| === BradCrittenden is now known as bac | ||
| rick_h_ | I think hatch sent us his weather. -21C 'feels like -29C (-7/-21 for us normal folks) brrrrrr | 12:26 |
|---|---|---|
| * rick_h_ goes to find the office space heater | 12:26 | |
| benji | rick_h_: and I though I was cold at 17F | 12:30 |
| benji | frankban: while gardening browser tabs I realized I forgot to answer your question about console colors; the 16 "basic" colors that all consoles can do are not standardized and vary quite a bit (those are the ones it looks like we're using for quickstart) | 12:32 |
| benji | (the non-basic 16 colors in the 256 color xterm extension are standardized) | 12:33 |
| frankban | benji: ack. They look different in xterm indeed | 12:33 |
| rick_h_ | benji: heh, you've beat our high for the day | 12:34 |
| benji | rick_h_: :) | 12:34 |
| rick_h_ | benji: on monday they predict a lovely high of 3 for us yay! | 12:34 |
| benji | heh | 12:34 |
| rick_h_ | I <3 colorama for console colors. Worked well when I used it once, but didn't test it out in a bunch of terminals. | 12:36 |
| frankban | rick_h_: "-21C feeling like -29C" sounds like "I am dead but I feel more dead" to me ;-) | 12:36 |
| frankban | benji: I followed this table: http://excess.org/urwid/docs/manual/displayattributes.html#foreground-and-background-settings . so is this a tradeoff between standardization and support? | 12:37 |
| benji | frankban: for what we're doing I would stick to the 16 standard colors and just be sure to pick colors that work well together. I'd be expecially careful about unusual or low-contrast fg/bg combinations as they are the most likely to have issues | 12:39 |
| frankban | benji: agreed, thank you | 12:40 |
| rick_h_ | frankban: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/colorama/0.2.7 just in case it's useful | 12:43 |
| frankban | rick_h_: cool thanks | 12:44 |
| === gary_poster|away is now known as gary_poster | ||
| === gary_poster is now known as gary_poster|away | ||
| === gary_poster|away is now known as gary_poster | ||
| frankban | gary_poster: morning, replied to your great QA comments, and pushed some changes. would you like to take a look? if you can't, no problem | 13:36 |
| gary_poster | hey frankban, yes, planning to. Ubuntu's mouse handling fell over for me again so I had to restart, and then I took some time off to switch from xchat to Konversation :-) will look in just one more minute or two | 13:37 |
| frankban | gary_poster: great thanks. curious about konversation: is it better? | 13:40 |
| gary_poster | frankban: the main thing I wanted was the ability to ctrl-z to undo. I would write a message in xchat and then unintentionally type over some large chunk of it and be unable to get it back. Konversation gives me ctrl-z undo in the message | 13:42 |
| frankban | gary_poster: ic | 13:43 |
| gary_poster | frankban: qa looks great. replied to rv | 13:51 |
| frankban | gary_poster: thank you! | 13:52 |
| bac | rick_h_, benji: quick charmworld QA question review, please. https://codereview.appspot.com/47490043 | 14:05 |
| benji | bac: on it | 14:05 |
| * bac just heard gillam explaining the Darth Vader doll we have for our nephew to the housekeeper. she's never heard of Star Wars. "Muy feo, muy feo." | 14:07 | |
| hatch_ | <translation> "it's choking me, it's choking me!" | 14:14 |
| === hatch_ is now known as hatch | ||
| hatch | really which that person would stop hopping on my username | 14:20 |
| hatch | wish* | 14:20 |
| frankban | guihelp: anyone available for a quick review + QA of https://codereview.appspot.com/47350044 (quickstart tab navigation in forms)? thank you | 14:24 |
| bac | frankban: sure | 14:24 |
| frankban | bac: thanks | 14:24 |
| hatch | rick_h_ lol even on my monitor your screenshot is huge haha | 14:24 |
| hatch | you must keep that thing 2" from your nose ;) | 14:25 |
| bac | frankban: doing QA, while editing an environment, i cannot use tab / shift-tab to move between the action "buttons" save/cancel/restore. i can move between them with arrow keys. is that expected? | 14:33 |
| frankban | bac: yes, that's the only downside of that implementation | 14:42 |
| bac | frankban: ok | 14:43 |
| bac | frankban: done | 14:44 |
| frankban | bac: thanks | 14:44 |
| frankban | gary_poster: updated the quickstart lane so that the release blockers are hight priority | 14:55 |
| gary_poster | perfect thanks frankban | 14:57 |
| benji | git is too much gun for what I want to do with VC | 14:59 |
| bac | benji: any progress on the review of my super complicated branch? | 15:04 |
| benji | bac: now that I decided to delete my gui checkout and rebuild it so git would stop doing things I don't understand... yes! | 15:05 |
| bac | benji: ever forced to use ClearCase? now *that* was an intrusive vcs. | 15:06 |
| bac | "don't mind me while i take over your file system..." | 15:06 |
| benji | heh, nope I've avoided that one | 15:06 |
| benji | bac: I can't get the new QA questions to show up. I'm just getting the "Work Needed Link" question and when I run "bin/migrations upgrade" I get "charmworld.migrations.migrate.MissingExodusIndex: Exodus index "charms_pending_019" does not exist." | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | benji: that's the bug I filed that you can't do an upgrade from a clean db currently | 15:45 |
| bac | benji: i had to hack it by removing the current version and running | 15:46 |
| bac | bin/migrations prepare-upgrade -i | 15:46 |
| bac | then bin/migrations upgrade | 15:46 |
| bac | benji: specifically, 'mongo juju' and 'db.migration_version.remove()' | 15:47 |
| bac | i should've added a note | 15:47 |
| bac | it would be nice if you could do 'prepare-upgrade -i --force' to prevent the short-circuit if the db is already versioned | 15:48 |
| gary_poster | jujugui call in 10 | 15:50 |
| benji | bac: looks good, QA is good | 15:57 |
| bac | benji: thanks | 15:57 |
| Makyo | jujugui call in 1 | 15:59 |
| gary_poster | jujugui call in 1 | 15:59 |
| gary_poster | thank you :-) | 15:59 |
| Makyo | :) | 15:59 |
| bac | benji: could you use the magic four letters in the review so it'll turn green? | 16:00 |
| Makyo | jujugui? :( | 16:00 |
| benji | bac: oh, sure | 16:00 |
| Makyo | Wrong room. | 16:01 |
| hatch | hey rick_h_ how did you bold that text in the chat? | 17:03 |
| rick_h_ | *bold* | 17:03 |
| hatch | oh haha | 17:03 |
| rick_h_ | gary_poster: I also marked high the card for the charm change for git branches as the second requirement to close up CI shop | 17:04 |
| rick_h_ | gary_poster: fyi, missed that in the quick glance at the call | 17:04 |
| gary_poster | rick_h_: agreed, thank you | 17:04 |
| rick_h_ | jujugui I'm pm'd everyone their jenkins password, username is irc nick per the call. Please test it out and let me know if you hit any issues. | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | and feel free to change/etc once you login | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | please let me know if you mess with the job configs as we don't have the backups yet :) | 18:05 |
| * hatch couldn't figure out why his juju testing box wouldn't let him ssh into it | 18:22 | |
| * hatch realized it would help if it was powered on | 18:22 | |
| hatch | *facepalm* | 18:22 |
| rick_h_ | "did you turn it off and on again?" | 18:22 |
| hatch | I clearly forgot the second part of that | 18:22 |
| hatch | haha | 18:22 |
| hatch | oo new juju agent state | 18:25 |
| hatch | 'down' | 18:25 |
| hatch | 1.17 has some definite updates | 18:26 |
| rick_h_ | bac: up for a doc review? I need someone with good engrish and that might bring up good questions. Feel free to punt and I'll ask around. https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/44/ | 18:40 |
| bac | rick_h_: sure, i engrish good | 18:43 |
| bac | rick_h_: and i really need to read these docs! | 18:44 |
| hatch | anyone else having issues hitting the YUI cdn? | 18:44 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: not here, seed file from cdn works peachy | 18:45 |
| rick_h_ | http://yui.yahooapis.com/3.14.1/build/yui/yui-min.js | 18:45 |
| hatch | well poop | 18:45 |
| hatch | internets must be broken here | 18:45 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: too cold for a cdn to work out there | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 18:46 |
| hatch | actually my vm has no interent at all | 18:46 |
| hatch | *ohsigh* | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | that would seem problematic | 18:46 |
| hatch | that it does | 18:47 |
| hatch | I really wish I could just run Ubuntu on metal on this thing | 18:47 |
| hatch | here's hoping for 14.10 :) | 18:47 |
| rick_h_ | I'm not even going to go there | 18:47 |
| hatch | lol | 18:47 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: try it out, running 14.04 here :) | 18:47 |
| hatch | 14.04 apparently still doesn't have high dpi support | 18:47 |
| hatch | oh wait | 18:48 |
| hatch | you're using a high dpi screen | 18:48 |
| hatch | is it blurry? | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | desktop is at least, thought I've not gotten my local juju up and running again yet | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | :) no, but I'm special | 18:48 |
| hatch | haha are you running any specialness to get it to not be blurry? | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | it's very nice and clea, no type hinting, antialiasing | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | I run a tiling window manager and the only gui app currently running is chrome :) | 18:49 |
| hatch | ohh right | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | just bumpted my fonts in vim and .Xdefaults to 14pt | 18:49 |
| hatch | you should switch into unity for me | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | wheeee | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, I can do that. sec, let me log out/in. What's blurry? | 18:49 |
| hatch | 14pt? That must be sacralige to you | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | the dash and such? or something else? | 18:49 |
| hatch | fonts, icons, everything | 18:49 |
| hatch | :) | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | sec | 18:49 |
| hatch | """./test-server.sh: line 15: PORT: command not found""" interesting | 18:51 |
| hatch | I haven't seen that before | 18:51 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: yea, that's my doing. | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: I need to fix that, it 'works' but it's extra output. | 18:53 |
| hatch | yeah it's working I just hadn't noticed it before...cool np | 18:54 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: so things are crashy for me, but I think that's my X config hacks to get things working. Blurry...meh. Seems like it's not as nice, but could just be font settings http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/ | 18:54 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: sorry, but cell phone pics handheld is all I could think to do for showing you how it looks | 18:54 |
| hatch | heh np, maybe I'll give it a go in a VM when i get some free time, 13.10 looks pretty bad in a vm on the 'retina' screen so maybe they tweaked some things in 14.04 to make it nicer | 18:55 |
| Makyo | Maybe not. | 19:09 |
| bac | rick_h_: wow, i really hate that individual comments in github are sent out separately. | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | bac: yea :/ | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | bac: sorry, I wanted to hit each to make sure I got eaach one | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | I'll hold back on that now that you mention the hate | 19:24 |
| bac | shocking to see that you've already made most of the changes before i did the review! | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | bac: yes, that's another thing we've been debating/working through | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | due to the number of emails I wanted to start so I could possibly land it before EOD | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | I got greedy | 19:25 |
| bac | and we thought LP was spammy/chatty | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 19:25 |
| bac | rick_h_: very nice doc, btw. hope i wasn't too nit-picky. | 19:26 |
| rick_h_ | bac: I appreciate it all. It's why I asked you in particular to look at them | 19:26 |
| bac | hey hatch i just got followed by a female welder in saskatoon on G+. she might be one of your neighbors! | 19:28 |
| rick_h_ | bac: so feel a bit more warm/fuzzy on how things work then? | 19:31 |
| bac | rick_h_: what do you mean? | 19:32 |
| rick_h_ | bac| rick_h_: and i really need to read these docs! | 19:32 |
| rick_h_ | are there any lingering questions you had hoped to have answered then? | 19:32 |
| hatch | bac haha oh yeah? | 19:34 |
| hatch | linky? | 19:34 |
| bac | rick_h_: nope | 19:34 |
| rick_h_ | bac: ok cool, thanks again for going through all that. | 19:35 |
| hatch | hehehe http://xkcd.com/1312/ | 19:49 |
| Makyo | Yay, got it! Can now just vagrant up and work! | 19:49 |
| Makyo | :T | 19:51 |
| gary_poster | Yay Makyo :-) | 20:19 |
| hatch | Makyo that's awesome | 20:19 |
| hatch | my setup right now is to fire up the vm in parallels and then type 'mountvm && sshvm' into the terminal :) | 20:20 |
| gary_poster | bac, floobits definitely alpha/beta, but... try joining garyposter/gui-process? | 20:23 |
| bac | gary_poster: i haven't gotten my emacs right yet | 20:23 |
| gary_poster | bac oh ok cool. lemme know | 20:23 |
| bac | gary_poster: they suggest you install using thing A but it depends on thing B and then i gave up | 20:24 |
| bac | gary_poster: and i tried creating an organization but that seems to have failed | 20:24 |
| gary_poster | bac it worked | 20:24 |
| gary_poster | the organization did | 20:24 |
| bac | gary_poster: plus i'm busy setting staging on fire right now | 20:24 |
| gary_poster | I had another one too | 20:24 |
| bac | gary_poster: oh did it? well it didn't make me a member... | 20:24 |
| gary_poster | oh you go light that thing up then | 20:25 |
| bac | gary_poster: so maybe you can invite me back to my own group | 20:25 |
| gary_poster | you are a member | 20:25 |
| gary_poster | https://floobits.com/org/jujugui/members | 20:25 |
| gary_poster | bac can you see https://floobits.com/org/jujugui/edit ? | 20:26 |
| hazmat | guy on the home page almost looks like free from the landscape team | 20:26 |
| gary_poster | bac alternatively we can use mine https://floobits.com/org/juju-gui/edit | 20:26 |
| bac | hazmat: the upsidedown guy? | 20:28 |
| bac | the other guy looks stevea-ish | 20:28 |
| gary_poster | heh | 20:28 |
| gary_poster | yeah somewhat to both | 20:28 |
| bac | and all bjorns look alike | 20:28 |
| bac | ok, not really | 20:28 |
| hazmat | bac, https://plus.google.com/100676251616734338806/posts | 20:29 |
| hatch | very cool https://github.com/omphalos/earhorn demo http://omphalos.github.io/earhorn/index.html#iframe=examples/mouse.html | 20:29 |
| bac | hazmat: yeah, i know free | 20:30 |
| hazmat | hmm.. not sure about stevea ref, but the site looks pretty cool | 20:31 |
| gary_poster | funky hatch | 20:31 |
| bac | gary_poster: the qa assessment on staging now renders properly in the juju gui. so charmworld is ready to land once we get past this blasted weekend. | 20:31 |
| gary_poster | yay bac, thank you | 20:31 |
| Makyo | Man, xchat keeps stealing focus. | 20:34 |
| bac | gary_poster: it looks like flowbie really prefers i use emacs24. :( | 20:35 |
| gary_poster | bac you are using 23? | 20:36 |
| bac | gary_poster: yeah | 20:36 |
| gary_poster | bac, oh. get with the times, man! :-) but that does kind of put a damper on things | 20:36 |
| bac | gary_poster: installing 24 now | 20:36 |
| gary_poster | :-) k | 20:37 |
| hatch | woah we have emacs users? | 20:37 |
| hatch | how did I not know that! | 20:37 |
| gary_poster | bah | 20:37 |
| hatch | I have this on my wall http://xkcd.com/378/ hehe | 20:37 |
| bac | gary_poster: ok, so i'm using your workspace and editing a file. now what? | 20:45 |
| gary_poster | bac, which file? | 20:45 |
| hatch | write him a poem | 20:45 |
| hatch | kehehe | 20:45 |
| bac | browser.js i think | 20:45 |
| bac | and i'm in a hangout | 20:46 |
| bac | this pair programming is fun! | 20:46 |
| gary_poster | lol | 20:46 |
| bac | i thought it would've invited you to the hangout. guess i have to do it manually | 20:46 |
| bac | gary_poster: i got the hangout invites but only on my phone and tablet. you got an url? | 20:50 |
| gary_poster | bac https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpimgb6rim8k849kop3q0feo | 20:51 |
| hatch | jujugui looking for a review for https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/45 (no qa, just tests) | 21:07 |
| Makyo | jujugui someone willing to test vagrant? https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/41 | 21:08 |
| hatch | Makyo sure | 21:08 |
| hatch | if you review mine :P | 21:08 |
| Makyo | Thanks | 21:08 |
| hatch | tradezies | 21:08 |
| hatch | it'll take me a bit as I don't have VB or Vagrant :) | 21:09 |
| Makyo | NP, will look at yours | 21:09 |
| hatch | Makyo oh wait I am getting a CI failure | 21:10 |
| hatch | checking.... | 21:10 |
| hatch | I'll still do the vagrant test if noone takes it before I finish resolving this | 21:10 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: heading out to get the boy from day care. I'll check in later tonight if there's something to this CI update, but it looks like normal failing tests | 21:11 |
| hatch | rick_h_ yeah this looks like something in my branch | 21:11 |
| hatch | odd, I ran the suite before pushing | 21:11 |
| hatch | oh | 21:11 |
| hatch | it fails when not under .only | 21:12 |
| hatch | w t f | 21:12 |
| hatch | ╯□）╯︵-┻━┻ | 21:12 |
| hatch | Makyo ok it should be fixed | 21:16 |
| hatch | now to vagrant | 21:16 |
| hatch | bac gary_poster hows the pair programming? | 21:22 |
| gary_poster | hatch worked great | 21:25 |
| gary_poster | going to encourage team to join | 21:25 |
| gary_poster | a bit clunky to get started | 21:25 |
| gary_poster | but after that was good | 21:25 |
| hatch | awesome | 21:29 |
| hatch | I cant' wait | 21:29 |
| hatch | Makyo looks like about 10-15min until the image is done for vagrant | 21:30 |
| Makyo | hatch, the first time. | 21:30 |
| Makyo | You can then do vagrant down; don't have to destroy. | 21:31 |
| hatch | yeah, I was just giving a status update | 21:31 |
| hatch | haha oh man would it suck if it needed to do that every time | 21:31 |
| Makyo | My day :T | 21:31 |
| Makyo | But thankfully, once you have the box image, it's closer to 5min. | 21:31 |
| hatch | TIL: you can swipe away growl notifications | 21:31 |
| hatch | Ubuntu does so many things better than OSX | 21:32 |
| hatch | UbuntuBook Pro | 21:34 |
| hatch | one day ;) | 21:34 |
| hatch_ | umm | 21:40 |
| hatch_ | wow | 21:40 |
| hatch_ | I guess mac's have a grey screen of death | 21:40 |
| hatch_ | it was probably Makyo's vagrant script fault | 21:42 |
| === hatch_ is now known as hatch | ||
| hatch | Makyo do you halt or suspend usually? | 21:56 |
| Makyo | Halt. | 21:57 |
| Makyo | Suspend if I were going to pack up for the night and suspend my computer. | 21:58 |
| hatch | it's installing the npm deps right now | 21:59 |
| hatch | internet is going slow | 21:59 |
| hatch | but I'm pretty confident that it's all good | 21:59 |
| Makyo | Yeah, the thing to check for is make test-debug crashing 2/3 of the way through | 22:01 |
| Makyo | If nothing else, it works for me, so I'll be good on the sprint. | 22:01 |
| Makyo | Just won't check it in. | 22:01 |
| hatch | so workflow wise do you do your git flow stuff from inside the vagrant machine or outside of it? | 22:02 |
| hatch | I'm not familiar with vagrant | 22:02 |
| hatch | it looks like /vagrant is the same as the source folder | 22:03 |
| Makyo | Outside. | 22:04 |
| Makyo | Only using the vagrant for running any make targets. | 22:05 |
| Makyo | All editing/git/etc. takes place on the host. | 22:05 |
| gary_poster | oh, that's nice | 22:07 |
| hatch | and is it true that the /vagrant is the source folder? | 22:07 |
| Makyo | Yes, sorry. | 22:07 |
| hatch | make devel and make test-debug A-OK | 22:08 |
| Makyo | \o/ | 22:08 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: so all is well? | 22:09 |
| Makyo | Thanks hatch | 22:09 |
| hatch | rick_h_ with vagrant or the ci? | 22:09 |
| hatch | Makyo np | 22:09 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: CI, I want to do a CI victory dance | 22:09 |
| hatch | oh haha yeah it's all good, the issue was with our test suite, it should have failed when being run locally | 22:09 |
| hatch | tbh, I don't know how it ran in previous tests lol | 22:10 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: ok coolio, /me does my danced | 22:10 |
| gary_poster | danced is a daemon? | 22:10 |
| rick_h_ | compile my own vim, man gary_poster REALLY wants to use this tool :P | 22:10 |
| rick_h_ | bah, I'm trying to get back to using the kenisis | 22:11 |
| hatch | Makyo do you know where the vagrant files are? I just want to see how much HD space it's using | 22:11 |
| rick_h_ | my typing is suffering during the transition back | 22:11 |
| Makyo | .vagrant | 22:11 |
| Makyo | Plus wherever it keeps the box templates | 22:11 |
| Makyo | Which will vary by system. | 22:11 |
| gary_poster | rick_h_: heh, I wanted to see what the reaction was, actually :-) If that's a non-starter then there goes the idea | 22:11 |
| rick_h_ | but back to single monitor, ergo keyboard, etc. Hopefully it's all good for me. Like techie vitamins | 22:11 |
| rick_h_ | gary_poster: I didn't look closely beyond the email. If it's useful then cool. I'm not against compiling | 22:12 |
| hatch | famous last words | 22:12 |
| * gary_poster actually snorted | 22:12 | |
| rick_h_ | gary_poster: but currently can't say I've paired enough to make it worth a ton of work, which I understand this is to help :) | 22:12 |
| gary_poster | rick_h_: we should be pairing more IMO :-) | 22:12 |
| gary_poster | tools help | 22:12 |
| hatch | haha | 22:13 |
| hatch | yeah I actually enjoy pairing | 22:13 |
| rick_h_ | gary_poster: understood, will try to peek at it over the weekend perhaps. /me did compile vim once a while ago but been a while | 22:13 |
| gary_poster | rick_h_: heh, cool. broadly agree that I don't want us to spend too much time on it | 22:14 |
| gary_poster | thanks | 22:14 |
| hatch | rick_h_ you can also step into the modern world and start using sublime | 22:14 |
| hatch | it has a vim mode :P | 22:14 |
| hatch | as much as I hate supporting the author it's a darn good product :) | 22:14 |
| gary_poster | sublime 3's vim mode is supposedly significantly improved AIUI | 22:15 |
| gary_poster | I think you will take vim out of benji's cold dead hands | 22:15 |
| hatch | lol | 22:16 |
| gary_poster | don't know how strongly rick_h_ feels about it comparison | 22:16 |
| hatch | he doesn't even use a real GUI | 22:16 |
| hatch | :P | 22:16 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 22:16 |
| hatch | Makyo it puts the box images in ~/.vagrant.d and it's ~393M from your install | 22:18 |
| hatch | so that's pretty reasonable considering the size of my real vm | 22:18 |
| Makyo | Ah, cool. | 22:18 |
| Makyo | Yeah, for sure. | 22:18 |
| * Makyo dogwalk | 22:23 | |
| rick_h_ | hatch: vim or die | 22:25 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: nice short summary :) | 22:25 |
| gary_poster | lol | 22:25 |
| rick_h_ | It took me a lot of pain and years of getting used to it and I can't stand tabs, wasted chrome space, or waiting for my editor. :) | 22:26 |
| rick_h_ | I find the farther back in time I go, the nicer dev gets, so long as it's on a giant pretty high res screen with pretty fonts :) | 22:27 |
| gary_poster | heh, +1 on pretty fonts. I couldn't stand emacs when I tried it a few years back because of the font situation. That was better during my last emacs fling | 22:28 |
| hatch | :) | 22:29 |
| rick_h_ | yea, after I got good at vim I wanted to give emacs a real try | 22:29 |
| rick_h_ | but lack of TTF had me running on day 2 | 22:29 |
| hatch | lack of TTF? | 22:29 |
| hatch | and it's a TEXT editor? | 22:29 |
| hatch | lol | 22:29 |
| rick_h_ | true type font support | 22:29 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 22:29 |
| hatch | someone is writing an editor in Go | 22:30 |
| hatch | will be interesting if it gets off the ground | 22:30 |
| * gary_poster has bad golang attitude | 22:30 | |
| gary_poster | if they get generics maybe I'll be willing to try reducing the grump a bit | 22:31 |
| hatch | Bleh | 22:31 |
| * gary_poster running | 22:31 | |
| gary_poster | have a great weekend! | 22:31 |
| === gary_poster is now known as gary_poster|away | ||
| hatch | have a good one! | 22:32 |
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