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foobarry | spotted at the museum of childhood. the small text says "i think war games are..." http://i.imgur.com/tVFbKae.jpg | 07:33 |
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Myrtti | $time_of_day | 10:12 |
MartijnVdS | za jan 4 11:12:44 CET 2014 | 10:12 |
popey | moin | 10:20 |
bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:25 |
brobostigon | morning everyone, | 10:32 |
brobostigon | is it possible to resize an ext4 partition to make space for a partition to put haiku on, without mucking up grub2? | 10:34 |
arc__ | Good morning | 10:37 |
arc__ | Uk | 10:37 |
brobostigon | morning arc__ | 10:38 |
dwatkins | is Haiku what became of BeOS? | 10:39 |
brobostigon | dwatkins: yes, and i want to more permentnetly test on real hw than only inside a vm. | 10:39 |
dwatkins | looks ace | 10:39 |
brobostigon | its is, it has came along huge strides. | 10:39 |
dwatkins | I wonder if it will run Steam games like KSP. | 10:40 |
brobostigon | no idea. | 10:40 |
arc__ | Haiku why are u talking about poems :D | 10:40 |
brobostigon | they do have a modern upto hate html5 and webkit implementation. | 10:40 |
brobostigon | upto date* | 10:41 |
dwatkins | arc__: https://www.haiku-os.org/gallery?albumid=5167080228181734945 | 10:41 |
brobostigon | a beautiful hybrid kernel OS, :) | 10:41 |
brobostigon | anyways back to my question ,if i did that, would it wreck grub2? | 10:42 |
arc__ | looks ok | 10:42 |
brobostigon | its the best gui i have ever used, and the fastest, and the fastest booting. | 10:43 |
arc__ | Not the best looking | 10:43 |
brobostigon | that very different, form being perfect in terms of usability. | 10:44 |
arc__ | Yea 9t is very useable | 10:44 |
arc__ | Makes me think of windows | 10:45 |
brobostigon | the design is so different, its much closer to the amiga. | 10:46 |
popey | brobostigon: resizing ext4 down shouldn't be a problem | 10:46 |
brobostigon | popey: ok thank you. | 10:47 |
arc__ | It's just it's not pleasing for the eyes | 10:48 |
dwatkins | 9t? | 10:48 |
arc__ | It | 10:49 |
dwatkins | :) | 10:49 |
dwatkins | I thought you might be referring to a window manager | 10:49 |
arc__ | So it's not based on linux then [cool] | 10:49 |
arc__ | Lol | 10:49 |
dwatkins | I like i3: http://i3wm.org/ | 10:49 |
arc__ | No | 10:50 |
dwatkins | I do, true fact. | 10:50 |
arc__ | Really | 10:50 |
arc__ | ? | 10:50 |
dwatkins | I'm confused as to what you're saying, arc__ | 10:51 |
arc__ | I got a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 lts to play with so see ya[i meant nothing just messing] | 10:51 |
brobostigon | ok, does the drive reference and or the partition uuid need to be equal for grub2 to recognise it? | 10:56 |
bigcalm | Anybody here, apart from me, use nut? | 11:55 |
MartijnVdS | bigcalm: nut? | 12:12 |
MartijnVdS | bigcalm: ah the network ups thung | 12:13 |
MartijnVdS | thing | 12:13 |
bigcalm | MartijnVdS: I take that as a no then :) | 12:13 |
arc__ | Ahh ubuntu being slow [good times] | 12:36 |
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bigcalm | So, does the dash do fancy number conversions like google does? | 12:58 |
arc__ | What can win server do that ubuntu server cant ? | 13:01 |
MartijnVdS | crash a lot | 13:01 |
arc__ | Really? | 13:01 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: it's better than ever, but I still wouldn't recommend it ;) | 13:01 |
MartijnVdS | unless you're made of money.. | 13:02 |
arc__ | which server os can admin linux mac and windows | 13:02 |
bigcalm | It can run ms sql server | 13:02 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: that question does not make sense | 13:02 |
arc__ | so i can create manange users on other os's | 13:03 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: An OS is an OS, "server" and "not-server" is usually just a difference of a few tuning parameters and maybe more ""desktop"-like software preinstalled | 13:03 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_AD_DC_HOWTO | 13:03 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: Any of those 3 OSes can do that :) | 13:03 |
arc__ | Ok but not user management | 13:04 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: yes, also user management | 13:04 |
arc__ | on other client os [win , mac, linux ] | 13:05 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: you can connect a Windows machine to a Linux machine running Samba4 in AD DC mode, and log in using any user from the AD | 13:05 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: you can manage that AD (which runs on the Linux box) from Linux fine | 13:05 |
MartijnVdS | Apple is a bit special. | 13:05 |
arc__ | Oh ok | 13:06 |
arc__ | Why apple a bit special ? | 13:06 |
MartijnVdS | arc__: well, you CAN bind it to AD, but it's weird. | 13:06 |
arc__ | how weired | 13:07 |
MartijnVdS | please read the documentation yourself to figure that out. | 13:07 |
arc__ | ok :( | 13:07 |
arc__ | But this samba is completely a diffrent server os [rather than the one u install a normal ubuntu desktop right ?] | 13:08 |
MartijnVdS | no | 13:08 |
MartijnVdS | it's a piece of software you can run on a Linux (or BSD, or other Unix) machine | 13:08 |
MartijnVdS | just like MS SQL Server is a piece of software you can run on a Windows machine | 13:09 |
arc__ | Ok | 13:09 |
arc__ | So it should be included in ubuntu server 12.04.3 right | 13:10 |
arc__ | ? | 13:10 |
MartijnVdS | samba4 - dummy transitional package for samba 4.x series | 13:10 |
MartijnVdS | that's on current development | 13:10 |
MartijnVdS | samba4 - SMB/CIFS file, NT domain and active directory server (version 4) | 13:11 |
MartijnVdS | that's on 12.04 | 13:11 |
MartijnVdS | it probably works better in the newer versions (like the new LTS, coming in April) | 13:11 |
arc__ | Ok will read up and try it out today then | 13:11 |
Myrtti | trying to watch the same tv show while being 1000miles apart is a bit difficult | 13:19 |
brobostigon | worked perfectly, no issues, haiku build environment back again. | 13:44 |
brobostigon | can wait to get my hands on the packaging system, | 13:45 |
brobostigon | cant* | 13:45 |
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dwatkins | people still use 123reg.co.uk? wow | 14:54 |
dwatkins | Myrtti: I assume it's not simply a case of browsing to http://tvcatchup.com ... | 14:55 |
Myrtti | dwatkins: no, it's more about synchronised watching | 16:22 |
brobostigon | cm11-m2-grouper, :) | 16:24 |
Myrtti | o ho | 17:01 |
Myrtti | syncplay seems promising | 17:01 |
Myrtti | very promising | 17:33 |
daftykins | for what scenario? | 17:43 |
Myrtti | for me being in Finland and dsample in UK and wanting to watch the same show at the same time while in a Google+ Hangout with eachother | 17:46 |
Myrtti | *cough* Sherlock *cough* | 17:46 |
daftykins | ah right | 17:49 |
daftykins | yeah in another chan they watch films with a few at the same time but it doesn't tend to be done very scientifically | 17:49 |
daftykins | despite them being aware of syncplay | 17:49 |
penguin42 | Myrtti: Crap! | 17:53 |
penguin42 | (I really did find it pretty bad) | 17:53 |
Myrtti | penguin42: hum? | 17:53 |
dwatkins | I imagine with the right hardware, you could simply pipe the video feed from the TV/set-top-box into the hangout | 17:53 |
penguin42 | Myrtti: Sherlock | 17:53 |
dwatkins | or just have it downloaded and press play at the same time, iPlayer or whatever | 17:54 |
Myrtti | dwatkins: sure, but being able to control pausing etc helps with keeping in sync | 17:55 |
Myrtti | penguin42: *shrug* could've been better but it was ok. | 17:55 |
penguin42 | Myrtti: Just thought it was missing much plot or any hard problems | 17:57 |
Myrtti | well yes, it was a filler | 17:59 |
moreati | sherlock? | 18:04 |
Myrtti | yeah. | 18:06 |
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mapito | hey | 18:42 |
mapito | anyone able to answer a quick dns query? | 18:42 |
daftykins | just ask! | 18:43 |
mapito | quick question - say I had an A record example.com IN A 1.2.3.4 could I not just then have a CNAME record like www.example.com IN CNAME example.com record to make www.example.com point to example.com so you could use both http:// and http://wwww | 18:44 |
daftykins | on my control panel with my provider, i have two A records for that | 18:46 |
daftykins | the first is blank in the 'name' field and points to the IP | 18:46 |
daftykins | then the second has the name 'www' and also points to the IP | 18:47 |
mapito | yea thats what i'd read aswell an a record for example.com and an a record for the www | 18:47 |
daftykins | so that should work if you're having issues with non-www's failing | 18:47 |
mapito | but why couldnt you have example.com point to the IP using an A record then www.ex.com a CNAME to example.com ? | 18:47 |
mapito | maybe im just being stupid but i dont see why a cname wouldnt work :) | 18:47 |
daftykins | that sounds like it'd cause a repeat to me | 18:48 |
daftykins | you don't want to double requests | 18:48 |
mapito | hmm | 18:48 |
daftykins | but i don't know DNS as well as i'd like unfortunately | 18:48 |
mapito | because we'd be requesting www.example.com then example.com i see | 18:48 |
mapito | yea was just curious :) | 18:48 |
daftykins | i think so yeah | 18:48 |
mapito | thanks | 18:48 |
daftykins | np :) | 18:48 |
mapito | installed cowsay on my machine now :D | 18:49 |
daftykins | XD | 18:49 |
mapito | nice to get the little info bits when i login | 18:50 |
mapito | quiet ere today | 18:51 |
daftykins | yeah it is a bit | 18:53 |
mapito | what you doing? man that London sky cycle thing would be cool - and am i the only person that wants google glass or a competitors..if and when anyone else launches | 18:55 |
daftykins | sat at my desktop with the cat on my lap, playing a game at the moment :) | 18:57 |
mapito | what game? you thought much about glass? | 18:58 |
daftykins | it's a little too gimmicky for me really, plus i wear specs normally anyway so i'd probably have to sell a kidney for such things | 18:59 |
daftykins | i picked up Max Payne 3 during the Steam sales, so trying that out at the moment | 18:59 |
mapito | theyre working on prescription glasses that work with glass | 19:06 |
mapito | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57616418-93/google-glass-prescription-frames-said-to-start-at-$99/ | 19:07 |
daftykins | yeah that's what'd cost a fortune | 19:07 |
daftykins | i already pay £350+ for a pair of specs | 19:07 |
mapito | wish theyd hurry up with the ftc here | 19:14 |
daftykins | what do you have at the moment? | 19:15 |
mapito | 6mbit adsl:( | 19:17 |
daftykins | hmm, are you in some rural outskirts somewhere? | 19:20 |
daftykins | i'm on the Channel Island of Guernsey and now have 40 down, 5 up VDSL2 for £35/month unlimited | 19:21 |
mapito | In stoke - ST1 area - 6mbit adsl when i was in ST4 had 6mbit too it sucks man | 19:21 |
mapito | 7years ago at uni I had 20mbit NTL in PO2 or whatever fenton is and then 20mbit again in PO1 | 19:21 |
mapito | my dad has 75mbit BT FTC and 100mbit VM says hes gona dump one..but i cant get ANYTHING | 19:22 |
daftykins | ouch | 19:22 |
daftykins | heh two services is nice | 19:22 |
mapito | yea having the choice..but yep i have nothing bt site says FTC is there soon and its accepting orders but that means accepting orders from isps..so not ready7 for customers yet | 19:23 |
mapito | who you with | 19:26 |
daftykins | we have our own telcos down here on the islands | 19:27 |
daftykins | a company in Bahrain now owns it | 19:27 |
mapito | ah | 19:27 |
popey | Evening all. | 20:00 |
daftykins | hiya | 20:02 |
ali1234 | unity still gives weird, irrelevant, and inappropriate results: http://imagebin.org/285172 | 20:20 |
penguin42 | ali1234: I feel that is the title of a launchpad bug | 20:24 |
ali1234 | yeah i'm just wondering what package i should even report it against | 20:24 |
penguin42 | unity-scope-onlinemusic - Unity Scope that provides online music to the Dash. ? | 20:25 |
ali1234 | i kind of feel like nobody will even see it there | 20:25 |
ali1234 | plus it isn't hard to get rubbish like this from any of the scopes | 20:26 |
penguin42 | just unity then? | 20:26 |
penguin42 | ali1234: I'm not sure whether the word or the fact that it in no way matches the search term offends me more | 20:27 |
popey | ali1234: file a bug against that package and I'll make sure someone sees it. | 20:32 |
popey | someone useful. | 20:32 |
ali1234 | popey: bug 1266098 | 21:02 |
lubotu3 | bug 1266098 in unity-scope-onlinemusic (Ubuntu) "Music scope returns weird, irrelevant, inappropriate, NSFW results" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266098 | 21:02 |
penguin42 | ali1234: What's the word under the redline after Disco? | 21:06 |
ali1234 | penguin42: it actually says "...e" | 21:07 |
penguin42 | ali1234: Ah right | 21:07 |
ali1234 | the result is shortened | 21:07 |
ali1234 | the actual word though is gnome | 21:07 |
ali1234 | so the shortening algorithm removed the only part that matched the search | 21:07 |
penguin42 | ali1234: OK, so a google search says that TF have a tune 'Disco Gnome (Tale of Us Remix)' | 21:07 |
penguin42 | ali1234: So that's why that was a match | 21:08 |
ali1234 | right but it's still weird (robocop riding a unicorn?), irrelevant to what i wanted, and NSFW | 21:08 |
* penguin42 has probably now popped his search bubble having searched for that | 21:08 | |
penguin42 | ali1234: Oh I agree, but it does at least explain why it matched | 21:09 |
popey | ali1234: ta | 21:13 |
ali1234 | does firefox use gtk2 or gtk3? | 21:16 |
ali1234 | if it uses gtk3, why does it's file open requester look different to the one in gedit, under trusty? | 21:16 |
ali1234 | but if it uses gtk2, why does it display ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks in the sidebar? | 21:17 |
penguin42 | I'd say it uses 2 | 21:18 |
penguin42 | ali1234: It would make sense for them both to share one set of bookmarks, otherwise it would get messy | 21:19 |
ali1234 | gtk2 uses ~/.gtk-bookmarks | 21:19 |
ali1234 | at least it used to | 21:20 |
penguin42 | it certainly seems bad for them to use different ones, and it seems right that being config it should be in .config | 21:21 |
ali1234 | actually that can't be right | 21:23 |
ali1234 | yeah, ok | 21:27 |
ali1234 | so they rewrote file requesters in gtk 3.10 | 21:27 |
ali1234 | in 3.8 they are identical to gtk2 ones | 21:27 |
ali1234 | but when you install trusty, gtk2 and gtk3 apps now have different file requesters | 21:28 |
* penguin42 doesn't think he has any GTK3 apps installed | 21:31 | |
Myrtti | oooher http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/athene-utility-style-bracelet | 21:42 |
bigcalm | Myrtti: that looks quite nice | 21:44 |
Myrtti | it does | 21:45 |
bigcalm | Sadly not going to make its goal though | 21:45 |
bigcalm | People lack money after xmas | 21:45 |
bigcalm | Oh, it's gone the flexible funding route though | 21:46 |
Myrtti | indeed | 21:49 |
arc___ | hey if i want to make my ubuntu server a primary domain controller do i need to install samba4 | 23:07 |
arc___ | do i do apt-get install samba4 | 23:08 |
arc___ | anyone or am i asking in the wrong place ? | 23:10 |
penguin42 | arc___: #ubuntu is main support | 23:19 |
penguin42 | arc___: I don't know the Samba foo though | 23:19 |
ali1234 | ugh... firefox has this stupid bug where redirects stop working | 23:40 |
ali1234 | i've seen it on two machines now | 23:40 |
ali1234 | it stops happening if you restart firefox... until the next time it happens | 23:40 |
ali1234 | it could only be a bug in firefox, or caused by adblock plus... i can't stand to use the internet without adblock plus for long enough to reproduce it | 23:41 |
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