| jarnos | brainwash_, but the PPA does not contain lightdm-gtk-greeter | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| brainwash_ | no? the PPA is called " | 00:01 |
| brainwash_ | LightDM GTK+ Greeter Daily" | 00:01 |
| jarnos | brainwash_, ok | 00:03 |
| jarnos | brainwash_, works better :) | 00:07 |
| brainwash_ | great that we got this sorted | 00:08 |
| Unit193 | http://packages.qa.debian.org/libx/libxfce4ui.html Well hey, we could actually try to get that from experimental. That's one we pretty clearly need. | 00:10 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, Everything in debian (except indicator 1.0) is already merged, some need sponsoring. All released xfce 4.11 packages are in the debian svn | 00:10 |
| ochosi | Unit193: how do these things get synced anyway? | 00:11 |
| ochosi | or Noskcaj ^ | 00:12 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Automatic for anything in unstable where the Ubuntu version doesn't have ubuntu# | 00:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, but if we need stuff from experimental | 00:12 |
| Noskcaj | experimental or ubuntu changes need manual work. which i have done | 00:12 |
| Unit193 | The program 'requestsync' is in the ubuntu-dev-tools package. | 00:13 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: so what's in the sponsoring queue already and what still needs work? | 00:16 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, Just needs a sponsor | 00:16 |
| ochosi | (sorry if i'm asking many questions now, but i really wanna get an overview over the situation now that the holidays are over) | 00:16 |
| Noskcaj | it's fine. https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/libxfce4ui/4.11/+merge/200196 is the libxfce4ui merge | 00:17 |
| Noskcaj | Plus the light-locker fix and the new xfce4-terminal are in the queue | 00:17 |
| Noskcaj | And i'm currently packaging the embed plugin | 00:19 |
| ochosi | what light-locker fix are you referring to exactly? | 00:19 |
| ochosi | the xflock patch? | 00:19 |
| Noskcaj | yeah | 00:20 |
| ochosi | well light-locker also needs to replace xscreensaver in the seed.. | 00:20 |
| ochosi | (in case you wanna do another MR) | 00:20 |
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| Unit193 | ochosi: Already requested. | 00:21 |
| ochosi | oh ok | 00:21 |
| ochosi | so basically we have lots of stuff in the queue | 00:22 |
| Noskcaj | sooooo much stuff | 00:22 |
| ochosi | i asked for help in -motu yesterday | 00:22 |
| Noskcaj | I have 50+ packages across debian and ubuntu waiting for sponsorship | 00:22 |
| ochosi | xnox kindly offered some support for sponsorship of packages for xubuntu | 00:22 |
| * knome crosses fingers that isn't because the "quantity before quality" -method | 00:23 | |
| ochosi | so for the really important ones i think we can ping him | 00:23 |
| Noskcaj | knome, That have build up over the last 6 months | 00:25 |
| Noskcaj | I have some in debian from when i first started packaging | 00:25 |
| knome | no doubt :) | 00:25 |
| slickymaster | Noskcaj, do you have a sec? | 00:27 |
| Noskcaj | slickymaster, Sure | 00:27 |
| slickymaster | Bug #1262492, do you really see it as a bug? | 00:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1262492 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "An empty launcher is created instead of a complete launcher in xfce panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1262492 | 00:27 |
| Noskcaj | slickymaster, I'm not sure. It would be nice to have the edit popup appear when you make a new launcher, but i can see that annoying people | 00:29 |
| slickymaster | Noskcaj, what I mean is that I see the reporter reasoning but it strikes me more as a wishlist that a bug | 00:29 |
| slickymaster | than ^^ | 00:29 |
| ochosi | yeah, this should be a wishlist item imo | 00:30 |
| ochosi | and it should be forwarded to upstream anyway | 00:30 |
| Noskcaj | Priority should be wishlist, should be forwarded upstream with "feature request" in the title | 00:30 |
| ochosi | it'll just rot in lp | 00:30 |
| slickymaster | ochosi, yes, that's what I was thinking also | 00:31 |
| slickymaster | since you marked as Confirmed, do you want to change it Noskcaj ? | 00:31 |
| Noskcaj | I don't think i have triage rights | 00:32 |
| knome | i might | 00:32 |
| ochosi | night everyone | 00:32 |
| Noskcaj | bye ochosi | 00:33 |
| slickymaster | cy tomorrow ochosi | 00:33 |
| slickymaster | knome, good | 00:34 |
| knome | (but i don't know what you are talking about, so you might want to point me to the right direction) | 00:34 |
| slickymaster | bug 1262492 | 00:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1262492 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "An empty launcher is created instead of a complete launcher in xfce panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1262492 | 00:34 |
| slickymaster | knome, ^^^ | 00:35 |
| slickymaster | it strikes me more as a wishlist than a bug | 00:35 |
| knome | set as "opinion" | 00:35 |
| knome | LP doesn't have "wishlist" | 00:35 |
| Noskcaj | knome, sure? It's still something people want fixed | 00:35 |
| Noskcaj | And yes it does | 00:35 |
| Noskcaj | In the "priority" section | 00:36 |
| slickymaster | Noskcaj, exactly | 00:36 |
| knome | aha, right | 00:36 |
| knome | yeah, me and my sloppy hands | 00:36 |
| knome | it's fixed now | 00:36 |
| knome | status: Confirmed → Won't Fix | 00:36 |
| knome | status: Won't Fix → Opinion | 00:36 |
| knome | importance: Undecided → Critical | 00:36 |
| knome | importance: Critical → Wishlist | 00:36 |
| knome | status: Opinion → Confirmed | 00:36 |
| knome | i only need 5 times! | 00:36 |
| slickymaster | thing is that I think that someone in the bugsquad team | 00:36 |
| knome | /tries | 00:36 |
| slickymaster | never mind | 00:37 |
| knome | lol | 00:37 |
| Noskcaj | We probably need more people with triage rights in xubuntu | 00:38 |
| slickymaster | +1 on that Noskcaj | 00:38 |
| * Noskcaj nominates slickymaster | 00:38 | |
| * slickymaster hides | 00:39 | |
| slickymaster | ) | 00:39 |
| * knome nominates Noskcaj as the head of all bugs and bees of xubuntu | 00:39 | |
| slickymaster | but I think you're right, Noskcaj. Do you know how many members of the team hold those rights | 00:40 |
| slickymaster | ? | 00:40 |
| Noskcaj | knome, If you want, but slickymaster does more triage than i do | 00:40 |
| knome | Noskcaj, i was only half serious :P | 00:40 |
| Noskcaj | And i'm guessing 0 | 00:40 |
| slickymaster | well, being in -qa kind of leads me to it | 00:40 |
| knome | basically anybody who's interested should get that access, it isn't something that you need to do via xubuntu | 00:40 |
| Noskcaj | Although elfy and pleia can give themselves themselves access because CC | 00:41 |
| knome | some access is leaking to me too via various teams | 00:41 |
| slickymaster | don't they already have them? | 00:41 |
| knome | Pasi Lallinaho → Ubuntu Documentation Committers → Ubuntu Bug Control | 00:41 |
| slickymaster | I mean elfy and pleia2? | 00:41 |
| Noskcaj | maybe | 00:41 |
| knome | i'm not sure | 00:42 |
| knome | if they were wise, the CC was only the owner of certain teams, not a member | 00:42 |
| slickymaster | but that's something that could be looked into | 00:42 |
| knome | i guess they could grant themselves the access, but the whole point of the community stuff is that people do not do that, but actually earn the access | 00:43 |
| slickymaster | does that requires an active roll in the bug squad? | 00:44 |
| slickymaster | or there are other ways/teams? | 00:44 |
| knome | i guess you first have to prove you are a worthy triager | 00:44 |
| Noskcaj | slickymaster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl | 00:44 |
| knome | once you do that, you should get the membership and be in the team eternally | 00:45 |
| slickymaster | Noskcaj, yeah, I'aware of that | 00:45 |
| Noskcaj | just checking | 00:45 |
| slickymaster | knome, not exactly. I'm a member of the BugSquad team but I don't have those rights | 00:46 |
| knome | slickymaster, you need to be part of the bug control team to have *that* | 00:46 |
| knome | but basically it's just more of the same | 00:46 |
| knome | i should go to bed | 00:47 |
| slickymaster | me, too. I'l be up in about 4 hours to work | 00:48 |
| knome | heh | 00:48 |
| knome | night, and good luck ;) | 00:48 |
| slickymaster | tks. cy all tomorrow | 00:48 |
| slickymaster | hace a good night | 00:48 |
| slickymaster | have | 00:48 |
| Noskcaj | g'night slickymaster, knome | 00:49 |
| knome | night Noskcaj | 00:49 |
| knome | (or day) | 00:49 |
| knome | -> | 00:49 |
| Noskcaj | midday | 00:49 |
| slickymaster | Noskcaj, cy | 00:49 |
| Unit193 | Dang, and right when I need the P a s i and master of all slickiness. | 02:23 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 02:27 |
| Unit193 | Does LP automatically pull the pot file in and update the po files with it or something? | 02:36 |
| Noskcaj | Depends on how you've set it up for a project | 02:38 |
| Unit193 | Well, I updated the pot and po files... | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | slickymaster: If you're crazy enough to read logs, not the intro is translated now: http://unit193.net/xubuntu/pt/ | 02:58 |
| Unit193 | PT is in the best of shape, of course. | 03:05 |
| Noskcaj | And now i'm in the bug control team, a whole 15 min after applying | 03:10 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 03:10 |
| Noskcaj | Guys, where's the upstream bugs/commits for the light-locker xflock4 fix? | 05:29 |
| Noskcaj | logan wants the in #ubuntu-devel | 05:29 |
| forestpiskie | Noskcaj: do you have any idea how much havoc could be wreaked by an elfy having anything to do with triage ... I am positive that you will find that pleia2 and I only appear to have them because CC owns the teams below it | 06:40 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 06:41 |
| elfy | !team |did knome fix it yet :) | 06:51 |
| ubottu | did knome fix it yet :): bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, micahg, mr_pouit, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, Unit193 | 06:51 |
| elfy | nope | 06:51 |
| * Unit193 knows someone likes that trigger... | 06:52 | |
| elfy | I shall abuse the bot until the factoid is correct :p | 06:53 |
| Unit193 | Fix what? | 06:53 |
| xnox | ochosi: knome: Noskcaj: i'm a DD so can sponsor things into debian as well. And well, when sponsoring packages i do review them and ask for things to be fixed up, i don't just blindly dput stuff. | 06:54 |
| * Unit193 notes that he should bother xnox about a QA upload. :P | 06:54 | |
| Unit193 | (Kidding.) | 06:54 |
| elfy | bad bad Unit193 | 06:55 |
| Noskcaj | xnox, Well i've got at least 50 | 06:55 |
| elfy | I'd guess xnox is facepalming now ... :) | 06:55 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: if it's not on mentors.debian.net or not in http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ they don't count. And I did do a few of yours not so long ago. | 06:57 |
| Noskcaj | etm-qt in the PAPT, audicious* in pkg-multimedia, 10 in pkg gnome, 13 in mentors (a few aren't actually needing sponsoring there, but gambc really does), 24 in the sponsor queue | 06:58 |
| Noskcaj | that enough ;) | 06:58 |
| Noskcaj | Please do a few | 06:58 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, Why am i not in !team ? or the other two new guys | 06:59 |
| elfy | because XPL hasn't done it yet I guess - I'm on the hassling detail for that :) | 07:00 |
| elfy | it'll get done I'm sure :) | 07:00 |
| Unit193 | elfy: At least I was kidding, though I need to find it nevertheless. :P | 07:00 |
| elfy | Unit193: find what? | 07:00 |
| elfy | ochosi: not got time to look further atm but - suspend seems to just locking - not going down - just cycling to login screen | 07:51 |
| TESTER | Hi, where are Xubuntu 12.04 Alternate Images to test? | 08:53 |
| TESTER | Sorry, of course 14.04!!! | 08:54 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: when talking about uploads that others could do for us, please focus on those that we urgently need in 14.04 | 08:57 |
| Noskcaj | TESTER, Sorry, only lubuntu, ubuntu-server, and netboot have alternate installs | 08:57 |
| ochosi | i.e. the three packages for indicators, etc | 08:58 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, yeah. will do. I've got logan looking at xflock, he just wants an upstream bug(fix) or gt commit first | 08:58 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: yeah, well that means it might take ages | 08:59 |
| Noskcaj | xnox, If you're still around, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/libxfce4ui/4.11/+merge/200196 is the highest priority merge | 08:59 |
| ochosi | but really, panel and indicators should be the first thing to go in imo | 08:59 |
| ochosi | yup, let's start with that | 08:59 |
| TESTER | 14.04 will be based on XFCE 4.11 ??? | 09:01 |
| Noskcaj | TESTER, Parts of it | 09:01 |
| ochosi | xnox: thanks, i really appreciate that you don't just blindly dput stuff :) we'll try to only ask you for help where certain quality standards are met | 09:01 |
| ochosi | k, g2g, have a fun day everyone | 09:02 |
| Noskcaj | Yeah, i need sleep now. bye ochosi | 09:02 |
| TESTER | Noskcaj - so I have to use Lubuntu Iso and then install xfce-desktop (if there is such a thing) when I want to encrypt whole harddisk? | 09:02 |
| ochosi | elfy: i guess looking at the logs would be a good step here | 09:02 |
| TESTER | I have 4.12 runnig fine on 12.04 - is needed for multi monitor support, should be in 14.04 | 09:03 |
| slickymaster | morning all | 09:33 |
| knome | the !team factoid is updated. | 12:39 |
| rowboatnick | !team | 12:52 |
| ubottu | bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 12:52 |
| elfy | knome: thanks :) | 12:52 |
| knome | rowboatnick, well there was no reason to test it and poke everybody :P | 12:52 |
| rowboatnick | knome: i had to know :( | 12:53 |
| elfy | bad rowboatnick :) | 12:53 |
| knome | rowboatnick, /msg ubottu !team-#xubuntu-devel | 12:55 |
| lderan | \o/ | 13:27 |
| jarnos | ochosi, as for light-locker, isn't the lightdm-gtk-greeter going to be too old in Trusty for it? | 13:49 |
| jarnos | ochosi, it might be good to have a mature xscreensaver bundled with Xubuntu; Lubuntu 13.10 uses the greeter in lxlock that is LXDE equivalent of xflock4, and it introduced a critical security bug that has still not been fixed in updates. | 13:59 |
| jarnos | brainwash, hi, isn't the lightdm-gtk-greeter going to be too old for light-locker in Trusty? | 14:00 |
| brainwash | jarnos: no, trusty will ship with version 1.8 I think | 14:01 |
| jarnos | brainwash, so you can't trust http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=%20lightdm-gtk-greeter&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all | 14:02 |
| brainwash | well, it will be version 1.7.0 at least | 14:02 |
| brainwash | jarnos: trusty is still in development, many packages will be updated in the next months | 14:03 |
| brainwash | and version 1.7.0 has been released like 1(?) week ago | 14:04 |
| jarnos | ochosi, this is the bug with lxlock: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1205384 | 14:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1205384 in lxsession (Ubuntu) "Lock can be circumvented by switching to console" [High,In progress] | 14:07 |
| brainwash | still not fixed in the official repo? | 14:08 |
| brainwash | wow, a critical bug should be fixed asap | 14:09 |
| jarnos | brainwash, right | 14:11 |
| jarnos | brainwash, and the bug report was made more thant two months before release of Lubuntu 13.10! | 14:14 |
| jarnos | brainwash, I don't know what they are thinking. It would be easy to modify lxlock as a workaround. | 14:17 |
| brainwash | jarnos: sad story, hopefully there will be a happy ending | 14:22 |
| brainwash | most users are not aware of this security issue :/ | 14:22 |
| jarnos | brainwash, at least information about it was added (long after release) to release notes of Lubuntu 13.10, after I requested it. | 14:26 |
| jarnos | brainwash, but that does not help people that installed Lubuntu 13.10 before that. | 14:27 |
| ochosi | jarnos: this is exactly what light-locker fixes | 15:12 |
| ochosi | i told the lubuntu guys long ago | 15:12 |
| ochosi | bbl | 15:12 |
| brainwash | ochosi: so bug 1264563 won't be fixed in lightdm | 15:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1264563 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "switch-to-greeter does not set lock hint" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1264563 | 15:26 |
| brainwash | does the patch for lightdm-gtk-greeter break any functionality of the greeter? is it bad if the greeter checks for logged in users even on a fresh boot? | 15:28 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yes, i read, it's fine i'll take care of the greeter soon | 15:28 |
| brainwash | ok :) | 15:28 |
| slickymaster | bbl | 16:29 |
| jarnos | ochosi, in some cases I have ended up with situation where all displays remain blanked even if I move mouse, when I use light-locker from daily PPA. | 16:58 |
| brainwash | jarnos: did you try to switch to vt7 and back? | 17:06 |
| jarnos | brainwash, yes, but it didn't help. I had to reboot. | 17:09 |
| brainwash | so typing the password blindly did not work either? | 17:10 |
| brainwash | light-locker does not blank the screen, lightdm-gtk-greeter tells the X server to do so | 17:11 |
| brainwash | there might be error messages in your Xorg or lightdm log files | 17:13 |
| brainwash | /var/log/lightdm | 17:13 |
| elfy | oi/ | 17:17 |
| jarnos | brainwash, you mean ERROR? | 17:17 |
| jarnos | brainwash, anyway, was using a laptop with (only) an external display enabled. | 17:26 |
| jarnos | brainwash, I did not notice any ERROR messages in recent logs at /var/log/lightdm | 17:28 |
| brainwash | jarnos: don't know what might cause this faulty behavior | 17:36 |
| brainwash | at least create a bug report and attach the greeter log files and so on | 17:38 |
| brainwash | the screen does not unblank after manual locking, right? | 17:39 |
| brainwash | try to reproduce it by running "dm-tool lock" | 17:39 |
| jarnos | brainwash, when I use it, it also blanks screen, doesn't respond to mouse, but Ctrl-Alt-F7 unlocks. | 18:04 |
| brainwash | jarnos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+filebug | 18:11 |
| brainwash | :P | 18:11 |
| jarnos | brainwash, maybe later, I am busy. | 18:16 |
| pmjdebru2jn | hi | 18:27 |
| pmjdebru2jn | is anybody here aware of anything special with regard to scrollbar theming on xubuntu? | 18:28 |
| pmjdebru2jn | I have an application of which scrollbars a differently themed on xubuntu than on ubuntu | 18:28 |
| pmjdebru2jn | and the application explicitly loads it's own clearlooks based theme | 18:28 |
| pmjdebru2jn | (special purpose app) | 18:28 |
| brainwash | ubuntu/unity uses overlay scrollbars | 18:29 |
| brainwash | special purpose app? sounds mysterious | 18:30 |
| ochosi | hey pmjdebru2jn | 18:31 |
| ochosi | there's nothing special happening really | 18:31 |
| ochosi | our themes use murrine's gtk-scrollbar theming in gtk2 and the default engine in gtk3 | 18:31 |
| pmjdebru2jn | I know about the overlay stuff, but that's not what I meant | 18:32 |
| pmjdebru2jn | even with overlay scrollbars disabled, it looks like I'd expect on ubuntu | 18:32 |
| pmjdebru2jn | in xubuntu the scrollbars are recessed | 18:32 |
| ochosi | if you need help and it should remain secret feel free to PM me with more specifics | 18:32 |
| pmjdebru2jn | app = darktable (for photography, so it has a dark neutral theme) | 18:33 |
| pmjdebru2jn | I guess I should upload some screenshots | 18:33 |
| ochosi | yeah, that'd be helpful | 18:34 |
| ochosi | but i can also install it and see what's going on | 18:35 |
| ochosi | i suspect it's a problem of the combination of your rc-files in darktable and options we set in out themes | 18:35 |
| ochosi | what version of darktable are we talking about and what would be the most straightforward way to get it in 13.10? | 18:38 |
| pmjdebru2jn | oh | 18:38 |
| pmjdebru2jn | sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pmjdebruijn/darktable-unstable :D | 18:38 |
| pmjdebru2jn | my ppas are the official project ppas :) | 18:39 |
| ochosi | thought so :) | 18:40 |
| ochosi | i presume we're talking gtk2? | 18:40 |
| pmjdebru2jn | yes | 18:41 |
| pmjdebru2jn | indeed | 18:41 |
| pmjdebru2jn | we mostly use clearlooks | 18:41 |
| pmjdebru2jn | gtk2-engines | 18:41 |
| pmjdebru2jn | the basic theme is a modified version from something from art.gnome.org, which someone else modified | 18:41 |
| pmjdebru2jn | and now I'm fiddling with it | 18:41 |
| pmjdebru2jn | :) | 18:41 |
| pmjdebru2jn | practically it's fine, but cosmetically it's a bit ugly on xubuntu now | 18:42 |
| ochosi | yeah, but xubuntu doesn't have clearlooks installed by default | 18:45 |
| pmjdebru2jn | initially I though it was the shadow-type thing, but that's set to GTK_SHADOW_NONE | 18:45 |
| ochosi | just for starters | 18:45 |
| pmjdebru2jn | ochosi: the package pulls in gtk2-engines | 18:45 |
| ochosi | oh, you install it | 18:45 |
| ochosi | yeah, just saw it | 18:45 |
| ochosi | why not just modify the colors? | 18:46 |
| ochosi | is it really necessary to modify the whole theme looks? | 18:46 |
| pmjdebru2jn | not per-se | 18:46 |
| pmjdebru2jn | well | 18:46 |
| pmjdebru2jn | then again | 18:46 |
| ochosi | would make the looks of darktable more integrated | 18:46 |
| ochosi | (is my first thought) | 18:46 |
| pmjdebru2jn | the more we leave to chance, the more can go wrong | 18:46 |
| pmjdebru2jn | ochosi: we don't want to look integrated | 18:46 |
| pmjdebru2jn | we have lots of custom widgets too | 18:47 |
| pmjdebru2jn | so by itself looking "integrated" really isn't a concern | 18:47 |
| pmjdebru2jn | it's basically just another vector for unexpected issues | 18:47 |
| ochosi | right, i understand | 18:47 |
| ochosi | so, i see the scrollbars now | 18:48 |
| ochosi | what seems to be the issue? | 18:48 |
| ochosi | or: how should they look? | 18:48 |
| pmjdebru2jn | there's an extra sunk in bevel around the scrollbars at the sides | 18:50 |
| pmjdebru2jn | when I do export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 | 18:51 |
| pmjdebru2jn | they are not there on ubuntu | 18:51 |
| pmjdebru2jn | you do see what I mean right? | 18:52 |
| ochosi | pmjdebru2jn: extra sunk bevel? you mean the scrollbar trough? | 19:08 |
| ochosi | i guess i should load some pics in... | 19:09 |
| pmjdebru2jn | ochosi: the scrollbars are forced on at the sides | 19:10 |
| ochosi | yeah, i see them there | 19:10 |
| ochosi | they're a bit bulky | 19:11 |
| ochosi | and there's no visible trough | 19:11 |
| ochosi | do you have a screener of what it should look like? | 19:11 |
| pmjdebru2jn | let me make one | 19:12 |
| ochosi | thanks | 19:12 |
| ochosi | that'd be helpful | 19:12 |
| pmjdebru2jn | https://encrypted.pcode.nl/files/temp/dt-ubuntu.png | 19:15 |
| ochosi | ok, the reason is simple | 19:15 |
| ochosi | now that i see it :) | 19:15 |
| ochosi | where is your rc file, then i can try to quickly patch it | 19:16 |
| pmjdebru2jn | /usr/share/darktable/darktable.gtkrc | 19:17 |
| ochosi | pmjdebru2jn: this should fix your issue mostly: http://dpaste.com/1539527/ | 19:22 |
| ochosi | there could be more to fix, but try that first and lemme know whether that's what you expected | 19:22 |
| pmjdebru2jn | ah cool, let me look | 19:23 |
| pmjdebru2jn | ochosi: I don't think that makes a difference over here | 19:28 |
| ochosi | are you sure? | 19:28 |
| ochosi | that's weird | 19:28 |
| pmjdebru2jn | insert at line 28 right? | 19:29 |
| ochosi | well the line number doesn't matter really | 19:29 |
| pmjdebru2jn | those property are button related? | 19:29 |
| pmjdebru2jn | aren't they? | 19:29 |
| ochosi | this is about overruling the theme deactivating the scrollbar steppers | 19:29 |
| ochosi | cause that's all that really happens | 19:29 |
| ochosi | if you use bluebird for example, that problem shouldn't occur | 19:30 |
| ochosi | (just to quickly test) | 19:30 |
| ochosi | or use albatross | 19:30 |
| ochosi | those themes don't deactivate the steppers, so things should look normal | 19:30 |
| pmjdebru2jn | ah it's fine with albatross indeed | 19:31 |
| Unit193 | How about that, gtk2 indicator lands. | 20:14 |
| brainwash | so now we only need the patched power manager and saucy will be ready for release :P | 20:17 |
| brainwash | Unit193: do you plan to keep your Xfce PPA up-to-date? | 20:19 |
| brainwash | xfwm4 + xfdesktop | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: I don't see why not, but note that it's the tabwin branch, not xfwm/master. | 20:19 |
| brainwash | yeah, your PPA is great for testing recent fixes and the seamless background transition | 20:21 |
| brainwash | tabwin won't be ready for trusty, or? | 20:21 |
| Unit193 | It'd be ready, but perhaps not merged. | 20:23 |
| Noskcaj | Just wondering, can't forestpiskie sponsor stuff for us because Community Council gives access to core-dev? | 21:19 |
| Unit193 | Not without major abuse of power. | 21:23 |
| Unit193 | He also won't because he doesn't touch voodoo. | 21:24 |
| slickymaster | night all | 21:25 |
| Noskcaj | hey slickymaster | 21:26 |
| slickymaster | hey Noskcaj | 21:26 |
| Noskcaj | So i'l in bug control now. | 21:27 |
| Noskcaj | *i'm | 21:27 |
| slickymaster | great | 21:27 |
| slickymaster | but do you mean bug sqaud? | 21:27 |
| Noskcaj | Now i just need one of the admins to actually put me in the team | 21:27 |
| Noskcaj | bugcontrol = can set priority and target release | 21:28 |
| slickymaster | Noskcaj, isn't bug control a restricted team? | 21:28 |
| Noskcaj | slickymaster, yeah | 21:29 |
| Noskcaj | I applied yesterday and got the required number of +1s | 21:29 |
| slickymaster | that's great, we sure need some more members with those rights | 21:29 |
| slickymaster | Noskcaj, you can ping bdmurray on that | 21:32 |
| Noskcaj | I don't have time now, but i will | 21:32 |
| slickymaster | great | 21:32 |
| brainwash | can anyone verify that the proposed xfce4-terminal package works in saucy? bug 1206739 | 22:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1206739 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu Saucy) "xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in magazine_chain_pop_head()" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206739 | 22:15 |
| brainwash | looks like the package is stuck in proposed since 2013-11-12 | 22:16 |
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