[01:05] <xperia> hi. i have problems with getting phppgadmin to run on my ubuntu server. i have installed it without any problem but it looks like there is a problem with apache configuration. Everytime i try to call the url with /phppgadmin i get the error message: 404 Site not found. Can anybody help with debugging/solving this Problem?
[04:01] <MavKen> is it possible that when i create a new user, it also creates a new file in the sites-available folder pointing to the users www folder?
[04:23] <pmatulis> MavKen: try it
[04:35] <grendal_prime> surefire way to restart network services after altering the gateway in the /etc/networking/interfaces file.  I am remoted in via ssh and need to restart services without rebooting the machine?
[04:35] <grendal_prime> service networking restart ?
[04:36] <grendal_prime> bueller?
[07:12] <koolhead17> zul: let me know when your around
[09:16] <jamespage> morning
[14:07] <Joe_knock> Hello, can anyone recommend a useful outbound only mail server?
[14:09] <jamespage> zul, btw I reworked your dep-8 tests for waitress into package build tests - hope that was OK with you :-)
[14:09] <zul> jamespage:  knock yourself out
[14:09] <jamespage> zul, good-oh
[14:09] <zul> jamespage:  i had a look at mariadb its ftbfs in trusty right now (in -proposed)
[14:10] <jamespage> zul, yeah - its needs an update for compat with bison >= 3
[14:10] <jamespage> otto is on it - a newer upstream release should do the ticket
[14:10] <jamespage> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733002
[14:11] <zul> jamespage:  yeah i applied that, buts its failing on the tests as well
[14:11] <jamespage> zul, I'd probably just pump in the new upstream release to resolve
[14:14] <zul> jamespage:  okies
[14:14]  * zul almost totally slacked off during the christmas break
[14:15] <zul> koolhead17:  ping
[14:16] <Joe_knock> is Postfix too bulky for outbound only tasks?
[14:16] <patdk-wk_> heh?
[14:16] <patdk-wk_> outbound only?
[14:16] <patdk-wk_> there has to be something inbound, for postfix to make it go outbound
[14:17] <jamespage> Joe_knock, I use postfix for outbound only
[14:17] <jamespage> works OK
[14:17] <jamespage> I've also used exim in the past
[14:17] <Joe_knock> patdk-wk_: I run a webapp that is suppose to automatically send out updates, therefore I need an outbound-only mail server. On ubuntuforums.org they recommend alternatives
[14:18] <rbasak> Joe_knock: I use msmtp, which isn't even really an MTA, but makes /usr/sbin/sendmail work. Also look into nullmailer.
[14:18] <Joe_knock> rbasak those are the exact solutions I saw here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046275
[14:18] <zul> jamespage:  can you take care of the dh-python backport, its ftbfs im not exactly 100% sure what you did ill take care of the rest
[14:18] <jamespage> zul, yeah - sure
[14:18] <jamespage> zul, the branch is under ~ubuntu-cloud-archive - I'll remerge
[14:18] <zul> jamespage:  thanks
[14:19] <rbasak> Joe_knock: for a webapp I'd avoid msmtp. It blocks (by design) during the SMTP transaction as it has no queue. For a webapp, you'll want an "immediate" queued send, so nullmailer or postfix.
[14:20] <Joe_knock> rbasak is postfix really as 'bulky' as the thread says? I'm running on 1GB memory, so if it's too big, I will consider something like nullmailer instead
[14:21] <patdk-wk_> postfix should use approx 2-5mb of ram
[14:21] <rbasak> Joe_knock: it might feel "bulky", but most server daemons aren't bulky at all in today's terms. Unless they're Java based or something.
[14:22] <patdk-wk_> mine is using 4mb ram, idle, and then about 2mb per email it's actively sending
[14:22] <Joe_knock> I can live with 2-5MB of RAM usage. How much would nullmailer use?
[14:30] <jamespage> zul, dh-python done
[14:30] <zul> jamespage:  cool thanks
[14:30] <zul> jamespage:  ill add libvirt-python to the ca today as well
[14:33] <jamespage> zul, +1
[14:33] <jamespage> (for addition of libvirt-python to CA)
[14:33] <jamespage> zul, oh - can i get a +1 for rabbitmq-server as well please?
[14:33] <jamespage> zul, the 3.1.x series has a load of improvements from a throughput perspective that we should be using
[14:33] <zul> jamespage:  +1
[14:34] <jamespage> and we can't backport them to the 2.7.x series on 12.04
[14:34] <jamespage> zul, why do we need the numactl stuff for CA?
[14:35] <zul> jamespage:  libvirt
[14:35] <jamespage> zul, ok
[14:40] <zul> jamespage:  +1 for libusbredirparser-dev (newer version required for qemu)
[14:41] <jamespage> zul,  +1
[15:13] <hallyn> ahs3: are you around?  there's a trivially mergeable libcap2 2.24 at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libcap-2.24.pkg/libcap2_2.24-1.dsc
[15:15] <hallyn> (i'll email the pkg maintainer first.  just letting you know i may be asking you about pushing it later :)
[15:24] <apw> jamespage, hey ... openvswitch ... the current dkms package isn't hacking it with 3.13, are we using any of its features in the mid-term or is the in kernel good enough
[15:24] <jamespage> apw, it has one feature don't have in kernel - I suspect the bump not to be to hard
[15:25] <apw> there was a f
[15:25] <apw> jamespage, there was a fairly big change in the id management in multicast bits
[15:25] <jamespage> apw, oh god
[15:29] <apw> jamespage, lots of changes to interaces, and worse to internal members the dkms package is poking.  might be easy, and they may have fixed it upstream i guess already, which is why i am here; as you did the last sync upstream
[15:31] <jamespage> apw, looking now
[15:32] <apw> jamespage, the 3.13 kernel is in the CKT PPA if you ned something to test against
[16:16] <smoser> rbasak, ping
[16:21] <rbasak> smoser: pong
[16:22] <smoser> rbasak, http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/cloud-tools-next_versions.html
[16:22] <smoser> could you look at uvtool there ?
[16:22] <rbasak> smoser: on my TODO
[16:23] <smoser> k
[16:23] <smoser> gracias
[16:23] <rbasak> smoser: is there any urgency here? I was going to look at it next week.
[16:23] <rbasak> It's straightforward - I was just bundling it with a pile of other uvtool stuff.
[16:41] <zul> jamespage:  im going to leave xen as it is in the CA since the newer version was a bump for an ocaml build in trusty
[19:17] <Joe_knock> Hello. How do I display the system information page again that shows up after you login?
[19:23] <Joe_knock> Doesn't matter, found it.
[19:26] <TJ-> Joe_knock: /var/run/motd, generated from the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/ by pam_motd.so at log-in
[19:26] <Joe_knock> TJ- I ran: landscape-sysinfo
[19:50] <derek_> Hi all
[19:51] <derek_> any one aware of the problem on 13.10 where the installer freezes at the language selection?
[19:51] <derek_> it seems to be a USB keyboard issue
[19:52] <derek_> but I cannot find a solution to this as I only have USB keyboards
[19:52] <Joe_knock> Does anyone use exim-4 here? I configured it and now I want to make it send automated emails from my application. How do I configure the email address?
[19:53] <zerick> automated you said ?
[19:54] <Joe_knock> I fowarded a mail to myself, so it seems that exim-4 attaches emails to users. I now need to create a user I suppose?
[19:54] <Joe_knock> zerick, the automation will occur from the application, I just need the email address to exist
[19:55] <sarnold> Joe_knock: check out the sendmail manpage; -f will set the envelope-from address
[19:56] <sarnold> Joe_knock: if you want to change the From: header instead, you just need to configure your application to write the correct thing in the header
[19:56] <Joe_knock> sarnold, so even though it will be sending from my server user account, I can disguise it as another name?
[19:57] <sarnold> Joe_knock: sure. just edit the From: line to say whatever you like.
[19:58] <Joe_knock> sarnold, your first suggestion (sendmail manpage; -f) deals with exim itself, whilst the second one (change From: header) should be done within my external webapp?
[19:59] <sarnold> Joe_knock: correct
[19:59] <sarnold> Joe_knock: though, the -f option to sendmail would also be something you would configure with the way your application calls sendmail when it wishes to send mail.
[20:00] <Joe_knock> sarnold wouldn't it be more risky to use the in-application method instead of just making a more direct change within exim itself?
[20:01] <sarnold> Joe_knock: exim may or may not have a setting for "every email from this host should be sent From_ <foo@example.com>" or similar for "From: " header..
[20:02] <Joe_knock> sarnold I am a subdomain with just one email address forwarding stuff.
[20:03] <sarnold> Joe_knock: yeah, but exim is a general-purpose mailer. it just might not have that feature. it's been 15 years since I last configured exim, I can't recall if it had that specifically :)
[20:04] <sarnold> of course people often complain that exim's configuration language is more a programming language and that everything is possible..
[20:04] <Joe_knock> sarnold: I used this guide to make it a send-only mailer: https://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin?format=print
[20:15] <toyotapie> Hello,
[20:15] <toyotapie> the command "time --quiet date" gives me an error "--quiet: command not found" but man pages said it should supress status reporting. Any ideas?
[20:16] <sarnold> toyotapie: 'time' is a funny thing; there is both /usr/bin/time and the shell built-in 'time' command. check the output of 'which time' and 'type time' to see the difference.
[20:16] <sarnold> toyotapie: you can probably get what you want by running /usr/bin/time --quiet date
[20:17] <toyotapie> sarnold, you are exactly right. Thanks :d
[20:21] <Joe_knock> sarnold, if I change the From: in the application, but that email address doesn't explicitly exist on my server, will emails send?
[20:22] <sarnold> Joe_knock: yes
[20:22] <Joe_knock> That is fascinating. Sounds like it works dynamically.
[20:24] <sarnold> Joe_knock: it's even less impressive than that. you just type whatever you want there. president@whitehouse.gov or take your pick. hehe.
[20:25] <Joe_knock> I always assumed you had to explicitly declare an email address in a mail server application (you can't do this dynamic stuff on CPanel).
[20:27] <sarnold> yeah, those have to aim for common cases and also what's easy to describe in a gui. :)
[20:29] <Joe_knock> Now I just need to test out these mailers within the application itself.
[20:43] <Joe_knock> sarnold thanks a million!!! it worked :D :D
[20:45] <sarnold> Joe_knock: nice :) have fun!
[21:05] <xibalba> is it possibly to find a file over 4 hours old ?
[21:05] <xibalba> i'm looking at the `find` man page but not seeing exactly what i need
[21:06] <patdk-wk_> define 4hours old?
[21:06] <patdk-wk_> find . -mtime 4
[21:06] <patdk-wk_> or did you mean, less than 4hours? find . -mtime -4
[21:07] <xibalba> i have a directly w/hourly backups
[21:07] <xibalba> if the file is over 4 hours old, i'd like to delete it
[21:07] <patdk-wk_> find . -mtime +4
[21:07] <patdk-wk_> find . -mtime +4 -delete
[21:07] <xibalba> i did that but didn't get what i expected
[21:07] <patdk-wk_> ctime maybe?
[21:07] <xibalba> k
[21:07] <patdk-wk_> creation time, vs modification time
[21:07] <xibalba> yea
[21:07] <xibalba> tried atime too
[21:08] <patdk-wk_> most people disable atime
[21:08] <patdk-wk_> atime = last time the file was read
[21:08] <xibalba> accessed time
[21:08] <patdk-wk_> ya, it's evil :)
[21:10] <xibalba> got this file
[21:10] <xibalba> -rw-r--r-- 1 dbbackups dbbackups 370576384 Jan  6 12:07
[21:11] <xibalba> current time is
[21:11] <xibalba> Mon Jan  6 14:11:03 MST 2014
[21:11] <xibalba> so i just find find to pick this up
[21:11] <xibalba> find . -mtime +1
[21:11] <sarnold> ctime != creation time
[21:11] <xibalba> 2nd file in there w/timestamp of  Jan  6 14:11
[21:13] <patdk-wk_> oh ya, change
[21:14] <patdk-wk_> still, normally works out to creation for my stuff
[21:14] <patdk-wk_> probably cause most of my stuff doesn't update that crap correctly :)
[21:17] <sarnold> what're you doing behind the back of the OS? :)