[00:02] <jarnos> sergio-br2, does your Session tab show all applications?
[00:04] <sergio-br2> all open applications? I think no
[00:09] <jarnos> sergio-br2, odd, if you can't see session name else than in login.
[00:13] <sergio-br2> jarnos, you mean: Firefox and gmusicbrowser in Session tab, for example?
[00:13] <jarnos> sergio-br2, yes
[00:13] <jarnos> sergio-br2, and as for session name, default, or any name I gave to it.
[00:14] <sergio-br2> i saved the session, and they does not appear in Session tab... even if i do logout and login, and goes to this tab
[00:14] <sergio-br2> but i don't know if this is the expected behavior.
[00:14] <sergio-br2> and dunno how to change session name
[00:15] <jarnos> sergio-br2, how to even check session name, if you forgot which session you logged to?
[00:16] <sergio-br2> there are only xfwm4, Thunar, xfce4-panel, and other things in Session tab. Does anyone knows if it is the expectade behavior?
[00:16] <sergio-br2> jarnos, i didn't undertand your question
[00:17] <jarnos> sergio-br2, if you created a new session in the "chooser" on login, you can give a name to it. But how do you see the session name while you are in that session?
[00:18] <sergio-br2> you are using saucy or trusty?
[00:18] <jarnos> sergio-br2, s
[00:20] <sergio-br2> jarnos, i don't know
[00:23] <sergio-br2> good question
[07:49] <elfy> ochosi: you put a thin white line around the terminal icon - that is a whole lot better :)
[07:49]  * elfy ticks something of his list of things to whine about :)
[07:53]  * Unit193 puts 3 more on.
[07:54] <elfy> dressed finally then ... 
[09:33] <ochosi> forestpiskie: well happy to make you feel a little less despondent
[09:36] <forestpiskie> ha ha ha 
[09:36] <forestpiskie> I'm now despondent about nickserv playing up :)
[09:37] <forestpiskie> ochosi: I actually quite like that icon with it's thin white dress :)
[09:38] <ochosi> :)
[09:38] <ochosi> good to hear
[09:38] <ochosi> we'll see, i'm still considering to ship alternative appicons
[09:40] <forestpiskie> tbf the only reason I noticed was down to setting everything to defaults and the shimmer ppa - normally I'd have faenza wolf
[09:41] <ochosi> wolf?
[09:41] <forestpiskie> seem to have now the constant transparent indicator panel since this morning's update to the theme
[09:41] <ochosi> don't think it's related to the theme
[09:41] <forestpiskie> faenzawolfev4
[09:41] <ochosi> must be something else
[09:42] <ochosi> hm, never heard of that, got a link for me?
[09:42] <forestpiskie> k - thought I'd mention 
[09:42] <ochosi> what version of the panel are you using now?
[09:42] <forestpiskie> mmmm - I'll try - I just move the files from install to install
[09:42] <forestpiskie> ochosi: I have the 4 ppas here - so whatever I get served up
[09:43] <ochosi> ok, so not the panel from git master
[09:43] <forestpiskie> nope
[09:43] <ochosi> i think the ppa hasn't been updated, Noskcaj hasn't managed yet so we have to wait for him...
[09:43] <forestpiskie> I'm trying to just stick with one thing here
[09:43] <forestpiskie> yea, understood that 
[09:43] <ochosi> yeah, sounds reasonable
[09:44] <ochosi> anyway, most of that issue should be fixed as soon as the PPA gets updated
[09:45] <forestpiskie> not sure where I got the icons from  - I can tar it up and send it you if you want
[09:45] <ochosi> nah, i can check whether i can find them somewhere
[09:46] <ochosi> or would you know what the diff is to "normal" faenza?
[09:46] <forestpiskie> all I can find is normal one - the appearance/icons thing in settings - calls it v4
[09:46] <forestpiskie> no idea what the diff is 
[09:52] <ochosi> no problem
[09:52] <forestpiskie> ochosi: not sure how I'm talking to you at all in here - mad netsplits and services missing and neither of us are in -devel as far as elfy is concerned :p
[09:52] <ochosi> hehe, yeah, we're in the netherworld :)
[09:53] <forestpiskie> spooky ... is the netherworld logged ... :>\
[09:54] <elfy> and we're 
[09:54] <forestpiskie> back
[10:39] <ochosi> i think we should/could s/gthumb/shotwell/
[12:26] <elfy> why? 
[12:27] <knome> i'm +0, i probably don't use either
[12:27] <elfy> just wondering the reasons  - never actually use either 
[12:27] <elfy> lol - was just saying that :)
[14:22] <elfy> hi sergio-br2 
[14:37] <sergio-br2> hello elfy
[16:59] <elfy> well I don't know where they're coming from - but I seem to see more people popping by and saying they need help with some aspect of testing - so perhaps the bombardment is beginning to make a difference
[17:00] <elfy> not that I'm seeing it on the trackers
[18:03] <sergio-br2> elfy, the bug #1210898 is fixed in xfce 4.12 ppa?
[18:05] <ochosi> hey pmjdebruijn 
[18:05] <sergio-br2> i have trusty installed in my Itautec laptop, with xfce 4.12 ppa and others things to test the gtk3 indicators, and Thunar mount drives and media normally, and opens a thunar window too
[18:06] <elfy> sergio-br2: well - those bugs are often intermittent 
[18:07] <sergio-br2> but without ppa, with only iso, this is not intermittent, i guess
[18:07] <elfy> and to prove it - I plugged in one that mounted fine earlier today - and now ... 
[18:07] <elfy> no mounting by that
[18:08] <ochosi> yeah, i think i can also reproduce it here
[18:08] <ochosi> at least i did a while ago
[18:08] <elfy> I've seen in intermittently for all the time I've used xubuntu - sometimes it works, others not - nothing to do with the PPA I'd guess
[18:35] <sergio-br2> i have 3 usb flash drive, 2 of them mount automatically in xubuntu, with ppa
[18:39] <sergio-br2> i realized that if a device is unmounted, it's not possible to eject it from right click in the desktop icon. It's possible only if you open Thunar, and right click in the right pane device icon.
[18:39] <sergio-br2> Is it a know issue? Or can i disconnect my device if it is unmounted?
[20:04] <pleia2> knome: you about?
[20:05] <knome> just came back
[20:05] <chris1983> hello, can someone help me?
[20:05] <chris1983> i need to figure how to install the nvidia driver on a lenovo w530
[20:05] <knome> chris1983, the support channel is #xubuntu 
[20:06] <chris1983> ok, thx
[20:06] <pleia2> knome: can we chat about the flyer a little?
[20:06] <knome> pleia2, yep
[20:06] <pleia2> ok cool, so afaict the google doc is still sort of our primary source
[20:07] <knome> liekly
[20:07] <knome> likely too
[20:07] <pleia2> and in your design, do we print on both sides?
[20:08] <knome> that's the idea, but i haven't had enough material to make a proof of concept from that yet
[20:08] <pleia2> ok, that's what I thought
[20:09] <pleia2> I'm going to go through this google doc now and make some changes there, maybe add some stuff too
[20:09] <knome> okay
[20:09] <knome> will you update the wiki with the final results?
[20:09] <pleia2> the wiki is way out of date :) so yeah, I'll do my best to sync them up somehow
[20:09] <knome> or, clearly state in the wikipage what is "approved", or the main body of work
[20:09]  * pleia2 nods
[20:10] <knome> i guess we could go from the gdoc to a pad
[20:11] <knome> if we don't think the wiki is suitable for working on it, that is
[20:11] <pleia2> can't put images in a pad :)
[20:12] <knome> can put links to image files
[20:12] <knome> the layout of the images is determined by the flow of the material anyway
[20:12] <pleia2> but then I can't just clicky click add them
[20:12] <knome> heh, sure, if that works better for you.. ;)
[21:08] <Unit193> bluesabre: Since you have a merge request on -meta, want to s/gcalctool/gnome-calculator/ ?
[23:23] <bluesabre> Unit193: gcalctool = gnome-calculator?
[23:58] <Unit193> bluesabre: Yes.