[07:34] <pinko> hello to all I wanted to see the new 14:04 live but ask me the parameters login and password you know them?
[07:36] <Unit193> Type  ubuntustudio  for the username, click the password field, then select the correct language and session from the top right options and hit 'login'  (If not done in the right order, things won't be right.)
[07:38] <pinko> ok thanks
[08:36] <shaun> Tried to install nexiuz game and got an error message
[08:37] <shaun> shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall nexuiz
[08:37] <shaun> [sudo] password for shaun:
[08:37] <shaun> Reading package lists... Done
[08:37] <shaun> Building dependency tree
[08:37] <shaun> Reading state information... Done
[08:37] <shaun> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:37] <shaun> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[08:37] <shaun> Need to get 0 B/43.5 kB of archives.
[08:37] <shaun> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
[08:37] <shaun> (Reading database ... 254817 files and directories currently installed.)
[08:37] <shaun> Preparing to replace nexuiz 2.5.2+dp-2 (using .../nexuiz_2.5.2+dp-2_all.deb) ...
[08:37] <shaun> Unpacking replacement nexuiz ...
[08:37] <shaun> Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
[08:37] <shaun> Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
[08:37] <shaun> Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
[08:37] <shaun> Processing triggers for mime-support ...
[08:37] <shaun> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[08:37] <shaun> Setting up initramfs-tools (0.103ubuntu1.1) ...
[08:37] <shaun> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[08:37] <shaun> Setting up nexuiz (2.5.2+dp-2) ...
[08:37] <shaun> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[08:37] <shaun> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-lowlatency
[08:37] <shaun> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[08:37] <shaun> E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1
[08:37] <shaun> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-lowlatency with 1.
[08:37] <shaun> dpkg: error processing initramfs-tools (--configure):
[08:37] <shaun>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:37] <shaun> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:37] <shaun>  initramfs-tools
[08:38] <shaun> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:38] <shaun> shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:~$
[08:38] <shaun> There is plenty of space on my partitions
[08:38] <shaun> Why the line:  Gzip:  stdout: No space left on device?
[08:42] <shaun> If I fall asleep wating for anyone who can help please email to knoxtreeninja@yahoo.com  Thank you.
[08:43] <shaun> Running Ubuntu Studio 13.10
[08:44] <xnox> shaun: no space left in /boot/ ? can you print the output of " df -h " ?
[09:22] <shaun> shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall nexuiz
[09:22] <shaun> [sudo] password for shaun:
[09:22] <shaun> Reading package lists... Done
[09:22] <shaun> Building dependency tree
[09:22] <shaun> Reading state information... Done
[09:22] <shaun> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:22] <shaun> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[09:22] <shaun> Need to get 0 B/43.5 kB of archives.
[09:22] <shaun> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
[09:22] <shaun> (Reading database ... 254817 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:22] <shaun> Preparing to replace nexuiz 2.5.2+dp-2 (using .../nexuiz_2.5.2+dp-2_all.deb) ...
[09:22] <shaun> Unpacking replacement nexuiz ...
[09:22] <shaun> Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
[09:22] <shaun> Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
[09:22] <shaun> Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
[09:22] <shaun> Processing triggers for mime-support ...
[09:22] <shaun> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[09:22] <shaun> Setting up initramfs-tools (0.103ubuntu1.1) ...
[09:22] <shaun> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[09:22] <shaun> Setting up nexuiz (2.5.2+dp-2) ...
[09:22] <shaun> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[09:22] <shaun> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-lowlatency
[09:22] <shaun> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[09:22] <shaun> E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1
[09:23] <shaun> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-lowlatency with 1.
[09:23] <shaun> dpkg: error processing initramfs-tools (--configure):
[09:23] <shaun>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:23] <shaun> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:23] <shaun>  initramfs-tools
[09:23] <shaun> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:23] <shaun> shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:~$
[09:23] <shaun> xnox>  shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:~$ df -h
[09:23] <shaun> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[09:23] <shaun> /dev/sda5             165G  8.2G  149G   6% /
[09:23] <shaun> none                  4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[09:23] <shaun> udev                  1.3G  4.0K  1.3G   1% /dev
[09:23] <shaun> tmpfs                 262M  1.0M  261M   1% /run
[09:23] <shaun> none                  5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[09:23] <shaun> none                  1.3G  144K  1.3G   1% /run/shm
[09:23] <shaun> none                  100M   24K  100M   1% /run/user
[09:23] <shaun> /dev/sda1              92M   78M  9.2M  90% /boot
[09:23] <shaun> /home/shaun/.Private  165G  8.2G  149G   6% /home/shaun
[09:23] <shaun> shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:~$ ^C
[09:23] <shaun> shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:~$
[09:24] <xnox> shaun: boot has 9MB available and typical kernels are multiples the size of that. Perform apt-get autoremove, or manually remove old kernels.
[09:24] <xnox> shaun: "manually" as in with apt-get remove.
[09:25] <xnox> shaun: so indeed, it was that it sais "No space left on device", the /dev/sda1 - /boot that is.
[09:25] <shaun> xnox>  Why does a game need to do anything with /boot?
[09:27] <shaun> xnox>  Maybe a better question is my /boot partition is total 92MB  What should a /boot partition size be?
[09:28] <xnox> shaun: you clearly run out of /boot space last time you tried to install/update a kernel. It failed to configure, thus the update-initramfs trigger is firing/trying to configure on each apt run.
[09:29] <xnox> shaun: your boot partition size is fine. you simply have too many kernels installed. If you don't remove them by calling "apt-get autoremove" manually, or via gui, or unattended upgrades or elsehow and don't remove kernels yourself, you will constantly see that error....
[09:29] <shaun> xnox>  Thanks I would have never known that!
[09:30] <xnox> shaun: do execute apt-get autoremove, do check that "dist-upgrade" completes and new kernel is installed and do reboot into the new kernel, as it probably has stable & security updates.
[09:30] <shaun> xnox>  Thank you.  Ok bye.
[09:34] <shaun> xnox> shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:/$ sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:34] <shaun> [sudo] password for shaun:
[09:34] <shaun> Reading package lists... Done
[09:35] <shaun> Building dependency tree
[09:35] <shaun> Reading state information... Done
[09:35] <shaun> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:35] <shaun> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[09:35] <shaun> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
[09:35] <shaun> Setting up initramfs-tools (0.103ubuntu1.1) ...
[09:35] <shaun> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[09:35] <shaun> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[09:35] <shaun> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-lowlatency
[09:35] <shaun> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[09:35] <shaun> E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1
[09:35] <xnox> shaun: can you please stop posting everything here?
[09:35] <shaun> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-lowlatency with 1.
[09:35] <shaun> dpkg: error processing initramfs-tools (--configure):
[09:35] <shaun>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:35] <shaun> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:35] <shaun>  initramfs-tools
[09:35] <xnox> shaun: one typically uses "paste.ubuntu.com" to paste loads of output.
[09:35] <shaun> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:35] <shaun> shaun@BTC-Inspiron-M5040:/$
[09:37] <shaun> I'm sorry for flooding channel.  I used irc frequently many years ago.  I have to re-learn some things.
[20:31] <studio-user485> hello...
[20:32] <cadux> hi...
[20:33] <holstein> o/
[20:33] <cadux> \o/...
[20:35] <cadux> I am conducting an experiment, installing ubuntustudio in an Internet cafe...
[20:38] <holstein> yeah?
[20:38] <holstein> it shouldnt matter where you install it
[20:38] <holstein> it'll matter if you select "install upgraded during the installation" and the internet is slow, bad, or fails
[20:40] <cadux> This Internet cafe has an average of nearly 10,000 users per month, ie, the number of users ubuntustudio will rise considerably.
[20:41] <holstein> oh, you mean for the cafe itself
[20:41] <holstein> i would think anything about studio would necessarily benefit casual desktop users
[20:41] <holstein> i would go for xubuntu
[20:43] <cadux> I am installing to update, but the internet is good, speed of 1mb / s...
[20:44] <holstein> i see not advantage to installing that way, so i never use it
[20:45] <holstein> best case scenario, nothing happens and the system boots
[20:45] <cadux> I had installed xubuntu, but the experience was much better with users with ubuntustudio.
[20:45] <holstein> otherwise, i just do an install, which i know will work, then i upgrade
[20:45] <holstein> cadux: "better" is a matter of opinion
[20:45] <holstein> cadux: xubuntu is more designed and intended for the target audience
[20:46] <holstein> cadux: i literally cant imagine what you could benefit from ubuntustduio there
[20:46] <holstein> cadux: you can always use the look and feel without installing the packages
[20:46] <holstein> cadux: if a desktop user were to launch *any* of the audio specific packages, and JACK tries to start, then audio can and usually will break
[20:47] <holstein> cadux: there is no benifit to offereing anyone at a casual internet cafe access to JACK
[20:47] <holstein> there is something to be said for keeping things simple, and clean
[20:48] <holstein> when i have setup scenario's like that, i tend to only allow access to a limited account with a web browser
[20:49] <cadux> I understand this concern, however users were prevented from installing packages, only the administrator lan house will do that.
[20:51] <holstein> cadux: i never referenced installing JACK
[20:51] <holstein> cadux: ubuntustudio ships with it
[20:52] <holstein> cadux: you have but to click on an applciation in the menu, such as ardour, as a normal user.. a default application that ships with, and is included with ubuntustuduio
[20:52] <holstein> then, the audio can, and usually does break for normal users
[20:52] <holstein> since, they are not intending to, or trying to use JACK
[20:53] <holstein> they just click and open ardour, which, open jack, as designed, and breaks the audio for the system
[20:53] <holstein> in xubuntu, this would not be happening
[20:53] <holstein> and if you prefer the way ubuntustuduio looks and feels, you can add that look and feel to xubuntu
[20:54] <holstein> anyways, you can do either one either way
[20:54] <holstein> but, i feel that you will have to basically strip ubuntustudio down to xubuntu with the studio theme
[20:55] <holstein> i would consider it easier, and more appropriate to go the other way
[20:55] <holstein> also, there is a bigger help community
[20:55] <holstein> and, a more appropriate help community