[03:50] <mreut> hey, just installed ubuntu studio lts and seem to be having an issue with puredata
[03:51] <mreut> won't open documentation and audio/midi test patch
[03:51] <mreut> from error window....
[03:51] <mreut> couldn't open "/usr/lib/puredata/doc/1.manual/1.introduction.txt": no such file or directory
[03:52] <holstein> mreut: what test patch?
[03:53] <holstein> mreut: it could be that that documentation has just changed or moved.. or been phased out
[03:53] <holstein> mreut: i would try and refer to upstream documentation
[03:54] <mreut> test patch under "Media"->"Test Audio and MIDI..."
[03:55] <holstein> mreut: i would just skip that, and start using it.. see if you can get it to work
[03:56] <mreut> I'll give it a wiz-bang and see what happens, normally fire that patch up first thing whenever I do a new system just to make sure everything is sane.
[03:56] <holstein> mreut: could be the patch is gone/missing
[03:56] <holstein> mreut: i dont think we ship it anymore.. and im not sure why
[04:01] <mreut> holstein: No dice thus far. Just running alsa at the moment.
[04:01] <holstein> mreut: i thought it required JACK?
[04:03] <mreut> holstein: I've ran it on other systems using only alsa, though it offers support for JACK
[04:03] <holstein> mreut: ubuntustudio ships pulse
[04:03] <mreut> holstein: Has ubuntu studio tweeked it for JACK only?
[04:03] <mreut> holstein: ahhhhhhh
[04:03] <holstein> mreut: AFAIK, we only repackage and drop it in
[04:03] <holstein> you'll want to be using JACK anyway
[04:04] <holstein> lubuntu doesnt (or didnt last i checked) ship pulse
[04:07] <mreut> bah, doesn't want to play nice with JACK either :(
[04:08] <mreut> going to double check everything just to make sure I didn't make any dumb moves.
[04:08] <holstein> mreut: sure.. any errors too, feel free and share
[04:09] <holstein> mreut: you can try #opensourcemusicians ...i just dont use it
[04:09] <holstein> got nothing first hand to helpout
[04:09] <mreut> I'll check out that channel if things still look grim, thanks!
[04:10] <zequence> mreut: Hi. I use pure data a lot
[04:10] <zequence> It's purely the way debian packagers packaged it, and more or less, the way it is in original code
[04:11] <zequence> mreut: If you prefer pd-extended, you could add the "official" ppa for it
[04:11] <zequence> just run the command:
[04:12] <mreut> I'm fine with vanilla for my needs, just need something to come out to my headphones for me to be happy.
[04:12] <zequence> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pd-extended
[04:12] <zequence> mreut: pd uses alsa by defailt
[04:13] <zequence> mreut: Not pulseaudio
[04:13] <zequence> mreut: It can be a bit tricky, but if you want to use jack instead, just make sure to start jack first
[04:13] <zequence> mreut: A few pd releases are a bit buggy
[04:13] <mreut> hmm, when I was running xubuntu, it more or less worked right out of the box.
[04:14] <zequence> mreut: It's the same OS
[04:14] <mreut> do things work better in ubuntu studio v13?
[04:14] <mreut> more stable version of pd there?
[04:14] <zequence> It's the exact same package
[04:15] <zequence> What you get with Ubuntu Studio is preconfigured low latency
[04:15] <mreut> I understand it being the same OS, which is why I'm perplexed that a fresh install doesn't provide any sound out.
[04:15] <zequence> All the installable software is exactly the same between all the Ubuntu flavors
[04:15] <holstein> you were likely using xubuntu 12.04 or something other than 13.10, and you are now on ubuntustudio 13.10.. or the other way around
[04:16] <zequence> It's actually exactly the same between Debian and Ubuntu. We import all the applications from Debian
[04:16] <mreut> ahh ok
[04:16] <zequence> 12.10 and 13.04 are certainly different
[04:17] <mreut> I was running xubuntu 13.10 previously
[04:17] <zequence> Some core stuff is not the same
[04:17] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio uses linux-lowlatency
[04:17] <mreut> yep yep
[04:18] <zequence> linux-lowlatency is essentially linux-generic, what Ubuntu and all the other flavors use
[04:18] <holstein> its the versions that are so diffrent.. not the flavours so much
[04:18] <zequence> It's just a bit more responsive
[04:18] <zequence> Exactly
[04:18] <holstein> the packages in xubuntu 13.10 and ubuntustudio 13.10 will be the same.. same versions.. if they are installed in both versions
[04:18] <holstein> they share the same repos
[04:18] <zequence> They use the same repositories
[04:18] <zequence> Right :)
[04:19] <mreut> so here is my real problem then, have an [osc~ 440]--->---[*~ 0.5]--->---[dac~]
[04:19] <mreut> no sound, set to alsa
[04:20] <zequence> mreut: That has more to do with sound setup in pd
[04:21] <zequence> mreut: I would suggest to you to drop into #datafow, which is the channel mostly used for pd
[04:21] <mreut> huh, maybe I just don't have sound period.....
[04:21] <mreut> no sound from firefox either...
[04:21] <zequence> alsa is one of the many sound systems
[04:21] <mreut> hmmmmm
[04:21] <zequence> When do you not have sound from firefox?
[04:21] <zequence> Always, or just sometimes?
[04:22] <zequence> In Ubuntu , there is a sound system called pulseaudio, which uses alsa drivers
[04:22] <mreut> background info: I just installed ubuntu studio about 20 min ago
[04:22] <zequence> There's also the pro audio server called jack, which also uses alsa drivers
[04:22] <mreut> so at this point, I haven't heard anything yet.
[04:22] <zequence> There's also plain alsa
[04:23] <zequence> mreut: What kind of audio device do you have?
[04:23] <zequence> !proaudio
[04:23] <mreut> just using headphone out on my desktop
[04:23] <zequence> mreut: Pleade read that page first :)
[04:24] <mreut> HDA Intel - VIA VT1708S
[04:24] <zequence> It's a regular audio device
[04:24] <zequence> hdmi out?
[04:24] <zequence> you said headphones, sorry
[04:24] <mreut> 3.5mm hooked up to my headphones
[04:25] <mreut> alsamixer shows master level at -13.5 dB gain
[04:25] <zequence> Should work. Just make sure all levels and options are set correctly for pulseaudio, when it comes to firefox
[04:26] <zequence> To test sound, please reboot the computer, and only use whatever application it is you want to use, for testing purposes
[04:26] <zequence> Like firefox
[04:27] <mreut> I"ll reboot and see what happens
[04:29] <mreut> nada
[04:30] <mreut> is there a terminal audio test utility?
[04:30] <holstein> !info cvlc
[04:31] <holstein> vlc has cvlc which is in the terminal
[04:31] <mreut> Running 12.04 LTS fresh install with all updates
[04:31] <holstein> mreut: after installing vlc, running "cvlc" will run vlc in the terminal
[04:32] <zequence> to test alsa, try aplay
[04:34] <zequence> I forget what the pulseaudio equivalent tool is
[04:34] <zequence> you can basically do: aplay /path/to/myaudiofile.wav
[04:36] <mreut> nothing
[04:36] <mreut> :(
[04:36] <zequence> I shouldn't be awake at this hour. bb later :)
[04:36] <mreut> sweet dreams
[04:36] <zequence> mreut: you probably only need to set the right output in pulseaudio controls
[04:36] <zequence> whatever the app is called.. I forget again
[04:37] <mreut> Pulse Audio Volume Control?
[04:37] <zequence> Sure
[04:38] <mreut> doesn't look like that's the one, doesn't have anything worth mention
[04:38] <mreut> in regards to my problem
[04:40] <mreut> wondering if the updates did something to my system
[04:42] <mreut> calling it a night
[04:43] <mreut> zzz
[15:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Eureka! I think I found the answer to the whole EFI problem thus far.
[15:57] <SonikkuAmerica> (Signed image aside)
[16:01] <SonikkuAmerica> The problem occurs with the EFI boot files being placed under the /EFI/ubuntustudio/ dir instead of /EFI/ubuntu/ in the ESP.
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> The pragmatic thing to do would be to alter the default GRUB 2 config when the EFI boot files are created to look in (ESP)/EFI/ubuntustudio/ for grub.cfg , but another workaround for now is to rename the ubuntustudio folder to ubuntu
[16:04] <SonikkuAmerica> (which would also make the $prefix correct)
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> (wrong channel)
[17:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, is there a plan to set more of the standard Ubuntu settings in xfce4-settings-manager like Xubuntu?
[17:37] <zequence> You would be most welcome to help us out on this stuff
[17:37] <zequence> The plan has been for a while to base everything on existing DE's and offer the possibility to install any of them
[17:37] <zequence> We'd just keep our own theme
[17:38] <zequence> The menu also, but that's more of an application the way we package it
[17:38] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: ^
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Be glad to...
[17:40] <zequence> I'm a bit out of time today, but just log in to #ubuntustudio-devel, and hang out
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> k
[19:34] <Python673> Does anyone know how to setup a Steinberg UR22 USB audio interface in Ubuntu Studio?
[19:36] <Python673> Is that a no?
[20:19] <Patero-ng> I'm in love with an anorexic girl that thinks eating is moreally wrong
[20:22] <holstein> Patero-ng: maybe you would be more happy talking about that in #ubuntu-offtopic