| rick_h_ | greg-g: you suck, much better woodworking weather | 00:33 |
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| greg-g | :) | 00:38 |
| rick_h_ | I've got the garage up to 58, poor DTE is going to send me an another angry letter on how I use so much more electricity than my neighbors | 00:39 |
| gamerchick02 | DTE does that? | 00:41 |
| rick_h_ | gamerchick02: we recently got internet enabled meters and they send out emails comparing your use to others in your neighborhood and rate you and such | 00:42 |
| rick_h_ | let's just say I'm above average | 00:42 |
| cmaloney | I haven't received one of those. | 00:42 |
| greg-g | PGE out here does that | 00:42 |
| gamerchick02 | ugh that's horrible | 00:45 |
| gamerchick02 | do i get a discount because i don't use as much power? | 00:45 |
| gamerchick02 | the answer is "no" | 00:45 |
| rick_h_ | heh, but people pay for the same stuff with a nest and their 'how many leaves you saved' :) | 00:45 |
| rick_h_ | it gamifies it | 00:46 |
| rick_h_ | and I do need to get some insuation stuff taken care of one of these days. I know I have some leaky stuff. | 00:46 |
| rick_h_ | but I work from home, heat my garage, so I'm not quiet your average home owner anyway, so meh | 00:46 |
| gamerchick02 | ah | 00:46 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm an apartment dweller and i'm worried about the privacy and the overreaching government influence on that sort of stuff | 00:47 |
| rick_h_ | meh, they can come look if I"m running grow lamps in the house | 00:47 |
| rick_h_ | If they want to bust my wife for her aero garden oh well | 00:47 |
| rick_h_ | I'll get the whole bed to myself for a bit :) | 00:47 |
| gamerchick02 | "you're using too much power so we're going to *encourage* you to use less by shutting it off for a few hours in the dead heat of summer. on a weekend. when it's 105F" | 00:47 |
| gamerchick02 | hah | 00:48 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, those Aero gardens are real triggers for the DEA. | 00:48 |
| rick_h_ | meh, I believe in my right to write bigger checks | 00:48 |
| gamerchick02 | what is an Aero garden? | 00:48 |
| gamerchick02 | that's very true. | 00:48 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-AeroGarden-Indoor-Garden-Gourmet/dp/B000FI4O90/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388623705&sr=8-1&keywords=aero+garden | 00:48 |
| gamerchick02 | (note we have a traditional garden at my mom's house) | 00:48 |
| rick_h_ | it's the only way my wife can grow plants | 00:48 |
| gamerchick02 | OH! i could do that in my apartment! | 00:48 |
| rick_h_ | gamerchick02: yea, my wife loves it. Gets to toss some minced herbs into dishes on the fly | 00:49 |
| gamerchick02 | eee that's an expensive startup cost | 00:49 |
| gamerchick02 | that sounds cool though | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | yea, why it took a while to get it | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | I tried to get her to grow them outside and made her a spot and everything | 00:49 |
| cmaloney | It's not cheap. It's kind of like K-cups for Herbs. | 00:49 |
| gamerchick02 | hah. | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | after I had to weed it out 20x I figured I'd just spend the $$ | 00:50 |
| gamerchick02 | that's really neat. i might look into it more | 00:50 |
| gamerchick02 | i HATE weeding | 00:50 |
| gamerchick02 | blech | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | yea, she likes her herbs, but doesn't really get the whole 'yard work' thing | 00:50 |
| gamerchick02 | redwood trees? the company is being silly | 00:51 |
| gamerchick02 | i HATE yard work. | 00:51 |
| gamerchick02 | i go home and help my mom and brother out but i don't want my own to do. | 00:51 |
| gamerchick02 | people are work are like "why don't you buy a house?" and i'm like "no. it involves yard work. heck no, i'm gone too much." | 00:52 |
| gamerchick02 | and i am. | 00:52 |
| gamerchick02 | i was gone for a week and a half for the holidays, and i go home at least two weekends a month for family and Nile stuff. | 00:52 |
| cmaloney | Honestly the only thing I really detest is shoveling snow | 00:57 |
| cmaloney | and it's not that it's particularly difficult or challenging | 00:57 |
| cmaloney | but rather that it's just one more God Damn thing that needs to be done regardless of how I feel about it. :) | 00:58 |
| gamerchick02 | hah | 00:58 |
| gamerchick02 | yes | 00:58 |
| gamerchick02 | i don't mind that (i help my brother) but the yard. oh man the yard. also there's just me, so unless i snag a husband real quick to help with the yard/house/driveway duties, then i won't have time for anything else. | 00:59 |
| cmaloney | I would submit that getting married just to avoid yardwork is not the best plan | 00:59 |
| cmaloney | that's what adopting full-grown orphans is for. | 01:00 |
| gamerchick02 | no, i'd marry for love but i'd be looking for more things... good health insurance and the love of yardwork are nice additions. | 01:00 |
| gamerchick02 | :-P | 01:00 |
| cmaloney | "Must have lawn tractor. Please provide photo of tractor" | 01:01 |
| gamerchick02 | HAH | 01:01 |
| gamerchick02 | i don' | 01:01 |
| gamerchick02 | ack | 01:01 |
| gamerchick02 | i don't have a house right now so there's no need for a lawn tractor. yet. | 01:01 |
| gamerchick02 | we'll see what this year brings. i've applied to the open direct position in my department but i've not heard anything from Chrysler (now apparently Fiat) since I applied. | 01:02 |
| gamerchick02 | the "we've gotten your application, thanks for your time" email yeah | 01:02 |
| cmaloney | Don't worry about Fiat. I'm sure they'll be hurting for folks in a bit | 01:02 |
| cmaloney | I foresee a mass exodus | 01:03 |
| gamerchick02 | hah. i don't. i hope not. the company seems to be doing relatively well | 01:04 |
| gamerchick02 | ok switching to laptop for the Vienna concert | 01:05 |
| gamerchick02 | see everyone later! | 01:05 |
| cmaloney | Have fun! | 01:05 |
| cmaloney | wb DrDaemonEye | 02:11 |
| DrDaemonEye | thanks cmaloney :) | 02:11 |
| cmaloney | JoDee put together "Big Ben" Legos. | 02:28 |
| cmaloney | I think this is going to be the year of Lego. I got her something that I think she'll really like for her birthday. | 02:29 |
| cmaloney | Not going to post it here just in case she checks logs. :) | 02:29 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 02:33 |
| rick_h_ | shhhhh | 02:33 |
| cmaloney | Let's just say it's one of those kits that I think she'll really really like | 03:31 |
| jrwren_ | more snow! | 13:10 |
| jrwren_ | good morning | 13:10 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 13:12 |
| brousch | Ug with the snow and frickin cold | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | yea, the cold is a bit much. It can show in the low 30s or upper 20s. My temp gauge says 6 outside right now. | 13:14 |
| brousch | How's Portland today? | 13:16 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: 37°F | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | FEELS LIKE 37° | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | high today of 49, showers tonight | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | *sigh* | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: hey, how was the trip? | 13:23 |
| jcastro | awesome dude | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | you've got to be on cloud 9 today :) | 13:24 |
| jcastro | hey | 13:24 |
| jcastro | we do start work today right? | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: rgr | 13:24 |
| jcastro | hah, was hoping for 2 more days | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: heh, you and me both, but MLK day is coming | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | so yay for 3 day weekends :) | 13:24 |
| jcastro | when is that? | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | 20th-ish? | 13:25 |
| cmaloney | Morning | 14:18 |
| cmaloney | jcastro: wb. :) | 14:18 |
| jcastro | wb to you too! | 14:23 |
| cmaloney | I've been here all along. :) | 14:26 |
| rick_h_ | remdiner CHC tonight | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | Planning onit. | 14:27 |
| waf | i'll be there! | 14:49 |
| brousch | I just realized I never moved my podcasts to a new Android listener after Google Listen died. What are you guys using? | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | pocketcasts | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | sync ftw! | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | UI takes a little getting used to, but love that I can do audible-like whisper sync across tablet, phone, etc | 15:01 |
| brousch | Sync would be useful | 15:02 |
| brousch | I use my N7 90% of the time at home | 15:02 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but I like to use my tablet in the house, but then when I go into the car, I can pick up where I left off on the phone over BT | 15:03 |
| rick_h_ | these days I don't use it a ton, but really cool if you do a bunch of podcasts | 15:03 |
| brousch | Yeah, that's what I mean by sync would be useful | 15:04 |
| brousch | wow $4 | 15:05 |
| brousch | Why is it a $4 app feels like a $400 piece of PC software? | 15:05 |
| brousch | I mean I hesitate to pay $4 for an app on the same level as a $400 piece of desktop software | 15:07 |
| cmaloney | I'd love to know how you spent $400 on a podcatching application. | 15:13 |
| cmaloney | and if you would send the difference to a certain CC-metal podcast. :) | 15:13 |
| waf | i use beyondpod on my tablet/phone | 15:14 |
| cmaloney | I've used both, but prefer pocketcasts | 15:15 |
| waf | it will synchronize read/unread items, but not the location within a podcast. | 15:15 |
| cmaloney | but I only use one device for my podcasts | 15:15 |
| brousch | cmaloney: I mean when I see an app for $4, in my mind it is like seeing desktop software for $400. I feel like the price is outrageous and I will not pay it | 15:15 |
| cmaloney | I usually use the Squeezebox, but the 5by5.tv stuff drops off after ~30minutes. | 15:16 |
| brousch | My immediate reaction | 15:16 |
| cmaloney | brousch: I have some helpful advice | 15:16 |
| cmaloney | brousch: GET OVER IT. | 15:16 |
| cmaloney | brousch: That'll be $396. | 15:16 |
| brousch | I do, but my immediate reaction is the same | 15:16 |
| cmaloney | Seriously? | 15:17 |
| brousch | Yes, I do get over it | 15:17 |
| cmaloney | I've paid more for shitty Palm OS software than $4 | 15:17 |
| rick_h_ | waf: yea, upgrade to pocketcasts. the position in a podcast is cool | 15:17 |
| rick_h_ | especially if you've ever got a drive or such | 15:17 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: I have a smaller but similiar reaction | 15:17 |
| rick_h_ | but then I stop and think about it and my $5 starbucks coffee and just get over it | 15:18 |
| rick_h_ | but I've got a defective gene that lets me find excuses to say 'yes' to things | 15:18 |
| cmaloney | I finnd $10 is expensive for Android software | 15:19 |
| waf | hm, pocketcasts looks nice from a UI perspective | 15:19 |
| waf | that might be enough for me to switch. | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: it's all in how much I use it | 15:19 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Yeah, that's a factor | 15:19 |
| brousch | oooh, variable speed playback | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: I mean, I'd happily pay $10 or greater for things on my main screen | 15:20 |
| cmaloney | I'm now to the point where $14.99 for a PC game is near my upper level | 15:20 |
| brousch | Now all of my CC music podcasts can sound like openmetalcast | 15:20 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: especially because 90% of the time it's a one time cost | 15:20 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Yep | 15:20 |
| rick_h_ | if I had to pay for every upgrade I might feel different | 15:20 |
| jrwren_ | ouch | 17:04 |
| jrwren_ | https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-01/msg00005.html | 17:04 |
| greg-g | sad | 17:05 |
| greg-g | I love/d bzr | 17:05 |
| greg-g | such a better ui | 17:05 |
| jrwren_ | it was until it wasn't, and then it really wasn't. | 17:06 |
| jrwren_ | detacthed heads were a BITCH | 17:06 |
| jrwren_ | corruption was a bitch. | 17:06 |
| rick_h_ | ugh, except the only way to use it effectively is to start looking at how to use lightweight checkouts, shared this/that, relocated working trees, etc | 17:06 |
| rick_h_ | and don't get me started on the colo plugin vs real built in colo | 17:07 |
| greg-g | ahh | 17:08 |
| greg-g | well, I guess I never got deep into it | 17:08 |
| greg-g | I just used it for my dotfiles dir | 17:08 |
| greg-g | well, use | 17:08 |
| greg-g | might have to switch ;) | 17:08 |
| jrwren_ | then again, it is easy to forget just how bad git's UI was back then too. git has come a long way | 17:08 |
| rick_h_ | +1 | 17:09 |
| greg-g | git sucked... I can't say if it's better or if I finally just started using it and learning it | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | and while git has a learning curve, so does vim, cli, etc. | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | all the best tools do, until you hit the 'aha' moment | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | and then they still kick you in the nuts once in a while | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | bzr did too much copying svn to make it easy to move at first imo | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | but that emacs thread is true. On more than the bzr levels | 17:10 |
| greg-g | yeah, just read it | 17:17 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: I have no idea how to do podcasts in LMS | 17:23 |
| greg-g | ie: how to add them, then listen to them from the touch | 17:23 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: 1) a forum post suggested adding a feed as a Favorite. Tried, won't let me actually play the episodes. | 17:43 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: 2) I have to add podcast urls via the mysqueezebox.com service? | 17:43 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: 3) the mysqueezebox server doesn't understand urls like http://www.bulletproofexec.com/category/podcasts/feed/ (it won't save it, but it'll save urls that have an explicit filename.extension) | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, I hated using that thing | 17:44 |
| greg-g | jcastro: ! | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | why I went with tablet/etc for that | 17:44 |
| greg-g | jcastro: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/tags/hairday2013 | 17:45 |
| jcastro | WHAT. | 17:46 |
| greg-g | :) | 17:46 |
| jcastro | now we gotta get that face taken care of | 17:47 |
| greg-g | never | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | wow, amazon go boom | 17:49 |
| greg-g | ? | 17:49 |
| rick_h_ | trying to place and order it and went dead | 17:49 |
| rick_h_ | We're sorry. We're temporarily unable to display all your orders below. Rest assured, we're working on the problem and expect to resolve it shortly. If you don't see the order you're looking for, please wait a few minutes, then visit this page again. | 17:50 |
| jcastro | did you guys read the xmas amazon stuff? | 17:50 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: no | 17:50 |
| jcastro | apparently UPS _ran out of capacity_ | 17:50 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: well I saw the shipping woes | 17:50 |
| jcastro | so they missed a bunch of xmas deadlines for delivery | 17:50 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 17:50 |
| jcastro | it's like, how does UPS run out of capacity | 17:51 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 17:51 |
| rick_h_ | we're too spoiled as a society to be placing amz orders 2 days before christmas and execting htem to show | 17:52 |
| rick_h_ | I had non-holiday stuff delivered on christmas eve and felt bad | 17:52 |
| rick_h_ | nothing that could not have waited until post-holiday | 17:52 |
| greg-g | too much consumerism | 17:56 |
| greg-g | ;) | 17:56 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, I xmas shop on black friday | 17:57 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Here's how I do podcasts: | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | 1) Create a podcasts.opml file in my /mnt/music directory | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | 2) add podcasts to that .opml file | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | 3) Import that OPML file using the import button (iirc) | 18:09 |
| greg-g | ... | 18:09 |
| greg-g | import button where? | 18:09 |
| cmaloney | under favorites | 18:09 |
| cmaloney | Ah. skip 3 | 18:10 |
| DrDaemonEye | rick_h_: I had ordered something overnight a couple weeks before xmas and I got an email from them a few hours later saying they were unable to do overnight and refunded the costs | 18:10 |
| cmaloney | Here's what I did | 18:10 |
| cmaloney | "New Favorite" | 18:10 |
| cmaloney | "Name": "Podcasts | 18:10 |
| cmaloney | URL: file:///mnt/music/podcasts.opml | 18:10 |
| greg-g | adding the rss as a Favorite doesn't work | 18:10 |
| greg-g | oh | 18:10 |
| greg-g | I'll try it, but I don't believe it ;) | 18:10 |
| cmaloney | Trust me | 18:10 |
| greg-g | I added an rss as a favorite, and it shows the list of episodes, but won't play them | 18:11 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, you'll need to use the OPML file | 18:11 |
| greg-g | k | 18:11 |
| cmaloney | I think the podcasts plugin they use is essentially just reading the OPML file and displaying the results | 18:11 |
| cmaloney | It's pretty weak-sauce. | 18:11 |
| greg-g | same | 18:13 |
| greg-g | see list of episodes, won't play them | 18:13 |
| cmaloney | Are you using the podcasts plugin? | 18:14 |
| greg-g | from the LMS webview I get sent to this url when clicking an episode: http://192.168.0.102:9002/http://www.bulletproofexec.com/86-your-personal-paleo-code-with-chris-kresser-podcast/&player=00%3A04%3A20%3A23%3A32%3A0b | 18:14 |
| greg-g | that was via favorites | 18:14 |
| cmaloney | Turn the podcasts plugin off | 18:14 |
| cmaloney | and restart the server | 18:14 |
| greg-g | how does one restart LMS without restarting the machine? | 18:17 |
| greg-g | nvm | 18:18 |
| greg-g | nada | 18:19 |
| greg-g | fuck it, I'll use git-annex to manage the podcasts | 18:19 |
| cmaloney | :( | 18:20 |
| cmaloney | Though I can't blame you. I've not been terribly thrilled with the podcast support | 18:22 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Which version of LMS are you using? | 18:22 |
| greg-g | seems like an easy thihng | 18:22 |
| greg-g | Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33893 @ Wed Mar 14 06:37:22 MDT 2012 | 18:23 |
| cmaloney | I think that's part of the problem. | 18:23 |
| greg-g | it's what the NAS supplies | 18:23 |
| cmaloney | Which NAS? | 18:24 |
| greg-g | Synology | 18:24 |
| cmaloney | http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97224-Guide-How-to-install-Logitech-Media-Server-7-7-3-on-Buffalo-Linkstation-LS-CHL | 18:24 |
| cmaloney | Bah, one sec | 18:25 |
| greg-g | yeah, that "SSODS4" shit is no longer a part of Synology's filestructure | 18:26 |
| cmaloney | http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Logitech_Media_Server#Installing_to_a_NAS_Device ? | 18:27 |
| greg-g | not listed | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | blergh | 18:28 |
| greg-g | because LMS is included/packaged by Synology | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | right | 18:28 |
| greg-g | why would someone diy | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | Well, another option would be to use mysqueezebox to manage your podcasts | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | I've done that in the past | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | but essentially it's just a list of shows | 18:29 |
| greg-g | right, so mysqueezebox won't add http://www.bulletproofexec.com/category/podcasts/feed/ | 18:29 |
| greg-g | it gives me no feedback other than a big "fuck you for using unmaintained software" | 18:29 |
| greg-g | at least, that's what I think it is saying | 18:29 |
| cmaloney | No, it's giving you something different. | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | Hang on | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | There's no enclosures in this feed | 18:30 |
| greg-g | fucking itunes podcasts | 18:31 |
| cmaloney | yep | 18:31 |
| jrwren_ | what ever happened to that app with the lemon as the icon? | 18:34 |
| jrwren_ | ipodder? | 18:34 |
| jrwren_ | gpodder? | 18:34 |
| cmaloney | So that would explain why you were getting just a list of episodes but no content | 18:35 |
| cmaloney | juice? | 18:35 |
| jrwren_ | that is it. | 18:35 |
| jrwren_ | is it anygood? | 18:35 |
| cmaloney | gpodder was the one with the fuck-if-i-know icon | 18:35 |
| cmaloney | Haven't used it in a long time | 18:36 |
| cmaloney | I moved to Miro until they did their big interface redesign | 18:36 |
| cmaloney | After that I just use youtube for video podcasts and pocketcasts / squeezebox for audio podcasts. | 18:36 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h_: did you see this? http://blog.sheetjs.com/post/71326534924/running-your-js-code-in-python | 18:48 |
| cmaloney | I am amazed. | 18:50 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: cool, that might be useful if you could use pre-compiled JS temlates in a server side python application | 18:51 |
| rick_h_ | wonder how sucky performance is | 18:51 |
| brousch | Sounds similar to pyjnius, which lets you run Java code in Python | 18:51 |
| brousch | That's how we get access to the Android API in Kivy | 18:52 |
| jrwren_ | http://www.jorgecastro.org/2014/01/02/nginx-coming-to-main-in-14-dot-04/ great start, now you just need uwsgi, and ubuntu server will actually be worth using | 19:15 |
| rick_h_ | pip install uwsgi | 19:20 |
| jrwren_ | support. | 19:20 |
| jrwren_ | apt-get install nginx always worked too. | 19:20 |
| jrwren_ | the point is, 'support' | 19:20 |
| rick_h_ | yea, true | 19:20 |
| jrwren_ | its not something I care about at all | 19:20 |
| rick_h_ | but support for uwsgi? You think nginx is hard to get support for :/ | 19:20 |
| jrwren_ | but ones who care about it for nginx will care about it for uwsgi | 19:20 |
| jrwren_ | uwsgi is easy to get support for. just call unbit :) | 19:21 |
| brousch | What is this "support" you speak of? | 19:21 |
| jrwren_ | do you speak italian? BONUS! | 19:21 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: I think rick-an-ese | 19:21 |
| jrwren_ | surely someone speaks russian for hte nginx support :) | 19:21 |
| jcastro | jrwren_, no one's ever whined for uwsgi to me before | 19:22 |
| jcastro | squeaky wheel and all that | 19:23 |
| jrwren_ | wow. | 19:24 |
| jrwren_ | i'm surprised someone whined for nginx | 19:24 |
| jrwren_ | i mean, nginx has been there and worked well for YEARS | 19:24 |
| jrwren_ | wtf is wrong with universe? | 19:24 |
| jcastro | people have been whining for nginx for a long time | 19:24 |
| jcastro | security fixes, etc. | 19:24 |
| jrwren_ | PPA! | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: we can't use it internally if it's not in main for security | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: so lots of whining internally | 19:25 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h_: weaksauce! | 19:25 |
| jrwren_ | wow, internally, that sounds like a BITCH | 19:25 |
| jrwren_ | so no uwsgi internally? | 19:25 |
| jrwren_ | or... no uwsgi from universe, but a pip install into a venv, is fine? | 19:25 |
| jrwren_ | sounds like #politics | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | sounds like #ops | 19:26 |
| jcastro | jrwren_, you can't tell people like NTT and Deutsche Telekom "Use this PPA from this guy!" | 19:26 |
| rick_h_ | no, I don't think we run uwsgi | 19:26 |
| jcastro | though, it is actually the same guy and the package | 19:26 |
| jcastro | it's just the commitment to ensure it for 5 years | 19:26 |
| cmaloney | I'm pleased as punch for nginx support | 19:33 |
| jrwren_ | jcastro: yeah, i understand. | 19:42 |
| jrwren_ | i'm surprised NTT and DT are asking for nginx and not uwsgi. | 19:43 |
| jrwren_ | or lua | 19:43 |
| jcastro | I have stopped trying to guess what people want | 19:44 |
| jrwren_ | ha! | 19:44 |
| jrwren_ | i should too | 19:44 |
| jcastro | I'll check out uwsgi for you though | 19:44 |
| jrwren_ | i think psycologists call this projection. | 19:45 |
| jrwren_ | i project what I want, and I assume others want it too :) | 19:45 |
| jcastro | Is it popular among non-hosting companies too? | 19:45 |
| jcastro | this seems to be more stackish. | 19:45 |
| jcastro | where as a web server everyone needs | 19:45 |
| jrwren_ | IMO, it is popular anywhere mod_wsgi becomes a bottleneck. | 19:46 |
| jrwren_ | but that is python specific. | 19:46 |
| jrwren_ | i don't really know outside of that | 19:46 |
| jcastro | actually, other than nginx during conferences I always ask people what they want out of ubuntu server | 19:47 |
| jcastro | and I never get any good ideas | 19:47 |
| jcastro | people are generally happy with it | 19:47 |
| brousch | It is a beautiful thing | 19:47 |
| jcastro | it is frustrating though; something like 50 people at my OSCON talk and not a single complaint other than nginx | 19:47 |
| jcastro | it's like, what am I supposed to tell people to work on? lol | 19:48 |
| brousch | Work on public image, I guess? Make you work on upstream stuff more apparent | 19:49 |
| brousch | For the people who say Ubuntu doesn't contribute upstream | 19:49 |
| jrwren_ | jcastro: me too! | 19:50 |
| jrwren_ | i'm very happy with it | 19:50 |
| jrwren_ | but we don't use it restricted. | 19:50 |
| jrwren_ | we use universe packages | 19:50 |
| jrwren_ | we use PPA | 19:50 |
| brousch | Then publish statistics like "Ubuntu fixed 10,000 bugs and sent them upstream this year" | 19:51 |
| jrwren_ | logstash is baller, how about it by default. | 19:52 |
| jcastro | logstash is badass | 19:52 |
| jrwren_ | but its JVM and JVM sucks, so rewrite logstash without JVM :) | 19:52 |
| jcastro | we have a full charm for that badboy now | 19:52 |
| jcastro | brousch, ~7 thousandish is closer | 19:53 |
| jcastro | http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_usertag.cgi | 19:53 |
| brousch | Nice | 19:59 |
| cmaloney | jcastro: Here's what I want out of Ubuntu Server. | 20:14 |
| cmaloney | I want the ability for it to schedule us a time to jam over at your place. :) | 20:14 |
| jcastro | We can't have a Rush song on boot | 20:14 |
| jcastro | I already asked | 20:14 |
| cmaloney | This is what I want. Make it so. :) | 20:15 |
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