
| MartijnVdS | windowed | 11:14 |
| popey | but without the networking stuff working it's going to never work, so I wanted to test that outside my home network first | 11:14 |
| popey | heh, #blameunity | 11:14 |
| ali1234 | make a dedicated server? | 11:15 |
| ali1234 | or set up port forwarding | 11:15 |
| popey | yeah, I'll make a headless build which spawns a server | 11:15 |
| bigcalm | Yep, the 64bit version works like the 32bit version for me. But with the addition of an options screen | 11:15 |
| popey | odd that one build has the resolution option but the other doesn't | 11:16 |
| MooDoo | get it flying over the uuk minecraft map ;) | 11:16 |
| popey | hah | 11:16 |
| popey | also need a better ship graphic | 11:16 |
| popey | "also" as in "as well as actually writing the rest of the game" ☻ | 11:16 |
| ali1234 | did you ever do christmas tetris? | 11:17 |
| popey | no.. what's that? | 11:17 |
| bigcalm | Amusing that trying the 32bit version again now uses the settings I applied in the 64bit version. But still no option screen | 11:17 |
| ali1234 | you were going to write a christmas themed game in scratch | 11:17 |
| popey | oh, yes, I started | 11:17 |
| popey | sorry, forgot scratch for a moment there ☻ | 11:17 |
| popey | need to look at that again before the next codeclub class, thanks for reminding me! | 11:18 |
| ali1234 | the hard part about writing games is finishing one before you start the next one | 11:18 |
| popey | true! | 11:18 |
| MooDoo | my problem is I get easily dis...ooo look a frog! ;) | 11:18 |
| diddledan | MooDoo: me too | 11:18 |
| ali1234 | and i just had an idea for a funny game | 11:18 |
| gordonjcp | ali1234: likewise music | 11:19 |
| bashrc | you could call it "coder focus" | 11:19 |
| gordonjcp | which is why I have a couple of backup drives of half-finished audio, and several boxes of floppies of half-finished sequences | 11:19 |
| gordonjcp | "oh this sounds good, doesn't fit this track, let me just create a new one and get it down quick" | 11:20 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you don't need a frog, a shiny will cover it | 11:20 |
| popey | there's "one game a month" which makes this worse ☻ | 11:20 |
| popey | http://www.onegameamonth.com/ | 11:20 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: me no likey shiney! | 11:20 |
| gordonjcp | I am going to limit myself to three *finished* tracks before the end of March, then up the pace a bit and get some of the rest done | 11:21 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: look at the shiny camera lens | 11:21 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: no can do at moment, got exams to concentrate on | 11:21 |
| foobarry | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1046165765/egg-the-intelligent-cat-companion?ref=discovery | 11:22 |
| ali1234 | so do the unity tools work on linux yet? | 11:23 |
| foobarry | every 3d pribter on kickstarter gets fully funded v quickly | 11:26 |
| popey | ali1234: no | 11:26 |
| popey | ali1234: i got them working briefly in WINE but it was sub-optimal | 11:26 |
| popey | bit crashy | 11:26 |
| popey | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Introducing-Unity-for-Arch-Arch-Linux-with-Unity-360250.shtml | 11:27 |
| popey | hehe | 11:27 |
| foobarry | never seen arch in the wild | 11:30 |
| popey | I get told about it a lot from other linux users | 11:31 |
| foobarry | it remains the mythical distro of the blog commenter | 11:31 |
| popey | hah | 11:31 |
| davmor2 | I hate holidays the inbox after one is catastrophic | 11:36 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: thats why i'm always logging into work email during hols :) | 11:36 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I try not to touch a computer while I'm off or I get sucked in and I'm back to working again :D | 11:37 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: I should know better | 11:38 |
| bashrc | I never log into work anything during hols | 11:38 |
| dwatkins | davmor2: are you ircing from a phone? | 11:38 |
| davmor2 | dwatkins: no back at work today | 11:39 |
| dwatkins | ahh, same here | 11:39 |
| bashrc | happy back at work day! | 11:39 |
| MooDoo | i should have booked these two days off lol | 11:39 |
| dwatkins | no rest for the wicked, nor support staff like me ;) | 11:39 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: no it's time for your email client to recover ready to start work on Monday ;) | 11:40 |
| MooDoo | dwatkins: same here...pah to support lol | 11:42 |
| dwatkins | thankfully it's quiet | 11:42 |
| MooDoo | here too | 11:42 |
| MooDoo | dwatkins: give me time to study :) | 11:42 |
| SuperMatt | work leaving drinks booked \o/ | 11:43 |
| dwatkins | MooDoo: yeah, plenty of things to learn for me too | 11:43 |
| MooDoo | dwatkins: windows for me though lol | 11:43 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: did you see the lightbox for camera phones on one of the crowdfunding sites? | 11:55 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: I think you mentioned it, but not 100% | 11:56 |
| dwatkins | this? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/limemouse/scanbox-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-portable-scann | 12:06 |
| MooDoo | nice | 12:06 |
| davmor2 | dwatkins: no just trying to find it | 12:15 |
| andylockran | Happy New Year! | 12:27 |
| popey | indeed | 12:27 |
| andylockran | just getting back into the swing | 12:27 |
| dwatkins | http://img.outdoortoysworld.co.uk/images/products/Hedstrom%20Single%20Swing_A_SS-1.jpg andylockran ;) | 12:40 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| selinuxium | Hi All and a Happy New Year... :) | 13:19 |
| MartijnVdS | selinuxium: and the same to you! | 13:21 |
| diddledan | "up with the british aristocracy" | 13:38 |
| diddledan | "and up yours" | 13:38 |
| diddledan | :-p | 13:38 |
| diddledan | something like that anywho | 13:38 |
| diddledan | I forget the actual quote | 13:39 |
| diddledan | so. it's 2014. doesn't feel any different. | 13:41 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: it has a 4 instead of a 3 so it's very different :P | 13:42 |
| diddledan | I can't feel it yet | 13:42 |
| diddledan | maybe it takes a while to soak-in>? | 13:42 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: no you just need to write it a few times :) | 13:43 |
| foobarry | heh after all that oxfam chat this morning i was looking for a certain book and found that oxfam were selling it at a decent price via amazon marketplace | 13:45 |
| Mez | Does anyone in here have experience setting up ubuntu with >2 monitors (across multiple gfx cards) | 13:57 |
| SuperMatt | I've never managed to get it to work :/ | 13:57 |
| bashrc | sadly I don't. I'm an old-fashioned one monitor bloke | 13:57 |
| SuperMatt | I've got two monitors on one nvidia card | 13:58 |
| Mez | My old box ran 4 monitors fine (raring + NVS Quatro). Can't even get the machine to detect the monitors with that card on my new machine. | 14:01 |
| Mez | Can get GFX up to 3 monitors, though the third has major tearing issues) | 14:01 |
| Mez | so, trying to work out my simplest way to get 4 running | 14:02 |
| popey | Mez: bigcalm does | 14:04 |
| popey | Mez: also, Azelphur | 14:05 |
| diddledan | I run multiple monitors on an AMD 6870 card, but that's using the binary drivers and AMD's eyefinity thing | 14:06 |
| bigcalm | I run 3 22" monitors off one nvidia graphics card (2 x dvi and 1 x hdmi). My 4th monitor is connected to a windows server | 14:25 |
| bigcalm | I used to run more monitors, but that was over 2 graphics cards. So I've never had more than 3 monitors connected to one graphics card | 14:25 |
| SuperMatt | I really don't need more than two monitors | 14:27 |
| SuperMatt | at least, not for the kind of things I do | 14:27 |
| SuperMatt | I can understand some people needing more though | 14:27 |
| MartijnVdS | you might have to use a xorg.conf in those cases | 14:35 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 14:35 |
| directhex | so | 15:06 |
| directhex | Mez, you can't get more than 3 monitors hooked up to any current consumer-grade graphics card, unless the monitors are displayport-based and you use a displayport out on the graphics card | 15:08 |
| MartijnVdS | chaining \o/ | 15:09 |
| directhex | the gpu needs to synchronize the rate at which it sends data to the monitor, and most cards only have 3 independent clocks for synchronizing against. | 15:09 |
| directhex | displayport doesn't require synchronization as the timing information is bundled with the display data | 15:09 |
| directhex | so you aren't limited by pixel clocks | 15:10 |
| DJones | Heh, and on the multiple monitors topic, there's somebody in #u talking about having 6 monitors connected to 2 graphics cards... That must be a hell of a lot of screen space | 15:12 |
| SuperMatt | I'm just not sure why anyone really needs that many | 15:12 |
| directhex | porn. | 15:13 |
| directhex | all the porn. | 15:13 |
| SuperMatt | literally | 15:13 |
| diddledan | I want a massive "screen" | 15:13 |
| SuperMatt | though watching 6 movies simultaniously doesn't seem neccessary | 15:13 |
| MooDoo | driving sim with 3 monitors is awesome, then 2 smaller ones as wing mirrors, i've seen it, it's ace | 15:14 |
| DJones | 1) IRC, 2) Facebook, 3) Email, 4) Cat pictures, 5) G+, 6) Web browsing, 7) Work... Oh bugger, can't do any work, only got 6 screens :) | 15:14 |
| MooDoo | lol | 15:15 |
| diddledan | I need at least 2 screens for work | 15:15 |
| * SuperMatt too | 15:15 | |
| SuperMatt | I tend to have about 4 or 5 terminal windows open at any time | 15:15 |
| diddledan | one with the code and one with the test site | 15:15 |
| SuperMatt | on one screen, and on the other, browser and email | 15:15 |
| diddledan | yeah I'd like three so I have another for terminals | 15:15 |
| SuperMatt | at my new job I believe I'll only have two | 15:16 |
| diddledan | and for web coding I tend to have the inspector open so I would really like that on yet another | 15:16 |
| foobarry | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amphoras.hidemyroot&hl=en looked promising for 4od but doesnt appear to do the trick for CM | 15:18 |
| diddledan | foobarry: "On some roms (usually rooted stock roms), Hide my Root will allow you to use Google Videos and similar apps on a rooted phone. On custom roms such as CyanogenMod, it will not allow you to use Google Videos and similar apps on a rooted phone." | 15:19 |
| diddledan | note the second sentence | 15:20 |
| foobarry | yeah, sucks. | 15:20 |
| SuperMatt | hmm yeah, 3 screens for webdev does sound pretty optimal | 15:20 |
| foobarry | must be doable | 15:20 |
| diddledan | SuperMatt: then there's needing IRC open on another screen :-p | 15:21 |
| SuperMatt | IRC just gets lost in all my other terminal windows | 15:22 |
| diddledan | I use a GUI to IRC | 15:23 |
| SuperMatt | irssi ftw | 15:23 |
| diddledan | I like the at-a-glance ability of gui - colour-coded joined channel list indicating new messages and new highlighted messages for e.g. | 15:24 |
| MooDoo | i use irssi too on my vps | 15:24 |
| SuperMatt | I'm gonna have to migrate my session in a couple of weeks | 15:24 |
| diddledan | I expect irssi can do it with some fancy screen/byobu integration though | 15:24 |
| SuperMatt | when I get my hands on cheaper vpses through work :P | 15:24 |
| MooDoo | :p | 15:25 |
| diddledan | cheap vpsen? shut up and take my money! | 15:25 |
| diddledan | :-p | 15:25 |
| SuperMatt | diddledan: I'll be working for rackspace, so it'll be an employee only benefit | 15:25 |
| diddledan | fooey | 15:26 |
| diddledan | you'll be able to play with some fancy stuffs though | 15:26 |
| SuperMatt | I know! | 15:26 |
| SuperMatt | that's why I'm so excited about going | 15:26 |
| diddledan | :-D | 15:26 |
| SuperMatt | I'm not excited about transferring all the stuff on my current server over though | 15:27 |
| SuperMatt | no doubt I'll foget a package or two and my email won't work at all | 15:28 |
| daftykins | SuperMatt: all part of the fun! :D | 15:28 |
| SuperMatt | sure thing :) | 15:28 |
| SuperMatt | I'll just migrate it all and use local host modifications to test | 15:28 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: time to use chef ;) | 15:48 |
| SuperMatt | nah, it's not like I change my server often | 15:48 |
| SuperMatt | I was just gonna do dpkg --getselections, or whatevers | 15:48 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: still.. having a recipe = useful :) | 15:49 |
| SuperMatt | I just ran get-selections and it sure as hell missed out a lot of my packages | 15:50 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: there's a better way that takes care of apt as well | 15:50 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-and-dependencies-from-dpkg-set-selections | 15:52 |
| SuperMatt | aha, putting in the '*' made the difference | 15:53 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: you want apt-mark | 15:59 |
| SuperMatt | I know I'll figure it out in a couple of weeks | 16:00 |
| SuperMatt | I might actually manually look through the list of packages and remove the ones I know I won't need | 16:04 |
| SuperMatt | because I've installed some crud in my time | 16:04 |
| bashrc | havn't we all | 16:06 |
| diddledan | autoremove ftw | 16:14 |
| diddledan | :-p | 16:14 |
| SuperMatt | aha, good news that nginx will be coming to main in 14.04 | 16:35 |
| bigcalm | Replacing Apache2? | 16:35 |
| SuperMatt | no no | 16:35 |
| SuperMatt | just being along side | 16:36 |
| SuperMatt | which means it get support for the entire lifetime of the lts | 16:36 |
| bigcalm | Ah, good | 16:36 |
| SuperMatt | I thought it was about time nginx got as much love as apache | 16:39 |
| popey | yeah, good news | 16:41 |
| SuperMatt | I've been using nginx quite a lot recently for load balancing and ssl termination | 16:42 |
| gordonjcp | nginx ftw | 16:42 |
| SuperMatt | but I still wouldn't use it for php heavy sites | 16:42 |
| popey | \o/ it's unity-coding-o'clock | 19:22 |
| DJones | Somebody please give me an injection of sanity, watching a tv programme which had a heatseeking image of suspects & captors with a cross hair on them & I was moving my mouse expecting the crosshair to move....Doh!!!!! | 19:22 |
| davmor2 | popey: you have to add the 3d bit other wise it sound like you are at work still :D | 19:24 |
| popey | heheh | 19:31 |
| popey | they dont call it unity3d anymore | 19:31 |
| popey | it's just called Unity, because they have a 3d and 2d engine | 19:31 |
| davmor2 | popey: that's not gonna be confusing at all :D | 19:33 |
| ali1234 | how does git automatically put output into a pager, and why don't more applications do this? | 19:34 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: magic | 19:34 |
| ali1234 | i am totally convinced this is the reason git is the most popular DVCS | 19:34 |
| ali1234 | every time i type "bzr log" and forget to append " | less" it makes me curse bzr developers | 19:35 |
| Laney | yeah, that broke me | 19:35 |
| Laney | so i found the bzr-pager plugin | 19:35 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| czajkowski | Laney: 4 weeks to FOSDEM! | 22:02 |
| Laney | ^_^ | 22:03 |
| Laney | i'm scared | 22:03 |
| Laney | you'll have to show me the ropes | 22:03 |
| czajkowski | find a bar - sorted | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | at the event download the app before you go there | 22:04 |
| Laney | surely you have to find THE bar | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | and sub to the talks you want to go | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | sorted :) | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | Laney: narp it's delerium | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | done | 22:04 |
| Laney | o ok | 22:04 |
| Laney | we're at a hotel in the city centre | 22:05 |
| Laney | hope it's not too hard to get there | 22:05 |
| directhex | can't afford fosdem | 22:05 |
| directhex | blew hundreds on mono hackfest in vienna | 22:06 |
| Laney | huh | 22:06 |
| Laney | i assumed sponsorship happened | 22:06 |
| czajkowski | Laney: which hotel | 22:07 |
| Laney | cannae remember | 22:08 |
| Laney | it's near some famous square | 22:08 |
| * Laney is so cultured | 22:08 | |
| czajkowski | Laney: have you been on the sauce again | 22:08 |
| directhex | Laney, my employer sponsored the event, but didn't fund me directly. different pots of money. gnome foundation seems to have decided not to even bother acknowledging my reimbursement paperwork | 22:08 |
| Laney | huh | 22:09 |
| Laney | you should prod people directly | 22:09 |
| Laney | czajkowski: anyway, we have didrocks and desrt who are seasoned fosdemmers staying in the same place | 22:10 |
| Laney | so i'm sure i'll be well chaperoned :P | 22:10 |
| czajkowski | Laney: \o/ | 22:11 |
| czajkowski | I shall be in the NoSQL room mostly | 22:11 |
| Laney | you trendy thing | 22:11 |
| czajkowski | Laney: hey you're the hipster! | 22:14 |
| Laney | ¬_¬ | 22:14 |
| Laney | london scares me and you can't be a hipster if you don't like london | 22:15 |
| Laney | QED | 22:15 |
| czajkowski | lol | 22:17 |
| daftykins | XD | 22:19 |
| daftykins | cities scare me | 22:19 |
| Laney | I'd have to learn to drive to not live in one :( | 22:20 |
| arc__ | Hello | 23:00 |
| === AlanBell_ is now known as AlanBell | ||
| daftykins | hi | 23:00 |
| arc__ | I have booted lubuntu 13.04/.10 up and my screen is flashing | 23:00 |
| arc__ | Booted from usb | 23:01 |
| arc__ | Any help ;) | 23:02 |
| daftykins | flashing 0o | 23:03 |
| daftykins | as in it's showing the desktop fine - but it blinks? | 23:03 |
| arc__ | No desktop just cusor | 23:04 |
| popey | http://popey.com/asteroids/downloads/ \o/ 8 people connected to my server now | 23:04 |
| popey | fixed things bigcalm and ali1234 mentioned earlier | 23:04 |
| popey | still need to add bullets and some other gamey features | 23:04 |
| daftykins | hrmm not sure if nomodeset is appropriate | 23:04 |
| arc__ | 12.04 works like a charm | 23:04 |
| arc__ | I booted it normaly from my usb [live cd/usb boot ] | 23:06 |
| arc__ | but started to flicker when the cursor came on no backgroud or desktop just a cursor | 23:07 |
| arc__ | Any ideas | 23:09 |
| arc__ | I had the same problem when doing the same thing with ubuntu 13.04/.10 | 23:11 |
| daftykins | you can look into the kernel boot parameter "nomodeset" but i don't know if it's applicable in your situation | 23:12 |
| arc__ | Lol thanks for the help i tried googling it but no luck [i am a crap google searcher] | 23:14 |
| daftykins | hrmm i wonder if... | 23:14 |
| daftykins | !nomodeset | 23:14 |
| lubotu3 | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 23:14 |
| daftykins | huzzah ^ | 23:14 |
| arc__ | Kk thank u will try that tommorow | 23:15 |
| daftykins | no problem | 23:15 |
| daftykins | i'd ask more but i'm headed to bed now | 23:15 |
| arc__ | Yea me too lol | 23:15 |
| gordonjcp | can anyone talk me through pairing a GPS in 13.10? I'm obviously missing something fundamental in the Bluetooth control panel, because it always gives me a random PIN | 23:28 |
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