[00:00] <Gallomimia> change your address to dhcp and the field is called "dhcp client id" fill it in there
[00:00] <Hydr0p0nX> is there a supported method of getting kernel 3.12 on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[00:00] <Gallomimia> Hydr0p0nX: nope. download the .deb files from kernel.ubuntu.org
[00:00] <BbbKUE> Gallomimia so I need to penale dhcp on router
[00:01] <BbbKUE> *enable
[00:01] <Burrito> Hydr0p0nX, I compiled 3.12 myself in order to investigate/fix a WiFi bug... I use Linux Mint 13, and it worked. It's the equivalent of trying it on Ubuntu 12.04, I guess. Your package manager might cry a little, and your graphics drivers might need to be reinstalled (I had to).
[00:01] <Gallomimia> if your dhcp is disabled, how is there any info being passed about hostnames/dhcp client id's?
[00:01] <killerbart10> can someone help me, i get the initramfs/busybox error when booting ubuntu 12.03
[00:01] <Gallomimia> Hydr0p0nX, Burrito: i simply installed the .deb packages with dpkg -i
[00:02] <killerbart10>  
[00:02] <Hydr0p0nX> i've got 3.12 installed, but the nvidia driver complains about it
[00:02] <Burrito> Gallomimia, Ah, yes. That will work too. I had to compile in order to get special config options.
[00:02] <killerbart10> can someone help me, i get the initramfs/busybox error when booting ubuntu 12.03
[00:02] <Hydr0p0nX> so i'm stuck with nouveau or compile from source
[00:02] <Burrito> once is enough, kill_u
[00:02] <Burrito> killerbart10, *
[00:02] <Gallomimia> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/ (for 13.10)
[00:02] <Gallomimia> oops. you wanted 12.04?
[00:02] <killerbart10> yes
[00:03] <BbbKUE> Gallomimia can you please explain metter?
[00:03] <Hydr0p0nX> Gallomimia, that's the kernel i'm using now
[00:03] <Hydr0p0nX> and it's fixed my audio out issue
[00:03] <killerbart10> anyone?
[00:03] <Gallomimia> actually no. but if you have dhcp disabled, there's no medium for passing the hostname or client ID to the router
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> Hydr0p0nX: did you ibstall the headers ?
[00:04] <Hydr0p0nX> yes
[00:04] <hot2trot> how can I remove everything in a directory, but not certain things in that directory usinga  wildcard?  So, how could I remove everything in a directory besides things ending in .avi?
[00:04] <Gallomimia> all three packages. i missed one and it went bananas on me
[00:04] <Burrito> Hydr0p0nX, I also had problems. I had to uninstall everything nvidia and jockey related, and then reinstall the appropriate driver. I followed this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66339/how-do-i-solve-this-nvidia-driver-download-error
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> Hydr0p0nX: what error are you getting?
[00:04] <Gallomimia> hot2trot: find command is your answer
[00:04] <rww> hot2trot: find . \! -iname '*.avi'        <--- if that works, add -delete on the end
[00:04] <killerbart10> ?
[00:04] <Hydr0p0nX> The dkms.conf for this module includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which
[00:04] <Hydr0p0nX> does not match this kernel/arch
[00:05] <Hydr0p0nX> oops
[00:05] <Burrito> Gallomimia, Is there no DNS-related method for hostnames? I regularly use DNS names on my network, and some of the clients I use it with do not use DHCP.
[00:05] <Gallomimia> rww has it. use it without -delete as a test to make sure
[00:05] <BARbQ> Gallomimia Here I am
[00:05] <Gallomimia> Burrito: that's a configuration nightmare i think... what did you do?
[00:05] <Burrito> Gallomimia, It just works.
[00:05] <killerbart10> burrito?
[00:05] <Gallomimia> what kinda router?
[00:05] <hot2trot> rww: the only problem is, i'm actually putting it into a script... and it's not for removing files, i was just using that example to clarify my question and make a template I could follow
[00:06] <Burrito> killerbart10, yes?
[00:06] <killerbart10> can someone help me, i get the initramfs/busybox error when booting ubuntu 12.03
[00:06] <rww> hot2trot: then perhaps you should ask your actual question :P
[00:06] <hot2trot> rww: I actually want mplayer to play all the videos in a directory EXCEPT certain ones...
[00:06] <Burrito> Gallomimia,  Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH2
[00:06] <Gallomimia> hot2trot: find is highly scriptable. the man page will tell you all about it
[00:06] <Burrito> killerbart10, once is enough.
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> Hydr0p0nX: have you tried commenting out the BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive?
[00:06] <Gallomimia> Burrito: with dhcp on?
[00:06] <rww> hot2trot: if you stick all the file names one after the other on mplayer's command line, will it work?
[00:06] <rww> hot2trot: like, theoretically
[00:06] <Gallomimia> it does
[00:06] <hot2trot> rww: well... yes
[00:07] <Gallomimia> i just found that out last night
[00:07] <killerbart10> where can i find help on boot failure
[00:07] <rww> hot2trot: find . \! -iname '*.avi' -print0 | xargs mplayer
[00:07] <Gallomimia> !nick BARbQ
[00:07] <Burrito> Gallomimia, The router has DHCP on, but not all of the clients use it. I told some clients to use static IPs. Maybe I have the vocabulary wrong? Maybe they still use DHCP to get their static IPs?
[00:07] <rww> erm
[00:07] <rww> hot2trot: find . \! -iname '*.avi' -print0 | xargs -0 mplayer
[00:07] <Gallomimia> !nick > BARbQ
[00:07] <Burrito> killerbart10, More details on the error might help.
[00:07] <Gallomimia> bah. just... tell everyone
[00:07] <Gallomimia> !nick
[00:08] <Hydr0p0nX> i don't see a build_exclusin in the dkms.conf,
[00:08] <hot2trot> rww: thank you good sir!
[00:08] <rww> hot2trot: no problem :)
[00:09] <BARbQ> Gallomimia I just tried to connected via dhcp and see no hostname. Only IP
[00:09] <killerbart10> im bootin ubuntu 12.3 from sd card and i get a busbox error say that my partition isnt mounted
[00:09] <Burrito> killerbart10, SD card? Maybe the SD card is not partitioned correctly? In any case, this tool can be used to solve most common booting issues: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:10] <Burrito> killerbart10, has this issue occurred just out of the blue? Could you boot from it before? Or did it start occurring after an update?
[00:10] <knightshade> hi
[00:10] <BARbQ> bye!
[00:10] <Gallomimia> BARbQ: the hostname of another computer is determined through lookup services. this consists of looking at nameservers and through the host file. each machine needs access to a list of hosts you want determined. the router on the network sometimes doubles as a nameserver, or you can configure it all yourself.
[00:10] <Gallomimia> ......
[00:10] <Burrito> >_<
[00:11] <Gallomimia> next time try google if you're so impatient :(
[00:11] <Burrito> Gallomimia, I think that's what mine does. It has DNSMasq installed.
[00:11] <Burrito> So.. It can do some nameserver things I guess
[00:11] <Gallomimia> and it probably pairs it up with the dhcp-client-id's that each machine gives when it requests an ip
[00:11] <Burrito> I see
[00:11] <killerbart10> i booted fine befor then i uninstalled it because itwouldnt connect the internet then i tried installing it and thats when i get the error
[00:12] <Gallomimia> and then anything that has .com or .net at the end, it requests the details from your isp's nameservers and passes that along
[00:12] <Gallomimia> like a normal dns
[00:13] <Gallomimia> possible to configure a linux machine to run one... not as hard as you think, but not as easy as you'd like
[00:13] <Burrito> killerbart10, Use GParted to completely format the SD card, removing all partitions and flags, then make one bug EXT2 or EXT3 partition, and try installing it again. (If you haven't already tried that).
[00:13] <Burrito> killerbart10, what did you use to install the system onto the SD card?
[00:13] <killerbart10> im not curruntly using ubuntu to make my sd bootable
[00:14] <killerbart10> i used the terminal dd command
[00:14] <Burrito> Ah..
[00:14] <Burrito> I've never done that before.
[00:14] <PublicStaticVoid> anyone know the package to support aac playback?
[00:14] <PublicStaticVoid> wasnt in ubuntu-restricted-extras or -extras
[00:14] <PublicStaticVoid> er -adons
[00:14] <PublicStaticVoid> addons
[00:14] <FloodBot1> PublicStaticVoid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15]  * Burrito pats FloodBot1 on the head "So sensitive..."
[00:15] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah that wasn't a flood
[00:17] <Burrito> PublicStaticVoid, libfaac0 and libfaad2 look relevant.
[00:17] <PublicStaticVoid> Burrito: Thanks. Can you tell me how you searched that, for future reference?
[00:18] <Burrito> I have it installed - I searched Synaptic for ".aac" and then sorted by what I have installed.
[00:18] <PublicStaticVoid> oh
[00:18] <Burrito> Synaptic found it in precise/multiverse
[00:18] <PublicStaticVoid> I guess apt-cache search isnt very powerful just searches package names
[00:18] <Gallomimia> killerbart10: what type of image file are you working with? it's likely you used dd of=/dev/thepartition and not the root device file. try it again
[00:19] <PublicStaticVoid> How do I use synaptic to search packages?
[00:19] <Gallomimia> dpkg --get-selections is more powerful
[00:19] <PublicStaticVoid> cool
[00:19] <Gallomimia> or are you looking for something to install?
[00:20] <Gallomimia> what i listed shows your installed packages
[00:20] <Burrito> PublicStaticVoid, I'm on Mint. I ran "synaptic-pkexec", entered my password, and then used the search UI (there's a small search box at the top of the window). If you want an ncurses or text interface, I think Aptitude might be able to help you.
[00:20] <killerbart10> yes, i used the ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso file with dd
[00:20] <PublicStaticVoid> looking for a better way to search the repos for packages then just apt-cache search maybe a command that searches the descriptions as well?
[00:20] <Gallomimia> can you list the full command you used to dd it on there killerbart10 ?
[00:21] <killerbart10> ok
[00:21] <PublicStaticVoid> Burrito: Yea I like to just use commands if possible for speed
[00:21] <PublicStaticVoid> not a big UI person
[00:21] <Gallomimia> finding the right /dev for your of= thing is tough :/
[00:21] <Burrito> :P
[00:21] <killerbart10> dd if=/home/user/Desktop/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb1
[00:21] <Gallomimia> knock the 1 off the end and try that
[00:21] <PublicStaticVoid> er GUI I should say
[00:21] <killerbart10> ok
[00:21] <Gallomimia> again, be super careful with dd
[00:22] <PublicStaticVoid> yeah dd needs a partition I am prety sure
[00:22] <Gallomimia> sdb means the second drive attached
[00:22] <ClaireMc> Hi. I'm new to Ubuntu. How do I access a list of all the installed applications rather than just the icons in the side bar?
[00:22] <PublicStaticVoid> dd = data destroyer
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: apt-cache search searches the description aswell
[00:22] <Burrito> XD
[00:22] <Gallomimia> not to make bootable drives. it needs the full disk
[00:22] <Gallomimia> since it includes an mbr and so on
[00:22] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: huh, well apt-cache search aac returned nothing :(
[00:22] <Burrito> yeah, remember that ISOs are images of entire disks, meant to be booted as they are.
[00:22] <PublicStaticVoid> No it returned to much sorry.
[00:23] <Gallomimia> grep it perhaps? or put it thru less and read it all
[00:23] <PublicStaticVoid> haha ok
[00:23] <Burrito> apt-cache search aac | grep aac? :P
[00:23] <Gallomimia> pipe it to a file and put it on your tablet to read during number 2?
[00:24] <Gallomimia> no grep it for something useful.
[00:24] <Gallomimia> "something useful" will be probably what you think of after reading the first few pages of results
[00:24] <Burrito> oh, doing "| grep aac" actually helps
[00:24] <PublicStaticVoid> haha
[00:24] <Gallomimia> heh. can't see why, the results should all have aac in it?
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> I know right
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> SO I woulnt know what to grep
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> maybe codec
[00:25] <Gallomimia> maybe support
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah
[00:25] <Gallomimia> maybe audio
[00:25] <Gallomimia> music
[00:25] <Gallomimia> that's why i suggest less, skim the results a few pages, and grep it for a few things.
[00:25] <Burrito> http://pastebin.com/SiKpX87t
[00:26] <killerbart10> i also cant connect to the internet in ubuntu, it asks me to put the WEP key in but when i do it doesnt let me press connect?
[00:26] <Gallomimia> i also suggest the full results into a text file so you can do multiple operations on it without having to poll the apt-cache 5 or 10 times?
[00:26] <Gallomimia> killerbart10: your key isn't long enough
[00:26] <Gallomimia> WEP minimum length is 8 right?
[00:27] <Burrito> Try WICD maybe?
[00:27] <killerbart10> but iit works on my other computers
[00:27] <PublicStaticVoid> killerbart10: sounds like it isnt getting enough characters or not getting expected input
[00:27] <killerbart10> what should i do?
[00:27] <Burrito> Maybe NetworkManager is expecting a full Hex "key", and not a passphrase.
[00:27] <PublicStaticVoid> NetworkManager sucks so bad
[00:27] <gordonjcp> wasn't there a networkmanager plugin for WEP, that didn't bother asking for a WEP key but just cracked it?
[00:27] <PublicStaticVoid> Well i did when I used it on Arch
[00:28] <Burrito> I think you should try WICD, killerbart10. You would need to get it through a wired network connection or through a USB stick.
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> Why on earth is your router still using WEP btw?Might as well still be open
[00:28] <Burrito> yeah, I also think you should start using WPA2, killerbart10 :P
[00:28] <Gallomimia> agreed
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> Cause WEP is cracked as easily as an android app now a days
[00:28] <picca> gordonjcp: that doesn't sound ethical at all, but wouldn't surprise me
[00:29] <killerbart10> how do i find what key i have
[00:29] <PublicStaticVoid> aircrack-ng can do any WEP key in about 2 mins or less
[00:29] <Gallomimia> killerbart10: you usually set that in your accesspoint's setup
[00:29] <PublicStaticVoid> gordonjcp: Haha
[00:29] <killerbart10> ok brb
[00:30] <Burrito> Sometimes I wish tab-completion would pick the person who spoke last, first.
[00:30] <PublicStaticVoid> just type your default gateway address in a browser on any machine connected to the router
[00:30] <Burrito> Would be very useful in these big channels.
[00:30] <Gallomimia> it will, if you use a client that is smart
[00:30] <user_> Hi!
[00:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Burrito: There is an irssi plugin for that
[00:30] <Burrito> HexChat is dumb, then. :<
[00:30] <Burrito> HexChat supports plugins. I'll look for one.
[00:30] <picca> Burrito: which IRC client are you using
[00:30] <TekWiz> Hello!
[00:31] <Gallomimia> ^^^
[00:31] <Gallomimia> hi
[00:31] <Burrito> picca, HexChat, like XChat except the project is alive.
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> Burrito: Python and Perl?
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> or Just Perl?
[00:31] <Burrito> PublicStaticVoid, Both
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> I have a touchscreen and never use it now that I nuked win 8.1
[00:31] <Burrito> PublicStaticVoid, It can also be extended to support TCL and so on.
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> Burrito: Jealous
[00:31] <picca> Burrito: it's a good idea, and not seen any other irc clients implement it
[00:31] <TekWizz> Wow I'm new to IRC lol
[00:31] <Gallomimia> ohhh... i'm using Xchat. is it a package Burrito?
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> Wish irssi would FINALLY add native python support
[00:32] <Gallomimia> we can see that TekWizz :)
[00:32] <TekWizz> I'm using Konversation, is that a good client?
[00:32] <TekWizz> Thanks Gallomimia
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> haha
[00:32] <Gallomimia> if it gets you in here, it's good enough
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> If you are into fat chicks it is
[00:32] <Gallomimia> :)
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> and by fat chicks I mean bloated IRC Clients...
[00:32] <picca> lol PublicStaticVoid
[00:32] <TekWizz> Anybody know the most popular client for windows?
[00:32] <Burrito> Gallomimia, Here is their PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> hey picca
[00:32] <picca> Big Beautiful IRC clients
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> I knew you before I got a new identity!
[00:33] <killerbart10> i found my passphrase, do i enter that at the password screen on ubuntu
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> haha
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> killerbart10: Yea
[00:33] <rww> @random pizza icecream
[00:33] <TekWizz> Well Konversation looks nice, it's got usernames in colors
[00:33] <rww> oops, wrong channel
[00:33] <Burrito> TekWizz, mIRC is one of the most popular. Not sure if it is still popular.
[00:33] <Gallomimia> uh... someone remind me good way to add ppa's
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> Burrito: Ewww
[00:33] <Burrito> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/hexchat-stable
[00:33] <Gallomimia> mirc is definitely most popular for winblowz
[00:33] <TekWizz> oh yeah I remember mIRC from the Amiga days
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> Everyone should use weechat irssi or emacs
[00:33] <killerbart10> ok going to try and boot ubuntu if fails ill be back
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> I havent tried hexchat
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> is it CLI?
[00:34] <cuddylier> Hi, I'm having trouble removing MySQL after accidentally deleting the /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[00:34] <cuddylier> I've tried everything in this guide: http://stuffthatspins.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-10-x-completely-remove-and-clean-mysql-installation/
[00:34] <Burrito> PublicStaticVoid, Unfortunately not
[00:34] <cuddylier> All leads to nothing
[00:34] <cuddylier> Anyone any idea apart from an OS reinstall?
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> I am sort of a Command Line Interface Type...
[00:35] <PublicStaticVoid> If anyone gets that joke..
[00:35] <Gallomimia> apt-get remove mysql ??
[00:35] <PublicStaticVoid> I wish there was a DE geared twards touchscreen besides Enlightenment
[00:36] <Gallomimia> i wish firefoxOS had command line at all :(
[00:36] <PublicStaticVoid> eww
[00:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Has anyone tried OracleOS?
[00:36] <Gallomimia> any suggsetions what to install on my phone instead?
[00:36] <PublicStaticVoid> is it just Solaris reborn? Haha
[00:36] <Burrito> hehehehe.. type
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> Gallomimia: You were trying to install Ubuntu on your phone?
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> Like Ubuntu Touch?
[00:37] <Gallomimia> no, i have a ffos zte dev preview
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> aw
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> Okay
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> My GF is here
[00:38] <PublicStaticVoid> I will be back later
[00:39] <faraj> hi
[00:40] <faraj> i need hlp plese
[00:40] <killerbart10> im back
[00:40] <faraj> need hlp  dhcpd.conf
[00:40] <faraj> :(
[00:41] <killerbart10> i still get busyboox error
[00:41] <faraj> alsaaaalam alyukom
[00:41] <Burrito> faraj, Just ask :)
[00:42] <Burrito> Gallomimia, ah, HexChat can do tab completion in the "last-spoken" order. I found something in the options.
[00:42] <quem> anyone who built a cheap NAS recently?
[00:42] <quem> :)
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | quem
[00:43] <killerbart10> burrito check you message
[00:44] <Burrito> oh
[00:44] <Burrito> I saw the message in here too, you didn't have to PM me
[00:44] <Burrito> but.. I'll Google around
[00:44] <killerbart10> oh sorry
[00:45] <Burrito> What is the error, specifically? Something like: "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg." | "BusyBox v1.18. (Ubuntu 1:1.18.5-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash)" ?
[00:45] <killerbart10> only BusyBox v1.18. (Ubuntu 1:1.18.5-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash) no device found
[00:46] <quem> hitsujiTMO: heh.. i told someone not to ask to ask earlier. now i feel like i made the same blunder.
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> quem: :P whats the actual problem?
[00:47] <cuddylier> Anyone know why I'm getting these errors when trying to uninstall MySQL? brandon98@y7mail.com
[00:47] <quem> hitsujiTMO: i'm essentially looking for the cheapest possible motherboard/psu that aren't unreliable. and i wonder how much RAM i need for ZFS to function, as it sounds very appealing to me.
[00:47] <cuddylier> I mean: http://pastie.org/8602126
[00:47] <quem> i shun data loss like the plague.
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> quem: hmm. how many drives? if you want 10 go for http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z87%20Extreme6
[00:51] <killerbart10> any luck?
[00:51] <Burrito> killerbart10, It seems like boot-repair has solved the issue for many people, maybe you can try it
[00:51] <Burrito> quem, many people have done it with a Raspberry Pi. They are low voltage, and can run for months on end without a reboot.
[00:52] <Burrito> Also easy to make a battery backup for them.
[00:52] <killerbart10> how do use/install boot-repair?
[00:52] <Burrito> It's a package - you can install: sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[00:53] <Burrito> and then use: boot-repair
[00:53] <killerbart10> ok
[00:53] <Burrito> You will have to change the "Advanced Settings" to be more relevant to the SD card, though. It will by default try to perform operations on your current (hard drive) system.
[00:54] <killerbart10> sudo apt-get install boot-rapair
[00:54] <killerbart10> Reading package lists... Done
[00:54] <killerbart10> Building dependency tree... Done
[00:54] <killerbart10> E: Couldn't find package boot-rapair
[00:54] <ander_> beldar : thanks for your help earlier...
[00:54] <bekks> killerbart10: boot-repair, not boot-rapair
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> killerbart10: did you dd the iso to the sd?
[00:55] <bekks> killerbart10: And I guess boot-repair is a livecd.
[00:55] <DMackey> I have a question, I'm looking for that "Ubuntu Satanic Edition 666.10 64-bit iso" Every link I follow leads to a dead end. TOrrents included.
[00:55] <ander_> i fixed the usb card reader....
[00:55] <bekks> DMackey: It isnt support officially.
[00:56] <killerbart10> couldnt find package
[00:56] <DMackey> I'm ok with that.
[00:56] <DMackey> I read about it, just wanted to play with it.
[00:56] <killerbart10> could i unmount the sd then install the iso again like i have done befor
[00:56] <Burrito> hitsujiTMO, yep, that's what he did. At first he dd'd it to "/dev/sdb1". Now he also tried to dd it to "/dev/sdb", and apparently that didn't work either.
[00:56] <Beldar> ander_, Cool, no prob.
[00:56] <Burrito> killerbart10, did you spell "boot-repair" correctly?
[00:57] <killerbart10> yes
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> DMackey: i don't think it actually exists. think that was a piss take
[00:57] <ander_> Beldar, Ifix the card reader issue .. i feel really dumb  .. it was a bad usb cable , something so simple.. but thank you for your time
[00:57] <killerbart10> i did sdb1 and sdb they worked befor
[00:57] <DMackey> hitsujiTMO, Well that sucks.
[00:57] <Burrito> killerbart10, oh, sorry, do this first: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update"
[00:57] <Beldar> ander_, Heh, been there.
[00:58] <brokendrive> hi
[00:58] <killerbart10> oh
[00:58] <brokendrive> need help in a bad way.
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> killerbart10: did you md5sum the iso to make sure it downloaded correctly? boot repair isn't going to fix any problems with an iso image
[00:59] <killerbart10> what is md5sum
[00:59] <ander_> Beldar,  yea i overlooked  cause it was giveing it   power , just no data
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> !md5 | killerbart10
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> !details | brokendrive
[01:00] <brokendrive> need help with ddrescue. im trying to create an image of a 1 tb broken drive onto my new 2tb mac hard drive to recover as much data as possible. I have managed to get a live cd of swift sans forensics ubuntu running on the mac now.
[01:00] <jaccarmac> I need some CPR for my kernel. Can anyone help me with vagrant and uname hell?
[01:01] <brokendrive> the external broken 1tb drive is at /sdb and the mac drive is /sda
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> brokendrive: do you have a partition that is not hfs on the mac drive?
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> brokendrive: >1tb that is
[01:02] <brokendrive> i was hoping to go something like this ddrescue -r=1 -n -S -v /dev/sdb /dev/sda1/newfile/oldharddrive.img recovery.log
[01:02] <killerbart10> could i reinstall the whole ISO back on the sd
[01:02] <brokendrive> HITSU...no the mac is all hfs
[01:03] <krabador> kihi people, how can i set an user to not run an installed software?
[01:03] <jaccarmac> I need some CPR for my kernel. Can anyone help me with vagrant and uname hell?
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> brokendrive: linux can only mount a hfs partition as writable if the journal is disabled on the partition
[01:03] <brokendrive> HITSU > both drives are HFS from old mac drive to new mac drive
[01:04] <Siecje> I am on ubuntu and I just formatted a usb drive using disk utility and I did NTFS but I don't have write permission on it
[01:04] <brokendrive> hmmmm
[01:05] <brokendrive> HITSUJITMO> is that possible to change without effecting the opperation of the drive on the mac once im done recovery ops
[01:05] <brokendrive> the journaling setting?
[01:05] <Siecje> I just formatted a USB drive using "Disk Utility" to NTFS but I don't have write permission on it
[01:06] <Fay> hello
[01:06] <killerbart10> i have a md5sum.txt file on the sd
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> brokendrive: why not look for a copy of ddrescue thats native to the mac?
[01:06] <killerbart10> im not usin mac
[01:06] <Guest45566> hello :) I am using Ubuntu 13.10 and need a program that will allow me to record what I am doing on the computer, and audio at the same time when I need it. Is there a program that will do such a thing?
[01:06] <brokendrive> i didnt know there was a difference... all the disk recovery pages kept refrencing linux live cd and ddrescue
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> brokendrive: http://derflounder.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/using-ddrescue-on-a-failing-hard-drive/      that was you can easily create the image
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> s/was/way
[01:09] <cuddylier> Why does my SFTP timeout whenever I'm trying to upload a config I edited? it's like 20kb
[01:10] <Fay> cuddylier: use wireshark and find out ;)
[01:10] <cuddylier> it's weird as it's the first time in 17 ubuntu boxes it has happened
[01:10] <Julie> cuddylier: I would try an ssh connection forst and see if that times out
[01:10] <cuddylier> I have 8 with the same provider
[01:10] <cuddylier> SSH is fine
[01:10] <killerbart10> istalling ubuntu
[01:10] <Siecje> How can I format a USB drive but be able to put files onit
[01:13] <zacarias> Hi. I have a hard drive with Mac OS and Ubuntu installed. I reduced the sive of the Mac OS partition to save space for increasing the size of the Ubuntu partition. Now, I have 9 GB of free space just after the Mac OS partition, but after that I have a 1 MB partition with the bios_grub, and then the ext4 partition with Ubuntu. I'm affraid of moving the tiniy bios_grub partition. How should I do it (without having to install all again)?
[01:14] <Fay> you hit it with a rock.
[01:15]  * killerbart10 is waiting for ubuntu to install
[01:15] <quem> Burrito: i use a raspberry pi + external drive for my offsite backups, but the new one needs to manage 4 drives at considerably higher speeds, preferably using zfs.
[01:16] <brokendrive> HITSUJITNO > is there a way to turn on journaling or could I get a second external drive above 1 tb and clone the image that way I avoid trying to write to the macs good hard drive?
[01:16] <quem> hitsujiTMO: four hdds + one ssd!
[01:16] <quem> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the suggestion, but it's quite pricy! :)
[01:16] <Beldar> Siebjee, a usb is the same as a HD in formatting, take you pick here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=format+USB
[01:17] <krabador> how can i let an user run an installed software, and another user not ?
[01:18] <Burrito> quem, I see
[01:19] <Burrito> krabador, I know very little about permissions, but I guess you are looking for group permissions.
[01:20] <victor__> Create a group: "allowed". Then add users into that group. Next run chgrp on the applications (to "allowed"). And finally, chmod to allow only root and "allowed" to execute.
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> quem any preference on form factor?
[01:20] <hdrealfan> guyz , i'm on eOS luna , and i have Intel hd4000 graphics , do i need to install additional driver or not
[01:20] <krabador> Burrito, i thinked about the creation of a group, and don't add an user, but i don't know how to set the group
[01:20] <gordonjcp> !eos
[01:21] <krabador> victor__, tell me more
[01:21] <gordonjcp> !elementary | hdrealfan
[01:21] <hitsujiTMO> quem. hmm thats 1 too many drives for any mobos with onboard processors :(
[01:21] <Burrito> zacarias, if I were you (and if you can make another partition on that drive), I would make a 9GB partition in that free space before the grub partition, and mount something like /usr/bin on there. Or any folder that would take up roughly 9GB eventually. A more permanent and elegant solution would be to just move the grub partition and deal with what comes.
[01:21] <Burrito> if you can call it 'elegant'.
[01:21] <Guest45566> hello :) I am using Ubuntu 13.10 and need a program that will allow me to record what I am doing on the computer, and audio at the same time when I need it. Is there a program that will do such a thing?
[01:21] <Draton> hi everyone, back again - so i copied over my windows partition with dd, hopped on windows and removed the ubuntu parts from the copy, but now i'm trying to get windows to identify the new copies as its boot sectors  (still booting off of the original drive)
[01:21] <Draton> any ideas?
[01:22] <hdrealfan> ok thanks gordonjcp
[01:22] <brokendrive> HITSUJITMO > when I do a #fdisk -l it shows the drives as a GPT system not HFS does that change things? I wonder if I can test write a file to the macs /dev/sda to see if its writable?
[01:23] <krabador> victor__, and if i installed a sofwarem and i create the group, users without permission will look sotware's icons in menus ?
[01:23] <spearhead> krabador: if you only want one use to be able to run it set the owner of the file to that user and set the permissions using chmod 700 path_to_file/name _ of _ file
[01:23] <victor__> krabador "groupadd allowed"
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> brokendrive: gpt is the partition table. hfs is a partition type. different things
[01:23] <Beldar> Draton, You dd'd the windows boot partition?
[01:24] <spearhead> krabador: that will allow only that user and root to read write or execute that file.
[01:24] <Draton> Beldar: I dd'd the whole disk to prevent issues, did a update-grub
[01:25] <Draton> Beldar: then booted off of the 'sddb (thew windows ssd)
[01:25] <victor__> krabador next, add users into group: sudo usermod -a -G allowed user_a
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> brokendrive: you can disable the journal in osx and reenable it after. but you be better off to install the mac port of ddrescue
[01:25] <quem> hitsujiTMO: damn, that hadn't occurred to me at all. guess asus c8hm70-i/hdmi is off the menu too then. :/
[01:25] <Beldar> Draton, Then removed the ubuntu, cause it's on the original ssd, which ubuntu got the update grub?
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> quem: this is prob what id go for http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H87%20Pro4/
[01:26] <brokendrive> HITSUJITMO> I was hoping to do this in the forensics linux distro to use some of the utils on the image if i have to to recover wedding photos... i guess i could come back to the linux once the image is made on the mac
[01:26] <Draton> Beldar: I want ubuntu (primary) on the original ssd, removed ubuntu from sdb (the new windows only drive) but windows is showing it's booting of of sda still - i'm afraid that if i remove windows from sda it will put me in a bad state
[01:26] <victor__> krabador then, change the applications permissions... say, firefox. sudo chgrp allowed /usr/bin/firefox
[01:27] <Beldar> Draton, Having two identical windows, is a problem, did you make an image as I suggested?
[01:28] <krabador> victor__, and this last, let only allowed members to run /usr/bin/firefox ?
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> quem: or if you want something a little cheaper http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4729#ov
[01:29] <quem> hitsujiTMO: ah, looks good. but i suppose it wouldn't fit in a mini-itx case?
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> quem: ahh so m-itx cool
[01:30] <Beldar> Draton, Do you have a recovery or install disc for windows, if it were mr I would setup the new ssd's mbr to boot just windows, check that it boots and then remove the original.
[01:30] <quem> hitsujiTMO: good thing i didn't order anything yet.. i've done many uninformed dumbass purchases lately and i'm getting tired of it. :P haven't been following the developments in hardware in nearly a decade and gotten by with crappy laptops instead of assembling anything myself.
[01:30] <Beldar> me*
[01:30] <victor__> krabador finally, the permission itself: sudo chmod 774 /usr/bin/firefox
[01:31] <victor__> krabador i guess this will do.... 774: owner can do everything... group too, others just read.
[01:32] <Draton> Beldar: at this point i just dd'd and updated grub, i don't have a repair disk
[01:32] <quem> hitsujiTMO: what do you think of the ASRock E350M1?
[01:32] <rww> should be 775 if you want them to also execute it
[01:32] <killerbart10> i going to try and install ubuntu AGAIN
[01:32] <rww> oh, nvm
[01:32] <quem> hitsujiTMO: never mind.. it's 4 SATA + 1 E-SATA.
[01:32] <Fay> ahlafalllllol
[01:32] <victor__> rww but he said he would like to prevent other users from executing... i guess it should be 4
[01:33] <Draton> Beldar: going to try something one sec
[01:33] <Beldar> Draton, Heh, your totally unprepared like most users, usually it is mistakes here that are a good dope slap needed. You can boot into a windows right?
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO> quem: you're willing to drop to 3 hdds?
[01:33] <quem> hehe, not quite.
[01:33] <krabador> victor, ok
[01:34] <quem> but one, sure.. 1 SSD + 3 HDD.
[01:34] <Draton> Beldar: I think the issue is the new drive doesn't have an MBR
[01:34] <Draton> Beldar: so windows isn't identifying it as a system drive
[01:35] <Beldar> Draton, Right and a recovery disc made in a windows will fix this.
[01:35] <Draton> Beldar: I can boot into a windows recovery partition, trying to restore the mbr now
[01:36] <Beldar> Draton, right in the sense we can load the bcd boot to the mbr and see if it boots, nothing to do with it being seen however.
[01:36] <damarusama> I only have the iw commande - can I use that to connect my wireless adapter to my unsecured network?
[01:37] <Beldar> Draton, Dude, you are picking at it and may end up with a broken setup. Can you boot to windows and make the tiny recovery disc?
[01:38] <quem> hitsujiTMO: maybe i could run the OS off a 16 or 32 GB USB memory. :)
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> quem: yup looks pretty sweet. what price are you getting for it?
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> quem: lol, thats not a bad idea :P
[01:38] <quem> heh
[01:38] <Draton> Beldar: so everything i'm doing is to the new drive
[01:38] <quem> 537 SEK, 82 USD, is the best option in Sweden.
[01:39] <Draton> Beldar so worst case i can restore from the old
[01:39] <quem> hitsujiTMO: it's a hell lot cheaper than an SSD anyhow, heh
[01:39] <Beldar> Draton, We are not even close to actually communicating, I can't really help without that.
[01:40] <Draton> Beldar: I don't what you mean? I'm currently on the restore partition of the original drive (sda). I'm using it, in essence, as a restore cd to restore the windows mbr on the new drive (sdb)
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO> quem: yeah not gonna find something much cheaper than that
[01:41] <kkkkkkkkkkk> hi, all i am using ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and kernel 3.8.0.29  but it is freezing randomly, most of times, when chrome open, it happens everytime i login and do browsing, for example say after 30-40 minutes, alt+ctrl+delete not working, alt+ctrl+f2 not working, only things that works for me, alt+prtsys+REISUB, I don't want to lose my work and it is annoying, this thing was not present in 32 bit ubuntu and it was working quite good, with kernel 3.2.0.52
[01:42] <Beldar> Draton, You might ask in ##windows on this part, a recovery disc/usb is the standard way to reload the mbr.
[01:42] <Fay> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkx
[01:42] <kkkkkkkkkkk> i installed a updated version in a hope that it will provide more stability
[01:42] <kkkkkkkkkkk> but it is more vulnurable
[01:42] <kkkkkkkkkkk> Fay: yes
[01:42] <Fay> idfk bro ubuntu is wack
[01:43] <Beldar> !ops | Fay
[01:43] <rww> sigh
[01:44] <rww> Fay: #ubuntu is a tech support channel. We have #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd prefer to chat :)
[01:44] <kkkkkkkkkkk> i think it is a emergency to use it every time
[01:44] <quem> hitsujiTMO: great. i just saved 300 SEK!
[01:44] <quem> :D
[01:44] <laura-_> Hi.. my computer isn't starting after upgrading from 13.04->13.10 this morning.  I *think* I've narrowed it down to this bug with UFI + iso8859-1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1221330
[01:44] <Fay> psh #ubuntu is a google n00bfest scavenger hunt.
[01:44] <Xgates> hey guys
[01:44] <Xgates> does Ubuntu have an off topic channel?
[01:44] <laura-_> But I don't understand what UFI is.  Is there any  workaround?
[01:45] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | laura-_
[01:45] <Flannel> Xgates: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:45] <Draton> Beldar: alright expended that option, going to make a recovery win 7 drive
[01:45] <Xgates> I wanted to talk and share some thoughts on the Unity Amazon and Search stuff and if some others are into wanting to let Canocial and Shuttleworth know...
[01:45] <Xgates> Flannel: thanks
[01:45] <elky> Xgates: tjat
[01:45] <elky> Xgates: this is not the place for that
[01:45] <Xgates> ?
[01:46] <Flannel> elky: He knows that.
[01:46] <Xgates> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <Xgates> :)
[01:46] <kkkkkkkkkkk> i am not a linux expert, but i have few issues with ubuntu, like i want to call through my mobile -broadband, because in windows i used to do so, when it has calling support then it should be available for linux also, second microphone has a large noise in recording, but while on windows, there is very less noise as compared to that, i didn't find anything to configure like noise compression and echo suppression, how to do that in ubuntu
[01:46] <laura-_> MonkeyDust - Thanks for the note.. although I don't believe that helps in my situation.  I followed the instructions and bumped up against that bug
[01:46] <Beldar> Draton, Cool so make it, remove the original ssd boot it go to the recovery terminal and run. BootRec.exe /fixmbr
[01:46] <elky> Flannel: to be honest, -offtopic isn't a messenger service for canonical either.
[01:47] <Beldar> Draton, If the windows boot needs a rebuild I have the commands for it.
[01:47] <rww> elky: it is, however, the hangout for people who hate the 'buntu
[01:47] <kkkkkkkkkkk> on internet , at many places it is advised to install  pulseaudio2, how to do that in ubuntu, or how to know whether i have installed it or not
[01:47] <rww> should be called #ubuntu-offmessage
[01:48] <Beldar> should be called ubuntu sub mean IQ
[01:48] <james-> hello how's it going? Hoping someone can help me figure out why I can't open programs. I can't even open firefox, I click on it and it loads and then stops. Nothing comes up and I cant do anything
[01:48] <james-> using ubuntu 13.10
[01:49] <kkkkkkkkkkk> james: did you tried to restart and then tried to open again
[01:49] <Beldar> james-, Any info leading to this? Any backups?
[01:49] <kkkkkkkkkkk> james-: many programs stay in the memory and do not respond
[01:50] <admbaum> hello everyone
[01:50] <james-> Beldar, nope very random, been using 13.10 for a week now and it always works great. all of a sudden I have problems. kkkkkkkkkkk How can I clean programs from memory? Is there a way to stop this?
[01:50] <Hydr0p0nX> is there any tuning that can be done with the nouveau driver ?
[01:51] <Beldar> james-, So no update or install then this happens?
[01:52] <Draton> james-: when you open does it show any indication of opening? or does it just 'silently' fail?
[01:52] <laura-_> MonkeyDust: Do you think a clean install of 13.10 would avoid that error?
[01:52] <daftykins> elky: are you marrying a freenode'ian?
[01:52] <ickefes> hi guys. do you know if there is a PPA for VLC 2.12 for Ubuntu 12.04?
[01:52] <Beldar> james-, Have you tried a reboot, as is your info is just empty is all.
[01:53] <elky> daftykins: this is not an appropriate topic
[01:53] <daftykins> :(
[01:54] <james-> Beldar, I did have an update earlier, but I was using the internet at the time and it was working fine. I tried to reboot, I also checked the system monitor and couldn't find any signs of firefox. I did try a reboot. Draton it shows an indication, the mouse cursor turns into a circle to show that it is loading then it just stops and nothing happens afterwards.
[01:55] <admbaum> yes!!!
[01:55] <OerHeks> ickefes, no, sorry, only 2.2 > https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily?field.series_filter=precise
[01:55] <admbaum> fixed my issue and didnt event have to ask anyone.....w00t w00t
[01:56] <Beldar> admbaum, Heh, my ego does not allow me to ask for help.
[01:56] <ickefes> DerHeks: Thank you. I guess 2.2 will have VP9 compatibility compared to VLC2.08
[01:56] <james-> Beldar, I also uninstalled firefox and reinstalled it and it didn't make a difference.
[01:56] <Senexor> quick question deleted my .cache folder because it was 10gb  large and now all thumbnails are gone why arent they regenerated?
[01:56] <gzimdahl> i am running xubuntu from a pendrive with persistence. I have installed gnome and unity but I  do not see them as options when I logout and back in. Any ideas?
[01:56] <admbaum> I was trying so hard to fix my networking issue all by myselfins
[01:57] <Senexor> does anyone have any idea what i can do about that?
[01:57] <Beldar> james-, run firefox in the terminal and see what it shows
[01:57] <james-> Beldar, sorry what is the command?
[01:57] <Beldar> james-, firefox
[01:58] <james-> Beldar, got a problem, ill pastebin it hold on.
[01:58] <james-> Beldar, oh wait i can;t i dont have a browser, can i paste output here?
[01:59] <Beldar> james-, not more than about 2 lines
[01:59] <james-> Beldar, is there a way we can do a private message so i can show you? Its more than 2 lines and i have no access to pastebin
[01:59] <Beldar> !pastebinit | james-
[02:02] <james-> Beldar, I installed it but can't find it anywhere
[02:03] <Beldar> james-, Now run firefox| pastebinit  let it go to the error and is stopped and it will give you a pastebin address
[02:03] <Senexor> nobody an idea where the error is located?
[02:04] <james-> Beldar, permission denied you are trying to send an empty document, exiting
[02:04] <Beldar> james-, This is not really an area over all I expect I can help you fix.
[02:05] <Draton> james-: are all apps not opening?
[02:06] <james-> Draton, seems to be only firefox and thunderbird
[02:07] <Draton> hmm ok, any relevant logs that you can see? you could do a "ls /var/log/ | pastebinit" (without quotes of course)
[02:07] <Draton> hopefully they are doing standard logging
[02:07] <james-> Draton, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6694520/
[02:09] <Draton> hmm, looks pretty standard, looking to see if we have to pass some commandline param to force some debug level
[02:10] <james-> Draton, there was one other program that gave me a hard time, I tried installing istanbul desktop recorder and it installed but failed to start as well. Did the same thing firefox and thunderbird are doing now. I deleted it.
[02:11] <Draton> james-: completely random, doubt it will work but: try typing firefox -private
[02:11] <sideup66> hello room
[02:11] <sideup66> if anyone is here
[02:11] <james-> Draton, permission denied
[02:11] <Draton> type sudo !!
[02:12] <raub> Draton: does firefox log to syslog?
[02:12] <Draton> raub: i was hoping, i think there's a commandline param for it
[02:12] <sideup66> sudo, your essentially commanding the computer to make you a sandwich
[02:12] <james-> Draton, sudo firefox worked.
[02:12] <Draton> and firefox opened?
[02:12] <james-> Draton, yes
[02:13] <Draton> james-: did you do sudo firefox? or sudo firefox -private?
[02:13] <james-> Draton, I tried sudo firefox and it worked.
[02:13] <Draton> ok sooo
[02:13] <Draton> one of two things:
[02:13] <Draton> corrupt firefox profile
[02:13] <Draton> or
[02:13] <Draton> permissions issue on firefox
[02:13] <raub> Draton: -jsconsole perhaps?
[02:14] <james-> Draton, sudo thunderbird works as well. I just can't select the icons
[02:14] <Draton> james-: how did you install them?
[02:15] <Draton> raub: I think jsconsole is depreciated
[02:15] <james-> Draton, firefox was installed with Ubuntu
[02:15] <spearhead> Draton: would a dpkg --reconfigure do anything in this case?
[02:16] <raub> Draton: I almost want to ask him to run id
[02:16] <Stormer97> okay, so I just finished updating mesa and some other video drivers, and now all DEs are getting some amount of artifacting, and my DE of choice, Cinnamon, even with software rendering, has artifacting so server it is totally unusable. Also, my wifi totally stopped working, and make can no long compile my wifi driver, even though it worked 2 hours ago.
[02:16] <Draton> spearhead: maybe, but it seems that this is a shear permissions issue, strange for a standard install no?
[02:16] <Draton> james-: no updating since then?
[02:17] <quem> hdrealfan: thank you again for your help. :)
[02:17] <Beldar> Stormer97, updating mesa with?
[02:17] <spearhead> Draton: yeah unless that package he installed messed with it...
[02:17] <Beldar> Stormer97, any ppa's involved here?
[02:17] <Stormer97> apt-get dist-upgrade after adding a video driver PPA suggested by steam
[02:18] <Beldar> Stormer97, what about the mesa, is it out of the ubuntu repos?
[02:18] <Stormer97> I beleive I installed mesa from apt, I did not specify a repo
[02:18] <Draton> spearhead: which program? might have missed it
[02:18] <james-> Draton, I did do an update but wasn't experiencing an error at the time. The first version of firefox installed with ubuntu 13.10, when I experienced the error and couldnt get it to work I installed the next one from the software manager. Do you think the update could have done it? Is there a way to go back before the update to see if it makes a difference?
[02:19] <Stormer97> also, this is 12.04, if it matters
[02:19] <Beldar> Stormer97, and mesa was for what de? and what de's do you have, they genrally have different window managers.
[02:20] <Beldar> Stormer97, Then cinnamon is a ppa as well.
[02:20] <Stormer97> aye, cinnamon is a ppa
[02:20] <Beldar> !ppa | Stormer97
[02:20] <spearhead> Draton: he said he tried installing Istanbul desktop recorder and it installed but wouldn't open.
[02:20] <Stormer97> the problem started immediately after updaing from the steam video ppa
[02:21] <Stormer97> is there a way I can uninstall everyting from it?
[02:21] <Beldar> Stormer97, sure but with a handful of ppa's not supported here, kinda hard to really get to the gist.
[02:21] <Beldar> Stormer97, The bots ppa info mentions ppa-purge
[02:22] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | Stormer97
[02:22] <Stormer97> not sure which PPA it was
[02:22] <Draton> james-: you said it was only the 3 programs, the new one you installed, firefox and thunderbird?
[02:22] <Stormer97> what is the command to list all PPAs?
[02:23] <Stormer97> actually, is there a way to remove all non-stock PPAs?
[02:23] <Beldar> Stormer97, ppa-purge is how you do it.
[02:24] <Beldar> each one individually
[02:24] <james-> Draton, yes only the 3. When I installed istanbul desktop recorder it wouldnt open, I deleted it. Firefox stopped working, tried to restart and it failed. I deleted it and reinstalled it still had the same problem. Thunderbird I left alone. Is it possible the update I did or istanbul somehow corrupted firefox and thunderbird?
[02:24] <Beldar> Stormer97, Stock and ppa don't go together, ppa's are 3rd parties is all.
[02:24] <Stormer97> ah
[02:25] <Stormer97> I ran sudo ppa=purge *
[02:25] <spearhead> james-: could you run ls -la /usr/lib/firefox | pastebinit
[02:25] <Beldar> Stormer97, Some quite usable, just have to be careful. read the bots info on ppa-purge
[02:26] <james-> spearhead, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6694599/
[02:26] <Stormer97> you know what, this is a new install, ima just say fuck it and install ubuntu 13, and start from scratch
[02:26] <Gallomimia> looking for some ppa's? run: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:27] <Gallomimia> why remove ppa's? why not remove the packages you installed from them instead?
[02:27] <Beldar> Stormer97, 13.04 and above have cinnamon in the ubuntu repos, and be careful no swearing here.
[02:28] <Gallomimia> he left. seems to have a workable solution for him
[02:28] <spearhead> james-: how about ls -la /usr/bin/firefox | pastebinit
[02:28] <Draton> spearhead: beat me to it :)
[02:28] <james-> spearhead, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6694609/
[02:29] <spearhead> Draton: all his permissions seem to match mine
[02:29] <Draton> spearhead: including the link?
[02:30] <Beldar> james-, Have you in general rooted the terminal when needing admin access?
[02:31] <james-> Beldar, i dont know what that means lol
[02:31] <Beldar> james-, Heh, good, many here so and have a bad habit of doing it.
[02:31] <Beldar> do*
[02:31] <spearhead> Draton: yeah the link in /usr/bin and all the files in /usr/lib/firefox. Unless I missed one, I can go back and look again.
[02:32] <ROPA> Beldar you helped me out getting skype to run yesterday evening, many thanks, it works now!!!!
[02:32] <Beldar> ROPA, Cool, someone else helped if I remember as well.
[02:33] <Beldar> kostkon I think
[02:33] <ROPA> Beldar they're not online, will thanks em when I see them here.
[02:33] <spearhead> Beldar: I admit that if I am going to be doing a lot of admin work I tend to just root the terminal... probably should stop...
[02:33] <Gallomimia> sudo -i ??
[02:33] <Beldar> spearhead, Heh, it's not debian. ;)
[02:33] <Beldar> yep
[02:34] <Hydr0p0nX> does any release of 12.04 support libg3dvl-mesa ?
[02:34] <Gallomimia> im trying to stay out of that habit too
[02:34] <Gallomimia> also making sure to keep out of the habit of leaving ssh root@somewhere sessions open when i'm not sitting there
[02:35] <smil3y> trying to mount an osx mountain lion partition to recover some pics for a customer, drive is reporting as "unrecognized file system" in fdisk, any clue?
[02:35] <spearhead> Yeah, I have that habit too... trying to just ssh in as normal user then sudo if needed
[02:36] <Beldar> smil3y, gdisk I believe for osx, just a guess
[02:36] <Gallomimia> smil3y: double check the disk isn't encrypted, tho i think it only does that on user home's
[02:36] <Gallomimia> i have put my HFS+ disks into my ubuntu machine and used them with no issue :/
[02:37] <smil3y> gallomimia> yea he says he doesnt think its encrypted, ill give it a try, thanks
[02:37] <Gallomimia> holy crap that disk is still HFS+ ?? i can w/r to it no problems...
[02:38] <james-> Draton, spearhead this thing is whacked. I randomly clicked them and they worked I have no idea why.
[02:38] <Draton> hmm
[02:38] <Gallomimia> james-: how many times have you rebooted recently?
[02:38] <Beldar> james-, You might run a memory check from the live boot.
[02:39] <james-> Gallomimia, only once. I rebooted after I first had the problem and when firefox still didnt work i uninstalled it and reinstalled it from the software manager and still had the issue.
[02:39] <Gallomimia> yup. pretty whack
[02:39] <spearhead> Maybe because firefox is smart and it fixed the problem itself when you ran it with sudo... we can hope. Maybe. Naw probably not...
[02:39] <Beldar> james-, You would have to purge FF to get it all off the OS
[02:39] <raraputri135> Ado orang indonesia da
[02:40] <Beldar> !in
[02:40] <Gallomimia> hmmm right. without purge, you leave config files that likely cause some issues behind
[02:40] <Gallomimia> indonesia != india
[02:40] <james-> spearhead, firefox smart made me lol, Beldar how do I purge firefox?
[02:40] <smil3y> gollomimia> i dont believe so, its mountain lion so it should be zfs? not sure
[02:40] <raraputri135> SO in here is indians?
[02:41] <quem> any of you guys heard of or had experience with PSUs from the manufacturers MS-Tech, LC-Power, Techsolo or Advance?
[02:41] <Beldar> james-, sudo apt-get purge firefox the sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:41] <SonikkuAmerica> !id | raraputri135
[02:41] <Beldar> then*
[02:41] <raraputri135> Oh okay okay sorry
[02:42] <james-> Beldar, what does the purge command do? I will run them now
[02:42] <Beldar> james-, removes the app and configs generally
[02:42] <james-> Beldar, ok one sec ill go run em
[02:43] <james-> Beldar, ok purge complete,  apt-get install firefox is running now. Should I do the same with thunderbird?
[02:44] <james-> Beldar, install complete FF seems to work fine
[02:44] <Beldar> james-, I would see if this fixes FF first, I wonder if you have a failing memory card or something else.
[02:45] <james-> Beldar, should I restart and see if FF still works?
[02:45] <Beldar> james-, YOU can do the same with thunderbird yeah.
[02:45] <Beldar> james-, Your choice on a reboot, in this case it should not matter theoretically.
[02:45] <spearhead> smil3y: according to the mountain lion core technologies overview by default it should be hfs+ but could be hfsx
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[02:47] <FloodBot1> simonektv: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[02:48] <james-> Beldar, ok ill leave it alone for now. I am really stumped as to what could have caused the issue, very strange. I was searching for a desktop recording program at the same time as doing the update i wish i knew what could have done it. I want to continue searching for a recording program but im kind of afraid now
[02:49] <spearhead> james-: have you tried audacity?
[02:49] <james-> spearhead, no not yet
[02:50] <Beldar> james-, Heh now you know the purge I use it regularly on removing stuff.
[02:51] <connor__> hi does any one know hoe you install github.com/dvdhrm/xwiimote-bindings it says use just run ./configure [--prefix=/usr] but where?
[02:51] <james-> Beldar, thank you very much im adding a few of these commands to my notes
[02:51] <Draton> james-: i'm guessing it might have been a corrupted profile
[02:51] <Beldar> Draton, My thought as well.
[02:52] <Draton> the sudo would have forced to a new user root, with a new profile
[02:52] <laura-_> Crazy question: Is it possible to change the charset of the /boot/efi partition?
[02:52] <spearhead> james-: depending on what you want to use it for it is good for recording, playback and some editing. Website at http://audacity.sourceforge.net and it is in the repositories if you want to install it.
[02:53] <laura-_> I think I'm getting burned because my /boot/efi partition is iso8859-1, and it doesn't look like Ubuntu 13.10 supports that combo
[02:54] <Draton> So Beldar: i have a recovery disk (assuming this worked)... if i understand you: 1. unplug original ssd 2. boot into recovery and restore mbr on new ssd, 3. replugin old ssd, 4. update grub and boot into new ssd, confirm everything is happy, 5. remove old windows
[02:54] <james-> spearhead, i just want it for recording desktop. If I am doing something and I want to record it, maybe some audio sometimes. I am taking computer science in college and could use such a program to do presentations for class projects. I am taking Linux next semester and could really use such a program.
[02:54] <Ziber> Can I get my terminal to show user@remotehost when I SSH?
[02:55] <Draton> Beldar: I assume the unplugging is to prevent the mbr restore from nuking grub?
[02:55] <Draton> ziber: yes you can
[02:56] <Draton> ziber: google .bash_rc and .bash_profile
[02:56] <Beldar> Draton, Basically you have identical windows, and yeah we just want the windows bootloader in that new ssd, so if it boots you know you can remove the windows from the original.
[02:56] <spearhead> james-: Ok well audacity is just for audio... I used a desktop recorder before... I will try and find it again...
[02:56] <connor__> hi does any one know hoe you install github.com/dvdhrm/xwiimote-bindings it says use just run ./configure [--prefix=/usr] but where?
[02:56] <Ziber> Draton: Is there something I can do locally instead of remotely?
[02:56] <james-> spearhead, thank you!
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: whats the output of: echo $SHELL
[02:57] <Mathew> help please any one
[02:57] <Ziber> hitsujiTMO: Locally or remotely?
[02:57] <Beldar> Draton, So we want that new SSD booting straight to windows before you reattach the first ssd.
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: remotely
[02:57] <Ziber> All my servers are bash... /bin/bash.
[02:57]  * dragon121 is away: I'm busy
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: what prompt are you getting?
[02:58]  * dragon121 is back (gone 00:00:15)
[02:58] <Guest97587> trying to install ubuntu 10 on my laptop but after it runs up for a bit i get a bard out monitor and no funtionality
[02:58] <Ziber> hitsujiTMO: Well, the prompt I'm getting is one I've set in .profile. I'm using terminal on my local ubuntu 13.10 laptop, and all the tabs are <user>@<localhost name>. I want them to be <remote user>@<remote hostname>
[03:00] <Draton> Beldar: I'll follow up in a bit - usb app looks to have puked for some reaosn.
[03:00] <james-> spearhead, Draton and Beldar thank you guys for trying to help me with my other issue. Even though it randomly started working and i haven't a clue what the issue was I learned some new commands :) spearhead i'm not going anywhere yet, i'm gonna wait and see what desktop recorder you think i should try I dont want to mess anything up.
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber so its the tab title you want to change not the prompt?
[03:01] <laura-_> Hmm.. Would doing a clean install of 13.10 format my /boot/efi partition?
[03:01] <Ziber> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, and I think I figured out a way I can do it remotely.
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: how many OS do you have on the pc?
[03:02] <creamedcorn177> hey
[03:02] <Guest97587> i tryed dvd boot and got the same issue im using boot from a pendrive
[03:03] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: Just Ubuntu (although Windows previously)
[03:03] <Guest97587> i did have the splash sceen for a bit
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: you can unmount /boot/efi ... format it with: sudo mkfs.ext4 -F32 /dev/sdXY. remount it and then run grub-install
[03:04] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: I believe my upgrade 13.04->.10 got hosed because of missing support for an iso8859-1 charset on the /boot/efi partition
[03:04] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: Except, doesn't the efi partition need to be FAT32?
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: lol sorry that shoul have been  sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdXY       . efi can be fat12, fat16 or fat32
[03:06]  * dragon121 is away: I'm busy
[03:06] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> hey guys
[03:06] <YK_NT_MATHEW> how would i start the install in 1280 1024?
[03:06]  * dragon121 is back (gone 00:00:45)
[03:06] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: I've got Boot-Repair open now.  Would that be the same thing as formatting it (back) to FAT32 in GParted, followed by running Boot-Repair?
[03:06] <Beldar> !away | dragon121
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: no. boot repair doesn't format the efi partition at all.
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: but yes sorry, that would be the same
[03:08] <connor__> hi does any one know hoe you install github.com/dvdhrm/xwiimote-bindings it says use just run ./configure [--prefix=/usr] but where?
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: you'd also have to update /etc/fstab with the new UUID for the efi partition
[03:09] <Beldar> laura-_, Be sure to save the bootinfo summary, if you do not get this fixed the thread listed on its web page is a good place to post it for help
[03:10] <YK_NT_MATHEW> laura have you tryed a windows xp boot and go to dos prompt
[03:10] <Beldar> YK_NT_MATHEW, Are you kidding?
[03:10] <YK_NT_MATHEW> ust the fix mbr fix boot (would they work )
[03:11] <Beldar> YK_NT_MATHEW, This is windows * and a uefi, the fixmbr is a different command to start with, and will not fix their problem.
[03:11] <Beldar> 8*
[03:11] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: Hmm. If I format /boot/efi and then run Boot Repair, do you think it would recreate the data necessary to support my 13.10 install?
[03:11] <smil3y> Gallomimia> thanks man, gdisk worked, had to repair boot and boots up fine now, no need to backup shit
[03:12] <Beldar> smil3y, No swearing here please.
[03:13] <smil3y> Beldar> sorry, slipped
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: it should, but you may need to update /etc/fstab seperately. i don't think boot-repair touches that
[03:13] <Aprel> hi how do I pass a bash variable as part of a command in a script? for ex: I have on one line: addopt="--all", but `ls $addopt` raises an error. It's not equivalent to ls --all. How would I pass addopt as a switch to the ls line?
[03:14] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[03:15] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: Interesting!  If I did this, would it prevent me from being able to do a "scortched earth" reinstall of 13.04?
[03:15] <Beldar> !id | alteregoa
[03:15] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: As in, is there anything that wouldn't be completely undone/fixed if I did a full reinstall?
[03:16] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: I'm trying to figure out at what point I just throw in the towel and try installing 13.04.
[03:16] <alteregoa> Beldar this is not indonesian, it's tamarian
[03:16] <alteregoa> shaka when the walls fell
[03:16] <Beldar> alteregoa, This is an english channel, many if us can only use a translator to tell, if you speak english use it.
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: nope. the hdd can be completely erased or what not. nothing there is permanent
[03:17] <alteregoa> Beldar fascinating
[03:17] <alteregoa> do you speak esperanto too?
[03:17] <Beldar> alteregoa, Your inability to show any cognitive development is.
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> aprel; is: echo `ls $addopt`                                     giving an error?                     `ls $addopt`             on its own will try to execute the result of the list
[03:17] <alteregoa> we on NCC1701D speak a lot of languages
[03:17] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: What are the odds of the format fixing the problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1221330
[03:18] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: The format the /boot/efi partition, then fix everything up
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: i'm not familiar with how the charset could be causing the problem i'm afraid
[03:19] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, you and me both.
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> laura-_: its certainly worth a shot tho. but don't forget to remount /boot/efi before running boot-repair
[03:20] <Aprel> hitsujiTMO: echo `ls $addopts` doesn't work either. I get the error: ./test.sh: line 1: =--all: command not found
[03:21] <Aprel> I'm guessing that's counting "line 0" because the first line is simply $addopts="--all"
[03:21] <hitsujiTMO> aprel remove the $.
[03:21] <idaniel> Hi, guys, kinda new with Ubuntu, Linux. I hear "Pipelight" is a new way to watch Netfix on Linux. Has it become an update yet on Ubuntu?
[03:22] <james-> on ubuntu 13.10 i right clicked on a mounted item in my unity launcher and accidently clicked on something that makes it so it dont show mounted items there. Is there a way to make it normal again?
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> aprel: addopts="--all" not $addopts="--all"                     and that is line 1. there is no line 0
[03:22] <spearhead> james-: I can't remember which one I have used before but out of the ones in Ubuntu Software Center two look good, RecordMyDesktop and Kazam. I just installed both of them and they both seem to record well and both have the option to select the area to record. They both have good reviews so I would say try them both out and see which one you like better. One thing I will say is that Kazam saves the video in mp4 which is nice, Reco
[03:22] <Aprel> hitsujiTMO: oops, you're right there. Now let me try the echo syntax in my more complicated script....
[03:23] <james-> spearhead, What is mp4?
[03:23] <james-> spearhead, and thank you I will install both now
[03:23] <laura-_> hitsujiTMO: Formatted my EMI partition.  Running Boot-Repair just to see what it does.  I feel sick :(
[03:23] <rcmaehl_mibbit> what
[03:23] <rcmaehl_mibbit> If I wanted to copy the image of a cd directly to a flash drive it'd be 'sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/flashdrive' right?
[03:24] <spearhead> james-: mp4 is fairly standard in video, practically anything will play mp4.
[03:24] <justno> Hi guys, I'm a fair noob with linux, i have a netbook i was running ubuntu on and everything was fine, then i tried lubuntu and cant seem to get the sd card to mount
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead: mp4 is a container not a format. it can contain any number of codecs so don't rely on the extension to determine compatability
[03:25] <mjmac85_> Hello!  I'm confused on how to setup permissions for a folder.  I will be adding a lot of files and do not want to have to do chmod every time I create a new file in the folder.  How can I set it up so that these new files inherit the permission on the parent directory?
[03:25] <spearhead> james-: it is a file type, kind of like the difference between mp3 and wav audio files.
[03:26] <Aprel> hitsujiTMO: Okay, now trying in my other script: addopts="--keep-foreign-metadata" and on a later line: flac `echo $addopts` -ds -o /tmp/flacBack.wav "$flacName" gives an error line 12: [: --keep-foreign-metadata: integer expression expected
[03:26] <james-> spearhead, I see. Cool I am checking them out now, they seem to work awesome!
[03:26] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead: nope. wav and mp3 are codecs. mp4 is a container
[03:27] <spearhead> hitsujiTMO: that is true but if it is contained in a mp4 it pretty much always has the same codec... at least in my experience.
[03:27] <james-> spearhead, where does kazam save files?
[03:28] <spearhead> hitsujiTMO: it is usually m4v codec
[03:29] <spearhead> james-: it saved it in my Videos folder.
[03:29] <Ziber> What does "client denied by server configuration" mean when getting a 403 error on an apache server under 13.10 mean?
[03:29] <james-> spearhead, trying to figure out how to stop kazam lol
[03:29] <Aprel> rcmaehl_mibbit: that might work. But some OSes might fail to mount it because will likely be ISO/UDF, not FAT or NTFS, which it is expecting on a flash drive.
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead: if your using a simgle app to write mp4s then it will most certainly use the same codec each time, but i download all sorts of mp4s and they're always a huge variety of codecs in them, h264, x264, mp3, aac, ac3, xvid, divx, mpeg2 ... the list goes on
[03:31] <jarno> mp4 is a codec mkv is a container imho
[03:31] <Aprel> rcmaehl_mibbit: Are you trying to take a bootable image like one of the ubuntu isos and copy to flash drive to boot form it?
[03:32] <spearhead> james-: when the Kazam window has focus in the bar at the top of the screen click File > Quit or hit Ctrl+q
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> Aprel: that should be: flac "$addopts" -ds -o /tmp/flacBack.wav "$flacName"                      in the least
[03:32] <rcmaehl_mibbit> Aprel: I had an iso a while back that a burned to a cd, now I need it on the flash drive because I'm working on a netbook but i only have the cd now
[03:32] <Aprel> jarno: :) mkv is amazing. I wish there was as much support for it as mp4
[03:32] <Draton> Beldar: what was that mbr command?
[03:33] <Beldar> Draton, BootRec.exe /fixmbr
[03:33] <Draton> Beldar: great just wanted to confirm, ran and booting now
[03:33] <Beldar> Draton, cool.
[03:34] <james-> spearhead, thank you
[03:34] <Aprel> rcmaehl_mibbit: the easiest way would be to mount the CD and then copy all the files over to the flash. Using dd may still work. I'd be interested if it did.
[03:34] <Draton> Beldar: ok so failed to boot, going to use the recovery to try to repair, guessing it doesn't like the hardware change
[03:34] <Draton> Beldar: hit the mbr though
[03:35] <spearhead> jarno: I think it is both a container and a codec because I know you can have an mp4 file type which is not encoded as mp4 (or m4v as the video one is called I think) the confusion comes since mp4 files are used for video, video and audio, or just audio...
[03:35] <Beldar> Draton, Lets run the bootscript from a live cd, or you can from ubuntu a live cd would keep it cleaner though. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:36] <spearhead> james-: np
[03:36] <jarno> oki
[03:36] <spearhead> james-: how long have you been running linux?
[03:36] <omnicitadel> so my wife asked me a for a favor and I thought I could come up with a fix… she has a 400 page PDF which each page is really 2 pages side by side vertically… after 4 hours I am about to print all 400 pages, cut them and rescan… I have never felt so technically useless as I do now…
[03:37] <Aprel> Is there an easy way to change to change the "Accessed/Modified" times in file properties from 24-hour system to 12-hour am/pm?
[03:37] <Beldar> Draton, The bootscript is helpful, here are the rebuild commands from that recovery cli. http://pastebin.com/0vUyCax3
[03:37] <spearhead> james-: when you right clicked on the mounted item in the unity launcher did you click on Unlock from Launcher?
[03:38] <jarno> real vs fake
[03:38] <Beldar> for that*
[03:40] <jarno> seen avi container it can be just a name
[03:40] <Beldar> Draton, Generally if you are running the repair 3 times is the usual amount run, I would run the rebuild commands if needed. We can get you a good clone if needed, so no biggie.
[03:40] <Guest76162> Hi, i've got a challenging problem. While installing/updating the new ubuntu 13.10, I was installing my nvidia drivers and some OsX skins with general updates, etc... and after a required reboot, the screen goes through the paces like the purple background with the Ubuntu logo and the five dots, then goes completely black. The mouse only activates after i wiggle it, and i get a white X (the mac curser, if i recall) and that's it. no keystrokes do
[03:40] <Guest76162> anything, no mouse clicks do anything... both screens are activated, the laptop main and the 32" secondary... but nothing else happens. This is the same computer, am on a live-boot now... so showing error screens may be a little bit of a challenge. Ideas? anyone?
[03:41] <vl4kn0> Hi, I have problem with ath9k driver. It's got very weak transmission power compared to windows 7. Is there any way to fix this?
[03:42] <Beldar> Guest76162, You can from the tty change the nvidia..etc, or maybe try a nomodeset boot to get to the desktop
[03:42] <Draton> Beldar: i'm getting a 'the requested system device cannot be found" part of the 'reboot multiple times stuff?
[03:43] <Guest76162> how would I go about that?, Beldar?
[03:44] <Beldar> Draton, Hmm, not sure what that means, if it were me I would want windows to boot up and just go, maybe an image of the original to load might be  better.
[03:44] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Guest76162
[03:45] <Beldar> Draton, I assume there is a boot partition, it would have a boot flag on it (active) the bootscript would give us a lot more info if you want to still work on this load.
[03:46] <Draton> Beldar: trying one more thing
[03:46] <Beldar> Draton, cool.
[03:46] <Guest76162> Beldar: it booted once fine, all of this makes no sense to me. sorry. :(
[03:47] <spearhead> What would be the best way to refresh the unity interface without loging out and back in?
[03:47] <Beldar> Guest76162, "I was installing my nvidia drivers and some OsX skins with general updates, etc." is changing the OS in a manner that can cause this and a reboot will show the actual nvidia changes.
[03:49] <pvl1> is it safe to remove modem manager
[03:49] <Guest76162> Beldar: That I understand, it was the link you sent me. All the code goes over my head.
[03:49] <Beldar> spearhead, you can run a reset, however a reboot is generally used to finalize it, look up unity/compiz reset for your release.
[03:49] <Guest32007> Hello I am having a problem on Ubuntu with Amazon. I was able to remove it by using gksudo nautilus and going to /usr/share/applications to delete it. It has been gone for a while but now it is randomly back and I can't figure out how to get rid of it.
[03:49] <spearhead> Beldar: Ok thanks, by the way, what irc client do you use?
[03:49] <Beldar> Guest76162, The nomodeset link is just adding nomodeset to grub via hitting e for edit at the grub menu.
[03:50] <Beldar> spearhead, hexchat
[03:50] <pvl1> Guest32007 what Amazon? an app?
[03:50] <spearhead> Beldar: thx
[03:51] <Scroll_Tro0L> Hello!
[03:51] <Guest32007> pvl1, yes, if i type amazon in unity search it shows it as an app. I do not want it I had a hard time figuring out how to get rid of it the first time now i tried what i did before to get rid of it and it isn't there
[03:51] <Guest76162> Beldar: I'll give it a shot and return if it fails :D thanks!
[03:51] <Scroll_Tro0L> < Brand new Unix user
[03:51] <pvl1> hm
[03:51] <pvl1> !amazon
[03:51] <PebkacJones> hello
[03:52] <glitsj16> pvl1: if you don't do (or plan to do) mobile broadband it's safe to purge modemmanager yes
[03:52] <Draton> Beldar: pasted in pm
[03:52] <pvl1> Guest32007 have utried removing it through your package manager
[03:52] <pvl1> glitsj16 thank you
[03:52] <Guest32007> pvl1, it dont show
[03:53] <Draton> Beldar: the storage drives in ntfs were initialized in windows, which is why i assume the MBR is pointing to windows?
[03:53] <Beldar> spearhead, On my nexus 7 and htc dna I use andchat
[03:54] <pvl1> Guest32007 have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/363912/how-to-remove-amazon-and-ubuntu-one-music
[03:54] <Beldar> Draton, Should be if you have just the new ssd plugged in, I wonder if there is just boot stuff missing. In general I would not dd windows, but I don;t dd anything really.
[03:54] <Draton> hmm ok
[03:55] <spearhead> Beldar: I am actually using andchat right now on my GS4
[03:55] <Beldar> Draton, I just clone everything, I have ssd's and many IS all rather small so it is pretty fast.
[03:55] <Beldar> OS*
[03:56] <Beldar> spearhead, I like it for android.
[03:57] <Guest32007> pvl1, yes that is where i found the gksudo nautilus to get rid of amazon, and i was able to remove it and now its back and when i try using gksudo nautilus to remove it again it dont work.
[03:57] <Guest32007> pvl1, amazon is like a disease
[03:57] <Draton> Beldar: perhaps try clonezilla?
[03:57] <mjmac85_> I have a question about using acl to automatically set permissions for new files created
[03:58] <Burrito> Guest32007, maybe it's a package that needs to be removed? Maybe make a symlink to /dev/null in the file's place?
[03:58] <Guest32007> Burrito, idk what that means
[03:59] <Burrito> Guest32007, and by "don't work", what do you mean? Any error messages? Does it go away and then come back?
[03:59] <Guest32007> Burrito, oh it works fine i just dont want it. If i want to visit amazon ill go to amazon.com i just dont want it installed on my OS
[03:59] <Burrito> No, I mean when you try to remove it, what doesn't work?
[04:01] <Beldar> Draton, I use clonezilla and windows has a cloner, up to the pro version you get one image, pro and up unlimited, either will work fine.
 pvl1, yes that is where i found the gksudo nautilus to get rid of amazon, [...] i try using gksudo nautilus to remove it again it dont work.
[04:01] <Guest32007> Burrito, i cant find it anywhere when i try to remove it. If i right click on it it only gives the launch option instead of the uninstall option and when i use gksudo nautilys and navigate to /usr/share/applications amazon dont show in applications.
[04:01] <Beldar> Draton, Clonezilla saves the mbr the windows imager does not.
[04:02] <pvl1> Guest32007 gimme a few minutes I'm not at my computer
[04:02] <Guest32007> Burrito, ive had this issue before and was able to use gksudo nautilus to get rid of it, all of a sudden amazon is randomly back and i have no clue why and i cant get it off my system. pvl1 ok ill be here
[04:03] <Burrito> Guest32007, Unfortunately I haven't used Ubuntu in a while... Is Amazon just in Unity for you (the adverts), or has it taken over more of Ubuntu? If it's just in Unity, this command should still work: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[04:03] <pvl1> Guest32007 sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[04:03] <pvl1> oh
[04:04] <Burrito> and then restart unity like this. unity --replace &
[04:04] <pvl1> thanks Burrito
[04:04] <Burrito> (with the & on the end)
[04:04] <pvl1> sorry eagles just tied
[04:04] <Burrito> XD
[04:05] <Guest32007> pvl1, Burrito http://paste.ubuntu.com/6694918/
[04:06] <Burrito> :S
[04:06] <pvl1> Guest32007 throw a -f flag and try purge instead of remove
[04:07] <Guest32007> pvl1, how do i do that :) sorry im new
[04:07] <Burrito> sudo apt-get -f purge unity-lens-shopping
[04:07] <pvl1> thanks Burrito
[04:08] <Guest32007> pvl1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6694932/
[04:08] <Guest32007> Burrito, thank you for the command
[04:09] <Burrito> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/how-to-disable-amazon-shopping.html <-- That page suggests --> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope', 'more_suggestions-populartracks.scope', 'music-musicstore.scope', 'more_suggestions-ebay.scope', 'more_suggestions-ubuntushop.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope']"
[04:10] <Burrito> Apparently 13.10 has different rules.
[04:10] <Burrito> So you have to disable them as plugins and not packages, as detailed on that page :/
[04:10] <pvl1> sudo dpkg -r unity-lens-shopping
[04:10] <pvl1> or
[04:10] <pvl1> remove what it suggests
[04:11] <pvl1> or, get something other than unity
[04:13] <delt> Hello
[04:13] <delt> my X server is still executed with "-nolisten tcp" even if i removed that from /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[04:14] <delt> ... in the entire /etc directory, X11/xinit/xserverrc seems to be the only file that contains the phrase "nolisten tcp"
[04:14] <delt> well, contained
[04:14] <pvl1> why do u need to listen tcp
[04:14] <delt> so i can run apps directly from other hosts on my network
[04:15] <delt> using the $DISPLAY environment variable and tcp/ip
[04:15] <pvl1> ssh not an option?
[04:15] <delt> yeah, but i'd prefer to have tcp working as well
[04:16] <delt> and also, just knowing how this system is built =)
[04:16] <Guest32007> pvl1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6694956/ Im going to try disabling applications all together
[04:17] <pgnome> hello, can anyone help me with a Google Earth problem?
[04:17] <Cloud_Zephyr> nash
[04:17] <Cloud_Zephyr> oops
[04:17] <Beldar> pgnome, Maybe state the issues to the channel.
[04:17] <delt> pvl1: ...so, any idea?
[04:17] <pvl1> delt towards the bottom http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1642286
[04:18] <kyanonymous> how do I use proxies with this thing?
[04:18] <delt> pvl1: thanks, reading
[04:18] <schultza> What's the default M
[04:18] <schultza> What's the default MTA for ubuntu.
[04:18] <pvl1> delt basically said to edit session
[04:19] <kyanonymous> so
[04:19] <kyanonymous> how do i use this thing with proxies?
[04:19] <Beldar> schultza, I believe this is it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[04:19] <pvl1> Guest32007 why do u want to use unity, I recommend trying another desktop manager
[04:20] <pvl1> kyanonymous do u mean irc
[04:20] <schultza> pvl1: Everyone has their needs/wants/religious followings.
[04:20] <Beldar> kyanonymous, This thing?
[04:20] <kyanonymous> yes pvl1
[04:20] <kyanonymous> id like to connect to an irc with a false ip
[04:20] <Beldar> kyanonymous, register and get a cloak
[04:20] <pvl1> kyanonymous this is an ubuntu support channel
[04:21] <Guest32007> pvl1, i dont need unity on 13.10?
[04:21] <schultza> You mean, you would like to use a relay irc chat?
[04:21] <pgnome> trying to get GE to work but I have an error msg
[04:21] <pgnome> ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:21] <Guest32007> pvl1, i'd rather not use it honestly, after finding shopping stuff on it i find it kind of annoying.
[04:21] <kyanonymous> so where do I go to learn how to use irssi?
[04:21] <pvl1> Guest32007 correct, u don't. that's what is great about Linux
[04:21] <Guest32007> :D
[04:21] <Beldar> pgnome, use the full words, where did you install from, and what is the error?
[04:21] <schultza>  !irssi
[04:21] <pvl1> hm
[04:22] <pvl1> !window manager
[04:22] <pgnome> Beldar,  I followed all the correct instructions - from the website
[04:22] <schultza> !wm
[04:22] <pvl1> !wm
[04:22] <schultza> hmmm
[04:22] <pvl1> lol
[04:22] <schultza> !windowmanagers
[04:22] <pvl1> ah!
[04:22] <pgnome> I am using amd64 but multiarch is installed... ia32 libs is deprecated
[04:23] <pvl1> thanks schultza
[04:23] <schultza> pvl1: I try. :)
[04:23] <schultza> !MTA
[04:23] <pvl1> everyone hack him, he didn't proxy!
[04:23] <pgnome> I think it's a bug with google since they won't fix the conflict with libglu.so.1?
[04:23] <Beldar> pgnome, sure, I believe though that the latest from google will not run always, did you look around for google earth on ubuntu and the release you are running.
[04:23] <Guest32007> pvl1, how do i switch between different managers?
[04:23] <pvl1> !windowmanagers | Guest32007
[04:24] <schultza> pvl1: should one use a proxy for irc?
[04:24] <pvl1> yes absolutely schultza theres hackers lurking that have nothing better to hack than your firewalled, dynamic ip network
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:25] <Beldar> pgnome, Your using 14.04 as well so not really relevant on this channel.
[04:25] <pvl1> Guest32007 first pick and install one
[04:25] <schultza> Guest32007: First, you will need to make sure the others are installed. Then on the login screen, there is a button you can click to mark another GUI for use on login.
[04:25] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, mourning, ;)
[04:25] <Beldar> hehe
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: hello mate :p
[04:26] <pgnome> why does it matter?
[04:26] <Guest32007> schultza, awesome, so i can switch between what manager i want to use without having to install a whole new os? that sounds fantastic how do i get them?
[04:26] <Beldar> pgnome, Just a development is dealt with on #ubuntu+1 is all.
[04:26] <pgnome> it's giving the same error msg that it has since 12.04
[04:27] <Beldar> pgnome, Many if us are on both channels
[04:28] <schultza> Install them. For example, for kde. "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop" or something like that. I don't do this often, others will offer better help.
[04:29] <pvl1> Guest32007: if you want, private message me ill be here a while
[04:29] <Beldar> kubuntu-dektop
[04:29] <Beldar> desktop*
[04:29] <Geo> Hi, does anyone have any thoughts regarding using a Blue/Green WD HDD with mdadm in a RAID 5 configuration? I've seen arguments both for and against it, due to lacking TLER.
[04:29] <Geo> I've determined its not an issue on RAID0/1 setups, but can't figure out for sure on RAID 5
[04:29] <pvl1> Geo: blue is not recommended for raid
[04:30] <Geo> none of them are, because of TLER
[04:30] <Geo> but thats not necessarily true
[04:30] <Geo> which leads me back to the question
[04:31] <pvl1> Geo: you should ask in #hardware
[04:32] <Geo> thanks
[04:32] <pvl1> no problem Geo, sorry. but theyd help much more than i could for sure :)
[04:33] <Geo> :)
[04:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Unity now has workspace switching with ctl alt arrow disabled?
[04:37] <schultza> I'm back.
[04:38] <PublicStaticVoid> Everyone in my timezone is watching starwars mythbusters haha
[04:38] <PublicStaticVoid> geeks
[04:42] <PublicStaticVoid> Having wireless issues
[04:42] <PublicStaticVoid> anyways
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !details | PublicStaticVoid
[04:43] <PublicStaticVoid> Wasnt asking for help with wifi haha
[04:43] <PublicStaticVoid> Just explaining why I left a second ago
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> oh :p
[04:44] <PublicStaticVoid> I am asking however why ctrl alt arrow doesnt switch workspaces anymore?
[04:44] <PublicStaticVoid> Does it have to be enabled?
[04:45] <PublicStaticVoid> 1ping
[04:45] <PublicStaticVoid> !ping
[04:45] <PublicStaticVoid> Yey thought my connection was messed up already
[04:47] <PublicStaticVoid> Man it is dead in here
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !patience | PublicStaticVoid
[04:47] <PublicStaticVoid> Anyone.. Workspace switching in Unity.. seems to ave changed
[04:47] <pvl1> whats the question
[04:48] <PublicStaticVoid> Dude I am glad you can use the bot... Awesome..
[04:48] <schultza> For one getting started in MTAs, especially Exim, where should s/he begin?
[04:48] <delt> seems as soon as i run xrdb to load some (ooolllddd Xdefaults), it makes fonts in kde applications huge
[04:48] <delt> even if i just run xrdb with no input
[04:48] <schultza> !exim
[04:49] <schultza> !exim4
[04:49] <schultza> Well, now the bot is of no use.
[04:49] <schultza> Later guys.
[04:50] <Beldar> heh, the silent bot
[04:50] <PublicStaticVoid> schultza: Has multiple workspace switching been removed from Unity?
[04:50] <spearhead> PublicStaticVoid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83176/how-do-i-quickly-switch-between-workspaces-in-unity/283758#283758
[04:50] <PublicStaticVoid> spearhead: Thx
[04:50] <sampson623> I have a problem, when I try to run ubuntu on my virtual machine it gives me a error saying that it needs a x86-64 CPU but it only detects a i686 cpu and I have to find a kernel appropriate for my CPU. What should I do?
[04:51] <pvl1> sampson623: r you trying to run a 64 bit  os in a 32 bit vm
[04:51] <delt> sampson623: you probably downloaded the 64bit version when your VM emulates a 32bit machine
[04:51] <PublicStaticVoid> Use a 64bit vm...
[04:51] <sampson623> delt Ohh, that's probably it
[04:51] <sampson623> derp
[04:52] <delt> !xrdb
[04:52] <sgen> Hello all, Im having a problem scp'ing a file from my local machine to a vm running on my local machine. When I "scp ./testfile.txt user@1.2.3.4:/" I get the error:  scp: /testfile.txt: Permission denied. Does anyone know what could be causing this?
[04:52] <pvl1> sgen: file permissions...
[04:53] <pvl1> hm
[04:53] <pvl1> !chmod
[04:53] <pvl1> !chmod | sgen
[04:53] <rww> sgen: you're trying to upload a file to /testfile.txt. your normal user does not have permission to create files in /
[04:53] <pvl1> good call rww
[04:54] <sgen> isnt the directory relative to the user scp ssh's as?
[04:54] <rww> sgen: no
[04:54] <rww> sgen: if you want home directory, ~/testfile
[04:54] <sgen> nope
[04:54] <sgen> got it thanks!
[04:55] <sgen> That was the problem scp dir isnt relative I wanted :~/ thanks!
[04:56] <sampson623> I have Virtual Box 4.3.6 that should run 64 bit Ubuntu right?
[04:59] <pvl1> sampson623: your OS must be 64bit
[04:59] <PublicStaticVoid> sampson623: your host machine must be 64bit and you must configure the vm to run 64bit
[04:59] <PublicStaticVoid> should default to 64 if your host machine is 64bit
[05:00] <pvl1> your a 64bit
[05:02] <sampson623> My OS is 64 bit, how do I make VirtualBox run 64 bit? PublicStaticVoid
[05:02] <isyah> hello
[05:02] <isyah> how to install fribidi package on 12.04.. i tried sudo apt-get install fribidi...none...pls help
[05:03] <SierraAR> Hello! I'm looking at instructions to have tmux automatically run when I log into a shell, and they say to 'add the following line of bash code to your .bashrc before your aliases; the code for other shells is very similar:'. What part of .bashrc is the aliases? Are these the somename=somevalue lines?
[05:04] <PublicStaticVoid> weird they disabled Workspaces since 13.04
[05:04] <PublicStaticVoid> DUnno why on earth they would do that
[05:04] <PublicStaticVoid> Easy enough to reenable though
[05:04] <pvl1> PublicStaticVoid: i didnt know that, thats really weird, i agree
[05:05] <pvl1> sampson623: how did u check your os
[05:05] <PublicStaticVoid> Whats that?
[05:05] <PublicStaticVoid> Oh
[05:05] <maxh76> Hello, I have a porblem with installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, when the others are done being helped of course.
[05:05] <PublicStaticVoid> pvl1: They have been doing all sorts of weirf things lately
[05:05] <pvl1> isyah: what version ubuntu
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> maxh76: can you describe your problem?
[05:05] <pvl1> PublicStaticVoid: thats why i dont use unity
[05:05] <DrakkenWarr> what is the problem maxh76
[05:05] <PublicStaticVoid> Like making the decison to goto Gir instead of Wayland
[05:06] <isyah> pvl1: ubuntu 12.04
[05:06] <PublicStaticVoid> I am gunna be using Enlightenment 0.18 soon
[05:06] <spearhead> I just switched to GNOME 3.10 and I am liking it so fat
[05:06] <spearhead> far*
[05:06] <sampson623> I just went here (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827218) and it told me. Also I have a program files x86 folder.  @ pvl1
[05:06] <maxh76> I got this message after installing Ubuntu 12.04, there's a lot more to it. ONe second.
[05:06] <DrakkenWarr> enlightment is sexy as hell though
[05:06] <PublicStaticVoid> Since I have a touchscreen, and id like to actually take advantage of it
[05:06] <PublicStaticVoid> I hated Gnome 3
[05:06] <PublicStaticVoid> Looks so weird out of the box
[05:06] <maxh76> "bUG: unable to handle kernel pagin request at ff2b0022"
[05:06] <PublicStaticVoid> Wish it was a full DE though
[05:06] <PublicStaticVoid> instead of just a WM
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> PublicStaticVoid: please focus on ubuntu support mate
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[05:07] <pvl1> sampson623: you do realize your in an ubuntu support channel... but neverthe less try #vbox
[05:08] <PublicStaticVoid> lotuspsychje: Calm down.. its dead.. no one cares.. Let the Ops moderate, k?
[05:08] <sampson623> #vbox is dead :( @pvl1
[05:08] <SierraAR> Hm, let's try rephrasing my question xD
[05:08] <PublicStaticVoid> ##linux is never dead
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> PublicStaticVoid: this isnt about moderating, but about keeping space for support questions
[05:09] <maxh76> Whats your question SierraAR?
[05:09] <PublicStaticVoid> There is plenty of space
[05:09] <SierraAR> In ~/.bashrc, are the 'alias lines' the SOMENAME=somevalue lines?
[05:09] <MartynKeigher> hey all.. anyone pretty good with Ruby/Gems and Mysql??
[05:09] <PublicStaticVoid> Dont send anymore bot commands at me please and thank you.
[05:09] <MartynKeigher> i ahve asked about in the ruby and ruby gems room but its so quiet over there!
[05:09] <maxh76> Not sure, not on an ubuntu machine sadly.
[05:09] <SierraAR> In reference to the instructions given here for starting tmux on every shell login: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tmux#Start_tmux_on_every_shell_login
[05:09] <PublicStaticVoid> Try ##linux
[05:09] <SierraAR> Just not 100% sure on where exactly the code goes
[05:10] <pvl1> sampson623: PM me
[05:10] <maxh76> I am having troubles installing Ubuntuon my friends machine, I have it on mine but it's off and downstairs right now.
[05:10] <PublicStaticVoid> Would be simple if Ubuntu would switch to systemd
[05:11] <maxh76> Would any of you know about kernel paging bugs when installing Ubuntu?
[05:11] <pvl1> isyah: are you still here
[05:12] <spearhead> SierraAR: in your .bashrc there should be a little section towards the top which says something like # If not running interactively, don't do anything
[05:12] <PublicStaticVoid> Would it be difficult to make my Ubuntu use systemd?
[05:12] <spearhead> SierraAR: Put it directly after that section
[05:13] <SierraAR> spearhead: Alright, thanks
[05:13] <pvl1> !systemd
[05:13] <pvl1> PublicStaticVoid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[05:14] <spearhead> SierraAR: in mine it would look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6695134/
[05:14] <SierraAR> spearhead: http://pastebin.com/BWgFz9qn correct? Want to make sure I dont lock myself out of ssh
[05:16] <isyah> pvl1: yes... i am still here... can you help me on this?
[05:17] <PublicStaticVoid> pvl1: Thanks.. loks like its not a good idea
[05:17] <SierraAR> Awesome, it's working. Thanks
[05:17] <spearhead> SierraAR: np
[05:18] <SierraAR> Is there  away to have the default .bashrc thats created when adduser is run include that line of code?
[05:18] <pvl1> np PublicStaticVoid
[05:19] <pvl1> isyah: are you looking for http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/centerim-fribidi
[05:19] <pvl1> isyah: or are you looking to develop with the libraries for fribidi
[05:19] <SierraAR> Actually nevermind that last question, probably isnt the best idea
[05:19] <dalit> i want to power down my screen off if kept idle. how to do?
[05:20] <isyah> pvl1: i did try intall centrim-fribidi..show got error for mpv... no fribidi package
[05:20] <AiA> hey people.... this is something I have never had happend to me... I installed nvidia drivers to my system, and now whenever I press the play button on the minecraft launcher, X restarts (used to be the machine shuts down).... ANy thougts?
[05:20] <maxh76> Try making sure openJDK 7 and 6 are both installed.
[05:21] <pvl1> isyah: have you enabled the other repos?
[05:21] <maxh76> Try "sudo apt-get get update && sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get upgrade" to check all repositories, install new packages, and upgrade packages.
[05:21] <pvl1> !repos | isyah
[05:22] <isyah> pvl1: okay... let me try
[05:22] <spearhead> SierraAR: if you end up wanting to what you would need to do is change the default .bashrc file which is in /etc/skel/.bashrc I would recommend backing it up first though with sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /etc/skel/.bashrc.bk
[05:23] <SierraAR> spearhead: K, thanks
[05:23] <xangua> isyah: centrim-fribidi =/ centerim-fribidi
[05:23] <pvl1> ty xangua
[05:24] <isyah> xangua: centerim-fribidi
[05:25] <headpunter> I just put ubuntu onto my 2 year old laptop that has a nvidia optimus setup, i downloaded the driver from nvidia but it seems like it takes forever to install, (tried once, it failed), I am not sure i am doing it right
[05:25] <headpunter> (complete ubuntu noob)
[05:26] <BabaNK> hi all
[05:26] <BabaNK> i've upgrade ubuntu 14.04 (trusty)
[05:26] <pvl1> headpunter: any errors
[05:26] <BabaNK> now i cannot able to get into xwindows
[05:26] <pvl1> headpunter: can you describe how you are installing it
[05:26] <BabaNK> when i run startx only blank screen is appearing... without anything
[05:27] <BabaNK> tried to repair unity by reinstall unity and compiz
[05:27] <headpunter> pvl1, i just downloaded the driver from nvidia and double clicked it
[05:27] <BabaNK> can anybody help me?
[05:27] <headpunter> it was a .run file
[05:27] <g1> Hi.How to login in terminal not the graphic desktop  when PC boot every time?
[05:27] <Scott_S> Alright, folks, time to pick brains. Anyone had an issue where installing the latest Intel HD drivers causes 2D acceleration for Unity's dash to stop working properly?
[05:28] <AiA> headpunter, that file will make you wanna go ctrl, alt, f1 and shut down x and then install the driver...
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> 14.04 | BabaNK
[05:28] <headpunter> pvl1, ok
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !14.04 | BabaNK
[05:29] <pvl1> thanks AiA
[05:29] <robierob> hey i am interested in a terminal login as well..
[05:29] <pvl1> g1 ctrl+alt+F1
[05:30] <AiA> i just did that myself, but now it seems I cannot play minecraft:D
[05:30] <robierob> you got minecraft working on ubuntu?
[05:30] <Scott_S> If we're talking about installing Nvidia/AMD drivers, installing via apt-get doesn't require you to shut down x.
[05:30] <Scott_S> Also, use openjdk-7-jre instead of openjdk-6-jre.
[05:30] <g1> My memry used is always 99%,when I ctrl+alt+F1 ,the  unity-greeter process is not disapear
[05:30] <AiA> funny story... it's java, so really shouldn't be a problem
[05:30] <isyah> pvl1: xangua :E: Unable to locate package fribidi
[05:31] <robierob> realy how?
[05:31] <AiA> you download it of the site, and double click the minercaft.jar
[05:31] <isyah> pvl1: xangua : i have updated the repo as well
[05:31] <AiA> that will make your pc start the launcher
[05:32] <pvl1> g1 thats probably not unity-greeter. but you could just close it. sudo service gdm stop
[05:32] <robierob> linux ubuntu?
[05:32] <AiA> yes robierob
[05:32] <robierob> aia: seriously no fucking with me?
[05:32] <AiA> make sure you have java installed first...
[05:32] <robierob> ok there we go how do i do that?
[05:32] <AiA> no robierob... why would I fuck with you?
[05:33] <robierob> lol
[05:33] <Scott_S> robierob, open the terminal " sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre"
[05:33] <Beldar> !language
[05:33] <AiA> sorry...
[05:33] <robierob> lol ok just a sek
[05:33] <robierob> sorry
[05:33] <headpunter> what do i search for in apt-get for the nvidia drivers
[05:34] <Scott_S> headpunter, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[05:34] <pvl1> isyah: i think your best bet is to build from source
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current | HeadlessDan
[05:34] <robierob> ok i got it
[05:34] <g1> pvl1:gdm: unrecognized service. Can I login as terminal by default?
[05:34] <AiA> then you download minecratf...
[05:34] <pvl1> isyah: http://fribidi.org/
[05:34] <AiA> use the .jar file...
[05:34] <robierob> is this a version i can just single player...
[05:34] <robierob> ok
[05:34] <headpunter> Scott_S, i am loving this apt-get stuff more and more
[05:35] <maxh76> You also have to set the Minecraft.jar as exuctable.
[05:35] <AiA> this is the client of minecraft... like any other client...
[05:35] <robierob> ? ok you go me
[05:35] <pvl1> g1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76543/how-do-i-disable-gdm-and-graphical-user-selection
[05:35] <Scott_S> headpunter, aptitude is your best friend if you're not well-versed with linux.
[05:35] <robierob> how
[05:35] <robierob> right click
[05:35] <AiA> you may play on a server if you feel like it
[05:35] <maxh76> AiA, do you have minecraft working?
[05:35] <robierob> slow down your blowing my mind
[05:35] <robierob> lol
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> AiA: plz keep this channel for ubuntu support only
[05:35] <isyah> pvl1: okay... thanks
[05:35] <Scott_S> !offtopic | AiA
[05:36] <maxh76> AiA, Check your nVidia driver version.
[05:36] <pvl1> isyah: come back if you need help compiling
[05:36] <AiA> I had... until it made my x crash when I hit the play button, after I fiddeled with thte drivers
[05:36] <AiA> 331.20 atm... the one of nvidia site...
[05:37] <AiA> next step for me is deleting that, removing it...
[05:37] <pvl1> AiA: ive had better luck with the version previous
[05:37] <pvl1> 325.whatever
[05:37] <headpunter> does nvidida optimus work in linux?
[05:37] <maxh76> 'sudo apt-get get update' thenn 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-319*' yes to the prompts. You might want to uninstall nvidia first. 'sudo apt-get uninstall nvidia-*' make sure you're in a TTY before that, and reinstall 'ubuntu-desktop'
[05:37] <pvl1> AiA: what is the problem
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !optimus | HeadlessDan
[05:38] <AiA> can I just download that, and install it like the other, or do I need to do something omnious to the driver?
[05:38] <maxh76> Well, installing it from the Nvidia website isn't as good.
[05:38] <maxh76> That's probably why it broke.
[05:38] <pvl1> maxh76: why not
[05:38] <pvl1> why wouldnt the manufacturers drivers be optimal
[05:38] <maxh76> You need to install Ubuntu's nvidia drivers, that should be better.
[05:39] <maxh76> Well, you don't need to.
[05:39] <robierob> AiA: whats the file location for minecraft in the file tree?
[05:39] <maxh76> I've heard people installing from the manufacturer and it didn't work well. Ubuntu's nvidia drivers are open source and seem to work better as well
[05:40] <maxh76> You can go into the additional drivers utility and activate the recommended nvidia drivers. 319, I believe.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> headpunter: that link was for you mate
[05:40] <pvl1> maxh76: no what youve heard is that compiling didnt work well. when you bite the bullet and go through the effort to actually install it, its better, bc it compiles for your system
[05:40] <maxh76> pv11: oh, okay. So installing from ubuntu's repos for nvidia drivers doesn't compile? I'm a bit confused.
[05:41] <pvl1> maxh76: the open source ones are just easier to install
[05:41] <pvl1> maxh76: not exactly. the repos one is modified, after all its open source
[05:41] <maxh76> pv11: Okay, so the one's from the manufacturer are better?
[05:41] <pvl1> and the open source community, unless its willing to reverse engineer expensive gpu chips isnt able to develop the same driver that the manuf. can
[05:41] <pvl1> yes.
[05:41] <pvl1> they are definetly better
[05:42] <pvl1> they are the ones that made the technology in the first place
[05:42] <headpunter> thanks lotuspsychje
[05:42] <pvl1> thats why even when your on windows, you prefer the actual driver, over whatever windows supplies
[05:42] <maxh76> Maybe I'll try installing those, wonder how much that would up my performance. Although I have a nvidia 204 card, so it's pretty old..
[05:43] <maxh76> Well, yea that's true. But ubuntu, linux in itself actually, is much different from the perspective. Some open-source drivers for some tools are better then the proprietary ones.
[05:43] <pvl1> maxh76: the performance difference is usually for newer cards.
[05:44] <pvl1> maxh76: i havent neccessarily seen it, but i wont disspute it. its just when it comes to things like gpu's, its the manufacturer thats best
[05:45] <Scott_S> !offtopic | maxh76 pvl1
[05:45] <maxh76> I understand now, before I thought that the proprietary nvidia drivers were worse than ubuntu's ope source ones.
[05:45] <pvl1> lol sorry, rant
[05:45] <maxh76> Right, off topic. Sorry guys.
[05:45] <maxh76> pv11: I do have a question with an ubuntu install on my friend's machine.
[05:45] <phutchins> anyone having issues install ruby2.0.0p247 on ubuntu 13.10 via rvm?
[05:45] <pvl1> maxh76: whats up
[05:46] <Scott_S> Ubuntu uses a repository from Nvidia, the drivers are the same, the repository simply has drivers that are easier to install. They aren't guaranteed to be the latest. /info
[05:46] <pvl1> Scott_S: does that mean that they compile upon installation
[05:47] <maxh76> I get 'BUG: unable to handle kernel paging error at ff2b0022'
[05:47] <pvl1> maxh76: while its installing?
[05:47] <phutchins> Getting 404's on doing the rvm install...
[05:47] <phutchins> The requested url does not exist(22): 'http://cache.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/./ruby-2.0.0p247.tar.bz2'
[05:47] <Scott_S> pvl1, Well, there are a few things it has to compile. You may have noticed it generates a boot image when it installs and uses the nouveau server for 3d acceleration.
[05:47] <maxh76> pv11: After the install, it installs fine. But then when I turn it back on, that's what happens.
[05:48] <peyam> maxh76, bad made image. during instalation = Download again and make cd
[05:48] <pvl1> Scott_S: is nvidia still the module?
[05:48] <maxh76> Oh, okay. That seems like an easy solution.
[05:48] <Scott_S> pvl1, Let's go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <maxh76> What would I do if that doesn't work?
[05:48] <pvl1> Scott_S: yes sure
[05:48] <peyam> maxh76, come bac here
[05:49] <peyam> maxh76, be aware of what ubuntu u download, 64 or 86
[05:49] <maxh76> peyam: alright, thanks for the help. I have to go to sleep now. Been stalling.
[05:49] <maxh76> i386
[05:49] <peyam> goo
[05:49] <peyam> d
[05:49] <peyam> go sleep
[05:49] <maxh76> I shall, goodnight.
[05:49] <maxh76> sleep well everyone, have a great day/night.
[05:56] <schone> hello
[05:56] <schone> has anyone been successful getting any ubuntu ver on a USB stick to work on a macbook air with persistence???
[05:57] <peyam> schone, do you make the usb in mac ? or other os?
[05:57] <schone> make it on a mac
[05:57] <schone> I've tried it making it in ubuntu too... but obi that has no uefi boot so it didn't work at all
[05:57] <peyam> use virtuel box
[05:58] <peyam> I dunno..  never owned a mac
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !mac | schone
[05:59] <schone> lotuspsychje: my air version doesn't show up there
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> schone: did you change bios to usb first boot?
[06:00] <rww> it's a Mac, it doesn't have BIOS
[06:00] <peyam> haha, I dont get that mac
[06:01] <peyam> always a pain in the as
[06:01] <spearhead> if I remember right you have to hold a key down on boot to select usb maybe "c"?
[06:02] <headpunter>  is the main thing holding more games from coming to linux just that there isn't a directx replacement?
[06:03] <schone> the problem is that i want persistence
[06:03] <schone> and that for some reason is unachievable task
[06:03] <rww> headpunter: ... OpenGL?
[06:03] <pvl1> headpunter: that and its a smaller market
[06:03] <schone> I've tried unetbootin (which creates an unbootable usb stick)
[06:03] <schone> I've tried others that don't offer the persistent drive
[06:03] <pvl1> headpunter: most PC gamers probably run windows
[06:03] <schone> and they work
[06:03] <Beldar> schone, a persistent has limitations
[06:03] <schone> but again i need persistence on the free space left on that usb
[06:04] <schone> Beldar: i can live with limitations... as long as i have some persistence
[06:04] <Beldar> schone, a casper-rw named partition will give you it.
[06:04] <schone> how can I create one for an already packaged ISO file?
[06:04] <spearhead> schone: if you create the usb startup disk in Ubuntu with Startup Disk Creator it has the option to create a persistance file using the remaining space on the usb drive
[06:04] <headpunter> while i realize a lot of games can run opengl, most games for windows are still in directx
[06:04] <schone> cause thats what pinguintosh creates for me
[06:04] <idaniel> I just downloaded all the "pipeline" with the included wine stuff so that I can watch netflix and it isn't working at all.
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> headpunter: try askin in #ubuntu-offtopic mate
[06:05] <schone> spearhead: I've done that... but ubuntu creates a non UEFI boot loader ...
[06:05] <Beldar> schone, HOw big is the usb?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !netflix | idaniel
[06:05] <schone> is there a way to get what ubuntu created to work with Mac's UEFI boot
[06:05] <schone> Beldar: 8gb
[06:05] <headpunter> I got everything working that i needed to, thanks for the help #ubuntu
[06:06] <idaniel> o.k. thanks!
[06:06] <Beldar> schone, You can have one 1 gig partition for the iso, and a second that is the casper-rw, the persistent, however doing this in a apple I have no idea.
[06:06] <schone> Beldar: thats my problem... in apple
[06:07] <Beldar> schone, I suspect it is easily possible, just a little research is needed, this is ubuntu, not ubuntu on apple computers support. ;)
[06:07]  * satellit_e VirtualBox? works on my MacBookPro
[06:07] <schone> Beldar: thx neways
[06:08] <schone> satellit_e: i'd like it without a virtualization if i could....
[06:08] <spearhead> schone: you could try this option I cant vouch for it though  http://applescript.wonderhowto.com/how-to/boot-ubuntu-macbook-from-usb-0128013/
[06:08] <Beldar> I would use apple if someone gave me one, but a purchase is unlikely for me.
[06:09] <spearhead> me too, great hardware... just too expensive
[06:09] <satellit_e> understood....apple makes so many different drivers....very hard to get the right ones working thus sugesstion
[06:10] <schone> maybe i should ask it differently
[06:10] <Scroll_Tro0L> Any recommendations for a VM for windows?
[06:10] <schone> i have a 12.04 installation turned into an IMG file
[06:10] <schone> is there any way i can add a casper-rw to it postfact
[06:10] <schone> ?
[06:10] <varunendra> schone, are you able to boot the macbook from USB (Ubuntu Live) ?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> Scroll_Tro0L: ##windows
[06:10] <Scroll_Tro0L> I mean for running windows on ubuntu
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> Scroll_Tro0L: or you want run windows from ubuntu?
[06:11] <Scroll_Tro0L> Yes, that.
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> Scroll_Tro0L: virtualbox
[06:11] <Scroll_Tro0L> I'm brand new to unix
[06:11] <schone> varunendra: yes... with 12.04 i am.  But its packed into the USB stick as an ISO file
[06:11] <satellit_e> only server works I think
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox | Scroll_Tro0L
[06:11] <Scroll_Tro0L> Like I said, I'm totaly new, so please bear with me. Should I make a new user for VM installation?
[06:12] <Scroll_Tro0L> And which folder should I be tossing this dl file into and installing it?
[06:12] <varunendra> schone, can you get to Ubuntu's advance boot menu while booting from that?
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> Scroll_Tro0L: after virtualbox install you can install any Os on it
[06:12] <schone> varunendra: not sure i know what u mean by that
[06:12] <satellit_e> and export the appliance to any other OS -
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Scroll_Tro0L: after install virtualbox, every ubuntu user can manage his own virtualx Os sessions
[06:13] <varunendra> schone, the third picture on this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[06:13] <spearhead> ScrollTro0L: you don't need to create another user and you should be able to install virtual box from ubuntu software center
[06:13] <schone> varunendra: no i cannot
[06:13] <schone> but i do have an option to add the persistent keyword to the boot options
[06:13] <schone> not sure where it adds it tho
[06:13] <Scroll_Tro0L> lotuspsychje, K. I just copy/pasted something for the repo.
[06:13] <Scroll_Tro0L> Per ubuntu website instructions
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Scroll_Tro0L: you can find it in software centre like spearhead sugested
[06:14] <Scroll_Tro0L> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/Installation
[06:14] <Scroll_Tro0L> Using this
[06:15] <varunendra> schone, normally it depends which bootloader you are using. In live USB it is usually "syslinux", in an optical media it is "isolinux". Not sure if it can be something else on a mac supported app.
[06:15] <satellit_e> this is 11.04 LTS on a PC with VirtualBox installed.
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> satellit_e: 11.04 is eol
[06:15] <schone> varunendra: lets suppose its loads the kernel fine, how can I add an rw filesystem to it post fact
[06:15] <schone> after its been created
[06:15] <satellit_e> 12.04 LTS sorry
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> satellit_e: :p
[06:16] <Scroll_Tro0L> I'm using 12.04
[06:16] <Scroll_Tro0L> NOt 13
[06:16] <Scroll_Tro0L> Not*
[06:16]  * satellit_e (actually Linux Mint 13 cinnamon)
[06:16] <rww> !mintsupport
[06:17] <rww> oh, nvm. my bad
[06:17] <sina_t> Hey guys
[06:17] <varunendra> schone, to be honest, I'm not sure about that, but I can tell it would be more complex than it needs to be. Probably you'd have to create a rw duplicate of the filesystem (or keep it ready somewhere), then 'chroot' into it. But like I said, I'm not sure if it would work as expected.
[06:18] <schone> got ya
[06:18] <sina_t> who can help me for SNMP ??
[06:18] <schone> ok thanks!
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> !details | sina_t
[06:19] <sina_t> OK, I want to add some MIBs to my new snmp intsalled, so I downloaded and put it in the right place but it's not work as good
[06:20] <Scroll_Tro0L> So once this is all setup, all the instructions I see are for gui version of ubuntu. Does the server version come with a desktop pre-installed or would I need to install it seperately?
[06:22] <varunendra> schone, which program are you using to boot the ISO? Does it create a "syslinux.cfg" file?
[06:22] <schone> no
[06:23] <schone> its create a uefi boot
[06:23] <thom_r> How do I change file permissions? Owner is root, so I can't delete pictures from a certain file.
[06:25] <fego> thom_r: look for the chmod command.
[06:26] <thom_r> can you give me more details than that
[06:26] <fego> chmod 777 filename
[06:27] <fego> the above commands makes a file read, write and executable to the world.
[06:27] <fego> it is still a very versatile command.
[06:27] <satellit_e> gksu imagewriter in mint 13 makes bootable USB sticks will it work with UEFI?
[06:30] <varunendra> schone, if you could get the advance boot menu somehow, it would have been fairly easy. But it seems you should also be able to add the "persistence" flag in the isolinux/txt.cfg file within the ISO. Maybe use "ISOmaster" to replace that file and see if it helps
[06:30] <hkr> hi
[06:32] <pvl1> hello
[06:34] <hkr> how do I install ubuntu alongside windows in such a way that I can erase the ubuntu partition anytime and have windows working ?
[06:34] <ianorlin> you can get them both working in a dualboot
[06:34] <ianorlin> and choose when you boot
[06:35] <pvl1> wait
[06:35] <hkr> yes. ianorlin
[06:35] <varunendra> hkr, which version of Windows? EFI booting or traditional MBR based?
[06:35] <pvl1> !grub | hkr
[06:35] <hkr> I have EFI bios but windows seems to be installed as MBR :\
[06:35] <pvl1> hkr: it works the other way around tho
[06:36] <hkr> what do you mean pvl1 ?
[06:36] <hkr> I can install grub again after removing linux ?
[06:36] <pvl1> hkr: thats the point
[06:36] <pvl1> if you remove grub
[06:36] <varunendra> hkr, as far as I know, you can't boot an MBR based setup when EFI is enabled in BIOS.
[06:36] <pvl1> you remove your bootloader, and cant get windows.
[06:37] <pvl1> !wubi | hkr
[06:37] <hkr> varunendra:I have "both uefi and legacy" option enabled in bios
[06:38] <hkr> pvl1: so how do i stop the grub from getting removed while deleting ubuntu ?
[06:38] <Scroll_Tro0L> My host has a custom kernel of ubuntu installed that's messing with the vbox install, can I change to another kernel with my current install or do I need to wipe?
[06:39] <varunendra> hkr, If using Windows Vista or higher, you can use EasyBCD program (in windows) to boot Ubuntu. But if it is a GPT based partition scheme, simply delete the Ubuntu partition and keep using Windows. Grub won't affect the booting in that case.
[06:39] <pvl1> hkr: put it in another partition, or there might be a different bootloader you can load
[06:39] <pvl1> do that ^^^
[06:39] <hkr> pvl1:you mean VBR or PBR ?
[06:40] <hkr> varunendra:why doesnt grub affect booting in GPT ?
[06:40] <pvl1> hkr: not sure what you mean. i think varunendra will be able to help you better than i
[06:40] <varunendra> hkr, because it gets installed in PBR, not MBR (there is nothing like MBR at all in the GPT scheme)
[06:41] <hkr> okay... so if i use gpt i can use windows boot manager as the default bootloader too, varunendra?
[06:41] <sampson623_> I have a problem, when I try to enable amd-v I go into the BIOS but I cant see where I could enable it. I have Uefi bios but I go into my BIOS setup
[06:42] <varunendra> hkr, I haven't used EFI based booting myself yet, but I believe it provides its own boot menu, not that of Windows or Ubuntu or any other OS installed.
[06:42] <hkr> okay thanks a lot varunendra :D
[06:43] <varunendra> np :)
[06:43] <dixoncx> Installed and set admin pass for ntop. how to start ntop ? i got error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6695395/
[06:43] <varunendra> hkr, one more thing, if it is an MBR based setup, just choose to install Grub on the Partition (not MBR), then in windows, use EasyBCD to add Ubuntu to Windows boot menu
[06:44] <pvl1> dixoncx: perhaps sudo service ntop start
[06:44] <thom_r> I have tried several options to delete the folder. It keeps telling me No such file or directory.
[06:44] <pvl1> thom_r: maybe you already deleted it
[06:44] <hkr> varunendra: So will grub show up at boot or will the windows boot manager come up ?
[06:44] <thom_r> nope, still there
[06:44] <pvl1> what folder
[06:45] <dixoncx> pvl1, nope. but sudo ntop works.
[06:45] <sampson623_> can anyone help?
[06:45] <thom_r> ViberDownloads
[06:45] <varunendra> hkr, in the EasyBCD method, it'll be Windows Boot menu
[06:45] <pvl1> dixoncx: what happens when you run that command
[06:45] <thom_r> I just want to change the permissions from root to user
[06:45] <hkr> Okay. Thanks a lot :D
[06:46] <Beldar> dixoncx, The manpage may help. http://www.ntop.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ntop-man.html
[06:46] <varunendra> hkr, but perhaps you'll get (if you wish) the Grub menu too after choosing "Ubuntu" from Windows menu
[06:46] <pvl1> thom_r: chown -R user:group EXACT/PATH which i feel is probably /home/Viber/Downloads
[06:46] <thom_r> it's actually in documents
[06:46] <hkr> okay
[06:46] <hkr> thanks a lot, varunendra
[06:46] <thom_r> but I will try that
[06:46] <pvl1> thom_r: Documents
[06:46] <pvl1> D not d
[06:47] <thom_r> ok
[06:47] <hkr> I will get grub after choosing linux from the windows boot menu. I think ive seen it in a lot of places.
[06:47] <varunendra> hkr, you're welcome :)
[06:47] <varunendra> yup
[06:48] <thom_r> ok, it came back with invalid group
[06:49] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> can you get ubuntu as a dvd?
[06:49] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ?
[06:49] <hkr> yes you need to buy it
[06:49] <thom_r> pvl1, can you give me an example of what to put for user:group?
[06:50] <hkr> Angel_Of_Sorrow: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[06:51] <pvl1> thom_r your username
[06:51] <pvl1> thom_r: you can change just user
[06:52] <thom_r> so thom:group for example?
[06:52] <pvl1> thom_r: just thom
[06:52] <pvl1> no :group
[06:52] <thom_r> ok, gotcha
[06:53] <thom_r> thank you
[06:53] <pvl1> no problem
[06:53] <thom_r> that returns no such file or directory
[06:54] <pvl1> thom_r: can i see your command please
[06:54] <thom_r> chown -R thom /home/Documents/ViberDownloads
[06:54] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> can you get ubuntu as a dvd? that link proved inconclusive
[06:54] <pvl1> !/home
[06:55] <thom_r> !/home/Documents/ViberDownloads ?
[06:56] <pvl1> thom_r: your home dir is split up by user names. its never /home/Documents by default, its /home/user/Documents which is probably /home/thom/Documents since you are in fact thom
[06:56] <pvl1> thom_r: furthermore, learn to use tab completion in the terminal. write /home/ and hit tab twice
[06:56] <pvl1> hm
[06:56] <pvl1> !tab completion
[06:57] <pvl1> nope
[06:58] <thom_r> chown: changing ownership of ‘/home/thom/Documents/ViberDownloads/3f99f55b524d2a65251f5f136ebe94ff5175f1ef6262926a745fde3b5da5c0ad.jpg’: Operation not permitted
[06:58] <thom_r> . That is what I'm getting now
[06:59] <pvl1> thom_r: excellent! you learned somethings. get used to using tab compleition, much convenient. anyways. put sudo in front of that
[06:59] <thom_r> ok
[06:59] <satellit_e> can you copy paste it to your /home ?  (that will give a copy with our permissions
[06:59] <satellit_e> your*
[07:00] <thom_r> that worked, AWESOME
[07:00] <thom_r> thank you so much
[07:00] <pvl1> satellit_e: if its readable by you i guess so
[07:01] <pvl1> no problem thom_r
[07:03] <thom_r> pvl1, you are wizard in the Linux world.
[07:05] <pvl1> nope
[07:05] <rich> where is the LXLE channel?
[07:05] <pvl1> thom_r: just been using it a while thats all
[07:05] <pvl1> rich do u mean #lxde
[07:05] <ianorlin> !list
[07:05] <ianorlin> although not sure there is one
[07:05] <pvl1> its on efnet
[07:06] <pvl1> i think
[07:06] <llutz> !alis | rich
[07:06] <ianorlin> it uses lxde but is different
[07:06] <pvl1> oftc
[07:06] <rich> no, lxle - its Lubuntu 12.04 with LXDE. its a new distro... LE=life extension - lol
[07:06] <pvl1> so really its just #lubuntu
[07:06] <pvl1> thom_r: whyd ya ask
[07:06] <ianorlin> with other stuff added
[07:06] <rich> yes, just a lot fancier
[07:07] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> what does the following mean - i am getting a dvd where -The entire oss, non-oss, and packman repositories + all updates and security fixes come with the package
[07:07] <thom_r> ask what?
[07:07] <llutz> Angel_Of_Sorrow: how is that ubuntu-related?
[07:08] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> thats what i want to know
[07:08] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> what are packman repositories?
[07:08] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> is that for mythtv?
[07:08] <pvl1> rich: how is it fancier im interested now
[07:08] <bhavesh> Angel_Of_Sorrow: "pacman" is from Arch Linux, not realted to Ubuntu.
[07:08] <Scroll_Tro0L> I have no modules folder in proc and I don't have permissions to make it. Any way to make the folder without messing with kernel?
[07:08] <pvl1> Angel_Of_Sorrow: why dont you just download it and burn it
[07:08] <pvl1> or make a usb
[07:08] <PebkacJones> hai
[07:09] <rich> .lemme find the URL to their site, then you can check it out for yourself
[07:09] <pvl1> !modules
[07:09] <pvl1> thanks rich
[07:10] <rich> its: www.lxle.net - I love it. I found regular Lubuntu had a very boring desktop. This rocks
[07:11] <bhavesh> Angel_Of_Sorrow: this might help you for making your own Ubutnu DVD : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[07:11] <rich> its good for old PC's like mine :)
[07:11] <ianorlin> unless your dvd burner was broken
[07:11] <pvl1> ianorlin: usb!!
[07:11] <roger_> hey
[07:12] <pvl1> rich: i like
[07:13] <rich> It's great! brings eye candy to LXDE
[07:13] <roger_> hey can anyone help me pls
[07:13] <pvl1> we can all try roger_
[07:15] <rich> alis lxle
[07:15] <rich> !alis lxle
[07:15] <rww> it's lxde
[07:15] <ianorlin> no lxle is another distro
[07:15] <rww> oh
[07:15] <rich> geez i've forgotten how to use IRC... its been almost 10 yrs !
[07:15] <rww> silly name
[07:16] <roger_> hey who said u can help me
[07:16] <pvl1> roger_: whats your problem
[07:16] <rich> how do I invoke alis?
[07:16] <roger_> well
[07:16] <roger_> should i pm u
[07:16] <llutz> !alis | rich
[07:16] <thom_r> roger_ what seems to be your problem?
[07:16] <pvl1> roger_: you can ask here, well all try to help together
[07:16] <roger_> the fn key on my laptop only work if i suspend then resume
[07:17] <roger_> after boot on
[07:17] <rich> !alis | lxle
[07:17] <roger_> and i want to know how i can make them work straight off the bat
[07:17] <varunendra> roger_, what brand/model the laptop is ? And is it just some particular function or all the combinations with the Fn key?
[07:17] <llutz> rich: "Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*"  so hard?
[07:19] <rich> .thanks llutz
[07:21] <rich> if I install regular Ubuntu do I have to accept the Unity DE? I d/l'd the "live" DVD and the only choice it booted to was  Unity.
[07:22] <roger_> varunendra, brand is vaio and some fn keys work before resume but not all
[07:22] <pvl1> rich: after installing you can pick another
[07:22] <pvl1> !windowmanagers | rich
[07:23] <rich> .cool, thanks
[07:23] <varunendra> roger_, which ones are not working? And what is the output of "lsmod | grep wmi" ?
[07:24] <rich> So if Ubuntu allows you to install an LXDE desktop, then what is the different between Ubuntu and Lubuntu?
[07:24] <thom_r> !flavors
[07:24] <roger_> varunendra, i dont know ur stupid man
[07:25] <roger_> varunendra, im talking about suspend and resume
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !language | roger_
[07:25] <roger_> varunendra, its working but only after resume from suspend
[07:25] <roger_> ok relax
[07:25] <roger_> i am too stone anyway
[07:26] <thom_r> rich, Lubuntu comes with LXDE by default.
[07:26] <rich> right, I get that, but are the internals of Lubuntu different that Ubuntu?
[07:26] <roger_> sorry
[07:27] <Beldar> rich, look on the web for the intrinsic details they are just different desktops.
[07:27] <rich> are the messages I'm getting in "red" private messages?
[07:28] <thom_r> rich, no
[07:28] <rich> (it's been a long time since i've used IRC_
[07:28] <thom_r> those are directed towards you
[07:28] <rich> .cool feature
[07:28] <thom_r> when you type someones name, it will show up to them in red
[07:28] <rich> thom_r so this message is in red for you?
[07:28] <thom_r> yes
[07:28] <rich> .ok lol
[07:33] <rich> the ubottu bot is incredible. They are parsing my questions and sending me answers! Never saw an IRC bot do that before (in 2002 anyway).
[07:37] <SaberX01>  |less
[07:38] <Scroll_Tro0L> For Vbox, when setting the ostype, how important is it to match the exact OS?
[07:39] <Scroll_Tro0L> Can I leave it as other or the closest OS?
[07:40] <rww> Scroll_Tro0L: iirc it just changes default settings
[07:41] <Beldar> Scroll_Tro0L, Might help you to know there is a #vbox channel as well if needed.
[07:41] <Scroll_Tro0L> Wilco, thanks.
[07:52] <Scroll_Tro0L> What is the equivalent of pf.conf from freebsd in ubuntu?
[07:53] <Scroll_Tro0L> It's all the port forwarding rules
[07:54] <Hitman> Is trolling art of lulz?
[07:55] <Hitman> Sorry fail
[08:18] <kubanc> helllow! I have a problem. My USB keyboard doesnt work in tty-virtual terminal
[08:19] <PublicStaticVoid> Virtual?
[08:20] <PublicStaticVoid> Do you mean the tty that come up when you press ctr alt Fn?
[08:20] <PublicStaticVoid> comes
[08:20] <kubanc> PublicStaticVoid, tty1 when i press ctrl+alt+F1
[08:21] <PublicStaticVoid> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUSBKeyboard
[08:21] <PublicStaticVoid> pastebin your lsusb please
[08:22] <kubanc> PublicStaticVoid, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6695697/
[08:24] <PublicStaticVoid> kubanc: is it a wireless mouse/keyboard combo?
[08:24] <PublicStaticVoid> Logitech?
[08:25] <PublicStaticVoid> brb
[08:26] <luyen> hello every on
[08:26] <luyen> i have a question
[08:29] <chuanfoo> so many people
[08:30] <luyen> i set up ubuntu 12.04
[08:30] <luyen> i can see my wifi and acess to my wifi
[08:31] <chuanfoo> ohh
[08:31] <luyen> but only 2 minute, it dis and don't show any thing
[08:31] <luyen> sorry for my ES >.<
[08:32] <chuanfoo> you can baidu or goolge
[08:32] <luyen> and other problem
[08:33] <luyen> I can't install "wine" software center
[08:34] <chuanfoo> why
[08:34] <lolcat> Hello
[08:34] <lolcat> where are the ubuntu coders?
[08:34] <chuanfoo> sorry ,i'm new
[08:35] <luyen> it's showa error : The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:35] <luyen> wine1.4: PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2~) but 1.16.12ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:35] <luyen>          Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.17-93ubuntu4 is to be installed
[08:35] <luyen>          Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu7) but 1.4.1-0ubuntu7 is to be installed
[08:35] <luyen>          Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu7) but it is a virtual package
[08:35] <FloodBot1> luyen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <chuanfoo> luyen you should install the dependencies first
[08:38] <luyen> how can i do it? i'm just use linux in short time
[08:44] <helmut_> hi
[08:44] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ey
[08:44] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> my laptop has a 450gig C:Drive, and a 50gig D:Drive...i was told that the installer will offer the option to automatically install linux in the free space of the harddrive....most of that is in my huge  C:Drive. Will linux automatically partition and resize the C:Drive ?
[08:46] <thom_r> yes
[08:46] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> sh simplez
[08:46] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ah
[08:46] <thom_r> Angel_Of_Sorrow, what operating system do you currently have?
[08:47] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> windows xp
[08:47] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> nah
[08:48] <thom_r> ok, I'm assuming you have powerful enough hardware to run Ubuntu well. If not I would suggest Lubuntu, or Zorin Lite.
[08:49] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> i have 16gig of ram
[08:50] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> do all linux's have that auto partition installation option?
[08:50] <llutz> Angel_Of_Sorrow: no
[08:52] <thom_r> you should be fine with Ubuntu then
[08:52] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> cool
[08:52] <kubanc> hellow! my USB logitech keyboard is not working in tty (ctrl+alt+F1). Any idea?
[08:53] <thom_r> I recommend 4 gigs for Ubuntu as a minimum.
[08:57] <PublicStaticVoid> I switched to te open source AMD Driver crashed and burned.. restrted to black screen had to use nomodeset to get a tty
[08:58] <PublicStaticVoid> How can I switch back to the binary driver from CLI now?
[08:58] <PublicStaticVoid> I think it is because I am using a very new Video chipset
[09:00] <PublicStaticVoid> Sorry if anyone answered I missed it
[09:00] <ties> Hello. I just accidently deleted the entire /home/me/Documents. I tried recovery via a usb with extundelete but receive the error message "638 recoverable inodes found. Looking through the directory structure for deleted files ...  638 recoverable inodes still lost. No files were undeleted.". Any suggestions^
[09:01] <llutz> ties: standard answer: recover from backup
[09:02] <knightshade> +1
[09:02] <llutz> ties: you may try photorec or similar tools but if they will have more success....
[09:02] <ties> tell llutz unfortunately I was in the process of eliminating unecessary files, and was just finished and about to copy them to a usb when I clicked "effacer" instead of "copier"
[09:03] <PublicStaticVoid> So for some reason when I switched from the binary AMD Driver to the Xorg open source driver I crashed and rebooted into a black screen. Had to use nomodeset kernel option just to get back to a tty
[09:03] <PublicStaticVoid> Could my chipset be to new for the open source driver?
[09:03] <llutz> ties: "clicked" so some GUI-acions? doesn't your gui has a trashbin to recover from?
[09:03] <PublicStaticVoid> also how can I switch back to the binary driver?
[09:05] <ties> llutz: well, I looked there, but it seems to me that they bypassed this folder and just "disappeared", kind of like with shift-del if I have understood correctly... If it helps, I am using xubuntu 12.04...
[09:06] <llutz> ties: shift-del removes files directly in most filemanagers afaik. so you're lost if you don't have a backup. i'd try photorec as a last resort
[09:07] <llutz> ties: and for the future you should think about some automatic backup-solutions. as you see, manual backups won't work
[09:08] <ties> llutz: ya.... I thought it would work out... but one wrong click and disaster strikes... darn....
[09:13] <MarkDavies> Hi
[09:13] <MarkDavies> How can I send a text in a form field using w3m? Simple Enter doesn't work.
[09:20] <PublicStaticVoid> I get this in Dmesg:
[09:20] <PublicStaticVoid> ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.VGA_.AF03]
[09:21] <PublicStaticVoid> and if I use the open source ATI/AMD Driver I get a black screen which responds t nothing..
[09:24] <Name141> Is 12.04 the latest LTS?
[09:24] <_polto_> anyone, I need to restore a 8.04 and install some packages. I did find the CD , but repositories listed in /etc/apt/sources.list  are no longer available. where can I find a mirror pls ?
[09:25] <_polto_> Name141, yes next will be in April.
[09:25] <Name141> _polto_: I think that one still has the ATi support for 4670 ?
[09:25] <Name141> As in ATi/AMD drivers?
[09:26] <PublicStaticVoid> I think 8400 just inst supported by the open source driver yet
[09:26] <kubanc> Hellow! Is it OK if I do sudo apt-get purge nvidia* and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ???
[09:26] <PublicStaticVoid> Is there some site that lists all the Video chipsets and their support and such?
[09:27] <_polto_> Name141, no idea.
[09:28] <Name141> _polto_: I guess  I don't really need acceloration less I am going to try Steam on the machine?
[09:28] <aeon-ltd> kubanc: are you just trying to reinstall?
[09:28] <_polto_> Name141, some window manager use 3d acceleration also.
[09:30] <Name141> with ATi drivers
[09:30] <Name141> _polto_: So is there any reason I might want to revert back to a previous release?
[09:30] <_polto_> Name141, I do not know your particular needs ;)
[09:30] <kubanc> aeon-ltd, i tries to updated graphic card drivers from Nvidia sitem but now i don't see desktop mode. I looked with command dpkg -l | grep nvidia what do i have installed and I can see that there is no package nvidia-current, only packages nvidia-common, nvidia-current-updates, nvidia-settings and nvidia-settings-updates. So I am assuming i need to reinstall drivers
[09:30] <Name141> _polto_: I'm basically just using the machine as a backup now
[09:31] <Name141> since I replaced XP with Ubuntu
[09:32] <_polto_> If 12.04 LTS is doing the job you should stick to it. If not, I would install 13.10 and upgrade to LTS as soon as it will be available. You need to try ...
[09:32] <_polto_> Name141, ..
[09:32] <aeon-ltd> kubanc: purge should get rid of residual files, so yeah those commands should be fine. no guarantee if it helps your situation or not
[09:32] <lolcat> Can I set ecrypfs in reverse?
[09:33] <Name141> _polto_: I figure I will go back to the LTS just to be left alone longer
[09:33] <aeon-ltd> kubanc: i'm not sure if it would be necessary to remove and purge all nvidia pkgs though]
[09:33] <lolcat> Can I use ecrypfs to keep all my files in plaintext on the drive, but to present a folder with encrypted versions of all the files?
[09:33] <aeon-ltd> kubanc: you could just try installing nvidia-current first
[09:34] <_polto_> anyone, I need to restore a 8.04 and install some packages. I did find the CD , but repositories listed in /etc/apt/sources.list  are no longer available. where can I find a mirror pls ?
[09:34] <kubanc> aeon-ltd, well I already purged it :D
[09:35] <aeon-ltd> kubanc: :)
[09:36] <glambert> is there a way to dd (or other) /dev/sda but ignore certain partitions?
[09:37] <kubanc> aeon-ltd, ok, the desktop is showing now...
[09:37] <kubanc> aeon-ltd, THNX for help
[09:37] <aeon-ltd> glambert: sda would do the whole drive
[09:38] <glambert> I know
[09:38] <glambert> I've got ubuntu and windows 8 dual booted and I want to back up the windows partitions
[09:38] <aeon-ltd> glambert: but partitions are designated sdax, i think that would work though i've rarely used dd
[09:38] <glambert> what's sdax?
[09:39] <aeon-ltd> glambert: are you sure something like clonezilla might be better?
[09:39] <glambert> plan is to back up everything windows into an image file and then resize ubuntu to fill disk
[09:39] <aeon-ltd> glambert: sda x as in a number e.g. sda1
[09:39] <glambert> then I can either VM my windows partition or just keep it until I ever need to restore it
[09:39] <SaberX01> glambert, as far as I know, dd has no knowledge of the file system itself, so if you wnated higher resolution on say backups or something, when you built your partitions, create lots more of them to start with.
[09:39] <glambert> aeon-ltd, ah, sorry
[09:41] <glambert> I'd prefer not to have to do anything with live disks or usbs
[09:41] <glambert> mainly because I have neither available atm :)
[09:41] <aeon-ltd> dd is safest from live envronments
[09:41] <SaberX01> glambert, what's the end goal, what you trying to do ?
[09:42] <aeon-ltd> using dd whilst booted could lead to unbootable copies
[09:42] <glambert> back up everything windows into an image and either VM it or keep it incase I need to restore windows in the future, for whatever reason
[09:43] <glambert> and then resize ubuntu to fill disk rather than half of it
[09:43] <glambert> which I will need a live disk for at that point
[09:44] <SaberX01> glambert, for the Windows BU, you better off using the Full BU utils it provides, and restore that in the VM, should should work, thought I've not tried it. As for fullign the disk, LiveCD and gparted can do that.
[09:45] <glambert> windows has backup facilities? do they actually function?
[09:46] <SaberX01> glambert, Well the ones I've used do .. I ran Vitsa64 for a long time and used the full BU/Restore  on that .. worked pretty good.
[09:47] <nashant> someone please help. Chrome keeps causing such high iowait that my laptop becomes completely unresponsive. This is the syslog from the offending time period http://pastebin.com/ZNXZLfsP
[09:47] <glambert> hmm, OK, will look into it.  Where does it store the backup files?
[09:48] <SaberX01> glambert, Well, that's the issue for you on what your trying to do/. The best solution would be an external device of some sort, so you can re-size the partition without worrying about the Win partition.
[09:49] <glambert> I was hoping to do the backup from within ubuntu, then test it out by creating a VM for it and/or creating a new partition and putting the image on there, then if all OK, deleting the partition(s)
[09:50] <theGrg> Hi. When I installed Ubuntu I set it up with full disk encryption using the installer. Now I'm trying "vgscan" or "lvdisplay", but it says "No volume groups found". Why would this happen? I want to run "lvreduce" on the volume.
[09:51] <SaberX01> glambert, the BU can be done from within Ubuntu / *Nix but having that BU actually boot In a VM .. don't think that can work but there may be some work around for it, I just don't know what it is.
[09:53] <glambert> SaberX01, ok thanks, will keep looking into it
[09:53] <theGrg> Even though a /dev/mapper/sda6_crypt exists here.
[09:54] <SaberX01> glambert, my best suggestion would be BU your data files from the Win Install .. then expand Ubuntu to full disk, in VBox, do a fresh Win Install and copy your data files back in, then you'll always have a Working Windows VM you can easily BU / Transfer.
[09:55] <jgcampbell300> does anyone here see a security problem with adding ssh keys to root accounts on all my local servers and desktops ... so i can ssh with out password from root account on any term on the network to any other term ?
[09:57] <PublicStaticVoid> I dunno if I need latest AMD Binary or wha
[09:57] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, yes and no .. depends on your ssh-server config .. and if you add passphrases to your keys. Not having a passphrase on a root account is a risk.
[09:57] <PublicStaticVoid> But I cant even use the open source driver
[09:57] <PublicStaticVoid> and the Binary in the repos is buggy
[09:57] <PublicStaticVoid> Like if I use Cinnamon is wrecks my system
[09:58] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, additionally, having ssh access to roo in itself is also a risk, one in shich I always disable on my servers.
[09:58] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, so i problaby should do it to add more security but use a passphrase as well
[09:58] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, ahh .. so how do you manage them ... ssh then sudo
[09:58] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, I do ssh-key for a normal user, then if I need sudo / root, I change manually or via a script if needed.
[09:59] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, sounds good ... thanks
[10:00] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, Here's some good config tip info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[10:00] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, cool thank you
[10:01] <jgcampbell300> i cant rember how to turn off all the extra info "people leaveing entering in chat here" with xchat
[10:01] <kubanc> hellow! Any ideas why my fonts aren't smooth in ubuntu 12.10?
[10:01] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, `too biggest ones for config security, disable root login, and diable PW login .. but Make sure your keys, at least two fo them work first before disabling PW login.
[10:02] <PublicStaticVoid> whats the codename for 13.10?
[10:02] <PublicStaticVoid> saucy?
[10:02] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, i was thinking i read something like that ... the PW tho im kina fuzzy on ... should i put key and pw or just remove pw and use key only
[10:02] <SaberX01> Yes
[10:03] <thom_r> saucy salamander
[10:03] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, Until you have PW-Less login working, e.g. via SSH-Keys, do not disable PW login.
[10:03] <thom_r> 14.04 is Trusty Tahr
[10:04] <marcofardin> ciao
[10:04] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, ahh ok gotcha ... sounds like a plan .. i am so sick of entering a password for every diffrent ssh i start
[10:04] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, Aslo, for you Key Passphrase, make that different that your user account PW, that's incase sombody somhow gets hold of your private key, unless they know the passphrase, wont work.
[10:06] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, Using a Key Passphrase is important, you only need to enter it once per session .. like when you boot up adn do the first Login after that is pass through.
[10:08] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, additionally, you can uses, if you choose, the same ssh-key for as many boxes as you wish, or if your really paranoid, make a new one for each server .. lol ..
[10:11] <PublicStaticVoid> I need to backup my Xorg.cong but its not where I am used to it being...
[10:11] <jgcampbell300> ubotu, help
[10:11] <PublicStaticVoid> conf
[10:11] <PublicStaticVoid> Used to be in /etc/x11
[10:13] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, lol that sounds like something i would have done in past ... one for each box ... i am thinking more of one per location for now
[10:14] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, or im sure i could make some kind of small script to create and upload to my storage server
[10:14] <Scroll> What is the term for an install with no gui?
[10:14] <Scroll> Trying to find proper guides
[10:15] <jgcampbell300> Scroll, i think your looking for installing a server
[10:15] <jgcampbell300> Scroll, im pretty sure like ubuntu 12.04 server has no gui
[10:15] <Scroll> Server is installed, I want to find a guide for starting apps on server start. But they're all for the desktop-looking version of ubuntu
[10:15] <jgcampbell300> Scroll, oh headless
[10:16] <Scroll> Awesome, thanks.
[10:16] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, I have seperate keys for some things, like my Launchpad account, and the the EU data center, or JA datacenter, then I have one grandmaster key, that I keep both priv + pub keys locked up, that is on every thing I access via sorta like a Sudo Super Key only for emergencies.
[10:16] <SaberX01> *via ssh
[10:17] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, and they two keys are offline encrypted, so if anyone does get hold of them, good luck busing the key :-)
[10:18] <Scroll> If I want to make a user only for executing a certain script, I just make a user without a password and access it via sudo?
[10:18] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, hmm that sounds like what i was thinking about doing ... i have been dumping all of my time into replacing peoples windows environments with linux and theres alot of people wanting my help
[10:18] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, hmm define offline encrypted
[10:18] <hitsujiTMO> Scroll yes
[10:19] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, gpg encryption
[10:19] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, ahh ok
[10:20] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, Like: tar cfJ - some-key-pair | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -e > some-key-pair.tar.xz
[10:20] <hitsujiTMO> Scroll: adduser --gecos "" --disabled-password usernameforaccount
[10:20] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, i have so much work to do on my network its not funny ... the last few months have been crazy ... im running backups right now .. hopefully ill have time today to make some long needed changes
[10:21] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, ya im glad you said that gona put that in my notes ... 256bit ?
[10:21] <SaberX01> Yeah,.. ubless you have a super-computer cluster handy for a few years, 256 probably pretty safe bet :-)
[10:23] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, lol aye
[10:23] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, what irc client do you use
[10:23] <Scroll> hitsujiTMO, Now just sudo -u user ./script.sh?
[10:23] <kop> BitchX
[10:23] <hitsujiTMO> Scroll: yup
[10:24] <Scroll> thanks
[10:24] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, irssi an xchat
[10:25] <jzk1> hi
[10:25] <PebkacJones> does freebsd suck?
[10:25] <jgcampbell300>  SaberX01 1-10 how is it
[10:25] <marcofardin> irc.infatech.net
[10:25] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | PebkacJones
[10:25] <jgcampbell300> PebkacJones, i have heard freebsd is bad ass if you want high end security
[10:25] <jzk1> I upgraded to 13.10 and now all my gnome panel icons are gone, and compiz is b0rked
[10:25] <Romance> PebkacJones: yes but that is offtopic
[10:26] <PublicStaticVoid> so if on 13.10 and running this   sh amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/raring
[10:26] <PebkacJones> ok thx
[10:26] <PublicStaticVoid> I would change raring to saucy?
[10:26] <PublicStaticVoid> or slamander?
[10:27] <PublicStaticVoid> cause its taking forever and is not verbose..
[10:27] <Scroll> If I wanted to run a script at start, i should put it in rc.local?
[10:27] <PublicStaticVoid> So I dunno if it is hanging or what
[10:27] <PublicStaticVoid> or ~/.xinit
[10:28] <PublicStaticVoid> or make it a service
[10:28] <PublicStaticVoid> Dunno how with upstart though
[10:28] <PebkacJones> Romance, are you romantic?
[10:29] <Romance> PebkacJones: yes but that is offtopic too, please #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, I like them both, irssi fun to play with, and there's tons of mods and scripts .. xchat, good for DE environment.
[10:29] <PebkacJones> kthxbye
[10:29] <acgn> Xchat must be good
[10:31] <hatari> #offsec
[10:33] <Moroco> who award  about ubuntu LTS server
[10:36] <jgcampbell300> oh i have a strange question .. if i try to x11 forward something like say firefox from a headless server to a desktop will it run firefox on the server and the gui for firefox on the desktop
[10:37] <bekks> jgcampbell300: Yes.
[10:37] <Isualin> hey! if i open a jpeg/png file with default picture viewer and click on the photo and drag it my desktop crashes. i don't know the right terms for ubuntu
[10:38] <jgcampbell300> bekks, thats cool .. i never thought about that ... so i am wondering if i could just run all my software from the server and use terminals around my lab to access them
[10:38] <bekks> jgcampbell300: I'd rather use nxserver/nxclient
[10:38] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, Port FWD Info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwardin
[10:39] <Alina-malina> how can i connect to remote windows machine with shell using winexe? or there is other options as well?
[10:39] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300,  Whoops, good linky here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[10:39] <bekks> Alina-malina: What is "winexe"?
[10:40] <jgcampbell300> hey thanks guys ... that sounds like something i really need to look into
[10:40] <BjornW> can somebody tell me how I can chang my apps icon when active in the application bar?
[10:42] <jgcampbell300> hmm i wonder if i can make one sshd.config file and copy it to multi systems
[10:42] <bekks> jgcampbell300: Sure.
[10:42] <jgcampbell300> cool .. this is starting to sound alot less time consuming that i thought
[10:43] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, that's how most admins do it for clusters of the same type-config
[10:43] <bekks> jgcampbell300: So how many computers do you have in your "lab"?
[10:44] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, you could write a simple script to do it for you.
[10:44] <Zalungi> can any one give a help about LTS server (ubuntu)
[10:44] <jgcampbell300> bekks,right now not many .. 10 or so up and running
[10:44] <bekks> SaberX01: Those things already exist. ssh-copy-id and scp :)
[10:44] <Romance> !ask | Zalungi
[10:44] <jgcampbell300> bekks, nother 20 or so remote for dev
[10:45] <SaberX01> bekks, Ahh yes, Im aware of that.
[10:45] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, I like that idea
[10:46] <Zalungi> Romance; is that possible to install the ubuntu LTS server on single computer , already i hv windows o/s on the same machine
[10:46] <Romance> !dualboot | Zalungi
[10:47] <jgcampbell300> lol display banner for ssh ... thats a good idea ... leave them a message on my private net that if they got this far more power to them but dont touch the music or porn lol
[10:48] <Heymans341> Hello; I have ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS but my os doesn't launch. I get a "entry not supported" screen after the computer starts. I can get in the bios and boot an installer from a usb stick but nothing else. Anybody can help?
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: where EXACTLY are you getting that error? is it in grub? after grub or before grub?
[10:51] <Zalungi> ubottu; thanks the link seen , however can i use the cd as a live cd b4 installing ?
[10:51] <Heymans341> I turn the commputer on, there's a first screen with hard disks etc, then it says launching OS and then nothing, although the machine keeps on going.
[10:51] <Romance> !livecd | Zalungi
[10:52] <acgn> Heymans341: It didn't enter grub?
[10:52] <Zalungi> ubuntu desktop , yes live cd  iknow but what about LTS ubuntu server
[10:53] <Heymans341> I'm sorry I don'know what that means
[10:53] <Romance> !server | Zalungi
[10:53] <Heymans341> the OS doesn't launch normally. I can get in the bios and select to boot with a usb stick.
[10:54] <acgn> Heymans341: Mm did it enter a screen to choose ubuntu/advanced options to startubuntu?
[10:54] <Heymans341> no
[10:54] <SneakyBeaver> I keep getting seg faults when starting Steam. Checked forums/google and nothing helps. Any ideas?
[10:54] <acgn> Heymans341: but cannot select ubuntu?
[10:54] <Heymans341> there is no other os on the machine
[10:54] <Zalungi> that is good rich info , then will follow the link , cya then
[10:55] <Heymans341> yes acgn, I cannot select anything
[10:55] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: the "first screen with hard drives" does it look like this http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DAoIzD2ZBjM/TtZHYBNRP1I/AAAAAAAAFCs/nVg15g46Zno/s1600/grub2_picture.png ?
[10:56] <SaberX01> SneakyBeaver, seeing how that's probably a 3rd party install, your best best is going directly to the authors.
[10:56] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, do you have a link explaining details of ssh keys ?
[10:56] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, Here's GnuPG, let me go get the SSH counter part: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[10:57] <SneakyBeaver> SaberX01 it's apparently a really common issue but the only fixes I see are outdated since Steam's latest update. Steam support is awfully slow.
[10:57] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[10:57] <Heymans341> hitsuji no not at all, something like that http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://i.stack.imgur.com/lH8n4.gif&imgrefurl=http://superuser.com/questions/230758/how-do-computers-boot&h=255&w=500&sz=19&tbnid=mPdDoZzGp6DhMM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=176&zoom=1&usg=__zNa0IcJet99RkAj6JGE0cSay7bk=&docid=70ZKA6ZqjsKM7M&sa=X&ei=fDrJUvmCEaun0wXYqYDwDQ&ved=0CEEQ9QEwAQ&dur=233
[10:57] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01, thanks much
[10:58] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: ahh bios screen then. can you boot a live cd?
[10:58] <SaberX01> SneakyBeaver, Not sure, but normally SegFaults only gonna get resolved by source code patches so the authors are you best chance at resolution.
[10:58] <SneakyBeaver> Alright, thanks anyways SaberX01, back to Windows I guess.
[10:59] <Heymans341> hitsuji I can boot a usb stick
[10:59] <PublicStaticVoid> How can I get a package from a ppa I installed instead of from the repos?
[10:59] <PublicStaticVoid> I installed the ppa but I think ap-get install package will just use the ubuntu repos and not the ppa?
[10:59] <Heymans341> I'm running a test version from ausb stick right now
[11:00] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[11:00] <SaberX01> PublicStaticVoid, Did you do an update after installing the PPA?
[11:00] <PublicStaticVoid> no haha
[11:00] <PublicStaticVoid> ill repurge
[11:00] <SaberX01> That would help
[11:01] <Heymans341> I can't find the terminal :(
[11:01] <xatr0z> alt ctrl t
[11:01] <SaberX01> put a GPS tracker on it .. :_0
[11:01] <PublicStaticVoid> So it will default to the ppa and not the ubuntu repo arter an update then?
[11:01] <James0r> does this channel offer support for Kubuntu?
[11:01] <SaberX01> PublicStaticVoid, PPA info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_PPAs
[11:01] <bekks> PublicStaticVoid: It will default to the more recent version.
[11:02] <Heymans341> Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[11:02] <Heymans341> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
[11:02] <Heymans341> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[11:02] <Heymans341> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
[11:02] <Heymans341> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
[11:02] <FloodBot1> Heymans341: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:02] <Heymans341> Disk identifier: 0x00038dfe
[11:02] <Heymans341>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:02] <SaberX01> James0r, to a degree yes, but for KDE specifics, may be better in #kubuntu
[11:03] <PublicStaticVoid> bekks: Hm well I dont know if it is more recent just read in a forum that the bug with 13.04 and cinnamon doesnt happen if I get it from the ppa
[11:03] <Heymans341> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6696255/
[11:04] <streulma> why i it taking so long if I in the window "Preparing to install Ubuntu" if I click on continue? It takes his time...
[11:06] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: sudo mkdir -p /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[11:06] <PublicStaticVoid> Wish Ubuntu allowed you to select systemd at instal
[11:06] <streulma> installer does notting....
[11:06] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: ubuntu has upstart instead
[11:06] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: Whats the -p in mkdir?
[11:07] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, thats the problem.. Debian lets you choose from all 3 at install
[11:08] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: if /mn doesn't exist it will make it instead of throwing an error. if /mnt/ubuntu exist it will not throw an error
[11:08] <jgcampbell300> bbl
[11:08] <PublicStaticVoid> man its 3 AM and there are two playoff games tomorrow wtf am I up?
[11:08] <Heymans341> hitsuji first command didn't do anything, second command got this: mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/ubuntu busy
[11:08] <Heymans341> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt/ubuntu
[11:08] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: Nice to know, thx
[11:09] <streulma> ok solved. sudo pkill -9 ubiquity
[11:09] <PublicStaticVoid> Heymans341: ls /mnt/ubuntu
[11:09] <PublicStaticVoid> bbl
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: please pastebin output of: ls -l /mnt/ubuntu/var/log
[11:11] <Heymans341> publicstaticvoid http://paste.ubuntu.com/6696278/
[11:12] <Heymans341> hitsuji http://paste.ubuntu.com/6696285/
[11:12] <dALoL> Hi all, where do I find the ubuntu android installer? isn't it released?
[11:13] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: please pastebin contents of: /mnt/ubuntu/var/log/dmesg
[11:14] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, you still around?
[11:14] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01: aye just got back
[11:14] <Heymans341> hitsuji permission denied
[11:14] <streulma> dALoL what do you mean? I can install Ubuntu in my Android phone. But not install Ubuntu Touch on my phone.
[11:14] <Sammael> Hello all, I have a question about load balancing. Is it allowed to be posted here ?
[11:14] <acgn> permission denied?sudo su？
[11:16] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, Once you get your keys setup, seeing how you only have like 10 boxes, add aliases to you ~/.bashrc to connect like:  alias srv1='ssh user@IP-ADDRESS' .. then all you type in the term is srv1
[11:16] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: use sudo to read it, ie: sudo cat /mnt/ubuntu/var/log/dmesg              or: sudo nano /mnt/ubuntu/var/log/dmesg
[11:17] <dALoL> streulma So, when I want to use Ubuntu on my Samsung galaxy s3, which version shall I install? (Call, Photo etc. will work?)
[11:17] <Heymans341> hitsuji : nothing has been logged yet
[11:18] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01: this is just dev for a larger deployment .. will look into that tho ... i could use that on home network ... wouldnt that be handeled by my dns th o
[11:18] <acgn> By the way how to save a file in nano?
[11:18] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, if you have FQDN use that, otherwise, use IP addy ..
[11:19] <alket> Hi, I am trying to connect with direct LAN Ubuntu 12.10 and Windows 7 to transfer some files, for some reason ubuntu doesn't connect
[11:19] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01: kk
[11:19] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300,  It's just a quick shortcut .. if you log in and out allot.
[11:20] <SaberX01> I use allot of aliases, so I source them from a file called from .bashrc.
[11:20] <bekks> alket: Define "direct LAN" and "does not connect" please.
[11:20] <Heymans341> hitsuji also the terrminal has changed somehow after that second command
[11:20] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01: gona put that in my notes ... im haveing alot of reading time right now lol
[11:21] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300, that's a never ending deal for admins . lol .
[11:21] <alket> bekks, with RJ45 cable, I am connecting one side with ubuntu and other side with windows for file transfer, ubuntu has created Auto Eth but doesn't connect
[11:21] <bekks> acgn: Look at the bottom of the screen in nano, it says ctrl-o to save and ctrl-x to exit nano.
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: seems ubuntu may be failing right at the start with such a shord dmesg
[11:22] <jgcampbell300> SaberX01: i here that ...
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> short*
[11:22] <bekks> alket: you have to manually set an IP, since Windows isnt running a DHCP server.
[11:22] <acgn> bekks: Thanks- -
[11:22] <Heymans341> hitsuji yes I think so too. maybe it's a motherboard problem?
[11:23] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: hard to tell what it is with no logs
[11:23] <SaberX01> Just share the NIC port on the Ubuntu machine .. but that's not not going to enable file sharing, need Samba for that or SSHFS
[11:23] <Heymans341> I am running the test version maybe that's why?
[11:24] <bekks> Heymans341: Which test version?
[11:24] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: hat do you mean by a test version?
[11:24] <hitsujiTMO> what*
[11:25] <Heymans341> a bootable usb of 12.04.3 LTS.
[11:25] <bekks> Heymans341: Thats no test version.
[11:26] <Heymans341> no I mean when I bbot it asks me install or test, right now I'm testing because if i choose install it doesn' boot after the install is complete
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: can you pastebin contents of: /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: thats just that you're in the live cd
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: so is the copy of ubuntu /dev/sda just a fresh install that you have never booted yet?
[11:28] <Heymans341> hitsuji what is the sudo command please
[11:28] <streulma> dALoL are you still here? You bring me on an idea for my S3 to run Ubuntu. But it don't works (no call function) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i9300
[11:28] <Heymans341> hitsuji yes
[11:29] <dALoL> yes I am - wow thanks for that!
[11:29] <alket> thank you bekks its working now
[11:29] <James0r> how can i use a python script with conky? here's the script i want to use http://www.gefoo.org/conky-amarok-integration-show-current-playing-song.html
[11:30] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: ahhh, ok. pastebin output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:30] <jgcampbell300> omg the never ending exit enter messages
[11:30] <jgcampbell300> is there a way to turn that off from server
[11:30] <cfhowlett> jgcampbell300, turn em off!
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> jgcampbell300  what's your irc client?
[11:31] <Heymans341> hitsuji http://paste.ubuntu.com/6696372/
[11:31] <jgcampbell300> i use xchat normaly but just swithed to pidgin
[11:32] <streulma> dALoL try this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/saucy/daily-preinstalled/20131127/
[11:32] <bekks> jgcampbell300: Switch back to an IRC client then :)
[11:33] <jgcampbell300> k
[11:33] <SaberX01> jgcampbell300,  I think think there's a plugin Hide Join-Leave or Part messages, something  like that.
[11:34] <MarkDavies> What package do you recommend for viewing images in a console?
[11:34] <dALoL> Thanks I'll try that.
[11:34] <jgcampbell300> i know there usto be an option to turn it off i just cant find it
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: can you pastebin contents of: /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:37] <acgn> http://thedungeoneeringdad.blogspot.com/2010/01/its-girl-here-is-your-pink-d20.html
[11:37] <acgn> 233333
[11:37] <Heymans341> hitsuji actually no I can't copy the results to pastebin
[11:38] <acgn> oh i had something wrong^
[11:38] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:39] <Heymans341> hitsuji unable to locate package pastebinit
[11:41] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: cat /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[11:42] <Heymans341> installed curl
[11:42] <steve_fi> is there a build of 14.04 that boots straight to Mir and doesn't have X.org at all? I'm having major issues getting my tablet to boot without nomodeset and I've been at this for about a week now
[11:43] <Sammael> Hello all, I would like to setup a cluster for file sharing over multiple servers. The idea is to start with 2 servers and increase the amount in the future. Is MAAS a good idea for this? The main issue I fear is bandwith there each server will have 200mbps and I would like to use that to the best which is possible.
[11:43] <Heymans341> hitsuji thanks for everything I gitta go my baby just woke up
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> Heymans341: np
[11:43] <Heymans341> thanks again
[11:45] <ubuntu> MadBoy
[11:46] <bhavesh> I am installing Ubuntu and Windows in my friends hard drive which I have connected to my cpu, if he takes the hard drive back to his home, what will he have to do? Just install grub with sudo install grub /dev/sda ?
[11:48] <bekks> bhavesh: if you connect his drive as sdba, install grub and your friend doesnt need to do anything.
[11:48] <SaberX01> bhavesh, Install windows first, then, Ubuntu, then give the LiveCD / Install disk to your friend, have him reinstall Ubuntu hen he gets home, overwritign the first install.
[11:48] <hitsujiTMO> bhavesh: he'll prob need to reinstall both ubuntu and windows. What kind of hardware do you have? and what kind of hardware does he have?
[11:49] <SaberX01> what he said ^^ I doubt the Win install will work .. maybe even BSOD on him.
[11:49] <x__> hi all
[11:49] <bhavesh> hitsujiTMO: I have an AMD processor with 4GB RAM, he has an Intel P4 with 2GB RAM
[11:50] <bekks> bhavesh: Then he will experience issues with windows.
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> bhavesh: lots of issues
[11:50] <bekks> bhavesh: And did you install 32 or 64bit Ubuntu?
[11:50] <SaberX01> He's better off just doing the installs himself rather than re-doin them both when he gets home.
[11:50] <bhavesh> bekks: I am going to install 32bit
[11:50] <bhavesh> okay, thank you.
[11:51] <bekks> bhavesh: I'll second SaberX01 at that point.
[12:00] <eddy_> 你好！XBMC为什么不能识别其他分区里的音乐呀？
[12:01] <thom_r> eddy_ English please
[12:01] <cfhowlett> !cn|eddy_,
[12:02] <borosky> whoah
[12:03] <eddy_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:04] <eddy_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:05] <thom_r> eddy_ open a new channel tab
[12:05] <Budek> Hello
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Budek, greeetings
[12:05] <Budek> Anyone can send msg to #ubuntu-pl?
[12:06] <thom_r> hey budek
[12:07] <enedil> Budek: Banned
[12:07] <enedil> You are banned from #ubuntu-pl.
[12:07] <enedil> ;(
[12:07] <Budek> Lold :D
[12:07] <enedil> Budek: I registered on freenode yesterday
[12:11] <Rulexec> Hello. What to do, if after latest "ubuntu base" update, each time, when screen is dimed (for example, if I press Ctrl+Alt+L), brightness level is setting to maximum?
[12:12] <MarkDavies> how can I learn what is IP address of my router?
[12:13] <hitsujiTMO> whatismyip.com ?
[12:13] <Budek> MarkDavies:  ifconfig, search gateway
[12:13] <hitsujiTMO> or internal ip?
[12:14] <Myrtti> MarkDavies: it's usually the Default Route on your connection information
[12:14] <subz3r0> Budek: thats bullshit. ifconfig does not show the gateway
[12:14] <subz3r0> route -n does
[12:14] <MarkDavies> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure, I'm looking for "IP of my router" in order to make networking possible under FreeDOS
[12:14] <Budek> subz3r0: yep, my bad
[12:14] <Budek> just too much windows :x
[12:14] <eddy_> 你好！
[12:15] <subz3r0> !cn | eddy_
[12:15] <eddy_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:15] <Rulexec> subz3r0: wow :)
[12:15] <subz3r0> Rulexec: what wow?
[12:16] <minas> hi. my laptop's embedded microphone sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't. what settings should I check?
[12:16] <Rulexec> subz3r0: cool bot command.
[12:16] <subz3r0> Rulexec: yeah its amazing
[12:17] <Budek> bye
[12:17] <enedil> bye
[12:18] <Allison43> MarkDavies, route -n,   the gateway is your router ip in moist cases
[12:19] <cfhowlett> you do mean "most" --- right?
[12:19] <Allison43> yup
[12:19] <MarkDavies> so it is 192.168.1.1
[12:19] <Allison43> MarkDavies, that looks normal
[12:21] <hitsujiTMO> cfhowlett: i prefer moist tbh
[12:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[12:22] <cristian_c> I've tried bustle-dbus-monitor and bustle
[12:23] <cristian_c> In the various tests I've done, I have not seen activity about mouse and keyboard connected
[12:23] <cristian_c> devices work but are not announced in bustle
[12:23] <cristian_c> at the same time, the only information shown by bustle are those related to applications
[12:29] <cristian_c> may be bustle is not the right program to detect the activity of the devices?
[12:29] <cristian_c> and if so, what is the right program to monitor this activity?
[12:29] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[12:32] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: what exactly do you want to record? whats the end goal?
[12:34] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I was told to check if the keyboard is announced correctly on dbus
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> "announced correctly"?
[12:34] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, the keyboard battery is not detected by upower -d or upower -e
[12:35] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I was told so
[12:35] <cristian_c> :(
[12:35] <shaun__> any reason why df -h wouldnt work , i type df -h as root and it acts like its going to output something but never does
[12:35] <cristian_c> MonkeyDust, , I was told so
[12:35] <phteven> hello.  I woke up this morning and my hdmi cable isn't recognized.  it was working fine when I went to bed last night.  what can I do to diagnose the problem and get it working again?
[12:36] <bekks> shaun__: IO error, stale mount lock, incredible number of inodes, etc.
[12:36] <bekks> shaun__: check dmesg first
[12:36] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: told by who exactly?
[12:36] <cristian_c> MonkeyDust, hitsujiTMO , I've checked the permissions on the device, dmesg, syslog upower version and dbus with bustle
[12:36] <shaun__> thanks bekks , ill google those
[12:36] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, gentoo users
[12:37] <shaun__> dmesg looks ok btw
[12:37] <bekks> shaun__: Just type it into a terminal.
[12:37] <cristian_c> HisaoNakai, the have talked generally about dbus, not bustle in particular
[12:37] <cristian_c> I've looked for dbus monitor applications
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: why would the system be able to see the battery level of a keyboard?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> cristian_c  gentoo users are ueber-geeks, they use solutions way over our heads
[12:39] <bekks> MonkeyDust: s/over our heads/somethings far from reality/ ;) Just my 2 cents.
[12:39] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: I believe the expecation is set from some keyboard providers providing "connection" software for their wirless keyboard, which also feeds back battery status
[12:39] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: that's just a stupid thing to say
[12:39] <ikonia> please don't make up stuff like that and feed it to users, it's just nonsense
[12:39] <SaberX01> Allot of KB's support that function and more in Win, especially the Logitec Gaming KB's.
[12:40] <ikonia> SaberX01: yes, via 3rd party propitary software
[12:40] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: so your end goal is to be able to see the power level of a keyboard's battery?
[12:40] <SaberX01> Not seen allot of those work well in Linux though.
[12:41] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, yes, the keyboard has a led
[12:41] <cristian_c> for the battery
[12:41] <cristian_c> MonkeyDust, lol
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: what is the make and model of the keyboard?
[12:42] <streulma> MonkeyDust I installed 13.10 today and it is fully working on Macbook Pro 5-2 :)
[12:42] <SaberX01> ikonia, That may actually be the solution, to modprobe the Win driver, like the old days for allot of WiFi cards, but who know.
[12:42] <ikonia> SaberX01: errr no
[12:42] <streulma> can I change information on Ubuntu wiki pages?
[12:42] <ikonia> SaberX01: create an account, login, change it
[12:42] <ikonia> SaberX01: oops, that was for streulma
[12:42] <streulma> :)
[12:42] <streulma> I want to help people
[12:42] <streulma> yeay it is working :p
[12:43] <streulma> Now I have a fast laptop !
[12:43] <cloudgeek> steroide_py: how we encode the hash of passwd stored in hash file, I forget
[12:43] <cloudgeek> my root password
[12:44] <Myrtti> your root password? you're not supposed to have one
[12:45] <phteven> I woke up this morning and my hdmi cable isn't recognized.  it was working fine when I went to bed last night.  what can I do to diagnose the problem and get it working again?
[12:45] <cloudgeek> How I can encode my root password on , I am using 12.04, I want restore it
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !root
[12:45] <user82> does anyone else recently have problems with skype? mine occasionally freezes until i kill it manually
[12:45] <streulma> cloudgeek: You are a Sudo user, just do sudo passwd root
[12:45] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, media wireless keyboard by labtec
[12:46] <cloudgeek> streulma: let me try it
[12:46] <ikonia> cloudgeek: no, do not do that
[12:46] <ikonia> cloudgeek: do not do that.
[12:46] <cloudgeek> okay
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> streulma  i'm really glad you made it work!
[12:46] <streulma> hmm yes
[12:46] <streulma> he IS already root
[12:46] <cloudgeek> ikonia: what I need to do, I am in recovery mode, I am online from other system
[12:46] <ikonia> cloudgeek: you should not have a root password
[12:46] <ikonia> cloudgeek: you should be using your normal user account and sudo
[12:47] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I know , I give root permission using sudo -s
[12:47] <cloudgeek> su -
[12:47] <ikonia> cloudgeek: right, so you shouldn't be doing hat
[12:47] <bekks> cloudgeek: ouch. use sudo -i :)
[12:47] <ikonia> cloudgeek: you should be using your normal account and "sudo"
[12:48] <cloudgeek> ikonia: also my regular user password also gone
[12:48] <ikonia> cloudgeek: that's why there is no root password
[12:48] <ikonia> cloudgeek: I doubt it's "gone"
[12:48] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I know that guy trolling me
[12:48] <ikonia> cloudgeek: what has happened
[12:48] <ikonia> cloudgeek: no-one is trolling you
[12:48] <zxd> hi
[12:48] <cfhowlett> zxd, greetings
[12:48] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I given my system to my sister, I don't how he done my password is not working
[12:48] <phteven> can someone please suggest a better channel for me to get help with my hdmi issue?
[12:48] <streulma> MonkeyDust: yes :) it was a pain, but it works, I think my laptop is now faster then OSX :)
[12:49] <VLanX> hello, is there a way to check for a packet, which dependency it has already installed and what arent?
[12:49] <ikonia> cloudgeek: ok, so what is your username
[12:49] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I think don't able recognise the password
[12:49] <cloudgeek> ikonia: ompy
[12:49] <cloudgeek> that is /etc/passwd
[12:49] <ikonia> cloudgeek: so from the recovery shell "passwrd ompy" and set your users password
[12:49] <zxd> what settings to change maybe in /etc/apt ? for  Update Manager not to popup and download only twice weekly announcing only LTS releases then install the updates
[12:50] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I tried that I will print you error meassge
[12:50] <edzz23k> how do i go on to ausnet
[12:50] <edzz23k> im from australia i want a aussie chat room
[12:50] <cfhowlett> zxd, easier to make the changes via update manager ...
[12:51] <cloudgeek> ikonia: Authentication token manipuation error
[12:51] <ikonia> cloudgeek: please show me the output of the command "id" now please.
[12:52] <zxd> cfhowlett: yes but I am trying to deploy  automation via chef to multiplie fresh ubuntu installations
[12:52] <cloudgeek> ikonia: that is other system , I could type not paste that exactly
[12:52] <ikonia> cloudgeek: ok, type it
[12:52] <sgo11> hi, I am just wondering how to check/test if 2D and 3D acceleration enabled or not in the system? thanks.
[12:52] <bekks> sgo11: In vbox?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> zxd, ah.  different.  sorry, but I don't know the specifics on that one ... however, the #ubuntu-server probably do .
[12:52] <cloudgeek> ikonia: uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !server|zxd,
[12:53] <ikonia> cloudgeek: ok, so you should be able to update the password with that account with out a problem
[12:53] <edzz23k> how do i get into an australian chat roon
[12:53] <kostkon> edzz23k, #ubuntu-au
[12:53] <sgo11> bekks, not in vbox. I will have a arm device soon. I would like to know how to check this beforehand. thanks. :)
[12:54] <ikonia> cloudgeek: is your root file system mounted read/write
[12:54] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I done passwd ompy , then fill new passwd , but after that it is saying passwd unchnaged
[12:54] <ikonia> cloudgeek: eg: can you do "touch /etc/test"
[12:54] <edzz23k> what about turkey chatroom
[12:54] <cloudgeek> ikonia: read only
[12:54] <ikonia> cloudgeek: ok, so that's the problem then
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: it seems that battery-monitor should automatically pick it up if its a known interface. if not then either they keyboard does not advertise the battery level or advertises it in an unknown way
[12:55] <ikonia> cloudgeek: you can't update the password file while it's read only
[12:55] <edzz23k> what about turkey chatroom
[12:55] <cloudgeek> ikonia:How I can get write permission there
[12:55] <cfhowlett> edzz23k, so no you want to go from aussie only to turkey?  forgive me for saying so, but I detect trolling
[12:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[12:55] <cloudgeek> ikonia: What we can do ? now
[12:55] <ikonia> cloudgeek: why is it mounted read only
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> !tr | edzz23k
[12:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, but I've not understood which battery-monitor
[12:56] <cristian_c> it's not a laptop battery
[12:56] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: no but the same app will pick it up
[12:56] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, uhm, I don't know :(
[12:56] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, there are two problems
[12:56] <edzz23k> how do i get into turkish chat rooms plz
[12:56] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: if that doesn't show up then it looks like you're out of luck
[12:57] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I don't shall I try it again , If you advise I can restart it again
[12:57] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, 1) battery detection (upower, etc...), 2) led detection
[12:57] <ikonia> cloudgeek: run "mount -o remount rw /"
[12:57] <Allison43> edzz23k, join #ubuntu-au
[12:57] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, uhm, ok
[12:57] <dn4> why does it seems like ubuntu is filtering out support for older computer systems that previously worked on older Ubuntu versions
[12:57] <cloudgeek> ikonia: okay,
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> edzz23k  type   /join #ubuntu-tr
[12:58] <ikonia> dn4: that's just your perception
[12:58] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, then, can't I detect hardware in general with bustle?
[12:58] <dn4> ikonia, I have proof
[12:58] <dn4> something to do with udev during the boot up process on my motherboard
[12:59] <dn4> and then my bios gets all sorts of fact up
[12:59] <dn4> but ubuntu 10.04 installs perfectly
[12:59] <SaberX01> cristian_c, hitsujiTMO WHile not specific to a Keyboard, this solar apt grabs the Batt level and displays it though: http://askubuntu.com/questions/248006/how-can-i-see-the-battery-status-of-my-logitech-wireless-mouse
[12:59] <kostkon> dn4, what's the cpu
[12:59] <dn4> AMD Athalon
[12:59] <cloudgeek> ikonia: thanks
[12:59] <ikonia> dn4: that's not "proof" that's just you having a problem
[13:00] <dn4> ikonia, yeah but why does my bios get changed
[13:00] <cristian_c> SaberX01, ok, I'll take a look, thanks
[13:00] <cristian_c> SaberX01, ok, but Solaar is only for logitech
[13:00] <cristian_c> :(
[13:01] <cristian_c> devices
[13:01] <cloudgeek> ikonia: let me try to login in it  :)
[13:02] <SaberX01> cristian_c, Well, that's too bad, as there is a PPA for it also.
[13:02] <dn4> can udev go into the bios and change stuff?
[13:02] <ikonia> dn4: no
[13:03] <cloudgeek> ikonia: Thank you very much
[13:03] <dn4> then why did my bios settings get changed followed by mod probe cpu lockup due to udev ?
[13:04] <zxd> in sort are there any config files for update-manager where does it save its settings?
[13:04] <cristian_c> SaberX01, ok
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> dn4: what bios settings got changed exactly? typically an os cannot write to the bios settings
[13:04] <Allison43> dn4, which bios settings get changed ?
[13:04] <zxd> gconf?
[13:05] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, or have I to try other applications to detect hardware with dbus?
[13:05] <cristian_c> :)
[13:05] <Allison43> dn4, or are you changing the bios settings and forgetting to save them and blaming udev
[13:05] <dn4> it was a video setting
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: i'm not sure what bustle is tbh, so no idea
[13:06] <dn4> and now my machine won't boot up regularly and I have to use the recovery mode
[13:06] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> dn4: what exact setting? video setting isn't exactly a bios setting
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> dn4: what is your gpu?
[13:08] <dn4> no gnu; old Asus a7v266 motherboard
[13:08] <dn4> gpu
[13:08] <SaberX01> cristian_c, what is the make and model of this thing your trying to get the batt level on?
[13:10] <hitsujiTMO> dn4: so its an onboard gpu. can you pastebin output of: lspci
[13:11] <dn4> hitsujiTMO, I can do that in 24 hours possibly
[13:11] <dn4> not at this exact moment
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> dn4: kk
[13:13] <Allison43> dn4, to be less verbose , sudo lshw -C video , will give the info needed
[13:15] <Guest56531> Hello how's it going? I am using Ubuntu 13.10 with the Cinnamon window manager and I can't use my mouse pad to click. (Dell N4010 laptop) I put synclient tapbutton1=1 into the terminal and it works but when I restart I have to do the command again because it don't save. Is there a way I can fix this?
[13:25] <james-> Hello, hopefully someone can be available to help real quick :) I mounted another partition because I needed a file from it and when I went to unmount it I accidently did something and now it won't show the mounted drives on my unity bar. I am using Ubuntu 13.10 can someone help?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> !mount | james-
[13:27] <james-> lotuspsychje, this all seems good to know, I saved the page but it don't tell me how to get the mounted volumes back on my unity bar.
[13:27] <ice9> disabling the touchpad while typing is now working
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> james-: here's a guy who solved it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183465
[13:28] <fatjon> hi. i wan't to install the update from the "Software Updater" but it show me (Packege operation falied, The installation or removal of a software packege falied.) i have ubuntu 13.10
[13:29] <ashoksahoo> hello, what is the safe way to upgrade from windows 7 to 8 keeping ubuntu dual boot intact
[13:29] <james-> lotuspsychje, when I plug a flash drive into my machine it automatically mounts and shows on the unity bar. My partitions used to do the same but they don't now.
[13:29] <james-> lotuspsychje, ill check that one out thank you :)
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | ashoksahoo
[13:30] <cfhowlett> ashoksahoo, just assume that you're GOING To lose ubuntu and plan to reinstall.  win8 is trashing ubuntu all by itself.  I seriously doubt that upgrading from win7 to win8 will be any less damaging to ubuntu
[13:30] <Mohamd> Hello guys . i am having a big problem in installing Ubuntu ( i tried all different sorts of other Linux Distros)
[13:30] <merandus> I'm getting a  ubuntu-based VPS, I'm still a beginner at linux, should i   install 32bits or 64? any ideas?
[13:30] <fatjon> hi. i wan't to install the update from the "Software Updater" but it show me (Packege operation falied, The installation or removal of a software packege falied.) i have ubuntu 13.10
[13:30] <ashoksahoo> I cant afford to lose anything
[13:31] <cfhowlett> ashoksahoo, then stay with win7
[13:31] <bekks> ashoksahoo: Create backups. Unless your data is not worth to be kept.
[13:31] <SaberX01> merandus, 64
[13:31] <Mohamd> it seems the distro perfectly works live via the pendrive .. but when i start to install it says the ERno 5 : input and output error
[13:31] <Mohamd> what do you think i should do?
[13:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[13:31] <bekks> Mohamd: Investigate the error :)
[13:31] <james-> lotuspsychje, nope that isn't it either :0 sorry to be a pain in the neck, don't have to mount volumes through the terminal I can still mount them by going to files, device, and selecting the volume i'd like to mount. It just don't show in the unity bar on the left that it's mounted. It's easier when it's on the launcher.
[13:31] <merandus> SaberX01:  any reasons? imy vp has 2gb memory by the way
[13:31] <fatjon> hi. i wan't to install the update from the "Software Updater" but it show me (Packege operation falied, The installation or removal of a software packege falied.) i have ubuntu 13.10
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> james-: are those ntfs drives?
[13:32] <Mohamd> bekks : do you think i should re supply a new hard disk?
[13:32] <Allison43> Mohamd, what's the problem ,give some details
[13:32] <bekks> Mohamd: I think you should investigate the error.
[13:32] <Mohamd> wait..
[13:32] <SaberX01> merandus, All my server are 64  .. come to think of it, I only have one box that's not 64.
[13:33] <fatjon> hi. i wan't to install the update from the "Software Updater" but it show me (Packege operation falied, The installation or removal of a software packege falied.) i have ubuntu 13.10
[13:33] <james-> lotuspsychje, Sometimes, but I mainly use linux drives. I just like the mounted drives to show on unity. I can show you a picture if you'd like, is there something similar to pastebin but instead of pastes I can show pictures?
[13:33] <Mohamd> Installation failed : installer encountered an error copying files to the hardisk
[13:33] <Mohamd> [erno 5] input and output error
[13:33] <bekks> Mohamd: Yeah, then type: dmesg and see which errors occured.
[13:33] <SaberX01> merandus, its pretty easy really, if you have 64 installed and need it, you have it, if ya dont and need it, your hosed. easier just to install it.
[13:34] <Mohamd> dmesg?
[13:34] <bekks> Mohamd: Yes, dmesg
[13:34] <merandus> SaberX01:  so  for having both 64/32 support i just go with 64?
[13:34] <bekks> merandus: Yes.
[13:34] <Mohamd> bekks : im not on the linux now , because i cant install it
[13:35] <merandus> SaberX01: if i go 32bit, then i won't be able to work 64bit packages/codes or something
[13:35] <bekks> merandus: Correct. Using 32bit, you cannot use 64bit. But you can use 32bit when being on 64bit.
[13:35] <SaberX01> merandus, Yup, if ya need 32bit support, just add ia32-libs .. and go from there.
[13:35] <Mohamd> as soon as that error pops .. then it shows up that the launcher has crashed
[13:36] <merandus> bekks: oh i see
[13:36] <merandus> so i'll guess i just go with 64.
[13:36] <SaberX01> good choice :-)
[13:37] <SaberX01> merandus, You may want to start reading here also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/SaucyUbuntuServerGuide
[13:38] <fatjon> hi. i wan't to install the update from the "Software Updater" but it show me (Packege operation falied, The installation or removal of a software packege falied.) i have ubuntu 13.10
[13:38] <merandus> SaberX01: i'm going to install 12.4 though i guess?
[13:39] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, media wireless keyboard by labtec <--- SaberX01
[13:39] <bekks> merandus: Install Ubuntu 12.04 - Opensuse 12.4 isnt ontopic in here ;)
[13:39] <james-> :/ the person th8at was helping me appears to have quit. Is there any way I can get my mounted volumes to show on my unity bar again? I clicked something when I went to unmount and now I have to go to the file manager to manage mounted volumes instead of having them on my unity bar.
[13:39] <SaberX01> merandus, sorry my bad, here's the actual guide, I was working on documentation earlier: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/index.html
[13:41] <Phoenixxl> could someone please tell me where the sequence number for init.d entries is stored. The general default is 20 but some serviced have their own. openvpn for example has 80 , where can those be changed per program. Or where are they defined when installing. Thnx for any reply.
[13:41] <ikonia> Phoenixxl: doesn't work like that with upstart
[13:42] <Phoenixxl> ikonia, i know i'm not talking about upstart
[13:42] <ikonia> Phoenixxl: what are you talking about then, as upstart is the init system for ubuntu
[13:43] <SaberX01> cristian_c, I did a quick search, did not yield much you probably need to compile a module, but that's a guess, and where to find the how too, probably not easy either.
[13:43] <Phoenixxl> ikonia, update-rc.d
[13:43] <Oxcyde> hello all
[13:43] <bekks> Phoenixxl: update-rc.d is for SYSV init, which is not used by Ubuntu.
[13:43] <Madhurjya> Hello, Can someone help me with some graphics related issue on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[13:43] <cristian_c> SaberX01, ok
[13:44] <cristian_c> SaberX01, #ubuntu-offtopic?
[13:44] <Phoenixxl> bekks, sure it is
[13:44] <Phoenixxl> bekks, server 12.04.3 uses it when installing openpn
[13:45] <bekks> Phoenixxl: The init system of Ubuntu is upstart, not SYSV
[13:45] <SaberX01> cristian_c, I dont think so, but maybe. Id' go to the MFG and ask them about Linux support of the product.
[13:45] <maksimkaaa> Hi, Can I show what the current time in different timezone like Moscow using date command? my pc is UTC and i want to check what is current date in another city without changing the timezone on my pc..
[13:45] <Madhurjya> Hello, A little support needed here!
[13:45] <ikonia> maksimkaaa: that is not dates function
[13:46] <maksimkaaa> ikonia: is there another tool for that? or should i write a program for that?
[13:46] <cristian_c> SaberX01, mfg as manufacturing?
[13:46] <ikonia> maksimkaaa: a shell script would work just fine
[13:46] <SaberX01> cristian_c, yes, MFG = manufacturer of the product.
[13:46] <cristian_c> ok
[13:47] <Phoenixxl> bekks, I just need to know where the sequence numbers are stored
[13:47] <cristian_c> SaberX01, but I think it dowsn't know linux
[13:47] <cristian_c> *doesn't
[13:47] <maksimkaaa> ikonia: a shell script? what exactly will it do and where will it get its tz info from ?
[13:47] <bekks> Phoenixxl: In the name of the file in /rcX.d/
[13:47] <Phoenixxl> bekks, danted starts too early
[13:47] <Madhurjya> Is there anyone who can help with graphics related UNITY interface on ubuntu??
[13:47] <bekks> Phoenixxl: /etc/rcX.d/
[13:47] <cristian_c> almost all input manufacturers don't know lnux
[13:47] <cristian_c> +i
[13:47] <bekks> !anyone| Madhurjya
[13:47] <Phoenixxl> bekks, when they are generated
[13:48] <ikonia> maksimkaaa: if you know your current time zone is utc and you know russia is say +2 then you just do date %format hour syntax +2
[13:48] <Phoenixxl> bekks, they must have a template with a default
[13:48] <bekks> Phoenixxl: When installing the package. They arent generated, they are just copied from the package archive.
[13:48] <Phoenixxl> bekks, how else would sudo get to 75 for example
[13:48] <ikonia> maksimkaaa: then just put that in a script so you can cll time zones
[13:48] <bekks> Phoenixxl: From the package archive it was installed from.
[13:48] <Phoenixxl> bekks, ok we're getting somewhere now
[13:48] <Phoenixxl> bekks, and where is that stored ?
[13:49] <SaberX01> maksimkaaa, quick example, type isn the terminal:  TZ=CET date; TZ=UTC date; TZ=Hongkong date; TZ=Montreal date
[13:49] <bekks> Phoenixxl: Do you know what a .deb file is?
[13:49] <Phoenixxl> bekks, do you know what sarcasm is ?
[13:49] <Phoenixxl> bekks, i'd apreciate yopu hold back
[13:50] <james-> Ok so I found what I did... I had my mounted drives on my unity launcher and accidently clicked unlock from launcher. Now when I try to mount a volume it don't show in Unity, and I can't figure out how to make it so they go back to the launcher when I mount them. Is it possible to go back"?
[13:50] <maksimkaaa> SaberX01: this is what is was looking for :)
[13:51] <Phoenixxl> bekks, saying you don't know would have been just fine. You'll live.
 I recently updated from Ubuntu 11.04 to 12.4 LTS.. So, I am on unity now and whenever Istart in normal mode, the screen distorts and system crashes! This never happened when I was using Gnome! Also, my computer still works fine when I boot in fail safe graphics mode. Any thoughts?
[13:51] <pc> hi, can anybody please help me? My printer stopped printing in Ubuntu suddenly. I did nothing - no updates, no installing software in Ubuntu, only simple using of Ubuntu like photos in Gimp, writing in OpenOffice, sometimes browsing internet. Can somebody help please?
[13:51] <XYZ93> hi
[13:51] <j_f-f> Hi
[13:52] <bekks> Phoenixxl: I do know the answer and I told it to you. I you dont know what a .deb file is, dont blame others.
[13:52] <fatjon> hi. i wan't to install the update from the "Software Updater" but it show me (Packege operation falied, The installation or removal of a software packege falied.) i have ubuntu 13.10
[13:53] <Phoenixxl> bekks, ok , i do know what a deb file is , and a rpn , and k know what aptitude is and apt-get and dpkg
[13:53] <Madhurjya> I recently updated from Ubuntu 11.04 to 12.4 LTS.. So, I am on unity now and whenever Istart in normal mode, the screen distorts and system crashes! This never happened when I was using Gnome! Also, my computer still works fine when I boot in fail safe graphics mode. PLEASE HELP!
[13:53] <xplicit> Whoa slow down eggheads, let me get a pen.
[13:53] <Phoenixxl> bekks, i don't know however where it is conventional to store a sequence number , and i'd really lkike to know that
[13:54] <j_f-f> which package is involved by "window-stack-br[1820]: segfault at 8 ip"
[13:54] <bekks> Phoenixxl: So you know that a .deb is basically a package archive, and that - upon installation - files from the archive are just copied to the filesystem, do you? And those filenames are not generated somehow, they are stored as is in the .deb
[13:54] <bekks> Phoenixxl: I told you that the sequence number is stored in the filename only.
[13:54] <pc> Madhurjya, have you tried run terminal and run sudo apt-get install gnome-panel? then log off from unity and then choose start with gnome?
[13:54] <Phoenixxl> bekks, when generating defaults it always generates the same number
[13:55] <Phoenixxl> bekks, it doesn't read the deb to do that
[13:55] <bekks> Phoenixxl: It does NOT generate whatsoever.
[13:55] <bekks> Phoenixxl: The sequence number i stored statically, in the filename.
[13:55] <bekks> Phoenixxl: If you dont want to accept that, I am out.
[13:55] <Madhurjya> pc, yep! But it crashes in the logon screen,itself
[13:56] <Phoenixxl> bekks, update-rc.D -f someservice remove
[13:56] <pc> Madhurjya, probably caused with lightdm manager - tried to reinstall it?
[13:56] <bekks> Phoenixxl: whatever.
[13:56] <Phoenixxl> bekks, if that survice had sequence number 80 when installed
[13:57] <pc> Madhurjya, and what about cache settings for light dm?
[13:57] <fatjon> hi. i wan't to install the update from the "Software Updater" but it show me (Packege operation falied, The installation or removal of a software packege falied.) i have ubuntu 13.10
[13:57] <Phoenixxl> bekks, when doing a update-rd.d someservice defaults
[13:57] <Phoenixxl> bekks, it will have the same sequence number again
[13:57] <Madhurjya> pc, Do you think it could be a problem with my 1400 X 900 display or my graphics drivers? (It's  an old system)
[13:57] <Phoenixxl> bekks, it doesn't read the .deb again
[13:57] <bekks> Phoenixxl: Of course. because it is stored statically in the file name.
[13:57] <bekks> Phoenixxl: When will you accept that fact?
[13:57] <Phoenixxl> bekks, so it must be stored somewhere
[13:57] <bekks> Phoenixxl: In the filename.
[13:57] <bekks> Phoenixxl: I told you five times now.
[13:58] <hungguru> hi
[13:58] <hungguru> anyone here?
[13:58] <Phoenixxl> bekks, the "file name" is gone after doing a remove
[13:58] <pc> Madhurjya, yes I think yes - I use older Ubuntu on older system, my experience is old system- older Ubuntu
[13:58] <bekks> Phoenixxl: It isnt. It still lifes in /etc/init.d/
[13:58] <gordonjcp> how can I stop windows sticking to the top bar in Unity?
[13:59] <Phoenixxl> bekks, the init script yes , but that doesn't contain the sequence number
[13:59] <Phoenixxl> bekks, it's the first place i looked
[13:59] <fatjon> hi. i wan't to install the update from the "Software Updater" but it show me (Packege operation falied, The installation or removal of a software packege falied.) i have ubuntu 13.10
[13:59] <Madhurjya> pc, Should I try Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[13:59] <bekks> Madhurjya: Depends on your personal choice.
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> Phoenixxl: you may be looking for where update-rc.d is actually being called. Check the install config or post install script
[14:00] <pc> Madhurjya, have a try, but I think the problem might be the version of kernel and adherent libraries, for example I was unable to run new nvidia drivers on 10 yrs old system
[14:01] <Madhurjya> bekks,pc I mean which one do you think would run better in an older system (amd athlon 4600/2GB RAM/128mb NVIDIA integrated nForge Graph.)
[14:01] <SaberX01> gordonjcp, I think they call that sticky edges .. there's some compiz config stuff for it, not sure exactly where it's at.
[14:02] <Phoenixxl> hitsujiTMO, hello , i will have a look. but it must have "default" values somewhere .. i'm not talking about the default 20 here .. anyway , ill have another look.
[14:03] <SaberX01> gordonjcp, Dash >> Display >> Dticky Edges == Off
[14:03] <Madhurjya> pc, Hmmm... Maybe the NVIDIA chipset is the problem!
[14:03] <SaberX01> *Sticky
[14:03] <pc> Madhurjya, I have to go, I hope you would get solution, bye for now (btw Ubuntustudio is interesting)
[14:03] <bekks> Madhurjya: it isnt.
[14:03] <Madhurjya> pc, oky
[14:04] <Madhurjya> bekks, Then what do you think the problem is?
[14:05] <bekks> Madhurjya: I havent read you had any specific problems yet
[14:05] <zzz> Hello everyone, I am using a Dell laptop with Ubuntu 13.10  and I am trying to format my thumb drive. I right click the drive select format and it looks like it's going to format, the drive flashes then it stops formatting and everything is still on it.
[14:05] <ni927534> mrb
[14:05] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: sticky edges are off
[14:05] <Madhurjya> bekks, The problem is that whenever I start Ubunt 12.04 LTS, the display distorts and crashes!
[14:06] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: makes no difference, and I believe that's only for multiple monitors
[14:06] <bekks> Madhurjya: So which nvidia driver did you install?
[14:06] <Phoenixxl> hitsujiTMO, yes , thnx I looked it's hardcoded in the install script , sadly . That means I'll have to manually redo the dante entry if it ever gets updated . bah. thnx.
[14:06] <lucas-arg> do we already have some ubuntu roms for tf300 or razrhd?
[14:07] <SaberX01> gordonjcp,yeah, I have 3 monitors, so maybe why that works there.
[14:07] <Madhurjya> bekks, Well, ths stock driver!
[14:07] <bekks> Madhurjya: So which driver do you use?
[14:08] <vboxuser> hi all!
[14:08] <SaberX01> gordonjcp, Im pretty sure there's some compiz manager stuff too, but I dont know what it is.
[14:08] <Phoenixxl> bekks, if you don't know , just say it . there is no shame in it. "its all upstart" .. I wish it was.
[14:08] <Madhurjya> bekks, It's an integrated nForce Graphics Card *ancient*.. I did not install any driver..
[14:09] <zzz> I can't format my flash drive on ubuntu, I have to use windows :/ can I fix this?
[14:09] <it> hi peeps
[14:09] <gordonjcp> zzz: what happens when you try?
[14:09] <Madhurjya> bekks, which driver should i install?
[14:10] <zzz> gordonjcp, I select format I name the drive what I want it, I hit format it looks like it's going to format, the drive flashes, then it stops and everything is still on the drive
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> zzz  gparted can do that, simply delete the file system on the flash drive
[14:10] <SaberX01> Phoenixxl, I wish they were too. Get them all on one method or another, but the half way buz is irritating.
[14:11] <zzz> MonkeyDust, I didn't think of trying gparted. Hold on let me start it
[14:11] <vboxuser> I just installed Ubuntu server on an old laptop, so: no GUI. I'd like to connect to it my external USB HDD and share it through my house and other PCs (Linux, Windows) using Samba. The thing I need to do is: how can I get my USB HDD automagically mounted at a choosen mountpoint when I plug-in that HDD?
[14:11] <Madhurjya> bekks, you there?
[14:13] <zzz> MonkeyDust, doesnt look like gparted is seeing the drive, but Ubuntu is seeing the drive. Can I send a picture to you on pastebin or do I need to use something else?
[14:13] <it> can i install proper AMD graphic drivers on ubuntu sudio?
[14:13] <bekks> zzz: gdisk -l
[14:13] <Allison43> Madhurjya, pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C video
[14:13] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: for future reference, it's "Edge Resistance" and can't be turned off but can be set to 1 pixel
[14:14] <zzz> bekks, what does that do? I tried to run it I have to install it I just want to know what it is before I install is all.
[14:14] <it> why does ubuntu detects my monitor as a 22 inch goldstar when its a 23 inch
[14:14] <SaberX01> vboxuser, lots of ways to do it, you already know Samab probably best File Share method, here's info on Mount/USB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[14:14] <SaberX01> gordonjcp, Is that in Compiz Mgr?>
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> zzz  with the flash drive plugged it, does     lsblk     see it?
[14:16] <ice9> disabling touch pad while typing is not working! any idea?
[14:16] <it> why does ubuntu detects my monitor as a 22 inch goldstar when its a 23 inch lg tv
[14:16] <zzz> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697156/
[14:17] <it> can i install proper AMD graphic drivers on ubuntu sudio?
[14:17] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: yes
[14:17] <SaberX01> vboxuser, also, for extended info on fstab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[14:17] <SaberX01> gordonjcp, thnks
[14:17] <vboxuser> SaberX01, ty for links... I'm reading this---> http://serverfault.com/questions/414120/how-to-get-usb-devices-to-automount-in-ubuntu-12-04-server
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> zzz  good, i wonder why gparted doesnt see it... are you familiar with fdisk?
[14:18] <zzz> MonkeyDust, no but i'm willing to learn :)
[14:18] <Allison43> it, yes , but ask in #ubuntu-studio
[14:19] <jonez813> i have a lvm filesystem that i cant seem to mount. i have looked online but i keep betting bad superblock errors and short read error. is there anything i can do to mount /dev/hpbun/root and recover my data. external hdd took a dive off a table...
[14:19] <it> copy paste is your friend:)
[14:19] <vboxuser> SaberX01, but the thing I need to do is just like Windows, you know, inserting an USB device and it will be automagically mounted/opened. Something like this---> http://www.howtogeek.com/96298/assign-a-static-drive-letter-to-a-usb-drive-in-windows-7/ Understood?
[14:19] <gordonjcp> jonez813: you may well have more than one superblock
[14:20] <anton02> how do u install samba4
[14:20] <SaberX01> vboxuser, Yeah, usbmount is not installed by default on the server.
[14:20] <zzz> MonkeyDust, I messed up i'm sorry. gparted sees it I didn't select it from the menu on top i just went to close it and realized my error
[14:20] <bekks> !info samba4
[14:20] <bekks> anton02: apt-get install samba4
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> zzz  ok, great
[14:20] <jonez813> gordonjcp: i have done mke2fs -n to find the superblocks, and tried mount -b *allsuperblockslisted* with no luck
[14:20] <zzz> MonkeyDust, even though it recognizes it I don't see a place to select format
[14:20] <vboxuser> SaberX01, but the thing I need to do is just like Windows, you know, inserting an USB device and it will be automagically mounted/opened. Something like this---> http://www.howtogeek.com/96298/assign-a-static-drive-letter-to-a-usb-drive-in-windows-7/ Understood?
[14:21] <anton02> bekks: nice
[14:21] <zzz> MonkeyDust, I can right click on it and I see something that says format to but it is gray and i cant clicck
[14:21] <bekks> anton02: I told you the same a few days ago :)
[14:21] <vboxuser> SaberX01, or even something like this---> https://github.com/LemonBoy/ldm
[14:22] <SaberX01> vboxuser, I dont know what that's talking about, Windows part.
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> zzz  or simply "delete"?
[14:22] <anton02> bekks: lol it wasnt me i dont think
[14:22] <zzz> MonkeyDust, delete is also gray
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> zzz  odd... maybe you have to unmount it first, does that make sense?
[14:23] <SaberX01> vboxuser, A server not like a desktop, it's not setup to do loads of restarts., Generally, you set it up, and it stays up and runnign for long periods of time. Allot of these tool, while they function on servers, are for DE users.
[14:24] <zzz> MonkeyDust, I will that hold on. I wouldn't know what makes sense I have used Linux for a while now but I am no problem solver yet by any means, to me you are the expert :)
[14:25] <SaberX01> vboxuser, So wiht that in mind, create a mount point, mount the device, add to fstab if you like, config Samba or SSHFS, and you should eb good to go.
[14:25] <vboxuser> SaberX01, let me explain again. Maybe I'm wrong! :p So, having no DE, I need to make my external USB HDD automagically mounted always at the same mountpoint when I simply plug-in this device
[14:25] <jjavaholic> is it possible to disable the autohide feature of scribes?
[14:25] <zzz> MonkeyDust, nope, i unmounted and gparted dont see it
[14:25] <anton02> jjavaholic: do you like coffee for the taste or the caffeine?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> zzz  in time, you'll be the one helping others
[14:25] <llutz> vboxuser: write an udev-rule, here are some ideas how http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[14:26] <jjavaholic> what about both?
[14:26] <anton02> jjavaholic: or are you referring to the programming language?
[14:27] <zzz> MonkeyDust, I look forward to it, you have helped me a lot the passed week. I don't have the same nickname as I had before because it wouldn't go through for some reason, but I am taking networking classes and really need to get this stuff down.
[14:27] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, You can edit /etc/udev/rules.d/85-my_rule.rules
[14:27] <jjavaholic> programming language
[14:27] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, if you know your device id and vendor ID
[14:28] <anton02> im sort of a caffeineholic
[14:28] <vboxuser> llutz ty for link
[14:28] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", SYSFS{idVendor}=="YOURVENDORID", SYSFS{idProduct}=="YOURPRODUCTID", RUN+="YOURSCRIPT"
[14:28] <vboxuser> llutz, will be a looong study. Thins I've never seen before
[14:29] <SaberX01> vboxuser, Or, if you want to get even more indepth, install NFS on your external HDD: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-file-system.html
[14:29] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, you can have it mounted when inserted using that script
[14:29] <vboxuser> Phoenixxl, the funny thing I've nevere scripted in my life!!! :p
[14:29] <zzz> MonkeyDust, Should I try formatting  using the overwrite existing data with 0's (slow) ? What does it mean to do that?
[14:30] <llutz> vboxuser: there is always a 1st time, so good luck
[14:30] <Phoenixxl> if you've used a command prompt you're half way set
[14:30] <vboxuser> llutz, something I need to know/read/study to learn some basic scripting?
[14:30] <vboxuser> yuo're all talking about bash-scripting?
[14:30] <SaberX01> vboxuser, Not being funny, but an external USB device not the best choice for a server. If ya have room in the box, that's a better place for it.
[14:31] <llutz> vboxuser: for a start it would be helpful to know how to use a cli-editor like vim/nano/mcedit/...
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> zzz  not sure what you mean, but do some reading here (dry technical stuff) http://www.howtogeek.com/106873/how-to-use-fdisk-to-manage-partitions-on-linux/
[14:31] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, ash yes, it's basically listing commands to perform and having the ability to put in iterations and selections.
[14:32] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, all programming is sequences , interations and selections.
[14:32] <vboxuser> SaberX01, I know, but it's a easy server. Simple PS3MediaServer streaming and 2 simple Samba shares. The server isn't always turned on and it's not essential
[14:32] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, if you can program in one language you can program in any
[14:32] <SaberX01> vboxuser, may as well get used to scripts now, you gonna do allot of editing to set things up.
[14:33] <vboxuser> So... I can use nano. But how someone do/learn bash-scripting???
[14:33] <SaberX01> Yes
[14:33] <vboxuser> from where should I start? :p
[14:33] <SaberX01> Nano my editor of choice
[14:33] <llutz> vboxuser: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[14:33] <SaberX01> ^^ that's a good place to start, then the LDP Advanced Bash Scripting Guide as well.
[14:34] <llutz> later then http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ vboxuser
[14:34] <dimitris> hello and happy new year
[14:35] <dimitris> can someone help me on a wifi problem i have on ubuntu?
[14:35] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, #!/bin/sh
[14:35] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, echo Hello World
[14:35] <SaberX01> better choice #!/usr/bin/env bash
[14:35] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, there you go , that's your first script
[14:35] <vboxuser> ok guys... Entering here to ask how to automount devices and exiting learning bash scripting... :p
[14:36] <RndManos> hey
[14:36] <JohnnyL> gpe-tetris is too small screen-wise, can someone recommend a good, safe tetris to install locally on Ubuntu?
[14:36] <Phoenixxl> vboxuser, chmod + x the file
[14:36] <zzz> MonkeyDust, can you make sure i'm right? According to the output of lsblk and the info on the site would i do sudo fdisk /sdb/sdb1? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697156/
[14:36] <llutz> Phoenixxl: #!/bin/bash if he follows those guides, or he'll get some suprises later
[14:36] <Phoenixxl> SaberX01, I'm old , lol
[14:36] <JohnnyL> trying to install emacs  now.
[14:37] <SaberX01> /bin/sh goes to Dash anyway
[14:37] <vboxuser> :D
[14:37] <it> stupid irc
[14:38] <Phoenixxl> half my computers are BSD
[14:38] <SaberX01> Man, I tried for ages to get used to emacs .. never could get comfy with that one, allthough allot of folks like it.
[14:38] <Phoenixxl> THE HORROR
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> zzz  good, you're already learning, now be careful
[14:39] <zzz> MonkeyDust, awesome :) I will try it now
[14:40] <zzz> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697257/
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> zzz what are you trying to do?
[14:42] <it> this irc is full of enemies
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> zzz  it's sdb, not sdb1
[14:42] <SaberX01> think he needs /dev/sdb1 not  /sdb/sdb1
[14:42] <dimitris> hello
[14:43] <dimitris> is this a support channel for ubuntu?
[14:43] <Allison43> zzz, /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: yes
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> dimitris  yes
[14:43] <SaberX01> es
[14:43] <it> nop its NSA operation
[14:43] <SaberX01> Whoops, dimitris Yes is UB support channel
[14:43] <dimitris> can someone help me lease with a wifi problem on ubuntu?
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> it please refrain from the trolling
[14:44] <it> i seem to have hit a nerv
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: can you explain the issue please
[14:44] <SaberX01> !details | dimitris
[14:44] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, trying to format my thumb drive using the fdisk command because Ubuntu won't format it when I right click and gparted won't let me. MonkeyDust Ill try sdb instead one sec
[14:45] <zzz> MonkeyDust, like this? sudo fdisk /sdb
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: fdisk doesn't format. it only sets partition tables.  how exactly is gparted not letting you format?
[14:45] <dimitris> ok
[14:46] <RndManos> PART
[14:46] <dimitris> i installed ubuntu on a friends pc
[14:46] <dimitris> and wifi was working proper
[14:46] <dimitris> now wifi doesnt work any more
[14:46] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, when I right click on the drive format is grayed out, and delete, is grayed out. When I go to files and right click on the drive I can click format, when I do it looks like it's going to work and the drive flashes then everything stops and the drive dont format.
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: can you pastebin the output of: lspci       from that machine?
[14:47] <RndManos> PART
[14:47] <Kruppt> zzz: sudo fdisk -l to be sure your going to be working on proper device (drive, partition) once you have determined which drive you would run "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb" IF you found that to be true via the output of "fdisk -l"
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: is there an (!) by the drive name?
[14:47] <Guest74483> dimitris sometimes it helps to disable additional drivers for wifi adapter
[14:47] <Guest74483> and reboot
[14:47] <dimitris> guys i am not very good with these....
[14:47] <dimitris> i need very detailed help...
[14:48] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, nope, only ! is next to my NTFS partitions which i'm not worried about.
[14:48] <Guest74483> dimitris: go to software & updates --> last tab on the right (drivers), disable wifi driver
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[14:48] <dimitris> if someone could please personal message me...
[14:48] <anton02> i installed samba4, but when I right click folder and click share, ubuntu asks me to install package 'samba'. What should I do?
[14:49] <it> anton02, dont install samn
[14:49] <Keanu73> it: Samn? what's that?
[14:49] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697317/
[14:49] <it> it taliban code
[14:49] <Keanu73> aha..
[14:49] <Keanu73> samn?
[14:50] <Keanu73> i'll look it up on Wikipedia
[14:50] <it> yes go figigure it out
[14:50] <Keanu73> hmm, not on wikipedia
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: can you also pastebin the output of: mount
[14:50] <Keanu73> anton02: What's samba?
[14:51] <anton02> Keanu73: are you new?
[14:51] <it> sheck on wikipedia
[14:51] <llutz> zzz: all you want to do is to format your usb-drive? "sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdb1"
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: are you just trying to format as fat32?
[14:51] <anton02> !samba
[14:51] <Keanu73> anton02: No, I used Ubuntu 12.04 before
[14:51] <bittyx> Can anyone help with a tiny problem? If I run "gem -v" from my terminal, I get the current version, but "sudo gem -v" says "sudo: gem: command not found". Why could that happen?
[14:52] <anton02> !samba4
[14:52] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697324/ there wasnt any output it didnt throw an error but it didnt do anything either. llutz yes thats all i wanna do is format the drive :)
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: mount     not  : mount    sorry
[14:53] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697329/
[14:53] <Keanu73> anton02: Is this samba?: http://www.samba.org/
[14:53] <SaberX01> bittyx, If I recall correctly, it's setup that way so RVM is installed per user, in the $USER home dirs and not at the system level.
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: its mounted. thats why it can't be formatted. use the command llutz specified to umount and format it.
[14:54] <bittyx> SaberX01: So I *can't* run "gem" through sudo, but I also don't need to?
[14:54] <JoshSyn> is there a good GUI alarm software?
[14:55] <anton02> Keanu73: yes
[14:56] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, llutz command not found
[14:56] <it> fuck ubuntu im buying a MAC
[14:56] <SaberX01> bittyx, If you rellay need / want sudo to use it: sudo chown -R <your_user_name>:<your_group> ~/.rbenv  but, you should check with the package maintainers before doing that.
[14:56] <Keanu73> ah
[14:56] <Kruppt> zzz:sudo umount /media/james/PENDRIVE
[14:57] <NisstrX> how can I load ubuntu to a pc and let it run only one app
[14:57] <SaberX01> bittyx, As far as needign too .. I dont think so, RVM is installed in the users /home .. so it has nothgin to do with system paths, therefore, sudo no needed.
[14:57] <Hitisantaz> hey im testing, please ignore
[14:57] <llutz> NisstrX: kiosk-mode is what you're looking for
[14:57] <bittyx> SaberX01: Okay, it seems this is also causing different problems ("gem install sass" works, but "sass" is not in my path after that, so I can't run it at all), so I'll try and ask elsewhere, somewhere ruby or sass specific. Thanks!
[14:58] <Hitisantaz> Will i get any good performance gaming on amd?
[14:58] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, the command Kruppt gave me worked, sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdb1. Im going to put this in my notes, will I always have to use the command line to format my drives?
[14:58] <dimitris> hello can i pm someone to help me on ubuntu?
[14:58] <SaberX01> bittyx, That's what Id' recommend, asking in #ruby or #gem .. but Im pretty sure you dont need sudo for gems.
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: no, just make sure you unmount the filesystem before trying to format the partition. you can unmount in gparted too
[15:01] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO can you please help me?
[15:02] <Jacob999> Hello everyone: does anyone how to uninstall Ubuntu from an old macbook in order to install lubuntu?
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: can you pastebin the output of: lspci       from that machine? its a terminal command
[15:02] <enedil> and why?
[15:02] <SaberX01> Jacob999, Just install right over top is you dont need anythign off the machine first.
[15:03] <dimitris> so i just type lspci on terminal and press enter?
[15:03] <enedil> u can install package lubuntu-desktop
[15:03] <enedil> sudo apt-get install lubuntu desktop
[15:04] <Jacob999> will sudo apt-get install lubuntu desktop uninstall ubuntu?
[15:04] <SaberX01> That depends on how old the orig Ubuntu install is, it's it's 10.04 or before that wont work.
[15:04] <RndManos_> <3
[15:04] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO i did that and got a big list on terminal
[15:04] <SaberX01> Jacob999, What version is your original Ubuntu install ?
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: can you copy the output and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com   then copy the url here
[15:05] <Jacob999> looking it up now. I think its fairly recent.
[15:05] <dimitris> ok
[15:05] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, For some reason I can't unmount anywhere
[15:05] <JohnnyL> gpe-tetris is too small screen-wise, can someone recommend a good, safe tetris to install locally on Ubuntu?
[15:06] <it_> LOL
[15:06] <Jacob999> ubuntu 12.10
[15:07] <it_> im using kali linux and joined irc to look for vics
[15:07] <enedil> Jacob999: It's ok
[15:07] <llutz> !ot | it_
[15:07] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, ok i restarted gparted and was able to unmount. but I still have the problem. When I right click and select format it dont do anything
[15:07] <it_> lulz
[15:07] <Jacob999> awesome thanks
[15:07] <JohnnyL> emacs is useless for tetris.
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: hmm, thats a little odd
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: but does it format from the command line?
[15:08] <coolbob-arm> would this be the place to ask ubuntu 13.04 arm questions?
[15:09] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO i did what you told me what i do next?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: can you paste the link it generate here please
[15:09] <SaberX01> Jacob999, so ya got two options, just install lubuntu-desktop or dl the lubuntu ISO and fresh 13.10 over top, which probably better idea as 12.10 no longer supported.
[15:09] <dimitris> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697410/
[15:10] <dimitris> this?
[15:10] <Blackkatt> Okey, just formated a drive to etx4 using Gparted, but I have no right to use it drive, cannot write anything on it
[15:10] <Blackkatt> says that root is owner so i cant change the security settings
[15:10] <llutz> !permissions | Blackkatt
[15:10] <it_> are you reading contents from my term?
[15:11] <Jacob999> saberx01, okay so you would recommend me updating ubuntu to 13.10?
[15:11] <it_> WARN: / is world writable!
[15:11] <it_> WARN: / is group writable!
[15:11] <it_> cool
[15:12] <solisan> what is this?
[15:12] <SaberX01> Jacob999, I would yes, 13.04 is about EOL, 13.10 is EOL in Apr-2014 .. then 14.04 is Live LTS.
[15:12] <it_> a sandwich
[15:12] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: is it easy to fix you think?
[15:12] <llutz> it_: do you have anything ubuntu-related to say? this is not a place for your random nonsense
[15:12] <solisan> ok by
[15:12] <Blackkatt> llutz, yes, i get that, but i still dont know how to give me access, why does GUI Gparted set root as owner?
[15:12] <Layne> Hey, I hope someone can answer me a quick licensing question.
[15:13] <Layne> I was wondering if I have to pay any license fees if I want to create a VM with ubuntu as development environment for a project that has commercial value. Note, ubuntu itself won't be the hosting OS it's just that I want to use it as development environment. The finished product can run on any OS. It's jsut that I'm using ubuntu to develop a commercial product.
[15:13] <it_> !ops llutz
[15:13] <llutz> Blackkatt: because only root can do what you did.
[15:13] <Blackkatt> llutz,  yes, but how do i set the owner to "me" ?
[15:13] <Jacob999> saberx01, alright ill give it a shot. thanks
[15:13] <SaberX01> Jacob999, I take that back, 13.10 is EOL in July 2014 not APR
[15:13] <llutz> Blackkatt: man chown
[15:13] <Blackkatt> i use the GUI version i  totally new to this
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: can you pastebin output of: rfkill list all
[15:13] <it_> man chroot
[15:13] <Blackkatt> of gparted that is
[15:14] <Jacob999> Saberx01, okay well ill try that. Thank you.
[15:14] <SaberX01> Jacob999, The you can do a release-upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 in April, should good to go then.
[15:14] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: and then do the link thing again?
[15:14] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, yes it formats using sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdb1
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> zzz  you made it?
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: yes, same again
[15:14] <DJones> it_: Do you have a support issue, please don't use the !op's trigger unless it is a channel emergency
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: may be an issue with gparted then. sounds a little unusual
[15:15] <coolbob-arm> is there a better irc app then loqui for ubuntu?
[15:16] <SaberX01> Jacob999, You ahve one other option too, you can install 12.04 LTS now, then do one release-upgrade in April to 14.04 LTS ether way works good.
[15:16] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: i get nothing back with this commant
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> coolbob-arm  xchat and irssi are popular
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: ok then, try: lspci -knn | grep Network -A 3
[15:18] <zzz> MonkeyDust, kind of. When I use the sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdb1 command i can format with no problem. For some reason I have to use gparted to unmount the flash drive and then when I try formatting it it don't format it flashes like its going to and does nothing.
[15:18] <ausjke_> i saw my sysstat cron has a debian-sa1 command, but debian-sa1 is under /usr/lib/sysstat, which is not on typical PATH, how could it be executed by a cron?
[15:18] <SaberX01> coolbob-arm, IRC client info, lots to choose form:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:18] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, yes unusual to me as well
[15:19] <it_> LOL why does ubuntu detects my monitor as a 22 inch goldstar when its a 23 inch
[15:19] <thom_r> it might be a 22.9 inch but is marketed as a 23
[15:19] <llutz> ausjke_: is it called with full path or do they set extra environment in crontab for it?
[15:19] <SaberX01> what he said ^^^ 22.99"
[15:19] <it_> its not goldstar
[15:19] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: how do i put this line on my keyboard after -knn?
[15:20] <ausjke_> llutz: neither, but this is the 'default' ubuntu files
[15:20] <it_> I WIN ubuntu SYCKS
[15:20] <thom_r> what kind of monitor is it?
[15:20] <it_> lg fhd tv
[15:20] <ausjke_> llutz: which mean i may be missing something basic
[15:20] <Keanu73> <rt AT NO SPAM ubuntu DOT com>.
[15:20] <Keanu73> o.o
[15:20] <it_> the sound isnt working
[15:20] <ausjke_> llutz: oops sorry it's in PATH
[15:21] <ausjke_> PATH=/usr/lib/sysstat:/usr/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: depends on your keyboard. sometimes its shift + \      on some its besides 1 on the top row. some times its marked as ¦
[15:21] <flammi> does somebody know how to install a firmware update for my touchpad without windows? :-D
[15:21] <Jacob999> SaberX01, okay, so let me get this straight since I am very new to linux. But all I need to do is sudoapt-get install lubuntu desktop?
[15:21] <Keanu73> I wanna get ubuntu LogBot in my channel :D
[15:21] <bekks> flammi: When the manufacturer requires Windows to do so, then there is no other way.
[15:22] <flammi> bekks: the firmware update is packaged in an exe ...
[15:22] <bekks> flammi: Then it requires Windows :)
[15:22] <monty_hall> is there a recommended app to use google drive?
[15:22] <killerbart10> when i try and boot from ubuntu it starts says booting/loading ubuntu the boots back into KDE.
[15:23] <flammi> bekks: hmm... i hoped that it is not necessary to install windows on my laptop...
[15:23] <flammi> bekks: but thx ;-)
[15:23] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697490/
[15:23] <killerbart10> anyone?
[15:23] <blacklight> hi all, i'm experiencing problems on my saucy x64 when starting or configuring most of my audio apps (audacity, lmms, mixxx...), they take at least 20 seconds to start and on stdout i see these messages
[15:24] <blacklight> http://sprunge.us/UbOG
[15:24] <blacklight> from what i read around the net, it is an issue with bluez-alsa, but uninstalling bluetooth support for alsa is not an option for me
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: which version of ubuntu did you say this was again?
[15:24] <it_> #ubuntu-studio
[15:24] <killerbart10> when i try and boot from ubuntu it starts says booting/loading ubuntu the boots back into KDE.
[15:25] <blacklight> this is perfectly reproducible if you install bluez-alsa on x64 and then you simply go with this python code:
[15:25] <blacklight> >>> import pyaudio
[15:25] <blacklight> >>> p = pyaudio.PyAudio()
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: can you also tell me the output of: sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[15:25] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu 13.10 32bit
[15:26] <killerbart10> when i try and boot from ubuntu it starts says booting/loading ubuntu the boots back into KDE.
[15:26] <blacklight> the system takes at least 20 seconds for initializing the audio and those messages pop out, there are folks reporting this issue even 2 years ago, it looks confirmed, but no workaround or solution, is anyone aware of some progress?
[15:26] <it_> try av linux
[15:26] <SaberX01> blacklight, if bluez is causing the issue, I understand you cant remove it perm, but for test the fix, maybe submit a bug report with before and after.
[15:27] <blacklight> SaberX01: bluez is the issue, and there are already many bug reports for this, for example here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/361615
[15:27] <blacklight> but so far no one as provided a solution as far as i know
[15:28] <blacklight> (that bug was actually reported in 2009..)
[15:28] <SaberX01> blacklight, maybe refreshing it with new data will bring it out more I dont know.
[15:29] <alfredo> hello folks
[15:29] <sk1pper> hi folks, which linux/ubuntu distribution would you suggest for an acer aspire one with 1GB of RAM and CPU at 1.6GHz ?
[15:30] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697519/
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> sk1pper: lubuntu or xubuntu
[15:30] <gauss>  /msg NickServ identify k@cl6jat
[15:30] <SaberX01> blacklight, also, could go into #ubuntu-bugs and ask about the disposition there as well.
[15:30] <arc__> All distros
[15:30] <Blackkatt> llutz,  btw next time recommend the already installed app for Ubuntu  "Disks" it formats and set right permissions (me)
[15:30] <llutz> gauss: time to change password
[15:30] <blacklight> SaberX01: thanks i'll try that ^^
[15:30] <llutz> blacklight: i won't
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: do you know how to load an older kernel from the grub menu?
[15:30] <Blackkatt> llutz,  strange as it just did!
[15:30] <sk1pper> hitsujiTMO: thanks, where can I download from?
[15:31] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: unfotunately no my friend
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> sk1pper: all the releases are here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[15:31] <llutz> Blackkatt: nice that it works, but i only recommend universal solutions (aka shell-commands) since i don't know what software someone has installed or not
[15:32] <sk1pper> hitsujiTMO: okay, thanks
[15:32] <Blackkatt> llutz,  its installed by  default, thats why i mention it
[15:33] <zzz> MonkeyDust, I also have another issue maybe you could shed some light on :) I am on a laptop. When I log in I have to use the synclient tapbutton1=1 command to be able to tap my mouse pad to select things. is there a way I can fix this?
[15:33] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: can you reboot the laptop and after the bios screen hit shift or escape to bring up the grub menu. go to the advanced menu and select an older kernel from the list. see if that allows the wifi to work
[15:33] <it_> is someone using AirOS?
[15:33] <llutz> Blackkatt: does it also come with mini.iso, server, lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu?
[15:34] <Blackkatt> so next n00b that comes in, you can tell them instead making them even more confused
[15:34] <Blackkatt> llutz,  oh am sry, i thought i was in the ubuntu channel, ooooh snap I am :p
[15:34] <laktopii> zale
[15:34] <arc__> Ohh u just got burnt
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: you need yo add a display-setup-script to lightdm that calls that command
[15:35] <it_> who?
[15:35] <llutz> Blackkatt: you are but given flavours are supported here too
[15:35] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, sounds promising but i'm a lost noob lol
[15:35] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: do you mean restart the laptop and then push esc or shift? who is the bios screen?
[15:35] <it_> naab
[15:36] <it_> anyone using mint?
[15:36] <it_> the arabic version of ubuntu
[15:36] <Blackkatt> is it possible to show transfer speed when moving/copying ?
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: the bios screen is the initial screen that comes on when you boot
[15:36] <Blackkatt> nm
[15:36] <DJones> !offtopic | it_
[15:36] <Blackkatt> it came up after a few seconds :)
[15:36] <Blackkatt> I'm so loving Ubuntu
[15:37] <it_> ubuntu will love you back
[15:37] <Blackkatt> it_,  hahaha good to know ;9
[15:37] <SaberX01> Blackkatt, depends of the app your using. rsync, curl, wget all do that sort of thing.
[15:37] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, I should also point out I am using the cinnamon window manager on Ubuntu 13.10 when I have this issue. When I use saucy i have no problem with the mouse.
[15:39] <Blackkatt> SaberX01, what now?
[15:39] <SaberX01> dl speeds
[15:39] <SaberX01> or xfer speeds you asked about
[15:39] <Blackkatt> SaberX01,  aah, i was talking about copy/moving
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: try adding a file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/90-synclient.conf      with the contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697553/
[15:39] <Blackkatt> from drive to drive
[15:39] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: sorry cant find it... anyway.... i think i bothered you alot... thank you very much for your time
[15:40] <it_> how do i flash bios firmware on ubuntu?
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> it_ flashrom
[15:40] <it_> cool
[15:41] <joker__> hello everyone !
[15:41] <dimitris> hitsujiTMO: sorry cant find it... anyway.... i think i bothered you alot... thank you very much for your time
[15:41] <matrix_> happy new year
[15:42] <joker__> does anyone know how to run xchat from behind a https proxy .. i cannot ise xchat because of it
[15:42] <it_> if you make it
[15:42] <blacklight> Blackkatt: you can use rsync for checking transfer speed, or do like me (cp and then watch -n 1 'ls -lh your_target_file' for checking how much data is transferred)
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> dimitris: I think the issue is a missing firmware from the latest kernel update. you need to boot an older kernel to get wifi back
[15:42] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697575/
[15:43] <SaberX01> blacklight, Blackkatt and if you want a nice little progress bar, pipe it though an app called:   pv
[15:43] <Blackkatt> blacklight, thnx no need it came up after a few seconds on the transfer bar
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: i meant for you to create the file. it doesn't exist
[15:44] <jonez813> i have a lvm filesystem that i cant seem to mount. i have looked online but i keep betting bad superblock errors and short read error. is there anything i can do to mount /dev/hpbun/root and recover my data. external hdd took a dive off a table...
[15:44] <it_> can i use that with eufi bios?
[15:44] <blacklight> jonez813: have you already tried fsck -y on the drive?
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> jonez813: if it took a dive then its most likely physical damage. is there any rattling when you shake it?
[15:45] <jonez813> blacklight: not that specific command, used fsck already, i will try that command
[15:46] <it_> antontimed out :/
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> jonez813: can you check the smart data for the drive
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> it_: if it supports you uefi then yes
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> your*
[15:46] <jonez813> hitsujiTMO: i dont think physical damage, no symptoms like clicking or rattling it can mount the boot partition, just not the root
[15:47] <joker__> i am behind a https proxy of my institute .. i want to use xchat on ubuntu 12.04 .. i tried changing settings in xchat but there are no options to change the type of proxy to https .. when i use http , i get a forbidden error .. can anyone please help
[15:47] <it_> use webchat
[15:48] <SaberX01> joker__, http://xchat.org/faq/#q25
[15:48] <it_> tiger question
[15:48] <it_> triger
[15:48] <joker__> i tried that but  there is no option to change proxy type to https
[15:49] <it_> use webchat
[15:49] <SaberX01> joker__, Exactly, faq #25 says: is only supported for HTTP and Socks5.
[15:49] <it_> hes no joker SaberX01
[15:50] <jonez813> blacklight: fsck -y returned fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/mapper/hpbun--vg-root http://pastebin.com/8wLh1vKw
[15:50] <joker__> <saberx01, can u tell me  client on ubuntu to run https proxy
[15:50] <jonez813> hitsujiTMO: i will look into checking the smart data
[15:51] <dddns> Good day! Tell me please, which squid log analyzers can save page titles?
[15:51] <SaberX01> joker__, No I do not know off top of my head, but you could start reading up on these clients: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:53] <joker__> SaberX01 , thanks a lot .. i will try finding one ..
[15:58] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, im lost on how to create it
[15:59] <jonez813> hitsujiTMO: it would smart data is not available on this device.
[15:59] <jonez813> hitsujiTMO: *appear*
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/90-synclient.conf                  then paste the text: ctrl + o to save. ctrl + x to close
[16:01] <nephis> hi all
[16:02] <nephis> you hou
[16:04] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, I did it but it didn't work
[16:05] <mobal> hello
[16:07] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6697728/
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: hmm. may need to be done in the user session. try adding the command to ~/.xprofile
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: might aswell: sudo rm /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/90-synclient.conf
[16:11] <spearhead> hitsujiTMO: would lightdm load the configs at login or boot? he might need to restart for it to load them...
[16:11] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, james@james-Inspiron-N4010:~$ ~/.xprofile
[16:11] <zzz> bash: /home/james/.xprofile: No such file or directory
[16:12] <chemist^> hello everyone
[16:13] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, ~/c.xprofile didn
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: again: nano ~/.xprofile                         add the single line line: synclient tapbutton1=1
[16:15] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, should I restart to see if it works?
[16:15] <A1Recon> Where are the stream saved files stored in the PC? http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/vlc-streaming.html
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: just relog
[16:15] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, ok one sec
[16:16] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, still didn't take place :/
[16:17] <A1Recon> My question was about VLC..... just in case you didn't notice....
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> zzz: i'm out of idea then. ~/.xprofile is souced by lightdm when you login. so it anthing should work then that should
[16:18] <zzz> hitsujiTMO, when I type nemo ~/ .xprofile synclient tapbutton1=1 shows in it
[16:21] <spearhead> A1Recon: you have to define where you want the file to be stored and what you want it to be named. if you follow the how to when it gets to the part where you are in the destinations config you click the add button next to the dropdown that says file and browse to where you want the file to go...
[16:24] <Keanu73> !foo
[16:24] <Keanu73> o.o
[16:24] <Keanu73> !foo is bar
[16:24] <Keanu73> damn
[16:25] <gfr> lol
[16:26] <HisaoNakai> cristian_c: Excuse me? o.o
[16:26] <chemist^> hello hitsujiTMO :) remember me? :P
[16:30] <A1Recon> spearhead: What would happen if I did not click next and went ahead with stream? Shouldn't the file be saved somewhere by default?
[16:32] <spearhead> A1Recon: if I understand how stream works in vlc the bytes it gets from the source are stored in ram until they are displayed then they are discarded. if that is not the case then the stream might get saved in /tmp but would be deleted as soon as you stopped streaming. also that would be a raw data file and you would have to process it with some application before it would be usable.
[16:32] <jonez813> hitsujiTMO: this is a LVM that im trying to mount, not sure if  i said that originally
[16:33] <SaberX01> A1Recon, they are most likely in ~/Downlaods/ if you've not changed any preference, or so the docs say.
[16:33] <spearhead> A1Recon: but I am pretty sure it is not saved because you cannot rewind the stream
[16:34] <SaberX01> Yeah, from reading the docs, you have to tell it to record or whatever.
[16:35] <hayer_> So I wrote a simple script to connect to my VPN if I was not connected( http://pastebin.com/R09g2Vhe ) -- But where should I put it? in /etc/network/if-up.d/ ?
[16:35] <chemist^> hey people, what's up
[16:35] <chemist^> i've got a question regarding SSL and TOR using irc... i have successfully connected to freenode with tor and ssl auth...
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> not sure if this is relevant but you can record stuff with kazam
[16:35] <chemist^> is it possible to connect to ircnet servers using this method?
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> !freenode | chemist^
[16:36] <chemist^> lotuspsychje ? :) i made it work with freenode
[16:37] <chemist^> my question is ... if it's possible to connect to ircnet servers
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> chemist^: ok maybe ask on ircnet network?
[16:37] <chemist^> they do not have such support channels as freenode does :D
[16:38] <alberto> cio
[16:38] <Myrtti> chemist^: how is that related to Ubuntu?
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> chemist^: well, its not really an ubuntu issue neither right :p
[16:39] <spearhead> chemist^: have you tried it?
[16:39] <jhutchins> !tor
[16:39] <chemist^> lotuspsychje, IMHO i don't believe it's possible to auth with ssl on ircnet because you need to have a registered nickname with nickserv....which is not an option on ircnet servers
[16:39] <chemist^> spearhead, yes...
[16:39] <chemist^> lotuspsychje, :D no it's not
[16:39] <chemist^> Myrtti, i'm using an irc client on ubuntu :P
[16:40] <Myrtti> you're already asking in the somewhat more right place, which is #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:40] <Myrtti> so let's move there
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[16:41] <compdoc> yikes
[16:42] <chemist^> wow :D
[16:42] <jhutchins> There's a new one.
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> alot of botnets playin lately
[16:43] <hayer_> So I wrote a simple script to connect to my VPN if I was not connected( http://pastebin.com/R09g2Vhe ) -- But where should I put it? in /etc/network/if-up.d/ ?
[16:43] <phutchins> interesting lol
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> i wish peeps would actually learn to not install malware
[16:44] <hayer_> I wish peeps would actually care about my questions :(
[16:44] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, :D
[16:44] <Plasmastar> I heard this pretty interesting tip to get a load of bots for starting a net.
[16:44]  * hayer_ goes full retard. Dog is dead.
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> !patience | hayer_
[16:44] <Plasmastar> I thought it was funny as hell.
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> hey chemist^
[16:45] <hayer_> lotuspsychje: know how I can ignore parts, joins, etc in irssi?
[16:45] <hayer_> 90% of text on screen is parts and joins.
[16:45] <Plasmastar> hayer_: Apparently peeps can trick pedophiles into installing their warez.
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> !quiet
[16:45] <spearhead> hayer_: https://pthree.org/2010/03/12/irssi-handling-joinspartsquits/
[16:46] <DJones> !quietirssi | hayer_
[16:46] <nashant> someone please help. Chrome keeps causing such high iowait that my laptop becomes completely unresponsive. This is the syslog from the offending time period http://pastebin.com/ZNXZLfsP
[16:47] <spearhead> hayer_: how often do you want your script to run?
[16:47] <limikael> hello, how can I create a bootable ubuntu usb (for installation on my eee) using mac os x?
[16:48] <dominic__> ok, so how does this even work, no one is talking
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: how much ram do you have?
[16:48] <hayer_> spearhead: when ever I connect to internet -- cba connecting to VPN everytime I connect to internet
[16:48] <spearhead> !patience | dominic__
[16:49] <Hydr0p0nX> can anyone point me to current documentation on getting hardware video decoding to work with nouveau driver?
[16:49] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: 4GB, tested absolutely fine with memtest
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> limikael: maybe there's a unetbootin for mac?
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: can you pastebin output of: free -m
[16:49] <limikael> lotuspsychje: hm… googling...
[16:49] <dominic__> it's working
[16:50] <spearhead> hayer_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/258580/how-to-run-a-script-every-time-internet-connects
[16:51] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8270608
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: do you have any resouce intensive chrome plugins?  is this any page or only specific pages?
[16:52] <limikael> lotuspsychje: ah there is..
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> limikael: yes, just found it :p use the iso with unetbootin
[16:53] <limikael> lotuspsychje: do i need to format it first or something?
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> limikael: maybe fat32
[16:54] <limikael> lotuspsychje: ok will try first without formatting to see what happens… if not i will format
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> limikael: good luck and welcome to the ubuntu experience :p
[16:57] <flammi> does somebody else here also has this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/741869
[16:57] <flammi> and knows a good workaround?
[16:58] <limikael> lotuspsychje: ty.. :)
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> flammi: remap they in unity-tweak-tool or whatnot
[16:58] <Ilmen> Hello
[16:59] <limikael> lotuspsychje: ah yes it seems to be booting… :)
[17:00] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: I've disabled all chrome plugins. It doesn't seem to be site specific. I've done a forced reboot and reopened the same pages in chrome when it asked, and had no issue
[17:00] <Blackkatt> hmm the driver for ntfs filsystem on ubuntu seems very good, so what have I to gain using ext4 instead?
[17:02] <Myrtti> Blackkatt: native tools to fix it if it goes pear shaped
[17:02] <limikael> lotuspsychje: hm no… i just came to a syslinux prompt (actually, it is debian i'm trying to install, not ubuntu)
[17:02] <Myrtti> Blackkatt: afaik also better ACL support (obviously)
[17:03] <flammi> hitsujiTMO: thx, i have already searched for something like the unity-tweak-tool
[17:03] <Blackkatt> Myrtti, that means if something does wrong right?
[17:03] <Blackkatt> goes*
[17:03] <Myrtti> Blackkatt: yes.
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: the trace seems to suggest that 2 chrome processes crashed when they hit 1.5gb + 1gb of memory usage. the high io would be the pc swapping
[17:03] <Blackkatt> Myrtti,  good point.
[17:03] <Blackkatt> that other part what is that?
[17:04] <Blackkatt> ACL?
[17:04] <Ilmen> I have a problem: when I do apt-get update, I get a "404 Error: not found" on a PPA I added some time ago, "ppa:thefirstm/quassel", if I remember correctly; yet, when I try removing it with apt-add-repository --remove, I get the following response:  "Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:thefirstm/quassel'.  Please check that the PPA name or format is correct."
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> flammi: in unity tweak tool you can remap those keys in unity -> additional
[17:05] <Ilmen> What did I wrong?
[17:05] <Blackkatt> could anyone recommend something like FireWire (system info app) ?
[17:05] <limikael> lotuspsychje: trying with ubuntu instead...
[17:05] <Myrtti> Blackkatt: if the computer is used by several people, you can assign directories and files to be owned by users and groups and what those can do (read write execute)
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | Ilmen
[17:06] <Ilmen> Is it necessary to remove the software installed from the repository to delete?
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> Ilmen: what software is it?
[17:06] <Ilmen> Quassel
[17:06] <Blackkatt> Myrtti,  ah, thnx for the info. I'm gonna leave one drive ntfs where games are going to be install (have dual boot, win8 for gaming) but I saw an option that said when formating (compatible with most ntfs system) would you care to elaborate ? :9
[17:07] <Blackkatt> if you even know what i mean :D
[17:07] <Myrtti> Blackkatt: nope :-|
[17:07] <Blackkatt> with "Drives"
[17:07] <Blackkatt> theres that option for selecting filesystem to format too
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> Ilmen: not necessary if it doesn't replace system packages. you can delete the specific apt source from the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ manually
[17:08] <Ilmen> hmm okay
[17:08] <Ilmen> thanks
[17:08] <Ilmen> I have another similar problem though
[17:09] <Ilmen> Since several weeks I have another repository that isn't working anymore
[17:09] <Ilmen> but this one is official and I can't update my software anymore because of it, it seems
[17:10] <Ilmen> "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main amd64 Packages
[17:10] <Ilmen>   404  Not Found"
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> Ilmen: thats not an official repo. thats a ppa
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> Ilmen: what ppa is it?
[17:11] <Ilmen> Weird, I don't remember having added this ppa
[17:12] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: It seems to me like for some reason chrome has a huge memory leak issue on my system, but I don't know why
[17:12] <Ilmen> Unless it's related to the error with Quassel's?
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> Ilmen: can you pastebin the output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[17:12] <Ilmen> sure
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: natually i'd think it was a plugin, but if you've removed them all then look at the extensions
[17:16] <ravigehlot> I am running Ubuntu Server. On this computer, I only have FluxBox as my window manager. I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop but it chocks when it tries to install libreoffice-common. What is going on?
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: whats the error you get?
[17:16] <daftykins> odd to install a server distro then install X.
[17:17] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: libreoffice-common it is not going to be installed
[17:17] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I run apt-get install -f but that doesn't correct it
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: whats the actual error. it spouts it out when it tries to run the libreoffice-common post install script
[17:18] <Ilmen> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/pPELCrcb
[17:18] <ayiga> hi
[17:19] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: libreoffice-core : Depends : libreoffice-common > 1:4.1.3 but it is not going to be installed
[17:19] <alket> Hi, In Ubuntu 13.10 clicking at the clock, the calendar shows up, at the end of calendar there is Add Event, that button doesn't work, it shows nothing
[17:19] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: that's the error
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: have you any ppas installed?
[17:19] <zzz> Hello again everyone, got a quick question. My trash shows it has stuff in it but i click it and its emptyh
[17:20] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: not for libreoffice
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> Ilmen: hmm. youve a lot of ppas installed. try commenting them out one at a time till you find the offending one
[17:20] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: is that what I need then?
[17:21] <ayiga> when i tape ifconfig commande nothin is coming , someone could help me pls
[17:21] <Ilmen> hitsujiTMO: # for commentaries?
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: no. but one of the ppas may override a common dependency causing your problem
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> Ilmen: yup
[17:21] <flammi> can someone recommend a alternative to nagios for network monitoring?
[17:21] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: /etc/apt/sources.list?
[17:21] <daftykins> spiceworks?
[17:21] <daftykins> ayiga: nothing at all or an error?
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: ppas are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/    have you added repos to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:22] <ayiga> Sorry, command-not-found has crashed! Please file a bug report at:
[17:22] <ayiga> https://bugs.launchpad.net/command-not-found/+filebug
[17:22] <ayiga> Please include the following information with the report:
[17:22] <ayiga> command-not-found version: 0.2.44
[17:22] <daftykins> ayiga: /sbin/ifconfig ?
[17:22] <ayiga> here it is th messag who it's comin
[17:22] <flammi> daftykins: is spiceworks open-source?
[17:22] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: they were added on sources.list.d
[17:23] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: sources.list is intact
[17:23] <daftykins> flammi: can't remember off-hand
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: ok. what ppas are they?
[17:23] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: can I just delete the ones I no longer need?
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: no
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | ravigehlot
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> ayiga: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:24] <ayiga> daftykins what should i do
[17:25] <daftykins> ayiga: what happens when you type "/sbin/ifconfig" ?
[17:25] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: gnome3, birdie-team, google-chrome, kubuntu-ppa-backports-saucy, kubuntu-ppa-ppa-saucy, olivier-berten, ricotz, upubuntu-com-office, webup8team
[17:25] <flammi> hmm, i am not sure if spiceworks is the right option, can somebody else recommend a good network monitoring solution?
[17:25] <flammi> daftykins: or have you another idea?
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: many of them could be the culpret. especially gnome3.
[17:26] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: true...
[17:26] <Laurenceb_> hi
[17:26] <Laurenceb_> i have a problem, i cant connect to wifi
[17:26] <Laurenceb_> i see no wifi networks
[17:26] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: because libreoffice is broken, it won't let me install ppa-purge
[17:26] <Laurenceb_> can anyone help me?
[17:26] <ayiga> yeah now it is ok
[17:26] <ayiga> but how can i solve this problem
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: wget the .deb and install it with: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[17:28] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I don't want libre office...I want it out
[17:28] <ayiga> i just want , when i tape ifconfig that the result came
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> ayiga: whats output of: echo $PATH
[17:28] <daftykins> ayiga: well it's not a problem. i'd imagine your user just isn't setup right. what version is this?
[17:28] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: sudo apt-get -f install isn't doing the trick
[17:28] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: how do I remove it then
[17:28] <ayiga> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: its a dependency so you have to install it afaik.
[17:29] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: let me try synaptic on fluxbox, brb
[17:29] <connor__> I keep getting  bash: ./configure.ac: Permission denied
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> ayiga: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:29] <Laurenceb_> hi, can anone help me with wifi issues?
[17:29] <Laurenceb_> on ibm thinkpad
[17:29] <daftykins> Laurenceb_: just ask with detail
[17:30] <ayiga> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
[17:30] <ayiga> ayiga@ayiga-HP-G62-Notebook-PC:~$ cat /etc/issue
[17:30] <ayiga> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:30] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: it is uninstalling it using synaptic
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: ok
[17:30] <Laurenceb_> ok so i was connected via wifi, then suddenly connection went
[17:30] <Laurenceb_> now i cant see a single network
[17:30] <connor__> I'm getting bash: ./configure.ac: Permission denied
[17:30] <connor__> but I chmod the permissions to 777
[17:30] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: How does ppa-purge works? If I purge the PPA, will it also purge the software on my machine?
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> ayiga: is this the initially created user?
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: yes
[17:31] <ayiga> yeah
[17:31] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: that's pretty cool.
[17:31] <trijntje> Laurenceb_: define suddenly
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: it reverts it back to the packages in the repo
[17:31] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: nice
[17:31] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: that's what I want
[17:31] <Laurenceb_> trijntje: i was using the net, then no connection
[17:31] <Ilmen> hitsujiTMO: Well, I appended ".disabled" to both of Quassel's ppa source files, and now everything works fine, so it was the responsible
[17:31] <Ilmen> Thanks for your support :)
[17:32] <Ilmen> *to both file names
[17:32] <trijntje> Laurenceb_: have you tried rebooting? replugging the wifi dongle, that kind of thing?
[17:32] <Laurenceb_> its built in wifi
[17:32] <connor__> so I chmoded a file to 777 but i get a permission denied when i run it
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> ayiga: it seems you've modified the $PATH var somehow. have you tried to add entries to it at some point?
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> ayiga: can you also paste the output of: groups
[17:32] <ayiga> i dont think so
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Ilmen
[17:33] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: with ppa-purge, how do I know the repo/sub-directory
[17:33] <Ilmen> :)
[17:33] <ayiga> so do u have any idea to solve this problem pls
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: you can detemine that from the url in the ppa
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> ayiga: can you also paste the output of: groups
[17:34] <SaberX01> connor__, 777 is wrong, but where is the file your trying to run ?
[17:34] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: k
[17:35] <connor__> DaberX01: on a folder in my desktop
[17:35] <connor__> SaberX01: on a folder in my desktop
[17:35] <ayiga> i did not get u bro
[17:35] <SPFINC> anybody know of any deep net irc channels?
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: for instance, if the url is: http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu  then the ppa is: ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[17:36] <trijntje> Laurenceb_: reboot?
[17:36] <Laurenceb_> id rather not
[17:36] <Laurenceb_> im wondering if its a hardware failure
[17:36] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: okay. fair enough
[17:36] <Laurenceb_> where would i see mini pci card issues?
[17:36] <trijntje> Laurenceb_: why not? Could be some random thingy that will go away when you reboot
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> ayiga: please type: groups                into the terminal, and paste the output of the command here
[17:37] <Laurenceb_> id have to make sure everything is saved ok
[17:37] <Laurenceb_> its a mess on here atm....
[17:37] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: synaptic is still working on fix the broken packages. after that, I will purge the ppa. Question...is this the equivalent of trying to unsinstall/remove a package?
[17:37] <jost> I want to update one package and its dependencies to a specific version (not the newest one). How do I do that?
[17:38] <trijntje> Laurenceb_: what is the output of ifconfig in a terminal? Does it show a wlan?
[17:38] <DJones> !pinning | jost
[17:38] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:38] <SaberX01> connor__, in a terminal <Ctrl+Alt+T>:  chmod +x ~/path/to/file/filename   should set the execute bit ..
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: its prob gonna uninstall any package that depends on the offending package
[17:38] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: right...that's what I have a problem with...
[17:39] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: that's a major issue with linux...uinstalling dependency packages
[17:39] <Laurenceb_> trijntje: i see wlan0
[17:39] <Laurenceb_>   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[17:39] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: my issue began after I installed Blender 3D on KDE. I didn't like it and uninstalled it. It managed to uninstall CORE KDE packages....KDE was messed up after that. I am not sure how that can be allowed.
[17:40] <varunendra> !pastebin | Laurenceb_
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[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: most of the time the issue is cause by people not knowing how to propperly create packages + ppas that don't conflict.
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: ouch
[17:40] <varunendra> Laurenceb_, please show us the output of : "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[17:40] <Laurenceb_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6698265/
[17:41] <Laurenceb_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6698270/
[17:41] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I agree. Well, PPAs are at my own risk. It is not checked or monitored by Canonnical. So I understand that I took a risk. I just couldn't fathom how uninstalling Blender could uninstall core KDE features.
[17:41] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: that blew me away
[17:41] <jost> DJones: thats not what I want - the package is installed in version 2.0.10, and I want to update to 2.0.23, but not to a newer version, which is also available. Its a one-time thing, and it should not prevent any further updates. I've googled that this command should work: `apt-get install <package-name>=2.0.23`, but I'm not sure if it works fine with the already installed package?
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: thats a bit of an odd one alright
[17:42] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: true...
[17:42] <varunendra> Laurenceb_, did you plug in a cable (ethernet) just before wifi disconnected? What is that "th0" interface?
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> jost: where exactly is the package? is it in backports?]
[17:42] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: What I need to do is I need to create an ISO image of my drive. One that I can restore to when shit hits the fan. I am using duplicity to backup important files. I didn't realize that I needed more than just a simple backup.
[17:43] <Laurenceb_> it should say eth0, c&p fail
[17:43] <Laurenceb_> varunendra: no, it just disconnected suddenly
[17:43] <Laurenceb_> no apparent reason
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: dd ftw :P
[17:43] <jost> hitsujiTMO: it is in the zentyal repositories
[17:43] <ravigehlot> ravigehlot: to an external HHD, right?
[17:44] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: HDD
[17:44] <jost> hitsujiTMO: and quite old
[17:44] <varunendra> Laurenceb_, was the cable connected all the time?
[17:44] <Laurenceb_> no
[17:44] <Laurenceb_> its was on wifi
[17:44] <Laurenceb_> no cable
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> jost: then you do want apt pinning. give the zentyal repos a low or negative priority and gave that single package from zentyal repo a priority higher than 500
[17:45] <Laurenceb_> fixed it
[17:45] <Laurenceb_> i think
[17:45] <varunendra> Laurenceb_, your ifconfig output shows eth0 as connected (there is an IP, and traffic), while the wlan0 has no IP - most probably  disconnected
[17:46] <Laurenceb_> i think a nm-applet issue
[17:46] <Laurenceb_> how do i spawn a new nm-applet ?
[17:46] <Laurenceb_> i killed the old one
[17:46] <jost> hitsujiTMO: and there is no way around that stuff? Something like "do an apt-get upgrade, but for that package only to 2.0.23, not to the newest 3.x"?
[17:46] <varunendra> Laurenceb_, Alt-F2 > nm-applet
[17:46] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: I was thinking extensions when you said plugins. The only extensions I've got enabled are AdBlock and a backspace to go back one
[17:47] <varunendra> Laurenceb_, Network Manager is designed to prefer ethernet if a connection is detected. You sure no cable is plugged in?
[17:48] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: The plugins enabled are PDF viewer, native client, widevine, java and flash
[17:50] <nashant> I've got another question. Is there any way to set up power profiles like in windows? In windows I would have a night profile and a day profile, but I can't find any way of doing this in ubuntu
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> jost: you can do: apt-get install package/repocodename          but you still need to set a lower priority for the zyntyal repo
[17:51] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: synaptic managed to remove the package
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: disable all the plugins first and test
[17:52] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: I don't even know how to test it properly. Dunno how to replicate the situation
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: how often did it happen?
[17:53] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: Today? a couple of times. Yesterday a few
[17:54] <nashant> Could it be a conflict between the chrome built in flash plugin and the system flash plugin?
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: then just try with them disabled. if you go 12 hours without a crash you know one of them is a culprit. enable them one at a time till you find the cause.      no, chomes plugin is disabled if it finds the system flash plugin
[17:56] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: ppa-purge says it can't find the list of packages
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: hmm, interesting. does that ppa still exist?
[17:57] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: its on /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: as in look it up on launchpad. soo if its still being hosted
[17:58] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: k
[17:58] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: Does it show as disabled? Because if it's supposed to, then that could be the issue because mine showed as enabled
[17:59] <kablaa> i just intalled the ubuntu 12.04 32 bit server on an old computer, it was able to install the operating system just fine, but when i rebooted my monitor "says fd0 read error" and then "invalid input"
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: no, you shouldn't even see the pepper plugin if there's a system plugin available
[18:00] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: it is there...I had a typo
[18:01] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the help
[18:01] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: its removing it
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: np
[18:02] <nashant> hitsujiTMO: Well this looks liek the problem then. I've got system flash installed, and the Adobe Flash Plugin was showing as enabled in chrome. Just disabled it, and now running my system monitor looks a lot happier playing flash videos
[18:02] <nashant> Wonder how it got itself confused
[18:02] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: as far as removing dependecies...it will give you a change to review the dependencies...
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: sweet
[18:02] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: even though....it's hard to tell what that dependency is for anyways...
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: dont think so. i think it just does its thing
[18:03] <kablaa>  i just intalled the ubuntu 12.04 32 bit server on an old computer, it was able to install the operating system just fine, but when i rebooted my monitor "says fd0 read error" and then "invalid input
[18:03] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I am going to remove it and then remove the other stuff (I will check launchpad first) and then try to re-install KDE...
[18:04] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: are you any familiar with dual monitors set up for console use?
[18:04] <iceroot> kablaa: fd0 read error sounds like you a trying to boot from floppy? fd0 is floppy
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: as in in cli?
[18:04] <kablaa> iceroot, no, I'm uing a cd rom
[18:05] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: Nope. Just the standard linux console that you get when you press Ctrl+Alt+number
[18:05] <kablaa> iceroot, a few other people have posted this problem, but i haven't found a solution
[18:05] <shawnp1963> hello all.  Is there a channel dedicated to Steam for Ubuntu?
[18:06] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I have got 2 monitors. The 1st one is using a the laptop screen, the 2nd one uses a nice wide screen. The wide screen one isn't using all it's space...
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: ahh. not really. for such a situation i use dwm.
[18:06] <savid> How can I install Java 32-bit on ubuntu and switch using the update-alternatives system?
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: the console canonly mirror the output afaik
[18:07] <savid> Is there a specific package for 32-bit java?
[18:07] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: hummm
[18:07] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: k...
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> savid: why 32bit?
[18:07] <shawnp1963> ?
[18:07] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: there might be a way to tell the BIOS to use the external VGA port as primary
[18:07] <savid> hitsujiTMO, I need it for Juniper VPN
[18:08] <ubuntawy> i have lvm 50G inside it /dev/sda1 50GB i want to resize sda1 to 10 and leave the rest unpartitiond
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> savid: you can try installing with the openjdk-7-jre:i386  or whatever package. but 64bit should work just as easily
[18:11] <savid> hitsujiTMO, for whatever reason, juniper requires 32bit (has an error msg that explicitly says so). I'll try openjdk.
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> savid: just add on :i386 to the end of whatever package you need and it should install the 32bit package
[18:13] <homie> hu
[18:15] <kablaa>  i just intalled the ubuntu 12.04 32 bit server on an old computer, it was able to install the operating system just fine, but when i rebooted my monitor "says fd0 read error" and then "invalid input
[18:16] <daftykins> kablaa: sounds like it's trying to read a floppy disk drive, maybe change BIOS to say there isn't one
[18:17] <kablaa> how do i do that?
[18:17] <hayer_> is there a /etc/network/if-post-up.d ?
[18:17] <daftykins> kablaa: delete/F2 on power on as normal and change 3.5" floppy to none instead of present, if it has it
[18:18] <zer01> hello, how stable is the use of vpn on ubuntu phone ? anyone tried out yet ? and btw when (estimated) are the first phone sales going to start ?
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> hayer_: no. use /etc/network/if-up.d/
[18:18] <llutz> hayer_: if-up.d
[18:18] <kablaa> daftykins, can i do that now that the OS is installed or do I have to reinstall it ?
[18:18] <daftykins> zer01: #ubuntu-touch for phone talk
[18:18] <daftykins> kablaa: just do it now.
[18:18] <kablaa> ok, I'll give that  try
[18:18] <killerbart10> why wont it let me boot in to ubuntu 12.04.3
[18:19] <jgautier> I just bought this controller to use with ubuntu and my xbmc setup http://www.amazon.com/2-4GHz-Remote-Controller-Android-Set-top-box/dp/B00DIXSPA8 the controller is fine but the power button on it doesnt actually send anything to the computer it just turns the controller off and on.  Is there way to detect whether or not there is a 2.4ghz connection to the dongle and then perform and action based on that?
[18:19] <killerbart10> why wont it let me boot in to ubuntu 12.04.3
[18:20] <daftykins> killerbart10: repeating a question with no information is NOT going to get you an answer
[18:20] <hayer_> hitsujiTMO: is that executed AFTER it connects to the network?
[18:21] <homie> is there any1
[18:21] <homie> ?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> hayer_: yes.
[18:22] <killerbart10> im trying to boot ubuntu 12.04 from sd card but when i select my boot device to the sd card it says Loading/booting ubuntu then takes me back to kde
[18:22] <daftykins> homie: anyone what?
[18:22] <homie> hey dafty got stuck for videos in firefox
[18:22] <homie> flash player
[18:24] <homie> will someone help me please
[18:24] <homie> >
[18:24] <Seven_Six_Two> I have fstab entries on saucy client mounting precise server nfs exports, which are now failing "init: idmapd-mounting (/home/username/mount) main process (612) killed by TERM signal"
[18:24] <daftykins> homie: is flash installed?
[18:25] <killerbart10> ?
[18:25] <waykool99> have very technical hardware question. want to install different versions of Ubuntu. have several SATA and IDE internal drives and DVD RW drives. 10 year old dell optiplex. Motherboard has 2 SATA and IDE has single ribbon cable w/Master Slave. Right now, have 2 2- TB SATA drives, 1 IDE dvdrw, 1 old IDE drive. I noticed BIOS reacts odd if boot order is either SATA or IDE first. question.....
[18:25] <homie> no ... when i install it automatically its says no plugin..
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> hayer_: its covered in: man interfaces
[18:26] <Utopy> I have one problem for configure iptables rules
[18:26] <Utopy> I accept all trafic input
[18:27] <Utopy> and one rule output is : iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner 1000 -j ACCEPT
[18:27] <Utopy> ping is not possible :/
[18:29] <waykool99> bought new SATA DVDRW drive. if i install 1 SATA drive, 1 SATA DVDRW, 2 IDE drives, how might i setup GRUB? should i install IDE drives, next version Ubuntu to SATA drive, update/upgrade GRUB? or is there a better way?
[18:29] <usi> hi
[18:29] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: are you still there?
[18:29] <usi> i need help how to hacking
[18:29] <killerbart10> im trying to boot ubuntu 12.04 from sd card but when i select my boot device to the sd card it says Loading/booting ubuntu then takes me back to kde
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: just about :P
[18:30] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: some ppas have .distUpgrade...what's that
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: they were disabled during a dist upgrade.
[18:30] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: .....k
[18:30] <daftykins> waykool99: disconnect drives, keep just the one you want Ubuntu on in for the install, then plug them back in after
[18:31] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I am going for a reboot and then I will run apt-get update, upgrade and dist-upgrade...then will try to remove those ppas, again
[18:31] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: is that how you would treat it?
[18:32] <Pinkamena_D> does anyone know if it's possible to scroll to the center of a page when viewing a pdf
[18:32] <lars762> hello
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: remove the .distUpgrade just before using ppa-purge
[18:32] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: hummm...good idea
[18:32] <waykool99> if i go the RAID route, does RAID only allow 1 OS? or can you create separate partitions within the RAID?
[18:33] <lars762> is /etc/shadow empty without a root password? i just set up a new box and there is an entry in etc/shadow for root.is this normal
[18:34] <ikonia> lars762: it's fine
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> lars762: there's always going to be an entry for root. instead of a password you'll see either ! or *. * = disabled password. ! = disabled account
[18:35] <lars762> no ! or *, just a hash
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> lars762: if you see a hash for root. then you've created a root password
[18:36] <lars762> and if i didn't?
[18:36] <ikonia> lars762: is this a default ubuntu install, yes/no
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> lars762: then i'd ask for: cat /etc/issue
[18:37] <waykool99> thank you Daft. good suggestion
[18:42] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: that did it brb
[18:45] <StrawHat> hey
[18:45] <StrawHat> wasup guys
[18:45] <oxsyn> How can i change the default save location for the screenshot tool in ubuntu 13.10 desktop?
[18:46] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: feels fresh again ;)
[18:46] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: thanks!
[18:46] <StrawHat> what do  u mean
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | ravigehlot
[18:46] <StrawHat> ox
[18:47] <StrawHat> :P
[18:47] <wandernauta> Hi all! I have some problems with tearing with the nouveau driver and fullscreen (HD) video as well as YouTube. Am I just SOL or is there a magic go-do-smooth-video button? I don't care about 3D performance. Card is a NVidia NVS-somethingsomething I believe.
[18:48] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I am still getting the login screen for KDE...even after I removed the PPA...
[18:48] <StrawHat> wander
[18:48] <StrawHat> it might be a ur gfx card
[18:48] <StrawHat> but i doubt it
[18:48] <bekks> wandernauta: Why dont you use the nvidia drivers then?
[18:48] <wandernauta> StrawHat, Framerate is better on Windows + no tearing.
[18:48] <wandernauta> bekks, I thought 2D performance was similar between the two, and I dislike the binary blob
[18:48] <StrawHat> I mean are u using firefox for youtube?
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: that would be from the kde login package in ubuntu repos
[18:49] <wandernauta> StrawHat, Chrome, but there's also tearing if I use mplayer or vlc
[18:49] <bekks> wandernauta: the performance is pretty different.
[18:49] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: so the PPA doesn't remove the software...it only restores it to the former state...
[18:49] <wandernauta> bekks, Yes, for 3D.
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: you can change the greeter in your lightdm config if you wish
[18:49] <Beldar> oxsyn, My guess is there may be a control in dconf-editor
[18:49] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: this isn't the same as removing
[18:49] <StrawHat> umm
[18:49] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: KDE is still installed
[18:49] <bekks> wandernauta: Even for 2D.
[18:50] <StrawHat> wander ur using nvidia
[18:50] <StrawHat> drivers right?
[18:50] <StrawHat> and there all updated?
[18:50] <wandernauta> StrawHat, No, nouveau I belive.
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: it removes the ppa packages and reverts them to the packages in the repo.
[18:50] <Essence1> Hi, I am trying to install an ubuntu server onto my other computer and when trying to create a LVM group between two drives it says it cannot create group and if i check virtual console 4 it gives me a partman-lvm: Incorrect metadata area header checksum error, anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[18:50] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: confused...
[18:50] <StrawHat> try updating ur gfx card dirvers
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: yup its still installed, but you shouldn't have any conflicts now
[18:51] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: The reason why I use PPAs is because the package doesn't exist in the repo, right?
[18:51] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: there are no conflicts
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: the repo contains updated packages. kde itself is in the ubuntu repos
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: the PPA contains updated packages. kde itself is in the ubuntu repos
[18:52] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: oh
[18:52] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I see
[18:52] <wandernauta> StrawHat, I've got the newest xserver-xorg-video-nouveau there is I believe.
[18:52] <andrewvos> I have installed 3.12.6 on 13.10 and I don't seem to have AUFS anymore. modprobe aufs tells me this. Used this url http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-kernel-3-12-6-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: the error you were getting earlier about openoffince-common, was a conflict
[18:52] <andrewvos> Can someone enlighten em?
[18:52] <andrewvos> me*
[18:52] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: how can I search the Ubuntu repo then? I was using Launchpad/ppa instead not knowing what I was doing. Launchpad/ppa will have the stuff that is not monitored/checked by Ubuntu.
[18:52] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: like the latest...most updated software
[18:53] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: but Ubuntu does have its own repo of approved/checke packages
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: apt-cache search <package>              or whatnot
[18:53] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: k
[18:53] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I need to completly reinstall KDE...any hints on how to do that?
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: you can also search in software centre
[18:54] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I don't run Unity here...I don't have the Software Center.
[18:54] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: mine is bare bones (Server edition)
[18:54] <Beldar> andrewvos, kernels outside the release are not supported
[18:55] <stazich> hi, is anyone here running Ubuntu on Macbook Air?
[18:56] <andrewvos> stazich: Me. It is not fun. What you need?
[18:56] <bekks> !anyone | stazich
[18:56] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I made a bunch of wrong decisions because I didn't understand how the Ubuntu packaging system worked. Now I seem to have a better understaning of it.
[18:57] <stazich> very interested where to know how ubuntu is making the book. Are you having much difficulties getting anything to run?
[18:57] <needhelpquick> Hello!
[18:57] <stazich> andre
[18:57] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I am glad that by running ppa-purge, I am back to the Ubuntu repo packages...not the PPA ones. I had PPAs for KDE. What for? didn't need those. I was probably running edge here not knowing why those conflicts were showing.
[18:57] <stazich> andrewvos: I was meaning to address you in the last post/.
[18:57] <needhelpquick> I have an issue installing from cd. i keep getting "UNRECOVERABLE ERROR"
[18:57] <bekks> needhelpquick: When doing what exactly?
[18:57] <bekks> needhelpquick: And where exactly does that error appear?
[18:58] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: Now I gotta re-install kubuntu-desktop to have KDE completly restored to its working/tested state. I am having problems with the window decorations now showing the min/max/close buttons and etc
[18:58] <Beldar> needhelpquick, when and where, and have you checked the sum?
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: lol. yup. always check the repos first#
[18:58] <needhelpquick> it takes like 5 mins to load
[18:58] <needhelpquick> then gets to the gui
[18:58] <andrewvos> stazich: It depends on what MBA you have. Most things work for me, except I  had to upgrade to the 3.12.6 kernel because the MBA was running VERY slow. That fixed it, but now I'm not on an official release so I can't run docker because AUFS doesn't work. Brightness doesn't work, the iSight camera doesn't work.
[18:58] <stazich> andrewvos: Why is Ubuntu on macbook air not fun?
[18:58] <needhelpquick> then i get the error, but sometime it stalles at "*starting network...blh blah"
[18:58] <Draton> Beldar: so I nearly got my windows situation sorted, but now the windows bootloader nuked grub, and grub is saying path '/boot/grub' is not readable by grub on boot
[18:59] <Draton> Beldar: any suggestions?
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: play with the theme settings. you home settings prob still have references to items in the ppa version
[18:59] <bekks> needhelpquick: That "blah blah" is the important information we need.
[18:59] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: exactly. How can I re-install kde?
[18:59] <needhelpquick> ok
[18:59] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I want to restore it to its working state
[19:00] <andrewvos> stazich: You thinking of installing ubuntu? What MBA do you have?
[19:00] <Essence1> Hi guys, I am trying to install an ubuntu server onto my other computer and when trying to create a LVM group between two drives it says it cannot create group and if i check virtual console 4 it gives me a partman-lvm: Incorrect metadata area header checksum error, anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[19:00] <Beldar> Draton, Can you run the bootscript or use the bootrepiar apps bootinfo summary?
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: try removing any settings for it in you home directory first
[19:00] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: I will remove .kde
[19:00] <Draton> sure
[19:00] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: that should be where all the settings live, right?
[19:00] <needhelpquick> it stops either in the GUI with the unreconverable error. Or....brb to get that info
[19:00] <Beldar> Draton, Cool, that will give more details.
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: i haven't used kde since 4.0 came outso not sure
[19:01] <Beldar> needhelpquick, Have you checked the sum of the iso/cd/usb?
[19:01] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: what do you use?
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> ravigehlot: unity, openbox + dwm depending on what i'm doing
[19:02] <needhelpquick> Sorry i havnt what am i checking for?
[19:02] <habmala> hi there.. I have been using linux for a long time and have no idea how windows works, I want to make a partition and install windows to it for gaming, is it still true that windows has to be installed at the beginning of the harddrive? I'm using UEFI with GPT
[19:02] <samholmes> How do you upgrade your web server's OS without disrupting the site?
[19:02] <Beldar> !md5sum | needhelpquick use nicks here
[19:03] <pero> habmala: yes, installing windows second will be a pain in the ass
[19:03] <prashant_123456> hello all
[19:03] <needhelpquick> yes its valid
[19:03] <needhelpquick> i just dl'd it
[19:03] <bekks> needhelpquick: Did you compare the md5sum? If you dont, you cant tell wether it is valid.
[19:03] <Beldar> needhelpquick, So you went from not understanding this to its fine in 3 seconds? use nicks here tab complete them.
[19:03] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: k
[19:04] <andrewvos> stazich: PM me if you have any more questions, I can't handle the noise in this place :)
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> habmala: thats never been true (or maybe in the eraly 90s it was). its just easier to setup dual boot if you install windows first.
[19:04] <Guest11915> Hello :) Is it possible to remove the memtest option from the grub boot menu? I have a memtest live cd so I don't need it on there.
[19:04] <needhelpquick> ok well im waiting to get you the other error
[19:05] <needhelpquick> i dont think its the md5...
[19:05] <Beldar> !tab | needhelpquick
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> Guest11915: try disabling the memtest entry in /etc/grub.d/ and run update-grub
[19:05] <needhelpquick> bekks im going to getthe other error in just a sec
[19:06] <bekks> needhelpquick: Check the md5sum.
[19:06] <Beldar> Guest11915, On the installs grub menu?
[19:06] <Draton> Beldar: pasted in pm
[19:06] <habmala> pero: hitsujiTMO: okey, blanking the drive is not an option, thanks anyway..
[19:06] <Guest11915> Beldar, the screen that appears to pick what operating system you would like to boot to
[19:06] <Beldar> Draton, I have pm off post the url here.
[19:06] <olf-folks> you mean grub?
[19:06] <Draton> paste.ubuntu.com/6698731
[19:07] <Beldar> Guest11915, on the install, or the live cd?
[19:07] <Guest11915> Beldar, on the install. I can choose between Ubuntu and Windows and I don't have a need for the memtest option because I have a memtest cd
[19:08] <Beldar> Guest11915, sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+   then ru sudo update-grub
[19:08] <Beldar> run*
[19:09] <needhelpquick> bekks the md5 is good
[19:09] <bekks> needhelpquick: Did you check the cd too, or just the iso?
[19:09] <Draton> Beldar: paste.ubuntu.com/6698731 if you missed it, i'm guessing this is a chroot thing?
[19:09] <needhelpquick> there the same on the cd too
[19:10] <needhelpquick> brb for that other error
[19:10] <Guest11915> Beldar, thank you :) gonna restart and check it out
[19:10] <Beldar> Draton, So sda is the new ssd sdb the old?
[19:10] <bekks> needhelpquick: I doubt you managed to check the checksum of the entire cd within that short time.
[19:10] <Draton> Beldar: sda = old sdb = new
[19:10] <Draton> Beldar: I want windows booting of sdb, ubuntu off of sda
[19:11] <Beldar> Draton, Cool, you could chroot to a grub-install /dev/sda then update grub
[19:11] <needhelpquick> it was right beside me
[19:11] <Draton> Beldar: do you mean mount /dev/sda5 then chroot to it then install?
[19:11] <Foxhoundz> Hello people
[19:12] <needhelpquick> Ok well the Disk that i burnt at 4x seems to be working
[19:12] <Beldar> Draton, If it were me I would want the windows boot in the sda mbr and grub in sdb if that is where you intend ubuntu to be.
[19:12] <bekks> needhelpquick: How did you check the md5sum of the cd?
[19:12] <needhelpquick> ok but now lol i got
[19:12] <needhelpquick> ok but now lol i got" the installer crashed
[19:13] <Draton> Beldar: I want ubuntu on sda, windows on sdb
[19:13] <Beldar> Draton, I only see one ubuntu on the HD, lookm closely at the script sometimes HD's get reversed in order with a usb boot to the live.
[19:14] <Beldar> Draton, so sdb is actually the new ssd?
[19:14] <Draton> Beldar: right, trying to move windows there
[19:14] <Draton> Beldar: but in doing so windows nuked the mbr on sda
[19:15] <needhelpquick> bekks sorry man but the md5 is fine....can we move to something else?
[19:16] <Beldar> Draton, Cool, so if you boot the sdb first does it go straight to windows?
[19:17] <Draton> Beldar: yes, but for some reason it was refing back to the original windows partitions
[19:17] <Guest37841> Beldar, thank you my boot menu is much cleaner now. Could you please tell me how to find the location of a program?
[19:17] <triven_> I am using Ubuntu 64 bit as a gust OS on virutalbox. I need to add myself to the vboxsf group. How can I do this?
[19:17] <Draton> Beldar: also got grub working again
[19:17] <Draton> Beldar: just at a loss for how to fix windows :)
[19:19] <Beldar> Draton, The problem here is that when you have identical windows, grub is not smart enough to ascertain a difference. So if you have that windows imaged I would remove the original, and just leave the new on sdb and update grub that should be it.
[19:19] <needhelpquick> would downloads the 32 bit version on a 64 bit system make a problem?
[19:19] <needhelpquick> bekks
[19:19] <Draton> Beldar: Ok, sounds good, i do have windows imaged, here goes nothing...
[19:20] <Beldar> Draton, Cool, having an image is your best insurance.
[19:20] <Draton> Beldar: So if i nuke sda1 and sda2, then do a update-grub, it should be good to go?
[19:22] <Beldar> Draton, Yeah should be good, at worst you may need to reload the sdb with the bootrec /fixmbr to make sure windows boots on its own, grub should see it and add just it to the grub menu withna grub-update.
[19:22] <Draton> Beldar: alright, here goes nothing.
[19:22] <needhelpquick> bekks i check the md5 its good, when i tryied again i got the the instakker but the it shut down after picking where i want to install
[19:22] <bekks> needhelpquick: I asked you two times how did you check the md5sum of the cd?
[19:22] <needhelpquick> my bad
[19:23] <needhelpquick> with terinal
[19:23] <needhelpquick> c4f4c7a0d03945b78e23d3aa4ce127dc
[19:23] <needhelpquick> is the sum
[19:23] <Beldar> Draton, I would probably run a chkdsk /f/r on windows at some point just to make sure it all tightened up.
[19:23] <Beldar> is*
[19:26] <Draton> Beldar: failed to boot, hoping into a windows drive now to repair the mbr
[19:33] <andrewvos> Is there any way I can get AUFS working with ubuntu 13.10 running 3.12.6?
[19:33] <Beldar> Draton, Not sure what you mean.
[19:33] <Draton> gparted did a logical operation not physical
[19:33] <Draton> the ntfs volumes were still there it just unmapped them in the partition table
[19:33] <needhelpquick> the application lsb_release has closed unexpextedly
[19:34] <Beldar> Draton, Ah on the sda you can remove the ntfs and expand the extended then the logical ubuntu ext4
[19:34] <olf-folks> needhelpquick: i thought lsb-release was a test file in /etc/
[19:34] <Beldar> Draton, extend meaning resize
[19:34] <needhelpquick> i dont know lol
[19:35] <needhelpquick> my instakker is going BONKERS
[19:35] <Draton> Beldar: i put an ext4 in there for now, i need to resize when in a live cd because it's mounted
[19:35] <Beldar> Draton, Yeah, cool sounds like you basically set.
[19:35] <Beldar> your*
[19:35] <Draton> Beldar: baring windows being a pos ;)
[19:36] <user82> hi. how would i get the source code for my current kernel? there is only a generic 3.11 source in the repos as far as i see
[19:36] <Blackkatt> how to get a x10 remote working? :)
[19:36] <Blackkatt> i can move around with it, but most keys do not work
[19:37] <Beldar> Draton, heh, I use W8.1 to have word to write grad papers, I got it cheap through scholastic discounts, it works for some needed tasks.
[19:37] <needhelpquick> old-folks  will a 32 bit version work on 64 bit system
[19:37] <Draton> Beldar: yeah, that and games
[19:38] <artie_> google chrome isn't working in 13.10, any ideas why?? Tried the 32 and 64 bit versions
[19:38] <needhelpquick> is anyone able to help
[19:39] <needhelpquick> application compiz closed unexpectedly
[19:39] <Beldar> artie_, "isn't working" is not a detailed description.
[19:39] <Draton> Beldar: aaand windows nuked mbr again, their bootrec tool doesn't seem to get that it shouldn't be touching my original ssd
[19:39] <Guest95373> chrome usually don work on 13.10... chromium works better
[19:40] <artie_> won't install beldar
[19:40] <Beldar> Draton, If you have the rebuild commands I gave you I would remove the sda and run them to orientate the windows.
[19:41] <Draton> Beldar: alright, let me try that
[19:41] <artie_> Beldar does a ppa have to be installed???
[19:41] <Beldar> artie_, wont install is not really enough info is all, here we need details.
[19:41] <Beldar> artie_, ppa? for what, where are you getting chrome?
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> artie_: did you run: sudo apt-get -f install                after installing the .deb?
[19:42] <needhelpquick> "/usr/shar/jockey/jockey-backend"   ?????
[19:42] <artie_> beldar getting chrome from the website, it trys to open in software cener, but it locks up during the install.
[19:43] <artie_> hitsujiTMO I did not try that, I'll try it now.
[19:44] <Beldar> artie_, I use gdebi, I keep the software center closed, I never use it, you might look at hitsujiTMO's question as well if you get as far as an install. Download chrome install gdebi and try it for the install.
[19:44] <deadmund> the chormium-browser package   is not the best choice?
[19:44] <bekks> !best | deadmund
[19:44] <Beldar> deadmund, best is a subjective opinion
[19:44] <needhelpquick> can someone answer...."will 32 bit ubuntu work on a 64 bit sustem?
[19:45] <deadmund> needhelpquick: yes
[19:45] <bekks> deadmund: chromium is a browser, there are various other browsers too.
[19:45] <needhelpquick> :(
[19:45] <deadmund> needhelpquick: It will work but you won't be able to use more than 3.2GB of RAM
[19:45] <bekks> thats not correct.
[19:45] <bekks> Using PAE, you can even use much more RAM, but never more than 4GB per thread.
[19:45] <Beldar> deadmund, pae kernels allow more ram
[19:46] <deadmund> oh yeah
[19:46] <deadmund> forgot about PAE
[19:46] <Beldar> ;)
[19:46] <needhelpquick> ok thats fine, "usr/sbin/aptd/"  internal error?
[19:47] <needhelpquick> "usr/share/apport/apport-gtk" ??? application problem
[19:47] <needhelpquick> im getting 101 erors
[19:47] <harris> has anyone gotten pipelight working as i got it installed but when i go to watch netflix i get an error
[19:49] <deadmund> needhelpquick: You're going to have to give more details.  "application problem" and "internal error" are very vague.
[19:58] <jhutchins>  
[19:58] <needhelpquick> can anyone explain why i get 10+ erros when i try and instakk
[19:58] <bekks> needhelpquick: You still didnt answer my question how you checked the md5sum of the cd, not the iso. you told the md5sum, but not how you checked it.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> bekks i just followed the instruction u gave me with terminal
[19:58] <bekks> needhelpquick: I didnt even gave you a single instruction.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> the link
[19:58] <jhutchins> needhelpquick: What are you running now?
[19:58] <bekks> needhelpquick: I didnt gave you any link.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> scroll up there were 2 links
[19:58] <needhelpquick> maybe not by you
[19:58] <needhelpquick> but directed to me
[19:58] <bekks> needhelpquick: I didnt gave you any links. So either you state the full command you used to check the md5sum of the cd, or I am resting your case.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> jhutins im not running any os atm
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  then how are you here?
[19:58] <needhelpquick> md5sum "path to iso"
[19:58] <needhelpquick> lol kali on a laptop
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  kali is the os and not supported here
[19:58] <needhelpquick> i have an old desktop i wanna use an an icecast server
[19:58] <bekks> needhelpquick: the cd isnt the iso. So you actually did not check the md5sum of the cd. I am resting your case. Good luck.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> yea...ok im trying to install ubunto 12.04 on my desktop
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  ok, and what goes wrong
[19:58] <needhelpquick> bekks i appreciate your help, would you tell be how to do so
[19:58] <kingston> Using a headless Ubuntu 12.04 with SSH, I've successfully had two Radeon 7990 cards running for a while.
[19:58] <kingston> Then i added a 3de 7990 card and now things got out of hand. There seem to be a problem in xorg.conf stopping me from enabling the fglrx drivers. I'm really not very good with Linux yet, so most of the fixes i've seen so far after searching askubuntu etc. has made more questions then answers i'm afraid. Anyone able to give me some help on getting t
[19:58] <kingston> his 3de card up and running?
[19:58] <FloodBot1> kingston: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> monkeydust i get to the installer and i just get about 10+ erros
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  what's the nature of the errors?
[19:58] <needhelpquick> "internal error" "unrecoverable error"
[19:58] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  sounds like bad media
[19:58] <jhutchins> Sounds like bad hardware.
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  first get your installer and hardware right, then try again
[19:58] <needhelpquick> ok so i burnt onto a DVD-R is that ok?
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  depends on what you burnt and where you got it from
[19:58] <needhelpquick> sorry what do you mean get the instakker and hardware right?
[19:58] <needhelpquick> i dld from the site hours ago
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> !md5 | needhelpquick first this
[19:58] <needhelpquick> and i reburnt onto a diff dvd-r " i checked the md5sum
[19:58] <jhutchins> needhelpquick: Stop for a moment and think about the fact that there are thousdands of successful installs out there.  We're not blaming you, but we do suspect that you are behind at least some of your problems.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> yes i agree
[19:58] <jhutchins> needhelpquick: Given the kinds of errors you're getting, I would try a live CD, possibly something like systemrescuecd that's meant for hardware diagnostics.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> im sorry im giving you everything linux gives me : bekks
[19:58] <jhutchins> needhelpquick: Run memcheck for an hour or so, do some disk checks.  Reseat cards and modules and check cables.
[19:58] <artie_> i tried sudo apt-get install -f chrome, terminal says can't find package chrome.
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  and md5 check your installer, first, it may be corrupt
[19:58] <bekks> needhelpquick: I am out of your problem. I asked you several times wether you checked the md5sum of the cd, you answered yes, while in fact you didnt. I am sorry, but thats not how I am going to support you.
[19:58] <jhutchins> needhelpquick: The 12.04 installer has been out for two years now.  It's not immune to errors or problems, but it's not the code that suspect.
[19:58] <needhelpquick> bekks: i asked you on how to do that, and you didnt respond sry for the trouble
[19:58] <bekks> needhelpquick: I am out of your issue, sorry.
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> !md5 | here's how
[19:59] <pikkemanden> hey
[20:00] <jhutchins> needhelpquick: What have you used to create the CD?
[20:00] <needhelpquick> jhutchins brasero
[20:01] <needhelpquick> i takes probably 8 mins to load up that not right is it?
[20:01] <needhelpquick> monkeydust it takes probably 8 mins to load up that not right is it?
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  what live usb creator did you use? unetbootin?
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> ah, a cd
[20:02] <needhelpquick> MoneyDust im using a DVD-R and i burnt the image with brasero
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> needhelpquick  and what bootable cd creator did you use?
[20:03] <needhelpquick> lol
[20:03] <needhelpquick> i didn5
[20:03] <Beldar> needhelpquick, You did mention this as an old computer, what is the chip and ram?
[20:20] <needhelpquick> Beldar: What would you recommend i RE do its the second dvd-r ive burnt
[20:21] <korisnik> anyone?
[20:21] <Beldar> needhelpquick, Genrally making sure it is athe slowest possible burn is helpful.
[20:21] <korisnik> jebem vammater
[20:21] <needhelpquick> ok thats what ive been thinking the entire time
[20:21] <needhelpquick> ill brb later after i reburn this
[20:21] <needhelpquick> thanks bekks beldar and monkeydust
[20:21] <needhelpquick> and olf-folks_
[20:21] <Beldar> needhelpquick, In brasero I turn off the sum check in the plugins
[20:22] <needhelpquick> ok ill do that
[20:23] <michaelrose> question, I know mint and peppermintos are both based on ubuntu, but are all 3 basically compatible with on another, ie you could use a ppa designed for one in any of the 3?
[20:24] <Beldar> !ppa | michaelrose
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> michaelrose  better ask in the !mint channel
[20:25] <Beldar> michaelrose: notice this "WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk."
[20:25] <spearhead_> Beldar: what is with all the net split stuff?
[20:27] <michaelrose> #ubuntu is full of people mint is relatively a ghost town
[20:27] <bekks> michaelrose: And mint isnt supported in here :)
[20:28] <MrAndy> I guess you only have google left, michaelrose.
[20:28] <michaelrose> thanks anyway
[20:29] <michaelrose> netsplits on other channels as well
[20:30] <Beldar> spearhead_, Did you see the global notice?
[20:32] <Beldar> michaelrose, You might consider just running ubuntu all the OS's you mentioned can be duplicated in ubuntu if you need their tweaks, then you have ubuntu support here anyway.
[20:33] <needhelpquick> beldar is there anything i can do to check this disk before i try it out?
[20:34] <Beldar> needhelpquick, Just the md5sum is all I know.
[20:34] <michaelrose> does upgrading to a new version of ubuntu without doing a fresh installation usually work?
[20:35] <Beldar> michaelrose, depends on how much you tweak it, really a backup is good insurance including an image.
[20:36] <gmachine_24> greetings. is there a way to change the time stamp on a file - or many files, actually - because the files are dated last summer even though they were added to my system a few days ago - and my music scanner doesn't list them in the "new" folder... which it normally does
[20:36] <45PAAZ2AK> !ping
[20:37] <michaelrose> wtf
[20:37] <Beldar> michaelrose, WE do see users here who add ppa's that have to be purged to get a good release upgrade at times, personally I fresh install.
[20:39] <michaelrose> I did the same thing with fedora, in theory it was possible to just change the release and upgrade but frequently something did not work, most of my customizations are going to be in the files in the home directory anyway
[20:39] <gmachine_24> I always do a fresh install; long ago I tried an upgrade - and I mean about 12 years ago or so - it failed, never tried again
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> whats up with irc?
[20:40] <AcidRain2012> being attacked?
[20:41] <flavio> ola boa tarde
[20:41] <michaelrose> I suppose its only a few hours every 6 months but still annoying, I like in theory the idea of a rolling distro but the one example I actually tried ended up being less than desirable in that it managed to completely break twice
[20:41] <Guest53253> alguem pode me insinar como instalar o 2mandvd no ubuntu...
[20:41] <michaelrose> which rather defeats the entire purpose of never having to set everything up again
[20:42] <DJones> !br | Guest53253
[20:42] <AcidRain2012> michaelrose, i agree
[20:42] <michaelrose> another question in this netsplit nonesense do you actually miss statements from people?
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> michaelni, but my last full restore was done in 1hr, sql database, email server, icecast, a few dedicated irc bots, an sms bot, and virtualhosts
[20:43] <spearhead> I got kicked off and had to disconnect and reconnect to the server...
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> ive had practice as ive been around long enough for at least 4 ubuntu EOL's
[20:43] <Myrtti> michaelrose: netsplit splits the channel population to fractions on different sides of the split, so yes it is possible some messages get lots
[20:44] <Myrtti> lost, even
[20:44] <michaelrose> thanks
[20:44] <Guest53253> como faço para entrar na comunidade brasileira
[20:44] <Myrtti> !br | Guest53253
[20:44] <michaelrose> its unfortunate that it broke itself, I rather liked sabayon
[20:45] <michaelrose> I'm going to try ubuntu or a ubuntu based distro shortly
[20:46] <gmachine_24> anyone build a media server with mythbuntu or other variations? thoughts? good? bad? I'm building one to back up music, video and my other computers.
[20:46] <AcidRain2012> michaelrose, id check out kali linux. its pretty nice
[20:46] <AcidRain2012> michaelrose, then again, with the KDE desktop over any linux distro is epic win
[20:46] <gordonjcp> michaelrose: stick to normal Ubuntu
[20:48] <botch> hello
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> ^hax
[20:49] <spearhead> !ping
[20:49] <michaelrose> gordon I tried kubuntu and found it to be unstable earlier
[20:50] <gordonjcp> michaelrose: if I meant kubuntu I'd have said kubuntu
[20:50] <michaelrose> also unity is an abomoniation
[20:50] <gordonjcp> Unity is the only DE worth bothering with
[20:50] <gordonjcp> michaelrose: when you say "unstable" what exactly do you mean?
[20:51] <michaelrose> I mean random kde applications crashed
[20:51] <michaelrose> regularly
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[20:51] <spearhead> gordonjcp: i am currently running gnome 3.10 and i like it better than unity...
[20:51] <gordonjcp> it's been years since I used KDE
[20:51] <michaelrose> and its not really a kde thing as this was loooooong after kde 4.0 and it runs fine in other distros
[20:51] <gordonjcp> I'd be surprised if it was *that* buggy
[20:51] <gordonjcp> michaelrose: did you file a bug?
[20:51] <gordonjcp> spearhead: I don't like Gnome 3
[20:51] <AcidRain2012> michaelrose, with unity being the worst creation since Win95, running KDE i found that alot of GTK applications crash
[20:52] <AcidRain2012> like transmission for example
[20:52] <gordonjcp> spearhead: the little boxes are too big and the fonts are tiny
[20:52] <AcidRain2012> but ktorrent runs fine
[20:52] <michaelrose> Personally I like kde and i3
[20:52] <gordonjcp> if you don't like Unity, it's probably because you're a shut-in neckbeard autist
[20:52] <michaelrose> lol
[20:53] <AcidRain2012> i dont like anything that gives me windows flashbacks
[20:53] <AcidRain2012> i also dont like anything where it takes time and effort to find terminal
[20:53] <spearhead> no its because i used gnome for years and unity is a good wm but it just looks cluttered...
[20:53] <michaelrose> AcidRain2012, unfortunately I have to use windows 7 at work
[20:53] <AcidRain2012> michaelrose, i feel so sry for u brother
[20:53] <gordonjcp> "waaah unity is slow"
[20:54] <gordonjcp> yeah? Here's a fiver, buy yourself 1GB of RAM
[20:54] <gordonjcp> buy a sweetie with the change
[20:54] <gordonjcp> "waaah ubuntu is bloated because of unity!"
[20:54] <michaelrose> hard to beat instant login with i3
[20:54] <pvl1> ^^
[20:54] <gordonjcp> yeah?  It installs in 5GB of disk space
[20:54] <gmachine_24> unity....... me no likes
[20:54] <gordonjcp> I just threw 20 or so 8GB hard disks in the bin
[20:55] <gordonjcp> michaelrose: how often do you log in?
[20:55] <michaelrose> sadly right now frequently my computer is broken and I stuck my hd in my wifes computer
[20:55] <spearhead> gordonjcp: oh yeah? i have ubuntu server running off a 512Mb sd card...
[20:55] <michaelrose> I'll fix it by the end of the month
[20:56] <AcidRain2012> i wouldnt buy a 1gig either. id go ahead and get the 8gig stick ;p
[20:56] <michaelrose> but i3 is still nicer than any of the heavy de
[20:56] <AcidRain2012> michaelrose, link me to i3? i havent seen this one
[20:56] <gordonjcp> spearhead: yes, and I have embedded Linux devices running with 4MB of flash and 8MB of RAM.  I know you can make it really small
[20:57] <michaelrose> http://i3wm.org/
[20:57] <gordonjcp> AcidRain2012: i3 is one of those crappy dark-grey-on-dark-grey pixelly window managers
[20:57] <michaelrose> super simple config file fairly easy to customize
[20:57] <pvl1> gordonjcp: are you looking for eye candy or productivity
[20:57] <gordonjcp> it's a tiling window manager so you can only have one program open at once
[20:57] <pvl1> what
[20:57] <gordonjcp> pvl1: productivity, hence Unity
[20:57] <michaelrose> ummm actually no
[20:57] <pvl1> what is wrong with you
[20:57] <spearhead> gordonjcp: my point is I don't really care how much disk space it takes up... I just care about how easy it is to use and how it looks.
[20:57] <pvl1> IT TILES
[20:58] <pvl1> its  TILING window manager
[20:58] <pvl1> it tiles
[20:58] <Fudus> Windows 1.0 power
[20:58] <gordonjcp> pvl1: just like the 1980s!
[20:58] <michaelrose> I can have 36 desktops one for each letter and number and switch between them by tapping shift then a letter or number
[20:58] <ravigehlot> hitsujiTMO: u there?
[20:58] <gordonjcp> pvl1: every screenshot I've seen of i3 has a bunch of terminals with tiny grey-on-grey pixelly text that looks like hell to read
[20:58] <pvl1> gordonjcp: you want eye candy
[20:58] <gordonjcp> pvl1: how is that productive?
[20:58] <michaelrose> each desktop can have one or more applications but you really don't want more than 3 because all are visible in some configuration
[20:58] <AcidRain2012> lol@i3wm
[20:59] <gordonjcp> pvl1: no, I want productivity
[20:59] <gordonjcp> pvl1: i3 cannot provide it
[20:59] <AcidRain2012> i3 looks insanely lightweight
[20:59] <spearhead> gordonjcp: how long have you been using ubuntu?
[20:59] <pvl1> gordonjcp: because people that atually develop on linux and do networking debugging sit in terminals all day. and i3 is just a window manager. you can picknwhat ever terminal you want
[20:59] <michaelrose> also if you have multple monitors obviously you can have a desktop showing in each monitor
[20:59] <pvl1> the pictures, ppl pick their terminals and colors. just most ppl use uxterm
[20:59] <pvl1> you can yous gnome terminal, lxterminal, what have you on i3
[20:59] <AcidRain2012> i3 looks like its gonna be for a terminal junkie. i enjoy the gui from time to time
[20:59] <pvl1> it just tiles your windows
[20:59] <gordonjcp> pvl1: yes, I have about 12 terminals open right now
[21:00] <michaelrose> so if you are smart and have 2 large monitors you can see between 2 and 6 windows on screen at once
[21:00] <AcidRain2012> ive got 4 terminal myself ;)
[21:00] <gordonjcp> spearhead: on and off, since 6.10
[21:00]  * AcidRain2012 opens 9 more terminals to be +1 on gordonjcp 
[21:00] <gordonjcp> AcidRain2012: rofl
[21:00] <gordonjcp> AcidRain2012: that's like, nine louder innit?
[21:00] <spearhead> gordonjcp: do you like unity or the old gnome better?
[21:00] <gordonjcp> spearhead: much prefer Unity
[21:00] <AcidRain2012> lol
[21:00] <pvl1> gordonjcp: lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <michaelrose> also it lets you bind specific applications to specific desktops and bind specific desktops to specific monitors
[21:00] <gordonjcp> spearhead: it took a bit of getting used to
[21:01] <gordonjcp> pvl1: excellent idea
[21:01] <michaelrose> alright
[21:01] <bbteufel> why not use the tty 1 through 6 ? ctrl+alt+f1/f2/f3/f4/f5/f6 :P
[21:01] <gordonjcp> spearhead: bear in mind I've been using Unix longer than most people in this channel have been breathing
[21:01] <Barrin6> I have ubuntu 12.04 installed right now. It has unity. Do I have to reinstall the whole OS if I want a different desktop environment?
[21:02] <pvl1> !windowmanagers | Barrin6
[21:02] <Barrin6> !GNOME
[21:02] <Barrin6> sweet thanks pvl1
[21:02] <pvl1> Barrin6: you probably want a gnome2 fork btw
[21:03] <needhelpquick> Beldar: It still didnt work :S
[21:03] <Beldar> needhelpquick, So how old is this computer?
[21:03] <eule> всем дорго вечера
[21:04] <Beldar> !ru
[21:04] <jhutchins> Is there a utility that will locate duplicate filenames in a tree?
[21:04] <bekks> jhutchins: fdupes, and various others.
[21:04] <qurks> hey guys
[21:05] <Barrin6> not sure if this is unique only to unity, but I like I can hit the Windows key and type what program I want
[21:06] <rayston> can someone point me at a good guide for how to properly set up a 32bit prefix in Wine? Trying to use dotnet20 so I can play Ultima Online on my ubuntu box
[21:07] <Barrin6> !GNOME
[21:08] <ravigehlot> When trying to install Kubuntu-desktop, I am forced to install LibreOffice. Why is that?
[21:09] <needhelpquick> 2003 custom pc not packaged
[21:10] <cvtsx> 12.04
[21:12] <OerHeks> ravigehlot, it is part of the metapackage, you can install Kubuntu desktop without the extra software with --no-install-recommends option
[21:13] <nfisher> Hi all! ive a little problem on my lucid machine here... when i try to scroll down in my iceweasel-browser per keyboard arrows, it would not scroll down as it used to, but kind of "select" things on the website and jump right to the bottom (or randomly elswhere on the page). Any ideas what might be wrong here?!
[21:13] <OerHeks> but then you would skip a lot
[21:13] <Kajunfiend> i'm having a problem with software updater... for some reason it has a blank window when it opens. anyone know why?
[21:14] <Kajunfiend> !xfce
[21:14] <TheMitten> Quick question, I'm using a run-from-DVD trial of Ubuntu desktop (12.x version) to get files off of a dead hard drive. Is there a quick way to install a jumpdrive driver while running from a DVD?
[21:15] <spearhead> TheMitten: you should't need to install a jumpdrive driver
[21:15] <Kajunfiend> i'm having a problem with software updater... for some reason it has a blank window when it opens. anyone know why?
[21:15] <spearhead> TheMitten: what does it do when you plug in the drive?
[21:16] <TheMitten> spearhead: nothing that I can tell. I have checked to make sure the USB ports are still powered and I didn't bump a cable when I was playing.
[21:16] <ravigehlot> OerHeks: k
[21:17] <ravigehlot> OerHeks: I just don't understand why LibreOffice is included when it is clearly broken.
[21:17] <spearhead> TheMitten: plug in the drive and then run sudo dmesg in terminal to see if it is recognized
[21:17] <us0r> Hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu onto a pc off a flash drive. I just used it to load ubu onto a laptop no problem but when I try it on the pc it doesnt work. set boot order properly and used the same iso but no dice. any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?
[21:18] <OerHeks> ravigehlot, broken? LO works fine here
[21:19] <lokus> anyone know if something like this exists? i'm running a persistent usb-booted linux distro now and i'd like to try and mount some kind of NFS style free cloud storage space (for reliable backup). is this a thing yet?
[21:19] <TheMitten> spearhead: "unable to enumerate USB device on port 1"
[21:20] <TheMitten> amongst many other things.
[21:20] <Barrin6> !desktop manager
[21:20] <Barrin6> !desktopmanager
[21:20] <Barrin6> !desktopsmanager
[21:20] <Beldar> needhelpquick, 2003 that us pretty old are you sure this computer is even up for the job?
[21:20] <Beldar> is*
[21:21] <TheMitten> however my other flash drive works immediately. I think I'll just use it.
[21:21] <Barrin6> !windowsmanager
[21:21] <Beldar> needhelpquick, Be sure to alwyas use nicks if you address another here.
[21:21] <Barrin6> !windowmanager
[21:22] <spearhead> !dm
[21:22] <spearhead> !wm
[21:22] <Barrin6> !windowmanagers
[21:22] <Barrin6> !KDE
[21:22] <spearhead> TheMitten: have you tried a different usb port on the computer
[21:23] <TheMitten> spearhead: I have tried the two in front. My second flash drive works in both, the first works in neither.
[21:24] <spearhead> Barrin6: if you are using the bot for lots of information please use /msg ubottu !windowmanagers to open a private message with the bot
[21:24] <Barrin6> okay sorry
[21:27] <spearhead> TheMitten: try one of the ports in the back, it might not be getting enough power for some reason...
[21:28] <gmachine_24> TheMitten: I'm sure you tried this but did you try a different computer? My usb drives are funny that way. Sometimes. Ha. Ha.
[21:28] <Enekoos> hello, I try config Bluetooth headphones in ubuntu 12.04 lts, system detect it and paring but not sound anything
[21:28] <Enekoos> I search some time for net but not see anything
[21:29] <Gallomimia> where the smeg can i read more about the process on my system known as "zeitgeist"
[21:29] <gmachine_24> german philosophy
[21:30] <gmachine_24> greetings. is there a way to change the time stamp on a file - or many files, actually - because the files are dated last summer even though they were added to my system a few days ago - and my music scanner doesn't list them in the "new" folder... which it normally does
[21:30] <TheMitten> gmachine_24: yeah, it works on other computers.
[21:30] <gmachine_24> TheMitten: I came in late. You tried different usb drives on the computer where you're having problems?
[21:30] <Gallomimia> do you want them to say today's date, right now, or do you want to edit it?
[21:31] <gmachine_24> Gallomimia: Today's date would be great.
[21:31] <TheMitten> spearhead: no dice in the back slots, either.
[21:31] <Gallomimia> run touch on them
[21:31] <gmachine_24> Gallomimia: ..... ok..... that is a program?
[21:31] <TheMitten> no worries though, I'm dropping the files in question to the other drive atm.
[21:31] <Gallomimia> sure is. it's a command line program... acts like you've made changes but without any changes
[21:32] <gmachine_24> swell. thanks.
[21:33] <thirdday> Stops responding when modifying normal style font Stops responding when modifying normal style font
[21:33] <thirdday> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1050718/+attachment/3336114/+files/abiword_format_bug.ogv
[21:33] <spearhead> TheMitten: have you used this drive with ubuntu before?
[21:34] <ClientAlive> Has anyone installed redmine on 13.10 desktop? I attempted it twice from software center recently but ran into error while trying to get through the configuration gui. Anything that can be advised to get a successful install?
[21:34] <TheMitten> spearhead: I have not.
[21:36] <glitsj16> Gallomimia: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/is-zeitgeist-spying-on-you might be of interest
[21:36] <bekks> glitsj16: the answer is "no", even before reading the article :)
[21:37] <spearhead> TheMitten: I'm not sure what the problem is, everything I can find online says that it probably isn't getting enought power... but it might be something completely different.
[21:37] <sv2241> hey there. does anyone have an idea on how to configure ProFTPd for allowing a user to access multiple paths?
[21:37] <glitsj16> bekks: i agree, the link has a confusing title, subtit on the page is "Why Zeitgeist is not evil"
[21:38] <bekks> sv2241: configure the paths to allow access.
[21:40] <TheMitten> spearhead: thanks for trying.
[21:41] <marianne> hi there... anyone out there with synergy exerpience... having trouble with connecting to a new iMac from my ubuntu box
[21:41] <sv2241> bekks: how? I've considered initially a chrooted environment for ftpusers but didn't worked out as that ment to mount bind filesystems in ftpusers home directories. that doesn't work as I don't want to provide access to whole filesystems, just few subdirectories
[21:41] <bekks> sv2241: bind mounting is the solution.
[21:42] <Ignacio`> Hi
[21:42] <Ignacio`> Is there any way for reinstall one package?
[21:42] <Ignacio`> (with apt-get)
[21:43] <sv2241> bekks: I thought so too but it doesn't work for me. need something else. Like in Windows FTP servers, where you can add specific paths for a user to access
[21:43] <AcidRain_> sv2241, what issue are u having?
[21:43] <Myrtti> Ignacio`: install --reinstall
[21:43] <sv2241> bekks: one cannot mount bind a subdirectory under a filesystem but the whole filesystem itself
[21:43] <AcidRain_> sv2241, not true...
[21:44] <bekks> sv2241: Thats not true.
[21:44] <AcidRain_> i currently have like... 7-15 subdirectories mounted in my sftp users folder
[21:44] <sv2241> AcidRain_: ok.. how does it work then?
[21:44] <Ignacio`> Myrtti, thx!
[21:44] <AcidRain_> same as u are bind mounting the whole filesystem. just target a subdirectory....
[21:45] <AcidRain_> sv2241, if u still have the issue of more than just that subdirectory being accessed. then the issue is your permissions
[21:46] <sv2241> AcidRain_, bekks: something like this? mount -t nfs -o hard,retry=100,ro 10.1.120.56:/share/Multimedia/Music2 /home/user/Music
[21:46] <sv2241> AcidRain_, bekks: or mount --bind -t nfs -o hard,retry=100,ro 10.1.120.56:/share/Multimedia/Music2 /home/user/Music ?
[21:47] <AcidRain2012>  /media/Server2/My_Documents/Text_Files     /media/AcidShower/FTP/ftpuser/My_Documents/Text_Files/  bind  _netdev,bind         0  0
[21:47] <AcidRain2012> im not sure what your numbers mean. but this is what i use
[21:48] <sv2241> AcidRain2012: what would be the equivalent in command line? mount -t nfs or mount -t cifs.....
[21:49] <AcidRain_> not sure. u wanna use --bind though. i know this
[21:49] <sv2241> AcidRain_: alright, let me give it a try real quick
[21:49] <AcidRain_> though, i believe that if u do NOT specify a filesystem type, mount will do it for u. or at least try.
[21:50] <XposWinU> how can I read/edit a link in gedit? not the destination of the link.
[21:50] <Beldar> XposWinU, gksduo gedit /path to link
[21:51] <Beldar> gksudo*\
[21:51] <AcidRain_> Beldar, that looks like it will edit the original path
[21:52] <XposWinU> I need to edit the link itself, not the destinaiton*
[21:52] <sv2241> AcidRain_: root@server:/# mount --bind 10.1.120.56:/share/Multimedia/Music2 /home/user/Music
[21:52] <sv2241> mount: special device 10.1.120.56:/share/Multimedia/Music2 does not exist
[21:53] <Beldar> XposWinU, Right, but you need the links file that you want to edit.
[21:53] <AcidRain_> what is this?  10.1.120.56
[21:53] <Beldar> or text whaterver it is
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> XposWinU: what do you mean by edit a link exactly?
[21:53] <AcidRain_> remove that. and it should work
[21:53] <sv2241> AcidRain_: the server (10.1.120.56) I'm mount binding from is a QNAP NAS. client is Ubuntu 12.10
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: you dont use bind with nfs shares. what are you trying to do?
[21:54] <XposWinU> I have a link file pointing to /a/b/c.txt, I want to edit the link file, not c.txt
[21:54] <AcidRain_> sv2241, ah. thats beyond me. i havent dealt with that.
[21:54] <AcidRain_> Beldar, i think hes trying to edit the link location on the link file
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> XposWinU: what about it do you want to edit? you use ln to change the link
[21:55] <Gallomimia> rhythmbox requires to install plugins of the following types. where do i get the plugins?
[21:55] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, what plugins?
[21:56] <Gallomimia> a big long list
[21:56] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, does it list off the mp3 codex?
[21:56] <AcidRain_> give me some examples
[21:56] <Beldar> Gallomimia, can you pastebin them so we get some context with a little more details
[21:57] <Gallomimia> a whole ton of codec's yeah
[21:57] <Kajunfiend> i'm having a problem with software updater... for some reason it has a blank window when it opens. anyone know why?
[21:57] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, should have done that on format ;)
[21:57] <Beldar> Gallomimia, Do you have the restricted-extras installed?
[21:57] <Gallomimia> no
[21:57] <AcidRain_> ya. install that. it shoudl cover all of it
[21:58] <Gallomimia> how?
[21:58] <Beldar> Gallomimia, Start there, sudo apt-get install "your de"-restricted-extras
[21:58] <marcofardin> irc.openjoke.org
[21:59] <Beldar> IE sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras if unity
[21:59] <AcidRain_> or: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/ubuntu-restricted-extras/
[21:59] <AcidRain_> but i would always suggest terminal over gui :)
[21:59] <jacob_> Hi, I get a SIGSEGV error when I try to open lugaru, is there any why to fix this?
[21:59] <axisys_> ri File gives Nothing known about File. running ubuntu 13.10.. missing any doc package?
[21:59] <androidfr33k> I have a question about the terminal emulator used in Xubuntu versus the one in Ubuntu.  I like the one in Xubuntu because it keeps an entire history of a Build or compilation of a kernel for example.  The one in Ubuntu only keeps so many pages then its gone.  Is this some setting or the terminal being used?
[22:00] <Barrin6> so I installed a bunch of desktop environments, now I see duplicate icons for applications. I am removing them using synaptic package manager. Is there anything that can go wrong here?
[22:00] <Beldar> Barrin6, synaptic remove apps
[22:00] <Beldar> removes*
[22:01] <androidfr33k> scroll back setting in preferences maybe?  its set to 1000 in Xubutu
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> androidfr33k: in the setting you can change that to infinite if you wish
[22:01] <Barrin6> so that's good right
[22:01] <AcidRain_> Barrin6, what DE are you currently using?
[22:01] <Barrin6> unity
[22:01] <AcidRain_> oh. cant help u
[22:01] <Beldar> Barrin6, Not if you want them.
[22:01] <Barrin6> i did sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop but it doesn't seem to remove everything
[22:01] <AcidRain_> but no. synaptic will not remove an icon.
[22:01] <Beldar> Barrin6, Many have dependencies so look at what is being removed closely
[22:01] <androidfr33k> in terminal setting?  Scrollback?
[22:01] <AcidRain_> Barrin6, u will have to logout, and log back in
[22:02] <Barrin6> okay
[22:02] <Barrin6> hopefully I don't brick my computer
[22:02] <AcidRain_> unheard of
[22:02] <sv2241> hitsujiTMO: I have an NFS export mounted from a QNAP NAS (10.1.120.56:/share/Multimedia) locally to a Ubuntu 12.10 host in /mnt/Multimedia. Additionally, I want to provide access to several ftpusers to couple subdirectories from that mount. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to do that. Considered that one possible way to do that is within a chrooted ftpuser environment, I mount bind these subdirectories but it does not work. In Windows, FTP servers 
[22:03] <Areu> hello
[22:03] <jacob_> Does anyone know anything about SIGSEGV errors?
[22:03] <triven> I am new to linux . I want to get latest kernel and kernel headers from synapic and rebuilt the Guest addition as mentioned in the solution of this topic http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3492466/how-to-mount-virtualbox-shared-folder-on-ubuntu-server-10-04-gui-sbin-mount-vb  .
[22:03] <Beldar> Barrin6, when you add desktops you get many if the other desktops apps with the new one still available.
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: where is you ftp root?
[22:03] <sv2241> ~
[22:03] <Barrin6> yea Beldar , that's why I am trying to remove them now. Since I will only be using Unity
[22:04] <Beldar> triven, Kernels outside of a release are technically not supported here unless that is the only option.
[22:04] <Areu> I have a 12.1 and xrdp installed, but the menu bar is missing. how can I fix it?
[22:04] <AcidRain_> why keep unity. seems u are already having problems with it.
[22:04] <AcidRain_> ;p
[22:04] <Gallomimia> E: Unable to locate package saucy-restricted-extras || is my spelling that bad??
[22:04] <Beldar> Barrin6, There is a website with lists to remove whole meta desktops.
[22:04] <pvl1> jacob_: what about them
[22:04] <Hydr0p0nX> trying to compile a module for my cable card/tuning adapter, it worked find in ubuntu 12.04, but it in 13.10, I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6699657/ , can anyone point me to a work around/solution ?
[22:04] <jzk1> What's the best way to move the gnome3-shell panel from the top to the bottom?
[22:04] <Barrin6> hah AcidRain_ , I actually like it.
[22:04] <Beldar> Gallomimia, What desktop do you use?
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: sudo mount --bind /mnt/Multimedia/path/to/sub/dir ~/mountpoint
[22:05] <sv2241> hitsujiTMO: DefaultRoot                     ~
[22:05] <Gallomimia> beldar: i'm not even sure. i presume gnome? the default in plain ubuntu
[22:05] <Barrin6> I tried XFCE and it was pretty damn fast. But I don't feel ready to switch desktops at this time
[22:05] <jacob_> I'm trying to run the game Lugaru but it closes after I click it giving me a SIGSEG error
[22:05] <AcidRain_> the default is unity
[22:05] <Beldar> Gallomimia, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:05] <Gallomimia> right. that then
[22:05] <jacob_> BinIOConvert4() it says
[22:05] <spearhead> Anyone know how to burn an iso to a dvd-r in ubuntu server 13.10?
[22:06] <Gallomimia> ah this works
[22:06] <Beldar> Barrin6, What release are you running?
[22:06] <Gallomimia> now i remember why i denied permission to install this package. can i avoid installing flash with all this?
[22:06] <Barrin6> I'm using ubuntu 12.04
[22:06] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, just intall, then remove flash
[22:06] <jzk1> Is there really no way to move a panel in gnome3? This is a departure from like 15 years of gnome philosophy
[22:06] <Beldar> Gallomimia, I don't know the command to do so.
[22:07] <androidfr33k> its laterally infinite setting in ubuntu but the one is Xubuntu  does not have infinite
[22:07] <androidfr33k> thanks
[22:07] <AcidRain_> jzk1, the unity prison im not sure of. in KDE, u just pull it to where u want it
[22:08] <Beldar> Barrin6, look at the playing around section left column for removing whole desktops for 12.04. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[22:08] <Beldar> Gallomimia, Can I ask why no flash?
[22:08] <jzk1> Unity so far is absolutely disgusting
[22:08] <Synx|hm> Anyone know if the default ubuntu server kernel (im on 3.2.0-57-generic) has IP Policy Filter enabled? At some point either during a software upgrade or a kernel upgrade my very non standard routing policy from iproute2 broke
[22:09]  * AcidRain_ jzk1 *cough* use KDE/cinnamon *cough*
[22:09] <Beldar> jzk1, That is a personal subjective opinion this is support
[22:09] <Gallomimia> beldar: i thought the point of using a linux distro was to prevent crappy software from poisoning your system?
[22:09] <Gallomimia> the operating system i choose is "not-windows-or-apple"
[22:09] <Gallomimia> flash is even worse than both of those put together :(
[22:09] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, its different in linux
[22:09] <Gallomimia> yes. in a big big way
[22:09] <AcidRain_> flash is ran as the user flash, it cant escape that user
[22:10] <pvl1> if i have an ssh server that is password protected, can i bypass password with private key file
[22:10] <Beldar> Gallomimia, That is a personal subjective choice, what you consider "crappy software from poisoning your system" is not necessarily everyones opinion.
[22:10] <Barrin6> thanks Beldar
[22:10] <jzk1> AcidRain_: Well, it wouldn't be a problem but this upgrade to 13.10 broke literally everything- lost all my settings, gnome panels, compiz... everything
[22:10] <AcidRain_> jzk1, hmmmm... dont try to fix what isnt broken next time? ;)
[22:10] <axisys_> pvl1: if public key is allowed, yes
[22:10] <Gallomimia> i remember when flash was version 1. it was exciting. the next chance i got to look at the version number it was like 11 or something. bloat.... delete.
[22:10] <pvl1> axisys_: and thats in the config yes
[22:10] <axisys_> pvl1: sshd_config, yes
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: you can install the individual dependencies if you wish. apt-cache show ubuntu-restricted-extras | grep Depends
[22:10] <gordonjcp> pvl1: you mean logging in without a password?
[22:11] <pvl1> gordonjcp: yeah just making sure itll work as expected
[22:11] <gordonjcp> pvl1: it should do
[22:11] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, im just saying. if u enjoy watching youtube videos. u will need flash. if u are worried about the hacks that are going around to escape the flash sandbox, its not an issue in linux
[22:11] <Gallomimia> thanks hitsujiTMO: that's stuff i need to learn with time. i did a purge on flash
[22:11] <gordonjcp> pvl1: you can either create an SSH key without a passphrase, or use ssh-agent and friends
[22:11] <Gallomimia> i don't enjoy watching youtube videos thanks
[22:11] <pvl1> gordonjcp: may i pm you
[22:11] <Gallomimia> flash player is the worst idea in the history of computing :(
[22:12] <spearhead> pvl1: once you have the private key setup you can actually turn off password authentication... although then you wouldn't be able to login from a computer that doesn't have a key registered with the server... but it does make it more secure.
[22:12] <gordonjcp> pvl1: go on then
[22:12] <Gallomimia> besides, youtube works with html5, and i prefer to download my youtube videos to disk and watch them with a native program
[22:12] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, im pretty sure flash is ran on our cd players though :)
[22:12] <pvl1> spearhead: thats what i want to avoid. but i guess the solution would be to just keep a copy of said file somewhere
[22:12] <Gallomimia> cd players?
[22:12] <AcidRain_> in your car...
[22:12] <Gallomimia> cd players were obsolete before flash came out
[22:13] <spearhead> pvl1: you want to avoid being able to log in from other machines?
[22:13] <AcidRain_> lol
[22:13] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, im talking about the display. handling of mp3s.
[22:13] <AcidRain_> sstuff like that
[22:13] <pvl1> spearhead: id like to be able to still log in with password
[22:13] <Gallomimia> yeah. i don't have such a cd player. it's got aux in and that's all
[22:13] <NcA^> hey all, need some help with recovering a partition table. Wiped out my partitions accidentally using gparted. Still have the machine running and haven't rebooted yet.
[22:14] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, lol
[22:14] <Gallomimia> thanks for the tip tho. i'll avoid decks that have flash in them too ><
[22:14] <AcidRain_> haha
[22:14] <AcidRain_> no usb in?
[22:14] <Gallomimia> ummmm it might. but it doesn't work with my phone
[22:14] <AcidRain_> ah. got an iphone i see
[22:14] <Gallomimia> so, i might try a flashdrive.
[22:14] <AcidRain_> :P
[22:15] <Gallomimia> HAD* an iphone.
[22:15] <spearhead> pvl1: ok, yes you can have it setup for both, I currently have a key setup from my laptop to my server without a password on the key so all I have to do from my laptop is type ssh ip-of-server and it connects to my user on the server without any more prompts...
[22:15] <Gallomimia> ditched apple...
[22:15] <AcidRain_> the usb in works with android...
[22:15] <Gallomimia> well, not my laptop yet. i'll get ubuntu running on that soon
[22:15] <spearhead> pvl1: but to login from any other computer I have to use a password.
[22:15] <Beldar> NcA^, Anything still there on the HD and is it backed up?
[22:16] <spearhead> pvl1: if you haven't already I would suggest turning off ssh login for root.
[22:16] <NcA^> Well, I've got a NAS, so there's no data that I particularly care about... Just "." files in my home directory
[22:16] <pvl1> spearhead: of course thats disabled
[22:16] <pvl1> but thank you
[22:16] <spearhead> just making sure... a lot of people don't disable it..
[22:16] <NcA^> Beldar: Running gpart for a second time, it returned 4 partitions (incorrect), all blank last time I ran it
[22:16]  * AcidRain_ disables root login
[22:17] <AcidRain_> ya man. thats been disabled for yrs
[22:17] <triven> Beldar, I am new to linux. If think you figure out what I am trying to do . Please let me know any alternate way to do so.
[22:17] <Beldar> NcA^, I'm not familiar with what NAS is.
[22:17] <NcA^> Network Attached Storage.
[22:17] <NcA^> A Synology DS213
[22:18] <spearhead> Beldar: it is basically a tiny computer that all it does is share a hdd with the network...
[22:18] <Gallomimia> NAS = barebones computer on a single board without a display.
[22:18] <AcidRain_> hmmm... whats the point of this NAS thing
[22:18] <NcA^> Anyways... That's secondary to my issue
[22:18] <AcidRain_> sounds like its a shared hdd
[22:18] <Gallomimia> you can flash them and run alternate operating systems on them
[22:18] <Beldar> NcA^, People use testdisk at times it has photorec in its menu, continueing to run it and or messing with overwrites makes it less likely yo0u will get recovery.
[22:19] <spearhead> AcidRain_: cheep network shared storage with no configuration necessary, or at least very little...
[22:19] <NcA^> Beldar: I gave that a try too, I've written about 4 incorrect partition tables since they got deleted
[22:19] <AcidRain_> spearhead, how much are they?
[22:19] <NcA^> Beldar: Wasn't sure if testdisk/gpart scan the full disk, or just the mbr
[22:19] <Beldar> NcA^, Your using the term partition tables and partitions together they are not the same.
[22:20] <AcidRain_> spearhead, if they are more than 100$ ill just stick with the 2TB shared hdd's i got :)
[22:20] <Gallomimia> AcidRain_: anywhere from 80-400 dollars. without disks
[22:20] <spearhead> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=207&srkey=nas
[22:20] <NcA^> Beldar: I'm attempting to recover my partition table...
[22:20] <spearhead> there are lots of options...
[22:20] <AcidRain_> spearhead, ya that is too much for something that can be recreated for a 6th the price
[22:21] <Gallomimia> the point usually is that they're independent of your desktop systems. so they can usually have better uptime, no reboots. and so on
[22:21] <Beldar> NcA^, I would start a backup system after this had you had one, you would not be here.
[22:21] <NcA^> I've written new ones, after running testdisk, they were incorrect after I inspected in parted, so I deleted the "partition", and wrote to the partition table, thus, no data is lost, just the partition table was modified
[22:21] <spearhead> AcidRain_: my thoughts exactly but they are good for people with little to no computer knowledge...
[22:22] <AcidRain_> guess knowledge does pay off. that linux SuSe terminal was right about 10yrs ago. lol
[22:22] <Gallomimia> spearhead: they're good for prying into the private files of people with little to know computer knowledge too.
[22:22] <AcidRain_> ya i was about to say. looks like a good way for your neighbor to delete your computer life
[22:23] <Gallomimia> haha yeah that too
[22:23] <spearhead> Gallonimia: yeah my church had one and i could basically get into any of their files from any wifi device because everything was on one network and everyone stored everything on it...
[22:23] <Gallomimia> they're coming with "cloud" software and wifi adapters too
[22:24] <spearhead> including the membership database...
[22:24] <sv2241> hitsujiTMO: your solution worked. I was able to mount bind the paths I wanted but cannot figure out how to make them read only. the command I've used: sudo mount --bind /mnt/Multimedia/Music2 /home/user/Music -o ro. that should do it but it doesn't. I can delete, add, append files without any issues
[22:24] <AcidRain_> spearhead, lmao. so-and-so baptized: yes() no(x) lol
[22:24] <Gallomimia> i personally own 2: one is a 1TB drive that i can flash without hardware modifications, that i paid 99 dollars for when 1TB drives with no NAS were 110$
[22:25] <spearhead> pretty much...
[22:25] <Gallomimia> spearhead, AcidRain_ with names and addresses? that's a violation of most privacy laws right there.
[22:25] <AcidRain_> spearhead, your sick. thats just twisted
[22:25] <NcA^> I should rephrase my question really.... Is it possible, from a running 13.10 install, to show the currently mounted partition table (need to see cylinders/start-end points), to recreate a deleted partition table
[22:25] <spearhead> i showed them how easy it was to get into and how to change it... now it is a little harder...
[22:25] <AcidRain_> we have privacy laws? learn something new everyday. lol
[22:25] <bekks> NcA^: No.
[22:26] <Gallomimia> hah
[22:26] <NcA^> lol bekks
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: bind will keep the same options as the primary mounts unfortunately
[22:26] <bekks> NcA^: That was no joke.
[22:26] <NcA^> I'm aware
[22:26] <NcA^> none of the tools for the job are returning the right info: parted/gpart/testdisk
[22:27] <Gallomimia> i should pay attention to what NcA^ is doing... i have a volume whose pmap went tits up and i need to recover the data
[22:27] <sv2241> hitsujiTMO: damn, i was afraid you were going to say that. what can I do then?
[22:27] <AcidRain_> sv2241, you have to change the permissions on the files. i think they have to be owned by root. and only root should be able to modify them.
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: afaik you can remont it as ro tho. sudo mount -o remount,ro /home/user/Music
[22:27] <Gallomimia> actually the volume is populated with  encrypted disk images.... recovering those with a file recovery program is..... tough. impossible :(
[22:28] <NcA^> bekks: It's not the end of the world, everything is properly backed up, just trying to avoid the inevitable reinstall
[22:28] <sv2241> AcidRain_: im afraid i cannot do that as other services write there and need rw access
[22:28] <Gallomimia> i figure it should be easy with the right tools and piping, since i know the passwords
[22:28] <AcidRain_> sv2241, what services?
[22:28] <Beldar> NcA^, You might get acquainted with the boot script it gives you that exact info.
[22:28] <andyfied> Gallomimia: it should be possible once decrypted
[22:28] <AcidRain_> sv2241, im not sure about ftp. but im pretty sure that sftp has to be owned by root to be publicly accessible
[22:29] <sv2241> AcidRain_: well, the mount points are Music, Movies, TVSeries.. I'll let you figure out what those services might be :-)
[22:29] <AcidRain_> lol
[22:29] <AcidRain_> sv2241, i see no need for any program to write to those files. but to read, those programs wont need root to read them
[22:30] <AcidRain_> sv2241, i have my stuff setup the same way. Music. Videos, Text_Files. all these programs like rythmbox, totem, gedit can read. but never write unless i run them as root
[22:30] <AcidRain_> which i wont ever have to do
[22:30] <Gallomimia> andyfied: can't decrypt until the volume full of files is "recovered"
[22:30] <andyfied> mm
[22:30] <andyfied> then need to try to make a nice image
[22:31] <andyfied> to a good drive then try to rebuild the pmap, that ;ast bit is beyond me though
[22:31] <Gallomimia> what's more, there's about 5 such encrypted images, with the same password
[22:31] <Gallomimia> so... sort them out? without a pmap :/ sounds rough
[22:31] <Gallomimia> so far all i've done is image the volume to a good drive
[22:32] <andyfied> have you tried testdisk?
[22:32] <andyfied> i wouldn't expect it to do much
[22:32] <andyfied> but you might be lucky
[22:32] <Gallomimia> haven't tried anything since i had it on my mac years ago, other than dd > imagefile
[22:33] <Gallomimia> alas, i must step away. good day to you all
[22:33] <AcidRain_> Gallomimia, i would img the files u need. install ubuntu on a throw-away laptop, recover the files with backup tool. this may damage your ubuntu os. backup your unencrypted files. and reformat again
[22:33] <AcidRain_> id only do that in my spare time though.
[22:33] <andyfied> Gallomimia: testdisk might be able to get it back together
[22:37] <Amphibulus> Hello
[22:42] <Bashing-om> Amphibulus: Hi ! back at you, What's your situation ?
[22:43] <Barrin6> so I'm trying to revert back to the ubuntu splash screen. Current this is showing. I selected 2 but it still shows lubuntu? http://picpaste.com/thumbs/Screenshot_from_2014-01-05_14_41_39-3ngvJeW1.1388961745.png
[22:43] <Barrin6> what does the priority mean?
[22:44] <Amphibulus> Bashing-om, I have a problem with the right click of my mouse. When you click you see the menu, but if you drag a little bit your cursor to the down right, you end up selecting the first item in the menu when you release your button
[22:44] <Amphibulus> I found an open bug about it here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575071
[22:45] <bonsu> hey ppl can't get my webcam to work
[22:45] <raj7749> test
[22:45] <Amphibulus> ubottu, exactly, but one suggest to move the menu by few pixel in gtk_menu_position but I,m unsure how to edit that
[22:48] <Beldar> bonsu, Have you tried to see if it works in the cheese app?
[22:48] <bonsu> it work up till few days ago
[22:49] <bonsu> then after that
[22:49] <bonsu> blank black
[22:49] <Beldar> bonsu, Ah, anything in between that might have changed this, drivers, updates, apps.....etc
[22:49] <bonsu> just did some updates yesterday
[22:50] <Beldar> bonsu, some is a plural, do you mean an update?
[22:50] <bonsu> yes and update
[22:51] <Beldar> bonsu, Any additional drivers....ect needed originally to get it working?
[22:51] <Beldar> etc*
[22:51] <bonsu> no
[22:52] <Beldar> bonsu, Have you had a chance to see if the camera if a plugin works on another computer?
[22:52] <bonsu> laptop integrated
[22:53] <Beldar> bonsu, Hmm, not really sure beyond this, maybe others will have ideas, sorry.
[22:53] <bonsu> ty anyway
[22:54] <Beldar> Barrin6, Did you use the meta list to remove lubuntu on psychocats, it should revert your spalsh back.
[22:54] <Beldar> splash
[22:54] <sv2241> hitsujiTMO: you're a godsent. remounting the binded filesystem did the trick. how can I make that permanent, so it'll recreate the same mount points and have ro permissions after server reboot? an event-based init script maybe?
[22:56] <Mike63UK> hello all
[22:56] <raj7749> hello
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: you could create an upstart script that mounts it after the networking interface comes up
[22:57] <Mike63UK> anyone know if there is a room for pure data?
[22:57] <Barrin6> beldar I did but it didn't work.
[22:57] <spearhead> Mike63UK: what do you mean by pure data?
[22:57] <Beldar> Mike63UK, "room for pure data" could you define that and a context
[22:57] <Bashing-om> Amphibulus: I looekd at the link, modify-ing the .c code is also a bit over my head.
[22:58] <Mike63UK> pd puredata the music program
[22:58] <Barrin6> Beldar, it said I had some unmet dependencies
[22:58] <sv2241> hitsujiTMO: that's a great ideea but might not be enough as right after the network ifaces come up, nfs shares are not mounted yet and thismain mount is on a different server, so it'll take some time to come up. I think it should happen after all the shares are mounted. what do you think?
[22:58] <Amphibulus> Bashing-om, thanks anyway, I'm not sure why there not more people complaining about this
[22:58] <Barrin6> Beldar,  it's not a big deal
[22:59] <spearhead> Mike63UK: i just did a channel search for puredata and found #dataflow
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: you're right.
[22:59] <Mike63UK> nope, puredata is sort of a music design system
[22:59] <anton02> i removed python2.7 and it uninstalled half my ubuntu along with it. how do i get it back?
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: unless you mount the nfs shares in the same script
[23:00] <Beldar> Barrin6, Cool, problem here though is when you pick at a desktop to remove it and or modify one so you get unmet dependencies, the clean can be disjunct is all.
[23:00] <Mike63UK> ive got it ported now onto a beaglebone and looking for a few tips
[23:01] <pvl1> if i rm a symlink, do i rm symlink or the actual file it links to
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: the symlink
[23:01] <spearhead> Mike63UK: is this what you are wanting? http://puredata.info/
[23:02] <anton02> i removed python2.7 and it uninstalled half my ubuntu along with it. how do i get it back?
[23:02] <spearhead> Mike63UK: because that is what the #dataflow channel is for based on the description
[23:02] <Mike63UK> you were right the dataflow one is the one I was looking for
[23:02] <Bashing-om> Amphibulus: Have not seen any others with this "problem", what results with right click, release and then select the desired item ?
[23:02] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: thank you
[23:02] <Beldar> Mike63UK, I see install for linix of puredata on the web.
[23:03] <raj7749> j
[23:03] <Amphibulus> Bashing-om, yes, right click, then select with a left click, but if you move you mouse a bit down when you release your right click, it select the first item in the menu
[23:03] <sv2241> hitsujiTMO: I think I may have found the right event - start on stopped mountall -
[23:03] <Mike63UK> Ive used it on pcs but when I got the bbb i ported it to there thinking i can get multiple bbb talking to one another vis pd
[23:03] <Amphibulus> Bashing-om, you can try it in a terminal, it will open a new one
[23:04] <Amphibulus> Bashing-om, I mean over a terminal windows
[23:04] <sv2241> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/x0dsxpMb - created a quick Upstart script. do you think this might work?
[23:04] <vanea> Hello guys. Need your help. I have to recursively create folders... smth like this mkdir -p G{1..6} but the last numbers, in our case "6"  should be introduced be the user. I tried mkdir -p G{1..$i}; but it's not working. here is the whole code http://pastebin.com/NKvCwBEc  it' short
[23:05] <sv2241> vanea: tii cursuri de Linux or something? :)
[23:06] <Bashing-om> Amphibulus: Nope, unable to comply, I run xfce for my DE, and can not duplicate your issue.
[23:07] <Amphibulus> Bashing-om, if you hold on the right click, can you select something in the menu by release the button?
[23:07] <Amphibulus> *releasing
[23:07] <vanea> sv2241: nu. sunt fotograf. îmi automatizez post-processingul
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> sv2241: or use the remote-filesystems event
[23:08] <tuxiano> Hello, is there a event system for xinput devices, to recognize movements? I wrote a script which reads with xinput --query-state the current position of the device, but this leads to a relative high load of the xorg process.
[23:08] <tuxiano> link to my skript: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141992&p=12892039#post12892039
[23:08] <crundar_> I've got an old laptop on which I've just loaded 13.<latest>
[23:09] <crundar_> I'm trying to get output to an HDTV via VGA
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Amphibulus: Depending on the context of the menu I can select with right click, many times I can not.
[23:09] <tuxiano> so I want to replace the infinit loop with an event
[23:09] <crundar_> I have a VGA->component cable
[23:10] <anton02> i stuffed up my sources file in /etc/apt/. Where can i wget a new one?
[23:10] <crundar_> it seems to be recognizing the cable and the tv (ubuntu recognizes when I plug in the cable, and that there *is* another monitor)
[23:10] <crundar_> but I dont get any video out
[23:10] <Amphibulus> Bashing-om, on unity you can right click (hold your click) and move your mouse the select the menu item, then you release the button to select it, that's what cause this issue
[23:10] <crundar_> how can I diagnose the source of the error
[23:11] <Guest82306> hello, I use ubuntu 13.10 which has qemu 1.5 installed , I need qemu 1.7 which seems to exist in ubuntu 14.4; how can I add 14.4 repository to synaptic so it install the new release of qemu?
[23:12] <crundar_> I have the option to use component instead of composite; but I'd like to knowif I seem to have to
[23:12] <OerHeks> Guest82306, not possible to mix repo versions.
[23:12] <crundar_> I dont have the option to use HDMI
[23:13] <Mike63UK> do you another pc as well crundar?
[23:13] <Mike63UK> you could try using ssh -X user@ip
[23:13] <crundar_> Mike63UK: yes, but this other one doesnt have VGA out
[23:14] <crundar_> its HDMI only (windows only)
[23:14] <Mike63UK> just to confirm the windows are being created
[23:14] <p3rsist> With upstart, how can I make a job B restart when job A is restarted?
[23:14] <Mike63UK> mmm no X
[23:14] <crundar_> but I have gotten HDMI-HDMI video to display
[23:14] <Guest85789> testing
[23:15] <Guest82306> OerHeks: is there any tool that can do that? I can download the deb files but there are many dependencies which make the process confusing and error prone and that is why I search for an automated tool
[23:15] <crundar_> I'm far from expert in messing with xrandr or xorg.conf
[23:16] <Mike63UK> me neither
[23:16] <crundar_> when I have it plugged in, can I get a read of what's being broadcast
[23:16] <OerHeks> Guest82306, not that i know
[23:16] <NothingMuchHereT> I'm having problems resetting my launchpad email \
[23:17]  * FireEater64 test
[23:17] <NothingMuchHereT> I can't change my login email address
[23:17] <Mike63UK> you could try tightvnc
[23:17] <Bashing-om> anton02: Here: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ to regenerate your source.list file.
[23:18] <OerHeks> NothingMuchHereT, join #launchpad or better mail them
[23:18] <NothingMuchHereT> Ugh
[23:18] <Mike63UK> if you tried remote login then you could see if it worked
[23:21] <Guest82306> OerHeks: ok, thanks anyways
[23:23] <smaudet> just wondering, would anyone know where I would go to find out who blacklisted my wifi driver?
[23:24] <Blackshear> im having a difficult time installing from usb
[23:24] <Blackshear> can someone help me troubleshoot?
[23:24] <smaudet> I've had to manually load it every time for about a month or so, its in modprobe's blacklist, says it was generated by bcmwl, but I don't have that installed in any package anywhere AFAIK, dpkg -S turns up nothing
[23:24] <Mike63UK> did the write to the usb stick work correctly?
[23:24] <Beldar> Blackshear, tell the channel the problems.
[23:25] <Blackshear> in the bios setup, in the boot menu, i have USB boot enabled
[23:25] <Blackshear> but it doesnt boot from the usb
[23:25] <smaudet> If I knew who/what blacklisted the driver, I could maybe get better help as to why it was blacklisted in the first place (no, my card doesn't have a better driver for it)
[23:26] <Blackshear> it just loads windows everytime
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: toggle the legacy usb support option in the bios
[23:26] <Beldar> Blackshear, What windows release?
[23:26] <Blackshear> windows 7
[23:26] <Beldar> Blackshear, This a oem, no uefi?
[23:27] <smaudet> Brb checking to see that de-listing the driver fixes my problem.
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: how are you telling it to boot the usb? bios boot menu? or have you changed the boot order?
[23:27] <Blackshear> i changed the boot order
[23:28] <Blackshear> ok now something happened, i see a stick person with a cirle in it next to a rectangle
[23:29] <Blackshear> is that normal?
[23:29] <Blackshear> on a dark red back ground
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: yes thats normal.
[23:30] <Scroll_Tro0L> I mistakenly installed some stuff as root. Now I've made a proper new user for the application (Vbox). How do I migrate all the Vbox files over to the new user folder? Do I just move it myself or should I be doing more?
[23:30] <Blackshear> how long is it supposed to stay like that/
[23:31] <Beldar> Scroll_Tro0L, Have you installed anything in vbox yet, the only thing really imperative there is the OS image.
[23:32] <Beldar> unless you have saved any states
[23:32] <Scroll_Tro0L> Beldar, Unfortunately yes, So I need to move the .vd file and everything.
[23:32] <Scroll_Tro0L> I didn't get too far, so I don't mind reinstalling it all.
[23:32] <anton02> how do i install the unity WM?
[23:33] <Bashing-om> Blackshear: Several minutes perhaps, depending on how fast your system is and how much ram is installed. The image has to be copied into ram, and decompreseed then the OS is running in ram.
[23:33] <Scroll_Tro0L> I ran into an issue where the partition got full. Someone from vbox channel told i needed to do it all as a user, so I need to put it all in the /home/vbox folder now
[23:33] <Beldar> Scroll_Tro0L, I use vbox on numerous OS's I just load the vdi and run it, I wonder if you just need to install vbox correctly and add the image.
[23:34] <Scroll_Tro0L> Right now the vbox stuff is in /root/
[23:34] <anton02> apt-get install unity doesnt work
[23:34] <Beldar> Scroll_Tro0L, Hmm, not sure myself, never done this myself, and not sure of permissions here.
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> Scroll_Tro0L: i presume you just need to copy over the dirs + chown it
[23:35] <Beldar> anton02, unity is the ubuntu-desktop
[23:35] <quem> anton02: you ran it as root or with the sudo command prefixed?
[23:36] <Scroll_Tro0L> hitsujiTMO, That's where I get lost, which dirs.
[23:36] <Scroll_Tro0L> Obviously, Ill move over the .vdi file
[23:36] <Scroll_Tro0L> but I have two more folders
[23:36] <Scroll_Tro0L> .VirtualBox and VirtualBox VMs
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> Scroll_Tro0L: contents of VirtualBox vms should be enough
[23:37] <Scroll_Tro0L> Alrighty, I'll try this now. Thanks!
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> .VirtualBox should be the user prefs global to a vm
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> so not so important
[23:37] <Scroll_Tro0L> K
[23:37] <Scroll_Tro0L> And then I'll have to change the paths in the vm's config
[23:38] <Scroll_Tro0L> Then, hopefully, should be golden
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> if they're not already relative
[23:38] <Scroll_Tro0L> They're not
[23:38] <Scroll_Tro0L> Not that advanced, yet :P
[23:38]  * hitsujiTMO hates apps with absolute paths
[23:38] <Scroll_Tro0L> Litterally my first time with unix
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> what unix?
[23:39] <Scroll_Tro0L> ubuntu?
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu is linux not unix:P
[23:39] <Scroll_Tro0L> oh
[23:39] <Scroll_Tro0L> See
[23:39] <XQt-rookie> Im using my tv as monitor but I want to fix my resolution, right now my resolution is 1024x483 4:3 but my card support 16:3 and I didn't that option on my display option. How can I increase my resolution? "by the way I'm using a toshiba satellite M305-S4907"
[23:39] <Scroll_Tro0L> Evidence that I'm new around here
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> linux is unix like, but doesn't follow the exact standard and therefore is not allowed to be reffered to as unix
[23:40] <olf-folks> "i waned unix at home so i made it" - Linus
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> Linus waned unix? :P
[23:42] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO: at home
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> XQt-rookie: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:43] <XQt-rookie> Im using 13.04
[23:43] <Nuthatch> hi
[23:43] <Scroll_Tro0L> Super-noob question, how do I emulate a user?
[23:44] <Scroll_Tro0L> oh nvm
[23:44] <Scroll_Tro0L> i got it
[23:44] <raj7749> emulate?
[23:44] <Nuthatch> is it okay to seek help with ubuntu studio here?
[23:44] <raj7749> for what
[23:44] <Nuthatch> Some things are crashing and I can't get my headphones to work.
[23:44] <Pici> Nuthatch: sure, but there is also #ubuntustudio
[23:45] <olf-folks> "ubottu> I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[23:45] <Beldar> olf-folks, I see no linus quote on the web like that but others saying it
[23:45] <Nuthatch> Thanks Pici I went there too, just no one appears to even be alive there.
[23:45] <raj7749> resizing boot partition.. possible?
[23:45] <smaudet> That is a no, no that did not fix the issue, not even temporarily
[23:46] <smaudet> Soz I still would appreciate a pointer about my blacklisted driver
[23:46] <Beldar> raj7749, You might clean out some kernels
[23:47] <raj7749> Beldar Thanx for the reply.. i did clean some kernels.. but the thing is that my boot partition is 200mb sized..
[23:47] <raj7749> My custom kernels are requiring more spaces
[23:47] <Beldar> raj7749, Pretty standard size, not really needed.
[23:48] <Beldar> raj7749, resize it like you would any partition.
[23:48] <Scroll_Tro0L> When I do su for a user I just made (as root), it still asks me for a password
[23:48] <smaudet> A pointer or a pointer to a pointer.
[23:48] <Scroll_Tro0L> Any way around this? When I made the user I didn't give it any password
[23:48] <smaudet> Either one.
[23:48] <raj7749> Beldar, i m just worried i might loose grub..
[23:49] <raj7749> Beldar or bootrecord
[23:49] <frib> what can I do if fdisk can't read a partition table?
[23:49] <hayao> exit
[23:49] <p0wder> hey guys I have micro sd card that I can't format.  I tried gparted, it says all space is unallocated, so I tried to partition that space and it says no partition table found... I try to make a partition table and it says Error while creating partition table...  Any thoughts on how to get my sd card formatted to FAT32??   If this isn't a good place for this question please point me to
[23:50] <Beldar> raj7749, reinstalling grub if you get a grub> is no big deal, If you resize it there must be another partition up against it right needing resizing?
[23:51] <p0wder> frib: have you used testdisk before?
[23:51] <Blackshear> the installation just froze
[23:51] <raj7749> Beldar, well thank you.. actually my boot partition is the 1st partition.. can i create another boot partion at end of the free spacess and delete the existing boot partion after coping to new..
[23:51] <Blackshear> on keyboard layout
[23:52] <raj7749> Beldar, it will mess with the partition numbers
[23:52] <Beldar> raj7749, Not sure on that, I never use a boot partition.
[23:52] <nikin> hi. I have an ubuntu 12.04 VM which i didnt update for a couple of months now.. i tried today, and apt-get update fails...  not finding servers, and apt-get upgrade fails on sonething about something about a section header
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> frib: what output do you get from: sudo fdisk -l
[23:53] <raj7749> Beldar, .. i guess i will have to try n see.. thanx :)
[23:53] <frib> hitsujiTMO, it said couldn't read the partition table.  but it's ok i fixed it with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[23:53] <nikin> download speed is showed at couple of PetaBytes at some times.
[23:53] <Beldar> raj7749, I would just resize the one next to it if a linux, not windows, and the resize the boot.
[23:53] <Beldar> then*
[23:53] <raj7749> Beldar, i was hoping to do the same...
[23:53] <p0wder> frib:  what tool did you use to fix the partition table?
[23:54] <frib> p0wder, dd, i've never used testdisk don tknow what it is
[23:54] <frib> that is, used dd to erase it
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> frib: it couldn't read it so you wiped it? aren't you curious as to why it couldn't read it?
[23:54] <frib> no because i already konw why
[23:54] <frib> because I copied 512 bytes from another disk that was way bigger than it
[23:54] <nikin> it also downloads each file couple of times.. i see no more point why i have about 300 "Get:" lines
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> frib i see
[23:55] <Beldar> raj7749, You just need to do this from a live cd, I would use gparted
[23:55] <frib> hitsujiTMO, if i boot ubuntu live iso from a usb can I install it to that same usb?
[23:55] <schone> hello
[23:56] <nikin> never mind 300.. thats 28%..
[23:56] <schone> is there a way to add persistence to the stock ubuntu-12.04-desktop.iso I download from the website?
[23:56] <raj7749> Beldar, ya.. ill try with live cd... ubuntu live cd has gparted in it... so will try from that.. thank you..
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> frib no. that usb is locked
[23:56] <schone> I must use the ISO file, without unpacking as I am using a mac and a live USB...
[23:56] <frib> hitsujiTMO, ok thanks
[23:58] <p0wder> can i use dd to fix an sd cards partition table?
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> p0wder: dd won't "fix" it, it will overwrite it