=== richard is now known as Guest56818 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [07:33] spotted at the museum of childhood. the small text says "i think war games are..." http://i.imgur.com/tVFbKae.jpg === DJones is now known as Guest10586 === PaulW2U is now known as Guest9135 === ikonia_ is now known as Guest81077 [10:12] $time_of_day [10:12] za jan 4 11:12:44 CET 2014 [10:20] moin [10:25] Good morning peeps :) [10:32] morning everyone, [10:34] is it possible to resize an ext4 partition to make space for a partition to put haiku on, without mucking up grub2? [10:37] Good morning [10:37] Uk [10:38] morning arc__ [10:39] is Haiku what became of BeOS? [10:39] dwatkins: yes, and i want to more permentnetly test on real hw than only inside a vm. [10:39] looks ace [10:39] its is, it has came along huge strides. [10:40] I wonder if it will run Steam games like KSP. [10:40] no idea. [10:40] Haiku why are u talking about poems :D [10:40] they do have a modern upto hate html5 and webkit implementation. [10:41] upto date* [10:41] arc__: https://www.haiku-os.org/gallery?albumid=5167080228181734945 [10:41] a beautiful hybrid kernel OS, :) [10:42] anyways back to my question ,if i did that, would it wreck grub2? [10:42] looks ok [10:43] its the best gui i have ever used, and the fastest, and the fastest booting. [10:43] Not the best looking [10:44] that very different, form being perfect in terms of usability. [10:44] Yea 9t is very useable [10:45] Makes me think of windows [10:46] the design is so different, its much closer to the amiga. [10:46] brobostigon: resizing ext4 down shouldn't be a problem [10:47] popey: ok thank you. [10:48] It's just it's not pleasing for the eyes [10:48] 9t? [10:49] It [10:49] :) [10:49] I thought you might be referring to a window manager [10:49] So it's not based on linux then [cool] [10:49] Lol [10:49] I like i3: http://i3wm.org/ [10:50] No [10:50] I do, true fact. [10:50] Really [10:50] ? [10:51] I'm confused as to what you're saying, arc__ [10:51] I got a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 lts to play with so see ya[i meant nothing just messing] [10:56] ok, does the drive reference and or the partition uuid need to be equal for grub2 to recognise it? [11:55] Anybody here, apart from me, use nut? [12:12] bigcalm: nut? [12:13] bigcalm: ah the network ups thung [12:13] thing [12:13] MartijnVdS: I take that as a no then :) [12:36] Ahh ubuntu being slow [good times] === LjL^ is now known as LjL [12:58] So, does the dash do fancy number conversions like google does? [13:01] What can win server do that ubuntu server cant ? [13:01] crash a lot [13:01] Really? [13:01] arc__: it's better than ever, but I still wouldn't recommend it ;) [13:02] unless you're made of money.. [13:02] which server os can admin linux mac and windows [13:02] It can run ms sql server [13:02] arc__: that question does not make sense [13:03] so i can create manange users on other os's [13:03] arc__: An OS is an OS, "server" and "not-server" is usually just a difference of a few tuning parameters and maybe more ""desktop"-like software preinstalled [13:03] arc__: http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_AD_DC_HOWTO [13:03] arc__: Any of those 3 OSes can do that :) [13:04] Ok but not user management [13:04] arc__: yes, also user management [13:05] on other client os [win , mac, linux ] [13:05] arc__: you can connect a Windows machine to a Linux machine running Samba4 in AD DC mode, and log in using any user from the AD [13:05] arc__: you can manage that AD (which runs on the Linux box) from Linux fine [13:05] Apple is a bit special. [13:06] Oh ok [13:06] Why apple a bit special ? [13:06] arc__: well, you CAN bind it to AD, but it's weird. [13:07] how weired [13:07] please read the documentation yourself to figure that out. [13:07] ok :( [13:08] But this samba is completely a diffrent server os [rather than the one u install a normal ubuntu desktop right ?] [13:08] no [13:08] it's a piece of software you can run on a Linux (or BSD, or other Unix) machine [13:09] just like MS SQL Server is a piece of software you can run on a Windows machine [13:09] Ok [13:10] So it should be included in ubuntu server 12.04.3 right [13:10] ? [13:10] samba4 - dummy transitional package for samba 4.x series [13:10] that's on current development [13:11] samba4 - SMB/CIFS file, NT domain and active directory server (version 4) [13:11] that's on 12.04 [13:11] it probably works better in the newer versions (like the new LTS, coming in April) [13:11] Ok will read up and try it out today then [13:19] trying to watch the same tv show while being 1000miles apart is a bit difficult [13:44] worked perfectly, no issues, haiku build environment back again. [13:45] can wait to get my hands on the packaging system, [13:45] cant* === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Guest10586 is now known as DJones [14:54] people still use 123reg.co.uk? wow [14:55] Myrtti: I assume it's not simply a case of browsing to http://tvcatchup.com ... [16:22] dwatkins: no, it's more about synchronised watching [16:24] cm11-m2-grouper, :) [17:01] o ho [17:01] syncplay seems promising [17:33] very promising [17:43] for what scenario? [17:46] for me being in Finland and dsample in UK and wanting to watch the same show at the same time while in a Google+ Hangout with eachother [17:46] *cough* Sherlock *cough* [17:49] ah right [17:49] yeah in another chan they watch films with a few at the same time but it doesn't tend to be done very scientifically [17:49] despite them being aware of syncplay [17:53] Myrtti: Crap! [17:53] (I really did find it pretty bad) [17:53] penguin42: hum? [17:53] I imagine with the right hardware, you could simply pipe the video feed from the TV/set-top-box into the hangout [17:53] Myrtti: Sherlock [17:54] or just have it downloaded and press play at the same time, iPlayer or whatever [17:55] dwatkins: sure, but being able to control pausing etc helps with keeping in sync [17:55] penguin42: *shrug* could've been better but it was ok. [17:57] Myrtti: Just thought it was missing much plot or any hard problems [17:59] well yes, it was a filler [18:04] sherlock? [18:06] yeah. === Guest81077 is now known as ikonia [18:42] hey [18:42] anyone able to answer a quick dns query? [18:43] just ask! [18:44] quick question - say I had an A record example.com IN A 1.2.3.4 could I not just then have a CNAME record like www.example.com IN CNAME example.com record to make www.example.com point to example.com so you could use both http:// and http://wwww [18:46] on my control panel with my provider, i have two A records for that [18:46] the first is blank in the 'name' field and points to the IP [18:47] then the second has the name 'www' and also points to the IP [18:47] yea thats what i'd read aswell an a record for example.com and an a record for the www [18:47] so that should work if you're having issues with non-www's failing [18:47] but why couldnt you have example.com point to the IP using an A record then www.ex.com a CNAME to example.com ? [18:47] maybe im just being stupid but i dont see why a cname wouldnt work :) [18:48] that sounds like it'd cause a repeat to me [18:48] you don't want to double requests [18:48] hmm [18:48] but i don't know DNS as well as i'd like unfortunately [18:48] because we'd be requesting www.example.com then example.com i see [18:48] yea was just curious :) [18:48] i think so yeah [18:48] thanks [18:48] np :) [18:49] installed cowsay on my machine now :D [18:49] XD [18:50] nice to get the little info bits when i login [18:51] quiet ere today [18:53] yeah it is a bit [18:55] what you doing? man that London sky cycle thing would be cool - and am i the only person that wants google glass or a competitors..if and when anyone else launches [18:57] sat at my desktop with the cat on my lap, playing a game at the moment :) [18:58] what game? you thought much about glass? [18:59] it's a little too gimmicky for me really, plus i wear specs normally anyway so i'd probably have to sell a kidney for such things [18:59] i picked up Max Payne 3 during the Steam sales, so trying that out at the moment [19:06] theyre working on prescription glasses that work with glass [19:07] http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57616418-93/google-glass-prescription-frames-said-to-start-at-$99/ [19:07] yeah that's what'd cost a fortune [19:07] i already pay £350+ for a pair of specs [19:14] wish theyd hurry up with the ftc here [19:15] what do you have at the moment? [19:17] 6mbit adsl:( [19:20] hmm, are you in some rural outskirts somewhere? [19:21] i'm on the Channel Island of Guernsey and now have 40 down, 5 up VDSL2 for £35/month unlimited [19:21] In stoke - ST1 area - 6mbit adsl when i was in ST4 had 6mbit too it sucks man [19:21] 7years ago at uni I had 20mbit NTL in PO2 or whatever fenton is and then 20mbit again in PO1 [19:22] my dad has 75mbit BT FTC and 100mbit VM says hes gona dump one..but i cant get ANYTHING [19:22] ouch [19:22] heh two services is nice [19:23] yea having the choice..but yep i have nothing bt site says FTC is there soon and its accepting orders but that means accepting orders from isps..so not ready7 for customers yet [19:26] who you with [19:27] we have our own telcos down here on the islands [19:27] a company in Bahrain now owns it [19:27] ah [20:00] Evening all. [20:02] hiya [20:20] unity still gives weird, irrelevant, and inappropriate results: http://imagebin.org/285172 [20:24] ali1234: I feel that is the title of a launchpad bug [20:24] yeah i'm just wondering what package i should even report it against [20:25] unity-scope-onlinemusic - Unity Scope that provides online music to the Dash. ? [20:25] i kind of feel like nobody will even see it there [20:26] plus it isn't hard to get rubbish like this from any of the scopes [20:26] just unity then? [20:27] ali1234: I'm not sure whether the word or the fact that it in no way matches the search term offends me more [20:32] ali1234: file a bug against that package and I'll make sure someone sees it. [20:32] someone useful. [21:02] popey: bug 1266098 [21:02] bug 1266098 in unity-scope-onlinemusic (Ubuntu) "Music scope returns weird, irrelevant, inappropriate, NSFW results" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266098 [21:06] ali1234: What's the word under the redline after Disco? [21:07] penguin42: it actually says "...e" [21:07] ali1234: Ah right [21:07] the result is shortened [21:07] the actual word though is gnome [21:07] so the shortening algorithm removed the only part that matched the search [21:07] ali1234: OK, so a google search says that TF have a tune 'Disco Gnome (Tale of Us Remix)' [21:08] ali1234: So that's why that was a match [21:08] right but it's still weird (robocop riding a unicorn?), irrelevant to what i wanted, and NSFW [21:08] * penguin42 has probably now popped his search bubble having searched for that [21:09] ali1234: Oh I agree, but it does at least explain why it matched [21:13] ali1234: ta [21:16] does firefox use gtk2 or gtk3? [21:16] if it uses gtk3, why does it's file open requester look different to the one in gedit, under trusty? [21:17] but if it uses gtk2, why does it display ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks in the sidebar? [21:18] I'd say it uses 2 [21:19] ali1234: It would make sense for them both to share one set of bookmarks, otherwise it would get messy [21:19] gtk2 uses ~/.gtk-bookmarks [21:20] at least it used to [21:21] it certainly seems bad for them to use different ones, and it seems right that being config it should be in .config [21:23] actually that can't be right [21:27] yeah, ok [21:27] so they rewrote file requesters in gtk 3.10 [21:27] in 3.8 they are identical to gtk2 ones [21:28] but when you install trusty, gtk2 and gtk3 apps now have different file requesters [21:31] * penguin42 doesn't think he has any GTK3 apps installed [21:42] oooher http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/athene-utility-style-bracelet [21:44] Myrtti: that looks quite nice [21:45] it does [21:45] Sadly not going to make its goal though [21:45] People lack money after xmas [21:46] Oh, it's gone the flexible funding route though [21:49] indeed [23:07] hey if i want to make my ubuntu server a primary domain controller do i need to install samba4 [23:08] do i do apt-get install samba4 [23:10] anyone or am i asking in the wrong place ? [23:19] arc___: #ubuntu is main support [23:19] arc___: I don't know the Samba foo though [23:40] ugh... firefox has this stupid bug where redirects stop working [23:40] i've seen it on two machines now [23:40] it stops happening if you restart firefox... until the next time it happens [23:41] it could only be a bug in firefox, or caused by adblock plus... i can't stand to use the internet without adblock plus for long enough to reproduce it === LjL^ is now known as LjL === DGJones is now known as DJones