[13:04] <Mez> Hi all, looking for suggestions for gfx cards, as my current card refuses to play with my new machine (can't boot to live cd with it).  Any suggestions ?
[13:04] <Mez> (hoping for 4 monitors)
[13:13] <ogra_> mlankhorst, tjaalton,  ... i'm seeing something like this on my dell xps 13 in trusty (ivy-bridge model) http://askubuntu.com/questions/313190/random-black-dot-on-the-screen do you know of any workaround/fix ?
[13:24] <tjaalton> ogra_: i occasionally see similar corruption on a focused terminator window, but it's very random
[13:25] <tjaalton> file a bug and i guess ickle will have something to try
[13:25] <ogra_> yeah, it isnt costant ... i see it probably twice a day flashing by 
[13:25] <mlankhorst> ogra_: maybe #intel-gfx knows?
[13:25] <tjaalton> i'm still on saucy though
[13:25] <ogra_> intrestingly it doesnt seem to affect the panel and launcher 
[13:25] <mlankhorst> file a bug in any case, maybe they have an idea
[13:26] <ogra_> yeah, will do, it isnt urgent anyway 
[13:26] <tjaalton> it's sna related
[13:26] <ogra_> (not actually disturbing or some such, but would be good to have it fixed by release)
[13:26] <tjaalton> we're behind a few releases
[13:26] <ogra_> ah
[13:27] <tjaalton> but the latest one has some gen4 regression
[13:27] <tjaalton> iirc
[13:27] <mlankhorst> funfun
[13:35] <tjaalton> some font issue, not a huge regression
[13:39] <mlankhorst> I think we should upload something newer though for intel
[13:40] <mlankhorst> maybe 907 napshot + gen7 regression fix?
[13:42] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: you ok with that?
[13:44] <Mez> Ok, I've managed to get X to a point where it crashes, I think (system beep, can't change VT, etc)
[13:45] <Mez> where would I find the logs for this ?
[13:45] <mlankhorst> dmesg?
[13:47] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: ah, upstream doesn't have more than that.. then yeah I guess that's ok
[13:47] <tjaalton> I could test it on my gen4 tho
[13:55] <tjaalton> ..tomorrow, public holiday today :)
[13:59] <mlankhorst> odd, xorg-server 1.15 build times out on i386
[14:00] <jcristau_> worked here: https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=xorg-server&arch=i386&ver=2%3A1.15.0-1&stamp=1389010723
[14:01] <mlankhorst> https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/x-staging/+build/5415802 ppa times out
[14:02] <Mez> mlankhorst: dmesg shows a normal boot - nothing new after starting X
[14:02] <mlankhorst> anything in xorg.0.log?
[14:03] <Mez> doesn't seem to be any errors or anything :(
[14:04] <Mez> http://pastebin.com/YsZu3GTW
[14:04] <mlankhorst> then obviously there is nothing wrong
[14:04] <mlankhorst> except why are you using vesa? o.O
[14:05] <Mez> mlankhorst: well, the machine boots to a black screen, so I have nomodeset set
[14:05] <mlankhorst> don't set nomodeset and try again
[14:06] <Mez> mlankhorst: give me a sec, but I *believe* that that makes for an unresponsive system...
[14:09] <Mez> ok, now I'm getting some interesting errors
[14:10] <Mez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6703344/
[14:11] <Mez> I'm getting a black screen though
[15:11] <Mez> I understand I'm a pain in the ass asking all these questions... but does anyone have the time to help me? I really would love to get my new machine working 
[15:41] <tjaalton> Mez: upgrade your kernel
[15:41] <tjaalton> saucy is clearly too ld
[15:42] <tjaalton> +o
[15:42] <tjaalton> you could also just try blacklisting nouveau
[15:45] <Mez> tjaalton: I've actually tracked it down to gdm now
[15:45] <Mez> gdm doesnt like not being 3d
[15:50] <tjaalton> right, so blacklist nouveau..
[15:50] <tjaalton> I bet the intel part can still do 3d
[15:50] <Mez> tjaalton: I want 4 screens... that's not going to run using 3d...
[15:50] <Mez> or... would it...
[15:50] <Mez> hmm...
[15:51] <tjaalton> Mez: you're not going to get any hybrid with it
[15:52] <Mez> ?
[15:52] <tjaalton> this is a hybrid machine right?
[15:52] <Mez> nope
[15:52] <Mez> Desktop machine.  Onboard Intel
[15:53] <tjaalton> so disable the integrated chip
[15:53] <Mez> with a seperate nvidia
[15:53] <Mez> there's no option to
[15:53] <tjaalton> sure there is
[15:53] <Mez> tjaalton: I can take photos of my BIOS if you wish, but I went through EVERY option and there wasn't one
[15:54] <Mez> the only option was to make the onboard bitch at boot if you had a monitor connected to it.
[15:54] <tjaalton> don't attach a monitor to the mobo?
[15:54] <Mez> That's enabled, but the device is still there
[15:54] <Mez> Anyway, I don't think it's an issue with X anymore.  I can get it happily working with X - but not with a full gnome session
[16:17] <tjaalton> well, I'd say it's a bit too much to expect X to work correctly in this scenario
[16:17] <tjaalton> blacklist i915.ko then and see what happens
[17:29] <Sarvatt> ricotz: hmm, libgl1-mesa-dev in the ppa needs to depend on libxcb-dri3-dev, libxcb-present-dev, libxcb-sync-dev, libxshmfence-dev it looks like
[17:34] <Sarvatt> updating it now
[18:02] <Sarvatt> uploaded a new bumblebee too, got a ton of emails over the weekend about it being busted