=== freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [01:05] hi. i have problems with getting phppgadmin to run on my ubuntu server. i have installed it without any problem but it looks like there is a problem with apache configuration. Everytime i try to call the url with /phppgadmin i get the error message: 404 Site not found. Can anybody help with debugging/solving this Problem? [04:01] is it possible that when i create a new user, it also creates a new file in the sites-available folder pointing to the users www folder? [04:23] MavKen: try it [04:35] surefire way to restart network services after altering the gateway in the /etc/networking/interfaces file. I am remoted in via ssh and need to restart services without rebooting the machine? [04:35] service networking restart ? [04:36] bueller? === Paulus68_1 is now known as Paulus68 [07:12] zul: let me know when your around === geser_ is now known as geser === olegb_ is now known as olegb === etzsch is now known as _e === _e is now known as m6 [09:16] morning === bitnumus_ is now known as bitnumus === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm === gary_poster|away is now known as gary_poster [14:07] Hello, can anyone recommend a useful outbound only mail server? [14:09] zul, btw I reworked your dep-8 tests for waitress into package build tests - hope that was OK with you :-) [14:09] jamespage: knock yourself out [14:09] zul, good-oh [14:09] jamespage: i had a look at mariadb its ftbfs in trusty right now (in -proposed) [14:10] zul, yeah - its needs an update for compat with bison >= 3 [14:10] otto is on it - a newer upstream release should do the ticket [14:10] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733002 [14:11] jamespage: yeah i applied that, buts its failing on the tests as well [14:11] zul, I'd probably just pump in the new upstream release to resolve [14:14] jamespage: okies [14:14] * zul almost totally slacked off during the christmas break [14:15] koolhead17: ping [14:16] is Postfix too bulky for outbound only tasks? [14:16] heh? [14:16] outbound only? [14:16] there has to be something inbound, for postfix to make it go outbound [14:17] Joe_knock, I use postfix for outbound only [14:17] works OK [14:17] I've also used exim in the past [14:17] patdk-wk_: I run a webapp that is suppose to automatically send out updates, therefore I need an outbound-only mail server. On ubuntuforums.org they recommend alternatives [14:18] Joe_knock: I use msmtp, which isn't even really an MTA, but makes /usr/sbin/sendmail work. Also look into nullmailer. [14:18] rbasak those are the exact solutions I saw here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046275 [14:18] jamespage: can you take care of the dh-python backport, its ftbfs im not exactly 100% sure what you did ill take care of the rest [14:18] zul, yeah - sure [14:18] zul, the branch is under ~ubuntu-cloud-archive - I'll remerge [14:18] jamespage: thanks [14:19] Joe_knock: for a webapp I'd avoid msmtp. It blocks (by design) during the SMTP transaction as it has no queue. For a webapp, you'll want an "immediate" queued send, so nullmailer or postfix. [14:20] rbasak is postfix really as 'bulky' as the thread says? I'm running on 1GB memory, so if it's too big, I will consider something like nullmailer instead [14:21] postfix should use approx 2-5mb of ram [14:21] Joe_knock: it might feel "bulky", but most server daemons aren't bulky at all in today's terms. Unless they're Java based or something. [14:22] mine is using 4mb ram, idle, and then about 2mb per email it's actively sending [14:22] I can live with 2-5MB of RAM usage. How much would nullmailer use? [14:30] zul, dh-python done [14:30] jamespage: cool thanks [14:30] jamespage: ill add libvirt-python to the ca today as well [14:33] zul, +1 [14:33] (for addition of libvirt-python to CA) [14:33] zul, oh - can i get a +1 for rabbitmq-server as well please? [14:33] zul, the 3.1.x series has a load of improvements from a throughput perspective that we should be using [14:33] jamespage: +1 [14:34] and we can't backport them to the 2.7.x series on 12.04 [14:34] zul, why do we need the numactl stuff for CA? [14:35] jamespage: libvirt [14:35] zul, ok [14:40] jamespage: +1 for libusbredirparser-dev (newer version required for qemu) [14:41] zul, +1 [15:13] ahs3: are you around? there's a trivially mergeable libcap2 2.24 at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libcap-2.24.pkg/libcap2_2.24-1.dsc [15:15] (i'll email the pkg maintainer first. just letting you know i may be asking you about pushing it later :) [15:24] jamespage, hey ... openvswitch ... the current dkms package isn't hacking it with 3.13, are we using any of its features in the mid-term or is the in kernel good enough [15:24] apw, it has one feature don't have in kernel - I suspect the bump not to be to hard [15:25] there was a f [15:25] jamespage, there was a fairly big change in the id management in multicast bits [15:25] apw, oh god [15:29] jamespage, lots of changes to interaces, and worse to internal members the dkms package is poking. might be easy, and they may have fixed it upstream i guess already, which is why i am here; as you did the last sync upstream [15:31] apw, looking now [15:32] jamespage, the 3.13 kernel is in the CKT PPA if you ned something to test against [16:16] rbasak, ping [16:21] smoser: pong [16:22] rbasak, http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/cloud-tools-next_versions.html [16:22] could you look at uvtool there ? [16:22] smoser: on my TODO [16:23] k [16:23] gracias [16:23] smoser: is there any urgency here? I was going to look at it next week. [16:23] It's straightforward - I was just bundling it with a pile of other uvtool stuff. === sarnold_ is now known as sarnold [16:41] jamespage: im going to leave xen as it is in the CA since the newer version was a bump for an ocaml build in trusty === marcoceppi_ is now known as marcoceppi [19:17] Hello. How do I display the system information page again that shows up after you login? [19:23] Doesn't matter, found it. [19:26] Joe_knock: /var/run/motd, generated from the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/ by pam_motd.so at log-in [19:26] TJ- I ran: landscape-sysinfo === jaywink_ is now known as jaywink [19:50] Hi all [19:51] any one aware of the problem on 13.10 where the installer freezes at the language selection? [19:51] it seems to be a USB keyboard issue [19:52] but I cannot find a solution to this as I only have USB keyboards [19:52] Does anyone use exim-4 here? I configured it and now I want to make it send automated emails from my application. How do I configure the email address? [19:53] automated you said ? [19:54] I fowarded a mail to myself, so it seems that exim-4 attaches emails to users. I now need to create a user I suppose? [19:54] zerick, the automation will occur from the application, I just need the email address to exist [19:55] Joe_knock: check out the sendmail manpage; -f will set the envelope-from address [19:56] Joe_knock: if you want to change the From: header instead, you just need to configure your application to write the correct thing in the header [19:56] sarnold, so even though it will be sending from my server user account, I can disguise it as another name? [19:57] Joe_knock: sure. just edit the From: line to say whatever you like. [19:58] sarnold, your first suggestion (sendmail manpage; -f) deals with exim itself, whilst the second one (change From: header) should be done within my external webapp? [19:59] Joe_knock: correct [19:59] Joe_knock: though, the -f option to sendmail would also be something you would configure with the way your application calls sendmail when it wishes to send mail. [20:00] sarnold wouldn't it be more risky to use the in-application method instead of just making a more direct change within exim itself? [20:01] Joe_knock: exim may or may not have a setting for "every email from this host should be sent From_ " or similar for "From: " header.. [20:02] sarnold I am a subdomain with just one email address forwarding stuff. [20:03] Joe_knock: yeah, but exim is a general-purpose mailer. it just might not have that feature. it's been 15 years since I last configured exim, I can't recall if it had that specifically :) [20:04] of course people often complain that exim's configuration language is more a programming language and that everything is possible.. [20:04] sarnold: I used this guide to make it a send-only mailer: https://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin?format=print === keee is now known as w0rmie [20:15] Hello, [20:15] the command "time --quiet date" gives me an error "--quiet: command not found" but man pages said it should supress status reporting. Any ideas? [20:16] toyotapie: 'time' is a funny thing; there is both /usr/bin/time and the shell built-in 'time' command. check the output of 'which time' and 'type time' to see the difference. [20:16] toyotapie: you can probably get what you want by running /usr/bin/time --quiet date [20:17] sarnold, you are exactly right. Thanks :d [20:21] sarnold, if I change the From: in the application, but that email address doesn't explicitly exist on my server, will emails send? [20:22] Joe_knock: yes [20:22] That is fascinating. Sounds like it works dynamically. [20:24] Joe_knock: it's even less impressive than that. you just type whatever you want there. president@whitehouse.gov or take your pick. hehe. [20:25] I always assumed you had to explicitly declare an email address in a mail server application (you can't do this dynamic stuff on CPanel). [20:27] yeah, those have to aim for common cases and also what's easy to describe in a gui. :) === wendar_ is now known as wendar [20:29] Now I just need to test out these mailers within the application itself. [20:43] sarnold thanks a million!!! it worked :D :D [20:45] Joe_knock: nice :) have fun! [21:05] is it possibly to find a file over 4 hours old ? [21:05] i'm looking at the `find` man page but not seeing exactly what i need [21:06] define 4hours old? [21:06] find . -mtime 4 [21:06] or did you mean, less than 4hours? find . -mtime -4 [21:07] i have a directly w/hourly backups [21:07] if the file is over 4 hours old, i'd like to delete it [21:07] find . -mtime +4 [21:07] find . -mtime +4 -delete [21:07] i did that but didn't get what i expected [21:07] ctime maybe? [21:07] k [21:07] creation time, vs modification time [21:07] yea [21:07] tried atime too [21:08] most people disable atime [21:08] atime = last time the file was read [21:08] accessed time [21:08] ya, it's evil :) [21:10] got this file [21:10] -rw-r--r-- 1 dbbackups dbbackups 370576384 Jan 6 12:07 [21:11] current time is [21:11] Mon Jan 6 14:11:03 MST 2014 [21:11] so i just find find to pick this up [21:11] find . -mtime +1 [21:11] ctime != creation time [21:11] 2nd file in there w/timestamp of Jan 6 14:11 [21:13] oh ya, change [21:14] still, normally works out to creation for my stuff [21:14] probably cause most of my stuff doesn't update that crap correctly :) [21:17] what're you doing behind the back of the OS? :) === gary_poster is now known as gary_poster|away