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i_tomvalorie: how come kdeconnect controls your tv or player ?00:04
i_tomsounds neat00:04
valoriethrough the bluetooth, if they are available00:06
valoriedon't take this as gospel from me, because I believe my phone (htc one) also has a tv controller in it00:06
i_tomoh, my tv is very basic, it hasn't any wifi or bluetooth capabilites, it's just aerial and hdmi :(00:07
valoriealthough when I tried to set it up, the settings didn't save00:07
valorieok00:07
i_tombut I look forward to buying anew one00:07
i_tomsoon00:07
i_tomso kdeconnect would be an option00:07
i_tomwhat about that settings problem00:07
i_tomwhen you restart the app, all the settings are set to their defaults ?00:08
valorieI think that was with the phone itself, not with kdeconnect00:08
stunneri have to check that out i had used vnc for windows and bought the app but i have to try that00:08
valorieI haven't investigated, because I don't want to use my phone for that00:08
valoriebought which app?00:08
i_tomwhat was your phone back then, just curious00:08
valoriekdeconnect is free00:08
stunnervnc viewer00:08
valorieah00:08
stunnerfor the phone00:09
valoriei_tom: this is my new phone, the htc one00:09
stunneri have a galaxy s200:09
valorienever tried anything with my old phone, which was a thunderbolt, because it was sub-optimal, let us say00:09
i_tomI see00:10
valoriewith the new phone, it works well00:12
valorieI was so happy to be able to control amarok playing music even when the screen was locked, while I was wrapping Xmas presents00:13
stunneras i read into it it seems kde connect is using the same network i would want to use mobile network or a different lan once in a while to access my desktop though00:17
stunnerin windows i used my external ip worked great00:19
valoriestunner: it's bluetooth00:31
eksip_dd00:41
James0rthere a way to display the time as 7:49PM instead of 07:4900:49
James0rthe leading zero is a little strange looking00:49
James0rfinally found a conky config that i like with KDE. Conky Lua, looks really nice. not too imposing00:55
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AtaraxzyPoke poke.02:16
AtaraxzyQuestion: In System Settings -> Workspace Behavior -> Screen Edges, I only have the four corners available, yet yesterday, I had more, both the top and sides.  Where might I find the dialog to restore the missing edge-points.02:20
soeeAtaraxzy: under this settings you have Switch screen on edges02:28
soeeif you change it to first option02:29
soeeyou will get back all positions02:29
Ataraxzyfirst option? Awesome!02:30
AtaraxzyYup! that was it.  Too easy.  Sometimes it's so easy it's hard. :P02:30
soee;]02:33
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tom_hello04:05
tom_anyone on?04:06
tom_ok04:06
TrelUnder what circumstances would kde-window-decorator-active fail to load when the non-active version works fine?04:12
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RiotingPacifistloginctl list-sessions and ck-list-sessions don't show the same info and this is breaking nmcli, is there a bridge package i need to make sure kdm updates both?04:52
TrelIf i05:50
Trelsorry, if I want to copy all kde settings and widget placement from one profile to another (without getting anything profile specific) which files need to be copied?05:51
valorieTrel: most settings are in your ~/.kde file05:58
valoriebest idea is to copy over the whole *renamed* folder, then move in stuff as needed05:59
valorieor put it on a thumb drive, etc.06:00
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Trelvalorie: I think I got it mostly clean by copying the whole config file and then grepping for any mention of the old username, and either removing the file completely, or editing out the lines06:04
valoriecool06:04
valoriein any case, I had something messed up awhile ago, and couldn't figure out what, so I used that method06:05
valorieit worked really well06:05
TrelI have one other question, I noticed since upgrading from 12 to 13, the network manager in KDE is different, and the edit connections window specifically looks a lot worse (can't even resize horizontally) any idea if anything can be done with that, or if the whole app can be replaced with something better?06:05
valorieif you do one file or folder at a time, you can easily remove/rename06:05
valoriethe older application was pretty much worn out and broken06:06
valorieI heard a lot of griping about the appearance right at first, but now everyone (or nearly so) seems to like it06:06
valorieit works, so you rarely have to open it up06:06
Trelvalorie: for wifi, yes, but not so much for VPN06:08
valoriehmmm, someone was talking about that earlier, and had a good solution.....06:09
valorieOpen a terminal and run "apt-cache policy network-manager-openvpn"06:09
valorieif you don't have it, install it06:10
valoriethanks to lordievader for that one06:10
Trelvalorie: I do have that, it doesn't help with the setup, the name is cut off because I can't resize horizontally...06:10
valorieoh, that sucks06:10
valoriewell, please file a bug with KDE06:10
valoriesince it is new, I'm sure the devel will work with you06:11
Treloh wow, and now I can't remove it as it's just showing the VPN section, but not the connection (but it's listed in the toast interface)06:11
valoriethat doesn't sound good06:13
Trelthat fixed itself, just the resize issue now06:15
valorieif that persists, please file a bug at bugs.kde.org06:16
TrelIt's 100% consistant for me, same for you?06:21
valorieit isn't resizable for me, but that causes no problems06:22
valoriebut I don't use a vpn either06:22
valorieor have any connections with a long name06:22
valorieeverything has Just Worked since I got the new one06:22
TrelThe resizable thing is the problem, at its default size, even the dates are cut off06:25
valorieall I'm saying is, if you don't file a bug, how will the devel know it's a problem?06:26
Trelvalorie: someone else told me they CAN resize, so I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end.06:27
valorieTrel: it's a bug one way or another!06:29
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Guest99536hello06:48
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skepticfd06:49
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aditya215help06:50
aditya215?06:50
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valorieweezer: what do you need help with?06:50
valoriepfff06:51
Guest2607hello, i have a desktop system with corei3 3210  on intel DH61BF motherboard and nvidia gt610 synergy edition graphics card running ubuntu 13.10, can i use bumblebee?07:10
valorie!bumblebee07:11
valoriehmmm07:11
valorie!info bumblebee07:11
ubottubumblebee (source: bumblebee): NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.2.1-3 (saucy), package size 59 kB, installed size 229 kB (Only available for linux-any)07:12
Guest2607https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee07:12
valorieif you have that link, then you know more than I do, sorry07:12
Guest2607hmmm :( i could have tried it out myself by installing but the system is away at my home(i'll be going next week), wanted to know whether it was possible07:14
Guest2607thanks anyway07:15
valoriethis is always a really quiet time in the chan07:16
valorieplus it's friday night07:16
ote-mtest07:33
valorieote-m: test for what?07:35
valorie!test07:35
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )07:35
valorieheh07:35
ote-mI've never used irc before, and none of my commands (/help) were working, so I just typed test to figure out if anything was working07:35
ote-mI'm having trouble booting kubuntu, where should I go for help?07:36
valoriedescribe your trouble?07:36
valoriemost of the helpers aren't online atm, but I might be able to help07:36
ote-mI've put Kubuntu 13.10 on a memory stick using Linux Live USB creator. When I boot from the stick on my hackintosh, a menu comes up with the options live mode, persistant mode, etc. But when I try to select any of them, it gives me the error "/casper/vmlinuz: file not found". I've opened the stick on other machines and I can't seem to find any casper directory. Google wasn't my friend in this search.07:38
valorieah07:39
valoriedid you use the Mac option, or just the regular ISO?07:39
valoriealso, which version of Kubuntu?07:41
valorieLTS, or 13.1007:41
valorie32 or 64 bit07:41
ote-mi believe the regular ISO. but I'm booting from the bios, why would I need to select the mac option? 13.20, put that up there, and 64-bit.07:42
ote-mwhoops, 13.10 my bad.07:42
valorienot sure, there is some tiny difference07:42
valorieinteresting: http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/bios-boot-errors.htm07:44
valoriemight be worth a try07:44
ote-mright. I'll give this a try. Thanks!07:44
valoriegood luck, ote-m07:46
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maxklimDue to mass joining occuring now I think I could repeat my question (excuse me if it's not appropriate). hi! I'm going to use blue-shell ppa for firefox integration with KDE, but I'm not sure how secure is it to trust this ppa. Could you advise me something?09:31
valoriemaxklim: can you give me the PPA url?09:33
valoriebots are back, that's good09:34
valoriehoping services are back online soon as well09:34
lordievadervalorie: Where they gone because of the netsplit?09:34
maxklimvalorie: https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde09:34
valoriewell, I assume a common cause09:35
valorieattack > netsplit & services down09:35
maxklimvalorie: what do you think about this PPA?09:35
lordievadershadeslayer seems to upload to the PPA.09:35
valorieyes, he's one of our best packagers & coders09:36
lordievaderLots of Kubu-devs are part of the Blue-Shell team.09:36
valorieso I would trust it, although it's not "official"09:36
lordievaderI'd trust it too.09:36
valoriehe will appreciate testing and feedback09:36
maxklimvalorie: thank you!09:36
valoriethanks for asking!09:37
maxklimlordievader: thank you too!09:37
maxklim:-)09:37
lordievadermaxklim: No problem :)09:37
maxklimdo you guys use firefox or chrome/chromium?09:37
valorieI use chromium09:37
valoriehowever, we're considering moving to FF for the next release09:38
valorieI assume that PPA is getting that up to snuff09:38
lordievaderI use Chrome.09:38
maxklimvalorie: will you include these patches for firefox-kde integration in the case of this migration?09:38
valoriei'm not a packager, so I don't know09:38
maxklimokay, it is clear09:39
lordievadermaxklim: Poke around in #kubuntu-devel09:39
maxklimlordievader: I'll do09:39
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dread22hi can anyone help with an issue with opensuse?11:28
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dread22i am stuck with no GUI just text: linux-pgim login: i use my login and get user@linux-pgim:~>! cannt get any further please help11:35
Allison43Hey all11:37
dread22if anyone an help mesage me on skype swilkinson971i need help11:40
Allison43just ask here dread22 , we don't do private consultation11:44
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kriseHello, I need a advice11:54
krisewhat is the best and easyest way to remote control my laptop with android phone, i ndd to control onlu toutchpad and keyboard11:55
Avihaywell, there's a project called KDE Connect that is currently working on that11:56
Avihaybut I bet that there are other solutions11:56
kriseThanks , ill take a look11:58
krisewell i dont know how to use kde connect12:09
krisehow do i set it up12:09
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ghostryder3333lol12:27
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michaI'm wondering if it's possible to mount a usb  drive on two different PC's - both connected to the same usb hub, any idea?14:15
BluesKajmicha, as long as the drive is setup as shared it might work , not sure tho14:22
michaBluesKaj you mean having more partitions on that drive?14:28
BluesKajmicha, no , setup the folders/dirs data on the usb as shared, read/write in File/properties14:31
michaBluesKaj, thank you I will try that...14:32
BluesKajmicha, properties>permissions14:33
bacicciaciao14:51
baciccia!list14:51
ubottubaciccia: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:51
mank319Hey folks :-)15:10
BluesKajhi mank31915:11
mank319Anyone else experiencing slwo Desktop and overall performance after a suspend to ram and resume?15:11
BluesKajdunno , haven't set that up yet, maybe i should15:12
mank319im on intel had Graphics here, some Sandybridge i5 without dedicated graphics15:12
mank319i thought it was related to some powersaving options when on battery with my notebook15:12
mank319but after fiddling around with cpu governor settings and laptop-mode without success i realsied, that the slowness only happens after i supsend by closing the laptop lid and resume again15:13
mank319other than that it runs like a charm and is the best DesktopEnvironment (feature wise) I have experienced on any os yet ;-)15:13
mank319it affects many aspects graphcis (e.g. animations when min/maximizing windows) but also io stuff like startup time of programs (got and Samsung SSD, if that makes a difference)15:14
mank319it is something i can live with, especially now that I have found out how to reproduce (and how not to! :P) but if it is reproducable by others, it may be  worth a bugreport ;-)15:16
BluesKajmank319, I have intel graphics on thei laptop as well , the i915 driver. but i haven't noticed any slowness after suspend session/sleep15:18
mank319aye... I do not really think that it is related to graphics as the generall startup time of e.g. dolphin is like  2 - 3x longer after resume15:22
mank319and it does not get better over time15:23
mank319until i reboot15:23
BluesKajone thing I did notice however was file transfer speed dropped by 90% when I close the lid and there's doesn't seem to be a setting to defeat that action15:23
BluesKajbetween my desktop kubuntu computer and this laptop15:25
mank319do you mean local transfers or network based?15:26
mank319ahh ok15:26
mank319strange15:26
mank319whatever... i have n ssd - booting does not take long - so i dont really mind rebooting a few times a day15:26
BluesKajit's a hidden default action that i can't track down15:26
mank319mhh15:27
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mank319i may add that i am not on "standart kubuntu" but rather a minimal installation of ubuntu with kde as de and kubuntu ppa's in apt-sources15:28
mank319so some of the default settings may differ15:28
BluesKajyeah ssds are nice , but I settled for a larger hdd at this point15:28
mank319hehe everything i need much space for (graphics, videos, 3D data) is on my home server15:29
BluesKajok , understood , mank31915:29
BluesKajmy HTPC is getting old and media-data redundancy is probly in order for the time being15:31
mank319hehe15:35
mank319here comes a fun fact15:35
mank319replacing suspend to ram by hibernate fixes the "problem"15:35
BluesKajmanmi, ok , good to know15:41
BluesKajoops15:41
alihkhi everybody is there anybody can help me to share open vpn connection with other device ( e.g phone ) by proxy??16:09
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amichairghil: no luck - the graphics problem from a few days ago wasn't solved after all. After a few hours of running with the newer NVidia drivers and native rather than raster qt graphics mode, I still got blank screens when turning on the second monitor :-( Then I turned off effects to get my screen back, and shortly afterwards got a panel freeze. So nothing really changed.17:09
BluesKajamichair, afaik the nvidia driverrs run best with OpenGL and raster17:12
amichairBluesKaj: that's how they were running for a very long time. I switched to native (instead of raster) a few days ago to see if it helps some issues, but it made no difference.17:13
BluesKajnative is for nouveau afaik17:14
amichairBluesKaj: ok, so I'll switch it back. makes no difference to me.17:14
BluesKajamichair, did you install the experimental 331 driver17:15
BluesKaj?17:15
amichairBluesKaj: I installed 331.20 from nvidia's site. That didn't change much either.17:16
amichairI might try 325.15 as well, but I doubt it'll help17:18
BluesKajamichair, their proprietary drivers are known to be break stuff after a kubuntu update/upgrade17:19
BluesKajthe nvidia-319 driver is the one to use , it's the nvidia-current driver for most nvidias on 13.1017:22
ichery_i receive the following message on my Kubuntu box  after loggin in safe mode and  unable to access the desktop since it happened: 'Ubhid couldn't find an input endpoint'  - any help wld be appreciated17:22
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BluesKajichery_, can you get to a virtual console/TTY with ctrl+alt+F1-F6 , then login and run,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , then sudo reboot17:29
BluesKajgotta go ...BBL stuff to do17:32
ichery_BluesKaj, No. That was my first thought..17:37
ichery_Is the system hosed? can it be repaired or do i have to reinstall?17:38
mparilloHappy New Year. I would like to connect to a Cisco VPN, and I was going to sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc per the advice I found here:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu_Precise_Networking#VPN_clients but it seems to be a gnome-centric solution.17:48
mparilloI get this: The following extra packages will be installed: network-manager-vpnc-gnome vpnc The following NEW packages will be installed: network-manager-vpnc network-manager-vpnc-gnome vpnc17:49
mparilloIs there a more native KDE alternative?17:49
shadeslayermparillo: moment18:01
shadeslayermparillo: so this is a bug in the packaging18:02
shadeslayermparillo: what release are you running?18:02
shadeslayerhere's a quick way to fix it : sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install network-manager-vpnc18:03
mparilloThis might be user error on my part.18:03
BluesKajmparillo, which vpn protocol ?18:04
shadeslayermparillo: nope, bug18:04
mparillo14.04 I clicked on the wrench on my network manager, and I saw manage connections, and I think I can add a new VPN (vpnc) Cisco Compatible.18:04
shadeslayerapt tries to install the gnome stuff because it doesn't see plasma-widget-networkmanagement on your system since in 14.04 it's called plasma-nm now18:05
mparilloBut do I even need to apt-get it if the Connection Editor allows me to add a VPN connection?18:05
shadeslayermparillo: yes18:05
BluesKajmparillo, network manager has widgets for vpns depending on what type pptp , opevpn or whtever cisco uses18:06
BluesKajerr openvpn18:06
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mparilloBluesKaj: I believe the Cisco VPN protocol is called vpnc (at least according to what I read here: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/install-cisco-vpn-client-ubuntu-13-04-13-10/)18:10
shadeslayermparillo: does it work correctly now?18:11
mparilloThe no-install-recommends definately did not include the gnome modules18:12
soee_have you tried to used 2 screens in a combination like laptop + TV through hdmi ?18:13
soee_i i plug in TV systems performance is much lower18:13
soee_*if18:13
soee_it like from stable ~60 FPS to 2018:14
BluesKajmparillo, yes, vpnc client is available in the package manager18:15
mparilloThank you BluesKaj and shadeslayer. Do I need to reboot? The Connections Editor looks identical.18:17
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shadeslayermparillo: nope18:17
shadeslayerthough maybe just logout / login if it doesn't work18:17
BluesKajsoee_, in system settings display , choose the hdmi settings and resolution18:18
soeeBluesKaj: hdmi settings ?18:18
soeehmm18:18
mparilloI suppose the next step (it was on WIndows) is to import my pcf file.18:18
soeelet me try some combinations18:18
BluesKajthe hdmi output should show with options if the cableis connected to the tv , soee18:19
soeeBluesKaj: yes and i can set resolution and refresh rate18:20
soeebut this changes nothing18:20
soeealso18:20
BluesKajmparillo, does cisco have a tutorial how to set the username and pw in the client to pass onto the server when connecting18:21
soeetv shows like new desktop, but if i reboot it shows the one i have on laptop18:21
BluesKajgraphics chip driver update maybe , soee ?18:22
BluesKaj anyway gotta go , no rest for the wicked ...BBL18:23
mparilloBluesKaj: The tutorial I have involves downloading their Windows GUI, and using it to import the pcf file (which I suppose contains configuration and keys). I will look around, but thanks to you and shadeslayer for your help. The instructions at ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/install-cisco-vpn-client-ubuntu-13-04-13-10/ create a file, but I am not sure it does anything.18:27
mparilloThe KDE way to import the pcf file is: http://www.ubun2.com/question/155/how_remote_connect_ubuntu_without_linux_cisco_vpn_client18:43
mparillosudo apt-get install kvpnc18:44
LyytsHello All, I'm with Kubuntu 12.04 and my apt_check.py keep crashing, please let me know how to fix that, thanks.19:14
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LyytsAnyone able to help on this topic?19:20
LyytsAnyone?19:25
BluesKajLyyts, apt-heck runs at boot , look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/75888/what-is-apt-check-and-why-does-it-run-during-boot19:35
BluesKajmake sure python is installed correctly19:35
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LyytsThank you BlueKaj - i will try that.19:37
apb1963how can i replace the kde mixer in the system tray with alsamixer?19:41
BluesKajalsamixer has no gui , hence no associated icon , apb196319:43
BluesKajalsamixer is command line only, afaik19:43
apb1963BluesKaj: icons are typically associated with programs... I want to reassociate the existing icon in the tray with a different program.19:44
BluesKajapb1963, one can change program icons , but not vice versa19:45
BluesKajinteresting thought tho19:46
apb1963so there's no way to call a program  from the tray, unless it has an icon?19:47
vmusrapb1963, depends what you understand19:47
BluesKajas far as I know, that's the case19:48
vmusryou can call shell script19:48
apb1963vmusr: how please?19:48
vmusrjust create a shell script somewhere, and you can create a shortcut19:48
* BluesKaj doesn't hold his breath19:49
apb1963vmusr: how do I create the shortcut?19:49
vmusrjust drag it to the taskbar ;)19:49
apb1963drag what?19:49
apb1963from where?19:49
vmusrthe shell script19:49
vmusrfor example create in your home folder a file myshellscript19:50
apb1963yes19:50
vmusrmake it executable19:50
apb1963and then?19:50
apb1963ok, no problem... then?19:50
vmusrwrite inside your script or whatever program you want to run. Then drag this file to the taskbar :019:51
apb1963Drag it from where?19:51
apb1963Oh you mean from a file manager like dolphin19:51
vmusrfrom Dolphin (the location where it is) and place it on the taskbar19:51
apb1963got it19:51
vmusrapb1963, yep19:51
vmusror whatever manager you use :)19:51
apb1963let me try.... back in a minute19:52
apb1963Perfect19:57
apb1963No script required.... just dragged alsamixer over19:57
apb1963Adjusted the properties to run in a terminal.... voila19:57
apb1963Thanks!19:58
vmusrapb1963, you can also run some things via krunner19:59
apb1963vmusr: without meaning to sound rude or insulting or anything... how is that useful?20:00
apb1963I've never (knowingly) used krunner so other than seeing it crash from time to time... I have no idea what it's used for.20:00
apb1963or why20:01
vmusrit's really nice thing - basically like universal search for applications, windows or whatever plugins you enable20:02
vmusrapb1963, for example when I'm working i prefer to run a keyboard shortcut and type something on the kbd instead of lifting my hand from the it and moving to the mouse20:02
apb1963I spend most of my time typing.... I use the command line more often than the GUI.... though there's plenty of point & click too.  So I'm still not following.20:04
apb1963I have 8 virtual desktops20:04
apb1963I click to change DTs20:05
apb1963Then, depending on what I need to do... I either point & click in a program... or type.20:05
apb1963I have several Konsole windows open on each DT20:05
apb1963or is it a VD? :)20:06
vmusrapb1963, half of the actions you described could probably be done from keyboard via krunner20:07
vmusryou should give it a try, it's a nice feature20:07
apb1963ok, thanks :)20:08
vmusralso, if you have that much virtual desktops consider more monitors :)20:09
vmusrdespite that multimonitor sucks no matter what distro/window manager you use20:09
apb1963vmusr: I'd love more monitors!  Do you prefer to pick them out yourself and have them shipped to me, or would you prefer to just send it to my paypal account and have me pick out my own? :)20:10
apb1963what a nice guy!  Now I can't say nobody ever buys me anything!20:11
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i3lack0pi am having an issue compiling and installing rtl8192ce  kernel driver to replace the default one is anyone with experience compiling drivers give me a hand. Im not23:10
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