[00:52] <snap-l> brousch7: Exactly
[01:40] <rick_h_> and the piles at the end of my driveway are chest-high
[01:40] <rick_h_> done for tonight
[01:45] <gamerchick02> rick_h_ get some rest.
[02:19] <snap-l> rick_h_: Dear God that's a lot of snow
[02:21] <waldo323> is there a meeting tonight?
[02:21] <waldo323> or did i miss it?
[02:29] <rick_h_> waldo323: no mtg tonight
[02:29] <waldo323> ok thanks
[02:34] <rick_h_> heh, love this range 36 hour total snowfall accumulations from Saturday evening through early Monday morning will range from 8 to 16 inches
[11:29] <rick_h_> morning
[11:29] <rick_h_> and no, not going with good
[12:39] <_stink_> hah
[12:46] <_stink_> wife has to work, so we already dug out
[12:52] <brousch> It only took 50 minutes to clean off my cars, drive 4 miles to daycare, and then 2 miles to work.
[13:29] <rick_h_> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7460/11797224845_dbb8682592_h.jpg
[13:29] <rick_h_> only took me 2 hours more clearing since 9pm last night
[13:29] <rick_h_> wheeee
[13:34] <brousch> I think you have more than we do
[13:35] <brousch> You are double-wide though
[13:36] <rick_h_> so the spotters had 13" last night before midnight and it was still coming down
[13:37] <brousch> The worst part is down by the street where I have to throw snow on piles higher than my head
[13:37] <rick_h_> yep, same here
[13:37] <rick_h_> and I'm on the outside of a curve in the street
[13:37] <rick_h_> so all the slush gets pushed to my side of the road
[13:37] <rick_h_> it's ice balls down there at the end
[13:38] <rick_h_> but I give up down there, my cars can get through it
[13:38] <brousch> Yeah. As long as the cars can get through, fuckit
[13:38] <brousch> We both got new tires this year
[13:38] <rick_h_> I've done enough that the UPS man can't sue me if he falls and breaks his neck today
[13:39] <brousch> Keep the mailbox clean
[13:39] <rick_h_> yea, tried my best there :/
[13:39] <rick_h_> keep the junk mail though, I don't care
[13:40] <brousch> I told George I killed 2 frost giants last night with my mighty shovel Shjonir. I had him convinces for a while
[13:40] <rick_h_> lol
[13:40] <brousch> One pile kind of looks like a giant's body
[14:07] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:07] <snap-l> This is way too much snow. I'd like to return it with a 15% restocking fee
[14:08] <brousch> Shipping is going to kill you
[14:08] <snap-l> I'll pay for pickup. :)
[14:09] <brousch> I recommend you deal with it by consuming as much as possible and then urinating on the rest
[14:09] <_stink_> in that order?
[14:09] <snap-l> brousch: I am interested in your product and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
[14:10] <brousch> _stink_: For you, do it in the opposite order :P
[14:11] <_stink_> mmm
[14:11] <brousch> The yellow is lemon. You will like it
[14:12] <snap-l> With just a hint of iron
[14:12] <jcastro> rick_h_, I won't be leaving my house for like 4 days
[14:12] <jcastro> what you have shoveled is what I had before I went to bed
[14:12] <jcastro> now ... I am buried again
[14:12] <rick_h_> jcastro: hah, going to take the wife to work in a bit and run by starbucks
[14:13] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, I'm not getting crap done today
[14:13] <rick_h_> jcastro: and I've got a snow thrower on my amz wishlist and trying hard to avoid hitting 'buy'
[14:13] <jcastro> I'm going to call someone I think
[14:13] <jcastro> but even then, have to wait for the sub to get plowed
[14:13] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, or walk the neighborhood like a girl scout with cookies
[14:13] <snap-l> OK there's more snow coming down
[14:14] <snap-l> I think I'm starting to understand The Shining
[14:14] <rick_h_> is there more?
[14:14] <snap-l> and the folks in The American House were singing "Let It Snow" on Saturday
[14:14] <snap-l> I think they were secretly singing an incantation.
[14:14] <jcastro> hard to tell if it'
[14:14] <rick_h_> Partly cloudy skies this morning will become overcast during the afternoon. Slight chance of a shower late. High 44F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph.
[14:14] <rick_h_> portland dammit
[14:14] <jcastro> s still coming down or if it's just the wind
[14:15] <brousch> rick_h_: Please buy the snowthrower. By the time it arrives snow will be done for the season, thanks to your purchase
[14:15] <rick_h_> yea, supposed to get 25mph winds today
[14:15] <snap-l> jcastro: This is looking fresh
[14:15] <snap-l> or more a mixture of blowing and fresh snow.
[14:15] <rick_h_> with wind chills of below any witches body part
[14:15] <snap-l> I'm going to have to go to the garage to get a shovel to shovel out our side porch so I can get to the real shovel.
[14:16] <rick_h_> lol
[14:16] <brousch> snap-l: Pro-tip: Stick your shovel in the snow bank closest to the door
[14:16] <rick_h_> yea, I've left ours on the front porch on a mat
[14:16] <rick_h_> it leaves a rust mark otherwise
[14:16] <rick_h_> just walk out the front door and start there
[14:17] <snap-l> brousch: Yeah, I have ours in the side porch for just such occasions.
[14:17] <snap-l> Worst case I crawl through the window.
[14:18] <snap-l> Drives JoDee nuts when I do that but since she suggested it this morning...
[14:18] <brousch> Tell her to take care of the shoveling if she doesn't like it :P
[14:18] <snap-l> hah
[14:18] <rick_h_> yea, erica came out this morning "what are you doing out here? You've been out here for two hours"
[14:18] <snap-l> brousch: I'd rather shovel the snow, not have to sleep in it
[14:19] <rick_h_> It took some restaraint to not throw her in a pile and tell her to swim out/home
[14:19] <jcastro> I can't believe rick's driveway is so clean
[14:19] <snap-l> rick_h_: She was worried.
[14:19] <brousch> My wife shoveled once yesterday
[14:19] <jcastro> there's no way I could do that with only one person
[14:19] <jjesse> i shoveled 3 times yesterday
[14:19] <jjesse> and then once this morning
[14:19] <snap-l> jcastro: Ask rick_h_ about his secret weapon
[14:19] <rick_h_> :P
[14:20] <jcastro> "I have a heated driveway"
[14:20] <jjesse> but i live at the top of a hill so everything blows my way
[14:20] <brousch> jjesse: I skipped this morning and just drove over the fresh 3"
[14:20] <snap-l> Hey, I was 10 seconds away from ordering one
[14:20] <snap-l> until I realized it wouldn't show up until Thursday.
[14:20] <rick_h_> snap-l: cheaper than the thrower I've got in my basket
[14:20] <rick_h_> snap-l: snow in the 10 day forecast
[14:21] <snap-l> My UPS driver will love me for this.
[14:21] <brousch> I want a snow roomba. It just wanders the driveway melting the snow away
[14:21] <snap-l> Ordered.
[14:21] <rick_h_> I amazoned a lawn mower, http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/11738876955/, and more
[14:21] <snap-l> Got the 24" rather than the 30".
[14:21] <jcastro> CES is going to be awesome today
[14:22] <rick_h_> my ups man never knows if it's going to be a little thing or two person dolly load
[14:22] <snap-l> The 30" is 79.99. 24" is 37.99
[14:22] <jcastro> hmm, roku is announcing a TV
[14:22] <snap-l> jcastro: I'd be surprised if it ships.
[14:22] <jcastro> me too
[14:22] <rick_h_> snap-l: coolio
[14:23]  * snap-l wonders if I should pay extra for shipping it sooner. :)
[14:23] <snap-l> hah. It won't let me next-day air it. :)
[14:24] <snap-l> Maybe I could have it gift wrapped
[14:24] <snap-l> Nope.
[14:24] <snap-l> Damn.
[14:28] <snap-l> Heh, apparently I'm playing snap-l today.
[14:35] <jjesse> roku is announing partnering with 2 tv companie
[14:36] <jjesse> article on the verge or something
[14:36] <jjesse> instead of the tv companies coming up with an app store or building an os it just leverages roku
[14:44] <brousch> http://www.accuweather.com/en/aq/amundsen-scott-south-pole-station/2258520/weather-forecast/2258520 vs http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=41.878113,-87.629799
[14:45] <jjesse> yeah saw it was warmer at the south pole than at o'hare airport
[14:47] <brousch> That's hilarious
[15:34] <rick_h_> oh the possiblities! http://r.bmark.us/u/7c7f987750597a
[15:35] <jrwren> ugh.
[15:35] <jrwren> android sucks
[15:35] <brousch> Some cars already run Linux
[15:35] <rick_h_> shove off
[15:35] <rick_h_> auto company platforms all suck
[15:35] <jrwren> anything but android.
[15:35] <jrwren> i'm a member of the ABA society.
[15:35] <rick_h_> they need to quit trying to run their own things so much and get on board with a much better experience
[15:36] <jrwren> i agree.
[15:36] <rick_h_> the GM stuff is awful, the stuff in my VW has so many horrible small issues/bugs it drives me bonkers
[15:36] <jrwren> rick_h_: i saw some drivers yesterday just driving around for fun, drifting.
[15:36] <rick_h_> jrwren: my kin :)
[15:36] <jrwren> yup,made me think of you.
[15:37] <brousch> Android is the bizomb
[15:37] <jrwren> it was a WRX, whihc was awesome, but it was following a miata!
[15:37] <jrwren> brousch: ist the bizom old right
[15:37] <rick_h_> yea, the main roads aren't that bad tbh
[15:37] <jrwren> i've not been out since friday
[15:37] <rick_h_> jrwren: now if you saw that down any of the dirt roads in the area :)
[15:37] <rick_h_> that's where the fun it, where the ruts are as deep as your tires
[15:38] <jrwren> yes, they were
[15:39] <jrwren> there is a dirt road few hundred feet from my house
[15:39] <jrwren> so they were hitting that and circling back to our circle
[15:39] <rick_h_> lol
[15:40] <greg-g> nice
[15:40] <greg-g> Midori (my subaru) yerns for the opportunity
[15:42] <greg-g> even when going to Tahoe, the most I can do is hope for a bunch of snow on the drive up through the mountains (which is more tense than fun) 'cuz once you're in Tahoe, the roads are manicured for all the rich people's lexuses
[16:09] <rick_h_> cmaloney: http://fitbit.cmail2.com/t/ViewEmail/r/2BBBCA7AF26761722540EF23F30FEDED/44F2A453140EAD9BB3138EAD4DECE712
[16:17] <brousch> I kind of want this http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/hp-slate-21-pro/4505-3118_7-35833756.html
[16:44] <rick_h_> hah, ok I want one. I used to have a stack of these things http://r.bmark.us/u/0c9ed98ffc97fb
[16:44] <rick_h_> feeling router nostalgia
[16:47] <brousch> I have 2 of those still in service at work
[16:48] <brousch> wrt54g
[16:48] <brousch> wait, one of them is the wap version
[16:49] <brousch> rick_h_: I'll take 4 please
[16:51] <widox> rick_h_: ah yes, I've been waiting for a smart crockpot too!
[16:51] <widox> "the first smartphone controllable slow cooker."
[16:51] <widox> haha
[16:52] <rick_h_> widox: yea, I'm not sold on those thing
[16:52] <rick_h_> not until you're not vendor locked into things
[16:53] <rick_h_> jcastro: did you get someone out to plow that pic on G+?
[16:53] <brousch> widox: That sounds a lot more useful than a toaster or fridge
[16:54] <jcastro> rick_h_, guys driving in the neighborhood
[16:54] <jcastro> jill flagged them down
[16:54] <rick_h_> jcastro: nice
[16:54] <rick_h_> jcastro: you win then. I'd have paid $$ to have it done if it was available
[16:55] <jcastro> $60 is the going rate it seems
[16:55] <jcastro> I don'
[16:55] <jcastro> t mind shovelling
[16:55] <rick_h_> I'm having a hard time keeping my eyes open...nap time
[16:55] <jcastro> but it's too much, I can keep this clean I hope
[16:55] <rick_h_> I don't either, but after a foot...I'm done
[16:55] <rick_h_> now the wind is blowing sideways and it's crazy out there
[16:55] <brousch> You boys need to snow blower-up!
[16:55] <greg-g> the only thing that'll get me to go to g+ directly are snow/stuck cars/etc pictures :)
[16:56] <rick_h_> brousch: don't tempt me today
[16:56] <rick_h_> I just need s nap and I'll get over it, but yesterday/today has been so close to hitting the buy button
[16:56] <greg-g> snowblower is only really needed west of the big lake
[16:56] <rick_h_> I mean, I've got probably 10hrs of shoveling in this weekend
[16:57] <greg-g> I mean, west of the lake, and then for 50 miles east
[16:57] <rick_h_> would have paid for itself in one day :/
[16:58] <rick_h_> jcastro: looks like you guys got about 6-8" ish?
[16:58] <rick_h_> or maybe the pic is deceptive
[16:58] <brousch> greg-g: The funny thing about this current storm system is it's coming East to West, so rick_h_ gets all of my lake effect snow
[16:59] <rick_h_> hah
[16:59] <rick_h_> gee thanks
[16:59] <rick_h_> it's great driving
[16:59] <rick_h_> I've had some good fun for sure
[16:59] <brousch> Chicago is getting pounded too
[16:59] <rick_h_> so so so glad I went through the pita to get the new wheels/snow tires
[16:59] <brousch> Yes. New tires made a huge difference this year
[17:00] <rick_h_> and the touareg weight just go through stuff
[17:00] <jcastro> rick_h_, they're saying a foot
[17:00] <jcastro> but I haven't been out
[17:00] <rick_h_> the subaru floats a lot more and is more fun
[17:00] <rick_h_> but the touareg takes it like it's a job, 'jfdi' style
[17:01] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, looking like we got around 15, AA around 12, south down royal oak way seems more 7ish
[17:01] <greg-g> yeah, the float of the subaru is fun, but not always smart :)
[17:01] <rick_h_> up by flint got 17 :/
[17:02] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, but that's the diff between driving int he snow for fun or for getting somewhere
[17:02]  * greg-g nods
[17:02] <jcastro> the main streets look fine
[17:02] <jcastro> subdivision is totally not plowed though
[17:03] <jcastro> I'll go out for lunch though, ran out of food
[17:03] <jcastro> shitty planning
[17:03] <greg-g> hah
[17:03] <jcastro> but luckily my car was made in sweden, it dominates in the snow
[17:04] <cmaloney> I'd love to know how my car window was down in the Caliber
[17:04] <cmaloney> managed to get some snow in it
[17:04] <rick_h_> cmaloney: :/
[17:07] <brousch> cmaloney: A hobo slept in it last night
[17:07] <brousch> Welcome to Detroit
[17:08] <greg-g> jcastro: what do you drive?
[17:08] <jcastro> I have a volvo s60
[17:09] <jcastro> AWD
[17:09] <greg-g> ahh, yeah, that'll float just like the outback
[17:11] <cmaloney> brousch: har har
[17:11] <cmaloney> though we did hear something rustling around last night
[17:11] <rick_h_> greg-g: +1
[17:11] <rick_h_> but it's fun :)
[17:11] <greg-g> def
[17:12] <greg-g> I almost got stuck with my outback in MPLS one winter when there was over a foot of snow. I was going through the back parts of the city (where the abandoned grain elevators are, for instance), and there was a drift I kinda accidentally paused over/in. Just a bit of jockying and it was free.
[17:13] <greg-g> the best part was parking on the street. I see all these people desparately trying to dig out their cars, I come out of the house, shovel out just enough to open the door (the plow had gone by), and let the car warm up, then SMASH, out I go. :)
[17:14] <brousch> My wife's subarus have never gotten stuck, but my minivan has
[17:15] <greg-g> your wife has more than one car?
[17:15] <rick_h_> lol
[17:15] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, never stop that's the key
[17:17] <brousch> greg-g: She has had 2 subaru foresters
[17:17] <rick_h_> outback or bust!
[17:17] <rick_h_> :)
[17:17] <brousch> I like the outback better, but it's her car
[17:17] <brousch> smoother ride
[17:17] <rick_h_> greg-g: so I was talking with my wife about when we get her a new car we should get a family one that we both use more often and then maybe a truck we drive only when we have to
[17:18] <greg-g> yes
[17:18] <rick_h_> greg-g: and her first thing was "Is the outback a family car? I loved how I could just toss my skis in it and go"
[17:18] <greg-g> +1000
[17:18] <rick_h_> she's so sold, she laughs at how she thought I might be strange when we first met driving one
[17:18] <rick_h_> now that she drives it full time she's in love :)
[17:18] <greg-g> I *really* want to find an older Ford truck somewhere, and then find it's mate (exact same model/year) a bit later for parts. Oh, and some land to put them on :)
[17:18] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, the outback is put together better. My last one I thought I wanted the forrester as it 'feels' bigger
[17:19] <rick_h_> quieter, smoother ride, much nicer imo
[17:19] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, I want something to tow an airstream with
[17:19] <rick_h_> greg-g: so thinking a diesel f250, not a daily driver though
[17:19] <rick_h_> so we'd need to 'share' the family-mobile
[17:19]  * greg-g nods
[17:20] <rick_h_> and since I work from home/etc it's not a big deal. the whole his/her car thing kind of sucks
[17:20] <greg-g> I'd be fine with an older F150, honestly. The new ones are too purty to beat up.
[17:20] <rick_h_> hah
[17:20] <rick_h_> I like my in-car electronics
[17:20] <greg-g> heh, yeah, I'm ok with a tape deck
[17:21] <rick_h_> though I could get a after market BT enabled head unit and be fine
[17:21]  * greg-g was listening to his first ever purchased tape in the car yesterday
[17:21] <brousch> greg-g: Let the two old fords sit in afield and rust together, just like every farm from your childhood?
[17:21] <rick_h_> that's the only thing I need
[17:21] <greg-g> brousch: that's the long term goal, but the mid term is to use them :)
[17:21] <rick_h_> hah
[17:22] <rick_h_> the boy is going to get caught 'driving' the old truck on blocks in the field pretending it's a race car
[17:23] <greg-g> 'zactly!
[17:23] <rick_h_> I gotcha greg-g :)
[17:24] <greg-g> life goal #51292
[17:24] <brousch> It will be all electric and self-driving by then
[17:24] <greg-g> and expensive
[17:25] <greg-g> wth did my phone just reboot
[17:26] <brousch> NSA pushed some spyware bug fixes
[17:27] <greg-g> "Fixes Bug#224919: Greg's voice was a little garbeled when he was talking to his wife about..."
[17:27]  * rick_h_ feels so strange doing a 'pip install azure'
[17:28] <rick_h_> lol at the windows terminal screenshots http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/develop/python/common-tasks/install-python/
[17:28] <rick_h_> s/windows terminal/putty
[17:54] <gamerchick02> did anyone go into work today?
[17:54]  * greg-g raises hand
[17:54] <rick_h_> working here :)
[17:54] <greg-g> but I live in the bay area :)
[17:55] <rick_h_> long walk to the basement, it's cold down here
[17:55] <gamerchick02> wait. you're not in Michigan with a 4 billion tons of white bullshit
[17:55] <gamerchick02> do you have snowshoes, rick_h_
[17:55] <gamerchick02> :-P
[17:55] <brousch> I went to work
[17:55] <gamerchick02> i'm not sure i can get out of my complex right now
[17:56] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: no, but I saw a ladie cross country ski'ing through the neighborhood yesterday
[17:56] <rick_h_> was a funny sight
[17:56] <gamerchick02> that... is pretty dang smart actually
[17:57] <gamerchick02> i wonder if i could snowshoe down Squirrel to get to Chrysler? :-P
[17:58] <greg-g> Carrie (wife) would going xc skiing the night of a big storm on the sidewalks in Ann Arbor, no one had shoveled yet so it was perfect
[17:58] <greg-g> (I may have already said that like 3 times in this channel, sorry)
[17:58] <greg-g> I'm just a bot, really
[17:58] <gamerchick02> lol
[17:58] <gamerchick02> i didn't notice, greg-g so it's new to me
[17:58] <greg-g> or a dad that tells the same stories all the time
[17:59] <brousch> greg-g: But you have all of wikipedia from which to draw your responses, which makes you very believable
[17:59] <gamerchick02> that's perfectly fine.
[17:59] <rick_h_> greg-g: I'm with you there. I've got my bank of stories and everyone just has to deal with them
[18:00] <gamerchick02> hah
[18:00] <greg-g> :)
[18:01] <gamerchick02> it's like you have a backpack full of stories and you just pull one out that's appropriate to the circumstances.
[18:01] <greg-g> indeed, makes small talk easier
[18:01] <gamerchick02> yes
[18:01] <cmaloney> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/linksys-resurrects-classic-blue-router-with-open-source-and-300-price/
[18:01] <cmaloney> Love that Belkin is releasing an OSS router
[18:02] <cmaloney> but typical of Belkin it's about double what I'd pay for one.
[18:02] <gamerchick02> holy bloody hell why $300?
[18:02] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: Because it's Belkin. :)
[18:02] <rick_h_> cisco
[18:02] <rick_h_> linksys
[18:02] <rick_h_> or did belkin buy linksys from cisco?
[18:02] <cmaloney> Belkin bought Linksys from Cicso
[18:03] <gamerchick02> who knows but $300 is a lot of money to pay for a router.
[18:03] <rick_h_> gotcha
[18:03] <gamerchick02> that's approaching PS4 prices.
[18:03] <gamerchick02> :-P
[18:03] <cmaloney> Pretty much
[18:03] <brousch> That's less than $100/antenna
[18:04] <gamerchick02> i have a flat black one from linksys that i think i paid $660 for
[18:04] <gamerchick02> $60
[18:04] <gamerchick02> not $660. dangit i think my hands are cold.
[18:04] <cmaloney> Honestly if I get back into the router market this is going to be a serious contender
[18:04] <cmaloney> esp. if it supports Tomato. :)
[18:05] <gamerchick02> my pizza supports tomato. :-P
[18:05] <jrwren> openwrt is looking very good these days.
[18:05] <rick_h_> says shipping openwrt support ootb
[18:05] <cmaloney> Yeah
[18:05] <jrwren> but I only say that because 30c3 presentation was so good
[18:05] <cmaloney> jrwren: I flash all of my routers with stuff I get from third parties online
[18:05] <gamerchick02> our first router ran tomato. on an old computer that my brother set up
[18:05] <cmaloney> because sadly I trust them more than I trust the manufacturers
[18:06] <gamerchick02> it was my old computer. it is in computer heaven now.
[18:06] <cmaloney> (although telling me to go to 4shared for a router image is a bit hard to swallow. :) )
[18:06] <gamerchick02> i don't think i've don anything for the linksys except put passwords on it and do a minor amount of fiddling.
[18:06] <gamerchick02> *shrug*
[18:06] <cmaloney> http://www.myopenrouter.com/download/list?sort=date&cat=75
[18:06] <greg-g> oh my god forums are not a place to do software releases
[18:06] <cmaloney> greg-g: That drives me insane
[18:07] <gamerchick02> hah
[18:07] <cmaloney> Squeezebox shit is all in Forum posts
[18:07] <greg-g> so much hate
[18:07] <brousch> Android
[18:07] <greg-g> so much
[18:07] <cmaloney> 100 pages later you get the updated release.
[18:07] <greg-g> them too
[18:07] <greg-g> github or sourceforge, do you speak it?!
[18:08] <brousch> SF, so they can bundle an ad service with my ROM?
[18:08] <cmaloney> I don't even care if you do all of your development discussion in a forum; at least have a page where I can find the latest release without having to go through a thread where you released .09beta.
[18:09] <cmaloney> Seriously that's baby-punching time
[18:09] <greg-g> brousch: touche
[18:09] <gamerchick02> ouch
[18:10] <jrwren> cmaloney: me too, not just trust of privacy, but also trust of quality
[18:12] <gamerchick02> that awkward moment  you look for the new music you downloaded but... you forgot to extract the zips and put the folders in your music directory. ooops
[18:12] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: So, yesterday.
[18:13] <gamerchick02> hah. today actually for me
[18:24] <jrwren> i usually don't look for the music, then find the zips, weeks, months, or years later,then finally listen
[18:25] <gamerchick02> LOL
[18:26] <gamerchick02> i downloaded yesterday after finding over holiday break and am listening today
[18:26] <cmaloney> My problem is I'll download a crap-ton of music for OMC and then not use all of it for a few episodes
[18:27] <cmaloney> and then it'll sit in my collection until I run into it again
[18:27] <cmaloney> oney Seriously that's baby-punching time                │ _stink_
[18:28] <cmaloney> 13:09:blerch. One sec.
[18:28] <cmaloney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6704606/
[18:28] <cmaloney> That's my Squeezebox statistics from this morning
[18:28] <cmaloney> The genres is off so ignore that
[18:28] <gamerchick02> wow
[18:29] <gamerchick02> 11924 songs for me
[18:29] <cmaloney> That's all of my music on my machine. :)
[18:29] <gamerchick02> just a quick look in banshee
[18:31] <greg-g> I'm sorry, iphone users deserve to have their week ruined if this is all it takes: https://twitter.com/MattRichenburg/status/419565002052222977
[18:32] <gamerchick02> WTF is he talking about?
[18:32] <gamerchick02> a spacing issue? for realsies?
[18:32] <cmaloney> OMC library: 6,861 songs
[18:33] <brousch> Inexcusable. Someone will be fired for that.
[18:33] <gamerchick02> wow
[18:33] <cmaloney> I think someone is playing.
[18:36] <greg-g> http://community.websense.com/blogs/securitylabs/archive/2013/12/29/dr-watson.aspx
[18:37] <cmaloney> Color me surprised.
[18:37] <cmaloney> Doctor Watson probably still groks Windows 98 without too much trouble. ;)
[18:40] <jjesse> yeah saw that before wasn't surprised either
[18:40] <greg-g> lack of surprise != not bad
[18:41] <greg-g> I think the "snowden stuff" (for lack of a better word) is putting everyone in the "not surprised anymore" apathy camp
[18:41] <greg-g> (not saying you two are)
[18:50] <jrwren> 22285 songs for me :)
[18:50] <gamerchick02> we all have a lot of music
[18:51] <jjesse> well i always figured it was happening and we were just bein lied to
[18:51] <jjesse> maybe its the pessimit in me
[18:55] <jrwren> i always knew.
[18:55] <greg-g> so we're all ok with it?
[18:55] <jrwren> its sending at least stack traces and may be heap dumps, so if it was in teh processes memory, it was getting sent.
[18:56] <jrwren> it depends on the app if i'm ok with it.
[18:56] <jjesse> well not really ok with it
[18:56] <jrwren> sadly, i can't control that feature on an app by app basis.
[18:56] <greg-g> jrwren: for the proverbial "mom" situation?
[18:56]  * greg-g nods
[18:56] <greg-g> so, no
[18:56] <jjesse> also did you see what is going on w/ the logs in the evernote app for Mac? storing everything in clear text or whatever i nthe log
[18:56] <greg-g> step 1: inform
[18:56] <greg-g> step 2: do something
[18:56] <jjesse> http://jasonkincaid.net/2014/01/evernote-the-bug-ridden-elephant/
[18:57] <greg-g> hah
[18:57] <jjesse> so when you open up a support ticket they ask for your logs
[18:57] <jjesse> which contain your note
[18:57] <greg-g> "convenient"
[18:58] <rick_h_> bah, "live videos are not supported by chromecast"
[18:58] <rick_h_> punks
[19:03] <rick_h_> and youtube fail
[19:03] <jrwren> for comparison, i don't think you can facetime with appletv
[19:04] <rick_h_> curse you technology
[19:08] <brousch> A guy asked me how to forward a few photos from his iphone to email. I could not figure out how to do it. iphone email has no button or menu or anything to attach a file.
[19:10] <rick_h_> ooooh, pebble steel! take my $$
[19:13] <jrwren> brousch: you actually CANT!!!
[19:13] <brousch> How uuseful
[19:13] <jrwren> brousch: you have to enter the photo app, pick the photos and share via email
[19:13] <jrwren> you cna't do it from teh email app.
[19:13] <jrwren> I know, its TERRIBLE!!!
[19:13] <jrwren> one of my iOS hate peeves
[19:14] <brousch> The peeze I always run into on iOS is the keyboard not changing for capital or lower case letters. I am typing a name. Is the letter I type upper case or lower case? I have no idea until I type it
[19:15] <brousch> And Apple doesn't let you install a better keyboard?
[19:15] <jrwren> the shift key highlights.
[19:15] <jrwren> i got used to that in minutes.
[19:15] <jrwren> you would too :p
[19:16] <brousch> The shift was not highlighted, and it typed an upper case letter
[19:16] <jrwren> weird
[19:16] <brousch> Next letter, shift was not highlighted, it typed a lower case letter
[19:16] <brousch> First letter of last name
[19:17] <jrwren> start of new sentence?
[19:17] <brousch> Anyways. Every time I use an idevice I go away enraged
[19:24] <jjesse> look the part about the photos not being able to be shared from the email makes sense
[19:24] <jjesse> every app within iOS is a sandbox, everything exists in that sandbox
[19:24] <jjesse> which makes it easy to wipe one app and wipe the data
[19:25] <brousch> It does not make sense. I want to attach a photo to an email like I have done for decades. This is impossible
[19:26] <brousch> Even the solutions seem to embed the photo into the email instead of attach it
[19:27] <jrwren> jjesse: they could have added a button to invoke the photo sharing api as every other app has to.
[19:27] <jrwren> brousch: embed and attach, what is the difference?
[19:27] <brousch> HTML email vs plain old email with attachment?
[19:35] <jcastro> greg-g, you were right I sailed on right out of the sub
[19:35] <jcastro> getting back in though I made a critical error and slowed down
[19:35] <jcastro> luckily some guys were around for the push
[19:35] <jrwren> brousch: an html email is just a plain old email wiht attachment.
[19:36] <jcastro> I helped a construction truck get through too
[19:37] <gamerchick02> i cleaned off my car. the complex is plowed but there's knee deep drifts around the cars. i took some poor sod's spot because i know i can get out of it
[19:38] <gamerchick02> i double-downed on pants with my cargos on top of a pair of flannel pj pants (and no i don't have long underwear here)
[19:38] <jrwren> good call
[19:38] <jrwren> i did same, flanel PJ under my pants.
[19:38] <jrwren> i was WARM
[19:38] <jrwren> took off my scarf and hat
[19:39] <jrwren> it was a good workout shoveling
[19:39] <gamerchick02> well, i was til i DROPPED MY KEYS in a snowdrift
[19:39] <gamerchick02> >_<
[19:39] <jrwren> GAH!!!
[19:39] <gamerchick02> and couldn't find them except without glove removal and kneeling down in the snow
[19:40] <gamerchick02> THAT was cold!!
[19:40] <gamerchick02> brousch, you don't like ios at all? granted i don't use it for more than games, music, and podcasts...
[19:41] <gamerchick02> i have an ipod touch
[19:42] <brousch> I don't own an iOS device. All of my attempts at usage are typing in wifi passwords for other people and attempts to help them do routine tasks, like attach a photo to an email
[19:43] <brousch> The unchanging keyboard drives me nuts on wifi password (and you can't choose to have it show what you've typed)
[19:43] <rick_h_> some like one some like hte other
[19:43] <rick_h_> why do we have to spent so much time on it?
[19:43] <rick_h_> spend
[19:43] <rick_h_> bah
[19:44] <brousch> Because Ford is better than Chevy and Coke is better than Pepsi, and the Lions are better than the Bears
[19:44] <rick_h_> see...then you had to go and speak some fighting words
[19:44] <gamerchick02> brousch i get you. that's what i hate about ios and why i won't be using it for my phone
[19:44] <gamerchick02> i <3 swiftkey too much :-P
[19:44] <rick_h_> let me know when you get a new coach lion fan :P
[19:45] <brousch> rick_h_: I actually care 0 shits about football
[19:45] <jcastro> new coach won't fix the lions
[19:45] <jcastro> the only thing that can fix the lions is the Fords selling the team
[19:45] <rick_h_> right, because they're out there playing on the field :P
[19:45] <brousch> I watched 5 minutes of U-M football this year. That is all of the football I watched
[19:46] <jcastro> rick_h_, if owners don't care about winning they will have organizations that don't care about winning
[19:46] <gamerchick02> i don't think the Fords want the Lions to win
[19:46] <rick_h_> jcastro: let me know how jerry jones and the skins owner work out for you
[19:46] <jrwren> pigskin egg carrying
[19:46] <rick_h_> jcastro: they've been doing a lot...or no winner as well :)
[19:46] <jcastro> rick_h_, teams have ups and downs
[19:46] <gamerchick02> they have the highest beer prices in the NFL. i think like $8 for a shitty bud lite or something
[19:46] <jcastro> lions have never been up
[19:47] <gamerchick02> weren't they good once in like the 50s?
[19:47] <jcastro> 35 years of losing isn't an accident
[19:47] <jcastro> even the Bengals got good at some point
[19:47] <gamerchick02> i think it's a conspiracy wherein the Fords are betting against them all the time and they have to throw the games at the last quarter
[19:48] <gamerchick02> how else can you explain other teams comebacks
[19:48] <gamerchick02> ?
[19:48] <rick_h_> just saying blaming the owners that hire/fire is a cop-out. The Lions lost this year on some moron on the field stuff
[19:48] <jcastro> there were some shitty calls too
[19:48] <gamerchick02> ofc
[19:48] <jcastro> All I am saying is that the fords don't know how to own a football team
[19:49] <jcastro> the only constant in 35 years of losing .. is the owner.
[19:49] <gamerchick02> and high-priced crappy beer. :-P
[19:50] <jcastro> you have to be really apathetic/crappy to go 35 years losing all the time
[19:50] <rick_h_> that's NFL mandate
[19:50] <jcastro> I mean dude, you have better odds in vegas
[19:50] <gamerchick02> LOL true!
[19:50] <jcastro> if tomorrow we got the best coach in the league. The best assistants, and all new players.
[19:50] <jcastro> we would still lose.
[19:50] <rick_h_> I watched a few lions games this year. I can't help but think many of those losses were on the field with a razor blade to the wrist and the owner had to sit and watch it while writing the checks
[19:50] <jrwren> browns should merge with lions
[19:51] <jcastro> the browns did it right
[19:51] <jcastro> they just said "fuck this place"
[19:51] <jcastro> and left
[19:51] <jcastro> and a new team came in
[19:51] <jcastro> If we're lucky the fords will move to Chicago. :p
[19:51] <jcastro> and then we can start over
[19:51] <jcastro> ok course they can take the lions with them
[19:52] <jcastro> But all jesting aside; they see the Lions as revenue generating, so business as usual.
[19:52] <jcastro> as long as Detroiters keep buying Lions stuff and paying for $8 Miller Lites, they'll keep milking it
[19:53] <jrwren> i would too
[19:53] <jrwren> its good business
[19:53] <jcastro> sure
[19:53] <jrwren> only wish i could buy in on the action
[19:53] <jcastro> it's just not good football
[19:53] <jrwren> greenbay has it right
[19:53] <jcastro> that's why I watch the Wings. :)
[19:53] <jcastro> because he knows the more Cups he brings home the more I will buy.
[19:54] <gamerchick02> +1 to the wings
[19:54] <gamerchick02> hockey is a better sport anyway *ducks*
[19:54] <jcastro> it is!
[19:54] <jrwren> its a canadian sport.
[19:54] <jrwren> i prefer korean sport: starcraft2
[19:55] <jcastro> and even if you prefer football, MSU is the better team
[19:55] <jcastro> 42-14, MSU over the Lions.
[19:55] <jcastro> would be the score.
[19:56] <jcastro> I would say U-M could have beat the lions this year ....
[19:56] <jcastro> but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
[19:57] <gamerchick02> lol jcastro
[19:57] <gamerchick02> i do think MSU would beat the Lions
[19:57] <cmaloney> I wish there was something like the curse of the Bambino that we could say was the problem with the Lions
[19:57] <cmaloney> Something cool and My-STER-I-Ous
[19:58] <cmaloney> Like someone got kicked out of Ford Field with his goat back in the 1800s and said "You'll never go to the superbowl"
[19:59] <cmaloney> But again, I couldn't care less about the Lions or any Football / Baseball / Basketball / Sportball
[19:59] <brousch> jcastro: I always wondered why the Lions didn't recruit more players from U-M and MSU. It seems like they could take better advantage of fans that already exist
[19:59] <cmaloney> Now Hockey... that's a sport I could give a puck about.
[20:00] <gamerchick02> :)
[20:00] <cmaloney> brousch: Probably because UofM or MSU students would commit hari-kari if they were picked by the Lions
[20:00] <gamerchick02> i reduced my cable channels so no hockey for me. i can listen via the web or radio.
[20:00] <gamerchick02> lol cmaloney
[20:00] <cmaloney> "I'm a first round draft pick for the Lions? Bring me my sword."
[20:01] <cmaloney> At least if you're out of state you won't have nearly the same reaction.
[20:01] <gamerchick02> but they always trade their first rounds for a different player or three from another team
[20:01] <cmaloney> "Yay! I'm no longer in [insert name of podunkville]"
[20:21] <jrwren> greg-g: just saw your priviledge post. great. ty.
[20:41] <jcastro> man awesome
[20:41] <jcastro> I was shovelling over lunch
[20:41] <jcastro> and there was this clunk
[20:41] <jcastro> So I dig it out
[20:41] <jcastro> an entire frozen dog pee clump of ice.
[20:42] <rick_h_> jcastro: lucky you
[20:48] <jrwren> ahahaha
[20:52] <greg-g> jrwren: thanks man
[20:58] <gamerchick02> oh ew
[21:06] <jrwren> anyone with rabbitmq experience via pika?
[21:07] <Havenstance> about tired of this cold already...
[21:14] <greg-g> boy is it tough to remember when you ate the last 2 days
[21:14]  * greg-g is starting a food diary, for a number of reasons
[21:14] <greg-g> if you skip 2 days, you're fucked, at least my memory is
[21:16] <jrwren> oh no greg-g, say it isn't so!
[21:16] <jrwren> greg-g: gluten is your friend!
[21:16] <greg-g> hahahaha
[21:16] <greg-g> uh, no comment?
[21:18] <greg-g> to be less obtuse: yeah, paleo ish, but not strict. I'm going to go "carb loading" days twice a week
[21:18] <greg-g> where "carb loading" == "about the same amount of carbs a normal american eats in a day"
[21:19] <greg-g> really, the food diary is to figure out if it is helping or not, cuz, well, TMI ;)
[21:24] <greg-g> s/going to go/going to have/
[21:24] <greg-g> or maybe I meant "do", whatever
[21:27] <gamerchick02> what on earth is carb loading? i just try to eat balanced and not too much chocolate which is hard right now because of lady issues.
[21:28] <gamerchick02> TMI i know sorry guys
[21:30] <greg-g> :)
[21:31] <greg-g> gamerchick02: carb loading is normally associated with athletes the day before a big event. eg: we all ate big pasta dinners in high school the day before a cross country race
[21:31] <gamerchick02> ah
[21:31] <gamerchick02> why do you want to do this now?
[21:31] <greg-g> in my context, it'll be: "eating a normal amount of carbs" because my daily carb intake will be very low
[21:31] <gamerchick02> ah ok
[21:32] <greg-g> where "normal" == "average american-ish"
[21:32] <jrwren> greg-g: the problem is, some changes take weeks or months to change your body.
[21:32] <gamerchick02> take my carbs from my cold dead hands.
[21:32] <greg-g> jrwren: agreed
[21:32] <gamerchick02> i'm trying to move more to compensate for them.
[21:32] <greg-g> it ain't easy trying to fix the things
[21:32] <jrwren> greg-g: are you going to nocarb for 6 weeks and get to ketosis?
[21:33] <greg-g> I do have some issues to address: hypoglecemia, irritable bowel (for lack of a better phrase), etc
[21:33] <greg-g> jrwren: I can't t even if I wanted to
[21:33] <jrwren> why not?
[21:33] <jrwren> hypoglecemia?
[21:33] <greg-g> yeah
[21:33] <greg-g> tring to get rid of that first :/
[21:34] <greg-g> I get major headaches on the days i don't eat carbs in the morning, not cured by coffee
[21:34] <jrwren> i should monitor mine and blood pressure more closely. but if I ain't dead, then oh well.
[21:34] <greg-g> :)
[21:34] <jrwren> how much coffee do you drink?
[21:34] <greg-g> it's not just the notion of "be better" for me its "get not bad"
[21:34] <greg-g> a french press/day
[21:34] <greg-g> ie: 2 mugs
[21:35] <greg-g> not one of those huge presses, but not a tiny one
[21:35] <jrwren> 6oz mugz, so likely 12oz, that is not much
[21:35] <greg-g> yeah, about that
[21:36] <gamerchick02> no that's not too bad
[21:36] <greg-g> yeah, coffee ain't my problem
[21:36] <gamerchick02> i usually do a "medium" at work and that's it for the coffee. sometimes a pop at lunch but not usually.
[21:36] <greg-g> the sugar in food is :/
[21:36] <jrwren> thinkpad lovers: end your love: http://www.lenovo.com/images/subseries/lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-x1-carbon-2-keyboard.png
[21:36] <jrwren> WORST KEYBOARD EVER!!!
[21:37] <greg-g> gawd i hate those keyboards
[21:37] <gamerchick02> what's wrong with it?
[21:37]  * greg-g holds tightly onto his x200s
[21:37] <rick_h_> with your high res screen
[21:37] <greg-g> I should look at ebay for some more of this gen x-series
[21:37] <jrwren> home end to right of a is where the ctrl key goes
[21:38] <gamerchick02> oh.
[21:38] <gamerchick02> i like my macbook air keyboard *ducks*
[21:38] <greg-g> you better
[21:38] <greg-g> ;)
[21:38] <gamerchick02> i paid enough for it. :-P
[21:38]  * rick_h_ is back on the kenesis for the past week
[21:38] <jrwren> gamerchick02: i like my macbookair keyboard too... once I turn capslock into ctrl
[21:38] <greg-g> rick_h_: well done, sir
[21:39] <gamerchick02> goddamnit i'm gonna have to fire up the space heater.
[21:39] <gamerchick02> jrwren, i don't do that. are you running linux on it or OSX?
[21:39] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: yea, after I go out and pick up the wife from work the fireplace will be started
[21:40] <jrwren> gamerchick02: OSX
[21:40] <jrwren> gamerchick02: i've never used capslock, and I use a lot of vim
[21:40] <gamerchick02> ah!
[21:40] <jrwren> gamerchick02: and vi was written on a ADM3A
[21:40] <gamerchick02> rick_h_ that's a good idea
[21:40] <jrwren> gamerchick02: and the ADM3A has ctrl to the left of A
[21:40] <jrwren> gamerchick02: and now so do I :)
[21:41] <cmaloney> Honestly that's a pretty dumb keyobard decision
[21:41] <gamerchick02> jrwren, that's interesting. i don't use vim much.
[21:41] <rick_h_> the horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:41] <cmaloney> I doubt you'll see more than one or two revs with that
[21:41] <rick_h_> jrwren: the latest thing is https://floobits.com/
[21:41] <jrwren> cmaloney: i know!!! its NUTS!
[21:41] <rick_h_> jrwren: we've been testing it between the sublime and vim users
[21:41] <rick_h_> well, guys on the team have
[21:42] <gamerchick02> floobits looks cool
[21:42] <jrwren> floobits looks sweet
[21:42] <gamerchick02> i don't code but if i did and had to collaboratively, i'd use that.
[23:08] <gamerchick02> i was re-reading the bit about floobits and it sounds like something out of harry potter. sorry.
[23:40] <cmaloney> heh