[00:02] <talsamon> sigh.. same question as everytimes ubuntu updates the kernel ...why dkms on ubuntu 13.10 don't, work - i have everytime install de nvidia-driver new
[00:03] <talsamon> why does not do automaticly ... have i something to do with the /etc/dkms.conf .. the /usr/src/... /nvidia-173/dkms.conf is there....??
[00:09] <bbba> hi eveyone! I have a question here. how can two laptops with ubuntu studio chat and acess files from each other directly via wireless?
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> bbba nfs shares are samba shares
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> or*
[00:11] <bekks> And the good old ssh and wall :)
[00:12] <bbba> but i do i need to have internet access? I'd like the to laptops to talk to each other directly
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> bbba: they are local share protocols. no inet access required
[00:13] <bbba> ok great! is it hard to do it? can you recomend somewhere to look for info on it?
[00:13] <gvo> hitsujiTMO: however a router might be.
[00:14] <gvo> Unless you configure one of them as an access point,  perhaps.
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> gvo: ahh yeah, wasn't thinking like that
[00:15] <narnar> hey guys im having something of a black screen problem and i tried nomodeset and it didnt work, i went from a black screen of death to a purple screen of deat
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> bbba: do you have a way to network the two laptops together?
[00:15] <gvo> I thing he might want to connect two laptops without any other hardware.
[00:16] <RedHatter> Couldn't you ssh?
[00:16] <bbba> yes i'd like to connect them without any other hardware involved. is it possible?
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> bbba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[00:17] <narnar> anyway it was an initial install so i havent been able to log into the xserver yet
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> bbba: the difficulty lies in what hardware you have
[00:18] <narnar> and when i try to boot safe mode x it just frezzes until i hit ctl alt del then it loads a window saying my drivers are off, but the ctl alt del makes it immedietly restart
[00:18] <narnar> when i get to said window
[00:18] <narnar> before i can fix thie issue
[00:19] <bbba> i don't know much about networks yet. has it something to do with ad-hoc?
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> bbba: adhoc is a method of connecting multiples devices wirelessly without any infrastructure devices.
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> so there is no onger a build-essential package?What replaced it?
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: nope, still there
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: I had an s at the end.. cant believe this isnt installed by default... I mean ubuntu is so bloated but it doesnt come with gcc haha
[00:28] <Beldar> mmmm the pseudo geeks favorite word "bloated"
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: most peeps dont need gcc
[00:29] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: based on what?
[00:29] <PublicStaticVoid> WHat research tells you that, cause that is complete BS
[00:30] <PublicStaticVoid> 80 percent of linux uers build something from source once in a while
[00:30] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: [citation needed]
[00:30] <ObrienDave> rofl
[00:30] <PublicStaticVoid> You are the ones claiming most pople don't need it
[00:30] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: they don't
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> when your ditro is preloaded with software that most people actually dont neeed, hillarious
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: and those people are well capable of installing build-essential. Most peeps don't build something from source because they don't need to.
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> gordonjcp: Prove it
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> show me any data
[00:31] <ObrienDave> show us your
[00:31] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: show me any data that says users *do* ever compile stuff
[00:31] <ObrienDave> *yours
[00:31] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: I don't count, since I develop for a whole bunch of different systems and have all manner of weirdass compilers, not just various flavours of gcc
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> You are the one claiming that people do not need it.. so you show me
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> Cause you can't. I is BS
[00:32] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: how do you propose I do that?
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> But whatever.. it is Ubuntu.. what can you do.. haha.
[00:32] <gordonjcp> what would you like me to show you?
[00:33] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: basically, Chrome OS will end up overtaking all the other desktop OSes before long
[00:33] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: about 90% of users of *any* OS only ever use a web browser
[00:33] <gordonjcp> as long as they can get facebook and gmail, that's the bulk of their needs sorted
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> We are Linux users.. completely dierent demographic
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> Well except Ubuntu users
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> Guess you can clump you guys with winduhs
[00:34] <gordonjcp> Ubuntu is the only distro for *serious* Linux userrs
[00:34] <Beldar> and play a little public enemy don't forget
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> SO yeah, guess you are right.
[00:34] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: what are you trying to compile?
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> Haha
[00:34] <ObrienDave> my new years resolution: no feeding trolls
[00:34]  * Church is probably non serious user. hence i migrated to mint :)
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah Ubuntu is the only distro for serious linux users...
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: also only 1/3 of the world even have access to a computer. i sincerely doubt starving children in africa require gcc. Since this topic is very much off topic i'm bowing out
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> That mde my night.
[00:35] <whatisthematrix> LFS is for serious gnu/linux users :P
[00:35] <gordonjcp> whatisthematrix: noob distro
[00:35] <whatisthematrix> you know what lfs is?
[00:35] <gordonjcp> it's for people who like to pretend that watching compiler output means they're learning stuff
[00:35] <Church> no. LFS for those with overblown ego and too much free time on hands
[00:35] <bekks> whatisthematrix: It's for users who have too much time and computing power.
[00:35] <gordonjcp> whatisthematrix: nobody who is actually serious about using their computer use LFS
[00:35] <whatisthematrix> bekks: yes, i'd agree with that
[00:36] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: so, what are you trying to compile?
[00:36]  * Church started with slackware long time ago. migrated at some point to ubuntu because i wanted to work on pc not to work to make things work
[00:36] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: you can install pretty much all you need with "apt-get install build-essential" which will pull in gcc and its various deps
[00:36] <gordonjcp> Church: indeed
[00:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Debian, Gentoo, Arch, Fedora, Slackware, Etc... All Derious Distros with beter communities and documentation.. and far less spyware
[00:36] <Church> LFS is worse on that acount. way worse.
[00:36] <PublicStaticVoid> gordonjcp: I know this
[00:36] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: Debian is exactly the same as Ubuntu
[00:37] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: Gentoo and Arch are fun, but I wouldn't use them for anything serious
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> But you have a uper bloated distro and you leave out essential packages like that
[00:37] <xtacie> Help me please. Im trying to recover an encrypted home dir in 12.04.3. I have followed the tut at, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory where it sats recovering data manualy. i can open the dir but all names are encrypted still
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> its ironic to me
[00:37] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: it's not essential
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> its more essential than half the crap you include
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> No drop it
[00:37] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: actually, my Linux distro fits in about 4MB
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> You soun dumb
[00:38] <PublicStaticVoid> sound
[00:38] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: but it's pretty domain-specific, and you won't have come across it
[00:38] <bekks> gordonjcp: Actually, there is a commercial product that uses Gentoo - I never believed, until they showed me some insights. Updates are - strange :)
[00:38] <gordonjcp> bekks: o_O
[00:38] <gordonjcp> bekks: something else to add to the "won't touch with a ten foot stick"
[00:38] <bekks> gordonjcp: It's a long term archive solution, which claims to be revision safe.
[00:39] <gordonjcp> mmm
[00:39] <bekks> gordonjcp: Yeah :)
[00:39] <xtacie> Help me please. Im trying to recover an encrypted home dir in 12.04.3. I have followed the tut at, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory where it sats recovering data manualy. i can open the dir but all names are encrypted still
[00:39] <gordonjcp> bekks: until little Timmy Bolashenko from Ukraine decides to check in a patch that completely replaces some part of Gentoo
[00:39] <bekks> gordonjcp: No downgrades possible, and stuff. Restoring to a former state means: reinstall and resetup everything.
[00:39] <juan__> #ubuntu-es
[00:39] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: you could always start you're own distro. that way, your opinion get fully implemented in it
[00:39] <gordonjcp> xtacie: have you got a backup?
[00:39] <jeffrey_f> PublicStaticVoid: you can create your own distribution if you are not happy with what is out there.  The nice thing about open source is to make it your own and even create your version going forward.
[00:40] <gordonjcp> PublicStaticVoid: what do you find yourself compiling so often?
[00:40] <bennypr0fane> hellome, I'm trying to mount a network share in nautilus (Lubuntu 13.04 with Gnome 3.8 on top). I believe that is supposed to work like "connect to server", enter an URL and click "connect". This is where I stumble, because the "connect" button is greyed out, I can't click it
[00:40] <gordonjcp> xtacie: did you read the bit about recovering encrypted filenames?
[00:40] <bennypr0fane> hellome, why do you have this nick? this happens to me each and every time I'm in here...
[00:41]  * Church has finalized choices to ubuntu derived distributions on desktop for enduser tuning / wide community, and centos/rhel clones for servers as official distribs for commercial apps, more conservative non-bleeding edge approach and target distribs for many vendor hw drivers for server hardware
[00:41] <gordonjcp> Church: I must get back into centos
[00:41] <xtacie> no.. on that link i sent?
[00:41] <gordonjcp> xtacie:
[00:41] <gordonjcp> xtacie: yes
[00:41] <gordonjcp> xtacie: are you going through "Recovering your data manually"?
[00:41] <Church> all the cases when i had to deal with something else i suffered through and regretted. well, maybe with exception of slackware.
[00:42] <gordonjcp> Church: slackware was good, and I even put some money into it
[00:42] <joi> im not sure if this is the right channel to ask, but is there a software in ubuntu i can download that supports PHP?
[00:42] <gordonjcp> Slackware was the second distro I ever used, the first being something I don't remember the name of, from a company called Lasermoon
[00:42] <Church> slackware is ideal for learning.
[00:42] <gordonjcp> SLS?
[00:42] <gordonjcp> Church: not really
[00:42] <jeffrey_f> joi:explain "Supports"
[00:42] <gordonjcp> mostly you learn how to unbork your system
[00:43] <gordonjcp> Ubuntu is the best distro for learning about Linux
[00:43] <jeffrey_f> joi: What do you want to do?
[00:43] <xtacie> ya. i did all that, i can goto /home/recover/monted and it opens the home dir and can see file sizes and all but names are still encrypoted
[00:43] <gordonjcp> it's about equal with Debian
[00:43] <gordonjcp> xtacie:  sudo ecryptfs-add-passphrase --fnek
[00:43] <gordonjcp> xtacie: ^ you did that?
[00:44] <Church> gordon: in slackware with KISS you get initscripts you can edit in simple way by reading comments in them, simple enough packaging system to encouridge usage of it instead of compiling from source and many alike bits
[00:44] <xtacie> yup, saved the second pass as it said
[00:44] <gordonjcp> xtacie: don't know then, this is why I always tell people to avoid encrypted filesystems
[00:46] <pal> hey
[00:46] <roothorick> interesting issue. Atheros AR5418 based ExpressCard WiFi card, doesn't work on boot but is magically fixed if I unload and reload the ath9k driver
[00:46] <pal> how can get ipv6 ?
[00:49] <arad666> hi
[00:52] <Hydr0p0nX> does the 13.10 hwe include kernel > 3.11.0 ?
[00:52] <whatisthematrix> !info linux-image
[00:52] <rww> !info linux-image-generic saucy
[00:56] <Havenstance> so ubuntu 13.10 just updated... broke my graphics in the process
[00:57] <picca> Havenstance: that sucks
[00:57] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: perhaps you  need a new freshly created /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[00:57] <Havenstance> tell me about it, i've tried almost everything i can think of short of a reinstall
[00:58] <Havenstance> whatisthematrix its saying something about it can't detect the graphics and it wont load the config backups or anything. wont let me out of console terminal mode
[00:59] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: i'm not an expert at it, but perhaps if you post the problem you're having again along with a pastebin of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, someone might be able to help
[01:00] <Havenstance> well let me ask this, how far out is the next LTS release?
[01:00] <rww> Havenstance: April
[01:00] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: in April i reckon
[01:00] <rww> (14.04)
[01:00] <JRH2001> Hello, I am new to this
[01:01] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: but i'm running it now... as 'testing'
[01:01] <whatisthematrix> trusty/testing
[01:01] <Havenstance> k, i'll just wait for that to come out for official release, i'll put 12.04 on for now and get it setup
[01:01] <Xiaolin> Hello JRH
[01:01] <whatisthematrix> aka, development branch
[01:01] <Havenstance> hello JRH2001
[01:02] <JRH2001> I am new to Ubuntu and liking it so far, does anyone has any recommendations on what I should get in the software center
[01:02] <Havenstance> whatisthematrix i've had all kinds of trouble with 13.10 but so far the 12.04 has been very stable
[01:02] <Xiaolin> JRH, what do you like to do?
[01:02] <rww> Havenstance: ATI or nvidia?
[01:02] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: i hear you. stick with what works then :)
[01:02] <Havenstance> rww dual nvidia's a 660ti and a 650ti not in SLI
[01:03] <FireStorms> JRH2001, you might want to try f.lux or redshift
[01:03] <Havenstance> just stinks cuz I love the 13.10 version, already has quite a bit of the latest software in the repos and I don't have to add much
[01:03] <JRH2001> Xiaolin, I would like to learn more about the power of the kernal
[01:04] <JRH2001> terminal stuff... I was brainwashed with windows growing up so I never messed with system32
[01:04] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: well, you upgraded to it, correct? it's not like you tried it as a fresh install? or did  i get that wrong?
[01:04] <Havenstance> JRH2001 i'd suggest looking on the forums sir, I've learned alot this ubuntu community is pretty amazing as far as support goes
[01:04] <JRH2001> Firestors, F.lux and redshift are what
[01:04] <Havenstance> whatisthematrix it was a fresh i formatted and put 13.10 on
[01:05] <JRH2001> thanks havenstance, will do. Is that on the ubuntu website
[01:05] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: ah, okay. well, as you said, that kinda sux then
[01:05] <Havenstance> 13.10 gives odd freezes sometimes which is usually fixable by a simple reboot, but only if i wait to long to login once i login its perfect.
[01:06] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: the installer worked okay though? you had X-Window when doing the install?
[01:06] <Havenstance> JRH2001 askubuntu.com is one i've used alot, however if your looking for a basic list of commands try googling ubuntu "Yourversion" basic terminal commands
[01:06] <Havenstance> whatisthematrix yes installer worked beautifully
[01:06] <Xiaolin> JRH2001: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP6xJDWyioc ubuntu basics, for newbies transferring over from windows
[01:06] <Havenstance> just when i boot in, then like i said it updated this afternoon and went wonky
[01:06] <FireStorms> JRH2001, they automatically adjust your displays colour temperature based on your longitude and latitude. Good for fighting fatigue for extended computer use.
[01:07] <JRH2001> Xia and Haven, thanks for the input
[01:07] <JRH2001> one last question, can i configure this chat app to go to another server like MIRC
[01:07] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: roger that
[01:08] <Xiaolin> JRH2001: yes you can.
[01:08] <Havenstance> no problem man, i remember the first time i looked at ubuntu. i was about 12 or 13 i think back when they were in version 1.0 or 2.0 i can't remember
[01:08] <JRH2001> ok, Ill have to look at the manual or help page to learn
[01:08] <Havenstance> its all about how much you want to put into it man
[01:08] <JRH2001> Ladies/Gents thanks for all the words of advice, looking forward to becoming a part of the community
[01:08] <Havenstance> i refuse to touch Microsoft anything for the rest of my days
[01:09] <Havenstance> whatisthematrix where can you get the 14.xx?
[01:09] <gueg> how do i turn dowm brightness in ubuntu 13.10 UEFI NOMODSET
[01:09] <FireStorms> Anyone use cinnamon?
[01:10] <roothorick> gueg: you probably need to be in X
[01:10] <gueg> roothorick: what is X?
[01:10] <Havenstance> FireStorms i did
[01:10] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:10] <gueg> Havenstance: you use cinnamon desktop on UBUNTU?
[01:10] <roothorick> gueg: I mean actually in the GUI, not the terminals
[01:10] <FireStorms> gueg, yeah you have to add the PPA though, it's maintained by Linux Mint
[01:11] <Havenstance> gueg yeah, didn't much care for unity
[01:11] <jeffrey_f> JRH2001: Giving back is a big part of it.  Hang out in here.  If you see something you know how to resolve, jump on it and help.
[01:11] <kostkon> JRH2001, here's the place to start from http://community.ubuntu.com/
[01:11] <roothorick> Unity vs. gnome-shell vs. new KDE vs cinnamon vs etc... who's used multiple of those and which do you prefer?
[01:11] <gueg> FireStorms:  Havenstance ill give cinnamon on buntu a try
[01:11] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: i would suggest using a window manager other than the 'ubuntu desktop' selection in it though. like kde, or xfce, or one of many others
[01:11] <gueg> i like it
[01:11] <Beldar> roothorick, no polling please
[01:11] <roothorick> fair enough
[01:12] <Xiaolin> My computer has been abruptly crashing, i ran memtest and it said i passed all tests. so i assumed it was the video memory and disabled the driver, but the problem still persists.
[01:12] <gueg> roothorick: in the GUI like settings?
[01:12] <whatisthematrix> Havenstance: if you decide to install it and have any issues, you can join the room #ubuntu+1 to get help
[01:12] <kostkon> Xiaolin, did you check your logs?
[01:12] <roothorick> gueg: if you're logged into Unity/KDE/whatever try just using your hardware brightness buttons
[01:12] <roothorick> the nvidia blob supports brightness control via those IIRC
[01:13] <gueg> roothorick: they dont work when you use NOMODSET
[01:13] <roothorick> but you have to actually be in X so the actual driver is running
[01:13] <roothorick> *the entire driver
[01:13] <roothorick> gueg: why nomodeset anyway? If you're not using fglrx or the nvidia binaries you SHOULD be using kernel modesetting
[01:13] <bingo> hello. I am using LTS and i noticed it wants me to restart. what exactly is so important?
[01:13] <Xiaolin> no i have not, i wouldnt know what logs to check.
[01:14] <roothorick> bingo: probably a security-related kernel update
[01:14] <kostkon> Xiaolin, syslog, kernel.log, Xorg.0.log maybe
[01:15] <Xiaolin> kostkon: i think i just heard the problem
[01:15] <gueg> roothorick: i booted into the disk and if i dont do NOMODSET, then i cant install ubuntu
[01:15] <kostkon> Xiaolin, kern.log*
[01:15] <gueg> roothorick: i have a nvidia card as well
[01:15] <kostkon> Xiaolin, what do you mean
[01:15] <Havenstance> how does a person tell if they have installed 12.04 or 13.10?
[01:15] <Hydr0p0nX> cat /etc/lsb-release should do it
[01:15] <Havenstance> okay
[01:15] <Havenstance> ty
[01:15] <whatisthematrix> bingo: i can only guess that you updated and it updated package(s) that need a restart to finish installing and be accessed
[01:16] <Xiaolin> kostkon: nevermind the part about hearing it. you know when hard drives start to die they make a funny beep sound? i heard your message and thought that was the sound of my hard drive going bad
[01:16] <roothorick> gueg: don't worry about it for now, do the install, then set up nvidia binary drivers. The hardware brightness buttons should start working again once you have The Blob set up correctly
[01:16] <kostkon> Xiaolin, oh
[01:16] <Cpt-Oblivious> 'service ssh start' after boot, no errors. nothing.
[01:16] <Cpt-Oblivious> my ssh refuses to start at boot
[01:16] <Cpt-Oblivious> no clue why
[01:16] <Cpt-Oblivious> manually starting it after boot and all works fine.
[01:17] <gueg> roothorick: ok i dont want to mess up :P so I install UBUNTU with the NOMODSET now and set up nvidia binary drivers after right?
[01:17] <roothorick> gueg: yeah
[01:17] <gueg> thx :_) brb
[01:17] <Xiaolin> kostkon: ill have to reboot back to linux to check the logs,
[01:17] <kostkon> Xiaolin, ok
[01:18] <roothorick> how stable is 14.04 right now?
[01:19] <jmimi> hi, anybody knows how create virtual com port or have experience with?
[01:20] <whatisthematrix> roothorick: it might depend upon what you use it for. i'm not having much problem except for when it comes to using the ubuntu desktop, i guess because, i suppose it's under heavy development
[01:22] <pottersky> jmimi: does "socat" applies to what you want to do? i think i've tried it before
[01:22] <bennypr0fane> hellome, I'm trying to mount a network share in nautilus (13.04 with Gnome 3.8 on top). I believe that is supposed to work like "connect to server", enter an URL and click "connect". This is where I stumble, because the "connect" button is greyed out, I can't click it
[01:22] <FireStorms> Cinnamon desktop: http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/micha8l/Screenshotfrom2014-01-03011634_zps3d8502ee.png
[01:23] <jmimi> pottersky: i want to create virtual port and connect it to terminal, then test my program and send data (text) from termnal then catch in program
[01:23] <jmimi> pottersky: i was not lucky with socat, maybe i do not know how use it
[01:23] <whatisthematrix> roothorick: i'm sure it depends upon what you're using in it though. i wouldn't know if some of your favorite apps might have some problems. also, i turn my computer off overnight. what might happen if i tried to leave it on 24/7? dunno
[01:24] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: what type of network share?
[01:25] <wafflejock> !mount | bennypr0fane
[01:25] <jmimi> pottersky: do you think socat satisfies my scenario?
[01:25] <pottersky> jmimi: yeah i remember having some troubles too, but then it worked just fine
[01:25] <jmimi> pottersky: can you give me some hint?
[01:25] <pottersky> jmimi: pretty sure it does... i had a Chrome Packaged App that used the serial port and tested it using socat... let me see if i find the command that i used
[01:26] <SaberX01> roothorick, it's in A1 stage, so the expectation should the that of finding and fixing bugs. My local mirror gets updates pretty much every day.
[01:26] <jmimi> pottersky: thanks a lot
[01:26] <Hydr0p0nX> is saucy a "released" hwe yet?
[01:26] <Hydr0p0nX> for 12.04
[01:26] <ObrienDave> Hydr0p0nX, what?
[01:27] <talsamon> dkms install -m virtualbox -v 4.2.16 -k 3.11.0-15-generic  -->  Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.11.0-15-generics cannot be found.     UND  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.11.0-15 -->  linux-headers-3.11.0-15 ist schon die neueste Version.  ????? - do really understood - is there a link missing to the headers ???
[01:27] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, smb share
[01:28] <talsamon> sorry ist schon.... is the newest version
[01:28] <Hydr0p0nX> i'm running 12.04.3, which if i'm not mistaken, includes the raring  enablement pack. Due to an issue with the kernel provided, i want to install the saucy enablement pack. But I'd prefer to wait until it's officially released if possible
[01:28] <jtran> when i do apt-get install mysql-server , it auto creates a mysql user and assigns it a uid.  how do i control which uid to give it?
[01:29] <Xiaolin> kostkon: the problem just got weird
[01:30] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: are you using the prefix before the server address? If I remember right it should be smb://SERVER_ADDRESS
[01:30] <kostkon> Xiaolin, please explain
[01:30] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: http://askubuntu.com/questions/137011/how-to-mount-a-samba-shared-folder-ubuntu-x-ubuntu <-- this should work
[01:30] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, did not. trying now
[01:30] <Xiaolin> kostkon: i logged on to ubuntu, pressed the super key to bring up the dashboard and the pc crashed. now im having trouble just trying to log in and it crashes.
[01:31] <SaberX01> Hydr0p0nX, I don't see anything documented about for 12.04 +13.10 on  Hardware Enablement Stack Policies
[01:31] <kostkon> Xiaolin, hmm
[01:31] <pottersky> jmimi: i cant find the exact command that i used, its been 2+ months already :(
[01:31] <Xiaolin> kostkon: yeah tell me about it. i coulda swore this was a video memory issue
[01:31] <kostkon> Xiaolin, can you go into tty?
[01:32] <jmimi> pottersky: np, as you mentioned socat fits my problem, that's good enough, thank you
[01:32] <pottersky> welcome :)
[01:32] <Xiaolin> i know i could have at one point, now im not so sure. just clicking the icon to change window managers causes a crash.
[01:33] <SaberX01> Hydr0p0nX, Then again, they normally only support two levels anyway, so in the case of 12.04, that's 12.10 + 13.04, which are both documented.
[01:33] <Xiaolin> kostkon: brb, gonna go try. if it works ill log into this chat from my desktop and let ya know.
[01:33] <kostkon> Xiaolin, ok
[01:37] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, it lets me click the "connect" button once I add the smb prefix, but after that click, nothing happens
[01:38] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: does it say cannot connect? or nothing at all?
[01:38] <Xiaolin> kostkon: logged in to tty1
[01:40] <Hydr0p0nX> I just saw 12.04.4 would be released this month and it included the 13.10 enablement pack, was hoping i could download it early
[01:40] <Xiaolin> kostkon: the moment i attempted a command i got a faceful of text and it crashed too fast to read it
[01:40] <PublicStaticVoid> Whats the main gstreamer package called?
[01:40] <bennypr0fane> spearhead: "Oops, something went wrong. unknown error. mounting windows-share failed. connection timed out."
[01:40] <PublicStaticVoid> apt-cache search gstreamer gives so many results
[01:40] <SaberX01>  Hydr0p0nX where did you see that 13.10 would be included?
[01:41] <PublicStaticVoid> I also need a dependency called xlib which I cant find a package for
[01:41] <Hydr0p0nX> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#A12.04.3_.2B-_13.04_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures
[01:41] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, generally just installing the restricted-extras loads all the gstreamer you need.
[01:42] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: are you using the ip address or the hostname of the server?
[01:42] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: Okay thansk
[01:42] <Hydr0p0nX> unless i was misreading it ?
[01:43] <SaberX01> Hydr0p0nX, that doesn't say 12.04 to 13.10 supported it says: Only the -generic x86 kernel flavor from 13.04 will be supported in the Raring HWE stack in Precise.
[01:44] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: You heard of xlib?
[01:44] <Beldar> nope
[01:44] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: i can only guess. do you have a full filename?
[01:44] <Xiaolin> kostkon: im running the BIOS HDD self diagnostic test now. im hoping its the hard drive.
[01:45] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: you can try installing --> libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 & libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev
[01:45] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: maybe that's it. don't know
[01:45] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, hostname, like so: smb://ben.cifs.hidrive.strato.com/root I don't know the IP address
[01:45] <PublicStaticVoid> whatisthematrix: No..a configure told me I needed it.. Ie it is a dependency
[01:45] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, What are you reading that says you have to have it?
[01:45] <Hydr0p0nX> SaberX01, I was looking at the graph under the 12.04.x upgrade and support policy
[01:45] <Hydr0p0nX> shows 12.04.4 + 13.10 HWE
[01:45] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: what are you trying to compile? and perhaps we should go to the #ubuntu-offtopic room
[01:46] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: the output of a configure script
[01:46] <PublicStaticVoid> You know.. the one you run before you buid something...
[01:46] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, Are you sure you need to be configuring?
[01:46] <Hydr0p0nX> but, i'm not in the loop on builds so I could be entirely off base here :)
[01:46] <PublicStaticVoid> I have been running it over and over.. installing the dependencies it needs... but this one I cannot find.
[01:46] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: Yes I am sure lmao
[01:47] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: what is it you're configuring?
[01:47] <PublicStaticVoid> Its the script that checks to make sure your system is configured to build the package
[01:47] <trism> PublicStaticVoid: Omar Hijab
[01:47] <PublicStaticVoid> It is in the readme lmao
[01:47] <trism> PublicStaticVoid: oops sorry wrong paste
[01:47] <trism> PublicStaticVoid: libx11-dev
[01:47] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, many start to download and compile what is already available in the ubuntu repos is why I ask.
[01:47] <PublicStaticVoid> trism: Thansk
[01:47] <PublicStaticVoid> Thanks
[01:49] <SaberX01> Hydr0p0nX, yes, I think it's missleading, graph shows 04.4 to 13 but texts says 13.04 .. so I guess when the pot release is out you'll know for sure :-)
[01:49] <PublicStaticVoid> trism: says I already have that, but I just installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[01:49] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: I am assuming based on the .com in the host name that you don't have direct access to the server. is that correct?
[01:49] <PublicStaticVoid> so maybe it installed it, I will run the script again
[01:49] <myndzi> what's the simplest way to configure a batch of ipv6 addresses?
[01:49] <myndzi> using the ip -6 command is extremely slow
[01:49] <oaulakh> how to install all backtrack tools on ubuntu
[01:49] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: Yeah well they do not keep those repositories up to date at all
[01:50] <PublicStaticVoid> Like for instance I am installing the EFL for Enlightenment 18
[01:50] <PublicStaticVoid> And there is no ppa or anything for it
[01:50] <PublicStaticVoid> So I have to manually take care of all these dependencies
[01:50] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, Not up to date that is a ridiculous statement.
[01:51] <PublicStaticVoid> It is a well known fact
[01:51] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: ahh, i compiled/configured, and hacked my system a little, to do that just a couple of days ago. it's really really new
[01:51] <PublicStaticVoid> Its the nuber one complaint about ubuntu
[01:51] <trism> PublicStaticVoid: probably got it as a dep of libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev from before, now that I think about it
[01:51] <Beldar> lol, well now you go where you belong.
[01:51] <PublicStaticVoid> The number one reason other distros smash on Ubuntu so hard
[01:52] <PublicStaticVoid> trism: No I still get this: configure: error: Software Xlib dependencies not found
[01:52] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: ?
[01:52] <Beldar> mmm broad generalizations not supported with any evidence my favorite.
[01:53] <PublicStaticVoid> Was just correcting you..When you claimed my statement about Ubuntus dependencies were incorrect. They were not.
[01:53] <oaulakh> how to install all backtrack tools on ubuntu
[01:53] <Beldar> oaulakh, backtrack is eol, and not supported here.
[01:53] <oaulakh> then where should i go?
[01:53] <Xiaolin> oaulakh: i dont think anyone wants to help you hack your neighbors wifi
[01:54] <oaulakh> hahahhaha
[01:54] <oaulakh> i know
[01:54] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: Arch, Slackware, Fedora and Gento all have respective packages for EFL 1.8.. Latest ALSA, I can anme over 100 more packages
[01:54] <oaulakh> but i'm not interested in hacking someone in my neighborhood
[01:54] <PublicStaticVoid> It is not a generalization.
[01:54] <spearhead> oaulakh: why not dual-boot ubuntu and backtrack?
[01:54] <Xiaolin> oaulakh: give me a moment, ill see what i can find for ya
[01:55] <oaulakh> i want to start practice on my own acess points
[01:55] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, if by "direct access" you mean command line access, no, I don't have it. It's a commercial cloud storage provider: https://www.free-hidrive.com/
[01:55] <PublicStaticVoid> all of the tools you can find in backtrack can be downloaded and installed on any linux system
[01:55] <oaulakh> :)
[01:55] <Beldar> no backtrack support here please
[01:55] <PublicStaticVoid> trism: Any other ideas what packages might have this?
[01:55] <oaulakh> i already have dual boot with ubuntu and window 8
[01:55] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: Are you an Op?
[01:55] <oaulakh> so i dont want triple boot
[01:56] <PublicStaticVoid> oaulakh: You can boot more than 2 OS's..  there is no reason to have a seperate Linux install for Backtrack.. just install all the Network tools on your current installation
[01:56] <PublicStaticVoid> Most are even in the Ubuntu repos
[01:56] <PublicStaticVoid> the ones that are not can be downloaded and built easily
[01:56] <Xiaolin> oaulakh: from what i just read it woul;d be best to use something like VMWare and install it within a virtual OS
[01:56] <RonR> hello all,  Latest update hosed my system.  Will not boot into any GUI
[01:56] <oaulakh> how?
[01:57] <PublicStaticVoid> What?
[01:57] <RonR> I am in as root, Was on Ubuntu 13.04
[01:57] <oaulakh> i know bro how to install backtrack in Vmware
[01:57] <PublicStaticVoid> No you dont need to run a VM for backtrack
[01:57] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: try running ping ben.cifs.hidrive.strato.com to make sure your computer can find the server
[01:57] <Xiaolin> i didnt say need, i said best.
[01:57] <PublicStaticVoid> Just install the software packages that backtrack has!
[01:57] <PublicStaticVoid> It is that simple
[01:57] <oaulakh> but can you guys find a way to install all tools in ubuntu instead of installing another OS
[01:58] <oaulakh> or in vmware
[01:58] <Xiaolin> oaulakh: yes it can be done, ill link a guide for you
[01:58] <PublicStaticVoid> oaulakh: I told you 3 times
[01:58] <PublicStaticVoid> Get the list of packages from backtrack website...
[01:58] <oaulakh> okkk
[01:59] <oaulakh> then do i have to install one by one?
[01:59] <PublicStaticVoid> Install them with apt-get, might have to add a few repositories and manually build a few of them.
[01:59] <spearhead> oaulaka: you should be able to find most of them in the repositories in ubuntu and those that aren't there just google them followed by ubuntu and it will show you how...
[01:59] <vince__> oaulakh, only install what you need imo
[01:59] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, it says "unknown host"
[01:59] <PublicStaticVoid> I need Software Xlin Dependencies
[01:59] <PublicStaticVoid> wtf package has that?
[01:59] <oaulakh> okkk
[01:59] <Xiaolin> oaulakh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srtXC6zoinA
[02:00] <Sevet> i have just upgraded my linux kernel through aptitude and rebooted, and am now stuck at the grub prompt unable to get into linux. system is xfs on lvm on mdadm. i can ls (VolGroup00-LogVol00)/ fine, but booting into linux causes errors that it cannot find root and then kernel panics. any suggestions on how to fix that?
[02:00] <vince__> Sevet, did you remove old kernel?
[02:00] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: are you trying to connect to the shared drive on the same computer as this chat is running?
[02:00] <Beldar> Sevet, Can you get in with an earlier kernel?
[02:01] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: i might be willing to help you, but in the #ubuntu-offtopic room
[02:01] <vince__> spearhead, remember he may not be able to access the remote address from an internal computer
[02:01] <oaulakh> can we do it in ubuntu
[02:01] <Sevet> vince__: i can see multiple kernels in /boot/ ... all fail to boot using the linux /boot/vmlinux... and initrd /boot/initrd... commands (no menu appears)
[02:01] <Xiaolin> oaulakh: yes you can. do you know how to build packages from source?
[02:01] <spearhead> vince__: I just pinged the server he provided and it went through on my end
[02:01] <RonR> did you just install the latest update?
[02:01] <oaulakh> yeah i know
[02:02] <spearhead> and my router is fairly locked down
[02:02] <Xiaolin> oaulakh: well thats what you will hav e to do for a lot of them.
[02:02] <kostkon> Xiaolin, i was afk. you could also try doing a fsck on that disk
[02:03] <RonR> in ubuntu 13.04 where is the xorg conf file?
[02:03] <PublicStaticVoid> whatisthematrix: It is on topic
[02:03] <oaulakh> oh god don't tell me bro that i have to build it all from scratch
[02:03] <RonR> or similar
[02:03] <PublicStaticVoid> But helping this guy with backtrack.. seems very ubuntu
[02:03] <kostkon> Xiaolin, if you still boot into your system and go into tty or at least in safe mode
[02:03] <kostkon> can*
[02:03] <PublicStaticVoid> whatisthematrix: Do you know the package name?
[02:03] <Beldar> RonR, It's not there unless made or generated.
[02:04] <Xiaolin> oaulakh: you can try adding the repo's. but i know that will just end in frustration for you. so its best to stick to what is known to work. and that means building from source.
[02:04] <vince__> Sevet, it may help to know which kernel version you updated to, pm me if you wish
[02:04] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: i already know that at some point, an op would tell us to take it to offtopic
[02:04] <oaulakh> okkkk
[02:04] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, yes, that's right
[02:04] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: getting enlightenment 0.18.1 configured and installed takes a lot, i mean, A LOT
[02:04] <oaulakh> have you link for all packages for backtrack
 last update changed the graphics driver, and now will not boot, need to undo
[02:04] <Xiaolin> kostkon: i made it into tty1. but i crashed seconds later
[02:05] <Sevet> vince__: i can tell you that in a few minutes, i'm just booting the ubuntu cd to see if the rescue option works
[02:05] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: it has a lot of requirements that you probably don't have on your system yet... but
[02:05] <patrikf> I'd like to unmount and detach a LUKS-encrypted from a script. how do I do this? I tried udisks --unmount and udisks --detach, but the latter fails because udisks does not close the LUKS device.
[02:05] <spearhead> oaulakh: you should be able to use apt-get to install the vast majority of the packages. but like Xiaolin said the best option would be to use vmware to make a virtual machine that runs backtrack or to compile them specifically for your machine.
[02:05] <vince__> Sevet, sometimes booting with a different boot option thrown to the linux kernel will allow booting, i think its an aspci problem
[02:05] <Beldar> RonR, You can tab complete nicks here, where you using a proprietary driver?
[02:05] <whatisthematrix> PublicStaticVoid: try installing this -->  libx11-xcb1 libx11-xcb-dev
[02:05] <oaulakh> okkkk thanks bro
[02:06] <oaulakh> i will let you know
[02:06] <oaulakh> and thats sure i will find a way to install it in ubuntu
[02:06] <RonR> Beldar, was on Nvida but also runs on generic
[02:06] <oaulakh> and will publish tutorial when i'm done
[02:06] <oaulakh> thanks for help
[02:06] <Sevet> vince__: vmlinux-3.8.0-35-generic latest, also have -34 (guess that is the one i was running earlier) and also have -29 and -33 installed
[02:07] <Beldar> RonR, You can nomodeset boot or use failsafe x in recovery to get to the desktop probably top fix this.
[02:07] <gmachine_24> greetings. will someone please look at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6682121/ and tell me how I've messed up this simple cron job? thanks.
[02:07] <RonR> Beldar, started with the issue of no prompt after sleep, so updated to Nvida driver, then had to modify the conf file to re-init  I am in Root mode now
[02:08] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, I have a Windows computer in the same home network that can connect to it
[02:08] <Beldar> RonR, The nividia driver from them will not follow kernel upgrades, so you were using their driver right?
[02:09] <Xiaolin> kostkon: currently waiting on the self diagnostic tools to finish up. i have no problems using windows, other than loading anything that requires any amount of memory (youtube or a game) i crash. ubuntu has started crashing the moment i do anythning at the login screen
[02:09] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: try to connect using smb://85.214.3.69
[02:09] <RonR> Beldar, I beleive I was, but even on previous kernal, still no good
[02:09] <kostkon> Xiaolin, hmmm better run a memtest then, could be faulty ram
[02:09] <RonR> Beldar, update did also include an update to driver, saw it download
[02:10] <JDSANDERSON> dose anyone know about mate desktop on ubuntu?
[02:10] <Beldar> RonR, I'm not a nvidia user and have really no info to help other than doing  low graphic boot to the regular desktop to fix this.
[02:10] <Xiaolin> kostkon: that was the first thing i did before suspecting the gfx card
[02:10] <kostkon> Xiaolin, oh yeah youve said that already
[02:10] <vince__> Sevet, does the following command show any results? ls -l /boot/initrd.img*
[02:10] <RonR> Beldar, can't get into low graphic boot, does not work.  Only TTY.  Can I reconfigure from there?
[02:10] <mackeral> hi. Usually run slackware, trying ubuntu-based (deb based) 'AtristX'. Trying to install Nvidia driver. Need to get into a multi-user mode without graphical garbage running. Read alot about 'upstart', but not enough. Is there a simple solution to get disable that dratted X?
[02:11] <Beldar> RonR, You can from the cli yes, however you need help from a more familiar user in this area.
[02:11] <Sevet> vince__: in grub? yes... matching files for each vmlinuz
[02:12] <RonR> Beldar, I understand Thanks for your help so far.
[02:12] <vince__> Sevet, ok let me read further
[02:12] <Sevet> vince__: thanks for your help...
[02:12] <Sevet> rescue mode from cdrom fixed it :>
[02:12] <Sevet> would be nice to know what borked it, but it's working now at least
[02:13] <Mjmac85> Hello! Is there a specific channel to ask for some advice?
[02:13] <Xiaolin> kostkon: if it were the video card, i dont ubuntu would have started crashing on boot. not considering windows loads fine and lets me browse and even watch short videos. ubuntu however is installed 1st in the physical load order. so im starting to think my first few sectors have went bad.
[02:14] <gmachine_24> greetings. will someone please look at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6682121/ and tell me how I've messed up this simple cron job? thanks.
[02:14] <spearhead> Mjmac85: if it is related to ubuntu ask here
[02:14] <Beldar> Mjmac85, advice is generally a subjective area, there are 1000's of channels.
[02:15] <JDSANDERSON> mackeral Ubuntu is now so graphic used to you could just hit ctl+alt+bkspc and it would kill x but now you have to install some sort of terminal as a scheem in the greeter like adding flux box or old gnome
[02:15] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, no, this isn't working either. I think I'm gonna give up for today, it's 3a.m. here... Maybe I'll submit a support ticket to those losers
[02:15] <Mjmac85> Thanks!  I'm looking to setup a NAS for my house.  I have an old computer with 1gb of ram.  I did a little research and I've seen some suggestions to use xubuntu.  What flavor of Ubuntu would be best?
[02:15] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, thanks for the help! have a good one!
[02:15] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: ok, if you want to try one more thing you can try a command line option
[02:15] <vince__> Sevet, does the following command return any output? cat /etc/grub.d/00_header | more
[02:15] <Beldar> !best | Mjmac85 are you getting the point
[02:16] <bennypr0fane> spearhead, alright
[02:16] <RonR> MjMac85, I would say yes to Xubuntu, as the XFCE interface requires far less RAM, and is Gnome app compatible from what I have seen
[02:17] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: in terminal run the command smbclient //server/share -U user
[02:17] <Mjmac85> Thanks!  Was concerned with that little amount of ram it would just be clunky
[02:17] <mackeral> Mjmac85: I know this isn't the answer, but,  you might want to consider a command-line based option... ubuntu has alot of stuff that, for just NAS, would seem unneeded. (Note: i have not setup a NAS server, but if it is anything like ftp, http, etc, well then I have some xperience)
[02:17] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: where server is the server name, share is the name of the share you want to connect to and user is your username
[02:18] <Xiaolin> Mjmac85: look into puppy linux
[02:18] <spearhead> bennypr0fane: it should ask you for a password if it connects
[02:18] <Mjmac85> Xiaolin:  Will do thanks!
[02:19] <Mjmac85> And off to go try this out
[02:19] <RonR> Anyone know how to recofigure the video driver from tty ?
[02:19] <mackeral> gui-based NAS. OK, well thanks for whatever... L8
[02:19] <vince__> bennypr0fane,  smb works best when using IP addresses especially if you working linux --> windows connections
[02:26] <gueg> where do i getthe nvidia binary for brightness ocontrol roothorick
[02:33] <vince__> bye
[02:35] <OerHeks> What exact date is support ending of ubuntu 13.04 ?
[02:36] <Beldar> OerHeks, to hard to find on the web?
[02:36] <OerHeks> 27th this month?
[02:38] <Beldar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:39] <SaberX01> OerHeks, Here's a list, does not specify an exact date in the month: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:39] <isosceles> [Ubuntu 13.10] sometimes some but not all launcher icons are in shadow, but still functional (when this happened in 12.04 icons were not functional). also, sometimes application windows go gray and the program temporarily freezes (e.g. Firefox, Files, System Settings, etc.), despite a perfectly capable System 76 Lemu4. screenshot: http://imgur.com/JUnJEHn
[02:40] <cummseng> apititude is in a old messed up state (it thinks some packages are still installed, some missing), how can i reset apititude and force a rescan of installed packages?
[02:40] <tj_> is there a hybrid iso of ubuntu that i can simply dd to a usb drive?
[02:40] <rww> tj_: yes, the normal Ubuntu desktop ISO
[02:40] <tj_> i tried but it doesnt boot
[02:40] <tj_> other distros do
[02:41] <rww> I did it literally yesterday.
[02:41] <spearhead> OerHeks: if you click on the January 2014 link it says through January so I would say the end of the month but why does it matter?
[02:41] <tj_> the lts release? or does it have to be the new one?
[02:41] <Beldar> tj_, You tried the per session boot menu?
[02:41] <rww> tj_: lts release == 12.04?
[02:41] <tj_> Beldar, what is the per session boot menu?
[02:42] <tj_> rww, yes 12.04
[02:42] <Beldar> tj_, A boot menu outside the bios mine is a f12 prompt at powering on yours maybe that or another.
[02:42] <tj_> i tried it twice but my computer says no boot device
[02:43] <OerHeks> spearhead, i wanted to know the exact date, as i don't want to mess up my system again with upgrade to 13.10, so i want to go back to 12.04/other distro until 14.04 comes out
[02:43] <tj_> Beldar, I have no idea what your talking about
[02:43] <Beldar> tj_, shame, you should.
[02:43] <tj_> i have my boot order set to boot the usb device if thats what you mean
[02:43] <MAbeeTT> Hi, i want to do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 in a desktop computer. I would like to download all the content first.
[02:43] <tj_> other distros boot fine
[02:43] <tj_> only ubuntu doesnt
[02:44] <MAbeeTT> I mean all the packages first, since I dont have a decent ISP.
[02:44] <spearhead> OerHeks: "Maintenance updates will be provided for Ubuntu 13.04 for 9 months,
[02:44] <spearhead> through January 2014."
[02:44] <whatisthematrix> cummseng: perhaps removing the /root/.aptitude dir?
[02:45] <MAbeeTT> I see in the man page of do-release-upgrade it has no option for download only, is there some official way for just download in a release upgrade ?
[02:45] <RonR> Beldar, update, tried low graphics mode, so messed up, it even fails and loops back to menu.
[02:45] <Beldar> MAbeeTT, not really possible with that sort of upgrade, that is eol and needs specific repos called.
[02:45] <impossible> why does it give me an error when i try to print
[02:45] <auberginer> hm
[02:45] <Hydr0p0nX> OerHeks, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.4 says 1/24 for 12.04.4, but, that is an expected date and subject to change
[02:46] <impossible> should i update
[02:46] <OerHeks> Hydr0p0nX, thnx
[02:46] <Beldar> !details | impossible
[02:47] <tj_> ok where can I get a checksum for the ubuntu iso so i can be sure my file is not corrupted?
[02:47] <impossible> ok brb going to update
[02:48] <dilema> Just installed chrome in Ubunut
[02:48] <Hydr0p0nX> tj_, releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ has md5 sums for saucy
[02:48] <dilema> why is it blue
[02:48] <dilema> it doesnt follow the same window colors
[02:48] <somsip> tj_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[02:48] <Beldar> dilema, a whole sorting of themes, find one you like.
[02:48] <spearhead> tj_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ for 12.04
[02:49] <dilema> Beldar, uh...
[02:49] <dilema> no
[02:49] <dilema> Chromes window colors do not match....whats that gotta do with themes
[02:49] <Beldar> dilema, hehe hyes
[02:50] <aernan> hi all
[02:50] <whatisthematrix> cummseng: you  get my message? perhaps removing the  .aptitude dir in /root ?
[02:50] <dilema> Beldar, can you please expound on your answer
[02:50] <dilema> what themes
[02:50] <cummseng> whatisthematrix, only a single file named config is in there, and it's and empty file
[02:51] <whatisthematrix> cummseng: oh, roger. don't know what to think then
[02:52] <cummseng> whatisthematrix, http://askubuntu.com/questions/73868/aptitude-state-is-corrupt-how-do-i-fix-it
[02:52] <aernan> does anyone know about the eeepc super hybrid engine?
[02:52] <cummseng> whatisthematrix, took me a while to find that, searching for the wrong keywords :D
[02:54] <whatisthematrix> cummseng: i hear you :)
[02:54] <Beldar> aernan, You might give some context for help, state the issues.
[02:54] <whatisthematrix> cummseng: have you tried the suggestion? did it work?
[02:55] <aernan> I have an eeepc and on stumbling I found out I could get longer battery life
[02:55] <aernan> I have an intel atom
[02:55] <aernan> there is supposed to be some ability to adjust the cpu speed
[02:55] <somsip> aernan: try the eeepc forums. Much more specialist advice there
[02:56] <aernan> somsip. ok thanks
[02:58] <DarkAceLaptop> can I change how large the scrollbar is?
[03:02] <lustic> hey , I've download a game,  I'm not sure how to run/start/install it,   the file  is called " AmnesiaAMFP-1.0.0.sh"   i thought i just had to run  sh AmnesiaAMFP-1.0.0.sh  in the terminal to start .sh files ?
[03:03] <somsip> lustic: sh ./Amnesia...sh  (and chmod +x Amnes* first)
[03:04] <spearhead> lustic: you just have to run ./Amnesia...sh but you do have to make is executible first with either chmod +x Amnesia...sh or chmod 755 Amnesia...sh
[03:05] <lustic> k i'll try, thanks !
[03:05] <spearhead> and make sure you are in the same directory as the Amnesia...sh file
[03:05] <mackeral> OK, so I finally found the proper answer on google, 6 hours later, to the question of getting a non-graphical multi-user boot..
[03:06] <Hydr0p0nX> missed that
[03:06] <impossible> got the printer working
[03:06] <impossible> problem was that it needed the update and restart
[03:07] <mackeral> simply replace all the stuff on the grub 'kernel' line after the 'ro' to read 'text'
[03:07] <PublicStaticVoid> This build is complaining about Software Xlib Dependencies not found.
[03:07] <mackeral> It is really simple and I should have known, but after hours of fruitless manpage reading, i asked here... srry here's the answer
[03:07] <impossible> do i have to manually install Nvidia drivers?
[03:07] <PublicStaticVoid> Any idea of the the package I need?
[03:08] <lustic> chmod worked fine ,  but now it says ./AmnesiaAMFP.sh: 15: export: START/AmnesiaAMFP.sh: bad variable name
[03:08] <lustic> when i try to start
[03:08] <somsip> PublicStaticVoid: usually build instructions are in the README of source, or on the project homepage
[03:08] <mackeral> oh for the record, my nvidia driver install failed, but I got the binary from nvidia.com
[03:08] <mackeral> night
[03:08] <PublicStaticVoid> somsip: I am aware..
[03:08] <PublicStaticVoid> I am following the README
[03:08] <damiank> hi
[03:09] <PublicStaticVoid> It doesnt tell you Ubuntu package names for dependencies..
[03:09] <somsip> !find xlib | PublicStaticVoid
[03:09] <PublicStaticVoid> I would think it wa the libx11-dev package, but that is not it
[03:09] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah I loked already
[03:09] <PublicStaticVoid> That is why I am asking here
[03:10] <PublicStaticVoid> I am pretty familliar with apt-cache search..
[03:10] <PublicStaticVoid> I also googled for 45 mins
[03:11] <trism> PublicStaticVoid: pastebin the last 10-15 lines of the output, because libx11-dev should be that dep
[03:11] <damiank> exit
[03:11] <somsip> damiank: /quit
[03:11] <PublicStaticVoid> trism: It's just it checking other packages until tat line
[03:12] <PublicStaticVoid> Is there maybe na xorg package?
[03:12] <Xiaolin> kostkon: the hdd self test passed, running bios memory test now.
[03:12] <lustic> chmod +x AmnesiaAMFP.sh  worked fine,   but now when i run ./AmnesiaAMFP.sh it says   lustic@lustic-HP-Pavilion-g6:~/Documents/Games START$ ./AmnesiaAMFP.sh
[03:12] <lustic> ./AmnesiaAMFP.sh: 15: export: START/AmnesiaAMFP.sh: bad variable name
[03:12] <trism> PublicStaticVoid: there is xorg-dev which would get you a bunch of things, I suppose you could try that
[03:13] <impossible> I am tryingto install Nvidia drivers on UBUNTU 13.10 but ubuntu doesnt tell me about additional drivers. Should Iadd the repository??
[03:13] <trism> PublicStaticVoid: but it would still help to see more output
[03:14] <PublicStaticVoid> Not really, but here you go
[03:14] <PublicStaticVoid> http://pastey.org/view/0b6463d1
[03:14] <PublicStaticVoid> Because the last things it checked before that were all answered yes
[03:14] <spearhead> lustic: try bash Amnesia...sh
[03:14] <Xiaolin> i attempted to install video drivers once. found out that HP had modified the video card and therefore required custom drivers. of course HP had pulled support and never developed drivers for linux or anything beyond winxp
[03:15] <PublicStaticVoid> I didn't think getting e18 setup would be this hard
[03:15] <somsip> spearhead: if it's a sh, maybe it should be 'sh ./Amnesia*'
[03:15] <lustic> with bash it did something different...this
[03:15] <PublicStaticVoid> Not even sure why I need this EFL, and why they didnt build it in.
[03:15] <Beldar> impossible, The drivers may have been installed automatically, is it looking normal in resolution and use?
[03:16] <lustic> lustic@lustic-HP-Pavilion-g6:~/Documents/Games START$ bash AmnesiaAMFP.sh
[03:16] <lustic> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[03:16] <lustic> Uncompressing Mojo Setup..............
[03:16] <lustic> Collecting info for this system...
[03:16] <lustic> Operating system: linux
[03:16] <lustic> CPU Arch: x86_64
[03:16] <lustic> trying mojosetup in bin/linux/x86_64
[03:16] <lustic> ./startmojo.sh: 44: export: START/AmnesiaAMFP.sh: bad variable name
[03:16] <PublicStaticVoid> Whoa
[03:16] <PublicStaticVoid> Dude use a fucking pastebin site
[03:16] <somsip> !language | PublicStaticVoid
[03:16] <Beldar> lustic, use a pastebin
[03:16] <PublicStaticVoid> !flood
[03:16] <impossible> Beldar, resolution seems good, like normal. I was asking because my brightness buttons arent working
[03:16] <lustic> yaya no need to freak sorry
[03:17] <Beldar> impossible, How about the brightness gui?
[03:19] <spearhead> lustic: try it with sh instead of bash
[03:19] <PublicStaticVoid> Ya, well there is a reason.. you are not the only one using this channel fo help.
[03:19] <somsip> lustic: http://www.frictionalgames.com/forum/thread-22830.html
[03:19] <impossible> Beldar, I have never heard of the brightness gui
[03:19] <Beldar> impossible, brightness and lock in the menu
[03:19] <lustic> that link doesnt load,
[03:19] <lustic> not found,
[03:19] <somsip> lustic: works fine when I click on it, summary "If I type "sudo bash ./AmnesiaAMFP-1.0.0.sh" the install script runs correctly." http://is.gd/Twh0CT
[03:19] <lustic> hmm maybe cause i shortened the file name?
[03:19] <lustic> i changed it to AmnesiaAMFP.sh
[03:20] <somsip> lustic: unlikely
[03:20] <spearhead> lustic: it might need root access try with sudo bash Amnesia...sh
[03:20] <aernan> how do I force a package to install?
[03:21] <SaberX01> aernan, do you need to reinstall it, or are there deps not met what?
[03:22] <DarkAceXtreme> hey, I can start synaptic without root, but if I try it with root, it gives me this error:
[03:22] <DarkAceXtreme> No protocol specified
[03:22] <DarkAceXtreme> ** (synaptic:11331): WARNING **: Could not open X display
[03:22] <DarkAceXtreme> No protocol specified
[03:22] <DarkAceXtreme> (synaptic:11331): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[03:22] <FloodBot1> DarkAceXtreme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:23] <aernan> I'm trying to get acpi stuff wedged in. I manually installed a package using dpkg. Can I remove that with apt?
[03:24] <Xiaolin> kostkon: so far no problems detected with the hdd or ram.
[03:24] <SaberX01> aernan, remove it with dpkg then
[03:24] <Beldar> DarkAceXtreme, any thing pertinent leading to this like removing the password...etc
[03:24] <lustic> here are the commands I've tried,  with a listing of the file name http://pastebin.com/BbkR9Gry
[03:24] <Beldar> or making a root password
[03:25] <Vedrit> Can anyone help me how to find out what filesystem is used for a mount point? I'm trying to resolve an error in my Apache2/Mono stack, and was told to look into it
[03:25] <DarkAceXtreme> "synaptic" will work, but "sudo synaptic" will give me that error
[03:25] <aernan> saberx01. thanks. I had no idea apt could not remove dpkg installed packages
[03:25] <aernan> what a pain
[03:25] <somsip> lustic: try using what I posted from that link I gave "If I type "sudo  bash ./AmnesiaAMFP-1.0.0.sh" the install script runs correctly."
[03:26] <aernan> then I did the apt-get -f install and it sorted itself
[03:26] <somsip> lustic: using your filename obviously, but include the ./
[03:26] <lustic> sorry, the link just wouldn't load always "not found"  i'll try
[03:26] <whatisthematrix> Vedrit: try... sudo mount ...that will just give and informational display
[03:26] <Beldar> DarkAceXtreme, You would use gksudo, why are you using the cli to open it?
[03:27] <spearhead> lustic: is your system 32 bit or 64 bit?
[03:27] <lustic> 64
[03:27] <DarkAceXtreme> cli is supposed to work
[03:27] <DarkAceXtreme> gksudo gives the same error
[03:27] <lustic> http://pastebin.com/accFk8dy
[03:28] <Beldar> DarkAceXtreme, sure but your command is incorrect with sudo, I have to wonder how many gui app you haver opened with sudo rather than gksudo, this will mess up your setup
[03:29] <impossible> Beldar, http://pastebin.com/kWgpnxUu did he change his boot option to get his brightness working?
[03:29] <SaberX01> aernan, dpkg is the Debian package manager, apt-get is also a package management system, not all things cross over, then throw in Synaptic and apptitude and the picture is clear as mud :-)
[03:29] <DarkAceXtreme> no, I don't think that's the case :P
[03:29] <DarkAceXtreme> sudo does not force to the cli
[03:30] <Vedrit> whatisthematrix: can't. Unknown filesystem type 'none'
[03:30] <Beldar> impossible, Not really an area I'm up on is all.
[03:31] <whatisthematrix> Vedrit: you mean the command 'sudo mount' showed the filesystem on the mountpoint in question as 'unknown'?
[03:31] <DarkAceXtreme> oh wow
[03:32] <DarkAceXtreme> you're right, Beldar, with the new version, gksudo and sudo do not work
[03:32] <Vedrit> whatisthematrix: I tried sudo mount /tmp since it's the directory that my web stack is trying to access, or something
[03:32] <spearhead> lustic: well, you have tried everything that i can think of. it might be a 32bit game that doesn't want to compile on a 64 bit system. but I don't know
[03:33] <lustic> strange...that thread wont load for me,  even when i find it on google,
[03:33] <Vedrit> because just sudo mount gives me a whole bunch of information I do not understand at all
[03:33] <lustic> ouch,  well.... maybe i can just get it for win and run it on wine
[03:33] <SaberX01> impossible, His main change was adding acpi_backlight=vendor  to boot options, but there's no guarantee hat solves the issue.
[03:34] <SaberX01> *that
[03:34] <Xiaolin> broadcast message unknown, what could an error like that mean? i keep seeing it when my system crashes
[03:34] <somsip> lustic: you may be better off seeking support in the AMFP forums
[03:35] <impossible> SaberX01, alright thx
[03:35] <lustic> unfortunately that thread on the forums wont load nomatter what ! lol
[03:35] <Vedrit> whatisthematrix: if the directory in question isn't listed, what does that mean?
[03:36] <somsip> lustic: go to where you downloaded it from. Look for forums or other suport from there maybe
[03:36] <SaberX01> impossible, You may find this useful, but read the links also: http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/how-to-control-brightness
[03:36] <whatisthematrix> Vedrit: is /tmp it's own separate partition?
[03:36] <Vedrit> whatisthematrix: shouldn't be
[03:37] <somsip> lustic: also would recommend downloading it again and checksumming. also this: http://www.frictionalgames.com/forum/forum-53.html And that's me done
[03:37] <lustic> ohh,  chromium wouldnt load it,    but firefox will, weird
[03:38] <SaberX01> Loads fine here.
[03:38] <whatisthematrix> Vedrit: then i don't think /tmp can be mounted all by itself.. have you taken a look a 'sudo mount' ? does /tmp show as being part of your filesystem?
[03:40] <Vedrit> whatisthematrix: that's kind what I was asking when I asked : if the directory in question isn't listed, what does that mean?
[03:40] <whatisthematrix> Vedrit: have you taken a look a 'sudo mount' ? does /tmp show as being part of your filesystem? does it show up  as being mounted?
[03:41] <SaberX01> There's no diff between sudo mount and normal user mount .. it's when you add options that sudo is then required.
[03:41] <Vedrit> whatisthematrix: yes I looked at sudo mount, and no /tmp isn't listed. Part of the filesystem, mounted or otherwise. It's not there at all.
[03:41] <SaberX01> The command mount simply lists all inuse mount points.
[03:41] <whatisthematrix> Vedrit: well, that doesn't sound good
[03:42] <whatisthematrix> Vedrit: can you do? --> cd /tmp
[03:42] <Vedrit> yes
[03:43] <whatisthematrix> Vedrit: okay, then you have a /tmp directory, but it's not a mount point, if i have that correct
[03:43] <Vedrit> I wouldn't know if you were wrong
[03:43] <spearhead> then it should be getting mounted with /
[03:43] <Xiaolin> sounds correct
[03:44] <Xiaolin> assuming the system in question is responding to logic
[03:44] <SaberX01> that is the default, it's a directory under /root ... thus /tmp  / is the mount point.
[03:44] <Vedrit> um... so in sudo mount, what would it look like?
[03:45] <SaberX01> You dont need to mount it, as the root file system is already  mounted, why you trying to mount /tmp ?
[03:45] <spearhead> you wouldn't see /tmp in sudo mount. it gets mounted when the / mount point is mounted
[03:45] <Vedrit> I have no idea. That's what the one and only person responding in #httpd asked to ask here
[03:46] <SaberX01> That makes no sesne at all ..install an app called .. tree .. then do tree -L 1 / and you will see all the dir's under the mount point /
[03:47] <SaberX01> of which, /tmp should be one of them, unless you deleted it.
[03:47] <Vedrit> "is /tmp mounted as tmpfs?" is what I was asked. The error I get from Apache2, that I'm trying to resolve, is: [crit] (13)Permission denied: Failed to create shared memory segment for backend 'default' at '/tmp/mod_mono_dashboard_default_2'
[03:49] <lustic> the same method worked for  amnesia the dark decent,  so, yeah must be corrupt download or something,  i'll try to get it again or find it elsewhere,  thanks everyone
[03:49] <SaberX01> Vedrit, that tells me, for whatever reason, apache2 cannot r/w to /tmp .. it's merely guessing if it is an tmpfs setup, thus cvausing the r/w wrror, but I suspect it's not tempfs.
[03:49] <SaberX01> *causing
[03:50] <Vedrit> Okay, so it's permissions? What should it be?
[03:50] <SaberX01> Vedrit, thats that it looks like to me ..
[03:50] <Mendel> Hey guys!
[03:51] <Vedrit> SaberX01: what should the permission be?
[03:52] <spearhead> do ls -la and see what the permissions are for /tmp
[03:52] <Apollo> im running xchat through terminal and from what i read the only way i can make it so i can use that terminal again is by cntrl-z then type bg to put it in the background.
[03:52] <Apollo> is that the easiest way? its just unfortunate cause i have to pause it
[03:52] <spearhead> sorry it needs to be ls -la /
[03:53] <SaberX01> Vedrit, sudo chmod 1777 /tmp ; sudo chown root.root /tmp
[03:53] <Vedrit> Looks like tmp has drwxr-xr-x
[03:53] <spearhead> so users other than root cannot write to it... do what SaberX01 said
[03:54] <spearhead> Apollo: are you using terminal in a window?
[03:54] <Vedrit> Okay. Did that, so lets see if the errors go away...
[03:54] <SaberX01> Vedrit, should be sudo chown root:root /tmp  not " . "  sri
[03:54] <spearhead> Apollo: if so, go to File>New Tab
[03:55] <Vedrit> Well, no errors when I restarted the stack, lets see if my .aspx pages will load...
[03:55] <ianorlin> apollo you can also make a new tab by control shift t in the terminal
[03:55] <Vedrit> darn, no...
[03:56] <SaberX01> Vedrit, did you get the correct shown cmd:   sudo chown root:root /tmp
[03:56] <SaberX01> *chown
[03:56] <Vedrit> Yeah
[03:57] <SaberX01> What's the error your getting nwo ?
[03:57] <SaberX01> *now
[03:57] <spearhead> is apache configured propperly to load aspx files?
[03:57] <DarkAceXtreme> xhost SI:localuser:root
[03:57] <DarkAceXtreme> that's what fixed my sudo issue
[03:57] <SaberX01> spearhead, that was wehre I was going next :-)
[03:58] <DarkAceXtreme> there's a ubuntu 13.10 glitch
[03:58] <DarkAceXtreme> which makes root not be able to run X programs
[03:58] <Vedrit> Nothing other than a 503 error in the browser, and nothing in the error logs
[03:58] <Vedrit> Apache2 may very well be misconfigured
[03:59] <SaberX01> Vedrit, try going to the web-root http://ip-addy/index.html
[04:00] <Vedrit> that should be a local file?
[04:00] <spearhead> if it is on your local computer do http://localhost/index.html
[04:00] <Vedrit> Is it?
[04:01] <Vedrit> Or are you meaning to simply go to the index file I'm trying to reach>
[04:01] <spearhead> where is your apache server you are trying to get running
[04:01] <SaberX01> Vedrit, yes, when you install apache2 it places an "It Works" index.html file int eh web-root to let you know it's working wiht the bas config.
[04:01] <Apollo> ianorlin, thank you, and thank you for the shortcut i love that.
[04:01] <SaberX01> Vedrit, wehre is apache2 installed, local machine or remote server ?
[04:02] <Vedrit> I can access html pages fine, the other virtual host, with an html index, is perfectly accessable. The host with the aspx index is not accessable
[04:02] <SaberX01> Vedrit, you probably need: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-mono mono-apache-server2
[04:02] <Vedrit> I thought I had already done it once or twice before, but I'll do it again
[04:02] <SaberX01> That should sort out your .NET stuff.
[04:03] <Vedrit> Yeah, already have it
[04:03] <Vedrit> So, my guess would be configurations are not right
[04:03] <SaberX01> Vedrit, There s good big of config needed for .aspx .. here's a descent how-too: http://www.toptensoftware.com/Articles/6/Setting-up-a-Ubuntu-Apache-MySQL-Mono-ASP-NET-MVC-2-Development-Server
[04:04] <spearhead> did you delete the html index file from this apache server? if so try adding one just to see if it works
[04:04] <Vedrit> Do I need samba to work? I've had numerous issues with it in the past
[04:05] <spearhead> not if you aren't going to use it
[04:05] <Vedrit> I don't intend to
[04:05] <SaberX01> Vedrit, and for simplicity sake, dont add any VHosts until you can get runnign by simply ln -s /home/$USER/some-project /var/www  .. that way you can isolate the VHost errors from base server errors.
[04:06] <Vedrit> Like I said, one host works fine, remotely and local. It's only when I try to load aspx pages that I run into issues
[04:06] <Apollo> if i use apt-get remove <package>, will apt-get purge <package> also remove and delete the config files?
[04:06] <whatisthematrix> Apollo: yes
[04:07] <Apollo> or do i have to do something like apt-get remove -purge <package> like i have seen somewhere
[04:07] <SaberX01> Vedrit, on the one VHost that works, is it using aspx pages?
[04:07] <Vedrit> Yes. One has html, the other has aspx
[04:07] <Apollo> ok, odd that they did it that one way though
[04:07] <Vedrit> Er, no
[04:07] <whatisthematrix> Apollo: you could just do... apt-get purge <package>
[04:07] <Vedrit> The host that is working does not have aspx
[04:07] <Apollo> ok, thats easier to remember.
[04:08] <SaberX01> Vedrit, Ok, so you still dont know then, it's it's a server config or VHost config issue on the site that is tryign to serve aspx pages.
[04:08] <whatisthematrix> Apollo: that would both  remove the package and the config files
[04:08] <Apollo> remembering all these commands is confusing
[04:08] <SaberX01> Vedrit, You need to ensure the server is capable of serving apsx pages first, then if yes, config VHost correctly.
[04:08] <Vedrit> But at the moment, I don't really see how it would make a difference, since we're only trying to server 1 host with aspx pages
[04:09] <SaberX01> Vedrit, see comment above ^^^
[04:09] <whatisthematrix> Apollo: yea, it can be. you get somewhat used to it after a while tho ;-)
[04:09] <Vedrit> Still don't understand why it would matter.
[04:10] <spearhead> do you have this line in your Vhost AddHandler mono .aspx ascx .asax .ashx .config .cs .asmx .axd
[04:11] <SaberX01> Vedrit, Well if your server can't serve aspx, your VHost will never work.
[04:11] <SaberX01> That is why it matters.
[04:12] <Vedrit> Doesn't look like it, and maybe that's the issue.
[04:12] <spearhead> look at this page about half way down http://www.toptensoftware.com/Articles/6/Setting-up-a-Ubuntu-Apache-MySQL-Mono-ASP-NET-MVC-2-Development-Server
[04:12] <spearhead> it describes creating a vhost to work with asp.net
[04:12] <SaberX01> Vedrit, in a terminal, try mono -V
[04:13] <Vedrit> SaberX01: and look for what? That it loads at all?
[04:13] <SaberX01> See if the config is correct
[04:14] <Vedrit> I don't know what it would look like if configs were incorrect
[04:14] <SaberX01> Alsdo did you mv mod-mono.conf to mod_avail* ?
[04:14] <SaberX01> Vedrit, Are you using a How-Too of any kind ?
[04:15] <Vedrit> I've used so many different ones...
[04:15] <Vedrit> but yes, mod-mono.conf is in mod_avail
[04:17] <SaberX01> Vedrit, Here is the Official one: http://mono-project.com/Mod_mono   .. and .. this from Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ModMono  and this is a good article: http://www.toptensoftware.com/Articles/6/Setting-up-a-Ubuntu-Apache-MySQL-Mono-ASP-NET-MVC-2-Development-Server
[04:17] <SaberX01> I suggest starting from the beginning, and work through the Mon-Mono setup.
[04:18] <SaberX01> Vedrit, It's most likely somethign simple, a config parameter, or link that's missing, but what / where that is could be anywhere.
[04:18] <munderwo> hi all, has anybody used apt-mirror?
[04:19] <SaberX01> munderwo, I use debmirror, but have used apt-mirror in the past.
[04:19] <munderwo> SaberX01: oh cool. So have you uploaded your own deb packages to it?
[04:20] <Vedrit> Odd...I'm getting the index page isn't in the directory...
[04:20] <SaberX01> munderwo, no, you can create your own repos, and add them to your /etc/source.list .. the only packages in the ubuntu repo should be from Ubuntu.,
[04:21] <Apollo> anyone use the script AutoDeb?
[04:22] <glitsj16> Vedrit: you also need to have a symlink to mod-mono in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled .. that step is nowhere to be found in the http://www.toptensoftware.com/Articles/6/Setting-up-a-Ubuntu-Apache-MySQL-Mono-ASP-NET-MVC-2-Development-Server article, but you need that
[04:22] <munderwo> SaberX01: right. so I guess what I want to is create my own repo? Have you done that before?
[04:22] <SaberX01> munderwo, if you want a packaged added officially, have to go through the pbuild and submit process.
[04:22] <munderwo> SaberX01: nah, I just want to deploy my own packages to my own servers? like my own web-apps etc
[04:23] <munderwo> but have them apt-get-abe
[04:23] <munderwo> apt-get-table
[04:23] <Vedrit> symlink?
[04:23] <SaberX01> munderwo, If your talking about a PPS, yes, a full on peronal repo, no, but it's pretty easy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[04:23] <SaberX01> *PPA
[04:24] <munderwo> SaberX01: Righto, I guess that might be the best way. Im assuming that debian can't use PPA's? are they ubuntu only?
[04:24] <SaberX01> munderwo, see comment above, PPA or personal repo will do what your after.
[04:24] <glitsj16> Vedrit: did you do a a2enmod step to enable the mono module? that creates a symlink in that directory
[04:25] <Vedrit> There's already mod-mono in the mods-available folder
[04:25] <SaberX01> munderwo, Yes you can, but it's a bit different process than Ubuntu: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository
[04:26] <SaberX01> munderwo, If it's one or two packages, for Ubuntu, Launchpad PPA easiest route I think.
[04:26] <glitsj16> Vedrit: that only means you have the module, the next thing would be loading it into apache2, which is done by a2enmod command, that's the way apache2 configuration works under ubuntu/debian
[04:27] <Vedrit> glitsj16: odd. When I enter in the a2enmod mod-mono command, it says mod-mono doesn't exist
[04:27] <we6jbo> What do I need if a program (.exe) is saying that I need mono and I'm running Ubuntu?
[04:27] <munderwo> SaberX01: ahh see I got to debian link before and found debmirror etc, and was thinking I could just use those? but it seems like they won't do private mirrors
[04:27] <glitsj16> Vedrit: you need the exact same name the mono mod has without the .conf part, never used aspx
[04:27] <munderwo> sorry not private mirrors, private packages
[04:28] <Beldar> we6jbo, .exe is windows, you familiar with wine?
[04:29] <munderwo> SaberX01: Actually I just found a part on the debian wiki that talks about setting up a PPA. So i'll have a look at the differences to the ubuntu docs. Thanks for your help!
[04:29] <we6jbo> Beldar: I've used wine but this particular application's install info is saying that I need mono
[04:29] <glitsj16> Vedrit: after enabling it you'll need to restart apache2 as well
[04:29] <spearhead> glitsj16: don't you have to a2ensite on the name of the vhost?
[04:29] <we6jbo> Beldar: and I see everything from libmono to mono complete. I'm not sure which one I need
[04:29] <Beldar> we6jbo, Not an answer here, but you might give more details is all.
[04:30] <glitsj16> spearhead: yes, this is about the mono module, not the site
[04:30] <SaberX01> munderwo, You could config it to mirror a private mirror, but what is the point, if all you have is a few packages, stick them on Launchpad, add the PPA , job done. I use debmirror to mirro Ubuntu Repos for fater installs and updates.
[04:30] <spearhead> glitsj16: shouldn't the module be loaded automatically on install?
[04:30] <SaberX01> *faster
[04:31] <glitsj16> Vedrit: how is the mono module called in your mods-available directory?
[04:31] <glitsj16> spearhead: no it needs manual enablement iirc
[04:31] <SaberX01> spearhead, if he hasnt added the module, no it wont.
[04:31] <spearhead> glitsj16: learn something new every day
[04:31] <Nicnm> is there any command that records keystrokes and can later replay them?
[04:32] <Vedrit> glitsj16: mod_mono, so I'll give that a try
[04:32] <munderwo> SaberX01: Oh It was more like, I would like a local mirror of all the packages for speed, and I want to distribute my own packages that I want to keep on my own servers so if I can do that all with one piece of infrastructure that would be great. If I have to do it with two then thats ok.
[04:32] <glitsj16> spearhead: very true :) .. and forget about it the next morning
[04:32] <SaberX01> He needs to start from the Apache2 Mod-Mono setup instructions, until the server is setup right, not gonna render aspx.
[04:32] <rww> Nicnm: in a terminal or in general?
[04:32] <Vedrit> and it says it's already enabled
[04:32] <Nicnm> mostly in the terminal
[04:32] <munderwo> SaberX01: ie I want to have my cake and eat it too :)
[04:32] <glitsj16> Vedrit: cool, so you should be able to test a aspx page
[04:33] <coreder> I'm not able to see the date and time
[04:33] <SaberX01> munderwo, You can, that's the whole purpose of PPA ..
[04:33] <Vedrit> Is there a way to test aspx pages without having to go through a vhost?
[04:33] <coreder> my titlebar doesn't show date and time. What should I do to get it back?
[04:34] <SaberX01> munderwo, it's an atchive / repo of just your packages, add that line to your sources list, and you what your after, a local mirror and personal repo via PPA
[04:34] <SaberX01> *archive
[04:35] <glitsj16> Vedrit: try putting one under your DocumentRoot?
[04:36] <Vedrit> Just so I'm on the wrong track, where is my DocumentRoot?
[04:36] <Vedrit> er, just so I'm -not- on the wrong track
[04:36] <SaberX01> /var/www unless you chaged it.
[04:36] <Vedrit> I hope I haven't....
[04:37] <Vedrit> then just go to localhost/index.aspx ?
[04:38] <SaberX01> Vedrit, mkdir ~/aspx-test && sudo ln -s /home/$USER/aspx-test /var/www    .. then add a know good index.aspx file in aspx-test dir.
[04:38] <SaberX01> *known
[04:38] <Vedrit> Oh, I'm probably complicating things by using master pages
[04:39] <SaberX01> probably ?  lol ..
[04:40] <spearhead> after you do what SaberX01 said then if your apache server is on your local machine http://localhost/index.aspx should open it
[04:40] <spearhead> just replace index.aspx with the name of your aspx file
[04:41] <alnr> is there any way to globally turn off antialiasing? gnome-tweak-tool doesnt do it
[04:41] <munderwo> SaberX01: ahh I think I see now. I can just mirror into a directory and the PPA will scan that and provide the whole thing as a repository.. nice!
[04:42] <Nicnm> rww: just to clarify I'm using terminator and would like it to open autocratically open and resize the prompt windows
[04:42] <Vedrit> 404
[04:42] <Vedrit> I wonder if my permissions on that folder are skrewy too
[04:43] <glitsj16> alnr: gnome-yweak-tool has that option .. it doesn't work?
[04:43] <glitsj16> *tweak
[04:43] <Vedrit> I do see Mono and ASP.NET versions listed on the 404 pages, though, so I hope that's good
[04:43] <alnr> glitsj16: yeah i did try that, maybe i need to do something else like restart, but it did not have any effect
[04:44] <glitsj16> alnr: just checked here, it should work instantly
[04:44] <alnr> hmm. i'm on 12.04 LTS whatever this dm is, unity?
[04:45] <alnr> installing tweak put a crapton of packages on
[04:45] <Vedrit> I'm going to be AFK for a bit. Thanks for the help so far guys
[04:45] <glitsj16> alnr: probably, unity-tweak-tool can do it too
[04:45] <spearhead> Vedrit: run this command to find your documentroot grep -i 'DocumentRoot' httpd.conf
[04:46] <mjmac85_> Hello
[04:46] <glitsj16> alnr: what does "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" output?
[04:46] <andrewjs18> hi, is it possible to force a hdd to unmount in ubuntu?
[04:46] <Vedrit> spearhead: httpd.conf: no such file or directory
[04:47] <viscera> so wait, i'm running VESA and i can do full transparency? pretty cool.
[04:47] <somsip> Vedrit: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, not httpd.conf
[04:47] <mjmac85_> I'm having a problem mounting a usb stick  when using mount I don't know what type to put.  fdisk -l lists it as Linux
[04:47] <alnr> glitsj16: just outputs ubuntu
[04:47] <mjmac85_> so what do I put for the type flag?
[04:47] <glitsj16> alnr: that's unity allright, the name is a bit confusing
[04:48] <alnr> apt or ubuntu software center did not see anything matching unity-tweak-tool
[04:48] <glitsj16> alnr: yeah just saw that isn't available on 12.04
[04:48] <xangua> alnr: what ubuntu release¿
[04:48] <Vedrit> somsip: ok... it did nothing
[04:48] <alnr> xangua: says 12.04 LTS
[04:48] <SaberX01> Vedrit, I wsa in anoth channel, if you did what I said above, point your browser to http://localhost/aspx-test/index.aspx not http://localhost/index.aspx
[04:49] <xangua> alnr: for 12.04, try Ubuntu Tweak http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[04:49] <somsip> Vedrit: I don't know what you are doing, just pointing out the correct file name
[04:50] <Vedrit> That's the problem, I don't know what I'm doing
[04:50] <SaberX01> somsip, he's trying to get apach2 to render apsx / .NET files.
[04:50] <Vedrit> Any how, I have things to take care of, so I will be back in 30 minutes or so
[04:50] <somsip> SaberX01: I have read. Frankly, I don't want to get involved in that
[04:51] <MrCurious> openstack on 13.10 server with the goal  of using VM's on same metal to experiment.  anyone know of a quick start for that? i cant seem to get any nodes out of commissioning
[04:51] <SaberX01> somsip, I dont see the point either, if ya wont .NET use a IIS server is what I'd say :-)
[04:54] <Guest50414> exit
[04:58] <SaberX01> MrCurious, seems to be allot of different appraches to that, im not an openstack expert, but this one looks fairly straight forward:  http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html
[04:59] <SaberX01> It's for 12.04 though .. may be a few delta's to 13.10
[05:00] <MrCurious> thanks, found this one earlier, then discovered that 12.04 was not wanting to play well with windows on my new laptop
[05:00] <we6jbo> Ok now it says Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications
[05:01] <diabolo88> alguien habla español??
[05:01] <xangua> !es | diabolo88
[05:02] <diabolo88> gracias
[05:02] <q0> how do i know whether i can underclock my hp ?
[05:02] <q0> even disable the vga card
[05:02] <somsip> q0: disable the onboard card is usually in the BIOS
[05:03] <q0> alternative options ?
[05:03] <q0> assuming it's not there
[05:03] <somsip> q0: hammer?
[05:03] <somsip> q0: Like, is it there or have you checked and it's not?
[05:04] <strit> q0 if it's onboard it would be there.
[05:05] <MrCurious> seems i failed to import-boot-images
[05:09] <Vedrit> SaberX01: IIS?
[05:09] <spearhead> Vedrit: that is because they made changes I was not aware of in 13.10. to find the DocumentRoot do grep -i 'DocumentRoot' /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf .. also, what SaberX01 said is correct, it should have been http://localhost/aspx-test/index.aspx
[05:10] <uBUXUBu> hi
[05:10] <SaberX01> Vedrit, IIS ~ aka Windoes Web-Server
[05:11] <Vedrit> I'm using 12.04, so what you said, spearhead, still valid?
[05:11] <spearhead> i think it will still work
[05:11] <spearhead> try it and see if it outputs anything
[05:11] <Vedrit> SaberX01: If I can do that Ubuntu, I'd give it a try. As it is, I don't have a spare license for windows
[05:13] <SaberX01> Vedrit, for 12.04 it is:  grep -i DocumentRoot /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[05:13] <Hazard_> Hello
[05:13] <SaberX01> should yeild:  DocumentRoot /var/www
[05:14] <Hazard_> I'm havig networking problems
[05:14] <Vedrit> SaberX01: do I have to do /sites-available/default?
[05:15] <Vedrit> ...or did I do something I shouldn't have way back when?
[05:15] <SaberX01> Vedrit, On my 12.04 server, I have default and default-ssl .. and that's it.
[05:15] <Hazard_> I have Windows 7 OS and used VMPlayer to create a virtual instance of Ubunto 10.04
[05:15] <strit> Hazard_, why 10.04?
[05:16] <Vedrit> I thought that vhosts had to have their own directory in sites-available?
[05:16] <Hazard_> I am able to access the internet from it through the host, yes, but I'd like to be able to connect through Wi-Fi
[05:16] <Hazard_> strit: That's what VM Player has
[05:16] <Beldar> !10.04 | Hazard_
[05:17] <SaberX01> Vedrit, not being funny, buy on a localhost web-server, having all those VHost configs is over complicating things, the same can be accomplished by simply using seperate folders in the web-root.
[05:17] <SaberX01> *but
[05:17] <[-wolong-]> Windows user recommend to wait for 14.04 or?
[05:17] <Vedrit> That would defeat the whole purpose of not spending money
[05:17] <strit> Hazard_, how is the network settings in WMPlayer? are they set up correctly?
[05:18] <SaberX01> Vedrit, not on a local machine
[05:18] <spearhead> Vedrit: have you tried to access the page at http://localhost/aspx-test/index.aspx ?
[05:19] <Hazard_> strit: I believe so, the network connection is on NAT
[05:19] <Beldar> Hazard_, 10.04 desktop is eol you do not have access to the regular repos to start with
[05:19] <Vedrit> spearhead: I didn't make that directory.
[05:19] <anuj> hi
[05:19] <SaberX01> Vedrit, in any case, a LAMP server install on Ubuntu is so easy it should be criminal: udo tasksel install lamp-server
[05:19] <Vedrit> SaberX01: I'm a bit confused, what did you mean "buy on a localhost" ?
[05:19] <rww> eww tasksel :(
[05:19] <SaberX01> I like it.
[05:20] <anuj> I am getting an unmet dependency error concerning libavahi
[05:20] <spearhead> if you ran the command that SaberX01 said before you left then you did
[05:20] <anuj> can anyone help me?
[05:20] <rww> i prefer tools that don't get bored and remove half my packages like tasksel has in the past
[05:20] <somsip> !ask | anuj
[05:20] <Vedrit> Honestly, I'm just trying to get anything to work. Apache2 and mono is the first, and most numerous, that said it would host web pages
[05:21] <SaberX01> rww, that's the nice thing about *Nox system, for every one way to do soemthing, there's many more ways to get the same end results.
[05:21] <SaberX01> *Nix
[05:21] <Vedrit> From here, do I just remove apache2 and mono and get lamp?
[05:21] <anuj> !ask
[05:21] <anuj> !patience
[05:21] <cfhowlett> !details|anuj,
[05:22] <DWTaylor> [-wolong-]: No need to wait for 14.04.  Install 13.10 (the latest release).  You can always upgrade it to 14.04 in April, and then ride out the long term support on 14.04 if you choose.
[05:22] <Vedrit> Also, what is the difference between tasksel and apt-get?
[05:22] <anuj> I have an unmet dependency problem with libavahi-client3 which is not getting resolved through apt-get -f install
[05:23] <Hazard_> Beldar: I'm trying to check if I can somehow access a ewer version
[05:24] <spearhead> Vedrit: lamp stands for linux apache mySQL PHP it is just a shortcut to get all of them together
[05:25] <Vedrit> So there won't be conflicts if I leave... the mess I've made where it is?
[05:28] <spearhead> Vedrit: sometimes it is easier to purge the problem applications and restart following a known good how-to step by step to get the result you want. I'm not saying it is the best option in your case but it might be. If you try to access the aspx page at http://localhost/aspx-test/index.aspx and it works then you don't need to do that but if you try and it still can't find the page it might be best to start over.
[05:28] <SaberX01> Vedrit, maybe that's the best thing for you to do, start from scratch with a LAMP install .. and go from there.
[05:28] <androidfr33k> Hello.  I  want to expand my drive which I did with gparted but want the home dir there on /dev/sda3 instead of /dev/sda1 the /.   I don't think this is a simple task because its my home dir with all the config files login etc.  I goggled searched and found that I need to get the UUID and put that into the FSTAB.  I tried that already and I still loose my /home dir
[05:30] <Vedrit> I can save the web pages I have (Few and temporary as they are anyway)
[05:30] <Beldar> androidfr33k, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[05:30] <Vedrit> I'd rather start over and do it right
[05:30] <somsip> !home | androidfr33k
[05:30] <androidfr33k> Thank you
[05:31] <SaberX01> Vedrit, yeah, I'd also recommend, for testing anyway, just use your /home for directories, and trat eash top-level directory as a VHost .. then all you have to do is ln -s that folder to /var/www
[05:32] <SaberX01> Vedrit, I mean you can certainly go through the pains of VHosting each one and leanign the configs, but it's not necessary to build websites.
[05:33] <Guest82451> hey i noticed that when i add a PATH=$PATH:/NEWPATH line and an export PATH line in either profile or any of the profile.d scripts that nothing happens...
[05:33] <Guest82451> where do i globally  add to the PATH variable ?
[05:33] <Vedrit> SaberX01: It'd probably be best to learn how to get it to work how I want in the first place before I start creating vhosts
[05:34] <SaberX01> Vedrit, I'd agree, get the top level workign and understood well firs, them move onto sub-domain / VHosting.
[05:34] <somsip> Guest82451: ~/.profile or ./bashrc or ./bash_aliases
[05:34] <RPG-Master> My Ubuntu desktop has fallen into that "low graphics fallback" thing, most likely due to something I did with my NVIDIA drivers.
[05:34] <peterrooney> Guest82451: normally, in .bash_profile
[05:34] <Guest82451> somsip: so only user by user then ? no global place ?
[05:34] <RPG-Master> I've tried uninstalling everything nvidia, and then reintalling the version I was last using, but that didn't fix it.
[05:35] <Vedrit> SaberX01: So if I install LAMP on top of what I already have, do you think there might be any issues?
[05:35] <SaberX01> RPG-Master, may helpf to explain what you did, and then the end results.
[05:35] <SaberX01> *help
[05:35] <RPG-Master> Vedrit, ok, give me a moment
[05:35] <peterrooney> somsip: .bashrc is for functions and aliases.
[05:35] <Beldar> RPG-Master, You reboot after theses changes?
[05:35] <somsip> Guest82451: I didn't see you asking about global. /etc/bashrc then
[05:36] <androidfr33k> thanks again that is an excellent guide
[05:36] <somsip> Guest82451: or /etc/bash.bashrc depending on version. Or /etc/environment as an alternative
[05:36] <SaberX01> Vedrit, You want to get right of the other packages first, like sudo -P apache2* ; sudo apt-gee autoremove ; sudo apt-get clean ; then install the new LAMP server.
[05:36] <SaberX01> *get rid of .. ..
[05:37] <SaberX01> sudo apt-get -P apache2*
[05:37] <SaberX01> sri for the typo's having allot of keyboard troubles for some reason.
[05:38] <Vedrit> I'm kind of concerned about apt-get clean
[05:38] <Guest82451> ahhhh login.defs
[05:38] <Guest82451> apparently
[05:38] <Vedrit> What all does that command entail?
[05:38] <Guest82451> grrr
[05:38] <Guest82451> these are the sorts of things they shouldn't change between versions unless its just once lol
[05:39] <SaberX01> Vedrit, sudo apt-get remove apache2* ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update
[05:40] <Vedrit> SaberX01: what does apt-get clean do?
[05:40] <SaberX01> Vedrit, then after that's done: sudo apt-get install tasksel && sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[05:40] <SaberX01> Vedrit, clean up old files, man apt --clean
[05:40] <Vedrit> Okay
[05:41] <RPG-Master> OK, so I was using the latest version of the drivers, 331. I was having some issues with my game Metro:LL, and I saw someone mention rolling back to version 319 fixed their crashing. So I uninstalled 331, and installed 319. This didn't fix my problem so I reversed and went back to 331. All was fine until I got that little red sign in the corner of my screen about some package error which was preventing updating. So I tried my hand at
[05:41] <RPG-Master> fixing it, which involved uninstalling some nvidia stuff, letting it update, and then reinstalling what I had just removed. Rebooted and here I am.
[05:43] <RPG-Master> Since then, I have removed all things nvidia, rebooted, installed my driver version of choice, rebooted, which fixed nothing. Also, I recall reinstalling "ubuntu-desktop" which brought some things back I must have removed awhile ago. Not sure why I did that, it didn't mean much to my current situation.
[05:44] <RPG-Master> Let me type the error I found in the xorg log, which I've got pulled up in the fallback mode here
[05:46] <RPG-Master> "Failed to initialize the the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the system's kernel log for additional error messages and consult the NVIDIA README for details."
[05:46] <RPG-Master> Then it says:
[05:47] <RPG-Master> Failing initialization of X screen 0
[05:47] <RPG-Master> Then some stuff about unloading what it had loaded
[05:47] <RPG-Master> "Screens found but none have a usable configuration".
[05:48] <googcheng> hi  all ! is it safe to upgrade the ubuntu 12.04.3 kernel to 3.13 RC 6
[05:48] <thom_r> anyone get linux kernel 3.11.0-15 today?
[05:49] <Beldar> googcheng, no support on that.
[05:49] <googcheng> i want to solve the black screen when suspend
[05:49] <Beldar> !anyone | thom_r
[05:50] <googcheng> thx Beldar
[05:52] <googcheng> i have to compile one for ubuntu12.04 . is it possible ?
[05:54] <roothorick> two issues. One, my ExpressCard slot isn't actually hotplugging
[05:54] <SaberX01> thom_r, I dont know, still waiting on mirror to finish up on trusty, then have to do my daily sync. 14.04 is on 3.12.x already, what UB version you on?
[05:54] <roothorick> two, I have a A5418-based ExpressCard that randomly stops working, spamming dmesg with "Unable to reset channel, reset status -5"
[05:55] <thom_r> I'm on 13.10
[05:55] <roothorick> any help?
[05:55] <SaberX01> thom_r, ahh, Im on 12.04 here.
[05:56] <SaberX01> The we 12.04.4 point release should be happening soon Id' think.
[05:56] <thom_r> I had to reboot after the new kernel installed. Seemed to boot up faster, and programs seemed to load faster. That's a good thing.
[05:56] <thom_r> might just be my imagination though
[05:56] <SaberX01> thom_r, there's a vry noticable difference in 12.04 and 14.04 both in boot and loading the DE.
[05:57] <googcheng> waiting for 12.04.4   haha
[05:57] <[-wolong-]> SaberX01: like?
[05:57] <thom_r> I probably will wake a week or two after 14.04 is released before I upgrade to it.
[05:57] <SaberX01> [-wolong-], like what?
[05:58] <[-wolong-]> the difference
[05:58] <SaberX01> 14.04 not ready for prime time by no means, but it's up and runnign for those wanting to test installs, work bugs, test DE aps etc.
[05:58] <cortez> is 13.04 locked to X.Org 1.14 or will it see 1.15?
[05:59] <SaberX01> [-wolong-], difference = speed TTB  adn TTDE
[05:59] <[-wolong-]> 1404 better?
[05:59] <googcheng> which is the best tutorial about compile kernel for ubuntu 12.04?
[05:59] <SaberX01> Much
[05:59] <thom_r> cortez, 13.04 will no longer be supported in a couple weeks or so
[06:00] <googcheng> i want to use ubuntu12.04 for my lift , really
[06:01] <SaberX01> googcheng, there are officual how-too also, but I ahve this one book marked, proceed at your own risk :-): http://mitchtech.net/compile-linux-kernel-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-detailed/
[06:01] <cortez> thom_r: what do you mean? 13.04 is the current release!
[06:01] <androidfr33k> Wow what a great guide I completed that in minutes  no problems.  I am in mac using oracle viirtualbox so my original image is intact in case I screed up.  Thanks Again
[06:01] <thom_r> cortez, 13.10 is the current release, it is supported until July
[06:01] <cortez> that's not "a couple of weeks"
[06:02] <cortez> sorry, i am running 13.10
[06:02] <cortez> will 13.10 get an X.Org bump?
[06:02] <thom_r> ok, well you asked about 13.04
[06:02] <cortez> yeah, sorry
[06:02] <cortez> i was thinking of 13.10
[06:03] <cortez> so what's canonical's policy, there?
[06:03] <SaberX01> cortez, This dont tell you the actual date, but has the months:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[06:04] <cortez> SaberX01: fair enough. I'm asking because i have random font glyph corruption in gnome-terminal in 13.10
[06:04] <xangua> cortez: policy is to release secutiry updates, no new software version...except very little few exceptions
[06:04] <thom_r> interesting to note, 10.04 is still supported until may 9th
[06:04] <SaberX01> cortez, for policy, see bottom of the page, Management of Releases.
[06:04] <cortez> SaberX01: i didn't have that in Arch Linux, but Arch was running 1.15
[06:04] <cortez> xangua: okay, so i'm guessing X.Org isn't an exception :)
[06:04] <xangua> thom_r: only server packages
[06:05] <androidfr33k> since that went so well is there a way to resize the / to a smaller size and expand the new /home partition
[06:05] <thom_r> xangua, April for the server, May for the desktop
[06:05] <androidfr33k> gparted has them locked of course
[06:05] <thom_r> according to wiki.ubuntu.com/releases
[06:06] <xangua> thom_r: 10.04 desktop is no longer supported
[06:06] <thom_r> nevermind, you are correct. we are in 2014 now. Still have 2013 on my mind
[06:07] <SaberX01> androidfr33k, you have to boot from another media source, like a LiveCD so you can umount the drives first, but be careful resizing drives with data on them, a good Backup would eb good now Id' think.
[06:08] <androidfr33k> ah ok that makes sense so the drive I want to resize is no longer mounted.  Thanks
[06:08] <googcheng> SaberX01, thanks .
[06:09] <treeprogram> Hi, I can't find 'Software Sources' control app in my dash, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. I need to enable backporting, and the instructions say to open 'Software Sources' to do that.
[06:09] <treeprogram> any suggestions
[06:10] <xangua> treeprogram: Software Center>Edit menu>Sources ; or Update Software, Configure button
[06:10] <SaberX01> Dash >> Update >> select Update manager
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I just did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:10] <qin> !mint
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> and it installed a new kernel and i got this error message
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> Examining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d.
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-58-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-58-generic
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-58-generic (i686)
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> Consult /var/lib/dkms/cedarview-drm/20120717/build/make.log for more information.
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> Setting up linux-headers-generic (3.2.0.58.69) ...
[06:10] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> i am guessing my graphic driver will not work with this kernel again? sigh
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> in the error log i get
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> Makefile:5: /boot/config-3.2.0-58-generic: No such file or directory
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> make: *** No rule to make target `/boot/config-3.2.0-58-generic'.  Stop.
[06:11] <treeprogram> xangua: thanks
[06:12] <SaberX01> yeah what xangua said too ^^^^ :-)
[06:13] <thom_r> Psil0Cybin, what version are you trying to install?
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> well sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> installed kernel -3.2.0-58-generic
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> with headers
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> during the install it said its having problems with cedarview (my driver)
[06:14] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> said to read the log
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> and the log said there was no make file for that kernel build
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> thus i am out of luck again?
[06:14] <cortez> aww, cryptsetup 1.4 :(
[06:14] <cortez> no tcrypt for me
[06:15] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, what Ubuntu Version ? 3.2 Kernel is kind of dated
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> i know
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: but I am using an old acer aspire
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> and it is the only working kernel i can use
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> 3.2 x
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> i have tried newer upstream kernels
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> without luck
[06:17] <Psil0Cybin> 3.2 is the only thing that works
[06:17] <Psil0Cybin> but this new kernel is causing problems with my driver..
[06:17] <SaberX01> What Ubuntu Version ?
[06:18] <Bitwise> Hello. I have a wifi adapter which picks up a signal and a nic card in my computer. How can I use my computer and send a connection through the ethernet port to another device?
[06:18] <thom_r> Psil)Cybin, what Ubuntu version is it?
[06:18] <rww> !ics
[06:18] <rww> dunno if that still works, but i used it years ago
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> thom_r: Xubuntu 12.04
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> or Ubuntu with Xubuntu 12.04
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: this happend before
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> and the only thing I could do was wait for another kenerel
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> but I am starting to get worried, that eventually there is not going to be a new kernel for me to go too :'(
[06:19] <rww> what is the thing that comes up when i hold down alt in Unity? is that that hud thing
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> thus I want to fix this asap
[06:19] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, why did you do dist-upgrade then v.s. just upgrade?
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> I thought it was good security measures?
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> to keep your kernel as up to date as possible?
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> so what would I do now? Just remove the problematic kernels?
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> but I hear this is not a good answer.
[06:21] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, of the 3.2 kernel was the only one that worked, you shoudl get to know this command : echo package_name hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[06:21] <RktRaccoon> Q: is there a way to check to see if certain hardware (a scanner) is now supported at install?
[06:21] <rww> plug it in and see?
[06:22] <RktRaccoon> It would be nice to know before installation.
[06:22] <thom_r> google it
[06:22] <rww> RktRaccoon: LiveCD...?
[06:23] <Beldar> RktRaccoon, simple scan has generic drivers, depends I suppose on what you want.
[06:23] <SaberX01> RktRaccoon, you can grep dmesg for scanner and other things to see, but the best test, after install try to use it.
[06:23] <RPG-Master> Back with a simpler problem: I'm getting a "no screens detected" in my xorg log. How do I fix this?
[06:23] <RktRaccoon> ok
[06:23] <RktRaccoon> thx
[06:24] <SaberX01> RPG-Master, x-org and simple are two words not commonly associated with respect to Linux :-)
[06:24] <Beldar> RktRaccoon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Scanners
[06:24] <RktRaccoon> ah, thanks.
[06:25] <Psil0Cybin> what does that command do
[06:25] <Psil0Cybin> I am still semi new to linux
[06:25] <Psil0Cybin> learning every day
[06:25] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: so what can I do to Diagnose this issue now? Just remove that kernel? and headers?
[06:25] <Psil0Cybin> and wait for a better upgrade?
[06:25] <RPG-Master> SaberX01, I kinda get the feeling. :'(
[06:25] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, I've boot into the recovery mode and reinstall the working kernel they way you did previously.
[06:25] <SaberX01> * I would boot .. ..
[06:26] <Psil0Cybin> Oh actually?
[06:26] <Psil0Cybin> and that could solve my problem?
[06:26] <Psil0Cybin> so restart the laptop
[06:26] <Psil0Cybin> go into recovery
[06:26] <Psil0Cybin> and run what command? sorry
[06:27] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, however you set up the 3.2 kernel you said was the only one that works for you.
[06:28] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, Here's a a descent Recovery Mode How Too: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/09/how-to-repair-broken-system-after.html
[06:29] <SaberX01> And like the How-Too Says, when the system boots, remove the Kernel that causing you trouble, ensuring you keep the kernel that works.
[06:30] <SaberX01> The put a hold on that kernel for future upgrades, so you dont go through this again.
[06:30] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[06:30] <Psil0Cybin> i hope i do not cause problems :P
[06:31] <SaberX01> Anything is possible, but, lets hope not.
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: so if i understand you correctly
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> there is nothing i can do but just remove the problematic kernel
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> and attempt to reinstall it
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> if it does not work
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> blacklist it type thing?
[06:34] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:36] <treeprogram> Hi, my cmake is version 2.8.7. I'm trying to upgrade to 2.8.12.1, but I'm a linux noob. Could someone guide me on how to do it?	
[06:36] <treeprogram> backporting is enabled btw
[06:38] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, "backporting is enabled" makes no sense, do you mean you've enabled the backports repository?
[06:38] <MrCurious> seems my MAAS is not serving up PXE images via dhcp
[06:38] <MrCurious> bet i have competing dhcp servers going
[06:38] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, which Ubuntu are you on?
[06:39] <treeprogram> TheLordOfTime: yes that's right, Ubuntu 12.04
[06:41] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, best thing to do is upgrade to saucy to get as close to that as you can, the dependencies that cmake from Trusty (2.8.12.1) needs aren't satisfiable on Precise, and you'd be upgrading a lot more than just cmake.  You'd have to upgrade libc6 and a bunch of other things
[06:41] <treeprogram> Just to clarify regarding the backports repository being enabled: the 'unsupported updates' checkbox in Software Sources -> Updates is checked.
[06:41] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, Trusty has 2.8.12.1, if you need that compiler you should either install Trusty in a VM or risk your computer exploding by using Trusty on your system (it's still in development)
[06:41] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, that's still irrelevant in this case
[06:42] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, even with the backports repo installed, there's no backports for cmake
[06:42] <rww> cmake isn't a compiler.
[06:42] <treeprogram> TheLordOfTime: would it be easier to upgrade to 2.8.11?
[06:42] <TheLordOfTime> rww, it still isn't easily backportable, libc6 deps aren't satisfiable
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> rww, and upgrading libc6 might break a lot of other things in the process
[06:43] <rww> this response seems tangental to my random fact
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> true though.
[06:44] <TheLordOfTime> rww, it's still not wise for them to try and backport cmake though.
[06:44] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, same issue, the dependencies aren't satisfiable
[06:44] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, is there a reason what's in Precise won't work for what you need?
[06:44] <TheLordOfTime> and a specific reason you want to upgrade that package in particular?
[06:45] <treeprogram> TheLordOfTime: I'm trying to build Bitcoin-based software, and the 'cmake' is failing. Someone who had a similar problem was able to fix it by upgrading to the 2.8.11 version of cmake	
[06:45] <rww> is this dogecoin
[06:45] <TheLordOfTime> ^ that
[06:46] <treeprogram> rww: no, it's MemoryCoin, I want to mine it, as it's CPU friendly, and sell it for bitcoin
[06:46] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, if it's dogecoin then you should just upgrade to Saucy... if it's bitcoind/bitcoin-qt it still works with the precise compilers.
[06:46] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, upgrade to saucy then
[06:47] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, because upgrading cmake is going to need you to basically backport all the build libraries from Saucy to Precise, and there'll be a lot of other problems
[06:47] <treeprogram> TheLordOfTime: I'm worried about breaking things on my PC..
[06:47] <treeprogram> TheLordOfTime: thanks for the info
[06:47] <TheLordOfTime> backporting is a guaranteed way to break things by messing with the libc6 stuff
[06:47] <TheLordOfTime> you're less likely to break your computer when using Saucy.
[06:47] <TheLordOfTime> treeprogram, (back up your data before upgrading, though, that's my suggestion)
[06:48] <treeprogram> TheLordOfTime: thanks for the suggestion
[06:49] <thom_r> 13.10 should have been called Suffering Succotash instead of Saucy Salamander
[06:50] <SaberX01> Or you could build cmake from source, and use something like checkinstall to install it to $HOME and source that cmake binary which compiling, then your not messing with system level stuff.
[06:50] <SaberX01> *when compiling
[06:53] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: if this does not fix the problem
[06:53] <Psil0Cybin> what is next? remove the kernel?
[06:53] <suyash1629> hi everyone, i m getting problem while repo sync, i m getting this error: fatal: [Errno 13] Permission denied
[06:53] <suyash1629> how to fix this error
[06:54] <RPG-Master> y'all I need someone to walk me through diagnosing this. I'm getting the "low graphics mode" deal and besides installing an older version of nvidia drivers and then reinstalling the current ones, I have no idea what I could have done.
[06:55] <RPG-Master> I just want a place to start to find answers. :(
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys can someone help me with an upgraded kernel problem I posted the details here
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2197274&p=12889964#post12889964
[06:55] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, If what does not fix the problem ?
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> I upgraded my kernel but it seems that cedarview my driver does not work, I am wondering what is the easiest solution to go with?
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> for these kinds of issues, as SaberX01 suggested, to do a recovery boot...and attempt to reinstall it
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> just so i can write it all down
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> sorry :P to annoy you SaberX01
[06:56] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, Yes, that answer still seems to be the right one, remove the upgraded Kernel, and use your previous kernel ..
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> perfect so i am printing the documentation
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> you provided :)
[06:57] <suyash1629> does anyone know how to fix this permission error
[06:58] <Psil0Cybin> what is your permission error
[06:58] <Psil0Cybin> i can attempt to help you
[06:58] <SaberX01> suyash1629, what command are you running that gives you the error?
[06:58] <suyash1629> fatal: [Errno 13] Permission denied
[06:58] <suyash1629> repo sync
[06:58] <Psil0Cybin> before i restart my system
[06:58] <Psil0Cybin> what command
[06:58] <xentity1x> hi, i just reinstalled chromium and it doesnt display any websites when i go to the url
[06:58] <xentity1x> it just shows a white page
[06:58] <suyash1629> repo sync is the command
[06:59] <xentity1x> anyone know why this might be happening?
[06:59] <SaberX01> xentity1x, how did you install Chromium ?
[07:00] <SaberX01> suyash1629, I understand it's rsync, but we need the command ..
[07:00] <xentity1x> saberx01 from the universe respository
[07:00] <xentity1x> saberx01 apt-get install chromium-browser
[07:00] <SaberX01> xentity1x, what Ubuntu version you on?
[07:01] <suyash1629> SsaberX01, it says fatal: unable to start /home/xist/android/cm11/.repo/repo/main.py
[07:01] <cortez> i'm getting hit by this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pangox-compat/+bug/1227569 and it's killing me
[07:01] <suyash1629> than it says fatal: [Errno 13] Permission denied
[07:01] <xentity1x> saberx01, 13.04
[07:01] <cortez> gonna try LTS and hope it's not too ancient, i guess :\
[07:02] <SaberX01> xentity1x, you could try sudo apt-get install --reinstall --fix-broken --fix-missing
[07:02] <SaberX01> xentity1x, install chromium-browser .. .. ..
[07:02] <cortez> does LTS come with ufw pre-installed like 13.10?
[07:04] <xentity1x> saberx01, nope didnt work
[07:04] <xentity1x> saberx01, i tried sudo apt-get install chromium-browser --reinstall --fix-broken --fix-missing
[07:04] <SaberX01> suyash1629, So your trying to rsync to / from an addroid?
[07:05] <thom_r> xenity1x try sudo apt-get remove then sudo apt-get install
[07:05] <xentity1x> im not even really sure how to begin diagnosing the problem with this
[07:07] <SaberX01> xentity1x, yeah, as thom_r saidL sudo apt-get purge chromium-browser ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get clean  ... .. then install again.
[07:07] <SaberX01> xentity1x, do an update after clean: sudo apt-get update  ... before install
[07:08] <thom_r> I would imagine that something didn't get downloaded correctly during the install.
[07:08] <SaberX01> xentity1x, Well there is good news on this, 13.04 support ends in this month, may as well Upgrade or ReInstall to 13.10 anyway :-)
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> morning to all!
[07:10] <SaberX01> GM
[07:10] <Macrotus> Morning
[07:10] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: your solution
[07:10] <Psil0Cybin> looking @ the document
[07:10] <Psil0Cybin> is just to remove the kernel?
[07:11] <Psil0Cybin> so your saying remove it, and just run the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade command again?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: did you succeed with dualboot yesterday?
[07:11] <xentity1x> saberx01, nope didnt work
[07:11] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: no, it's still not booting
[07:11] <xentity1x> saberx01, i guess ill just try upgrading
[07:11] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: how can I report my issues to people working on the kernels that I am using?
[07:12] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, remove the new kernel, which is giving you the trouble, that should default you back to kernel that was working if you only did one upgrade.
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> but my problem is if i am using an outdated kernel
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> that is bad news
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> is it not?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: i recently installed 13.10 on w8 uefi machine, worked out of the box for me (single boot)
[07:12] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, If you do another dist-upgrade without a hold on the kernel that worksm you will get to do this all over again.
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> or your theory is because i am already using an out dated kernel regardless
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: so there is no way to FIX the problem
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> and get that problematic kernel
[07:12] <Psil0Cybin> working is what you are saying
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> it is just a issue
[07:13] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, I have no Idea.
[07:13] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: How did you install Ubuntu? Did you just create a partition and install it there or what?
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> that will re-occure.
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: but looking at my issue of the cedarview driver not being made
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> could you not tell?
[07:13] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, You said to us that, the 3.2 kernel was the only one that worked for you and you wated to go back to it.
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: no, like i said worked out of the box for me didnt even touch bios settings...think it depends on machine really
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> or it could be a fluke?
[07:13] <Psil0Cybin> you have no idea
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: what brand is your machine?
[07:14] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: Ok. Mine is a Sony Vaio Pro
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: no no no sorry
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: lemme lookup
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> I was saying 3.2.0-57-generic-pae works, 3.2.0-56 DId not work, bt 3.2.0-55 did work
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> the mainstream kernel does not work
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> nor does the upstream kernel or what ever.
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> and now 3.2.0-58-generic-pae
[07:14] <Psil0Cybin> does not work
[07:15] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, then remove the 3.2.0.56 kerenl and sue either -.57 0r 0-55 then.
[07:15] <SaberX01> *use
[07:15] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: Ok, thanks. I'll need find a Windows 8 installation disk and copy it to a USB stick. If nothing else works I think I can repair the MBR with that
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: maybe this is relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360285/13-10-on-vaio-pro-with-uefi
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> okay SaberX01 so thats it, sorry I was mis understanding you I was asking you if I could fix it...you said you had no idea, but kept saying to remove it...
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> so I was wondering if there was a step perhaps to remake the cedarview driver
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> and try again
[07:15] <Psil0Cybin> but i think you are saying no!
[07:16] <Psil0Cybin> correct.
[07:16] <Prasanna> dsad
[07:16] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: Lol, of course there is a question that is similar to mine.. strange I didn't find that :D
[07:16] <Macrotus> Let me read..
[07:16] <roctawser> Hello, just testing out my new install.
[07:16] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, I know nothing about the cedarview driver. If the 0-57 kernel works, why not use it?
[07:16] <thom_r> roctawser, have any questions?
[07:16] <roctawser> Testing 1,2,3
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> !test | roctawser
[07:17] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: I just thought it was better to use the most recent one you can.
[07:17] <Psil0Cybin> type thing
[07:17] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: as I was explained previously.
[07:17] <Psil0Cybin> so while I am in the previous kernel (just after intalling it without restarting)
[07:18] <Psil0Cybin> could I just remove it? from the Synaps package manager?
[07:18] <roctawser> No, I don't have any questions.  I am using Ubuntu 13.10 and loving it!
[07:18] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, I use the latest kernel that works on my hardware, that may or may not be the latest kernel in the repos. Other folsk may want the latest and kernel available, but I dont do change management that way.
[07:18] <suyash1629> SaberX01, sorry i was disconnected because of my network problem. do you know how to fix that problem
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> roctawser: welcome to the ubuntu experience!
[07:19] <thom_r> roctawser, glad you're enjoying it
[07:19] <Psil0Cybin> SaberX01: thank you that last statement, was amazing..and answered all my problems.
[07:19] <Psil0Cybin> I am just paranoid
[07:19] <SaberX01> suyash1629, from the error you posted, it loosk like the my.py is not running on the android.
[07:19] <Psil0Cybin> and do not want a system thatcan be exploitable SaberX01 that is why
[07:19] <Psil0Cybin> I just am stressing out
[07:19] <roctawser> lotuspsychje:  as they say, "It makes computing fun again."
[07:19] <Psil0Cybin> as you can see.
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> roctawser: true, if you need any handy packages to make life easy just ask us ok
[07:20] <roctawser> Thanks!  That's good to know.
[07:20] <suyash1629> SaberX01, last time someone here said me to give it unix permission from terminal, but i did not remember how to do that..
[07:21] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, well, kernel exploits are  in every Kernel,  just becasue it's newer, does not mean it is safer, sometimes it can be worse.
[07:21] <suyash1629> SaberX01, the .repo folder has lost the unix permissions because it was restored from windows
[07:22] <SaberX01> suyash1629, I think it's like rsync -aIL -s ssh user@host-ip:/folder/to/download /home/android/rsync  .. somethign alone those lines.
[07:22] <SaberX01> rsync -ail -e ssh .... .. .
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: keep up to date and you will be fine
[07:22] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow
[07:23] <Macrotus> When I executed update-grub
[07:23] <SaberX01> lotuspsychje, that's not always true, latest may not run on his hardware ..
[07:23] <suyash1629> SaberX01, do you know how to set unix-permissions to a folder?
[07:23] <SaberX01> suyash1629, chmod and chown
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: i mean up to date, for security flaws (not specifi latest)
[07:23] <suyash1629> SaberX01, A+X?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: isnt there an url that follows ubuntu vunrabilities?
[07:24] <SaberX01> lotuspsychje, yes, agreed, he just needs a hold on that version that works on his box + updates
[07:25] <SaberX01> lotuspsychje, it's an eepc or something . wiht some odd drivers / hw config.
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/218795
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: oh ic, some eepc netbook ive seen run smooth only with that oem ubuntu remix
[07:26] <SaberX01> suyash1629, All you wnat to know, and more, about file permissions: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/help/faq/permissions.html
[07:27] <dhruvasagar> Hey can someone quickly have a look at this - https://gist.github.com/dhruvasagar/8234177 and tell me what;s wrong in my syntax
[07:28] <SaberX01> lotuspsychje, yean and only a couple kernels would boot properly, and he did a dist-upgrade, and it pulled a kernel that floped on a partial install.
[07:28] <Nicnm> how would one go about pulling info form a file in /dev/uinput w/ file permissions of crw-rw----?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: ouch
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> dhruvasagar: maybe the ##programming guys might know?
[07:28] <SaberX01> dhruvasagar, that's a question for #bash
[07:29] <dhruvasagar> lotuspsychje: hmm tried in #zsh got no reply, SaberX01 trying in #bash
[07:29] <suyash1629> SaberX01, i m not that familiar with ubuntu so can you please provide syntax on how to use chown?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> !chown | suyash1629
[07:29] <dhruvasagar> suyash1629: man chown
[07:30] <suyash1629> dhruvasagar, yes chown. do you know/
[07:30] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje can I restore the original MBR? Not sure what the files are that Boot Repair pasted to the net but can these be used to revert it back?
[07:31] <SaberX01> suyash1629, read man chown .. chown <user>:<group> /file or directory, use -R flag for recursive.
[07:31] <dhruvasagar> suyash1629: you can type 'man chown' or 'man <command>' to know more about it in the linux man pages (manual)
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: not sure mate, i never touch those dualboots myself
[07:31] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje lucky you, no need for Windows =D
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: tell us what you need win still for, maybe we can help replace software?
[07:32] <SaberX01> Macrotus, while it's possible, it's nto easy, you ahve to have a boot-repair disk from the Original Win system to do it.
[07:32] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: Not really for anything, it seems better for the touchscreen. And I use Microsoft's OneNote for school notes
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: you can simulate alot of software tru 'playonlinux' did you know?
[07:33] <DarkAceLaptop> alot is not a word
[07:33] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Unless your want rid of Ubuntu / *Nix all together, Grub2 boot loader shoud work well for you booting Win.
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> DarkAceLaptop: this isnt vocabulary school neither
[07:33] <Macrotus> SaberX01 yea... this was easy with Windows 7 but now they have changed something with Windows 8 that doesn't work
[07:34] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje yea I've run programs on Ubuntu with Wine etc, might try out that
[07:34] <SaberX01> DarkAceLaptop, Allot is a work though .. not everyone passed typing class or even took it for that matter.
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19230/microsoft-onenote-alternative
[07:34] <SaberX01> *word though .. LOL see I screwed up on the reply even.
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: :p
[07:35] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Yes, from what Iv'e heard, Win8 == Nightmare.
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: i totaly agree
[07:36] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: I have to check out those apps when I'm ready with this
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: single boot ubuntu will ease up your life really
[07:36] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: True.
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: also 13.10 and 14.04 will be getting better touch support
[07:36] <SaberX01> I dual boot allot, but. mostly dual-boot *Nix & *Nix .. rarely Win + *Nix.
[07:37] <thom_r> Windows 8 is the Jar Jar Binks of the computer world.
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:37] <Eromej> thought it was millenium
[07:37] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: Hope 14.04 has a good one. I don't think 13.10 has that good yet. For example, probably the only thing I use the touchscreen for is scrolling webpages and this didn't work
[07:37] <SaberX01> Macrotus, My experience has been, if I need *Nix on a Windows machine == VirtualBox Install :-)
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: we recently have a user here installing 13.10 on his dell venue and worked with touch on it..
[07:38] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje could've been Firefox or something. Well, I'm installing it anyway so I'll see
[07:38] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea, I'd like to have a real installation though
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: ive tested webbrowser-app on 14.04 seems like it will be touch too
[07:39] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Well there's two viable options then, Native Install or Dual Boot :-)
[07:39] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: Is that some specific browser for Ubuntu or what's that?
[07:40] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I'm trying to get it working in dual boot =D
[07:40] <SaberX01> Macrotus, You box have that UEFI stuff?
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> !info webbrowser-app trusty | Macrotus
[07:40] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje ah, ok
[07:40] <Macrotus> SaberX01 yea
[07:41] <SaberX01> Macrotus, That could be the trouble then, but guess. Most of the answers Iv'e seen for dual-boot that come through here is to disable UEFI when dual booting.
[07:42] <Macrotus> SaberX01 If I set boot mode from UEFI to legacy Windows 8 won't boot
[07:42] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I dont ahve a UEFI system, so cant really advise any further than that.
[07:42] <Macrotus> SaberX01 ok
[07:42] <SaberX01> Macrotus, It should, if you get Grub2 installed properly, but maybe others can chime in on this one.
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: maybe pastebin your grub to chan might help understand whats happening?
[07:43] <keplr> How can I access the temp sensors in a Thinkpad under Ubuntu 13.10? Is there something in the standard repos?
[07:43] <SaberX01> lm-sensors
[07:43] <Macrotus> lotuspsyche What do you mean? Here's what boot-repair created http://paste.ubuntu.com/6679765/
[07:44] <humberto121> hola
[07:44] <SaberX01> keplr, maybe this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !es | humberto121
[07:45] <humberto121> jaja lotuspsychje :)
[07:46] <keplr> Danke, SaberX01
[07:47] <roctawser> I'm on the east coast of the United States, and the winds are very strong from the snow storm.  I lost power a few minutes ago.
[07:47] <Macrotus> So no luck with this thing...
[07:47] <SaberX01> Macrotus, have a read here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/246931/uefi-boot-loading-problems-cant-load-windows-8-or-ubuntu
[07:49] <paddy> how do you share passwords amoung 2 computers which are stored in the firefox browser?
[07:49] <Macrotus> SaberX01 that guy had similar problems but the answer wasn't very informative what he did...
[07:50] <keplr> paddy: lastpass?
[07:50]  * paddy checks
[07:50] <paddy> does not exist in my repo
[07:50] <keplr> it's a Firefox extension
[07:51] <paddy> oops
[07:51] <SaberX01> Macrotus, yeah, he went here, para1 it seems: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[07:51] <keplr> Look up Steve Gibson's audit of Lastpass, it's a good explanation of the technical merits
[07:52] <Macrotus> SaberX01 looks complicated.. =D
[07:52] <SaberX01> Macrotus, don't shoot the messenger, it's an Intel Microsoft thing :-)
[07:53] <paddy> oh, that will store all my passwords on a remote server. and when that is cracked i am lost
[07:54] <keplr> It is structured in such a way that it's not possible for them to recover your passwords.
[07:54] <CrazyWoods> My system fail to startx after install compiz, how to  check it?
[07:54] <Tromino> This is the help irc?
[07:54] <SaberX01> Ubuntu spupport yes
[07:54] <paddy> keplr: thanks
[07:55] <keplr> The Lastpass servers only store encrypted pseudorandom noise which has to be decrypted locally to be used.
[07:55] <Beldar> CrazyWoods, what desktop is this unity has compiz?
[07:55] <Tromino> Google Chrome was renamed to TweetDeck, and it doesn't load. It works if I load it from the terminal, though. :S
[07:56] <CrazyWoods> Beldar: the default one
[07:56] <SaberX01> Ubuntu-Desktop is Unity3d / Compiz
[07:56] <CrazyWoods> Beldar: i use livecd then just make the default choice
[07:57] <Beldar> CrazyWoods, which is unity right? Can you explain the install of compiz, unity is a plugin in compiz.
[07:57] <Macrotus> SaberX01 this is the problem. When I installed Ubuntu the installer didn't have the option for installing alongside Windows. All these guides tell me to use that option. Mine had only the option to completely erase the disk and do a full install on it or "something else" which was to manually handle the partitions
[07:57] <CrazyWoods> i have install compiz using software center, then i just fail to startx after reboot
[07:58] <CrazyWoods> is the Xorg.log file help?
[07:58] <Macrotus> SaberX01 though the problem with this might be that I didn't do what this tells me: "if you use the manual partitioning ("Something else"), the difference is that you will have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition. "
[07:58] <SaberX01> Macrotus, All the Desktop LiveCD use / have along-side option, IF, the LiveCD detest a previous install. Which CD you using?
[07:58] <SaberX01> *detects
[07:58] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I have Ubuntu 13.10 on a USB stick
[07:59] <keplr> Is anyone here using a Thinkpad with Ubuntu 13.10?
[07:59] <Beldar> Macrotus, This a W8 dualboot?
[07:59] <Macrotus> Beldar yes
[07:59] <Beldar> Macrotus, Resize the w8 with it's partitioner leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu.
[07:59] <Macrotus> Beldar, SaberX01 yea the installer didn't detect Windows. In the partition manager it didn't show Windowas on any of the disks
[07:59] <Macrotus> Beldar that's what I did
[07:59] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Beldar prob better for this that I am, likek I said earlier, no UEFI system here to work with.
[08:00] <Hitman> Hi i install steam but it got the error  opengl glx not support what should i do ?
[08:00] <Beldar> Macrotus, This a uefi setup or you installed windows on a msdos setup?
[08:00] <Macrotus> UEFI Beldar
[08:01] <Beldar> Macrotus, You have seen the uefi wiki?
[08:01] <Tromino> How do I replace the broken Google Chrome link with one that works and isn't renamed to "TweetDeck" (o.O) ?
[08:01] <Macrotus> Beldar I'm reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[08:01] <nashant> Hey. Is there any way to get prower control of power settings and create multiple profiles from a gui, like with windows?
[08:02] <Beldar> Macrotus, Not sure why you see nothing, I have not installed on a uefi myself yet, here is another link on these installs though. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:02] <Beldar> Tromino, google chrome?
[08:02] <Tromino> Beldar: yes
[08:03] <Macrotus> Beldar I'll check that one too (huhh)
[08:03] <Beldar> Tromino, this ? means what are you talking about the browser the OS?
[08:04] <Macrotus> SaberX01 that UEFI page you linked didn't really have anything that would've helped me with my problem
[08:04] <Tromino> Beldar: I'm asking how to replace a Dash/Launcher shortcut file with the one you get after you install application, reinstalling the application didn't do anything
[08:05] <Beldar> Tromino, Tweetdeck is like an add on right?
[08:05] <Tromino> Beldar: The Google Chrome dash/launcher shortcut was replaced by one with the name "TweetDeck" that doesn't do anything when I click it
[08:07] <Beldar> Tromino, Look in the menu for the browser icon or open it and drag or save to the dash/launcher, I have not seen this add on is all.
[08:08] <Tromino> Beldar: It was replaced with the renamed one
[08:09] <Macrotus> Damn this pc.. it has a partition that has the Windows installation files and backups but this crap doesn't let me select which partition I want to boot from
[08:09] <Beldar> Macrotus, I just wonder if you are booting the live session in efi or something like that, in that some trhings on some computers have to be on or off. IE quick boot....etc. The manufacturers have their own uefi versions is all.
[08:09] <Beldar> Tromino, In the menu as well?
[08:09] <Tromino> Beldar: yes
[08:09] <Beldar> Tromino, Hmm, strange, have you had a chance to scour the web on this one?
[08:10] <ckknight> Hello, is there other squid monitoring tools than SARG which both users and ip addresses can be seen?
[08:10] <Tromino> Beldar: What did you say?
[08:10] <Beldar> Tromino, Have you checked the web on this?
[08:11] <kruxoman> I've removed the 3.12 kernel via removing some kernel images. I still have the 3.12 klernel as option when booting. Howto remove this?
[08:11] <Tromino> Beldar: Yes,
[08:11] <Beldar> kruxoman, Did you run sudo update-grub
[08:11] <Macrotus> In Windows the partition manager showed me five partitions, why doesn't GParted in Ubuntu show me all of them?
[08:11] <Beldar> Tromino, Not sure myself, first I have heard of this on the channel.
[08:12] <kruxoman> Yes, I'm pretty sure I've done that whevever I changed anything about kernel
[08:12] <kruxoman> Beldar:
[08:12] <MrCurious> score maas tftp server is now up
[08:12] <Tromino> Beldar: I want to remake the shortcut file, how do I do that? Reinstalling didn't work
[08:12] <Tromino> Beldar: Reinstalling Chrome*
[08:13] <kruxoman> Beldar: Oh hang on. Found /boot/initrd.img-3.12.0-031200-generic
[08:13] <Beldar> Tromino, Not saying you have to remove chrome, however if you did not purge it when you did the configs keep the info.
[08:13] <kruxoman> Better delete that then
[08:14] <kostkon> Tromino: see if you can find anything in .local/share/applications in your home folder
[08:15] <helmut_> hi
[08:16] <Tromino> Beldar: google-chrome.desktop is there
[08:17] <Macrotus> Beldar, SaberX01 I decided to ditch Windows and I started installing Ubuntu. I selected the option to wipe the disk completely
[08:17] <Macrotus> Suck it Windows
[08:17] <keplr> Still need Windows (or OS X) for Netflix :(
[08:17] <kruxoman> Macrotus: inb4 realising "i forgot to backuyp something"
[08:17] <keplr> Or some ridiculous workaround
[08:18] <SaberX01> Macrotus, That will be good .. 13.10 pretty fast .. after install, you can add 14.04 for testing and dual-boot that side by  side too, that's what I ahve on this Laptop.
[08:18] <Macrotus> kruxoman I have everyting in Dropbox. I only had some programs installed there but I can always download them on Ubuntu again
[08:18] <Tromino> [Desktop Entry]
[08:18] <Tromino> Encoding=UTF-8
[08:18] <Tromino> Version=1.0
[08:18] <Tromino> Type=Application
[08:18] <FloodBot1> Tromino: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:18] <Tromino> Name=TweetDeck
[08:18] <Tromino> Icon=google-chrome
[08:18] <Macrotus> SaberX01 does that have any stability issues or is it your daily os?
[08:18] <SaberX01> Macrotus, You cna also sync files to Ubuntu1 .. 5GB free
[08:19] <Tromino> u
[08:19] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I was using Ubuntu One but I changed to Dropbox when I bought a new phone -> got 25 gigs free
[08:19] <SaberX01> Macrotus, It's still in A1 stage, yes but it's nice to have a looky at what's coming  down the pipe.
[08:20] <Macrotus> SaberX01 ah ok. Maybe I'll install it when it comes out as a stable version..
[08:20] <SaberX01> Macrotus, If you get references to sign up fer UB1, you get more storage free too.
[08:20] <Tromino> Beldar: so I edit that? do I delete it?
[08:20] <Beldar> Tromino, Not sure to be honest.
[08:21] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea I know but it can't beat my 35 gigs in Dropbox :D About waiting 14.04... I think 13.10 will be a massive upgrade from Windows 8 =D
[08:21] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I have my own local mirror for 12.04 & 14.04, so updates are quick .. get a good number of updates daily on 14.04.
[08:21] <SaberX01> and 12.04 about to release the last point release too 12.04.4
[08:21] <Macrotus> SaberX01 ah ok =D
[08:22] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Just my personal opinion, anything is a Mass Upgrade from Win8 .. lol
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> !mir > lotuspsychje
[08:22] <Macrotus> SaberX01 when EA releases Battlefield 4 for Linux I will delete all my Windows OSes
[08:23] <SaberX01> Macrotus, BF4 on PS3 :-)
[08:23] <Macrotus> SaberX01: Not really a console guy =)
[08:24] <SaberX01> This is all Off Topic, we'd better stick to the theme here or we'll get shouted at :-)
[08:24] <Macrotus> Lol =D
[08:24] <Tromino> Beldar: I tried loading the exec in the terminal: /opt/google/chrome/chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:25] <AiA> there used to be a restricted drivers popup for my nvidia card... have they removed it?
[08:26] <pragmatism> How do I disable keep-alive using curl?
[08:27] <kruxoman> pragmatism: --no-keepalive
[08:28] <SaberX01> yeah, what he said ^^^  is supposed to work.
[08:28] <kruxoman> pragmatism: "man curl" then type /keepalive
[08:30] <kruxoman> I have an nvidia optimus graphics card and am currently on kernel 3.8. I want a never kernel but what should I do with bumblebee/drivers?
[08:30] <Tromino> Beldar: Ok, I deleteed than and reinstalled now it works
[08:32] <SaberX01> kruxoman, what version Ubuntu you have?
[08:32] <kruxoman> SaberX01: ElementaryOS/Ubuntu12.04
[08:33] <SaberX01> kruxoman, I know nothing about EOS sri
[08:34] <kruxoman> SaberX01: It's based on Ubuntu 12.04 so it's kinda the same
[08:34] <thom_r> Elementary?
[08:35] <thom_r> what about it?
[08:35] <SaberX01> kruxoman, still not supported here through.
[08:36] <SaberX01> *though
[08:37] <kruxoman> SaberX01: lol, then just imagine I have Ubuntu 12.04. Almost the same thing
[08:38] <Beldar> kruxoman, How about we imagine you actually installing ubuntu fir the great support.
[08:38] <eject_ck> On Ubuntu box $uname -a -> Linux evgeniy 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:38] <eject_ck> $ openssl version -> OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
[08:38] <eject_ck> $ openssl engine -> (rsax) RSAX engine support (rdrand) ;Intel RDRAND engine; (dynamic) Dynamic engine loading support
[08:38] <eject_ck> How can I get aesni there ?
[08:38] <eject_ck> CPU have support
[08:38] <kruxoman> Beldar: Imagine I install Ubuntu 13.10. How should I then go about updating to kernel 3.12/3.13 and using bumblebee?
[08:40] <makara> hi. I have a single core virtual machine showing load average of around 5, but nothing's happening, as shown by the htop cpu meter. Why is the load average so high?
[08:40] <Beldar> kruxoman, The deal is, all that elementary is, can be done in ubuntu so if you want ubuntu support here install ubuntu, this is just how it is, is all.
[08:42] <SaberX01> eject_ck, Info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43021/is-aes-ni-fully-supported
[08:42] <eject_ck> SaberX01: thank you!
[08:43] <kruxoman> Beldar: So there is also no Lubuntu/Kubuntu support here? The fact that you do the same stuff in eOS Luna as in Ubuntu 12.04 when installing stuff etc. then it does not really matter if i run pure Ubuntu 12.04 or eOS Luna.
[08:43] <hexacode> hey you guys. why would this happen?  i recently got a server set up with some public keys. the computers that generated them were then able to ssh into the said server using their respective id_rsa keys..problem is after it working for a few days now i get public key denied?
[08:43] <SaberX01> But i really don't understand the paranoia about the need to encrypt the file system, thats a bit crazyness.
[08:44] <hitsujiTMO> kruxoman: eos is not supported here. we don't use it so we have no idea how its configured. Lubuntu and Xubuntu share the same common underlying configs as well as repo. But much has been changed in eos that we don't know about so we are unable to support it
[08:45] <dashuo> Is there a way to block keyboard shortcuts for gnome-terminal when using vim in it??
[08:45] <SaberX01> kruxoman, yes there support for thsoe distros, but no EOS. Ubuntu is based on Debian, but Ubuntu folks dont generally go to Debian channel for Ubuntu support, or vice versa.
[08:45] <shiznix> guys, i've successfully installed 13.10, but booting into this new install, it gives nothing but a blank purple desktop
[08:45] <shiznix> is this a known issue ?
[08:45] <peter> hello
[08:46] <SaberX01> shiznix, what hardware you running, old / new, Graphics / UEFI y/n ?
[08:46] <Beldar> shiznix, Do a nomodeset boot, and if you get the desktop do the updates and check the additional drivers.
[08:46] <peter> i do not know,how to start the fingerprint -bodhi linux
[08:47] <shiznix> no uefi, so probably gfx drivers yeah ?
[08:47] <Beldar> peter, bodhi is not supported here I believe they have a channel though.
[08:47] <Guest32299> can you help me
[08:47] <somsip> !ask | Guest32299
[08:47] <hitsujiTMO> !details | Guest32299
[08:48] <kruxoman> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for pointing out that there are underlying changes.
[08:48] <shiznix> Beldar: will do, but how do i set nomodeset at boot ?
[08:49] <Beldar> !nomodeset | shiznix
[08:49] <shiznix> Beldar: i do get a desktop, it's just blank with a mouse, right click works and i can change the desktop background
[08:49] <Beldar> Guest32299: Try #bohdilinux
[08:49] <shiznix> just don't have any desktop icons, side launcher or top panel
[08:50] <shiznix> aah ok, so reads like nomodeset is not for me, the splash screen is fine, and i do get a beautiful purple desktop (albeit blank) :p
[08:51] <shiznix> i'll check the gfx drivers
[08:51] <Beldar> shiznix, nomodeset is a low graphic boot, you seem to have graphic problems.
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> shiznix: what gpu do you have?
[08:55] <shiznix> hold on i'll get some details
[08:57] <makara> hi. The size of my virtual server's drive is 40G, and according to "df -h" I've used 4.2G. But one of my apps (a proxy) has a 20G cache file, which I can verify with "ls -lha". What's going on?
[08:59] <mikodo> In rsync, what does copy symlinks as symlinks mean? Does it make a copy of the directory path, or does it follow the path and copy the data at end of path?
[09:01] <SaberX01> mikodo, depens on which flag, but standa --links: When  symlinks are encountered, recreate the symlink on the des‐
[09:01] <SaberX01>               tination.
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> makara: whats the path to the cache file and is it on a tmpfs?
[09:01] <SaberX01> mikodo, see man rsync .. then /--links to search
[09:01] <makara> mikodo, see the man file. See what the other options do -L, -k, -K, -H
[09:02] <mikodo> SaberX01, makara Thanks. will look at man rsync
[09:03] <makara> hitsujiTMO, /opt/ats/var/trafficserver/cache.db
[09:03] <SaberX01> mikodo, in a nushell, if there's a link on the source, when using -L --links .. it creates the same link in the destination tree.
[09:03] <sec_> ask about cron job: this command is correct? "*/5 13-14 * * * cd /root/ro && /root/ro/ory.sh" or ""*/5 13-14 * * * cd /root/ro && ory.sh" ?
[09:04] <makara> hitsujiTMO, the only sizeable filesystem is /dev/mapper/geriatrix--vg-root   38G  4.2G   31G  12%
[09:04] <mikodo> SaberX01, Gotcha!   Thanks'
[09:04] <hitsujiTMO> makara: can you pastebin the output of: ls -l /opt/ats/var/trafficserver/cache.db
[09:04] <makara> hitsujiTMO, "-rw-r--r-- 1 tserver tserver 21474836480 Jan  3 10:16 /opt/ats/var/trafficserver/cache.db"
[09:04] <llutz> sec_: if you really need to cd into that dir before, use  ".... cd /root/ro && ./ory.sh"  assuming /root/ro is not part of your $PATH
[09:05] <cortez> how do i grab the source files from a PPA and build it on my own machine?
[09:05] <cortez> ie. the recommended way
[09:05] <somsip> !ppa | cortez
[09:05] <sec_> llutz: thanks i need cd that dir
[09:05] <SaberX01> sec_, use absolute paths, and cd in the scripts as needed.
[09:05] <somsip> cortez: so, you install from official repos, or you're in unsupported territory
[09:06] <llutz> sec_: let the script cd to wherever it has to, makes it much easier.
[09:06] <shiznix> hitsujiTMO: gpu is an intel 855GM
[09:06] <hitsujiTMO> makara: thats certainly interesting. not sure how its pulling it off. this is ext4?
[09:07] <sec_> llutz: i like ".... cd /root/ro && ./ory.sh"
[09:07] <llutz> sec_: no, inside the script
[09:07] <svergie2> Hi! Can i ask a question?
[09:07] <somsip> !ask | svergie2
[09:07] <sec_> llutz: okie
[09:07] <SaberX01> cortez, there should be a deb http:// .. .. .. use deb-src http://.. .. .. of the PPA.
[09:08] <cortez> thanks SaberX01 & somsip
[09:08] <llutz> sec_: you just call /path/tp/script.sh   and inside  script.sh  there is a "cd /path/needed/" statement
[09:08] <hitsujiTMO> shiznix: thats your chipset. can you pastebin output of: lspci | grep VGA
[09:08] <makara> hitsujiTMO, yes
[09:09] <cortez> SaberX01 & somsip the reason i want to build from source is i have no way of knowing that a PPA maintainer is malicioius
[09:09] <cortez> malicious*
[09:09] <somsip> sec_: in the script "PWD = `pwd`; cd /path/needed; do rest of script; cd $PWD
[09:09] <llutz> somsip: no need inside a cronscript
[09:09] <somsip> cortez: hence why they are unsupported...
[09:09] <somsip> llutz: fair enough, but if the script mught be run from command line...?
[09:10] <llutz> somsip: true then
[09:10] <svergie2> Can i dualboot using WUBI? And is it possible to just upgrade from 12.10 to 13.10 when i get acces to ubuntu?
[09:10] <cortez> somsip, yeah. but if i can audit the source (compare checksum to upstream, read packaging commands), then i'll be happy enough
[09:10] <somsip> svergie2: install wubi if you must. PLay for a while to see if you like it, then do a proper dual boot as soon as you can
[09:10] <cortez> ie. like Arch's AUR
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> makara: i can only guess that ext4 allows for volatile files somehow that i'm not aware of
[09:11] <svergie2> Thanks
[09:11] <shiznix> hitsujiTMO: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[09:13] <eject_ck> Guys, can't get aesni in list of openssl engines.
[09:13] <eject_ck> both lts and desktop latest
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> shiznix: can you pastebin the output of: lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3                   so we can see what driver its using
[09:14] <SaberX01> eject_ck, You should really go into the openssl channel for AES-NI
[09:14] <eject_ck> thank you
[09:14] <shiznix> hitsujiTMO: Kernel Driver in use: i915
[09:14] <cortez> so now that I have the deb-src for the PPA in my sources.list, what's the recommended method to download and build the sources?
[09:15] <cortez> i know that debian has multiple ways (?)
[09:15] <cortez> i seem to recall some tool that does a clean chroot build
[09:16] <cortez> pbuilder?
[09:16] <SaberX01> cortez, if really that worried, debootstrap and build the packages there.
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> shiznix: i can only assume that you gpu isn't capable of the 3d acceleration needed for unity 3d.
[09:16] <SaberX01> cortez, ans yes, you going to need pbuilder as well.
[09:16] <cortez> SaberX01, it's more to have a clean, self-contained build.
[09:16] <cortez> the worried bit is fixed by reading the source and comparing checksums :)
[09:17] <eject_ck> why I don't see aesni in "openssl engine" output ?
[09:17] <SaberX01> cortez, Here's a good start: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[09:17] <sec_> thanks llutz
[09:18] <F1k> I had a weird bug few days ago. ATIcofig recognised the graphics card, but the application that needed to use it couldn't.
[09:18] <sec_> thanks somsip SaberX01 too
[09:18] <F1k> tried reinstalling the driver, didn't work
[09:18] <SaberX01> cortez, toward the bottom there's links for Packaging, Debian Policy and Packaging Tutorial Links.
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO>  shiznix you may wish to try 12.04 as that has a 2d version of unity or try a non accelerated DE such as lxde or xfce
[09:19] <Blinkiz> Hello. I will buy a webcam and microphone that I can use with Google Hangout and other video programs. I want as high resolution and quality as possible with a good price. What will work in Ubuntu?
[09:19] <shiznix> hitsujiTMO: i'm ok with that but shouldn't 13.10 be using llvm software render if it's not ?
[09:19] <shiznix> otherwise, how would it be able to run in a VM ok ?
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Blinkiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[09:20] <shiznix> Beldar: no joy with nomodeset btw, and thanks for the link
[09:21] <SaberX01> cortez, also, I missed you question earlier, to install the sources, you should be able to do somehting like: sudo apt-get source <package-name>
[09:21] <mikolaj__> on startup Ubuntu often crashes sometime between grub and login, what may be the most likely cause for this?
[09:21] <mikolaj__> it never crashes after log in
[09:22] <Beldar> mikolaj__, do text boots and see the crash.
[09:22] <shiznix> Beldar: actually it got worse with nomodeset as it killed VT switching :(
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> mikolaj__: can you press F1 during boot, to see what errors you have?
[09:22] <Beldar> shiznix, it is a per-session.
[09:22] <SaberX01> or check dmesg for errors after the crash.
[09:22] <Macrotus> Hey I just installed Ubuntu on the laptop using the option that wipes the disk. Well, it wont boot...
[09:23] <mikolaj__> lotuspsychje, when do I press F1?
[09:23] <shiznix> Beldar: is ok, only did a temp kernel parameter boot - was well worth a shot
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> mikolaj__: after POST boot (when ubuntu boots up)
[09:23] <cortez> sorry if anyone was talking to me, fullscreen flash in chrome just took out my xserver
[09:23] <cortez> :(
[09:24] <SaberX01> Macrotus, you have that UEFI turned off  and when it asked yo about the boot loader in the MBR you say yes?
[09:24] <SaberX01> cortez, also, I missed you question earlier, to install the sources, you should be able to do something like: sudo apt-get source <package-name>
[09:24] <Macrotus> SaberX01 UEFI is turned on. Wait, asked what?
[09:24] <njsg> how do I set the default gcc toolchain version?
[09:25] <njsg> (kind of like gentoo's gcc-config, for those who know that one)
[09:25] <mikolaj__> sometimes I get a msg that the "CPU core 1/2/3/etc was stuck for 23 sec!"
[09:25] <mikolaj__> but only sometimes
[09:25] <SaberX01> cortez, Wait, dont use sudo wiht that, just apt-get source <package-name>
[09:25] <Macrotus> SaberX01 now it won't even boot from the USB stick.. what?!
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> mikolaj__: doublecheck your /var/log/syslog for any strange errors
[09:26] <SaberX01> Macrotus, thes UEFI gurus gonn have to chime in here, but if you dont need Win8 anymore, tun off the UEFI stuff and install normally that way.
[09:27] <SaberX01> cortez, als see man apt-get  .. then .. /source
[09:27] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Let me see...
[09:28] <Macrotus> Changed boot mode from UEFI to legacy -> Operating System Not Found
[09:29] <SaberX01> Macrotus, that probably because  Grub2 didn't make it to the MBR cuz of the UEFI being enabled.
[09:29] <Macrotus> I'll install it once again. Unfortunately our wifi has some problems and downloading the packages from the net is terrible.. So slow. =D And my laptop doesn't have an ethernet port
[09:29] <Macrotus> ShaberX01 Yes.
[09:30] <shiznix> hitsujiTMO Beldar: thanks for your help so far guys, i'll persevere with it a bit more and see what i can come up with :)
[09:31] <Macrotus> SaberX01 should I disable Intel virtualization in bios? Someone on the internet said that should be disabled
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> Macrotus: no don't disable it.
[09:31] <SaberX01> Macrotus, If you dont plan on installing VM's ya dont need it, but it dont hurt to be enabled.
[09:31] <Macrotus> Well then I'll leave it on
[09:32] <Macrotus> I have set the boot mode to legacy and disabled secure boot. Now when I try to boot from the usb stick I get just a black screen saying "Boot error"
[09:32] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I dont think I've ever tuned mine off .. some of that CE1 stuff, and OC items, yeah, but not Virt.
[09:32] <hitsujiTMO> Macrotus: what type of boot image is it?
[09:34] <SaberX01> Macrotus, also, make sure the boot order is set to USB / External or whatever first, and that all the modes for boot are allowed.
[09:35] <Macrotus> hitsujiTMO I downloaded 13.10 64 bit from their site and copied it to a USB stick using Universal USB Installer
[09:35] <root__> hello
[09:35] <Macrotus> SaberX01 let me double check.. I don't think I changed them
[09:35] <vlad__> hello
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> Macrotus: pendrivelinux doesn't work for most with 13.10
[09:37] <Macrotus> hitsujiTMO it has been working earlier
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> Macrotus: what changed ? before it stopped working
[09:37] <njsg> "pendrivelinux"? aren't you using the ISO image directly?
[09:38] <Macrotus> SaberX01 can't boot... "Boot error". I've set boot mode to legacy so it won't use UEFI and disabled secure boot.
[09:38] <njsg> Macrotus: make sure you are booting from the USB drive
[09:38] <njsg> Macrotus: try to trigger some boot menu and explicitly pick the USB stick
[09:38] <Macrotus> hitsujiTMO Not sure. I booted from the stick and installed Ubuntu using the option that wipes the disk first so it would remove Windows. When it rebooted it didn't start again
[09:38] <njsg> hmm, I take it gentoo has no explicit way to manage different versions of the same package? such as /usr/bin/gcc?
[09:38] <njsg> ups ubuntu
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> Macrotus: does it only boot with uefi mode enabled?
[09:39] <Macrotus> njsg: Nobody really seems to know how to access boot menu on this thing. I've tried everything: F1-F12, esc, delete, shift..
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> !gcc | njsg
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: F12 should give you boot device menu
[09:40] <Macrotus> hitsujiTMO: Yes, if I set it to UEFI it will boot off the stick
[09:40] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: not on this device. It just starts booting right away.
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> Macrotus: then the universal  usb installer never installed a mbr to that usb ans therefore it will only boot in uefi mode.
[09:41] <njsg> lotuspsychje: how does that help me?
[09:41] <Macrotus> hitsujiTMO damn...
[09:42] <hitsujiTMO> Macrotus: whats wrong with uefi tho?
[09:42] <njsg> lotuspsychje: at least unless I'm missing something it does not explain how to make the package manager or something set /usr/bin/gcc and others to point to a specific version
[09:42] <Macrotus> jitsujiTMO: It doesn't seem to work as we have discussed with lotuspsychje and SaberX01
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: he's on a sony vaio pro
[09:43] <njsg> Macrotus: which computer is that, or motherboard? you may have more luck searching for how to get into the firmware setup by motherboard or computer model name
[09:43] <hitsujiTMO> in what way doesn't it work?
[09:43] <Macrotus> njsg: it's a Sony Vaio Pro
[09:44] <Macrotus> hitsujiTMO: Well now after wiping the disk and doing a full install of Ubuntu on it it won't boot.
[09:44] <Macrotus> hitsujiTMO: It also couldn't dualboot with Windows..
[09:45]  * lotuspsychje never saw a machine that could not singleboot ubuntu
[09:46] <njsg> I think that'd be practically impossible, except of couse for trusted computing
[09:46] <njsg> *course
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> Macrotus: ok. at what point in the boot process does it fail?
[09:46] <Macrotus> hitsujiTMO: After the Vaio logo disappears
[09:47] <Macrotus> and it starts loading os
[09:48] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I found this in the Vaio Pro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360285/13-10-on-vaio-pro-with-uefi
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: here's a guy fixxed it with  libata.force=noncq http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183114
[09:49] <DwarfDefender> if i put 512 as first value to net.ipv4.tcp_rmem and  net.ipv4.tcp_wmem, whould that make system use 1024 bytes of memory per socket?
[09:49] <Macrotus> I have already tried that (SaberX01 lotuspsychje)
[09:50] <Repox> Any of you guys have any experience with LXC? I'm trying to learn and I started an Ubuntu 13.04 and installed LXC. First container had a network connection at fist boot. But after that the container gained no ip address anymore. Nor did new containers. Installed a fresh Ubuntu again and everything seems to work this time. I worry about using this in a production environment.
[09:51] <SaberX01> Macrotus, when you see the BIOS screen, is there an F12 or some other F+key that will allow you to select Boot Menu ?
[09:52] <Macrotus> SaberX01 there's no such screen. If I want to access bios I need to turn off the computer and press an assist button on the keyboard to access a menu where I can select to boot from a dvd/usb, access bios or to access recovery
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: did you try enable F12 network boot in bios?
[09:52] <SaberX01> Macrotus, You may need to tuen OFF quiet mode in the BIOS to allow you to see it.
[09:52] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje: There's no such option. The bios is very empty
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: maybe the ##hardware guys might also know any know issues?
[09:53] <SaberX01> Man, this UEFI stuff is a real PITA ..
[09:53] <ikonia> Repox: if this is the level of experience with it - don't use it in a production environment
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: :p
[09:54] <Repox> ikonia: I wouldn't. But it is something that worries me still. Maybe there could be an explanation as to why it happened.
[09:54] <ikonia> Repox: are you serious ? that's all the information you've given us and you want me to explained why it happened
[09:55] <ikonia> Repox: "it didn't get an IP" - that's it, that's as much debug information as you've given us
[09:55] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje asked the same there
[09:56] <Macrotus> SaverX01 there's no such quiet mode setting.
[09:56] <Repox> ikonia: I kind of missed the line where I specifically asked you to explain something for me. But that's probably just me...
[09:56] <ikonia> Repox "Maybe there could be an explanation as to why it happened."
[09:56] <ikonia> Repox: if you're not asking me/the channel, I don't know who you are asking
[09:57] <Repox> ikonia: Yeah, you know what? Nevermind... irc is getting so f*cking hostile.... don't even know why I bother anymore...
[09:57] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I've found several sites saying add : libata.force=noncq : to boot parameters, but nothing about not getting to a boot menu from the BIOS
[09:58] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I'll try that once more. I had some problems earlier with that..
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: can you take a photo of your bios?
[09:59] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje I try first that libata.force=noncq option
[09:59] <SaberX01> Macrotus, there saying at power on,  PRESS and HOLD the ASSIST button and then the power button. Now you get the menu you want.
[09:59] <llutz> Macrotus: do you have any "normal computer using bios/legacy boot"? use that to create a new 13.10-usb to fix your system with
[10:00] <SaberX01> Macrotus, then they found SLAT for hyper-v in the 2 - (or F2 ?) advanced bios settings screen
[10:00] <Macrotus> llutz I've created this with my desktop that is a "normal" computer
[10:00] <llutz> Macrotus: using uefi too?
[10:00] <Macrotus> llutz yes
[10:01] <llutz> Macrotus: hence i asked "normal computer using bios/legacy boot"?
[10:01] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I'll try soon, I give this boot option a try first
[10:01] <Macrotus> llutz ah..
[10:01] <kruxoman> What should one use to limit program access for a user to lets say only chromium?
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> kruxoman: what would you need it to do?
[10:03] <Macrotus> SaberX01 lotuspsychje: If I use nano to edit /etc/default/grub doesn't it edit it on the USB stick?
[10:03] <llutz> kruxoman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124759/customize-ubuntu-for-a-library-internet-kiosk
[10:03] <kruxoman> Perfect(headline at least) llutz
[10:04] <SaberX01> Macrotus, How are you running nano form the USB ? is do, no that's mounted RO.
[10:04] <kruxoman> That's so cool
[10:04] <SaberX01> *if so .
[10:05] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I was planning to edit the boot options with this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/360285/13-10-on-vaio-pro-with-uefi
[10:05] <neonrain> llutz good article. I will save it for future use
[10:05] <Macrotus> SaberX01 that's the one you linked
[10:05] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Ok, that is the Grub installed on the disk they are editing.
[10:06] <Macrotus> SaberX01 To me that looks like editing on the live usb.
[10:06] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I take that back, that's at the Grub Boot menu, using "e" I think to edit the boot options.
[10:07] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I can't get to Grub so I can't do that then?
[10:07] <SaberX01> Macrotus, anything you edit from the LiveCD / USB image, is RO ..
[10:07] <Macrotus> SaberX01 what's RO?
[10:07] <SaberX01> read only
[10:08] <SaberX01> Macrotus, You need to get booted into LiveCD before you can edit those options.
[10:09] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I have booted from the usb and I selected the try Ubuntu before installing option.
[10:09] <SaberX01> Macrotus, others may be able to verify, but during the boot, if you hit shift or tab, I dont recall which, can dump you to Grub for option edits.
[10:10] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Oh, I thought you were unable to boot the USB key .. then you chould be able to do the install.
[10:10] <SaberX01> *should
[10:10] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I used Universal USB Installer again to put Ubuntu on the stick and with boot mode set to UEFI I was able to use it again
[10:10] <ItsMeLenny> is there a way to make a shortcut instead of a link?
[10:10] <SaberX01> Macrotus, have a read of this real quick for overview / understanding: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[10:11] <ItsMeLenny> i want a shortcut so that when i go into it it has the full file path
[10:11] <llutz> Macrotus: use dd to write the iso again onto usb and try to boot that
[10:11] <SaberX01> llutz, whay dies he need to dd anything?
[10:11] <SaberX01> *does
[10:12] <kruxoman> ItsMeLenny: Why do you want that?
[10:12] <llutz> SaberX01: to get a legacy-bootable usb-stick to repair his installation
[10:12] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I'll read that
[10:12] <SaberX01> Ok you lost me on that one.
[10:12] <ItsMeLenny> kruxoman, because when i right click and open in terminal it has used the link path, and i need the full path
[10:14] <F1k> Can I ask a stupid question?
[10:14] <SaberX01> !ask | F1k
[10:15] <F1k> lol.
[10:15] <kruxoman> ItsMeLenny: Use readlink -f
[10:15] <kruxoman> ItsMeLenny: cd `readlink -f testlink`
[10:15] <F1k> How can I use xubuntu without a mouse? I need to open a console / terminal
[10:16] <ItsMeLenny> F1k, ctrl+alt+T
[10:16] <ItsMeLenny> kruxoman, but i need the link to work in nautilus
[10:16] <F1k> ItsMeLenny: lifesaver
[10:17] <ItsMeLenny> F1k, or i think you can press the "windows" key to pop up the menu
[10:17] <kruxoman> ItsMeLenny: Use a alias for the following: cd `readlink -f .`
[10:17] <Macrotus> SaberX01 So you were reffering to the last chapter in the document, "Changing boot options permanently for an existing installation"?
[10:17] <kruxoman> ItsMeLenny: Then you can use that when youre in a folder and wants the absolute path
[10:17] <F1k> windows key didn't work.
[10:18] <SaberX01> Macrotus, yes, that and Changing the CD Boot Option Configuration Line
[10:18] <kruxoman> ItsMeLenny: Oh, I misunderstood you. But why do you want that at all?
[10:19] <ItsMeLenny> kruxoman, because when i go into a link to a folder i want the filename to be the full path
[10:19] <Macrotus> SaberX01 but isn't the "Changing the CD boot Option Configuration Line" just for booting the CD and not the installation on the SSD?
[10:20] <SaberX01> Macrotus, You can use that option in any for the boot images, CD, USB or whatever, it's takes affect for that install.
[10:21] <SaberX01> Macrotus, then after install, you cna use the USB LiveCD again and change permanently is need be
[10:21] <Macrotus> SaberX01 but because I can't access Grub that is installed on the drive I can't use that
[10:21] <norad> hi any idea how to get the newest version of vlc in to ubuntu 12.04 ? tryed the master ppa but no luck
[10:21] <SaberX01> Macrotus, are you sure that you installed Grub ?
[10:22] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Shouldn't it be installed automatically?
[10:23] <hillary> How to check  mobile attached Com Port in ubuntu 12.04
[10:23] <SaberX01> Macrotus, If you said yes, during installation at the section that said, Install to the MBR.
[10:23] <Macrotus> SaberX01 It didn't ask that?
[10:23] <SaberX01> Macrotus, :-) I dont know, I wasn't there to see it :-) .. Did it ask you to install to MBR?
[10:23] <llutz> Macrotus SaberX01 : if you installed *buntu in UEFI-mode it probably will have installed grub-efi, which you cannot boot in legacy-mode.
[10:24] <SaberX01> llutz, If you know how to sort this out, please, help us, as Im lost on UEFI
[10:24] <Macrotus> SaberX01 No. I selected the option to wipe the disk and do a full install of Ubuntu on that. So it wiped Windows.
[10:24] <Macrotus> llutz Yes, I installed it in UEFI mode
[10:24] <Macrotus> And now I'm booting in UEFI too.
[10:25] <kruxoman> ItsMeLenny: What are you going to use the absolute path for?
[10:25] <llutz> SaberX01: that's why i suggested to get a legacy-bootable usb ready to repair the grub-installtion (chroot , replace grub-efi with grub2)
[10:25] <SaberX01> I dont know how to do that.
[10:25] <ItsMeLenny> kruxoman, my own sanity, it's just for my personal files, things dont work right when using the symlinked one
[10:26] <Macrotus> SaberX01, llutz: Now I've booted from the USB and I have Boot Repair here in front of me. When it launched it said EFI detected, see options.
[10:26] <Macrotus> Shouldn't I be able to get it working with this?
[10:26] <llutz> Macrotus: and the options you see are what?
[10:26] <hillary> how do i check modem com port in ubuntu 12.04?
[10:27] <kruxoman> ItsMeLenny: I guess you have to move your files then ^^
[10:27] <Macrotus> llutz there are these tabs, main options, grub location, grub options, mbr options (this is disabled) and other options. On the main options tab there is a checkbox that is not checked "Use the standard EFI File".
[10:27] <ItsMeLenny> kruxoman, that doesnt make any sense
[10:27] <Macrotus> Then there's also Unhide boot menu and it's set to 0 seconds. Might this be a reason for Grub not appearing?
[10:29] <Macrotus> On the GRUB options tab, should I try to add splash libata.force=noncq to the "Add a kernel option" textfield?
[10:29] <llutz> Macrotus: not sure if this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_Legacy_mode
[10:29] <cortez> so if chrome is repeatedly whitescreening my xorg, do you guys care?
[10:29] <cortez> technically it's not part of ubuntu but it's a pretty major piece of software
[10:29] <cortez> i suppose i have to take it up with google
[10:30] <SaberX01> llutz, Macrotus as llutz have to conver the grub to legacy first, then work the secondary items.
[10:30] <SaberX01> *as llutz sais ..
[10:31] <Macrotus> SaberX01, llutz so you are saying I shouldn't try to use boot repair to just try to fix the UEFI first?
[10:32] <SaberX01> Macrotus, This is the part you need first: go to the "GRUB location" tab. Untick the "Separate /boot/efi partition" option
[10:32] <SaberX01> The Apply.
[10:32] <SaberX01> Then.
[10:33] <SaberX01> After, set the BIOS to boot legacy mode
[10:33] <rJaspur> is this something of ubuntu 13.10 or a plugin? that info after i vagrant ssh in my vm. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nzbpkvxspv739a/Screenshot%202014-01-03%2011.32.29.png
[10:34] <SaberX01> Macrotus, That, in theory should allow Grub2 to boot normally.
[10:34] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I need to first create a partition for that. It says GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1 MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as GParted. Then try again.
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> rJaspur  vagrant seems to be a developper tool, are you a developper?
[10:36] <rJaspur> yes MonkeyDust, but not that familiar with ubuntu. never seen that info after loggin in to my ubuntu 12* machine.
[10:36] <Macrotus> SaberX01 there are three partitions on my disk: sda1 is fat32 and is 500 MB size. It has the boot flag. sda2 is ext4, it's the partition where Ubuntu is installed. Then there is 8 GB sda3 partition that is linux-swap
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> rJaspur  it may be beyond the scope of this channel, better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:37] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Follow the recommendations, exit Boot Repair, fire up Gparted o create a BIOS-Boot partition (1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag) at the start of its disk.
[10:37] <llutz> Macrotus: if your disk contains an efi-boot partition (the fat32 most likely, it is not needed in legacy mode anymore) you can change that into the bios_grub one.
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> rJaspur: if you're reffering to the system usage info. thats available in 12.04 aswell but not installed by default on a minimal system
[10:38] <rJaspur> thats is hitsujiTMO. what plugin is it?
[10:38] <SaberX01> llutz, How does he do that?
[10:39] <llutz> SaberX01: point 1 of the link i gave him, boot into live-usb, use gparted (or gdisk, parted)
[10:40] <Macrotus> SaberX01 llutz Here's a picture of GParted
[10:40] <Macrotus> http://sharepoint.peltoset.fi/1388745585741-2014-01-03-12.37.15.jpg
[10:41] <llutz> Macrotus: umount /dev/sda1, change type to bios_grub EF02
[10:41] <Macrotus> llutz: EF02?
[10:41] <hitsujiTMO> rJaspur: i think its part of landscape-common
[10:42] <llutz> Macrotus: partition type "bios_grub" = code EF02   i don't know if gparted uses the name or the code to set
[10:43] <Macrotus> llutz, ah it has bios_grub in the list
[10:43] <weeb1e> Hello everyone
[10:43] <Macrotus> lluzt, what about the second part: unformatted filesystem? Do I just right click, select format to and select cleared?
[10:44] <llutz> Macrotus: you can format it it fat16/32 but there is no need to do
[10:44] <weeb1e> Can anyone tell me why ionice cannot be found in the apt repo on 12.04.2 LTS? I'm fairly certain I have installed ionice with apt-get on other 12.04 boxes
[10:44] <llutz> Macrotus: that partition won't hold any files later, it just has to be existing
[10:45] <kruxoman> Why do I still have alot of /boot/*-3.2* kernel stuff on my machine? Is it safe to delete those when on 3.8 kernel? Ex: initrd.img-3.2.0-51-generic
[10:45] <DarkAceLaptop> alot is not a word
[10:46] <kruxoman> DarkAceLaptop: I see. And you don't understand what I mean?
[10:46] <llutz> Macrotus: after you finished  follow steps 2...5 of   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_Legacy_mode  and keep your fingers crossed
[10:46] <Macrotus> llutz but it says unformmated?
[10:46] <weeb1e> kruxoman: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
[10:47] <llutz> Macrotus: if gparted allows, then leave it unformatted
[10:47] <kruxoman> AHAHAHA point taken weeb1e DarkAceLaptop
[10:47] <weeb1e> :)
[10:48] <SaberX01> Macrotus, just FYI .. dont forget to commit / save the changes when your all done :-)
[10:49] <Macrotus> llutz http://sharepoint.peltoset.fi/1388746157180-2014-01-03-12.47.42.jpg
[10:50] <llutz> Macrotus: if gparted allows, then leave it unformatted
[10:52] <Macrotus> llutz Yea, deleting it made it unallocated
[10:52] <llutz> Macrotus: you don't delete it !
[10:54] <llutz> Macrotus: whats so hard with: umount /dev/sda1, change type of sda1 to bios_grub EF02 and save/quit?
[10:54] <DwarfDefender> does setting SO_RCVBUF in application overrides settings in net.ipv4.tcp_rmem?
[10:54] <llutz> i'm out now
[10:54] <Macrotus> llutz, thanks. Let's hope this works
[10:55] <makara> hitsujiTMO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file
[10:56] <hitsujiTMO> makara: ahh cool. never encountered that before
[10:56] <gehh> Hi guys,  after a lot of fails yesterday I finally managed to install 13.10 by using nomodeset,  then after the reboot I couldn't use nomodeset cause it was not working so I used instead acpi= off then I had a mug saying my computer is running low graphical blabla...  So I tried Sudo get-install fglrx to get my AMD graphic card driver but failed as I got the message unable to resolve be.Ubuntu...
[10:56] <makara> hitsujiTMO, every day, hey
[10:57] <gehh> Mug=msg
[10:58] <RoyBlech> hello
[10:58] <gehh> Hi
[10:59] <gehh> (gehh) Hi guys,  after a lot of fails yesterday I finally managed to install 13.10 by using nomodeset,  then after the reboot I couldn't use nomodeset cause it was not working so I used instead acpi= off then I had a mug saying my computer is running low graphical blabla...  So I tried Sudo get-install fglrx to get my AMD graphic card driver but failed as I got the message unable to resolve be.Ubuntu...
[11:01] <Macrotus> llutz, SaberX01: Well, I did that all on the page and it says it successfully did the tricks. This is what it gave me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6683806/ Now when booting in legacy mode, I get an error saying operating system not found.
[11:09] <gehh> (gehh) Hi guys,  after a lot of fails yesterday I finally managed to install 13.10 by using nomodeset,  then after the reboot I couldn't use nomodeset cause it was not working so I used instead acpi= off then I had a mug saying my computer is running low graphical blabla...  So I tried Sudo get-install fglrx to get my AMD graphic card driver but failed as I got the message unable to resolve be.Ubuntu...
[11:09] <eren> hello
[11:09] <eren> I cannot find thttpd in 12.04. Why was it removed?
[11:09] <eren> I will serve cgi scripts (mailman) with thttpd, it seems easy to setup together with nginx
[11:09] <SaberX01> Macrotus, To be honest Im kinda lost on this. I think grub is looking for /core.img in the wrong place, but how to fix that, Im not sure.
[11:10] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Hmm.. This is tricky
[11:11] <morpheus7> hello - is anyone here using shellinabox
[11:12] <SaberX01> Macrotus, The main problem really is, you can't seem to boot the USB / CD from your normal BIOS, if you could this would all be a non-issue.
[11:12] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea I wonder why that is...
[11:14] <SaberX01> Macrotus, now that you have Grub2 in that special EFI partition, this is a guess, but I wonder is a quick reinstall would fix it,or go back to wehre we were initially.
[11:14] <SaberX01> Macrotus, There is an advanced options screen in the BIOS, soemthing with F2  that should allwo you to get at the boot menu, in normal BIOS
[11:15] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Now there is that problem again where I can't boot from the USB stick. It shows the grub to let me select install or try but after selecting try and after the Ubuntu logo disappears it hangs in black screen.
[11:15] <Macrotus> SaberX01 None of the regular buttons for accessing it didn't work. I tried F1-F12, delete, esc...
[11:16] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Or,. wiht the USB, you may be able to perform a rescue too.
[11:17] <Macrotus> I'll try a reinstall SaberX01
[11:17] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Ok, this is seriously painful. sri for all the hassle.
[11:18] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I have never seen a pc this painful to use...
[11:18] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I think I found the BIOS stuff
[11:19] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Get into the BIOS by pushing the assist button when the system is shut off and then hitting Start BIOS Setup. Do not try to boot from your usb key using recovery mode, instead change the boot order in the BIOS.
[11:19] <SaberX01> Macrotus, then we make some changes
[11:19] <Macrotus> SaberX01 That's the way I have managed to boot to from the stick.
[11:19] <Macrotus> What changes?
[11:20] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Intel(R) AT Support System = [Disabled] Secure Boot [Disabled] External Device Boot [Enabled] Select 1st Boot Priority	[External Device]
[11:20] <Macrotus> SaberX01 That's the way I have set them.
[11:20] <SaberX01> Macrotus, and Boot mode Legacy
[11:21] <Macrotus> SaberX01 The Ubuntu USB stick won't boot in legacy
[11:21] <SaberX01> Macrotus, and they say this as well: mportant! Do NOT use the usb port labelled with a lightning bolt, you will never get it to even boot.
[11:22] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Does this Laptop have an SSD HD ?
[11:22] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Aaaah, that's it! I haven't put the stick in the same port every time...
[11:22] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yes, it's a PCIe SSD
[11:22] <SaberX01> Macrotus, When booting from USB you might need to append libata.force=noncq to the kernel parameters to avoid problems with the SSD
[11:23] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Lets see if you can get it too boot form another USB port first.
[11:23] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I started creating the live USB again because I thought it had some problems. Just a minute and it's done, then I'll try again
[11:23] <SaberX01> Ok no hurry
[11:24] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea I switched the port and now it booted
[11:25] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Great! I believe it's in legacy now. It didn't ask if I want to try or to install it and now I have a graphical screen in front of me asking that. That's what I expected earlier but I got the Grub screen to select this
[11:25] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Try to do your install, using the whole drive again.
[11:26] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I will
[11:26] <john_rambo> I want to convert a wma file to mp3 . What app should I use ?
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> john_rambo: avconc
[11:27] <Macrotus> SaberX01 It detects the existing installation of 13.10. Should I reinstall it, delete the old and install fresh or select the "some other option" and select the partition manually?
[11:27] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I would install fresh
[11:28] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I'll try
[11:28] <SaberX01> john_rambo, Soundconverter is another option. Then, there's a ton of cli script methods.
[11:29] <SaberX01> Macrotus, I think the biggest issue wsa the USB port not booting in Legacy.
[11:30] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea, hope this works
[11:30] <SaberX01> Macrotus, one must have faith if nothing else :-)
[11:31] <Macrotus> True
[11:31] <SaberX01> Macrotus, when you get to that Grub instlal portion, toward the end of the install .. Select Yes to MBR
[11:33] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Let's see if it asks for that because I think it didn't last time
[11:34] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Now it's doing the installation of the system. It's sliding through the slides and the progress bar is in the bottom. This is the phase what started after selecting time zone, keyboard layout and user names etc
[11:34] <SaberX01> Macrotus, You may be right, I don't mostly server installs with the debian installer, more of a command line ncurses type installer, the LiveCD may do that for you.
[11:34] <SaberX01> *I do mostly .. ..
[11:34] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Maybe, I have installed Ubuntu many times and I don't know if it has ever asked that
[11:35] <SaberX01> Macrotus, do a serer install once, it's all different, and about 30 times faster it seems.
[11:35] <SaberX01> *server
[11:36] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea, I have had Ubuntu Server on my home server downstairs but currently it's running Windows Server 2012 Enterprise.
[11:36] <SaberX01> Macrotus, That's the installer Im talking about then.
[11:36] <Macrotus> Yea
[11:36] <RPG-Master> I'm able to use "modprobe nvidia_331" and startx to get to my desktop, but if I reboot I'm present with the low graphics mode window, which mean I got to do the command all over again.
[11:37] <RPG-Master> Oh my gosh that was almost gibberish
[11:37] <RPG-Master> It's like 5:00am here
[11:37] <SaberX01> RPG-Master, I need to check but on later distro's, I think kmod replaced modprobe
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig   and reboot
[11:38] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: I'm holding you accountable. :P
[11:38] <RPG-Master> brb
[11:39] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Be back in a few need a coffee.
[11:39] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Sure, enjoy
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | SaberX01
[11:40] <Macrotus> ubottu multiple, lol :D
[11:40] <Macrotus> Lol, bot =D
[11:41] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: Nope :P
[11:41] <RPG-Master> I had to do modprobe and startx again
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: ok, rename or delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:41] <giacomo_> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
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[11:42] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: try:  echo "nvidia_331" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[11:42] <giacomo_> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
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[11:42] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: should load the kernel module for you
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> giacomo_: please stop it, ubuntu support only here
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:43] <RPG-Master> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:43] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip:  I did that echo command and I didn't get any real response? That normal?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: thats normal
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: try a reboot now :)
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: did you install the deskotp OS or did you install server?
[11:45] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: Desktop, a few days after the release of 13.10
[11:45] <SaberX01> Macrotus, what the status ?
[11:45] <Macrotus> SaberX01, downloading language packets
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: gotcha, ok try a reboot
[11:45] <RPG-Master> brb, again
[11:45] <SaberX01> Macrotus, in the installer still ?
[11:45] <Macrotus> SaberX01, Yes
[11:45] <SaberX01> k
[11:48] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: ALMOST
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: wassup?
[11:49] <RPG-Master> Got to the pretty login screen, logged in, now I'm at my desktop, but without Compiz and unity
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: sounds great :)
[11:49] <RPG-Master> So windows without title bards
[11:49] <RPG-Master> *bars
[11:49] <RPG-Master> they do not sing
[11:50] <SaberX01> Macrotus, If this works, dont forget to cheange you BIOS back to Ecternal Device = Disable ( if you want) and First Boot Deice back to Internal Drive, for faster boot.
[11:50] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yes =)
[11:50] <SaberX01> wow, it's late, typos up the wazoo .. lol
[11:50] <Macrotus> What's the time there?
[11:50] <SaberX01> 5:00am
[11:51] <RPG-Master> Now, what could be prevent unity from loading?
[11:51] <RPG-Master> Also, I swear English is my first language... I've been up way to long
[11:51] <Macrotus> Oh, that's late =D It's 2 pm here =)
[11:51] <RPG-Master> same, 5am here in Alabama
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: add a startup item to run:  copmpiz --replace
[11:55] <linux> hi
[11:55] <SaberX01> Hello
[11:58] <Macrotus>  Still installing the system...
[11:58] <SaberX01> Macrotus, well at least it hasn't fallen over yet .. lol
[11:58] <Macrotus> Yea
[11:58] <SaberX01> reboot will tell the the real story though
[11:58] <Macrotus> Last time it didn't boot after I pressed reboot
[11:59] <SaberX01> Macrotus, that was with UEFI thought right?
[11:59] <SaberX01> *though
[11:59] <Macrotus> Yes. Let's hope it works now =D
[11:59] <SaberX01> It should be ok.
[12:03] <cortez> damnit ubuntu, now i'm addicted to unity
[12:03] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: SO CLOSE
[12:03] <RPG-Master> Really, I could just stop here
[12:03] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Restart time!
[12:03] <cortez> i gotta leave ubuntu because of some unfixed font rendering bug, but suse doesn't have a proper unity build :(
[12:04] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Wohooo! Works :D
[12:04] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i need your help please, i used the synap package maanger to uninstall a kernel that was not working (it also uninstalled my driver) for my worker kernel and now when i go back to additional drivers and install,  i get a jockey error and it says i need to restart my machine
[12:04] <Psil0Cybin> did I just mess it up?
[12:05] <RPG-Master> But, I notice this weird glitchy thing going on when see the login screen, and I think what is going on is that it's not loading compiz until I actually login, so the hang in the begin is it falling back to some non-composited mode. Maybe. I'm no expert.
[12:05] <Psil0Cybin> it uninstalled cedarview-drp
[12:05] <Psil0Cybin> or something
[12:05] <Psil0Cybin> as well as the kernel that did not work :S
[12:05] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Ok, first ting you should probably do is opena Terminal Ctl+Alt+T and: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: could use a non-compoziting session
[12:06] <Macrotus> I'll change the boot order in bios first
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: like xfce / lxde :)
[12:06] <Psil0Cybin> it just keeps sitting at searching for avaliable drivers
[12:06] <ubuntulyf> Hello, I want to take a filename and parse it for the extension if any
[12:07] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Im just glad it made it to the Desktop :-) well done, sri for all the hassle .. think the USB port was the main point, but no way to really see that one coming.
[12:07] <ubuntulyf> so if I have example.py
[12:07] <Psil0Cybin> i  activiate Cedar Trail drm driver in DKMS Format
[12:07] <ubuntulyf> I can see that the file extension or whatever is '.py'
[12:07] <Psil0Cybin> and i get a sorry installation of driver failed please have a look at jockey.log
[12:07] <RPG-Master> No, all I want is to get back to the way things were before I went messing with my drivers. :P
[12:07] <ubuntulyf> How can I do this in bash in ubuntu?
[12:07] <Psil0Cybin> but it worked before I uninstalled a NON working kernel?
[12:07] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea, it's weird. I think the lightning icon just means it can charge usb devices when the computer is turned off.
[12:08] <ubuntulyf> would awk, grep, or sed work best?
[12:08] <Psil0Cybin> i get this error 2014-01-03 07:06:57,376 WARNING: /sys/module/cedarview_gfx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind cedarview_gfx driver
[12:08] <somsip> ubuntulyf: look at 'awk'
[12:08] <Psil0Cybin> anyone please?
[12:08] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Thanks a lot for your help =)
[12:09] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: Anyway, thanks for all the help man. :D
[12:09] <somsip> ubuntulyf: although, depending on eactly what you want to do http://is.gd/9Lnf71
[12:09] <RPG-Master> I think I can take it from here.
[12:09] <SaberX01> ubuntulyf, echo "somefile.txt"|awk -F . '{print $NF}'
[12:10] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Cool gald its sorted, we all learned a bit from that one :-)
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ubuntulyf: Call Details: Alex     Owen     Corporate Development Manager     31/12/2013     V     No     Corporate Development
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Ann     Tennent     Transport Supervisor     31/12/2013     O     No     Wimbledon
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Nicola     White     Accounts Assistant     31/12/2013     I     No     Manheim Retail Marketing
[12:10] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea, we learned that Sony makes things complicated =D
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Helen      Cann     Driver     31/12/2013     V     No     Manheim Inspection services
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Pat     McInally     General Manager     31/12/2013     V     No     Glasgow
[12:10] <FloodBot1> ActionParsnip: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Richard     Kirkman     Client Support Supervisor     31/12/2013     V     No     Manheim Retail Marketing
[12:11] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i need your help please, i used the synap package maanger to uninstall a kernel that was not working (it also uninstalled my driver) for my worker kernel and now when i go back to additional drivers and install,  i get a jockey error and it says i need to restart my machine
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: what solved it now?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: why are you not using software centre?
[12:11] <njsg> is there some way to install an older version of texinfo?
[12:12] <Psil0Cybin> well I just reinstalled using synap ActionParsnip going to restart
[12:12] <Psil0Cybin> see if it helps. .. i hope this works
[12:12] <Macrotus> So the port with the little icon works in UEFI mode, but for legacy it doesn't work.
[12:12] <Macrotus> Well, fortunately it took only 4 hours today and 2 yeasterday...
[12:13] <SaberX01> lotuspsychje, well the main issue was the USB port with the Lightning Bolt  could not boot the USB key, it he'd used another port, Grub Legacy Install would have worked, but no way of knowing that initially..
[12:13] <SaberX01> *If
 ubuntulyf: although, depending on eactly what you want to do http://is.gd/9Lnf71
[12:13] <ubuntulyf> somsip, thanks that's what I'm looking for
[12:13] <ubuntulyf> but what are those things in the example
[12:13] <ubuntulyf> "${FILE#*.}"
[12:13] <FloodBot1> ubuntulyf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:13] <ubuntulyf> ^ is this a regex of some kind?
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: usb 2.0 ports?
[12:13] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje no, they are 3.0
[12:13] <SaberX01> No idea
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: ah, ive seen issues like this before, machine not seeing the usb stick
[12:14] <MarkDavies> hi
[12:14] <Macrotus> SaberX01, lotuspsychje: So the stick booted in UEFI mode when it was attached to that port with th lightning bolt icon, but legacy didn't work in that. When I put the stick in the other port it started working in legacy
[12:14] <MarkDavies> how can I browse the Ubuntu repository from console level?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntulyf: export FILE=/path/to/filename.ext
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> MarkDavies: apt-cache search wordshere
[12:15] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Yeah, I found a site wiht alot of Infor about your box or the SOny Pro at least, will PM you wiht it.
[12:15] <DarkAceLaptop> alot is not a word
[12:15] <Macrotus> Hmm, my computer locked because I didn't touch it for a while and after unlocking it now the cursor wont move... buttons work though
[12:15] <Macrotus> SaberX01, thanks
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> DarkAceLaptop: you got an automatic 'alot' script?
[12:16] <SaberX01> Macrotus, has info on Vid, Lan, touchpad the works.
[12:16] <Computer1> I am facing a problem if someone can please help ;_)
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> Computer1: describe your issue mate
[12:16] <SaberX01> !details Computer1
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> http://i42.tinypic.com/2a9bl79.jpg :)
[12:17] <SaberX01> !details | Computer1
[12:17] <Computer1> I have 5 PCs (wiht ubuntu) connected to a windows central machine , and i want to connect other 5(ubuntu machines), what am i supposed to do.,? And help wud be appreciable :-)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Computer1: connect for what. 'connect' doesnt mean anythnig
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> Computer1: what is your purpose for this?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Computer1: if you ping between the systems, that is a 'connection'
[12:18] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I hope Ubuntu 14.04 will have great support for touch screen. The page you linked says no support for multitouch gestures, but that might have to do with Arch.
[12:19] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Maybe, but thats more of a kernel / driver thing I think. 14.04 uses the 3.12+ kernel. Now that you know how to do it, DL 14.04, and install side-by-side, it's easy.
[12:20] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I'll enjoy this for a few days first so then I can see what changes there are etc. I don't want to mess up this right away =D
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Computer1: without further details we cannot possibly advise
[12:20] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Ok good plan ;-)
[12:21] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Dont foget to do you Update & Upgrades
[12:21] <Macrotus> SaberX01 It's doing that now. It's taking quite long
[12:21] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Yeah, first one usually has a fare number of updates.
[12:22] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I wonder why the installation took so long if it didn't update everything
[12:22] <Macrotus> Even Windows installs faster
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> the hardest part of support is that one can't see what the user is doing
[12:22] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje, TeamViewer? =)
[12:22] <SaberX01> Macrotus, There's allot of Dling going on in the background during the install and on a slower connection, can take a while.
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: and people using poor terms, or trying to sound technical with language they don't understand
[12:23] <paulus68> lotuspsychje, teamviewer is your friend in that case
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: well in many cases we cant teamview an ubuntu install right unless you point another laptop webcam to it
[12:23] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Yea. We have 100/10 connection but for some reason the wifi seems slow. Though, it's not getting under 30/8 so it shouldn't be bad...
[12:23] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje, that's true
[12:24] <paulus68> lotuspsychje, then the only alternative you have is to do an automate install
[12:24] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Also, you want to update your mirrors for best speed, got to Dash >> Update Manager >> Ubuntu Software Tab >> Download from Other, and hit select bester mirror.
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Macrotus: or use apt-fast
[12:25] <Macrotus> SaberX01 I will, this is doing those other updates first.
[12:26] <SaberX01> ActionParsnip, what package is apt-fast in?
[12:26] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I need some help please! I uninstalled a non working kernel and it seems to have taken my drivers with it!! I am missing my drivers and my text on my screen is very fuzzy and it is hard to make out text
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> SaberX01: its in a PPA
[12:26] <Psil0Cybin> but i finally was able to boot into any display by going into another kernel and reinstalling the driver through terminal
[12:27] <Psil0Cybin> but i can tell some settings are off or it is not enabled or this is a fallback driver.
[12:27] <YokoBR> hi guys, please, i have an ultrabook and i need to create an windows bootable usb, but i use linux... is there any app to do that?
[12:27] <Psil0Cybin> is there no way to fix my driver to the way it was before i removed the non working kernel?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> YokoBR: I believe unetbootin can do it if yu format the usb partition to NTFS
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> YokoBR: which you will need Windows for
[12:28] <SaberX01> ActionParsnip, no wonder I couldn't find it .. LOL .. I have my own local mirror so I don't really use all the speed increase tools.
[12:28] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, i guess that unetbootin is only for linux distros
[12:28] <SaberX01> But that's a good one to know about.
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> YokoBR: you wanna go back to windows?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> YokoBR: no, ive seen guides getting windows on usb
[12:29] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I need some help please! I uninstalled a non working kernel and it seems to have taken my drivers with it!! I am missing my drivers and my text on my screen is very fuzzy and it is hard to make out text but i finally was able to boot into any display by going into another kernel and reinstalling the driver through terminal
 but i can tell some settings are off or it is not enabled or this is a fallback driver.
[12:29] <Psil0Cybin> can someone please help me
[12:29] <popassy> !help
[12:29] <YokoBR> lotuspsychje, NO WAY! I use linux 24/7. It's not for me, it's for my girlfriend's aunt.
[12:29] <popassy> !give Psil0Cybin help
[12:29] <popassy> !help Psil0Cybin
[12:30] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what kernel exactly did you remove? and how did you remvoe it?
[12:30] <popassy> Psil0Cybin: the msg from ubottu was for you
[12:30] <Psil0Cybin> I understand but i need this laptop for work and someone told me to remove the old kernel and now that I did! I cannot get into any kernel.
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> YokoBR: there's a win7 usb creator for ubuntu
[12:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: I removed it from synap package manager I found the kernel I did not need, the headers and the kernel it self
[12:30] <Psil0Cybin> and I removed it
[12:30] <popassy> what other package manager other than ubuntu software centre exists? i forgot the tname
[12:30] <Psil0Cybin> but It said it removed a graphic driver for that specific kernel
[12:30] <popassy> oh synaptic. thanks Psil0Cybin haha
[12:31] <Psil0Cybin> so i selected okay,
[12:31] <Psil0Cybin> but now it seems like it is all gone.
[12:31] <Psil0Cybin> so
[12:31] <Psil0Cybin> now what i did was go into terminal
[12:31] <Psil0Cybin> reinstall driver.....but when i finally got into my display and GUI
[12:31] <Psil0Cybin> all the text looks fuzzy
[12:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you boot a live cd and chroot in and pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections
[12:32] <Psil0Cybin> i go to additional drivers, I see CedarTail drm driver in DKMS format
[12:32] <Psil0Cybin> is grayed out
[12:32] <YokoBR> hmmm found this> http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/02/create-windows-7-startup-usb-from.html
[12:32] <Psil0Cybin> so when I click install, it gives me Sorry, installation of this driver failed.Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> YokoBR: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/winusb-create-bootable-windows-installer-usb-in-ubuntu-linux/
[12:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what gpus are on the laptop?
[12:32] <Psil0Cybin> 2014-01-03 07:28:15,722 DEBUG: querying driver db <jockey.detection.OpenPrintingDriverDB instance at 0x96c68ac> about HardwareID('modalias', 'acpi:SYN1B20:SYN1B00:SYN0002:PNP0F13:')
[12:32] <Psil0Cybin> 2014-01-03 07:28:28,976 WARNING: modinfo for module cedarview_gfx failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module cedarview_gfx
[12:32] <Psil0Cybin> 2014-01-03 07:28:28,977 WARNING: /sys/module/cedarview_gfx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind cedarview_gfx driver
[12:33] <Psil0Cybin> Intel somthing rather it is an Acer Aspire One
[12:33] <Psil0Cybin> 300$ laptop
[12:33] <Psil0Cybin> it used the cedarview-tail
[12:33] <Psil0Cybin> perfectly fine
[12:33] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: atom cpu?
[12:33] <Psil0Cybin> before I uninstalled a non working kernel :'(
[12:33] <Psil0Cybin> yea yea
[12:33] <Psil0Cybin> intel atom
[12:33] <Psil0Cybin> N2600
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: I'd suggest you use apt-get to remove old kernels
[12:34] <Psil0Cybin> well i will from now on....
[12:34] <Psil0Cybin> i never in my mind thought this would happen.
[12:34] <Psil0Cybin> I thought it would remove kernal and headers only.
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the gpu driver should be built into the kernel so not sure why dkms is getting involved in it. what kernel are you using now?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: were the old kernels causing an issue?
[12:35] <Psil0Cybin> 3.2.0-58-generic-pae
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: WERE, not which...
[12:35] <Psil0Cybin> I was trying to remove a upstream kernel or something someone suggested to try to debug an issue, but it never worked
[12:35] <Psil0Cybin> so it was just wasting space
[12:35] <Psil0Cybin> so i attempted to remove it, without success.
[12:35] <Psil0Cybin> it is gone completely
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: so, was it making an issue on the system?
[12:36] <Psil0Cybin> but so are all my graphic drivers...
[12:36] <Psil0Cybin> it just caused a black screen that kernel, never booted.
[12:36] <Psil0Cybin> but for some reason took cedarview driver with it
[12:36] <Psil0Cybin> when I uninstalled it.
[12:36] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you pastebin the outpu of: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[12:36] <Macrotus> Hmm... I'm using Ubuntu in Finnish. Any idea how I could make the search work for English too? All guides online are in English so it would be easy to just search with English terms and not to try to figure out what they might be in Finnish.
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: someone helped you this morning to go back to your original kernel for eepc, did that not work?
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the drivers built into the kernel
[12:37] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6684269/
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: can you boot an older kernel?
[12:37] <TomyWork> where can i find a list of archive signing keys for ubuntu?
[12:37] <Psil0Cybin> lotuspsychje: nope
[12:37] <TomyWork> (precise and raring, for instance)
[12:38] <Psil0Cybin> ActionParsnip: the only kernel i can boot into now is the oldest kernel
[12:38] <Psil0Cybin> and only if i restart my computer 4 times
[12:38] <Psil0Cybin> in a row
[12:38] <SaberX01> Macrotus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> TomyWork: there isnt a list, raring is EOL in a matter of weeks
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> TomyWork: if you are getting GPG errors, I can give a comand to import it based on the 16 character hex ID
[12:39] <TomyWork> I just need the key fingerprints
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> TomyWork: for what?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> Psil0Cybin: can you tell us wich eeepc that is?
[12:40] <Macrotus> What a great feeling to have this working.. =)
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> TomyWork: when you install Ubuntu, they signing keys are instated by default
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Macrotus
[12:41] <TomyWork> i'm looking for the equivalent of this page: https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html
[12:42] <Psil0Cybin> or 5 or 6
[12:42] <Psil0Cybin> it eventually boots into it
[12:42] <Psil0Cybin> sorry I was confused, ActionParsnip sorry I am currently in kernel 3.2.0-58-generic-pae. and I am having problems now with 3.2.0-58-generic-pae.
[12:42] <Psil0Cybin> same kernel
[12:42] <Psil0Cybin> but the display is off...
[12:42] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <Psil0Cybin> and the driver that was enabled within additional drivers, is now disabled. I only get into the GUI randomly.
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you try installing linux-image-3.5.0-45-generic and see if it makes a difference
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> TomyWork: the equivelant is put in to a default ubuntu install. So why would you need to manually download or add them
[12:42] <TomyWork> i dont want to manually add or download them
[12:43] <TomyWork> i want to know them
[12:43] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: but my kernel was working before perfectly fine, why would I change kernels? just because I messed up something with a driver?
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: the keyserver is a MASSIVE database
[12:43] <Psil0Cybin> would I not be able to undo, what I did..and fix the driver, get back on the kernel that was working flawlessly
[12:43] <Psil0Cybin> then switching kernels and dealing with new problems?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: doyou still have the debs in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:44] <TomyWork> hitsujiTMO, i just need the ubuntu archive signing keys for precise and raring
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: again a massive database. there's soooo many mirrors
[12:44] <Psil0Cybin> ActionParsnip: yea
[12:44] <Psil0Cybin> it looks like i do
[12:45] <Psil0Cybin> how can i find the cedarview deb for the kernel I am using?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: bonus
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: I'd just reinstall the packages for the kernel you are using
[12:45] <TomyWork> hitsujiTMO, the mirrors have the same packages and signatures
[12:45] <Psil0Cybin> so I am very new, how would I go about this...
[12:46] <Macrotus> Can I download Chrome from the system somehow or do I need to download it from Google's website?
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin> I am nervous to do this lol
[12:46] <TomyWork> i already have the keys for debian, which also has a large amount of mirrors
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin> if I am on the kernel I want to fix, I would have to downgrade?
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin> in order to do this?
[12:46] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: the keys are for the trepos not the packages
[12:46] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: if you go sudo apt-get update: you get an error ending in something like: public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: you can download it from the web in .deb
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:47] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: you can add in the pubkey for that signature with the command: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 16126D3A3E5C1192
[12:47] <Macrotus> lotuspsychje Yea, quite many of the programs can be installed from the terminal, that's why I asked
[12:47] <TomyWork> hitsujiTMO, i'm not getting errors, i dont want to add keys, i just want to know the keys, is that so hard?
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> Macrotus: apt-cache search chrome
[12:48] <SaberX01> Macrotus, unless you need Chrome specifically, instlaling chromium-browser from the repos' is probably ur best bet.
[12:49] <Psil0Cybin> ActionParsnip: so before I run that command
[12:49] <Psil0Cybin> do I need to go on another kernel to reinstall the kernel I am using?
[12:49] <Macrotus> SaberX01 Hmm.. I'm just reading what's the difference between the two
[12:49] <Psil0Cybin> but if I remoed the driver
[12:49] <Psil0Cybin> how will it repackage something ActionParsnip ?
[12:49] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Chrome is closed source, Chromium is the Open source version.
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: there's no public list of the keys because there are so many. Its like asking for a page with every public twitter post ever. you need to request a pubkry by its signature
[12:50] <Macrotus> SaberX01 That's the conclusion I arrived =)
[12:50] <SaberX01> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser  ..
[12:50] <Macrotus> Downloading from the app store =)
[12:50] <TomyWork> hitsujiTMO,  and i'm telling you, you are wrong
[12:51] <Psil0Cybin> ActionParsnip: I am reinstalling the kernel, would this be the only way to fix this issue
[12:51] <Psil0Cybin> I am scared this might not solve my problem
[12:51] <SaberX01> Macrotus, is your not well tuned to the CLI yet, the Software Center is a good resource.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: its one way
[12:52] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: then since you know better then you should know where to find the list
[12:52] <SaberX01> Macrotus, the same for Updates, the Update Manager is nice for those new to the terminal.
[12:53] <Macrotus> SaberX01, I'm not really new, I haven't used Ubuntu for a few years so I don't remember that all. Well, that makes me quite new
[12:54] <Psil0Cybin> ActionParsnip: I am stuck on this action
[12:54] <Psil0Cybin> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-58-generic-pae /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-58-generic-pae
[12:54] <TomyWork> hitsujiTMO, what kind of flawed logic is that?
[12:54] <Psil0Cybin> could this be because I am on this kernel? although I was able to build the non header file fine?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: may take a while
[12:54] <SaberX01> Macrotus, You'll pick it up quick. Just try to avoid PPA's an dpkg .deb installs until your comfortable with things, as they can get you in a jam if your not careful.
[12:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay cool ty.
[12:55] <Psil0Cybin> ActionParsnip: thank you for replying man, I am just freaking out...I hate thinking I can go to sleep when really I messed something up I do not want to deal with later.
[12:55] <Psil0Cybin> aka few hours when I go to work
[12:55] <Macrotus> =)
[12:56] <Psil0Cybin> although it is still just stuck on that action, i really hope this is not because i am using that kernel version while doing this
[12:56] <Macrotus> Do you guys recommend Thunderbird for email or do you prefer something else?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Macrotus: use what you like
[12:57] <cfhowlett> Macrotus, ^^^ this
[12:57] <SaberX01> Macrotus, TBird or Evolution both pretty good.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Macrotus: you are using an OS based on choice and freedom, yet you ask a room of strangers what to use and think?
[12:57] <SaberX01> Evo has gpg integrated I think, TBird gotta add a plugin, but works well.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Macrotus: smacks of Microsoft, don't you think?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> Macrotus, AND you expect that they have the same needs/user profile/experience/tastes as you ... :)
[12:58] <TomyWork> hitsujiTMO, to be precise, i'm looking for the ftp master keys
[12:58] <Macrotus> Well if most of you don't like Thunderbird I would think there's something wrong with it. I have been using Outlook for ten years so...
[12:58] <pahaloom> Macrotus, one would have to try each one, for email messaging pine or mutt was my favorite until I got away from text terminal. Have used Evolution and Thunderbird both, have no preference
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Macrotus: most people dont use Ubuntu, is there something wrong with it?
[12:58] <TomyWork> the same kind of key that's listed on the debian page i listed
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !ymmv|Macrotus,
[12:59] <Psil0Cybin> ActionParsnip: I l O V E y O U
[12:59] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Here's a review of 5 common ones for *Nix: http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/applications/best-linux-email-client-5-reviewed-and-rated-1041236
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: yay
[12:59] <Psil0Cybin> I LOVE YOU
[12:59] <Psil0Cybin> ACTUALLY
[12:59] <Psil0Cybin> you taught me so many things ty!
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: dude stick to apt-get for removing old kernels.
[13:00] <Psil0Cybin> 100%!!!
[13:00] <Psil0Cybin> no other way
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: why are you using synaptic?
[13:00] <Psil0Cybin> this is madness lmao
[13:00] <TomyWork> s/listed/linked/
[13:00] <Psil0Cybin> becasue someone told me to on here, aaaaaaaages ago!
[13:00] <Psil0Cybin> :P
[13:00] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:00] <Psil0Cybin> everyone has different methods
[13:00] <Psil0Cybin> but some methods are good for people who get them better, you know...and I guess I was not careful enough and educated enough
[13:00] <Psil0Cybin> to think that something that small would effect all kernels....it really confused me.
[13:01] <Psil0Cybin> I am so so so sorry guys, for freaking out in here, I owe everyone beers on me =D
[13:01] <gordonjcp> Psil0Cybin: there are many things in Linux that are the equivalent of a chainsaw without a bar brake
[13:01] <gordonjcp> you have to be careful, because it's easy to cut your leg off with them
[13:01] <SaberX01> LOL ..
[13:01] <Psil0Cybin> well gordonjcp to be honestly, I get reminded this. every single day.
[13:01] <Psil0Cybin> I forget
[13:01] <Psil0Cybin> that is my problem
[13:01] <gordonjcp> however, if you actually *want* to cut your leg off, they'll do the job just fine and not get in your way
[13:02] <Psil0Cybin> I think that things are very quickly reversable, when they are not.
[13:02] <gordonjcp> nope!
[13:02] <Psil0Cybin> especially if you forget what you do, you are done!
[13:02] <Psil0Cybin> you need to keep everything in mind :P
[13:02] <Psil0Cybin> alright ActionParsnip just so this NEVER happens again! can you just explain to me, so what dpkg command
[13:02] <Psil0Cybin> showed all the debs left over on my machine?
[13:02] <pahaloom> Psil0Cybin, I doubt you would pass Turing test
[13:03] <Psil0Cybin> pahaloom: I doubt I would pass as well. My ego is destroyed.
[13:03] <Psil0Cybin> :)
[13:03] <Macrotus> I like when applications start to save their data to servers on the internet. When I logged with my Google account to Chromium I got all the bookmarks, themes, plugins and history =)
[13:03] <gordonjcp> Macrotus: :-)
[13:03] <Psil0Cybin> here i thought i knew sommmeeething about linux, honestly guys...I learn this every day I could use linux for 25 years straight
[13:03] <Psil0Cybin> I still know nothing
[13:04] <Psil0Cybin> too much to learn :)
[13:04] <Psil0Cybin> I love it, but hate it at the same time
[13:04] <Psil0Cybin> like my gf.
[13:04] <Psil0Cybin> ha
[13:05] <BluesKaj> never stop learning or you'll fade away
[13:05] <Macrotus> Wow, I entered my email address in Thunderbird and clicked next. It got the right settings instantly! Outlook has never managed to do that :D
[13:05] <SaberX01> Psil0Cybin, This is your friend for hold packages back from updates: echo ``<package> hold'' | dpkg --set-selections Put <package> on hold (command line method)
[13:06] <Psil0Cybin> thank you so much SaberX01. I really appreciate all the advice you guys give me, now that I am more calm.
[13:06] <Psil0Cybin> as you can tell.
[13:06] <Psil0Cybin> no joke, I feel stress off my shoulders.
[13:06] <Psil0Cybin> I might need to go out for a ciggie, phew.
[13:07] <SaberX01> Macrotus, works with most of the popular mail giants, yah, gm, goog  etc. Can have all you accounts on one client too.
[13:08] <njsg> OTOH the thunderbird interface is extremely harder and slower to use if you just want to configure a non-major provider account
[13:08] <njsg> and, to be honest, it's not like it's hard to get a *small* list of the *very few* settings you need to configure the account
[13:09] <Macrotus> SaberX01 My email provider is a small Finnish company =D Still got the right data
[13:09] <SaberX01> Cool thing about Open Source and well *Nix in general, is the freedom of choice.
[13:10] <njsg> Macrotus: perhaps they just use a sane set of settings
[13:10] <njsg> I'd not be surprised if they got my school email wrong, though, as the email is completely different from the Exchange login
[13:11] <Macrotus> This seems to take long. It's been downloading messages for a couple of minutes now and it has got less than 100. 2000 to go!
[13:11] <SaberX01> Isn't TBird the default Ubuntu Desktop Mail Client?
[13:11] <jhutchins> Is there an easy way to see which kernels which release currently has?
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: is /var/lib/apt/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg what you're looking for?
[13:12] <OutOfBound1> hi everyone. Anyone encountered this: After an update of the kernel, my server with lvm+luks doesn't boot anymore. I can enter the passphrase on the serial console, but then get a message that cryptroot can't find /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root and drops me to initramfs. From there I can mount and chroot into /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root without trouble.
[13:12] <njsg> Macrotus: hm, are you using IMAP or POP?
[13:12] <SaberX01> Macrotus, Did you setup IMAP or POP3 ?
[13:12] <Macrotus> Pop3
[13:12] <SaberX01> snap! :-)
[13:12] <njsg> Macrotus: because a *full* download should just happen for pop
[13:12] <njsg> Macrotus: oh, I hope you actually want to have the messages locally
[13:12] <Macrotus> Yea njsg, I want them to be on my computer
[13:13] <njsg> then it may take some time, depends on your link, I guess
[13:13] <haohappy> what messages
[13:13] <Macrotus> 100 down so should be a problem in my end if the email provider is sending
[13:13] <Macrotus> should not be a problem in my end*
[13:13] <SaberX01> and attachment size etc
[13:13] <njsg> snrk, I remember complaining too much about foreign servers such as google having problems providing content fast enough
[13:14] <Macrotus> Well it's just the initial setup, then it's fast.
[13:14] <njsg> I'd go for getmail for such a setup, but I guess I've moved from thunderbird a *long* time ago
[13:14] <njsg> perhaps getmail+local IMAP
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> TomyWork: is this for a mirror or for signing packages?
[13:15] <njsg> that always looked nice to me as an universal solution, I can use any client
[13:15] <njsg> although now I'm on remote IMAP
[13:15] <Macrotus> Anyone else use WhatPulse? Interesting how much people use computers: http://whatpulse.org/whatpulse-in-2013.png
[13:16]  * tu_ 
[13:17] <SaberX01> Never seen it before.
[13:17] <njsg> Macrotus: never heard of it
[13:18] <Macrotus> njsg: Count's your clicks, keystrokes and network usage. It also shows heatmap of you clicking and keyboard usage etc
[13:18] <njsg> counts my clicks -> that'd be quite useless :-D
[13:18] <tu_> hahah
[13:19] <Macrotus> njsg: not using mouse?
[13:19] <tu_> how can i speak to a robot
[13:19] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[13:20] <tu_> hey you!am i speaking?
[13:20] <totesmuhgoats> tu_: yes
[13:20] <SaberX01> tu_, try machine code :-)
[13:21] <SaberX01> Anyways I'm out of here for today, CU all tomorrow. Don't break your new box Macrotus :-)
[13:22] <njsg> Macrotus: it's really not something I use a lot; the only use is maybe mostly to select and paste text, and once in a while to click on links on the web
[13:22] <Macrotus> Thanks for your help ServerX01! See you!
[13:22] <njsg> even then, I don't use the mouse that much on the web, so...
[13:22] <Macrotus> njsg: You could use tab + enter for links =D
[13:22] <OutOfBound1> Anyone encountered this: After an update of the kernel, my server with lvm+luks doesn't boot anymore. I can enter the passphrase on the serial console, but then get a message that cryptroot can't find /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root and drops me to initramfs. From there I can mount and chroot into /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root without trouble.
[13:23] <tu_> ubot3
[13:23] <tu_> dududu
[13:24] <tu_> jjj
[13:24] <njsg> Macrotus: I use hints
[13:25] <njsg> Macrotus: I can't find a good webpage for reference on this, but "hints" is what some browsers call to text/numbers you use to select links
[13:26] <Macrotus> njsg ah..
[13:26] <njsg> esim. http://5digits.org/img/screenshots/dactyl-hints-all.png
[13:27] <Macrotus> njsg That looks weird =D
[13:28] <njsg> not at all
[13:28] <njsg> perhaps you're just not used to it :-D
[13:28] <Macrotus> Yea
[13:28] <njsg> it's kind of the interface I'm used to see to follow links for half a decade now maybe?
[13:28] <njsg> elinks, conkeror, pentadactyl, vimperator, all of them have something of this kind
[13:29] <Macrotus> Everyone has their own things
[13:34] <Guest4024> hi there i need help in installing java. jst downloaded jdk7.
[13:34] <Guest4024> any 1 there?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Guest4024, sorry, no more than a few thousand online at the moment ...
[13:34] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:34] <cfhowlett> !java
[13:35] <njsg> Guest4024: don't download, install using the package manager
[13:35] <cfhowlett> Guest40is24, ^^^ th
[13:35] <njsg> although I guess that if you want to install some non-standard java (say, oracle), you may need to download from them, yeah...
[13:36] <njsg> oracle (on whose unspecified behavior some developers still rely) used IcedTea as an excuse to say distros didn't need redistributable packages anymore
[13:37] <Guest4024> seems no 1 .....
[13:49] <nitk> how can i block the incoming packet coming from any specific ip using ufw
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: as in ?: sudo ufw deny from 127.0.0.1
[13:52] <StFS-web> Hi. I'm having problems installing java using the webupd8 repository. The java installer downloads a binary from the web and I think that's causing some problems since I need to use a proxy. However, I've set the http_proxy and https_proxy environment variables
[13:53] <nitk> hitsujiTMO,  actually i want to block packet coming from specific ip
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: replace 127.0.0.1 with the ip you want to block
[13:54] <Sr199820> Hey
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: that will block all incoming traffic from that ip
[13:55] <nitk> hitsujiTMO,: i tried that one bt it is still working that means it is not blocking.
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: did you enable ufw?
[13:56] <streulma> hello, before I buy a new disk, I ask it here: I need a bigger disk. Now I have an OCZ SSD. Is the 500 GB WD5000BPKX Black disk good?
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: can you pastebin the output of: sudo ufw status
[13:57] <llutz> streulma: ask in #hardware
[13:57] <llutz> streulma: ask in ##hardware
[13:57] <nitk> hitsujiTMO,  yes i enabled and also in status it is showing...
[13:59] <trijntje> how can I see which repository (main, universe, etc) a given package is in?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> TriJetScud, apt-cache policy packagename
[13:59] <cfhowlett> in a terminal
[13:59] <hggdh> trijntje: apt-cache policy <package>
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: you make have a conflicting rule ahead of it as once a rule is matched the others will not be evaluated
[14:00] <trijntje> hggdh: thanks!
[14:00] <streulma> man! Ubuntu runs good on this Macbook, no issues :)
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: can you pastebin the output of: sudo ufw status                   so we can see if you have conflicting rules
[14:02] <nitk> hitsujiTMO,  where will i send that output??
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> !paste | nitk
[14:05] <Sr199820> !!!
[14:06] <nitk> To                         Action      From
[14:06] <nitk> --                         ------      ----
[14:06] <nitk> Anywhere                   ALLOW       10.3.0.8
[14:06] <nitk> 20                         ALLOW       Anywhere
[14:06] <nitk> 21                         ALLOW       Anywhere
[14:06] <FloodBot1> nitk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> guys, ubuntu 12.04.3, intel video, Google Earth won't show photo's -- hint & tips? http://imagebin.org/284977
[14:07] <nitk> sory sir i am new to ubuntu ...
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: use paste.ubuntu.com
[14:09] <ansel> hi
[14:10] <ansel> yeah i have joined unbuntu 13.10
[14:10] <ansel> which version do u have
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> ansel  great, this is the support channel
[14:11] <ansel> thanks monkeydust
[14:11] <ansel> where do u live ?
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> !ot | ansel
[14:12] <ansel> ok ubottu i got it.. sorry
[14:12] <Upperdeck> salut , je cherche une personne pour m'aider a faire des truc sur un site web comme installé un Live chat, et d'autre truc en php , merci, (je paye par paypal)
[14:12] <ansel> hey use english pls
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> !fr | Upperdeck
[14:12] <ansel> hey how to install backtracker on ubuntu 13.10
[14:12] <sac> guys! I've a user "sara:x:1001:1002::/incoming:/sbin/nologin" sshd_config http://nopaste.dk/p71413 and the user home folder is "/sftp/sara" which is root:root 755, sftp -vvv sara@localhost output:http://nopaste.dk/p71414
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> ansel  backtrack is not supported here and i guess it's no longer maintained
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> !backtrack | ansel
[14:13] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, sry sir i am new to ubuntu i dont know about pastebin
[14:13] <ansel> ok thanku uboottu
[14:14] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, in the last msg..you can see the status of my  ufw status
[14:14] <ansel> could and one send me each and every keyboard shortcut list for ubuntu 13.10
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: yes but i cannot see the rules order. what is the ip you are wishing to block? is it by anychance  10.3.0.8?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> nitk  open thins link and paste your information in it -- then copy/paste the new link here in the channel http://imagebin.org/284977
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> ansel: hold down the super key
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> ansel  this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> nitk   this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:16] <ansel> hisuji: i know it.. but it doesn't show all keys..i need each and every shortcut keys
[14:16] <pulsar78> linux swap partition, how do i determine its size ?
[14:17] <ansel> ?
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> pulsar78: lsblk
[14:17] <nitk> hitsujiTMO,  yes from 10.3.0.8
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: the first rule is to allow all traffic from that ip. you must delete that rule if you want to deny it
[14:18] <nitk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6684789/
[14:18] <pulsar78> hitsujiTMO: maybe i was somewhat unclear, i need to setup a new swap, but what do i base its size on ?
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> pulsar78: how mch ram do you have?
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> pulsar78  if you want to suspend alot, twice the ram size is adviced
[14:19] <pulsar78> no suspend, its a small server
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> pulsar78: how much ram?
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> pulsar78: and what kind of services are you running?
[14:20] <pulsar78> 512 for ubuntu, 64 for java and 2048 for the xmx, so that would be 2624
[14:20] <pulsar78> hitsujiTMO: just a java based backup product
[14:20] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, which connect
[14:21] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6684789/
[14:21] <codeclone> lkfgl
[14:21] <codeclone> gflgkofhkotp
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> pulsar78: 1-2gb would prob be suitable then
[14:21] <pulsar78> hitsujiTMO: thanks, but i need to know how that is calculated / based on ..
[14:23] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, are u there
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> pulsar78: well thats based an a guestimation. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq might give you a good idea of what to consider when choosing a swap
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: so 10.3.0.16 is what you want to block?
[14:24] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, yes
[14:24] <donc3> Hi all! I have a problem
[14:24] <codeclone> zhangjiujie
[14:24] <codeclone> *********************************************************************************************
[14:24] <sac> guys! I've a user "sara:x:1001:1002::/incoming:/sbin/nologin" sshd_config http://nopaste.dk/p71413 and the user home folder is "/sftp/sara" which is all the way root:root 755, sftp -vvv sara@localhost output: write failed : broken pipe connection reset by peer http://nopaste.dk/p71414
[14:24] <donc3> I have upgrade my ubuntu, and I don't know why
[14:24] <donc3> I cannot change the sound
[14:24] <donc3> and I cannot enter into the sound preferences
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: how are you testing exactly?
[14:25] <donc3> if I try to enter into the sound preferences it keeps loading all the time
[14:25] <donc3> can somebody help me??
[14:26] <pulsar78> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> donc3  open a terminal and type    alsamixer    if you see mm, go there and hit m
[14:26] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, after executing "sudo ufw reject out to  10.3.0.8 " i am trying to acces that website from browser then it is showing unable to connect
[14:27] <donc3> MokeyDust okay I have done it
[14:27] <ansel> hi
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: you have rules: 20 ALLOW Anywhere and 21 ALLOW Anywhere that are superseding the rule Anywhere DENY 10.3.0.16
[14:28] <donc3> MokeyDust but it doesn't work yet
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> donc3  in any application?
[14:29] <donc3> I cannot enter into sound preferences in system preferences
[14:29] <codeclone> e
[14:29] <ansel> hi
[14:29] <codeclone> 214
[14:29] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, so what to do sir
[14:30] <ansel> hi
[14:30] <donc3> MokeyDust and I neither can't change the volume into the desktop
[14:30] <donc3> MokeyDust if I click into the voice icon into the desktop bar it appears an empty square
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> donc3  and you do have a sound card?
[14:31] <donc3> MokeyDust yes I have it
[14:31] <donc3> MokeyDust the sound works perfectly
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: remove the superseding rules. then add them again after. you need to be cause in what order you add rules in
[14:31] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, ok
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> s/cause/careful
[14:32] <gopi> Hi can any one help me?
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: a good rule of thumb is to speficy specific deny rules first, then specific allow rules then the default rules(almost always deny)
[14:33] <trijntje> gopi: sure, ask away
[14:33] <donc3> MokeyDust what can I do?
[14:33] <gopi> When all the time opening software center, its not responding  and closed it.
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> donc3  did it work before?
[14:34] <jhutchins> gopi: It's a big, innefficient program.  Give it time.
[14:34] <N07aN0o8> @gopi use synaptic instead
[14:34] <donc3> yes! before I did an upgrade
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: can you run software-center from the terminal and pastebin any console output please
[14:35] <gopi> after reopening it opens, but if i try to install more than 4 files then again not responding and closed it
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> donc3  from to ?
[14:35] <gopi> what to do?
[14:35] <donc3> from the daily repositories
[14:35] <donc3> MokeyDust really I don't know what I did!!
[14:35] <donc3> :S
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> donc3  daily repositories? what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:36] <gopi> This is the result
[14:36] <gopi> 2014-01-03 20:06:07,692 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.app - INFO - setting up proxy 'None'
[14:36] <gopi> 2014-01-03 20:06:08,282 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - Could not get usefulness from server, no username in config file
[14:36] <gopi> 2014-01-03 20:06:08,285 - softwarecenter.plugin - INFO - activating plugin '<module 'webapps_activation' from '/usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/plugins/webapps_activation.pyc'>'
[14:36] <gopi> 2014-01-03 20:06:08,291 - softwarecenter.fixme - WARNING - logs to the root logger: '('/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gi/importer.py', 51, 'find_module')'
[14:36] <FloodBot1> gopi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:36] <gopi> 2014-01-03 20:06:08,291 - root - ERROR - Could not find any typelib for LaunchpadIntegration
[14:36] <codeclone> ef
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[14:37] <donc3> MonkeyDust elementary OS Luna \n \l
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> !eos | donc3
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> donc3  that's not supported here, ask the elementary people
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> !elementary | donc3
[14:37] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, how to find that incomming packets are blocked
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: enable logging and check the logs: sudo ufw logging on
[14:38] <gopi> sorry, i'm new to IRC,,,,ok, i'll use ...
[14:38] <gopi> can you see that?
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: yup
[14:39] <nitk> hipitihop, ok after what to do
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> guys, ubuntu 12.04.3, intel video, Google Earth won't show photo's -- hint & tips? http://imagebin.org/284977
[14:40] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, after enabling log information how to check the incoming packets
[14:40] <benim> hi guys, have all websites' ssl certificates expired?
[14:40] <trijntje> benim: I'm gonna guess that didn't happen ;)
[14:40] <gopi> I pasted ... then what to do?
[14:40] <trijntje> gopi: tell us the url of the paste
[14:41] <gopi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6684893/
[14:41] <trijntje> benim: maybe someone is messing with your connection, don't log in to important stuf
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: ufw should log to somewhere in /var/log read the log there to see what its doing as
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> benim: check the time on your pc
[14:42] <gopi> Did you get it?
[14:42] <benim> hitsujiTMO, oh, interesting idea, thank you
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> benim: if its 1970 then you may have a deceased bios battery
[14:43] <benim> hitsujiTMO, ah, damn it, it says it's 2015 on my comp ) thanks you
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> benim: np
[14:43] <benim> thank you*
[14:43] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, yes i opened that log file but...i didn't understand nothing from that
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: can you pastebin the log
[14:44] <devurandom> Hello!
[14:44] <devurandom> Does anyone know how to restore the stock /etc/default/grub file?
[14:45] <devurandom> dpkg -S claims no package owns the file, as does packages.ubuntu.com...
[14:45] <gopi> Please any one help me ...
[14:45] <devurandom> gopi: How long have you been waiting for an answer? And what was your question?
[14:46] <gopi> devurandam : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6684893/
[14:46] <Phuzzy> devurandom: see /usr/share/grub/default/grub
[14:47] <eksip> hi
[14:47] <devurandom> gopi: It's an "u" ;)
[14:47] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes....
[14:47] <llutz> devurandom: its copied/created by one of the grub-postinst files most likely
[14:48] <gopi> my software center is always closing...
[14:48] <gopi> i dont know what to do...
[14:48] <trijntje> gopi: are you on a very old computer? How much RAM etc do you have?
[14:49] <gopi> 2GB ram
[14:49] <gopi> intel dual core processor
[14:49] <trijntje> thats plenty. Well, for starters, you can install another package manager so you can at least install software
[14:50] <gopi> not an old computer... i bought before 3 years only
[14:50] <Phuzzy> gregc2: what terminal emulator is this in?
[14:50] <gregc2> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/wy60.1.html
[14:50] <gregc2> that one
[14:51] <trijntje> do this in a terminal : sudo apt-get install synaptic
[14:51] <devurandom> gopi: I just googled for you. Did you already try "sudo apt-get remove --purge software-center" followed by "sudo apt-get install software-center"?
[14:51] <devurandom> Phuzzy, llutz: Thanks!
[14:51] <gopi> no, i didn't tried.  i'll try and tell you. Thanks devurandom
[14:52] <devurandom> gopi: Run that in a terminal.
[14:52] <gopi> devurandom : ok :-)
[14:53] <gopi> trijntje : thank  you
[14:54] <foxx> hello. whenever i use "fakechroot fakeroot" with deboostrap, the second stage always seems to apply the wrong prefix to symlinks.. i.e.  ls -lah home/foxx/wtf/etc/nologin shows "wtf/etc/nologin -> /home/foxx/wtf/var/lib/initscripts/nologin", so its applying full absolute path to symlinks in second stage rather than "/". any ideas how to stop this behavior from happening?
[14:55] <devurandom> gopi: Generally, you will often be able to fix your problem by looking at the output of the failing program and googling the error message.
[14:55] <Phuzzy> gregc2: reason im asking is that i know that under certain conditions the terminal emulator you run will interpret the DEL kep codes differently
[14:55] <gregc2> hmmm
[14:56] <gopi> devurandom : thank you for given idea. I will do it next
[14:56] <devurandom> gopi: In your case "ERROR - Could not find any typelib for LaunchpadIntegration" seemed very suspicious. Google hat several hits for not starting software-center. The recommendation was always to purge and reinstall and then reboot the computer. From the comments on askubuntu.com it seemed that it worked.
[14:57] <Phuzzy> so if that is a terminal emulator... and not (as i understand the man page) something you run in a terminal, then it could be a "feature" :)
[14:57] <devurandom> gopi: Google results for askubuntu.com, stackoverflow.com and related help-sites are most useful, generally. (Obviously your mileage may vary.)
[14:57] <gopi> From now, i'll contact google search engine first to solve my problems...
[14:57] <gregc2> it is something you run in a terminal via console
[14:57] <gopi> thank you
[14:57] <devurandom> Any time.
[14:57] <Phuzzy> does anyone know of something on the level of Simple-CDD that works for Ubuntu sources?
[14:58] <gregc2> command structure looks like wy60 -t termtype -c telnet address
[14:58] <Phuzzy> gregc2: so what are you running it in? :)
[14:58] <gregc2> standard debian console... after install
[14:58] <devurandom> Thanks again and have a nice day!
[14:59] <Phuzzy> debian console?
[14:59] <gregc2> yeah the console you get when you install debian...
[14:59] <Alinuxfriend> hi
[14:59] <Sr199820> maybe no
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> gregc2: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:00] <ffio_> i have ubuntu 13.04 should i update to 13.10 ? or update would break things ?
[15:00] <gregc2> its squeeze
[15:00] <gregc2> 6.0
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> gregc2: this is ubuntu support. debian support is in #debian
[15:00] <dalit> i have installed xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and now want my system to boot xubuntu session at boot instead of unity
[15:00]  * gregc2 sighs
[15:00] <ffio_> because right now i can't afford to lose time to fix things
[15:00] <dalit> any idea?
[15:01] <abc> hi
[15:01] <dalit> abc : hi
[15:01] <dalit> i have installed xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and now want my system to boot xubuntu session at boot instead of unity
[15:01] <dalit> any idea?
[15:01] <trijntje> ffio_: you could put off updating a while, but don't forget that normal releases are supported for only 9 months
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> ffio_: i'd recommend cloning the system, then performing the upgrade
[15:02] <compdoc> dalit, at the logon screen, is there a drop-down list you can choose your desktop with?
[15:02] <trijntje> ffio_: so the end of support for 13.04 would be sometime this january, after that you will no longer receive any security updates, which is not recommended
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> ffio_: if anything breaks in the upgrade, you can revert to the clone
[15:02] <dalit> compdoc : yes there is
[15:02] <trijntje> what hitsujiTMO says is a good idea
[15:03] <dalit> compdoc : but i want it to log in automatically with xfce
[15:03] <ccha4> hello, I have a nfs mount, is it possible to use this mount as storage for webdav ?
[15:03] <dalit> compdoc : as if i m running xubuntu
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> dalit: lightdm remembers your last session choice.
[15:05] <dalit> so i should not worry for next boot?
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> dalit: if you want autologin use: autologin-user=<YOUR USER>  under [SeatDefaults] in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[15:06] <satisfied_not_a_> Hello, I am sorry if this isn't supposed to be said in this chat, but... *Thank you*. I recently converted from windows to Ubuntu, never had touched Linux in my life and all I heard was horror stories about how stuff is broken and how nothing ever works... but I haven't had a single issue. I found replacements or improvements to every piece of software I used, and I was delighted to find that Ubuntu has a power "repeditive task do-
[15:06] <satisfied_not_a_> er" called the terminal, which I've copy-pasted code into constantly to do all the things I was dreading to do by brute force in windows. (Like organizing my pictures by year and month!, and my music by artist-album-(tracknumber -  song)). So well, I just wanted to come to the offical support channel and say *THANK YOU*, I am a new, and very happy Ubuntu user!
[15:06] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes....
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> dalit: if you've it previously auto logging in then you should be ok
[15:06] <dalit> no i havn't
[15:08] <Guest92769> hello
[15:08] <trijntje> satisfied_not_a_: glad to hear you like using ubuntu!
[15:08] <Guest92769> spig czech?
[15:08] <trijntje> !cz
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> gregc2: wy60 is not in the ubuntu repos. for debian support try #debian
[15:09] <gregc2> it is in the repos. older repos.
[15:09] <gregc2> thanks though for your awesome help... ill keep asking though
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> gregc2: its in the EOL repos. so not supported anymore
[15:09] <gregc2> hey
[15:09] <gregc2> go fuck yourself
[15:09] <compdoc> thats no fun
[15:09] <dalit> hitsujiTMO : got it well and working
[15:09] <nikcsareb> Hi, where should i report evdev Bugs? Launchpad or Freedesktop?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | dalit
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> nikcsareb: whats the bug exactly?
[15:11] <IdleOne> gregc2: Please watch the attitude and language. We like to keep this a family friendly channel.
[15:11] <gregc2> No problem. I will keep asking though.
[15:11] <CatKiller> Keep asking what?
[15:11] <gregc2> exactly
[15:13] <nikcsareb> this weary bugs related to Compaq and Hp's touchpads. They usually have right and left butons under sensitive zone
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> nikcsareb: might be best to post it in launchpad first incase its caused by an ubuntu specific patch
[15:15] <helmut_> hi
[15:15] <dalit> hi
[15:16] <nikcsareb> hitsujiTMO: It seems that manufacturers are using new touchpad hardware. HP Envy and Splitseries
[15:17] <nikcsareb> and also affects to Fedora, SUSE Linux Enterprise and Debian
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> nikcsareb: if its new hardware then maybe try upstream.
[15:19] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes....
[15:20] <hussain> hi is there any one??
[15:21] <dalit> ya we r there , ask?
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> nikcsareb: any such reports to launchpad at least will be pushed upstream tho. so its no harm in reporting in launchpad
[15:21] <hussain> how to find mac of a system??
[15:21] <hussain> dalit
[15:21] <dalit> hussain : u mean mac address?
[15:22] <hussain> ya.
[15:22] <nikcsareb> hitsujiTMO: ok thanks
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> hussain: ifconfig
[15:22] <dalit> hussain : go to network icon on right top corner of desktop
[15:23] <dalit> hussain : click to "add" any type of connection
[15:24] <dalit> hussain : there u will find "Device mac address" , just scroll down to get yours
[15:25] <sayah> Hi, I have a question, I would like to boot an installed ubuntu os using grub4dos, my question is what files dos ubuntu need to start.  Thanks
[15:26] <hussain> dalit: thanks alot..
[15:27] <hussain> dalit: through terminal it give no info about mac...
[15:27] <JohnnyL> Hey, my laptop's wireless breaks down, then i need to enter my admin and then wireless password. is there a way to automate when it loses it's signal?
[15:28] <hitsujiTMO> hussain: ifconfig is the terminal command to get mac info. its listed as HWaddr
[15:29] <hussain> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> JohnnyL: how exactly have you configured your wifi? network manager doesn't normall do this
[15:29] <ffio_> hitsujiTMO: how to clone my ubuntu instance ?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:30] <nikcsareb> hitsujiTMO: I forget to say it isn't a touchpad, it's a click pad
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> ffio_: using clonezilla is probably the easist method
[15:32] <ffio_> hitsujiTMO: ok :)
[15:32] <wachin> Hi to all Ubuntu Developers.
[15:32] <wachin> On my operating system UbuntuSTudio 13.10 is installed Nautilus 3.8.2 and the search feature is not helping me. I ask you to please leave it as it was before in Nautilus 3.4. Consider that only for this reason many people will go to Linux Mint, it is not convenient
[15:33] <BluesKaj> wachin, tell it to #ubuntu-devel
[15:33] <wachin> Thanks BluesKaj
[15:33] <Pici> no...
[15:33] <wachin> I will go
[15:33] <Pici> wachin: Don't do that. -devel is not a complaint channel.
[15:33] <nikcsareb> One more question: which packages should I assign for touchpad-clickpad bugs? xorg, synaptics evdev,...?
[15:34] <Pici> BluesKaj: In the future, please don't do that.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Pici, he's just making a request for consideration
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> wachin: nautilus features would be decided by the gnome devs
[15:35] <BluesKaj> Pici, I don't see the harm in that
[15:35] <Pici> BluesKaj: I do, when everyone who wishes to voice their opinion is funneled to that channel.
[15:36] <BluesKaj> Pici, everyone? , i haven't seen that.. we must agree to diasgree
[15:36] <CatKiller> The topic on Ubuntu-devel is pretty clear though.
[15:36] <CatKiller> It's about future releases of Ubuntu and not app support
[15:37] <CatKiller> They also handle build problems but that's it
[15:37] <niubl> hello, anyone come from china?
[15:37] <CatKiller> !cn | niubl
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> !cn | niubl but there are cn users here too
[15:38] <niubl> !cn
[15:38] <BluesKaj> hmm ,less flexible than #kubuntu-devel then, I'll keep that in mind , Pici , CatKiller
[15:38] <niubl> i am stupid
[15:38] <niubl> for mother an russia!!
[15:39] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: it isn't about flexibility, it is about reporting wish list items/bugs to the appropriate place. In this case launchpad.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> anyone else want to jump on the correction bandwagon, I'm waiting
[15:41] <JohnnyL> also, i can't upgrade to .15
[15:41] <JohnnyL> says it's ignoring it.
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: what is the output of the command please?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> guys, ubuntu 12.04.3, intel video, Google Earth won't show photo's -- hints & tips? http://imagebin.org/284977
[15:44] <JohnnyL> saucy
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: and if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    what driver module is the wifi using?
[15:45] <nikcsareb> hi anyone with a Ralink RT3290? Does Bluetooth work out the box for you?
[15:45] <nikcsareb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1189721
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1642943&page=2
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: env XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 /path/to/google-earth %f
[15:47] <JohnnyL> lshw -C needs a 'class'?!
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> JohnnyL: the class is network
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: and if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    what driver module is the wifi using?
[15:48] <OerHeks> nikcsareb, maybe this askubuntu post is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: like I said earlier...
[15:48] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes....
[15:49] <Pessimist> ActionParsnip, rt2800pci - too bad there is no bluetooth so I had to disable it :)
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue     please
[15:49] <rymate1234> will mir work on my netbook?
[15:49] <rymate1234> it has intel gma 945 graphics
[15:51] <iceroot> rymate1234: #ubuntu+1
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> rymate1234: mir itself might but any compositing wont. You should stick to non compositing Desktop Environments with such a gpu
[15:51] <rymate1234> oh ok
[15:51] <rymate1234> hitsujiTMO: compiz works fine for me
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: its a simple terminal command
[15:52] <gregc2> that really doesnt address my issue
[15:52] <rymate1234> iceroot: pretty sure mir is in the repositories of ubuntu 13.10
[15:52] <rymate1234> and therefore not a #ubuntu+1 issue
[15:52] <JohnnyL> pastie.org/8597368
[15:53] <JohnnyL> ActionParsnip: ^
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: it wil help me to locate bugs etc, can you run the command and give the output please
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> rymate1234: xmir as in unity-system-compositor is in the repos yes. From my experience with gma 3d acceleration is so poor that i generally describe it as non existent. Many 3d commands become cpu bound and so slow that that the experince degrades substantially
[15:55] <xcommander> Hello all
[15:55] <xcommander> Anyone out there?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9kfix.conf > /dev/null
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: reboot to test
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: it's already been established that he's running Debian 6
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: its not a direct fix
[15:56] <iceroot> rymate1234: mir is for sure not in the repos, only xmir
[15:56] <gregc2> what do you even mean by that
[15:56] <rymate1234> iceroot: my mistake then
[15:57] <JohnnyL> ActionParsnip: what does that do?
[15:57] <iceroot> rymate1234: no problem
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: if we can see what release you are using, we can look for bugs to see if it is a known issue
[15:57] <rymate1234> i thought xmir ran off mir
[15:57]  * gregc2 sighs
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: it adds an option to the kernel module, making it act differently
[15:57] <gregc2> Thanks for your help, but thats not what im asking
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: maybe but I am asking
[15:57] <llutz> ActionParsnip: scroll back to 15:00 and 15:09 ...
[15:57] <jcyangzh> hi all, I am compiling gnome-sharp from source, but failed with 'no package libpanelapplet-2.0' found, but apt-get search does not help.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> llutz: I'm GMT :)
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  google-earth photo's, not better, but tnx
[15:57] <gregc2> youre free to ask.
[15:58] <xcommander> Are these chats encrypted or must I install a module, or add-on, to make them that way?
[15:58] <llutz> ActionParsnip: thats utc/gmt
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: then how can I suggest solutions when I have no details
[15:58]  * gregc2 shakes his head
[15:58] <popey> iceroot: yes, mir is in the repo.
[15:58] <popey> iceroot: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/libmirserver7
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: its a simple request
[15:59] <wachin> Pici: Very Late Pici, I wrote to them and they said I should not have added written there
[15:59] <xcommander> o.o Can some at least respond to me so I know this damn chat is working? Very frustrating being ignored.
[15:59] <gregc2> Yes, that it is.
[15:59] <wachin> hitsujiTMO: Do you know how I can write to gnome-devs
[15:59] <andyfiedish> xcommander: hold up. this chat is not encrypted
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: if you canrun it and give the output. I can advise / search for guides and fixes for your issue
[16:00] <llutz> xcommander: using ssl-connection is all you can do. irc isn't encrypted by default and this channel is logged t the public aswell
[16:00] <gregc2> Thanks for your help. I will continue else where.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: so you are really holding yourself back.
[16:00] <xcommander> Thanks guys!
[16:00] <xcommander> Was jsut curious
[16:00] <xcommander> just*
[16:00] <JohnnyL> ActionParsnip: the wireless is working and has been for hours. still do it?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: I thought you said it was bad...?
[16:01] <JohnnyL> no i said every couple of hours the connection dies.
[16:01] <andyfiedish> xcommander: there's a lot going on in this channel so people can't always answer, and if they don't know they won't answer at all :) welcome to #ubuntu
[16:01] <JohnnyL> so while its still bad, it still kinda works.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: worth a try, keep it in the holster :), its easy to undo. Delete the file created thenreboot
[16:01] <JohnnyL> but if this gets rid of that, or automates it i'm all for it.
[16:02] <xcommander> Thanks for the welcoming.
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> wachin: feature request in lauchpad for gnome will be pushed upstream to gnome devs. Also gnome have their own irc server where you might be of more specific help: https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/GettingInTouch/IRC?action=show&redirect=GnomeIrcChannels#List_of_IRC_Channels I would suggest starting with the #gnome channel if you wish to try there
[16:02] <andyfiedish> xcommander: if you want more privacy, freenode does support the tor network
[16:03] <wachin> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for your request
[16:03] <JohnnyL> here is also something weird with permissions. if I use a non admin 'john' account. weird things like /usr/share/applications file permissions and firefox the package (ftp version works) won't work.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: because the user doesnt have access, as it is not root
[16:03] <Pici> JohnnyL: What do you mean by "won't work"?
[16:03] <JohnnyL> yeah, i had to manually chmod and chgrp.
[16:03] <JohnnyL> it crashes.
[16:03] <JohnnyL> i opted to send mozilla the crash log
[16:04] <JohnnyL> thats when i try to start it , i get an error dialog.
[16:04] <Guest48607> hi there can any1 help me with installing jdk
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest48607: as in oracle java?
[16:04] <JohnnyL> ftp downloaded version works great.
[16:04] <JohnnyL> i t smells like permissions problems too.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest48607: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[16:04] <Pici> JohnnyL: How did you create the user?
[16:05] <Guest48607> Action:yeah jdk 7
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> JohnnyL: from the main account can you pastebin the output of: groups              you should never chmod or chgrp anything in /usr/share
[16:05] <craigbass1976> I'm on 12.04, and trying to hook up to my samsung phone.  The directions here: http://shkspr.mobi/blog/2012/01/connecting-samsung-ics-to-ubuntu-using-mtp/  got me hooked up, but I'm getting some duplicate directories, and that's where my pictures are.  I can't see them.
[16:05] <JohnnyL> at install with whatever interface it uses.
[16:05] <JohnnyL> then i set is up so that it autologins in without a pw to that account.
[16:06] <JohnnyL> makes sense it's permssions. my other ubuntu installation i use the assigned admin account and everything works out of the box.
[16:06] <Pici> JohnnyL: What groups is the user in?
[16:06] <hitsujiTMO> JohnnyL: can you paste the output of the command: groups
[16:06] <JohnnyL> hitsujiTMO: ok
[16:07] <nemo> So. I have ubuntu in a VM here, and don't want to have to set it up too much off default settings, to keep it similar to the user's system
[16:07] <Guest48607> actually i have already downloaded jdk package from oracle site .dont know the road ahead.
[16:07] <JohnnyL> Pici: afaik her group is the same as her account login name.
[16:07] <nemo> but these stupid effects are driving me bonkers. and there seems to be no way to turn them off
[16:07] <nemo> I installed the tweak tool and disabled animation on window open/close, but I still get this shrinking fade thing that is sloooow
[16:07] <nemo> anyone have any suggestions?
[16:08] <nemo> (besides switching to MATE or Mint or any other smartaleck suggestions)
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> nemo: disable background blur
[16:08] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: is that in the tweak tool somewhere?
[16:08] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes.... and it appears I cannot map the codes
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> nemo: unity-tweak-tool -> search
[16:09] <nemo> 'k..
[16:09] <OerHeks> gregc2, so what ubuntu version are you on ?
[16:09] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: huh. don't see a "Search"
[16:09] <Guest48607> how do i get a nickname .
[16:09] <nemo> oh
[16:09] <nemo> haha
[16:09] <nemo> search icon
[16:09] <brendon1981> hoping someone can plz help me fix the users/groups/permissions mess I am in...
[16:09] <JohnnyL>  john adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> nemo :)
[16:10] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: is already off :(
[16:10] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: but. this is opening and closing any window
[16:10] <JohnnyL> but joanne account has login:joanne group:joanne in the ~ listings.
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> nemo: ahh. thats the worst offender
[16:10] <nemo> general window animations is already off
[16:10] <nemo> and textures are set to fast
[16:10] <nemo> yet I still get this annoying slow effect
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> gregc2: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue   please
[16:10] <nemo> is tweak broken in 13.10?
[16:10] <nemo> I searched for ccsm but it appears ubuntu no longer maintains it which is a bad sign
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nemo: is it Unity tweak or Ubuntu tweak ?
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> nemo: no. just unity is very heavy on 3d accelerated features.
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nemo: http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-tweak-and-unity-tweak-tool-powerful-tweaking-applications-ubuntu-1310
[16:11] <nemo> ActionParsnip: unity tweak tool
[16:11] <nemo> ActionParsnip: there's more animations to disable in "ubuntu tweak tool" ?
[16:11]  * nemo hunts
[16:11] <Guest48607> cmmon:hw do i set my nickname
[16:12] <JohnnyL> hitsujiTMO: ^
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> !nick | Guest48607
[16:13] <brendon1981> anyone?  I can't write to my home folder but sudo can...
[16:13] <nemo> ActionParsnip: btw, dunno if you're an ubuntu guy, but ubuntu software centre totally just hung half-way through installing wine. I ended up doing it in synaptic.  my guess is maybe the MSFT core fonts license agreement interaction
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> JohnnyL: the groups look ok. from the joanne account can you also run the command: groups              and paste the output
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> brendon1981: sudo isnt a user
[16:13] <nemo> ActionParsnip: just something in case some noob runs into it
[16:13] <brendon1981> sorry, I don't know how else to explain it
[16:13] <JohnnyL> hitsujiTMO: i did this.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> nemo: possibly, I always use apt-get, why are you using synaptic?
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> brendon1981: ls -ld $HOME
[16:13] <nemo> had to kill it, rerun dpkg --configure -a ..
[16:14] <starhunter> thanx ubottu.hw do i register in freenode
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> !apt-fix | nemo
[16:14] <nemo> ActionParsnip: I was trying to use the ubuntu software centre
[16:14] <nemo> ActionParsnip: trying to replicate something that he would be doing - getting his windows apps running
[16:14] <nemo> ActionParsnip: was hoping to give him a nice user experience, like,  open the installer, search for X, hit install...
[16:14] <nemo> but, might have to stick to commands
[16:15] <brendon1981> http://110.23.10.107:8000/stuff/output.txt
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> starhunter: freenode questions would be best asked in #freenode     to register have a look at: /msg nickserv help register
[16:17] <JohnnyL> hitsujiTMO: getting tired. will do it sometime later. any other suggestions?
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> JohnnyL: not off the top of my head
[16:18] <llutz> brendon1981: "touch %HOME/writetest.file"   does it succeed?
[16:18] <starhunter> #freenode
[16:18] <llutz> brendon1981: "touch $HOME/writetest.file"   does it succeed?
[16:18] <smeb> trying to get ssh vpn working (ssh -w 0:0 etc) - can connect fine to my remote box on the tun ip, but no other machines on the network; any pointers? (have followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN)
[16:18] <brendon1981> yep
[16:18] <llutz> brendon1981: so no write issues
[16:18] <starhunter> hitsuji :hw do i change channels say to #freenode
[16:18] <brendon1981> ok, but mkdir doesn't work
[16:19] <llutz> brendon1981: "mkdir $HOME/testdir"   does it succeed?
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> starhunter: /join #freenode
[16:19] <yogeshsarwate> hi
[16:19] <JohnnyL> hitsujiTMO: ok thanks alot.
[16:19] <JohnnyL> I appreciate all the help ActionParsnip , hitsujiTMO.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> starhunter: works on any IRC network too :)
[16:19] <googcheng> when i upgrade the kernel of 12.04 to 3.10.18 ,   nautilus  makes high cpu usage
[16:20] <brendon1981> Permission denied
[16:20] <googcheng> how to solve the problem
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> brendon1981: can you pastebin the output of: mount
[16:20] <googcheng> does i need to upgrade the nautilus
[16:20] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes.... and it appears I cannot map the codes
[16:20] <Pici> googcheng: don't do that then. 3.10 is not in any of the Ubuntu repositories.
[16:20] <suyash1629> Hi guys, i need some help from you. few days back i was using internet using a manual proxy, everything was working fine but i was not able to clone source codes from github so to make it work i searched a lot in internet and i modified http and https proxy from the terminal for terminal using git config --global http.proxy http://proxyuser:proxypwd@proxy.server.com:8080 git config --global...
[16:20] <suyash1629> ...https.proxy http://proxyuser:proxypwd@proxy.server.com:8080 and git config --system http.sslcainfo /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt. but i was not able to make it work, from yesterday i m using proxy method none from networks setting. after that i again tried to download the source code but i get following error: Get https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo
[16:20] <llutz> brendon1981: "lsattr $HOME"
[16:20] <suyash1629> error: Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?) while accessing https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo/info/refs
[16:20] <suyash1629> fatal: HTTP request failed. I even did git config --global --unset http.proxy and git config --global --unset http.proxy but i get that error continuously. before using manual proxy everything was perfect, i was able to download source codes but now i m having that problem
[16:20] <brendon1981> sure, ill paste it in a link
[16:20] <FloodBot1> suyash1629: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: have you tried other file browsers?
[16:21] <suyash1629> FloodBot1, the condition of my problem was that long to explain
[16:21] <googcheng> no try
[16:21] <brendon1981> http://110.23.10.107:8000/stuff/output.txt
[16:21] <brendon1981> (used the same file)
[16:22] <googcheng> Pici, i followed the linuxg.net    haha
[16:22] <brendon1981> I added myself to a group (debian-transmission) and it's all gone south from there
[16:22] <googcheng> my usb stick can be mount , but can't automount
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: when you last used it ok, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS before physicaly unplugging?
[16:23] <googcheng> many issues are left after upgrade
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: or do you just pull it out?
[16:23] <yogeshsarwate> hi
[16:23] <llutz> brendon1981: pastebin the output of "id"
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: also, what filesystem is the storage using?
[16:23] <brendon1981> http://110.23.10.107:8000/stuff/output2.txt
[16:24] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,   does it matter  to pull or not ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: yes, you need to tell your OS before you pull it out
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> brendon1981: df -h
[16:24] <suyash1629> someone please help me with the issue
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: do you do that?
[16:24] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,  I can mount it ok
[16:25] <smeb> Has anyone had success using the built-in ssh vpn tunneling?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: do you safe remove the stick before unplugging it physically?
[16:25] <brendon1981> http://110.23.10.107:8000/stuff/df-h.txt
[16:25] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,   it's fat32
[16:26] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,  i can't remember it , now what should i do
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> brendon1981: you have no free space and therefor unable to create files
[16:26] <llutz> brendon1981: there you go, empty your filesystem
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: unmount the file system yourself, then use:  sudo eject    on the device name (eg:  sudo eject /dev/sdz)   then unplug
[16:26] <smeb> llutz: "empty your filesystem"... ;)
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: you may want to run a file system check if it is FAT32, it has near-zero robustness
[16:27] <brendon1981> ok, looks like I have much bigger problems.  thanx guys.  gotta find these ghost gigabytes
[16:28] <brendon1981> (should be near empty, basically a new install)
[16:28] <strit> brendon1981, try looking in hidden folders (folders with a . in front)
[16:29] <suyash1629> please guys help me with my issue, i dont know how i have messed that ssl certificate
[16:29] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,  how to check fat32
[16:29] <strit> brendon1981, a fresh install should use about 6 GB if it downloaded third party software during install.
[16:29] <brendon1981> how come I can create a dir with sudo then?
[16:30] <llutz> brendon1981: there is a 5% space reserved for root on the filesystem
[16:30] <llutz> (stupid default today btw)
[16:31] <googcheng> ActionParsnip, i am sure it's fat32 from disk utility
[16:32] <llutz> brendon1981: to check it:  sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda5 | grep "Reserved block"
[16:32] <OerHeks> llutz i thought that the 5% is reserved for filecheck?
[16:32] <brendon1981> eureka
[16:33] <llutz> OerHeks: also for that, but its reserved to be used by "root processes" only
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: what type of ssl cert is it?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: fsck.vfat can check it, be sure the partition is unmounted
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: is it a unified cert by anychance?
[16:34] <brendon1981> thanks always, you have all been a great help.  All of this is because I am trying to get transmission working.  Lo and behold I should forget that it reserves space for 40GB torrents.  Sorry for being so dumb before coming in here...
[16:35] <strit> brendon1981, we all learn by error.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: you may find it easier in Windows, either is fine. Just be sure to ALWAYS use the safe removal feature in your OS. There is a reason it is in there. If you right click the icon for the storage in the Unity launcher you wall also see the safe unplug feature there, nothing taxing
[16:35] <llutz> brendon1981: always put directories to hold such amounts of data outside the /-fs
[16:35] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMOi dont know what i have done with certs but i just ran a single command whic was related to certificate
[16:35] <suyash1629> git config --system http.sslcainfo /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt
[16:36] <brendon1981> I tried that but could'nt get the permissions right eh
[16:36] <suyash1629> since then i m getting certificate error
[16:36] <googcheng> ActionParsnip, the problem is why i can't automount it
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: if the file system is not consistant, the OS will not mount it
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: you are mistreating your hardware, not following best practice and putting your data at risk
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: what did you expect...
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: whats the output of: echo $GIT_SSL_CERT
[16:38] <suyash1629> the output is blank
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: ls -l /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt
[16:39] <andrewjs18> how do I change the color that ubuntu uses for directories and such?
[16:39] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,   really not , i didnt write data some days .  just want the automount to work well
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: yes but the cache for the device doesnt get flushed
[16:40] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO i get something like this: ls: cannot access /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt: No such file or directory
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: it doesnt matter if its actually written to or not
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> andrewjs18: play with LS_COLORS env var
[16:41] <andrewjs18> hitsujiTMO, ty
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: sudo ls -l /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt
[16:41] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO:  ls: cannot access /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt: No such file or directory
[16:42] <googcheng> ActionParsnip, if i format it ,then ok ?
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: when you ran  git config --system http.sslcainfo /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt                        it cleared any cert you were using as you tried to point it to a non existent cert
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: thats one way to do it, then safe remove when you unplug it
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: why are you using FAT32 anyway?
[16:44] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: So what should i do now? i reinstalled git-core and curl but its still the same.
[16:44] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,  i buy with the default , which format you use
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: do you use it in any Windows systems?
[16:45] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,  sometimes , i used ub three years only
[16:45] <suyash1629> i have found the two certificates that git uses. but how should i set it now?
[16:45] <Level15> Hi. Any NIC bonding gurus around?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: if you plug it into a Windows PC and format to NTFS, it will work in both and be much better than FAT32
[16:45] <Level15> I have sort of a mixed Linux-networking question. I have a blade with a dual port NIC. Each port is mapped to a different switch on the chasis interconnect bays. I want to be able to use both ports as a single NIC with load balancing and fault tolerance. I understand I should use a linux bonding interface, but have had some issues setting it up. Is bonding interface the way to go?
[16:46] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: if there would be only one certificate than the same way i could set those but there are two..
[16:46] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,  ok  pal  i'll go to zzz
[16:46] <googcheng> thx
[16:46] <niubl> china?
[16:47] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: the two certificates are: "DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA" and the "DigiCert High Assurance EV CA-1"
[16:47] <googcheng> niubl,  u know it haha
[16:47] <niubl> hhaha
[16:48] <niubl> where are you from
[16:48] <niubl> beijing me
[16:48] <googcheng> i am guangzhou
[16:48] <niubl> so far away
[16:49] <googcheng> just ok
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: this might give you an idea of whats needed. but make usre you give it the correct paths to the necessary files: http://www.wakoond.hu/2013/07/using-git-with-https-client-certificate.html
[16:49] <niubl> what are doing, coding what? whick company?
[16:49] <niubl> u
[16:49] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: ok im checking that link
[16:49] <niubl> i work for baidu
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: and use --global instead of local
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: and use --global instead of --local
[16:50] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: ok
[16:52] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: i didn't understand whats said there.. do i need to download the openssl?
[16:52] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: or what?
[16:52] <StFS> Hi. I'm installing the Oracle Java with the webupd8 packages but I'm having problems that when the installer tries to download the jdk tarball it always gets a connection refused. I'm behind a proxy but I have set both the http_proxy and https_proxy environment variables. I can download the tarball myself from the Oracle web page using a browser. Is there a
[16:52] <StFS> chance that the installer is not listening to the http_proxy variable when downloading the package? Is there anything I can do?
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: maybe i should find a better guide. thats a little poor
[16:53] <alnr> after upgrading to 14.04 my system boots to grub rescue, file not found. resolved by going to f12 boot menu and booting from 2nd (of 3)  sata drives shown. what is best way to repair this. i tried to install boot-repair but not found (in boot-repair ppa)
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> alnr: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[16:53] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: ya.. i think links were missing there(maybe)
[16:54] <Church> StFS: installing from terminal? tried googling on apt-get proxy?
[16:54] <jan> test
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> StFS: you set apt-get proxies in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> !test | jan
[16:55] <StFS> Church: yeah.. all it says is that I have to set the http_proxy env variable
[16:55] <StFS> ActionParsnip, Church: sorry... my bad.. that was what it said and I've done that
[16:56] <StFS> ActionParsnip, Church: before that I couldn't download any packages but now that's working (so apt is able to get packages from the repos) but the webupd8 package downloads a tarball from oracle "by itself" and I'm wondering if it needs some other proxy settings to work
[16:56] <Church> as in you did export http_proxy=http://yourproxyip:portnumber ? does your proxy require authentification?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> StFS: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/apt.conf file please
[16:57] <StFS> Church: it does not
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> StFS: ahh, you will need to set the proxy in ~/.wgetrc
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> StFS: that uses wget, which will need the proxy settings too
[16:57] <Church> ActionParsnip: you think so? imho wget also should honor http_proxy env var
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Church: maybe, worth a try
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Church: 'should' is a powerful word
[16:57] <StFS> ActionParsnip: :) gonna try that
[16:58] <Church> ActionParsnip: except maybe if wget has preset proxy in ~/.wgetrc or /etc/wgetrc, that overrides env var
[16:58] <Church> especially if there might be some env var mixup if running with sudo
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Church: not 100% sure tbh, I know you can set proxy addresses in the files stated
[16:59] <goschtl> hi in which log file can i find the error "too many open files" ?
[16:59] <goschtl> in syslog i can not find it
[17:00] <StFS> ActionParsnip: you rock dude! ;)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> StFS: I try
[17:00] <StFS> Church: thanks for your help also... you rock too :)
[17:01] <bazzo94> ciao
[17:01] <bazzo94> !list
[17:01] <bazzo94> !alis
[17:01] <Church> what? no warez?! internet was made for warez and porn! :)
[17:02] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: have you found the guide?
[17:02] <ColinHarrington> Hey, I've got a MacbookPro one of those new 1TB PCIe-based Flash Storage (rough, I know)  but I'm getting some horrible IO lag and 100% IO utilization.  Anyone willing to help me sort it out?  (or direct me to the right place)
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: nothing yet i'm afraid. all I've found are quite poor
[17:03] <ColinHarrington> Ubuntu 13.10
[17:03] <ColinHarrington> EFI Boot
[17:03] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: can you guide me yourself?
[17:04] <yanick_> hi, I just did the latest upgrade this morning, with the new kernel and I cannot log in to my shell (X server) anymore. From the terminal, everything is fine. I tried reconfiguring the display, but nothing works. How can I troubleshoot this^
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> suyash1629: i'm not actually familiar with git+httpssl. i use git+ssh
[17:06] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: i dont have any other options than reinstalling ubuntu.. i m afraid to do that because after that i wont be able to set the android build environment again
[17:06] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: is there any way to reset all of the
[17:07] <suyash1629> hitsujiTMO: is there any way to reset all of them
[17:07] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: I missed your original post about git + https, What was your ?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> ColinHarrington: if you intended installing Ubuntu, why pay over the odds for a Mac?
[17:08] <yanick_> no one had problem rebooting after the last update today?
[17:08] <ColinHarrington>  ActionParsnip: I intended to dual-boot but mostly live in Linux
[17:08] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: thats really long i need to copy them again.. wait i will copy it
[17:08] <g1> I want to change mysql database location on ubuntu,but failed.Mysql can't start:140104  0:48:53 [Warning] Can't create test file /data/mysql/AY140102170744196884Z.lower-test
[17:08] <ColinHarrington> ActionParsnip: I am dual-booting - and that works great.
[17:09] <kaanklky> Did you try sudo? @gl
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> ColinHarrington: same question again, if you intend to use Linux why pay the Mac tax when you can buy a cheaper system which will run the same under ubuntu
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> yanick_: in which release?
[17:09] <Church> g1: check write permissions to that dir under user mysql is running from
[17:09] <pvh_sa> hey there... i'm on ubuntu 13.10, and I'm having trouble finding applications in the Dash... the search results are inconsistent, so just now I looked for xchat, it spun for ages, no result... I closed dash, re-opened it, and now it finally found it - any idea how to make it more consistent (and faster?)
[17:09] <yanick_> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu-Gnome 13.10
[17:09] <g1> I am Using root user
[17:09] <yanick_> ActionParsnip, however I am very doubtful that it has anything to do with Gnome
[17:10] <yanick_> ActionParsnip, sorry, 64-bit
[17:10] <llutz> g1: make sure the new dir is 700 mysql:mysql
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> yanick_: works ok here, Im on Trusty though :)
[17:10] <Church> g1: are you sure mysql is not running under mysql user (if you start it with initscript)?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> yanick_: what happens on reboot?
[17:10] <suyash1629> few days back i was using internet using a manual proxy, everything was working fine but i was not able to clone source codes from github so to make it work i searched a lot in internet and i modified http and https proxy from the terminal for terminal using git config --global http.proxy http://proxyuser:proxypwd@proxy.server.com:8080 git config --global https.proxy http://proxyuser:proxypwd@prox
[17:10] <suyash1629> y.server.com:8080 and git config --system http.sslcainfo /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt. but i was not able to make it work, from yesterday i m using proxy method none from networks setting. after that i again tried to download the source code but i get following error: Get https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo error: Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?) while accessing https://gerrit.g
[17:10] <suyash1629> ooglesource.com/git-repo/info/refs
[17:10] <FloodBot1> suyash1629: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <yanick_> ActionParsnip, I get to the login screen, enter my password, then the screen goes blank and returns to the login screen. I am tempted to trash fglrx and attempt reinstalling it
[17:11] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: i have pasted it again
[17:11] <ColinHarrington>  ActionParsnip: 'run the same'?  HighDPI screen with this performance in such a light package?  I haven't found anything else that matches the hardware in a similar sleek package.  I wish the Razr blade had a high-dpi screen.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> yanick_: if you select a differnet session, is it the same?
[17:11] <Church> yanick_: login from console, check ~/.xsession-errors
[17:11] <ColinHarrington>  ActionParsnip: anyway, I'm not here to argue about that :-) its a conversation I've had before.   Also take that one up with Linus too..
[17:11] <yanick_> ActionParsnip, I tried Gnome Classic and Gnome (only two I have) and the same happens.
[17:11] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: thx
[17:12] <yanick_> Church, right, I'll reboot and do that, I'm on a live USB right now
[17:12] <yanick_> brb
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> yanick_: if you log in as another user
[17:12] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: as hitsujiTMO said "when you ran git config --system http.sslcainfo /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt it cleared any cert you were using as you tried to point it to a non existent cert"
[17:13] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: the original certificates are deleted
[17:13] <yanick_> ActionParsnip, I only have one user on this box... my personal laptop. Never had this problem for the the past 5 years that I have this computer (all hardware tests pass ok)
[17:13] <sirpatrick> I have ubunutu 12.04 and am trying to get a touchscreen to work. Where does the calibration data for x11 get stored?
[17:13] <Guest1676> I upgraded from ubuntu 12.04LTS to 12.10, now when i want to boot back into ubuntu it does not let me, it gives me a black screen and stays like that. What could be the problem, im on a live 12.04LTS CD as we speak
[17:14] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: Read only?
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> sirpatrick: touchscreen calibration data is usually driver specific. what driver are you usign?
[17:14] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: what?
[17:15] <sirpatrick> I am following these instructions http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aYpIaunW_OwJ:gnometechblog.weebly.com/1/post/2012/03/first-post.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[17:15] <sirpatrick> but the conf file xord.conf.d doesn't exist for me
[17:15] <sirpatrick> hitsujitmo: egalax
[17:16] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: i think its not read only.. there is no key located in /bin/curl-ca-bundle.crt
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest1676: what video chip do you use?
[17:16] <Guest1676> ActionParsnip, i really do not know
[17:17] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: and i dont know where the original keys are stored..
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> sirpatrick: xorg.conf.d is a folder not a file. whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest1676: does the system have a make and model?
[17:17] <sirpatrick> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:18] <Guest1676> ActionParsnip, hp pavilion g6
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest1676: not thought to use that information, to search the web and find out?
[17:18] <suyash1629> i have found the certificates that git uses. its given in this website: http://www.simplicidade.org/notes/archives/2011/06/github_ssl_ca_errors.html
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest1676: the web will show you the spec based on the maodel, won't it
[17:18] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: I meant your interaction with your git server?  Are you trying to commit or just pull read-only
[17:18] <Ilmen> Hello
[17:19] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: also, Thats a good route - see if curl gives you an error
[17:19] <Guest1676> ActionParsnip, ill search it now
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest1676: not thought of that?
[17:19] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: is it a self signed certificate?
[17:19] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: i m trying to download android source code and i get that error  when repo init
[17:20] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: thats a DigiCert  signed cert
[17:20] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: curl does not give error, it downloads successfully.
[17:20] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: can you share the URL?  I assume its open for anyone?
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> sirpatrick: whats the output that you get from:  Calibrate Touch-screen
[17:21] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b cm-10.2
[17:21] <Ilmen> I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 and am sometimes experiencing a problem with my Internet connection (wired) after hibernation: the ethernet connection become cannot be activated anymore and I then need to reboot to fix it.
[17:22] <Ilmen> I tried the commands shown on this page [ http://en.kioskea.net/faq/1141-linux-restarting-the-network-interface-using-command-lines ] but to no avail
[17:22] <Ilmen> "/etc/init.d/networking restart" gives me the error "ERROR: Calling a sysvinit script on a system using upstart isn't supported. Please use the 'service' command instead."
[17:23] <Ilmen> what should I do for killing and restarting my network services then?
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> Ilmen: sudo service networking restart
[17:23] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: that URL is using the git protocol not HTTPS ..  http://git-scm.com/book/ch4-1.html
[17:23] <xCorp> huy
[17:24] <Ilmen> hitsujiTMO: oh, that's so simple? Thanks for the tip :)
[17:24] <sirpatrick> hitsujitmo:http://pastebin.com/zwaXAqWm
[17:24] <suyash1629> but when i run that it give me this error: Get https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo
[17:24] <suyash1629> error: Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?) while accessing https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo/info/refs
[17:24] <suyash1629> fatal: HTTP request failed
[17:26] <pavan12345> How to block sub domains using ufw?
[17:26] <Guest1676> ActionParsnip, I cant find nothing on what kind of video chip i have
[17:27] <ActionPa1snip> Guest35909: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c02974938
[17:27] <ActionPa1snip> Guest35909: AMD Radeon HD 6470M (1 GB DDR3 dedicated)
[17:27] <pavan12345> How to block sub domains using ufw? Help required urgent..!!
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> Guest35909: your  Intel Pentium B960 also has an Intel GPU
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> Guest35909: does this sound about right?
[17:28] <Guest1676> ActionPa1snip, intel i3
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> pavan12345: try something like: sudo ufw deny from 192.168.0.0/24
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> Guest1676: have you tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[17:29] <Guest1676> ActionPa1snip, ive only tried to boot from uefi and from boot repair but neither is working
[17:29] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: one more thing to notice.. when i set use system proxy settings in firefox and try to surf internet than i m always redirected to my proxy address, but in system network settings i have not set any manual proxy.
[17:29] <jc_> after recent updates xorg won't start I am getting a "no screens found" error in the xorg log file.  how can I fix this?
[17:29] <Guest1676> ActionPa1snip, and also im booting from windows 8
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> sirpatrick: whats the output that you get from:  Calibrate Touch-screen  including the new calibration data
[17:30] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: one more thing to notice.. when i set use system proxy settings in firefox and try to surf internet than i m always redirected to the proxy address i used sometimes back
 I have site URLs like example.org, abc.example.org, xyz.example.org... If I have 20-30 URL's then that method will be tricky right?
[17:30] <alnr> i'm getting grub-rescue/file not found after an upgrade to 14.04. i'm asking in ubuntu+1, but is there a good alternative to boot-repair, which does not seem to be supported yet on 14.04
[17:30] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: You can configure your proxy on a Desktop environment level with the settings.  you can tell FF to use system settings, or its own manual settings
[17:31] <TheLordOfTime> alnr, #ubuntu+1 is the only place that can help you
[17:31] <TheLordOfTime> alnr, 14.04 is still in development and this channel is not for the in-development version of Ubuntu.
[17:31] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: I don't believe that the system wide proxy is used in most command line tools like curl, wget, etc.
[17:31] <Guest1676> ActionPa1snip, how do i boot from nomodeset
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> pavan12345: afaik ufw knows nothing of domains just ips.
[17:32] <alnr> TheLordOfTime: understood, just wondering about boot-repair options not version specific
[17:32] <suyash1629> i think the system proxy is still the one i used sometimes back, which i no longer use nowdays.
[17:32] <ActionPa1snip> !nomodeset | Guest1676
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> alnr as i've said #ubuntu+1 for anything 14.04 related
[17:33] <pavan12345> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for the help..!! :) How to block traceroute using ufw?
[17:33] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: how can i reset the system proxy?
[17:33] <jc_> I've removed all the nvidia drivers leaving only the default ubuntu one hopeing that would help but X is still not strarting. BTW  this is for 13.10
[17:33] <yanick> Church, ActionPa1snip, I found my problem. It was a line in my .profile script
[17:33] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: and what to do for that ssl cert error?
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> pavan12345: why do you want to block traceroute?
[17:34] <alnr> hitsujiTMO: yep i'm trying to get help there but since thats not availing yet, i'm wondering what would be the course of action on a non-in-development version of ubuntu
[17:34] <Guest1676> ActionPa1snip, will i loose all my data if i do this?
[17:34] <alnr> in case i could try that
[17:34] <yanick> ^^ I installed NVM the other day and it suggested adding one specific line, and I guess the guy's script messed up something here
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> Guest1676: no, and if your data is important you will have a backup
[17:34] <Guest1676> ActionPa1snip, ok so i do all of this from a live cd right?
[17:34] <pavan12345> hitsujiTMO: it's my assignement in college dude.
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> Guest1676: no, from the installed OS
[17:35] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: Ubuntu Desktop?  That would be in the System Settings under Network -> Network proxy    (also backed by dconf somewhere)
[17:35] <Guest1676> ActionPa1snip, so then from windows 8? because the only way im on here right now is from a live cd
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> pavan12345: whoever gave you that assignment is an awful awful person. you shouldn't be blocking traceroute. you'd want to block icmp packets.
[17:36] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: i have done that but still firefox is taking older proxy.. well thats not a big problem, i was just asking if that was also creating that ssl error
[17:36] <pavan12345> hitsujiTMO: cool..Is there any alternative procedure to block sub domains in ubuntu? I heard hosts.deny will help in this...Is it so?
[17:37] <imghost> Guest1676, spend some time on web, try to learn proper dual boot on uefi visit help.ubuntu.com
[17:37] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: curl -v https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo/info/refs
[17:37] <ColinHarrington> That request doesn't fail on SSL cert stuff for me, but it does give me a "HTTP/1.1 406 Not Acceptable"
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> pavan12345: that depends on the application domain. but yeah looks to be the case(personally i've never used it) as always the best place to look for exact answers is the man pages http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl5_hostsde.htm
[17:40] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: That might be explainable by lack of valid accept headers
[17:41] <pavan12345> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for the great help :)
[17:41] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo/info/refs returning 406 error
[17:43] <Atlantic777> Hi! Any lightdm or unity-greeter hackers around? I need to change clock to 24h format in login screen but there's no such settings in gsettings for unity-greeter.
[17:43] <Atlantic777> Any ideas other to changing greeter?
[17:44] <jc_> I'm getting a fatal x server error "no screens found" can anyone help me trouble shoot this?
[17:45] <Kirk> suggested question for #ubuntu "I am having trouble installing Darktable after issuing ./configure && make && make install it starts the fan on my laptop.
[17:46] <Atlantic777> Kirk: it's because you're compiling it from source and it's completely ok to make some load on the CPU. :)
[17:46] <OerHeks> Kirk, use the darktable ppa, it has the latest 1.4 > https://launchpad.net/~pmjdebruijn/+archive/darktable-release
[17:46] <Kirk> ty
[17:48] <jc_> here is the content of the xorg log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6685922/
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> Atlantic777: try adding # clock-format = strftime-format string, e.g. %H:%M             under [greeter]
[17:49] <Atlantic777> hitsujiTMO: to lightdm.confg?
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> Atlantic777: yup
[17:50] <Atlantic777> I've already tried that without [greater] section, thanks for the idea. ;)
[17:51] <Atlantic777> hitsujiTMO: nope, it didn't work.
[17:52] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: any solutions?
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> Atlantic777: :(
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> jc_ what gpu do you have?
[17:52] <ColinHarrington> I'm assuming that "http.sslVerify false" is not what you are looking for?
[17:52] <ColinHarrington> git config --global http.sslVerify false
[17:52] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: ^
[17:53] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: Nvidia I think it the 440, I've already removed all the proprietary nvidia drivers thinking that was the issue
[17:53] <epsilon1> hi. Could someone help me to set up my gufw firewall for transmission client in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections
[17:54] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: that worked for now..
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: what was the exact command you used to remove the nvidia drivers
[17:55] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: apt-get purge nvidia-*
[17:55] <suyash1629> its initiating, i will check if it works for repo sync too
[17:55] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes.... and it appears I cannot map the codes correctly either. None of my manual mappings work
[17:55] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: that opens it up for untrusted MITM attacks, but given git's sha'mazing abilities and lack of authentication, I would just match shas
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: one thing i tell everyone is to never use * with apt-get ... always leads to trouble. :P
[17:56] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: what do you mean?
[17:56] <wildon> so how is fb 2de
[17:56] <wildon> #feed
[17:58] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: 'git config --global http.sslVerify false' tells git not to validate https certificates against a Certificate Authority (CA)  This potentially opens you up to man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks.
[17:58] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: I wouldn't worry about it if you don't pass any credentials to the server
[17:58] <wildon> lol
[17:59] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: AND you can match the git SHAs on the remote server and local
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections
[18:00] <wildon> let me get it right
[18:00] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: I'm assuming you are just trying to work around a corporate firewall or something.
[18:00] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: sorry getting it now
[18:01] <shevy> is it possible to have icons as quick launchers?
[18:01] <shevy> as permant ones that is
[18:01] <suyash1629> ColinHarrington: repo sync is too working..  hey, i have found the certs the git uses, its in the same link i provided you earlier. those are "DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA" and the "DigiCert High Assurance EV CA-1" but i dont know how to set that to git
[18:01] <wildon> @shevy yes
[18:02] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629: I think the earlier guy was on to something, when you specified your cert, you may have used that instead of your other 'trusted' certificates.
[18:02] <ColinHarrington> suyash1629:  Good luck
[18:03] <suyash1629> ok
[18:03] <wildon> #python nw
[18:03] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686026/
[18:04] <cvsguimaraes> Can I install ubuntu without grub? I just want to boot using the good'n'old bios
[18:05] <DonRichie> Hey Internet People. Look what I've built: http://3vo.de. Beware of bugs and lags!!
[18:05] <ColinHarrington> cvsguimaraes: Doesn't BIOS just hand over loading to something else called a boot-loader?
[18:05] <ColinHarrington> cvsguimaraes: You'll need a bootloader of some sort
[18:06] <cvsguimaraes> I just want to keep the windows boot loader intact, may if I disconnect my windows drive before installation i can achieve this?
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> jc_ you removed nvidia-common which triggered the removal some of other important aspects of the xserver drivers.
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: try installing it
[18:06] <jc_> reinstall nvidia-common?
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: yup
[18:06] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: ok doing it now
[18:07] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes.... and it appears I cannot map the codes correctly either. None of my manual mappings work
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: nvidia-common is part of the base install and not install by the nvidia driver. this is why you shouldn't blindly purge nvidia-*
[18:09] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: that makes sense, I had assumed that all the nvidia-* packages were from nvidia and not part of the base install, will not do that again
[18:10] <wildon> this is nothing http://3vo.de/
[18:10] <Hitman> Hello there
[18:10] <wildon> who knows the way round custom buiild
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: if installing nvidia-common alone doesn't help then let me know and i'll see if i can figure out what else was removed
[18:11] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: same thing no decives detected no screens found
[18:11] <OerHeks> wildon, custom build of what?
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: what version if ubuntu are you using?
[18:12] <wildon> DerHeks linux
[18:12] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: 13.10 with gnome-shell installed
[18:12] <OerHeks> wildon, we only support ubuntu here
[18:13] <gdeeble>  Can someone direct me in the right direction here? I have a server running Zentyal 3.2. Followed their tutorial on setting up a domain, however, only have 1 NIC. My problem is, I can get my laptop(only computer I'm trying right now) to join the domain. It says it can't find the controller, but I have my DNS set up right any all.
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: try installing xserver-xorg-video-all
[18:13] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: ok will give that a try
[18:13] <wildon> oh my mistake i meant ubuntu builds
[18:17] <wildon> #python
[18:17] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: it looks ugly but at least x started this time! Thanks
[18:18] <Hitman> I would never ever date my x again
why
[18:18] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: not sure which driver is actually starts as it looks like compostig is currenlty off
 why
[18:19] <jc_> wildon: why what?
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: ok can you again pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections
[18:19] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: will do
[18:19] <wildon>  it looks ugly but at least x started this time! Thanks
[18:19] <wolfzrat> hey guys i really need help and you guys are my last resort
[18:19] <lickalott> has anyone here messed with the client side of openvpn on ubuntu?
[18:20] <wolfzrat> everytime i open dota 2 on steam i get glGetError
[18:20] <shevy> hmm I am compiling on the latest ubuntu without any problems it seems
[18:20] <shevy> in the past I had to do "apt-get install build-essential". is this no longer necessary?
[18:20] <wildon> wolfzrt: bring it on
[18:20] <wolfzrat> message please help me
[18:20] <mnemon> lickalott: i've used it.
[18:20] <Kajunfiend> i need to edit my sources list with gedit because there's a bad repo.. i know which one it is i just need to find the sourceslist
[18:21] <wolfzrat> there you go wildon
[18:21] <mnemon> wolfzrat: have you installed the lastest drivers for your gfx card?
[18:21] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686158/
[18:21] <mnemon> Kajunfiend:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:21] <wolfzrat> mnemon, i updated everything but just to be sure could you guide me
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: can you also pastebin the the contents of /var/log/apt/history.log
[18:22] <wolfzrat> ill redo it
[18:22] <mnemon> wolfzrat: which gfx card?
[18:22] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: will do
[18:22] <Kajunfiend> how do i delete a source via terminal
[18:22] <wolfzrat> can you give me the terminal command so i can paste it here
[18:23] <mnemon> Kajunfiend: edit the file, remove the offending line.
[18:23] <lickalott> mnemon, I can't maintain my internet connection while VPN'd in to my home network.
[18:23] <Kajunfiend> thing is i dont see it in the sources.list
[18:23] <mnemon> with nano or gedit or something
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> Kajunfiend: is the source aded via a ppa?
[18:23] <Kajunfiend> yea
[18:24] <Kajunfiend> ttp://ppa.launchpad.net/happy-neko/ps3mediaserver/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | you should use this to remove it
[18:24] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: history.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686168/
[18:24] <mnemon> Kajunfiend: there's also folder sources.list.d in there that might have it.
[18:24] <gregc2> Has anyone played with wy60 ncurses in squeeze or ubuntu? For some reason my delete mapping isnt right. Would like to know what it should be.... as its not sending the right codes.... and it appears I cannot map the codes correctly either. None of my manual mappings work
[18:24] <wolfzrat> ?
[18:24] <mnemon> lickalott: maintain it?
[18:25] <mnemon> like it cuts off after a while or?
[18:25] <Kajunfiend> What would the repository name be in that url
[18:25] <Kajunfiend> ttp://ppa.launchpad.net/happy-neko/ps3mediaserver/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:25] <MosherMike1138> My laptop dual boots Ubuntu and Windows Vista. Vista has a virus which I can't remove. I would like to reinstall a clean version of vista but am worried that it will stop the ubuntu boot loader from working. The only Vista disk I have is the system recovery disk. Can I use this but preserve the Ubuntu installation and bootloader?
[18:26] <lickalott> it severes the eth0 interface right away (upon VPN connection)   seems like it's taking my default gateway and making it my home networks default gateway (for eth0 on my ubuntu box)
[18:27] <roothorick> so does 14.04 enable TRIM by default when an SSD is detected?
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: #ubuntu+1
[18:27] <mnemon> lickalott: you could add a route that will override the openvpn ones
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: hmm unfortunately it doesn't list the exact removed files.
[18:27] <mnemon> lickalott: http://linux.die.net/man/8/route
[18:27] <Kajunfiend> mnemon, i found the list it's entitled by itself in the sources.list.d could i just delete it?
[18:27] <alainus> Question: how do I boot into command line, and skip going into the desktop? I want to start the desktop when I want to
[18:28] <mnemon> Kajunfiend: yes
[18:28] <lickalott> i'll try it.  but i didn't think it would be this difficult.  On a windows box I get "both".  Not sure why it's not working the same way on linux
[18:28] <Icehawk78> Is there a good way to span the contents of two hard drives (or just two partitions) across a folder structure that doesn't explicitly keep them separate?
[18:28] <mnemon> Kajunfiend: i'd recheck the contents to make sure :P
[18:28] <Kajunfiend> i did, but i cant delete it i guess cuz i'm not root?
[18:29] <MrCurious> now the tftp server is up and working, now to work out why MAAS isnt giving the nodes a tftp address on boot
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: out of ideas unfortunately. you may also be running a different version of xserver since you added the xorg edgers ppa
[18:31] <lickalott> K, while I'm messing with the network stuff I do have another question (and i hope this is simple).   With Putty, does anyone know how to get more than one session at a time?
[18:32] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the help at least x is started now going to see if I can get one of the better nvidia drivers working now
[18:38] <hitsujiTMO> Icehawk78: have a look at unionfs of lvm for that
[18:38] <eksip> buntu
[18:38] <gregc2> awesome
[18:38] <gregc2> figured it out
[18:39] <Jordan_U> Icehawk78: What is your end goal?
[18:40] <Hitman> Mine would be to get gta v ;/
[18:40] <eksip> Hi, why so many users switched to Mind and Debian? Is any one know?
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> Hitman: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[18:41] <lickalott> eksip, windows 8.
[18:41] <lickalott> HUGE fail
[18:41] <StephenS> -join #windows
[18:41] <Hitman> Yeah,where do i get tutorials on ubuntu please
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | hitman
[18:42] <eksip> why you need tutorials for ubuntu?
[18:42] <eksip> it is simple and intuitive
[18:42] <Hitman> Because,I've never used it before?
[18:42] <gregc2> lol
[18:42] <eksip> it is very easy, even format is very very easy
[18:42]  * gregc2 dies on the inside
[18:43] <eksip> burn live cd, put it inside
[18:43] <Hitman> I'm downloading it right now :/
[18:43] <Hitman> Gerg-thanks for the support
[18:43] <eksip> it too easy, i think you may it figure out without any wiki
[18:43] <Hitman> Thanks.
[18:43] <gregc2> Hitman, if you need any help at all just ask. I can help ya too
[18:44] <lickalott> Hitman,  there is actually a REALLY good book you can get (at barnes and noble or the like)
[18:44] <Hitman> Or you may die inside a bit.more :p
[18:44] <lickalott> walks you through n00b - proficient in a short time
[18:44] <Hitman> I would love one in epub format
[18:44] <gregc2> Not dying on the inside about you ;-)
[18:45] <lickalott> Hitman, do you torrent or have a usenet account?
[18:45] <Hitman> I don't have a usenet account
[18:45] <Hitman> It's on torrent.
[18:45] <eksip> Hitman, see on youtube Ubuntu installation videos
[18:46] <Icehawk78> Jordan_U: I've got two 2TB drives that I'd like to be able to treat locally as if they were one large partition, mounted at /media/storage
[18:46] <eksip> and i think it is alright,  after installing ubuntu all software you need is on Ubuntu Software Center
[18:46] <eksip> But many times it a little bit outdated
[18:46] <Hitman> I've already checked a few videos of it was extremely useful
[18:47] <Icehawk78> Jordan_U: However, one of the drives is about 95% full, and the other has my root OS filesystem installed on it
[18:47] <roothorick> which package do I install for nvidia 307.xx series?
[18:49] <Icehawk78> I'm fine with simply shrinking my root filesystem so that it's only using, say, 200 GB of one of the drives, and not putting that on the LVM/whatnot (that almost seems safer, though I could be wrong) but I'm not sure what the "right" way, if such a thing exists, is.
[18:49] <roothorick> oh, I see, there's been some version divergence between linux and windows for The Blob :/
[18:49] <Jordan_U> Icehawk78: What is the problem with using separate directories? There are certainly ways to merge directories, but the added complexity might now be worth it.
[18:51] <lickalott> Hitman, if you can give me some time (busy right now) I have a few books that you may dig
[18:51] <eksip> Common books for ubuntu?
[18:51] <Icehawk78> Jordan_U: It's primarily for the simplicity of organization - if I don't need to have, say, /media/sdb1/TVShows and /media/sdc1/TVShows then it'd be simpler to access and scan the files.
[18:52] <eksip> www
[18:52] <eksip> #window
[18:54] <Jordan_U> Icehawk78: You might want to go with a read only Unionfs mount of two such directories, so when adding files you would need to add them specifically to one directory or the other (and thus one drive or the other) but you could view the result and open the files from a single directory.
[18:54] <Icehawk78> Jordan_U: Okay, I'll look into that. Thanks!
[18:56] <crankharder> when i type my (correct) password at the login prompt (ubuntu 12.04 desktop) the screen goes black and then goes right back to the login prompt screen.  if i type in an incorrect password it shows some invalid passsword error message (As expecteD) -- I've recently 'rm -rf /home/.encryptfs' because it was 90GB...  could that be the reason for this behavior?
[18:56] <mknarr> Hello, I'm having trouble with my PXE boot server.  I have the image created and files in the correct locations but i get the message right befor the computer boots into the image.   http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/jamacia_man/Capture.jpg
[18:57] <eksip> I do not want see how is log in who logout, is it possible to filter this somehow?
[18:57] <eksip> rm -rf ? :)  are you joking
[18:58] <DJones> eksip: Which IRC client are you using, different ones have different ways of hiding joins/parts to IRC
[18:58] <Pici> !quietirc | eksip
[18:58] <Jordan_U> Icehawk78: You're welcome. You could also use a more classic UNIX approach of using symlinks, and then you can easily see from "ls -l" which files are actually stored where.
[18:58] <eksip> xchat i using
[18:58] <OerHeks> crankharder, sure, you wiped your encrypted homefolder
[18:59] <eksip> ok thanks
[18:59] <crankharder> OerHeks: a) I can log in with ssh.  b) i specifically didnt' encrypt my home folder when i set this box up... so why was it there?
[19:00] <mknarr> Anyone Know anything about PXE boot?
[19:00] <Jordan_U> !anyone | mknarr
[19:00] <OerHeks> crankharder, yes you did, otherwise you would not have a .encryptfs
[19:01] <Guest45745> anyone herer
[19:02] <sirpatrick> how can I tell if I am using a PAE kernel
[19:02] <OerHeks> crankharder, so you can SSH in, in that same account or are there more accounts on your ubuntu?
[19:02] <crankharder> OerHeks: there's only my one account
[19:06] <jhutchins> sirpatrick: I think uname -a should show it, or cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:07] <mknarr> I have a PXE/TFTP server setup and running on ubuntu 10.04.01 LTS  I can get some images to load but i cant get the most recent one i created to fully boot.  It loads pretty much everything then pauses for a second  (see pix) thn says "Restarting System"  http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/jamacia_man/Capture.jpg  If anyone has any knowledge on PXE/TFTP your help would be much appreciated
[19:07] <catalase_> does anyone know if symbolic links are retained when changing directory names with mv command
[19:07] <mknarr> doubt it
[19:09] <eksip> catalase  why not to try ?
[19:09] <catalase_> i am linux noob
[19:10] <mknarr> catalase_, I agree with eksip try it and if it does not work just create a new s link
[19:10] <JeeJ2z> >>>>> Laughing Out Loud <<<<<
[19:11] <lickalott> am I missing something.....??   route add isn't working.  it keeps telling me that the "usage" is inet_route
[19:11] <HomelessSanta> Howdy all, I just upgraded a newer Ubuntu kernel from the update manager on 12.04.3 LTS and the kernel won't boot into Unity. Is there any chance I can set the older kernel to boot instead of the non-bootable kernel?!?
[19:11] <b3x> mknarr, is it an LTS box?
[19:11] <mknarr> b3x, yes
[19:11] <sirpatrick> flogistix123
[19:11] <sirpatrick> dddd123
[19:12] <sirpatrick> uname -r
[19:12] <b3x> mknarr, you rebuilt the image and kernels?
[19:13] <sirpatrick> yea, uname -r worked jhutchins
[19:15] <mknarr> b3x, I built the image in a vm then mounted the vm hdd on a different vm and copied the files to the tftp server.  the kernel is the default one that comes with ubuntu updated
[19:15] <mknarr> HomelessSanta, when you turn on your computer hit Escape that will bring you into the recovery menu select a different Kernel to boot into then downgrade your kernel. im not sure of the steps to do that but google it :D
[19:16] <HomelessSanta> mknarr, I gotcha already booted back into the older kernel using the shift-key for grub. No problem guess I'll have to Google it.
[19:16] <mknarr> HomelessSanta, k
[19:17] <HomelessSanta> Thanks though for answering. :)
[19:17] <mknarr> HomelessSanta, NP :D
[19:17] <eksip> Lucky you Homeless Santa :) it cound fare more serious xaxa
[19:18] <HomelessSanta> eksip, I did see something like Depod problems or something with a module can't seem to remember it.
[19:18] <HomelessSanta> Depmod my mistake.
[19:18] <b3x> mknarr, did you setup NBD for swap? I typically see a reboot like that if my thin clients dont get a connection to NBD
[19:19] <mknarr> b3x, not that i know of
[19:22] <crankharder> okay, got interrupted... so there's a readme in my home directory now that says to run 'ecryptfs-mount-private' which says: 'ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly' --  the thing is, i dont care.. there's nothing in there I want, and i dont need it encrypted.  can I just tell it to not try to mount an encrypted home directory?
[19:22] <crankharder> or delete the encrypted one, and create a normal one?
[19:22] <wildon> #DarkMyst
[19:27] <Xiaolin> I have an issue that is really frustrating me.
[19:27] <crankharder> fun, so i've removed /home/.ecryptfs and /home/myusername and recreated /home/myusername -- ssh still works, can't log into the desktop UI :/
[19:28] <Xiaolin> I assumed it was bad video ram after testing my ram and hdd.
[19:28] <crankharder> something somewhere still thinks /home/myusername should be encrypted?
[19:29] <Xiaolin> crankharder: i think you may have needed the hidden folders under /home/username which contain all the config files for various apps.
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> crankharder: have you looked in /etc/passwd for anything suspicious
[19:29] <DonRichie> ½þvü
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> crankharder: also whats the output of: groups
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> !details | Xiaolin
[19:30] <crankharder> hitsujiTMO: groups: jsharpe adm disk cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare -- normal enough?
[19:31] <crankharder> maybe i could create a new user with a 'default' home directory contents and copy it over?
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> crankharder: disk is the only group i dont recognise there
[19:32] <b3x> crankharder, if you dont want anything encrypted remove the encryptfs-utils
[19:32] <Xiaolin> np. what happened was, my pc recently started crashing (fast crash no warnings) while running windows 7. so i booted up ubuntu yesterday and was hoping to isolate the issue when suddenly ubuntu crashed as well. now windows will still run but still crashes whenever i do something like launch a game or watch a video thats too long.
[19:32] <Xiaolin> crankharder: i think that would work
[19:33] <b3x> crankharder, copy contents of /etc/skel to your home directory
[19:33] <Xiaolin> at least to get the UI
[19:33] <Xiaolin> do what b3x said, skel is the directory new users get created from.
[19:34] <b3x> Xiaolin, your crashes ... does the machine lock up, or reboot?
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: is the machine getting hot before it crashes?
[19:34] <Xiaolin> shuts down
[19:34] <Jonii> Hello. I like playing Dota 2, but I have a problem: Alt key is used heavily in that game, but doubletapping alt brings up the command prompt thing in Unity
[19:34] <b3x> heat or power is what you ought to check first ...
[19:35] <Xiaolin> and no but i have put a lot of stress on it in the past, so i assumed i had burnt the vram
[19:35] <mknarr> Jonii,  then under shortcut settings chang that option to a different key :D
[19:35] <Jonii> I really dislike disabling commands entirely, or remapping keys(dota 2 one can't be rebound), so optimal solution would be to disable such functionality while playing
[19:35] <mknarr> Jonii, sorry keyboard shortcut  settings *
[19:36] <Jonii> Is there reasonable route to just disable it only while playing?(Like, full screen application running)
[19:36] <Jonii> Also, what would be the suggested least-conflicts key to rebind it to?
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> Jonii: Sounds like something you should file a bug report on
[19:37] <Jonii> I really dislike rebinding system keys because no matter what you do, it always ends up being clunky and causing conflicts later on :/
[19:37] <Jonii> Maybe I could use alt gr though?
[19:38] <crankharder> b3x: did something along those lines... thanks :)
[19:38] <Xiaolin> b3x: its not heat or power. im running on a laptop with no battery, always plugged in. and i can launch a game right after booting (before it has a chance to heat up) and cause the crash. however i have been logged on to windows all morning and no crash (until i load the wrong video or launch a game). and the problem was the same for ubuntu, was, until yesterday when it started crashing ubuntu just trying to log in.
[19:39] <Xiaolin> at least i think its not heat or power, this problem seems to have a forceful hatred towards logic.
[19:39] <Jonii> hitsujiTMO: what part? The part I'd really like to see would be option to disable stuff while playing(oh yeah, I have 12.4), but that's more like feature request than bug
[19:39] <Jonii> Haven't ever filed a bug report :|
[19:39] <Jofironses> Hello, would someone know of a proxy server that connects to the client? Maybe what I need is a proxy, I want to open access to my network, but cannot listen on any ports.
[19:40] <Xiaolin> Jonii:  you could make a script that will launch the game and disable the shortcut.
[19:40] <DanTheDane> Jonii: That shortcut is rather basic, and changing it to something else of your liking shouldn't cause any issues later on.
[19:40] <b3x> Xiaolin, so, games and videos work the video card, if you got a nice video card it is probably doing some battery saving (lower power) when your not using it .. then it starts using more power when you fire up a game or video and it powers off
[19:41] <b3x> heat will typically lock a machine up, unless you got some emergency power off options when a hreshold is crossed
[19:41] <ansel> hello
[19:41] <Xiaolin> b3x: i tried disabling the drivers while under windows, but then i realized i never installed drivers for it on ubuntu (there arent any)
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> Jonii: you can file it either way. there's a lot of issues with the alt key atm because of the hud. it breaking games and other apps is certainly a bug. but if you want to suggest a work around that you'd be happy with then make a feature suggestion
[19:41] <b3x> what kind of card is it?
[19:42] <Xiaolin> ATI FireGL 5200 (modified by HP, which is why i cant get drivers for it)
[19:43] <oxmox> hi i have trouble with my hdd's some software is reading or writing on the hdd's  how can i see what is using the hdd's ?
[19:43] <Xiaolin> 2006 laptop hp compaq nw8440
[19:44] <Xiaolin> i think top handles that?
[19:44] <cigrits> ocmox "iotop -o"
[19:44] <mah454> Hello
[19:44] <mah454> Modem-manager automatic disconnect ttyACM0 !!!!
[19:44] <cigrits> if you dont have iotop  do "sudo apt-get intstall iotop"
[19:44] <ansel> helo
[19:44] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[19:44] <Xiaolin> oxmox: he means for you to type that in a terminal without the quotation
[19:45] <mah454> I add this line to udev : ATTRS{idVendor}=="0e8d", ATTRS{idProduct}=="2000",  ENV{ID_MM_DEVICE_IGNORE}="1"
[19:45] <jhutchins> mah454: What problem?
[19:45] <mah454> but not work !
[19:45] <ansel> sdf
[19:45] <ansel> a
[19:45] <Mendel> hey guys
[19:45] <Xiaolin> hi
[19:46] <mah454> jhutchins: My problem is this : http://pastebin.com/0uZyheTg
[19:46] <Mendel> this is probly going to be long to explain but can someone activly help me? im making for fist application using glade (a web browser
[19:47] <Mendel> i wrote alot of lines of code but when i try to do quickly run it says there is an error
[19:47] <Xiaolin> Mendel: you might wanna try a software channel that specifically with the type of code you are working with
[19:47] <Mendel> what do u mean?
[19:47] <Mendel> whats a software channel
[19:48] <Xiaolin> browse the available channels here on freenode, look for something like #Glade
[19:48] <oxmox> thx i just installed and opened it
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> Mendel: what language is this written? this is ubuntu support not an app dev channel.
[19:48] <Mendel> like the option for ubuntu i look for one that says glade?
[19:48] <Mendel> on this program?
[19:48] <Xiaolin> yep
[19:49] <Mendel> so i gotta leave this chat to do that right?
[19:49] <Xiaolin> nope
[19:49] <Xiaolin> you can have many tabs open with multiple channels
[19:51] <Xiaolin> welcome back
[19:51] <wildon> lo
[19:51] <wildon> lod
[19:52] <Xiaolin> DII: LoD
[19:52] <Christian_Bale> hi
[19:52] <Christian_Bale> I need some help with my sound card
[19:52] <Christian_Bale> can anyone help?
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> !sound | Christian_Bale start with this
[19:52] <b3x> but, your the f'ing batman
[19:53] <Allison43> Christian_Bale, what is your soundcard?
[19:53] <Christian_Bale> ALC889A
[19:53] <Christian_Bale> but batman don't know ubuntu
[19:53] <Christian_Bale> I get sound
[19:53] <b3x> I bet Alfred does
[19:53] <Christian_Bale> But when I test Front Right it gets choppy
[19:53] <Xiaolin> bet your sweet buttox he does
[19:54] <Christian_Bale> and I see Headphone pops up and disappears
[19:54] <Xiaolin> anyone know who Damian Wayne is?
[19:54] <b3x> yes
[19:54] <Xiaolin> dont answer that, its OT
[19:54] <Mendel> xiaolin: i cant find a channel #glade
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> Christian_Bale: that could be a connectivity issue. are all the cables in correctly?
[19:55] <Xiaolin> Mendel: sry bud, im on windows using a webchat service. i dont remember xchat enough to tell you what to look for
[19:55] <GTB3NW> Having issues with flash audio, it's delayed by maybe half a second when it starts playing, videos seem to be in sync, it's just the audio stream takes half a second to start actually playing in my device, anything I can do about that?
[19:55] <Christian_Bale> hitsujiTMO, yes they are and I tried on Windows everything is fine
[19:55] <GTB3NW> other audio sources are fine, start straight away
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | Mendel
[19:55] <Christian_Bale> hitsujiTMO, I had this problem in the past and I did something but I don't remember what I did exactly
[19:56] <Mendel> is there someone who can take a look at my code? maybe I have basic mistakes that can be easily spoted...
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> Christian_Bale: what driver is loaded: lspci -k | grep Audio -A 3
[19:56] <Xiaolin> b3x: btw, thats what im naming my son when he makes his escape this march
[19:57] <b3x> Mendel, according to glade.gnome.org you want to join #glade3 on irc.gimp.net
[19:57] <Christian_Bale> hitsujiTMO, snd_hda_intel
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> Mendel: you should visit a channel for that language... what language is it?
[19:57] <b3x> Xiaolin, Alfred?
[19:57] <Xiaolin> Damian Wayne
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> Mendel  what language is the code? you may wa,t to ask in the appropriate channel
[19:57] <Mendel> its code im learning to write from youtube
[19:58] <Xiaolin> he will forever be confused as to why i call him Robin
[19:58] <Mendel> i dont know how to find different channels
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> Mendel  /msg alis list *your_word_here*
[19:58] <b3x> Mendel, as I said ... on the glade.gnome.org site it says their channel is #glade3 on irc.gimp.net
[19:59] <Xiaolin> b3x: he doesnt know how to switch channels let alone servers.
[19:59] <b3x> Xiaolin, but he arrived here?
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> Mendel  and you want to start coding?
[19:59] <hitsujiTMO> Christian_Bale: there can be issue with pulseaudio and that driver.
[19:59] <Mendel> yep
[19:59] <Xiaolin> xchat is configured that way in ubuntu
[19:59] <Mendel> doesnt hurt to try
[19:59] <Xiaolin> it auto opens this channel
[19:59] <Mendel> the stuff is really interesting
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> Christian_Bale: dropping the audio levels in the pa mixer seems to be a fix for some
[20:00] <Mendel> i have to search for the  channel glade3?
[20:00] <Xiaolin> Mendel: i know where you are coming from. i barely knew what linux was and the first thing i tried was coding bash scripts to do stuff i hadnt a clue about
[20:01] <Mendel> i downloaded linux last week. before that i didnt know what an operating system was
[20:01] <Xiaolin> Mendel: no, you need to first switch servers to irc.gimp.net and then find the channel glade3
[20:01] <Mendel> but now i can do tons of stuff on the terminal
[20:01] <Mendel> how do i switch servers
[20:01] <GTB3NW> anyone able to recommend an audio player for me? I'm a big foobar fan, but would rather not add another layer between the kernel by running it in wine
[20:01] <Xiaolin> you are currently on irc.freenode.net
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> Mendel  i guess you best start here http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[20:02] <b3x> GTB3NW, Audacious is pretty decent
[20:02] <Gilligan94> Hi I intend to chuck the 14.04 dailies on a spare drive to watch it's progress, I'll be dual booting it with Windows 8.1, what do I need to do to get it to boot the USB in UEFI mode so that the bootloader installs correctly?
[20:02] <GTB3NW> b3x, what is the plugin community like?
[20:03] <GTB3NW> people say use deadbeef but the plugins community looks trash
[20:03] <Gilligan94> Ausacious is pretty good plugin wise
[20:03] <Gilligan94> *Audacious
[20:03] <GTB3NW> can't find any other than the dev repo, are they on the forums?
[20:04] <b3x> GTB3NW, ya , I just use it vanilla ... I will say that I know it struggles to import libraries with 30k+ songs ;)
[20:04] <GTB3NW> haha
[20:04] <GTB3NW> only running 2k atm
[20:04] <GTB3NW> ty, looks like a nice choice, how well does it integrate with xfce>?
[20:05] <Arun> Hi i have a tp-link tl-wn723n usb wifi adapter but its not working in ubuntu 12.04, can anyone help me with this issue? :)
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> Gilligan94  14.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until final release
[20:07] <Gilligan94> Thanks MonkeyDust
[20:07] <b3x> GTB3NW, I run it with XFCE ... check out the classic look if your like me and nostalgic for the old winamp <3 days ;)
[20:07] <ansel> your welcome
[20:07] <ansel> hey tell me command line for ubuntu
[20:07] <GTB3NW> b3x, thanks, I will :)
[20:07] <Mendel> how do i get to a channel about glade
[20:07] <ansel> anyone has command for terminal
[20:08] <bekks> ansel: which coomand?
[20:08] <bekks> *command
[20:08] <ansel> for hacking beeks
[20:08] <ansel> ya command
[20:08] <Mendel> to open terminal ctrt+alt+t
[20:08] <ansel> how to hack wifi using terminal
[20:08] <Xiaolin> b3x: do you know what kind of error this could be, "Broadcast message from root@ubuntu (unknown)"
[20:08] <ansel> mendel i have open
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: start off by telling us the chip its using: lspci -nn | grep Network
[20:08] <bekks> ansel: this is the wrong channel.
[20:09] <ansel> ok
[20:09] <b3x> Xiaolin, is that in syslog? or turning up on a term?
[20:09] <ansel> why ubuntu don't need antivirus
[20:09] <Mendel> isnt glade in ubuntu so tecknacly this is the right channel to ask about coding?
[20:09] <Arun> hitsuji: lspci -nn | grep Network returns nothing
[20:09] <Xiaolin> b3x: during system crash, i guess its popping up on a tty?
[20:09] <ansel> ok i am going.. bubye
[20:10] <ansel> bubye and good morning to everyone
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: is this a usb wifi adapter?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> Mendel  coding may be beyond the scope of this channel, visit this link https://glade.gnome.org/
[20:10] <Arun> hitsuji: ya
[20:10] <b3x> Xiaolin, does it immediately follow a "checking battey State" msg?
[20:10] <b3x> *battery
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: please pastebin the output of: lsusb
[20:10] <jc_> hitsujiTMO: Finally got it working! I had to purge the xorg PPA and add the xedgers one, I then installed the proper drivers with synaptic and finally activated them, now it all finally working! Again thanks for the assistance
[20:11] <Xiaolin> Mendel: this channel is mainly for general OS issues, coding isnt an issue but a job or a hobby.
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | jc_
[20:11] <Arun> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[20:11] <Arun> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[20:11] <Arun> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[20:11] <Arun> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:11] <Arun> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:11] <FloodBot1> Arun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <Arun> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:11] <Mendel> why are you sending me to thier website i already have the program downloaded
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[20:11] <Mendel> i have questions about code that i wrote
[20:11] <Arun> sorry
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> Mendel what language is the code in?
[20:12] <Arun> hitsuji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686782/
[20:12] <Xiaolin> Mendel: this channel will not help you with that other than to point you in the right direction. best uestion for you to ask right now (which google can answer quicker) is how to switch irc servers in xchat.
[20:13] <Mendel> kk thankss
[20:13] <Mendel> that helpes
[20:13] <Arun> hitsuji: device 009 is my gsm modem i'm online using that
[20:13] <Xiaolin> b3x: its really fast, i can crash a few more times and try to read it.
[20:13] <jhutchins> !paste
[20:13] <evon> Is there a way to run linux off a USB without booting from it or using a VM while inside windows?  I don't have admin privileges on the computer I'm using and I'd like to use GIMP without installing it.
[20:14] <b3x> Xiaolin, did you see the link?
[20:15] <Xiaolin> no sry was typing, stupid webchat isnt color coded. prolly shouldnt be calling my lifeline stupid atm
[20:15] <b3x> http://askubuntu.com/questions/351462/unexpected-shutdown
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2172877     seems to be covered here
[20:16] <Xiaolin> b3x: i recognize those words like the acpi exiting, dont think it said battery state. but i will go crash it and double check.
[20:16] <Xiaolin> if it does say that, what are the implicattions?
[20:16] <Mendel> once i conect to irc chat wich one is right for my problem?
[20:16] <Xiaolin> #glade3
[20:17] <b3x> Xiaolin, just that it is probably over heating and you ought to hit that lapop with some compressed air to see if its dusty
[20:17] <oxmox> is there something iotop dont show because my hdd is doing something but iotop dont show much ?
[20:17] <Xiaolin> you can leave this server and channel running, and still be able to chat with irc.gimp at the same time
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> evon: no. but ... http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable
[20:17] <Arun> hitsuji: will try that
[20:18] <Xiaolin> i frickin love portableapps
[20:19] <Xiaolin> b3x: do you really think i could go from cold boot to overheating within seconds?
[20:19] <evon> hitsujiTMO: Thanks
[20:19] <Xiaolin> b3x: windows has been running all day, ubuntu crashes when i try to switch window managers at the login
[20:19] <b3x> Xiaolin, well, its either that or Ubuntu thinks its over heating ...
[20:19] <MrCurious> ugh, 1 change, locked myself out of MAAS ontrol panel
[20:20] <Joel> when can I tell which versions of ubuntu a package "applies" to? I'm interested in when the default-jdk package came into existance, and what versions of ubuntu it applies to
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> Joel: you could check its changelog
[20:21] <b3x> Xiaolin, try running sensors and see what the output is
[20:21] <Joel> hitsujiTMO: good thought. thanks.
[20:21] <trism> Joel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/java-common/+publishinghistory
[20:21] <Pici> Joel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/madison.cgi as well
[20:22] <Xiaolin> b3x: ive had this thing running at over 90c (checked it using a free sensor app for windows) currently its not. but i will crash a couple times right now while monitoring also boot back to ubuntu and try to catch the rest of that error.
[20:23] <nemo> Xiaolin: temp1:         +9.6°C  (high = +70.0°C)
[20:23] <nemo> Xiaolin: from sensors on my desktop :)
[20:23] <nemo> ♥ water cooling
[20:24] <Xiaolin> this whole issue is all my fault, 2006 laptops should NOT be running Skyrim or emulating a PS2
[20:24] <nemo> Xiaolin: before I got the water cooling, I had a cronjob that forced kill of overactive processes if temperature got too high
[20:24] <nemo> mm
[20:24] <nemo> Xiaolin: you could get one of those cooling desks for it maybe
[20:24] <nemo> lap desks
[20:25] <Xiaolin> yeah i have a cheap lap fan on it now
[20:25] <nemo> oh well. score one for desktops :)
[20:25] <TheL00ter79>  Testing new client
[20:25] <Xiaolin> running open hardware monitor now, about to launch youtube and crash
[20:25] <nemo> Xiaolin: I've run burnMMX on all 6 cores and temperature has not gone over 40°C :)
[20:26] <nemo> Xiaolin: hm. for youtube, maybe use HTML5 video instead?
[20:26] <nemo> Xiaolin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-all-html5/
[20:26] <Xiaolin> so far we dont know for sure what the problem is, i dont think its over heating, but maybe a sensor inside is fried
[20:27] <nemo> Xiaolin: you checked your xorg log and dmesg already right?
[20:27] <Xiaolin> attempted to yesterday, and thats when ubuntu started crashing before i could log in or very soon after. even tried using a tty to check the logs and it still crashed
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: is it doing an immedite reboot or what?
[20:28] <Xiaolin> no i told the bios to leave it off after power failures, so it just shutsdown
[20:29] <TheL00ter79> testy
[20:29] <Arun> hitsuji: i followed that post but "sudo lshw -c network " is showing only http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686888/
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: but is it a hard halt. or does it go thru the shutdown procedure?
[20:29] <Xiaolin> hard n fast
[20:29] <Arun> hitsuji: uname-r showed "3.2.0-56-generic-pae"
[20:30] <TheL00ter79> hello everybody
[20:30] <Xiaolin> temp is at 60c right now, here goes the crash
[20:31] <nemo> Xiaolin: can't ssh in to check log?
[20:31] <Xiaolin> 51 seconds buffered
[20:31] <nemo> Xiaolin: also
[20:31] <Xiaolin> gonna crash any second
[20:31] <Xiaolin> wont be able to read
[20:31] <nemo> Xiaolin: if this just started happening. tried falling back to old kernel?
[20:31] <Xiaolin> tried that
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2150729 then.
[20:31] <mmmmmmm> Hi I have this on my bootdmesg >> ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000000830-0x000000000000083f SystemIO conflicts with Region \GPRL 1 (20130517/utaddress-251)
[20:31] <Xiaolin> this happens in windows as well just not as severe
[20:32] <Arun> hitsuji: ok
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: is that cpu temp or gpu temp?
[20:32] <Xiaolin> 1:50 buffered, crash must be coming soon
[20:32] <Xiaolin> cpu, gpu drivers are disabled
[20:33] <Xiaolin> surprised im still running
[20:33] <Xiaolin> temp went up to 70c
[20:33] <mmmmmmm> can it be fixed
[20:34] <Xiaolin> see what i mean, this issue refuses to follow logic.
[20:34] <Xiaolin> here i am proving a point and it just to spite me it keeps on keepin on
[20:35] <Xiaolin> ok, ill open 5 youtube videos and see what it thinks of that
[20:36] <mmmmmmm> I also have id-generic 0003:06CB:5710.0002: usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed: -1
[20:36] <Xiaolin> temp now at 80c
[20:36] <mmmmmmm> which slows boot
[20:37] <mihai> hi everyone!
[20:37] <bekks> mmmmmmm: then plug out that device for booting.
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> mmmmmmm: what is the exact make and model of the laptop and what version of ubuntu is this?
[20:37] <Xiaolin> if this flash game loads im gonna smash this thing for laughing at me
[20:38] <Xiaolin> jk, no rash decisions will be made this day
[20:38] <mmmmmmm> hitsujiTMO: Split x2 HP
[20:38] <IonutMihai> does anyone have the latest version of xubuntu installed?
[20:38] <bekks> !anyone | IonutMihai
[20:38] <mmmmmmm> bekks: I can't
[20:38] <Xiaolin> almost at 90c, i usually dont let it get beyond 100c
[20:38] <bekks> mmmmmmm: why not?
[20:38] <GTB3NW> b3x, love classic, thanks :)
[20:39] <mmmmmmm> bekks: It's the famous synaptics v103s touchpad
[20:39] <mmmmmmm> lol
[20:40] <angel> hi
[20:40] <IonutMihai> can somebody answer me some questions about the latest xubuntu release?
[20:41] <Arun> hitsuji: that solved the issue :) thank you :)
[20:41] <Xiaolin> IonutMihai: in this channel, almost everyoe has at least 3 flavors of linux installed. so odds are yes someone here does.
[20:41] <mmmmmmm> ok, ignore that
[20:42] <Guest9019> Hello , i need offline copy of this driver , Atheros AR8161 Ethernet Controller
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> mmmmmmm: seems to be lots of issue with your laptop and 13.10. it's seems its all very much too new.
[20:42] <IonutMihai> i'm a newbie so sorry for my silly questions. However , can you help me with my issue , please? I understand if you don't have time for the easy ones - no problem
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | arun
[20:42] <Xiaolin> so my laptop just made me out to be a liar, its like this laptop is making me pay for all the good times we've had.
[20:43] <seanh_> Hey does anyone know whether this Wacom Bamboo Pad (http://www.wacom.com/en/us/everyday/bamboo-pad-usb) is supported in Ubuntu? And whether the gestures work for navigation etc?
[20:43] <mmmmmmm> hitsujiTMO: Yes, and two Launchpad bugs 1189721 and 1265883
[20:43] <IonutMihai> when i update to the latest xubuntu version , the pc simply doesnt load the os so i have to reinstall an old version -13.04
[20:43] <IonutMihai> i've tried 3 times in a row
[20:43] <Arun> :)
[20:43] <mmmmmmm> now i use a 3.13-rc6 kernel
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> mmmmmmm: the acpi thing should have another bug report. if not you should report a bug on it
[20:43] <greasyfat> ne1 use kubuntu desktop
[20:44] <greasyfat> what is kubuntu dekstop
[20:44] <rww> greasyfat: KDE with an Ubuntu base
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> mmmmmmm: personally i'd use it as an excuse to test out 14.04
[20:44] <mknarr> IonutMihai, Dose it load anything please explain
[20:44] <greasyfat> how come my icons sometime disappear off my desktop
[20:44] <greasyfat> seems random which apps stick and which dont
[20:44] <Xiaolin> greasyfat: its just another flavor of ubuntu, centered around education and eye candy.
[20:44] <IonutMihai> No , it simply freezes - black screen
[20:44] <IonutMihai> i've waited even 30 mins and nothing
[20:44] <mknarr> IonutMihai,  can you hit  alt+f1 to get to a terminal ?
[20:45] <greasyfat> well eye candy is always good but im more interested in ease of use
[20:45] <Xiaolin> b3x: well my laptop just suashed the overheating aspect, im running like normal at 90c. no issues... wtf
[20:45] <IonutMihai> now i can
[20:45] <rww> ctrl alt f1, probably
[20:45] <greasyfat> 90c lol
[20:45] <mknarr> IonutMihai, ok it sounds like it could be possibly your video drivers not starting lightdm or X
[20:46] <greasyfat> u gonna boil yer nards off with that laptop
[20:46] <mknarr> download the latest video drivers for your videocard and install them
[20:46] <mknarr> IonutMihai, then reboot your computer
[20:46] <greasyfat> when i installed ubuntu it made the boot partition too small, now i cant do upgrades
[20:46] <Xiaolin> greasyfat: ease of use i would give to plain Ubuntu out the box, but all of them support fancy apps that make stuff easier, like docks and launchers and all sorts of crazy features that are generally compatible between each flavor
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: intel or amd?
[20:47] <mmmmmmm> hitsujiTMO: Will 14.04 be "touchable"? xd Chromium seems to work fine with toucscreen but Firefox doesn't
[20:47] <greasyfat> im stuck on 13.04 cuz keeps saying /boot is full
[20:47] <angel> Which easy-to-use program I can use for subtitle a video?
[20:47] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: intel with ati graphics
[20:47] <Xiaolin> angel: use DeVeDe
[20:47] <greasyfat> angel u cant use linux for videos cuz all the codecs are closed source proprietary
[20:47] <mknarr> IonutMihai, Let me know if that works for you :D
[20:48] <Xiaolin> ignore him
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: odd. most intel cpus i've used have a hard cutoff of 80C
[20:48] <Xiaolin> i normally run this at 90c, all day.
[20:48] <microm> I have not installed a printer in years, I can't find the PPD file for a Canon imageClass I just bought... are PPD file still the way to go? The manufacturer does not have one it seems.
[20:48] <greasyfat> hiji the mobo decides the cut off not the cpu
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> greasyfat: remove old kernels
[20:48] <greasyfat> hitsuji how do i do that?
[20:49] <mknarr> microm, can i get the model # of your printer please
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> greasyfat: pastebin the ouput of: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[20:49] <greasyfat> nmi see
[20:49] <microm> mf4890dw
[20:50] <greasyfat> i can justs use fil explorer and delete?
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> mmmmmmm: not sure to be honest. there was a huge improvement with touch in 13.10 and i'm hoping for better support again in 14.04. Main issue tho is that app developers aren't adding touch support themselves. not even google with chrome
[20:51] <mknarr> michaelni, http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction/black_white_laser_multifunction/imageclass_mf4890dw#DriversAndSoftware
[20:51] <Xiaolin> is it possible that ubuntu utilizes my vram even without drivers?
[20:51] <mknarr> microm, http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction/black_white_laser_multifunction/imageclass_mf4890dw#DriversAndSoftware
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> greasyfat: thats the worst way to remove packages
[20:52] <greasyfat> i see headers, image, extra, image-generic
[20:52] <microm> mknarr: I have installed that package. But it does not contain a PPD file, and in cups, it does not list the printer driver. I want to connect over ethernet.
[20:52] <angel> thank you I have a look
[20:53] <RedHatter> is there anyway to get unity notifications to stack instead of waiting for the previous one to disappear?
[20:53] <Xiaolin> okay then, since windows suddenly wants to work properly, ill switch to ubuntu and see if it crashes again.
[20:53] <greasyfat> of various versions 3.8.0-19, 3.8.0-27, 3.8.0-29,30
[20:53] <mknarr> microm, ok give me a min to look up something else
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> greasyfat: can you pastebin the output please
[20:53] <greasyfat> whats the short cut for copy
[20:53] <greasyfat> its not going to my clipboard
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> ctrl + shift + c
[20:53] <universal> how to create a local mirror with selected packages and their dependencies ?
[20:54] <microm> mknarr: thanks
[20:54] <greasyfat> just prints^C
[20:54] <greasyfat> using xterm on kubuntu
[20:55] <rww> !xterm
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> universal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[20:55] <rww> aww
[20:55] <rww> greasyfat: use konsole instead?
[20:55] <rww> xterm is awful
[20:55] <mihai_> what programming language do you recommend to learn before going to college? And, ofcourse , is it smart in doing so...
[20:55] <mihai_> ?
[20:55] <greasyfat> switchingto konsole
[20:55] <rww> mihai_: C and C++
[20:56] <nemo> mihai_: I'd go w/ C, Java, Javascript personally
[20:56] <beandog> rww: always a good answer
[20:56] <rww> mihai_: and not really, if you're doing computer science they'll teach you to program
[20:56] <nemo> javascript is just so accessible
[20:56] <ariel_17> mihai_: python <3
[20:56] <microm> mihai_: the best is to learn to learn many languages
[20:56] <greasyfat> linux-firmware                                  install
[20:56] <greasyfat> linux-generic                                   install
[20:56] <greasyfat> linux-headers-3.8.0-19                          install
[20:56] <greasyfat> linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic                  install
[20:56] <nemo> Oo
[20:56] <FloodBot1> greasyfat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <greasyfat> linux-headers-3.8.0-26                          install
[20:56] <greasyfat> linux-headers-3.8.0-26-generic                  install
[20:56] <universal> hitsujiTMO: ok I'll read the page but is the same task possible with debmirror ? what I understand is that it will whole server directory mirror and not of few packages with their dependencies
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> greasyfat: use a pastebin site such as paste.ubuntu.com
[20:57] <mihai_> thank you very much
[20:58] <greasyfat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6687060/
[20:58] <greasyfat> didnt know about that site
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> universal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror for debmirror. either way you can be selective about what packages to mirror
[20:58] <mknarr> microm, found the PPD files
[20:58] <mihai_> i will go for C and C++
[20:58] <nemo> greasyfat: didn't read the channel topic when you joined?
[20:58] <dcain> Hello I am in need of some assistance.
[20:59] <greasyfat> im using 13.04
[20:59] <greasyfat> i wanna get to the latest version
[20:59] <Beldar> dcain, Tell the channel your issue for help.
[20:59] <mknarr> microm, Linux_UFRII_PrinterDriver_V270_us_EN\Linux_UFRII_PrinterDriver_V270_us_EN\Sources\cndrvcups-lb-2.70-1\cndrvcups-lb-2.70\ppd
[20:59] <lickalott> is hitman still here?
[20:59] <greasyfat> so what should i do just delete the old images?
[20:59] <greasyfat> oris there a better way
[21:00] <universal> hitsujiTMO: it appears that "what packages to mirror" is whole section and not just a package with its dependencies, for eg. if I only want to mirror ubuntu-restricted-extras package with few others
[21:00] <dcain> I cant seem to enable my sound again. It was working fine before I installed skype. Im running 13.10 if thats what you mean by telling the channel
[21:01] <microm> mknarr: mknarr: ah... why did I think of opening the sub-tar file... thanks.
[21:01] <mknarr> microm,  np :D
[21:02] <dcain> Nevermind it will work with headphones
[21:02] <dcain> But not without
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> greasyfat: please run http://paste.ubuntu.com/6687079/
[21:04] <RedHatter> is there anyway to get unity notifications to stack instead of waiting for the previous one to disappear?
[21:04] <greasyfat> ah purge
[21:04] <greasyfat> brilliant
[21:05] <greasyfat> freeing up like a gig
[21:05] <greasyfat> this will do it!
[21:05] <greasyfat> ty
[21:05] <greasyfat> konsole owns xterm too good call
[21:05] <cihhan> Hi all! Did anyone try OpenStack on Ubuntu 12.04 for multiple machines?
[21:05] <universal> hitsujiTMO: ?
[21:06] <Atlantic777> It seems that I can't use 3 video outputs at the same time. Any two can work at the same time (HDMI, VGA, built in laptop display) but all 3 can't.
[21:06] <greasyfat> learned about pastebin konsole dpkg all in one day lol
[21:07] <Atlantic777> Is that normal or not?
[21:07] <karl___> is the preferred method of upgrading a source compiled software to uninstall the old and install the new, or simply to install the new?
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> universal: if its just a handful of packages you could create a chroot debootstrap and install the parent packages into that. the dependencies and parent packages wille be found in the apt-archive
[21:08] <greasyfat> are the LAV filters all open sourcce?
[21:08] <greasyfat> and enuf to play video
[21:08] <greasyfat> is there an all open source video player for kubuntu
[21:08] <universal> hitsujiTMO: link ?
[21:09] <Calinou> greasyfat, LAV? "all open source"?
[21:09] <greasyfat> yeah i wanna play videos but i know i cant do flash cuz its closed source
[21:09] <Beldar> cihhan, That is more of a polling issue this is support.
[21:10] <dcain> Flash is in the ubuntu software center greasyfat
[21:10] <simone> !list
[21:11] <greasyfat> it wont run cuz i have no closed source third party configured
[21:11] <Xiaolin> ok so windows worked fine, ubuntu decided to be faithful and crash.
[21:11] <dcain> oh
[21:11] <greasyfat> i tried litespark
[21:11] <greasyfat> but it is discontinued
[21:12] <Xiaolin> i got the details on that broadcast message too. but its written in engrish... pls tell me the ubuntu team was trying to be funny.
[21:13] <Xiaolin> The system is going down for power off NOW! / acpid: exiting
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> universal: any debootstrap tutorial i can find goes beyond what you need. try https://wiki.tenmilesout.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Debootstrap_Efi_Minimal_Install you only need to make the basic chroot and fix up apt source and possibly resolv.conf. you can then apt-get the packages and you'll find them in the apt-archive. you can build your mirror from them instead
[21:15] <Xiaolin> anyone got a clue what could cause a message like that?
[21:15] <cihhan> Beldar, I have issues with OpenStack configuration might be related to Ubuntu
[21:16] <Beldar> cihhan, Cool, then address them for help.
[21:16] <karl___> Xiaolin, what about that message appears to be unusual or "Engrish" to you?
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: thats something telling the system to shutdown. thats not caused by temps. check syslog and dmesg.1 from just before the shudown to see whats causing it
[21:17] <funky1> is gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor something i can remove if i'm not using a graphical desktop?
[21:17] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: its not using proper english. "for power off NOW!" sounds asian in my head, i just keep imagining a japanese guy screaming that at me.
[21:18] <karl___> Xiaolin, i'm not sure it's a joke...been reading that message for years and never interpreted it that way. Who knows, you could be right; it's just the standard system shutdown line though
[21:19] <karl___> Xiaolin, i think it is "NOW" because it is being specific about the command line parameter provided to shutdown for when to shutdown... it could say "In 10 minutes" or something similar instead if provided with that parameter instead of the now parameter
[21:19] <karl___> Xiaolin, eg, shutdown -h now
[21:20] <lickalott> gents, i know how to add an icon to the unity bar, but how can i get a custom shortcut to a location added?
[21:20] <Xiaolin> yeah i assumed that part, but it sounds funny considering all the engrish jokes that i see playing Tera
[21:20] <karl___> probably unintentional
[21:21] <greasyfat> i had unity for 2 months
[21:21] <greasyfat> did not like it
[21:21] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: sounds like i need to boot from a usb stick and pray it runs? in order to check those logs.
[21:21] <tables> how can i do full disk encryption with ubuntu setup?
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> lickalott: you need to create a .desktop file for it in ~/.local/share/applications/
[21:22] <greasyfat> im using FDE u just  have to install
[21:22] <tables> is it only from the alternate install cd?
[21:22] <Beldar> lickalott, unity bar is the left side panel or the top panel?
[21:22] <greasyfat> it camewith 13.04 for me
[21:22] <tables> greasyfat: which install cd is it?
[21:22] <greasyfat> i just downloaded it
[21:22] <lickalott> i don't have an applications folder in  my .local.  I made one but I assumed it should've already been there right?
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: you could do
[21:22] <lickalott> and it's on the right hitsujiTMO
[21:22] <rath> In what channel are the Ubuntu translations being discussed? In this channel or is there a separete developer channel for that?
[21:23] <karl___> Xiaolin, you could just mount the filesystem from windows since it sounds like you're dual booting
[21:23] <greasyfat> maybe cinnamon
[21:23] <greasyfat> no
[21:23] <greasyfat> how do u know what distro u have what command do u run
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> lickalott: its not there unless some app has created it
[21:23] <Xiaolin> lickalott: right click the folder icon on the unity bar, you will see locations that youve favorited i believe.
[21:23] <bekks> greasyfat: lsb_release -a
[21:23] <lickalott> negative Xiaolin
[21:23] <greasyfat> Ubuntu 13.04 install CD had FDE option, and i'm using it
[21:24] <Xiaolin> lickalott: theres a way to edit a text file and add more of those right click items, its been a long time since i done it though.
[21:24] <Xiaolin> figure out what those are called and you can google how to add custom entires
[21:24] <anomymous-hacker> hi
[21:24] <greasyfat> i believe even /boot is encrypted
[21:24] <bn`> Is there a problem with the VirtualHost directory from apache2 in the default ubuntu 13.10 configuration and how to fix it?
[21:25] <bn`> VirtualHost directive*
[21:25] <anomymous-hacker> help
[21:25] <Xiaolin> karl___: yes i am dual booting, ill have to install the drivers to be able to mount the filesystem, got a link handy?
[21:25] <lickalott> i've been googling.  found some other cool stuff but nothing that helps my specific situation.  Basically i've mapped my windows 7 hard (fstab) and created a shortcut on the desktop, but i'm never on the desktop and it's sort of a pita to have to do to the desktop everytime when the launcher is right there.
[21:25] <karl___> Xiaolin, no, just google for whatever filesystem you are using drivers for windows
[21:26] <Xiaolin> thanks for the idea, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions, i had forgotten that was possible.
[21:26] <Beldar> anomymous-hacker, state the issues for help.
[21:26] <anomymous-hacker> minimun ram for xubuntu?
[21:27] <beandog> anomymous-hacker: mm, 2GB+ you'll be fine
[21:27] <Xiaolin> karl___: you need to find out what those right click entries are called, you add it to the nautilus icon when you do.
[21:27] <lickalott> Xiaolin,  just edit your fstab, but I would reccomend using the UUID vs the /dev/sda approach
[21:27] <karl___> Xiaolin, i think you wanted to send that to lickalott
[21:27] <lickalott> I have a template you can work off of it you're interested
[21:27] <anomymous-hacker> thnx
[21:27] <Beldar> anomymous-hacker, http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[21:28] <Xiaolin> yes i did
[21:28] <anomymous-hacker> where i can install kde for xubuntu
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> bn`: sed -i 's/fox/log' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
[21:28] <Beldar> anomymous-hacker, The command line
[21:28] <Xiaolin> lickalott: i know how to edit fstab to mount things, what you need to do is add the location to nautlius context menu.
[21:29] <Xiaolin> im googling now to figure out what i did before
[21:29] <Beldar> anomymous-hacker, kde is just a desktop, there is no for xubuntu.
[21:29] <lickalott> oh, I thought you were asking karl__ about how to access your windows 7 partition
[21:30] <Stooge> hello what "reset" in the terminal does?
[21:30] <bekks> Stooge: It resets terminal settings.
[21:30] <raub> What would you suggest for me to connect to my imap accounts and move emails between those accounts (into directories) based on some filtering criteria?
[21:30] <raub> Command line though
[21:30] <Stooge> ok thanks
[21:30] <Xiaolin> lickalott: yeah we sorted that one out, i was trying to help you add the custom location to unity
[21:31] <lickalott> k.  we're on the same page now.  LOL
[21:31] <Stooge> The filenames encoding got messed up after I switched from English to Thai and then back to English... File names look like this  \ é¬¼æã¡ã²ã\ -\ éãé³¥.flac.
[21:31] <Stooge> When I list the files in the terminal they have the proper names just in the gui it is wrong..
[21:31] <bn`> hitsujiTMO: the logs do not say anything about this issue
[21:31] <Xiaolin> lickalott: may or may not help. http://lifehacker.com/5794701/add-places-menu-functionality-to-ubuntus-unity-launcher
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> bn`: and whats happening that its not working for you?
[21:33] <lickalott> thk you sir
[21:33] <bn`> the <VirtualHost> directive is being ignored.
[21:34] <jpasco22> bnsoir tous le monde
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> bn`: and its propperly linked in /etc/apache/sites-enabled
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> ?
[21:36] <bn`> yes... do I need to tell apache2 the available domain names somewhere before I can use it in VirtualHost
[21:37] <bn`> I never had to.
[21:37] <Xiaolin> lickalott: was that what you were looking for?
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> bn`: no domain names get specified in virtualhost only
[21:37] <lickalott> think so.  Still in the process of trying it out.
[21:40] <Xiaolin> oh god these logs are sooo hard to read in windows...
[21:42] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: i have no clue what to look for in this dmesg log.
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: no new lines?
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: pastebin the logs]
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: pastebin /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog
[21:43] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: just pasting it into pastebin made it far easier to read lol
[21:44] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: i have dmesg.0 open. thats not the one you want?
[21:44] <streulma> hello, can you brick your Macbook with installing Linux on it?
[21:45]  * Stooge slaps plumblum around a bit with a large trout
[21:45] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/QYKFwZn9   this is dmesg
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: dmesg would be better. i asked for dmesg.0 as that would have been from the previous ubuntu instance if you had booted inti ubuntu again
[21:46] <streulma> it is not cat /var/log/dmesg
[21:46] <Xiaolin> theres the more recent one
[21:46] <streulma> but it is the command dmesg I think
[21:46] <bonez2046> I am installing dual boot on a new replacement hdd...has to have win 8 first...do I set up the various partitions (win8, ubuntu, swap, and common data) during win 8 time or after using the ubuntu setup?
[21:46] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: you can stop reading
[21:47] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: i found the line "Critical temperature reached shutting down." its near the bottom of syslog
[21:47] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: oddly enough this has never happened before and i know i had it running much hotter.
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> streulma: the command dmesg is from the current run. need it from the previous run
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: well at least you got verification of what the issue is
[21:48] <shiznix> hitsujiTMO Beldar: hey guys, just wanted to say thanks for the help yesterday and for putting me on the right track for gfx drivers being the reason why my new Ubuntu install would only show a blank desktop
[21:49] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: sadly i doubt ill ever understand why it started doing this now, i know ive ran it at 100c in the past.
[21:50] <shiznix> just had to manually configure an xorg.conf Device section, set the AccelMethod to "uxa" instead of the default "sna", then apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager and enable the plugins needed to get the Unity desktop in ccsm
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: well since its the OS driving the shutdown then its the OS thats choosing the temp
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | shiznix
[21:51] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: oooooooooh i do understand now. i just read it had reached 110c. i never let it get that hot before, so it must be dust causing it to rise that extra 10 degrees.
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: 110? seriously?
[21:52] <Xiaolin> b3x, i dont know if you can see this, but you were right all along.
[21:52] <Xiaolin> final line of syslog: thermal_sys: Critical temperature reached(110 C),shutting down
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: take it apart and clean the fans
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: actually, make sure the fan is even working too
[21:54] <joi> hell everyone, recentley i upgraded from ubuntu 12.04lts to 12.10 , and now when i try and boot into ubuntu it just gives me a black screen that doesnt go away unless a force shutdown, i tried editing the nomodeset method and it did not work, i also tried boot-repair nothing is working, any adice please?
[21:54] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: good point, i may have killed it considering simple youtube videos were causing an overheat. i have burnt out the wifi already due to heat (i read that was a common problem for this model)
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> hp?
[21:55] <Xiaolin> yup
[21:55] <subzer00> hi
[21:55] <Xiaolin> hp compaq
[21:55] <subzer00> i know you do not like meta questions... BUT i hope some1 is familiar with xandr ;)
[21:55] <subzer00> im trying to fix the dualview setting on a friends pc.
[21:56] <Beldar> joi, Post to the channel graphic hardware info, and if you had been using any proprietary drivers.
[21:56] <subzer00> Setup: 19" CRT monitor and a LCD tv. problem is, that the resoliion of the lcd tv not fit
[21:56] <subzer00> here the xandr log: http://pastebin.com/8brewPb8
[21:56] <subzer00> apprecitate any help :>
[21:57] <Xiaolin> i would like to thank the debian overlords for making error logs so easy to find. i doubt i would ever have found a windows error log.
[21:57] <joi> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6687159/
[21:57] <subzer00> Xiaolin: even winf00k has log files...
[21:57] <Xiaolin> i know, but i doubt i would have found them
[21:58] <Xiaolin> im googling them now just to see how difficult it woulda been
[21:59] <joi> Beldar, that is what the boot-repair gave me
[22:00] <Beldar> joi, I'm not real up on uefi issues. You are getting the grub menu right, and get a black screen when choosing ubuntu?
[22:00] <joi> Beldar, yes
[22:00] <AusMatt> Hi all
[22:01] <joi> Beldar, sometimes though, when i change it to nomodeset, it gives me the ubuntu loading screen but once all the buttons are full, it just stays like that
[22:01] <Beldar> joi, Then my guess is graphic driver issues, so to the channel state the graphic card and what drivers you were using in 12.04 and any ppa's involved
[22:01] <greasyfat> the difference between all the linuxes is the desktop mostly rite? kde vs unity?
[22:02] <Beldar> joi, Not sure what "but once all the buttons are full" means.
[22:02] <AusMatt> Would anyone be able to help me out cleaning up already installed drivers for a Brother HL-1110 and installing the printer correctly?
[22:02] <lickalott> no joy fellas.  I've tried three different ways and nada
[22:02] <Xiaolin> this looks odd, The speed of processor 0 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 0 seconds since the last report.
[22:02] <joi> Beldar, for a graphics card im using an AMD im not sure which but ill find you the model right now, and im not sure what a ppa is, i apologize
[22:02] <lickalott> it SHOULDN"T be this hard
[22:03] <lukecarrier> greasyfat, and the package managers, release cycles and packages released... they're all designed with different use cases in mind
[22:03] <joi> Beldar, by the buttons, i mean the circles under the ubuntu lettering in the loading screen that light up while you wait
[22:03] <Beldar> joi, Sure and notice the to the channel, I'm not the best help in this area, however I know the general info the people who do know need.
[22:03] <greasyfat> yum vs apt-get
[22:03] <lukecarrier> greasyfat, apt vs rpm
[22:03] <lukecarrier> greasyfat, or in BSD, ports
[22:03] <KomodoDragonKing> I know the GUI is not everything in an OS, but I feel that Ubuntu is prettier, and not as intimidating as Windows.
[22:04] <Xiaolin> lickalott: no, no the hell it should not. i remember being frustrated on a similar task myself, never did get mine to work.
[22:04] <greasyfat> so on ubuntu i hate unity i just installed kubuntu desktop
[22:04] <lukecarrier> KomodoDragonKing, out of interest, do you use Unity or KDE/Gnome/$other_alternative?
[22:04] <greasyfat> so rly not  that much of a difference
[22:04] <joi> Beldar, i was on here earlier and ActionParsnip told me to try the nomodeset, but no luck, i will get you the graphic card right now
[22:04] <lickalott> this is basic user functionality type stuff.
[22:04] <KomodoDragonKing> I tried Kubuntu but just didn't find it appealing.
[22:04] <lickalott> guess I know what I'll be doing until this conquest is fulfilled
[22:04] <lickalott> ;P
[22:04] <Beldar> joi, Post all that info to the channel, not me.
[22:04] <greasyfat> kubuntu is KDE rite i see K's everywhere
[22:05] <lukecarrier> greasyfat, depends on your perspective; I run Linux servers and personally prefer RHEL for its slower/stable release cycle
[22:05] <joi> Beldar, ok, will do
[22:05] <greasyfat> i use centos for my servers which is rhel
[22:05] <greasyfat> and yeah u dont wanna be updating it every 5 minute
[22:05] <Xiaolin> subzer00: i was right, i found the Event Viewer and been scouring the logs with no clue as to what caused the rashes.
[22:06] <lukecarrier> KomodoDragonKing, I'm not much a fan of Unity, it makes multiple monitors that little bit less usable. Pretty awesome that we have ace distros like Ubuntu Gnome around though; the choice is great
[22:06] <KomodoDragonKing> If I remember correctly, Ubuntu is Gnome based, while Kubuntu is KDE based, while Xubuntu if Xfce based.
[22:06] <greasyfat> xiaolin crashes dont always log the error
[22:06] <lukecarrier> KomodoDragonKing, the past few releases of Ubuntu Desktop have been based on Compiz/Unity
[22:06] <greasyfat> i like KDE desktop at first glance, but seems buggy
[22:07] <lukecarrier> KomodoDragonKing, they still use a lot of Gnome core, but the window management isn't part of Gnome
[22:07] <KomodoDragonKing> I'm getting the hang of all this Ubuntu stuff ha
[22:07] <Xiaolin> greasyfat: nope they did not in windows, however ubuntu had logged every last one of em.
[22:07] <Beldar> KomodoDragonKing, This is support what is your point, and do you need help?
[22:07] <greasyfat> xiao i thot u meant windows
[22:07] <KomodoDragonKing> Oh this is support? My bad
[22:08] <KomodoDragonKing> Is there a general Ubuntu discussion channel?
[22:08] <greasyfat> well linux people have come a long way
[22:08] <greasyfat> u guys are helpfully and good communicators
[22:08] <Xiaolin> greasyfat: i was thanking the debian overlord for making the logs so easily accessible.
[22:08] <Beldar> KomodoDragonKing, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:08] <KomodoDragonKing> thank you
[22:08] <Beldar> no prob
[22:08] <greasyfat> before if i ask a simple question about desktops 20 linux nerds fightfor 20 minutes
[22:08] <greasyfat> and i get no information lol
[22:09] <funky1> is gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor something i can remove if i'm not using a graphical desktop?
[22:09] <Alina-malina> how i can connect to windows machine remotely from linux machine?
[22:09] <greasyfat> that was 20 years ago
[22:11] <Xiaolin> i love this community, glad i never had to see it like that
[22:11] <greasyfat> lol u got no idea
[22:12] <Xiaolin> i havent hung out here for a while, i got hacked last time.
[22:12] <greasyfat> how
[22:12] <greasyfat> can u get hacked thru IRC?
[22:12] <Xiaolin> someone edited a text file on my desktop and wrote Hello at the bottom
[22:12] <joi> Cannot boot into ubuntu after upgrading from 12.04lts to 12.10 , my graphics card is a Intel HD graphics 4000
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> !rdp | Alina-malina
[22:12] <Alina-malina> hitsujiTMO, rdp?
[22:13] <greasyfat> IRC clients are insecure?
[22:13] <Xiaolin> which i had setup because i was remote controlling my desktop
[22:13] <greasyfat> o they found an open port
[22:13] <ColinHarrington> Who can help me debug or point me in the right direction on an IO issue with an SSD?
[22:13] <greasyfat> i use a vpn im safe
[22:13] <hitsujiTMO> Alina-malina: sorry thought that was a ubottu trigger. rdesktop allows remote control of a windows machine thru rdp
[22:13] <joi> Cannot boot into ubuntu after upgrading from 12.04lts to 12.10 , my graphics card is a Intel HD graphics 4000
[22:14] <ColinHarrington> Horrible load average just doing an apt-get upgrade
[22:14] <Alina-malina> hitsujiTMO, i want a console access, is that work with that?
[22:14] <greasyfat> my host machine does not even know my IP.. i use a firewall
[22:14] <greasyfat> so this client cant leak it
[22:14] <ColinHarrington> or even on login, it starts to almost thrash
[22:14] <tables> what install cd do i need to do full disk encryption?
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> Alina-malina: theres a powershell ssh server
[22:15] <nemo> ugh. this is driving me nuts
[22:15] <Xiaolin> i dont bother with security, if someone wants to practice on me fine. ill try to dodge them, but im not going through the hassle of a firewall and all that crap.
[22:15] <Alina-malina> hitsujiTMO, there is no poweshell on windows machine that i am talking about
[22:15] <nemo> I've installed ubuntu-tweak and unity-tweak-tool
[22:15] <nemo> and neither seems to have a way to disable these stupid effects which make unity unusably laggy in a VM :(
[22:16] <nemo> I mean, normally I'd just install MATE and that would be that, but I'm specifically trying to support people who actually don't change the default WM :(
[22:16] <delt> hello
[22:16] <delt> how come my /etc/profile doesn't get run on new terminal logins?
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> Alina-malina: then rdp is the only thing that ms provide for remote management
[22:16] <joi> I upgraded from 12.04lts to 12.10 and now i cannot boot into ubuntu, i tried nomodeset , and boot-repair, any advice?
[22:16] <bekks> joi: So whqat happens when you try to boot?
[22:17] <Alina-malina> hitsujiTMO, i am in linux i need to connect that machine remotely(windows) should i install apt-get rtp?
[22:17] <Alina-malina> *rdp
[22:17] <nemo> Alina-malina: rdesktop
[22:17] <nemo> but yeah
[22:17] <nemo> Alina-malina: there's some gui frontends too.
[22:17] <Alina-malina> nemo, i dont want a GUI access
[22:17] <joi> bekks, black screen or loading screen that gets stuck, depending if i edit the grub to nomodeset, either way it doesnt work
[22:17] <Alina-malina> i want console access
[22:17] <Alina-malina> :)
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> Alina-malina: rdesktop ... mstsc also needs to be configured on the windows machine
[22:17] <nemo> Alina-malina: rdesktop -u alina -d mydomain -g 80%
[22:18] <nemo> would be my standard incantation
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Alina-malina: ms don't provide a console only remote admin
[22:18] <nemo> sometimes w/ an ssh portforward
[22:18] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: cygwin ♥
[22:18] <Alina-malina> hitsujiTMO, so no way toget that access?
[22:18] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: + ssh
[22:19] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: oh. since you're here, and you recommended  http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-tweak-and-unity-tweak-tool-powerful-tweaking-applications-ubuntu-1310
[22:19] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: I'm still not finding anything there to make opening and closing windows not animate :(
[22:19] <nemo> or context menu, which I guess is a window.
[22:19] <delt> how come my /etc/profile doesn't get run when i login to a text console or open a xterm?
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Alina-malina: console only ... no unless you want to install powershell or have limited access thru a third party service such as cygwin
[22:20] <Alina-malina> nemo, should i run this on windows machine? rdesktop -u alina -d mydomain -g 80% ??
[22:20] <nemo> Alina-malina: on your linux machine
[22:20] <joi> bekks, any ideas on what could be the problem?
[22:20] <nemo> Alina-malina: um. with the machine IP/name appended ofc
[22:20] <Alina-malina> nemo, ok thanks will try it
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> nemo: not sure tbh.
[22:21] <nemo> rdesktop -u mywindowsusername -d mywindowsdomainname -g 80% mywindowserver
[22:21] <microm> I have just managed to compile a newer version of the source for https://launchpad.net/~auanswers/+archive/canon64/
[22:21] <nemo> Alina-malina: and yeah, you do have to have microsoft terminal services enabled like hitsujiTMO said
[22:21] <nemo> hitsujiTMO: why oh why did they ditch unity 2d :(
[22:21] <microm> is it safe to just do a make install outside of the realm of the package manager?
[22:21] <microm> or will I break my system?
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> nemo: prob too much work keeping them both up to date
[22:21] <Alina-malina> nemo, you mean like tik near client of Microsoft networks in IP stuff?
[22:22] <SonikkuAmerica> microm: If you don't mind maintaining the install yourself, be our guest.
[22:23] <nemo> Alina-malina: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/turn-on-remote-desktop-in-windows-vista/
[22:23] <nemo> Alina-malina: not much of a windows user myself, so, I'll let them explain
[22:23] <Alina-malina> ok thank you very much! me either:)
[22:23] <tables> what ubuntu install cd do i need to do full disk encryption?
[22:24] <xatr0z> microm: if you want to install it system-wide, use the right directory, so /usr/local/bin/ instead of /bin/
[22:24] <xatr0z> microm: /usr/local/ is ignored by the package manager
[22:25] <microm> SonikkuAmerica: I don't mind building it and supplying a newer version of that package if I get mine working, I just don't know the packaging steps to get there.
[22:25] <microm> xatr0z: thanks that is useful, I'll use that with ./configure --prefix
[22:25] <joi> Can someone please assist me on this?
[22:25] <apb_> Trying to install an epson xp-300 printer... printer configuration detects it... but then when trying to actually proceed forward there is no driver listed and it recommends the "9-pin".  Any thoughts on this?
[22:25] <apb_> ubuntu 12.04.3
[22:26] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | joi: What's "this"?
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> tables: any. they provide full disk encryption with luks
[22:26] <opticrom>  /join #linuxdistrocommunity
[22:28] <joi> SonikkuAmerica, i upgraded from 12.04lts to 12.10, now everytime i try and boot from window 8, it gives me a black screen, or a loading screen that eventually freezes, i tried boot-repair and nomodeset, the grahpics card is intel hd 4000, and i asked about 5 diffrent times, im sorry if i am being rude or irritating in anyway
[22:28] <fhf> Hi all how to deal with @ symbol at ftp username at the commandline? eg: login@myhost.com:mypassword@server2.myhost.com
[22:28] <Xiaolin> joi is having problems getting the machine to boot up, it gets stuck at a black screen, or the loading screen.
[22:29] <SonikkuAmerica> joi: I'm assuming you have a UEFI machine.
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> fhf: login:password@host
[22:29] <joi> SonikkuAmerica, yes, i do
[22:29] <SonikkuAmerica> joi: And Ubuntu works just fine?
[22:29] <joi> SonikkuAmerica, WAS working just fine, untill i decided to upgrade
[22:30] <funky1> can someone tell me if I can safely remove gvfs if I'm not using a graphical desktop? i have several processes "gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor" that have high cpu usage and i only use cli, would it be save?
[22:30] <fhf> hitsujiTMO: I know but my stupid host gave me username that contain "@" in the username
[22:30] <Xiaolin> and this is why its important to do a complete backup before upgrading
[22:30] <xatr0z> apb_: wouldnt know really, but found instructions for manual installation here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+question/212355
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> fhf: ahh sorry
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> joi: So... The thing powers on, GRUB 2's boot menu shows up, and then what?
[22:31] <fhf> hitsujiTMO: do you know how to work around this?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> fhf try replacing @ with +
[22:31] <jhutchins> fhf: Try quotes and escapes.
[22:31] <jhutchins> \@
[22:32] <fhf> jhutchins: ok will try
[22:32] <joi> SonikkuAmerica, it gives me options to choose between, Windows 8 or Ubuntu, before i would just choose ubuntu and it would boot up just fine, now if i press ubuntu it will just be stuck in a black screen, IF i do edit it into nomodeset and boot as the modified grub, then that is when it goes past the black screen, but gets stuck in the loading screen
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> joi: Try this: Boot the machine to GRUB 2, select "Ubuntu", press E, get rid of the "quiet splash" on the "linux" line, and press F10.
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> fhf: also try url esacaping it: user%40host.com:password@server.host.com
[22:33] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: Good thought.
[22:34] <fhf> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[22:34] <joi> SonikkuAmerica, tried that already, all it does is go back into the screen and tell me to log in as my user name and password, no matter what input it always says password incorrect, when i know it is the right password
[22:34] <michael__> How can I make it so that a specific program and specific fstab entry do not require sudo access?
[22:34] <jhutchins> fhf: I think the ftp client will also accept different formats for username vs. server.  The server should also prompt you for username if you don't supply one.
[22:35] <bekks> michael__: Add "user" to the fstab and add the program to the sudoers, with an according entry.
[22:35] <SonikkuAmerica> joi: Huh? GRUB doesn't do that... that's Ubuntu
[22:36] <xatr0z> funky1: gvfs is an virtual filesystem, besides graphical applications its used to automount usb drives. so if you dont use that you could remove it i think.
[22:36] <joi> SonikkuAmerica, i can try it again but when it asks me for my user name it, it tells me to print it out when it is already there
[22:36] <microm> now that I have recompiled the canon 64-bit printer driver and installed to /usr/local, how do I tell cups to look in there? Or is it easier to create a package and install it in the right location so the system sees it?
[22:37] <joi> SonikkuAmerica, So my username is Joi, it would tell me "Joi user: and password:"
[22:37] <michael__> If I add the program to the soduers file, wouldn't I still have to type sudo in front of it?
[22:37] <fhf> jhutchins: heh curlftpfs is not that smart but %40 worked thanks
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: yes
[22:37] <greasyfat> is kubuntu popular and maintained
[22:38] <greasyfat> cuz no1 on that channel
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> greasyfat: yes
[22:38] <michael__> I mean, how can I make it so normal users without sudo access can run the program?
[22:38] <greasyfat> is dolphin a good file explorer or is there btter
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: add a sudoers entry for that user. so they only have sudo access for that app
[22:38] <bekks> michael__: which program in particular.
[22:39] <michael__> bekks: kpartx
[22:39] <funky1> xatr0z: that much i gathered as well on the net, but not much more then that, will it not effect samba mounts or other type of mounts on my system (or usb mounts that i have done via cli?)
[22:39] <bekks> michael__: Erm - no user should run that. Never.
[22:39] <xatr0z> michael__: if you have mounted the filesystem with suid you could change the group of the program to the group your users have
[22:39] <bekks> michael__: Its really not for users, but for root access.
[22:39] <michael__> hitsujiTMO: I want to use the program in a script file, and it can't have the "sudo" on the front
[22:39] <xatr0z> after that the program will run as its own user, but can be started by anyone with the right group
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: have then instad of the app, add the path to the script in the sudoers file
[22:42] <michael__> If anyone knows a way to make disk images without root, that would be appreciated
[22:42] <bekks> michael__: There is no way, since taking disk images requires root access since it directly access the hardware.
[22:43] <michael__> bekks: I'm not copying a disk
[22:43] <bekks> michael__: No chance to do that as user, unless using _really_ ugly hacks as custom udev rules.
[22:43] <bekks> michael__: If you want to take a disk image, you need direct access to the hardware.
[22:43] <michael__> The script creates a new disk image from files in a folder
[22:44] <jhutchins> michael__: Are you in a multi-user environment?
[22:44] <bekks> michael__: So you are generating an iso?
[22:44] <Xiaolin> is there an irc command i can use to find what channels a user is in?
[22:44] <jhutchins> !alis
[22:44] <michael__> bekks: It's preferable that fat32 is used, but an iso would work
[22:45] <michael__> jhutchins: No, but the script will need to eventually be run by other users
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> Xiaolin: /whois username          if that user is not invisible
[22:45] <jhutchins> michael__: If you were to tell us more about your environment and what you're actually trying to do we might be able to suggest a more functional solution.
[22:45] <tables> where can i find an ubuntu installation cd that allows full disk encryption?
[22:45] <jhutchins> michael__: Generally users are not intended to have this ability, and for good reason.
[22:45] <Xiaolin> hitsujiTMO: thanks, alis was giving me a hard time lol
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> tables: ubuntu.com
[22:45] <tables> where can i find an ubuntu installation cd that does full disk encryption?
[22:46] <tables> that livecd doesn't work
[22:46] <tables> i'm using 12.04
[22:46] <tables> does 13.10 or 13.04 do full disk encryption?
[22:46] <p0wder> @tables it should give you the option during installation
[22:46] <michael__> The folder first creates an image of a set size, partitions it and formats as fat32, and copies all files under a specific path onto the image
[22:46] <Xiaolin> tables: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> table try the alernative cd in http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> tables^
[22:48] <jhutchins> tables: What forms of linux have you used before?
[22:48] <p0wder> @tables are you installing ubuntu fresh or would you like to encrypt an already installed OS
[22:49] <Xiaolin> the link i provided explains everything he needs
[22:49] <p0wder> nice link Xiaolin
[22:49] <jhutchins> p0wder: The @ sign is not functional in irc and probably prevents his nic from highlighting.
[22:50] <p0wder> oh thanks jhut.  is there a command for highlighting a name?
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> tables: alternative cd is easier for luks on 12.04. a ease of install is provided in the desktop cd for later versions
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> p0wder: most irc clients will highlight your name in any text
[22:52] <p0wder> I'm using XChat and it doesnt highlight my name :(
[22:53] <bekks> p0wder: you can configre that in xchat.
[22:53] <delt> Hello
[22:53] <p0wder> I take that back... it makes all the text red
[22:53] <xatr0z> funky1: i dont believe samba, sshfs etc need gvfs, they only need fuse. as long as you dont use any gnome and your package manager doesnt warn there are dependencies, you could try it.
[22:53] <delt> my xubuntu machine is stuck on the login screen. how can i see some form of diagnostic?
[22:54] <delt> X11 log file isn't helping much :/
[22:54] <p0wder> delt: its froze?
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> p0wder: sorry, i should say it highlights the full message. all highlighting is done by the client. irc protocol is a plain text protocol with no markup
[22:55] <delt> p0wder: no, just bounces right back at the login screen when i login
[22:55] <delt> p0wder: i might have f'd something up in /etc/ that it didn't like :/
[22:55] <jhutchins> samba should be independent of fuse, cifs and nfs are not userspace.
[22:55] <jhutchins> Is sshfs active again?
[22:55] <delt> p0wder: how can i see the output from start-xfce and such?
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> delt: thats an issue with the account then. what did you last change?
[22:55] <jhutchins> delt: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:56] <delt> jhutchins: yeah the X server log isn't being much help :/
[22:56] <jhutchins> delt: /var/log/auth.log
[22:56] <delt> hitsujiTMO: calling /etc/profile from .bashrc
[22:57] <jhutchins> delt: Check the permissions of files (including hidden .dotfiles) in your home.
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> delt: ~/.session-errors
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> delt: whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[22:57] <delt> hitsujiTMO: because it didn't get called for some reason :/
[22:58] <punz> hi can I have some assistance please. The new kernel update yesterday appears to have broken my system.
[22:58] <bekks> punz: What happened?
[22:58] <punz> I was unable to boot into unity today.
[22:58] <punz> it appeared as a blank screen.
[22:59] <punz> so I've had to press shift on boot up
[22:59] <punz> and select the earlier version.
[22:59] <punz> Linux paulspc 3.11.0-14-generic
[22:59] <punz> is what I've reverted to.
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> delt: /etc/profile always gets called. did you make changes to it?
[23:00] <punz> so I'm not sure whether it's got anything to do with my nvidia drivers and the new kernel.
[23:00] <delt> no
[23:00] <lickalott> Xiaolin, so the applications shortcuts work like a champ.  The location shortcuts aren't worth poo, so I just made a softlink and put it in my home folder.  Now as soon as I click the folder icon on the launcher I have direct access to my stuff.  Not what I wanted but it'll do until i have more time to play
[23:01] <delt> hitsujiTMO: i added stuff in /etc/profile.d and that didn't get called
[23:01] <Xiaolin> lickalott: make a new app icon, duplicate the nautilus one. from there you can alter the command to open straight to the location you want.
[23:02] <delt> hitsujiTMO: also no such file ~/.session-errors
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> delt: most likely it was being called but crapped out do to an error. can you pastebin your script
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> s/do/due
[23:02] <lickalott> neg.  tried that.  no change.  I even emptied the file trying to see if only one entry would allow the path to work.  nada.  I screwed up the folder on the launcher.
[23:03] <delt> the X11 server restarts when i login.
[23:04] <microm> how do I fix error: cannot find input file: `po/Makefile.in.in'
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> delt: are you sure xserver is reloading and not just you getting kickedout of your session?
[23:05] <Xiaolin> lickalott: you didnt back it up? lol man i love when i make that mistake. throw me the location of the .desktop files ur messin with.
[23:06] <delt> hitsujiTMO: yeah, cause i see the nvidia startup
[23:06] <delt> logo
[23:06] <johntramp> hi can anyone please explain why an 8gb sd card is only showing 4gb in fdisk? http://ix.io/9Ew
[23:07] <lickalott> oh yeah....  I copied the original from /usr/share/applications and put it in .local/share/applications and edited in there.  The odd part was that it did make a link called "main" within that applications directory so it kinda sorta worked
[23:07] <delt> btw it's nothing to do with the .bashrc / profile thing, i reverted that too, still restarts my X server
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> delt: can you pastebin /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[23:08] <Random832> johntramp: what kind of sd card reader are you using? have you used it for >4GB cards before?
[23:08] <cuddylier> Has anyone any experience with installing a teamspeak 3 server on ubuntu? http://pastie.org/8598638
[23:08] <cuddylier> There is the ports listening
[23:09] <cuddylier> I can't seem to connect to it at all eventhough my dedicated server has all ports open.. very weird
[23:09] <Random832> johntramp: also are you sure the card is really 8GB? have you tried it in another system?
[23:09] <johntramp> Random832: it is a laptop which I have used 32gb cards in before, this is a micro sd card with an sd adapter
[23:10] <Random832> is your sd adapter designed for SDHC?
[23:10] <delt> hitsujiTMO: http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/lightdm.log.txt
[23:10] <johntramp> Random832: how can i tell?
[23:10] <Random832> does it say SDHC on it?
[23:10] <luisfelipecd> oi
[23:10] <delt> looking at it now....
[23:10] <Beldar> johntramp, rooting your terminal is a bad habit in ubuntu this is not debian, what does sudo fdisk -l show
[23:11] <Random832> note i could be wrong about this
[23:11] <Random832> you say you've used >4GB cards on this laptop before?
[23:11] <Random832> anyway to be sure, if you can, try a different sd adapter or a different device
[23:12] <johntramp> Beldar: setting a root password is one of the first things I ever do, why is that bad?
[23:12] <Random832> johntramp: also cat /proc/partitions
[23:12] <Beldar> !root | johntramp
[23:12] <Random832> oh wait damn your dmesg said it was 8GB, didn't see that
[23:12] <johntramp> Random832:  I can't see SDHC written anywhere, I have used 32 gb micro sd in this though
[23:12] <Random832> uh... try using gparted instead of fdisk
[23:12] <Random832> fdisk kind of sucks iirc
[23:13] <Beldar> johntramp, Setting a root password, rather then just using the admin sudo password is not needed.
[23:13] <Beldar> Random832, Please use nicks.
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> delt: can you look again for ~/.xsession-errors              startxfce4 seems to be where the problem starts
[23:14] <Random832> johntramp: what happens if you use gparted
[23:14] <Beldar> johntramp, Many other linux OS's have a root password, ubuntu is designed differently is all.
[23:14] <johntramp> Random832: /proc/partitions has      8       16    7745536 sdb
[23:15] <delt> hitsujiTMO: says there's a syntax error in one of my .sh files in /etc/profile.d
[23:15] <delt> but when i correct that error, it just says the same error further
[23:16] <delt> and then into the next file and so on
[23:16] <johntramp> Random832: ....it doesn't even show in parted -l
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> delt: can you remove the files and try again
[23:16] <greasyfat> ubuntu disables root accont right?
[23:16] <delt> hitsujiTMO: says syntax error: ( expected
[23:16] <Random832> ...do you have data on the sd card? does /proc/partitions show /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2?
[23:16] <bekks> greasyfat: Yes.
[23:16] <Random832> johntramp: ...do you have data on the sd card? does /proc/partitions show /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2?
[23:17] <delt> hitsujiTMO: now it says the same error in /usr/local/bin/lightdm-session
[23:17] <Beldar> greasyfat, The bot post tells you the info you need
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> delt: move the files to your ~
[23:17] <johntramp> Random832: yes it does but I am trying to dd an iso to it so don't care about the partitions
[23:17] <greasyfat> k
[23:17] <Random832> johntramp: if you don't care about the partitions why are you using fdisk?
[23:17] <delt> hitsujiTMO: i know there's no error in these files, because they worked fine on this machine, and they worked fine before i rebooted the xubuntu machine
[23:18] <Random832> anyway i think fdisk reads the size out of the partition table and the partition table has bad geometry
[23:18] <johntramp> Random832: because it is failing at 4gb and it should be an 8gb disk
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> delt: the error could be somewhere else considering that they're sourced
[23:18] <delt> yeah that's what i thought
[23:18] <Random832> where did you buy this sd card?
[23:18] <johntramp> a reputable local electronics store
[23:19] <Random832> i've heard of fraudulent usb drives
[23:19] <Random832> where was it manufactured?
[23:19] <johntramp> it should be legitimate
[23:19] <johntramp> china
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> johntramp: where did they buy the sd cards from? dodgy chinaman?
[23:19] <johntramp> like everythig eelse
[23:19] <Random832> is your dd command to go to /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb2?
[23:19] <johntramp> of=/dev/sdb
[23:19] <Random832> dd shouldn't care about the partitions - and it's possible that fdisk actually got confused
[23:20] <Random832> what happens if you dd _from_ the /dev/sdb _to_ a file?
[23:20] <johntramp> good point, ill try that
[23:20] <Random832> also what error is dd failing with, and do you get anything in dmesg at the time it fails?
[23:20] <delt> hitsujiTMO: bingo, removing the files from /etc/profile.d/ did the trick
[23:20] <johntramp> dd: writing ‘/dev/sdb’: No space left on device
[23:20] <johntramp> 4023386112 bytes (4.0 GB) copied, 812.861 s, 4.9 MB/s
[23:21] <johntramp> is is a 7gb image
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> delt: test them thoughly before adding them back
[23:21] <q0>  /j #freebsd
[23:21] <xatr0z> traitor.
[23:21] <Random832> are all of the contacts on the sd card adapter clean?
[23:22] <johntramp> yes, and it id brand new
[23:22] <johntramp> it is **
[23:22] <Xiaolin> do other devices read the entire 8gigs?
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> johntramp: test the sd card in another machine. could be that the card reader simply can access the full sd card. if its still not working its from a dodgy chinaman
[23:22] <delt> hitsujiTMO: will do
[23:22] <johntramp> I think I will try it in another machine, and if no luck then look for a different card
[23:23] <johntramp> :)
[23:23] <delt> hitsujiTMO: btw, how can i allow remote access to my X11 server? xhost isn't working :/
[23:23] <Xiaolin> can a phone read it? or maybe a camera?
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> delt: i've never done remote X access to be honest. ssh covers everything i need
[23:24] <Viking667> 'llo all.
[23:24] <johntramp> Random832: cheers for your help,   i think i may take it back to the store and tell them to give me another one
[23:25] <delt> how can i allow remote access to my X11 server? xhost isn't working :/
[23:25] <qwert> hi
[23:26] <bekks> delt: Is there an X server running at all?
[23:26] <delt> bekks: yeah, now that i fixed it :D
[23:26] <bekks> delt: And clarify "xhost is not working".
[23:27] <delt> running "xhost +" says connection allowed from any host, but it doesn't allow it
[23:27] <bekks> How do you try to connect?
[23:27] <delt> running a X app from another machine
[23:27] <bekks> delt: How?
[23:27] <delt> through telnet
[23:28] <bekks> telnet doesnt support X at all.
[23:28] <gordonjcp> delt: don't use telnet
[23:28] <bekks> Forget that, use ssh -X
[23:28] <bekks> Telnet deserves to be extincted.
[23:28] <delt> i'm so stuck in my old ways :D
[23:28] <bekks> Then you should know that telnet doesnt support what you are trying to do.
[23:29] <delt> yeah it does if the DISPLAY environment is set, and the target (server) machine accepts them
[23:29] <delt> been using that for years
[23:29] <bekks> delt: Then you hzave to configure the X server to listen on an IP.
[23:29] <bekks> And thats not the default in Ubuntu.
[23:29] <delt> that's quite clear =)
[23:30] <delt> bekks: been using slackware since the mid 90's
[23:30] <delt> :)
[23:30] <MrJerome> Is it possible to control Kazam screen recorder programmatically like with python?
[23:30] <bekks> delt: That doesnt mean much in here :)
[23:30] <Viking667> hullo everyone. I bought a new-ish Dolby headset yesterday (Plantronics Gamecom 780), and now I'm trying to figure out how to get "Line-in" from my motherboard sound to get pushed to the headset instead of the speakers. Does anyone know where I should look?
[23:31] <delt> bekks: this is a private network, there's no cause for being paranoid with my setup
[23:32] <Random832> Viking667: the mixer app should have a "jack sense" setting
[23:32] <fernando> @viking have you tried alsamixer?
[23:32] <Viking667> haha. Yes.
[23:32] <Viking667> that doesn't redirect sound streams.
[23:32] <fernando> oops, sorry
[23:33] <delt> to disable it, use --jackoff commandline (hee hee)
[23:33] <Random832> Viking667: some sound cards have a "jack sense" setting that will make the speakers mute when headphones are plugged in, you need to enable it, it's a checkbox in alsamixer
[23:33] <urgency> Is anyone having a problem with the system locking up after unlocking the screen/changing the lock settings?
[23:33] <Viking667> er.... the issue's more complicated than that, Random832
[23:34] <Random832> i'm not sure how
[23:34] <Random832> did you plug it in right?
[23:34] <Viking667> motherboard has a 7.1 output, with several analog outputs.
[23:34] <Viking667> the headset is USB, and shows up separately.
[23:34] <Random832> oh
[23:34] <Random832> uh, you using pulseaudio?
[23:34] <Viking667> motherboard's line-in happily goes to either speakers or to headphones, with no issues.
[23:34] <Viking667> What I want is for it to come out of the USB headset.
[23:35] <Random832> what sound system are you using? pulse?
[23:35] <Viking667> Yah.I'm afraid so.
[23:35] <Viking667> after all, it's Ubuntu I'm dealing with. 13.10 here.
[23:36] <Random832> so what happens when you go into sound settings
[23:36] <Random832> there's a list of playback devices
[23:37] <Random832> sorry i'm on lubuntu so i don't remember the exact screen
[23:37] <Krafty> Hi
[23:37] <Viking667> Random832: hm. pavucontrol, right?
[23:37] <Random832> no idea
[23:38] <Viking667> well. pavucontrol certainly shows me inputs and outputs, but no way to direct input to specific outputs.
[23:39] <eksip> what difference between ubuntu and Lubuntu?
[23:39] <Viking667> uses lxde
[23:39] <Beldar> eksip, different desktops, look on the web it is shown definitively there
[23:40] <vithic> eksip, that would be the desktop environment. Did you check some screenshots? :)
[23:40] <eksip> no one :) juist asked
[23:41] <auberginer> 73s7
[23:41] <__no_collisions_> \quit
[23:41] <auberginer> guuuuut
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> eksip: also different sets of applications. lubuntu comes with lighter equivalents to ubuntu apps. i.e. abi-word instead of openoffice
[23:43] <urgency> my system keeps freezing, any advice? this just started happening today after installing updates...
[23:44] <Xiaolin> eksip: Ubuntu Kubuntu Lubuntu *Ubuntu comes in a all shapes and sizes, most notable difference being the desktop managers (lxde, gnome, unity, xfce, kde) so if you really wanna know the difference just research the different desktop managers.
[23:44] <eksip> urgency,  htop  to see what freezing your pc
[23:45] <eksip> and then pkill for ever
[23:45] <urgency> eksip: it's not a runaway process.
[23:45] <urgency> eksip: the whole system locks up, i can access other tty and run top, but nothing seems amiss.
[23:45] <funky1> xatr0z: i don't use gnome, though rarely i log into unity, which maybe makes use of gvfs?
[23:45] <eksip> Xiaolin thanx, i have the sluckbox couple years ago so i get it
[23:46] <urgency> eksip: it seems to happen most often after unlocking the screen. if the system is idle for 10 mins, i enter password to unlock and it freezes 30 seconds later.
[23:46] <Viserion> hi
[23:46] <_1_Zanoni> hi
[23:47] <TuN> Can any one help me, I try to run psybnc with oidentd support, and the process automatically gets killed
[23:48] <TuN> when i compile it without oidentd support, it works fine
[23:48] <TuN> I am not an expert in ubuntu
[23:48] <TuN> can any one help in that matter
[23:51] <Atlantic777> any fglrx and xorg gurus around? I'm having troubless with dual head setup with proprietary drivers and discrete graphics card.
[23:51] <Beldar> !details | Atlantic777
[23:51] <Viking667> first question, does the driver support your card?
[23:51] <Atlantic777> With intel graphics it worked ok, except I couldn't use built in monitor and 2 more displays.
[23:51] <Atlantic777> Yes it supports and it works well if I clone displays.
[23:52] <Atlantic777> The problem is when I want to have displays side by side, btw I use awesome wm.
[23:52] <Viking667> I use xrandr for all of that...
[23:52] <Viking667> so, fire up a terminal, check what outputs xrandr shows you.
[23:52] <Atlantic777> I did and awesome wm gets confused, it shows some content on both displays.
[23:52] <Viking667> yeah, we'll get to that.
[23:52] <TuN> if a process automatically gets killed
[23:52] <Atlantic777> Xrandr output is ok, ok resoulutions and offsets.
[23:53] <TuN> how can I check what happened
[23:53] <TuN> or why it got killed
[23:53] <Viking667> that's not the question I asked.
[23:53] <Viking667> Atlantic777: it shows three separate outputs, right?
[23:53] <Atlantic777> Do you want to see xrandr output?
[23:53] <Atlantic777> https://paste.lugons.org/show/dxDIvNXPhSKFByzIw2Dp/
[23:53] <Viking667> that would be nice, thank you.
[23:54] <Atlantic777> And when I try to make screenshot with "import", it looks fine. :)
[23:54] <Atlantic777> Btw, awesome wm config is ok, because it worked well with intell driver.
[23:54] <Viking667> sigh. just wait.
[23:54] <Atlantic777> ok
[23:55] <Viking667> xrandr --output HDMI1 --right-of VGA1
[23:55] <Viking667> see what that does.
[23:55] <thinmint> TuN check out some of the files in /var/log/ one might be able to help
[23:55] <Atlantic777> Viking667: xrandr is after I did that.
[23:55] <TuN> thinmint
[23:55] <TuN> any particular file?
[23:55] <Atlantic777> and result is messed up
[23:55] <Viking667> so. is LVDS1 the primary screen?
[23:55] <Atlantic777> LVDS is turned off at the moment
[23:56] <Viking667> hm.
[23:56] <thinmint> TuN could be called messages
[23:56] <Atlantic777> And if I try to turn it on, I get the same error as with intel driver, something about crtc.
[23:56] <Viking667> so, do you have mirrored output on the VGA screen and the HDMI screen?
[23:56] <seme> hey guys.... what package is the smbfs program part of?  i can't find it
[23:56] <thinmint> not 100% on what it would be called
[23:56] <Viking667> seme: look at samba
[23:57] <Atlantic777> Viking667: it's not actually mirrored, it messed up. I can try to take a picture of it with my camera because screenshot is representing actual situation.
[23:58] <TuN> thinmint
[23:58] <TuN> messages file is there
[23:58] <TuN> should i just pico it?
[23:59] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | TuN
[23:59] <thinmint> TuN that should work fine or use grep to look for the program
[23:59] <TuN> oh ok, sorry. will keep that in mind ubottu.
[23:59] <xatr0z> funky1: wow then i misunderstood, then you shouldnt remove it