| mreut | hey, just installed ubuntu studio lts and seem to be having an issue with puredata | 03:50 |
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| mreut | won't open documentation and audio/midi test patch | 03:51 |
| mreut | from error window.... | 03:51 |
| mreut | couldn't open "/usr/lib/puredata/doc/1.manual/1.introduction.txt": no such file or directory | 03:51 |
| holstein | mreut: what test patch? | 03:52 |
| holstein | mreut: it could be that that documentation has just changed or moved.. or been phased out | 03:53 |
| holstein | mreut: i would try and refer to upstream documentation | 03:53 |
| mreut | test patch under "Media"->"Test Audio and MIDI..." | 03:54 |
| holstein | mreut: i would just skip that, and start using it.. see if you can get it to work | 03:55 |
| mreut | I'll give it a wiz-bang and see what happens, normally fire that patch up first thing whenever I do a new system just to make sure everything is sane. | 03:56 |
| holstein | mreut: could be the patch is gone/missing | 03:56 |
| holstein | mreut: i dont think we ship it anymore.. and im not sure why | 03:56 |
| mreut | holstein: No dice thus far. Just running alsa at the moment. | 04:01 |
| holstein | mreut: i thought it required JACK? | 04:01 |
| mreut | holstein: I've ran it on other systems using only alsa, though it offers support for JACK | 04:03 |
| holstein | mreut: ubuntustudio ships pulse | 04:03 |
| mreut | holstein: Has ubuntu studio tweeked it for JACK only? | 04:03 |
| mreut | holstein: ahhhhhhh | 04:03 |
| holstein | mreut: AFAIK, we only repackage and drop it in | 04:03 |
| holstein | you'll want to be using JACK anyway | 04:03 |
| holstein | lubuntu doesnt (or didnt last i checked) ship pulse | 04:04 |
| mreut | bah, doesn't want to play nice with JACK either :( | 04:07 |
| mreut | going to double check everything just to make sure I didn't make any dumb moves. | 04:08 |
| holstein | mreut: sure.. any errors too, feel free and share | 04:08 |
| holstein | mreut: you can try #opensourcemusicians ...i just dont use it | 04:09 |
| holstein | got nothing first hand to helpout | 04:09 |
| mreut | I'll check out that channel if things still look grim, thanks! | 04:09 |
| zequence | mreut: Hi. I use pure data a lot | 04:10 |
| zequence | It's purely the way debian packagers packaged it, and more or less, the way it is in original code | 04:10 |
| zequence | mreut: If you prefer pd-extended, you could add the "official" ppa for it | 04:11 |
| zequence | just run the command: | 04:11 |
| mreut | I'm fine with vanilla for my needs, just need something to come out to my headphones for me to be happy. | 04:12 |
| zequence | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pd-extended | 04:12 |
| zequence | mreut: pd uses alsa by defailt | 04:12 |
| zequence | mreut: Not pulseaudio | 04:13 |
| zequence | mreut: It can be a bit tricky, but if you want to use jack instead, just make sure to start jack first | 04:13 |
| zequence | mreut: A few pd releases are a bit buggy | 04:13 |
| mreut | hmm, when I was running xubuntu, it more or less worked right out of the box. | 04:13 |
| zequence | mreut: It's the same OS | 04:14 |
| mreut | do things work better in ubuntu studio v13? | 04:14 |
| mreut | more stable version of pd there? | 04:14 |
| zequence | It's the exact same package | 04:14 |
| zequence | What you get with Ubuntu Studio is preconfigured low latency | 04:15 |
| mreut | I understand it being the same OS, which is why I'm perplexed that a fresh install doesn't provide any sound out. | 04:15 |
| zequence | All the installable software is exactly the same between all the Ubuntu flavors | 04:15 |
| holstein | you were likely using xubuntu 12.04 or something other than 13.10, and you are now on ubuntustudio 13.10.. or the other way around | 04:15 |
| zequence | It's actually exactly the same between Debian and Ubuntu. We import all the applications from Debian | 04:16 |
| mreut | ahh ok | 04:16 |
| zequence | 12.10 and 13.04 are certainly different | 04:16 |
| mreut | I was running xubuntu 13.10 previously | 04:17 |
| zequence | Some core stuff is not the same | 04:17 |
| zequence | Ubuntu Studio uses linux-lowlatency | 04:17 |
| mreut | yep yep | 04:17 |
| zequence | linux-lowlatency is essentially linux-generic, what Ubuntu and all the other flavors use | 04:18 |
| holstein | its the versions that are so diffrent.. not the flavours so much | 04:18 |
| zequence | It's just a bit more responsive | 04:18 |
| zequence | Exactly | 04:18 |
| holstein | the packages in xubuntu 13.10 and ubuntustudio 13.10 will be the same.. same versions.. if they are installed in both versions | 04:18 |
| holstein | they share the same repos | 04:18 |
| zequence | They use the same repositories | 04:18 |
| zequence | Right :) | 04:18 |
| mreut | so here is my real problem then, have an [osc~ 440]--->---[*~ 0.5]--->---[dac~] | 04:19 |
| mreut | no sound, set to alsa | 04:19 |
| zequence | mreut: That has more to do with sound setup in pd | 04:20 |
| zequence | mreut: I would suggest to you to drop into #datafow, which is the channel mostly used for pd | 04:21 |
| mreut | huh, maybe I just don't have sound period..... | 04:21 |
| mreut | no sound from firefox either... | 04:21 |
| zequence | alsa is one of the many sound systems | 04:21 |
| mreut | hmmmmm | 04:21 |
| zequence | When do you not have sound from firefox? | 04:21 |
| zequence | Always, or just sometimes? | 04:21 |
| zequence | In Ubuntu , there is a sound system called pulseaudio, which uses alsa drivers | 04:22 |
| mreut | background info: I just installed ubuntu studio about 20 min ago | 04:22 |
| zequence | There's also the pro audio server called jack, which also uses alsa drivers | 04:22 |
| mreut | so at this point, I haven't heard anything yet. | 04:22 |
| zequence | There's also plain alsa | 04:22 |
| zequence | mreut: What kind of audio device do you have? | 04:23 |
| zequence | !proaudio | 04:23 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 04:23 |
| mreut | just using headphone out on my desktop | 04:23 |
| zequence | mreut: Pleade read that page first :) | 04:23 |
| mreut | HDA Intel - VIA VT1708S | 04:24 |
| zequence | It's a regular audio device | 04:24 |
| zequence | hdmi out? | 04:24 |
| zequence | you said headphones, sorry | 04:24 |
| mreut | 3.5mm hooked up to my headphones | 04:24 |
| mreut | alsamixer shows master level at -13.5 dB gain | 04:25 |
| zequence | Should work. Just make sure all levels and options are set correctly for pulseaudio, when it comes to firefox | 04:25 |
| zequence | To test sound, please reboot the computer, and only use whatever application it is you want to use, for testing purposes | 04:26 |
| zequence | Like firefox | 04:26 |
| mreut | I"ll reboot and see what happens | 04:27 |
| mreut | nada | 04:29 |
| mreut | is there a terminal audio test utility? | 04:30 |
| holstein | !info cvlc | 04:30 |
| ubottu | Package cvlc does not exist in saucy | 04:30 |
| holstein | vlc has cvlc which is in the terminal | 04:31 |
| mreut | Running 12.04 LTS fresh install with all updates | 04:31 |
| holstein | mreut: after installing vlc, running "cvlc" will run vlc in the terminal | 04:31 |
| zequence | to test alsa, try aplay | 04:32 |
| zequence | I forget what the pulseaudio equivalent tool is | 04:34 |
| zequence | you can basically do: aplay /path/to/myaudiofile.wav | 04:34 |
| mreut | nothing | 04:36 |
| mreut | :( | 04:36 |
| zequence | I shouldn't be awake at this hour. bb later :) | 04:36 |
| mreut | sweet dreams | 04:36 |
| zequence | mreut: you probably only need to set the right output in pulseaudio controls | 04:36 |
| zequence | whatever the app is called.. I forget again | 04:36 |
| mreut | Pulse Audio Volume Control? | 04:37 |
| zequence | Sure | 04:37 |
| mreut | doesn't look like that's the one, doesn't have anything worth mention | 04:38 |
| mreut | in regards to my problem | 04:38 |
| mreut | wondering if the updates did something to my system | 04:40 |
| mreut | calling it a night | 04:42 |
| mreut | zzz | 04:43 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Eureka! I think I found the answer to the whole EFI problem thus far. | 15:57 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (Signed image aside) | 15:57 |
| SonikkuAmerica | The problem occurs with the EFI boot files being placed under the /EFI/ubuntustudio/ dir instead of /EFI/ubuntu/ in the ESP. | 16:01 |
| SonikkuAmerica | The pragmatic thing to do would be to alter the default GRUB 2 config when the EFI boot files are created to look in (ESP)/EFI/ubuntustudio/ for grub.cfg , but another workaround for now is to rename the ubuntustudio folder to ubuntu | 16:03 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (which would also make the $prefix correct) | 16:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yo | 17:03 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (wrong channel) | 17:03 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Also, is there a plan to set more of the standard Ubuntu settings in xfce4-settings-manager like Xubuntu? | 17:05 |
| zequence | You would be most welcome to help us out on this stuff | 17:37 |
| zequence | The plan has been for a while to base everything on existing DE's and offer the possibility to install any of them | 17:37 |
| zequence | We'd just keep our own theme | 17:37 |
| zequence | The menu also, but that's more of an application the way we package it | 17:38 |
| zequence | SonikkuAmerica: ^ | 17:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Be glad to... | 17:39 |
| zequence | I'm a bit out of time today, but just log in to #ubuntustudio-devel, and hang out | 17:40 |
| SonikkuAmerica | k | 17:40 |
| Python673 | Does anyone know how to setup a Steinberg UR22 USB audio interface in Ubuntu Studio? | 19:34 |
| Python673 | Is that a no? | 19:36 |
| Patero-ng | I'm in love with an anorexic girl that thinks eating is moreally wrong | 20:19 |
| holstein | Patero-ng: maybe you would be more happy talking about that in #ubuntu-offtopic | 20:22 |
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