[00:39] <jtayloy3222> Hey man, which app utility is used to backup Lubuntu 13.10?
[04:48] <Jaybot> i need help with permissions
[04:48] <ianorlin> permissons on what?
[04:48] <Jaybot> i have a webserver with lubuntu
[04:48] <Jaybot> i remote into it using ftp/ssh
[04:49] <Jaybot> when i update the site using ftp, apache can no longer serve up the pages
[04:49]  * ianorlin isn't good with those maybe someone else
[04:49] <Jaybot> ok thanks anyway :)
[04:52] <Jaybot> This guide looks promising: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68007/configuring-permissions-for-ftp-and-apache
[04:52] <Jaybot> but i'm afraid to run through taht without some help
[04:54] <ianorlin> were you reloading apache?
[04:54] <Jaybot> oh no
[04:54] <Jaybot> haha hang on let me try that
[04:58] <Jaybot> is it            sudo service apache2 reload                 or           sudo service apache2 restart                 aka what's the difference?
[04:59] <ianorlin> in the askubuntu answer you linked I think it was sudo  /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[05:02] <Jaybot> ok so reload happened, but there is still a permissions issue on the page I just ftp copied over
[05:03] <ianorlin> I need more than a permissons issue?
[05:03] <Jaybot> would you like go to a pm? I can show you my webpage and the particulars
[05:05] <ianorlin> not really as then others can't jump in to help
[05:05] <Jaybot> ok
[05:05] <Jaybot> sec i'll provide some info
[05:07] <Jaybot> there is a link at the bottom of www.vancitynetworking.com
[05:09] <Jaybot> it's called 'eflyer' and apache can't host it for what i think is a permissions issue. I think I have to do a chown type command to give apache permission
[05:09] <Jaybot> another command that is useful is   ls -al       it shows the file permissions
[05:10] <Jaybot> but i dont really know what i'm doing :/
[05:17] <ianorlin> does it work on localhost?
[05:18] <Jaybot> on my main development pc it works fine
[05:18] <ianorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions shows info on file permissons
[05:18] <Jaybot> but when I ftp copy it to my webserver that link doesn't work
[05:19] <Jaybot> ok thanks
[05:29] <Jaybot> what's up zombie hoffa, are you in Calgary?
[05:30] <Unit193> Are they jaybot:jaybot 644 when you transfer them?
[05:31] <Jaybot> the file that works fine is:             -rw-rwxr--  1 www-data www-data    211 Jan  5 21:06 index.html
[05:32] <Jaybot> the directory whose contents can't be read is:                drwx--S---  2 human    www-data   4096 Jan  5 20:31 eflyer
[05:32] <Jaybot> it appears the group        www-data doesn't have read or execute privileges to the directory
[05:32] <Jaybot> could that be the problem?
[05:32] <Jaybot> apache2 is part of the www-data group
[05:34] <Jaybot> I'm looking for a command that will "add read+write permissions" for the "group www-data" to the "directory eflyer and all it's contents"
[05:34] <Jaybot> and i'm getting close, just reading this documentation
[05:34] <ianorlin> have you read man chmod
[05:35] <Jaybot> idk i dont think so
[05:35] <ianorlin> that is the command but you should read manual so you learn it for yourself
[05:36] <Jaybot> will do thanks
[05:46] <Jaybot> Got it, thanks for the advice and the link ianorlin :)
[05:46] <ianorlin> you're welcome
[06:20] <Jaybot> goodnight folks
[06:20] <ianorlin> goodnight
[13:06] <koell> How to autostart applications on lubuntu at start up? I tried .desktop files in .config/autostart but no application in there starts.
[13:16] <koell> How can I autostart applications in lubuntu? All those methods on http://askubuntu.com/questions/159008/how-to-add-startup-applications-in-lubuntu didn't work. :(
[13:20] <koell> ok got it >>> http://askubuntu.com/a/377407
[13:37] <harmem> hi, is this the correct place to ask about issues with the ppc version?
[14:39] <luckydb> hello guys, does it work for anybody lubuntu touchscreen and onboard keyboard?
[14:39] <luckydb> (onboard:15515): ERROR **: AT-SPI: COuldn't connect to accessibility bus
[18:10] <E8newallm> Is it possible to download the entire Lubuntu source code anywhere?
[18:12] <holstein> E8newallm: the source is available for anything in the source repository.. you can also download the entire iso anytime... there is no "click here to download the entire source of everything" button, since, that would be a challenge to maintain
[18:12] <holstein> E8newallm: you might want to just download a live CD, and poke around in a package manager.. though, you can likely browse whatever you are looking for without being on the live CD
[18:13] <holstein> E8newallm: the repos are the main ubuntu ones, so there will be no "lubuntu" specific ones needed
[18:13] <E8newallm> I was more after like the source code of the live disk
[18:14] <holstein> E8newallm: you can download the live disc
[18:14] <E8newallm> Like the basic ubuntu/lubuntu installation
[18:14] <E8newallm> is the live disk source code?
[18:14] <holstein> E8newallm: im not sure what you are after
[18:15] <holstein> E8newallm: the build scripts?
[18:15] <E8newallm> Ermm
[18:15] <E8newallm> Nah
[18:16] <E8newallm> Is there no base linux/lubuntu system?
[18:16] <holstein> E8newallm: linux is the kernel.. lubuntu is an official variant of ubuntu
[18:17] <holstein> E8newallm: the source for everything is in the repositories
[18:17] <E8newallm> Ah right ok
[18:17] <E8newallm> Is there a list anywhere of what software lubuntu is made of?
[18:18] <E8newallm> As in what software lubuntu uses on top of linux to make a bare system?
[18:18] <holstein> E8newallm: linux is just the kernel.. it uses the main ubuntu repositories.. official sources from the ubuntu repositories
[18:18] <E8newallm> (Sorry if I'm not describing myself well :P)
[18:19] <holstein> E8newallm: there is not "bare system".. just whatever gets put together from the sources
[18:19] <holstein> !mini | E8newallm is as close to a bare system on an iso that i know of
[18:19] <holstein> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/lubuntu-desktop describes the lubuntu-desktop metapackage.. but there would be more packages in the lubuntu distro
[18:20] <E8newallm> I think they're what I'm after
[18:20] <holstein> one could download the live CD, and load up a package manager, such as synaptic, and look and see what is installed
[18:20] <holstein> there will be lots of dependencies and lib's that may not be listed there that will be pulled in as well
[18:22] <holstein> E8newallm: i need to run.. feel free and ask in #ubuntu , if its slow here, and you ned to know something about packages in general
[18:22] <E8newallm> Alright, thanks for your help, I think that minimal was what I'm after :0
[18:22] <E8newallm> :)*
[18:50] <Hutch> Hello #Lubuntu
[18:53] <Hutch> I thought there was a centre for setting in lubuntu. Must have got mixed up with the software center
[18:53] <Hutch> *settings
[18:56] <Hutch> interesting. I never knew that
[19:01] <ianorlin> there was but it was just links to programs
[19:01] <ianorlin> any setting in partiuclar you want to change?
[19:02] <Hutch> Hi ianorlin touchpad scrolling  to 2 fingers
[19:03] <Hutch> the side scroller does my head in. I keep going to the 2nd desktop or in game it zooms in/out
[19:06] <Hutch> I'm thinking I'll need to install synaptics
[19:11] <ianorlin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKhxT5AHqP4 shows configuring touchpad I am not that expiernced
[19:12] <ianorlin> terminal based synclient is installed
[19:16] <Hutch> ok thanks ianorlin
[19:26] <Hutch> I have installed gsynaptics and disabled continuous edge scrolling but I can still edge scroll :-(
[19:26] <ianorlin> Hutch do you mean enabled?
[19:27] <Hutch> I uncheckeed enable
[19:27] <ianorlin> oh
[19:27] <ianorlin> is there an apply button you have to hit?
[19:27] <Hutch> but it still allows me to do it
[19:28] <Hutch> Nope just check boxes but let me re check
[19:29] <Hutch> nope. There's an ok button (I pressed it) but no luck
[19:30] <Hutch> there is a two finger scroll option but it makes no sense if you can still scroll with one finger
[19:32] <Hutch> I'll reboot
[19:32] <Hutch> brb
[19:32] <ianorlin> ok
[19:38] <Hutch> Eureka
[19:40] <Hutch> Wasn't the obvious cont edge scrolling option but the slightly less obv enable vertical scrolling option :)
[19:40] <ianorlin> ah
[19:43] <Hutch> http://gyazo.com/161bb03e34c0a16528f7f24027814c26
[19:44] <Hutch> ^^screenshot using gyazo. a neat little screen capture app I found yesterday
[19:46] <ianorlin> lubuntu has scrot which you can launch from the terminal installed by default
[19:46] <Hutch> no more annoying accidental edge scrolling :-D My life is once more complete and fulfilling......Well nearly ;-)
[19:47] <Hutch> Thanks ianorlin GL with your interview ;)