[00:00] <jarnos> brainwash_, but the PPA does not contain lightdm-gtk-greeter
[00:01] <brainwash_> no? the PPA is called "
[00:01] <brainwash_> LightDM GTK+ Greeter Daily"
[00:03] <jarnos> brainwash_, ok
[00:07] <jarnos> brainwash_, works better :)
[00:08] <brainwash_> great that we got this sorted
[00:10] <Unit193> http://packages.qa.debian.org/libx/libxfce4ui.html Well hey, we could actually try to get that from experimental.  That's one we pretty clearly need.
[00:10] <Noskcaj> ochosi, Everything in debian (except indicator 1.0) is already merged, some need sponsoring. All released xfce 4.11 packages are in the debian svn
[00:11] <ochosi> Unit193: how do these things get synced anyway?
[00:12] <ochosi> or Noskcaj ^
[00:12] <Unit193> ochosi: Automatic for anything in unstable where the Ubuntu version doesn't have ubuntu#
[00:12] <ochosi> yeah, but if we need stuff from experimental
[00:12] <Noskcaj> experimental or ubuntu changes need manual work. which i have done
[00:13] <Unit193> The program 'requestsync' is in the ubuntu-dev-tools package.
[00:16] <ochosi> Noskcaj: so what's in the sponsoring queue already and what still needs work?
[00:16] <Noskcaj> ochosi, Just needs a sponsor
[00:16] <ochosi> (sorry if i'm asking many questions now, but i really wanna get an overview over the situation now that the holidays are over)
[00:17] <Noskcaj> it's fine. https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/libxfce4ui/4.11/+merge/200196 is the libxfce4ui merge
[00:17] <Noskcaj> Plus the light-locker fix and the new xfce4-terminal are in the queue
[00:19] <Noskcaj> And i'm currently packaging the embed plugin
[00:19] <ochosi> what light-locker fix are you referring to exactly?
[00:19] <ochosi> the xflock patch?
[00:20] <Noskcaj> yeah
[00:20] <ochosi> well light-locker also needs to replace xscreensaver in the seed..
[00:20] <ochosi> (in case you wanna do another MR)
[00:21] <Unit193> ochosi: Already requested.
[00:21] <ochosi> oh ok
[00:22] <ochosi> so basically we have lots of stuff in the queue
[00:22] <Noskcaj> sooooo much stuff
[00:22] <ochosi> i asked for help in -motu yesterday
[00:22] <Noskcaj> I have 50+ packages across debian and ubuntu waiting for sponsorship
[00:22] <ochosi> xnox kindly offered some support for sponsorship of packages for xubuntu
[00:23]  * knome crosses fingers that isn't because the "quantity before quality" -method
[00:23] <ochosi> so for the really important ones i think we can ping him
[00:25] <Noskcaj> knome, That have build up over the last 6 months
[00:25] <Noskcaj> I have some in debian from when i first started packaging
[00:25] <knome> no doubt :)
[00:27] <slickymaster> Noskcaj, do you have a sec?
[00:27] <Noskcaj> slickymaster, Sure
[00:27] <slickymaster> Bug #1262492, do you really see it as a bug?
[00:29] <Noskcaj> slickymaster, I'm not sure. It would be nice to have the edit popup appear when you make a new launcher, but i can see that annoying people
[00:29] <slickymaster> Noskcaj,  what I mean is that I see the reporter reasoning but it strikes me more as a wishlist that a bug
[00:29] <slickymaster> than ^^
[00:30] <ochosi> yeah, this should be a wishlist item imo
[00:30] <ochosi> and it should be forwarded to upstream anyway
[00:30] <Noskcaj> Priority should be wishlist, should be forwarded upstream with "feature request" in the title
[00:30] <ochosi> it'll just rot in lp
[00:31] <slickymaster> ochosi, yes, that's what I was thinking also
[00:31] <slickymaster> since you marked as Confirmed, do you want to change it Noskcaj ?
[00:32] <Noskcaj> I don't think i have triage rights
[00:32] <knome> i might
[00:32] <ochosi> night everyone
[00:33] <Noskcaj> bye ochosi 
[00:33] <slickymaster> cy tomorrow ochosi 
[00:34] <slickymaster> knome, good
[00:34] <knome> (but i don't know what you are talking about, so you might want to point me to the right direction)
[00:34] <slickymaster> bug 1262492
[00:35] <slickymaster> knome, ^^^
[00:35] <slickymaster> it strikes me more as a wishlist than a bug
[00:35] <knome> set as "opinion"
[00:35] <knome> LP doesn't have "wishlist"
[00:35] <Noskcaj> knome, sure? It's still something people want fixed
[00:35] <Noskcaj> And yes it does
[00:36] <Noskcaj> In the "priority" section
[00:36] <slickymaster> Noskcaj, exactly 
[00:36] <knome> aha, right
[00:36] <knome> yeah, me and my sloppy hands
[00:36] <knome> it's fixed now
[00:36] <knome> status: 	Confirmed → Won't Fix
[00:36] <knome> status: 	Won't Fix → Opinion
[00:36] <knome> importance: 	Undecided → Critical
[00:36] <knome> importance: 	Critical → Wishlist
[00:36] <knome> status: 	Opinion → Confirmed 
[00:36] <knome> i only need 5 times!
[00:36] <slickymaster> thing is that I think that someone in the bugsquad team 
[00:36] <knome> /tries
[00:37] <slickymaster> never mind 
[00:37] <knome> lol
[00:38] <Noskcaj> We probably need more people with triage rights in xubuntu
[00:38] <slickymaster> +1 on that Noskcaj 
[00:38]  * Noskcaj nominates slickymaster
[00:39]  * slickymaster hides
[00:39] <slickymaster> )
[00:39]  * knome nominates Noskcaj as the head of all bugs and bees of xubuntu
[00:40] <slickymaster> but I think you're right, Noskcaj. Do you know how many members of the team hold those rights
[00:40] <slickymaster> ?
[00:40] <Noskcaj> knome, If you want, but slickymaster does more triage than i do
[00:40] <knome> Noskcaj, i was only half serious :P
[00:40] <Noskcaj> And i'm guessing 0
[00:40] <slickymaster> well, being in -qa kind of leads me to it
[00:40] <knome> basically anybody who's interested should get that access, it isn't something that you need to do via xubuntu
[00:41] <Noskcaj> Although elfy and pleia can give themselves themselves access because CC
[00:41] <knome> some access is leaking to me too via various teams
[00:41] <slickymaster> don't they already have them?
[00:41] <knome> Pasi Lallinaho → Ubuntu Documentation Committers → Ubuntu Bug Control
[00:41] <slickymaster> I mean elfy and pleia2?
[00:41] <Noskcaj> maybe
[00:42] <knome> i'm not sure
[00:42] <knome> if they were wise, the CC was only the owner of certain teams, not a member
[00:42] <slickymaster> but that's something that could be looked into
[00:43] <knome> i guess they could grant themselves the access, but the whole point of the community stuff is that people do not do that, but actually earn the access
[00:44] <slickymaster> does that requires an active roll in the bug squad?
[00:44] <slickymaster> or there are other ways/teams?
[00:44] <knome> i guess you first have to prove you are a worthy triager
[00:44] <Noskcaj> slickymaster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[00:45] <knome> once you do that, you should get the membership and be in the team eternally
[00:45] <slickymaster> Noskcaj, yeah, I'aware of that
[00:45] <Noskcaj> just checking
[00:46] <slickymaster> knome, not exactly. I'm a member of the BugSquad team but I don't have those rights
[00:46] <knome> slickymaster, you need to be part of the bug control team to have *that*
[00:46] <knome> but basically it's just more of the same
[00:47] <knome> i should go to bed
[00:48] <slickymaster> me, too. I'l be up in about 4 hours to work
[00:48] <knome> heh
[00:48] <knome> night, and good luck ;)
[00:48] <slickymaster> tks. cy all tomorrow
[00:48] <slickymaster> hace a good night
[00:48] <slickymaster> have
[00:49] <Noskcaj> g'night slickymaster, knome
[00:49] <knome> night Noskcaj 
[00:49] <knome> (or day)
[00:49] <knome> ->
[00:49] <Noskcaj> midday
[00:49] <slickymaster> Noskcaj, cy
[02:23] <Unit193> Dang, and right when I need the P a s i and master of all slickiness.
[02:27] <Noskcaj> :)
[02:36] <Unit193> Does LP automatically pull the pot file in and update the po files with it or something?
[02:38] <Noskcaj> Depends on how you've set it up for a project
[02:45] <Unit193> Well, I updated the pot and po files...
[02:58] <Unit193> slickymaster: If you're crazy enough to read logs, not the intro is translated now: http://unit193.net/xubuntu/pt/
[03:05] <Unit193> PT is in the best of shape, of course.
[03:10] <Noskcaj> And now i'm in the bug control team, a whole 15 min after applying
[03:10] <Noskcaj> :)
[05:29] <Noskcaj> Guys, where's the upstream bugs/commits for the light-locker xflock4 fix?
[05:29] <Noskcaj> logan wants the in #ubuntu-devel
[06:40] <forestpiskie> Noskcaj: do you have any idea how much havoc could be wreaked by an elfy having anything to do with triage ... I am positive that you will find that pleia2 and I only appear to have them because CC owns the teams below it 
[06:41] <Noskcaj> ok
[06:51] <elfy> !team |did knome fix it yet :)
[06:51] <elfy> nope
[06:52]  * Unit193 knows someone likes that trigger...
[06:53] <elfy> I shall abuse the bot until the factoid is correct :p
[06:53] <Unit193> Fix what?
[06:54] <xnox> ochosi: knome: Noskcaj: i'm a DD so can sponsor things into debian as well. And well, when sponsoring packages i do review them and ask for things to be fixed up, i don't just blindly dput stuff.
[06:54]  * Unit193 notes that he should bother xnox about a QA upload. :P
[06:54] <Unit193> (Kidding.)
[06:55] <elfy> bad bad Unit193 
[06:55] <Noskcaj> xnox, Well i've got at least 50
[06:55] <elfy> I'd guess xnox is facepalming now ... :)
[06:57] <xnox> Noskcaj: if it's not on mentors.debian.net or not in http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ they don't count. And I did do a few of yours not so long ago.
[06:58] <Noskcaj> etm-qt in the PAPT, audicious* in pkg-multimedia, 10 in pkg gnome, 13 in mentors (a few aren't actually needing sponsoring there, but gambc really does),  24 in the sponsor queue
[06:58] <Noskcaj> that enough ;)
[06:58] <Noskcaj> Please do a few
[06:59] <Noskcaj> elfy, Why am i not in !team ? or the other two new guys
[07:00] <elfy> because XPL hasn't done it yet I guess - I'm on the hassling detail for that :)
[07:00] <elfy> it'll get done I'm sure :)
[07:00] <Unit193> elfy: At least I was kidding, though I need to find it nevertheless. :P
[07:00] <elfy> Unit193: find what?
[07:51] <elfy> ochosi: not got time to look further atm but - suspend seems to just locking - not going down - just cycling to login screen
[08:53] <TESTER> Hi, where are Xubuntu 12.04 Alternate Images to test?
[08:54] <TESTER> Sorry, of course 14.04!!!
[08:57] <ochosi> Noskcaj: when talking about uploads that others could do for us, please focus on those that we urgently need in 14.04
[08:57] <Noskcaj> TESTER, Sorry, only lubuntu, ubuntu-server, and netboot have alternate installs
[08:58] <ochosi> i.e. the three packages for indicators, etc
[08:58] <Noskcaj> ochosi, yeah. will do. I've got logan looking at xflock, he just wants an upstream bug(fix) or gt commit first
[08:59] <ochosi> Noskcaj: yeah, well that means it might take ages
[08:59] <Noskcaj> xnox, If you're still around, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/libxfce4ui/4.11/+merge/200196 is the highest priority merge
[08:59] <ochosi> but really, panel and indicators should be the first thing to go in imo
[08:59] <ochosi> yup, let's start with that
[09:01] <TESTER> 14.04 will be based on XFCE 4.11 ???
[09:01] <Noskcaj> TESTER, Parts of it
[09:01] <ochosi> xnox: thanks, i really appreciate that you don't just blindly dput stuff :) we'll try to only ask you for help where certain quality standards are met
[09:02] <ochosi> k, g2g, have a fun day everyone
[09:02] <Noskcaj> Yeah, i need sleep now. bye ochosi
[09:02] <TESTER> Noskcaj - so I have to use Lubuntu Iso and then install xfce-desktop (if there is such a thing) when I want to encrypt whole harddisk?
[09:02] <ochosi> elfy: i guess looking at the logs would be a good step here
[09:03] <TESTER> I have 4.12 runnig fine on 12.04 - is needed for multi monitor support, should be in 14.04
[09:33] <slickymaster> morning all
[12:39] <knome> the !team factoid is updated.
[12:52] <rowboatnick> !team
[12:52] <elfy> knome: thanks :)
[12:52] <knome> rowboatnick, well there was no reason to test it and poke everybody :P
[12:53] <rowboatnick> knome: i had to know :(
[12:53] <elfy> bad rowboatnick :)
[12:55] <knome> rowboatnick, /msg ubottu !team-#xubuntu-devel
[13:27] <lderan> \o/
[13:49] <jarnos> ochosi, as for light-locker, isn't the lightdm-gtk-greeter going to be too old in Trusty for it?
[13:59] <jarnos> ochosi, it might be good to have a mature xscreensaver bundled with Xubuntu; Lubuntu 13.10 uses the greeter in lxlock that is LXDE equivalent of xflock4, and it introduced a critical security bug that has still not been fixed in updates.
[14:00] <jarnos> brainwash, hi,  isn't the lightdm-gtk-greeter going to be too old for light-locker in Trusty?
[14:01] <brainwash> jarnos: no, trusty will ship with version 1.8 I think
[14:02] <jarnos> brainwash, so you can't trust http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=%20lightdm-gtk-greeter&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[14:02] <brainwash> well, it will be version 1.7.0 at least
[14:03] <brainwash> jarnos: trusty is still in development, many packages will be updated in the next months
[14:04] <brainwash> and version 1.7.0 has been released like 1(?) week ago
[14:07] <jarnos> ochosi, this is the bug with lxlock: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1205384
[14:08] <brainwash> still not fixed in the official repo?
[14:09] <brainwash> wow, a critical bug should be fixed asap
[14:11] <jarnos> brainwash, right
[14:14] <jarnos> brainwash, and the bug report was made more thant two months before release of Lubuntu 13.10! 
[14:17] <jarnos> brainwash, I don't know what they are thinking. It would be easy to modify lxlock as a workaround.
[14:22] <brainwash> jarnos: sad story, hopefully there will be a happy ending
[14:22] <brainwash> most users are not aware of this security issue :/
[14:26] <jarnos> brainwash, at least information about it was added (long after release) to release notes of Lubuntu 13.10, after I requested it.
[14:27] <jarnos> brainwash, but that does not help people that installed Lubuntu 13.10 before that.
[15:12] <ochosi> jarnos: this is exactly what light-locker fixes
[15:12] <ochosi> i told the lubuntu guys long ago
[15:12] <ochosi> bbl
[15:26] <brainwash> ochosi: so bug 1264563 won't be fixed in lightdm
[15:28] <brainwash> does the patch for lightdm-gtk-greeter break any functionality of the greeter? is it bad if the greeter checks for logged in users even on a fresh boot?
[15:28] <ochosi> brainwash: yes, i read, it's fine i'll take care of the greeter soon
[15:28] <brainwash> ok :)
[16:29] <slickymaster> bbl
[16:58] <jarnos> ochosi, in some cases I have ended up with situation where all displays remain blanked even if I move mouse, when I use light-locker from daily PPA.
[17:06] <brainwash> jarnos: did you try to switch to vt7 and back?
[17:09] <jarnos> brainwash, yes, but it didn't help. I had to reboot.
[17:10] <brainwash> so typing the password blindly did not work either?
[17:11] <brainwash> light-locker does not blank the screen, lightdm-gtk-greeter tells the X server to do so
[17:13] <brainwash> there might be error messages in your Xorg or lightdm log files
[17:13] <brainwash> /var/log/lightdm
[17:17] <elfy> oi/
[17:17] <jarnos> brainwash, you mean ERROR?
[17:26] <jarnos> brainwash, anyway, was using a laptop with (only) an external display enabled.
[17:28] <jarnos> brainwash, I did not notice any ERROR messages in recent logs at /var/log/lightdm
[17:36] <brainwash> jarnos: don't know what might cause this faulty behavior
[17:38] <brainwash> at least create a bug report and attach the greeter log files and so on
[17:39] <brainwash> the screen does not unblank after manual locking, right?
[17:39] <brainwash> try to reproduce it by running "dm-tool lock"
[18:04] <jarnos> brainwash, when I use it, it also blanks screen, doesn't respond to mouse, but Ctrl-Alt-F7 unlocks.
[18:11] <brainwash> jarnos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+filebug
[18:11] <brainwash> :P
[18:16] <jarnos> brainwash, maybe later, I am busy.
[18:27] <pmjdebru2jn> hi
[18:28] <pmjdebru2jn> is anybody here aware of anything special with regard to scrollbar theming on xubuntu?
[18:28] <pmjdebru2jn> I have an application of which scrollbars a differently themed on xubuntu than on ubuntu
[18:28] <pmjdebru2jn> and the application explicitly loads it's own clearlooks based theme 
[18:28] <pmjdebru2jn> (special purpose app)
[18:29] <brainwash> ubuntu/unity uses overlay scrollbars
[18:30] <brainwash> special purpose app? sounds mysterious
[18:31] <ochosi> hey pmjdebru2jn 
[18:31] <ochosi> there's nothing special happening really
[18:31] <ochosi> our themes use murrine's gtk-scrollbar theming in gtk2 and the default engine in gtk3
[18:32] <pmjdebru2jn> I know about the overlay stuff, but that's not what I meant
[18:32] <pmjdebru2jn> even with overlay scrollbars disabled, it looks like I'd expect on ubuntu
[18:32] <pmjdebru2jn> in xubuntu the scrollbars are recessed
[18:32] <ochosi> if you need help and it should remain secret feel free to PM me with more specifics
[18:33] <pmjdebru2jn> app = darktable (for photography, so it has a dark neutral theme)
[18:33] <pmjdebru2jn> I guess I should upload some screenshots
[18:34] <ochosi> yeah, that'd be helpful
[18:35] <ochosi> but i can also install it and see what's going on
[18:35] <ochosi> i suspect it's a problem of the combination of your rc-files in darktable and options we set in out themes
[18:38] <ochosi> what version of darktable are we talking about and what would be the most straightforward way to get it in 13.10?
[18:38] <pmjdebru2jn> oh
[18:38] <pmjdebru2jn> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pmjdebruijn/darktable-unstable :D
[18:39] <pmjdebru2jn> my ppas are the official project ppas :)
[18:40] <ochosi> thought so :)
[18:40] <ochosi> i presume we're talking gtk2?
[18:41] <pmjdebru2jn> yes
[18:41] <pmjdebru2jn> indeed
[18:41] <pmjdebru2jn> we mostly use clearlooks
[18:41] <pmjdebru2jn> gtk2-engines
[18:41] <pmjdebru2jn> the basic theme is a modified version from something from art.gnome.org, which someone else modified
[18:41] <pmjdebru2jn> and now I'm fiddling with it
[18:41] <pmjdebru2jn> :)
[18:42] <pmjdebru2jn> practically it's fine, but cosmetically it's a bit ugly on xubuntu now
[18:45] <ochosi> yeah, but xubuntu doesn't have clearlooks installed by default
[18:45] <pmjdebru2jn> initially I though it was the shadow-type thing, but that's set to GTK_SHADOW_NONE
[18:45] <ochosi> just for starters
[18:45] <pmjdebru2jn> ochosi: the package pulls in gtk2-engines
[18:45] <ochosi> oh, you install it
[18:45] <ochosi> yeah, just saw it
[18:46] <ochosi> why not just modify the colors?
[18:46] <ochosi> is it really necessary to modify the whole theme looks?
[18:46] <pmjdebru2jn> not per-se
[18:46] <pmjdebru2jn> well
[18:46] <pmjdebru2jn> then again
[18:46] <ochosi> would make the looks of darktable more integrated
[18:46] <ochosi> (is my first thought)
[18:46] <pmjdebru2jn> the more we leave to chance, the more can go wrong
[18:46] <pmjdebru2jn> ochosi: we don't want to look integrated
[18:47] <pmjdebru2jn> we have lots of custom widgets too
[18:47] <pmjdebru2jn> so by itself looking "integrated" really isn't a concern
[18:47] <pmjdebru2jn> it's basically just another vector for unexpected issues
[18:47] <ochosi> right, i understand
[18:48] <ochosi> so, i see the scrollbars now
[18:48] <ochosi> what seems to be the issue?
[18:48] <ochosi> or: how should they look?
[18:50] <pmjdebru2jn> there's an extra sunk in bevel around the scrollbars at the sides
[18:51] <pmjdebru2jn> when I do export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0
[18:51] <pmjdebru2jn> they are not there on ubuntu
[18:52] <pmjdebru2jn> you do see what I mean right?
[19:08] <ochosi> pmjdebru2jn: extra sunk bevel? you mean the scrollbar trough?
[19:09] <ochosi> i guess i should load some pics in...
[19:10] <pmjdebru2jn> ochosi: the scrollbars are forced on at the sides
[19:10] <ochosi> yeah, i see them there
[19:11] <ochosi> they're a bit bulky
[19:11] <ochosi> and there's no visible trough
[19:11] <ochosi> do you have a screener of what it should look like?
[19:12] <pmjdebru2jn> let me make one
[19:12] <ochosi> thanks
[19:12] <ochosi> that'd be helpful
[19:15] <pmjdebru2jn> https://encrypted.pcode.nl/files/temp/dt-ubuntu.png
[19:15] <ochosi> ok, the reason is simple
[19:15] <ochosi> now that i see it :)
[19:16] <ochosi> where is your rc file, then i can try to quickly patch it
[19:17] <pmjdebru2jn> /usr/share/darktable/darktable.gtkrc
[19:22] <ochosi> pmjdebru2jn: this should fix your issue mostly: http://dpaste.com/1539527/
[19:22] <ochosi> there could be more to fix, but try that first and lemme know whether that's what you expected
[19:23] <pmjdebru2jn> ah cool, let me look
[19:28] <pmjdebru2jn> ochosi: I don't think that makes a difference over here
[19:28] <ochosi> are you sure?
[19:28] <ochosi> that's weird
[19:29] <pmjdebru2jn> insert at line 28 right?
[19:29] <ochosi> well the line number doesn't matter really
[19:29] <pmjdebru2jn> those property are button related?
[19:29] <pmjdebru2jn> aren't they?
[19:29] <ochosi> this is about overruling the theme deactivating the scrollbar steppers
[19:29] <ochosi> cause that's all that really happens
[19:30] <ochosi> if you use bluebird for example, that problem shouldn't occur
[19:30] <ochosi> (just to quickly test)
[19:30] <ochosi> or use albatross
[19:30] <ochosi> those themes don't deactivate the steppers, so things should look normal
[19:31] <pmjdebru2jn> ah it's fine with albatross indeed
[20:14] <Unit193> How about that, gtk2 indicator lands.
[20:17] <brainwash> so now we only need the patched power manager and saucy will be ready for release :P
[20:19] <brainwash> Unit193: do you plan to keep your Xfce PPA up-to-date?
[20:19] <brainwash> xfwm4 + xfdesktop
[20:19] <Unit193> brainwash: I don't see why not, but note that it's the tabwin branch, not xfwm/master.
[20:21] <brainwash> yeah, your PPA is great for testing recent fixes and the seamless background transition
[20:21] <brainwash> tabwin won't be ready for trusty, or?
[20:23] <Unit193> It'd be ready, but perhaps not merged.
[21:19] <Noskcaj> Just wondering, can't forestpiskie  sponsor stuff for us because Community Council gives access to core-dev?
[21:23] <Unit193> Not without major abuse of power.
[21:24] <Unit193> He also won't because he doesn't touch voodoo.
[21:25] <slickymaster> night all
[21:26] <Noskcaj> hey slickymaster
[21:26] <slickymaster> hey Noskcaj 
[21:27] <Noskcaj> So i'l in bug control now.
[21:27] <Noskcaj> *i'm
[21:27] <slickymaster> great
[21:27] <slickymaster> but do you mean bug sqaud?
[21:27] <Noskcaj> Now i just need one of the admins to actually put me in the team
[21:28] <Noskcaj> bugcontrol = can set priority and target release
[21:28] <slickymaster> Noskcaj, isn't bug control a restricted team?
[21:29] <Noskcaj> slickymaster, yeah
[21:29] <Noskcaj> I applied yesterday and got the required number of +1s
[21:29] <slickymaster> that's great, we sure need some more members with those rights
[21:32] <slickymaster> Noskcaj, you can ping bdmurray on that
[21:32] <Noskcaj> I don't have time now, but i will
[21:32] <slickymaster> great
[22:15] <brainwash> can anyone verify that the proposed xfce4-terminal package works in saucy? bug 1206739
[22:16] <brainwash> looks like the package is stuck in proposed since 2013-11-12