[00:54] <shadeslayer> cyphermox: I'm thinking of bringing it up on Ubuntu Devel
[00:54] <shadeslayer> maybe sometime next week
[00:55] <shadeslayer> or is that too premature?
[00:55] <shadeslayer> cyphermox: the sucky thing is that bluez5 doesn't seem to be co installable ( or atleast that's what google told me )
[01:37] <cyphermox> shadeslayer: well, you could bring it up. but we've discussed this informally for a while in the desktop team at least
[01:37] <cyphermox> it's quite unsafe for a LTS to do this kind of change
[01:37] <cyphermox> and indeed, no coninstallable
[01:37] <shadeslayer> okay
[01:37] <cyphermox> AFAIK pulseaudio is the biggest issue too, it has bluez 5 support in git but not as a release
[01:38] <cyphermox> and indeed, it wouldn't be installable as some pieces were unsplit from the bluez release and integrated
[01:38] <cyphermox> is there a particular feature you need or are you just concerned about the support?
[01:39] <cyphermox> I mean, you mentioned bluedevil earlier, maybe this needs a new version because some other piece needs that bluedevil version?
[01:41] <shadeslayer> nope, just concerned about upstream support
[01:42]  * shadeslayer checks build deps
[01:43] <shadeslayer> yep, just bluedevil wants it, and that's fine
[02:24] <cyphermox> ok
[02:24] <cyphermox> I'm not too worried about upstream support. the people who maintain it will still have to do so for a while, and I can backport patches as necessary, I guess
[02:25] <cyphermox> in general things seem to be rather stable, what can be more of an issue is some obscure BT 4.0 feature
[02:25] <cyphermox> stuff like Bluetooth Low Energy which is supported, though not exactly easy to deal with
[02:26] <cyphermox> but it does work, I bought a device to test it, I was able to retrieve temperature and air pressure
[02:27] <cyphermox> let's see how fast it falls through to unstable, and then we can bring it up on ubuntu-devel ?
[02:28] <cyphermox> I'm definitely not against updating, but I want to avoid changing too many things and focus more on bug fixing, especially given all the work I need to do for other things
[09:41] <maxklim> Hi guys! Will you include these (https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde) patches for firefox-kde integration in the case of migration to firefox as the default browser in 14.04?
[09:50] <valorie> maxklim: maybe ask when freenode has settled down
[09:51]  * valorie goes to bed
[09:51] <maxklim> valorie: yep, it seems like now there are some problems with the network
[09:51] <maxklim> valorie: thanks
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: nah we do new years properly in scotland, taking it easy until monday
[11:38] <Riddell> jose: yo, yo pinged?
[11:41] <Riddell> cyphermox: yeah mm 1 is fine as far as far as I know, do you have a ppa we can test with?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, decided to have a shot of Baileys in my morning coffee, celebrating the survival of the coldest weather in 22 yrs
[11:43] <BluesKaj> and the New Year , of course :)
[12:29] <mitya57> shadeslayer: With the just committed r377, qt4 merge looks finished to me
[12:33] <mitya57> s/377/378/
[12:33] <kubotu> mitya57 meant: "shadeslayer: With the just committed r378, qt4 merge looks finished to me"
[14:20] <shadeslayer> cyphermox: ack
[14:21] <shadeslayer> valorie: in case anyone asks in the future, there is no plan to include the kde patches
[14:21] <shadeslayer> in firefox
[14:25] <shadeslayer> mitya57: thanks a ton, I'll review and upload
[15:56] <jose> Riddell: hey, I wanted to check with you, I updated the images that appear on the thumbnails on the theme but now that it's deployed I still see the old ones
[15:57] <jose> and copied over the HTML from feature-tour-new to feature-tour and it's like... it's going out of the borders
[18:09] <shadeslayer> could someone upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/network-manager-vpnc_0.9.8.6-1ubuntu2.dsc
[18:12] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1204182] setlocale.sh can break user-chosen locales and encodings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1204182 (by Graeme Hewson)
[18:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[18:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer: anything exciting?
[18:24] <Riddell> jose: did you file a request to update the theme with the sysadmins?
[18:24] <jose> Riddell: yeppers, it's already on the current revision
[18:24] <jose> thedac pulled it
[18:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the plugin depends on the transitional package which is not present on new 14.04 installs, causing it to install the gnome package
[18:24] <shadeslayer> s/depends on/recommends/
[18:24] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "Riddell: the plugin recommends the transitional package which is not present on new 14.04 installs, causing it to install the gnome package"
[18:27] <Riddell> jose: i'll look in a sec
[18:27] <jose> thanks
[18:45] <Riddell> jose: hmm doesn't look like it's updated, this image still exists but is deleted in the branch http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/images/feature-tour/internet/feature-tour-apps-kopete1.png
[18:46] <jose> Riddell: weird, lemme poke IS again once I see someone on vanguard :)
[18:55] <Riddell> jose: hmm this one does seem to be up to date http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/images/feature-tour/internet/Kmail640.png
[18:55] <Riddell> jose: can you give an example of one which isn't update to date on the website?
[19:32] <jose> Riddell: that one is the latest one, and as an example the thumbnail of akregator
[19:33] <Riddell> jose: groovy, so what's not working?
[19:35] <jose> the new images I put
[19:35] <jose> I mean, not the new, but the updated
[19:38] <Riddell> jose: give me an example url that isn't updated
[19:40] <jose> oh, none of the images I updated are linked on the site
[19:40] <jose> I'll fix the HTML once I get back home
[19:41] <Riddell> that would be it :)
[19:41] <jose> cool, thanks!
[20:48] <valorie> thanks, shadeslayer
[22:18] <Riddell> gosh 4.11.5
[22:18] <Riddell> do we bother?
[22:42] <valorie> is it bug fixes, or what?
[22:42] <yofel> we'll need workspace, and having it in saucy-updates would be good I guess?
[22:42] <yofel> I'll try to get to it tomorrow
[22:43]  * valorie found out today that the old dog has bladder cancer
[22:43] <valorie> :(
[22:43] <valorie> she still seems ok
[22:44] <valorie> but pees all the time because her bladder is full of a mass
[22:50]  * Riddell hugs valorie 
[22:53] <valorie> thank you
[22:53] <valorie> she's 15, so..... I guess everyone dies from something
[22:53] <valorie> but healthy and happy so far is good