[00:00] <ochosi> ok, so the short answer is it's impossible right now
[00:00] <wgrant> Right
[00:00] <ochosi> at least until bug 402814 is resolved
[00:01] <ochosi> thanks for the heads up, wgrant !
[01:32] <DalekSec> Now that it is 2014, 1024bit keys are not only deprecated, but also "disallowed".  Given that information, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1240681 still exists, likely should have been fixed a while ago too. :/  Can this be set to critical now?
[02:45] <Fudge> hi, do you need to be the maintainer of a ppa to create new archives? ~vinux, wanting to create trusty archives
[02:47] <TheLordOfTime> Fudge, "archives"?  do you mean to upload new packages to a specific release within that PPA (i.e. a package for trusty)
[02:47] <TheLordOfTime> Fudge, also, I think the team there is doing something wrong... :/
[02:48] <Fudge> hi TheLordOfTime, no to create a new archive as its called precise precise-proposed and precise-updates
[02:48] <TheLordOfTime> Fudge, for the PPA, you need to be a member of the team that owns it, I think.  I'm not 100% certain of that but pretty certain that's the case
[02:48] <TheLordOfTime> um...
[02:48] <TheLordOfTime> so you're trying to replicate what ubuntu's repos are doing...
[02:48] <TheLordOfTime> ... with PPAs.
[02:48] <Fudge> I am, fudge333 Rob Whyte
[02:48] <Fudge> yeah basically mate
[02:49] <Fudge> easier to keep track of
[02:49] <TheLordOfTime> Fudge, i'm not questioning that team's screwed up method, but ultimately you can't do anything
[02:49] <TheLordOfTime> a group administrator has to create the PPA
[02:49] <TheLordOfTime> or the owner of the group
[02:49] <TheLordOfTime> (at least, AIUI the system)
[02:49] <TheLordOfTime> once they make the PPA, I think anyone in the team can upload to it, but I'm not super well versed in the PPA permissions structure, I do know the group's administrators need to create the PPAs.
[02:50] <Fudge> not sure why i am not an admin really, must have to get the owner to make me one maybe, Bill Cox was the creator of our group on launchpad but we transfered it to themuso last year, but he is away today
[02:50] <Fudge> yeah members can upload
[02:50] <TheLordOfTime> wait, i do know the answer to this, members can upload, but admins have to create
[02:50]  * TheLordOfTime manages a couple teams xD
[02:50] <TheLordOfTime> speaking of PPAs, I have failed builds o.O
[02:50]  * TheLordOfTime goes to check
[02:50] <Fudge> I hate those!!
[02:51] <TheLordOfTime> Fudge, usually it's because i omitted a ; or something xD
[02:51] <Fudge> I had huge issues backporting glibglib-2
[02:51] <Fudge> lucky you TheLordOfTime , I am very noob and usually spend days that i dont really have getting small tasks achieved
[02:52] <Fudge> our project has difficulty atracting devs who can spend an hour or so a week helping out
[02:52] <Fudge> everyone is too busy and the users of our software usually it is to much of a learning curve
[02:55] <TheLordOfTime> Fudge, we can talk elsewhere about the evils of packaging and dev work, if you want, but not here.
[02:55] <TheLordOfTime> i do have to go prep some debdiffs though, so i might not have the chance
[02:55] <Fudge> ill pm u quick
[02:56] <Fudge> thanx TheLordOfTime
[02:59] <DalekSec> TheLordOfTime: How about forgetting to change it from 'unstable' to 'saucy|trusty'?  I used to do that a lot. :P
[03:00] <TheLordOfTime> DalekSec, same thing, discussion on the evils can take place elsewhere.  My issue is usually the dependencies in older releases :/
[05:16] <codygarver> Hey, I'm getting the error "can't build with source format '3.0 (native)'" but there's nothing suspicious about my recipe header that I can see: "# bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version {debversion}+elementary{revno:elementary-patch}"
[05:19] <DalekSec> codygarver: They're forcing 3.0 (native)  now on recipe builds.
[05:21] <codygarver> DalekSec, I've gotten that error before and resolved it by removing hyphens (like "-0") from the recipe, this is the only one that's given me trouble even though it's nearly identical to successful ones
[05:21] <codygarver> like this works https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+recipe/ubiquity-trusty-daily but this does not https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+recipe/grub2-trusty-daily
[05:23] <wgrant> DalekSec, codygarver: bzr-builder has always forced 3.0 (native) if the package specifies 3.0 (quilt) but there is no orig tarball
[05:23] <wgrant> trusty's dpkg now refuses to build a native package with a non-native version
[05:24] <wgrant> You need to either use a native version (one without any hyphens), or give the branch enough information for bzr-builder to construct an orig.tar.*, eg. using bzr import-upstream.
[05:24] <codygarver> I've been here before about that issue and you guys helped me
[05:25] <DalekSec> wgrant: Interesting.  That's the one I hit.  Did you see my first comment linking to a bug report?
[05:25] <codygarver> wgrant, can you explain the difference in success on the two recipes I linked?
[05:26] <wgrant> codygarver: Both recipes use {debversion}, so they append something to the latest version specified in debian/changelog
[05:27] <wgrant> ubiquity is a native package, so it has a native version
[05:27] <wgrant> grub2 is non-native to it has a non-native version
[05:27] <wgrant> DalekSec: That should be fixed with some upgrades we're doing this month.
[05:27] <DalekSec> wgrant: Fantastic!  Thank you.
[05:27] <codygarver> wgrant, thanks a lot
[05:28] <DalekSec> Mind saying 2048 or 4096?
[05:28] <wgrant> It'll be 4096.
[05:29] <DalekSec> Great.
[08:48] <cjwatson> Fudge,TheLordOfTime: The permissions discussion I see in scrollback wasn't really accurate.  There isn't a separate operation of "creating archives" for a new series; you just upload (or copy) and that happens automatically.
[08:49] <cjwatson> Fudge: Oh, wait, I've just seen that you actually have different PPAs for different pockets.  Wow.  Weird and very unLPish.  TheLordOfTime is correct then ...
[08:51] <cjwatson> Creating a PPA is restricted to the owner, indeed
[08:58] <Fudge> it is weird yes, I didnt set it up initially and the trend has just stuck unfortunately
[23:19] <NothingMuchHereT> Hi, I'm  having difficulties with understanding my launchpad accounts
[23:19] <NothingMuchHereT> Or account
[23:19] <NothingMuchHereT> I'm trying to change my login email address but it doesn't work, I still have to login through the old email
[23:28] <hloeung> NothingMuchHereT: you'll also need to add it to your SSO account
[23:29] <hloeung> NothingMuchHereT: login.launchpad.net or login.ubuntu.com