[00:50] <valorie> :-0
[00:50] <SonikkuAmerica> So anyway...
[00:50] <valorie> and ahoneybun IS here now
[00:50] <valorie> so that's perfect
[00:51] <valorie> so lubuntu and ubuntugnome docs -- do you have a link?
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Actually, my proposal, while similar, is somewhat different...
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Ali/amjjawad created a one-page landing for all things Lubuntu when he was still there (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LubuntuLinks), and when he moved to Ubuntu GNOME, he did a similar page on the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage). I was wondering if there would be usefulness in shuffling the idea over to the Kubuntu wiki?
[00:53] <valorie> that looks quite excellent
[00:53] <valorie> you may not have heard that we've moved the Kubuntu Docs to the KDE wiki
[00:53] <SonikkuAmerica> (Or if there would be a way of, say, optimizing the wiki or whatnot to include easier access to information patterned after that...)
[00:53] <valorie> but certainly we still use the ubuntu wiki system
[00:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Nope, didn't hear that...
[00:54] <valorie> mediawiki is so much easier to work with
[00:54] <SonikkuAmerica> (That's actually not a bad idea at all, though...)
[00:54] <valorie> and translator tool is possible to use
[00:54] <valorie> but still, the wiki is useful
[00:54] <valorie> just not for docs
[00:55] <valorie> sorry, I just realized it's time to make dinner
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[00:55] <valorie> thanks very much for the links!
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll be around for a while... just pitching the idea
[00:55] <valorie> cool
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, go fix and eat dinner and let's talk more
[00:55] <valorie> feel free to make a start on such a page and solicit links for it
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> On the wiki?
[00:55] <valorie> yes
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> What should I book as the link title?
[00:56] <valorie> KubuntuLinks sounds good to me, what do you think?
[00:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Can do! :)
[00:56] <valorie> great!
[00:56] <valorie> ttyl
[06:26] <ahoneybun> seems I missed things
[06:54] <ahoneybun_> ping valorie 
[07:02] <ahoneybun_> darn netflix adding all of Dexter
[07:12] <valorie> too late!
[07:30] <ahoneybun> hello?
[07:32] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[07:32] <valorie> hi
[07:32] <valorie> 'sup?
[07:34] <ahoneybun> what is this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LubuntuLinks
[07:34] <ahoneybun> ?
[07:36] <valorie> SonikkuAmerica found this and an ubuntu gnome page which is similar, and wondered if such a page might be useful to us
[07:37] <valorie> I explained how our docs and other stuff is organized, so he is going to find and list links like that for us
[07:37] <valorie> and maybe find some gems in our old wiki
[07:37] <valorie> and maybe some junk that we can delete
[07:37] <ahoneybun> nice
[07:38] <valorie> yes, he has a week before college starts, and wants to make himself useful
[07:38] <valorie> cleaning our wiki sounds ideal
[07:43] <ahoneybun> yea I start back on the 7th
[07:50] <ahoneybun> so how is the house valorie?
[07:55] <valorie> I can see the dirt under my house
[07:56] <valorie> hopefully Tuesday they will be done under there, and build a floor again
[07:56] <valorie> I hope then progress will start!
[07:56] <valorie> building instead of tearing down
[08:02] <ahoneybun> yea
[11:04] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:24] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:45] <unicodesnow> hi :)
[16:57] <tester56> i have written a script that automatically installs packages for me on trusty ... however apt complains about unmet dependencies for different packages such as "python-pycurl-dbg" 
[16:57] <tester56> when I try "sudo apt-get install python-pycurl-dbg" it complains " Depends: python-pycurl (= 7.19.0-5ubuntu8) but 7.19.0-5ubuntu9 is to be installed"
[16:58] <tester56> where should I report such packaging errors?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> tester56, suggest you also alias a dist-upgrade in your script 
[17:00] <tester56> BluesKaj: i am on newest daily, no external sources configured ... so what would be the point?
[17:02] <tester56> if you are on latest trusty try "sudo apt-get install python-pycurl-dbg" and you will see what I mean ;-)
[17:04] <tester56> may script processes a list of options to apt-get install and if one of the 100 packages passed to apt-get has unmet dependencies, the whole command will fail ... does one know a way to make apt-get exclude packages with unmet dependencies?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> tester56, I'll take your word for it 
[17:07] <Riddell> cor frameworks to be packaged http://download.kde.org/unstable/frameworks/4.95.0/
[17:08] <Riddell> "Steve Stalcup (vorian) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2015-01-11" yay v_ still loves us, feel free to get back into helping here v_ :)
[17:11] <Riddell> tester56: apt-cache policy python-pycurl and apt-cache policy python-pycurl-dbg  will tell you what versions are available
[17:15] <tester56> Riddell: but do you agree its an packaging error?
[17:17] <tester56> as I have never had an gtk-application crashing on kubuntu (maybe because I don't use much): what crash handler will show up on kubuntu for gtk applications?
[17:32] <Riddell> tester56: apport should
[17:32] <Riddell> although that might be disabled for releases
[17:32] <Riddell> so it might just disappear without notice
[17:33] <tester56> how to enable apport for all non-kde applications?
[17:45] <Riddell> dunno, this might say https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How_to_enable_apport
[17:59] <tester56_> /etc/default/apport is set enabled in trusty daily, so it should show up I suppose :-)
[19:20] <Quintasan> KDE Frameworks 5 TP 1 on 7th January ;_;
[20:22] <tester56> do you also get the following error when configuring a google account in kmail: "Resource IMAP E-Mail Server is broken. This resource is now offline"?
[20:22] <tester56> but despite the error it works 
[20:43] <jalcine> Quintasan: O_O
[20:43] <Quintasan> jalcine: What?
[20:43] <jalcine> the TP!
[20:43] <jalcine> a bit excited
[20:43] <Quintasan> ah
[20:43] <jalcine> I had a few ideas for apps
[20:44] <jalcine> but I held off until this state
[20:44] <jalcine> might even wait a bit more
[20:44] <Quintasan> Well, it's a technical preview so I'm not sure how end-users...
[20:44] <Quintasan> wait
[20:44] <Quintasan> nvm
[20:44] <jalcine> :P
[20:44] <Quintasan> I think we will have packages
[20:44] <jalcine> s/packages/late Christmas presents/g
[20:44] <kubotu> jalcine: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[20:44] <jalcine> oi
[20:44] <Quintasan> Yes.
[20:45] <Quintasan> That might be the case.
[21:44] <shadeslayer> jalcine: KF5 tp doesn't mean you'll have a usable desktop :)
[21:44] <shadeslayer> no Plasma 2 release yet
[21:48] <jalcine> shadeslayer: d'oh
[21:48] <jalcine> just wanted some libs to build against
[21:48] <shadeslayer> use neon5
[21:48]  * shadeslayer thinks flash is doing evil stuff
[21:49] <shadeslayer> it couldn't play videos since / is full
[21:51] <jalcine> flash = evil
[21:51] <jalcine> but not Wally West, he's a good guy
[21:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw does a project that does a release of their source but their development isn't done on a public repo count as a foss project?
[21:53] <shadeslayer> and does it meet criteria to be packaged in universe>
[21:53] <apachelogger> it's free software
[21:53] <apachelogger> what if I don't do version control but write gpl software, doesn't it get to be free software then? :P
[21:53] <shadeslayer> this thing doesn't have a proper license :(
[21:54] <apachelogger> not free software then
[21:54] <apachelogger> whatever you mean by proper licenses :P
[21:54] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.kde.org/paf9z42rw
[21:55] <shadeslayer> ^^ no proper license
[21:55] <apachelogger> not free software
[21:55] <shadeslayer> ack
[21:56] <apachelogger> intelectual property lies with the copyright holder and the copyright holder did not extend any rights, so no one has rights to do anything with it
[21:56] <apachelogger> kinda silly to put source out like that xD
[21:57] <shadeslayer> I see
[21:57] <apachelogger> although maybe you could then sue someone and you'd have evidence that you had the code first (since you have released it you made it public knowledge that you have this magic)
[21:57] <apachelogger> not sure whether that would stand up in a court of law though
[21:59]  * yofel starts with 4.11.5 for saucy
[22:00] <shadeslayer> sounds like fun
[22:02] <yofel> shouldn't be too much work, no git splits or stuff like that this time :)
[22:03] <jalcine> .97 <3
[22:13] <valorie> weeeee, thanks yofel