[00:46] <bennypr0fane> hello, I'm trying to mount a network share in nautilus (Lubuntu 13.04 with Gnome 3.8 on top). I believe that is supposed to work like "connect to server", enter an URL and click "connect". This is where I stumble, because the "connect" button is greyed out, I can't click it
[00:46] <holstein> i use gigolo
[00:46] <holstein> !info gigolo
[00:47] <holstein> bennypr0fane: otherwise, you might be missing something nautilus needs to have that functionality
[01:00] <bennypr0fane> holstein, I thought that was supposed to be built in in Nautilus
[01:01] <bennypr0fane> otherwise, why does it even have the "connect to server" thingy?
[01:02] <bennypr0fane> I've used Gigolo with Thunar in Xfce. Does it link to Nautilus the same way?
[01:05] <holstein> bennypr0fane: gigolo will just allow you to mount the share.. you'll be able to use whatever filemanager you want to browse
[01:10] <bennypr0fane> ok. but still, is there something broken in my nautilus, or is there just something missing?
[01:10] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i have no idea.. if you havent added all that is necessary to provide that functionality, then, it may not be there
[01:11] <holstein> bennypr0fane: nothing is "broken", since, you can mount shares
[01:11] <bennypr0fane> I cannot, in Nautilus
[01:11] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i was thinking that functionality had been dropped from nautilus, but, TBH, i have only opened it for testing purposes, and lightly
[01:11] <holstein> bennypr0fane: you actually likely can
[01:12] <holstein> bennypr0fane: you'll need to manually add and configure it, as you did nautilus, and gnome
[01:12] <bennypr0fane> you mean without using gigolo?
[01:12] <holstein> bennypr0fane: gigolo is doing what that "connect to server" did
[01:12] <holstein> bennypr0fane: its mounting with a GUI
[01:14] <bennypr0fane> I understand that
[01:15] <bennypr0fane> maybe mount-gtk was missing
[01:15] <holstein> bennypr0fane: maybe?
[01:15] <bennypr0fane> I just installed it. Now I'll check if "connect to server" works
[01:15] <holstein> bennypr0fane: check and see, and try adding it, if you think that is what adds the fucntionality.. you should be able to use a package manager like synaptic for that easily
[01:17] <bennypr0fane> nah, still not working :-(
[01:17] <holstein> bennypr0fane: the functionality may have been removed
[01:18] <holstein> bennypr0fane: you might want to ask in #ubuntu or somewhere else where they might no more about nautilus
[01:19] <bennypr0fane> ha, maybe in #ubuntu-gnome
[01:20] <bennypr0fane> bcs they don't in #ubuntu...
[01:20] <holstein> bennypr0fane: it likely just works, in main ubuntu, out of the box.. or, that fucntionality is being phased out completely
[01:20] <holstein> bennypr0fane: its going to be challening, since you are building everything on your own
[01:22] <bennypr0fane> I'll be switching to ubuntu-gnome soon. If I can't make it work, I'll just use Gigolo. That was a piece of cake in Xfce
[01:23] <bennypr0fane> thanks holstein! bye!
[01:23] <holstein> bennypr0fane: cheers
[01:25] <vince__> i hosed (accidentally removed) my windows 8 partition and decided on 13.10 lubuntu, anyone have tips on how to customize lxde to return some of the functionality in the "iconify all windows" button in lxpanel?
[01:57] <holstein> vince__: return some of the windows8 functionality?
[02:22] <ianorlin> what functionality does it miss?
[02:23] <ianorlin> I don't know how to make it show the desktop on omsuover
[02:51] <ret346346> Hi, if anyone might be able to help a noob, I'm trying to install lubuntu 12.04 on an IBM T42, and I get "unable to enumerate USB device on port 3" a ton of times. I figured I could just try a CD but wanted to try to figure out what is going wrong first.
[02:51] <ret346346> I did just install Windows XP on the computer, and the USB ports seem fine
[02:52] <holstein> ret346346: sometimes i try just unplugging everything that is uncessary
[02:52] <holstein> unecessary
[02:54] <ret346346> All I had plugged in was the flash drive w/ the lubuntu install, only other thing was the ethernet cable which I did unplug
[02:55] <ret346346> Got the same error when just trying to run it as a live CD, without the install
[02:55] <holstein> not sure where i would go there.. i might disable USB in the bios.. and try installing
[02:56] <ret346346> I'll look into that, as long as the USB ports work once it's installed that's all that really matters
[02:56] <ret346346> Thanks
[03:01] <holstein> ret346346: what iso are you on?
[03:01] <holstein> ret346346: you might want to try the lubuntu 13.10 version.. technically, lubuntu 12.04 is not an LTS, and is not supported any longer.. not that i think that is the issue
[03:03] <ret346346> Well this CPU is non-pae, which is why I went with the 12.04 version
[03:03] <holstein> ret346346: hmmm... well, i use it as well.. i mean, main ubuntu 12.04 is still up, and the repos are still good
[03:05] <ret346346> Just burned a 12.04 CD, am trying it now
[03:08] <ret346346> I'm guessing a pen drive should be showing up in file manager in Lubuntu?
[03:08] <ianorlin> by default yes
[03:09] <ret346346> Showed up for a second then disappeared, will need to investigate
[03:10] <ret346346> On the plus side it booted and loaded fine from the CD
[03:10] <holstein> ret346346: progress!
[03:10] <ret346346> Thanks
[03:10] <holstein> maybe you can install, and upgrade, and all will be well
[03:11] <ret346346> True, and there's some "fake-pae" thing you can install to upgrade older computers to the newer version
[03:16] <ret346346> hey I fixed it!!!
[03:17] <ret346346> Had to disable ehci_hcd
[04:00] <honestemu> How do I get visual notifications to return? They aren't appearing anymore. For example, when I adjust the volume, a little balloon appeared in the top-right indicating the volume. Now nothing happens.
[04:01] <ianorlin> honestemu: using what program?
[04:03] <honestemu> Uh... dunno. I thought it was system-wide? Like when I connect to a wireless network, a balloon appears in the top right telling me which network I connected to. Now, nothing appears.
[04:03] <Unit193> What does   ps aux | grep notifyd   return?
[04:06] <honestemu> 1000     26627  0.0  0.0   5668   828 pts/7    S+   23:05   0:00 grep --color=auto notifyd
[04:07] <Unit193> Mhmm, xfce4-notifyd isn't running, is it installed?
[04:07] <honestemu> Not sure what that means.
[04:07] <honestemu> mmhmm. It's installed.
[04:16] <Unit193> So, set that to autostart, or launch it now, and should have them.
[04:29] <honestemu> Unit193: Uh... how do I do that?
[04:31] <Unit193> The binary is: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd  using ~/.config/autostart/ would help
[04:39] <honestemu> Unit193: So I just copy paste the binary into the autostart folder, right?
[04:40] <Unit193> No, create a desktop file.
[04:42] <honestemu> Unit193:Um... I'm inept.
[04:43] <Unit193> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart
[04:47] <honestemu> What should I put for the Exec line? I'm guessing: 'sh /usr/lib/i396-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd'?
[04:50] <Unit193> Just /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd
[04:52] <honestemu> Oh nice.
[04:53] <Unit193> It should autostart, but I don't see how by glancing at it.
[05:15] <uBUXUBu> hi all
[07:28] <flyback> how the hell do I swap soundcards
[07:28] <flyback> there's n o .asoundrc anymore
[11:00] <_joey> for some reason lubuntu stopped auto-updating
[11:02] <Church> try sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal, to see for possible problems
[11:04] <_joey> there're no problems
[11:04] <_joey> from terminal
[11:04] <_joey> it's just the system stopped update automatically at specified intervals
[11:55] <ST66> my lubuntu trip got really short. i don't undertand how people can use so buggy distro. going back good old xubuntu
[17:45] <leszek> hi
[19:12] <Devtron_> hi
[19:17] <vicky> hi
[19:20] <zleap> hi
[19:21] <vicky> how to become lubuntu developer
[19:22] <holstein> !contribute
[19:22] <holstein> vicky: the #lubuntu-offtopic channel is loosely the dev channel
[19:24] <Devtron_> how to get it installed would be my first question :/
[19:24] <holstein> !install | Devtron_
[19:26] <Devtron_> my prople is the old laptop that i want to use it one, is a pain to get it running on
[19:26] <Devtron_> pae trouble that is
[19:26] <Devtron_> been at it for about 2 hours now
[19:32] <holstein> Devtron_: 12.04 should support that, easily
[19:33] <Devtron_> I was hoping to install a new version 13.x
[19:33] <holstein> Devtron_: i would use a 12.04 mini iso, and install the base mini system, then add lxde desktop or whatever
[19:33] <holstein> Devtron_: you can.. but, its not trivial
[19:33] <holstein> Devtron_: and, 12.04 is more in line with your older hardware
[19:34] <Devtron_> is there a very light version with an ide that can run on this system with 1gb ram
[19:34] <holstein> Devtron_: i just suggested a light version, and you should be able to find an ide that will work in the main 12.04 repos
[19:35] <holstein> otherwise, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
[19:35] <Unit193> Could compile a kernel without PAE support.
[19:35] <holstein> yup.. use your own custom kernel that fits your needs
[19:35] <phillw> Unit193: there is an alpha out for lubuntu with a non-pae kernel.
[19:36] <Unit193> Yes, I know..
[19:36] <phillw> but, I do stress, it is an alpha! the installation is in German at default and there is a respin due.
[19:36] <holstein> i would try the alpha.. wouldnt bother me any
[19:37] <Devtron_> lol
[19:37] <Devtron_> i am a linux noob, have not used it in 15 years
[19:38] <holstein> Devtron_: you are not having an issue where you are not used to linux.. you are using technology that is incompatible
[19:38] <Devtron_> yep
[19:38] <holstein> Devtron_: you would have a similar, if not much more challenging time with something like windows 8 for example.. or OSX on that hardware
[19:38] <Devtron_> but telling me to recompile a version that I could use is not trivial from what i remember
[19:38] <holstein> Devtron_: i offered a few ideas above, and none require compiling anything
[19:40] <Devtron_> holstein: I have tryed to download those images, but out of 3 dvd burning software for windows, none will use there image file
[19:42] <phillw> Devtron_: what specification of machine are you wanting to use? (sorry, if you have already stated, but I've only just joined this conversation)
[19:43] <Devtron_> an old imb thinkpad, with an intel centrino cpu, 1gb ram , amd radonn 7500 (old as hell)
[19:43] <holstein> !mini
[19:43] <Devtron_> I want to leave this sytem at work.
[19:44] <holstein> Devtron_: thats where i would start, its small and quick to download and install.. you can see right off if it will work for you or not
[19:44] <Devtron_> so I need a 12.x version ?
[19:44] <holstein> the iso's are not "magic".. if you have no way to deal with iso's and burn them or use them with usb sticks, then it wont work
[19:44] <phillw> Devtron_: as holstein has said, it may work okay with the fake-pae a number of them do
[19:44] <holstein> Devtron_: you dont "need" anything.. you might want to consider using 12.04 since it might better and more easily support your hardware "out of the box"
[19:45] <holstein> Devtron_: thre are other options when not having a pae compatible system
[19:45] <Devtron_> ill try 12.04 then
[19:45] <Devtron_> as long as it will run code blocks or what ever ide i can use that works well with c++
[19:46] <holstein> Devtron_: nothing about linux or lubuntu is preventing the creators of any ide from allowing it to run for you
[19:46] <holstein> !ide
[19:46] <phillw> holstein: the fake pae install is not in minimal afaik. it is an extra bit of coding to 'tell' the installer that the machine is PAE capable, even though it does not advertise it.
[19:47] <holstein> phillw: i think i linked that above.. but if you have a better guide
[19:47] <holstein> Devtron_: to be clear, this would be a fake-pae setup.. to run 13.10 on your hardware
[19:48] <phillw> Devtron_: for fake-pae, you are going to have to roll your sleeves up and do a little reading. the guy who put it together also put up a really good explanatation of it and how to use it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
[19:49] <Devtron_> phillw read that
[19:49] <Devtron_> but for some reason the img files says corrupt
[19:49] <Devtron_> iso´s i can burn, but the img are giving me issues
[19:50] <phillw> Devtron_: where are you getting the image from?
[19:50] <holstein> Devtron_: they should be iso's
[19:50] <Devtron_> http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu-fake-pae/
[19:51] <phillw> that area, I know is okay. Have you run an md5checksum on the down-loaded file?
[19:51] <Devtron_> they are fine
[19:52] <Devtron_> I think it is an issue with the burning software
[19:52] <holstein> Devtron_: try something different
[19:52] <phillw> Devtron_: okay, so it is burned image that is corrupt.... It is most important we know the ISO as downloaded is okay!
[19:52] <Devtron_> but I am up to 3 diffrent softwares
[19:52] <holstein> Devtron_: could also be the physical optical drive, or the media
[19:52] <Devtron_> the program that is to burn them says errors
[19:52] <phillw> Devtron_: name one that you have used?
[19:53] <Devtron_> nero
[19:53] <Devtron_> img burn
[19:53] <Devtron_> and windows burning
[19:53] <ianorlin> or is this windows software not understanding the linux file structure
[19:54] <phillw> Devtron_: head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto for how to burn with windows
[19:54] <Devtron_> humm, minimal ubuntu install frezes
[19:54] <holstein> Devtron_: what minimal? 12.04? 32bit? what iso?
[19:55] <Devtron_> the iso files work, it is the .img files
[19:55] <holstein> Devtron_: rename the img's to iso's and try
[19:55] <holstein> Devtron_: convert the img's to iso's and try
[19:55] <holstein> Devtron_: try a different burning application.. why img's?
[19:56] <phillw> Devtron_: nero is not all it is cracked up be! I used to swear by it, until it came to ISO's (back in my windows days.) Please, just follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto and you will have a good CD
[19:56] <Devtron_> the selected file isn´t vali
[19:56] <Devtron_> valid
[19:56] <holstein> Devtron_: what file?
[19:57] <Devtron_> the image files from
[19:57] <Devtron_> http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu-fake-pae/
[19:57] <holstein> Devtron_: you tried renaming them *.iso ?
[19:57] <Devtron_> yes
[19:58] <holstein> Devtron_: you read what phillw linked on how to burn them? what other applications are you using?
[20:06] <Devtron_> downloading the alpha and testing that
[20:07] <phillw> Devtron_: you *must* burn it using the information on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto and *NOT* Nero....
[20:08] <Devtron_> iso files are not the problem
[20:09] <Devtron_> the problem is that the files on that website are not .iso but .img
[20:09] <Devtron_> iso´s burn fine
[20:09] <Devtron_> burning the alpha atm that is .iso
[20:09] <holstein> Devtron_: you said you were having issues with the 12.04 mini
[20:09] <holstein> its an iso
[20:09] <Devtron_> yep
[20:09] <Devtron_> I get to the install screen press install and then it locks
[20:09] <Devtron_> in 5min ill try the alpha biuld
[20:10] <holstein> as long as "nero is not burning properly" is on the table
[20:11] <Devtron_> it wont evean consider burning it
[20:11] <holstein> Devtron_: what wont even consider burning what?
[20:12] <Devtron_> nero
[20:12] <Devtron_> sec
[20:12] <Devtron_> installing the 2014 version¨
[20:12] <holstein> of what?
[20:13] <holstein> nero?
[20:13] <Devtron_> yes'
[20:13] <phillw> Devtron_: use http://infrarecorder.org/ and *NOT* Nero. I know you do not trust us, but you can spend until hell freezes over using Nero, or you can actually use a programme that works... It is your call.
[20:14] <phillw> where Nero to work, it would be listed as working.
[20:14] <holstein> it is advised by many folks who have booting cd's
[20:19] <Devtron_> infraredcorder will not burn any of the .img files
[20:20] <holstein> Devtron_: ok.. forget the img's
[20:20] <holstein> Devtron_: how about the iso's?
[20:20] <Devtron_> all iso files i cna burn
[20:20] <Devtron_> NO files with .img
[20:20] <holstein> Devtron_: sure.. but, they are not working
[20:20] <holstein> Devtron_: so, there is an issue somewhere with the burning of the isos or the booting of them on your system
[20:20] <Devtron_> I testes on 2 systems
[20:21] <holstein> Devtron_: or, something else.. bad memory.. some other device hanging the boot
[20:21] <holstein> Devtron_: you've tested what? the iso's you burned on 2 systems?
[20:21] <holstein> Devtron_: they dont boot on either system?
[20:21] <holstein> Devtron_: if so, then that sounds like the burn is bad
[20:21] <Devtron_> no i am unable to burn .img files,
[20:21] <Devtron_> iso´s have ALL ben burnt
[20:22] <holstein> Devtron_: OK
[20:22] <holstein> Devtron_: *forget* about the img's
[20:22] <phillw> Devtron_: how is your basic german?
[20:22] <Devtron_> the .img from that site are the ones not working
[20:22] <holstein> Devtron_: you said iso's were not working
[20:22] <holstein> Devtron_: you said the mini iso didnt work
[20:22] <holstein> Devtron_: does *any* other 12.04 iso burn and work? if so, you should be able to just use it
[20:22] <holstein> that would be potentically easiest
[20:22] <phillw> Devtron_: try http://phillw.net/isos/non-pae/lubuntu-saucy-nonpae-alpha1.iso
[20:23] <holstein> or that is an iso ^^
[20:23] <phillw> it is a trial iso, but will work with your system with no need to do extra work... Even nero can burn a pure .iso :)
[20:23] <Devtron_> the mini iso, was burnt, and loaded on the system, when the window pops up that askes me to install the mini i hit install, and the program locks up
[20:24] <Devtron_> phillw: playing with that now :)
[20:24] <holstein> Devtron_: ok.. so *stop* using that one as well
[20:24] <holstein> Devtron_: use the alpha above. if it doesnt work, dont assume the iso is bad.. try using a different burning software
[20:24] <Devtron_> all iso burnt work, no coruption on the dvd´s
[20:25] <holstein> Devtron_: i would confirm that, otherwise, its an assumption
[20:27] <Devtron_> humm
[20:27] <Devtron_> z and y have been reversed
[20:28] <holstein> z and y?
[20:28] <Devtron_> keys :)
[20:36] <Devtron_> phillw: ´what issues can come up with the aplha build
[20:37] <phillw> Devtron_: just that the default is in german and you need to change it your language.
[20:41] <Devtron_> ah
[20:42] <Devtron_> That should not be a problem
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Why does the Lubuntu Live image have a login?
[23:40] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: for 13.10 ?
[23:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Uh, yeah.
[23:40] <SonikkuAmerica> It seems to depend on the amount of RAM
[23:41] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: report as a bug
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll test if a trusty pre-release exposes this too
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> What should I file this against?
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> lightdm?
[23:42] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: that would be great, but the apps to file against are on the iso tracker page....
[23:43] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, I'll check that. More extensive i386 testing on my part to follow...
[23:43] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker
[23:44] <SonikkuAmerica> It has nothing to do with syslinux, so lightdm is good for filing
[23:45] <phillw> sorry for long pauses having a borocken finger strapped up to good finger does slow my typing down :)
[23:46] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: we have no i386 test iso?
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> I have one, but I can't download it due to shared data plan :( if you want I can wait until I can grab a daily
[23:50] <SonikkuAmerica> (48 hrs earlis)
[23:50] <SonikkuAmerica> (earliest)
[23:55] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: what is called i386 on the download areas is actually i686