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TJ-PublicStaticVoid: There are different ways of triggering the same functionality00:02
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PublicStaticVoidsudo apt-get install mate-core or update-manager -d  ?00:03
PublicStaticVoidWhich one?00:03
PublicStaticVoidOh okay00:03
FloodBot1!netsplit00:03
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit00:03
PublicStaticVoidOne person aid it wasnt even possible to do an upgrade.. so i was confused00:03
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BeldarPublicStaticVoid, Some answers here are opinions, so you do have to separate the wheat from the chaff at times00:03
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michael__What is happening?00:03
psusimichael__, netsplit... some irc servers got disconnected from the rest of the network00:04
hitsujiTMOmichael__: freenodes been under a lot of ddos attacks in the last few days, so lots of netsplits00:04
michael__I've never seen that00:04
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andresmhI have Ubuntu running on an ARM device, a BeagleBone. I'm having trouble using a USB Wi-FI adapter. The adapter does show up as a usb device in lsusbm but it doesn't show as a network device by ifconfig. Any ideas on how to solve this?00:04
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spearheadit happened 4 times in a row yesterday00:04
McdonaldsBonsoir tout le monde !!00:05
jiridohitsujiTMO: why would someone attack freenode?00:05
psusiandresmh, the device needs a driver, that either linux doens't have, or you don't have built and installed on your system00:05
hitsujiTMOjirido: because they have too much time on their hands and nothing productive to do with it00:06
jiridolol Ok!00:06
andresmhpsusi: thanks. how do I get started trying to figure out which driver i need?00:06
psusiandresmh, google for the name of the device and linux...00:07
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andresmhI actually followed this instructions: http://dotnetdavid.wordpress.com/2013/09/14/beaglebone-black-set-up-wireless-on-ubuntu/ which involved getting new firmware kernel files from https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/rtlwifi00:08
douglhitsujiTMO, you still here?00:08
hitsujiTMOdougl: just about00:08
andresmhbut it failed to get the wlan0 up when doing ' sudo ifconfig wlan0 up', psusi00:09
michael__andresmh: Is ethernet working on the device in question?00:09
TJ-andresmh: Does "iwconfig" report any wireless interfaces?00:09
andresmhmichael__: yes00:09
andresmhTJ: no00:10
Cheryl_chow do I install java for my chrome web browser00:10
dougl3.11.0-14-generic !!! hitsujiTMO is what I am grub defaulting to and I am editing 3.11.0-15-generic... can you help me correct my grub?00:10
andresmhTJ: this is what I get http://pastebin.com/swwhcZEZ00:10
hitsujiTMOdougl: whats output of: uname -a00:11
nevynandresmh: what does ifconfig -a report2/win /win 1200:11
douglso when I edit my grub entry to 15 my plymou...Linux kubuntu 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux hitsujiTMO00:11
douglmy plymouth config works coerrectly... hitsujiTMO00:12
hitsujiTMOdougl: pastebin: ls -l /boot00:12
TJ-andresmh: That output confirms you're missing the drivers... either they're available but not loaded, or not available at all and need acquiring or building00:13
LordDeathGerman site heise.de warns people from using Ubuntu as a server: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Distributionen-patchen-Drupal-ausser-Ubuntu-2075618.html00:14
douglnever do anything b... hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/sdvp5tqQ00:14
TJ-andresmh: Can you pastebin the output of "lsusb -v" ?00:14
Cheryl_cI just downloaded the java plugin for my chrome browser but don't know how to install it00:14
k1lLordDeath: file a bug :/00:15
douglhitsujiTMO, always standard cli update then dist-upgrade00:15
andresmhTJ: here's the lsusb -v http://pastebin.com/rcq7VkUr00:15
alexvrhttp://sites.google.com/site/Javinstall might work00:15
gordonjcpLordDeath: actually, it's saying not to use unpatched versions of Drupal00:15
hitsujiTMOdougl: have you modified any grub related files directly?00:16
anewin resolv.conf how do i add a dns server ?00:16
douglhitsujiTMO, never always standard cli update then dist-upgrade00:16
douglfor those kernels00:16
hitsujiTMOdougl: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg              then please run: sudo update-grub             and then pastebin again /boot/grub/grub.cfg00:17
douglhitsujiTMO, will do...00:17
possum_hello i am trying to reach my machine which is behind a router from the open internet. i have the correct ip and i set port forwarding on the router. i run 'nc -l 55555' on my local pc and when i connect to it via 'nc 192.168.0.15 55555' it works from the lan. but when i try from a public ip to the ip of the router i get a timeout. could this be a firewall issue or something that comes by default00:18
possum_in ubuntu?00:18
douglwhat is cli syntax for pastebin?00:18
hitsujiTMOdougl: sudo apt-get install pastebinit      then     pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg00:19
_CHOWO00:19
douglhitsujiTMO, thanks...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706373/00:19
_CHOW[08:19] <_CHOW> HI????00:20
possum_i forwarded public port 55555 to port 55555 on my machine's local ip00:20
hitsujiTMOdougl: do you have another copy of linux installed?00:20
dougl13.0400:20
douglthat works nice too00:21
dougland I have 12.10 on my server00:21
TJ-possum_: Does your router also require a firewall allow rule for that port?00:21
possum_TJ-: no it is just a simple home router00:21
possum_TJ-: it has a web interface for port forwarding00:21
jhutchinspossum_: Problem most likely with your forwarding.00:22
douglhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6706394/ hitsujiTMO00:22
hitsujiTMOdougl: what do you get for: lsb_release -a00:22
jhutchinspossum_: How are you testing the external connection?00:22
possum_jhutchins: i set the correct ports and ips, i triple, well quadruple checked00:22
possum_jhutchins: also with netcat00:22
possum_nc <public ip of the router> 5555500:22
jhutchinspossum_: If you do that from within the lan you're not testing it.00:23
douglhitsujiTMO, Ubuntu 13.10 details00:23
TJ-possum_: And you're 100% that the "nc" process is still running on the local PC? nc will usually exit after a connection has been dropped and needs to be re-started00:23
hitsujiTMOdougl: can you pastebin the full lot please00:23
possum_jhutchins: i was just testing whether the nc syntax is correct, so we can rule that out because it works in the local lan. of course i am not testing the nat by that00:23
douglNo LSB modules are available.00:23
possum_TJ-: yes 100%, it works if i connect to it locally later00:23
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TJ-possum_: You can't do loopback on the router; you'll need to connect from an outside IP00:24
possum_TJ-: thats why i said "from a public ip"00:24
possum_TJ-: to be more precise, it is not the same public ip as the router00:24
douglhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/cZHGv5DZ00:25
TJ-possum_: OK ... so run "sudo tcpdump -vni eth0 tcp port 5555" on the local PC and see if it sees any connection attempts. If not, your router needs more configuration00:25
* dougl is making too many mistakes appreciates the help00:26
possum_ok TJ-00:26
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TJ-possum_: of course, correct my typo there "... tcp port 55555"00:26
hitsujiTMOdougl: can you pastebin /etc/default/grub00:26
possum_sure00:26
possum_also wlan000:26
TJ-possum_: You've got the drift :)00:27
possum_:)00:27
michael__My internet is slow, just saying00:27
TJ-andresmh: I've got the latest kernel source code here; I don't see any driver claiming the 148f:7601 device00:27
douglhitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706421/00:28
andresmhTJ-: hmm that's sad :(00:28
R3K4CEI have xubuntu installed on a laptop and I can't connect to the internet. When I hover over the internet icon i get no network devices available. Is there a fix for this?00:28
michael__Is there a way I can make a hard disk image using mkisofs?00:28
hitsujiTMOdougl: ahh so you have changed /etc/default/grub :P00:28
douglhitsujiTMO, LOL consider my hand slapped... what should I do :)00:29
hitsujiTMOdougl: in /etc/default/grub set GRUB_DEFAULT=000:30
hitsujiTMOdougl: then rerun: sudo update grub             and then reboot to test00:31
* dougl recalls messing with grub now that hitsujiTMO catches him lol00:31
hitsujiTMO:)00:31
michael__Is there a way I can make a hard disk image using mkisofs?00:32
hitsujiTMOdougl: you dont have GRUB_DISTRIBUTION set so in your grub.cfg it has GNU/Linux so thats how i spotted that you modified that file00:33
Beldarmichael__, You might try ##linux as well.00:33
michael__Ok00:33
Beldarpretty geeky there00:34
douglthat is why I love this channel hitsujiTMO ... you guys are great!00:34
michael__dougl: I find the graphical tool grub-customizer useful for not messing up my system00:34
TJ-andresmh: I've found an out-of-tree source-code package that includes a driver that claims that device; I'm not sure if you'll be able to build and install it though00:35
douglmichael__, point and click is not my favorite... prolly cuz I cant find anything00:37
TJ-andresmh: Here you go: https://github.com/hitmoon/mt7601u00:37
michael__Beldar: That channel won't let me speak, and the link to register nicks gives a 40400:38
Beldar!register | michael__00:38
ubottumichael__: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode00:38
andresmhTJ-: that's awesome! thanks. once i build the binaries, where do they go?00:38
michael__Beldar: My nick is registered00:39
andresmhdo i copy them in some special driver directory?00:39
andresmhor does the makefile do that automatically?00:39
michael__The ##linux channel wants an additional registration at http://linuxassist.net/irc, which gives a 404 (Not found)00:39
hitsujiTMOmichael__: then log in00:39
Beldarmichael__, Hmm, not sure I just got on ##linux I'm registered as well.00:39
k1lmichael__: login into your freenode account. for questions ask in #freenode00:39
TJ-andresmh: You'll need to install git "sudo apt-get install git" and then do "git clone https://github.com/hitmoon/mt7601u.git" and then "cd mt7601u" and then read the instructions carefully in "README_STA_usb"00:39
michael__I am logged int freenode00:40
hitsujiTMOmichael__: you ar not logged in as a registered user right now00:40
hitsujiTMOmichael__: then log in00:40
michael__I am00:40
k1lmichael__: you are not00:40
michael__Um, yes I am00:40
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michael__I did /msg NickServ identify ******* to use the nick michael__00:40
k1lmichael__: no you are not. please ask in #freenode for more support on that freenode issue00:40
hitsujiTMOmichael__: you're not. we can /whois you. it states if you're loggin in and you're not00:40
TJ-andresmh: You'll need to ensure you have also done "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"00:41
michael__I've registered in the past00:41
michael__And have to enter my password in order to use my nick00:41
Beldarmichael__, YOu have to login each tim you come on the irc, I have my irc client do it automatically.00:41
michael__How am I not logged in?00:41
michael__Beldar: I do00:41
hitsujiTMOmichael__: maybe you registration has expired. it expires if you don't log in for 6 weeks00:42
michael__hitsujiTMO: I log in almost every day, as with a few minutes ago00:42
k1lmichael__: please ask in #freenode they can explain that to you00:42
xanguahitsujiTMO: it does¿00:42
xanguaooh 6 weeks, read 6 days00:43
TJ-andresmh: I warn you now, those instructions are messy, complicated, and totally *not* the Linux way of doing things!00:43
rwwhitsujiTMO: erm, no it doesn't00:43
hitsujiTMOxangua: oooh 10 weeks now sorry, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userexpirations00:43
rww1) it's never been less than 10 weeks, 2) that's on request manually, not automatically00:44
andresmhTJ-: grr :(00:44
rwwanyways00:44
hitsujiTMOrww might be confising with another network on those specifics00:45
michael__From freenode.net: "We consider IRC nicks expired after they have not been used for 10 weeks plus (at staffer discretion) one additional week per full year of registration, up to a maximum of five additional weeks. Nicks which are at least two weeks old and which were last used less than two hours after their creation are also considered to be expired."00:45
k1lmichael__: please put that issue into #freenode channel.00:45
douglhitsujiTMO, was that supposed to boot the latest kernel version?00:45
hitsujiTMOdougl: is it still 14?00:46
BeldarhitsujiTMO, Heh, nothing like a pile on as if your mention made you jack the ripper eh.00:46
douglhitsujiTMO, yes00:46
hitsujiTMOBeldar: :)00:46
dougluname -r00:46
dougl3.11.0-14-generic00:46
hitsujiTMOdougl: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg again00:47
douglhitsujiTMO,00:48
douglhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6706494/00:48
hitsujiTMOdous:00:51
douglhitsujiTMO, 3.11.0-14-generic is what is booting even after I changed it in settings00:53
hitsujiTMOdougl: when you boot, is it the grub for kubuntu 13.04 that gets loaded?00:54
denysonique I want to make a deb package of ready binaries of na open source project. Should I fetch the bins manually before running debuild or should I do the fetching in debian/rules?00:54
douglhitsujiTMO, err - probably, right ?00:55
TJ-denysonique: If the binaries are open-source then the package (or one of its dependencies) should build them00:55
denysoniqueTJ-: I don't have makefiles for it00:56
denysoniqueactually, for hosting it on a PPA it must be built from source on the server, since no binaries are allowed, is this correct?00:56
hitsujiTMOdougl: that may beed to be updated independently. boot kubuntu 13.04. from there run: sudo update-grub             then restart00:56
TJ-denysonique: Then the way to handle it is to include a script in the source package that gets installed and run (postinst script probably) to fetch the files when the user installs your package00:56
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douglhitsujiTMO, gotcha thanks brb00:57
TJ-denysonique: See for example the flashplugin-installer00:57
denysoniqueTJ-: why cannot the fetching be done in the source package and the bins as the result distributed in the binary package?00:58
michael__How do I install libguestfs in Ubuntu 13.04?  The website only has instructions for 12.04, and even those are unclear00:59
james__Hello I have a quick question. In the terminal when i type su I put in my password and it says authentication failure, but I am the owner and only user of this computer. How can I fix this?01:00
rww!sudo01:00
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo01:00
james__ubottu, I know it's for root, I want to run as root.01:02
ubottujames__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:02
k1ljames__: please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo and see that there is no root account enabled01:03
TJ-denysonique: It's a policy issue; Binaries are opaque. What happens if the user requests the source-code as they are entitled to but the original source doesn't provide it, or the original source disappears?01:03
TJ-denysonique: Check the copyright license; if it is (L)GPL then you have an obligation to provide the source-code01:04
denysoniqueTJ-: anyway, I am going to try to write debian/rules for it to build from source01:04
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TJ-denysonique: If you plan in including binaries you can't use PPA; see the licensing at https://help.launchpad.net/Legal/ProjectLicensing01:08
yusuf.,l01:08
james__i am trying to make a new folder in / and when i right click new folder is grayed out. how can i make a new one? do I have to do it in the terminal01:09
gordonjcpjames__: you probably don't have permission to write to /01:10
gordonjcpjames__: why do you want to make a new directory there?01:10
civpro2hello, i just installed ubuntu and i need to get my video cards working01:10
civpro2i have 2 r9 290x's01:11
civpro2could someone let me know the command to do this please?01:11
civpro2hawaii is what gets picked up01:13
civpro2anyone here?01:14
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hipitihopI'm on 12.04.3 and would like to manually upgrade to latest alsa, i.e. > 1.0.25 or equivalent to what is in 13.10, anyone have  a link or prepared to step me through ?01:20
Beldarhipitihop, I would wait for 14.04 in april or just go up one by ine to 13.10 or fresh install.01:20
hipitihopBeldar, "up by ine ..." ?01:22
Beldarhipitihop, If that alsa is imperative check ppa's and be aware not that support here for ppa's in general. read carefully the word syntax we do make errors one by one.01:22
BeldarI try to make correct sentences and spell everything right, however this is not my grad work so uh you know.01:25
darshanOh01:25
darshanhi01:25
asdhi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor01:26
hipitihopBeldar, this is a continuation from a marathon yesterday with glint* here who helped me discount my issue being a kernel one, i.e. I'm now on "3.11.0-15-generic #23~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 10 16:39:48 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" and problem with usb attached headset persists. which PPA are you proposing01:26
asdbtw im in recovery mod and it works fine (exept resolution is lower and i cant set it up higher)01:27
Beldarhipitihop, No idea, that is your job to research, technically ppa's are not supported here.01:27
asdhi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor01:28
asdwhat should i do???01:29
hipitihopBeldar, do you suggest I just upgrade to 13.10 from 12.04.3 ?01:30
unamedhi, hipitihop why haven you wait for 14.0401:30
Beldarhipitihop, I don't know your issues, so without I would suggest a dual boot to see if 13.10 fixes the issues.01:31
asd hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor, so what should i do??????01:31
hipitihopunamed, That would mean waiting till April to use a new Sennheiser USB heaset :-(01:32
Beldarhipitihop, I'm biased here however I never upgrade the releases I can install and have the same in about 1/4 the time even with a fairly fast internet speed.01:32
BlackshearIm tryin to setup a linksys usb wireless adapter, the cd will not autorun, the manual suggests using windows run, what in ubuntu is similar to "run"?01:33
hipitihopBeldar, sure, I understand, but this is a dev machine for day to day work, which is normally why I err on the side of caution and use the LTS versions, but I also do not want to start from scratch on a dual boot or a vm01:34
BeldarBlackshear, YOu sure you need to run the cd, does it not work?01:34
Blackshearwell the instructions say to install the  cd first01:34
Blackshearthen plug the usb adapter in when prompted01:35
kerneldwhats the infobot called?01:35
unamedblackshear with the new version of ubuntu the usb mode-switch is included by default if your driver is recognized no need to install your cd01:35
Beldarhipitihop, Sure, however you do not know if 13.10 is the answer, and a upgarde to it will take awhile and could beak, so you have to think you way through this IE what is most prudent and easiest to consider.01:35
unamedgot to your network configuration applet to see if your system detect your mobile brand provider network01:35
Blackshearok01:36
hipitihopBeldar, btw, yesterdays machinations indeed confirmed with a live cd of 13.10 that it resolved my issues, we thought since alsa does a majority in kernel, we tried thatt route, with insuing nvidia issues, but alas did not solve the headset issue.01:36
mrrcpBlackshear you should not need CD01:36
mrrcpit wont work either way01:36
Blacksheart wont?01:36
Blackshearwhy01:36
mrrcpWell.. It will not auto run01:36
unamedno need it should work01:36
Blackshearok01:36
unamedinsert your usb  and wait01:36
kerneld!win2-701:37
asd hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor01:37
Beldarhipitihop, Live cd's are kinda a anomaly there are drivers there that get things working when some find not there on install that one has to look for. If you are using a working live 13,10 as your base see if a working live 12.04.3 does the same. In other words a somewhat scientific inquiry approach.01:38
Beldarasd, Fresh install and has it ever worked?01:39
unamedBeldar ?? you may ask if he checked the integrity of the iso???01:40
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knightshadehi01:40
Beldarunamed, Dude I have over 12,000 post on the ubuntu forums and 1000's here and about 8 years of linux use thanks01:40
hipitihopBeldar,  well pity one can't rely on livecd being definitive, I thought that was somewhat the point, anyway worth a shot finding a 12.04 livecd I guess01:41
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Beldarunamed, In other words talk to the user not me.01:41
unamed@beldar,  we are for open knowledge don't forget, i am just helping01:42
Beldarunamed, Right but addressing me like that is offensive to me, if we were into a investigation further and I had missed that I would say thnks for the help. We all do this in different ways, so don;t be so quick to direct another helper is all.01:44
Beldarunamed, As well we don't use @ here we can tab complete nicks, nevertheless thanks for being here to help.01:45
hipitihopis there a way to tell what version a livecd is by inspecting the usb drive it is on other then booting from it ?01:45
Beldarhipitihop, I have a multiloader it has the iso and files there open it and look01:46
Psil0CybinHey guys is there any special method for installing Ubuntu Server on a raid 5 system with 3 hard drives?01:47
Psil0Cybinslash is there a specific guide dfor getting ubuntu on a raid system01:48
knightshadehipitihop: mount it and open the file /etc/issue on the drive01:48
rwwPsil0Cybin: hardware raid or software raid01:48
Psil0CybinHardware01:48
Psil0Cybin3 hard drives01:49
Psil0Cybini want to set up ubuntu server01:49
Psil0Cybinto use all hard drives01:49
rwwPsil0Cybin: raid card supported by Linux?01:49
rwwif it's hardware raid, Ubuntu just sees one hard drive...01:49
Psil0Cybinoh sdoes it01:49
rwwand you do the configuration in your raid controller01:49
Psil0Cybinokay perfect the guys at the store made it seem complicated01:49
Psil0Cybinthey said with windows it would recognize it but with linux01:49
Psil0Cybinid have to configure it lol01:49
knightshade!raid | Psil0Cybin01:49
ubottuPsil0Cybin: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto01:49
Beldarhipitihop, I think most here try to as definitive as possible, however these processes generally have so many variables it can be difficult to do that.01:49
Ca11umI have just added a user to a group that has ownership/permission to a specific directory, but after adding the user, they do not. How can I give the new user the same access?01:50
rwwCa11um: did the user log out and back in?01:50
rwwoh01:50
Psil0CybinAlright thank you01:50
Ca11umrww, no, is that required?01:50
Psil0Cybinbut if it shows up as just one hard drive, I should bei nthe clear?01:50
rwwCa11um: yes, group changes take effect in new login sessions only01:50
Ca11umrww: Thank you01:50
Blackshearhow would i do the system ubdate that they reccommend during installation01:51
TJ-Psil0Cybin: It depends on whether it is true hardware RAID, or what is called 'Fake' RAID. With fakeraid - dmraid is the driver - the underlying physical disks will show up as /dev/sdX nodes and the RAID array(s) will show up as device mapper entries under /dev/mapper/01:51
BeldarBlackshear, There is a box to tick in the install gui's01:52
Psil0CybinI will check in a few minutes01:52
Beldar3rd party and upgrades01:52
Psil0Cybinif its a hard ware raid, It should work? If i pop in the ubuntu disk?01:52
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knightshadethe link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid should be added to the bot info01:52
Y2KVetWhat are the alternatives to rsync for backup?  Easy, simple, elegant count.01:53
chaotixheyy01:53
Beldar!backup01:54
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning01:54
BeldarY2KVet, ^^^^^^^^^^01:54
BlueProtomanHow can I use my Bluetooth gamepad as a controller on Ubuntu?01:54
hipitihopknightshade, thanks, but struggling to find /etc/issue maybe its because I tend to use unetbootin to produce the bootable usb stick01:54
Y2KVetThanks!01:54
Blackshearbledar, i alreadt installed, but i didnt update during the installation01:55
amy_Hello, how can I get a Radeon HD 7520G card working in 13.10?01:55
amy_Its on a laptop.01:55
BeldarBlackshear, You can tab complete nicks, so that they are spelled correctly and they show up as red like this one does to you and notifies the user you answered them.01:56
knightshadehipitihop: just plug the usb drive in, open nautilus, click the usb drive, direct to the etc folder, click the issue file01:56
Psil0Cybinknightshade: thank you guysa01:56
Psil0CybinI am going to tread the raid guides, and check it out and see hot it works.01:56
Psil0Cybinhow it works*01:56
knightshadePsil0Cybin: you're welcome01:56
BlackshearBeldar, it doesnt show up red, so how would i do the system update01:57
civpro2i see a white x and a black screen after installing drivers for a r9 290x01:58
civpro2any advice?01:58
mrrcpBlackshear launch terminal01:58
hipitihopknightshade, thanks I know how to browse the drive, lets be clear, this is a bootable livecd on a usb stick we are talking about, I have dirs like boot, casper01:58
mrrcpsudo apt-get update01:58
BeldarBlackshear, Ah I Guess green at least here, but you get it. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal is a apt update01:58
mrrcpsudo apt-get upgrade01:58
Blackshearnope everything is gray lol Beldar01:58
civpro2i am having a heck of a time with his video card01:58
BeldarBlackshear, Ah, if you use a cli irc that is the case, the point is for ease of travel you want the other to know you are answering the. Sometimes the posts fly in here is all.01:59
civpro2any help would be greatly appreciated01:59
Beldarthem*01:59
BlackshearBeldar, yea no problem, thanks for the tip.01:59
varunendraBlackshear, what is the problem by the way that you expect to fix by updating?02:00
knightshadehipitihop: yeah, then it doesn't work02:00
Beldarcivpro2, To the channel the exact details of what you have done and any relevant errors really help.02:00
BlueProtomanIs there any software for Linux that will let me map joystick buttons to keyboard keys?02:00
Blackshearno problem, i just want this thing installed correctly02:00
Blackshearvarunendra,02:00
TJ-hipitihop: The file(s) you're looking for are inside the squashfs image, not in the ISO file-system02:01
knightshadehipitihop: do you have a dists folder on the drive?02:01
hipitihopknightshade, yes, just found that, that seems to give a hint :-)02:01
civpro2went to amd and picked out my video card02:01
civpro2downloaded the run file02:01
civpro2extracted it, and ran it02:01
civpro2i also tried flxgr-update02:01
civpro2or something like that02:01
varunendraBlackshear, once Ubuntu is installed and connected to internet, it will automatically detect recommended updates and will prompt you to install them. You just have to accept the installation (and the download of course).02:01
knightshadehipitihop: there should be a file dists/<release_name>/Release02:02
Beldarcivpro2, Proprietary drivers are the last resort here and technically not supported is all.02:02
civpro2and i got an error saying monitors not supported02:02
Blackshearvarunendra, ok then thats all i needed to know, thanks.02:02
civpro2beldar, if i get it reinstall i will02:02
varunendraWelcome :)02:02
civpro2whatever is the best way02:02
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civpro2i would rather not though02:02
hipitihopknightshade, indeed, got it now, many thanks02:02
civpro2if possible02:02
civpro2which drivers are proprietary?02:02
civpro2the amd r9 290x?02:03
knightshadehipitihop: you're welcome02:03
civpro2beldar, how can i get this running without proprietary drivers please02:03
Beldarcivpro2, Be careful not to use the enter key as punctuation and give relevant details is all, it is easy to get lost in the channel, especially if you have unusual or not real common hardware.02:03
hipitihopTJ-, thanks, no sign of squashfs but have found the version in /dists see discuss with knightshade02:04
Beldarcivpro2, If I knew I would have suggested drivers. ;)02:04
civpro2Beldar, ok, what are the next steps02:04
varunendracivpro2, for AMD graphics, the "radeon" driver is open source, the rest (fglrx and others if there are any) are proprietary. There is no definitive list of 'proprietary drivers'.02:05
Blacksheardo you guys reccommend getting clam-av, or is ubuntu fine without it02:05
Beldarcivpro2, No idea, recognize that all I have said to you is info on getting help, and the norms of using proprietary drivers here, I have not indicated I can actually help with your issue.02:05
unamedi say no need Blackshear02:05
Blacksheari will probably be accessing some sketchy websites, that may try to install spyware and malware02:06
* hipitihop reboots to 12.04 livecd to see if headset issue resolved as in 13.10 livecd02:06
varunendraBlackshear, Ubuntu itself is fine without it. It is meant to protect the Windows users from the viruses that may carry with files copied from Ubuntu.02:06
unamedBlackshear, haviing it may not kill you02:06
civpro2varunendra, i did try the run file first from amd, then i used other methods afterwards.  since on reboot it stated that the monitor was no supported in that resolution i read an article to delete the .config/monitors.xml file02:06
BeldarBlackshear, Not much of a danger in linux, but always use caution.02:06
civpro2i tried this but it did not work either, i believe it might be with the tv i am using.  i am using hdmi02:06
varunendracivpro2, I have no experience with graphics drivers, just provided the basic info I knew. But hang on, maybe someone more knowledgeable would be able to help..02:07
civpro2i am hearing alot of i shouldnt do this or that but not 1 suggestion yet on what i should do02:07
civpro2ok i will hang on, thanks02:08
BeldarBlackshear, Never run in root and strong passwords are a good start.02:08
unamedyou know the name of your graphic cards civpro202:08
civpro2unamed, yes r9 290x also known as hawaii02:08
civpro2unamed, also i have 2 video cards of the same type, i didnt want to leave that out02:09
varunendracivpro2, you can list your graphics card and driver by these commands : "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga" (for short info) and "sudo lshw -numeric -C display" (for detailed info)02:10
Beldarcivpro2, THe only reason I said anything to you was I noticed a lack of any real pertinent details needed to get help here. This is to get you orientated to actually get help.02:10
varunendra..and always use pastebin for posting multiline outputs :) civpro202:10
civpro2Beldar, i understand, i did not take any offense to what you said02:12
Beldar;)02:12
civpro2varunendra, that command is not working02:12
varunendraplease show us the exact command you used civpro202:12
civpro2lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga02:13
civpro2varunendra, in response i get no such file or directory.... i did have to do alt-shit-f1 in order to get to command prompt02:13
unamedi send your a link civpro202:14
civpro2thanks02:14
varunendracivpro2, the command looks fine to me. It is just the "lspci" command with some options, then grep is filtering the output, that's all. Can you just use "lspci" command ?02:15
civpro2unamed - varunendra, when i type in fglrxinfo i get unable to open display (null)02:18
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js111444hello, I am using ubuntu 13.10, and want to disable a notification. A popup window appears when the pc is set to suspend automatically after X minutes  unused.  before it goed into suspended mode a window appears and remains there, even if the system starts back up...02:19
js111444it is listed as a minor bug, but no solution so far, anyone got an idea?02:19
civpro2it looks like i might of hosed this one02:20
civpro2going to reinstall02:20
varunendrajs111444, no idea here, but maybe give us the link to the bug report to help us understand ?02:21
varunendracivpro2, not a bad idea if the installation is fresh and time is priority :)02:22
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js111444i gues this is the link to the correct bug rapport...https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/123245402:27
ubottuUbuntu bug 1232454 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) ""Computer will suspend very soon because of inactivity." dialog when resuming from suspend" [Low,Confirmed]02:27
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BAMbandawhat does "i686" mean?02:42
BAMbandaI want to understand if I'm on 32-bit or 64-bit02:42
douglhow do I install grub in 13.10? I installed 13.10 along side 13.04 and 13.10 grub install fails so I used 13.04 grub to boot 13.10 now I need to update grub and I cannot get into 13.04?02:42
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somsipBAMbanda: maybe this will help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I686 but this is a 64bit CPU02:44
MyComputerIsGoneUm Hello, if anyone is out there02:45
somsip!anyone } MyComputerIsGone02:45
ubottusomsip: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:45
somsip!anyone | MyComputerIsGone02:45
ubottuMyComputerIsGone: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.02:45
MyComputerIsGoneuh sure02:45
munzBAMbanda: uname -a02:45
BAMbandamunz, the output of that is: Linux x 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:36:13 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux02:46
munzx86_64 would be 64biy02:46
munzahh ur 3202:46
BAMbandaso does that mean that I should download Linux x*6 version of Java02:46
munzyes02:47
BAMbandaok thanks02:47
munznp02:47
MyComputerIsGoneDoes anyone know how to back up and fresh reinstall a 13.10 Ubuntu that I just dun goofed on with something like sudo apt-get purge wine*? The main problem (which otherwise this might be easy with) is that all resemblence of a gui has disappeared and all I can do is control alt f1 for the terminal...02:47
munzBAMbanda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java02:47
Bashing-omdougl: Whichever install is to be primary, from that primary "install grub" to the MBR and make sure os-prober is executable, ->update-grub should pick up the other install(s).02:48
munzor http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html02:48
x_MyComputerIsGone, so reinstall ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop02:48
x_or something02:48
MyComputerIsGoneyeah, I have tried.02:48
MyComputerIsGoneIt gives an error related to libreoffice-common02:48
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douglBashing-om, sudo grub-install /dev/sda?02:49
BAMbandamunz, thank you02:49
douglBashing-om, source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory02:49
munzno prob02:49
MyComputerIsGoneor rather something like "the following packages have unmet dependencies": libreoffice things02:49
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, sudo apt-get install -f02:50
DF3D2err02:51
DF3D2hold on it's been a long time02:51
MyComputerIsGoneno, that is what they suggested02:51
MyComputerIsGoneand I did do that02:51
DF3D2hm02:51
Beautiful^Girlyeah its quite annoying, a wildcard purge will remove all the dependencies as well, maybe the ubuntu team could fix this02:51
MyComputerIsGonebut it's like: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:51
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, might be easiest to just reinstall02:52
DF3D2gotta watch those wildcards02:52
MyComputerIsGoneyes, that is what I'm trying to do =D02:52
DF3D2trying?02:52
MyComputerIsGonebut02:52
Bashing-omdougl: sudo grub-install /dev/sda, yes; IF that primary install is on the sda drive. ... sounds like you are working from the liveDVD environment, yes ?02:52
MyComputerIsGoneAll I need to do is figure out how I can back up my files02:52
MyComputerIsGoneif possible02:52
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, is /home on a seperate partition ?02:52
somsipMyComputerIsGone: you could go back through /var/log/apt/history.log and reinstall the packages removed in error, but it might be a tedious and fruitless attempt02:52
MyComputerIsGoneDF3D2, I don't believe so02:53
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, well do you have some srt of usb flash drive?02:53
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douglBashing-om, no I am in 13.10 on sda2 my first install is 13.04 on sdb1 that will not boot and I can loginto but dont know root pw02:54
MyComputerIsGoneYes, I do.02:54
DF3D2well copy stuff to that02:54
MyComputerIsGoneI have no idea how to do that with only a terminal, sorry02:54
DF3D2okay go plug it in02:54
MyComputerIsGoneyup02:54
DF3D2ill talk you through it02:54
MyComputerIsGonecool02:54
MyComputerIsGonethanks02:54
douglBashing-om, so it does actually boot but no desktop env or suid and I dont know root's pass02:55
Beldardougl, Which release is at the top of the grub menu when you see it?02:55
q0why can't linux read UFS pendrives ?02:55
Guest5041How do I import settings from a .img file back up on an old Ubuntu install to a new install on a different machine?02:55
dougl13.0402:55
douglbel3atar,02:55
douglBeldar,  13.0402:55
Bashing-omdougl: OK.. no sweat, what do you want for your primary operating system ? only one has control of what is to boot .02:56
Daemoenlo all.02:56
Beldardougl, So 13.04 has the grub control running a grub-update in 13.10 will not do any good, what os the actual issue I logged in after you stated it?02:56
dougl13.1002:56
douglBeldar,02:56
Beldaris*02:56
Daemoenwhat is the best way of automating the partitioning part of debian installer02:56
Daemoeni really dont like having to do 18 partitions manually :|02:56
MyComputerIsGoneEr DF3D2 whenever you're ready, I guess..02:56
Daemoen especially on 25 machines02:56
BeldarDaemoen, Debian has a channel.02:56
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, okay type "sudo fdisk -l"02:57
DaemoenBeldar: wow?!  really?!  omfg thats amazing...02:57
Beldar!attitude | Daekdroom02:57
ubottuDaekdroom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines02:57
q0why can't linux read UFS pendrive with an image written in a unix system ? What is this compatibility problem "on purpose" ???02:57
Bashing-omdougl: By default root is locked in 'buntu, rarely is it ever ever required to enable that access. This is not one of those times and the means to do so is not discussed in open channels.02:57
Beldar!attitude | Daemoen do not swear here.02:57
ubottuDaemoen do not swear here.: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines02:57
DaemoenBeldar: last i checked, ubuntu is based on debian, it also has a server version, i would expect (even the volunteers) to be aware of the tools02:57
MyComputerIsGoneOk, I see some information...reporting data and stuff02:57
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, so how big is the flash drive?02:58
BeldarDaekdroom: Sorry wrong nick.02:58
DaemoenBeldar: i understand that, but telling someone to go to the debian channel when the question is related to ubuntu automation every bit as much as debian, sending me to debian seems like a pretty lazy response, unless there simply isnt the familiarity with the automation aspect of the ubuntu installer in here02:58
MyComputerIsGoneI think it's 2 GB02:58
MyComputerIsGonebut I believe it can hold the things I need it to...02:58
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, find the info that pretains to that device, like 2000gb drive /dev/sdb or some such02:58
KI7MTDaemoen, using preseed is an option you may be interested in.02:58
douglnice02:59
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DaemoenKI7MT: been working on that, the partitioning aspect of preseed seems.... convoluted and sloppy at best02:59
Daemoenwas hoping that there *might* be something better for it somewhere02:59
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, such as this:02:59
DF3D2<Bashing-om> dougl: OK.. no sweat, what do you want for your primary operating system ? only one has control of what i02:59
possum_hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan 192.168.0.1/24. x is also connected to wlan1 192.168.111.1/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 192.168.222.1/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z02:59
DF3D2err wtf?02:59
possum_effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x02:59
Bashing-omdougl: What are you wanting to boot up as the primary controlling system ?02:59
possum_to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. wtf is going on!!????02:59
DF3D2Bashing-om, desregard rogue paste02:59
KI7MTDaemoen, I think, if I recall, the one stipulation is that the sctipt has to use the whole disk.02:59
DF3D2disregard*02:59
somsip!wtf | possum_ DF3D203:00
ubottupossum_ DF3D2: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:00
MyComputerIsGoneOk, I believe it says /dev/sdb1 * "start":32 end: "4081663" Blocks "2040816" ID: 6 System FAT16.03:00
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, such as Disk /dev/sda: 180.0 GB, 180045766656 bytes03:00
Psil0Cybinhey guys trying to install ubuntu server from USBusing the startup disk creator but it keeps sayinhg its trying to moiunt a cd rom instead of booting frmo USB?03:00
possum_ok03:00
Psil0Cybinis there an ISO made for USB Installs?03:00
BeldarDF3D2, The channle rules are no swearing or acronyms of please03:00
Psil0Cybinthat would not ask to mount a CD ROM03:00
Psil0CybinI am confused03:00
possum_PLEASE HELP03:00
MyComputerIsGoneoh ok03:00
MyComputerIsGoneUh03:00
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, okay type "mkdir /media/usb1"03:00
possum_this is a LINUX MYSTERY03:01
DaemoenKI7MT: coming at this from a RH/C background, the ubuntu installer is downright infuriating; ubuntu has done a lot to bring linux awareness, but im amazed that the installer is still so lacking in usability03:01
SchrodingersScatpossum_: linux moosetery03:01
MyComputerIsGonehad to sudo that one, if that's ok, but done.03:01
douglBeldar, the actual issue is sudo grub-install /dev/sda does not work<- is that what you were asking?03:01
Daemoendont get me wrong, it is what it is, i can understand that, im just trying to find a way of making it work better =D03:01
possum_SchrodingersScat: DAMN U MYSTERY CAT03:01
KI7MTDaemoen, Landscape is really the enterprise solution, but not everyone wants to shell out for it.03:01
Bashing-omDF3D2: sorry bout that.. recon I failed to "look" at what I was adressing; haste makes waste !03:01
somsippossum_: you have a in-depth network query. All you're doing by adding worthless comments is scrolling it off the screen. Maybe prepare a pastebin with full details and post a link to that every 15 mins or so03:02
Psil0Cybinhey guys trying to install ubuntu server from USBusing the startup disk creator but it keeps sayinhg its trying to moiunt a cd rom instead of booting frmo USB?03:02
Beldardougl, You have to chroot to the install from a live cd to do that, no sudo there you are rooted.03:02
DaemoenKI7MT: yeah,  were a startup, half the time i cant even get clearance on switches, no way im going to get the go ahead on landscape... but i did just come up with an idea =D03:02
somsip!patience | Psil0Cybin03:02
ubottuPsil0Cybin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/03:02
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone,  "sudo chown yourusername:group /media/usb1" such as if your user is "joe" and group is "joe" then type sudo chown joe:joe /media/usb103:02
Daemoeni can make at least 14 of the partitions using ansible and automation, i really only need to worry about the first disk in each system03:02
possum_thanks somsip03:02
possum_somsip: yeah its a mystery, but people dont like to click pastebins so i gave a precise summary03:02
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possum_i even put some effort in to be concise03:03
MyComputerIsGoneComplete, DF3D203:03
possum_here it is again and then i will shut up03:03
somsippossum_: I do see people helping with those sorts of queries, but maybe easier if you have some concise text somewhere you can link to as it's a big post03:03
possum_hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan 192.168.0.1/24. x is also connected to wlan1 192.168.111.1/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 192.168.222.1/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z03:03
possum_effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x03:03
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, okay now where are the files you would like to copy located ?03:03
possum_to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. WHAT is going on!!????03:03
MyComputerIsGonethey're all in home, I think03:03
MyComputerIsGoneor at least in my user file03:04
DF3D2okay so then "cd /home/username"03:04
DF3D2or cd "~/"03:04
Psil0CybinHey guys I have no CD DRIVE! I am trying to install ubuntu through USB the Server keeps asking for aCD03:04
Psil0CybinWhat do I Do?03:04
MyComputerIsGoneYup.03:04
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, now type "ls -al"03:04
MyComputerIsGoneOk03:05
DF3D2are the files you want in there ?03:05
somsipPsil0Cybin: stop spamming for a start. Have some patience. You can see it's busy here03:05
varunendrapossum_, time to grasp things and respond back is short on IRC, especially when the channel is busy. Maybe try Ubuntu Forums (ubuntuforums.org)03:05
possum_:((((03:05
douglBeldar, so boot live cd and "chroot /dev/sda2" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" I know the sudo pass for 13.10?03:05
possum_please help here03:05
MyComputerIsGoneYes, I believe so03:05
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, well, you can see the files with "ls -al"03:05
possum_its not hard, just read it03:05
possum_you probably know the answer03:05
MyComputerIsGoneYes, I can03:05
MyComputerIsGonethey're there03:06
Psil0CybinPddOdd looks like theres no solution03:06
Psil0Cybinill try debian >< stinky ubuntu03:06
douglpossum_, read what?03:06
somsipPsil0Cybin: I find relevant results by searching for 'ubuntu server install usb asks for cd' on google. Maybe can can follow through some of these and see if they are helpful03:06
Psil0Cybini just did03:06
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, now you have several options but since the drive is only 2gb I don't want you to fill it up with non essential stuff.03:06
Psil0Cybinlol you wanna know what the answer is03:06
possum_dougl: my question03:06
Psil0Cybintry another program03:06
Psil0Cybinevery program gives me same result :P03:06
Beldardougl, Yeah chroot to 13.10 no sudo just grub-install /dev/sda then update-grub03:06
Psil0CybinI say try another ISO lol like debian...silly ubuntu03:06
possum_dougl: hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan 192.168.0.1/24. x is also connected to wlan1 192.168.111.1/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 192.168.222.1/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z03:06
possum_effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x03:06
MyComputerIsGoneEr...03:06
possum_to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. WHAT is going on!!????03:06
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, type "du -m ~/"03:07
MyComputerIsGoneOk03:07
MyComputerIsGoneWow, ok03:07
knightshadepossum_: use pastebin!03:07
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, how many MB is it ?03:07
MyComputerIsGoneyep, done!03:07
somsipPsil0Cybin: so you tried this too? http://www.mattkowalczyk.com/blog/?p=16903:07
Psil0Cybinsomsip:03:07
Psil0Cybinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136962803:07
possum_ok :(03:07
MyComputerIsGonetotal? it seems to be 506703:07
MyComputerIsGonewell, they didn't give any units03:08
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, okay so it is too large to just rsync the entire directory you will need to copy the stuff you want manually03:08
somsipPsil0Cybin: I don't need links. You have the problem03:08
MyComputerIsGonebut that's what I'm assuming03:08
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, -m specified megabytes :-)03:08
Psil0Cybinwhere do you enter03:08
Psil0Cybinthat stuf somsip03:08
douglpossum_, nice alphabet... beyond me good luck03:08
Psil0Cybinit says hit no and enter03:08
Psil0Cybinbut i hit no and it takes me back to menu?03:08
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:08
Beldar!enter | MyComputerIsGone03:08
ubottuMyComputerIsGone: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:08
MyComputerIsGoneyeah right....03:08
somsipPsil0Cybin: no it doesn't. Read the instructions03:08
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, so you can do this cp -v "filename" /media/usb103:08
possum_thanks still dougl03:08
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, so you can do this cp -vR "directory" /media/usb103:09
MyComputerIsGoneok DF3D2, I'll try and do this now03:09
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, tab will autocomplete file names also03:09
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, so if you had /home/username/long file name you can type ~/lo<tab>03:09
grahamsavage_hello03:10
grahamsavage_every time i play videos in ubuntu i get these horizontal lines03:10
somsipgrahamsavage_: what video card, what video player?03:10
DF3D2grahamsavage_, is it any video, or the same video file ?03:11
Psil0Cybinsomp03:11
Psil0Cybinsomsip: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/usb03:11
grahamsavage_any  video player (both vlc and youtube)03:11
Psil0Cybini get failed argument03:11
Psil0Cybinat this step03:11
Psil0Cybinstep 203:11
Psil0Cybinmount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/usb03:11
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:11
grahamsavage_higher quality videos get more lines03:11
grahamsavage_video card is on-board intel something03:11
DF3D2Psil0Cybin, you need to specify a number such as /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb2 "/dev/sdb" is an entire device03:11
somsipPsil0Cybin: where is your USB mounted? is it /dev/sdb?03:11
DF3D2use sudo fdisk -l03:11
varunendraPsil0Cybin, if you can compromise with a dirty workaround, install from the iso on a virtual-machine > clone the installation > restore on the physical disk. Sorry but if trying 'other' programs didn't help, and you've already verified the ISO integrity, this is all I can offer as a quick workaround03:12
Psil0Cybinwell ls /dev/sd*03:12
Psil0Cybingives me03:12
Psil0Cybin/dev/sda03:12
Psil0Cybinand03:12
Psil0Cybin/dev/sdc03:12
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:12
DF3D2Psil0Cybin, and sudo fdisk -l returns ?03:12
Psil0Cybin/dev/sdb and03:12
Psil0Cybinbash03:13
Psil0Cybinsudo not found03:13
Psil0Cybinim trying to install the server from usb...siugh03:13
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somsipPsil0Cybin: and i've given you a page of instructions that you couldn't find yourself and that you can't follow the instructions correctly. Not sure how to help you now...03:14
Psil0Cybinyea it wont help me with step two03:14
Psil0Cybinstep two just says ivalid argument if you follow commands03:14
Psil0Cybinrls /dev/sd*03:14
varunendraPsil0Cybin, maybe start your own thread at ubuntu forums. The one you linked to is light years old :P03:14
DF3D2light years03:14
DF3D2:-)03:14
Psil0Cybinjust says dev/sda sdb sdc03:14
somsipPsil0Cybin: replace /dev/sdb with the correct /dev/sd* that relates to your USB drive.03:14
Psil0Cybinso just keep trying03:15
Psil0Cybintill one works03:15
DF3D2Psil0Cybin, can you do fdisk -l ?03:15
Psil0Cybinbecasue it gievs me three.03:15
DF3D2without sudo ?03:15
Psil0Cybinfdisk saysb ash no fdisk03:15
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:15
Psil0Cybinbin/sh fdisk not found03:15
somsipvarunendra: if he's using 12.04 it will still apply (Psil0Cybin - is it 12.04?)03:15
somsipPsil0Cybin: try a more recent version, that has possibly more verbose instructions http://is.gd/AxBJ1I03:16
DaemeonZanehola folks. I have a quick question regarding the dist-upgrade flag for apt-get in 12.0403:17
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, working out for you?03:18
BeldarDaemeonZane, asking gets the answer03:18
DaemeonZaneI just set up a fresh 12.04 install, and then ran the usual apt-get update, then went for the apt-get dist-upgrade03:18
DaemeonZaneIt went thru the usual install without failure, but when I reboot, it still shows me on 12.0403:18
DaemeonZaneAny ideas on what I may have missed?03:18
BeldarDaemeonZane, dis-upgrade is a in release upgrade03:18
Beldardist*03:18
Psil0Cybinsomsip:03:19
Psil0Cybini ran the commands03:19
Psil0Cybinhit ALT + command03:19
Psil0Cybinnothing happends03:19
somsipDaemeonZane: did you want to do-release-upgrade?03:19
Psil0Cybinim still stuck on termianl before installing03:19
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:19
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Guest5041How do I import settings from a .img file back up on an old Ubuntu install to a new install on a different machine?03:19
MyComputerIsGoneDF3D2, I'm in progress and things seem to be going fine, thanks.03:20
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, sweet03:20
Psil0Cybinugh forget it03:20
DaemeonZaneaaaah... I think I may have misunderstood what I was running03:20
Psil0Cybinuybutnu doesnt work on usub03:20
Psil0Cybinlmao03:20
Psil0Cybini ran all commands, it just borks eiother the alt+f4 does nothing03:20
BeldarGuest5041, settings? through waht app did you set them?03:21
Psil0Cybinor the commands do not work :I(03:21
DaemeonZaneI thought the dist-upgrade was a complete distro overhaul, especially since a lot of the packages mentioned raring instead of precise03:21
somsipPsil0Cybin: given you cant even follow the bots instructions on not using Enter as punctuation, I'm not surprised you're struggling. Maybe you should take a break and try again later. I can't help you03:21
BeldarDaemeonZane, If you saw raring check the sources.list03:21
fireonly presentation software for presenting powerpoint presentation ?03:22
DaemeonZaneBeldar: what exactly would I be looking for, except Raring references?03:22
somsip!info loimpress | fire03:23
ubottufire: Package loimpress does not exist in saucy03:23
somsip!find loimpress | fire03:23
ubottufire: File loimpress found in libreoffice-impress03:23
somsipfire: less helpful than I hoped. But use Libre Office Impress03:24
BeldarDaemeonZane, If you have just ran a dist-upgrade and not modified the sources list or mistakenly added raring repos there or in sources.list.d, you should not see raring, are you sure?03:24
possum_hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan 192.168.0.1/24 via a switch. x is also connected to wlan1 192.168.111.1/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 192.168.222.1/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection03:24
possum_sharing (z effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also03:24
possum_connect from x to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. what is going on??03:24
somsippossum_: Use. Pastebin. Please.03:24
chris429hello, I am trying to share files between two linux computers on the same network, I can ping, but i dont see them in filebrowser03:24
possum_ok somsip :>03:25
possum_somsip: but please also help me :(03:25
somsipchris429: explain how you set it up03:25
somsippossum_: you need an network expert. I am not one03:25
possum_ok03:25
DaemeonZaneBeldar: There  aren't any references to Raring in my sources.list (I hadn't modded it before the dist-upgrade command was run) but I saw quite a few packages getting installed that mentioned raring in detail03:25
BeldarDaemeonZane, Detail, in a apt-get upgrade?03:26
chris429somsip: both computers have the same version of linux, and the same username, password, everything, both have internet, and both can ping eachother03:26
BeldarDaemeonZane, run sudo apt-get update and pastebin it.03:26
DaemeonZaneBeldar: Let's put it this way, in the almost 250 packages that got installed, I saw Raring on about half of them03:26
somsipchris429: and what are you using to connect to each other? NFS, Samba, SSH?03:27
MyComputerIsGoneDF3D2, I believe i'm ready for the next part, if you are03:27
chris429Nemo03:27
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, you got everything copied over?03:27
DaemeonZaneBeldar: Also, it just ran with 0 installed, removed, or upgraded when I ran it a second ago03:28
chris429somsip: samba03:28
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, make double sure03:28
MyComputerIsGoneI'm good, I think.03:28
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, so now you need to reinstall ubuntu right? do you have an install cd or another usb drive to make a bootable install ?03:29
varunendrapossum_, you may try the networking channel ##networking03:29
somsipchris429: I don't know what Nemo is. Try using the full path to the machine in the address bar of the file browser, eg: smb://192.168.1.3/03:29
firewhich presenation software to use to present powerpoint presenation ?03:29
somsipfire: Libre Office Impress03:29
possum_varunendra: i already tried there :(03:29
possum_they dont know either03:29
possum_we suspect it is an ubuntu issue03:29
MyComputerIsGoneunfortunately, I don't have a disk of any sort.03:30
chris429somsip: okay, i think i got it now, thank you somsip for pointing me on the right track, i made a silly mistake03:30
somsipchris429: np03:30
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, okay so do you have another machine in the house ?03:30
MyComputerIsGoneyes, a couple.03:30
DF3D2okay go copy the files off that usb stick to one of those03:30
DF3D2and come back when you are ready03:30
varunendrapossum_, like I mentioned earlier, maybe try ubuntuforums. We do have some good users there who may have first hand experience of this kind of setup03:31
possum_ok03:31
MyComputerIsGoneUh, sorry, DF3D2. After copying the necessary files to the /media/usb1 folder, I don't believe that they have actually been transferred to the usb itself.03:33
BeldarDaemeonZane, If you run the update as I suggested ands pastebin it I can see if there is any anomaly03:33
DaemeonZaneBeldar: Like I said, I just did, it didn't return anything except that there wasn't anything to return03:33
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, yeah because I don't think I told you to mount it... :-( fail my bad03:34
MyComputerIsGoneoh, don't worry about it03:34
MyComputerIsGoneso uh03:34
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, okay so do this, cp /media/usb1 ~/03:34
DF3D2confirm the files are in ~/usb1 with "ls -al ~/usb1"03:35
DaemeonZaneBeldar: I'm running sudo do-release-upgrade -d now.... and it's putting me up to trusty. I think I may have just misunderstood the difference between it and apt-get dist-upgrade.03:35
hipitihop_Beldar, this is on livecd 12.04.3 and indeed the usb headset works out of the box, aalsa baseso it seems you were right re livecd not being conclusive03:36
MyComputerIsGoneOk, done.03:36
DaemeonZaneAfter I upgrade to trusty I'll just run the usual clean out of broken and old dependencies, see what's up03:36
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, confirmed files are in ~/usb1 ?03:36
BeldarDaemeonZane, You claimed to see raring, this makes no sense, so what I asked for was some evidence so we could find out whats up. May I suggest to to some extent follow simple requests and ask if you don;t understand rather than assume your answer makes any sense in the least.03:37
MyComputerIsGoneDF3D2, that's correct, they are03:37
somsipDaemeonZane: I'm just wondering why you didn't install the daily build for trusty insteasd of going down the path you have03:37
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb1 && cp -vR ~/usb1 /media/usb103:38
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, that should copy them sorry I forgot to have you actually mount it before ~_~03:38
DaemeonZaneSomsip: Like I said, I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, thinking I'd wind up with the newest LTS distro, but apparently I just updated 12.04 like Beldar thought.03:38
DaemeonZaneBeldar: I ran the commands you suggested, Sir, and I told you, I returned that there were simply no updates available at that point03:39
somsipDaemeonZane: yes. That's what dist-upgrade does. Maybe a clean install of the trusty daily build will be the easiest path for you, though unsuported here so I'll shut up now03:39
DaemeonZaneI can't exactly force downgrade and re-run to show you what I mean03:39
BeldarDaemeonZane, I was not looking for updates I wanted to see the repos called.03:39
varunendraDaemeonZane, "do-release-upgrade" is the command for what you wanted. Not that I'm recommending it though ;)03:40
DaemeonZanelol varunendra I just ran it, though I told it NOT to do the upgrade03:41
DaemeonZaneAnd it appears, Beldar, that when running said command, I return nothing but precise sources03:41
BeldarDaemeonZane, Cool, thats all I was trying to confirm.03:42
DaemeonZaneWhy, by the way, would do-release-upgrade to trusty not be supported or recommended?03:42
DaemeonZaneJust curious03:42
hipitihop_Beldar, so at this point as per your inference, there is no guarantee that updating from my installed 12.04.3 to 13.10 will solve my usb headset being correctly detected. Is there anything straight forward I can run from this 12.04.3 live to compare against my installed one ?03:42
DaemeonZaneJust that it's pretty new, or what?03:43
BeldarDaemeonZane, Trusty is in development, not released yet03:43
MyComputerIsGoneDF3D2, I'm getting a mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/usb1 busy03:43
somsipDaemeonZane: some people have no problems with upgrading. Others have problems. It's probably cleaner to reinstall. It's not unsupported, just personal preference03:43
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, what does the command "mount" show ?03:43
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, make sure you aren't in /media/usb1 when you ran that command either03:43
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, cd ~/ and re run it03:44
DaemeonZaneAh... right on. Yeah, I was planning on setting up an Android build environment, and found out some of the packages were having issues installing in 12.04, but saw that a lot of those issues were ironed out in 13.04 and 13.10, so I thought I'd be getting one of those when I ran the apt-get dist-upgrade command. That's what I get for thinking lol03:44
MyComputerIsGonethere are two notices after reruning it (the same as before): the one i just mentioned and another, according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/usb103:45
Beldarhipitihop_, Not sure really, you may have done this already but I would look on the web for this sennheiser and 12.04 or ubuntu in general, askubuntu has a a lot of threads, and you may not be the only person in this delimma.03:45
Beldardilemma*03:45
MyComputerIsGonealso the very first time I ran it, it said cp: cannot create director '/media/usb1/usb1': Permisson denied03:46
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, ls -al /media/usb103:46
DF3D2you sure the files aren't on it ?03:46
Beldarhipitihop_, I would make a threa at the ubuntu forums as well probably.03:46
MyComputerIsGoneyes, interestingly enough there is nothing there03:46
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, this is odd03:46
DaemeonZaneI'll probably just hose the 12.04 and do a fresh install of the 13 LTS03:46
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, try "sudo cp -Rv ~/usb1 /media/usb103:47
DF3D2and then do ls -al /media/usb103:47
DF3D2It seems to be mounted correctly03:47
hipitihop_Beldar, yes done already, followed and tried those threads and the ubuntu sound troubleshooting steps, only thing not tried is to do a manual build of latest alsa, but since this livecd shows same versions of alsa-base & -tools i.e. 1.0.25 then issue must be elsewhere03:48
xanguaDaemeonZane: neither ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10 are LTS03:48
MyComputerIsGoneand again with the "." and ".." but nothing else, unfortunately03:48
MyComputerIsGoneoh wait03:48
DaemeonZane????03:48
DaemeonZaneNo lie... hmmm03:49
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, try just ls -l03:49
MyComputerIsGoneSorry, this time there is a usb1 folder in there as well, is that what we were going for03:49
Beldarhipitihop_, Ah, well there may be users who know but did not make a thread to get it working, but may answer a thread you make, so this seems like an option03:49
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, some odd reason doing ls -al doesn't seem to work the way it should on my system either03:49
DF3D2it makes it not show everything when it should03:50
MyComputerIsGoneYes, now I see all the files DF3D203:50
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, sorry about that but I swear it is a bug03:50
DaemeonZaneIt's been a long time since I've messed with Ubuntu at all. I've been on Mint because of work03:50
hipitihop_Beldar, yup, done that too and filed as bug03:50
DF3D2isnt ls -al supposed to show everything?03:50
DF3D2very odd03:50
MyComputerIsGoneThat's what I had heard...it's ok, don't worry about it. So, does everything else seem to be in order now?03:51
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, okay well now you can unmount the drive then "sudo umount /media/usb1" or sudo umount /dev/sdb1"03:51
Beldarhipitihop_, Cool, hope you get it resolved, seems possible if the phones work on the live environments.03:51
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, yea unmount it and then go copy the files03:51
Beldarhipitihop_ you can bump threads every 24 hors at the forums, so be sure to do that to get it on the list.03:52
MyComputerIsGoneOk, the files seem to all be there on the other machine!03:53
hipitihop_Beldar, thanks, I'll poke about a little more while I have this livecd botted to try and compare diffs with installed, then will boot back to installed and add more comments re this experiment03:53
xanguaHow can I create a PDF out of images? or add Images as pages to one existing PDF?03:53
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, cool so we need to make a bootable iso again, plug that drive back in to this machine03:53
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, dont mount it though it isn't necessary03:54
MyComputerIsGoneDF3D2, I'm ready.03:55
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, okay sudo apt-get install wget03:56
Beldarxangua, Maybe libreoffice to a pdf, probably not the most elegant way.03:56
MyComputerIsGoneoh no03:56
MyComputerIsGoneDF3D2, not sure if I mentioned this to you at the beginning, but there was this whole thing with the unmet dependencies and such with libreoffice that prevents me from downloading anything even after an -f thingy03:57
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DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, do you have wget installed already?03:58
nitkcan anyone help me out in blocking traceroute utility using iptables?03:58
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, type wget03:58
anonymous__Hello03:58
MyComputerIsGoneDF3D2, wget: missing URL  + type wget --help seems to suggest that I have it.03:59
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, good!03:59
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, is this a 64bit machine ?03:59
MyComputerIsGoneYes it is.03:59
DF3D2perfect03:59
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, desktop?03:59
MyComputerIsGonelaptop, System 7604:00
DF3D2Idk what system 76 means04:00
DF3D2do you want Ubuntu Xubuntu Or Lubuntu ?04:00
MyComputerIsGoneoh uh sorry that's the brand name. Ubuntu please.04:00
SneakyTheBeaverHello guys, I'm trying to find my network adapter drivers on ubuntu, can someone help me find them ?04:00
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, cd ~/ && wget http://mirror.lstn.net/ubuntu-releases/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso04:00
somsipSneakyTheBeaver: for what adapter?04:01
SneakyTheBeaverI don't know =\04:01
hipitihop_it seems I don't have rights from livecd to drill down into home folders on my installed drive, what is the correct way from livecd04:01
douglg'night ladies and gents thanks again for the help :)04:01
SneakyTheBeaverI have windows on my hdd and ubuntu on my ssd and windows can't find the drivers so I thought I'd take the drivers I have on ubuntu which allow me to connect to the internet and put them on windows04:01
somsipSneakyTheBeaver: poste the output of 'sudo lshw -c network' to paste.ubuntu.com04:02
MyComputerIsGoneHm, DF3D2, it seems to be going at a pace that will end in 5 hours. is this the last step in the process?04:02
SneakyTheBeaverPCI (sysfs)04:02
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, is your internet slow or is that mirror slow ?04:02
somsip!pastebin | SneakyTheBeaver04:02
ubottuSneakyTheBeaver: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:02
MyComputerIsGoneHm, well my computer is rather new so I don't see how it could be the computer.04:03
SneakyTheBeaverpastebin.com/djqemQbd04:03
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, I mean your internet bandwidth04:03
DF3D2is it a fast connection or not?04:03
somsipSneakyTheBeaver: I have that and it works out of the box for me. What is the problem?04:04
SneakyTheBeaverI am trying to get it to work on windows04:04
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, if you think the problem is that mirror you can hit ctrl+c to cancel it and try with this... wget http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/13.10/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso04:04
somsipSneakyTheBeaver: go to ##windows then. Bye04:04
SneakyTheBeaverand it says no drivers fond04:04
Beldarhipitihop_, Have you looked at lsusb with the phines plugged to see hardware info for your searches?04:04
Beldarphones*04:04
SneakyTheBeaversomsip don't be like that, I said I am trying to find the ubuntu drivers04:04
MyComputerIsGoneAccording to family sources the internet is "fine"...04:04
SneakyTheBeaverbecause windows doesn't have them04:05
SneakyTheBeaverCan you help me find the drivers so I can put them on the windows harddrive?04:05
hipitihop_Beldar, yes, its the same as my installed04:05
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, well try the other mirror I gave you, it is listed as 10gbps connection so if it takes 5 hrs also then it would be based on your internet speed04:05
Beldarhipitihop_, Cool, at tomes it takes a closer look is all.04:05
Beldartimes*04:05
SneakyTheBeaveranyone know where drivers for network adapters are stored on ubuntu 13.1?04:06
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, anyway write this down ... when you get the iso file, you want to do "sudo dd if=/home/username/filename.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M"04:06
MyComputerIsGoneI'd say 33 minutes is a pretty good improvement, DF3D2 =)04:06
Ira_LDoes anyone know of a new laptop on which it is easily possible to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8.1?04:07
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, make sure with sudo fdisk -l ur drive is still /dev/sdb04:07
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, DO NOT mix up the "if" and "of" sections04:07
DF3D2total failure if so.04:07
SneakyTheBeaveranyone?04:07
DF3D2noone04:08
nitkcan anyone help me out in blocking traceroute utility using iptables?04:08
BeldarIra_L, Not really a channel issue and really a poll which is not allowed.04:08
SneakyTheBeavernobody knows where network adapter drivers are stored?04:08
DF3D2SneakyTheBeaver, in the krnel04:08
DF3D2SneakyTheBeaver, they are kernel modules04:08
MyComputerIsGoneHm, I see.04:08
pvl1!modules | SneakyTheBeaver04:08
ubottuSneakyTheBeaver: To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubottu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubottu blacklist04:08
Bashing-omSneakyTheBeaver: cross platforms does not work ! Drivers used in 'buntu will not be installable/usable in Windows.04:08
SneakyTheBeaveroh :(04:08
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, after that you can simply reboot the computer and in the bios select the USB drive as the first boot option04:08
DF3D2and install ubuntu04:09
aaaaaI have a question about installing ubuntu, can anyone help me?04:09
somsip!ask | aaaaa04:09
ubottuaaaaa: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:09
MyComputerIsGoneThank you very much, DF3D2.04:09
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, it will take a little while to run the DD command so just let it go until it is done it will say something about it copied X Mb in X time or something04:09
BeldarIra_L, Here is a certified link, but many work that are not listed, I have both on my toshiba, but it is a msdos no uefi. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/04:09
MyComputerIsGoneMight I ask, did you know all that from memory?04:09
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, yes :-)04:09
MyComputerIsGoneCool!04:10
MyComputerIsGoneThanks again, I really appreciate it.04:10
DF3D2I've been on linux on and off for 10-15 years04:10
DF3D2yep ill be on for a bit feel free to ask if you need any help04:10
pvl1!ask | aaaaa04:10
ubottuaaaaa: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:10
aaaaaI'm installing ubuntu on a laptop, and the laptop already had an operating system installed. I partitioned the hard drive so that there was only one partition: that of the original operating system, and then some free space. I installed ubuntu and checked the box that read "install along my current operating system", and was wondering if that means that ubuntu will install in the free space on my hard drive?04:10
pvl1aaaaa: yes04:11
DF3D2MyComputerIsGone, for the record none of that is high level stuff -- im no linux expert by any means but I get around OK.04:11
aaaaaalright, thanks pvll04:11
aaaaaor, pvl104:11
pvl1no problem aaaaa just be sure you have enough room for ubunut04:11
hipitihop_Beldar, understand. The puzzling thing is lsusb and dmesg seem to produce same output from both the live and my installed 12.04.3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707166/04:12
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ronishawhat software package can I use to fill out a pdf form?04:12
nitkHow to block traceroute utility using iptables? (ICMP)04:13
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ronishanitk: iptables -A INPUT -t ICMP -j REJECT or something like that04:13
DF3D2does anyone else have an issue where no kernel after .12 works with usb mice/kbs ?04:14
DF3D2I cant use anything but .12 or I have a total lack of mouse/kb functionality04:14
pvl1nitk: please ask in #networking04:14
DF3D2nitk, im sure you can google that pretty easily04:14
ronishanitk: or google it :)04:14
DF3D2^04:14
erghadzhello again,,,  Is anyone here familiar with synchronizing to a public time server with openelec?04:15
nitkronisha: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type 8 -j DROP. I used this, but didn't work04:15
erghadzI don't know how to do it.04:15
ronishanitk: try leaving out the --icmp-type part04:16
ronishanitk: and don't drop, try rejecting04:16
somsip!ntp | erghadz04:16
ubottuerghadz: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)04:16
xentity1xhi, i just upgraded to 13.10 now when i try to to load a bin file with pcsx the program crashes, anyone know why?04:16
somsiperghadz: hang on...openelec? You need the openelec support channel04:16
erghadzsomsip: they're all dead04:17
erghadzsomsip: I tried that first, then I tried #linux04:17
somsiperghadz: it's not something we suport here. The openelec forums are very active. Maybe try searching there04:17
erghadzmaybe I typo'd04:17
ronishawhat ubuntu package can I use to edit pdf for? (I need to fill a form out and email it back)04:18
erghadzsomsip: I have... I dunno if I am just searching wrong04:18
xentity1xhi, i just upgraded to 13.10 now when i try to to load a bin file with pcsx the program crashes, anyone know why?04:18
nitkronisha: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j REJECT. Doesn't work..!!04:18
DF3D2ronisha, rejecting lets someone know you exist though04:19
somsipxentity1x: with what error?04:19
DF3D2better to just drop I think?04:19
ronishanitk: google my friend, I'm not sure im just going off quick memory04:19
pvl1xentity1x: run with     -psxout04:19
ronishaDF3D2: I thought it was the other way around :)04:19
DF3D2ronisha, maybe not sure entirely04:19
DF3D2:-P04:19
xentity1xsomsip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707202/04:20
nitkFrom last 24hrs..I'm struggling for it. I did all the possible ways. Hope you will help me in this..04:21
Beldarhipitihop_, The lsusb should be basically the same, as a guess the dmesg might have differentials depending on some variables, command, kernels and drivers...etc.04:21
somsipxentity1x: so there is a bug in the program according to that. You should report it as an issue to the author. However, it might be worth updating pcsx first. This might help on 13.10 (assuming you use the same PPA) http://is.gd/PTp9ly04:21
Beldardmesg is not something I ever really use have npt really needed it myself, hipitihop_ I learn what I need basically.04:22
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Beldarnot*04:22
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Cheryl_c_I have ubuntu 14.o404:25
somsip!14.04 | Cheryl_c_04:25
ubottuCheryl_c_: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+104:25
Cheryl_c_When I try to use the Ubuntu 14.4 software center it hangs up the computer. I have to reboot to get out of it.  Any suggestions would be helpful04:26
ses1984i tried to get nvidia proprietary drivers running on my system, now i just get a black screen04:26
ses1984if i move the mouse around, I see a cursor that looks like gnome hasn't loaded04:27
ses1984if i ctrl-alt-f1 or another, i just see no output to the monitor or just a cursor04:27
ses1984i can't log in at all. actually i am able to log in over SSH but i'm troubleshooting and failing04:28
somsipCheryl_c_: as the bot said, support for 14.04 is in #ubuntu+104:28
Cheryl_c_Sorry that was Ubunto 13.1004:28
ses1984every time i sudo service lightdm restart, i just get the same weird X cursor04:28
somsipses1984: how did you install the new drivers?04:28
ses1984sudo apt-get install nvidia-current04:29
ses1984then lightdm restart04:29
somsipses1984: looks normal. Did that process complete okay? No errors? All kernel modules built and everything?04:29
ses1984i have tried to sudo X -configure, and move the xorg.conf file in /etc/X1104:29
ses1984i think the command completed successfully04:30
ses1984i have actually tried to remove and purge that04:30
BeldarCheryl_c_, run in the terminal software-center and look for errors04:30
pvl1session problem04:30
somsipses1984: so you have now purged them, or are they installed?04:30
pvl1ses1984: what do you use, unity?04:30
ses1984i tried to sudo X -configure and copy that config file in, according to Xorg.0.log it was pulling that in04:30
smacktalk1is there a way to stream one line of text into a file using sed?  I can't figure out the command stucture from the man page...04:30
Cheryl_c_Beldar: How do I do that? I am a newbie04:31
ses1984somsip i tried to re-install them i dont remember if i purged it just now. secoind please04:31
somsipsmacktalk1: sed 's/this/that' file > outputfile04:31
ses1984pvl1: yes04:31
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BeldarCheryl_c_, OPen a terminal ctrl-alt-t then type in software-center and hit enter, then look for errors04:31
somsipsmacktalk1: though as I type that, I wonder if I know what I'm on about...04:32
Guest4742 04:32
pvl1ses1984: in a tty, can you try startx & unity&04:32
pvl1or idk what the command to run a unity session is04:32
pvl1Beldar: ^^04:32
pvl1do u?04:32
somsipsmacktalk1: apparently I did http://is.gd/tG1ug404:32
ses1984i cant get a direct tty, only ssh, do i have to pass it some parameters about which display to use04:33
somsipses1984: you can check the X error log if you can ssh...04:33
pvl1ses1984: yes04:33
pvl1probably04:33
ses1984the error log doesn't show me anything obvious that would explain why i see an X cursor but nothing else is loading and i cant even get a tty04:33
ses1984let me paste it04:33
somsipses1984: so are we assuming that the drivers are installed and you didn't purge them?04:34
pvl1ses1984: i just said, its because your session isnt loading. probably nothing to do with xserver itself. just a session script04:34
BeldarCheryl_c_, Basically this is just an attempt to open the software center to see if any errors show that may indicate the problem.04:35
hipitihop_Beldar, understand, I do same re only learn what I need, but other unrelated experiments some time back to do with lirc usb device, tought me that while lsusb may see the device, it is the dmesg details that can give hints as to what kernel module/driver may be grabbing it or failing04:36
Beldarhipitihop_, Heh, true, I'm just an armchair user in the end, my studies are in many other areas is all.04:37
ses1984somsip: i purged them04:37
somsipses1984: k04:37
* hipitihop_ boots back to installed 12.04.304:38
ses1984pvl1: if i try to startx i get a message about user not authorized.04:38
ses1984if i sudo i get this: xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused04:38
ses1984i'm trying to look up about passing a display parameter04:39
pvl1ses1984: killall x first04:39
ses1984Xorg.log if i use the xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707244/04:39
smacktalk1this is what I'm trying to do...add this line of text to the psmouse.conf file something like sed -e '/options psmouse proto=imps/'  > /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf04:39
ses1984without http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707257/04:39
Cheryl_c_Beldar: here is the output -2014-01-06 23:33:21,970 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.views.lobbyview - WARNING - skipping exhibit for: 'u'amnesia-amfp'' not available 2014-01-06 23:33:25,937 - softwarecenter.region - WARNING - failed to use geoclue: 'org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Geoclue.Master was not provided by any .service files' 2014-01-06 23:33:28,511 - softwarecenter.db.utils - INFO - software-04:39
ses1984killall x: no process found04:40
somsipsmacktalk1: the destination file will need sudo access. Use 'sudo tee' to write to it. I'll look for an example04:40
smacktalk1thanks  :)04:40
smacktalk1i'm root04:40
somsipsmacktalk1: Urgghh.04:41
somsipsmacktalk1: A safer approach http://is.gd/P7G6wK04:41
Psil0CybinHey guys sorry I was having a problem attempting to install Ubuntu Server without a CD Drive on the server computer. I downloaded the ISO, Burned it with Startup Disk Creator, It would not work. I attempted to follow a few guides somsip and a few others listed, but it did not seem to work...someone suggested that guide was out of date?04:42
Psil0CybinSorry I am just home now, I was stressing at work because I never had that problem with an ISO install of Ubuntu server...odd.04:42
somsipPsil0Cybin: what version are you using?04:42
Psil0Cybin12.04 LTS.04:42
somsipPsil0Cybin: so the guide is appropriate.04:42
BeldarCheryl_c_, Try running in the terminal this command to see if you have any broken packages, I do see a bug with the software center, so run this. sudo apt-get -f install04:42
somsipPsil0Cybin: did you get the second link with more verbose instructions on it?04:42
Psil0CybinI attempted to use the guide, the problem is that when following the guide it suggested that it would allow me to add commands after I select Do not boot from CD. I found the menu to add commands in, and followed the commands...even figuring out that it was sda ! but when I did Alt+F4. It did not work, and nothing happened.04:43
BeldarCheryl_c_, I forgot to ask if you have run any updates as well.04:43
Psil0CybinI did not get a chance to get to the second link which someone suggested was newer.04:43
Psil0Cybincould someone perhaps please relink it?04:43
Psil0CybinMost of the googling I did sugggested to try other burning methods...04:44
somsipPsil0Cybin: [03:16] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: try a more recent version, that has possibly more verbose instructions http://is.gd/AxBJ1I04:44
Psil0Cybinty looking at it now04:44
somsipPsil0Cybin: k. Glad you've calmed down a bit now...04:44
Psil0Cybinthe guide is for windows.04:44
Psil0CybinI am using Ubuntu 12.04 to burn the Iso :)04:44
Psil0Cybinyea, sorry I was really freaking out at work, never had these issues...sigh04:45
somsipPsil0Cybin: scroll down... Maybe I spoke too soon about you calming down :/04:45
Psil0Cybinbut yes I am much more calm now.. ahah!04:45
Beldarlol04:45
Cheryl_c_Output = Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:   sbsigntool Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Yes I have done updates to all my software04:45
Psil0Cybinsomsip04:45
Psil0Cybini am printing that guide now, to bring to work for tomorrow.04:45
Psil0CybinI will give it a try, anything else I can print as well?04:46
Psil0Cybinif incase this does not work?04:46
Psil0Cybinor this "should" be the solution.04:46
somsipPsil0Cybin: the issue seems to be that you need to mount the USB in a way to fool the installer into thinking it's the CD. That's all. I've only looked for these two guides (other as previous)04:46
Psil0Cybinooohhh04:46
Psil0Cybinokay04:46
Psil0Cybinbut why  must I fool the installer? is there no installer for just a plain usb install?04:46
Psil0Cybinor was it the way it was burned?04:46
Psil0CybinI am just confused why this happened :P04:47
Psil0Cybinjust as a FYI type thing, so I know04:47
Psil0Cybinand learn04:47
somsipPsil0Cybin: There are plenty of instances of this happening which suggests it's a real problem. If you want a solution, try these and read more around it. If you want to bug report once you know what you want to say, great04:47
Psil0Cybinyea thanks04:47
Psil0Cybinvery helpful somsip :)04:47
somsipPsil0Cybin: np04:48
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Psil0Cybinnext I have to learn if my system is a hardware raid or software raid04:48
Psil0Cybinsigh04:48
Psil0CybinI have alot to do :( tomorrow.04:48
Ben64you should know if its hardware raid04:48
Psil0CybinI think it was a hard ware raid, becasue they put it together04:48
Psil0Cybinwith the drives, in the store04:48
Psil0Cybinand said I just need to configure ubuntu :S for it04:48
Ben64who are "they"04:48
Psil0CybinTiger Direct04:48
Psil0Cybinin Canada.04:48
TheAndrewKI'm having a lot of trouble booting into my machine - many times, it just shows a black screen with a blinking cursor. Wasn't having issues this morning, but moved hardware into a new case and now getting this :(04:48
Psil0CybinTheAndrewK: sounds like perhaps a driver issue??04:49
BeldarCheryl_c_, Hmm two not upgraded, have you been using the update manager gui and have you seen any partial upgrade warnings?04:49
Ben64!nomodeset | TheAndrewK try this04:49
ubottuTheAndrewK try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:49
Psil0CybinI get the black screen alot TheAndrewK.04:49
Psil0Cybinnomodeset is good to try04:49
sdn3rdhow long after you issue dput will it take to see packages in your PPA?04:49
TheAndrewK@ubottu, @Ben64: I'll try that.04:49
Psil0CybinBen64: so if they set up the raid while they built the computer04:49
TheAndrewK@Psil0Cybin: it was working this morning, so I doubt drivers04:49
Psil0CybinI am assuming its a hardware raid :P04:49
ses1984so any ideas...04:49
somsipsdn3rd: PPAs are not suported here. You need to ask the package maintainer04:50
sdn3rdI made the package04:50
sdn3rdI am uploading it to my PPA04:50
somsipsdn3rd: then *your* PPA packages are not suported here. Try Launchpad support page04:50
sdn3rdI did, doesnt tell me how long it takes to see it :P04:51
sdn3rdanyhow thanks for not being helpful ;)04:51
rwwsuch rules very harsh04:51
rwwsdn3rd: #launchpad might help :)04:51
linuxlite1969any one knows for the VLC update here??04:51
Cheryl_c_After I use the upgrade manager and reboot I see several failure warnings upon reboot before the gui kicks in04:51
sdn3rdrww: thanks much :)04:52
Cheryl_c_Beldar: After I use the upgrade manager and reboot I see several failure warnings upon reboot before the gui kicks in04:52
Psil0Cybin I just got a server, for work...I asked them to raid the system and they said they did it while they built the computer does that mean its a hardware raid or a software raid? how can I find out?04:53
Psil0Cybinwoops >.<04:53
Psil0Cybindidnt mean to repost it04:53
TheAndrewKtrying the 'nomodeset' parameter and it still falls to a black screen w/ blinking icon :(04:55
BeldarCheryl_c_, So I'm trying to put together the reboot associated with the update manager, generally you would only with a few installs there, kernel upgrades/updates is one. The errors you see may or may not be related to the software center, best to save them if possible and pastebin them for posting.04:56
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TheAndrewKone issue I found is if I try to scroll over while editing the GRUB options (hitting left/right arrow keys), after a bit, my system will freeze.04:57
TheAndrewKany idea why that is?04:57
BeldarCheryl_c_, I think you will need more experienced help than mine here as well.04:57
TheAndrewKsystem temp (as reported in bios) seems pretty high...04:58
TheAndrewKbut all case fans and processor fans are spinning fine04:58
BeldarTheAndrewK, Just so you know we don't use @ you would use the nick and a comma or : or just tab complete nicks.04:59
TheAndrewKBeldar:ah yeah, sorry :)04:59
Beldarhehe no biggie04:59
Cheryl_c_Beldar: Thanks for your help so far.  I am still working on it. Anyone else out there knows how to get Ubuntu to not hang at the software center?04:59
smacktalk1this worked better    echo "this is a text to append" >> filename04:59
TheAndrewKBen64:nomodeset seems to have no effect sadly.05:00
jakismy internet keeps disconnecting, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and im on a wireless connection05:02
jakiswhat could be the problem05:02
TheAndrewKBen64: seems I get a freeze when I am editing GRUB entries and using the arrow keys05:02
jKlausdoe anyone know of an ubuntu variant that is geared towards development?05:04
jKlausDoes*05:04
jakismy internet keeps disconnecting im on a wireless connection, and on ubuntu 12.04lts, what could be the problem?05:04
jKlausjakis.. I had the same issue with one wireless adapter.  It was the driver it was using05:05
jKlausHad to install the latest driver, problem solved.05:05
jakisjKlaus, how do i do that?05:05
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jKlausGoogle it.. figure out what chipset your device has then start googling  most likely many others have already solved the problem for you.. and give you a step by step on how to fix it05:06
TheAndrewKi was able to select the recovery boot option in GRUB, but it halts/freezes on "msgmni has been set to 15964"05:06
jakisjKlaus, ok thank you buklau05:06
TheAndrewKI don't see anything error-like or suspicious05:06
TheAndrewKa blinking cursor is below05:06
TheAndrewKI can't hit CTRL+ALT+F1 or anything of that sort.05:07
TheAndrewKCTRL+ALT+DEL also does not trigger a reboot05:07
jKlausnp jakis.. figuring out the chipset will tell you what driver you need.  From there you'll easily be able to figure out if thats the problem05:07
TheAndrewKrebooting...05:07
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F^3Any recommendations for WMs to check out besides Gnome, Unity, KDE, XFCE, and dwm?05:11
smacktalk1what's the best rdp client?05:12
F^3smacktalk1, rdesktop05:12
SchrodingersScatF^3: I've heard good things about 'awesome' and 'wmii'05:12
F^3(for the lazy http://awesome.naquadah.org/)05:13
packetscaperhi guys05:13
TheAndrewKstill unsure why this isn't booting :(05:14
somsipF^3: it depends what you are looking for. What functionality do you want?05:14
F^3TheAndrewK, What's the problem?05:14
TheAndrewKF^3:have had multiple issues so far: booting normally kicks me to a black screen with a blinking cursor; recovery booting freezes after a bit05:15
TheAndrewKwill attempt again05:15
F^3somsip, Clean, minimalistic, and just a WM and not a full DE. A background image/menu launcher would be a huge bonus.05:15
F^3I was thinking about looking into xmonade (sp?) or i305:15
TheAndrewKbooting 3.11.0-1405:16
somsipF^3: tiling or non-tiling?05:16
TheAndrewKfreezes this time after handling cdrom and detecting usb device (my card reader)05:16
TheAndrewKfroze in a different place last time.05:16
TheAndrewKi've tried booting live CDs with no success either.05:16
F^3somsip, If it can only tile text (terminal) based apps and float gui windows that would be a huge bonus.05:16
F^3TheAndrewK, Sounds like an xorg driver issue. What video card?05:16
TheAndrewKGeForce GTX 26005:17
TheAndrewKit was working this morning before I migrated the hardware into a new case, though05:17
F^3Oh.. missed your last message. Did you already install it?05:17
TheAndrewKso I'm a bit stumped if there are driver issues05:17
packetscaperguys I have recently installed Ubuntu in my Dell inspiron. eveything is working fine but I am getting a lot cpu utilization even when a tab is opened05:17
F^3Hmm. What about unplugging the USB and cdrom device?05:17
packetscaperI think there is some issue with graphics card driver05:17
TheAndrewKF^3:worth a shot :)05:17
F^3packetscaper, It wouldn't stall so early on from what I understand.05:18
packetscaperpzl suggest something05:18
F^3TheAndrewK, if it was working on the other case it might be an issue with a shorting as well (unlikely)05:18
somsipF^3: possible the family of awesome/xmonad/dwm as they should allow per-screen layouts. EG: I use awesome and tile everything, but screen 1 has mail and skype, screen 2 has irc and browser, etc... Any of the screens could be floating rather than tiling. Throw in feh and dmenu and you might have what you need05:18
TheAndrewKyeah, this case is brand new so05:18
packetscaperI have installed it before05:18
packetscaperand have worked on it05:18
F^3somsip, Would it be possible to make it auto float though? I know I can manually float windows.05:19
mojtabaHi, Does anybody know how can I have Apple's Mac fonts in Ubuntu?05:19
TheAndrewKF^3:attempting a boot now.05:19
mojtabaOr simply use nicer fonts?05:19
somsipF^3: I can only advise on awesome. Yes. You setup rules based on window names, so Chrome will always float no matter which window it is on (example)05:20
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F^3somsip, Hmm. Would it be possible to add a rule to float everything and manually set x windows to tile?05:20
Angel_Of_Sorrowwhy05:21
Angel_Of_Sorrow?05:21
rwwAtlantic777: why what05:21
rwwerm05:21
rwwAngel_Of_Sorrow: why what05:22
Angel_Of_Sorrowim not sure05:22
Angel_Of_Sorrowi got banned for no reason05:22
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TheAndrewKF^3: this time, recovery boot - froze again at sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk05:22
somsipF^3: I'm not sure it would. Better to have terminals fixed to a specific screen and tile them there. If you don't get the idea of screens that have different layouts, maybe awesome is not what you need. Dunno about dwm and xmonad though05:22
rwwAngel_Of_Sorrow: go talk to #ubuntu-ops, then05:22
Angel_Of_Sorrowi tried loging in yesterday05:22
Angel_Of_Sorrowand i was banned05:22
Angel_Of_Sorrowive been good though05:22
Angel_Of_Sorrowgood05:22
rwwAngel_Of_Sorrow: go talk to #ubuntu-ops, then05:22
somsipAngel_Of_Sorrow: if you continue asking about that here, you will be banned again05:22
Angel_Of_Sorrowah05:22
Angel_Of_Sorrowapologies05:22
F^3somsip, 90% of the time I use my PC as a HTPC05:22
F^3TheAndrewK, Sounds like SDC is busted and the kernel can't register the device halting the boot.05:23
TheAndrewKhmm, ok05:23
F^3so only one screen is used. I kind of like the idea of having terminal apps as part of my background I suppose.05:23
TheAndrewKI'll see if I can boot a live CD I suppose.05:23
somsipF^3: all the above still applies. But this is not really ubuntu support so I'm going to stop the OT chat at that. Hope you find something useful for you05:23
Angel_Of_Sorrowno05:23
jakisAngel_Of_Sorrow, no05:23
F^3Thanks. I'll look into them in the morning.05:24
somsipF^3: np05:24
TheAndrewKattempting a live CD...05:25
TheAndrewK:( gah05:25
TheAndrewKthrown to a black screen with blinking white cursor for the live CD, even.05:26
TheAndrewKis there any way to figure out why the live CD is also throwing me to a black sceen/blinking cursor?05:26
pvl1are .desktop files unity specific05:28
Angel_Of_Sorrow1what improvements has ubuntu made since 2007 (When i last used it)? You see I've been a windows again man until recently??05:29
pvl1Angel_Of_Sorrow1: usability, eye candy, theyve developed platforms for all kinds of mobile devices tvs05:30
pvl1Angel_Of_Sorrow1: go as in #ubuntu-offoptic05:30
somsipAngel_Of_Sorrow1: grab a live CD and see for yourself05:31
mintyzwho can help me with my ubuntu installation issue...... <---- rookie05:31
pvl1mintyz: whats up05:31
mintyzafter installation, seems i've lost my windows os05:32
pvl1mintyz: can you describe your installation process please05:32
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packetscapereven i am having an installation issue05:33
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packetscapermy cpu temperature is high, battery is killing fast but cpu utilization is normal05:34
mintyzinstalled ubuntu, fixed the grub loader issue and still no windows 7 showing05:34
pvl1packetscaper: what laptop05:34
F^3packetscaper, Heat sink issue?05:34
mintyzand when i tried to fix the windows boot loader, nothing for windows is finding my OS....05:34
packetscaperDell inspiron05:34
F^3Oh.. I didn't see the battery part, sorry.05:34
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pvl1packetscaper: drivers/modules05:34
sleepie^What do most people use in place of VMware on Ubuntu for virtualizing ISO's?05:34
pvl1!modules | packetscaper05:35
ubottupacketscaper: To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubottu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubottu blacklist05:35
F^3sladen, Do you mean for reading ISOs or actually executing the code?05:35
pvl1mintyz: how did you try to fix windows bootloader05:35
rwwF^3: (mistab)05:35
FloodBot1!netsplit05:39
pvl1!virtualization | sleepie^05:39
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:39
ubottusleepie^: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !kvm is the preferred approach in Ubuntu.  See also !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications05:39
mintyzpvl1: is there any way to check if my windows os is still intact through ubuntu?05:41
kseifriedso I log into ubuntu 13.04 it tells e to run do-release-upgrade, which then tells me no new version available. hints?05:42
sleepie^!virtualization05:42
pvl1kseifried: apt-get update05:42
kseifrieddid that05:42
kseifriedah dns nevermind05:42
pvl1lol05:42
pvl1!virtualization | sleepie^05:42
ubottusleepie^: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !kvm is the preferred approach in Ubuntu.  See also !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications05:42
kseifriedman do-release-upgrade needs better errors :P05:43
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pvl1!lxde | packetscaper05:44
ubottupacketscaper: LXDE ( http://lxde.org/ ) is the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment used by !Lubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ». See http://lubuntu.net/ for more information, and join #lubuntu for support.05:44
sleepie^test05:44
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Wugsucks when the person you're helping splits off of the network05:44
acts__hello05:44
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pvl1mintyz: yes05:44
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mintyz??? :)05:45
linuxlite1969vlc update? command???05:45
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pvl1mintyz: can you please pastbin the output of ssudo blkidudo blkid05:47
pvl1sudo blkid05:47
pvl1sorry05:47
linuxlite1969vlc update command anyone know???05:49
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somsiplinuxlite1969: how did you install vlc?05:50
somsiplinuxlite1969: are you using ubuntu or linuxlite?05:50
linuxlite1969linuxlite/ubuntu 12.0405:51
mintyzone sec05:51
linuxlite1969<somsip> loinuxlite/12.0405:51
somsiplinuxlite1969: linuxlite is not supported here. join #linuxlite05:52
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FloodBot1!netsplit05:52
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:52
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tr0nany way to ubdate the touchpad drivers from command line?06:00
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_jamanyone know of a good PPA for virtualbox 4.3 for saucy? The oracle one might as well just have a script that downloads the 'universal' installer and screws everything up06:01
somsiptr0n: the way to do all updates is 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' but whether it picks up the touchpad drivers as changed depends on the release of a new package06:02
somsip!ppa | _jam06:02
ubottu_jam: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge06:02
tr0nwell im running 1204 lte on a chromebook, but i'll try it, thnx06:03
mintyzplv1: sorry, took a #2   but here it is : http://pastebin.com/c3dyDU0r#06:03
_jamsomsip: yea, that page is giving me a timeout error. thus the reason I'm here  :)06:03
_jamalso hadn't found anything with google06:03
Beldar_jam, Never had trouble with vbox from oracle what happens when you use it?06:03
_jamunfortunately, the virtualbox that ships in 13.10 is pretty seriously broken06:04
somsip_jam: looks like launchpad may be done. So even if you find an unsupported PPA you wont be able to use it until launchpad is up. See recursion.06:04
_jamBeldar: well, for one thing, it doesn't conform to the package layout of debian/ubuntu. it is just one big monolithic package06:04
somsip*down06:04
ripthejackerHi everyone I have a problem with my display, none of the application have a window, i.e no close button , no window resizing etc.06:04
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ripthejackerNot sure if problem with unity or compiz. Please help06:05
ripthejackerI cannot switch applications, so I can't even use my browser to search06:05
_jamand then it doesn't have the ubuntu/debian-specific guest installation stuff, it just installs all of their stuff in various folders and you have to go through and use installation scripts06:05
_jamwhich is crap, since if I 'uninstall' the package, the stuff that the installation scripts isntalled will stick around06:06
ripthejackerplease help06:06
somsip_jam: Just wait until launchpad is up, and you should be able to find what you need.06:06
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Beldar_jam, vbox has it's own setup, are you sure what you actually want is any different than theirs rather than a ppa's...etc06:06
Jordan_Umintyz: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.06:07
Jordan_U!bootinfo | mintyz06:07
ubottumintyz: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).06:07
mintyzcopy that06:07
_jamBeldar: everything has its own setup. the point is that a PPA should follow the package layout of ubuntu/debian, that way apt/aptitude/etc can just choose the latest version of the package and go on06:08
Beldar_jam, Heh, not sure that is more than a opinion, not a real actuality.06:09
_jamwell, I've been on debian and ubuntu for over 10 years, and every 3rd party repository/PPA I've used has used that convention06:09
Beldar_jam, Most ppa's are modified ubuntu packages not a whole app from a 3rd party however.06:10
Beldaranyway good luck06:10
_jamBeldar: false. almost all software that ships with ubuntu (and therefore almost all PPAs that add to or replace existing versions of that software) is 3rd party06:11
_jamit is packaged in a way to be compatible and upgrade nicely. oracle shat on that without warning and now I'm stuck cleaning it up06:11
Beldarlol what ever you say, maybe a tranquilizer would be some help here.06:11
ripthejackerHi everyone, Window decorations are missing when I login using unity.06:19
xanguaripthejacker: did you install compiz settings manager?06:20
ripthejackerxangua: no06:20
ripthejackerAnd I get error dialogs for compiz and apport-gtk06:21
ripthejackerbut no such error in gnome-classic(no effects)06:21
mintyzubottu: I am getting a "command not found" after installation and using term06:21
ubottumintyz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:21
xanguaripthejacker: how about reset compiz settings?06:21
mintyzubottu: well i am only a human, dont think I am intelligent either......06:22
ubottumintyz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:22
ripthejackerxangua: I deleted the .compiz dir but the problem still exists06:23
mintyzjordan_u: no luck with the bootinfo script process....06:24
xanguaripthejacker: well then you could start with the error dialogs of compiz and apport-gtk you mentioned earlier06:24
ripthejackerxangua: low level function calls and all. I have no idea where to start.06:25
Beldarmintyz, You following the bootscript pages commands exactly, can you detail the process you did exactly?06:26
Beldarmintyz, YOu have to unpack the download as well.06:27
mintyzbeldar: downloaded the bootinfo script, unpacked at downloads folder, "  sudo ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript"06:27
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Beldarmintyz, Check you made any mistakes I have done this many times and just now with no problem.06:29
ripthejackerxangua: JFYI , I'm using ubuntu 12.1006:30
mintyzbeldar: I can just extract to the downloads section correct?06:30
Beldarmintyz, Download folder06:30
ripthejackerxangua: I'll try loggin in gnome with effects06:30
mintyzbeldar: correct06:30
mintyzbeldar: the folder after unpacking is bootinfoscript-06106:31
mintyzbeldar: in the downloads folder06:31
Beldarmintyz, That is the tars name you want to see the bootinfoscript textextracted out06:32
Beldartext extracted*06:32
mintyzbeldar: one sec beldar i think i got it :)06:34
mintyzbeldar:  http://pastebin.com/hh0QbwGn06:35
BeldarJordan_U, ^^^^06:36
mintyzor jordan....06:36
Fudgequick question, in unity launcher, the menu for an application like thunderbird/contacts compose mail etc, is that called a quick list?06:36
Beldarmintyz, I'm not real up on uefi, and all around the other user is more knowledgeable, and I have to take off shortly.06:37
mintyzbeldar: no prob, thanks for the help :)06:38
Beldarno prob06:38
sgo11for lxde, after running lxpanelctl restart, I lost my desktop icons. I think they are managed by pcmanfm, right? how to get them back? thanks.06:44
mintyzjordan_u still there???06:45
Beldarsgo11, even after a logout or reboot?06:46
sgo11Beldar, logout will solve the problem. I am wondering how to bring it back without logout. :)06:47
Beldarsgo11, I figured as such, not sure of an answer is all.06:47
utkarsh_hello06:49
utkarsh_anyone tried running wvdial in ubuntu ?06:50
kate`hello hello06:50
somsiputkarsh_: what is your real question?06:50
kate`can rpc.nfsd be convinced to bind() to a particular IP, rather than to 0.0.0.0?06:50
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utkarsh_wvdial is able to detect the modem and dial, but it is just resending the requests06:52
utkarsh_and then exiting06:52
somsiputkarsh_: this is a modem thing is it? Does it get a dial tone?06:54
utkarsh_ya it is a tata docom photon +06:54
utkarsh_I m trying to set up a PPP06:54
somsiputkarsh_: to where?06:54
utkarsh_it is dialer modem06:55
utkarsh_for internet 3 broadband06:55
utkarsh_connection06:55
utkarsh_i am able to connect to internet through network manager06:55
somsiputkarsh_: is this a company you pay for internet access?06:55
utkarsh_ya06:55
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somsiputkarsh_: you may need to speak to their technical support06:55
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cheryl_cWhen I start my PC I get a "grub rescue" prompt.  I have no idea how to work with this or get back to Ubuntu. I just triedinstalling WIndows 7 before I got the error07:04
somsipcheryl_c: it is possible w7 has overwritten some of the grub files.07:07
Cojakubuntu desktop , can be work as a server ?07:07
somsip!grub | cheryl_c07:07
ubottucheryl_c: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:07
somsipCojak: what do you want it to server?07:07
somsip*serve07:07
Cojaksomsip: have 5 pcs using ms software (windows) would like to install ubuntu on a separate machine and work as a server07:09
somsipCojak: serving what?07:09
Cojakmain derver (network) distribute to the 5 stations07:10
somsip!server | Cojak07:10
ubottuCojak: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server07:10
somsipCojak: but it sounds like you just want it to work as a router with what you say. Which it will do07:11
somsip!server-network | Cojak07:12
ubottuCojak: if you want to set up networking on a ubuntu server this should help http://www.sourceguru.net/archives/12407:12
Cojaksomsip: assumed ubottu has right , actually that what am looking for , thanx07:13
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bhaveshSometimes when I get out of fullscreen YouTube videos, in Ubuntu 13.10, Google Chrome, the Unity panel and top bar are missing. I need to unmaximize Google Chrome to bring them back. Is this a reported bug? Are there any ways to fix it?07:18
Guest30613quiet today07:22
Guest30613My Hard Drive is experiencing some excessive Thrashing - any suggestions?07:23
somsipGuest30613: what does iotop tell you?07:25
Guest30613I should take a snapshot of that the next time the Thrashing happens?07:25
somsipGuest30613: it's not continuous then? Yes, try to find out what is causing it when it's happening07:25
dshbusinessHi,all. I just download ubuntu 13.04 iso file. But I can't use dd to burn it into a usb disk.07:27
dshbusinessIt always shows that I have 2 partitions.07:27
Guest30613Yes yesterday it was really bad,I did change the disk speed settings for power saving features.  But even after increasing the speed to max there was still a Thrashing issue07:27
somsipGuest30613: I would suggest trying to find out what is doing it while it's happening07:28
SierraARWhat does 'thrashing' mean in this case?07:28
dshbusinessIt always dd a gpt table on my usb disk.07:28
Guest30613yes good suggestion, thinking along the same lines07:28
dshbusinessCould anyone help?07:28
Guest30613Thrashing  is excessive disk accessing07:28
somsipdshbusiness: explain what process you are following07:28
Guest30613which can slow your computer down horribly07:29
dshbusinessLike this: dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/deb/sdb07:29
dshbusinesssomsip: dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/deb/sdb07:29
somsipdshbusiness: and one more time with the correct destination...07:29
nerdtrondshbusiness: why would you dd ubuntu iso on flash drive?07:29
Guest30613Dont want my Hard Disk to blow up because of it lol07:30
dshbusinesssomsip: What do you mean correct destination? sdb1?07:30
dshbusinessnerdtron: For installation.07:30
somsipdshbusiness: /dev... not /deb... but see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#dd_image_of_iso_file_to_USB_device_safely07:30
dshbusinesssomsip: Sorry, my type mistake. It's dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb07:31
nerdtrondshbusiness: you don't have to dd the iso to create a bootable disk... you can use the startup disk creator for that..or unetbootin07:31
demondevilor lili if ur using windows07:31
somsipdshbusiness: that link I sent covers all eventualities. You need to be sudo if you do use dd though07:32
somsips/be sudo/use/sudo07:32
ripthejackernerdtron: I all had problems using startup disk creator, dd is hassle free07:32
ripthejacker*always07:32
dshbusinesssomsip: In fact I have use dd for a long time. It always works fine. But recently, it does not work.07:33
dshbusinesssomsip: I mean use dd to install ubuntu07:33
dshbusinessnerdtron: unetbootin cannot find right partition. It always let me use /dev/sdb207:34
somsipdshbusiness: size of usb stick?07:34
dshbusiness8.1GB07:34
dshbusinessAnd the iso is less than 1GB07:34
somsipdshbusiness: and can you paste the command you use and the error output (use paste.ubuntu.com)07:35
ripthejackerdshbusiness: delete all the partitions in the card, format as fat, and then try dd07:35
dshbusinesssomsip: It does not report any error. dd returns on sucess. But when I reboot my computer, my BIOS cannot recognize the usb disk.07:36
somsipdshbusiness: I'm guessing that would be a bootable flag then07:37
dshbusinessWhen I use gnome's disk utility to check the usb disk. It has two patitions now.07:37
somsipdshbusiness: you say this used to work, like with old versions of ubuntu? Which version are you dding now?07:38
somsipdshbusiness: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25476/how-to-make-a-usb-drive-bootable-after-live-image-is-copied-into-it-using-dd-c?lq=107:39
dshbusinesssomsip: 13.0407:39
somsipdshbusiness: also, checksum the iso...07:39
dshbusinesssomsip: md5sum has been checked.07:39
dshbusinessAnd it's right.07:39
somsipdshbusiness: http://askubuntu.com/questions/70303/cant-boot-after-a-dd-bios-reports-no-bootable-drives?rq=107:39
snufftI'm trying to devise a way to check if a site has been injected with malware. the atacker always puts a div after </html> but the id of the div changes every time. Can i just pipe wget to grep and somehow only check if there's anything after </html>?07:40
somsipI'm just searching and throw stuff out here. I have no immediate answer but there seem to be a lot of others with similar issues so maybe you can find something in there07:40
somsipsnufft: yes07:40
demondevilif u have windows installed or wine use this program07:41
demondevilhttp://www.linuxliveusb.com/07:41
dshbusinesssomsip: I'll try. Thanks.07:41
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demondevilbest program i have used for making linux bootable usbs07:41
dshbusinesssomsip: When I dd the iso to the usb disk, it will have an extra partition with partition type like this: "EFI (FAT-12/16/32)"07:42
Jordan_Udemondevil: That's intentional and expected.07:43
Jordan_Udemondevil: Is your boot firmware BIOS or UEFI?07:43
somsipJordan_U: (dshbusiness I think)07:43
demondevilmy bios isnt UEFI07:44
dshbusinessJordan_U: It is a UEFI, but I turned UEFI down.07:44
snufftsomsip, great! should i use grep/awk/sed or something else? my overall goal is just to find out if *anything* (except spaces and new lines) exists after </html> and then send an email to myself to tell me07:44
dshbusinessIt was used windows 8 at first.07:45
dshbusinessIt was using win8 at first.07:45
dshbusinesswith uefi07:45
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somsipsnufft: You probably want to wrap something like this in a script with your email commands in a condition http://is.gd/jG1h1H Of course, you'll need the grep pattern too07:45
snufftsomsip, no worries. thanks :)07:46
Jordan_Udshbusiness: Have you successfully booted from other USB drives on this machine?07:47
dshbusinessOnce, but that bootable usb disk is made on another computer.07:48
Jordan_Udshbusiness: For most machines at this point you'll have better luck booting Ubuntu via UEFI than CSM (the firmware's BIOS implementation).07:49
dshbusinessJordan_U: You mean I should open my uefi?07:49
rwwJordan_U: what does CSM stand for?07:49
dshbusinessI'll try. Thanks:)07:49
Jordan_Urww: Compatability Support Module07:50
rwwthanks07:50
Jordan_Urww: You're welcome.07:50
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glenfordhey guys how to join fedora channel07:58
glenfordfor ambassadors07:58
somsip!alis | glenford07:58
ubottuglenford: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*07:58
RavenI frequently use Skype and I sometimes want to use it from two different rooms, but using the same machine. If I connect two webcams to the same machine, running Ubuntu, what will happen? Is there a way I can switch from one webcam to the next?07:58
glenfordthanks07:59
ahreni installed ubuntu over the network and i installed also the xubuntu packages  how am i able to get a choice as to which window manager to use at startup?07:59
somsipahren: doesn't it show you a choice on the login screen? Id the login screen enabled07:59
somsip?07:59
ahrenno07:59
somsipahren: enable it, logout, try again07:59
ahreni checked ubuntu and xubuntu packages and it won't give me a login screen only the login screen for xubuntu08:00
ahrenhow do i do that08:00
ezra-sRaven, it will depend on the client, probably client can only be configured to use one cam at a time, use different clients, that is not an ubuntu question btw08:00
somsipahren: not sure - long time since I've done this. Somewhere in settings there will be a 'log in without password' or something similar. That bypasses lightdm login IIRC, if it's ticked.08:00
Ravenezra-s should I post in #linux?08:01
ezra-sRaven, I told you the answer08:01
ezra-sRaven, if you want to use skype you probably can't run it twice in the same session with the same user, so run it with two different users, configure the skype for each user to a different cam, problem solved08:02
ezra-slinux/ubuntu won't have problems detecting your usb devices plugged into it08:02
ezra-sanother matter are the drivers, but I bet most cams are handled well08:03
* hipitihop waves @ glitsj16 notes the hiding from hipitihop in fear, after yesterday's marathon08:03
Ravenezra-s so you're suggesting I make a separate user, so that I can do a second session, wherein I will run a second instance of skype08:03
ezra-sRaven, if Skype can't use two cams that is, I don't know skype sorry08:04
Ravenezra-s That is a good suggestion and I don't see why it wouldn't work... only I wish there were an easier way. Like a toggle switch utility, almost.08:04
ezra-sRaven, I'm guessing skype can't use two devices, in either case the problem won't be the OS, but the client08:04
dw-In gedit when I'm modifying a file over an FTP connection that I don't have write permission for if I try to save it says "Operation Failed" then crashes.  I then must do a killall gedit at terminal before it works again.  xkill alone doesn't do the trick.  Is this a known bug?  Where should I report it?08:04
somsipdw-: gedit requires X doesn't it? Use a text-only editor. Fix your permissions first. Maybe you mean SSH and not FTP...?08:05
ezra-sRaven, maybe there are alternatives to Skype which can do what you want, do some research, aka "internet search"08:05
dw-somsip: it's a nautilus ftp connection.  works fine when i fix permissions but if I don't check them manually first then I risk crashing and losing my whole workspace/tabs08:06
ahrensomsip, it has been a while since i used ubuntu what would i have to search for in google08:07
somsipdw-: ah - fair enough. That does sound buggy.08:07
* hipitihop reboots to try 12.04.3 live cd brb08:07
glitsj16hipitihop: hi again :) .. not hiding ... worse: gf windows machine trouble08:07
ahrensomsip, what is the name of the theme manager08:07
somsipahren: no idea. I don't use it08:07
Ravenezra-s I understand and agree, and believe me I'm certain there are clients that can do it, there are far more capable alternatives to skype but ultimately I find most don't work as well, and none are as user friendly for the other party08:07
DF3D2does anyone else have an issue where any kernel after .12 has no usb mouse/kb functionality?08:07
DF3D2.13 .14 .15 all have this issue08:08
hipitihopglitsj16, :-) eek, brb08:08
Ravenezra-s but I'll keep digging08:08
ahrensomsip, this seems to be a good answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/111400/can-i-install-unity-aside-with-xfce-and-switch-them-as-i-want08:11
somsipahren: I don't need links. I don't have the problem08:11
glitsj16hipitihop: did you do anymore work/research on the headset issue?08:29
ahrenwhat do most people use here xubuntu or regular ubuntu with unity or kde08:30
icerootahren: regular ubuntu08:30
rwwthis is #ubuntu not #xubuntu or #kubuntu, so... probably Debian08:30
hipitihopglitsj16, sigh yes, most of the day again, I feel I have so much time invested in the issue I hate to let it go at this point without understanding why08:30
ahrenmy system is a little older should i still run the newest ubuntu?08:31
BenderHey all. So, I have recently beeng getting this weird problem. And it seems to be happening more frequently now. My computer will randomly freeze up and my wifi fails. Then the screen may unfreeze for a moment or to and then freeze again. Then it remains unresponsive until I force the computer off. Can anyone help with this?08:31
ahrenalso i only have 2gb ram so i can still use the 32bit version right08:31
rwwahren: yes, and yes08:31
glitsj16hipitihop: understandable, but not much progress i take it?08:31
Benderahren: I think you need 32 gb of ram08:31
icerootahren: if your cpu supports 64bit you should use the amd64 version08:31
Benderhence it being 32 bit08:31
BenderDUHHH08:31
Bender....jk08:32
hipitihopglitsj16, no solution yet, but more interesting information, I did image my machine overnight to prepare to upgrade to 13.10...08:32
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hipitihopglitsj16, then somene here, I think Bender, suggested, running the 13.10 live cd is not 100% proof that upgrade would solve the problem...08:33
lucious77hello, anyone can tell current mir/u8 state for 14.04 ? installation the same as for 13.10 ?08:34
icerootlucious77: #ubuntu+108:34
hipitihopglitsj16, the suggestion was, try the same with 12.04.3 live , so after fluffing about, more downloads etc, I did, and suprise, it also works on 12.04.308:34
hipitihopglitsj16, so interesting info, but that leaves the $64k question, why08:35
glitsj16hipitihop: so that points to a configuration issue then it seems hmm08:35
glitsj16hipitihop: is the hid-generic (iirc) module getting properly loaded ?08:36
hipitihopglitsj16, indeed, so I just booted back again to the 12.04.3 live, and took some more detailed traces into pastebin so we can compare to installed 12.04.308:36
mindbender1I'm having problems similar to http://askubuntu.com/questions/316778/ubuntu-13-04-cant-login-to-unity-keep-going-back-to-login-screen-with-all-us08:36
glitsj16hipitihop: detective at work heh, good idea08:36
mindbender1the solutions there don't work for me. This is happening soon after upgrading to 13.0408:37
mindbender1I initially had only gnome panel showing but after enabling unity with ccsm unity started appearing alongside gnome-panel08:38
hipitihopglitsj16, give me a sec as I did a question and bug entry yesterday so I will update with latest pastbin links and then will point you08:39
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glitsj16hipitihop: sure, slept like a log so i think i've a fresher look than yesterday halfway thru the marathon08:39
uczen;)08:40
mindbender1I later did a dconf reset -f /org/compiz that's when my problem started08:40
hipitihopglitsj16, sounds good, although I'm on a promise to step away from the keyboard a bit today so won't getaway with much tinkering. You might have to just post comment on bug/answers08:41
glitsj16hipitihop: no problem, that windows machine needs some attention here too so forum posts suits me fine08:42
hipitihopglitsj16, simple suggestion for that windows machine, install ubuntu :-)08:43
glitsj16hipitihop: haha, i did make it dual-boot .. promises/compromises .. she games on it quite08:44
glitsj16hipitihop: she likes and feels at home in ubuntu, but for games it became a real mess08:45
hipitihopglitsj16, roll on steamOS08:45
glitsj16hipitihop: that's on the to-do list yes, also one of these hybrid GPU machines, so i've been putting it off to be honest08:46
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Codex_hello08:46
hardboot_so i have the sidebar on auto hide, is it possible to make reval more sensitive?08:51
hardboot_i have the slider maxed but it's still pretty pokey08:52
hipitihopglitsj16, see my comments at bottom of question with latest pastebin links from live 12.04.3 is https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/24176008:52
hipitihopglitsj16, correspnding bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/126634308:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 1266343 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Sennheiser USB headset not listed as device in aplay -l" [Undecided,Incomplete]08:53
glitsj16hardboot_: yes, it's a setting you can manipulate in ccsm i believe (compizconfig-settings-manager)08:53
hardboot_glitsj16: heh, forgot abotu that, was using tweak tool08:54
glitsj16hipitihop: thanks, i'll take a look after lunch and post if i have any input08:54
hipitihopglitsj16, cheers, good luck with windows machine. My phone will let me know if you post in the forums so I can come back to keyboard if you have an epiphany08:54
glitsj16hipitihop: deal, i rarely have them but who knows08:55
Codexxhello everyone08:58
uronuhello how to input a new password via webmin command shell08:58
uronuit directly input no password08:58
uronuthis is my command shell script in webmin "smbpasswd -r server -U uername08:59
* FiLoSsOfIe hello08:59
ikoniauronu: webmin is not supported with ubuntu09:01
uronuikonia: sorry, thanks.09:02
Kiaasis which version of fglrx is 2:13.125-0ubuntu1? is it 13.12, or is it an older version that got its name mangled by your versioning system?09:03
ikoniaKiaas: there is no 13:12 version09:04
Kiaas13.12 is the current version on AMD's site09:04
ikoniaKiaas: yes, but there is no 13.12 version of ubuntu09:04
ikoniaKiaas: ooh, I see what your asking09:04
Kiaasthen which version is that 13.125?09:04
ikoniaKiaas: sorry, I thought you where asking which version of ubuntu does it ship with09:04
Kiaasis it at least 13.9?09:05
ikoniaKiaas: no idea, query the package info and see if it tells you (I doubt it)09:05
snufftalright, who wants to help me write some bash? :P09:09
nerdtronsnufft: what do you want to write?09:09
DJonessnufft: Thats probably a good question to ask in ##bash09:09
somsipsnufft: so. You return...09:10
snufft:O !! there's a ##bash?!09:10
snufftsomsip, yes :(09:10
DJonessnufft: Pretty sure, may only be #bash, but I'm pretty sure its a double # channel09:10
snufftnerdtron, i need to scan a website for occurrance of html after </html>09:10
Bendersnufft: It's not what you think. It's an abused woman's support chat09:10
snufftBender, that's dark :P09:11
Bender:)09:11
snufftI like it :P09:11
somsipsnufft: have you sorted your grep pattern out yet?09:12
snufftsomsip, i switched to awk. Then it's just awk -F "</html>" '{print $2}'09:14
somsipsnufft: so what do you need to write?09:14
somsipsnufft: and will awk work if there is a newline between </html> and the dodgy code?09:14
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snufftsomsip, it should. i can curl -s http://www.google.com | awk -F "</html>" '{print $2}' | awk -F "<" '{print $2}'09:15
snufftthat way it'll just look for the next <09:16
somsipsnufft: I don't know awk well so will leave that to you. What do you need to write then?09:16
snufftsomsip, i don't need to write anything. i need to send myself an email if there's output09:19
snuffti thought i could bash sendmail?09:19
somsipsnufft: you can. man sendmail to find out how. If it's installed. If not, sendEmail is a simple wrapper for SMTP based email09:19
ikoniasendmail is not the default mta on ubuntu09:20
somsipsnufft: ikonia I do tend to use sendEmail for simple stuff like this09:20
maedoxsnufft, somsip: apt-get install postfix mailutils && mail -s subject recipient@domain <<< "mail body"09:20
JohnnyLhi, what is a good, safe, reliable and hard drive friendly (pictures) LAMP web provider?09:22
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allu2JohnnyL: I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask that :S09:24
somsipmaedox: I used to sending from Amazon instances which are usually blocked from direct sending, but thanks for the postfix suggestion. Looks easier than sendmail...09:24
maedoxsomsip: there's no blocking on Amazon instances other than what you block yourself. You might however get into trouble with the recipients SMTP because of SPF records and whatnot. It usually works fine though.09:26
snufftmaedox, i'll give it a shot, thanks!09:28
snufftsomsip, is sendEmail available from bash?09:28
somsipmaedox: snufft yes, it's a small cli program09:29
somsip!info sendEmail | snufft09:29
ubottusnufft: sendemail (source: sendemail): lightweight, command line SMTP email client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.56-4 (saucy), package size 28 kB, installed size 122 kB09:29
snufft_androidsomsip cheers :)09:31
somsipmaedox: spamhaus blocking all of EC2 address were a problem in the past. Maybe this has changed. OT anyway09:31
utkarsh_hi09:33
maedoxsomsip: ah, yes, that might be a problem of course. I use the eu-west AZ's and haven't had any trouble, but I changed to using a Google Apps account for sending emails a while back.09:33
utkarsh_I have recently been back to ubuntu after a long time, I did a fresh install but I am getting a lot cpu utilisation and high temperatures even when I am only opening firefox09:35
bezahai guise09:35
ikoniautkarsh_: look at what's eating the cpu09:35
ikoniabeza: "guys"09:36
Gallomimiautkarsh_: facebook open?09:36
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utkarsh_ohk i ran htop09:36
utkarsh_I am see wvdial --chat09:36
utkarsh_taking up all the cpu09:36
utkarsh_utilisaiton09:36
FloodBot1utkarsh_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:36
Gallomimiaannoying floodbot is annoying :(09:37
utkarsh_ohk09:37
Gallomimiaso, what is that process? (google might help) i'm not familiar with it09:38
ikonialegacy modem09:38
Gallomimiaew09:38
Gallomimiaare you on a dialup connection?09:38
Gallomimiautkarsh_: do you have a modem?  are you using it?09:39
utkarsh_ya I tried using wvdial09:40
cheryl_cdoes boot repair actually work?09:40
Gallomimiawell, my first instinct is to say "kill it" but that will probably disconnect you :)09:40
Asithadoes anyone know how to setup ipv6 properly on ubuntu? I'm completely stuck :(09:40
cheryl_cDoes boot repair actually work?09:40
ikoniaAsitha: define properly, the network-manager interface does it just fine normally09:41
utkarsh_ya I killed it now my cpu is back. I did a fresh install of Ubuntu in my Dell laptop but my laptop gets heated up abnormally, even when the cpu utilisation is low09:41
ezra-sAsitha, it's simple, ubuntu has network-manager, select your network interface, go to it's configuration, there should be a ipv6 tab09:41
AsithaI had recently moved from bluehost to my own vps and noticed a huge delay when I started using facebook authentication09:42
AsithaAfter various steps, when I disabled ipv6, the delay was gone and things were running fine again09:42
AsithaWhich leads me to believe there is some misconfiguration there that is causing the issue09:42
ikoniaAsitha: your reasoning is false09:42
AsithaI've also tried to use ping6 and it can't seem to connect to any host09:43
ikoniayou've just disabled ipv6 - how do you expect it to work09:44
AsithaI reenabled it and was testing it again09:44
ikoniaAsitha: do you have valid IPV6 networking information ?09:44
ikoniaAsitha: eg: a valid IPV6 IP for the network you ar eon09:45
ikoniaare on09:45
Asithayeah09:45
AsithaI have 3 ipv6 addresses09:45
ikoniaAsitha: I'm assuming you also have IPv4 addresses running on the same machine09:46
Asithayes09:46
ikoniaAsitha: ok, so I'd be looking at your ipv6 gateway as a starting point09:46
AsithaWhat should I be looking for there?09:47
ikoniaAsitha: a valid and reachable gateway09:48
ikoniaAsitha: this will make sure it's not trying to push the ipv6 out of the ipv4 gateway (if the ipv4 gateway can't handle that)09:48
ezra-sAsitha, is your network interface configured to dhcp for ipv6?09:48
Asithastatic I believe09:49
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ezra-sAsitha, and how and why did you choose to configure 3 different ipv6 addresses? where did you get those?09:49
AsithaI didn't choose it - I just noticed it was there when I got the server09:49
AsithaMy host was the one that provided it09:49
ikoniaif you don't need it why are you using it09:50
AsithaWell for one thing - I want to be able to have it working instead of disabling it completely09:50
ikoniaif it's causing you a problem disable it and forget about it09:50
ikoniaAsitha: why do you want it working if you're using ipv409:51
AsithaBetter to learn now, than to wait for it become popular and me becoming outdated :P09:51
AsithaAlso, I felt guilty when I posted on serverfault09:51
Asithaand some guy was like "don't pretend the issue doesn't exist"09:51
Asitha-_-09:51
ikoniaAsitha: then talk to your hosting provider and ask for details on their network09:51
AsithaSo I decided to try and figure out the fix09:51
ikoniaAsitha: your trying to configure something with no understanding of the network09:51
ikonia"I don't know it was there when I bought it" is not enough to know how to configure it properly09:52
ezra-sI'm with ikonia, to solve it you need to understand it a bit09:52
AsithaI guess you both are right09:53
ikoniaAsitha: your host should be able to give you the information to configure it, or give you the information so you can figure out what's wrong09:54
AsithaAlright - I'll just open a ticket and see what they can figure out09:55
Asithaor at least pass on to me09:55
merandusHello, i have messed up my sources.list  file. in this generator: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/  should i avoid ticking the source packages and backports?09:55
kismat_4uhi09:55
dreinullSomebody seeding the ubuntu torrents and also seeing lots and lots of peers with the same ip (+subnet) leeching09:56
kismat_4uhi all09:56
dreinullThey're sucking up all my bandwidth and doing some research shows they are not even completing their dl09:57
kismat_4uany cute girl wana talk09:57
ezra-sAsitha, 1º for your own host 1 ip should be fine, so having 3 is of no use to you unless you have specific needs. Ip's are usually assigned via dhcp, or assigned manually, in most cases ipv6 addresses are just local so they won't reach anywhere or just the lan they are in, not internet. If you had issues connecting somewhere and you found disabling ipv6 solved it , chances are the software you used tried to connect via ipv6 first and ipv6 is not conn09:57
ezra-sected to internet09:57
ikoniakismat_4u: that is not what this channel is for09:57
ikonia!topic | kismat_4u09:57
ubottukismat_4u: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic09:57
kismat_4uany u want09:57
ikoniakismat_4u: this is NOT the channel for that sort of chat09:58
AsithaThanks ezra-s09:58
kismat_4uok then which one is for that?09:58
ikoniakismat_4u: ask in #freenode09:58
kismat_4uchannel?09:59
ikoniakismat_4u: #freenode is the channel09:59
kismat_4uok thanx10:01
JohnnyLallu2: ok how about any recommendations please?10:01
rajrajrajehat is wheezy and sqeexy10:01
rajrajrajwhat*10:01
rajrajraj?10:01
ikoniaubuntu releases10:01
rajrajrajsqeezy*10:01
trat7Does Ubuntu 12.04 Server come with a firewall that is enabled? or Do I need to enable it meself?10:09
merandusI'm trying to do apt-get update with the new sources.list file, it throws me lots of error with gpg keys.10:15
kostkonmerandus, install this package:  ubuntu-keyring   obviously ignore the key warnings on this one10:17
meranduskostkon: ok just a sec10:17
meranduskostkon: it says it's already installed and newest version.  it says 66  not updated though10:19
merandushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6708309/10:19
merandusthats what i get for apt-get update10:19
kostkonmerandus, you could try sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring --reinstall && sudo apt-get upgrade10:22
kostkonmerandus, now that you have a sources.list file you could try to select a different mirror in updater settings10:23
karoogaHi, I'm trying to find a build log for saucy:openocd, but it says it was cancelled: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/openocd/0.7.0-110:24
karoogaHow can that be10:24
llutzmerandus: "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'"   wait a while until the us-mirror is available again or use a different mirror10:26
pikarenwindows + cygwin  or  ubuntu  ??10:26
llutzpikaren: for?10:27
pikarenprogramming10:27
merandusllutz: oh so the problem is with the mirrors?10:27
merandusi ping 8.8.8.8 and it replies so my connection should be working10:28
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llutzmerandus: "dig +short us.archive.ubuntu.com"10:29
merandusllutz: connection times out10:33
llutzmerandus: "dig @8.8.8.8 +short us.archive.ubuntu.com"10:33
merandusllutz: i get some IP numbers it seems10:34
llutzmerandus: check your dns-server10:34
merandusllutz: how can i do that?10:35
merandusllutz: should i edit resolv.conf?10:37
llutzmerandus: how is your network configured? router -> dhcp or static ips?10:37
ezra-smerandus, in default ubuntu resolv.conf is dynamically generated so if you use dhcp I recommend against it10:37
merandusllutz: it's a vps, hosted by EXSI10:37
merandusvmware EXSI it seems. the vps provider is using10:38
ezra-smerandus, if you use dhcp use /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf instead10:38
llutzmerandus: add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head  and run "sudo resolvconf -u" then10:38
llutzmerandus: or edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and set "prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8;"10:39
llutzmerandus: use any dns-server ip you want, 8.8.8.8 is google but there are other10:39
merandusllutz: should i do both of those? or just one.10:39
llutzmerandus: one10:39
merandusllutz: ok  on it10:40
ezra-s /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is dynamic if using dhcp10:40
llutzezra-s: base is, head shouldn't. or am i wrong?10:41
meranduswell, i don't know how vmware EXSI works, so, i assume i'll be doing the second one10:41
ezra-sllutz, #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN10:41
llutzezra-s: thats the statement to appear in /etc/rsolv.conf later10:41
ezra-sllutz, lol, sorry10:41
llutzezra-s: head is just copied to generate resolv.conf file10:42
ezra-sllutz, thanks, that clarifies it :)10:42
khaotixhi i am trying to update from 13.04 -> 13.10 and in the updates menu there is no upgrade button, i have checked and the settings are ok for getting new upgrades and non-lts.10:44
merandusok,  editted dhcclient.conf. should i run any commands now?10:44
llutzmerandus: sudo dhclient ethX10:45
ezra-sllutz, there should be one working already, shouldn't he kill that one first? or restart networking/network manager instead?10:46
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khaotixhi i am trying to update from 13.04 -> 13.10 and in the updates menu there is no upgrade button, i have checked and the settings are ok for getting new upgrades and non-lts.10:47
merandussudo: unable to resolve <myhostname>10:47
llutzmerandus: grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf10:47
merandusllutz: nothing found10:48
merandusby hat i mean  i got the prompt again, so nothing probably is there10:48
hitsujiTMOmerandus: normally ubuntu adds an entry in /etc/hosts    wuth 127.0.1.1 <your hostname>                       have you changed your hostname since installing?10:50
hitsujiTMOwith*10:50
merandushitsujiTMO: the vps provider installed the OS today, i didn't change anything.10:51
hitsujiTMOmerandus: you should add that entry yourself to remove that error.10:52
queretaroHi there. I have a machine running Precise Pangolin, and when I issue "uname -r" it appears I'm using the 3.2.0-23 kernel. However, when I do "dpkg -l linux-*" it appears I have a newer kernel that I'm not running. Why is this happening? Shouldn't it be using the latest version available?10:52
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kostkonqueretaro, explanation is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack10:53
merandushitsujiTMO: which error? the sudo dhclient eth0 one?10:53
hitsujiTMOqueretaro: when you boot, are you booting with grub from another install?10:53
hitsujiTMOmerandus: this one: <merandus> sudo: unable to resolve <myhostname>10:54
queretarokostkon: thanks!10:54
queretarohitsujiTMO: I'm using default GRUB installation10:54
varunendraqueretaro, not the latest, until you manually choose to, but even by default you certainly should have a higher kernel installed and in use10:55
Beldarqueretaro, No other linux OS's right?10:56
queretarovarunendra: I must say that I'm using a Vagrant box that might be somewhat old. However, I ran apt-get update & apt-get upgrade to see if aptitude upgraded the kernel10:56
varunendraqueretaro, does dpkg list that entry with "ii" prefix (first column)?10:57
varunendraand which version is that10:57
caring_ish_hello, I have a malicious package on my system I need to purge. What is the command for purging from the terminal?10:57
merandushitsujiTMO: i have 127.0.0.1 localhost at the top of the hosts file10:57
varunendracaring_ish_, "sudo apt-get purge <package name>"10:57
caring_ish_gracias varunendra10:58
queretarovarunendra: linux-firmware linux-headers-3.2.0-30 linux-headers-3.2.0-30-generic linux-headers-server linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic linux-image-server linux-libc-dev linux-server10:58
ezra-scaring_ish_, what's the name of the malicious package If I may ask10:58
merandushitsujiTMO: should i replace it with 127.0.1.1 vpsgroups-216  ?10:58
caring_ish_ezra-s, the malicious package is named "Maas"10:58
hitsujiTMOmerandus: add: 127.0.1.1 yourhostname                                              or if you have a static ip you could add: static.i.p.address yourhostname10:58
hitsujiTMOmerandus: dont replace, add it10:59
kostkon!find maas10:59
ubottuFound: maas, maas-cli, maas-cluster-controller, maas-common, maas-dhcp, maas-dns, maas-enlist, maas-region-controller, python-django-maas, python-maas-client (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=maas&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all10:59
kostkon!info maas10:59
ubottumaas (source: maas): Ubuntu MAAS Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4+bzr1693+dfsg-0ubuntu2.2 (saucy), package size 1 kB, installed size 37 kB10:59
merandushitsujiTMO: i have a static ip, so i will enter that one.10:59
carlitos69LIST *programming*10:59
ezra-sdoes not sound like malicious :P10:59
varunendraqueretaro, I believe you should have at least 3.2.0-47 or 50something..10:59
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caring_ish_ezra-s, it's suggesting everything is dependent on it & it's an optional package which is not able to be uninstalled11:00
llutzmerandus: static ip, thus you have to change resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head   to change your dns. thats why no nameserver entry is found11:00
varunendraqueretaro, please show us the output (pastebin link) of : "apt-cache show linux-image-3* | grep Version" ... after an update (sudo apt-get update)11:01
ezra-scaring_ish_, ok, I was just wondering, thanks11:01
merandusllutz: ok i edited the head now gonna add the static ip to the hosts file and do sudio resolvconf -u11:01
caring_ish_ezra-s, it's also suggesting itself an "Unauthorized Package" in the Update Manager11:01
queretarovarunendra: here you go - http://hastebin.com/necojunida.avrasm11:02
llutzmerandus: yes, check "grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf" after that again11:02
queretarovarunendra: so yes, apt knows about newer kernels11:02
queretarohm11:02
hitsujiTMOqueretaro: can you pastebin the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg11:03
queretarohitsujiTMO: sure - http://hastebin.com/goxajukuqi.coffee11:04
queretarohitsujiTMO: now I see it, it's the only entry11:04
queretaroso I should probably run "grub-update" or something like that (if it exists)11:05
hitsujiTMOqueretaro: that should still get updated when a new kernel is installed11:05
merandusoh wow.  it worked, can get packages from ubuntu now11:05
merandusyou guys are awesome;thanks11:05
varunendrahehe, someone experienced the open source support for the first time it seems :P11:06
queretarohitsujiTMO: that'd be the expected behaviour11:07
thokernanyone experienced with lightdm and mythbuntu [12.04 LTS] >> only ubuntu splashscreen, no greeter of lightdm, can be started over SSH with initctl start lightdm????11:07
merandusvarunendra: ye it's p good11:08
Gallomimiaquick question: HFS+ mounted on ubuntu is r/o only? no way to write to the disk?11:08
ezra-sGallomimia, that depends on kernel driver support afaik11:09
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: you need to disable the journal in os x on it before you can mount it as rw11:09
Gallomimiaew. doesn't that mean a format?11:09
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: no, afaik, but its not someyhing i'd do11:10
varunendraqueretaro, what do we have for "apt-cache show linux-image-generic | grep Version" ?11:10
meranduswell, in my /root i have some .tar.gz files that i have no idea what they are, could be something that vps provider support put them there, besides google is there a command to find out what they are?11:10
hitsujiTMOqueretaro: does running: sudo update-grub                  update grub to the latest kernel?11:10
llutzGallomimia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus11:11
queretarovarunendra: only 23-0 and 30-0. however, I just purged the 30-0 kernel and apt automatically installed the latest one (58-generic)11:11
varunendraqueretaro, as a side note, is there a particular reason why you are using root ??11:11
hitsujiTMOmerandus: untar them and see if they have a readme11:11
caring_ish_ok, now I am trying to update to 13.04, though the update manager is attempting to set the upgrade to 13.1011:11
varunendraqueretaro, congrats for that :)11:11
Gallomimiaah. that should help llutz. thanks hitsujiTMO11:12
queretarovarunendra: I use root because I don't like sudoing all the time. Also, I got used to it when I used Slackware, and I also believe it's a good practice (with the right knowledge & responsability)11:12
varunendraqueretaro, well.. your machine, your choice. But I hope you know the risks.11:13
Beldar!root | queretaro11:14
ubottuqueretaro: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:14
queretarovarunendra: same as using sudo for everything11:14
Beldarqueretaro, Not in ubuntu.11:14
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Gallomimiaqueretaro: if you really want to avoid sudo all the time, use a root prompt. sudo -i or similar tools11:15
queretaroI usually sudo su, but yes. What I like about sudo is that it logs what it's been done11:16
Gallomimiaadding a root password opens risks. no root password, no root login. unless it's actually a server and you want to ssh in as root. more risks...11:16
Gallomimiayou could try sudo -i to get the root prompt, and start with script myfile.txt11:17
Gallomimiathen you really get a record of everything that's been done11:17
kay______i sudo bash11:17
Gallomimiai'm assuming sudo script would give similar results11:18
jules12345Kann mir vielleicht jemand helfen mit ubuntu 13.10 und den mit einem humax hd nano aufgenommenen daten11:19
Beldarcaring_ish_, What release are you on now?11:20
llutz!de | jules1234511:20
ubottujules12345: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!11:20
Gallomimiathanks again for the HFS+ tip guys. now i can chown the whole volume, and copy files locally over USB3, instead of sending it over gbE and then USB211:20
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: any such change affects osx too11:21
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: the chowning that is11:22
WobboAny idea why Wine, Wine config even, stuck at 13.10? With all my other Ubuntu, I have no other (also 13.10), do not have this problem.11:22
Gallomimiayeah. stupid uid mismatch :(11:23
Gallomimiait's easier to format the drive and install unbuntu than worry about that crap.11:23
Gallomimiai can chown it back later, but the gid should make it okay11:23
Gallomimiai think the volume is still r/o11:23
caring_ish_Beldar, I'm using 12.10 now11:24
Gallomimiaguess i have no idea what i'm doing when it comes to mounting this disk11:25
wellyHi all - I've got an ubuntu server installation set up and i cannot for the life of me ssh in to the server with any new users I create11:27
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: so you've disabled the journal in osx right?11:27
Gallomimiayeah that went off without a hitch11:27
wellyI keep getting permission denied (publickey) - when I do ssh -v user@host the only error I can see is "roaming not allowed by server"11:27
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: whats the command you're using to mount it in ubuntu?11:27
Gallomimiaand the chown went with no error11:28
Gallomimiano command. just plug it in11:28
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: can you pastebin output of: mount11:28
Gallomimiai've been playing with mount options under disks... i set it back to auto.... now i output it11:29
sandraheyplease help, i have a ubuntu 12.04 laptop that all of a sudden boot into a termal, the desktop does not show11:30
Gallomimiaheh. how about just the line pertaining to that disk? it's a mile long...11:30
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: that'll do11:30
Gallomimianot the only hfs+ drive i have mounted :/11:30
Gallomimia  /dev/sdf1 on /media/gallomimia/tyche type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)11:31
Gallomimiasays rw.11:31
hitsujiTMOGallomimia: it is mounted as rw, so must be a permission issue11:31
Gallomimiachmod seems to have worked11:31
Gallomimiaer, chown11:32
Beldarcaring_ish_, Can you run this and post it cat /etc/issue11:32
caring_ish_Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l11:33
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: you still have net access on that machine?11:33
smookihi11:33
Beldarcaring_ish_, Are you sure you reloaded your sources with 12.10?11:33
smookiI'd like to install jetBrains IDE, it's an archive with bin/ lib/ etc, where should I extract it ? /usr/local/ ?11:34
GallomimiahitsujiTMO: terminal has no trouble. just the gui11:34
caring_ish_Beldar, I altered the sources.list file. It was loaded with the past repository info11:34
Beldarcaring_ish_, Sorry I have you confused with another user, as far as reloading can you pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list11:35
caring_ish_Beldar, I had to comment "#" the past repository info11:35
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, yes i have , its next to me, i was reading this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2106116 its the same situation i have11:36
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: can you try: sudo apt-get install pastebinit11:36
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sandraheyhitsujiTMO, ok, what will that install?11:37
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: thats a tool that will allow you to easily upload logs so we can see where the problem is11:38
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: once thats installed, please run: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log                        then type the url it generates here11:39
Gallomimianext question: the best way to share specific directories in r/o mode with windows computers on my network is _______11:40
mindbender1gnome-panel is interfering with unity on my system. If I uninstall gnome-panle my system enteres a login loop. What can I do?11:40
mindbender1I have been on this issue for hours. Help needed.11:42
Gallomimiamindbender1: i'm sorry i can't help you, but i'm going to suggest two things, uninstall or reconfigure unity. and research where the system looks for "how to login" and fix what must be broken there.11:43
Gallomimiaalternately you could try CTRL-F# where numbers are different screens, which should have different logins11:44
GallomimiaF7 is the default login screen i think11:44
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, ok, thanks, first i have to get my networking to run on my "broken" laptop11:44
Gallomimiactrl+alt+F#11:45
caring_ish_http://pastebin.com/v3JP5dbc11:45
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, if i plugin a network cable while its booted in the terminal , will the network auto connect?11:45
Gallomimiashould, if you have dhcp server on your network. routers do this11:46
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: it should11:46
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, ok thanks , according to the article it looks like its got something to do with the NVIDIA driver11:47
mindbender1Gallomimia: thanks for the suggestions.11:48
Beldarcaring_ish_, Looks basically okay I would remove all the other releases commented out, not sure why your upgrade would be going to 13.10 rather than 13.04.11:48
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: yes, that would be my first guess too. the Xorg.0.log should give us more info on what exactly is going wrong11:49
ohmyBonjour11:49
ohmyhi11:49
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sandraheyhitsujiTMO, ok, pastebinit is installed11:50
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: please run: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log                        then type the url it generates here11:50
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, ok11:50
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708657/11:52
ijulianhello. sorry for my bad enlish. do you know how can I enable trim in ubuntu during the installation?11:52
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root__greece server?11:53
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Beldarijulian, You would do it after install,11:53
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ijulianBeldar ok thanks, I will do that. do you know how can I check if trim is enabled?11:55
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: please run: dmesg | pastebinit                       and again: please type the url it generates here11:55
hitsujiTMOijulian: trim is not enabled by default(except 14.04)11:55
ijulianyes, I know that. but I would like to know how can I check it after I enabled it, to see if I done well or not11:56
ijulian*after I enable it11:56
hitsujiTMOijulian: mount | grep discard                               if you enabled discard11:58
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, do you think i can remove the nvidia current drivers and install them again? like suggested in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210611611:59
thokernALL: help on lightdm needed >>no login screen! anyone experienced??11:59
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ijulianhitsujiTMO thanks, that work if I enable it on fstab, cron or both?12:00
hitsujiTMOijulian: thats only if its enabled in fstab.           cron (my preffered method) instead runs the command: fstrim /12:02
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: thats prob the simplest course of action, but i'd prefer to see exactly what the problem is before taking any actions12:03
ijulianhitsujiTMO thanks you very much for helping me, you solved my problem12:03
Gallomimiagreat. samba failed to be configured properly on install. dpkg reported error of max errors reported reached. off to a good start.12:03
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, ok, i have pasted the link for you12:04
cha0z1i have a problem during my upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 the upgrade never done correctly and now i have the reposistories of saucy. Is there any way to revert it and make the upgrade again?12:04
Walexkhaotix: cha0z1 revert is not quite right... Just use 'aptitude' and let it fix your problems.12:05
cha0z1Walex the aptitute suggest me partial upgrade! i think that is not correct. All started when my upgrade manager didnt show the upgrade to 13.10 so I typed : do-release-upgrade12:06
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, any suggestions to proceed further?12:11
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sandraheyhitsujiTMO, you still there?12:20
mindbender1Gallomimia: There is a small icon next to the user's name at the login prompt that I had to click to select a proper desktop environment. Thanks again. I'm exhausted already for such an unannounced design. I reserve my bitter comments.12:23
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MasterOfDisastersandrahey: verify that the nvidia kernel is loaded (sudo lsmod). if not, load it with 'sudo modprobe nvidia' and share dmesg's output.12:25
* ezra-s chuckles12:25
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok12:26
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: perhaps it wasn't compiled for the kernel now running, you can force this with the dkms command. verify what you are running the latest kernel installed on your system12:27
itayhi, has anyoen tryed setting up a vpn usign strongswan?12:27
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: ls /lib/modules vs. uname -a12:27
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Gallomimiamindbender1: so you fixed it? that's pretty cool. i really know very little about it.12:28
Gallomimiacan anyone suggest to me some way of working around this bug/error:  samba : Depends: samba-common (= 2:3.6.18-1ubuntu3) but 2:3.6.18-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed12:29
Gallomimia         Depends: libwbclient0 (= 2:3.6.18-1ubuntu3) but 2:3.6.18-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed12:29
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, looks like i am ruuning kernel 3.2.0-57-generic12:29
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, dont know if its the latest :-)12:30
helmut_hi12:30
Gallomimiasandrahey: pretty sure 3.11 is latest in the ubuntu release12:30
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, its ubuntu 12.04, i have12:31
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: 'ls /lib/modules' should tell you if there's a newer version installed on your system. The scripts dpkg calls on kernel upgrades *might* remove a dkms kernel module from an older version, but this happened only once to me.12:32
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: so is the kernel module loaded or not?12:32
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: lsmod | grep -i nvidia12:32
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ruuning the lsmod command i get nvidia 11308613 0 , the nvidia is in red characters12:33
MasterOfDisasteryeah it's loaded alright then.12:35
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: launching X still yields the error you posted?12:35
Gallomimiadoes apt-get remove delete files rather than simply deselect? is there another command for that?12:36
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: share 'dmesg' output too, if the problem persists.12:36
MasterOfDisasterGallomimia: IIRC apt-get purge12:36
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ubuntu update manager, whants to install linux kernel 3.8.0 ,  on the current laptop i am using to talk to you12:36
Gallomimianope. that one is REALLY delete12:37
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, when running startx i still get the error i posted yes.12:37
jordan_can someson tell me how to remove linux mint (not duel boot) and install windows12:37
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, in the terminal output its states that there is a API mismatch, but it does not state it in the Xorg.0.log pasted12:38
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: well, try applying all available updates first and reboot.12:39
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: i.e.: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo reboot12:40
Gallomimiawow. what the HELL is wrong with apt-get today. i just want to uninstall the samba packages i added with install samba4, and try installing samba(no4). and the bloody thing wants to remove mplayer for me. I USE THAT PROGRAM12:40
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok, i already did a sudo apt-get upgrade , haven’t reboot yet12:40
Gallomimiasee you soon then12:41
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, rebooting ....12:42
jordan_can someone tell me how to uninstall linux mnt (not duel boot) and install xubuntu12:42
MasterOfDisasterwas the last thing she/he posted :D12:42
llutzjordan_: just boot the xubuntu installation disk and install it. let it overwrite the old filesystems12:43
MasterOfDisasterjordan_: when in the partitioning step of the installation, just remove the old linux partitions and recreate them.12:43
jordan_it wont let me boot from my usb and i have the xubuntu files on that i think linux mint has screwed up12:44
MasterOfDisasterjordan_: if you stored anything in your /home, you should back it up beforehand.12:44
MasterOfDisasterjordan_: linux is not responsible for any BIOS settings, including boot order.12:45
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, sorry i did not see the line you posted, after the update, i have 163mb to upgrade, will do it now.12:45
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: nevermind12:45
jordan_i know but whenever i try to boot my usb the screen just stays black when i click install12:45
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, is the latest kernel for ubuntu 12.04 then 3.8.0?12:46
MasterOfDisasterjordan_: recreate your usb boot medium or verify it against checksums to be safe.12:46
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: checking...12:46
jordan_it does the same thing with any windows or ubuntu disks too if that helps12:47
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, and i think that long ago i got the nvidia driver from their website, and install it that way, not through the repos, nvidia and linux was not that close then12:47
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: to be safe stick with the driver from the repos. it is patched to be compatible with the kernel and X version.12:48
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: don't give in to versionitis, if everything runs smoothly :D12:48
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: 3.8.x sounds right12:49
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: you can check package versions online: packages.ubuntu.com12:49
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok. After the upgrade, how can i check if the driver is from the repos, or not?12:49
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: sommy,m i'm back. had an emergency to run to12:50
hitsujiTMOsorry*12:50
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok, thanks i will check the kernel versions there, in future12:50
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: apt-cache policy nvidia-current-updates <-- should list the one from 12.04 repos there as preferred12:51
sandraheyhitsujiTMO, no prop. MasterOfDisaster was of great help so far, but i still have no desktop, i am busy to get all the updates for now, still got 24 min to go12:51
tkern_ALL: LTS 12.04 and displaymanager lightdn >> no login screen,12:53
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: verify that this is the only driver package installed: dpkg --get-selections | /bin/grep nvidia12:54
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: not all in this list are driver packages, but their names should be recognizeable.12:54
MasterOfDisastertkern_: provide some information - logs? dmesg? something?12:55
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok, it is still busy downloading , is there a way to open another terminal?12:55
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: gnome-terminal?12:55
hitsujiTMOtkern_: pastebin /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log      you will need sudo to access that file12:55
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: ah, my bad12:55
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, i am stiil in this boot terminal12:56
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: ctrl-alt-f1 to f712:56
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: ctrl + alt + f2 should open another terminal.12:56
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: ctrl-alt-f1 should get you back to the one you had open first.12:57
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sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok i have another terminal open12:57
jayHHi, I'm having problems installing Pygame on 12.0412:57
hitsujiTMO!details | jayH12:57
ubottujayH: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:57
tkern_MasterOfDisaster: not shure which logs could help: system.log? >> the trouble is since nvidia disaster there is only the UBUNTU splash screen but no login greeter,12:57
MasterOfDisastertkern_: xorg log for starters, /var/log/syslog next.12:58
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, how to a pastebin the terminal output?12:59
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: apt-get install pastebinit ; command | pastebinit12:59
jayHHey, sure. I have 12.04, have 2.7.3 as default, and Pygame from the repos (1.9.1) - when I run a python script, I don't get an error, a window appears, but nothing inside - always blank, whatever the code12:59
hitsujiTMOsandrahey: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit12:59
tkern_MasterOfDisaster_: there are some.is xorg.0.log the current?13:00
hitsujiTMOtkern_: yes13:00
MasterOfDisastertkern_: correct13:00
jayHAnyone got any ideas?13:00
hitsujiTMOjayH: any particular python script? or is it every one?13:01
jayHEvery one with Pygame import13:01
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok, thanks13:01
Gallomimiasandrahey: when someone says type a command that ends in | pastebinit they usually want the url the command spits out :) not a thank you13:02
jayHI had exactly the same issue with Ubuntu 13.04 last week before doing complete reinstall to 12.0413:02
hitsujiTMOjayH: i would try #python first incase its something particular to python that is required rather than a botched installtion13:02
jayHMaybe I'll give them a look ;)13:03
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, apt-cache policy nvidia-current-updates , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708911/13:03
MasterOfDisasterjayH: to be sure APT wasn't interrupted or forgot something, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ; sudo apt-get install -f' first13:03
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: looks good. and the dpkg command?13:04
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, dpkg --get-selections , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708918/13:04
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, when running startx i does not whant to send output to pastebin, only to the terminal13:05
trubahello13:06
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: run it like this: startx 2>&1 | pastebinit13:06
MasterOfDisastertruba: hi13:06
MasterOfDisastertruba: state the nature of your ubuntu emergency :D13:06
trubaguys I was an ubuntu user before, so my knowledge is limited. I am setting up a lab to practice gns3 labs so am back to ubuntu now and trying an lxde + ubuntu combo to gain on ram as i have to run quite a bit of routers13:07
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, startx output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708933/13:07
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: ok, hang on...13:08
trubabut I am experiencing that my cpu fan is running quite fast even when I am using just lxde and xchat13:09
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, there you can see it says API mismatch. NVIDIA kernel module has version 304.88 but this NVIDIA driver component has version 304.10813:09
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: remove the kernel module first with 'modprobe -r nivida'13:09
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, wiil do13:09
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: yeah, let me look up the commands to fix it :D13:09
trubathe cpu utilization is low though13:09
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, it is still busy with a upgrade, maybe i should whait until that is finished?13:10
trubabut the hot air coming out form the cpu are is really irritating13:10
kkkkkkkkkkkhi all13:10
kkkkkkkkkkki am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit kernel 3.8.0.2913:10
kkkkkkkkkkkshould i upgrade kernel13:11
kkkkkkkkkkkand how do i upgrade13:11
kkkkkkkkkkkmy system freezes every hour13:11
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: first: apt-get purge nvida-304 nvidia-current nvidia-settings-30413:11
kkkkkkkkkkknothing works except alt+sysrq+ RESIUB13:11
kkkkkkkkkkkguys , please tell me recommended way to upgrade kernel13:12
Meerkataptitude update && aptitude upgrade I guess, kkkkkkkkkkk13:12
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, just waiting for upgrade to finish, +- 3 min to go13:12
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: force rebuild of the newer nvidia module: sudo dkms build -m nvidia-304-updates -v 304.108 -k `uname -r` --force13:14
tkern_sandrahey_: since updating to nvidia-304 i have trouble as well. in my case lightdm displaymanager is affected....13:14
Overlordzkkkkkkkkkkk, what makes you think upgrading your kernel will help?  seems like a shot in the dark13:14
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: anything abnormal in your syslog?13:15
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: did you try securing a crashdump?13:15
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html13:16
MasterOfDisasterperhaps a MCE was the reason for the crash, use mcelog to investigate13:16
ice9why Canonical will support the coming release of Ubuntu for 5 years?13:17
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: overheating may trigger an MCE13:17
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: SORRY, for late reply13:18
kkkkkkkkkkkbut my system freezes, overheating is not an issue13:18
kkkkkkkkkkkit happens everytime, near about 45 minutes after13:18
kkkkkkkkkkklogging in, i usually run chrome13:18
kkkkkkkkkkkafter startup13:18
sayahCan someone tell me how ubuntu runs if it isn´t using a swap page?13:19
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: check your logs. use crashkernel. No investigation possible without data13:19
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: how to check log13:19
MasterOfDisastersayah: it's using RAM...13:19
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: i mean, there are many files in /var/log13:19
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: ls, cat, less. your logs are in /var/log.13:19
llutzsayah: if it runs out of memory it will kill processes13:19
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MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: start with syslog, especially the older ones.13:20
ezra-skkkkkkkkkkk, do "lspci | grep -i wireless"13:20
sayahThanks guys and girls.13:20
ezra-sjust a bet...13:20
kkkkkkkkkkkezra-s: 2:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)13:21
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: freezing is difficult to debug without access to the hardware. It might be faulty disk, faulty RAM, bad usb device, etc.13:21
sandraheymaster_of_master, ok, removing the nvidia drivers13:22
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: utilize your logs and crashkernel to gather data.13:22
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: got it :D13:22
ma4c70sayah: just type  free  from terminal13:22
ezra-skkkkkkkkkkk, not the same I used to have problems with. I once had freezes under ubuntu too, a spepcific model of an atheros wifi model, had to even patch the kernel, I was guessing, sorry I don't know of issues with that one13:22
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: NO, in ubuntu 32 bit, it never happened, on 32 bit i am using kernel 3.2.0.5213:22
Allison43hello13:23
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: dual boot setup or what?13:23
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: further, it never happened to me on windows also, it means, hardware is fine13:23
kkkkkkkkkkktriple boot13:23
kkkkkkkkkkk2 linux + win713:23
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: no, it means parts of the hardware are fine13:23
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: could still be a dying disk13:23
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: but why the same is not happening on win7 or13:23
kkkkkkkkkkkubuntu 32 bit13:23
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: perhaps it will. soon. disk errors are sneaky, but deadly.13:24
kkkkkkkkkkkso, should i change my disk13:24
MasterOfDisasterverify with a livecd and badblocks run on the *whole* disk13:24
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: it has 2 bad sectors, otherwise it is showing healthy status13:24
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: disk utility is showing13:25
sandraheymaster_of_master, sorry, is it single quotes around the uname -r in the rebuild  command?13:25
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: duh. so you know it has bad sectors?13:25
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: backticks13:25
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: `13:25
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: yes, but 2 bad sectors are with it, since i have purchased laptop13:25
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: you can replace it with $(uname -r)13:25
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok, thanks just whant to make sure13:25
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: do yourself a favour and replace the disk.13:26
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: But now it is out of warranty and it will cost a lot to me,13:26
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: yeah so? that's life in IT, deal with it. Sorry, but it is like that.13:27
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: okay, thanks for help, i will think of to purchase a external one, and whether one can partition a external hdd13:27
kkkkkkkkkkkor boot from it13:27
kkkkkkkkkkkit will help me to decide, whether to purchase a external or internal one.13:27
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: dude, seriously. You're inviting more headaches, but well, they are your headaches to have and forunately not mine :D13:28
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, its says its already build for it ?13:28
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: did you add --force?13:28
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, yes . http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709001/13:29
kkkkkkkkkkkMasterOfDisaster: guide me, i am confused, which one to purchase, i am not an expert13:29
kkkkkkkkkkkBy the way you are the master of Disater13:29
kkkkkkkkkkk:D13:30
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sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, should i reboot?13:30
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: buy an internal disk13:30
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: yes please13:30
ezra-syou guys made sure it is a disk problem? :P13:31
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok13:31
kkkkkkkkkkkthanks, which brand Sandisk, Seagate ??13:32
MasterOfDisasterezra-s: :))13:32
MasterOfDisasterkkkkkkkkkkk: in your case, the cheapest?13:32
ezra-skkkkkkkkkkk, if you want a good internal reliable hdd, go for western digital, green if you don't need super fast performance, black for gaming and such, red for servers13:32
ezra-s:)13:33
kibibytehi13:33
thanahi13:33
kkkkkkkkkkkthanks a lot, western digital, i will look for it, at online sales site13:33
kkkkkkkkkkkflipkart in india13:33
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, you are the man !!!!!!13:33
kkkkkkkkkkkBTW thanks a lot13:33
thanaif the upstart-script for $service is missing, shouldnt programs like status fall back to the sysvinit-script?13:33
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, thanks i have my screen back!13:33
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: you're welcome13:33
kibibyteim trying to search for some text in files but when i type: grep "database" /home/luk/*.txt im getting  "home/luk/*.txt  : No such file or directory". How to use wildcards then ?13:34
kibibyteim trying to search for some text in files but when i type: grep "database" /home/luk/*.txt im getting  "/home/luk/*.txt  : No such file or directory". How to use wildcards then ?13:34
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, the kernel version does bother me a bit, i am on 3.2 and the other laptop is wants to download 3.813:35
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kibibyteanyone help?13:35
thanakibibyte: what do you expect should happen if there are no files matching your wildcard expression?13:36
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: verify that your sources.list is the same, is *-updates enabled?13:36
ezra-s3.8? that's not on kernel.org marked as stable or longterm13:36
kibibytethana but i have .txt files13:36
MasterOfDisasterkibibyte: do you want to search that dir recursively?13:36
kibibyteMasterOfDisaster, yes13:36
thanakibibyte: not in this folder13:36
MasterOfDisasterkibibyte: find /home/luk -iname *.txt -exec grep -Hin database {} \;13:37
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, ok, sorry how do i check that?13:37
thanaMasterOfDisaster: grep /home/luk/**/*txt rather13:37
MasterOfDisasterthana: does bash support that?13:37
thanaMasterOfDisaster: sure13:38
MasterOfDisasterthana: he need to have extglob right?13:38
thanai dont know13:38
MasterOfDisasterthana: meh, I can never remember which version does, and I deal with ancient software now and then.13:38
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MasterOfDisasterkibibyte: so 'grep database /home/luk/**/*txt' should work as well, as thana suggested.13:39
thananow if just anyone would know an answer to my question ;)13:40
kibibytebut only with 1 subfolder?13:40
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: by comparing /etc/apt/sources.list13:40
kibibytethana, i want searh in all subfolders13:40
MasterOfDisastersandrahey: by comparing /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*13:40
vilcansHey, anyone knows how to disable sudo password prompts when using the -u flag?13:41
MasterOfDisasterthana: concerning your question: what do you mean by 'fall back'? In which scenario?13:41
vilcans"%sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" doesn't do it.13:41
thanaMasterOfDisaster: i heard upstart would fall back to sysvinit if it doesnt have an upstartscript for $service13:41
MasterOfDisastervilcans: you shouldn't. It's an information disclosure issue.13:42
vilcansMasterOfDisaster: It makes scripting impossible.13:42
debore2hello, sorry for my bad english. I tried to use trim with cron, but it seems not active. can you help me?13:42
MasterOfDisastervilcans: what are you trying to do?13:43
vilcansMasterOfDisaster: Install and run things with Ansible.13:43
MasterOfDisasterthana: /etc/init.d/ links are added to upstart scripts, but this is it AFAIK13:43
vilcansAnsible runs commands through ssh for me.13:44
thanaMasterOfDisaster: any suggestion what to do if i have such a service without upstart script?13:44
jnhghyis there a sap2000 alternative for ubuntu? I found that estru3D should work but didn't find the linux version so I thought asking here for any good software...13:44
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vilcansWorks fine with plain "sudo" but if I want to run the command as another user with "sudo -u" it hangs on the password prompt.13:44
MasterOfDisasterthana: just use the debian sysv tools (update-rc.d). look in the headers of a sample script (skeleton) for the appropriate headers13:45
thanaMasterOfDisaster: mayeb i should be more clear: i have a puppet-script trying to get the status of service php5-fpm yusing /sbin/status php5-fpm -- just there is no (upstart)service :/13:46
MasterOfDisastervilcans: %sudo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL13:46
debore2 I tried to use trim with cron, but it seems not active. can you help me? sorry for my bad english.13:46
MasterOfDisasterthana: puh, consult the puppet docs for an override. you might have to define a custom service class.13:47
MasterOfDisasterdebore2: trim? ssd?13:47
MasterOfDisasterdebore2: why not use the filesystem mount option?13:48
vilcansMasterOfDisaster: Awesome! Thanks!13:48
debore2MasterOfDisaster yes. I read that cron is better13:48
thanaMasterOfDisaster: damnit. thanks13:49
MasterOfDisasterthana: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/puppet/+bug/55154413:49
ubottuUbuntu bug 551544 in puppet (Ubuntu Lucid) "puppet in lucid does not support upstart status " [High,Fix released]13:49
MasterOfDisasterthana: seems related13:49
prabhathiiii13:49
MasterOfDisasterthana: perhaps you can figure out a solution from there.13:49
thanaMasterOfDisaster: yes i manually set the provider to init. i acturally hoped i could avoid this13:49
MasterOfDisastervilcans: explanation here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28309/sudo-no-password-breaks-other-sudo-u-uses13:49
MasterOfDisastervilcans: strong, my google-fu is :D13:49
debore2MasterOfDisaster : do you know how can I check if trim is active? I think i have done bad and is not activated. sorry for my bad english13:52
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KeyboardNotFound /dev/ttyUSB* is stream or file ?13:54
hitsujiTMOdebore2: how did you enable trim exactly?13:56
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thanaMasterOfDisaster: thanks13:56
MasterOfDisasterdebore2: you're using ext3/4?13:56
debore2hitsujiTMO : /etc/cron.daily/trim http://pastebin.com/XhaAgNJ113:57
debore2ext413:57
MasterOfDisasterdebore2: sudo mount / -o remount,trim13:57
sandraheyMasterofDisaster, when grep update in the sources.list then i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709135/13:58
hitsujiTMOMasterOfDisaster: you're thinking of discard13:58
MasterOfDisasterdebore2: sorry, sudo mount / -o remount,ssd,discard13:58
hitsujiTMOdebore2: you may need full path for fstrim:   /sbin/fstrim13:59
MasterOfDisasterhitsujiTMO: yup. read first, post second13:59
sandraheyMasterOfDisaster, when grep -ir update /etc/apt.sources.list.d/* , then i get nothing13:59
debore2hitsujiTMO : $ sudo fstrim -v / /: 570634240 bytes were trimmed . is it right?14:00
hitsujiTMOdebore2: yes if you have 550 mbs to trim since last run14:01
debore2hitsujiTMO: I have tried this : https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/checkiftrimonext4isenabledandworking14:03
debore2it says that I have not active trim14:03
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hitsujiTMOdebore2: that assumes you are using discard. which isn't always the best way to use trim14:05
hitsujiTMOdebore2: i prefer the passive cron approach14:06
debore2hitsujiTMO : then I have trim actived? I dont know any way to check this. thanks for help14:06
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hitsujiTMOdebore2: what does your log say?14:10
hitsujiTMOdebore2: if its trimming then the log should contain entries with the results of the trim operation14:10
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debore2hitsujiTMO : the log don't exist, so is not active14:11
binguys where is ulimit in ubuntu 13.10 server ?14:12
ikoniabin: type ulimit14:12
binwell yeah14:13
binand it's missing14:13
hitsujiTMOdebore2: ls -l /var/log/trim.log14:13
ikoniathe command "ulimit" is missing ?14:13
geirhabin: no, really ''type ulimit''  type is a command14:13
ikoniaI actually meant "type the word ulimit"14:13
bingeirha:  for real ?14:13
ikonianot "type ulimit" as a command14:13
ikoniabin: no, I mean just type "ulimit"14:13
bini know what ikonia meant14:14
binanyways14:14
binthanks14:14
debore2 hitsujiTMO: dont exist, it says : no se puede acceder a /var/log/trim.log: No existe el archivo o el directorio14:15
hitsujiTMOdebore2: how long ago did you create the cron?14:15
debore2hitsujiTMO : 30 mins ago and I reboted14:16
hitsujiTMOdebore2: that won't necessarily get called on every boot. it a daily cron, so may just bot have been called yet.14:16
hitsujiTMOs/bot/not14:17
debore2hitsujiTMO : is not neccesary to active when ubuntu boot?14:17
hitsujiTMOdebore2: no14:17
debore2hitsujiTMO ok, thanks.14:19
hitsujiTMOdebore2: have made the script executable btw?14:19
debore2hitsujiTMO yes I did14:20
hitsujiTMOdebore2: can you paste the output of: ls -l /etc/cron.daily/trim14:21
debore2hitsujiTMO : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 86 ene  7 14:19 /etc/cron.daily/trim14:21
rajrajrajwell, is there any distro which acts like windows in terms of installing software, what i mean is: like in windows you install a software which is usually an exe file and is transferable from one system to another, but in ubuntu as i have seen, I had to install packages which had dependency on another, every time internet was required, isnt there any distro which has packages in a bundle like rar file. which wont require internet co14:22
ikoniarajrajraj: no14:22
rajrajrajikonia: wow you mean, i will have to deal with dependencies every time14:23
gordonjcprajrajraj: pretty much all modern distros package software like that14:23
ikoniarajrajraj: yes14:23
hitsujiTMOdebore2: last thing to check is if anacron is installed: dpkg --get-selections | grep anacron14:23
gordonjcprajrajraj: an application comes as a single package, which can contain the instructions for reverything else it needs14:23
rajrajrajikonia: no linux distro comes with inbuild dependencies?14:23
debore2hitsujiTMO : yes, anacroninstall14:24
gordonjcprajrajraj: this prevents the problem that Windows has14:24
rajrajrajgordonjcp: what problem?14:24
KI7MT_widos has the same problem, DLL nightmares14:24
KI7MT_*Windows14:24
gordonjcprajrajraj: windows programs have to package everything they think they need14:24
ikoniarajrajraj: I'll say it again 2no"14:24
debore2hitsujiTMO: I don't delete a lot of files, maybe is better for me fstab method14:24
ikonia"no"14:24
hitsujiTMOdebore2: anacron bein installed disables the daily task, so it won't run14:25
rajrajrajgordonjcp: that is good for those with no intenet, isnt it. or does linux has an alternate distro for it14:26
ikoniarajrajraj: this channel is for ubuntu - you're asking your generic questions in ##linux14:26
debore2hitsujiTMO: I need to remove anacron?14:26
ikoniarajrajraj: you've been advised to download the DVD - or download packages directly from the internet14:26
ikoniarajrajraj: those are you only options with ubuntu14:26
gordonjcprajrajraj: no, that's bad14:26
ikoniarajrajraj: if you don't want to use #ubuntu - the channel ##linux is where you should be asking14:26
Cigritsrajrajraj could burn a ubuntu disc to solve his problem, no?14:26
gordonjcprajrajraj: so the installers are huge and if two installers package same library, boom14:27
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hitsujiTMOdebore2: no, something might be using it. instead use the root crontab to call fstrim: sudo crontab -e14:27
gordonjcprajrajraj: it's why windows is too difficult for normal people to use14:28
rajrajrajCigrits: what?14:28
debore2hitsujiTMO: what I need to write in that text file? thanks for helping me14:29
hitsujiTMOdebore2: * * 1 * * /etc/cron.daily/trim14:31
Jeffry_Hello14:31
Jeffry_Could i get some help with the grub boot loader14:31
Rory!details | Jeffry_14:31
ubottuJeffry_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:31
Jeffry_I need help with efi grub bootloader the grub bootloader wont start unless i start it manualy14:32
debore2hitsujiTMO : ok, I have done that14:33
douglhitsujiTMO, hey - we got it... http://youtu.be/X1aC7ewNeBQ, had to update the 13.04 grub.  You were gone when I finally figered it out and came back to thanks you  all => Thanks :)14:34
Qiamianhi14:34
hitsujiTMOdougl: np. glad you made it14:34
Qiamianwhats up?14:35
b2wis there any way to convert speech to text in terminal?14:35
* dougl knows where his friends hang... appreciates this channel full of good people!14:35
Allison43Jeffry_, do you mean with the shift key14:36
Rory!info festival | b2w14:36
debore2hitsujiTMO : how can I check if it works? sorry for bothering you14:36
ubottub2w: festival (source: festival): General multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1~release-6ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 968 kB, installed size 2588 kB14:36
kibibyteb2w, apt-get guy-from-india14:36
Jeffry_no I'm just launching it from the boot menu after i press ESC than F10 the takes me to the boot menu where i then luancher the on that says ubuntu than it opens grub14:36
Jeffry_sorry about my speeling im kinda tierd14:37
b2wubottu festival is text to speech i am asking about speech to text?14:37
kibibyteb2w, apt-get guy-from-india14:37
kibibytei mean apt-get install14:37
b2wkibibyte can u tell me how to use it please..14:37
hitsujiTMOdebore2 crap i just realised i gave you the wrong entries maybe this would be better: 0 12 * * * /etc/cron.daily/trim14:38
OerHeks!info julius14:39
ubottujulius (source: julius): speech recognition engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.2-0ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 1101 kB, installed size 2412 kB14:39
debore2hitsujiTMO : I changed it like you say14:40
Gallomimiasweet. installing both of those speech tools14:40
geirhaNote that regardless of whether anacron is installed or not, the scripts in /etc/cron.daily/ get run daily. Though not if the machine is on battery power.14:40
hitsujiTMOdebore2: you'll have to give it 24hrs and see if it writes to the log14:41
bilegtI wanted to run a shell script at startup and it's working well when I start it like "sudo /etc/init.d/myscript start", but when I do "sudo service myscript start" it won't work14:41
debore2hitsujiTMO : ok, thanks a lot  for your help14:41
b2wcan i convert speech to text using festival14:41
b2w?14:41
Allison43Jeffry_, use legacy mode and legacy boot first , in the UEFI/Bios, then grub should appear after the POST page.14:41
hitsujiTMOgeirha: man cron states: These tasks are disabled  if  anacron is installed (except for the hourly task) to prevent conflicts between both daemons.14:42
Jeffry_I will try that14:42
b2wcan i convert speech to text using festival?14:42
Roryb2w: Yes, that's what it's for14:42
geirhahitsujiTMO: Yes, because then anacron runs them instead of cron14:42
Roryb2w: Oh no, sorry that's text to speech14:42
hitsujiTMOgeirha: ahh my bad14:42
OerHeksb2w festival is text to speech engine14:42
b2wRory i want something that converts speech to text...14:43
Gallomimiai thought festival does text to speech. and julius does speech to text?14:43
hitsujiTMOdebore2: you can remove the crontab entry: it should work without it14:43
Gallomimiause julius. ignore festival14:43
debore2hitsujiTMO : ok, I will remove it.14:43
shafoxI am having trouble with chrome, while opened for a while or sudden transition of tabs the system halts.14:44
* Gallomimia installs both.14:44
hitsujiTMOdebore2: just give it 24hrs and see if you log gets written to14:44
shafoxi tried with stable chrome, unstable chrome, chromium everything gets hanged.14:44
Roryb2w: What have you tried?14:45
b2wRory trying out now14:45
OerHeksspeech 2 text and a native systemwide equaliser are 2 things i am waiting for,14:47
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shafoxanybody here expert on chrome hangs the system issue ? on 12.04 LTE14:49
* FiLoSsOfIe ce fac puturosiiiiii ?14:49
Allison43hmm, speech to text would be chaotic for those who think out loud14:49
MonkeyDustor curse their computers14:54
OerHeks!find MonkeyDust14:55
ubottuPackage/file MonkeyDust does not exist in saucy14:56
Tobias92I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu Server.We've come through almost every step, but now it hangs on grub-install at 50%. Does anybody have a suggestion?14:58
ikoniaTobias92: where is it trying to install grub /14:59
Tobias92ikonia: on /dev/sda, the MBR14:59
Tobias92I should mention, it's running as a degenerated software RAID114:59
ikoniaTobias92: as in "mdadm" raid or fakeraid ?14:59
Tobias92ikonia: the former14:59
ikoniaTobias92: how have you setup raid degraded if you have no OS on it ?15:00
Cigritstobias92 what size are your drives?15:01
Tobias92ikonia: it's running RAID1 on a single disk, I cannot add the second disk yet15:01
Tobias92Cigrits: one drive, 200GB15:01
Tobias922006 Seagate model, 7200RPM15:01
Cigritstobias92 are you installing from a usb drive?15:01
ernetasHey guys.15:02
ernetasI installed XEN and trying to start Ubuntu...15:02
ernetasWhatsoever, I'm getting a very weird error:15:02
ernetashttps://gist.github.com/ernetas/bde0c8f3c92763259da1/raw/6dc379948adb459a786b5f37e3e7aa763cc59302/gistfile1.txt15:02
ernetasIt's a fresh install using xen-image-create. fsck -f returns no problems. What could be the issue?15:02
Tobias92Cigrits: no, from an IDE cdrom15:02
jeffry__It didnt work15:02
Tobias92The "grub-install" command has been running for more than half an hour now; ps tells me it is making *some* progress as other progresses show up after a long while, but is is *incredibly* slow15:04
Cigritstobias92 if you still have the installer running, press ctrl+alt+f2 to go to the 2nd virtual termal. type tail /var/log/syslog15:04
Cigritsthat might give you some clues15:04
ernetasAny clues, anyone?15:04
jcimsany good alternatives to Canonical Landscape?  i've got a few systems deployed at customer sites with no persistent connectivity inbound.  honestly i'd probably rather use a service than build something (only 3-4 boxes total at the moment), just would like to find something a bit less expensive15:05
Cigritsor cat /var/log/syslog |more15:05
Cigritsto look throught the whole log, its very long15:05
jcimsmain objectives are patches and basic change management.  backups might also be good to centralize15:05
Tobias92Cigrits: oh my; it's reporting all sorts of "unrecovered read error"'s15:06
hwittI have put alot of unnecessary shit on my machine and it's running slow( I have five copies of postgresql installed). I want to wipe the hard drive clean and re-install ibuntu 12.04, bu tI'm at work and I don't have a cd or usb. Any thoughts?15:06
hwittShould I use debootstrap?15:06
spearhead__!language hwitt15:07
hwittsorry15:07
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Tobias92Cigrits: I'm just going to assume this drive is dead as a dodo and try with some other drive15:08
spearhead__hwitt, as far as I know you are going to need some other boot able media such as cd or usb to reformat and install ubuntu... someone else might know more though...15:09
Cigritstobias92 you can use smartctl to check it.15:09
spearhead__hwitt: because you can't reformat the drive you are currently booted from...15:09
Tobias92Cigrits: that's not in the busybox, is it?15:10
ses1984after i login i see my desktop background and icons, but no launcher or top panel15:10
OerHekshwitt, add an ISO to your grub can be your solution >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot15:10
hwittawesome thanks!15:11
spearhead__OerHeks, will that work if the iso is on the drive being formatted?15:11
Cigritstobias92  if you are using a net install disc probably not15:12
Tobias92Aight, I'm just gonna try with other drives. Thanks, Cigrits!15:13
Cigritsnp tobias9215:13
OerHeksspearhead__, no, you need 'toram'  option to unmount any disk to partition/format >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#Installing_Ubuntu_from_a_Menuentry_Boot  but it can be done15:15
trubahello15:18
trubais there any irc channel for ubuntu beginers where I can ask for installation solutions15:18
bazhangtruba, ask here15:19
Rorytruba: Not specifically, but this is the Ubuntu support channel15:19
trubai am trying to install ubuntu with lxde to save RAM as I have to work in GNS3, but I am getting abnormally high cpu fan speed, high temperature15:22
Rorytruba: If you go to system monitor, do you see any applications consuiming a high % of CPU?15:22
trubano15:22
trubathat is what is troubling me cpu utilisation is low but cpu fan is high, and hot air coming out is very irritating15:23
FiremanEdtruba: What is your PC/Laptop? and what are the specs of it?15:24
trubai have a Dell laptop with 4 gb RAM15:24
compdoctruba, if the air is hot, it needs to come out. But I have seen ppl mention the same thing - laptop power saving modes seem broken15:25
OerHeksbetter high fan and noise than no fan, it is safe and probably will be solved when you boot first time.15:25
hitsujiTMOtruba: what gpu?15:26
trubaNvidia and I have installed the drivers, but I am not running unity but LXDE15:26
Rorytruba: You could try installing sensors-detect "sudo apt-get install sensors-detect" and then run it with:15:27
Roryyes | sudo sensors-detect15:27
spearheadOerHeks: thanks, yeah I was reading through the article and found that at the bottom...15:27
trubaI am running sensors15:28
senthilkumartruba: may be you need to clean your cpu fan.. i had the same problem... lots of dust15:28
egor_Привет15:29
egor_Hello15:29
trubabut a day before I was using windows and I had no problem15:29
egor_amm15:30
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egor_What doing to15:31
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hitsujiTMOtruba: what temps are your cpu + gpu hitting?15:32
truba50.0 C15:33
compdocyikes15:33
FiremanEdtruba: Are you running 12.04/12.10/13.10, which one?15:33
truba12.0415:33
trubaand I am only using lxde and xchat now15:33
darkswisptruba: have you try to check idlepc option15:33
trubano15:34
trubahow to use it ?15:34
darkswispin gns3 my teacher advise me check this15:34
Rorytruba: Is it a laptop? Does your system have a make and model? Could you put the output from running the "sensors" command onto http://paste.ubuntu.com15:35
Akiva-Mobileis there a better more native browser for ubuntu than firefox?15:36
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Rory!best | Akiva-Mobile I like chrome15:36
ubottuAkiva-Mobile I like chrome: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.15:36
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Akiva-MobileRory: Chrome is worse; please read the question.15:36
bazhangAkiva-Mobile, please dont poll here, try some and decide for yourself15:37
RoryAkiva-Mobile: I don't care, please read the answer.15:37
hitsujiTMOAkiva-Mobile: what do you mean by "more native"?15:37
Akiva-MobileI am not polling for the best.15:37
trubahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6709636/15:37
bazhang!info chromium-browser15:37
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 31.0.1650.63-0ubuntu0.13.10.1~20131204.1 (saucy), package size 33155 kB, installed size 120759 kB15:37
bazhangAkiva-Mobile, ^15:38
Akiva-MobilehitsujiTMO: The UI, as with firefox, you notice its scroll bar is not the "ubuntu scrollbar"15:38
Rorytruba: Did you already run "yes | sudo sensors-detect" ?15:38
knightshadewhat's wrong with 50°C cpu temp?15:38
Rory!info epiphany | Akiva-Mobile15:38
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ubottuAkiva-Mobile: epiphany (source: epiphany): clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0-6 (saucy), package size 82 kB, installed size 244 kB15:38
Rory!info epiphany-browser | Akiva-Mobile15:38
ubottuAkiva-Mobile: epiphany-browser (source: epiphany-browser): Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.1-2ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 286 kB, installed size 1028 kB15:38
Akiva-MobileRory: Thanks.15:39
trubano15:39
darkswispfor web browser, someone try midori?15:39
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Akiva-Mobiledarkswisp:  is it native?15:39
trubawhat is it used for , my knowledge is limited15:39
hitsujiTMOAkiva-Mobile: the browser itself renders its own scrollbar. all browsers do this as theres a number of elements thats customisable in css15:41
darkswispfor ubuntu i don't know?15:41
Rorytruba: It detects the available temperature sensors on your system, and loads the modules to use them15:41
Rorytruba: You need to run "sudo apt-get -y install sensors-detect; yes | sudo sensors-detect"15:41
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Akiva-MobilehitsujiTMO: what is more native in your opinion to ubuntu; qt or gtk?15:42
trubaI have done that15:42
hitsujiTMOAkiva-Mobile: neither are "native" to ubuntu. its a poor question. they are both rendering engines. they are both available in ubuntu. neither are "mor native"15:44
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hitsujiTMOAkiva-Mobile: more apps would use gtk if thats the answer that you're looking for15:44
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Akiva-MobilehitsujiTMO: When ubuntu was using gnome, one could say gtk was more native, don't you think?15:44
hitsujiTMOAkiva-Mobile: no. just that gtk is the rendering engine used by most apps. it being native is a poor description15:45
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OerHeksAkiva-Mobile, so you choose browser by scrollbar?15:47
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Akiva-MobileOerHeks: Aesthetics are important. Its why I don't use chrome.15:47
written_direconwhat is a good terminal program with support for serial console (not minicom, putty) for ubuntu?15:48
SwedeMikewritten_direcon: gtkterm15:49
wasanzymy directory is very very large and can not be ls too. rm will b very very slow and can affect the system. how else can I empty the directory?15:50
martianIs there a reason it would be unwise to reuse my ssh private keys on all my client systems or is that what one is expected to do?15:51
hitsujiTMOmartian: you mean put your pubkeys on the clients severs?15:51
Picimartian: or do you mean put your own private keys on your own personal clients that you ssh from?15:52
martianhitsujiTMO: By 'client' I mean personal systems I use to work on; as opposed to servers. Basically instead of generating keys on each of my personal systems and then copying the public keys to my server(s) would it be better to simply generate keys once then copy them to all personal systems15:53
hitsujiTMOmartian: generate once and copy around.15:53
martianok, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking some stupidity in doing that. I guess I've just been too lazy to bother putting much thought in to this and have just opted to have a mess of keys all over the place and like four different keys on github15:55
martianthanks for sanity checking me :)15:55
hitsujiTMOmartian: just ensure that you're copying them in such a way that noone else can get them15:55
martianhitsujiTMO: aye :)15:55
Picimartian: You can always revoke them if something goes wrong.15:55
martianPici: I should probably learn to do that; I think for now I'm going to just clean house on the servers and github15:56
trubacan anyone tell me how to install Broadcomm wireless driver in ubuntu 12.04. I am having no sucess in installing using 'Additional Driver'15:56
Picimartian: I should probably learn how to do it too ;)15:56
martianhaha15:56
knightshadetruba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:57
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tailcalledso I got a problem on ubuntu (newest version, IIRC); my logitech wireless keyboard and mouse (MK710) don't work and generally, no mice work and the cursor is invisible16:01
tailcalledcan't find anything online, can anyone help?16:02
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: do you have a working keyboard now?16:02
tailcalledyes16:02
tailcalledbut not mouse16:02
Stark_uhey guys16:02
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit16:03
tailcalledunable to initialize lsusb: -9916:04
tailcalledhitsujiTMO: I assume that's a bad thing16:05
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: sounds like an issue with your usb host then: lspci | pastebinit16:05
tailcalledhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/670976016:05
Stark_ui have turned off amazon results and recording16:06
tailcalledhitsujiTMO: I assume you want that link?16:07
Stark_uare there anymore privacy issues?16:07
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: according to that you have no usb host controoler.16:07
tailcalledwell, shit16:07
tailcalledwhat should i do?16:07
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: lspci -nn | pastebinit16:07
tailcalledhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/670976716:07
Stark_useriously any help plaeas?16:07
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: do you have usb disabled in the bios?16:10
Acid_MeltdownO/16:10
tailcalleduh, not as far as I know16:10
tailcalledbut I can't exclude the possibility16:11
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: have a look16:11
tailcalledwell, unless that would prevent the usb from sending power to anything connected16:11
tailcalledI should probably start another computer so I can write in IRC while I look16:11
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: prob a good idea :P16:12
Acid_Meltdown'quick' question, just installed linux mint 13 on dual boot windows 8 lappy, now having trouble maintaining wireless connection while running Linux16:12
llutz!mint | Acid_Meltdown16:12
ubottuAcid_Meltdown: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:12
PiciAcid_Meltdown: 'quick' answer, we don't support Linux Mint here.16:12
hitsujiTMO!mint Z Acid_Meltdown16:12
ubottuhitsujiTMO: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:12
Acid_Meltdownah16:12
Pici:)16:12
Acid_Meltdownhehe yes, i suppose that makes since16:12
Stark_uubottu: new to ubuntu any help?16:12
ubottuStark_u: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:12
nitkcan someone help me in remote access service using xrdp..16:13
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tailcalledhitsujiTMO: in case it's relevant, my monitor runs on a USB power-saving cable, so the usb is not *completely* broken16:13
Stark_uubottu: ok16:13
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:13
TeraJLubuntu(LTS) icons, are kinda ugly,(gtk-icons i think), do you guys know any alternative?16:13
Stark_uubottu: cool XD16:13
Acid_Meltdown...how do i change chat rooms :D16:13
xanguaTeraJL: gnome-look.org16:13
hitsujiTMOtailcalled: usb power can be independent of the controller. I don't think its broken, its either disabled or requires some other driver to access the controller16:14
tailcalledhitsuhiTMO: thought so16:15
tailcalledjust would be stupid to withhold info16:15
Stark_uanyone?16:15
hitsujiTMO!patience | Stark_u16:15
ubottuStark_u: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/16:15
Stark_uubottu: thanks alot16:16
k1l_Stark_u: got to systemsettings and then the privacy tab. that is all you want16:16
hasnainHey guys16:16
Stark_uk1l_: done that anymore privacy issues?16:16
k1l_Stark_u: no. how come you think there should be any privacy issues?16:17
hasnainHow much battery timing do you guys get on ubuntu laptop16:17
tailcalledhitsujiTMO: anyway, shutting down, new alias is tailcalled216:17
hitsujiTMOhasnain: depends on the laptop + battery16:18
k1l_hasnain: depends on laptop, battery, used kernel, use case , etc etc etc.. its very hard to compare16:18
Stark_uk1l_: well i met alot of haters16:18
k1l_Stark_u: well, they are haters. what do you expect16:18
hasnain Ubuntu 12.04 kernel 3.816:18
Stark_uk1l_: yeah, i changed my opnion about ubuntu16:19
hasnainDell inspiron 5521, 8 GB ram, 2GB Radeon Card switchable. 1 TB16:19
nitk can someone help me in remote access service using xrdp..16:19
Stark_uand is xubuntu officially supported? thinking of switching16:19
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hitsujiTMOStark_u: there's a lot of people verbal about issues that aren't issues, they simply like to complain. generally speaking, the amazon shopping lens is the only real privacy concern and is extremely simple to disable16:20
hitsujiTMOStark_u: officially support derivatives are http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives16:21
Stark_uhitsujiTMO: they can exaggerate like hell16:21
tailcalled2hitsujiTMO: when was I supposed to open config when booting?16:22
bazhangStark_u, xubuntu-desktop package will do that, you can change at login16:22
hitsujiTMOtailcalled2: immediately upon boot to get the bios settings :P16:22
tailcalled2hmm16:22
trijntjeHow can I connect to my people.ubuntu.com storage with nautilus?16:22
gordonjcphasnain: Macbook 3,1 dual-booting OSX Lion and 12.04, new aftermarket battery, about 3-4 hours from fully charged to "ZOMG NOES FLAT!"16:22
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: with sshfs i suspect16:23
Stark_uquote by haters"ubuntu is bloated,ubuntu is insecure,ubuntu has malware/spyware/virus,ubuntu is slow,unity sucks "..and the list goes on16:23
trubaI am unable to install broadcomm wireless driver here is the output of /var/log/jockey.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709850/16:23
Stark_uwhich newbie to linux won't be scared to shit?16:24
Stark_uwith all that exaggeration16:24
hitsujiTMO!bcm | truba maybe try following the different options here16:24
ubottutruba maybe try following the different options here: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx16:24
Stark_uhitsujiTMO: see why i'm asking?16:25
trijntjehitsujiTMO: it used to be that I could just connect with natulius, but i lost my bookmarks with a reinstall and now I can't seem to add it again16:26
Stark_ubazhang: yes i know that but i have an old machine (p4) thats why i want to install something light on that one16:26
tailcalled2hitsujiTMO: ok, in bios settings16:26
tailcalled2but it seems the keyboard doesn16:26
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tailcalled2't work in here16:26
Stark_ugotta say this channel is ultra active16:27
tailcalled2Stark_u: not as active as I feared16:27
napillaahhhhh16:27
hitsujiTMOtailcalled2: does any keyboard work? even your usb keyboard?16:27
napillaI AM CHATTING16:27
napillaleave16:27
hitsujiTMOthat was bizarre16:28
Stark_utailcalled2: well yeah i get that too16:28
tailcalled2hitsujiTMO: i'm using an old keyboard with these round thingies, but I don't see why a USB keyboard would suddenly work, can try though16:28
nitk can someone help me in remote access service using xrdp..16:28
hitsujiTMOtailcalled2: if its an issue with the os drivers then a usb keyboard should work in the bios at least. kinda weird that a ps2 kb doesn't tho16:29
yash069nitk: what problem are u facing ?16:29
HDRDannyHey, everyone! Wubi doesn't seem to want to work on Windows 7. :(16:29
HDRDannyI'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. :(16:29
tailcalled2hitsujiTMO: usb keyboard doesn16:29
tailcalled2't seem to work16:29
xanguaHDRDanny: wubi isn't recomended, also if you machine uses UEFI wubi will just not work with it16:30
tailcalled2and neither does wireless usb16:30
ActionParsnipHDRDanny: wubi is dead dude, it hasnt been developed for in ages16:30
HDRDannyI know. :(16:30
HDRDannyI figured it'd work for 12.04.3 though.16:30
HDRDannyOh welel.16:30
HDRDannyWell*16:30
pcdoes canonical have a lot of programmers?16:31
ActionParsnipHDRDanny: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28Ubuntu_installer%2916:31
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: try:              file -> connect to server           enter address: sftp://people.ubuntu.com16:31
pcjust curious16:31
ActionParsnipDevelopment status Discontinued16:31
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yash069pc: ???16:31
HDRDannyI only have one disk, but I want to keep WIndows 7 on as well, due to the fact that I use it for gaming. :\16:31
tailcalled2hitsujiTMO: what I wonder is why the round-thingie keyboard suddenly doesn16:31
tailcalled2't work16:31
Guest76143How do I restore settings from a backup'ed .img file of the old root partition and home partition without overwriting the new installation on another machine?16:31
trijntjehitsujiTMO: 'You dont have permission toa ccess the requested location"16:31
nitkyash069: I installed xrdp but unable to connect through windows716:31
Stark_uHDRDanny: dual booting is easy as hell just download easybcd in win716:32
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trijntjehitsujiTMO: same thing when I add ~trijntje to the url16:32
HDRDannyI keep getting an error about "no root file system is defined" and I obviously can't repartition my disk. :\16:32
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: and you have the correct ssh key in ~/.ssh ?16:32
HDRDannyWhy would I buy a piece of software to install free software?16:33
TeraJLi've added this no .bashrc  PROMPT_COMMAND="$PROMPT_COMMAND;history -a; history -n" but i get "syntax error near unexpected token `;'" (following this http://superuser.com/questions/37576/can-history-files-be-unified-in-bash)16:33
Stark_uHDRDanny: its free16:33
Stark_ufor personal use16:33
Stark_uHDRDanny: its a opnion choice is yours16:34
yash069nitk: why dont u try VNC instead of rdp. and u should sesman and then type in user and password16:34
HDRDannyStark_u, thing is, I still don't have a second disk to install Ubuntu or Debian to. :\16:34
yash069* select16:34
metasansanahow can I get glibc2.4 on 12.0416:34
metasansana*?16:35
Stark_uHDRDanny: have you already installed ubuntu?16:35
HDRDannyNo.16:35
trijntjehitsujiTMO: yeah, I can still bzr push to launchpad, so nothing should be wrong with the key16:36
yash069metasansana: sudo apt-get install build-essential16:36
Stark_uHDRDanny: do you know that linux can be installed in a logical partiton?16:36
metasansanayash069, ok I did that, how do I check the glibc version then?16:36
HDRDannyStark_u, I don't, but I PM'd you. I don't want to DCC, sorry.16:36
Stark_uHDRDanny: i triple boot16:36
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: does your launchpad id match your system username?16:37
trijntjehitsujiTMO: no, my $USER is not my name on launchpad, is that a problem?16:38
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: maybe you need to specify: sftp://trijntje@people.ubuntu.com16:38
tailcalled2hitsujiTMO: is there a way to enable the usb host thing inside ubuntu?16:38
yash069<metasansana: emm, ldd -v16:38
trijntjehitsujiTMO: lol, that was it. Damn, why didn't nautilus give a usefull error message16:39
nitkcan I have a quick link to go through VNC installation..16:39
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: :)16:39
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: it did, it sid you did not have permission :P16:39
hitsujiTMOsaid*16:39
Guest76143How do I restore settings from a backup'ed .img file of the old root partition and home partition without overwriting the new installation on another machine?16:39
trijntjehitsujiTMO: well yeah, but if he had said 'bob has no access', I'd have known the problem ;)16:40
tailcalled2hitsuhiTMO: false alarm, seems like the keyboard cable was simply a bit bad, so I had to adjust it to make it work16:43
hitsujiTMOGuest76143: mount -o loop xxx.img16:44
tailcalled2hitsujiTMO: so I'm in the boot setup thing, but everything USB-related *seems* to be activated16:45
hitsujiTMOtailcalled2: cool. now any settings in the bios fir usb?16:45
tailcalled2under "Integrated Peripherals" both USB Controller and USB Device Legacy Support are activated16:46
hitsujiTMOtailcalled2: hmm... try changing usb legacy support off16:46
tailcalled2ok16:46
KalelGreetings.16:46
tailcalled2ok, testing16:47
anewi'm trying to follow this tut for installling this software... problem is everything i find is for GUI... how can i do this with cli ?16:47
anewhttp://safebrowsing.developers.nogisa.com/wiki.hidemyass.com/Tutorials:HMA_VPN_via_PPTP_on_Ubuntu_setup16:47
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KalelI'm attempting to run opengl 3.0 on ubuntu 13.04. Is it already available?16:47
tailcalled2hitsujiTMO: it's working now, thank you :)16:48
hitsujiTMO!yay | tailcalled216:48
ubottutailcalled2: Glad you made it! :-)16:48
zackiv31anyone know how to list all kernels installed in grub2/ubutun 13.10 ?16:49
attackHow to block trace route utility?16:49
hitsujiTMOzackiv31: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-16:49
hitsujiTMOattack: i'm presuming that question is college homework?16:49
attackyup..!! But I didn't get any solution for that. Help me out pls!!16:50
hitsujiTMOattack: trace route uses icmp. so block icmp16:50
Roryattack: Use a firewall16:51
Rory!ufw | attack16:51
ubottuattack: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo16:51
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Acid_Meltdownhow often should i run 'sudo apt-get update'?16:52
anewanyone have any ideas on that ?16:52
yash069hitsuITMO: what about other services that rely on icmp ?16:52
attackI gave my best. But I didn't. eg., sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp 8 -j REJECT16:53
k1l_!away > dziegler_off16:53
ubottudziegler_off, please see my private message16:53
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attackeg2.,sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type 0 -j REJECT16:53
hitsujiTMOyash069: if you want to block trace route then you must block icmp. theres very little practical reasoning for blocking trace route at least so i'd never advise doing it in a real world situation16:54
yash069Acid_Meltdown: set a cron job, for a week or so if u r on desktop/laptop16:54
yash069Acid_Meltdown: if on server it should be more frequent...16:55
anewhitsujiTMO, what do u think of that link16:56
Acid_Meltdownso for personal usage, good rule of thumb is 'bout a wk16:56
Guest76143hitsujiTMO, for mounting the .img file, what folders do I need to copy to the new install to restore the user settings from the backup?16:56
yash069hitsujiTMO: ok.16:56
hitsujiTMOanew: hide my ass sucks to be honest. set up your own vpn on a reliable vps provider16:57
anewhitsujiTMO, any suggestions?16:57
anewhow does it suck, it has like 40,000 ip's16:58
treadSziasztok16:58
treadHi all!16:58
Acid_MeltdownHIYA!16:58
yash069anew: sudo apt-get install pptp-linux16:58
ese_hello, my old hdd crashed, so i install this other hdd with ubuntu configured for another laptop, when i boot from this hdd the system complains about graphic card running in low resolutions, mouse and touchpad not woring either, how can i reconfigure those_16:58
ese_?16:58
hitsujiTMOanew: whenever i tested it i got very little throughput16:58
anewso who did u go with16:58
anewand i cant even get it to run... how the hell did u get it to run16:58
anewyash069, doing that now16:59
hitsujiTMOanew: i rent a dedicated server from ovh and have a vpn set up on a vps on that16:59
yash069anew: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient#PPTP16:59
zackiv31I'm currently on saucy, but running kernel 3.8.0-19-generic .. is that correct? i can't seem to install any linux-headers fori t16:59
hitsujiTMOzackiv31: linux-headers-generic17:00
anewhitsujiTMO, yeah but u wont get access to the thousands of ip's hma has that way... how did u get hma to run? it always fails on getting the  ip17:00
Stark7so xubuntu is officially supported?17:00
yash069Stark7: yes!17:00
PiciStark7: Yes. They also have an official support channel at #xubuntu17:00
Pessimistanew, Don't use hide my ass -- they log everything about you17:00
Acid_Meltdownare toshiba's inherently Linux friendly?17:01
anewi mean who the heck am i supposed to use then17:01
anewthey have so many ip's where else can i get that17:01
hitsujiTMOanew: i cant remember tbh, it was a while ago. I also don't need 1000s of ips. 4 does it for me.     why do you want soo many ips?17:01
Pessimistanew, http://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-that-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2013-edition/17:01
hitsujiTMOStark7: yes17:01
Stark7yash069, Pici hitsujiTMO thanks for the confirmation17:02
Roryanew: ipredator is run by some PirateBay founders, and lets you pay in bitcoins17:02
anewi am making this for a client17:02
anewon an ubuntu server17:02
hitsujiTMOGuest76143: the user setting will be in varous hidden folders in /home/username17:02
anewhe refuses to not use hma... because of all the ip addresses they have17:02
anewand the success he had in the past17:03
Stark7ah peace of mind17:03
anewi need to automate some tasks for him... already have the perl script written17:03
zackiv31hitsujiTMO, that installs 3.11 headers, not 3.8... where are the 3.8 ones ?17:03
anewbut cant fkn connect to hma !!17:03
anewubuntu 13.01 kill me17:03
hitsujiTMOzackiv31: what version of ubuntu are you on?17:03
anew*13.1017:03
anewubuntu 13.1017:03
Guest76143hitsujiTMO, should I copy all the hidden folders to my home folder then?17:03
Stark7i have some security ques. but thats for another day17:03
Keanu73Hi there. :P17:03
Pessimistanew, no one uses hma here because they log everything about their users and would give out all information in a heartbeat. Also this is support for Ubuntu -- the operating system, not the software it runs.17:04
Pessimistanew, so please stop17:04
Keanu73yup, this a ubuntu support channel :P17:04
anew...17:04
Keanu73for any help for problems on Ubuntu17:04
Acid_Meltdown...can i support your ubuntu?17:04
anewhitsujiTMO, can i PM you since u had it running before17:04
zackiv31hitsujiTMO, 13.10 Saucy17:04
Keanu73well, you don't mean support, I mean you need help17:04
Keanu73IF you need help17:04
Acid_Meltdownlol17:05
Keanu73but17:05
hitsujiTMOanew: i dont respond to pms17:05
Keanu73you can donate to Ubuntu :P17:05
Keanu73just go to the Downloads page and download ubuntu desktop17:05
Keanu73and a donation screen will appear17:05
yash069lol, stop spamming here... Keanu73!17:05
hitsujiTMOGuest76143: if you want the exact same setup then yes. personally i'm a little picky as i use different de's so i only copy over settings for individual apps17:05
Keanu73yash069: Oops, sorry, I have to much messages to say lol.17:05
Acid_Meltdownif you can navigate ubuntu well, does that mean a transition into Mint will be easier?17:05
Pessimist!oneline17:05
Keanu73!online17:06
hitsujiTMOzackiv31: 13.10 doesn't have 3.8 kernel. is this from an upgrade?17:06
quemKeanu73: your performance in Coppola's Dracula from 1992 was dreadful, man.17:06
Keanu73o.o17:06
zackiv31hitsujiTMO, yes... on a macbook retina as well17:06
yash069Acid_Meltdown: yes, Mint is much easier17:06
zackiv31how do i upgrade to 3.11 ?17:06
Keanu73I didn't join that peformance...17:06
Keanu73if you're saying it to me?17:06
Guest76143hitsujiTMO, will it also copy old network settings as well?17:06
Keanu73*if you're saying it to me,17:06
Keanu73it must be another Keanu17:06
Keanu73:317:07
Acid_Meltdowni didnt know which one i wanted, so i got both instead, anything beats windows H817:07
Keanu73there's about two Keanus17:07
Keanu73:317:07
FloodBot1Keanu73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:07
Keanu73oops17:07
Keanu73damn17:07
yash069lol17:07
hitsujiTMOGuest76143: yes if you have them stored in your home dir17:07
hitsujiTMOzackiv31: you'd have to either upgrade to kernel 3.11, or add in the repos from 13.04 with apt-pinning.17:08
Keanu73http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710096/17:08
zackiv31yah i just installed linux-image-generic... we'll see how this goes17:08
Keanu73just starting my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS OS on VMware Player :317:09
Keanu73as a VM17:09
Keanu73[virtual machine]17:09
Acid_Meltdownduring updates, i get all the way to [connecting to packages.medibuntu.org] then it stalls at 100%, any suggestions?17:10
Keanu73and by the way, what is a SMBus controller?17:10
yash069ok, so u are 10years old ?17:10
ktannerfor coding games, should i go with mono, java, or other17:10
yash069^Keanu7317:10
hitsujiTMOAcid_Meltdown: medibuntu doesnt exist anymore17:10
hitsujiTMOAcid_Meltdown: remove it from your sources17:11
Acid_Meltdownthat would probably be a good reason to stall17:11
Acid_Meltdown....i need a linux class....17:11
Keanu73ahem, what's a SMBus controller?17:11
Keanu73Keanu73Ubuntu is my other nick on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS VM on XChat17:13
hitsujiTMOKeanu73: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Bus17:13
Keanu73UbuntuHi guys :317:13
Acid_Meltdownhiu17:13
Keanu73hmm, I wonder how to enable the SMBus controller, on startup it says this terminal message: SMBus controller not enabled!17:14
UbuntuUserXUm, so I have two really weird problems. The first is... I have a virus that's changing words to Leopard.17:15
Acid_Meltdowndo you speak Leopard?17:15
UbuntuUserXWhen I went to google solutions to my first problem (mouse and keyboard not working after suspend)... I get, well "Mouse and leopard stop working after suspend or ... - Ask Ubuntu"17:15
Keanu73UbuntuUserX: Hmm, okay, what's the type and the name of the virus? For example for a type, Trojan horse?17:15
UbuntuUserXKeanu73, Erm... I don't know.17:16
UbuntuUserXI can provide screen shots17:16
Keanu73okay17:16
Keanu73show me them17:16
Keanu73and I'll take a look of how to solve them17:16
spearheadUbuntuUserX: do you know if it is a virus or just autocorrect?17:17
hitsujiTMOUbuntuUserX: is this just in the browser or is it systemwide?17:17
Keanu73UbuntuUserX: Query me the screenshots.17:17
UbuntuUserXhttp://pbrd.co/1eEMd7P17:18
Keanu73UbuntuUserX: umm, I don't see any problem there17:19
Keanu73you'd better provide a screenshot of what the virus is DOING17:19
hitsujiTMOUbuntuUserX: check your browser extensions17:19
sunmoonhi all17:19
UbuntuUserXhttp://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2014-01-07_13_16_56-ox7ID3Uf.1389115186.png17:19
UbuntuUserXhitsujiTMO, Okay17:20
sunmoonam looking for help on how to get usb speakers(without audio jack) to work on xubuntu..17:20
sunmooncan anyone please point me in the right direction?17:20
anewanyone knwo why when i edit interfaces to this http://pastebin.com/iPDH5Q9v17:20
anewi cant even connect to my linode remotely ?17:20
anew*my ubuntu17:21
hitsujiTMOUbuntuUserX: looks like an extension like http://pterocorn.blogspot.ie/2011/10/ponify.html17:21
HDRDannyWould anyone be kind enough to help me out with EasyBCD and Ubuntu?17:21
UbuntuUserXChrome Extensions are: Addblock, Aswatia Scrollbars, Facebook Fast Delete, FVD Downloader, Google Mail Checker, HTTPS Everywhere, Logitech smooth scrolling, tweetdeck, Wolfram alpha, XKCD substitutions and Sotero17:21
UbuntuUserXZotero*17:21
ClientAliveI need to create a launcher for a web app (installed locally). I  think it could be done by setting the path field in the gnome desktop thing to something like : "firefox /path/to/app" but how would I write the command in that field to have it execute in a shell?17:22
anewshould i be using openvpn or pptp ?17:23
Guest76143hitsujiTMO, are any settings stored in /etc or any other folders that control network configuration?17:23
sdn3rdwhen I am trying to remove a ppa via: apt-add-repository --remove name/ppa it's not actually removing it17:23
sdn3rdanyone know how to fix it?17:23
ClientAlivewould it be : "exec firefox /path/to/app"? Or can I assume that anything given in that feild will automatily execute in a shell anyway?17:23
UbuntuUserXSo... I have no idea because all of those extensions don't say they change keyboard to lepoard, and the XKCD one is off.17:24
hitsujiTMOUbuntuUserX: sounds like XKCD substitutions is the culpret17:24
jordan__anyone know why my ubuntu is suddenly telling me to insert my installation disk to install certain files. p.s i havent got one i just used an old usb17:24
metasansanawhere is the template stored for .bashrc?17:24
spearheadUbuntuUserX: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skeyboardleopard/oheflacdocadefgdpiimpapbkomhgbbe/details is exactly what you are describing and XKCD substitutions does the same thing...17:24
sdn3rdnvm downloading ppa-purge17:24
UbuntuUserXspearhead, Oh. Well what the heck is it?17:24
theadminmetasansana: /etc/skel is where the files for new users are stored.17:25
sdn3rd/usr/share/doc/adduser/examples/adduser.local.conf.examples/bash.bashrc17:25
UbuntuUserXLovely. Viral chrome extensions. Yet another reason I should have stayed on firefox.17:25
spearheadUbuntuUserX: they are extensions that replace every instance of a specified word with another word...17:25
sdn3rdyou could do a sudo updatedb17:25
sdn3rdthen locate .bashrc17:25
sdn3rdto find that info17:25
metasansanathanks!17:25
spearheadUbuntuUserX: did you not install XKCD substitutions?17:26
ese_hello, i change my hdd from and old pc when this origibal hdd crashed last night, that old hdd have ubuntu in it, am in that hdd rightnow, but ubuntu complains about low graphic resolution, mouse and touch pad is not working either, how can i reconfigure my xorg, that old pc had a amd visio graphic card, this laptop have a intel integrated, please help?17:26
UbuntuUserXspearhead, No17:26
UbuntuUserXspearhead, Why would I install a virus on purpose?17:26
chemist^ese_, have you tried updating?17:27
spearheadUbuntuUserX: does anyone else use your computer, cause it could be a prank... and they aren't viruses17:27
sdn3rdX -configure17:27
chemist^ese_, because just changing a hdd with ubuntu installed to another computer with different hardware... i dunno if everything is going to work out of box :)17:28
sdn3rdese_: X -configure17:28
ese_ok, trying, yes i update and upgrade17:28
UbuntuUserXspearhead, I don't let people use it, Its fully LUKS-ed (Linux) and TrueCrypted (Windows), and I have a password on every account. But, that means nothing since my girlfriend could have done it. Idk, I'll ask once shes home.17:28
chemist^what?17:29
spearheadUbuntuUserX: you can find it in the chrome webstore and see what it actually does.17:29
UbuntuUserXspearhead, I don't exactly watch it 24/7, so she could have installed it when I was doing course work or something.17:29
glitsj16jordan: you probably have the cd-rom defined as a possible repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list, check and comment out the line with a # in the front17:29
UbuntuUserXAnyway, my *REAL* problem is that my built-in (laptop) trackpad and keyboard fail to work after suspending.17:29
spearheadUbuntuUserX: it really isn't a problem, just remove the extension17:29
UbuntuUserXspearhead, Already did.17:29
chemist^UbuntuUserX, why do you use suspend?17:30
chemist^i hate that stuff17:30
HDRDannyWould anyone be kind enough to help me out with EasyBCD and Ubuntu?17:30
jordan__can someone tell me why ubuntu is suddenly asking for my istallation disk to install certain software. p.s. i havent got one i just used an old usb17:30
hitsujiTMOUbuntuUserX: if xkcd substitutions isnt it it could also be a chrome theme17:30
chemist^sleep, hibernation, suspend....17:31
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UbuntuUserXhitsujiTMO, I think it was, because it seems to have gone away.17:31
chemist^HDRDanny, state your question17:31
glitsj16jordan__: you probably have the cd-rom defined as a possible repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list, check and comment out the line with a # in the front17:31
HDRDannychemist^, I have ubuntu installed on D:/ but GRUB won't boot.17:31
UbuntuUserXchemist^, Because its a laptop, and carry it from lecture to lecture. Shutting it down would be too time consuming, and would drain battery more.17:31
chemist^HDRDanny, did you install grub on your masterboot when you installed ubuntu?17:32
chemist^UbuntuUserX, ok17:32
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Kalelis opengl 3 available for ubuntu 13.04? I'm searching obout and got nothing yet..17:32
HDRDannyI figured it did that on its own, as it said it was, but when I booted, it booted right into Windows instead, no prompts.17:32
chemist^yeah you failed to install grub correctly17:33
chemist^you'll have to run your live cd again17:33
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spearheadUbuntuUserX: has this happened a lot? and have you done any updates recently?17:34
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Keanu73o.o17:34
Keanu73what17:34
Keanu73the17:34
Keanu73heck17:34
Keanu73happened?17:34
FloodBot1Keanu73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:34
Pici!netsplit | Keanu7317:34
ubottuKeanu73: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:34
ClientAliveTried to create a launcher icon for a locally installed web application, using gnome desktop. I am not seeing it show up in the dash though. Any suggestions? Do I need to ln -s /usr/bin /some/unknown/place ??17:34
Keanu73oops17:34
Kalel!opengl | Kalel17:34
chemist^HDRDanny boot into your live CD or USB, and we'll repair your grub17:35
Keanu73Pici: Why are you netsplitting me?17:35
chemist^together17:35
PiciKeanu73: Because you're asking whats going on, that is what is going on.17:35
HDRDannychemist^, only one machine.17:35
HDRDannyBut, I'll figure it out.17:35
Keanu73ah17:35
HDRDanny:)17:35
chemist^look on google17:35
chemist^repair grub17:35
chemist^it's a few simple steps17:35
Pici!google17:35
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.17:35
bazhang!fixgrub17:35
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:35
bazhangchemist^, ^17:35
chemist^:)17:36
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UbuntuUserXAnyway, I have a Toshiba Satellite P50. It's got 16GB of RAM, so that isn't the issue. Why would my keyboard and mouse just stop working after suspend, and how can I prevent or repair this?17:36
chemist^i don't know how to use this bot thing yet17:36
chemist^quite new here17:36
spearheadUbuntuUserX: has this happened a lot? and have you done any updates recently?17:36
bazhangchemist^, /msg ubottu and find out if you wish17:36
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Pici!brain > chemist^17:37
ubottuchemist^, please see my private message17:37
UbuntuUserXspearhead, Yes and yes. Every single time I suspend, and I update daily. Its been happening since I bought the laptop 2 weeks ago.17:37
spearhead!bot | chemist^17:37
ubottuchemist^: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots17:37
jpHello All! I am trying to get openvpn working either via command line or in GUI / gnome. 12.04 lts server build.17:37
glitsj16ClientAlive: if you made a small typo or added an unexecutable path in your .desktop file's Exec line it doesn't register in the dash i believe .. pastebin would help to see what you did17:37
ClientAliveJust found out that it put the launcher icon on the desktop. When I move it to the launcher bar it moves there fine but only a copy. When I delete the one on the desktop it deleted the other one too.17:37
jpfailed to find GID for group openvpn from CLI when I try to start it17:37
chemist^ok tnx17:37
spearheadUbuntuUserX: try out this solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218292217:37
ClientAliveglitsj16: What to pastebin? The .desktop file?17:38
glitsj16ClientAlive: yes17:38
ClientAliveglitsj16: Don't know if you saw this above: ""Just found out that it put the launcher icon on the desktop. When I move it to the launcher bar it moves there fine but only a copy. When I delete the one on the desktop it deleted the other one too.17:38
glitsj16ClientAlive: yes, but too late sorry .. tried dragging it into the launcher from your file manager?17:39
ClientAliveglitsj16: Still should pastebin it? I recall that when creating other launchers I needed to create a sim link in /usr/bin before it would show up in the dash. What would I sim link /usr/bin to though?17:39
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UbuntuUserXspearhead, That only seems to be for trackpads, and without my keyboard I'll have to reboot just to say if it worked or not.17:40
glitsj16ClientAlive: don't know without more info on what command you have in that .desktop file17:40
chemist^UbuntuUserX, i believe it's an x-sever related issue17:40
ClientAlivegithogori_: I can try that but how to remove the dt icon and still have it work17:41
ClientAlive?17:41
chemist^UbuntuUserX, what DE are you using?17:41
chemist^which*17:41
ClientAliveglitsj16: one moment, will past it17:41
ClientAlivepaste17:41
UbuntuUserXchemist^, Unity17:41
chemist^UbuntuUserX, try logging-out and back in with a different de...and see if it still blocks it17:42
ese_hello, still no luck, i boot ok under textmode but when i try to boot in gnome the system freezes, what about if i reinstall gnome and X ?17:42
ClientAliveglitsj16: Do you know the path to the .desktop files? whereis is not helping much17:42
glitsj16ClientAlive: try to save the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications, that's a recommended place for user-created ones17:42
spearheadCLientAlive try moving your .desktop file to /usr/share/applications then search for it in dash17:42
chemist^ese_ you'd better boot in text mode, copy your important files and do a fresh install17:42
ClientAlivespearhead: thx. will try17:43
ese_or someone told me how to remuve the ATI driver and install the intel graphics_17:43
UbuntuUserXchemist^, I'm not installing the entirety of gnome-shell just to see if it happens to work...17:43
ClientAliveDo anyone know where the path to the .desktop files?17:43
hitsujiTMOUbuntuUserX: you screen shot shows you using gnome3 not unity http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2014-01-07_13_16_56-ox7ID3Uf.1389116547.png17:43
ese_chemist^: the problem is cdrom or dvdrom is busted17:44
chemist^you can use gnome217:44
chemist^UbuntuUserX, i don't like unity personally... i prefer both kde and gnome17:44
spearheadClientAlive: it is the file that you created17:44
ktannerfor coding games in linux and reducing dependency heck with intra-crossplatforming and binary distribution, should i go with XNA (mono), java, c/c++, python, purebasic, freebasic, gambas, blender bge? wait for leadwerks?17:44
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glitsj16ClientAlive: you said you had it on your desktop no? might be in ~/Desktop in that case17:44
UbuntuUserXhitsujiTMO, That one also has two screens. Different computers.17:44
chemist^ese_, make a live usb17:44
UbuntuUserXhitsujiTMO, I was googling how to make my keyboard work on a second computer since the first one has a broken keyboard17:44
UbuntuUserXhitsujiTMO, Well... not broken, disabled?17:45
chemist^!live-usb | ese_17:45
hitsujiTMOUbuntuUserX: i see, my bad17:45
ClientAliveglitsj16: spearhead: That icon is now deleted. Does that mean the .desktop file was deleted too? I know there is a default location for .desktop files but don't recall where.17:45
chemist^!usb | ese_17:45
ubottuese_: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent17:45
chemist^yeey i did it :D17:46
spearheadClientAlive: look in trash to see if the icon is there17:46
ClientAliveahh yes17:46
sunmoonhi all..17:46
spearhead!cookie | chemist^17:46
ubottuchemist^: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!17:46
chendryhello, all!  I've noticed that when I use Ubuntu 12.04.03 64bit, the load averages are about 70% of what they would otherwise be on a server with identical load running x32.  Can I conclude that a x64 server should be able to handle more load?17:46
ClientAlivespearhead: No it is not in trash17:46
chemist^;DD njamnjam17:46
sunmoonam looking for assistance on how to get usb speakers(with no audio jack) to work on my newly installed xubuntu..17:46
gordonjcpsunmoon: plug them in17:47
spearheadClientAlive: then you will probably have to recreate it... here is a good how-to for adding stuff to launcher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles17:47
glitsj16ClientAlive: it might be gone, or you could do a sudo updatedb and after that do a locate on the filename if you remember that17:47
sunmoongordonjcp, done that and they don't work on my tower or on my friends laptop..17:48
gordonjcpsunmoon: can you see them in the sound control panel?17:48
OerHekschendry, yes, 64 bit has more and bigger registers, commands and security17:48
chendryDerHeks: awesome!  Well that is fantastic to know.  Thank you!17:49
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spearheadsunmoon: are they both running xubuntu?17:50
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FloodBot1!netsplit17:52
OerHeks!netsplit17:52
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sunmoongordonjcp: cannot find sound control panel..17:52
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:52
gordonjcpsunmoon: right click on the speaker symbol in the top right17:53
firehow to convert man page into text file ?17:53
sunmoonspearhead: yes, both running xubuntu..17:53
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Picifire: man something > something.txt17:53
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firePici: yes doing the same thing but it contains some other characters as well, which makes reading difficult17:53
sunmoondone that, doesn't show it..17:53
OerHeks!info gman17:53
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ubottugman (source: gman): small man(1) front-end for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-5.2ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 35 kB, installed size 121 kB17:53
spearheadsunmoon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112962517:53
Gnea!raid17:55
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto17:55
spearheadfire: why do you want to convert man page to text file?17:55
sunmoonthanks spearhead, checking it out now..17:55
firespearhead: going on a journey so want to take out the print out17:55
jpanyone for the openvpn issues ? http://pastebin.com/GXE7d407 (config) http://pastebin.com/3MkwsEG5 (syslog)17:55
jpthanks in advance17:55
ClientAliveglitsj16: spearhead: thx but I'm gonna have to save this for later now. Something came up17:56
firePici: spearhead any idea ?17:57
spearheadfire: you could go to http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi and type in command and print off resulting page...17:57
Picifire: using man -7  might help17:57
spearheadfire: or copy and paste into text file17:58
firespearhead: that's a good idea17:58
spearheadfire: I't not getting any wierd characters doing man command > file.txt18:00
spearheadI'm*18:00
fire<standard input>:873: warning [p 12, 10.3i]: cannot adjust line18:01
firethis is the warning that is displayed18:01
spearheadfire: hmmm, i'm getting a different warning... what command are you trying?18:02
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firesame as you,  man command > command.txt18:02
Gnea!vbox18:02
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox18:02
spearheadfire: yes but which "command" are you trying to print the man page of?18:03
fireman page are created using different type settings till i know18:03
firespearhead: man ssh18:03
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sunmoonspearhead: usb speakers are not being recognized in command line when lsusb is typed..18:04
spearheadsunmoon: have you tried different usb ports and are the speakers powered from usb or external power?18:05
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hitsujiTMOsunmoon: not recognised or not showing up?18:06
hitsujiTMOsunmoon: can you pastebin output of: lsusb18:06
spearheadfire: interesting I am getting 6 warnings for different lines but still no wierd characters... could you pastebin the resulting txt file?18:06
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sunmoonspearhead:yes i've tried all ports. they are powered via the usb, no external power. and i am 100% sure that they are in good working order.18:07
cheekeeI haven't received any updates from  apt-get since last year. Is this the same for everybody? I use 13.1018:07
Picicheekee: What command are you using?18:08
cheekeesudo apt-get update/upgrade18:09
sunmoonhitsujiTMO:root@sunmoon-desktop:/home/sunmoon# lsusb18:09
sunmoonBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub18:09
sunmoonBus 005 Device 002: ID 0458:003a KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems) NetScroll+ Mini Traveler / Genius NetScroll 12018:09
sunmoonBus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub18:09
sunmoonBus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub18:09
FloodBot1sunmoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:09
sunmoonBus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub18:09
Calinousudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:09
Calinoucheekee, use that18:09
spearhead!paste | sunmoon18:09
hitsujiTMOsunmoon: please use paste.ubuntu.com18:11
ubottusunmoon: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:11
sunmoonsorry all, will use correct syntax in future.18:11
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d4rkt1m3sAIDS18:12
d4rkt1m3sAIDS18:12
d4rkt1m3sAIDS18:12
FloodBot1d4rkt1m3s: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:12
spearheadwhy would someone want to flood #ubuntu on purpose?18:13
OerHeksnumber of readers, wild guess18:14
compdocto get back at the evil corporations?18:14
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Emopunkhi all18:16
nautilusswhat is the official name for the connection on the back of a router for telephone lines?18:16
k1l_nautiluss: you will have better chances in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware18:17
nautilussk1l, maybe18:17
firespearhead: yeah just a min18:19
hitsujiTMOnautiluss: rj-1118:19
OerHeksnautiluss, rj11 for phone and rj45 for ethernet18:19
jbwivhi guys. I'm having a lot of problem with mtp on Kubuntu 13.10. I can navigate folders on my phone, but when I get to the deepest folder where content is it says "Could not enter folder /SM-N900V/Card/SomeFolder". anyone else having this problem?18:20
nautilussOerHeks, thanks18:21
DrShoggothis it possible to do an efi install if my flash drive doesn't boot efi?18:21
hitsujiTMODrShoggoth: why exactly won't it boot?18:23
hussainnovice to ubuntu but want to program, will any one help me??18:24
Gneahussain: what would you like to create?18:25
hussaini want create a simple program and run, then i will try for more itself.18:26
MonkeyDusthussain  in what language18:27
senthilkumarneed a help.. i have a python script and also i need to run it as root.. i have created a .desktop on /usr/share/applications/ .. who to ??18:27
DrShoggothhitsujiTMO, It boots just fine,  but the usb stick doesn't boot in EFI mode,  the hd does just fine (win7)18:27
hitsujiTMOsenthilkumar: sudo python-sript.py or sudo python python-script.py18:27
intraderAnyone, I have just installed 7zip. I am unable to find in the terminal or Dash Home. The package manager finds it. How do I execute it?18:27
hussainMonkeyDust: in c++18:27
senthilkumarhitsujiTMO: yes.. how to create a .desktop file for that ??18:28
hitsujiTMODrShoggoth: how exactly is it not booting in uefi tho? your system need to be in uefi mode to access the mbr during the install so you will need to boot the installer in uefi mode18:29
MonkeyDusthussain  do some reading in books, or online, tutorials... have a plan, that sort of things18:29
hitsujiTMOsenthilkumar: you don't. you don't call sudo from a .desktop file18:29
hussainmonkeydust: helping book?18:29
spearheadhitsujiTMO: you can gksudo though18:31
MonkeyDusthussain  go to a shop or library18:31
senthilkumarhitsujiTMO: Ok.. how to create a desktop entry for that to run it as root18:31
hussainmonkeydust: ok thanks but any need to install before starting?18:31
DrShoggothhitsujiTMO, It is in uefi mode, but the boot screen for the boot drive is graphical vs the text grub loader i should get on efi.. unless it is changed in 13.1018:32
hitsujiTMOsenthilkumar: as spearhead suggested, you could call it with gksudo instead, as this will show a graphical request fro the user password18:32
senthilkumarhitsujiTMO: thanks you.. i found it.. its gksu python script.py should be added in the desktop entry file18:33
hussainmonkeydust: vr gone?18:33
buttersanyone able to help me solve this - SMART ERROR 32 on my ssd drive i got18:33
DrShoggothhitsujiTMO, I set the mount point of the EFI partition to /boot/efi and when I install it asks for a "Reserved BIOS boot area"18:33
buttersim getting this S.M.A.R.T. error 32 on my corsair ssd that i just installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS on and it's a little confusing.18:34
DrShoggothshould I just ignore and go on maybe?18:34
compdocbutters, dont is not very helpful. can you pastebin smartctl?18:34
DrShoggothhitsujiTMO, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  <--- i was using this guide18:34
compdoc*butters, SMART ERROR 32 is not very helpful. can you pastebin smartctl?18:35
hitsujiTMODrShoggoth: when you boot, open the bios/uefi boot menu. ensure you're booting the usb as UEFI:usbname  and not: BIOS:bootname             i've seen different grub likes screens on different uefi systems so i wouldn't expect any particular boot screen screen18:36
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butterssmart ctl? compdoc ?18:37
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hitsujiTMObutters: sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit18:38
henrys_hi does anyone have a problem with torrents where multiple torrents will crash the internet connectioN?18:38
hitsujiTMOhenrys_: sounds like you router can't handle the number of connections18:39
spearheador your isp18:39
DrShoggothhitsujiTMO, I'm going to give this a shot... maybe I can get my stuff working in BIOS mode and ditch EFI alltogether18:39
buttershitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710517/18:40
henrys_hm ... k18:40
buttersbut that seems to show my second drive, not the ssd that i am having issues with18:41
JayabharatHi, I am trying to debug a system crash.18:41
henrys_damnit yeah I suppose it's the router18:41
OerHeksbutters change sda to sdb18:42
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demophobiaI'm looking at http://www.staples.com/USB-Wireless-Adapters/cat_CL165749?fids=4224931275 (trying to support local businesses) and am wondering which are compatible with Ubuntu 12.04 ...18:42
demophobia!wireless18:42
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:42
hitsujiTMObutters: seems that was the wrong device. use sdb or sdX where X is the letter for that drive18:42
* demophobia reads https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported18:42
buttersyea, i did sdb18:42
buttershttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6710530/18:43
ObrienDavedemophobia, stay away from broadcom and belkin. more problems with those18:43
buttersmakes no sense that it failed really since the whole system is running on it.18:43
bekksbroadcom works fine here for years.18:43
demophobiaObrienDave: how can I tell if it's Broadcom?18:43
buttersObrienDave, which I would have thought of that when i got this Asus(Broadcom chip) usb wireless adapter for this desktop :(18:43
ObrienDaveit just seems like we get many more questions about those than other brands18:44
hitsujiTMObutters: reading the smart info is different to reading the drive itself. could be dodgy firmware. or could be an issue with the drive itself18:44
ObrienDavedemophobia, you'll have to dig into the chipset specs. broadcom makes sets for other brands as well18:45
hitsujiTMOdemophobia: to be honest its difficult to tell what you're getting when you buy a udb dongle. many manufacturers use different chipsets under the same model.18:46
buttersi think the drive is fine. It's not been used , ever.18:46
demophobia"udb dongle"?18:46
buttersdoesn't mean it can't be bad, just assuming it's not, considering.18:46
limace255demophobia: lol18:46
demophobia'usb dongle', huh? http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-usb-dongle.htm ...18:46
hitsujiTMOs/udb/usb18:46
limace255udb --> udp over usb ? :]18:46
demophobia'udp'?18:46
ObrienDavelol18:46
demophobiaUDP, huh? http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/definition/UDP ...18:47
Jayabharat_I am trying to debug a system crash that occurst during screen brightness adjustment.. system passed memory test > I loaded text console > but now I donot have a SysRq key in my keyboard. What to do next. Any suggestions?18:47
FloodBot1!netsplit18:47
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:47
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hitsujiTMObutters try a firmware update. if theres still an issue i'd look for a replacement18:48
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Jayabharat_I am trying to debug a system crash that occurst during screen brightness adjustment.. system passed memory test > I loaded text console > but now I donot have a SysRq key in my keyboard. What to do next. Any suggestions?18:49
demophobiaLooks like I'll have to open https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported on my cell phone at the store and check each card out ... The inventory at my Staples does not necessarily match what's displayed online, which is somewhat inconvenient ...18:49
ShutterstromGood evening! How can I add a folder called /share to my homedirectory?18:51
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limace255Shutterstrom: making a symbolic link18:52
Shutterstromlimace255: Thanks! I'll look it up.18:52
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t-readyhey all - I just copied my (older) production environment of a pkg over to my dev server, & my dev server still thinks the (newer) version is installed.  is there a way to get apt/dpkg to re-scan that dir/pkg to recognize the older version that I copied over?18:52
Shutterstromlimace255: Will that symbolic link be permanent or do I have to create that on every boot?18:53
limace255no no, permanent, if your target is18:53
utusanShutterstrom: it's permanent18:54
Shutterstromlimace255: Thanks!18:54
limace255de nada ;-)18:54
Shutterstrom:-)18:54
utusanit will still be there if target is not there but will be tag invalid18:56
simpleuserHi there. I like to have two distincts browsers. One for facebook, one for the other things. For the whole web i've got firefox. I'd like to use something else than chromium for facebook. Midori and Epiphany are very tricky with the website. It's displaying fb one time on 10.18:56
simpleuserAny idea of a browser i could use ? Thanks.18:56
pckonqueror18:57
spearheadsimpleuser: why not just have two windows of the same browser open?18:57
simpleuseri'm under wxfce.18:57
simpleuserxfce*18:57
simpleuserspearhead, for privacy.18:58
smacktalk1anyone use rdesktop?  I'm trying to log into my windows box from my linux laptop and it keeps telling mt the password is incorrect....and I know that it isn't18:58
hitsujiTMOsimpleuser: run firefox in privacy mode for firefox18:58
simpleuserI'm using Ghostery for now but i'd like to get rid of it.18:58
pcsimpleuser - chromium is sandboxed?18:59
simpleuserpc ?18:59
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hitsujiTMOsimpleuser: in ff: file -> new private window.......  you could also use a different profile for firefox: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Multiple_Firefox_Profiles19:01
simpleuserThanks hitsujiTMO. Can i use different profiles at the same time?19:01
hitsujiTMOsimpleuser: i don't see why not.19:02
simpleuserOk thanks.19:02
hitsujiTMOsimpleuser: its been a while since i've used them19:02
simpleuserok19:02
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hitsujiTMOsimpleuser: "If you would like to also allow multiple instances of Firefox to run at the same time, add "-no-remote" after the profile name."19:03
hitsujiTMOsimpleuser: this suggests that you can19:03
loki_what is good rss client for ubuntu?19:03
simpleuserok thanks hitsujiTMO :)19:04
linelevelHi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 laptop, which has two mouse inputs built in (a touchpad and a Trackpoint). Sometimes (seemingly when RAM is low and hdd/swap activity is high), the touchpad just stops working, and doesn't come back until I reboot the machine. The Trackpoint mouse controller never stops working.19:05
linelevelI'm wondering: Is there a way I can get the touchpad to "reset" so it starts working again without restarting the computer?19:05
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: http://feedly.com/#welcome <- popular browser based reader19:06
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: sorry wrong user19:07
hitsujiTMOloki_:  http://feedly.com/#welcome <- popular browser based reader19:07
AarginHi19:07
Aargin:D19:07
loki_hitsujiTMO, no i need something with tray notifications19:07
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loki_for example i want know when new version of wine arrive19:07
loki_and i want add some rules.19:07
tommytwotoeHello, I have just installed Ubuntu 12 LTS 64x  | I was wondering if there is a way I can print my specs and show them to you in hopes of figuring out why I am running SO laggy.19:08
hitsujiTMOtommytwotoe: what gpu do you have?19:09
tommytwotoeNvidia 620 2gb19:10
gman!liat19:10
gman!list19:10
ubottugman: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:10
Burritowhy do people always try doing !list? :V19:10
hitsujiTMOBurrito: noone knows. some italian thing anyway19:10
Jayabharat_ I am trying to debug a system crash that occurst during screen brightness adjustment.. system passed memory test > I loaded text console > but now I donot have a SysRq key in my keyboard. What to do next. Any suggestions?19:10
Burritohah19:10
gmansorry guys new to irc :P19:11
tommytwotoehitsujiTMO: Nvidia gtx 620 2gb  is my gpu19:11
gmantrying out leeching19:12
hitsujiTMOoooooh, this one speaks english.19:12
Burritouhm, tommytwotoe, try 'glxinfo' and paste that to pastebin. You can then show that pastebin to someone who knows about that (probably someone here).19:12
tommytwotoeBurrito:  Okay I will do that Thank you19:12
hitsujiTMOgman: this is a support channel. not a warez channel. this server doesn't even allow leeching19:12
DJonesgman: You don't need to leech, you can download the Ubuntu iso's from their own website, pirated materials aren't available on it19:13
tck9is there anything else that needs to be done on ubuntu other than enabling ipv4 forwarding to allow servers on an internal network to access teh internet throguh the frontend ubuntu server? the frontend has eth0 with internet access and eth1 is the private local network19:13
bibichekoHello. How change battery sensor? My șensor is BATTERY19:13
douglubuntu 14.04 = LTS too?19:13
helzsorry disconnected; how can i have multiple incognito sessions running with distinct cookies?19:13
DJonesdougl: Yes it will be19:13
Burritotommytwotoe, glxinfo's output is verbose and scary (at least for me), the things I understand are mostly at the top of its output.19:14
douglDJones, Thanks - err, how do they decide that?19:14
pedro_hi19:14
Darkangelyes dougl19:14
gmanhitsujiTMO: easy19:14
pedro_hola19:14
DJonesdougl: LTS releases are every two years, so 10.04, 12.04, 14.04 etc19:15
douglhi19:15
hitsujiTMOtck9: this is what i use http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710711/19:15
Burritohelz, incognito as in [chrome/chromium]? Maybe try looking at the "--user-data-dir=DIR" tag, and make them different for each of your sessions? That's from google-chrome's manpage.19:15
Darkangelif ur lookin for a better gaming Ubuntu OS go for 14.04 LTS 1 of there goals in 14.04 is gaming19:16
twotoetommyBurrito: That command does not exist it said19:16
Darkangelwhen it comes out19:16
pedro_español19:16
helzBurrito: nice i'll look into that19:16
DJones!es | pedro_19:16
ubottupedro_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:16
AarginHi :D19:16
douglDJones, thanks for the info... I trashed my 12.04 install and was disappointed when I installed 12.10 thru 13.10.... looks like I get another kick at the cat :)19:16
tck9hitsujiTMO: thanks, that worked.19:17
Burritotommytwotoe, 'sudo apt-get install mesa-utils' - but I think you are missing more than that if you are having a lot of lag. Hopefully glxinfo will tell us.19:17
twotoetommyBurrito: Ya It isnt gpu lag eather. This is a new build should work fine. Ill do that and come back19:18
hitsujiTMOtck9: you can also do port forwarding with something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710721/19:18
Ratay23hi19:22
Ratay23i'm new in Ubuntu19:22
Ratay23and I've been Windows user for years19:22
Ratay23any suggestions for me?19:22
Ratay23for example19:22
Ratay23why I can't use my iPhone in Ubuntu?19:23
PiciRatay23: Stop pressing enter every 3 words, for one.19:23
Ratay23;sorry19:23
twotoetommyAnyone know why everytime I try to install anything I get this. | http://pastie.org/8610961 |19:23
FireStormsI have removed Zeitgeist from Ubuntu 12.10, will I be prompted to install it again -- maybe under recommended updates -- when updating my system?19:23
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Ratay23so?19:24
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone Ratay2319:24
Ratay23thanks!19:24
gmananyone using subtle desktop in ubuntu??19:25
Ratay23it stopped working on iOS719:26
TheLordOfTimeRatay23: that's a known issue19:26
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TheLordOfTimebazhang: Ratay23: I have an iOS 7 device, there's no updated iPhone libraries for the latest OS I think19:27
Ratay23TheLordOfTime, is it any solution available?19:27
TheLordOfTimeRatay23: i haven't found one yet...19:27
Ratay23ok. thanks19:27
twotoetommyWierest thing I try to install mesa-util and it tryed to instal oracle-jdk7  why would that be ??19:28
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Ratay23you see, I like Ubuntu, but these things make it I have to use Windows: (19:28
Ratay23what software in Ubuntu do you reccomend to live stream?19:29
Y2KVetI'm using grsync to back up files.  I wish to back up two different directories: my home directory (/home/ted, works fine) and my Web directory, /var/www/. Grsync doesn't like that.  And yes, I read the instructions.19:31
swithdark1plaise server cart credit ?19:31
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gmanmy subtle desktop installation stops working when i start evince  anyone know how to solve this problem??19:32
MonkeyDust!info subtle19:34
ubottusubtle (source: subtle): grid-based manual tiling window manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.11.3224-xi-1 (saucy), package size 151 kB, installed size 527 kB19:34
PavelczWhat should I do with apt://vmware-view-client:i38619:48
Pavelcz?19:48
linelevelHi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 laptop, which has two mouse inputs built in (a touchpad and a Trackpoint). Sometimes (seemingly when RAM is low and hdd/swap activity is high), the touchpad just stops working, and doesn't come back until I reboot the machine. The Trackpoint mouse controller never stops working.19:49
linelevelI'm wondering: Is there a way I can get the touchpad to "reset" so it starts working again without restarting the computer?19:49
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: is the touchpad a synaptics one?19:50
MonkeyDust!vmware | Pavelcz19:50
ubottuPavelcz: VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware19:51
dondopahow do you tell dnsmasq what the gateway is?19:51
linelevelhitsujiTMO: Yes.19:51
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: you could prob bring it back to life with the synclient app: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics19:52
c_smithHey, Steam keeps crashing on Ubuntu (this doesn't seem to happen on Gnome or another spin/distro) if needed, I have a wgetpaste of the terminal output ready19:52
possum_guys i have a problem, my system freezes on boot with "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility"19:52
possum_and nothing else happens19:52
c_smiththe crashes are kind of random, sometimes right away, sometimes after a while19:52
possum_i have been waiting for hours19:52
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possum_i googled a bit but nothing really helped19:52
possum_im using fglrx19:52
possum_i tried apt-get --reinstall install fglrx but it says "not possible, it cannot be downloaded."19:53
c_smithpossum_, did you try running amdconfig --initial -f19:53
dondopaWhere exactly in dnsmasq.conf do i need to go to choose what gateway i want dnsmasq to use?19:53
possum_c_smith: no let me try that19:53
c_smithpossum_, that might be your issue, X will do that if on fglrx and amdconfig --initial -f hasn't been run.19:54
possum_c_smith: it worked before though19:54
AbcdezHello, I am on 13.10, using an USB 3G dongle (ZTE K3765-Z) to connect to the internet. It seems that the "Automatically connect to this network when it is available" doesn't exactly work, otherwise I can connect by selecting the profile manually. Is this a known issue?19:54
c_smithpossum_, before you installed fglrx?19:54
linelevelhitsujiTMO: Do you know a particlar command I can test by any chance? It seems that I already have synclient installed, but the list of possible options/commands is vast.19:54
possum_just randomly one day it stopped. i checked whether ~/.Xauthority is owned by me instead of root because i fouind that on google, and indeed it was root owned, i chowned it to myself, but still nothing19:54
c_smithif so, that's likely because you had the OSS radeon drivers which doesn't need it.19:55
possum_c_smith: i didnt touch the fglrx and randomly today it stopped booting19:55
possum_c_smith: i have been on the fglrx for months19:55
c_smithpossum_, give that command a run and reboot. let us know what comes of it. :D19:55
possum_c_smith: i just tried your amdconfig command and rebooted, now im stuck at the same System V thing again19:55
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: try: synclient TouchpadOff=019:56
c_smithpossum_, alright, that means there's something else.19:56
spq_hi there, i want to install ubuntu 13.10 to a new hdd, but prefer to be able to still work with my computer until im ready to switch the hdds, can i do this with virtualbox or something?19:56
c_smithpossum_, have you upgraded the kernel recently?19:56
possum_ok19:56
possum_:(19:56
possum_c_smith: maybe the autoupdate did it19:56
possum_let me check the kernel version19:56
c_smithpossum_, uname -a will tell ya19:56
possum_uname -a says 3.2.0-57-generic19:56
dondopaDoes anyonehere use dnsmasq?19:57
c_smithalright. and fglrx version?19:57
spearhead!enter | possum_19:57
ubottupossum_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:57
possum_c_smith: it says NOV 1219:57
possum_c_smith: let me find out the fglrx version again, i grepped something before19:57
possum_just a sec19:57
possum_it was 9.1.something19:57
c_smithpossum_, an easy way is fglrxinfo19:57
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possum_c_smith: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep fglrx | grep -i version sayus 9.1.1119:57
possum_says*19:57
possum_c_smith: fglrxinfo says Error: unable to open display (null)19:58
possum_but this is from ssh19:58
c_smithpossum_, yeah, had a feeling that wouldn't work, the fglrxinfo19:58
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rostamHI using ubuntu 12.04 LTS update 3, Missing files/directories: I have observed on afew of my systems, sometimes after reboot some of files or directories are missing,any idea why? thx19:58
linelevelhitsujiTMO: That did nothing. Before running it, I ran `synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff` and it was already set to 0. Also, I should mention: the touchpad 'tapping' still does something even though the touchpad doesn't work otherwise: when this problem happens, a normal "tap" acts like a right-click (as opposed to the usual left-click).19:58
c_smithpossum_, 9.1.11, give me a sec to look that up19:58
possum_c_smith: this is 12.04 btw19:58
possum_ok19:59
MonkeyDustrostam  what files?19:59
bekksrostam: Missing files are a strong indicator of a corrupted filesystem or an unclean shutdown.19:59
possum_well 12.04.3 LTS19:59
dondopaDoes anybody here use dnsmasq? I want to choose my gateway but I have no idea which line i must edit....19:59
c_smithpossum_, you're using a beta (there's a MUCH newer stable version on AMD's site)19:59
possum_oh intersting c_smith19:59
c_smiththe fact that it's the old beta version might be the issue.19:59
rostamI have some files set in the /root. which they gets missed sometimes.,19:59
rostamDo I need to force fsck on boot?20:00
possum_c_smith: i dont even remeber how i installed it, the weird thing is taht apt-get --reinstall install fglrx says "cannot be downloaded"20:00
possum_c_smith: so maybe i have to add a repository with a newer version?20:00
c_smithpossum_, the Ubuntu Wiki has an article on this.20:00
bekksrostam: No, reboot into a livecd and run fsck -f20:00
c_smithpossum_, you probably used AMD's script.20:00
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: maybe try turning it off and on again: synclient TouchpadOff=1 && synclient TouchpadOff=020:00
linelevelhitsujiTMO: Rebooting always fixes the problem, but is very inconvenient (obviously). I was hoping there's a way to stop/start a service or something that would reset its state.20:00
possum_c_smith: does "cannot be downloaded" mean the repository is missing?20:00
c_smithpossum_, no clue.20:01
possum_c_smith: would i have to purge it first?20:01
possum_c_smith: whast recommended, the script or a repo?20:01
c_smithpossum_, well, normally the official repos. but you've gone beyond that for 12.04 and run into issues, so the newest version looks likely to be the best bet.20:01
linelevelhitsujiTMO: That didn't fix it either. I split it into 2 commands: after setting TouchpadOff=1, tapping did nothing. After reseting TouchpadOff=0, the previous behavior (can't move the mouse, tapping right-clicks) was restored.20:02
c_smithpossum_, here's Ubuntu's wiki page about fglrx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI20:02
rostambekks, these systems are installed at customer sites, we can do livecd on each system,. Is there anyway we can force fsck during boot?20:02
AbcdezHello, I am on 13.10, using an USB 3G dongle (ZTE K3765-Z) to connect to the internet. It seems that the "Automatically connect to this network when it is available" doesn't exactly work, otherwise I can connect by selecting the profile manually. Is this a known issue?20:02
possum_c_smith: actually i think i never ran AMD's script,20:02
c_smithpossum_, huh, then you might have the repo version.20:03
possum_c_smith: thanks, it says "The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Additional Drivers manager in Ubuntu." but there is no explanation what "Adiitional Drivers manager" is or how to use it20:03
c_smithpossum_, I take it you're using Ubuntu and not a spin?20:03
possum_yes c_smith20:03
c_smithpossum_, open the dash and type "drivers"20:03
c_smithshould bring up a result for the driver manager.20:04
possum_c_smith: it says command not found20:04
possum_if by dash you mean terminal20:04
possum_note that i dont have a gui20:04
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: is there any info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:04
c_smithpossum_, d'oh20:04
possum_:D20:04
c_smithforgot you had not X use20:04
bekksrostam: Try "sudo touch /forcefsck" and reboot.20:05
rostambekks, thank you so much20:05
c_smithpossum_, k, just purge the current version "sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-dev fglrx-amdcccle" and run "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and reboot20:05
c_smithpossum_, that'll make it revert to the OSS drivers.20:05
possum_c_smith: ok let me try that20:06
c_smithpossum_, then open the Unity dash when you get to X and find the driver manager20:06
linelevelhitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/X6V5xqqC20:06
c_smithpossum_, the driver manager is a X11 app, so it won't run in the commandline20:06
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: can you pastebin the full log20:06
linelevelhitsujiTMO: It's 175 KB20:07
linelevelhitsujiTMO: err, actually 702 KB20:07
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: when was the last time you rebootd?20:07
linelevelhitsujiTMO: let's see.. uptime is 4 days, 16:4620:08
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: can you reboot, sleep, wakeup then pastebin the file.    thats particularly big for such a short period20:08
linelevelI can't conveniently reboot now. That's why I came in here to ask about this.20:09
linelevelhitsujiTMO: ^20:09
dondopaDoes anybody here use dnsmasq? I want to choose my gateway but I have no idea which line i must edit....20:09
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: pk, pastebin the full file then please: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:10
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linelevelhitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710980/20:11
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: synaptics driver is dumping a lot of backtraces in the log. can you report a bug on launchpad.net please. and please add the Xorg.0.log20:13
kriskropdI need to be able to read epub files in bash shell, much like pdftotext20:13
kriskropdsuggestions?20:13
possum_c_smith: it is still computing or something20:13
linelevelhitsujiTMO: Sure, I'll do so now. In the mean time, is there a way I can reset the driver? I'm sure (from past experience) that it will start working once I reboot.20:13
possum_stuck at "removing all DKMS modules"20:14
hitsujiTMO linelevel might need to restart X/lightdm20:14
c_smithpossum_, not sure what you mean20:14
linelevelRight, I meant without closing any of my X apps.20:14
spearheadkriskropd: i know epubs are basically a zip file with different configuration you should be able to unzip it and get to each individual page. im not sure that is what you want though20:16
douglhello hitsujiTMO :)20:17
hitsujiTMOlinelevel: not that i can think of20:17
hitsujiTMOdougl: yo!20:17
dougl:)20:17
kriskropdspearhead: nice tip, okay thanks ill research in that direction and maybe make my own script20:17
linelevelhitsujiTMO: Okay. Thanks for your help.20:17
possum_c_smith: i just mean the apt-get purge command is still running20:18
possum_but it finished now20:18
possum_let me reboot20:18
c_smithpossum_, alright20:18
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possum_c_smith: "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place Errors were encountered while processing:initramfs-tools E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"20:19
possum_damn it says no space left on device20:19
possum_i have to free some space20:19
Jeffro_dougl , u here20:19
possum_or some initram stuff20:19
c_smithpossum_, what is your partition scheme? seperate /boot partition?20:19
douglJeffro_, yes20:19
possum_it says failed to extend /tmp/mkinitramfs_blah20:19
douglwelcome20:19
Jinxed-Could someone help explain to me what is supose to be configured in the Apache Konfiguration section:http://www.vimp.com/en/web/faq-installation/items/installing-webserver-webhosting-and-vimp-on-debian-and-ubuntu.html20:19
possum_maybe this is because the boot got stuck20:20
Jinxed-I am not very familar with apache, and the documentation is very vague on what to change and even where the file to change is located20:20
Jeffro_thanx dougl20:20
possum_c_smith: not a separate boot partition normally20:20
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possum_c_smith: i got 1000s of msgs like this: cp: failed to extend `/tmp/mkinitramfs_PNGyo3//lib/modules/3.2.0-57-generic/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sil24.ko': No space left on device20:20
Jeffro_why did we change chat rooms20:20
possum_which is part of the apt-get command20:20
c_smithpossum_, alright. try running sudo update-initramfs -u20:20
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possum_c_smith: same 1000s of messages again20:21
douglJeffro_, here we describe our 2 attempts to connect and format our external hard drives on our 10.xx ubuntu toshiba and hopefully someone like hitsujiTMO will help us out20:21
possum_i have to free space i guess20:21
possum_im seeing 100% on /dev/sda in df20:22
possum_well /dev/sda120:22
c_smithpossum_, that points to a bad install.20:22
c_smithI think your X11 issues stem from the issue that looks to be a bad fs20:22
possum_c_smith: no just a full disk20:22
c_smithpossum_, ah, in any rate, I gotta go, hopefully someone here can help. :D20:23
possum_:(20:23
douglwhat is the best way to connect and format external hd in ubuntu 10.1020:23
possum_its just a full disk20:23
douglerr 10.0420:23
c_smithpossum_, true, but I have work I gotta get to. procrastination ftl. XD20:23
hitsujiTMOdougl: what filesystem is ont the drive atm?20:24
possum_ok thank sfor yuor help so far c_smith !20:24
c_smithpossum_, no prob. hopefully you get your issue resolved20:24
possum_yeah20:24
douglhitsujiTMO, cant tell but he does not care what is on there I suspect ntfs but as of yet fdisk nor gparted would even see the unit20:24
jhutchinsdougl: What kind of connection?20:25
hitsujiTMOdougl: pastebin output of: lsusb20:25
douglhitsujiTMO, is dated hardware we are helping Jeffro_  with20:25
douglJeffro_, you seeing this?20:25
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hitsujiTMOJeffro_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit20:26
Jeffro_i  am now but I had to get out of query20:26
douglk20:26
douglwe have some good attention here20:26
douglJeffro_, "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" at ~20:27
foxmulder_.net20:27
tony_is there a x64 version of virtualbox ?20:29
Jeffro_dougl u lost me on that one20:29
loki_hello, why this can happen? http://pastebin.com/fBWSS1b020:29
douglJeffro_, type "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" at your terminal prompt20:29
loki_I event have no nvidia-current20:29
jhutchinstony_: Yes.20:30
douglJeffro_, quit gparted20:30
kriskropdtony_: yes, check the virtualbox website for downloads20:30
Jeffro_ok20:30
tony_jhut . hapen to have a link for it ? its not showing in ubuntu sotfware center20:30
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tony_k20:32
Jeffro_dougl  terminal is doing something20:32
Jeffro_dougl "Setting up pastebinit (1.1-1) ... THIS API HAS BEEN DISABLED. Please use Pastebin's new API. http://pastebin.com/api"20:32
douglJeffro_, type "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" at your terminal prompt will download and install and chekc usb stuff and give you a url20:32
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Jeffro_dougl  was that it?20:32
douglhitsujiTMO, his repos are out of date?20:33
spearheadloki: try removing the :i38620:33
kriskropddougl: apt-get update20:33
kriskropdJeffro_: ^^20:33
douglJeffro_, no do a "sudo apt-get update" in terminal20:33
hitsujiTMOdougl: the pastebinit in that repo is too old. 2 secs20:33
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: lsusb | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us20:34
daniel_can someone give me the link to Petra im running mint 1120:34
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kriskropddaniel_: this is #ubuntu ...20:35
Jeffro_hitsujiTMO  over my head please explain. I am a neophyte20:36
kriskropdJeffro_: do you have a terminal open, simply copy and paste, or type each piece of the command in by hand20:36
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: can you type this exact command into the terminal:         lsusb | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us20:36
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kriskropdJeffro_: either version (command with pastebinit or sprunge) will rpoduce a URL that contains the output so we can see what you see20:37
kriskropdproduce*20:37
Jeffro_hitsujiTMO got install curl20:37
douglk20:38
Jeffro_ hitsujiTMO installed curl20:38
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Jeffro_dougl curl installed20:39
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: just rerun the command above then20:39
loki_spearhead, i need i386 package20:39
spearheadloki_: is your os 32 or 64 bit?20:40
foxmulder_.fearwave.net20:40
loki_spearhead, my os is 64 bit, but i need i386 version of dev headers20:40
loki_to compile wine20:40
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hitsujiTMOloki_: to install a i386 package append :i386 to the package name20:41
loki_hitsujiTMO, oh hello, can you look my messages earlier?20:41
Jeffro_dougl gpt curl: no URL specified! curl: try 'curl --help' or 'curl --manual' for more information20:42
loki_i have problem and can't solve it.20:42
spearheadhitsujiTMO: that isn't working for him see http://pastebin.com/fBWSS1b020:42
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loki_hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/fBWSS1b020:42
loki_here it is20:42
hitsujiTMOloki_: have you installed an nvidia driver from a ppa?20:42
loki_no20:42
hitsujiTMOloki_: are you using a ppa?20:43
loki_hitsujiTMO, wine ppa20:43
loki_hitsujiTMO, i have not installed nvidia-current20:44
loki_i have 319 version20:44
hitsujiTMOloki_: can you pastebin: dpkg --get-selections20:44
loki_so i can't even understand what is the problem20:44
loki_ok20:44
spearhead!enter | loki_20:44
ubottuloki_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:44
loki_hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/5068Vzvb20:46
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Jeffro_hitsujiTMO got this "http://sprunge.us/gYOA"20:47
douglJeffro_, HAD to take the dog out... are we progressing now... I am on the macnw soI suck20:48
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Jeffro_dougl got this message "http://sprunge.us/gYOA"20:48
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: ok, so it seems to be able to see the hardware at least20:48
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: can you type this exact command into the terminal:         sudo fdisk -l | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us20:49
Jeffro_oh really I don't see it20:49
loki_hitsujiTMO, why such message appear only when i try install that package? What is link between it and nvidia? O_o20:49
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: 04cf:8818 is the hdd caddy20:49
Jeffro_ok20:49
kriskropdloki_ hitsujiTMO : I could be wrong, but couldn20:51
hitsujiTMOloki_: not sure. can you pastebin output of: sudo apt-get -f install20:51
kriskropdcouldnt you simply add the i386 architecture to dpkg?20:51
hitsujiTMOkriskropd: thats aded already20:51
douglJeffro_, let me get a linux box back here... thismac is crap20:51
Jeffro_where do you see "04cf:8818"?20:52
loki_hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/2XmM4XdQ20:52
kriskropdJeffro_: its in the output you shared with us at sprunge, its the Myson Century Bridge Controller device20:52
Jeffro_thaj20:53
douglJeffro_, is posted on internet with the commands you use20:53
Jeffro_thanks Kriskrop20:53
Jeffro_how come I don't see it>20:53
spearheadJeffro_: its this line: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04cf:8818 Myson Century, Inc. USB2.0 to ATAPI Bridge Controller20:54
kriskropdJeffro_: try viewing the url you shared      'curl -s "http://sprunge.us/gYOA" | grep Myson'20:54
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kriskropdJeffro_: could you run this command hitsujiTMO suggested a few lines up?             sudo fdisk -l | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us20:56
hitsujiTMOloki_: try running autoremove and then try installing the lib again20:56
lonewulf85Hey can anyone tell me of a good program to convert pdf into epub and other ebook formats?20:56
kriskropdJeffro_: fdisk is a lot better for indicating which storage devices you have attached to your machine20:56
kriskropdlonewulf85: there is Callibre, but it might be a bit bulky for your needs20:56
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douglJeffro_, you will learn alot here abd these folks are nice to just listen to... how have you avoided learning linux if you have an install from 2010?20:57
lonewulf85kriskropd, How many formats does it convert to?20:57
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kriskropdlonewulf85: I'm not sure, it's been awhile since I used it - it converted to amz3 epub, pdf mobi and a few others I think20:58
lonewulf85kriskropd, Okay I will check it out thanks.20:59
Jeffro_????? just an end user my brother help some but he doesn't know as much as you guys20:59
spearheaddougl: ubuntu makes it easy to not learn linux if you don't want to...21:00
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loki_what meen 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 33 not upgraded. ? Why 33 not upgraded?21:00
kriskropdlonewulf85: do experiment with Callibre before giving it access to all your ebooks - it has its own way of organizing books on the file system that may or may not appeal to you21:00
douglagreedx221:00
loki_hitsujiTMO, it don't help, same error again.21:00
hitsujiTMOloki_: run: sudo apt-get upgrade to get rid of that message21:00
Jeffro_dougl  r u guys programers?21:01
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hitsujiTMOloki_: pastebin: apt-cache policy libfreetype6-dev:i386 && apt-cache show libfreetype6-dev:i38621:02
lonewulf85kriskropd, I am just needing it to convert the Halo books to a format my nephews player will read.21:02
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: can you also run:         sudo fdisk -l | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us21:02
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: and give us the link21:03
douglJeffro_, not me i am a tinkerer who breaks his computer all the time so i use kubuntu cuz ur up and running in less than an hours21:03
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kriskropdlonewulf85: I'd give you a simple command line program if I knew of one, but I tend to avoid epub format out of preference21:03
lonewulf85kriskropd, Yeah me to but his mp3/e reader is a cheep one so yeah.21:04
Jeffro_hitsujiTMO got  http://sprunge.us/RZQM21:04
HDRDannyWould anyone like to help me load up Windows 7 onto a new GRUB record?21:05
hitsujiTMOlonewulf85: whatever happened to the days of reading tolkein or roald dahl? be warned that i've yet to seen a converter that converts to epub gracefully.21:05
loki_hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/3rRczUaw21:05
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BeldarHDRDanny, Sudo update-grub in ubuntu does not add it?21:06
HDRDannyNo.21:06
Beldarsudo*21:06
HDRDannyI'm downloading a tool called GRUB Customizer though.21:06
lonewulf85hitsujiTMO, He is reading tolkien right now he just finished the hobbit and is moving on the the lord of the rings, He just also want to read the Halo books.21:07
BeldarHDRDanny, the customizer will not add it, have you perhaps used the bootrepiar app?21:07
Beldar!bootscript | HDRDanny run and post21:08
duhamelhello all. i am wondering how to remove app labels from desktop in ubuntu 13.1021:08
Jeffro_dougl  What's going on here?  I am trying to follow but am getting lost.21:09
HDRDannyIt's updating GRUB21:09
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HDRDannyOkay.21:09
HDRDannyOne sec.21:09
duhamelicon labels i should shay. i tried gconf-editor but it didn't work.21:09
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: its difficult to tell whats going wrong. the atapi bridge is visible, but not the drive. So the drive could be not connected correctly inside, or else the disk itself may be deceased21:09
Jeffro_what is "http://sprunge.us/RZQM" do?21:09
HDRDannyBeldar, http://pastie.org/861127721:10
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: http://sprunge.us/RZQM is the output of the command21:10
BeldarHDRDanny, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ this is the script21:10
douglsorry i bailed there Jeffro_ brb21:11
Jeffro_hitsujiTMO ok21:11
duhamelgoogle keeps telling me to use gconf-editor but it has no affect.21:11
Jeffro_dougl no problem. u don't know how much I appreciate the help21:11
BeldarHDRDanny, I was trying to trigger the bot with !bootscript to give you that url.21:11
HDRDannyBeldar, http://pastie.org/861128721:12
anewi am running a vpn on ubuntu, how can i check my ip after i connect to the vpn? when i ifconfig i still see the ip of my machine21:12
douglJeffro_, happy to do it in my case and these other guys are pretty nice in my experience...21:12
HDRDannyanew: ipchicken.com ?21:13
duhamelanybody know of a stetting in nuatalis somewhere to get rid of desktop icon labels?21:13
duhamelor a command in terminal?21:13
anewyeah duh will install lynx21:13
hitsujiTMOanew: whatismyip.com21:14
BeldarHDRDanny, I see windows listed, it should be in your grub menu, have you modified the grub menu?21:14
HDRDannyYeah, just now.21:14
HDRDannyThat's what I was saying.21:14
Jeffro_dougl, I see21:14
HDRDannyGRUB Customizer had it in the options to add or not to add.21:14
HDRDannyI should be good to restart, right?21:14
BeldarHDRDanny, Ah well what was the end goal?21:15
HDRDannyWanted to properly dual boot with GRUB as the MBR.21:15
kriskropdanew: I was afk - if you have curl you can simply run 'curl -s ipecho.net/plain' and it will give you what appears as your external IP from that shell21:15
HDRDannyOkay.21:16
HDRDannyGonna reboot.21:16
HDRDannyWish me luck. :P21:16
BeldarHDRDanny, Cool, yeah maybe the customizer added it I did not think it had that option, sure reboot and check it.21:16
dougl14,04 grub install just bricked my box ~ go team ubuntu - lol21:16
rwwdougl: congratulations on finding a bug in an unsupported testing release. Launchpad bug filing time!21:17
kwameHi, I'm attempting to increase the # of open files for the mysql user in ubuntu 12.0421:17
duhameldoes anybody know how to remove icon labels from desktop in ubuntu 13.10. Editing font size in gconf-editor>apps>nautalis>Preferences didn't work21:17
anewi had to edit my nameservers in resolve.conf21:17
kwameI edit the limits.conf file but when I login as the mysql user my changes are not showing up for that user21:17
anewbut this is not permanent21:17
anewhow cani make these changes permentn21:17
douglrww, where is my prize - lol21:17
spearheaddougl: 14.04 support is on #ubuntu+1 if you want help...21:17
kriskropd!cookie > dougl21:18
ubottudougl, please see my private message21:18
hitsujiTMOAnew: edit the head  ... /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head21:18
kwameany ideas?21:18
douglnah spearhead not guving up that quick...21:19
douglLOL21:19
spearheadJeffro_: what kind of external hard drive enclosure are you using? can you open it to make sure the connection to the hard drive is good?21:19
Beldardougl, I would be careful in getting pumped up that it was 14.04's fault when more than likely not.21:19
spearheadBeldar, dougl: it could be a picnic...21:20
GlycanI can't make a binary file executable because it's on a FAT filesystem. It works if I copy it over, but I don't want to. How do I figure out what to run it with?21:20
HDRDannyBeldar, it works.21:21
HDRDannyctcp version HDRDanny :)21:21
BeldarHDRDanny, Cool, good job.21:21
Jeffro_spearhead  I could open it, although I never have. it is a small thin ext hdd my brother gave me for xmas years ago21:21
duhameldoes anybody know how to remove icon labels from desktop in ubuntu 13.10. Editing font size in gconf-editor>apps>nautalis>Preferences didn't work21:21
douglno - I was prepared for this... its beta... no worries - I did a backup... we are all good except for Jeffro_ I AM more concerned with him he wants 13.1021:22
kriskropdJeffro_: we are probably all thinking: 1. the disk is bad 2. the disk is nto properly connected 3. the case the disk is in is bad21:23
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kriskropdnot*21:23
Jeffro_dougl, when I go to system/admin/software sources and click on upgrade, system locks up21:23
kriskropdJeffro_: when we see issues like this, it appears as a ahrdware issue21:23
douglhmmm21:23
kriskropdhardware*21:23
Jeffro_kriskropd, with the hdd or the laptop?21:24
BeldarHDRDanny, I wonder if maybe windows needs a chkdsk run, the os-prober should have loaded it.21:24
douglJeffro_, did you do a "sudo apt-get update" yet in the flurry of advice?21:24
kriskropdJeffro_: the hdd - this is an external hdd, correct?21:24
Jeffro_sec21:24
Jeffro_dougl, no but I will do it now21:25
douglJeffro_, cant hurt21:25
kriskropdit might not be supported anymore ....21:25
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ZolomonI can't ssh into my ubuntu server with public keys. I have set the permissions correctly. It works if I mount the server disk on my desktop, but as soon as I try with the disk back on the server box the keys are not accepted anymore. If I login with password first, and then remotely, accessing via my external IP, try to ssh into the server it works.21:25
spearheadkriskropd: is there a way to get the end of dmesg on sprunge?21:26
duhameldoes anybody know how to remove icon labels from desktop in ubuntu 13.10. Editing font size in gconf-editor>apps>nautalis>Preferences didn't work21:26
Jeffro_dougl, I get alot of "W: Failed to fetch..." and "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."21:26
ZolomonWhat could be wrong? ssh -vvv gives: debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method as error.21:26
spearheadZolomon: when you installed ubuntu did you select to have your home directory encrypted?21:27
Zolomonspearhead: yes, I think so21:27
douglJeffro_, maybe that is why only the dumbest one you are talking to suggested it - LOL21:27
Jeffro_dougl,  I don't know what that means except it won't work21:28
kriskropdspearhead: yes? is it not working?21:28
spearheadZolomon: if your home directory is encrypted then unless you are logged in the sshd process can't access your authorized_keys file. there is a writeup on this somewhere let me find it.21:28
kriskropdspearhead: maybe try dmesg 2>&1 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us21:28
hitsujiTMOspearhead: dmesg | tail | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us21:28
douglJeffro_, still on the mac so hard to type but did we hit a dead end with the others helpers?21:28
spearheadI was just wondering about having Jeffro run that to see if the hdd is even recognized by the computer or some other error...21:28
Zolomonspearhead: I found it, thanks!21:28
Zolomonhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys21:29
spearheadZolomon: yeah that's it21:29
Beldarspearhead, You a Michael Franti fan per chance?21:29
spearheadBeldar: I don't even know who that is...21:29
Jeffro_kriskropd, yes it is an external hdd21:30
Zolomonspearhead: Supermany thanks! I have been going bananas over this issue for the past two weeks.21:30
Psil0Cybin Hey guys trying to install ubuntu server and im having problems with the keyboard it died on me mid config?21:30
spearheadZolomon: np, i had to do that on my server too21:30
Psil0Cybinlike I cannot use it, and nothing lights up but they keyboard works fine on my laptop21:31
Psil0Cybinit was working to get into the install menu21:31
BenderHey guys. Is there a way to kill all running programs before a reboot?21:31
Jeffro_dougl, it seems that the dumbest one is still smarter than me. lol21:31
Beldarspearhead, He has a band with your nick as the name is all, just curious, he originally was the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy very early hip pop.21:31
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: usb keyboard?21:31
kriskropdJeffro_: it's mostly a matter of familiarity, not intelligence21:31
Psil0Cybinnvm something is odd21:31
Psil0Cybinanother usb slot worked :S21:31
Psil0Cybini might need to call the company who built the machine21:32
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spearheadBeldar: yeah I just pulled him up on YouTube and yes I do like his music but my nick didn't come from that...21:32
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Jeffro_kriskropd, well I am not at all familar with programing except in basic and some fortram21:33
Jeffro_fortran21:33
Beldarspearhead, Check out the disposable it has some social comment that is to the point without the modern hip pop marginalizations of groups and gender.21:33
Jeffro_long time ago, ina glaxay far far away21:33
kriskropdJeffro_: I've never tried to progam in either of those languages, so you'd have a step up on me in that regard :)21:34
Variussdoes anyone know how to add my own folder to classpath??21:34
BenderIs there a way to kill all running programs before a reboot?21:35
douglJeffro_, if fortran counts (ha ha) i am a programmer no pun intended :)21:35
Jeffro_it's been so long, I have forgotten every thing21:35
kriskropdJeffro_: I'd suggest showing us output of dmesg, as spearhead noted, but honestly I wouldn't know where to start in reading that log output :/21:35
pierosalve21:35
Salvepiero: Not the guy you think i am. :)21:35
Jeffro_kriskropd, I agree since I don't really know what that means :(21:36
steffsudo kill [PID]21:36
pieronon si capisce na mazza21:36
robotti^21:36
spearheadBeldar: to kill all processes by a user killall -u userid21:36
anewhitsujiTMO, it says at the top of that file "do not edit this file your changes will not be saved"21:36
Beldarspearhead, I just usually do  killall "app" I have not run a userid in a long time not sure.21:37
hitsujiTMOanew: thats the template that inserts the text to the generated /etc/resolv.conf        any changes to the head is permanent21:38
Jeffro_dougl, Well if we have hit a dead end, I need to take a br break.21:38
Zolomonspearhead: same problem. :'(21:38
spearheadJeffro_: try unplugging the hard drive, plugging it back in and then running the command      dmesg | tail | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us21:38
Jeffro_spearhead, Ok, I wil give it a try21:38
spearheadZolomon: did you set the permissions right on the file that you moved? and also if you want to add a key to that file you will have to do it manually21:38
kriskropdspearhead: I've a feeling tail won't give you enough information :x21:38
kriskropdspearhead: that said, it couldn't hurt21:39
da1lyHi. I'm attempting to apply my ~/.zshrc to update zsh. Using "source ~/.zshrc" brings back that permission is denied, and running it as sudo causes an unrecognized command output. Thanks for help in advance.21:39
hitsujiTMOspearhead: just give us the full output:  dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us21:39
Zolomonspearhead: I set permissions after creating the dir and moving the authorized_keys file, updated sshd_config to the new path, restarted ssh service21:40
Jeffro_spearhead, this is what came back "http://sprunge.us/SfRM"21:40
anewhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/apM8UStc is this correct ?21:41
hitsujiTMOanew: personally, i wouldn't bother with the domain or search but there may be no harm in leaving it there21:42
spearheadhitsujiTMO: does that tell you anything? it gets the disconnect and reconnect and scan... but I don't see product or vendor ids...21:42
U-BUNTUhello21:42
spearheadhitsujiTMO: to me it says that the hdd isn't connected properly...21:43
hitsujiTMOspearhead: i'd assume its not finding the drive itself21:43
hitsujiTMOspearhead: yeah, or its dead21:43
spearheadJeffro_: what is the brand and model of the hard drive? there should be a sticker on it somethere21:44
spearheadhitsujiTMO: unless it is not getting any power wouldn't it still see the chip?21:46
Jeffro_dougl, just opened the Beyond Micro case and it has a 250 Gb Barracuda hdd in it21:46
hitsujiTMOspearhead: no that would require power21:47
douglnice21:48
spearheadJeffro_: could you completely remove the hard drive and then plug it back into the case making sure the connections are good and tight21:48
Jeffro_dougl, just checked all the connections, and everything looks good. then plugged it in and ubunto sees it.   WTF21:48
Beldar!wtf | Jeffro_21:49
ubottuJeffro_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.21:49
douglgood21:49
kriskropdJeffro_: well I'm glad it turned out to be an easy solution then :)21:49
douglnintendo used to work that way too21:49
* kriskropd huff puff21:49
spearheadJeffro_: sometimes in these cases the hard drive can shift just a little and cause a bad connection.21:50
Jeffro_good to know.21:50
douglwtf = why the face?21:50
Zolomonspearhead: any other ideas on what might fix it?21:50
hitsujiTMOwft = worse than failure21:50
Jeffro_what the f*ck21:50
douglah21:50
douglthe f word noooooo!!!!!21:51
BeldarThe context of those three letters indicate what was meant21:51
Jeffro_or21:51
Jeffro_what the frack (BSG)21:51
BeldarThis is a worldwide channel respect for others in this area is an obvious need and a channel rule.21:52
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spearheadZolomon: can you describe your problem again? you can ssh from your server to your computer but not the other way? and but if you ssh in with a password and then while that is still open you can ssh in with a key?21:53
spearheadusing keys21:53
Jeffro_dougl, so after I do a bakup, how should I procede with a new install of Kubuntu, or should i not go with kubuntu yet?21:54
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Psil0Cybinguys trying to install ubunntu server i am stuck on the menu that says configure the network, the name servers are used to look up host names on the network please enter the ip address, etc21:57
Psil0Cybini have never done this before? It is a standard install from USB do i leave it blank/21:57
Psil0Cybinor go back? and change a setting?21:57
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douglJeffro_, oh yes'21:58
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: are you using static ips or dynamic?21:58
douglkubuntu 13.1021:58
Psil0Cybindynamic21:58
Psil0Cybinbut i am installing it from the usb :P I went to go back and it continued i guess21:58
Psil0Cybinand asked me to enter the hostname for the system?21:58
Psil0CybinI guess i do Rety Network Autoconfiguration21:58
Psil0Cybinor will that auto name my hostname?21:58
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spearheadPsil0Cybin, you can make up a host name just make sure it doesn't match anything else on the network21:59
spearheadmaybe something like ubuntu-server21:59
Jeffro_dougl, do I need to put kubuntu on a cd?22:00
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: your dhcp should have supplied namerserver then.            the hostname is a unique name for the computer.22:00
JO0stjeffro, you can install from a memory stick22:00
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douglJeffro_, or usb22:01
spearheadJeffro_: you can use either a cd or a flash drive. what os are you running now?22:01
andresmhI have headless Ubuntu 13.10 on a little ARM device with a wifi adapter connected to it. I'm unable to get an IP from DHCP: 'sudo dhclient wlan0' takes a while to run and when it comes back the wlan0 still doesn't have an IP. Here's the output of iwconfig and ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/ygd8Tqsb22:01
Jeffro_the largest mem stick I have is 16 gb. Is that big enough?22:01
JO0stjeffro, it certainly is22:01
Jeffro_spearhead, I am running ubuntu 10.xx22:02
spearheadJeffro_: definately, the system you will be putting on it is only about 1Gb22:02
hitsujiTMOJeffro_: 1gb is more than enough to install it from22:02
Jeffro_Ok22:02
Jeffro_spearhead, it kubuntu an easier install than ubuntu?22:03
douglJeffro_, yes...22:03
douglbecause ubuntu changed from what u r used to22:04
Jeffro_dougl, exactly what is the difference bewenn the two?22:04
douglgnome and kde22:04
possum_hi i want to configure my lan as "manual" in network manager, but i dont want to set a gateway or a dns server, because there is neither. i cannot click "save" until i specify both though. what can i do?22:05
JO0stpossum, if you don't have either of them your internet connection won't work22:06
possum_JO0st: corrent, and i dont want my internet connection to work on the lan because my lan is not connected to the internet22:07
x_Does anybody have a printer that does duplexing and can send me their ppd file to look at?22:07
OerHekspossum_, default would be the router adress22:07
cristian_cHi22:07
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possum_this is a common use case, lan without internet so what the...?22:07
Jeffro_dougl, don't know the difference between kde and gnome.  Shells?22:07
possum_OerHeks: there is no router22:07
cristian_cI'm using mtpaint, I've looked for in the doc, but I've not found an answer22:07
OerHekspossum_, you must have a gateway22:07
cristian_cI'd like to align the text for eample, but I don't know how to do22:07
possum_JO0st: correct*22:07
possum_OerHeks: why?22:07
spearheadJeffro_: the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the desktop environment, ubuntu 10.xx used the gnome interface which is what you are used to, since then ubuntu has switched to unity which takes some getting used to but is really easy for the end user. KDE is the other very popular option and that is what kubuntu runs. this website has screenshots showing the basic difference between gnome and kde http://www.linuxuser.co.uk22:07
spearhead/features/gnome-vs-kde22:07
cristian_cAny ideas?22:08
lonewulf85I need help installing CISCO packet tracer 6.0.1 in Ubuntu.22:08
possum_OerHeks: there is no internet and no other network to route to. this is an entirely common use case. a local area network22:08
possum_what the fnuck?22:08
spearheadJeffro_: that url got split... http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/gnome-vs-kde22:08
Jeffro_spearhead, thanks22:09
possum_guys22:09
spearheadJeffro_: and here you can take a basic tour of unity: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/take-the-tour22:09
possum_what the fsck is wrong with ubuntu?22:09
spearhead!language | possum_22:09
ubottupossum_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:09
possum_i cannot even implement a totally normal use case, namely a local area network without internet?22:09
possum_spearhead: dude how did you catch me? i was veiling stuff cleverly22:10
Psil0Cybinokay perfect will try it again now22:10
hitsujiTMOpossum_: that nm not ubuntu. nm suuuucks22:10
possum_hitsujiTMO: THANKS22:10
OerHekspossum_,  a lan without router? or switch ?22:10
possum_hitsujiTMO: indeed22:10
possum_seems so22:10
possum_OerHeks: a switch yes22:10
possum_OerHeks: a switch does no routing or dns22:10
possum_what the22:10
spearheadpossum_: context22:11
possum_heh22:11
Psil0Cybinhey guys I am running the auto network configuration on the server hitsujiTMO22:11
Psil0Cybinso i am assuming if autoconfiguration failed, what would i do?22:11
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douglJeffro_, keep me posted... I like ti see a happy kubuntu user22:12
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possum_OerHeks: seriously, what kind of stool is this?22:12
spearheaddougl: are you using kubuntu?22:12
Jeffro_dougl, how do I get in touch with u again?22:12
possum_how can i create a simple lan without gateway22:12
JO0stpossum_: which version of ubuntu are you using, for me it works perfectly22:12
lonewulf85Please CISCO Packet Trace 6.0.1 for linux, I need it for the netacad online course.22:13
possum_JO0st: 12.04, not sure what you mean by "work", i cannot configure it without providing a gateway and dns server22:13
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: I keep getting your network is probably not using the DHCP protocol22:13
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: you can skip network config and configure it after the install has finished if theres a problem. Usually the only reason for the auto config to fail is that you have a driver issue or no dhcp22:13
douglspearhead, yes thanks to unity...22:13
Psil0Cybinoh22:13
douglJeffro_, facebook?22:13
Psil0Cybinwell its connected through the etherner net22:13
Psil0Cybinso ill try to do do not configure the network at this time?22:14
kriskropdlonewulf85: last time I used Cisco's Packet Tracer, they hada  gtk version avaialble in a tarball, check the website22:14
Jeffro_yep I am on there but will you be listed as dougl?22:14
kriskropdlonewulf85: admitingly that was years ago before I realized net-tech wasn't for me22:14
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: yes, but you will need to configure it manuall after ( and possibly install drivers too)22:14
douglJeffro_, doug larret22:14
lonewulf85kriskropd, I have a sh script meant for Ubuntu but it just does not want to work.22:14
Psil0Cybinhmmm install drivers, how would I do that if it is a new system without a CD rom drive ....ep22:14
Psil0Cybinthey gave me drivers in CD format, but they said it was for windows22:15
JO0stpossum_: did you specify an IP addres for your own pc?22:15
Jeffro_dougl, I am Jeff Tilghman22:15
douglJeffro_, all pg tho22:15
kriskropdlonewulf85: should just be a simple tar.gz file with a binary inside22:15
spearheaddougl: yeah, unity made me look elsewhere too, first back to gnome 3.10, then to kde, and now I am trying i3-wm which I think i like the best... very simple and basic once you get it configured, but very hard to configure the way you want...22:15
Jeffro_dougl, ??22:15
lonewulf85kriskropd, I will try the one for linux and see.22:15
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: I did skip network config and now I am stuck on a purple screen22:16
Psil0Cybinis that normal or perhaps I have a problem with my usb stick install?22:16
douglJeffro_, ???22:16
Psil0Cybinit just shows a purple screen with a gray bar at the bottom and the black |22:17
Jeffro_dougl, all "pg tho" mean?22:17
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: give it a minute or two.22:18
apb__trying to run a scanner program (iscan from epson)... it requires I use sudo... problem is all the defaults then assume I'm root, so each time I scan I have to manually change directories to save my files, instead of being able to click the "Documents" button and be (almost) where I want to be.22:18
douglno xxx or swearing please on public facebook Jeffro_ lol my facebook rules :)22:18
andresmhSo there's an open wifi network that shows up fine on 'iwlist wlan0' but when I connect to it, DHCP doesn't give me an IP. Any ideas?22:18
spearheadJeffro_: you can hang out here for as long as you need and if you have any problems, someone here will help.22:18
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: might need to just restart the install, but could be a sign of a bad install medium as you suggested.22:18
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Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: i am trying another USB22:19
Psil0Cybin:D22:19
Jeffro_spearhead, thanx, to all of you hitsujiTMO kriskropd and dougl.  Thanx alot :)22:20
Psil0Cybini was using a 3 gb usb, perhaps something got messed up22:20
Psil0Cybinnow i am trying an 8gb usb.22:20
ROPAis there a utility program that makes the cursors loug and largr and prominent (such as microsoft has supplied with their keyboards for years)?22:20
ROPAloug = loud.22:20
andresmhI posted on askubuntu.com my issues connecting to the wifi. I'm hoping someone here might have an answer?22:22
andresmhhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/401800/unable-to-connect-to-open-wifi-on-a-headless-ubuntu-on-arm22:22
HDRDannyBeldar, I didn't see what you said, I went AFK and now it's gone forever. :(22:23
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Daekdroom!quantal22:24
ubottu12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120422:24
BeldarHDRDanny, I just mentioned a wonder if Windows might need a chkdsk /f/r the os-prober should have added it ti grub is all.22:24
Beldarto*22:24
spearheadJeffro_: if you really don't like the options of unity or kde ubuntu comes with an option to load GNOME Clasic when you login which would be very similar to the gnome you are used to.22:25
Beldarafk22:25
HDRDannyWell, it's all good now. Seemingly everything is working properly.22:25
HDRDannybrb22:25
HDRDannyBack.22:26
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Jeffro_spearhead, is that the initial login or normal login22:28
dougielhey?22:28
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: i am using startup disk creator to install the ISo22:29
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Psil0Cybinbut a pop up came up saying distribution upgrade22:29
Psil0Cybini was confused and closed it22:29
Psil0Cybinwas that for the server or for my system?22:29
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: no22:29
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: what version of ubuntu are you on now?22:30
Psil0Cybin12.04 LTS22:30
douglgot my brick all tricked out again...22:30
Psil0CybinXubuntu 12.04 LTS22:30
douglerr one more thing22:30
hitsujiTMOkk. 13.10 SDC is quite buggy22:30
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: since i canceled22:31
Jeffro_gotta go, supper is ready see ya guys later.22:31
Psil0Cybini hope i did not break my system ugh22:31
Psil0Cybin:(22:31
spearheadJeffro_: normal login but I would recommend trying either unity or kubuntu, just to see if you like it better, if you download the iso of either of them and create a startup disk with it then you can boot to that disk and try it if you don't like it then try the other one.22:32
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: shouldn't. no idea where that dialogue came from to. should have nothing to do with SDC22:33
Psil0Cybinsame here let me try and restart22:33
Psil0Cybinand see if my computer is still fine22:33
p3rsistWhat do you guys think of docker?22:34
Beldarp3rsist, channel is not for polling is all, do you have an issue needing support?22:37
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p3rsistBeldar, No. Thanks.22:37
DaemonicApathyIs it feasible to keep an entire user account on an external drive, usually diconnected?22:37
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: question when installing ubuntu server22:38
Psil0Cybinif im using it for a HTTP Server, php,mysql22:38
Psil0Cybinwould I encrypt my home directoryu?22:38
Psil0Cybinwould i still be able to display everything normally, just if the computer is off things cannot be accessed?22:38
krystianpo polsku ?22:38
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: no need. encrypting a home dir is only if you're storing personal stuff there and others can have access to the machine. that shouldn't be the case for a web server22:40
Psil0Cybinkk22:40
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Psil0Cybinokay hitsujiTMO22:40
Psil0Cybinsorry question for partition method22:40
Psil0Cybinif it is a hard drive raid, I would do Guided use entire disk and set up LVM22:40
Psil0Cybinor encrypted LVM?22:40
omg_scoutDaemonicApathy: Depends on your definition of feasible. For non technical users I would say "nope"22:41
Psil0Cybinugh hitsujiTMO having more problems22:42
Psil0Cybinthan I thought22:42
Psil0Cybinif I have a hard drive raided system22:42
Psil0Cybinwhy would It show up all my hard drives as seperate partitions22:43
Psil0Cybindoes that mean it was a software raid?22:43
DaemonicApathyWell, I figured I would assign a particular user's home dir to a flash drive, and remove the name from the login list. After that, it should only take a simple script to add/remove the name from the login list when the drive is mounted. I just didn't know if I was missing anything.22:43
smallfoot-Hello22:43
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: lvm is usually an unnecessary burden on a basic server. encrypt only if you absolutely need it. is this server at home or in a datacenter?22:43
Psil0Cybindata center22:43
Psil0Cybinfor work22:43
yeahitsmeDaemonicApathy: you could potentially store a /home directory on another hard drive and mount it whenever you need, but you would probably need some chroot magic to get settings and login and that kind of stuff to work22:43
Psil0Cybinbut it was 3 TB Drives all raided together22:43
smallfoot-How can I make the boot loader (GNU GRUB) find OS on computer and add it to list?22:43
Psil0Cybinbut it shows up as seperate partitions22:44
RedHatterHow can I start a process in a script with a parent of init? For example if I run `gedit &!` in a terminal top shows the parent to be zsh (my shell), how do I get it to show init as the parent like most other apps?22:44
Beldarsmallfoot-, sudo update-grub22:45
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: for lvm encrytion you need to have access at initramfs when booting to enter the encryption password (before ssh is up) so if you don't have that access then defo leave off the encryption22:45
Psil0Cybinkk ty22:45
Psil0Cybinbut do u perhaps have a guide for raiding a system for Ubuntu Server22:45
Psil0Cybini just bought this computer, they said they did a raid 5 with the 3 hard drives but they show up as seperate partitions22:46
Psil0Cybinthey said it would be easy to do with windows, and they never did it on linux22:46
DaemonicApathyyeahitsme: I was considering adding a user with a pre-made home dir, then removing the user when the session was done, but it would be easier to have it be persistent if possible.22:46
Psil0Cybinbut does that mean it was a software raid22:46
Psil0Cybinif it shows up as sepeate partitions hitsujiTMO ?22:46
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: no, is there a raid card on it?22:46
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: i have no idea, they took the 1 TB drives (3 of them) and told me that they would be raided as 1 Drive.22:47
Psil0Cybinbut i cannot figure out why it shows me three partitions.22:47
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Psil0Cybinit looks like my computer picks up the three diff hard drives22:47
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: if its seperate partitions then it sounds like no raid.22:47
Psil0Cybinas sepearate.22:47
Psil0Cybinwowowow, alright hitsujiTMO22:47
possum_JO0st:22:47
possum_JO0st: yes22:47
Psil0Cybincould they have done a software raid in the bios ? in which ubuntu does not recognize22:47
possum_JO0st: ip for my own pc22:47
Psil0Cybincould that be a posibility?22:48
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: or what would i do if i wanted to get all the three hard drives to be raided?22:48
Benderhey guys. Is there a way I can kill a certain process when I enter reboot into terminal? I know there are ways to make scripts execute on boot. Is there a way to accomplish this?22:48
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: soft raid is done in the os.22:48
Benderaside from writing a script that will do it in a roundabout way22:48
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: so I can soft raid the drives after I install the O.S?22:48
Psil0CybinOn any partition?22:48
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID22:48
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: also if ih ave physical access to the machine i would want to perhaps encrypt LVM? As Long as when I start up the server, I have access before SSHing?22:49
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: raid needs to be setup before the install22:49
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Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO:22:50
JO0stpossum_, for me it is possible to save the config as soon as i have entered the IP addres and subnet mask for my own pc.22:50
Psil0Cybinoh so I am in a good step22:50
JO0stalso don't forget to specify the mac address of the interface you want to use22:50
Psil0CybinI will follow the link you provided22:50
yeahitsmeDaemonicApathy: if you would really want to to do it, you could probably make a persistant user with a home directory pointed at nothing, and then have your hard drive mount at the home for that user22:50
Psil0Cybinand it should be raided correct??22:50
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:50
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: if this is in the company datacenter then there should be no need for encrypted lvm. The only scenario that that would be needed is if you expect to have unauthorised access to the server22:50
DaemonicApathyThanks, yeahitsme, I think that's the route I'll try first.22:50
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: oh okay22:51
Psil0Cybinperfect :)22:51
rabbitnightmarehey I am having an issue, how do I install the catalyst drivers?22:51
rabbitnightmareI need hdmi audio22:51
JO0strabbitnightmare, open sound settings and select the hdmi sound output22:51
rabbitnightmareJO0st: there is no HDMI out option22:52
rabbitnightmareI require the catalyst drivers22:52
rabbitnightmaresooo how do I get them22:52
Zolomonspearhead: Yeah, exactly22:52
possum_JO0st: oh weird... which distro?22:53
Zolomonspearhead: Sorry for the delay, important phonecall :/22:53
rabbitnightmareAMD Radeon HD 795022:53
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: having a problem with step five of the link you provided "5. On / partition select "bootable flag" and set it to "on"22:53
JO0stubuntu 13.1022:53
Psil0CybinI cannot find that one, setting. I see my partitions created in the table off the first hard drive22:53
Psil0Cybinbut it created 3 partitions instead of two22:53
Psil0Cybinext4, swap and EFIboot22:53
rabbitnightmareplease help22:53
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: the guide is old so it may not be the exact same. normally a boot flag is unneeded these days22:54
JO0stpossum, ubuntu 13.1022:54
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: yeah boot flag is completely unneeded in a uefi install22:54
Psil0Cybinpefect hitsujiTMO you are the man of the day!22:55
Psil0CybinI think i might get the raid set up, following steps22:55
rabbitnightmareso nobody out there in the land of Linux has an AMD card?22:55
rabbitnightmareat all22:55
rabbitnightmare???22:55
rabbitnightmareplease help22:55
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: now i am on the22:56
Psil0Cybinmenu that sates this is a software raid or MD multiple device config22:56
hitsujiTMOthe EFIboot is an EFI system partition that replaces MBR.22:56
Psil0Cybinplease select one of the actions to configure software Raid22:56
Psil0CybinCreate MD device , or Delete MD device22:56
Psil0Cybincould not find that part in the guide22:56
Psil0Cybini guess just create MD?22:56
possum_JO0st: ah, im on 12.04 maybe they realized and fixed it22:56
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: look at Configuring the RAID in the guide22:57
JO0stpossum_: you can try to fix it command line. sudo ifconfig interface ipaddress netmask22:57
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Configuring_the_RAID22:57
Psil0Cybinim looking there the part i am on is not there22:58
Psil0Cybini think the guide is outdated22:58
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-linux-beta-driver.aspx22:58
Psil0Cybinits asking me about mutlple devices?22:58
Psil0CybinOh22:58
possum_JO0st: thats not permanent22:58
Psil0Cybinshit22:58
Psil0Cybini am a moron!22:58
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:58
rabbitnightmarejhutchins: thanks ill try that22:58
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: create the md22:58
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: We don't appear to have a catalyst factoid.  Not sure how rare it is.  I would do some google searching about catalyst on ubuntu.22:58
rabbitnightmarejhutchins: I did and nothing but "its not working"22:59
IdleOnePsil0Cybin: Do you think the floodbot warnings you have received are just for fun? Stop hitting enter every 5 words.22:59
jhutchins!fglrx22:59
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:59
startoufHi all! I'm new on this IRC chat and to Ubuntu 13.10, I have a problem with the messaging menu : According to this page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu#API ... to see an application in my messaging menu, it should be "registered" but I don't have none of the folders inthere... What should I do to see my apps in messaging menu ? Thanks!22:59
IdleOnealso keep the language clean please22:59
rabbitnightmaretrying the beta22:59
rabbitnightmarethanks for the link22:59
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: shoot, it says to select which partitions to use in the create a RAID5 Array menu, but the configsing thing is23:00
Psil0Cybinit displays everytihng twice23:00
Psil0Cybin/dev/sda1 /dev/sda2/ etc23:00
Psil0Cybinthree times each23:00
Psil0Cybini select each of the<23:00
Psil0Cybinso i selected /dev/sda1 (all three times)23:01
antraxhi23:01
Psil0Cybinand same as all of them? except the free spaces, does that make sense? sorry hitsujiTMO23:01
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: are they all sda1 or are they sda1 sdb1 and sdc1?23:01
JO0stpossum_: try filling out 0.0.0.0 as the default gateway23:02
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: it litterely lists them like this in order is it okay if I paste bin it?23:02
Psil0Cybinjust because I have to type it out :) and do not want to make a mistake23:02
hitsujiTMOPsil0Cybin: pastebin away23:02
Psil0Cybinty one second23:02
Psil0Cybinty for helping me btw you are a L I F E saver.23:02
hitsujiTMOnp23:02
possum_ok JO0st23:02
startoufHi all! I'm new on this IRC chat and to Ubuntu 13.10, I have a problem with the messaging menu : According to this page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu#API ... to see an application in my messaging menu, it should be "registered" but I don't have none of the folders inthere... What should I do to see my apps in messaging menu ? Thanks!23:04
AndrewKI'm having an issue where my system will randomly freeze - things are still displayed, but input is halted, nothing is updated on screen23:04
AndrewKtrying to figure out why (tailed dmesg, syslog) with no culprit yet23:04
possum_JO0st: what does 0.0.0.0 denote?23:05
Psil0CybinhitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6711804/23:05