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SonikkuAmericaRocking with Trusty Alpha 1! Congratulations for being the only alpha flavor thus far that can install itself properly!00:24
valoriewhat else have you tried, SonikkuAmerica?00:25
SonikkuAmericaXubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME's alphas both crash trying to write in something for GStreamer.00:26
SonikkuAmerica(GTK+ problem, maybe? *grin*)00:26
valoriecould be00:26
valorieno unity alpha?00:26
valorieoh, they are rolling these days, right?00:26
SonikkuAmericaDid they opt in?00:27
valorienot sure; I don't follow ubuntu-devel00:27
SonikkuAmericaThey have dailies... haven't given them a shot yet00:28
SonikkuAmericavalorie: I doubt you'll have time, but if you grab the latest Xubuntu ISO, it's a comedy at present.00:32
valorieno time for that sort of comedy!00:32
valorietonight is my night with my dad in his nursing home00:32
SonikkuAmericaI see00:32
valorieI do seed all the released *buntu isos00:33
valorienew ones, at least, and LTSs00:33
SonikkuAmericaThis is my first time doing extensive beta testing across flavors.00:33
SonikkuAmerica(and alpha)00:33
valorietried lubuntu yet?00:34
valorieor do they even have an alpha00:34
valorieI've only done one alpha00:35
SonikkuAmericaNo, they don't, and they won't either.00:35
valoriethat might have been 12.0400:35
valorieit was steady00:35
valorieusually not even beta00:35
valoriea couple of times i have00:35
SonikkuAmericaI did grab a daily, however. But I'm gonna wait until my other computer gets back from the repair shop and throw Lubuntu daily on that.00:35
valorieour crew here is good00:36
valoriethey don't just throw stuff at the wall and hope it sticks00:36
valoriethey test before releasing00:36
SonikkuAmericalol, I fire up Xubuntu's Live image. I have to log in (!). After I do that, this is what I see, verbatim: "Welcome to the first opening of the panel. पैनल सेटिंग्स संग्रहीत करने के लिए एक नई व्यवस्था शुरू की गई है, क्योंकि यह एक ताजा प्रारंभिक विन्यास लोड 00:38
SonikkuAmericaकरने के लिए है. जब आप पहली बार स्टार्टअप के लिए चाहते हैं जो सेटअप नीचे चुनें."00:38
SonikkuAmericaIf you can't see that, that's Hindi.00:39
valorieI can00:39
valorieI love how Hindi looks00:39
SonikkuAmericaThe button read: स्वीकार करना(O) (the OK button).00:41
valorielovely00:41
valorieasking an indian friend what the above text says00:41
SonikkuAmericaNow I know what the Hindi says because I've used XFCE in the past, but it doesn't give me the option to choose what I want...00:41
valorieoh, ok00:41
SonikkuAmerica(The Hindi text is "Because the panel moved to a new system for storing the settings, it has to load a fresh initial configuration. Choose below which setup you want for the first startup.")00:42
SonikkuAmerica(which is what happens if there's no ~/.xfce4 dir)00:42
valorienot ready for prime time00:42
SonikkuAmericaNope. Then it gave me the 4 icons the Live CD shows: "Home Folder" (in Hindi), Trash (in English), Install Xubuntu 14.04 LTS (in Hindi) and one other icon.00:43
SonikkuAmericaThank goodness Ubiquity was (mostly) in English...00:43
SonikkuAmerica... and that this is alpha/00:44
SonikkuAmericaThankfully Ubuntu GNOME's Live desktop actually looked like GNOME.00:44
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kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1266333] package libqtgui4 4:4.8.4+dfsg-0ubuntu18.1 failed to install/upgrade: cannot copy extracte... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1266333 (by bradleyd)03:51
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kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1266333] package libqtgui4 4:4.8.4+dfsg-0ubuntu18.1 failed to install/upgrade: cannot copy extracte... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1266333 (by bradleyd)04:51
soeegood morning06:33
=== hitchcock.freenode.net changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu new year | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.97 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | ISO testing http://goo.gl/cRAawa `
lordievaderGood morning.08:03
tester56libQtScript does not seem to have a debug package ... should I file a bug against it?09:38
mitya57shadeslayer: Any update on qt4?09:49
tester56it seems dbg package for libqtscript is named libqt4-script-dbg  :-)09:52
mitya57tester56: the main package is libqt4-script, and there is no "libqtscript" package10:06
tester56mitya57: yeah my mistake ... I was judging from a backtace ^^ 10:07
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Riddellyofel: you're on 4.11.5 today?11:47
RiddellI'd like to get on with packaging some of the KF5 tars just so we get a good name when it launches11:47
Riddellbut also I've 600 e-mails to go through11:47
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Riddell"Ryan Kavanagh (ryanakca) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2015-01-07" yay ryanakca still loves us!12:28
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BluesKajhowdy folks12:42
ryanakcaRiddell: I do :)13:07
ryanakcaI don't have enough time to contribute to both Kubuntu and Debian with school work, but I still love Kubuntu and contribute to Debian instead in the hopes of hitting two birds with one stone :) Some day I hope to come back and actively contribute again though...13:08
jussiryanakca: we still love you for sharing your server with us :)13:41
claydohMamarok: valorie that Ralf person on the ml is one to watch, I think13:48
* shadeslayer bounces to trello13:50
Riddellnice e-mail of the day http://pastebin.kde.org/p4nbgkuox14:35
kfunkRiddell: 'nuff said!14:56
Riddellhi kfunk, congrats on the e.v. membership14:57
kfunkheh. thank you!14:57
shadeslayeryofel: did you know overriden_command was something pkg-kde-tools specific?16:06
yofelyes16:06
shadeslayerokay, I didn't :D16:06
yofel*blink*16:06
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu new year | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.5 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | ISO testing http://goo.gl/cRAawa `
yofeldo we have a chanserv protected topic now o.O?16:07
Riddelloverride_dh_command is not16:07
shadeslayerRiddell: no, using $(overriden_command)16:07
shadeslayerbecause you used $(overriden_command) in libkolab and it has no effect16:08
shadeslayer( even throws a error in the build log )16:08
Riddellaah16:08
Riddellclever pkg-kde-tools16:08
shadeslayerhttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2011-March/001573.html16:12
shadeslayerRiddell: plz upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/libkolab_0.5.0-0ubuntu2.dsc16:12
Riddellshadeslayer: onto it16:21
shadeslayerthx16:21
RiddellPaulW2U: yo!16:37
Riddellyou're into test cases?16:38
Riddellshadeslayer: libkolab compiles not looking happy16:39
shadeslayerhuh? It compiled fine here16:39
shadeslayer*looks*16:39
Riddellpowerpc and arm16:39
shadeslayerbah, probably new symbols16:40
PaulW2URiddell: well sort of :o)16:40
RiddellPaulW2U: as apachelogger says that website is a bit faffy and because we have a lot of queues to go through it may well be nobody looks at it (I haven't much) but you're welcome and encouraged to try16:42
Riddellmaking some test cases then seeing if anyone runs them16:42
Riddellwould need conjoling16:42
PaulW2Ufor now I'll hold off writing them. it seems that no-one else has for some months and they launchpad bugs were created without any reference to the kubuntu team or any other flavour come to that16:44
jussivalorie: or ahoneybun about?16:47
shadeslayerRiddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/libkolab_0.5.0-0ubuntu3.dsc17:07
shadeslayerRiddell: actually hold off on that upload for a second17:10
Riddellshadeslayer: oh.. too late17:10
shadeslayerwell, we'll find out soon enough, didn't notice arm64 was still building17:11
shadeslayershould be fine17:11
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shadeslayerRiddell: can you also review the Qt 4.8.5 merge in bzr17:30
shadeslayerI'm reviewing it as well17:30
jussikde bug 25354717:31
ubottuKDE bug 253547 in general "Regression: since 4.5.2, KDE downloads multimedia files instead of letting applications stream them" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25354717:31
jussihas anyone got thoughts about how to fix that bug? or any more info needed that I could provide?17:33
jussiapachelogger: harald?17:33
Riddellmm, it should just pass the url if it's a kde application17:34
Riddellwhich depends on some value in the .desktop file17:34
Riddellelse it downloads it17:35
jussihrm, so perhaps this is just a multibug thing where our .desktops are broken? or?17:37
jussiRiddell: seems according to that bug it isnt fixed with the .desktop thing: "This is still present in ubuntu 13.04 KDE spin and Fedora 19 KDE spin (4.10.5). adding the protocols to vlc.desktop in home directory and under /usr/share/applications/ doesn't solve the problem."17:40
Riddelljussi: hmm, so needs looked into whatever part of kdelibs manages that17:55
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Riddellhi SonikkuAmerica 18:21
tester56are backtraces created by apport accepted upstream (e.g. on bugs.kde.org)?18:24
tester56i have experimented a bit and found out that apart from formatting they are pretty identical ...18:25
tester56sometimes when an application crashes apport starts instead of drkonqui18:26
Riddellyes they should be18:26
Riddellhow do you get a backtrace out of apport?18:26
tester56i think you have to have apport-retrace installed18:26
tester56in kde apport usually does not show up graphical18:27
tester56but you can find information in /var/crash18:27
tester56open the file and search for trace ...18:27
tester56here on my main setup I do not find traces ... but on my experimantal setup i have apport-retrace installed and there backtraces are there18:28
SonikkuAmericaRiddell: Hello!18:30
RiddellSonikkuAmerica: are you here to become an elite kubuntu contributor?18:30
tester56i think apport is actually a good reason to use ubuntu based systems ... because how do other distributions handle crashes of for example qt-only applications? 18:31
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1251140] KDE "display settings" control panel module displays empty window @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1251140 (by kolen)18:31
SonikkuAmericaActually, I've been approved by valorie to do a one-page landing for Kubuntu after the pattern of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/LubuntuLinks and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage18:31
SonikkuAmericaHere's what I have so far: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/KubuntuLinks18:32
SonikkuAmericaJust a basic layout and imported "other useful links" thus far... feel free to improve18:32
SonikkuAmerica(I also have Alpha 1 in a VM too)18:33
SonikkuAmericaSo, Riddell, to answer your question, yes, I am come to contribute to your community in that wise :)18:34
Riddellawooga18:36
Riddellwelcome along18:36
tester56because qt-only application do not include kcrash class ... 18:37
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1242633] unity pointer barriers sru bug @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1242633 (by Maarten Lankhorst)19:20
valorieclaydoh, mamarok: I've already written Ralf a guiding email about his language; got no reply. If I didn't cc the owner address, i should have20:03
valoriejussi, here now20:04
valorieplumbers have gone20:04
Mamarokvalorie: claydoh already did that, didn't you see that mail?20:07
claydohwoot:  from distrowatch" Kubuntu has regained quite a bit of popularity during the past year when it returned to the top 25 for the first time since 2010."20:15
claydohnot that page hit rankings are uber important/realistic but cool cool cool ;)20:16
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valorieMamarok: no, so I must have done it first20:31
valorieI'll look at my email again20:32
Mamarokvalorie: that should always go to the owners list, don't do this without Cc, else we have no trace of it20:37
valorieI'll forward my copy now; sorry for not doing that earlier20:39
valorieI'm sole LO on so many lists; sometimes forget that stuff on the few I co-manage20:39
valorieboo, I must have deleted that entire thread20:48
valorieanyway, he's been warned twice; once publicly, once privately20:48
valorietime now to clean up after the plumbers etc.20:49
* Darkwing does a slow wave22:24
Riddellhappy new year Darkwing 22:24
DarkwingHappy New Year to you all as well.22:25
Darkwingdang it's cold.22:26
shadeslayergo to Australia22:38
valorieDarkwing: happy new year22:45
valoriehttp://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2014/01/did-global-warming-get-arctic-drunk22:45
valoriefirst explanation of the jet stream and your cold weather that I've found understandable22:46

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