[06:17] <Uallas> Good Morning
[06:20] <Noskcaj> hey Uallas
[06:30] <Uallas> Noskcaj: How are you?
[06:38] <Noskcaj> pretty good. you?
[06:39] <Uallas> i'm fine. Thanks. One new monday :)
[15:24] <Mez> Hi all, Running Ubuntu Gnome 12.10 - how can I get gdm working in 2D mode?
[17:25] <roasted> hello you beautiful people
[17:45] <Uallas> Hi all.
[17:53] <roasted> Hello
[19:45] <roasted> darkxst: a thought... Mint (via a simple checkbox in the software properties menu) allows you to pull in backports. It's how they deliver Cinnamon 2.0.X to Mint 13 LTS... what if UG integrated an option like that to relieve the need for all of these PPAs to pull in 3.10?
[21:27] <darkxst> roasted, I don't believe we can ship library/core updates via trusy-backports
[21:27] <roasted> darkxst: I was thinking along the lines of simply editing that menu to obtain a different checkbox.
[21:28] <roasted> With UG being so PPA centric it would cut down on that. Even after using UG frequently I had to dig around to see which PPA did in order to obtain a true 3.10 instance.
[21:28] <roasted> couldn't help but to think a checkbox to enable those packages would be nice. Just a thought. :P
[21:31] <darkxst> I suppose, not sure if we would able to add a patch in the archives though that does that
[21:32] <darkxst> also its not even that easy to detect if a computer is running Ubuntu GNOME
[21:35] <Noskcaj> Or even define ubuntu-gnome
[22:48] <hardboot> Installed 14.04, no problems other than if you flip around things in tweak too too fast you'll crash gnome :-/
[22:49] <hardboot> hmm, how do i get a window list in the top bar
[22:51] <darkxst> hardboot, there is an extension for that in the gnome-shell-extensions package
[22:58] <hardboot> who's inane design choice was to have tweak tool and settings two seperate things
[22:59] <hardboot> pretty much everything in tweak should be things in settings
[22:59] <hardboot> something suer trivial such as in background, there's no stretch/fit/zoom options
[22:59] <hardboot> or is tweak tool a pipeline thing where thigns then get integrated later
[23:42] <darkxst> hardboot, tweak tool is not an official GNOME core app
[23:43] <hardboot> ya, although it's prety much mandatory
[23:43] <hardboot> things missing in gnome which it handles
[23:45] <darkxst> yes, and alot of the settings are too advanced for the normal settings panel
[23:46] <hardboot> too advanced, yet adminstrative thigns aren't too advanced for settings?
[23:46] <hardboot> Can't change theme but I can edit user accounts
[23:52] <darkxst> managing users is a core feature, changing themes is not
[23:54] <hardboot> win 1 could change theme, why shouldn't gnome
[23:54] <hardboot> A serial terminal from the 70's should out-feature a modern desktop in custimization.
[23:54] <hardboot> should not*
[23:55] <darkxst> theming is not supported by the GNOME devs, in addition very many themes are often broken