[00:06] Hello all [01:16] twisted has a class called "InMemoryUsernamePasswordDatabaseDontUse" [01:16] i find this very amusing [01:20] how many uses of it are there? [01:32] good question [01:32] so i'm writing a silly little app with twisted and pygame [01:33] the mechanics of letting people join a chatroom are... interesting [01:33] for example, why shouldn't multiple users have exactly the same name? [01:38] depends how they're identified for sending out the messages i suppose [01:39] weirdly, if you go totally minimal there are also no restrictions on what you can allow [01:41] in terms of? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [01:46] well supposing you don't use anything the client sends to hash the connections [01:46] now anyone can set any name they want [01:47] everyone can have the same name if they want to [02:12] There is no point of having the same name [it will get confusing :)] [02:30] confusing is good [02:30] (as long as i am not the one who is confused) [02:31] Maybe :D [02:31] Its like say mike when there is 100 mikes [02:32] It gets award :) [02:32] ah but i'm making a chat room where everyone has a unique avatar [02:32] so you can go "hey mike with pink hair" [02:32] problem solved? [02:33] Kk zlol [02:33] U have to let me try the beta [02:34] in fact i probably won't even display names [02:34] Woe !? [02:34] I mean wow !? [02:35] Well anyway good night and don't let those server hackers bite === LjL^ is now known as LjL [10:49] morning everyone. [10:52] \o brobostigon [10:52] morning MartijnVdS === nsh_ is now known as nsh [11:11] * MartijnVdS is doing chef stuffs again [11:13] yummy, [11:13] brobostigon: http://www.getchef.com/ [11:15] looks interesting. [11:19] brobostigon: makes it very easy to set up a new server when an old one dies -- all you need is a basic install and a run of "chef" [11:19] brobostigon: because all configuration files, list of packages to install, etc. are kept there [11:20] definatly useful. [11:20] Good morning peeps :) [11:20] morning bigcalm [11:20] also allows you to clone machines easily (like adding + configuring more webservers when load goes up) [11:21] much flexible! [11:21] :) [11:22] (you define "recipes", which you can further configure using "roles", and you assign machines ("nodes") one or more roles [11:24] so a recipe would be something like apache setup, then a role would be something like lamp, combining several recipes together? [11:24] brobostigon: yes [11:25] cool. [11:28] Anybody know of a voice memo app for Android that will automatically email once recording has finished? [11:28] bigcalm: I use Google Keep, it doesn't email, but stores it in Google Drive [11:28] Humm, that might be an option at a push [11:29] Thanks [11:29] bigcalm: automatic sharing is a pain on android, because "sharing" triggers the UI usually, to select an app to share with [11:29] so the app would have to speak SMTP itself [11:30] That's arse [11:31] *grumble* [11:31] bigcalm: but there might be ways around that, because G+ has a special dialog too [11:32] bigcalm: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tokasiki.android.voicerecorder claims "Send data as attached file via gmail" [11:32] I need to be able to record thought just before I fall asleep at night. And then those thoughts to be emailed to me ready for digestion the next morning in my office [11:33] MartijnVdS: oh, that looks to be good [11:33] bigcalm: if you set Google Keep as the default page in your web browser at work, that should work ;) [11:33] :P [11:40] sounds interesting 0=- thoughts before you go to sleep eh..what do you do before sleep [11:41] mapps: he's trying to conceal that he's actually a robot that doesn't need sleep [11:41] aha:D [11:44] Hehe [11:45] I think about work :( [11:45] bigcalm: is it that much fun? :) [11:48] I don't want to be thinking about work my whole waking life [11:49] why do u then [11:49] what is your job? not a sysamdin or something and ou kie there talking commands? [11:49] lol [11:51] Humf, too many steps required to send an email from this app. Might try Google Keep [11:52] mapps: I'm a web dev [11:52] mapps: "*zzz* *mumble* rm -rf *mumble* *zzzz*", next morning he wakes up to an empty server ;) [11:52] lol [11:52] =] [11:58] Haha, it attempts to do voice to text: "suzi really into she speak this pos it doesn't like it speak slowly" [11:59] * bigcalm goes to make bacon sandwiches [11:59] what did you actually say? [11:59] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sumvision-Cyclone-Micro-Media-Player/dp/B0030DL3SC [11:59] love those [11:59] so small and play everything [12:07] Hello [12:15] bigcalm: I'm trying frantically to remember what I've been doing for the past two months, timesheets are due on Tuesday... [12:15] ngh. [12:24] Myrtti: I find that's what the 'sent' folder is for [12:25] yeah, combing through my emails isn't that much fun either [12:28] my browser history is quite useful for that, depends on what you do, though [12:30] that would be useful, if I hadn't been bouncing from one browser to another... [12:30] onnghh === LjL^ is now known as LjL [12:53] it's done: http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/swosh/swosh-0.2.tar.gz [12:53] the most confusing chat room ever === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === JamesTait is now known as Guest30408 [13:49] directhex: is there any point in me downloading and seeding beta1? [13:49] bigcalm, no. i'm hoping to make a release today [13:49] if i can defeat pulse [13:49] I did wonder :) [13:49] * penguin42 hands directhex a larger hammer [13:50] You need to be more vocal about your releases. I only seeded 1.0beta1alpa1 to 4.53 and completely missed beta1 [13:52] Oh well, seeding anyway. Just for fun :) (only took 3 mins to fetch) [14:00] i'm at 58.44 === LjL^ is now known as LjL [14:21] ok, if this works, i'm tagging the release & starting on documentation [14:46] just got a friends old and new laptop in to migrate between [14:46] https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4l3zda0j4296me/IMG_20140105_144506.jpg [14:46] Latvian keyboards O_O [14:49] not that weird, although I can't quite see what's going on with the \| [14:49] hehe [14:49] daftykins: I mean at least all the numbers and letters are in the right place - I mean look at French; http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Backslash_On_French_Keyboard.jpg [14:50] that's just insane [14:50] :) [14:50] that used to throw me all the time when I taught classes in belgium [14:50] popey: Set the keymap back to UK/US and close your eyes? [14:51] Or just don't look at the keyboard :P [14:51] i would if the pc admins let me ☹ [14:51] haha slip into blind pianist mode [14:51] omg, I hadn't realised they'd moved the M as well [14:51] *nod* [14:52] wth possessed them to move the M? [14:52] working on French housemates ones back in Uni always made me laugh when first seeing command prompt asked for confirmation with "O/N?" [14:53] penguin42: huh? [14:53] it's where it's supposed to be [14:53] nooo! [14:53] zxcvbnm [14:54] isn't it like that in UK too? [14:54] No [14:54] Myrtti: No - *every* other keyboard layout has the M on the bottom row next to the N [14:54] Um, UK is as daftykins says [14:54] are you confusing the cyrillic subset with the Latin one? [14:54] because it looks like you are [14:54] Myrtti: I'm talking about the French layout link I sent [14:55] Myrtti: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Backslash_On_French_Keyboard.jpg [14:55] oh, that [14:55] azerty [14:55] ok, who can help me seed Ye Olde SteamOSe third release? [14:55] azerty, wx and m displaced [14:55] this one is 300M smaller, and fixes audio issues [14:55] Finnish keyboards have the non-Latin characters moved [14:55] but otherwise it's the same [14:56] next to z on the left is <>| key, next to m is ,; key [14:57] is m bottom or middle row? [14:57] and whateer comes with shift+numbers is also changed I suppose [14:57] daftykins: zxcvbnm,.- [14:57] directhex: i can't really do anything until there's an existing DHT network [14:58] magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d477fa46779600d162e49bc95de02cc2a34ad535&dn=yeoldesteamos-20131219-beta2.iso&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce [14:58] i'll work on getting my main CDN online [14:58] Myrtti: Yeh the weirdest thing on Finnish seems to be losing the ^ and shifting the &*() across [14:59] ^ is just moved [14:59] but that layout isn't THAT weird [14:59] Finnish, no. [15:00] ali1234, well it's showing up on the trackers now with me as sole seeder. not a fast way to do initial transfer, mind you [15:00] yeah.. i still can't access the trackers [15:00] oh yeah... grr [15:01] if you enable DHT, it will probably work, eventually [15:02] directhex: is there a new torrent? [15:02] bigcalm, yes [15:02] directhex: where would I find it? [15:02] he's working on that now [15:02] http://retro.apebox.org/yeoldesteamos-20131219-beta2.iso.torrent [15:02] Oh, okay [15:02] Ta [15:02] not many seeders yet, mind you [15:03] Not surprising :) [15:04] Shall I stop seeding beta1alpha1? [15:05] bigcalm, yeah, that's pretty much obsolete, as per the changelog on http://directhex.github.io/steamos-installer/ [15:08] are you after decent connections or anything you can get? [15:09] Every little helps [15:09] daftykins, for the initial rush (i.e. next few days) anything i can get. after then the whole bittorrent thing should take care of itself, really [15:09] I limit all of my torrent uploads to 150K/s though [15:09] cool, i'll fire it up [15:09] it helps to have a fat pipe early on, but the guy i got to help me last time is afk [15:09] at least it's smaller this time, so less to seed :D [15:10] OK. how can i record a video from vmware, where the resolution will change frequently? vmware 10 dropped the record feature [15:10] * daftykins joins the torrent [15:11] bigcalm: what's your upload, to cap at that? i used to cap at that when i had 2Mb [15:12] directhex: What happens if you run it full screen and try some whole screen recorders? [15:12] penguin42, i'll test that. might be my only choice [15:13] will tinker once windows finishes installing [15:13] daftykins: I'm on VirginMedia's 60/3 connection [15:13] ah-har [15:14] having 5 up now is soooo much nicer [15:14] i have 16 up, but torrents always seem slow for me :/ [15:14] slow on the download? [15:14] * popey en-torrents [15:14] or upload === em is now known as emma [15:14] upload [15:14] how odd [15:15] i'm hovering between 320 and 400KB/sec up atm, 400 being my self-imposed cap [15:15] * popey torrents on his vps, 100Mb/s up/down [15:15] 760 down :O [15:15] I've increased my upload to 200K/s [15:15] oh that's better, 2MB up [15:15] or is that 2Mb? [15:15] MB. i guess i'm maxed out then [15:15] wheeee [15:15] 2.5MB/s down [15:16] 1.7MB/s up [15:16] XD [15:16] and climbing [15:16] That's what you get for joining the party late :P [15:16] my VPS only has ~200GB/month so i can't do that (: [15:16] I can't remember what Bytemark limit me to, don't want to mess with it [15:16] that's my bigv one [15:17] seems to have topped out at 2.5MB/s each way [15:18] I get way more bandwidth than I can use on my vpos [15:18] -o [15:18] Hello [15:18] popey: is that a bitfolk one? [15:18] Projected / Contracted (GB) [15:18] In: 6.836 / 880.000 [15:18] Out: 51.884 / 440.000 [15:18] yes [15:18] that was last month [15:18] ooh that'd be nice [15:18] 13 mins remaining. Now 5 mins, 7 mins, 5, 4, [15:18] I need help with samba4 anc pdc [15:18] And pdc [15:19] I have it set up but my win xp pc cant connect to it [15:19] XP's dead in 3 months ;) [15:19] oh [15:19] I seem to be giving my whole bandwidth to the torrent by accident [15:19] It says invalid domain [15:19] * penguin42 hands daftykins the wooden stakes [15:20] penguin42: ty sir! *sharpens* [15:20] Also my mac cant connect to it ethier [15:20] What am i doing wornd [15:20] Worng [15:21] daftykins: If that doesn't work you could try mercury and holy water in through the CD slot [15:21] can't say i have experience involving domain controllers with samba setup, but i've done simple file shares hosted on Linux [15:21] k [15:21] http://tools.bitfolk.com/cacti/graph_2769.html [15:21] expect that to look different in a bit [15:22] arc__: what's your setup? Linux system sharing a folder to this mac and XP client? [15:22] directhex: done, seeding at 2MB/s [15:22] Ubuntu server as a pdc [15:22] :D [15:22] * daftykins thinks he's going to come second [15:22] i wanna record a screencast on installing dual-boot steamos, then i'll announce [15:22] zoiks, 4Mb/s [15:23] 5.. ⍨ [15:23] Finished [15:23] i my clients to logon and save there stuff in the server they have a h drive [15:23] I want [15:23] aww ok i came third [15:23] :D [15:23] the stats of your progress in my client lied ;) [15:23] hah [15:23] there we go, seeding @ 400KB/sec [15:24] What r u seeding ? [Dont say plants :)] [15:24] suppose I should rate limit this [15:24] arc__: directhex's steamOS version [15:24] Oh ok [15:24] wheee [15:24] Where can i download it from ? [15:24] arc__: i have never setup a server such as that then i'm afraid :( have you found any guides online or some-such? [15:25] http://retro.apebox.org/yeoldesteamos-20131219-beta2.iso.torrent [15:25] COOL WILL download [15:25] Don't forget to see! [15:25] seed! [15:25] penguin42's idea works, but kazam doesn't seem to record properly from my microphone :/ [15:25] :< [15:26] directhex: Does anything else record from your mic? [15:26] hrmm best get doing some house chores instead of working on these laptops! as fun as it is [15:27] directhex: vokoscreen is quite nice [15:27] [Rate 0.0/ 0.0 KB] [15:27] right, everyone's got it now ☻ [15:27] i think the baby just woke up /o\ [15:27] Nope, I'm still uploading [15:27] popey, not in saucy? [15:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697511/ [15:28] directhex: no, i got a deb from somewhere iirc [15:28] Installed: 1.8.2-1 [15:28] probably debian [15:29] Who is the ono.com user? [15:29] i finally managed to connect [15:30] ali1234: I see you @ 110K/s [15:30] * daftykins spots an ali1234 [15:30] Heh [15:30] do i show up as some dynamic .sure.com ? [15:30] I see only ip addresses [15:30] not hosts [15:31] Same here, manually translating them [15:31] OK it'll do. recording time. [15:31] and I see only 3 peers [15:31] i'm getting 1.3M/s [15:32] ah my client resolves for me [15:32] I am downloading now [15:33] 10M/s and it's complete [15:33] :O [15:33] Eta 4h [15:33] Going to be a long wait [15:33] whoever's @ demon.co.uk shows up as 0% complete 0o [15:34] that is also me [15:34] hehe nah you should speed up in a bit [15:34] i started a local client with dht to try to bootstrap the server [15:34] popey: What does scrub do? [15:34] Yay eta 42 mins [15:34] ali1234: ah, it seems to grab a couple of KB/sec every now and then [15:34] yeah i set it to max 5K/s download [15:34] since i don't actually want to download it, just get the peerlist onto DHT [15:34] penguin42: checks for inconsistencies [15:35] mm-hmm [15:35] nope, baby is awake. screencast cancelled [15:35] GRARGH [15:35] D: [15:35] the wee hexy spawn [15:35] Eta 19 mins from eta 4h [15:36] * popey wgets the iso down to his home server and seeds there [15:37] bloody children [15:37] ok, announce time [15:37] what are you guys downloading? [15:37] directhex's steamOS build [15:37] aha [15:38] popey: So basically fsck? [15:38] not really [15:38] it works online [15:38] ah [15:39] \o/ seeding at home too [15:40] there is a fsck utility too (contrary to popular opinion) :D [15:40] not that I've ever had to use it, because btrfs (IME) has recovered fine without itt [15:40] -t [15:40] right, to the shops [15:40] ttfn [15:40] so what is special about this ver of steam os [15:41] directhex's edition takes away a lot of daft limitations it has [15:41] doesnt need UEFI for example [15:41] like installing to LVM only [15:41] arc__, see list on http://directhex.github.io/steamos-installer/ [15:42] Ok thanks [15:45] It awesome should work perfectly on my old gaming rig [15:46] thanks for creating this [15:48] OK, announcement now public [15:50] where's that? [15:50] Twitter :) [15:50] hehe [15:51] twitter, reddit, steam forums [15:51] hah, close my eyes bopping to a tune, open them and the cat has materialised in front of my face on my desk [15:52] * bigcalm wants a kitty [15:53] i kinda adopted cat #3 from my parents already great pet collection [15:53] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gu9d8nzqcmr7o51/REflJuBE_z [15:54] she's settled in well :> [16:18] haha this Lenovo comes with a start menu replacement on Windows 8 [16:24] right, i figured out how to bounce bittorrent tracker udp traffic and now i can connect to the trackers :) [16:24] what's different about your setup that you needed to fiddle? [16:24] it's on hetzner [16:25] ah yes [16:30] Why do I never have AAA batteries when I need them? [16:30] hehe [16:30] Found 8 dead. Now on charge [16:30] *grumble* [16:31] new Lenovo cheaptop from amazon then, £260 delivered - 40GB of the 500GB drive wasted due to crazy manufacturer restore partitions [16:32] It saves them shipping restore media [16:32] *nod* [16:33] the lenovo one is actually quite good as it combines installation and backup into one system [16:33] has some bugs though [16:34] no doubt i'm going to nuke it with a clean 8.1 install shortly === G4MBY2 is now known as PaulW2U === PaulW2U is now known as Guest70302 === Guest70302 is now known as PaulW2U [17:34] Finally passed the ratio of 1 [17:37] bigcalm: hehe, i'm hitting 2.9 [17:38] hi [17:38] :P [17:38] 1.16 [17:38] Hi [17:46] lots of US based clients mooching it [17:46] a Spaniard earlier too [17:47] daftykins: Which Lenovo did you get? [17:48] DJones: not me personally, but this is the super cheap: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-G500s-15-6-inch-Laptop-Integrated/dp/B00FSBF7A4/ [17:48] not long ago i also setup a U330 Touch, which was a £580 ultrabook [17:50] Shame, I was hoping for an i7 with nvidia graphics and 1920x1080 graphics for the £260 :) [17:50] haha [17:51] Oh, and a touchscreen [17:51] how gimmicky :( [17:52] Somebody with verizon.net just went 100% [17:52] Maybe I should try out this thing, rather than just seed it [17:54] XD [17:54] bigcalm: that's dangerous talk [17:58] done 811.0 MB Rate: 176.3 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 4847.0 MB [ R: 5.98] [17:58] nearly 6 [18:02] :) === LjL is now known as LjL-Away [18:05] I'm having an extremely slow day [18:05] me too [18:05] what was the command to figure out the uuid of a harddrive again? [18:05] blkid [18:05] with sudo i believe [18:06] yeah I remembered that immediately after saying it... [18:06] hate it when that happens :) [18:07] so when there's a harddrive I don't want to be automounted, can I do like "UUID=xxxx-xxxx none vfat noauto 0 0"? [18:11] Something like that, yes [18:12] Though, if the drive isn't in fstab, it shouldn't be auto mounted anyway [18:12] external harddrive [18:13] Oh, they have a habit of auto mounting, yes :) [18:13] (I got an external 1TB harddrive from work for doing backups, it has a small partition with their Mac and Windows software on it which I'm not interested in but don't really want to nuke from the harddrive either) [18:14] Aha === ali12341 is now known as ali1234 === PretentiousWanke is now known as Default === Default is now known as Guest50964 === gordonjc1 is now known as gordonjcp === pup_or_die is now known as 77CAAYWD7 === io is now known as IdleOne === G4MBY2 is now known as PaulW2U [21:02] vokoscreen AV sync is not so good :/ [21:21] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/vokoscreen/BUhQ3E7SygA [21:21] garbage [22:22] Think it's hard installing Ye Olde SteamOSe dual boot? A VIDEO FOR YOU! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiidu3jHWLQ&feature=youtu.be === LjL^ is now known as LjL [22:29] wow, LjL is still around === directhe` is now known as directhex [22:45] done 811.0 MB Rate: 241.8 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 14219.8 MB [ R: 17.53] [22:45] whee [22:49] popey, popular download? [22:49] i only have a 4.3 ratio here [22:53] yeah, seems popular [22:55] also served ~2.0 from my home rate-limited box === LjL is now known as LjL-Away [22:57] * popey embeddens [23:56] does anyone know if there's a way in conky to goto a voffset?