[05:03] Maaz: tell Kilos wake up sleepy head [05:03] superfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [05:19] hmm, happy new year? [05:19] hallo oom Kilos [05:19] morning superfly nuvolari [05:19] lo superfly, charl_ [05:19] als van die beste seun [05:21] dankie oom Kilos :) Mag oom ook 'n goeie 2014 hê [05:21] Morning everyone [05:21] baie dankie. jy het nou goed begin hier , nou moenie weer begin verdwyn nie [05:21] hi bduk1 [05:22] Hoe gaan dit vanmore? [05:22] heel goed en daar? [05:23] oh hi bduk1 [05:24] Kilos: ek kan niks belowe nie oom :-/ moet alreeds werk inhaal :( [05:24] grrrr [05:24] en ek kry nie my stoel se sit reg nie :-/ [05:25] ai! [05:25] iemand het rondgevoeter [05:25] en my muis voel nie dieselfde nie [05:25] en die internet is stadig [05:25] :O [05:25] lol [05:41] hi kbmonkey [05:42] morning [05:47] hi Squirm [05:47] oh hi kbmonkey_ [05:47] happy new year [05:48] oh hi Squirm [05:48] nuvolari, didnt he netsplit by you as well [05:48] * kbmonkey has quit (*.net *.split) [05:52] yeah, but he's still present with a stertjie [05:52] oh ya [05:52] but shows afk here [05:52] hey there nuvolari [05:56] more ddos today methinks [05:57] what these kids need is not to be blocked but traced and locked up for a while to make them realise everything is a two way street [06:02] instead of using their knowlege for good they cause havoc for others [06:02] grrrr [06:32] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:47] morning :) [06:51] :) [06:52] hi inetpro werk jou mengsel vir die spinnekop? [07:07] goeie more oom, het nog nie weer gaan kyk nie [07:08] * inetpro is terug in die saal en dinge gaan maar rof [07:09] AARG! [07:18] check Jono is looking to get App Dev schools in the Locos: http://www.jonobacon.org/2014/01/06/ubuntu-loco-team-app-dev-schools-volunteers-needed/ [07:18] hi Vince-0 [07:20] oh and good morning to everyone else as well [07:20] sjoe [07:21] hi Vince-0 [07:28] surp [07:50] wbb wanna try and see if the 2 x 1g ram cards still clash now that things are stable here [08:03] amazing the diffs an extra 512m ram makes in speed [08:04] only the bios seems the same [08:16] good morning [08:16] Maaz: coffee on [08:16] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:16] hi Kilos [08:16] hi Vince-0, inetpro [08:16] hi charl_ [08:17] Maaz, coffee please [08:17] Kilos: Okay [08:17] Maaz, large [08:17] In a beer mug just for you Kilos [08:17] lol [08:17] charl! [08:18] don't have any gosh darned milk in this gosh darned office === charl_ is now known as charl [08:19] that sucks Vince-0 [08:19] Maaz, with cremora [08:19] Ah! At last someone with taste [08:19] you want to make a caffe latte? [08:19] Maaz, and milk [08:19] Now you're talking [08:19] i only drink my coffee black and bitter, unless i take a cappuccino on the occasion [08:20] Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! [08:20] Maaz: thanks [08:20] charl: No problem [08:20] Maaz, danke [08:20] Bitteschön [08:20] our maid did his work again, even though he doesn't wear a cute maid outfit [08:21] lol [08:21] have you heard about the mcdonalds in taiwan? [08:21] first they got their staff to wear maid outfits, then dress as schoolgirls, and the latest is nurses [08:22] ai! [08:23] one of my friends is in china right now, he sent me a picture of a bunch of maids somewhere in a shopping mall [08:23] maids used to be a japanese thing but now it seems like it is getting popular all over asia [09:00] we gotta make a plan and get more ubuntu women here [09:01] they can come chat about recipes [09:01] and geek things of course [09:31] hey henkj_ [09:32] hey Squirm === henkj_ is now known as henkj [09:34] almost thought I'd lost my nickname [09:35] tried to identify and my password didn't work [09:35] many underscores in this channel actually [09:36] ohi henkj [09:36] hi Kilos [09:39] are there still ubuntu things happening in cape town? [09:40] well there might be a release party in april but i dunno if the guys down there have time anymore === georgl_ is now known as georgl [09:49] hi psyatw georgl [09:51] hi Kilos [10:40] oh yes i see what i will be doing in february [10:40] firstly: https://fosdem.org/2014/ [10:41] and then, perhaps secondly: http://cfgmgmtcamp.eu/ [10:41] hi psyatw [10:41] hi henkj [10:41] hi charl [10:41] hi charl [10:41] hi henkj [10:57] whow i can get to brussels cheaply over the weekend [10:57] i pay about 20 euro to get to roosendaal en then another 30 euro to get to brussels and back [10:58] so i can do the whole trip in under 50 euro [10:58] although, if i take the earlier train, it will be a little more expensive, but probably worth it [13:45] interesting, seems like they took the mandatory microsoft account registration out of windows 8.1 === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle2 [14:29] hehe [14:47] :O amper huistoe-tyd [15:41] hmm... [15:44] Maaz, seen tumbleweed [15:44] Kilos: tumbleweed was last seen 14 days, 20 hours, 33 minutes and 40 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-12-23 21:11:01 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2014-01-05 22:42:00 SAST [15:45] goodness me === spinza_ is now known as spinza [17:55] Kilos: the wind probably swept him to some remote island [17:55] lol [17:55] ive already forgotten what i wanted to ask him [17:56] ohi tumbleweed where are you? [18:01] sigh late night again [18:14] Kilos: home [18:14] how are things? [18:15] yay wb tumbleweed [18:15] we all good here ty [18:15] happy new year [18:15] you too [18:15] wb tumbleweed [18:15] * tumbleweed scored food poisening for new year :/ [18:15] ouch [18:15] eish! [18:15] all over now [18:15] what did you eat? [18:16] a braai on new year's eve [18:16] poisoning [18:16] no idea what it was. could have been the wors [18:16] chicken? [18:16] nope, none [18:16] wow food poisoning from a braai [18:16] hmm [18:16] I know :P [18:17] maybe some of the pork fat in the wors was off [18:17] dont buy wors from the same place again [18:18] that was my local spar, but it had been in the fridge a couple of days [18:19] well at least you over it now and learned a lesson [18:19] :) [18:20] was the trip a success? [18:20] you were gone forever [18:20] heh, just a month [18:20] but I might move [18:20] to where? [18:21] then you gonna become like the crash kid and just look after a bot? [18:21] san francisco [18:22] well if thats where the money is then why not [18:22] but dont start ignoring us hey. [18:23] still working with ubuntu or not? [18:23] the money is here two, but there are so many more thnigs there [18:23] too [18:23] like? [18:25] so many more places to work [18:25] aha well good luck with whatever you decide to do [18:25] thanks [18:26] and please dont forget us [18:26] hmmm interesting [18:26] just now there is only fly pro nuvo and i left [18:26] i considered moving to silicon valley back in 2007 [18:26] but what kept me back is that silican valley is located in the US [18:26] where you have no right to anything [18:26] that's the only thing that stopped me [18:27] hi nlsthzn [18:27] hello all [18:27] good morning nlsthzn [18:27] hi nlsthzn wb my man [18:27] * nlsthzn has the flu :'( [18:27] hi inetpro [18:28] been in bed for most of the last three days [18:28] morning ?! [18:28] oh hi charl [18:28] ouch [18:28] charl: he just woke up from nowhere [18:28] lol [18:28] >.> [18:28] so how has everyone been? [18:29] i'm doing well [18:29] we been good here ty [18:29] awesome [18:29] charl: yeah, I've resisted the US for a while [18:29] but I think a change of scenery would suit me right now [18:29] sometimes you need that [18:29] just don't turn into a real american :P [18:30] don't forget where you came from [18:30] yeah, doubt I would [18:31] it helps that america hates foreigners [18:31] just when I was looking at other pastures I find that all of my certificates etc. have gone missing >.< [18:31] oh my nlsthzn [18:31] was updating my CV and went looking for them and nothing... [18:31] tumbleweed: ah that's good news [18:31] not a single one left :/ [18:31] where were they nlsthzn ? [18:32] how can they disappear [18:32] in my PC room until a few months ago... I hope they didn't land in the wrong pile when spring cleaning some months ago [18:32] that would sucl [18:32] *suck [18:32] ouch [18:32] you must have records on the pc [18:33] tumbleweed: did you notice our new meeting date? [18:33] moved to Tuesdays [18:34] oh ya you too nlsthzn 28th [18:34] I am sure I can re-apply for the most important ones... but that can take a long time to come [18:34] meeting the 28th? [18:34] yes\ [18:34] every 4th Tuesday of the month [18:36] and we have an interesting topic up for discussion [18:36] superfly, did you put your suggestion in the agenda? [18:36] The current state of Internet in South Africa by superfly [18:36] oh sorry inetpro [18:36] Kilos: it's there [18:36] ooyay [18:37] also we gotta work a way to get more ubuntu women here [18:37] i give up with the list peeps [18:37] reading an interesting book where the author looks at the boom in africa going online via mobile at a rapid rate and how this is effecting africa ... [18:37] awesome read [18:38] nlsthzn: what book is that? [18:39] http://hintjens.com/books Culture and Empire [18:39] free ebook [18:40] that isn't the main focus of the book but it touches on the subject [18:41] something you guys might enjoy to look through - https://github.com/vhf/free-programming-books/blob/master/free-programming-books.md [18:41] nice [18:48] that was odd [18:50] nlsthzn has quit (*.net *.split) [18:51] yup, thought as much :p [18:51] been probs again last few days [19:13] sup [19:13] temps [19:14] you use joomla Symmetria ? [19:14] lol why is it that in kenya I managed to get cable internet installed in my house on the same day I ordered it with 20megabit uncapped unshaped for R1k ZAR a month complete with 98 tv channels [19:14] but I can't get the same in south africa [19:14] (I put it in a temp solution while I wait for my fiber) [19:14] slack in za [19:14] nope dont use joomla [19:15] heh, waiting for my fiber at home, they must hurry up but could take 3 weeks to get wayleaves [19:15] have you an idea on how to get in if the passwd has been changed? [19:15] there is no rush in za [19:15] just mail the local bossman [19:16] kilos no idea [19:16] heh, dude, even if you get it installed in za [19:16] you're gonna pay more than double [19:16] 10meg uncapped in za if you include the price of phone line, dsl connection and isp account is more than a grand [19:16] like hod of the govt there then they mail down the list and last oke moves [19:16] and doesnt ahve any tv channels on it or anything [19:16] ouch [19:17] join our meet on the 28th and give us bright ideas [19:18] gonna be a za internet discussion [19:18] heh tomorrow I need to fix our latencies from uganda to south africa across the continent and then our gaming server will be pretty much ready to go :) [19:18] that will fix gaming al over the continent [19:18] and Ive got meetings tomorrow about buying mirror servers [19:18] mirror servers that make the old mirror.ac.za look like a joke [19:19] 256gig of ram, quad 8 core cpu, 200 terabytes of high speed equilogix disk space [19:19] wow [19:20] when i was in kenya back in 2011 i also was really impressed [19:20] the kenyans want to move forward, not like the south africans that just want to milk the last drop of blood from the telecoms industry [19:20] i was shocked about how good the internet was in kenya compared to south africa at the time [19:20] heh charl we're launching a 100mbit to the home product shortly [19:20] i went to kenya just coming from south africa back in august 2011 [19:21] we'll also be launching a 20meg uncapped service for like 700 bux a month [19:21] thats fiber to the home based [19:21] 700 kenyan shillings? [19:21] nah rand [19:21] kenya works in rand? [19:21] nah I converted :) [19:21] lol [19:21] 700 kenyan shillings is practically nothing [19:21] hehehe nah I did the conversion [19:21] if i remember correctly at the time it was 100 shillings to the euro [19:21] its about 6000 ksh [19:21] to 700 rand [19:22] ah, yeah that sounds more logical [19:22] well if i look at what i am paying right now - 60 euro per month for a 150 mbps connection [19:22] then kenya is not far behind [19:22] although, i should say, i have high quality bandwidth with a very low ping, and it never goes down [19:23] i have not seen it go down in more than 2 years [19:23] heh Im cheating and pulling in a point of presence into my house so I can serve my neighbors ;p [19:23] which gives me 2 x 10G fibers into my study ;p [19:23] * Symmetria laughs [19:23] nice, why not [19:23] a lot of people used to host stuff in their basements in the early years of the internet everywhere [19:24] i have even seen photos from some closets in japan back in the early 90s [19:24] back in 2004 i started working for an isp in south africa where we had fibre running into my office, i had a PoP standing right behind my desk [19:24] at the time that was a big deal [19:25] heh my damn tv is busy updating its firmware off the internet and it must hurry up so I can go to bed, but its a ridiculously huge download the tv is doing [19:25] like 1.2 gig in tv firmware wtf [19:25] night all [19:25] how is that even possible [19:25] thats larger than a ubuntu linux server cd [19:25] nlsthzn: have a good one! [19:25] nlsthzn: and get better !!! :) [19:25] charl lol, these samsung smart tvs are well... pretty smart :) [19:25] thx [19:25] apparently :) [19:26] i use my computer as a smart tv, i just connect a nice large external lcd/led edge lit screen [19:26] charl lol yeah but there is something about a 60" display that can stream stuff directly off plex servers and other things that rocks [19:26] all of the tv i watch is iptv in any case, just play it with html5/flash/vlc [19:26] charl heh, plex server is what I use, with plex client installed on tv [19:26] plex > * [19:27] was just googling it now [19:27] looks very nice [19:27] http://www.alstonnetworks.net/temp/screens.jpg [19:27] you can see the tv there running plex [19:28] heh nice setup [19:28] although my neck would get strain with so many screens [19:28] heh was upgraded since I took that photo, I replaced the 2 left hand screens with the same ones that are on the right hand side [19:28] i use two at the moment at work but the person from arbo warned me about it [19:29] those screens on the right in that photo are... very very very sweet [19:29] charl lol, you use a swivel chair in a setup like that, you have to [19:29] they look extremely wide [19:29] the screens on the right are 29" 2560x1080p ultra-wide [19:29] what aspect ratio are they [19:29] ah i see [19:29] they U2913WM's [19:29] made by Dell [19:29] pricey fuckers though [19:29] lol [19:30] i bet [19:30] but they make for an awesome awesome work environment when you need a TON of terminal windows open [19:30] for NOC type stuff i can understand [19:30] by biggest complaint with that setup is sadly, because linux and nvidia keep fighting with each other, it wont work properly in linux [19:31] i like looking at NOC pictures, displays everywhere [19:31] linux nerfed the nvidia drivers so you can't do more than 3 screens [19:31] and linux pukes when it drives to boot that machine anyway because it doesnt know how to deal with the hardware in it [19:31] yeah i am stuck with intel HD due to that reason [19:31] (that machine has 2 GTX 790 Ti Video Cards in it) [19:31] both on 16x PCI-E bus [19:31] what irritates me is that all the new AMD laptops come with radeon graphics cards [19:31] heh, the graphics power int hat machine and the video encoding / decoding power is just SICK [19:31] and that means AMD is out for me now, too [19:32] heh there is no card in the world though that outrun that 790 Ti [19:32] its SICK fast [19:32] and to have two of them in the same machine is just awesome sauce [19:32] I was gonna SLI them but chose not to [19:32] i mostly use my machines for internet/development and watching tv/films so i don't need anything crazy fortunately [19:32] otherwise i would also be stuck on windows [19:33] heh I use my machine for a ton of things but a lot of the video power is because I remux video etc [19:33] the reality is though, that in terms of video stuff, windows still has teh better apps [19:33] yeah then you need it [19:33] adobe premiere and adobe after effects > * [19:34] you guys do stuff with voip too? [19:34] hell of a lot of sip stuff [19:34] at work we are migrating to microsoft lync now (i would rather have had a fully standards-based asterisk setup) [19:34] both over ip networks and over dedicated sat links [19:35] heh yeah see, we dont generally play with the software stuff though, the stuff we're doing is carrier grade on hardware platforms [19:35] i like how lync is integrated with microsoft exchange and the presence automatically updates according to your calendar [19:35] but i'm not a big fan of proprietary lock-ins [19:36] i am using instant messaging now with the pidgin sipe plugin but i still need to get a hardware network-phone this month [19:36] there are no soft clients for lync that run on linux and works with voip [19:36] so i have pidgin for instant messaging and a network phone for voip [19:42] wtf this stupid netgear cable modem at my house.... has french firmware [19:42] and no way that I can see to switch it to english [19:42] :( its gonna surrender and die [19:44] le revolution! [19:44] i was in liege this past sunday, i just realise once again that i understand nothing of french [19:48] heh [19:48] this is a speedtest.net server [19:48] from a box that is like, half a kilometer from my house [19:48] connected to the same hub Im gonna be connected to [19:49] http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3214916728 [19:49] its being constrained though by the isp thats hosting that test server [19:49] that's not bad, for kenya [19:50] although, i find speedtest isn't very good at measuring high bandwidth links in any case [19:50] heh, well, it would go a shitload faster IF the server could handle it [19:50] and yeah speedtest.net sux for high bandwidth links [19:50] i think flash might be part of the problem [19:51] if i do a speed test from work (gigabit ethernet locally with a 40gbps connection to the rest of the world) i can get about 800mbps down and 600mbps up to amsio [19:51] but that's using iperf [19:52] against a VM with 10gbps virtual ethernet [19:52] speedtest.net also SUCKS testing high bandwidth over long latencies [19:52] I mean [19:52] http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3214925486 [19:52] thats a neotel speed test from kenya [19:53] the upload speed figure is complete horseshit, I know how much bandwidth is there [19:53] iperf is for real speed tests, gives a much more realistic indication [19:53] speedtest is just for testing crappy consumer dsl connections [19:53] lol yeah [19:54] it's ok for testing connections like this stupid home cable connection to ziggo [19:54] but my city doesn't have ftth yet [19:54] they are busy converting the region, i'm hoping for this year, then i'm off ziggo with their overpriced service [19:55] http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3214930293 [19:55] the worst thing about eurodocsis is that your upload speed is a tenth of your download [19:57] this is what real internet looks like: http://www.breedbandarnhem.nl//thuis/snelheden [19:57] heh [19:57] anyway :) Im off to bed [19:57] gnight all [19:57] have a good one [19:57] i'm off too [19:58] night [20:13] night all. sleep tight