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SonikkuAmerica | Rocking with Trusty Alpha 1! Congratulations for being the only alpha flavor thus far that can install itself properly! | 00:24 |
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valorie | what else have you tried, SonikkuAmerica? | 00:25 |
SonikkuAmerica | Xubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME's alphas both crash trying to write in something for GStreamer. | 00:26 |
SonikkuAmerica | (GTK+ problem, maybe? *grin*) | 00:26 |
valorie | could be | 00:26 |
valorie | no unity alpha? | 00:26 |
valorie | oh, they are rolling these days, right? | 00:26 |
SonikkuAmerica | Did they opt in? | 00:27 |
valorie | not sure; I don't follow ubuntu-devel | 00:27 |
SonikkuAmerica | They have dailies... haven't given them a shot yet | 00:28 |
SonikkuAmerica | valorie: I doubt you'll have time, but if you grab the latest Xubuntu ISO, it's a comedy at present. | 00:32 |
valorie | no time for that sort of comedy! | 00:32 |
valorie | tonight is my night with my dad in his nursing home | 00:32 |
SonikkuAmerica | I see | 00:32 |
valorie | I do seed all the released *buntu isos | 00:33 |
valorie | new ones, at least, and LTSs | 00:33 |
SonikkuAmerica | This is my first time doing extensive beta testing across flavors. | 00:33 |
SonikkuAmerica | (and alpha) | 00:33 |
valorie | tried lubuntu yet? | 00:34 |
valorie | or do they even have an alpha | 00:34 |
valorie | I've only done one alpha | 00:35 |
SonikkuAmerica | No, they don't, and they won't either. | 00:35 |
valorie | that might have been 12.04 | 00:35 |
valorie | it was steady | 00:35 |
valorie | usually not even beta | 00:35 |
valorie | a couple of times i have | 00:35 |
SonikkuAmerica | I did grab a daily, however. But I'm gonna wait until my other computer gets back from the repair shop and throw Lubuntu daily on that. | 00:35 |
valorie | our crew here is good | 00:36 |
valorie | they don't just throw stuff at the wall and hope it sticks | 00:36 |
valorie | they test before releasing | 00:36 |
SonikkuAmerica | lol, I fire up Xubuntu's Live image. I have to log in (!). After I do that, this is what I see, verbatim: "Welcome to the first opening of the panel. पैनल सेटिंग्स संग्रहीत करने के लिए एक नई व्यवस्था शुरू की गई है, क्योंकि यह एक ताजा प्रारंभिक विन्यास लोड | 00:38 |
SonikkuAmerica | करने के लिए है. जब आप पहली बार स्टार्टअप के लिए चाहते हैं जो सेटअप नीचे चुनें." | 00:38 |
SonikkuAmerica | If you can't see that, that's Hindi. | 00:39 |
valorie | I can | 00:39 |
valorie | I love how Hindi looks | 00:39 |
SonikkuAmerica | The button read: स्वीकार करना(O) (the OK button). | 00:41 |
valorie | lovely | 00:41 |
valorie | asking an indian friend what the above text says | 00:41 |
SonikkuAmerica | Now I know what the Hindi says because I've used XFCE in the past, but it doesn't give me the option to choose what I want... | 00:41 |
valorie | oh, ok | 00:41 |
SonikkuAmerica | (The Hindi text is "Because the panel moved to a new system for storing the settings, it has to load a fresh initial configuration. Choose below which setup you want for the first startup.") | 00:42 |
SonikkuAmerica | (which is what happens if there's no ~/.xfce4 dir) | 00:42 |
valorie | not ready for prime time | 00:42 |
SonikkuAmerica | Nope. Then it gave me the 4 icons the Live CD shows: "Home Folder" (in Hindi), Trash (in English), Install Xubuntu 14.04 LTS (in Hindi) and one other icon. | 00:43 |
SonikkuAmerica | Thank goodness Ubiquity was (mostly) in English... | 00:43 |
SonikkuAmerica | ... and that this is alpha/ | 00:44 |
SonikkuAmerica | Thankfully Ubuntu GNOME's Live desktop actually looked like GNOME. | 00:44 |
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kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1266333] package libqtgui4 4:4.8.4+dfsg-0ubuntu18.1 failed to install/upgrade: cannot copy extracte... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1266333 (by bradleyd) | 03:51 |
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kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1266333] package libqtgui4 4:4.8.4+dfsg-0ubuntu18.1 failed to install/upgrade: cannot copy extracte... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1266333 (by bradleyd) | 04:51 |
soee | good morning | 06:33 |
=== hitchcock.freenode.net changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu new year | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.97 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | ISO testing http://goo.gl/cRAawa ` | ||
lordievader | Good morning. | 08:03 |
tester56 | libQtScript does not seem to have a debug package ... should I file a bug against it? | 09:38 |
mitya57 | shadeslayer: Any update on qt4? | 09:49 |
tester56 | it seems dbg package for libqtscript is named libqt4-script-dbg :-) | 09:52 |
mitya57 | tester56: the main package is libqt4-script, and there is no "libqtscript" package | 10:06 |
tester56 | mitya57: yeah my mistake ... I was judging from a backtace ^^ | 10:07 |
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Riddell | yofel: you're on 4.11.5 today? | 11:47 |
Riddell | I'd like to get on with packaging some of the KF5 tars just so we get a good name when it launches | 11:47 |
Riddell | but also I've 600 e-mails to go through | 11:47 |
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Riddell | "Ryan Kavanagh (ryanakca) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2015-01-07" yay ryanakca still loves us! | 12:28 |
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BluesKaj | howdy folks | 12:42 |
ryanakca | Riddell: I do :) | 13:07 |
ryanakca | I don't have enough time to contribute to both Kubuntu and Debian with school work, but I still love Kubuntu and contribute to Debian instead in the hopes of hitting two birds with one stone :) Some day I hope to come back and actively contribute again though... | 13:08 |
jussi | ryanakca: we still love you for sharing your server with us :) | 13:41 |
claydoh | Mamarok: valorie that Ralf person on the ml is one to watch, I think | 13:48 |
* shadeslayer bounces to trello | 13:50 | |
Riddell | nice e-mail of the day http://pastebin.kde.org/p4nbgkuox | 14:35 |
kfunk | Riddell: 'nuff said! | 14:56 |
Riddell | hi kfunk, congrats on the e.v. membership | 14:57 |
kfunk | heh. thank you! | 14:57 |
shadeslayer | yofel: did you know overriden_command was something pkg-kde-tools specific? | 16:06 |
yofel | yes | 16:06 |
shadeslayer | okay, I didn't :D | 16:06 |
yofel | *blink* | 16:06 |
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu new year | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.5 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | ISO testing http://goo.gl/cRAawa ` | ||
yofel | do we have a chanserv protected topic now o.O? | 16:07 |
Riddell | override_dh_command is not | 16:07 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: no, using $(overriden_command) | 16:07 |
shadeslayer | because you used $(overriden_command) in libkolab and it has no effect | 16:08 |
shadeslayer | ( even throws a error in the build log ) | 16:08 |
Riddell | aah | 16:08 |
Riddell | clever pkg-kde-tools | 16:08 |
shadeslayer | http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2011-March/001573.html | 16:12 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: plz upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/libkolab_0.5.0-0ubuntu2.dsc | 16:12 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: onto it | 16:21 |
shadeslayer | thx | 16:21 |
Riddell | PaulW2U: yo! | 16:37 |
Riddell | you're into test cases? | 16:38 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: libkolab compiles not looking happy | 16:39 |
shadeslayer | huh? It compiled fine here | 16:39 |
shadeslayer | *looks* | 16:39 |
Riddell | powerpc and arm | 16:39 |
shadeslayer | bah, probably new symbols | 16:40 |
PaulW2U | Riddell: well sort of :o) | 16:40 |
Riddell | PaulW2U: as apachelogger says that website is a bit faffy and because we have a lot of queues to go through it may well be nobody looks at it (I haven't much) but you're welcome and encouraged to try | 16:42 |
Riddell | making some test cases then seeing if anyone runs them | 16:42 |
Riddell | would need conjoling | 16:42 |
PaulW2U | for now I'll hold off writing them. it seems that no-one else has for some months and they launchpad bugs were created without any reference to the kubuntu team or any other flavour come to that | 16:44 |
jussi | valorie: or ahoneybun about? | 16:47 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/libkolab_0.5.0-0ubuntu3.dsc | 17:07 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: actually hold off on that upload for a second | 17:10 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: oh.. too late | 17:10 |
shadeslayer | well, we'll find out soon enough, didn't notice arm64 was still building | 17:11 |
shadeslayer | should be fine | 17:11 |
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shadeslayer | Riddell: can you also review the Qt 4.8.5 merge in bzr | 17:30 |
shadeslayer | I'm reviewing it as well | 17:30 |
jussi | kde bug 253547 | 17:31 |
ubottu | KDE bug 253547 in general "Regression: since 4.5.2, KDE downloads multimedia files instead of letting applications stream them" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253547 | 17:31 |
jussi | has anyone got thoughts about how to fix that bug? or any more info needed that I could provide? | 17:33 |
jussi | apachelogger: harald? | 17:33 |
Riddell | mm, it should just pass the url if it's a kde application | 17:34 |
Riddell | which depends on some value in the .desktop file | 17:34 |
Riddell | else it downloads it | 17:35 |
jussi | hrm, so perhaps this is just a multibug thing where our .desktops are broken? or? | 17:37 |
jussi | Riddell: seems according to that bug it isnt fixed with the .desktop thing: "This is still present in ubuntu 13.04 KDE spin and Fedora 19 KDE spin (4.10.5). adding the protocols to vlc.desktop in home directory and under /usr/share/applications/ doesn't solve the problem." | 17:40 |
Riddell | jussi: hmm, so needs looked into whatever part of kdelibs manages that | 17:55 |
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Riddell | hi SonikkuAmerica | 18:21 |
tester56 | are backtraces created by apport accepted upstream (e.g. on bugs.kde.org)? | 18:24 |
tester56 | i have experimented a bit and found out that apart from formatting they are pretty identical ... | 18:25 |
tester56 | sometimes when an application crashes apport starts instead of drkonqui | 18:26 |
Riddell | yes they should be | 18:26 |
Riddell | how do you get a backtrace out of apport? | 18:26 |
tester56 | i think you have to have apport-retrace installed | 18:26 |
tester56 | in kde apport usually does not show up graphical | 18:27 |
tester56 | but you can find information in /var/crash | 18:27 |
tester56 | open the file and search for trace ... | 18:27 |
tester56 | here on my main setup I do not find traces ... but on my experimantal setup i have apport-retrace installed and there backtraces are there | 18:28 |
SonikkuAmerica | Riddell: Hello! | 18:30 |
Riddell | SonikkuAmerica: are you here to become an elite kubuntu contributor? | 18:30 |
tester56 | i think apport is actually a good reason to use ubuntu based systems ... because how do other distributions handle crashes of for example qt-only applications? | 18:31 |
kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1251140] KDE "display settings" control panel module displays empty window @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1251140 (by kolen) | 18:31 |
SonikkuAmerica | Actually, I've been approved by valorie to do a one-page landing for Kubuntu after the pattern of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/LubuntuLinks and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage | 18:31 |
SonikkuAmerica | Here's what I have so far: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/KubuntuLinks | 18:32 |
SonikkuAmerica | Just a basic layout and imported "other useful links" thus far... feel free to improve | 18:32 |
SonikkuAmerica | (I also have Alpha 1 in a VM too) | 18:33 |
SonikkuAmerica | So, Riddell, to answer your question, yes, I am come to contribute to your community in that wise :) | 18:34 |
Riddell | awooga | 18:36 |
Riddell | welcome along | 18:36 |
tester56 | because qt-only application do not include kcrash class ... | 18:37 |
kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1242633] unity pointer barriers sru bug @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1242633 (by Maarten Lankhorst) | 19:20 |
valorie | claydoh, mamarok: I've already written Ralf a guiding email about his language; got no reply. If I didn't cc the owner address, i should have | 20:03 |
valorie | jussi, here now | 20:04 |
valorie | plumbers have gone | 20:04 |
Mamarok | valorie: claydoh already did that, didn't you see that mail? | 20:07 |
claydoh | woot: from distrowatch" Kubuntu has regained quite a bit of popularity during the past year when it returned to the top 25 for the first time since 2010." | 20:15 |
claydoh | not that page hit rankings are uber important/realistic but cool cool cool ;) | 20:16 |
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valorie | Mamarok: no, so I must have done it first | 20:31 |
valorie | I'll look at my email again | 20:32 |
Mamarok | valorie: that should always go to the owners list, don't do this without Cc, else we have no trace of it | 20:37 |
valorie | I'll forward my copy now; sorry for not doing that earlier | 20:39 |
valorie | I'm sole LO on so many lists; sometimes forget that stuff on the few I co-manage | 20:39 |
valorie | boo, I must have deleted that entire thread | 20:48 |
valorie | anyway, he's been warned twice; once publicly, once privately | 20:48 |
valorie | time now to clean up after the plumbers etc. | 20:49 |
* Darkwing does a slow wave | 22:24 | |
Riddell | happy new year Darkwing | 22:24 |
Darkwing | Happy New Year to you all as well. | 22:25 |
Darkwing | dang it's cold. | 22:26 |
shadeslayer | go to Australia | 22:38 |
valorie | Darkwing: happy new year | 22:45 |
valorie | http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2014/01/did-global-warming-get-arctic-drunk | 22:45 |
valorie | first explanation of the jet stream and your cold weather that I've found understandable | 22:46 |
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