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xperia | hi. i have problems with getting phppgadmin to run on my ubuntu server. i have installed it without any problem but it looks like there is a problem with apache configuration. Everytime i try to call the url with /phppgadmin i get the error message: 404 Site not found. Can anybody help with debugging/solving this Problem? | 01:05 |
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MavKen | is it possible that when i create a new user, it also creates a new file in the sites-available folder pointing to the users www folder? | 04:01 |
pmatulis | MavKen: try it | 04:23 |
grendal_prime | surefire way to restart network services after altering the gateway in the /etc/networking/interfaces file. I am remoted in via ssh and need to restart services without rebooting the machine? | 04:35 |
grendal_prime | service networking restart ? | 04:35 |
grendal_prime | bueller? | 04:36 |
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koolhead17 | zul: let me know when your around | 07:12 |
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jamespage | morning | 09:16 |
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Joe_knock | Hello, can anyone recommend a useful outbound only mail server? | 14:07 |
jamespage | zul, btw I reworked your dep-8 tests for waitress into package build tests - hope that was OK with you :-) | 14:09 |
zul | jamespage: knock yourself out | 14:09 |
jamespage | zul, good-oh | 14:09 |
zul | jamespage: i had a look at mariadb its ftbfs in trusty right now (in -proposed) | 14:09 |
jamespage | zul, yeah - its needs an update for compat with bison >= 3 | 14:10 |
jamespage | otto is on it - a newer upstream release should do the ticket | 14:10 |
jamespage | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733002 | 14:10 |
zul | jamespage: yeah i applied that, buts its failing on the tests as well | 14:11 |
jamespage | zul, I'd probably just pump in the new upstream release to resolve | 14:11 |
zul | jamespage: okies | 14:14 |
* zul almost totally slacked off during the christmas break | 14:14 | |
zul | koolhead17: ping | 14:15 |
Joe_knock | is Postfix too bulky for outbound only tasks? | 14:16 |
patdk-wk_ | heh? | 14:16 |
patdk-wk_ | outbound only? | 14:16 |
patdk-wk_ | there has to be something inbound, for postfix to make it go outbound | 14:16 |
jamespage | Joe_knock, I use postfix for outbound only | 14:17 |
jamespage | works OK | 14:17 |
jamespage | I've also used exim in the past | 14:17 |
Joe_knock | patdk-wk_: I run a webapp that is suppose to automatically send out updates, therefore I need an outbound-only mail server. On ubuntuforums.org they recommend alternatives | 14:17 |
rbasak | Joe_knock: I use msmtp, which isn't even really an MTA, but makes /usr/sbin/sendmail work. Also look into nullmailer. | 14:18 |
Joe_knock | rbasak those are the exact solutions I saw here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046275 | 14:18 |
zul | jamespage: can you take care of the dh-python backport, its ftbfs im not exactly 100% sure what you did ill take care of the rest | 14:18 |
jamespage | zul, yeah - sure | 14:18 |
jamespage | zul, the branch is under ~ubuntu-cloud-archive - I'll remerge | 14:18 |
zul | jamespage: thanks | 14:18 |
rbasak | Joe_knock: for a webapp I'd avoid msmtp. It blocks (by design) during the SMTP transaction as it has no queue. For a webapp, you'll want an "immediate" queued send, so nullmailer or postfix. | 14:19 |
Joe_knock | rbasak is postfix really as 'bulky' as the thread says? I'm running on 1GB memory, so if it's too big, I will consider something like nullmailer instead | 14:20 |
patdk-wk_ | postfix should use approx 2-5mb of ram | 14:21 |
rbasak | Joe_knock: it might feel "bulky", but most server daemons aren't bulky at all in today's terms. Unless they're Java based or something. | 14:21 |
patdk-wk_ | mine is using 4mb ram, idle, and then about 2mb per email it's actively sending | 14:22 |
Joe_knock | I can live with 2-5MB of RAM usage. How much would nullmailer use? | 14:22 |
jamespage | zul, dh-python done | 14:30 |
zul | jamespage: cool thanks | 14:30 |
zul | jamespage: ill add libvirt-python to the ca today as well | 14:30 |
jamespage | zul, +1 | 14:33 |
jamespage | (for addition of libvirt-python to CA) | 14:33 |
jamespage | zul, oh - can i get a +1 for rabbitmq-server as well please? | 14:33 |
jamespage | zul, the 3.1.x series has a load of improvements from a throughput perspective that we should be using | 14:33 |
zul | jamespage: +1 | 14:33 |
jamespage | and we can't backport them to the 2.7.x series on 12.04 | 14:34 |
jamespage | zul, why do we need the numactl stuff for CA? | 14:34 |
zul | jamespage: libvirt | 14:35 |
jamespage | zul, ok | 14:35 |
zul | jamespage: +1 for libusbredirparser-dev (newer version required for qemu) | 14:40 |
jamespage | zul, +1 | 14:41 |
hallyn | ahs3: are you around? there's a trivially mergeable libcap2 2.24 at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libcap-2.24.pkg/libcap2_2.24-1.dsc | 15:13 |
hallyn | (i'll email the pkg maintainer first. just letting you know i may be asking you about pushing it later :) | 15:15 |
apw | jamespage, hey ... openvswitch ... the current dkms package isn't hacking it with 3.13, are we using any of its features in the mid-term or is the in kernel good enough | 15:24 |
jamespage | apw, it has one feature don't have in kernel - I suspect the bump not to be to hard | 15:24 |
apw | there was a f | 15:25 |
apw | jamespage, there was a fairly big change in the id management in multicast bits | 15:25 |
jamespage | apw, oh god | 15:25 |
apw | jamespage, lots of changes to interaces, and worse to internal members the dkms package is poking. might be easy, and they may have fixed it upstream i guess already, which is why i am here; as you did the last sync upstream | 15:29 |
jamespage | apw, looking now | 15:31 |
apw | jamespage, the 3.13 kernel is in the CKT PPA if you ned something to test against | 15:32 |
smoser | rbasak, ping | 16:16 |
rbasak | smoser: pong | 16:21 |
smoser | rbasak, http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/cloud-tools-next_versions.html | 16:22 |
smoser | could you look at uvtool there ? | 16:22 |
rbasak | smoser: on my TODO | 16:22 |
smoser | k | 16:23 |
smoser | gracias | 16:23 |
rbasak | smoser: is there any urgency here? I was going to look at it next week. | 16:23 |
rbasak | It's straightforward - I was just bundling it with a pile of other uvtool stuff. | 16:23 |
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zul | jamespage: im going to leave xen as it is in the CA since the newer version was a bump for an ocaml build in trusty | 16:41 |
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Joe_knock | Hello. How do I display the system information page again that shows up after you login? | 19:17 |
Joe_knock | Doesn't matter, found it. | 19:23 |
TJ- | Joe_knock: /var/run/motd, generated from the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/ by pam_motd.so at log-in | 19:26 |
Joe_knock | TJ- I ran: landscape-sysinfo | 19:26 |
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derek_ | Hi all | 19:50 |
derek_ | any one aware of the problem on 13.10 where the installer freezes at the language selection? | 19:51 |
derek_ | it seems to be a USB keyboard issue | 19:51 |
derek_ | but I cannot find a solution to this as I only have USB keyboards | 19:52 |
Joe_knock | Does anyone use exim-4 here? I configured it and now I want to make it send automated emails from my application. How do I configure the email address? | 19:52 |
zerick | automated you said ? | 19:53 |
Joe_knock | I fowarded a mail to myself, so it seems that exim-4 attaches emails to users. I now need to create a user I suppose? | 19:54 |
Joe_knock | zerick, the automation will occur from the application, I just need the email address to exist | 19:54 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: check out the sendmail manpage; -f will set the envelope-from address | 19:55 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: if you want to change the From: header instead, you just need to configure your application to write the correct thing in the header | 19:56 |
Joe_knock | sarnold, so even though it will be sending from my server user account, I can disguise it as another name? | 19:56 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: sure. just edit the From: line to say whatever you like. | 19:57 |
Joe_knock | sarnold, your first suggestion (sendmail manpage; -f) deals with exim itself, whilst the second one (change From: header) should be done within my external webapp? | 19:58 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: correct | 19:59 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: though, the -f option to sendmail would also be something you would configure with the way your application calls sendmail when it wishes to send mail. | 19:59 |
Joe_knock | sarnold wouldn't it be more risky to use the in-application method instead of just making a more direct change within exim itself? | 20:00 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: exim may or may not have a setting for "every email from this host should be sent From_ <foo@example.com>" or similar for "From: " header.. | 20:01 |
Joe_knock | sarnold I am a subdomain with just one email address forwarding stuff. | 20:02 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: yeah, but exim is a general-purpose mailer. it just might not have that feature. it's been 15 years since I last configured exim, I can't recall if it had that specifically :) | 20:03 |
sarnold | of course people often complain that exim's configuration language is more a programming language and that everything is possible.. | 20:04 |
Joe_knock | sarnold: I used this guide to make it a send-only mailer: https://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin?format=print | 20:04 |
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toyotapie | Hello, | 20:15 |
toyotapie | the command "time --quiet date" gives me an error "--quiet: command not found" but man pages said it should supress status reporting. Any ideas? | 20:15 |
sarnold | toyotapie: 'time' is a funny thing; there is both /usr/bin/time and the shell built-in 'time' command. check the output of 'which time' and 'type time' to see the difference. | 20:16 |
sarnold | toyotapie: you can probably get what you want by running /usr/bin/time --quiet date | 20:16 |
toyotapie | sarnold, you are exactly right. Thanks :d | 20:17 |
Joe_knock | sarnold, if I change the From: in the application, but that email address doesn't explicitly exist on my server, will emails send? | 20:21 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: yes | 20:22 |
Joe_knock | That is fascinating. Sounds like it works dynamically. | 20:22 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: it's even less impressive than that. you just type whatever you want there. president@whitehouse.gov or take your pick. hehe. | 20:24 |
Joe_knock | I always assumed you had to explicitly declare an email address in a mail server application (you can't do this dynamic stuff on CPanel). | 20:25 |
sarnold | yeah, those have to aim for common cases and also what's easy to describe in a gui. :) | 20:27 |
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Joe_knock | Now I just need to test out these mailers within the application itself. | 20:29 |
Joe_knock | sarnold thanks a million!!! it worked :D :D | 20:43 |
sarnold | Joe_knock: nice :) have fun! | 20:45 |
xibalba | is it possibly to find a file over 4 hours old ? | 21:05 |
xibalba | i'm looking at the `find` man page but not seeing exactly what i need | 21:05 |
patdk-wk_ | define 4hours old? | 21:06 |
patdk-wk_ | find . -mtime 4 | 21:06 |
patdk-wk_ | or did you mean, less than 4hours? find . -mtime -4 | 21:06 |
xibalba | i have a directly w/hourly backups | 21:07 |
xibalba | if the file is over 4 hours old, i'd like to delete it | 21:07 |
patdk-wk_ | find . -mtime +4 | 21:07 |
patdk-wk_ | find . -mtime +4 -delete | 21:07 |
xibalba | i did that but didn't get what i expected | 21:07 |
patdk-wk_ | ctime maybe? | 21:07 |
xibalba | k | 21:07 |
patdk-wk_ | creation time, vs modification time | 21:07 |
xibalba | yea | 21:07 |
xibalba | tried atime too | 21:07 |
patdk-wk_ | most people disable atime | 21:08 |
patdk-wk_ | atime = last time the file was read | 21:08 |
xibalba | accessed time | 21:08 |
patdk-wk_ | ya, it's evil :) | 21:08 |
xibalba | got this file | 21:10 |
xibalba | -rw-r--r-- 1 dbbackups dbbackups 370576384 Jan 6 12:07 | 21:10 |
xibalba | current time is | 21:11 |
xibalba | Mon Jan 6 14:11:03 MST 2014 | 21:11 |
xibalba | so i just find find to pick this up | 21:11 |
xibalba | find . -mtime +1 | 21:11 |
sarnold | ctime != creation time | 21:11 |
xibalba | 2nd file in there w/timestamp of Jan 6 14:11 | 21:11 |
patdk-wk_ | oh ya, change | 21:13 |
patdk-wk_ | still, normally works out to creation for my stuff | 21:14 |
patdk-wk_ | probably cause most of my stuff doesn't update that crap correctly :) | 21:14 |
sarnold | what're you doing behind the back of the OS? :) | 21:17 |
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