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Darkwing | It's -14F right now with a wind chill of -34F. Thats -25C and -39C | 01:38 |
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valorie | yikes, Darkwing | 02:27 |
valorie | coldest I've ever experienced here was 4 degrees F | 02:28 |
valorie | in Wyoming I think when we were there, it was -10, which is pretty cold | 02:28 |
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apachelogger | jussi: can't reproduce | 03:24 |
apachelogger | !find dnssd/publicservice.h | 04:20 |
ubottu | File dnssd/publicservice.h found in kdelibs5-dev | 04:20 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug 1071787 might want an executive decision in addition to being moved around? :P | 04:22 |
ubottu | bug 1071787 in bluedevil (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu does not 'remember' that Bluetooth was switched off" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071787 | 04:22 |
apachelogger | it simply takes half a day to get through bug mails of a weekend -.- | 04:37 |
kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1204182] setlocale.sh can break user-chosen locales and encodings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1204182 (by Graeme Hewson) | 05:00 |
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kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1265897] 14.04 Alpha-1 Plasma Netbook Interface has no Web Browser favorite @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1265897 (by Marco Parillo) | 05:25 |
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kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1263441] Typo in dependency of plasma-desktop package @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1263441 (by Sergey Basalaev) | 07:34 |
kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1265897] 14.04 Alpha-1 Plasma Netbook Interface has no Web Browser favorite @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1265897 (by Marco Parillo) | 07:34 |
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soee | good morning | 08:40 |
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Peace- | Riddell: sometimes kubuntu just freeze using 100% of cpu 13.10 | 10:30 |
Peace- | after some upgrade | 10:30 |
Peace- | before worked fine | 10:30 |
Peace- | after 1 sec it work fine again | 10:33 |
Peace- | works | 10:33 |
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Riddell | Peace-: um, wibble | 11:04 |
Riddell | hard to debug that sort of problem | 11:04 |
Riddell | should I start a new kubuntu-ppa/frameworks PPA for kf5 packages? | 11:32 |
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jussi | Riddell: should it not go into experimental? | 11:37 |
Riddell | mm yeah I guess it could | 11:38 |
Riddell | !newversion skanlite 1.1 | 11:42 |
ubottu | Riddell: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 11:42 |
Riddell | hmm | 11:42 |
Riddell | kubotu: newversion skanlite 1.1 | 11:42 |
kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1266736 | 11:42 |
Riddell | good boy | 11:42 |
Riddell | ScottK: hey look what's just appeared https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdebindings/python/pykde5/repository | 11:43 |
mitya57 | Mmm, I like that, though it looks quite empty for now | 11:49 |
Riddell | ScottK: give him a chance, he's only been working on it for 2 days and the libraries that he's binding aren't even released :) | 11:50 |
Riddell | mitya57: rather ↑ | 11:50 |
mitya57 | :) | 11:51 |
mitya57 | And yes, please push KF5 to experimental if possible, we have a much less broken Qt5 there than in Trusty | 11:51 |
lordievader | Good afternoon. | 11:56 |
Riddell | mitya57: which experimental are you talking about? I'm talking about kubuntu-ppa/experimental | 11:58 |
mitya57 | Oh, of course about different ones :) | 11:59 |
Riddell | although it might well need the qt from the other experimental | 12:00 |
mitya57 | Right, I think some of frameworks need 5.2 | 12:00 |
mitya57 | But you can depend on canonical-qt-edgers PPA | 12:01 |
mitya57 | Right, according to http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building#Qt_5 it needs 5.2 | 12:02 |
ScottK | mitya57: Any idea when it's going to get updated? | 13:06 |
Riddell | mitya57: lots of PPAs to chose from, which one do I want? https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers | 13:06 |
mitya57 | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta2/+packages | 13:07 |
ScottK | Riddell: I'd have thought Trusty would be updated by now. Possibly time to harass somebody. | 13:07 |
mitya57 | ScottK: not before all FTBFS in that PPA are fixed... | 13:07 |
mitya57 | List of packages that need to be built before Qt is updated is: http://pad.ubuntu.com/qt52-dependencies | 13:09 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:20 |
* Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2014/01/07/frameworks-5-tech-preview-here | 13:23 | |
Riddell | apachelogger: how come you decided not to use camel case for phonon4qt5 ? | 16:15 |
apachelogger | Riddell: libphonon wasn't camelcased | 16:16 |
Riddell | apachelogger: mm, but why? | 16:17 |
apachelogger | Riddell: because libphonon wasn't camelcased :P | 16:19 |
apachelogger | libphonon.so vs. libPhonon.so vs. libphonon4qt5.so vs. libPhonon4Qt5.so | 16:19 |
Riddell | aah, that explains it | 16:19 |
Riddell | just wondering what to do with attica | 16:19 |
apachelogger | what's the problem there? | 16:19 |
Riddell | needs to be renamed for qt5 version | 16:20 |
Riddell | wondering if I should camelcase it | 16:20 |
apachelogger | ^ perhaps a sobump is more appropriate | 16:20 |
Riddell | naturally I'm inspired by the work of phonon | 16:20 |
Riddell | sobump still leaves it with overlapping -dev files | 16:20 |
Riddell | which many packagers dislike | 16:20 |
apachelogger | that's why gnome stuff usually installs to /usr/include/foo-1 | 16:20 |
Riddell | hi sgclark | 16:26 |
Riddell | ahoneybun_: I think sgclark needs some direction on how to get into helping, do you have a project in the docs to do? | 16:27 |
sgclark | Riddell: hello | 16:27 |
sgclark | sorry update needs a reboot, I will be back shortly | 16:33 |
Riddell | sgclark: update go ok? | 16:36 |
sgclark | Riddell: so far so good | 16:37 |
Riddell | sgclark: have you scanned the trello todo list? | 16:38 |
sgclark | Riddell: not in awhile, will go take a look | 16:39 |
apachelogger | Riddell: oh, about your mail to the list as well... either a distro should be able to specify a prefix (e.g. as we did with kdelibs ... includes to $prefix/include/kde4 rather than $prefix/include .. might not be too nice for frameworks) or the gnome way libfoo-1 again | 16:42 |
apachelogger | I am reasonable certain expect for the prefix trick kdelibs5 also had include conflicts with kdelibs4 | 16:42 |
Riddell | apachelogger: is there anything in the neon packages I should be borrowing for the proper kf5 packages? | 16:51 |
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apachelogger | Riddell: dependency information in lp:~neon/project-neon5/recipes may help | 16:52 |
apachelogger | otherwise there isn't much neon5 is doing in general | 16:52 |
sgclark | Riddell: II am reviewing pages on userbase, unclear on how to pursue any of the other items sorry | 17:01 |
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apachelogger | and another new silly desktop entry from kdepim | 19:39 |
apachelogger | lovely | 19:39 |
sgclark | Anyone on the docs team availabe? | 19:58 |
ahoneybun_ | hello | 20:01 |
sgclark | hello | 20:02 |
ahoneybun_ | I saw your trello posts | 20:02 |
ahoneybun_ | just about to reply | 20:02 |
sgclark | oh ok no problem, is that the correct place to ask questions? | 20:02 |
ahoneybun_ | yea | 20:02 |
ahoneybun_ | I'm thankful for the feedback | 20:03 |
ahoneybun_ | we all are | 20:03 |
sgclark | cool, I am fixing formatting links etc on the userbase | 20:03 |
ahoneybun_ | awesome | 20:03 |
sgclark | I have done alot of wiki work for KDE itself so I am aware of the way they like it for translations etc | 20:03 |
ahoneybun_ | ok first the USC can be installed but by default in the 13.10 release we use Muon Software Center | 20:04 |
ahoneybun_ | and in 14.04 Muon Discover is going to the default GUI software installer | 20:04 |
sgclark | ok, so I will rewrite to let them know they will need to install if they want | 20:04 |
sgclark | ok | 20:04 |
ahoneybun_ | great that you have that exp with the translations | 20:04 |
ahoneybun_ | that will be the next main goal | 20:05 |
ahoneybun_ | after everything is fixed up and checked in english | 20:05 |
sgclark | yeah, it is a slow process so I am adding the tags now so they will start | 20:05 |
ahoneybun_ | your fixing the tag? | 20:06 |
ahoneybun_ | s | 20:06 |
sgclark | I am adding as I review the pages, trust me , you want the translations to start ASAP | 20:06 |
sgclark | yes | 20:06 |
ahoneybun_ | I'm going to work on the catorgies | 20:07 |
sgclark | I fixed that | 20:07 |
ahoneybun_ | the KubuntuDoc13.10 catorgory is still there | 20:08 |
sgclark | oh right, one of my questions, do you agree? | 20:09 |
sgclark | Otherwise you will end up with a ton of duplicate info every release | 20:09 |
ahoneybun_ | yea maybe just KubuntuDoc, and Kubuntu catorgies? | 20:09 |
sgclark | I think Kubuntu is sufficient | 20:10 |
sgclark | Create a new page for release notes | 20:10 |
ahoneybun_ | subpage of Kubuntu? | 20:14 |
ahoneybun_ | btw did you post that screenshot on the welcome page | 20:15 |
ahoneybun_ | ? | 20:15 |
sgclark | I did, feel free to replace it, did not know if you have official screenshots | 20:15 |
ahoneybun_ | yea I just think having a vanilla one would be better so a new user would not wonder why theirs do not look alike but we can move it to the theme section of that page/ | 20:18 |
sgclark | sounds good. I can make a vanilla VM for screenies | 20:18 |
ahoneybun_ | sgclark: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Basic#Desktop_Customization | 20:20 |
sgclark | btw I am trying to download daily-live and I get a 404 | 20:20 |
ahoneybun_ | I don't know about that | 20:22 |
sgclark | looks good, I just centered the image | 20:23 |
ahoneybun_ | cool | 20:24 |
ahoneybun_ | hey SonikkuAmerica | 20:37 |
SonikkuAmerica | Hello, what's up? | 20:37 |
SonikkuAmerica | I'm still building the page. | 20:37 |
ahoneybun_ | the page | 20:38 |
ahoneybun_ | ? | 20:38 |
SonikkuAmerica | Oh! I didn't tell you about your new one-page landing. | 20:39 |
SonikkuAmerica | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/KubuntuLinks <<< What I have so far... | 20:39 |
ahoneybun_ | oh yea that | 20:41 |
ahoneybun_ | I heard it from valorie | 20:41 |
ahoneybun_ | looks great | 20:41 |
Sput | apachelogger: transferring the db since 21:00, which means that all backlog from then until the new core is up will be lost | 20:44 |
manchicken | Ooh, SonikkuAmerica, that's cool. | 20:44 |
manchicken | SonikkuAmerica: Do you have the G+ link and all of that fun stuff? | 20:44 |
SonikkuAmerica | I will have that stuff under Social | 20:44 |
manchicken | There's a @kubuntu twitter account, but there's nothing there. | 20:45 |
ahoneybun_ | I handle the Kubuntu Documentation page on G+ | 20:48 |
ahoneybun_ | I have a Kubuntu+ page on there as well | 20:48 |
ahoneybun_ | https://plus.google.com/b/112490706514003921722/ | 20:50 |
SonikkuAmerica | Ummm... Kubuntu's Facebook page is in French? | 20:55 |
SonikkuAmerica | https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kubuntu/534456569914164 | 20:55 |
shadeslayer | I'm sure agateau appreciates that | 20:56 |
SonikkuAmerica | :) | 20:57 |
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sgclark | anyone available to point me to packaging help? As in a How-to? | 23:25 |
shadeslayer | hi sgclark | 23:26 |
Quintasan | sgclark: This is an rather unfortunate hour I think since it's past midnight everywhere in Europe | 23:26 |
Quintasan | well | 23:26 |
Quintasan | and there comes shadeslayer | 23:26 |
Quintasan | xD | 23:26 |
sgclark | no problem I can ask tomorrow | 23:26 |
Quintasan | sgclark: First of all, you need tools | 23:27 |
Quintasan | pbuilder is one of them | 23:27 |
Quintasan | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment | 23:27 |
shadeslayer | I've had about ~80% of a bottle of wine | 23:27 |
shadeslayer | so don't trust me | 23:27 |
shadeslayer | but IIRC there's http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ | 23:27 |
Quintasan | tools first | 23:27 |
shadeslayer | okie | 23:27 |
Quintasan | Here is how to obtain a basic build environment for Kubuntu magic sgclark | 23:27 |
* shadeslayer is going to head to bed in some time | 23:28 | |
Quintasan | sgclark: read that through and ask if you have any questions as for the set up | 23:28 |
sgclark | ok, will start there, thanks! | 23:28 |
* shadeslayer goes back to fiddling with TURN ports | 23:28 | |
Quintasan | as for the tool itself, pbuilder is a tool that automates building packages in a clean environment using chroots | 23:29 |
sgclark | 100GB large enough? or do I need to increase the VM | 23:29 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: should be enough | 23:29 |
shadeslayer | whee, pbuilderrc is all blue | 23:29 |
Quintasan | nah, 100GB should be fine | 23:29 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: how goes uni | 23:38 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: fighting with scala | 23:39 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: coming to FOSDEM? | 23:40 |
Quintasan | when and where is it? | 23:40 |
shadeslayer | Brussels, 1-2nd Jan | 23:41 |
shadeslayer | http://fosdem.org/ | 23:41 |
Quintasan | You mean February? | 23:42 |
Quintasan | Yes, more like it | 23:43 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: Can we get monies from council or sth? | 23:43 |
* shadeslayer rages | 23:45 | |
Quintasan | lol | 23:46 |
shadeslayer | stupid turn server )(*#&*^%#$ | 23:47 |
shadeslayer | k sleep | 23:50 |
yofel | nini | 23:50 |
Quintasan | laters shadeslayer | 23:50 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: see you at FOSDEM | 23:50 |
shadeslayer | yofel: you're coming as well right | 23:50 |
yofel | I didn't really intend to... | 23:52 |
yofel | though maybe I should just go to take the LPIC1 exam for fun ^^ | 23:52 |
shadeslayer | ^^ | 23:52 |
yofel | last I looked at the topics I knew like half of it.. | 23:53 |
valorie | you could work in the kde booth with Riddell | 23:53 |
shadeslayer | tbh looks like it's outdated http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/programs/lpic-1/exam-101 | 23:53 |
valorie | or the desktop dev room | 23:53 |
* shadeslayer is going to oscillate between desktop dev and mozilla rooms | 23:54 | |
valorie | lots goes on at fosdem; I hope to go someday | 23:54 |
shadeslayer | and the KDE booth | 23:54 |
yofel | shadeslayer: not as long as we're talking 'bout RHEL ;P | 23:54 |
shadeslayer | :D | 23:54 |
* shadeslayer still has 2 gulps of wine left | 23:55 | |
valorie | did you see http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html ? | 23:55 |
shadeslayer | I have not | 23:56 |
yofel | so... the RH based OS becomes more RH based or am I misunderstanding something...? | 23:57 |
valorie | sounds like mostly they are moving infra | 23:58 |
valorie | and some employees will work for redhat | 23:58 |
yofel | ack | 23:58 |
shadeslayer | I wonder what that means for fedora | 23:59 |
shadeslayer | because I always viewed fedora as like a test ground for RH | 23:59 |
shadeslayer | *RHEL | 23:59 |
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