[00:02] <Beldar> to*
[00:02] <TJ-> PublicStaticVoid: There are different ways of triggering the same functionality
[00:03] <PublicStaticVoid> sudo apt-get install mate-core or update-manager -d  ?
[00:03] <PublicStaticVoid> Which one?
[00:03] <PublicStaticVoid> Oh okay
[00:03] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:03] <PublicStaticVoid> One person aid it wasnt even possible to do an upgrade.. so i was confused
[00:03] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, Some answers here are opinions, so you do have to separate the wheat from the chaff at times
[00:03] <michael__> What is happening?
[00:04] <psusi> michael__, netsplit... some irc servers got disconnected from the rest of the network
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: freenodes been under a lot of ddos attacks in the last few days, so lots of netsplits
[00:04] <michael__> I've never seen that
[00:04] <andresmh> I have Ubuntu running on an ARM device, a BeagleBone. I'm having trouble using a USB Wi-FI adapter. The adapter does show up as a usb device in lsusbm but it doesn't show as a network device by ifconfig. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[00:04] <spearhead> it happened 4 times in a row yesterday
[00:05] <Mcdonalds> Bonsoir tout le monde !!
[00:05] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: why would someone attack freenode?
[00:05] <psusi> andresmh, the device needs a driver, that either linux doens't have, or you don't have built and installed on your system
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: because they have too much time on their hands and nothing productive to do with it
[00:06] <jirido> lol Ok!
[00:06] <andresmh> psusi: thanks. how do I get started trying to figure out which driver i need?
[00:07] <psusi> andresmh, google for the name of the device and linux...
[00:08] <andresmh> I actually followed this instructions: http://dotnetdavid.wordpress.com/2013/09/14/beaglebone-black-set-up-wireless-on-ubuntu/ which involved getting new firmware kernel files from https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/rtlwifi
[00:08] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, you still here?
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: just about
[00:09] <andresmh> but it failed to get the wlan0 up when doing ' sudo ifconfig wlan0 up', psusi
[00:09] <michael__> andresmh: Is ethernet working on the device in question?
[00:09] <TJ-> andresmh: Does "iwconfig" report any wireless interfaces?
[00:09] <andresmh> michael__: yes
[00:10] <andresmh> TJ: no
[00:10] <Cheryl_c> how do I install java for my chrome web browser
[00:10] <dougl> 3.11.0-14-generic !!! hitsujiTMO is what I am grub defaulting to and I am editing 3.11.0-15-generic... can you help me correct my grub?
[00:10] <andresmh> TJ: this is what I get http://pastebin.com/swwhcZEZ
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: whats output of: uname -a
[00:11] <nevyn> andresmh: what does ifconfig -a report2/win /win 12
[00:11] <dougl> so when I edit my grub entry to 15 my plymou...Linux kubuntu 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux hitsujiTMO
[00:12] <dougl> my plymouth config works coerrectly... hitsujiTMO
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: pastebin: ls -l /boot
[00:13] <TJ-> andresmh: That output confirms you're missing the drivers... either they're available but not loaded, or not available at all and need acquiring or building
[00:14] <LordDeath> German site heise.de warns people from using Ubuntu as a server: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Distributionen-patchen-Drupal-ausser-Ubuntu-2075618.html
[00:14] <dougl> never do anything b... hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/sdvp5tqQ
[00:14] <TJ-> andresmh: Can you pastebin the output of "lsusb -v" ?
[00:14] <Cheryl_c> I just downloaded the java plugin for my chrome browser but don't know how to install it
[00:15] <k1l> LordDeath: file a bug :/
[00:15] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, always standard cli update then dist-upgrade
[00:15] <andresmh> TJ: here's the lsusb -v http://pastebin.com/rcq7VkUr
[00:15] <alexvr> http://sites.google.com/site/Javinstall might work
[00:15] <gordonjcp> LordDeath: actually, it's saying not to use unpatched versions of Drupal
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: have you modified any grub related files directly?
[00:16] <anew> in resolv.conf how do i add a dns server ?
[00:16] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, never always standard cli update then dist-upgrade
[00:16] <dougl> for those kernels
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg              then please run: sudo update-grub             and then pastebin again /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:17] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, will do...
[00:18] <possum_> hello i am trying to reach my machine which is behind a router from the open internet. i have the correct ip and i set port forwarding on the router. i run 'nc -l 55555' on my local pc and when i connect to it via 'nc 192.168.0.15 55555' it works from the lan. but when i try from a public ip to the ip of the router i get a timeout. could this be a firewall issue or something that comes by default
[00:18] <possum_> in ubuntu?
[00:18] <dougl> what is cli syntax for pastebin?
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: sudo apt-get install pastebinit      then     pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:19] <_CHOW> O
[00:19] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, thanks...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706373/
[00:20] <_CHOW> [08:19] <_CHOW> HI????
[00:20] <possum_> i forwarded public port 55555 to port 55555 on my machine's local ip
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: do you have another copy of linux installed?
[00:20] <dougl> 13.04
[00:21] <dougl> that works nice too
[00:21] <dougl> and I have 12.10 on my server
[00:21] <TJ-> possum_: Does your router also require a firewall allow rule for that port?
[00:21] <possum_> TJ-: no it is just a simple home router
[00:21] <possum_> TJ-: it has a web interface for port forwarding
[00:22] <jhutchins> possum_: Problem most likely with your forwarding.
[00:22] <dougl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706394/ hitsujiTMO
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: what do you get for: lsb_release -a
[00:22] <jhutchins> possum_: How are you testing the external connection?
[00:22] <possum_> jhutchins: i set the correct ports and ips, i triple, well quadruple checked
[00:22] <possum_> jhutchins: also with netcat
[00:22] <possum_> nc <public ip of the router> 55555
[00:23] <jhutchins> possum_: If you do that from within the lan you're not testing it.
[00:23] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, Ubuntu 13.10 details
[00:23] <TJ-> possum_: And you're 100% that the "nc" process is still running on the local PC? nc will usually exit after a connection has been dropped and needs to be re-started
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: can you pastebin the full lot please
[00:23] <possum_> jhutchins: i was just testing whether the nc syntax is correct, so we can rule that out because it works in the local lan. of course i am not testing the nat by that
[00:23] <dougl> No LSB modules are available.
[00:23] <possum_> TJ-: yes 100%, it works if i connect to it locally later
[00:24] <TJ-> possum_: You can't do loopback on the router; you'll need to connect from an outside IP
[00:24] <possum_> TJ-: thats why i said "from a public ip"
[00:24] <possum_> TJ-: to be more precise, it is not the same public ip as the router
[00:25] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/cZHGv5DZ
[00:25] <TJ-> possum_: OK ... so run "sudo tcpdump -vni eth0 tcp port 5555" on the local PC and see if it sees any connection attempts. If not, your router needs more configuration
[00:26]  * dougl is making too many mistakes appreciates the help
[00:26] <possum_> ok TJ-
[00:26] <TJ-> possum_: of course, correct my typo there "... tcp port 55555"
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: can you pastebin /etc/default/grub
[00:26] <possum_> sure
[00:26] <possum_> also wlan0
[00:27] <TJ-> possum_: You've got the drift :)
[00:27] <possum_> :)
[00:27] <michael__> My internet is slow, just saying
[00:27] <TJ-> andresmh: I've got the latest kernel source code here; I don't see any driver claiming the 148f:7601 device
[00:28] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706421/
[00:28] <andresmh> TJ-: hmm that's sad :(
[00:28] <R3K4CE> I have xubuntu installed on a laptop and I can't connect to the internet. When I hover over the internet icon i get no network devices available. Is there a fix for this?
[00:28] <michael__> Is there a way I can make a hard disk image using mkisofs?
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: ahh so you have changed /etc/default/grub :P
[00:29] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, LOL consider my hand slapped... what should I do :)
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: in /etc/default/grub set GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: then rerun: sudo update grub             and then reboot to test
[00:31]  * dougl recalls messing with grub now that hitsujiTMO catches him lol
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[00:32] <michael__> Is there a way I can make a hard disk image using mkisofs?
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: you dont have GRUB_DISTRIBUTION set so in your grub.cfg it has GNU/Linux so thats how i spotted that you modified that file
[00:33] <Beldar> michael__, You might try ##linux as well.
[00:33] <michael__> Ok
[00:34] <Beldar> pretty geeky there
[00:34] <dougl> that is why I love this channel hitsujiTMO ... you guys are great!
[00:34] <michael__> dougl: I find the graphical tool grub-customizer useful for not messing up my system
[00:35] <TJ-> andresmh: I've found an out-of-tree source-code package that includes a driver that claims that device; I'm not sure if you'll be able to build and install it though
[00:37] <dougl> michael__, point and click is not my favorite... prolly cuz I cant find anything
[00:37] <TJ-> andresmh: Here you go: https://github.com/hitmoon/mt7601u
[00:38] <michael__> Beldar: That channel won't let me speak, and the link to register nicks gives a 404
[00:38] <Beldar> !register | michael__
[00:38] <andresmh> TJ-: that's awesome! thanks. once i build the binaries, where do they go?
[00:39] <michael__> Beldar: My nick is registered
[00:39] <andresmh> do i copy them in some special driver directory?
[00:39] <andresmh> or does the makefile do that automatically?
[00:39] <michael__> The ##linux channel wants an additional registration at http://linuxassist.net/irc, which gives a 404 (Not found)
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: then log in
[00:39] <Beldar> michael__, Hmm, not sure I just got on ##linux I'm registered as well.
[00:39] <k1l> michael__: login into your freenode account. for questions ask in #freenode
[00:39] <TJ-> andresmh: You'll need to install git "sudo apt-get install git" and then do "git clone https://github.com/hitmoon/mt7601u.git" and then "cd mt7601u" and then read the instructions carefully in "README_STA_usb"
[00:40] <michael__> I am logged int freenode
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: you ar not logged in as a registered user right now
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: then log in
[00:40] <michael__> I am
[00:40] <k1l> michael__: you are not
[00:40] <michael__> Um, yes I am
[00:40] <michael__> I did /msg NickServ identify ******* to use the nick michael__
[00:40] <k1l> michael__: no you are not. please ask in #freenode for more support on that freenode issue
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: you're not. we can /whois you. it states if you're loggin in and you're not
[00:41] <TJ-> andresmh: You'll need to ensure you have also done "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[00:41] <michael__> I've registered in the past
[00:41] <michael__> And have to enter my password in order to use my nick
[00:41] <Beldar> michael__, YOu have to login each tim you come on the irc, I have my irc client do it automatically.
[00:41] <michael__> How am I not logged in?
[00:41] <michael__> Beldar: I do
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: maybe you registration has expired. it expires if you don't log in for 6 weeks
[00:42] <michael__> hitsujiTMO: I log in almost every day, as with a few minutes ago
[00:42] <k1l> michael__: please ask in #freenode they can explain that to you
[00:42] <xangua> hitsujiTMO: it does¿
[00:43] <xangua> ooh 6 weeks, read 6 days
[00:43] <TJ-> andresmh: I warn you now, those instructions are messy, complicated, and totally *not* the Linux way of doing things!
[00:43] <rww> hitsujiTMO: erm, no it doesn't
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> xangua: oooh 10 weeks now sorry, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userexpirations
[00:44] <rww> 1) it's never been less than 10 weeks, 2) that's on request manually, not automatically
[00:44] <andresmh> TJ-: grr :(
[00:44] <rww> anyways
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> rww might be confising with another network on those specifics
[00:45] <michael__> From freenode.net: "We consider IRC nicks expired after they have not been used for 10 weeks plus (at staffer discretion) one additional week per full year of registration, up to a maximum of five additional weeks. Nicks which are at least two weeks old and which were last used less than two hours after their creation are also considered to be expired."
[00:45] <k1l> michael__: please put that issue into #freenode channel.
[00:45] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, was that supposed to boot the latest kernel version?
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: is it still 14?
[00:46] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Heh, nothing like a pile on as if your mention made you jack the ripper eh.
[00:46] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, yes
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: :)
[00:46] <dougl> uname -r
[00:46] <dougl> 3.11.0-14-generic
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg again
[00:48] <dougl> hitsujiTMO,
[00:48] <dougl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706494/
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> dous:
[00:53] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, 3.11.0-14-generic is what is booting even after I changed it in settings
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: when you boot, is it the grub for kubuntu 13.04 that gets loaded?
[00:54] <denysonique>  I want to make a deb package of ready binaries of na open source project. Should I fetch the bins manually before running debuild or should I do the fetching in debian/rules?
[00:55] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, err - probably, right ?
[00:55] <TJ-> denysonique: If the binaries are open-source then the package (or one of its dependencies) should build them
[00:56] <denysonique> TJ-: I don't have makefiles for it
[00:56] <denysonique> actually, for hosting it on a PPA it must be built from source on the server, since no binaries are allowed, is this correct?
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: that may beed to be updated independently. boot kubuntu 13.04. from there run: sudo update-grub             then restart
[00:56] <TJ-> denysonique: Then the way to handle it is to include a script in the source package that gets installed and run (postinst script probably) to fetch the files when the user installs your package
[00:57] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, gotcha thanks brb
[00:57] <TJ-> denysonique: See for example the flashplugin-installer
[00:58] <denysonique> TJ-: why cannot the fetching be done in the source package and the bins as the result distributed in the binary package?
[00:59] <michael__> How do I install libguestfs in Ubuntu 13.04?  The website only has instructions for 12.04, and even those are unclear
[01:00] <james__> Hello I have a quick question. In the terminal when i type su I put in my password and it says authentication failure, but I am the owner and only user of this computer. How can I fix this?
[01:00] <rww> !sudo
[01:02] <james__> ubottu, I know it's for root, I want to run as root.
[01:03] <k1l> james__: please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo and see that there is no root account enabled
[01:03] <TJ-> denysonique: It's a policy issue; Binaries are opaque. What happens if the user requests the source-code as they are entitled to but the original source doesn't provide it, or the original source disappears?
[01:04] <TJ-> denysonique: Check the copyright license; if it is (L)GPL then you have an obligation to provide the source-code
[01:04] <denysonique> TJ-: anyway, I am going to try to write debian/rules for it to build from source
[01:08] <TJ-> denysonique: If you plan in including binaries you can't use PPA; see the licensing at https://help.launchpad.net/Legal/ProjectLicensing
[01:08] <yusuf> .,l
[01:09] <james__> i am trying to make a new folder in / and when i right click new folder is grayed out. how can i make a new one? do I have to do it in the terminal
[01:10] <gordonjcp> james__: you probably don't have permission to write to /
[01:10] <gordonjcp> james__: why do you want to make a new directory there?
[01:10] <civpro2> hello, i just installed ubuntu and i need to get my video cards working
[01:11] <civpro2> i have 2 r9 290x's
[01:11] <civpro2> could someone let me know the command to do this please?
[01:13] <civpro2> hawaii is what gets picked up
[01:14] <civpro2> anyone here?
[01:20] <hipitihop> I'm on 12.04.3 and would like to manually upgrade to latest alsa, i.e. > 1.0.25 or equivalent to what is in 13.10, anyone have  a link or prepared to step me through ?
[01:20] <Beldar> hipitihop, I would wait for 14.04 in april or just go up one by ine to 13.10 or fresh install.
[01:22] <hipitihop> Beldar, "up by ine ..." ?
[01:22] <Beldar> hipitihop, If that alsa is imperative check ppa's and be aware not that support here for ppa's in general. read carefully the word syntax we do make errors one by one.
[01:25] <Beldar> I try to make correct sentences and spell everything right, however this is not my grad work so uh you know.
[01:25] <darshan> Oh
[01:25] <darshan> hi
[01:26] <asd> hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor
[01:26] <hipitihop> Beldar, this is a continuation from a marathon yesterday with glint* here who helped me discount my issue being a kernel one, i.e. I'm now on "3.11.0-15-generic #23~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 10 16:39:48 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" and problem with usb attached headset persists. which PPA are you proposing
[01:27] <asd> btw im in recovery mod and it works fine (exept resolution is lower and i cant set it up higher)
[01:27] <Beldar> hipitihop, No idea, that is your job to research, technically ppa's are not supported here.
[01:28] <asd> hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor
[01:29] <asd> what should i do???
[01:30] <hipitihop> Beldar, do you suggest I just upgrade to 13.10 from 12.04.3 ?
[01:30] <unamed> hi, hipitihop why haven you wait for 14.04
[01:31] <Beldar> hipitihop, I don't know your issues, so without I would suggest a dual boot to see if 13.10 fixes the issues.
[01:31] <asd>  hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor, so what should i do??????
[01:32] <hipitihop> unamed, That would mean waiting till April to use a new Sennheiser USB heaset :-(
[01:32] <Beldar> hipitihop, I'm biased here however I never upgrade the releases I can install and have the same in about 1/4 the time even with a fairly fast internet speed.
[01:33] <Blackshear> Im tryin to setup a linksys usb wireless adapter, the cd will not autorun, the manual suggests using windows run, what in ubuntu is similar to "run"?
[01:34] <hipitihop> Beldar, sure, I understand, but this is a dev machine for day to day work, which is normally why I err on the side of caution and use the LTS versions, but I also do not want to start from scratch on a dual boot or a vm
[01:34] <Beldar> Blackshear, YOu sure you need to run the cd, does it not work?
[01:34] <Blackshear> well the instructions say to install the  cd first
[01:35] <Blackshear> then plug the usb adapter in when prompted
[01:35] <kerneld> whats the infobot called?
[01:35] <unamed> blackshear with the new version of ubuntu the usb mode-switch is included by default if your driver is recognized no need to install your cd
[01:35] <Beldar> hipitihop, Sure, however you do not know if 13.10 is the answer, and a upgarde to it will take awhile and could beak, so you have to think you way through this IE what is most prudent and easiest to consider.
[01:35] <unamed> got to your network configuration applet to see if your system detect your mobile brand provider network
[01:36] <Blackshear> ok
[01:36] <hipitihop> Beldar, btw, yesterdays machinations indeed confirmed with a live cd of 13.10 that it resolved my issues, we thought since alsa does a majority in kernel, we tried thatt route, with insuing nvidia issues, but alas did not solve the headset issue.
[01:36] <mrrcp> Blackshear you should not need CD
[01:36] <mrrcp> it wont work either way
[01:36] <Blackshear> t wont?
[01:36] <Blackshear> why
[01:36] <mrrcp> Well.. It will not auto run
[01:36] <unamed> no need it should work
[01:36] <Blackshear> ok
[01:36] <unamed> insert your usb  and wait
[01:37] <kerneld> !win2-7
[01:37] <asd>  hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor
[01:38] <Beldar> hipitihop, Live cd's are kinda a anomaly there are drivers there that get things working when some find not there on install that one has to look for. If you are using a working live 13,10 as your base see if a working live 12.04.3 does the same. In other words a somewhat scientific inquiry approach.
[01:39] <Beldar> asd, Fresh install and has it ever worked?
[01:40] <unamed> Beldar ?? you may ask if he checked the integrity of the iso???
[01:40] <knightshade> hi
[01:40] <Beldar> unamed, Dude I have over 12,000 post on the ubuntu forums and 1000's here and about 8 years of linux use thanks
[01:41] <hipitihop> Beldar,  well pity one can't rely on livecd being definitive, I thought that was somewhat the point, anyway worth a shot finding a 12.04 livecd I guess
[01:41] <Beldar> unamed, In other words talk to the user not me.
[01:42] <unamed> @beldar,  we are for open knowledge don't forget, i am just helping
[01:44] <Beldar> unamed, Right but addressing me like that is offensive to me, if we were into a investigation further and I had missed that I would say thnks for the help. We all do this in different ways, so don;t be so quick to direct another helper is all.
[01:45] <Beldar> unamed, As well we don't use @ here we can tab complete nicks, nevertheless thanks for being here to help.
[01:45] <hipitihop> is there a way to tell what version a livecd is by inspecting the usb drive it is on other then booting from it ?
[01:46] <Beldar> hipitihop, I have a multiloader it has the iso and files there open it and look
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys is there any special method for installing Ubuntu Server on a raid 5 system with 3 hard drives?
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> slash is there a specific guide dfor getting ubuntu on a raid system
[01:48] <knightshade> hipitihop: mount it and open the file /etc/issue on the drive
[01:48] <rww> Psil0Cybin: hardware raid or software raid
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> Hardware
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> 3 hard drives
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> i want to set up ubuntu server
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> to use all hard drives
[01:49] <rww> Psil0Cybin: raid card supported by Linux?
[01:49] <rww> if it's hardware raid, Ubuntu just sees one hard drive...
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> oh sdoes it
[01:49] <rww> and you do the configuration in your raid controller
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> okay perfect the guys at the store made it seem complicated
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> they said with windows it would recognize it but with linux
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> id have to configure it lol
[01:49] <knightshade> !raid | Psil0Cybin
[01:49] <Beldar> hipitihop, I think most here try to as definitive as possible, however these processes generally have so many variables it can be difficult to do that.
[01:50] <Ca11um> I have just added a user to a group that has ownership/permission to a specific directory, but after adding the user, they do not. How can I give the new user the same access?
[01:50] <rww> Ca11um: did the user log out and back in?
[01:50] <rww> oh
[01:50] <Psil0Cybin> Alright thank you
[01:50] <Ca11um> rww, no, is that required?
[01:50] <Psil0Cybin> but if it shows up as just one hard drive, I should bei nthe clear?
[01:50] <rww> Ca11um: yes, group changes take effect in new login sessions only
[01:50] <Ca11um> rww: Thank you
[01:51] <Blackshear> how would i do the system ubdate that they reccommend during installation
[01:51] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: It depends on whether it is true hardware RAID, or what is called 'Fake' RAID. With fakeraid - dmraid is the driver - the underlying physical disks will show up as /dev/sdX nodes and the RAID array(s) will show up as device mapper entries under /dev/mapper/
[01:52] <Beldar> Blackshear, There is a box to tick in the install gui's
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> I will check in a few minutes
[01:52] <Beldar> 3rd party and upgrades
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> if its a hard ware raid, It should work? If i pop in the ubuntu disk?
[01:52] <knightshade> the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid should be added to the bot info
[01:53] <Y2KVet> What are the alternatives to rsync for backup?  Easy, simple, elegant count.
[01:53] <chaotix> heyy
[01:54] <Beldar> !backup
[01:54] <Beldar> Y2KVet, ^^^^^^^^^^
[01:54] <BlueProtoman> How can I use my Bluetooth gamepad as a controller on Ubuntu?
[01:54] <hipitihop> knightshade, thanks, but struggling to find /etc/issue maybe its because I tend to use unetbootin to produce the bootable usb stick
[01:54] <Y2KVet> Thanks!
[01:55] <Blackshear> bledar, i alreadt installed, but i didnt update during the installation
[01:55] <amy_> Hello, how can I get a Radeon HD 7520G card working in 13.10?
[01:55] <amy_> Its on a laptop.
[01:56] <Beldar> Blackshear, You can tab complete nicks, so that they are spelled correctly and they show up as red like this one does to you and notifies the user you answered them.
[01:56] <knightshade> hipitihop: just plug the usb drive in, open nautilus, click the usb drive, direct to the etc folder, click the issue file
[01:56] <Psil0Cybin> knightshade: thank you guysa
[01:56] <Psil0Cybin> I am going to tread the raid guides, and check it out and see hot it works.
[01:56] <Psil0Cybin> how it works*
[01:56] <knightshade> Psil0Cybin: you're welcome
[01:57] <Blackshear> Beldar, it doesnt show up red, so how would i do the system update
[01:58] <civpro2> i see a white x and a black screen after installing drivers for a r9 290x
[01:58] <civpro2> any advice?
[01:58] <mrrcp> Blackshear launch terminal
[01:58] <hipitihop> knightshade, thanks I know how to browse the drive, lets be clear, this is a bootable livecd on a usb stick we are talking about, I have dirs like boot, casper
[01:58] <mrrcp> sudo apt-get update
[01:58] <Beldar> Blackshear, Ah I Guess green at least here, but you get it. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal is a apt update
[01:58] <mrrcp> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:58] <Blackshear> nope everything is gray lol Beldar
[01:58] <civpro2> i am having a heck of a time with his video card
[01:59] <Beldar> Blackshear, Ah, if you use a cli irc that is the case, the point is for ease of travel you want the other to know you are answering the. Sometimes the posts fly in here is all.
[01:59] <civpro2> any help would be greatly appreciated
[01:59] <Beldar> them*
[01:59] <Blackshear> Beldar, yea no problem, thanks for the tip.
[02:00] <varunendra> Blackshear, what is the problem by the way that you expect to fix by updating?
[02:00] <knightshade> hipitihop: yeah, then it doesn't work
[02:00] <Beldar> civpro2, To the channel the exact details of what you have done and any relevant errors really help.
[02:00] <BlueProtoman> Is there any software for Linux that will let me map joystick buttons to keyboard keys?
[02:00] <Blackshear> no problem, i just want this thing installed correctly
[02:00] <Blackshear> varunendra,
[02:01] <TJ-> hipitihop: The file(s) you're looking for are inside the squashfs image, not in the ISO file-system
[02:01] <knightshade> hipitihop: do you have a dists folder on the drive?
[02:01] <hipitihop> knightshade, yes, just found that, that seems to give a hint :-)
[02:01] <civpro2> went to amd and picked out my video card
[02:01] <civpro2> downloaded the run file
[02:01] <civpro2> extracted it, and ran it
[02:01] <civpro2> i also tried flxgr-update
[02:01] <civpro2> or something like that
[02:01] <varunendra> Blackshear, once Ubuntu is installed and connected to internet, it will automatically detect recommended updates and will prompt you to install them. You just have to accept the installation (and the download of course).
[02:02] <knightshade> hipitihop: there should be a file dists/<release_name>/Release
[02:02] <Beldar> civpro2, Proprietary drivers are the last resort here and technically not supported is all.
[02:02] <civpro2> and i got an error saying monitors not supported
[02:02] <Blackshear> varunendra, ok then thats all i needed to know, thanks.
[02:02] <civpro2> beldar, if i get it reinstall i will
[02:02] <varunendra> Welcome :)
[02:02] <civpro2> whatever is the best way
[02:02] <civpro2> i would rather not though
[02:02] <hipitihop> knightshade, indeed, got it now, many thanks
[02:02] <civpro2> if possible
[02:02] <civpro2> which drivers are proprietary?
[02:03] <civpro2> the amd r9 290x?
[02:03] <knightshade> hipitihop: you're welcome
[02:03] <civpro2> beldar, how can i get this running without proprietary drivers please
[02:03] <Beldar> civpro2, Be careful not to use the enter key as punctuation and give relevant details is all, it is easy to get lost in the channel, especially if you have unusual or not real common hardware.
[02:04] <hipitihop> TJ-, thanks, no sign of squashfs but have found the version in /dists see discuss with knightshade
[02:04] <Beldar> civpro2, If I knew I would have suggested drivers. ;)
[02:04] <civpro2> Beldar, ok, what are the next steps
[02:05] <varunendra> civpro2, for AMD graphics, the "radeon" driver is open source, the rest (fglrx and others if there are any) are proprietary. There is no definitive list of 'proprietary drivers'.
[02:05] <Blackshear> do you guys reccommend getting clam-av, or is ubuntu fine without it
[02:05] <Beldar> civpro2, No idea, recognize that all I have said to you is info on getting help, and the norms of using proprietary drivers here, I have not indicated I can actually help with your issue.
[02:05] <unamed> i say no need Blackshear
[02:06] <Blackshear> i will probably be accessing some sketchy websites, that may try to install spyware and malware
[02:06]  * hipitihop reboots to 12.04 livecd to see if headset issue resolved as in 13.10 livecd
[02:06] <varunendra> Blackshear, Ubuntu itself is fine without it. It is meant to protect the Windows users from the viruses that may carry with files copied from Ubuntu.
[02:06] <unamed> Blackshear, haviing it may not kill you
[02:06] <civpro2> varunendra, i did try the run file first from amd, then i used other methods afterwards.  since on reboot it stated that the monitor was no supported in that resolution i read an article to delete the .config/monitors.xml file
[02:06] <Beldar> Blackshear, Not much of a danger in linux, but always use caution.
[02:06] <civpro2> i tried this but it did not work either, i believe it might be with the tv i am using.  i am using hdmi
[02:07] <varunendra> civpro2, I have no experience with graphics drivers, just provided the basic info I knew. But hang on, maybe someone more knowledgeable would be able to help..
[02:07] <civpro2> i am hearing alot of i shouldnt do this or that but not 1 suggestion yet on what i should do
[02:08] <civpro2> ok i will hang on, thanks
[02:08] <Beldar> Blackshear, Never run in root and strong passwords are a good start.
[02:08] <unamed> you know the name of your graphic cards civpro2
[02:08] <civpro2> unamed, yes r9 290x also known as hawaii
[02:09] <civpro2> unamed, also i have 2 video cards of the same type, i didnt want to leave that out
[02:10] <varunendra> civpro2, you can list your graphics card and driver by these commands : "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga" (for short info) and "sudo lshw -numeric -C display" (for detailed info)
[02:10] <Beldar> civpro2, THe only reason I said anything to you was I noticed a lack of any real pertinent details needed to get help here. This is to get you orientated to actually get help.
[02:10] <varunendra> ..and always use pastebin for posting multiline outputs :) civpro2
[02:12] <civpro2> Beldar, i understand, i did not take any offense to what you said
[02:12] <Beldar> ;)
[02:12] <civpro2> varunendra, that command is not working
[02:12] <varunendra> please show us the exact command you used civpro2
[02:13] <civpro2> lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga
[02:13] <civpro2> varunendra, in response i get no such file or directory.... i did have to do alt-shit-f1 in order to get to command prompt
[02:14] <unamed> i send your a link civpro2
[02:14] <civpro2> thanks
[02:15] <varunendra> civpro2, the command looks fine to me. It is just the "lspci" command with some options, then grep is filtering the output, that's all. Can you just use "lspci" command ?
[02:18] <civpro2> unamed - varunendra, when i type in fglrxinfo i get unable to open display (null)
[02:19] <js111444> hello, I am using ubuntu 13.10, and want to disable a notification. A popup window appears when the pc is set to suspend automatically after X minutes  unused.  before it goed into suspended mode a window appears and remains there, even if the system starts back up...
[02:19] <js111444> it is listed as a minor bug, but no solution so far, anyone got an idea?
[02:20] <civpro2> it looks like i might of hosed this one
[02:20] <civpro2> going to reinstall
[02:21] <varunendra> js111444, no idea here, but maybe give us the link to the bug report to help us understand ?
[02:22] <varunendra> civpro2, not a bad idea if the installation is fresh and time is priority :)
[02:27] <js111444> i gues this is the link to the correct bug rapport...https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1232454
[02:42] <BAMbanda> what does "i686" mean?
[02:42] <BAMbanda> I want to understand if I'm on 32-bit or 64-bit
[02:42] <dougl> how do I install grub in 13.10? I installed 13.10 along side 13.04 and 13.10 grub install fails so I used 13.04 grub to boot 13.10 now I need to update grub and I cannot get into 13.04?
[02:44] <somsip> BAMbanda: maybe this will help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I686 but this is a 64bit CPU
[02:45] <MyComputerIsGone> Um Hello, if anyone is out there
[02:45] <somsip> !anyone } MyComputerIsGone
[02:45] <somsip> !anyone | MyComputerIsGone
[02:45] <MyComputerIsGone> uh sure
[02:45] <munz> BAMbanda: uname -a
[02:46] <BAMbanda> munz, the output of that is: Linux x 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:36:13 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[02:46] <munz> x86_64 would be 64biy
[02:46] <munz> ahh ur 32
[02:46] <BAMbanda> so does that mean that I should download Linux x*6 version of Java
[02:47] <munz> yes
[02:47] <BAMbanda> ok thanks
[02:47] <munz> np
[02:47] <MyComputerIsGone> Does anyone know how to back up and fresh reinstall a 13.10 Ubuntu that I just dun goofed on with something like sudo apt-get purge wine*? The main problem (which otherwise this might be easy with) is that all resemblence of a gui has disappeared and all I can do is control alt f1 for the terminal...
[02:47] <munz> BAMbanda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:48] <Bashing-om> dougl: Whichever install is to be primary, from that primary "install grub" to the MBR and make sure os-prober is executable, ->update-grub should pick up the other install(s).
[02:48] <munz> or http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html
[02:48] <x_> MyComputerIsGone, so reinstall ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <x_> or something
[02:48] <MyComputerIsGone> yeah, I have tried.
[02:48] <MyComputerIsGone> It gives an error related to libreoffice-common
[02:49] <dougl> Bashing-om, sudo grub-install /dev/sda?
[02:49] <BAMbanda> munz, thank you
[02:49] <dougl> Bashing-om, source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory
[02:49] <munz> no prob
[02:49] <MyComputerIsGone> or rather something like "the following packages have unmet dependencies": libreoffice things
[02:50] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, sudo apt-get install -f
[02:51] <DF3D2> err
[02:51] <DF3D2> hold on it's been a long time
[02:51] <MyComputerIsGone> no, that is what they suggested
[02:51] <MyComputerIsGone> and I did do that
[02:51] <DF3D2> hm
[02:51] <Beautiful^Girl> yeah its quite annoying, a wildcard purge will remove all the dependencies as well, maybe the ubuntu team could fix this
[02:51] <MyComputerIsGone> but it's like: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:52] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, might be easiest to just reinstall
[02:52] <DF3D2> gotta watch those wildcards
[02:52] <MyComputerIsGone> yes, that is what I'm trying to do =D
[02:52] <DF3D2> trying?
[02:52] <MyComputerIsGone> but
[02:52] <Bashing-om> dougl: sudo grub-install /dev/sda, yes; IF that primary install is on the sda drive. ... sounds like you are working from the liveDVD environment, yes ?
[02:52] <MyComputerIsGone> All I need to do is figure out how I can back up my files
[02:52] <MyComputerIsGone> if possible
[02:52] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, is /home on a seperate partition ?
[02:52] <somsip> MyComputerIsGone: you could go back through /var/log/apt/history.log and reinstall the packages removed in error, but it might be a tedious and fruitless attempt
[02:53] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I don't believe so
[02:53] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, well do you have some srt of usb flash drive?
[02:54] <dougl> Bashing-om, no I am in 13.10 on sda2 my first install is 13.04 on sdb1 that will not boot and I can loginto but dont know root pw
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes, I do.
[02:54] <DF3D2> well copy stuff to that
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> I have no idea how to do that with only a terminal, sorry
[02:54] <DF3D2> okay go plug it in
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> yup
[02:54] <DF3D2> ill talk you through it
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> cool
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> thanks
[02:55] <dougl> Bashing-om, so it does actually boot but no desktop env or suid and I dont know root's pass
[02:55] <Beldar> dougl, Which release is at the top of the grub menu when you see it?
[02:55] <q0> why can't linux read UFS pendrives ?
[02:55] <Guest5041> How do I import settings from a .img file back up on an old Ubuntu install to a new install on a different machine?
[02:55] <dougl> 13.04
[02:55] <dougl> bel3atar,
[02:55] <dougl> Beldar,  13.04
[02:56] <Bashing-om> dougl: OK.. no sweat, what do you want for your primary operating system ? only one has control of what is to boot .
[02:56] <Daemoen> lo all.
[02:56] <Beldar> dougl, So 13.04 has the grub control running a grub-update in 13.10 will not do any good, what os the actual issue I logged in after you stated it?
[02:56] <dougl> 13.10
[02:56] <dougl> Beldar,
[02:56] <Beldar> is*
[02:56] <Daemoen> what is the best way of automating the partitioning part of debian installer
[02:56] <Daemoen> i really dont like having to do 18 partitions manually :|
[02:56] <MyComputerIsGone> Er DF3D2 whenever you're ready, I guess..
[02:56] <Daemoen>  especially on 25 machines
[02:56] <Beldar> Daemoen, Debian has a channel.
[02:57] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay type "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:57] <Daemoen> Beldar: wow?!  really?!  omfg thats amazing...
[02:57] <Beldar> !attitude | Daekdroom
[02:57] <q0> why can't linux read UFS pendrive with an image written in a unix system ? What is this compatibility problem "on purpose" ???
[02:57] <Bashing-om> dougl: By default root is locked in 'buntu, rarely is it ever ever required to enable that access. This is not one of those times and the means to do so is not discussed in open channels.
[02:57] <Beldar> !attitude | Daemoen do not swear here.
[02:57] <Daemoen> Beldar: last i checked, ubuntu is based on debian, it also has a server version, i would expect (even the volunteers) to be aware of the tools
[02:57] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok, I see some information...reporting data and stuff
[02:58] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so how big is the flash drive?
[02:58] <Beldar> Daekdroom: Sorry wrong nick.
[02:58] <Daemoen> Beldar: i understand that, but telling someone to go to the debian channel when the question is related to ubuntu automation every bit as much as debian, sending me to debian seems like a pretty lazy response, unless there simply isnt the familiarity with the automation aspect of the ubuntu installer in here
[02:58] <MyComputerIsGone> I think it's 2 GB
[02:58] <MyComputerIsGone> but I believe it can hold the things I need it to...
[02:58] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, find the info that pretains to that device, like 2000gb drive /dev/sdb or some such
[02:58] <KI7MT> Daemoen, using preseed is an option you may be interested in.
[02:59] <dougl> nice
[02:59] <Daemoen> KI7MT: been working on that, the partitioning aspect of preseed seems.... convoluted and sloppy at best
[02:59] <Daemoen> was hoping that there *might* be something better for it somewhere
[02:59] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, such as this:
 dougl: OK.. no sweat, what do you want for your primary operating system ? only one has control of what i
[02:59] <possum_> hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan 192.168.0.1/24. x is also connected to wlan1 192.168.111.1/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 192.168.222.1/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z
[02:59] <DF3D2> err wtf?
[02:59] <possum_> effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x
[02:59] <Bashing-om> dougl: What are you wanting to boot up as the primary controlling system ?
[02:59] <possum_> to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. wtf is going on!!????
[02:59] <DF3D2> Bashing-om, desregard rogue paste
[02:59] <KI7MT> Daemoen, I think, if I recall, the one stipulation is that the sctipt has to use the whole disk.
[02:59] <DF3D2> disregard*
[03:00] <somsip> !wtf | possum_ DF3D2
[03:00] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok, I believe it says /dev/sdb1 * "start":32 end: "4081663" Blocks "2040816" ID: 6 System FAT16.
[03:00] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, such as Disk /dev/sda: 180.0 GB, 180045766656 bytes
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys trying to install ubuntu server from USBusing the startup disk creator but it keeps sayinhg its trying to moiunt a cd rom instead of booting frmo USB?
[03:00] <possum_> ok
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> is there an ISO made for USB Installs?
[03:00] <Beldar> DF3D2, The channle rules are no swearing or acronyms of please
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> that would not ask to mount a CD ROM
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> I am confused
[03:00] <possum_> PLEASE HELP
[03:00] <MyComputerIsGone> oh ok
[03:00] <MyComputerIsGone> Uh
[03:00] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay type "mkdir /media/usb1"
[03:01] <possum_> this is a LINUX MYSTERY
[03:01] <Daemoen> KI7MT: coming at this from a RH/C background, the ubuntu installer is downright infuriating; ubuntu has done a lot to bring linux awareness, but im amazed that the installer is still so lacking in usability
[03:01] <SchrodingersScat> possum_: linux moosetery
[03:01] <MyComputerIsGone> had to sudo that one, if that's ok, but done.
[03:01] <dougl> Beldar, the actual issue is sudo grub-install /dev/sda does not work<- is that what you were asking?
[03:01] <Daemoen> dont get me wrong, it is what it is, i can understand that, im just trying to find a way of making it work better =D
[03:01] <possum_> SchrodingersScat: DAMN U MYSTERY CAT
[03:01] <KI7MT> Daemoen, Landscape is really the enterprise solution, but not everyone wants to shell out for it.
[03:01] <Bashing-om> DF3D2: sorry bout that.. recon I failed to "look" at what I was adressing; haste makes waste !
[03:02] <somsip> possum_: you have a in-depth network query. All you're doing by adding worthless comments is scrolling it off the screen. Maybe prepare a pastebin with full details and post a link to that every 15 mins or so
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys trying to install ubuntu server from USBusing the startup disk creator but it keeps sayinhg its trying to moiunt a cd rom instead of booting frmo USB?
[03:02] <Beldar> dougl, You have to chroot to the install from a live cd to do that, no sudo there you are rooted.
[03:02] <Daemoen> KI7MT: yeah,  were a startup, half the time i cant even get clearance on switches, no way im going to get the go ahead on landscape... but i did just come up with an idea =D
[03:02] <somsip> !patience | Psil0Cybin
[03:02] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone,  "sudo chown yourusername:group /media/usb1" such as if your user is "joe" and group is "joe" then type sudo chown joe:joe /media/usb1
[03:02] <Daemoen> i can make at least 14 of the partitions using ansible and automation, i really only need to worry about the first disk in each system
[03:02] <possum_> thanks somsip
[03:02] <possum_> somsip: yeah its a mystery, but people dont like to click pastebins so i gave a precise summary
[03:03] <possum_> i even put some effort in to be concise
[03:03] <MyComputerIsGone> Complete, DF3D2
[03:03] <possum_> here it is again and then i will shut up
[03:03] <somsip> possum_: I do see people helping with those sorts of queries, but maybe easier if you have some concise text somewhere you can link to as it's a big post
[03:03] <possum_> hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan 192.168.0.1/24. x is also connected to wlan1 192.168.111.1/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 192.168.222.1/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z
[03:03] <possum_> effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x
[03:03] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay now where are the files you would like to copy located ?
[03:03] <possum_> to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. WHAT is going on!!????
[03:03] <MyComputerIsGone> they're all in home, I think
[03:04] <MyComputerIsGone> or at least in my user file
[03:04] <DF3D2> okay so then "cd /home/username"
[03:04] <DF3D2> or cd "~/"
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I have no CD DRIVE! I am trying to install ubuntu through USB the Server keeps asking for aCD
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> What do I Do?
[03:04] <MyComputerIsGone> Yup.
[03:04] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, now type "ls -al"
[03:05] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok
[03:05] <DF3D2> are the files you want in there ?
[03:05] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: stop spamming for a start. Have some patience. You can see it's busy here
[03:05] <varunendra> possum_, time to grasp things and respond back is short on IRC, especially when the channel is busy. Maybe try Ubuntu Forums (ubuntuforums.org)
[03:05] <possum_> :((((
[03:05] <dougl> Beldar, so boot live cd and "chroot /dev/sda2" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" I know the sudo pass for 13.10?
[03:05] <possum_> please help here
[03:05] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes, I believe so
[03:05] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, well, you can see the files with "ls -al"
[03:05] <possum_> its not hard, just read it
[03:05] <possum_> you probably know the answer
[03:05] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes, I can
[03:06] <MyComputerIsGone> they're there
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> PddOdd looks like theres no solution
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> ill try debian >< stinky ubuntu
[03:06] <dougl> possum_, read what?
[03:06] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: I find relevant results by searching for 'ubuntu server install usb asks for cd' on google. Maybe can can follow through some of these and see if they are helpful
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> i just did
[03:06] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, now you have several options but since the drive is only 2gb I don't want you to fill it up with non essential stuff.
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> lol you wanna know what the answer is
[03:06] <possum_> dougl: my question
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> try another program
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> every program gives me same result :P
[03:06] <Beldar> dougl, Yeah chroot to 13.10 no sudo just grub-install /dev/sda then update-grub
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> I say try another ISO lol like debian...silly ubuntu
[03:06] <possum_> dougl: hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan 192.168.0.1/24. x is also connected to wlan1 192.168.111.1/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 192.168.222.1/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z
[03:06] <possum_> effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x
[03:06] <MyComputerIsGone> Er...
[03:06] <possum_> to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. WHAT is going on!!????
[03:07] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, type "du -m ~/"
[03:07] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok
[03:07] <MyComputerIsGone> Wow, ok
[03:07] <knightshade> possum_: use pastebin!
[03:07] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, how many MB is it ?
[03:07] <MyComputerIsGone> yep, done!
[03:07] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: so you tried this too? http://www.mattkowalczyk.com/blog/?p=169
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> somsip:
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1369628
[03:07] <possum_> ok :(
[03:07] <MyComputerIsGone> total? it seems to be 5067
[03:08] <MyComputerIsGone> well, they didn't give any units
[03:08] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay so it is too large to just rsync the entire directory you will need to copy the stuff you want manually
[03:08] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: I don't need links. You have the problem
[03:08] <MyComputerIsGone> but that's what I'm assuming
[03:08] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, -m specified megabytes :-)
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> where do you enter
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> that stuf somsip
[03:08] <dougl> possum_, nice alphabet... beyond me good luck
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> it says hit no and enter
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> but i hit no and it takes me back to menu?
[03:08] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:08] <Beldar> !enter | MyComputerIsGone
[03:08] <MyComputerIsGone> yeah right....
[03:08] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: no it doesn't. Read the instructions
[03:08] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so you can do this cp -v "filename" /media/usb1
[03:08] <possum_> thanks still dougl
[03:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so you can do this cp -vR "directory" /media/usb1
[03:09] <MyComputerIsGone> ok DF3D2, I'll try and do this now
[03:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, tab will autocomplete file names also
[03:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so if you had /home/username/long file name you can type ~/lo<tab>
[03:10] <grahamsavage_> hello
[03:10] <grahamsavage_> every time i play videos in ubuntu i get these horizontal lines
[03:10] <somsip> grahamsavage_: what video card, what video player?
[03:11] <DF3D2> grahamsavage_, is it any video, or the same video file ?
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> somp
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> somsip: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/usb
[03:11] <grahamsavage_> any  video player (both vlc and youtube)
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> i get failed argument
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> at this step
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> step 2
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/usb
[03:11] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <grahamsavage_> higher quality videos get more lines
[03:11] <grahamsavage_> video card is on-board intel something
[03:11] <DF3D2> Psil0Cybin, you need to specify a number such as /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb2 "/dev/sdb" is an entire device
[03:11] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: where is your USB mounted? is it /dev/sdb?
[03:11] <DF3D2> use sudo fdisk -l
[03:12] <varunendra> Psil0Cybin, if you can compromise with a dirty workaround, install from the iso on a virtual-machine > clone the installation > restore on the physical disk. Sorry but if trying 'other' programs didn't help, and you've already verified the ISO integrity, this is all I can offer as a quick workaround
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> well ls /dev/sd*
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> gives me
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sda
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> and
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sdc
[03:12] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <DF3D2> Psil0Cybin, and sudo fdisk -l returns ?
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sdb and
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> bash
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> sudo not found
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> im trying to install the server from usb...siugh
[03:14] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: and i've given you a page of instructions that you couldn't find yourself and that you can't follow the instructions correctly. Not sure how to help you now...
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> yea it wont help me with step two
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> step two just says ivalid argument if you follow commands
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> rls /dev/sd*
[03:14] <varunendra> Psil0Cybin, maybe start your own thread at ubuntu forums. The one you linked to is light years old :P
[03:14] <DF3D2> light years
[03:14] <DF3D2> :-)
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> just says dev/sda sdb sdc
[03:14] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: replace /dev/sdb with the correct /dev/sd* that relates to your USB drive.
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> so just keep trying
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> till one works
[03:15] <DF3D2> Psil0Cybin, can you do fdisk -l ?
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> becasue it gievs me three.
[03:15] <DF3D2> without sudo ?
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> fdisk saysb ash no fdisk
[03:15] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> bin/sh fdisk not found
[03:15] <somsip> varunendra: if he's using 12.04 it will still apply (Psil0Cybin - is it 12.04?)
[03:16] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: try a more recent version, that has possibly more verbose instructions http://is.gd/AxBJ1I
[03:17] <DaemeonZane> hola folks. I have a quick question regarding the dist-upgrade flag for apt-get in 12.04
[03:18] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, working out for you?
[03:18] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, asking gets the answer
[03:18] <DaemeonZane> I just set up a fresh 12.04 install, and then ran the usual apt-get update, then went for the apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:18] <DaemeonZane> It went thru the usual install without failure, but when I reboot, it still shows me on 12.04
[03:18] <DaemeonZane> Any ideas on what I may have missed?
[03:18] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, dis-upgrade is a in release upgrade
[03:18] <Beldar> dist*
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> somsip:
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> i ran the commands
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> hit ALT + command
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> nothing happends
[03:19] <somsip> DaemeonZane: did you want to do-release-upgrade?
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> im still stuck on termianl before installing
[03:19] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:19] <Guest5041> How do I import settings from a .img file back up on an old Ubuntu install to a new install on a different machine?
[03:20] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I'm in progress and things seem to be going fine, thanks.
[03:20] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, sweet
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> ugh forget it
[03:20] <DaemeonZane> aaaah... I think I may have misunderstood what I was running
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> uybutnu doesnt work on usub
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> lmao
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> i ran all commands, it just borks eiother the alt+f4 does nothing
[03:21] <Beldar> Guest5041, settings? through waht app did you set them?
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> or the commands do not work :I(
[03:21] <DaemeonZane> I thought the dist-upgrade was a complete distro overhaul, especially since a lot of the packages mentioned raring instead of precise
[03:21] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: given you cant even follow the bots instructions on not using Enter as punctuation, I'm not surprised you're struggling. Maybe you should take a break and try again later. I can't help you
[03:21] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, If you saw raring check the sources.list
[03:22] <fire> only presentation software for presenting powerpoint presentation ?
[03:22] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: what exactly would I be looking for, except Raring references?
[03:23] <somsip> !info loimpress | fire
[03:23] <somsip> !find loimpress | fire
[03:24] <somsip> fire: less helpful than I hoped. But use Libre Office Impress
[03:24] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, If you have just ran a dist-upgrade and not modified the sources list or mistakenly added raring repos there or in sources.list.d, you should not see raring, are you sure?
[03:24] <possum_> hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan 192.168.0.1/24 via a switch. x is also connected to wlan1 192.168.111.1/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 192.168.222.1/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection
[03:24] <possum_> sharing (z effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also
[03:24] <possum_> connect from x to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. what is going on??
[03:24] <somsip> possum_: Use. Pastebin. Please.
[03:24] <chris429> hello, I am trying to share files between two linux computers on the same network, I can ping, but i dont see them in filebrowser
[03:25] <possum_> ok somsip :>
[03:25] <possum_> somsip: but please also help me :(
[03:25] <somsip> chris429: explain how you set it up
[03:25] <somsip> possum_: you need an network expert. I am not one
[03:25] <possum_> ok
[03:25] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: There  aren't any references to Raring in my sources.list (I hadn't modded it before the dist-upgrade command was run) but I saw quite a few packages getting installed that mentioned raring in detail
[03:26] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, Detail, in a apt-get upgrade?
[03:26] <chris429> somsip: both computers have the same version of linux, and the same username, password, everything, both have internet, and both can ping eachother
[03:26] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, run sudo apt-get update and pastebin it.
[03:26] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: Let's put it this way, in the almost 250 packages that got installed, I saw Raring on about half of them
[03:27] <somsip> chris429: and what are you using to connect to each other? NFS, Samba, SSH?
[03:27] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I believe i'm ready for the next part, if you are
[03:27] <chris429> Nemo
[03:27] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, you got everything copied over?
[03:28] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: Also, it just ran with 0 installed, removed, or upgraded when I ran it a second ago
[03:28] <chris429> somsip: samba
[03:28] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, make double sure
[03:28] <MyComputerIsGone> I'm good, I think.
[03:29] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so now you need to reinstall ubuntu right? do you have an install cd or another usb drive to make a bootable install ?
[03:29] <varunendra> possum_, you may try the networking channel ##networking
[03:29] <somsip> chris429: I don't know what Nemo is. Try using the full path to the machine in the address bar of the file browser, eg: smb://192.168.1.3/
[03:29] <fire> which presenation software to use to present powerpoint presenation ?
[03:29] <somsip> fire: Libre Office Impress
[03:29] <possum_> varunendra: i already tried there :(
[03:29] <possum_> they dont know either
[03:29] <possum_> we suspect it is an ubuntu issue
[03:30] <MyComputerIsGone> unfortunately, I don't have a disk of any sort.
[03:30] <chris429> somsip: okay, i think i got it now, thank you somsip for pointing me on the right track, i made a silly mistake
[03:30] <somsip> chris429: np
[03:30] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay so do you have another machine in the house ?
[03:30] <MyComputerIsGone> yes, a couple.
[03:30] <DF3D2> okay go copy the files off that usb stick to one of those
[03:30] <DF3D2> and come back when you are ready
[03:31] <varunendra> possum_, like I mentioned earlier, maybe try ubuntuforums. We do have some good users there who may have first hand experience of this kind of setup
[03:31] <possum_> ok
[03:33] <MyComputerIsGone> Uh, sorry, DF3D2. After copying the necessary files to the /media/usb1 folder, I don't believe that they have actually been transferred to the usb itself.
[03:33] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, If you run the update as I suggested ands pastebin it I can see if there is any anomaly
[03:33] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: Like I said, I just did, it didn't return anything except that there wasn't anything to return
[03:34] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, yeah because I don't think I told you to mount it... :-( fail my bad
[03:34] <MyComputerIsGone> oh, don't worry about it
[03:34] <MyComputerIsGone> so uh
[03:34] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay so do this, cp /media/usb1 ~/
[03:35] <DF3D2> confirm the files are in ~/usb1 with "ls -al ~/usb1"
[03:35] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: I'm running sudo do-release-upgrade -d now.... and it's putting me up to trusty. I think I may have just misunderstood the difference between it and apt-get dist-upgrade.
[03:36] <hipitihop_> Beldar, this is on livecd 12.04.3 and indeed the usb headset works out of the box, aalsa baseso it seems you were right re livecd not being conclusive
[03:36] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok, done.
[03:36] <DaemeonZane> After I upgrade to trusty I'll just run the usual clean out of broken and old dependencies, see what's up
[03:36] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, confirmed files are in ~/usb1 ?
[03:37] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, You claimed to see raring, this makes no sense, so what I asked for was some evidence so we could find out whats up. May I suggest to to some extent follow simple requests and ask if you don;t understand rather than assume your answer makes any sense in the least.
[03:37] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, that's correct, they are
[03:37] <somsip> DaemeonZane: I'm just wondering why you didn't install the daily build for trusty insteasd of going down the path you have
[03:38] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb1 && cp -vR ~/usb1 /media/usb1
[03:38] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, that should copy them sorry I forgot to have you actually mount it before ~_~
[03:38] <DaemeonZane> Somsip: Like I said, I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, thinking I'd wind up with the newest LTS distro, but apparently I just updated 12.04 like Beldar thought.
[03:39] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: I ran the commands you suggested, Sir, and I told you, I returned that there were simply no updates available at that point
[03:39] <somsip> DaemeonZane: yes. That's what dist-upgrade does. Maybe a clean install of the trusty daily build will be the easiest path for you, though unsuported here so I'll shut up now
[03:39] <DaemeonZane> I can't exactly force downgrade and re-run to show you what I mean
[03:39] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, I was not looking for updates I wanted to see the repos called.
[03:40] <varunendra> DaemeonZane, "do-release-upgrade" is the command for what you wanted. Not that I'm recommending it though ;)
[03:41] <DaemeonZane> lol varunendra I just ran it, though I told it NOT to do the upgrade
[03:41] <DaemeonZane> And it appears, Beldar, that when running said command, I return nothing but precise sources
[03:42] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, Cool, thats all I was trying to confirm.
[03:42] <DaemeonZane> Why, by the way, would do-release-upgrade to trusty not be supported or recommended?
[03:42] <DaemeonZane> Just curious
[03:42] <hipitihop_> Beldar, so at this point as per your inference, there is no guarantee that updating from my installed 12.04.3 to 13.10 will solve my usb headset being correctly detected. Is there anything straight forward I can run from this 12.04.3 live to compare against my installed one ?
[03:43] <DaemeonZane> Just that it's pretty new, or what?
[03:43] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, Trusty is in development, not released yet
[03:43] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I'm getting a mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/usb1 busy
[03:43] <somsip> DaemeonZane: some people have no problems with upgrading. Others have problems. It's probably cleaner to reinstall. It's not unsupported, just personal preference
[03:43] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, what does the command "mount" show ?
[03:43] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, make sure you aren't in /media/usb1 when you ran that command either
[03:44] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, cd ~/ and re run it
[03:44] <DaemeonZane> Ah... right on. Yeah, I was planning on setting up an Android build environment, and found out some of the packages were having issues installing in 12.04, but saw that a lot of those issues were ironed out in 13.04 and 13.10, so I thought I'd be getting one of those when I ran the apt-get dist-upgrade command. That's what I get for thinking lol
[03:45] <MyComputerIsGone> there are two notices after reruning it (the same as before): the one i just mentioned and another, according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/usb1
[03:45] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Not sure really, you may have done this already but I would look on the web for this sennheiser and 12.04 or ubuntu in general, askubuntu has a a lot of threads, and you may not be the only person in this delimma.
[03:45] <Beldar> dilemma*
[03:46] <MyComputerIsGone> also the very first time I ran it, it said cp: cannot create director '/media/usb1/usb1': Permisson denied
[03:46] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, ls -al /media/usb1
[03:46] <DF3D2> you sure the files aren't on it ?
[03:46] <Beldar> hipitihop_, I would make a threa at the ubuntu forums as well probably.
[03:46] <MyComputerIsGone> yes, interestingly enough there is nothing there
[03:46] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, this is odd
[03:46] <DaemeonZane> I'll probably just hose the 12.04 and do a fresh install of the 13 LTS
[03:47] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, try "sudo cp -Rv ~/usb1 /media/usb1
[03:47] <DF3D2> and then do ls -al /media/usb1
[03:47] <DF3D2> It seems to be mounted correctly
[03:48] <hipitihop_> Beldar, yes done already, followed and tried those threads and the ubuntu sound troubleshooting steps, only thing not tried is to do a manual build of latest alsa, but since this livecd shows same versions of alsa-base & -tools i.e. 1.0.25 then issue must be elsewhere
[03:48] <xangua> DaemeonZane: neither ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10 are LTS
[03:48] <MyComputerIsGone> and again with the "." and ".." but nothing else, unfortunately
[03:48] <MyComputerIsGone> oh wait
[03:48] <DaemeonZane> ????
[03:49] <DaemeonZane> No lie... hmmm
[03:49] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, try just ls -l
[03:49] <MyComputerIsGone> Sorry, this time there is a usb1 folder in there as well, is that what we were going for
[03:49] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Ah, well there may be users who know but did not make a thread to get it working, but may answer a thread you make, so this seems like an option
[03:49] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, some odd reason doing ls -al doesn't seem to work the way it should on my system either
[03:50] <DF3D2> it makes it not show everything when it should
[03:50] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes, now I see all the files DF3D2
[03:50] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, sorry about that but I swear it is a bug
[03:50] <DaemeonZane> It's been a long time since I've messed with Ubuntu at all. I've been on Mint because of work
[03:50] <hipitihop_> Beldar, yup, done that too and filed as bug
[03:50] <DF3D2> isnt ls -al supposed to show everything?
[03:50] <DF3D2> very odd
[03:51] <MyComputerIsGone> That's what I had heard...it's ok, don't worry about it. So, does everything else seem to be in order now?
[03:51] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay well now you can unmount the drive then "sudo umount /media/usb1" or sudo umount /dev/sdb1"
[03:51] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Cool, hope you get it resolved, seems possible if the phones work on the live environments.
[03:51] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, yea unmount it and then go copy the files
[03:52] <Beldar> hipitihop_ you can bump threads every 24 hors at the forums, so be sure to do that to get it on the list.
[03:53] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok, the files seem to all be there on the other machine!
[03:53] <hipitihop_> Beldar, thanks, I'll poke about a little more while I have this livecd botted to try and compare diffs with installed, then will boot back to installed and add more comments re this experiment
[03:53] <xangua> How can I create a PDF out of images? or add Images as pages to one existing PDF?
[03:53] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, cool so we need to make a bootable iso again, plug that drive back in to this machine
[03:54] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, dont mount it though it isn't necessary
[03:55] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I'm ready.
[03:56] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay sudo apt-get install wget
[03:56] <Beldar> xangua, Maybe libreoffice to a pdf, probably not the most elegant way.
[03:56] <MyComputerIsGone> oh no
[03:57] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, not sure if I mentioned this to you at the beginning, but there was this whole thing with the unmet dependencies and such with libreoffice that prevents me from downloading anything even after an -f thingy
[03:58] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, do you have wget installed already?
[03:58] <nitk> can anyone help me out in blocking traceroute utility using iptables?
[03:58] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, type wget
[03:58] <anonymous__> Hello
[03:59] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, wget: missing URL  + type wget --help seems to suggest that I have it.
[03:59] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, good!
[03:59] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, is this a 64bit machine ?
[03:59] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes it is.
[03:59] <DF3D2> perfect
[03:59] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, desktop?
[04:00] <MyComputerIsGone> laptop, System 76
[04:00] <DF3D2> Idk what system 76 means
[04:00] <DF3D2> do you want Ubuntu Xubuntu Or Lubuntu ?
[04:00] <MyComputerIsGone> oh uh sorry that's the brand name. Ubuntu please.
[04:00] <SneakyTheBeaver> Hello guys, I'm trying to find my network adapter drivers on ubuntu, can someone help me find them ?
[04:00] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, cd ~/ && wget http://mirror.lstn.net/ubuntu-releases/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:01] <somsip> SneakyTheBeaver: for what adapter?
[04:01] <SneakyTheBeaver> I don't know =\
[04:01] <hipitihop_> it seems I don't have rights from livecd to drill down into home folders on my installed drive, what is the correct way from livecd
[04:01] <dougl> g'night ladies and gents thanks again for the help :)
[04:01] <SneakyTheBeaver> I have windows on my hdd and ubuntu on my ssd and windows can't find the drivers so I thought I'd take the drivers I have on ubuntu which allow me to connect to the internet and put them on windows
[04:02] <somsip> SneakyTheBeaver: poste the output of 'sudo lshw -c network' to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:02] <MyComputerIsGone> Hm, DF3D2, it seems to be going at a pace that will end in 5 hours. is this the last step in the process?
[04:02] <SneakyTheBeaver> PCI (sysfs)
[04:02] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, is your internet slow or is that mirror slow ?
[04:02] <somsip> !pastebin | SneakyTheBeaver
[04:03] <MyComputerIsGone> Hm, well my computer is rather new so I don't see how it could be the computer.
[04:03] <SneakyTheBeaver> pastebin.com/djqemQbd
[04:03] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, I mean your internet bandwidth
[04:03] <DF3D2> is it a fast connection or not?
[04:04] <somsip> SneakyTheBeaver: I have that and it works out of the box for me. What is the problem?
[04:04] <SneakyTheBeaver> I am trying to get it to work on windows
[04:04] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, if you think the problem is that mirror you can hit ctrl+c to cancel it and try with this... wget http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/13.10/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:04] <somsip> SneakyTheBeaver: go to ##windows then. Bye
[04:04] <SneakyTheBeaver> and it says no drivers fond
[04:04] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Have you looked at lsusb with the phines plugged to see hardware info for your searches?
[04:04] <Beldar> phones*
[04:04] <SneakyTheBeaver> somsip don't be like that, I said I am trying to find the ubuntu drivers
[04:04] <MyComputerIsGone> According to family sources the internet is "fine"...
[04:05] <SneakyTheBeaver> because windows doesn't have them
[04:05] <SneakyTheBeaver> Can you help me find the drivers so I can put them on the windows harddrive?
[04:05] <hipitihop_> Beldar, yes, its the same as my installed
[04:05] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, well try the other mirror I gave you, it is listed as 10gbps connection so if it takes 5 hrs also then it would be based on your internet speed
[04:05] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Cool, at tomes it takes a closer look is all.
[04:05] <Beldar> times*
[04:06] <SneakyTheBeaver> anyone know where drivers for network adapters are stored on ubuntu 13.1?
[04:06] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, anyway write this down ... when you get the iso file, you want to do "sudo dd if=/home/username/filename.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M"
[04:06] <MyComputerIsGone> I'd say 33 minutes is a pretty good improvement, DF3D2 =)
[04:07] <Ira_L> Does anyone know of a new laptop on which it is easily possible to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8.1?
[04:07] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, make sure with sudo fdisk -l ur drive is still /dev/sdb
[04:07] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, DO NOT mix up the "if" and "of" sections
[04:07] <DF3D2> total failure if so.
[04:07] <SneakyTheBeaver> anyone?
[04:08] <DF3D2> noone
[04:08] <nitk> can anyone help me out in blocking traceroute utility using iptables?
[04:08] <Beldar> Ira_L, Not really a channel issue and really a poll which is not allowed.
[04:08] <SneakyTheBeaver> nobody knows where network adapter drivers are stored?
[04:08] <DF3D2> SneakyTheBeaver, in the krnel
[04:08] <DF3D2> SneakyTheBeaver, they are kernel modules
[04:08] <MyComputerIsGone> Hm, I see.
[04:08] <pvl1> !modules | SneakyTheBeaver
[04:08] <Bashing-om> SneakyTheBeaver: cross platforms does not work ! Drivers used in 'buntu will not be installable/usable in Windows.
[04:08] <SneakyTheBeaver> oh :(
[04:08] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, after that you can simply reboot the computer and in the bios select the USB drive as the first boot option
[04:09] <DF3D2> and install ubuntu
[04:09] <aaaaa> I have a question about installing ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[04:09] <somsip> !ask | aaaaa
[04:09] <MyComputerIsGone> Thank you very much, DF3D2.
[04:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, it will take a little while to run the DD command so just let it go until it is done it will say something about it copied X Mb in X time or something
[04:09] <Beldar> Ira_L, Here is a certified link, but many work that are not listed, I have both on my toshiba, but it is a msdos no uefi. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[04:09] <MyComputerIsGone> Might I ask, did you know all that from memory?
[04:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, yes :-)
[04:10] <MyComputerIsGone> Cool!
[04:10] <MyComputerIsGone> Thanks again, I really appreciate it.
[04:10] <DF3D2> I've been on linux on and off for 10-15 years
[04:10] <DF3D2> yep ill be on for a bit feel free to ask if you need any help
[04:10] <pvl1> !ask | aaaaa
[04:10] <aaaaa> I'm installing ubuntu on a laptop, and the laptop already had an operating system installed. I partitioned the hard drive so that there was only one partition: that of the original operating system, and then some free space. I installed ubuntu and checked the box that read "install along my current operating system", and was wondering if that means that ubuntu will install in the free space on my hard drive?
[04:11] <pvl1> aaaaa: yes
[04:11] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, for the record none of that is high level stuff -- im no linux expert by any means but I get around OK.
[04:11] <aaaaa> alright, thanks pvll
[04:11] <aaaaa> or, pvl1
[04:11] <pvl1> no problem aaaaa just be sure you have enough room for ubunut
[04:12] <hipitihop_> Beldar, understand. The puzzling thing is lsusb and dmesg seem to produce same output from both the live and my installed 12.04.3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707166/
[04:12] <ronisha> what software package can I use to fill out a pdf form?
[04:13] <nitk> How to block traceroute utility using iptables? (ICMP)
[04:13] <ronisha> nitk: iptables -A INPUT -t ICMP -j REJECT or something like that
[04:14] <DF3D2> does anyone else have an issue where no kernel after .12 works with usb mice/kbs ?
[04:14] <DF3D2> I cant use anything but .12 or I have a total lack of mouse/kb functionality
[04:14] <pvl1> nitk: please ask in #networking
[04:14] <DF3D2> nitk, im sure you can google that pretty easily
[04:14] <ronisha> nitk: or google it :)
[04:14] <DF3D2> ^
[04:15] <erghadz> hello again,,,  Is anyone here familiar with synchronizing to a public time server with openelec?
[04:15] <nitk> ronisha: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type 8 -j DROP. I used this, but didn't work
[04:15] <erghadz> I don't know how to do it.
[04:16] <ronisha> nitk: try leaving out the --icmp-type part
[04:16] <ronisha> nitk: and don't drop, try rejecting
[04:16] <somsip> !ntp | erghadz
[04:16] <xentity1x> hi, i just upgraded to 13.10 now when i try to to load a bin file with pcsx the program crashes, anyone know why?
[04:16] <somsip> erghadz: hang on...openelec? You need the openelec support channel
[04:17] <erghadz> somsip: they're all dead
[04:17] <erghadz> somsip: I tried that first, then I tried #linux
[04:17] <somsip> erghadz: it's not something we suport here. The openelec forums are very active. Maybe try searching there
[04:17] <erghadz> maybe I typo'd
[04:18] <ronisha> what ubuntu package can I use to edit pdf for? (I need to fill a form out and email it back)
[04:18] <erghadz> somsip: I have... I dunno if I am just searching wrong
[04:18] <xentity1x> hi, i just upgraded to 13.10 now when i try to to load a bin file with pcsx the program crashes, anyone know why?
[04:18] <nitk> ronisha: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j REJECT. Doesn't work..!!
[04:19] <DF3D2> ronisha, rejecting lets someone know you exist though
[04:19] <somsip> xentity1x: with what error?
[04:19] <DF3D2> better to just drop I think?
[04:19] <ronisha> nitk: google my friend, I'm not sure im just going off quick memory
[04:19] <pvl1> xentity1x: run with     -psxout
[04:19] <ronisha> DF3D2: I thought it was the other way around :)
[04:19] <DF3D2> ronisha, maybe not sure entirely
[04:19] <DF3D2> :-P
[04:20] <xentity1x> somsip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707202/
[04:21] <nitk> From last 24hrs..I'm struggling for it. I did all the possible ways. Hope you will help me in this..
[04:21] <Beldar> hipitihop_, The lsusb should be basically the same, as a guess the dmesg might have differentials depending on some variables, command, kernels and drivers...etc.
[04:21] <somsip> xentity1x: so there is a bug in the program according to that. You should report it as an issue to the author. However, it might be worth updating pcsx first. This might help on 13.10 (assuming you use the same PPA) http://is.gd/PTp9ly
[04:22] <Beldar> dmesg is not something I ever really use have npt really needed it myself, hipitihop_ I learn what I need basically.
[04:22] <Beldar> not*
[04:25] <Cheryl_c_> I have ubuntu 14.o4
[04:25] <somsip> !14.04 | Cheryl_c_
[04:26] <Cheryl_c_> When I try to use the Ubuntu 14.4 software center it hangs up the computer. I have to reboot to get out of it.  Any suggestions would be helpful
[04:26] <ses1984> i tried to get nvidia proprietary drivers running on my system, now i just get a black screen
[04:27] <ses1984> if i move the mouse around, I see a cursor that looks like gnome hasn't loaded
[04:27] <ses1984> if i ctrl-alt-f1 or another, i just see no output to the monitor or just a cursor
[04:28] <ses1984> i can't log in at all. actually i am able to log in over SSH but i'm troubleshooting and failing
[04:28] <somsip> Cheryl_c_: as the bot said, support for 14.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <Cheryl_c_> Sorry that was Ubunto 13.10
[04:28] <ses1984> every time i sudo service lightdm restart, i just get the same weird X cursor
[04:28] <somsip> ses1984: how did you install the new drivers?
[04:29] <ses1984> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[04:29] <ses1984> then lightdm restart
[04:29] <somsip> ses1984: looks normal. Did that process complete okay? No errors? All kernel modules built and everything?
[04:29] <ses1984> i have tried to sudo X -configure, and move the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[04:30] <ses1984> i think the command completed successfully
[04:30] <ses1984> i have actually tried to remove and purge that
[04:30] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, run in the terminal software-center and look for errors
[04:30] <pvl1> session problem
[04:30] <somsip> ses1984: so you have now purged them, or are they installed?
[04:30] <pvl1> ses1984: what do you use, unity?
[04:30] <ses1984> i tried to sudo X -configure and copy that config file in, according to Xorg.0.log it was pulling that in
[04:30] <smacktalk1> is there a way to stream one line of text into a file using sed?  I can't figure out the command stucture from the man page...
[04:31] <Cheryl_c_> Beldar: How do I do that? I am a newbie
[04:31] <ses1984> somsip i tried to re-install them i dont remember if i purged it just now. secoind please
[04:31] <somsip> smacktalk1: sed 's/this/that' file > outputfile
[04:31] <ses1984> pvl1: yes
[04:31] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, OPen a terminal ctrl-alt-t then type in software-center and hit enter, then look for errors
[04:32] <somsip> smacktalk1: though as I type that, I wonder if I know what I'm on about...
[04:32] <Guest4742>  
[04:32] <pvl1> ses1984: in a tty, can you try startx & unity&
[04:32] <pvl1> or idk what the command to run a unity session is
[04:32] <pvl1> Beldar: ^^
[04:32] <pvl1> do u?
[04:32] <somsip> smacktalk1: apparently I did http://is.gd/tG1ug4
[04:33] <ses1984> i cant get a direct tty, only ssh, do i have to pass it some parameters about which display to use
[04:33] <somsip> ses1984: you can check the X error log if you can ssh...
[04:33] <pvl1> ses1984: yes
[04:33] <pvl1> probably
[04:33] <ses1984> the error log doesn't show me anything obvious that would explain why i see an X cursor but nothing else is loading and i cant even get a tty
[04:33] <ses1984> let me paste it
[04:34] <somsip> ses1984: so are we assuming that the drivers are installed and you didn't purge them?
[04:34] <pvl1> ses1984: i just said, its because your session isnt loading. probably nothing to do with xserver itself. just a session script
[04:35] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, Basically this is just an attempt to open the software center to see if any errors show that may indicate the problem.
[04:36] <hipitihop_> Beldar, understand, I do same re only learn what I need, but other unrelated experiments some time back to do with lirc usb device, tought me that while lsusb may see the device, it is the dmesg details that can give hints as to what kernel module/driver may be grabbing it or failing
[04:37] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Heh, true, I'm just an armchair user in the end, my studies are in many other areas is all.
[04:37] <ses1984> somsip: i purged them
[04:37] <somsip> ses1984: k
[04:38]  * hipitihop_ boots back to installed 12.04.3
[04:38] <ses1984> pvl1: if i try to startx i get a message about user not authorized.
[04:38] <ses1984> if i sudo i get this: xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
[04:39] <ses1984> i'm trying to look up about passing a display parameter
[04:39] <pvl1> ses1984: killall x first
[04:39] <ses1984> Xorg.log if i use the xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707244/
[04:39] <smacktalk1> this is what I'm trying to do...add this line of text to the psmouse.conf file something like sed -e '/options psmouse proto=imps/'  > /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf
[04:39] <ses1984> without http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707257/
[04:39] <Cheryl_c_> Beldar: here is the output -2014-01-06 23:33:21,970 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.views.lobbyview - WARNING - skipping exhibit for: 'u'amnesia-amfp'' not available 2014-01-06 23:33:25,937 - softwarecenter.region - WARNING - failed to use geoclue: 'org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Geoclue.Master was not provided by any .service files' 2014-01-06 23:33:28,511 - softwarecenter.db.utils - INFO - software-
[04:40] <ses1984> killall x: no process found
[04:40] <somsip> smacktalk1: the destination file will need sudo access. Use 'sudo tee' to write to it. I'll look for an example
[04:40] <smacktalk1> thanks  :)
[04:40] <smacktalk1> i'm root
[04:41] <somsip> smacktalk1: Urgghh.
[04:41] <somsip> smacktalk1: A safer approach http://is.gd/P7G6wK
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys sorry I was having a problem attempting to install Ubuntu Server without a CD Drive on the server computer. I downloaded the ISO, Burned it with Startup Disk Creator, It would not work. I attempted to follow a few guides somsip and a few others listed, but it did not seem to work...someone suggested that guide was out of date?
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> Sorry I am just home now, I was stressing at work because I never had that problem with an ISO install of Ubuntu server...odd.
[04:42] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: what version are you using?
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04 LTS.
[04:42] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: so the guide is appropriate.
[04:42] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, Try running in the terminal this command to see if you have any broken packages, I do see a bug with the software center, so run this. sudo apt-get -f install
[04:42] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: did you get the second link with more verbose instructions on it?
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> I attempted to use the guide, the problem is that when following the guide it suggested that it would allow me to add commands after I select Do not boot from CD. I found the menu to add commands in, and followed the commands...even figuring out that it was sda ! but when I did Alt+F4. It did not work, and nothing happened.
[04:43] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, I forgot to ask if you have run any updates as well.
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> I did not get a chance to get to the second link which someone suggested was newer.
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> could someone perhaps please relink it?
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> Most of the googling I did sugggested to try other burning methods...
[04:44] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: [03:16] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: try a more recent version, that has possibly more verbose instructions http://is.gd/AxBJ1I
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> ty looking at it now
[04:44] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: k. Glad you've calmed down a bit now...
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> the guide is for windows.
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 to burn the Iso :)
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> yea, sorry I was really freaking out at work, never had these issues...sigh
[04:45] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: scroll down... Maybe I spoke too soon about you calming down :/
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> but yes I am much more calm now.. ahah!
[04:45] <Beldar> lol
[04:45] <Cheryl_c_> Output = Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:   sbsigntool Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Yes I have done updates to all my software
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> somsip
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> i am printing that guide now, to bring to work for tomorrow.
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> I will give it a try, anything else I can print as well?
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> if incase this does not work?
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> or this "should" be the solution.
[04:46] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: the issue seems to be that you need to mount the USB in a way to fool the installer into thinking it's the CD. That's all. I've only looked for these two guides (other as previous)
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> ooohhh
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> but why  must I fool the installer? is there no installer for just a plain usb install?
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> or was it the way it was burned?
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> I am just confused why this happened :P
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> just as a FYI type thing, so I know
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> and learn
[04:47] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: There are plenty of instances of this happening which suggests it's a real problem. If you want a solution, try these and read more around it. If you want to bug report once you know what you want to say, great
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> yea thanks
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> very helpful somsip :)
[04:48] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: np
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> next I have to learn if my system is a hardware raid or software raid
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> I have alot to do :( tomorrow.
[04:48] <Ben64> you should know if its hardware raid
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> I think it was a hard ware raid, becasue they put it together
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> with the drives, in the store
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> and said I just need to configure ubuntu :S for it
[04:48] <Ben64> who are "they"
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> Tiger Direct
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> in Canada.
[04:48] <TheAndrewK> I'm having a lot of trouble booting into my machine - many times, it just shows a black screen with a blinking cursor. Wasn't having issues this morning, but moved hardware into a new case and now getting this :(
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> TheAndrewK: sounds like perhaps a driver issue??
[04:49] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, Hmm two not upgraded, have you been using the update manager gui and have you seen any partial upgrade warnings?
[04:49] <Ben64> !nomodeset | TheAndrewK try this
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> I get the black screen alot TheAndrewK.
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> nomodeset is good to try
[04:49] <sdn3rd> how long after you issue dput will it take to see packages in your PPA?
[04:49] <TheAndrewK> @ubottu, @Ben64: I'll try that.
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> Ben64: so if they set up the raid while they built the computer
[04:49] <TheAndrewK> @Psil0Cybin: it was working this morning, so I doubt drivers
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> I am assuming its a hardware raid :P
[04:49] <ses1984> so any ideas...
[04:50] <somsip> sdn3rd: PPAs are not suported here. You need to ask the package maintainer
[04:50] <sdn3rd> I made the package
[04:50] <sdn3rd> I am uploading it to my PPA
[04:50] <somsip> sdn3rd: then *your* PPA packages are not suported here. Try Launchpad support page
[04:51] <sdn3rd> I did, doesnt tell me how long it takes to see it :P
[04:51] <sdn3rd> anyhow thanks for not being helpful ;)
[04:51] <rww> such rules very harsh
[04:51] <rww> sdn3rd: #launchpad might help :)
[04:51] <linuxlite1969> any one knows for the VLC update here??
[04:51] <Cheryl_c_> After I use the upgrade manager and reboot I see several failure warnings upon reboot before the gui kicks in
[04:52] <sdn3rd> rww: thanks much :)
[04:52] <Cheryl_c_> Beldar: After I use the upgrade manager and reboot I see several failure warnings upon reboot before the gui kicks in
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin>  I just got a server, for work...I asked them to raid the system and they said they did it while they built the computer does that mean its a hardware raid or a software raid? how can I find out?
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> woops >.<
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> didnt mean to repost it
[04:55] <TheAndrewK> trying the 'nomodeset' parameter and it still falls to a black screen w/ blinking icon :(
[04:56] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, So I'm trying to put together the reboot associated with the update manager, generally you would only with a few installs there, kernel upgrades/updates is one. The errors you see may or may not be related to the software center, best to save them if possible and pastebin them for posting.
[04:57] <TheAndrewK> one issue I found is if I try to scroll over while editing the GRUB options (hitting left/right arrow keys), after a bit, my system will freeze.
[04:57] <TheAndrewK> any idea why that is?
[04:57] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, I think you will need more experienced help than mine here as well.
[04:58] <TheAndrewK> system temp (as reported in bios) seems pretty high...
[04:58] <TheAndrewK> but all case fans and processor fans are spinning fine
[04:59] <Beldar> TheAndrewK, Just so you know we don't use @ you would use the nick and a comma or : or just tab complete nicks.
[04:59] <TheAndrewK> Beldar:ah yeah, sorry :)
[04:59] <Beldar> hehe no biggie
[04:59] <Cheryl_c_> Beldar: Thanks for your help so far.  I am still working on it. Anyone else out there knows how to get Ubuntu to not hang at the software center?
[04:59] <smacktalk1> this worked better    echo "this is a text to append" >> filename
[05:00] <TheAndrewK> Ben64:nomodeset seems to have no effect sadly.
[05:02] <jakis> my internet keeps disconnecting, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and im on a wireless connection
[05:02] <jakis> what could be the problem
[05:02] <TheAndrewK> Ben64: seems I get a freeze when I am editing GRUB entries and using the arrow keys
[05:04] <jKlaus> doe anyone know of an ubuntu variant that is geared towards development?
[05:04] <jKlaus> Does*
[05:04] <jakis> my internet keeps disconnecting im on a wireless connection, and on ubuntu 12.04lts, what could be the problem?
[05:05] <jKlaus> jakis.. I had the same issue with one wireless adapter.  It was the driver it was using
[05:05] <jKlaus> Had to install the latest driver, problem solved.
[05:05] <jakis> jKlaus, how do i do that?
[05:06] <jKlaus> Google it.. figure out what chipset your device has then start googling  most likely many others have already solved the problem for you.. and give you a step by step on how to fix it
[05:06] <TheAndrewK> i was able to select the recovery boot option in GRUB, but it halts/freezes on "msgmni has been set to 15964"
[05:06] <jakis> jKlaus, ok thank you buklau
[05:06] <TheAndrewK> I don't see anything error-like or suspicious
[05:06] <TheAndrewK> a blinking cursor is below
[05:07] <TheAndrewK> I can't hit CTRL+ALT+F1 or anything of that sort.
[05:07] <TheAndrewK> CTRL+ALT+DEL also does not trigger a reboot
[05:07] <jKlaus> np jakis.. figuring out the chipset will tell you what driver you need.  From there you'll easily be able to figure out if thats the problem
[05:07] <TheAndrewK> rebooting...
[05:11] <F^3> Any recommendations for WMs to check out besides Gnome, Unity, KDE, XFCE, and dwm?
[05:12] <smacktalk1> what's the best rdp client?
[05:12] <F^3> smacktalk1, rdesktop
[05:12] <SchrodingersScat> F^3: I've heard good things about 'awesome' and 'wmii'
[05:13] <F^3> (for the lazy http://awesome.naquadah.org/)
[05:13] <packetscaper> hi guys
[05:14] <TheAndrewK> still unsure why this isn't booting :(
[05:14] <somsip> F^3: it depends what you are looking for. What functionality do you want?
[05:14] <F^3> TheAndrewK, What's the problem?
[05:15] <TheAndrewK> F^3:have had multiple issues so far: booting normally kicks me to a black screen with a blinking cursor; recovery booting freezes after a bit
[05:15] <TheAndrewK> will attempt again
[05:15] <F^3> somsip, Clean, minimalistic, and just a WM and not a full DE. A background image/menu launcher would be a huge bonus.
[05:15] <F^3> I was thinking about looking into xmonade (sp?) or i3
[05:16] <TheAndrewK> booting 3.11.0-14
[05:16] <somsip> F^3: tiling or non-tiling?
[05:16] <TheAndrewK> freezes this time after handling cdrom and detecting usb device (my card reader)
[05:16] <TheAndrewK> froze in a different place last time.
[05:16] <TheAndrewK> i've tried booting live CDs with no success either.
[05:16] <F^3> somsip, If it can only tile text (terminal) based apps and float gui windows that would be a huge bonus.
[05:16] <F^3> TheAndrewK, Sounds like an xorg driver issue. What video card?
[05:17] <TheAndrewK> GeForce GTX 260
[05:17] <TheAndrewK> it was working this morning before I migrated the hardware into a new case, though
[05:17] <F^3> Oh.. missed your last message. Did you already install it?
[05:17] <TheAndrewK> so I'm a bit stumped if there are driver issues
[05:17] <packetscaper> guys I have recently installed Ubuntu in my Dell inspiron. eveything is working fine but I am getting a lot cpu utilization even when a tab is opened
[05:17] <F^3> Hmm. What about unplugging the USB and cdrom device?
[05:17] <packetscaper> I think there is some issue with graphics card driver
[05:17] <TheAndrewK> F^3:worth a shot :)
[05:18] <F^3> packetscaper, It wouldn't stall so early on from what I understand.
[05:18] <packetscaper> pzl suggest something
[05:18] <F^3> TheAndrewK, if it was working on the other case it might be an issue with a shorting as well (unlikely)
[05:18] <somsip> F^3: possible the family of awesome/xmonad/dwm as they should allow per-screen layouts. EG: I use awesome and tile everything, but screen 1 has mail and skype, screen 2 has irc and browser, etc... Any of the screens could be floating rather than tiling. Throw in feh and dmenu and you might have what you need
[05:18] <TheAndrewK> yeah, this case is brand new so
[05:18] <packetscaper> I have installed it before
[05:18] <packetscaper> and have worked on it
[05:19] <F^3> somsip, Would it be possible to make it auto float though? I know I can manually float windows.
[05:19] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I have Apple's Mac fonts in Ubuntu?
[05:19] <TheAndrewK> F^3:attempting a boot now.
[05:19] <mojtaba> Or simply use nicer fonts?
[05:20] <somsip> F^3: I can only advise on awesome. Yes. You setup rules based on window names, so Chrome will always float no matter which window it is on (example)
[05:20] <F^3> somsip, Hmm. Would it be possible to add a rule to float everything and manually set x windows to tile?
[05:21] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> why
[05:21] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ?
[05:21] <rww> Atlantic777: why what
[05:21] <rww> erm
[05:22] <rww> Angel_Of_Sorrow: why what
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> im not sure
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> i got banned for no reason
[05:22] <TheAndrewK> F^3: this time, recovery boot - froze again at sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
[05:22] <somsip> F^3: I'm not sure it would. Better to have terminals fixed to a specific screen and tile them there. If you don't get the idea of screens that have different layouts, maybe awesome is not what you need. Dunno about dwm and xmonad though
[05:22] <rww> Angel_Of_Sorrow: go talk to #ubuntu-ops, then
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> i tried loging in yesterday
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> and i was banned
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ive been good though
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> good
[05:22] <rww> Angel_Of_Sorrow: go talk to #ubuntu-ops, then
[05:22] <somsip> Angel_Of_Sorrow: if you continue asking about that here, you will be banned again
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ah
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> apologies
[05:22] <F^3> somsip, 90% of the time I use my PC as a HTPC
[05:23] <F^3> TheAndrewK, Sounds like SDC is busted and the kernel can't register the device halting the boot.
[05:23] <TheAndrewK> hmm, ok
[05:23] <F^3> so only one screen is used. I kind of like the idea of having terminal apps as part of my background I suppose.
[05:23] <TheAndrewK> I'll see if I can boot a live CD I suppose.
[05:23] <somsip> F^3: all the above still applies. But this is not really ubuntu support so I'm going to stop the OT chat at that. Hope you find something useful for you
[05:23] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> no
[05:23] <jakis> Angel_Of_Sorrow, no
[05:24] <F^3> Thanks. I'll look into them in the morning.
[05:24] <somsip> F^3: np
[05:25] <TheAndrewK> attempting a live CD...
[05:25] <TheAndrewK> :( gah
[05:26] <TheAndrewK> thrown to a black screen with blinking white cursor for the live CD, even.
[05:26] <TheAndrewK> is there any way to figure out why the live CD is also throwing me to a black sceen/blinking cursor?
[05:28] <pvl1> are .desktop files unity specific
[05:29] <Angel_Of_Sorrow1> what improvements has ubuntu made since 2007 (When i last used it)? You see I've been a windows again man until recently??
[05:30] <pvl1> Angel_Of_Sorrow1: usability, eye candy, theyve developed platforms for all kinds of mobile devices tvs
[05:30] <pvl1> Angel_Of_Sorrow1: go as in #ubuntu-offoptic
[05:31] <somsip> Angel_Of_Sorrow1: grab a live CD and see for yourself
[05:31] <mintyz> who can help me with my ubuntu installation issue...... <---- rookie
[05:31] <pvl1> mintyz: whats up
[05:32] <mintyz> after installation, seems i've lost my windows os
[05:32] <pvl1> mintyz: can you describe your installation process please
[05:33] <packetscaper> even i am having an installation issue
[05:34] <packetscaper> my cpu temperature is high, battery is killing fast but cpu utilization is normal
[05:34] <mintyz> installed ubuntu, fixed the grub loader issue and still no windows 7 showing
[05:34] <pvl1> packetscaper: what laptop
[05:34] <F^3> packetscaper, Heat sink issue?
[05:34] <mintyz> and when i tried to fix the windows boot loader, nothing for windows is finding my OS....
[05:34] <packetscaper> Dell inspiron
[05:34] <F^3> Oh.. I didn't see the battery part, sorry.
[05:34] <pvl1> packetscaper: drivers/modules
[05:34] <sleepie^> What do most people use in place of VMware on Ubuntu for virtualizing ISO's?
[05:35] <pvl1> !modules | packetscaper
[05:35] <F^3> sladen, Do you mean for reading ISOs or actually executing the code?
[05:35] <pvl1> mintyz: how did you try to fix windows bootloader
[05:35] <rww> F^3: (mistab)
[05:39] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:39] <pvl1> !virtualization | sleepie^
[05:41] <mintyz> pvl1: is there any way to check if my windows os is still intact through ubuntu?
[05:42] <kseifried> so I log into ubuntu 13.04 it tells e to run do-release-upgrade, which then tells me no new version available. hints?
[05:42] <sleepie^> !virtualization
[05:42] <pvl1> kseifried: apt-get update
[05:42] <kseifried> did that
[05:42] <kseifried> ah dns nevermind
[05:42] <pvl1> lol
[05:42] <pvl1> !virtualization | sleepie^
[05:43] <kseifried> man do-release-upgrade needs better errors :P
[05:44] <pvl1> !lxde | packetscaper
[05:44] <sleepie^> test
[05:44] <Wug> sucks when the person you're helping splits off of the network
[05:44] <acts__> hello
[05:44] <pvl1> mintyz: yes
[05:45] <mintyz> ??? :)
[05:45] <linuxlite1969> vlc update? command???
[05:47] <pvl1> mintyz: can you please pastbin the output of ssudo blkidudo blkid
[05:47] <pvl1> sudo blkid
[05:47] <pvl1> sorry
[05:49] <linuxlite1969> vlc update command anyone know???
[05:50] <somsip> linuxlite1969: how did you install vlc?
[05:50] <somsip> linuxlite1969: are you using ubuntu or linuxlite?
[05:51] <linuxlite1969> linuxlite/ubuntu 12.04
[05:51] <mintyz> one sec
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[05:52] <somsip> linuxlite1969: linuxlite is not supported here. join #linuxlite
[05:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:00] <tr0n> any way to ubdate the touchpad drivers from command line?
[06:01] <_jam> anyone know of a good PPA for virtualbox 4.3 for saucy? The oracle one might as well just have a script that downloads the 'universal' installer and screws everything up
[06:02] <somsip> tr0n: the way to do all updates is 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' but whether it picks up the touchpad drivers as changed depends on the release of a new package
[06:02] <somsip> !ppa | _jam
[06:03] <tr0n> well im running 1204 lte on a chromebook, but i'll try it, thnx
[06:03] <mintyz> plv1: sorry, took a #2   but here it is : http://pastebin.com/c3dyDU0r#
[06:03] <_jam> somsip: yea, that page is giving me a timeout error. thus the reason I'm here  :)
[06:03] <_jam> also hadn't found anything with google
[06:03] <Beldar> _jam, Never had trouble with vbox from oracle what happens when you use it?
[06:04] <_jam> unfortunately, the virtualbox that ships in 13.10 is pretty seriously broken
[06:04] <somsip> _jam: looks like launchpad may be done. So even if you find an unsupported PPA you wont be able to use it until launchpad is up. See recursion.
[06:04] <_jam> Beldar: well, for one thing, it doesn't conform to the package layout of debian/ubuntu. it is just one big monolithic package
[06:04] <somsip> *down
[06:04] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone I have a problem with my display, none of the application have a window, i.e no close button , no window resizing etc.
[06:05] <ripthejacker> Not sure if problem with unity or compiz. Please help
[06:05] <ripthejacker> I cannot switch applications, so I can't even use my browser to search
[06:05] <_jam> and then it doesn't have the ubuntu/debian-specific guest installation stuff, it just installs all of their stuff in various folders and you have to go through and use installation scripts
[06:06] <_jam> which is crap, since if I 'uninstall' the package, the stuff that the installation scripts isntalled will stick around
[06:06] <ripthejacker> please help
[06:06] <somsip> _jam: Just wait until launchpad is up, and you should be able to find what you need.
[06:06] <Beldar> _jam, vbox has it's own setup, are you sure what you actually want is any different than theirs rather than a ppa's...etc
[06:07] <Jordan_U> mintyz: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[06:07] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | mintyz
[06:07] <mintyz> copy that
[06:08] <_jam> Beldar: everything has its own setup. the point is that a PPA should follow the package layout of ubuntu/debian, that way apt/aptitude/etc can just choose the latest version of the package and go on
[06:09] <Beldar> _jam, Heh, not sure that is more than a opinion, not a real actuality.
[06:09] <_jam> well, I've been on debian and ubuntu for over 10 years, and every 3rd party repository/PPA I've used has used that convention
[06:10] <Beldar> _jam, Most ppa's are modified ubuntu packages not a whole app from a 3rd party however.
[06:10] <Beldar> anyway good luck
[06:11] <_jam> Beldar: false. almost all software that ships with ubuntu (and therefore almost all PPAs that add to or replace existing versions of that software) is 3rd party
[06:11] <_jam> it is packaged in a way to be compatible and upgrade nicely. oracle shat on that without warning and now I'm stuck cleaning it up
[06:11] <Beldar> lol what ever you say, maybe a tranquilizer would be some help here.
[06:19] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, Window decorations are missing when I login using unity.
[06:20] <xangua> ripthejacker: did you install compiz settings manager?
[06:20] <ripthejacker> xangua: no
[06:21] <ripthejacker> And I get error dialogs for compiz and apport-gtk
[06:21] <ripthejacker> but no such error in gnome-classic(no effects)
[06:21] <mintyz> ubottu: I am getting a "command not found" after installation and using term
[06:21] <xangua> ripthejacker: how about reset compiz settings?
[06:22] <mintyz> ubottu: well i am only a human, dont think I am intelligent either......
[06:23] <ripthejacker> xangua: I deleted the .compiz dir but the problem still exists
[06:24] <mintyz> jordan_u: no luck with the bootinfo script process....
[06:24] <xangua> ripthejacker: well then you could start with the error dialogs of compiz and apport-gtk you mentioned earlier
[06:25] <ripthejacker> xangua: low level function calls and all. I have no idea where to start.
[06:26] <Beldar> mintyz, You following the bootscript pages commands exactly, can you detail the process you did exactly?
[06:27] <Beldar> mintyz, YOu have to unpack the download as well.
[06:27] <mintyz> beldar: downloaded the bootinfo script, unpacked at downloads folder, "  sudo ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript"
[06:29] <Beldar> mintyz, Check you made any mistakes I have done this many times and just now with no problem.
[06:30] <ripthejacker> xangua: JFYI , I'm using ubuntu 12.10
[06:30] <mintyz> beldar: I can just extract to the downloads section correct?
[06:30] <Beldar> mintyz, Download folder
[06:30] <ripthejacker> xangua: I'll try loggin in gnome with effects
[06:30] <mintyz> beldar: correct
[06:31] <mintyz> beldar: the folder after unpacking is bootinfoscript-061
[06:31] <mintyz> beldar: in the downloads folder
[06:32] <Beldar> mintyz, That is the tars name you want to see the bootinfoscript textextracted out
[06:32] <Beldar> text extracted*
[06:34] <mintyz> beldar: one sec beldar i think i got it :)
[06:35] <mintyz> beldar:  http://pastebin.com/hh0QbwGn
[06:36] <Beldar> Jordan_U, ^^^^
[06:36] <mintyz> or jordan....
[06:36] <Fudge> quick question, in unity launcher, the menu for an application like thunderbird/contacts compose mail etc, is that called a quick list?
[06:37] <Beldar> mintyz, I'm not real up on uefi, and all around the other user is more knowledgeable, and I have to take off shortly.
[06:38] <mintyz> beldar: no prob, thanks for the help :)
[06:38] <Beldar> no prob
[06:44] <sgo11> for lxde, after running lxpanelctl restart, I lost my desktop icons. I think they are managed by pcmanfm, right? how to get them back? thanks.
[06:45] <mintyz> jordan_u still there???
[06:46] <Beldar> sgo11, even after a logout or reboot?
[06:47] <sgo11> Beldar, logout will solve the problem. I am wondering how to bring it back without logout. :)
[06:47] <Beldar> sgo11, I figured as such, not sure of an answer is all.
[06:49] <utkarsh_> hello
[06:50] <utkarsh_> anyone tried running wvdial in ubuntu ?
[06:50] <kate`> hello hello
[06:50] <somsip> utkarsh_: what is your real question?
[06:50] <kate`> can rpc.nfsd be convinced to bind() to a particular IP, rather than to 0.0.0.0?
[06:52] <utkarsh_> wvdial is able to detect the modem and dial, but it is just resending the requests
[06:52] <utkarsh_> and then exiting
[06:54] <somsip> utkarsh_: this is a modem thing is it? Does it get a dial tone?
[06:54] <utkarsh_> ya it is a tata docom photon +
[06:54] <utkarsh_> I m trying to set up a PPP
[06:54] <somsip> utkarsh_: to where?
[06:55] <utkarsh_> it is dialer modem
[06:55] <utkarsh_> for internet 3 broadband
[06:55] <utkarsh_> connection
[06:55] <utkarsh_> i am able to connect to internet through network manager
[06:55] <somsip> utkarsh_: is this a company you pay for internet access?
[06:55] <utkarsh_> ya
[06:55] <somsip> utkarsh_: you may need to speak to their technical support
[06:56] <utkarsh_> ohk
[07:04] <cheryl_c> When I start my PC I get a "grub rescue" prompt.  I have no idea how to work with this or get back to Ubuntu. I just triedinstalling WIndows 7 before I got the error
[07:07] <somsip> cheryl_c: it is possible w7 has overwritten some of the grub files.
[07:07] <Cojak> ubuntu desktop , can be work as a server ?
[07:07] <somsip> !grub | cheryl_c
[07:07] <somsip> Cojak: what do you want it to server?
[07:07] <somsip> *serve
[07:09] <Cojak> somsip: have 5 pcs using ms software (windows) would like to install ubuntu on a separate machine and work as a server
[07:09] <somsip> Cojak: serving what?
[07:10] <Cojak> main derver (network) distribute to the 5 stations
[07:10] <somsip> !server | Cojak
[07:11] <somsip> Cojak: but it sounds like you just want it to work as a router with what you say. Which it will do
[07:12] <somsip> !server-network | Cojak
[07:13] <Cojak> somsip: assumed ubottu has right , actually that what am looking for , thanx
[07:18] <bhavesh> Sometimes when I get out of fullscreen YouTube videos, in Ubuntu 13.10, Google Chrome, the Unity panel and top bar are missing. I need to unmaximize Google Chrome to bring them back. Is this a reported bug? Are there any ways to fix it?
[07:22] <Guest30613> quiet today
[07:23] <Guest30613> My Hard Drive is experiencing some excessive Thrashing - any suggestions?
[07:25] <somsip> Guest30613: what does iotop tell you?
[07:25] <Guest30613> I should take a snapshot of that the next time the Thrashing happens?
[07:25] <somsip> Guest30613: it's not continuous then? Yes, try to find out what is causing it when it's happening
[07:27] <dshbusiness> Hi,all. I just download ubuntu 13.04 iso file. But I can't use dd to burn it into a usb disk.
[07:27] <dshbusiness> It always shows that I have 2 partitions.
[07:27] <Guest30613> Yes yesterday it was really bad,I did change the disk speed settings for power saving features.  But even after increasing the speed to max there was still a Thrashing issue
[07:28] <somsip> Guest30613: I would suggest trying to find out what is doing it while it's happening
[07:28] <SierraAR> What does 'thrashing' mean in this case?
[07:28] <dshbusiness> It always dd a gpt table on my usb disk.
[07:28] <Guest30613> yes good suggestion, thinking along the same lines
[07:28] <dshbusiness> Could anyone help?
[07:28] <Guest30613> Thrashing  is excessive disk accessing
[07:28] <somsip> dshbusiness: explain what process you are following
[07:29] <Guest30613> which can slow your computer down horribly
[07:29] <dshbusiness> Like this: dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/deb/sdb
[07:29] <dshbusiness> somsip: dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/deb/sdb
[07:29] <somsip> dshbusiness: and one more time with the correct destination...
[07:29] <nerdtron> dshbusiness: why would you dd ubuntu iso on flash drive?
[07:30] <Guest30613> Dont want my Hard Disk to blow up because of it lol
[07:30] <dshbusiness> somsip: What do you mean correct destination? sdb1?
[07:30] <dshbusiness> nerdtron: For installation.
[07:30] <somsip> dshbusiness: /dev... not /deb... but see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#dd_image_of_iso_file_to_USB_device_safely
[07:31] <dshbusiness> somsip: Sorry, my type mistake. It's dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb
[07:31] <nerdtron> dshbusiness: you don't have to dd the iso to create a bootable disk... you can use the startup disk creator for that..or unetbootin
[07:31] <demondevil> or lili if ur using windows
[07:32] <somsip> dshbusiness: that link I sent covers all eventualities. You need to be sudo if you do use dd though
[07:32] <somsip> s/be sudo/use/sudo
[07:32] <ripthejacker> nerdtron: I all had problems using startup disk creator, dd is hassle free
[07:32] <ripthejacker> *always
[07:33] <dshbusiness> somsip: In fact I have use dd for a long time. It always works fine. But recently, it does not work.
[07:33] <dshbusiness> somsip: I mean use dd to install ubuntu
[07:34] <dshbusiness> nerdtron: unetbootin cannot find right partition. It always let me use /dev/sdb2
[07:34] <somsip> dshbusiness: size of usb stick?
[07:34] <dshbusiness> 8.1GB
[07:34] <dshbusiness> And the iso is less than 1GB
[07:35] <somsip> dshbusiness: and can you paste the command you use and the error output (use paste.ubuntu.com)
[07:35] <ripthejacker> dshbusiness: delete all the partitions in the card, format as fat, and then try dd
[07:36] <dshbusiness> somsip: It does not report any error. dd returns on sucess. But when I reboot my computer, my BIOS cannot recognize the usb disk.
[07:37] <somsip> dshbusiness: I'm guessing that would be a bootable flag then
[07:37] <dshbusiness> When I use gnome's disk utility to check the usb disk. It has two patitions now.
[07:38] <somsip> dshbusiness: you say this used to work, like with old versions of ubuntu? Which version are you dding now?
[07:39] <somsip> dshbusiness: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25476/how-to-make-a-usb-drive-bootable-after-live-image-is-copied-into-it-using-dd-c?lq=1
[07:39] <dshbusiness> somsip: 13.04
[07:39] <somsip> dshbusiness: also, checksum the iso...
[07:39] <dshbusiness> somsip: md5sum has been checked.
[07:39] <dshbusiness> And it's right.
[07:39] <somsip> dshbusiness: http://askubuntu.com/questions/70303/cant-boot-after-a-dd-bios-reports-no-bootable-drives?rq=1
[07:40] <snufft> I'm trying to devise a way to check if a site has been injected with malware. the atacker always puts a div after </html> but the id of the div changes every time. Can i just pipe wget to grep and somehow only check if there's anything after </html>?
[07:40] <somsip> I'm just searching and throw stuff out here. I have no immediate answer but there seem to be a lot of others with similar issues so maybe you can find something in there
[07:40] <somsip> snufft: yes
[07:41] <demondevil> if u have windows installed or wine use this program
[07:41] <demondevil> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[07:41] <dshbusiness> somsip: I'll try. Thanks.
[07:41] <demondevil> best program i have used for making linux bootable usbs
[07:42] <dshbusiness> somsip: When I dd the iso to the usb disk, it will have an extra partition with partition type like this: "EFI (FAT-12/16/32)"
[07:43] <Jordan_U> demondevil: That's intentional and expected.
[07:43] <Jordan_U> demondevil: Is your boot firmware BIOS or UEFI?
[07:43] <somsip> Jordan_U: (dshbusiness I think)
[07:44] <demondevil> my bios isnt UEFI
[07:44] <dshbusiness> Jordan_U: It is a UEFI, but I turned UEFI down.
[07:44] <snufft> somsip, great! should i use grep/awk/sed or something else? my overall goal is just to find out if *anything* (except spaces and new lines) exists after </html> and then send an email to myself to tell me
[07:45] <dshbusiness> It was used windows 8 at first.
[07:45] <dshbusiness> It was using win8 at first.
[07:45] <dshbusiness> with uefi
[07:45] <somsip> snufft: You probably want to wrap something like this in a script with your email commands in a condition http://is.gd/jG1h1H Of course, you'll need the grep pattern too
[07:46] <snufft> somsip, no worries. thanks :)
[07:47] <Jordan_U> dshbusiness: Have you successfully booted from other USB drives on this machine?
[07:48] <dshbusiness> Once, but that bootable usb disk is made on another computer.
[07:49] <Jordan_U> dshbusiness: For most machines at this point you'll have better luck booting Ubuntu via UEFI than CSM (the firmware's BIOS implementation).
[07:49] <dshbusiness> Jordan_U: You mean I should open my uefi?
[07:49] <rww> Jordan_U: what does CSM stand for?
[07:49] <dshbusiness> I'll try. Thanks:)
[07:50] <Jordan_U> rww: Compatability Support Module
[07:50] <rww> thanks
[07:50] <Jordan_U> rww: You're welcome.
[07:58] <glenford> hey guys how to join fedora channel
[07:58] <glenford> for ambassadors
[07:58] <somsip> !alis | glenford
[07:58] <Raven> I frequently use Skype and I sometimes want to use it from two different rooms, but using the same machine. If I connect two webcams to the same machine, running Ubuntu, what will happen? Is there a way I can switch from one webcam to the next?
[07:59] <glenford> thanks
[07:59] <ahren> i installed ubuntu over the network and i installed also the xubuntu packages  how am i able to get a choice as to which window manager to use at startup?
[07:59] <somsip> ahren: doesn't it show you a choice on the login screen? Id the login screen enabled
[07:59] <somsip> ?
[07:59] <ahren> no
[07:59] <somsip> ahren: enable it, logout, try again
[08:00] <ahren> i checked ubuntu and xubuntu packages and it won't give me a login screen only the login screen for xubuntu
[08:00] <ahren> how do i do that
[08:00] <ezra-s> Raven, it will depend on the client, probably client can only be configured to use one cam at a time, use different clients, that is not an ubuntu question btw
[08:00] <somsip> ahren: not sure - long time since I've done this. Somewhere in settings there will be a 'log in without password' or something similar. That bypasses lightdm login IIRC, if it's ticked.
[08:01] <Raven> ezra-s should I post in #linux?
[08:01] <ezra-s> Raven, I told you the answer
[08:02] <ezra-s> Raven, if you want to use skype you probably can't run it twice in the same session with the same user, so run it with two different users, configure the skype for each user to a different cam, problem solved
[08:02] <ezra-s> linux/ubuntu won't have problems detecting your usb devices plugged into it
[08:03] <ezra-s> another matter are the drivers, but I bet most cams are handled well
[08:03]  * hipitihop waves @ glitsj16 notes the hiding from hipitihop in fear, after yesterday's marathon
[08:03] <Raven> ezra-s so you're suggesting I make a separate user, so that I can do a second session, wherein I will run a second instance of skype
[08:04] <ezra-s> Raven, if Skype can't use two cams that is, I don't know skype sorry
[08:04] <Raven> ezra-s That is a good suggestion and I don't see why it wouldn't work... only I wish there were an easier way. Like a toggle switch utility, almost.
[08:04] <ezra-s> Raven, I'm guessing skype can't use two devices, in either case the problem won't be the OS, but the client
[08:04] <dw-> In gedit when I'm modifying a file over an FTP connection that I don't have write permission for if I try to save it says "Operation Failed" then crashes.  I then must do a killall gedit at terminal before it works again.  xkill alone doesn't do the trick.  Is this a known bug?  Where should I report it?
[08:05] <somsip> dw-: gedit requires X doesn't it? Use a text-only editor. Fix your permissions first. Maybe you mean SSH and not FTP...?
[08:05] <ezra-s> Raven, maybe there are alternatives to Skype which can do what you want, do some research, aka "internet search"
[08:06] <dw-> somsip: it's a nautilus ftp connection.  works fine when i fix permissions but if I don't check them manually first then I risk crashing and losing my whole workspace/tabs
[08:07] <ahren> somsip, it has been a while since i used ubuntu what would i have to search for in google
[08:07] <somsip> dw-: ah - fair enough. That does sound buggy.
[08:07]  * hipitihop reboots to try 12.04.3 live cd brb
[08:07] <glitsj16> hipitihop: hi again :) .. not hiding ... worse: gf windows machine trouble
[08:07] <ahren> somsip, what is the name of the theme manager
[08:07] <somsip> ahren: no idea. I don't use it
[08:07] <Raven> ezra-s I understand and agree, and believe me I'm certain there are clients that can do it, there are far more capable alternatives to skype but ultimately I find most don't work as well, and none are as user friendly for the other party
[08:07] <DF3D2> does anyone else have an issue where any kernel after .12 has no usb mouse/kb functionality?
[08:08] <DF3D2> .13 .14 .15 all have this issue
[08:08] <hipitihop> glitsj16, :-) eek, brb
[08:08] <Raven> ezra-s but I'll keep digging
[08:11] <ahren> somsip, this seems to be a good answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/111400/can-i-install-unity-aside-with-xfce-and-switch-them-as-i-want
[08:11] <somsip> ahren: I don't need links. I don't have the problem
[08:29] <glitsj16> hipitihop: did you do anymore work/research on the headset issue?
[08:30] <ahren> what do most people use here xubuntu or regular ubuntu with unity or kde
[08:30] <iceroot> ahren: regular ubuntu
[08:30] <rww> this is #ubuntu not #xubuntu or #kubuntu, so... probably Debian
[08:30] <hipitihop> glitsj16, sigh yes, most of the day again, I feel I have so much time invested in the issue I hate to let it go at this point without understanding why
[08:31] <ahren> my system is a little older should i still run the newest ubuntu?
[08:31] <Bender> Hey all. So, I have recently beeng getting this weird problem. And it seems to be happening more frequently now. My computer will randomly freeze up and my wifi fails. Then the screen may unfreeze for a moment or to and then freeze again. Then it remains unresponsive until I force the computer off. Can anyone help with this?
[08:31] <ahren> also i only have 2gb ram so i can still use the 32bit version right
[08:31] <rww> ahren: yes, and yes
[08:31] <glitsj16> hipitihop: understandable, but not much progress i take it?
[08:31] <Bender> ahren: I think you need 32 gb of ram
[08:31] <iceroot> ahren: if your cpu supports 64bit you should use the amd64 version
[08:31] <Bender> hence it being 32 bit
[08:31] <Bender> DUHHH
[08:32] <Bender> ....jk
[08:32] <hipitihop> glitsj16, no solution yet, but more interesting information, I did image my machine overnight to prepare to upgrade to 13.10...
[08:33] <hipitihop> glitsj16, then somene here, I think Bender, suggested, running the 13.10 live cd is not 100% proof that upgrade would solve the problem...
[08:34] <lucious77> hello, anyone can tell current mir/u8 state for 14.04 ? installation the same as for 13.10 ?
[08:34] <iceroot> lucious77: #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <hipitihop> glitsj16, the suggestion was, try the same with 12.04.3 live , so after fluffing about, more downloads etc, I did, and suprise, it also works on 12.04.3
[08:35] <hipitihop> glitsj16, so interesting info, but that leaves the $64k question, why
[08:35] <glitsj16> hipitihop: so that points to a configuration issue then it seems hmm
[08:36] <glitsj16> hipitihop: is the hid-generic (iirc) module getting properly loaded ?
[08:36] <hipitihop> glitsj16, indeed, so I just booted back again to the 12.04.3 live, and took some more detailed traces into pastebin so we can compare to installed 12.04.3
[08:36] <mindbender1> I'm having problems similar to http://askubuntu.com/questions/316778/ubuntu-13-04-cant-login-to-unity-keep-going-back-to-login-screen-with-all-us
[08:36] <glitsj16> hipitihop: detective at work heh, good idea
[08:37] <mindbender1> the solutions there don't work for me. This is happening soon after upgrading to 13.04
[08:38] <mindbender1> I initially had only gnome panel showing but after enabling unity with ccsm unity started appearing alongside gnome-panel
[08:39] <hipitihop> glitsj16, give me a sec as I did a question and bug entry yesterday so I will update with latest pastbin links and then will point you
[08:39] <glitsj16> hipitihop: sure, slept like a log so i think i've a fresher look than yesterday halfway thru the marathon
[08:40] <uczen> ;)
[08:40] <mindbender1> I later did a dconf reset -f /org/compiz that's when my problem started
[08:41] <hipitihop> glitsj16, sounds good, although I'm on a promise to step away from the keyboard a bit today so won't getaway with much tinkering. You might have to just post comment on bug/answers
[08:42] <glitsj16> hipitihop: no problem, that windows machine needs some attention here too so forum posts suits me fine
[08:43] <hipitihop> glitsj16, simple suggestion for that windows machine, install ubuntu :-)
[08:44] <glitsj16> hipitihop: haha, i did make it dual-boot .. promises/compromises .. she games on it quite
[08:45] <glitsj16> hipitihop: she likes and feels at home in ubuntu, but for games it became a real mess
[08:45] <hipitihop> glitsj16, roll on steamOS
[08:46] <glitsj16> hipitihop: that's on the to-do list yes, also one of these hybrid GPU machines, so i've been putting it off to be honest
[08:46] <Codex_> hello
[08:51] <hardboot_> so i have the sidebar on auto hide, is it possible to make reval more sensitive?
[08:52] <hardboot_> i have the slider maxed but it's still pretty pokey
[08:52] <hipitihop> glitsj16, see my comments at bottom of question with latest pastebin links from live 12.04.3 is https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/241760
[08:53] <hipitihop> glitsj16, correspnding bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1266343
[08:53] <glitsj16> hardboot_: yes, it's a setting you can manipulate in ccsm i believe (compizconfig-settings-manager)
[08:54] <hardboot_> glitsj16: heh, forgot abotu that, was using tweak tool
[08:54] <glitsj16> hipitihop: thanks, i'll take a look after lunch and post if i have any input
[08:54] <hipitihop> glitsj16, cheers, good luck with windows machine. My phone will let me know if you post in the forums so I can come back to keyboard if you have an epiphany
[08:55] <glitsj16> hipitihop: deal, i rarely have them but who knows
[08:58] <Codexx> hello everyone
[08:58] <uronu> hello how to input a new password via webmin command shell
[08:58] <uronu> it directly input no password
[08:59] <uronu> this is my command shell script in webmin "smbpasswd -r server -U uername
[08:59]  * FiLoSsOfIe hello
[09:01] <ikonia> uronu: webmin is not supported with ubuntu
[09:02] <uronu> ikonia: sorry, thanks.
[09:03] <Kiaas> is which version of fglrx is 2:13.125-0ubuntu1? is it 13.12, or is it an older version that got its name mangled by your versioning system?
[09:04] <ikonia> Kiaas: there is no 13:12 version
[09:04] <Kiaas> 13.12 is the current version on AMD's site
[09:04] <ikonia> Kiaas: yes, but there is no 13.12 version of ubuntu
[09:04] <ikonia> Kiaas: ooh, I see what your asking
[09:04] <Kiaas> then which version is that 13.125?
[09:04] <ikonia> Kiaas: sorry, I thought you where asking which version of ubuntu does it ship with
[09:05] <Kiaas> is it at least 13.9?
[09:05] <ikonia> Kiaas: no idea, query the package info and see if it tells you (I doubt it)
[09:09] <snufft> alright, who wants to help me write some bash? :P
[09:09] <nerdtron> snufft: what do you want to write?
[09:09] <DJones> snufft: Thats probably a good question to ask in ##bash
[09:10] <somsip> snufft: so. You return...
[09:10] <snufft> :O !! there's a ##bash?!
[09:10] <snufft> somsip, yes :(
[09:10] <DJones> snufft: Pretty sure, may only be #bash, but I'm pretty sure its a double # channel
[09:10] <snufft> nerdtron, i need to scan a website for occurrance of html after </html>
[09:10] <Bender> snufft: It's not what you think. It's an abused woman's support chat
[09:11] <snufft> Bender, that's dark :P
[09:11] <Bender> :)
[09:11] <snufft> I like it :P
[09:12] <somsip> snufft: have you sorted your grep pattern out yet?
[09:14] <snufft> somsip, i switched to awk. Then it's just awk -F "</html>" '{print $2}'
[09:14] <somsip> snufft: so what do you need to write?
[09:14] <somsip> snufft: and will awk work if there is a newline between </html> and the dodgy code?
[09:15] <snufft> somsip, it should. i can curl -s http://www.google.com | awk -F "</html>" '{print $2}' | awk -F "<" '{print $2}'
[09:16] <snufft> that way it'll just look for the next <
[09:16] <somsip> snufft: I don't know awk well so will leave that to you. What do you need to write then?
[09:19] <snufft> somsip, i don't need to write anything. i need to send myself an email if there's output
[09:19] <snufft> i thought i could bash sendmail?
[09:19] <somsip> snufft: you can. man sendmail to find out how. If it's installed. If not, sendEmail is a simple wrapper for SMTP based email
[09:20] <ikonia> sendmail is not the default mta on ubuntu
[09:20] <somsip> snufft: ikonia I do tend to use sendEmail for simple stuff like this
[09:20] <maedox> snufft, somsip: apt-get install postfix mailutils && mail -s subject recipient@domain <<< "mail body"
[09:22] <JohnnyL> hi, what is a good, safe, reliable and hard drive friendly (pictures) LAMP web provider?
[09:24] <allu2> JohnnyL: I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask that :S
[09:24] <somsip> maedox: I used to sending from Amazon instances which are usually blocked from direct sending, but thanks for the postfix suggestion. Looks easier than sendmail...
[09:26] <maedox> somsip: there's no blocking on Amazon instances other than what you block yourself. You might however get into trouble with the recipients SMTP because of SPF records and whatnot. It usually works fine though.
[09:28] <snufft> maedox, i'll give it a shot, thanks!
[09:28] <snufft> somsip, is sendEmail available from bash?
[09:29] <somsip> maedox: snufft yes, it's a small cli program
[09:29] <somsip> !info sendEmail | snufft
[09:31] <snufft_android> somsip cheers :)
[09:31] <somsip> maedox: spamhaus blocking all of EC2 address were a problem in the past. Maybe this has changed. OT anyway
[09:33] <utkarsh_> hi
[09:33] <maedox> somsip: ah, yes, that might be a problem of course. I use the eu-west AZ's and haven't had any trouble, but I changed to using a Google Apps account for sending emails a while back.
[09:35] <utkarsh_> I have recently been back to ubuntu after a long time, I did a fresh install but I am getting a lot cpu utilisation and high temperatures even when I am only opening firefox
[09:35] <beza> hai guise
[09:35] <ikonia> utkarsh_: look at what's eating the cpu
[09:36] <ikonia> beza: "guys"
[09:36] <Gallomimia> utkarsh_: facebook open?
[09:36] <utkarsh_> ohk i ran htop
[09:36] <utkarsh_> I am see wvdial --chat
[09:36] <utkarsh_> taking up all the cpu
[09:36] <utkarsh_> utilisaiton
[09:36] <FloodBot1> utkarsh_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:37] <Gallomimia> annoying floodbot is annoying :(
[09:37] <utkarsh_> ohk
[09:38] <Gallomimia> so, what is that process? (google might help) i'm not familiar with it
[09:38] <ikonia> legacy modem
[09:38] <Gallomimia> ew
[09:38] <Gallomimia> are you on a dialup connection?
[09:39] <Gallomimia> utkarsh_: do you have a modem?  are you using it?
[09:40] <utkarsh_> ya I tried using wvdial
[09:40] <cheryl_c> does boot repair actually work?
[09:40] <Gallomimia> well, my first instinct is to say "kill it" but that will probably disconnect you :)
[09:40] <Asitha> does anyone know how to setup ipv6 properly on ubuntu? I'm completely stuck :(
[09:40] <cheryl_c> Does boot repair actually work?
[09:41] <ikonia> Asitha: define properly, the network-manager interface does it just fine normally
[09:41] <utkarsh_> ya I killed it now my cpu is back. I did a fresh install of Ubuntu in my Dell laptop but my laptop gets heated up abnormally, even when the cpu utilisation is low
[09:41] <ezra-s> Asitha, it's simple, ubuntu has network-manager, select your network interface, go to it's configuration, there should be a ipv6 tab
[09:42] <Asitha> I had recently moved from bluehost to my own vps and noticed a huge delay when I started using facebook authentication
[09:42] <Asitha> After various steps, when I disabled ipv6, the delay was gone and things were running fine again
[09:42] <Asitha> Which leads me to believe there is some misconfiguration there that is causing the issue
[09:42] <ikonia> Asitha: your reasoning is false
[09:43] <Asitha> I've also tried to use ping6 and it can't seem to connect to any host
[09:44] <ikonia> you've just disabled ipv6 - how do you expect it to work
[09:44] <Asitha> I reenabled it and was testing it again
[09:44] <ikonia> Asitha: do you have valid IPV6 networking information ?
[09:45] <ikonia> Asitha: eg: a valid IPV6 IP for the network you ar eon
[09:45] <ikonia> are on
[09:45] <Asitha> yeah
[09:45] <Asitha> I have 3 ipv6 addresses
[09:46] <ikonia> Asitha: I'm assuming you also have IPv4 addresses running on the same machine
[09:46] <Asitha> yes
[09:46] <ikonia> Asitha: ok, so I'd be looking at your ipv6 gateway as a starting point
[09:47] <Asitha> What should I be looking for there?
[09:48] <ikonia> Asitha: a valid and reachable gateway
[09:48] <ikonia> Asitha: this will make sure it's not trying to push the ipv6 out of the ipv4 gateway (if the ipv4 gateway can't handle that)
[09:48] <ezra-s> Asitha, is your network interface configured to dhcp for ipv6?
[09:49] <Asitha> static I believe
[09:49] <ezra-s> Asitha, and how and why did you choose to configure 3 different ipv6 addresses? where did you get those?
[09:49] <Asitha> I didn't choose it - I just noticed it was there when I got the server
[09:49] <Asitha> My host was the one that provided it
[09:50] <ikonia> if you don't need it why are you using it
[09:50] <Asitha> Well for one thing - I want to be able to have it working instead of disabling it completely
[09:50] <ikonia> if it's causing you a problem disable it and forget about it
[09:51] <ikonia> Asitha: why do you want it working if you're using ipv4
[09:51] <Asitha> Better to learn now, than to wait for it become popular and me becoming outdated :P
[09:51] <Asitha> Also, I felt guilty when I posted on serverfault
[09:51] <Asitha> and some guy was like "don't pretend the issue doesn't exist"
[09:51] <Asitha> -_-
[09:51] <ikonia> Asitha: then talk to your hosting provider and ask for details on their network
[09:51] <Asitha> So I decided to try and figure out the fix
[09:51] <ikonia> Asitha: your trying to configure something with no understanding of the network
[09:52] <ikonia> "I don't know it was there when I bought it" is not enough to know how to configure it properly
[09:52] <ezra-s> I'm with ikonia, to solve it you need to understand it a bit
[09:53] <Asitha> I guess you both are right
[09:54] <ikonia> Asitha: your host should be able to give you the information to configure it, or give you the information so you can figure out what's wrong
[09:55] <Asitha> Alright - I'll just open a ticket and see what they can figure out
[09:55] <Asitha> or at least pass on to me
[09:55] <merandus> Hello, i have messed up my sources.list  file. in this generator: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/  should i avoid ticking the source packages and backports?
[09:55] <kismat_4u> hi
[09:56] <dreinull> Somebody seeding the ubuntu torrents and also seeing lots and lots of peers with the same ip (+subnet) leeching
[09:56] <kismat_4u> hi all
[09:57] <dreinull> They're sucking up all my bandwidth and doing some research shows they are not even completing their dl
[09:57] <kismat_4u> any cute girl wana talk
[09:57] <ezra-s> Asitha, 1º for your own host 1 ip should be fine, so having 3 is of no use to you unless you have specific needs. Ip's are usually assigned via dhcp, or assigned manually, in most cases ipv6 addresses are just local so they won't reach anywhere or just the lan they are in, not internet. If you had issues connecting somewhere and you found disabling ipv6 solved it , chances are the software you used tried to connect via ipv6 first and ipv6 is not conn
[09:57] <ezra-s> ected to internet
[09:57] <ikonia> kismat_4u: that is not what this channel is for
[09:57] <ikonia> !topic | kismat_4u
[09:57] <kismat_4u> any u want
[09:58] <ikonia> kismat_4u: this is NOT the channel for that sort of chat
[09:58] <Asitha> Thanks ezra-s
[09:58] <kismat_4u> ok then which one is for that?
[09:58] <ikonia> kismat_4u: ask in #freenode
[09:59] <kismat_4u> channel?
[09:59] <ikonia> kismat_4u: #freenode is the channel
[10:01] <kismat_4u> ok thanx
[10:01] <JohnnyL> allu2: ok how about any recommendations please?
[10:01] <rajrajraj> ehat is wheezy and sqeexy
[10:01] <rajrajraj> what*
[10:01] <rajrajraj> ?
[10:01] <ikonia> ubuntu releases
[10:01] <rajrajraj> sqeezy*
[10:09] <trat7> Does Ubuntu 12.04 Server come with a firewall that is enabled? or Do I need to enable it meself?
[10:15] <merandus> I'm trying to do apt-get update with the new sources.list file, it throws me lots of error with gpg keys.
[10:17] <kostkon> merandus, install this package:  ubuntu-keyring   obviously ignore the key warnings on this one
[10:17] <merandus> kostkon: ok just a sec
[10:19] <merandus> kostkon: it says it's already installed and newest version.  it says 66  not updated though
[10:19] <merandus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708309/
[10:19] <merandus> thats what i get for apt-get update
[10:22] <kostkon> merandus, you could try sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring --reinstall && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:23] <kostkon> merandus, now that you have a sources.list file you could try to select a different mirror in updater settings
[10:24] <karooga> Hi, I'm trying to find a build log for saucy:openocd, but it says it was cancelled: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/openocd/0.7.0-1
[10:24] <karooga> How can that be
[10:26] <llutz> merandus: "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'"   wait a while until the us-mirror is available again or use a different mirror
[10:26] <pikaren> windows + cygwin  or  ubuntu  ??
[10:27] <llutz> pikaren: for?
[10:27] <pikaren> programming
[10:27] <merandus> llutz: oh so the problem is with the mirrors?
[10:28] <merandus> i ping 8.8.8.8 and it replies so my connection should be working
[10:29] <llutz> merandus: "dig +short us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[10:33] <merandus> llutz: connection times out
[10:33] <llutz> merandus: "dig @8.8.8.8 +short us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[10:34] <merandus> llutz: i get some IP numbers it seems
[10:34] <llutz> merandus: check your dns-server
[10:35] <merandus> llutz: how can i do that?
[10:37] <merandus> llutz: should i edit resolv.conf?
[10:37] <llutz> merandus: how is your network configured? router -> dhcp or static ips?
[10:37] <ezra-s> merandus, in default ubuntu resolv.conf is dynamically generated so if you use dhcp I recommend against it
[10:37] <merandus> llutz: it's a vps, hosted by EXSI
[10:38] <merandus> vmware EXSI it seems. the vps provider is using
[10:38] <ezra-s> merandus, if you use dhcp use /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf instead
[10:38] <llutz> merandus: add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head  and run "sudo resolvconf -u" then
[10:39] <llutz> merandus: or edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and set "prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8;"
[10:39] <llutz> merandus: use any dns-server ip you want, 8.8.8.8 is google but there are other
[10:39] <merandus> llutz: should i do both of those? or just one.
[10:39] <llutz> merandus: one
[10:40] <merandus> llutz: ok  on it
[10:40] <ezra-s>  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is dynamic if using dhcp
[10:41] <llutz> ezra-s: base is, head shouldn't. or am i wrong?
[10:41] <merandus> well, i don't know how vmware EXSI works, so, i assume i'll be doing the second one
[10:41] <ezra-s> llutz, #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[10:41] <llutz> ezra-s: thats the statement to appear in /etc/rsolv.conf later
[10:41] <ezra-s> llutz, lol, sorry
[10:42] <llutz> ezra-s: head is just copied to generate resolv.conf file
[10:42] <ezra-s> llutz, thanks, that clarifies it :)
[10:44] <khaotix> hi i am trying to update from 13.04 -> 13.10 and in the updates menu there is no upgrade button, i have checked and the settings are ok for getting new upgrades and non-lts.
[10:44] <merandus> ok,  editted dhcclient.conf. should i run any commands now?
[10:45] <llutz> merandus: sudo dhclient ethX
[10:46] <ezra-s> llutz, there should be one working already, shouldn't he kill that one first? or restart networking/network manager instead?
[10:47] <khaotix> hi i am trying to update from 13.04 -> 13.10 and in the updates menu there is no upgrade button, i have checked and the settings are ok for getting new upgrades and non-lts.
[10:47] <merandus> sudo: unable to resolve <myhostname>
[10:47] <llutz> merandus: grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf
[10:48] <merandus> llutz: nothing found
[10:48] <merandus> by hat i mean  i got the prompt again, so nothing probably is there
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> merandus: normally ubuntu adds an entry in /etc/hosts    wuth 127.0.1.1 <your hostname>                       have you changed your hostname since installing?
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> with*
[10:51] <merandus> hitsujiTMO: the vps provider installed the OS today, i didn't change anything.
[10:52] <hitsujiTMO> merandus: you should add that entry yourself to remove that error.
[10:52] <queretaro> Hi there. I have a machine running Precise Pangolin, and when I issue "uname -r" it appears I'm using the 3.2.0-23 kernel. However, when I do "dpkg -l linux-*" it appears I have a newer kernel that I'm not running. Why is this happening? Shouldn't it be using the latest version available?
[10:53] <kostkon> queretaro, explanation is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[10:53] <merandus> hitsujiTMO: which error? the sudo dhclient eth0 one?
[10:53] <hitsujiTMO> queretaro: when you boot, are you booting with grub from another install?
[10:54] <hitsujiTMO> merandus: this one: <merandus> sudo: unable to resolve <myhostname>
[10:54] <queretaro> kostkon: thanks!
[10:54] <queretaro> hitsujiTMO: I'm using default GRUB installation
[10:55] <varunendra> queretaro, not the latest, until you manually choose to, but even by default you certainly should have a higher kernel installed and in use
[10:56] <Beldar> queretaro, No other linux OS's right?
[10:56] <queretaro> varunendra: I must say that I'm using a Vagrant box that might be somewhat old. However, I ran apt-get update & apt-get upgrade to see if aptitude upgraded the kernel
[10:57] <varunendra> queretaro, does dpkg list that entry with "ii" prefix (first column)?
[10:57] <varunendra> and which version is that
[10:57] <caring_ish_> hello, I have a malicious package on my system I need to purge. What is the command for purging from the terminal?
[10:57] <merandus> hitsujiTMO: i have 127.0.0.1 localhost at the top of the hosts file
[10:57] <varunendra> caring_ish_, "sudo apt-get purge <package name>"
[10:58] <caring_ish_> gracias varunendra
[10:58] <queretaro> varunendra: linux-firmware linux-headers-3.2.0-30 linux-headers-3.2.0-30-generic linux-headers-server linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic linux-image-server linux-libc-dev linux-server
[10:58] <ezra-s> caring_ish_, what's the name of the malicious package If I may ask
[10:58] <merandus> hitsujiTMO: should i replace it with 127.0.1.1 vpsgroups-216  ?
[10:58] <caring_ish_> ezra-s, the malicious package is named "Maas"
[10:58] <hitsujiTMO> merandus: add: 127.0.1.1 yourhostname                                              or if you have a static ip you could add: static.i.p.address yourhostname
[10:59] <hitsujiTMO> merandus: dont replace, add it
[10:59] <kostkon> !find maas
[10:59] <kostkon> !info maas
[10:59] <merandus> hitsujiTMO: i have a static ip, so i will enter that one.
[10:59] <carlitos69> LIST *programming*
[10:59] <ezra-s> does not sound like malicious :P
[10:59] <varunendra> queretaro, I believe you should have at least 3.2.0-47 or 50something..
[11:00] <caring_ish_> ezra-s, it's suggesting everything is dependent on it & it's an optional package which is not able to be uninstalled
[11:00] <llutz> merandus: static ip, thus you have to change resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head   to change your dns. thats why no nameserver entry is found
[11:01] <varunendra> queretaro, please show us the output (pastebin link) of : "apt-cache show linux-image-3* | grep Version" ... after an update (sudo apt-get update)
[11:01] <ezra-s> caring_ish_, ok, I was just wondering, thanks
[11:01] <merandus> llutz: ok i edited the head now gonna add the static ip to the hosts file and do sudio resolvconf -u
[11:01] <caring_ish_> ezra-s, it's also suggesting itself an "Unauthorized Package" in the Update Manager
[11:02] <queretaro> varunendra: here you go - http://hastebin.com/necojunida.avrasm
[11:02] <llutz> merandus: yes, check "grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf" after that again
[11:02] <queretaro> varunendra: so yes, apt knows about newer kernels
[11:02] <queretaro> hm
[11:03] <hitsujiTMO> queretaro: can you pastebin the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:04] <queretaro> hitsujiTMO: sure - http://hastebin.com/goxajukuqi.coffee
[11:04] <queretaro> hitsujiTMO: now I see it, it's the only entry
[11:05] <queretaro> so I should probably run "grub-update" or something like that (if it exists)
[11:05] <hitsujiTMO> queretaro: that should still get updated when a new kernel is installed
[11:05] <merandus> oh wow.  it worked, can get packages from ubuntu now
[11:05] <merandus> you guys are awesome;thanks
[11:06] <varunendra> hehe, someone experienced the open source support for the first time it seems :P
[11:07] <queretaro> hitsujiTMO: that'd be the expected behaviour
[11:07] <thokern> anyone experienced with lightdm and mythbuntu [12.04 LTS] >> only ubuntu splashscreen, no greeter of lightdm, can be started over SSH with initctl start lightdm????
[11:08] <merandus> varunendra: ye it's p good
[11:08] <Gallomimia> quick question: HFS+ mounted on ubuntu is r/o only? no way to write to the disk?
[11:09] <ezra-s> Gallomimia, that depends on kernel driver support afaik
[11:09] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: you need to disable the journal in os x on it before you can mount it as rw
[11:09] <Gallomimia> ew. doesn't that mean a format?
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: no, afaik, but its not someyhing i'd do
[11:10] <varunendra> queretaro, what do we have for "apt-cache show linux-image-generic | grep Version" ?
[11:10] <merandus> well, in my /root i have some .tar.gz files that i have no idea what they are, could be something that vps provider support put them there, besides google is there a command to find out what they are?
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> queretaro: does running: sudo update-grub                  update grub to the latest kernel?
[11:11] <llutz> Gallomimia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[11:11] <queretaro> varunendra: only 23-0 and 30-0. however, I just purged the 30-0 kernel and apt automatically installed the latest one (58-generic)
[11:11] <varunendra> queretaro, as a side note, is there a particular reason why you are using root ??
[11:11] <hitsujiTMO> merandus: untar them and see if they have a readme
[11:11] <caring_ish_> ok, now I am trying to update to 13.04, though the update manager is attempting to set the upgrade to 13.10
[11:11] <varunendra> queretaro, congrats for that :)
[11:12] <Gallomimia> ah. that should help llutz. thanks hitsujiTMO
[11:12] <queretaro> varunendra: I use root because I don't like sudoing all the time. Also, I got used to it when I used Slackware, and I also believe it's a good practice (with the right knowledge & responsability)
[11:13] <varunendra> queretaro, well.. your machine, your choice. But I hope you know the risks.
[11:14] <Beldar> !root | queretaro
[11:14] <queretaro> varunendra: same as using sudo for everything
[11:14] <Beldar> queretaro, Not in ubuntu.
[11:15] <Gallomimia> queretaro: if you really want to avoid sudo all the time, use a root prompt. sudo -i or similar tools
[11:16] <queretaro> I usually sudo su, but yes. What I like about sudo is that it logs what it's been done
[11:16] <Gallomimia> adding a root password opens risks. no root password, no root login. unless it's actually a server and you want to ssh in as root. more risks...
[11:17] <Gallomimia> you could try sudo -i to get the root prompt, and start with script myfile.txt
[11:17] <Gallomimia> then you really get a record of everything that's been done
[11:17] <kay______> i sudo bash
[11:18] <Gallomimia> i'm assuming sudo script would give similar results
[11:19] <jules12345> Kann mir vielleicht jemand helfen mit ubuntu 13.10 und den mit einem humax hd nano aufgenommenen daten
[11:20] <Beldar> caring_ish_, What release are you on now?
[11:20] <llutz> !de | jules12345
[11:20] <Gallomimia> thanks again for the HFS+ tip guys. now i can chown the whole volume, and copy files locally over USB3, instead of sending it over gbE and then USB2
[11:21] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: any such change affects osx too
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: the chowning that is
[11:22] <Wobbo> Any idea why Wine, Wine config even, stuck at 13.10? With all my other Ubuntu, I have no other (also 13.10), do not have this problem.
[11:23] <Gallomimia> yeah. stupid uid mismatch :(
[11:23] <Gallomimia> it's easier to format the drive and install unbuntu than worry about that crap.
[11:23] <Gallomimia> i can chown it back later, but the gid should make it okay
[11:23] <Gallomimia> i think the volume is still r/o
[11:24] <caring_ish_> Beldar, I'm using 12.10 now
[11:25] <Gallomimia> guess i have no idea what i'm doing when it comes to mounting this disk
[11:27] <welly> Hi all - I've got an ubuntu server installation set up and i cannot for the life of me ssh in to the server with any new users I create
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: so you've disabled the journal in osx right?
[11:27] <Gallomimia> yeah that went off without a hitch
[11:27] <welly> I keep getting permission denied (publickey) - when I do ssh -v user@host the only error I can see is "roaming not allowed by server"
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: whats the command you're using to mount it in ubuntu?
[11:28] <Gallomimia> and the chown went with no error
[11:28] <Gallomimia> no command. just plug it in
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: can you pastebin output of: mount
[11:29] <Gallomimia> i've been playing with mount options under disks... i set it back to auto.... now i output it
[11:30] <sandrahey> please help, i have a ubuntu 12.04 laptop that all of a sudden boot into a termal, the desktop does not show
[11:30] <Gallomimia> heh. how about just the line pertaining to that disk? it's a mile long...
[11:30] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: that'll do
[11:30] <Gallomimia> not the only hfs+ drive i have mounted :/
[11:31] <Gallomimia>   /dev/sdf1 on /media/gallomimia/tyche type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[11:31] <Gallomimia> says rw.
[11:31] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: it is mounted as rw, so must be a permission issue
[11:31] <Gallomimia> chmod seems to have worked
[11:32] <Gallomimia> er, chown
[11:32] <Beldar> caring_ish_, Can you run this and post it cat /etc/issue
[11:33] <caring_ish_> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[11:33] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: you still have net access on that machine?
[11:33] <smooki> hi
[11:33] <Beldar> caring_ish_, Are you sure you reloaded your sources with 12.10?
[11:34] <smooki> I'd like to install jetBrains IDE, it's an archive with bin/ lib/ etc, where should I extract it ? /usr/local/ ?
[11:34] <Gallomimia> hitsujiTMO: terminal has no trouble. just the gui
[11:34] <caring_ish_> Beldar, I altered the sources.list file. It was loaded with the past repository info
[11:35] <Beldar> caring_ish_, Sorry I have you confused with another user, as far as reloading can you pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:35] <caring_ish_> Beldar, I had to comment "#" the past repository info
[11:36] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, yes i have , its next to me, i was reading this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2106116 its the same situation i have
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: can you try: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[11:37] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, ok, what will that install?
[11:38] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: thats a tool that will allow you to easily upload logs so we can see where the problem is
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: once thats installed, please run: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log                        then type the url it generates here
[11:40] <Gallomimia> next question: the best way to share specific directories in r/o mode with windows computers on my network is _______
[11:40] <mindbender1> gnome-panel is interfering with unity on my system. If I uninstall gnome-panle my system enteres a login loop. What can I do?
[11:42] <mindbender1> I have been on this issue for hours. Help needed.
[11:43] <Gallomimia> mindbender1: i'm sorry i can't help you, but i'm going to suggest two things, uninstall or reconfigure unity. and research where the system looks for "how to login" and fix what must be broken there.
[11:44] <Gallomimia> alternately you could try CTRL-F# where numbers are different screens, which should have different logins
[11:44] <Gallomimia> F7 is the default login screen i think
[11:44] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, ok, thanks, first i have to get my networking to run on my "broken" laptop
[11:45] <Gallomimia> ctrl+alt+F#
[11:45] <caring_ish_> http://pastebin.com/v3JP5dbc
[11:45] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, if i plugin a network cable while its booted in the terminal , will the network auto connect?
[11:46] <Gallomimia> should, if you have dhcp server on your network. routers do this
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: it should
[11:47] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, ok thanks , according to the article it looks like its got something to do with the NVIDIA driver
[11:48] <mindbender1> Gallomimia: thanks for the suggestions.
[11:48] <Beldar> caring_ish_, Looks basically okay I would remove all the other releases commented out, not sure why your upgrade would be going to 13.10 rather than 13.04.
[11:49] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: yes, that would be my first guess too. the Xorg.0.log should give us more info on what exactly is going wrong
[11:49] <ohmy> Bonjour
[11:49] <ohmy> hi
[11:50] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, ok, pastebinit is installed
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: please run: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log                        then type the url it generates here
[11:50] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, ok
[11:52] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708657/
[11:52] <ijulian> hello. sorry for my bad enlish. do you know how can I enable trim in ubuntu during the installation?
[11:53] <root__> greece server?
[11:53] <Beldar> ijulian, You would do it after install,
[11:55] <ijulian> Beldar ok thanks, I will do that. do you know how can I check if trim is enabled?
[11:55] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: please run: dmesg | pastebinit                       and again: please type the url it generates here
[11:55] <hitsujiTMO> ijulian: trim is not enabled by default(except 14.04)
[11:56] <ijulian> yes, I know that. but I would like to know how can I check it after I enabled it, to see if I done well or not
[11:56] <ijulian> *after I enable it
[11:58] <hitsujiTMO> ijulian: mount | grep discard                               if you enabled discard
[11:59] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, do you think i can remove the nvidia current drivers and install them again? like suggested in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2106116
[11:59] <thokern> ALL: help on lightdm needed >>no login screen! anyone experienced??
[12:00] <ijulian> hitsujiTMO thanks, that work if I enable it on fstab, cron or both?
[12:02] <hitsujiTMO> ijulian: thats only if its enabled in fstab.           cron (my preffered method) instead runs the command: fstrim /
[12:03] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: thats prob the simplest course of action, but i'd prefer to see exactly what the problem is before taking any actions
[12:03] <ijulian> hitsujiTMO thanks you very much for helping me, you solved my problem
[12:03] <Gallomimia> great. samba failed to be configured properly on install. dpkg reported error of max errors reported reached. off to a good start.
[12:04] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, ok, i have pasted the link for you
[12:04] <cha0z1> i have a problem during my upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 the upgrade never done correctly and now i have the reposistories of saucy. Is there any way to revert it and make the upgrade again?
[12:05] <Walex> khaotix: cha0z1 revert is not quite right... Just use 'aptitude' and let it fix your problems.
[12:06] <cha0z1> Walex the aptitute suggest me partial upgrade! i think that is not correct. All started when my upgrade manager didnt show the upgrade to 13.10 so I typed : do-release-upgrade
[12:11] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, any suggestions to proceed further?
[12:20] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, you still there?
[12:23] <mindbender1> Gallomimia: There is a small icon next to the user's name at the login prompt that I had to click to select a proper desktop environment. Thanks again. I'm exhausted already for such an unannounced design. I reserve my bitter comments.
[12:25] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: verify that the nvidia kernel is loaded (sudo lsmod). if not, load it with 'sudo modprobe nvidia' and share dmesg's output.
[12:25]  * ezra-s chuckles
[12:26] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok
[12:27] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: perhaps it wasn't compiled for the kernel now running, you can force this with the dkms command. verify what you are running the latest kernel installed on your system
[12:27] <itay> hi, has anyoen tryed setting up a vpn usign strongswan?
[12:27] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: ls /lib/modules vs. uname -a
[12:28] <Gallomimia> mindbender1: so you fixed it? that's pretty cool. i really know very little about it.
[12:29] <Gallomimia> can anyone suggest to me some way of working around this bug/error:  samba : Depends: samba-common (= 2:3.6.18-1ubuntu3) but 2:3.6.18-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[12:29] <Gallomimia>          Depends: libwbclient0 (= 2:3.6.18-1ubuntu3) but 2:3.6.18-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[12:29] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, looks like i am ruuning kernel 3.2.0-57-generic
[12:30] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, dont know if its the latest :-)
[12:30] <helmut_> hi
[12:30] <Gallomimia> sandrahey: pretty sure 3.11 is latest in the ubuntu release
[12:31] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, its ubuntu 12.04, i have
[12:32] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: 'ls /lib/modules' should tell you if there's a newer version installed on your system. The scripts dpkg calls on kernel upgrades *might* remove a dkms kernel module from an older version, but this happened only once to me.
[12:32] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: so is the kernel module loaded or not?
[12:32] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: lsmod | grep -i nvidia
[12:33] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ruuning the lsmod command i get nvidia 11308613 0 , the nvidia is in red characters
[12:35] <MasterOfDisaster> yeah it's loaded alright then.
[12:35] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: launching X still yields the error you posted?
[12:36] <Gallomimia> does apt-get remove delete files rather than simply deselect? is there another command for that?
[12:36] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: share 'dmesg' output too, if the problem persists.
[12:36] <MasterOfDisaster> Gallomimia: IIRC apt-get purge
[12:36] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ubuntu update manager, whants to install linux kernel 3.8.0 ,  on the current laptop i am using to talk to you
[12:37] <Gallomimia> nope. that one is REALLY delete
[12:37] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, when running startx i still get the error i posted yes.
[12:37] <jordan_> can someson tell me how to remove linux mint (not duel boot) and install windows
[12:38] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, in the terminal output its states that there is a API mismatch, but it does not state it in the Xorg.0.log pasted
[12:39] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: well, try applying all available updates first and reboot.
[12:40] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: i.e.: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo reboot
[12:40] <Gallomimia> wow. what the HELL is wrong with apt-get today. i just want to uninstall the samba packages i added with install samba4, and try installing samba(no4). and the bloody thing wants to remove mplayer for me. I USE THAT PROGRAM
[12:40] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok, i already did a sudo apt-get upgrade , haven’t reboot yet
[12:41] <Gallomimia> see you soon then
[12:42] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, rebooting ....
[12:42] <jordan_> can someone tell me how to uninstall linux mnt (not duel boot) and install xubuntu
[12:42] <MasterOfDisaster> was the last thing she/he posted :D
[12:43] <llutz> jordan_: just boot the xubuntu installation disk and install it. let it overwrite the old filesystems
[12:43] <MasterOfDisaster> jordan_: when in the partitioning step of the installation, just remove the old linux partitions and recreate them.
[12:44] <jordan_> it wont let me boot from my usb and i have the xubuntu files on that i think linux mint has screwed up
[12:44] <MasterOfDisaster> jordan_: if you stored anything in your /home, you should back it up beforehand.
[12:45] <MasterOfDisaster> jordan_: linux is not responsible for any BIOS settings, including boot order.
[12:45] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, sorry i did not see the line you posted, after the update, i have 163mb to upgrade, will do it now.
[12:45] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: nevermind
[12:45] <jordan_> i know but whenever i try to boot my usb the screen just stays black when i click install
[12:46] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, is the latest kernel for ubuntu 12.04 then 3.8.0?
[12:46] <MasterOfDisaster> jordan_: recreate your usb boot medium or verify it against checksums to be safe.
[12:46] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: checking...
[12:47] <jordan_> it does the same thing with any windows or ubuntu disks too if that helps
[12:47] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, and i think that long ago i got the nvidia driver from their website, and install it that way, not through the repos, nvidia and linux was not that close then
[12:48] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: to be safe stick with the driver from the repos. it is patched to be compatible with the kernel and X version.
[12:48] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: don't give in to versionitis, if everything runs smoothly :D
[12:49] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: 3.8.x sounds right
[12:49] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: you can check package versions online: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:49] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok. After the upgrade, how can i check if the driver is from the repos, or not?
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: sommy,m i'm back. had an emergency to run to
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> sorry*
[12:50] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok, thanks i will check the kernel versions there, in future
[12:51] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: apt-cache policy nvidia-current-updates <-- should list the one from 12.04 repos there as preferred
[12:51] <sandrahey> hitsujiTMO, no prop. MasterOfDisaster was of great help so far, but i still have no desktop, i am busy to get all the updates for now, still got 24 min to go
[12:53] <tkern_> ALL: LTS 12.04 and displaymanager lightdn >> no login screen,
[12:54] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: verify that this is the only driver package installed: dpkg --get-selections | /bin/grep nvidia
[12:54] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: not all in this list are driver packages, but their names should be recognizeable.
[12:55] <MasterOfDisaster> tkern_: provide some information - logs? dmesg? something?
[12:55] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok, it is still busy downloading , is there a way to open another terminal?
[12:55] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: gnome-terminal?
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> tkern_: pastebin /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log      you will need sudo to access that file
[12:55] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: ah, my bad
[12:56] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, i am stiil in this boot terminal
[12:56] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: ctrl-alt-f1 to f7
[12:56] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: ctrl + alt + f2 should open another terminal.
[12:57] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: ctrl-alt-f1 should get you back to the one you had open first.
[12:57] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok i have another terminal open
[12:57] <jayH> Hi, I'm having problems installing Pygame on 12.04
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> !details | jayH
[12:57] <tkern_> MasterOfDisaster: not shure which logs could help: system.log? >> the trouble is since nvidia disaster there is only the UBUNTU splash screen but no login greeter,
[12:58] <MasterOfDisaster> tkern_: xorg log for starters, /var/log/syslog next.
[12:59] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, how to a pastebin the terminal output?
[12:59] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: apt-get install pastebinit ; command | pastebinit
[12:59] <jayH> Hey, sure. I have 12.04, have 2.7.3 as default, and Pygame from the repos (1.9.1) - when I run a python script, I don't get an error, a window appears, but nothing inside - always blank, whatever the code
[12:59] <hitsujiTMO> sandrahey: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[13:00] <tkern_> MasterOfDisaster_: there are some.is xorg.0.log the current?
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> tkern_: yes
[13:00] <MasterOfDisaster> tkern_: correct
[13:00] <jayH> Anyone got any ideas?
[13:01] <hitsujiTMO> jayH: any particular python script? or is it every one?
[13:01] <jayH> Every one with Pygame import
[13:01] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok, thanks
[13:02] <Gallomimia> sandrahey: when someone says type a command that ends in | pastebinit they usually want the url the command spits out :) not a thank you
[13:02] <jayH> I had exactly the same issue with Ubuntu 13.04 last week before doing complete reinstall to 12.04
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> jayH: i would try #python first incase its something particular to python that is required rather than a botched installtion
[13:03] <jayH> Maybe I'll give them a look ;)
[13:03] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, apt-cache policy nvidia-current-updates , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708911/
[13:03] <MasterOfDisaster> jayH: to be sure APT wasn't interrupted or forgot something, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ; sudo apt-get install -f' first
[13:04] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: looks good. and the dpkg command?
[13:04] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, dpkg --get-selections , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708918/
[13:05] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, when running startx i does not whant to send output to pastebin, only to the terminal
[13:06] <truba> hello
[13:06] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: run it like this: startx 2>&1 | pastebinit
[13:06] <MasterOfDisaster> truba: hi
[13:06] <MasterOfDisaster> truba: state the nature of your ubuntu emergency :D
[13:07] <truba> guys I was an ubuntu user before, so my knowledge is limited. I am setting up a lab to practice gns3 labs so am back to ubuntu now and trying an lxde + ubuntu combo to gain on ram as i have to run quite a bit of routers
[13:07] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, startx output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6708933/
[13:08] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: ok, hang on...
[13:09] <truba> but I am experiencing that my cpu fan is running quite fast even when I am using just lxde and xchat
[13:09] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, there you can see it says API mismatch. NVIDIA kernel module has version 304.88 but this NVIDIA driver component has version 304.108
[13:09] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: remove the kernel module first with 'modprobe -r nivida'
[13:09] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, wiil do
[13:09] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: yeah, let me look up the commands to fix it :D
[13:09] <truba> the cpu utilization is low though
[13:10] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, it is still busy with a upgrade, maybe i should whait until that is finished?
[13:10] <truba> but the hot air coming out form the cpu are is really irritating
[13:10] <kkkkkkkkkkk> hi all
[13:10] <kkkkkkkkkkk> i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit kernel 3.8.0.29
[13:11] <kkkkkkkkkkk> should i upgrade kernel
[13:11] <kkkkkkkkkkk> and how do i upgrade
[13:11] <kkkkkkkkkkk> my system freezes every hour
[13:11] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: first: apt-get purge nvida-304 nvidia-current nvidia-settings-304
[13:11] <kkkkkkkkkkk> nothing works except alt+sysrq+ RESIUB
[13:12] <kkkkkkkkkkk> guys , please tell me recommended way to upgrade kernel
[13:12] <Meerkat> aptitude update && aptitude upgrade I guess, kkkkkkkkkkk
[13:12] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, just waiting for upgrade to finish, +- 3 min to go
[13:14] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: force rebuild of the newer nvidia module: sudo dkms build -m nvidia-304-updates -v 304.108 -k `uname -r` --force
[13:14] <tkern_> sandrahey_: since updating to nvidia-304 i have trouble as well. in my case lightdm displaymanager is affected....
[13:14] <Overlordz> kkkkkkkkkkk, what makes you think upgrading your kernel will help?  seems like a shot in the dark
[13:15] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: anything abnormal in your syslog?
[13:15] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: did you try securing a crashdump?
[13:16] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[13:16] <MasterOfDisaster> perhaps a MCE was the reason for the crash, use mcelog to investigate
[13:17] <ice9> why Canonical will support the coming release of Ubuntu for 5 years?
[13:17] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: overheating may trigger an MCE
[13:18] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: SORRY, for late reply
[13:18] <kkkkkkkkkkk> but my system freezes, overheating is not an issue
[13:18] <kkkkkkkkkkk> it happens everytime, near about 45 minutes after
[13:18] <kkkkkkkkkkk> logging in, i usually run chrome
[13:18] <kkkkkkkkkkk> after startup
[13:19] <sayah> Can someone tell me how ubuntu runs if it isn´t using a swap page?
[13:19] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: check your logs. use crashkernel. No investigation possible without data
[13:19] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: how to check log
[13:19] <MasterOfDisaster> sayah: it's using RAM...
[13:19] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: i mean, there are many files in /var/log
[13:19] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: ls, cat, less. your logs are in /var/log.
[13:19] <llutz> sayah: if it runs out of memory it will kill processes
[13:20] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: start with syslog, especially the older ones.
[13:20] <ezra-s> kkkkkkkkkkk, do "lspci | grep -i wireless"
[13:20] <sayah> Thanks guys and girls.
[13:20] <ezra-s> just a bet...
[13:21] <kkkkkkkkkkk> ezra-s: 2:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[13:21] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: freezing is difficult to debug without access to the hardware. It might be faulty disk, faulty RAM, bad usb device, etc.
[13:22] <sandrahey> master_of_master, ok, removing the nvidia drivers
[13:22] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: utilize your logs and crashkernel to gather data.
[13:22] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: got it :D
[13:22] <ma4c70> sayah: just type  free  from terminal
[13:22] <ezra-s> kkkkkkkkkkk, not the same I used to have problems with. I once had freezes under ubuntu too, a spepcific model of an atheros wifi model, had to even patch the kernel, I was guessing, sorry I don't know of issues with that one
[13:22] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: NO, in ubuntu 32 bit, it never happened, on 32 bit i am using kernel 3.2.0.52
[13:23] <Allison43> hello
[13:23] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: dual boot setup or what?
[13:23] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: further, it never happened to me on windows also, it means, hardware is fine
[13:23] <kkkkkkkkkkk> triple boot
[13:23] <kkkkkkkkkkk> 2 linux + win7
[13:23] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: no, it means parts of the hardware are fine
[13:23] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: could still be a dying disk
[13:23] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: but why the same is not happening on win7 or
[13:23] <kkkkkkkkkkk> ubuntu 32 bit
[13:24] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: perhaps it will. soon. disk errors are sneaky, but deadly.
[13:24] <kkkkkkkkkkk> so, should i change my disk
[13:24] <MasterOfDisaster> verify with a livecd and badblocks run on the *whole* disk
[13:24] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: it has 2 bad sectors, otherwise it is showing healthy status
[13:25] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: disk utility is showing
[13:25] <sandrahey> master_of_master, sorry, is it single quotes around the uname -r in the rebuild  command?
[13:25] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: duh. so you know it has bad sectors?
[13:25] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: backticks
[13:25] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: `
[13:25] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: yes, but 2 bad sectors are with it, since i have purchased laptop
[13:25] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: you can replace it with $(uname -r)
[13:25] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok, thanks just whant to make sure
[13:26] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: do yourself a favour and replace the disk.
[13:26] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: But now it is out of warranty and it will cost a lot to me,
[13:27] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: yeah so? that's life in IT, deal with it. Sorry, but it is like that.
[13:27] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: okay, thanks for help, i will think of to purchase a external one, and whether one can partition a external hdd
[13:27] <kkkkkkkkkkk> or boot from it
[13:27] <kkkkkkkkkkk> it will help me to decide, whether to purchase a external or internal one.
[13:28] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: dude, seriously. You're inviting more headaches, but well, they are your headaches to have and forunately not mine :D
[13:28] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, its says its already build for it ?
[13:28] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: did you add --force?
[13:29] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, yes . http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709001/
[13:29] <kkkkkkkkkkk> MasterOfDisaster: guide me, i am confused, which one to purchase, i am not an expert
[13:29] <kkkkkkkkkkk> By the way you are the master of Disater
[13:30] <kkkkkkkkkkk> :D
[13:30] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, should i reboot?
[13:30] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: buy an internal disk
[13:30] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: yes please
[13:31] <ezra-s> you guys made sure it is a disk problem? :P
[13:31] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok
[13:32] <kkkkkkkkkkk> thanks, which brand Sandisk, Seagate ??
[13:32] <MasterOfDisaster> ezra-s: :))
[13:32] <MasterOfDisaster> kkkkkkkkkkk: in your case, the cheapest?
[13:32] <ezra-s> kkkkkkkkkkk, if you want a good internal reliable hdd, go for western digital, green if you don't need super fast performance, black for gaming and such, red for servers
[13:33] <ezra-s> :)
[13:33] <kibibyte> hi
[13:33] <thana> hi
[13:33] <kkkkkkkkkkk> thanks a lot, western digital, i will look for it, at online sales site
[13:33] <kkkkkkkkkkk> flipkart in india
[13:33] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, you are the man !!!!!!
[13:33] <kkkkkkkkkkk> BTW thanks a lot
[13:33] <thana> if the upstart-script for $service is missing, shouldnt programs like status fall back to the sysvinit-script?
[13:33] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, thanks i have my screen back!
[13:33] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: you're welcome
[13:34] <kibibyte> im trying to search for some text in files but when i type: grep "database" /home/luk/*.txt im getting  "home/luk/*.txt  : No such file or directory". How to use wildcards then ?
[13:34] <kibibyte> im trying to search for some text in files but when i type: grep "database" /home/luk/*.txt im getting  "/home/luk/*.txt  : No such file or directory". How to use wildcards then ?
[13:35] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, the kernel version does bother me a bit, i am on 3.2 and the other laptop is wants to download 3.8
[13:35] <kibibyte> anyone help?
[13:36] <thana> kibibyte: what do you expect should happen if there are no files matching your wildcard expression?
[13:36] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: verify that your sources.list is the same, is *-updates enabled?
[13:36] <ezra-s> 3.8? that's not on kernel.org marked as stable or longterm
[13:36] <kibibyte> thana but i have .txt files
[13:36] <MasterOfDisaster> kibibyte: do you want to search that dir recursively?
[13:36] <kibibyte> MasterOfDisaster, yes
[13:36] <thana> kibibyte: not in this folder
[13:37] <MasterOfDisaster> kibibyte: find /home/luk -iname *.txt -exec grep -Hin database {} \;
[13:37] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, ok, sorry how do i check that?
[13:37] <thana> MasterOfDisaster: grep /home/luk/**/*txt rather
[13:37] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: does bash support that?
[13:38] <thana> MasterOfDisaster: sure
[13:38] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: he need to have extglob right?
[13:38] <thana> i dont know
[13:38] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: meh, I can never remember which version does, and I deal with ancient software now and then.
[13:39] <MasterOfDisaster> kibibyte: so 'grep database /home/luk/**/*txt' should work as well, as thana suggested.
[13:40] <thana> now if just anyone would know an answer to my question ;)
[13:40] <kibibyte> but only with 1 subfolder?
[13:40] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: by comparing /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:40] <kibibyte> thana, i want searh in all subfolders
[13:40] <MasterOfDisaster> sandrahey: by comparing /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[13:41] <vilcans> Hey, anyone knows how to disable sudo password prompts when using the -u flag?
[13:41] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: concerning your question: what do you mean by 'fall back'? In which scenario?
[13:41] <vilcans> "%sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" doesn't do it.
[13:41] <thana> MasterOfDisaster: i heard upstart would fall back to sysvinit if it doesnt have an upstartscript for $service
[13:42] <MasterOfDisaster> vilcans: you shouldn't. It's an information disclosure issue.
[13:42] <vilcans> MasterOfDisaster: It makes scripting impossible.
[13:42] <debore2> hello, sorry for my bad english. I tried to use trim with cron, but it seems not active. can you help me?
[13:43] <MasterOfDisaster> vilcans: what are you trying to do?
[13:43] <vilcans> MasterOfDisaster: Install and run things with Ansible.
[13:43] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: /etc/init.d/ links are added to upstart scripts, but this is it AFAIK
[13:44] <vilcans> Ansible runs commands through ssh for me.
[13:44] <thana> MasterOfDisaster: any suggestion what to do if i have such a service without upstart script?
[13:44] <jnhghy> is there a sap2000 alternative for ubuntu? I found that estru3D should work but didn't find the linux version so I thought asking here for any good software...
[13:44] <vilcans> Works fine with plain "sudo" but if I want to run the command as another user with "sudo -u" it hangs on the password prompt.
[13:45] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: just use the debian sysv tools (update-rc.d). look in the headers of a sample script (skeleton) for the appropriate headers
[13:46] <thana> MasterOfDisaster: mayeb i should be more clear: i have a puppet-script trying to get the status of service php5-fpm yusing /sbin/status php5-fpm -- just there is no (upstart)service :/
[13:46] <MasterOfDisaster> vilcans: %sudo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[13:46] <debore2>  I tried to use trim with cron, but it seems not active. can you help me? sorry for my bad english.
[13:47] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: puh, consult the puppet docs for an override. you might have to define a custom service class.
[13:47] <MasterOfDisaster> debore2: trim? ssd?
[13:48] <MasterOfDisaster> debore2: why not use the filesystem mount option?
[13:48] <vilcans> MasterOfDisaster: Awesome! Thanks!
[13:48] <debore2> MasterOfDisaster yes. I read that cron is better
[13:49] <thana> MasterOfDisaster: damnit. thanks
[13:49] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/puppet/+bug/551544
[13:49] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: seems related
[13:49] <prabhat> hiiii
[13:49] <MasterOfDisaster> thana: perhaps you can figure out a solution from there.
[13:49] <thana> MasterOfDisaster: yes i manually set the provider to init. i acturally hoped i could avoid this
[13:49] <MasterOfDisaster> vilcans: explanation here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28309/sudo-no-password-breaks-other-sudo-u-uses
[13:49] <MasterOfDisaster> vilcans: strong, my google-fu is :D
[13:52] <debore2> MasterOfDisaster : do you know how can I check if trim is active? I think i have done bad and is not activated. sorry for my bad english
[13:54] <KeyboardNotFound>  /dev/ttyUSB* is stream or file ?
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: how did you enable trim exactly?
[13:56] <thana> MasterOfDisaster: thanks
[13:56] <MasterOfDisaster> debore2: you're using ext3/4?
[13:57] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : /etc/cron.daily/trim http://pastebin.com/XhaAgNJ1
[13:57] <debore2> ext4
[13:57] <MasterOfDisaster> debore2: sudo mount / -o remount,trim
[13:58] <sandrahey> MasterofDisaster, when grep update in the sources.list then i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709135/
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> MasterOfDisaster: you're thinking of discard
[13:58] <MasterOfDisaster> debore2: sorry, sudo mount / -o remount,ssd,discard
[13:59] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: you may need full path for fstrim:   /sbin/fstrim
[13:59] <MasterOfDisaster> hitsujiTMO: yup. read first, post second
[13:59] <sandrahey> MasterOfDisaster, when grep -ir update /etc/apt.sources.list.d/* , then i get nothing
[14:00] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : $ sudo fstrim -v / /: 570634240 bytes were trimmed . is it right?
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: yes if you have 550 mbs to trim since last run
[14:03] <debore2> hitsujiTMO: I have tried this : https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/checkiftrimonext4isenabledandworking
[14:03] <debore2> it says that I have not active trim
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: that assumes you are using discard. which isn't always the best way to use trim
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: i prefer the passive cron approach
[14:06] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : then I have trim actived? I dont know any way to check this. thanks for help
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: what does your log say?
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: if its trimming then the log should contain entries with the results of the trim operation
[14:11] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : the log don't exist, so is not active
[14:12] <bin> guys where is ulimit in ubuntu 13.10 server ?
[14:12] <ikonia> bin: type ulimit
[14:13] <bin> well yeah
[14:13] <bin> and it's missing
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: ls -l /var/log/trim.log
[14:13] <ikonia> the command "ulimit" is missing ?
[14:13] <geirha> bin: no, really ''type ulimit''  type is a command
[14:13] <ikonia> I actually meant "type the word ulimit"
[14:13] <bin> geirha:  for real ?
[14:13] <ikonia> not "type ulimit" as a command
[14:13] <ikonia> bin: no, I mean just type "ulimit"
[14:14] <bin> i know what ikonia meant
[14:14] <bin> anyways
[14:14] <bin> thanks
[14:15] <debore2>  hitsujiTMO: dont exist, it says : no se puede acceder a /var/log/trim.log: No existe el archivo o el directorio
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: how long ago did you create the cron?
[14:16] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : 30 mins ago and I reboted
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: that won't necessarily get called on every boot. it a daily cron, so may just bot have been called yet.
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> s/bot/not
[14:17] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : is not neccesary to active when ubuntu boot?
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: no
[14:19] <debore2> hitsujiTMO ok, thanks.
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: have made the script executable btw?
[14:20] <debore2> hitsujiTMO yes I did
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: can you paste the output of: ls -l /etc/cron.daily/trim
[14:21] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 86 ene  7 14:19 /etc/cron.daily/trim
[14:22] <rajrajraj> well, is there any distro which acts like windows in terms of installing software, what i mean is: like in windows you install a software which is usually an exe file and is transferable from one system to another, but in ubuntu as i have seen, I had to install packages which had dependency on another, every time internet was required, isnt there any distro which has packages in a bundle like rar file. which wont require internet co
[14:22] <ikonia> rajrajraj: no
[14:23] <rajrajraj> ikonia: wow you mean, i will have to deal with dependencies every time
[14:23] <gordonjcp> rajrajraj: pretty much all modern distros package software like that
[14:23] <ikonia> rajrajraj: yes
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: last thing to check is if anacron is installed: dpkg --get-selections | grep anacron
[14:23] <gordonjcp> rajrajraj: an application comes as a single package, which can contain the instructions for reverything else it needs
[14:23] <rajrajraj> ikonia: no linux distro comes with inbuild dependencies?
[14:24] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : yes, anacron						install
[14:24] <gordonjcp> rajrajraj: this prevents the problem that Windows has
[14:24] <rajrajraj> gordonjcp: what problem?
[14:24] <KI7MT_> widos has the same problem, DLL nightmares
[14:24] <KI7MT_> *Windows
[14:24] <gordonjcp> rajrajraj: windows programs have to package everything they think they need
[14:24] <ikonia> rajrajraj: I'll say it again 2no"
[14:24] <debore2> hitsujiTMO: I don't delete a lot of files, maybe is better for me fstab method
[14:24] <ikonia> "no"
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: anacron bein installed disables the daily task, so it won't run
[14:26] <rajrajraj> gordonjcp: that is good for those with no intenet, isnt it. or does linux has an alternate distro for it
[14:26] <ikonia> rajrajraj: this channel is for ubuntu - you're asking your generic questions in ##linux
[14:26] <debore2> hitsujiTMO: I need to remove anacron?
[14:26] <ikonia> rajrajraj: you've been advised to download the DVD - or download packages directly from the internet
[14:26] <ikonia> rajrajraj: those are you only options with ubuntu
[14:26] <gordonjcp> rajrajraj: no, that's bad
[14:26] <ikonia> rajrajraj: if you don't want to use #ubuntu - the channel ##linux is where you should be asking
[14:26] <Cigrits> rajrajraj could burn a ubuntu disc to solve his problem, no?
[14:27] <gordonjcp> rajrajraj: so the installers are huge and if two installers package same library, boom
[14:27] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: no, something might be using it. instead use the root crontab to call fstrim: sudo crontab -e
[14:28] <gordonjcp> rajrajraj: it's why windows is too difficult for normal people to use
[14:28] <rajrajraj> Cigrits: what?
[14:29] <debore2> hitsujiTMO: what I need to write in that text file? thanks for helping me
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: * * 1 * * /etc/cron.daily/trim
[14:31] <Jeffry_> Hello
[14:31] <Jeffry_> Could i get some help with the grub boot loader
[14:31] <Rory> !details | Jeffry_
[14:32] <Jeffry_> I need help with efi grub bootloader the grub bootloader wont start unless i start it manualy
[14:33] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : ok, I have done that
[14:34] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, hey - we got it... http://youtu.be/X1aC7ewNeBQ, had to update the 13.04 grub.  You were gone when I finally figered it out and came back to thanks you  all => Thanks :)
[14:34] <Qiamian> hi
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: np. glad you made it
[14:35] <Qiamian> whats up?
[14:35] <b2w> is there any way to convert speech to text in terminal?
[14:35]  * dougl knows where his friends hang... appreciates this channel full of good people!
[14:36] <Allison43> Jeffry_, do you mean with the shift key
[14:36] <Rory> !info festival | b2w
[14:36] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : how can I check if it works? sorry for bothering you
[14:36] <kibibyte> b2w, apt-get guy-from-india
[14:36] <Jeffry_> no I'm just launching it from the boot menu after i press ESC than F10 the takes me to the boot menu where i then luancher the on that says ubuntu than it opens grub
[14:37] <Jeffry_> sorry about my speeling im kinda tierd
[14:37] <b2w> ubottu festival is text to speech i am asking about speech to text?
[14:37] <kibibyte> b2w, apt-get guy-from-india
[14:37] <kibibyte> i mean apt-get install
[14:37] <b2w> kibibyte can u tell me how to use it please..
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> debore2 crap i just realised i gave you the wrong entries maybe this would be better: 0 12 * * * /etc/cron.daily/trim
[14:39] <OerHeks> !info julius
[14:40] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : I changed it like you say
[14:40] <Gallomimia> sweet. installing both of those speech tools
[14:40] <geirha> Note that regardless of whether anacron is installed or not, the scripts in /etc/cron.daily/ get run daily. Though not if the machine is on battery power.
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: you'll have to give it 24hrs and see if it writes to the log
[14:41] <bilegt> I wanted to run a shell script at startup and it's working well when I start it like "sudo /etc/init.d/myscript start", but when I do "sudo service myscript start" it won't work
[14:41] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : ok, thanks a lot  for your help
[14:41] <b2w> can i convert speech to text using festival
[14:41] <b2w> ?
[14:41] <Allison43> Jeffry_, use legacy mode and legacy boot first , in the UEFI/Bios, then grub should appear after the POST page.
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> geirha: man cron states: These tasks are disabled  if  anacron is installed (except for the hourly task) to prevent conflicts between both daemons.
[14:42] <Jeffry_> I will try that
[14:42] <b2w> can i convert speech to text using festival?
[14:42] <Rory> b2w: Yes, that's what it's for
[14:42] <geirha> hitsujiTMO: Yes, because then anacron runs them instead of cron
[14:42] <Rory> b2w: Oh no, sorry that's text to speech
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> geirha: ahh my bad
[14:42] <OerHeks> b2w festival is text to speech engine
[14:43] <b2w> Rory i want something that converts speech to text...
[14:43] <Gallomimia> i thought festival does text to speech. and julius does speech to text?
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: you can remove the crontab entry: it should work without it
[14:43] <Gallomimia> use julius. ignore festival
[14:43] <debore2> hitsujiTMO : ok, I will remove it.
[14:44] <shafox> I am having trouble with chrome, while opened for a while or sudden transition of tabs the system halts.
[14:44]  * Gallomimia installs both.
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> debore2: just give it 24hrs and see if you log gets written to
[14:44] <shafox> i tried with stable chrome, unstable chrome, chromium everything gets hanged.
[14:45] <Rory> b2w: What have you tried?
[14:45] <b2w> Rory trying out now
[14:47] <OerHeks> speech 2 text and a native systemwide equaliser are 2 things i am waiting for,
[14:49] <shafox> anybody here expert on chrome hangs the system issue ? on 12.04 LTE
[14:49]  * FiLoSsOfIe ce fac puturosiiiiii ?
[14:49] <Allison43> hmm, speech to text would be chaotic for those who think out loud
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> or curse their computers
[14:55] <OerHeks> !find MonkeyDust
[14:58] <Tobias92> I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu Server.We've come through almost every step, but now it hangs on grub-install at 50%. Does anybody have a suggestion?
[14:59] <ikonia> Tobias92: where is it trying to install grub /
[14:59] <Tobias92> ikonia: on /dev/sda, the MBR
[14:59] <Tobias92> I should mention, it's running as a degenerated software RAID1
[14:59] <ikonia> Tobias92: as in "mdadm" raid or fakeraid ?
[14:59] <Tobias92> ikonia: the former
[15:00] <ikonia> Tobias92: how have you setup raid degraded if you have no OS on it ?
[15:01] <Cigrits> tobias92 what size are your drives?
[15:01] <Tobias92> ikonia: it's running RAID1 on a single disk, I cannot add the second disk yet
[15:01] <Tobias92> Cigrits: one drive, 200GB
[15:01] <Tobias92> 2006 Seagate model, 7200RPM
[15:01] <Cigrits> tobias92 are you installing from a usb drive?
[15:02] <ernetas> Hey guys.
[15:02] <ernetas> I installed XEN and trying to start Ubuntu...
[15:02] <ernetas> Whatsoever, I'm getting a very weird error:
[15:02] <ernetas> https://gist.github.com/ernetas/bde0c8f3c92763259da1/raw/6dc379948adb459a786b5f37e3e7aa763cc59302/gistfile1.txt
[15:02] <ernetas> It's a fresh install using xen-image-create. fsck -f returns no problems. What could be the issue?
[15:02] <Tobias92> Cigrits: no, from an IDE cdrom
[15:02] <jeffry__> It didnt work
[15:04] <Tobias92> The "grub-install" command has been running for more than half an hour now; ps tells me it is making *some* progress as other progresses show up after a long while, but is is *incredibly* slow
[15:04] <Cigrits> tobias92 if you still have the installer running, press ctrl+alt+f2 to go to the 2nd virtual termal. type tail /var/log/syslog
[15:04] <Cigrits> that might give you some clues
[15:04] <ernetas> Any clues, anyone?
[15:05] <jcims> any good alternatives to Canonical Landscape?  i've got a few systems deployed at customer sites with no persistent connectivity inbound.  honestly i'd probably rather use a service than build something (only 3-4 boxes total at the moment), just would like to find something a bit less expensive
[15:05] <Cigrits> or cat /var/log/syslog |more
[15:05] <Cigrits> to look throught the whole log, its very long
[15:05] <jcims> main objectives are patches and basic change management.  backups might also be good to centralize
[15:06] <Tobias92> Cigrits: oh my; it's reporting all sorts of "unrecovered read error"'s
[15:06] <hwitt> I have put alot of unnecessary shit on my machine and it's running slow( I have five copies of postgresql installed). I want to wipe the hard drive clean and re-install ibuntu 12.04, bu tI'm at work and I don't have a cd or usb. Any thoughts?
[15:06] <hwitt> Should I use debootstrap?
[15:07] <spearhead__> !language hwitt
[15:07] <hwitt> sorry
[15:08] <Tobias92> Cigrits: I'm just going to assume this drive is dead as a dodo and try with some other drive
[15:09] <spearhead__> hwitt, as far as I know you are going to need some other boot able media such as cd or usb to reformat and install ubuntu... someone else might know more though...
[15:09] <Cigrits> tobias92 you can use smartctl to check it.
[15:09] <spearhead__> hwitt: because you can't reformat the drive you are currently booted from...
[15:10] <Tobias92> Cigrits: that's not in the busybox, is it?
[15:10] <ses1984> after i login i see my desktop background and icons, but no launcher or top panel
[15:10] <OerHeks> hwitt, add an ISO to your grub can be your solution >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[15:11] <hwitt> awesome thanks!
[15:11] <spearhead__> OerHeks, will that work if the iso is on the drive being formatted?
[15:12] <Cigrits> tobias92  if you are using a net install disc probably not
[15:13] <Tobias92> Aight, I'm just gonna try with other drives. Thanks, Cigrits!
[15:13] <Cigrits> np tobias92
[15:15] <OerHeks> spearhead__, no, you need 'toram'  option to unmount any disk to partition/format >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#Installing_Ubuntu_from_a_Menuentry_Boot  but it can be done
[15:18] <truba> hello
[15:18] <truba> is there any irc channel for ubuntu beginers where I can ask for installation solutions
[15:19] <bazhang> truba, ask here
[15:19] <Rory> truba: Not specifically, but this is the Ubuntu support channel
[15:22] <truba> i am trying to install ubuntu with lxde to save RAM as I have to work in GNS3, but I am getting abnormally high cpu fan speed, high temperature
[15:22] <Rory> truba: If you go to system monitor, do you see any applications consuiming a high % of CPU?
[15:22] <truba> no
[15:23] <truba> that is what is troubling me cpu utilisation is low but cpu fan is high, and hot air coming out is very irritating
[15:24] <FiremanEd> truba: What is your PC/Laptop? and what are the specs of it?
[15:24] <truba> i have a Dell laptop with 4 gb RAM
[15:25] <compdoc> truba, if the air is hot, it needs to come out. But I have seen ppl mention the same thing - laptop power saving modes seem broken
[15:25] <OerHeks> better high fan and noise than no fan, it is safe and probably will be solved when you boot first time.
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> truba: what gpu?
[15:26] <truba> Nvidia and I have installed the drivers, but I am not running unity but LXDE
[15:27] <Rory> truba: You could try installing sensors-detect "sudo apt-get install sensors-detect" and then run it with:
[15:27] <Rory> yes | sudo sensors-detect
[15:27] <spearhead> OerHeks: thanks, yeah I was reading through the article and found that at the bottom...
[15:28] <truba> I am running sensors
[15:28] <senthilkumar> truba: may be you need to clean your cpu fan.. i had the same problem... lots of dust
[15:29] <egor_> Привет
[15:29] <egor_> Hello
[15:29] <truba> but a day before I was using windows and I had no problem
[15:30] <egor_> amm
[15:31] <egor_> What doing to
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> truba: what temps are your cpu + gpu hitting?
[15:33] <truba> 50.0 C
[15:33] <compdoc> yikes
[15:33] <FiremanEd> truba: Are you running 12.04/12.10/13.10, which one?
[15:33] <truba> 12.04
[15:33] <truba> and I am only using lxde and xchat now
[15:33] <darkswisp> truba: have you try to check idlepc option
[15:34] <truba> no
[15:34] <truba> how to use it ?
[15:34] <darkswisp> in gns3 my teacher advise me check this
[15:35] <Rory> truba: Is it a laptop? Does your system have a make and model? Could you put the output from running the "sensors" command onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:36] <Akiva-Mobile> is there a better more native browser for ubuntu than firefox?
[15:36] <Rory> !best | Akiva-Mobile I like chrome
[15:36] <Akiva-Mobile> Rory: Chrome is worse; please read the question.
[15:37] <bazhang> Akiva-Mobile, please dont poll here, try some and decide for yourself
[15:37] <Rory> Akiva-Mobile: I don't care, please read the answer.
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> Akiva-Mobile: what do you mean by "more native"?
[15:37] <Akiva-Mobile> I am not polling for the best.
[15:37] <truba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709636/
[15:37] <bazhang> !info chromium-browser
[15:38] <bazhang> Akiva-Mobile, ^
[15:38] <Akiva-Mobile> hitsujiTMO: The UI, as with firefox, you notice its scroll bar is not the "ubuntu scrollbar"
[15:38] <Rory> truba: Did you already run "yes | sudo sensors-detect" ?
[15:38] <knightshade> what's wrong with 50°C cpu temp?
[15:38] <Rory> !info epiphany | Akiva-Mobile
[15:38] <Rory> !info epiphany-browser | Akiva-Mobile
[15:39] <Akiva-Mobile> Rory: Thanks.
[15:39] <truba> no
[15:39] <darkswisp> for web browser, someone try midori?
[15:39] <Akiva-Mobile> darkswisp:  is it native?
[15:39] <truba> what is it used for , my knowledge is limited
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> Akiva-Mobile: the browser itself renders its own scrollbar. all browsers do this as theres a number of elements thats customisable in css
[15:41] <darkswisp> for ubuntu i don't know?
[15:41] <Rory> truba: It detects the available temperature sensors on your system, and loads the modules to use them
[15:41] <Rory> truba: You need to run "sudo apt-get -y install sensors-detect; yes | sudo sensors-detect"
[15:42] <Akiva-Mobile> hitsujiTMO: what is more native in your opinion to ubuntu; qt or gtk?
[15:42] <truba> I have done that
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> Akiva-Mobile: neither are "native" to ubuntu. its a poor question. they are both rendering engines. they are both available in ubuntu. neither are "mor native"
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> Akiva-Mobile: more apps would use gtk if thats the answer that you're looking for
[15:44] <Akiva-Mobile> hitsujiTMO: When ubuntu was using gnome, one could say gtk was more native, don't you think?
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> Akiva-Mobile: no. just that gtk is the rendering engine used by most apps. it being native is a poor description
[15:47] <OerHeks> Akiva-Mobile, so you choose browser by scrollbar?
[15:47] <Akiva-Mobile> OerHeks: Aesthetics are important. Its why I don't use chrome.
[15:48] <written_direcon> what is a good terminal program with support for serial console (not minicom, putty) for ubuntu?
[15:49] <SwedeMike> written_direcon: gtkterm
[15:50] <wasanzy> my directory is very very large and can not be ls too. rm will b very very slow and can affect the system. how else can I empty the directory?
[15:51] <martian> Is there a reason it would be unwise to reuse my ssh private keys on all my client systems or is that what one is expected to do?
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> martian: you mean put your pubkeys on the clients severs?
[15:52] <Pici> martian: or do you mean put your own private keys on your own personal clients that you ssh from?
[15:53] <martian> hitsujiTMO: By 'client' I mean personal systems I use to work on; as opposed to servers. Basically instead of generating keys on each of my personal systems and then copying the public keys to my server(s) would it be better to simply generate keys once then copy them to all personal systems
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> martian: generate once and copy around.
[15:55] <martian> ok, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking some stupidity in doing that. I guess I've just been too lazy to bother putting much thought in to this and have just opted to have a mess of keys all over the place and like four different keys on github
[15:55] <martian> thanks for sanity checking me :)
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> martian: just ensure that you're copying them in such a way that noone else can get them
[15:55] <martian> hitsujiTMO: aye :)
[15:55] <Pici> martian: You can always revoke them if something goes wrong.
[15:56] <martian> Pici: I should probably learn to do that; I think for now I'm going to just clean house on the servers and github
[15:56] <truba> can anyone tell me how to install Broadcomm wireless driver in ubuntu 12.04. I am having no sucess in installing using 'Additional Driver'
[15:56] <Pici> martian: I should probably learn how to do it too ;)
[15:56] <martian> haha
[15:57] <knightshade> truba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:01] <tailcalled> so I got a problem on ubuntu (newest version, IIRC); my logitech wireless keyboard and mouse (MK710) don't work and generally, no mice work and the cursor is invisible
[16:02] <tailcalled> can't find anything online, can anyone help?
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: do you have a working keyboard now?
[16:02] <tailcalled> yes
[16:02] <tailcalled> but not mouse
[16:02] <Stark_u> hey guys
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit
[16:04] <tailcalled> unable to initialize lsusb: -99
[16:05] <tailcalled> hitsujiTMO: I assume that's a bad thing
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: sounds like an issue with your usb host then: lspci | pastebinit
[16:05] <tailcalled> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709760
[16:06] <Stark_u> i have turned off amazon results and recording
[16:07] <tailcalled> hitsujiTMO: I assume you want that link?
[16:07] <Stark_u> are there anymore privacy issues?
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: according to that you have no usb host controoler.
[16:07] <tailcalled> well, shit
[16:07] <tailcalled> what should i do?
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: lspci -nn | pastebinit
[16:07] <tailcalled> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709767
[16:07] <Stark_u> seriously any help plaeas?
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: do you have usb disabled in the bios?
[16:10] <Acid_Meltdown> O/
[16:10] <tailcalled> uh, not as far as I know
[16:11] <tailcalled> but I can't exclude the possibility
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: have a look
[16:11] <tailcalled> well, unless that would prevent the usb from sending power to anything connected
[16:11] <tailcalled> I should probably start another computer so I can write in IRC while I look
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: prob a good idea :P
[16:12] <Acid_Meltdown> 'quick' question, just installed linux mint 13 on dual boot windows 8 lappy, now having trouble maintaining wireless connection while running Linux
[16:12] <llutz> !mint | Acid_Meltdown
[16:12] <Pici> Acid_Meltdown: 'quick' answer, we don't support Linux Mint here.
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> !mint Z Acid_Meltdown
[16:12] <Acid_Meltdown> ah
[16:12] <Pici> :)
[16:12] <Acid_Meltdown> hehe yes, i suppose that makes since
[16:12] <Stark_u> ubottu: new to ubuntu any help?
[16:13] <nitk> can someone help me in remote access service using xrdp..
[16:13] <tailcalled> hitsujiTMO: in case it's relevant, my monitor runs on a USB power-saving cable, so the usb is not *completely* broken
[16:13] <Stark_u> ubottu: ok
[16:13] <TeraJL> ubuntu(LTS) icons, are kinda ugly,(gtk-icons i think), do you guys know any alternative?
[16:13] <Stark_u> ubottu: cool XD
[16:13] <Acid_Meltdown> ...how do i change chat rooms :D
[16:13] <xangua> TeraJL: gnome-look.org
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled: usb power can be independent of the controller. I don't think its broken, its either disabled or requires some other driver to access the controller
[16:15] <tailcalled> hitsuhiTMO: thought so
[16:15] <tailcalled> just would be stupid to withhold info
[16:15] <Stark_u> anyone?
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | Stark_u
[16:16] <Stark_u> ubottu: thanks alot
[16:16] <k1l_> Stark_u: got to systemsettings and then the privacy tab. that is all you want
[16:16] <hasnain> Hey guys
[16:16] <Stark_u> k1l_: done that anymore privacy issues?
[16:17] <k1l_> Stark_u: no. how come you think there should be any privacy issues?
[16:17] <hasnain> How much battery timing do you guys get on ubuntu laptop
[16:17] <tailcalled> hitsujiTMO: anyway, shutting down, new alias is tailcalled2
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> hasnain: depends on the laptop + battery
[16:18] <k1l_> hasnain: depends on laptop, battery, used kernel, use case , etc etc etc.. its very hard to compare
[16:18] <Stark_u> k1l_: well i met alot of haters
[16:18] <k1l_> Stark_u: well, they are haters. what do you expect
[16:18] <hasnain>  Ubuntu 12.04 kernel 3.8
[16:19] <Stark_u> k1l_: yeah, i changed my opnion about ubuntu
[16:19] <hasnain> Dell inspiron 5521, 8 GB ram, 2GB Radeon Card switchable. 1 TB
[16:19] <nitk>  can someone help me in remote access service using xrdp..
[16:19] <Stark_u> and is xubuntu officially supported? thinking of switching
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Stark_u: there's a lot of people verbal about issues that aren't issues, they simply like to complain. generally speaking, the amazon shopping lens is the only real privacy concern and is extremely simple to disable
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> Stark_u: officially support derivatives are http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[16:21] <Stark_u> hitsujiTMO: they can exaggerate like hell
[16:22] <tailcalled2> hitsujiTMO: when was I supposed to open config when booting?
[16:22] <bazhang> Stark_u, xubuntu-desktop package will do that, you can change at login
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled2: immediately upon boot to get the bios settings :P
[16:22] <tailcalled2> hmm
[16:22] <trijntje> How can I connect to my people.ubuntu.com storage with nautilus?
[16:22] <gordonjcp> hasnain: Macbook 3,1 dual-booting OSX Lion and 12.04, new aftermarket battery, about 3-4 hours from fully charged to "ZOMG NOES FLAT!"
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: with sshfs i suspect
[16:23] <Stark_u> quote by haters"ubuntu is bloated,ubuntu is insecure,ubuntu has malware/spyware/virus,ubuntu is slow,unity sucks "..and the list goes on
[16:23] <truba> I am unable to install broadcomm wireless driver here is the output of /var/log/jockey.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6709850/
[16:24] <Stark_u> which newbie to linux won't be scared to shit?
[16:24] <Stark_u> with all that exaggeration
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> !bcm | truba maybe try following the different options here
[16:25] <Stark_u> hitsujiTMO: see why i'm asking?
[16:26] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: it used to be that I could just connect with natulius, but i lost my bookmarks with a reinstall and now I can't seem to add it again
[16:26] <Stark_u> bazhang: yes i know that but i have an old machine (p4) thats why i want to install something light on that one
[16:26] <tailcalled2> hitsujiTMO: ok, in bios settings
[16:26] <tailcalled2> but it seems the keyboard doesn
[16:26] <tailcalled2> 't work in here
[16:27] <Stark_u> gotta say this channel is ultra active
[16:27] <tailcalled2> Stark_u: not as active as I feared
[16:27] <napilla> ahhhhh
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled2: does any keyboard work? even your usb keyboard?
[16:27] <napilla> I AM CHATTING
[16:27] <napilla> leave
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> that was bizarre
[16:28] <Stark_u> tailcalled2: well yeah i get that too
[16:28] <tailcalled2> hitsujiTMO: i'm using an old keyboard with these round thingies, but I don't see why a USB keyboard would suddenly work, can try though
[16:28] <nitk>  can someone help me in remote access service using xrdp..
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled2: if its an issue with the os drivers then a usb keyboard should work in the bios at least. kinda weird that a ps2 kb doesn't tho
[16:29] <yash069> nitk: what problem are u facing ?
[16:29] <HDRDanny> Hey, everyone! Wubi doesn't seem to want to work on Windows 7. :(
[16:29] <HDRDanny> I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. :(
[16:29] <tailcalled2> hitsujiTMO: usb keyboard doesn
[16:29] <tailcalled2> 't seem to work
[16:30] <xangua> HDRDanny: wubi isn't recomended, also if you machine uses UEFI wubi will just not work with it
[16:30] <tailcalled2> and neither does wireless usb
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> HDRDanny: wubi is dead dude, it hasnt been developed for in ages
[16:30] <HDRDanny> I know. :(
[16:30] <HDRDanny> I figured it'd work for 12.04.3 though.
[16:30] <HDRDanny> Oh welel.
[16:30] <HDRDanny> Well*
[16:31] <pc> does canonical have a lot of programmers?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> HDRDanny: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28Ubuntu_installer%29
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: try:              file -> connect to server           enter address: sftp://people.ubuntu.com
[16:31] <pc> just curious
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Development status Discontinued
[16:31] <yash069> pc: ???
[16:31] <HDRDanny> I only have one disk, but I want to keep WIndows 7 on as well, due to the fact that I use it for gaming. :\
[16:31] <tailcalled2> hitsujiTMO: what I wonder is why the round-thingie keyboard suddenly doesn
[16:31] <tailcalled2> 't work
[16:31] <Guest76143> How do I restore settings from a backup'ed .img file of the old root partition and home partition without overwriting the new installation on another machine?
[16:31] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: 'You dont have permission toa ccess the requested location"
[16:31] <nitk> yash069: I installed xrdp but unable to connect through windows7
[16:32] <Stark_u> HDRDanny: dual booting is easy as hell just download easybcd in win7
[16:32] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: same thing when I add ~trijntje to the url
[16:32] <HDRDanny> I keep getting an error about "no root file system is defined" and I obviously can't repartition my disk. :\
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: and you have the correct ssh key in ~/.ssh ?
[16:33] <HDRDanny> Why would I buy a piece of software to install free software?
[16:33] <TeraJL> i've added this no .bashrc  PROMPT_COMMAND="$PROMPT_COMMAND;history -a; history -n" but i get "syntax error near unexpected token `;'" (following this http://superuser.com/questions/37576/can-history-files-be-unified-in-bash)
[16:33] <Stark_u> HDRDanny: its free
[16:33] <Stark_u> for personal use
[16:34] <Stark_u> HDRDanny: its a opnion choice is yours
[16:34] <yash069> nitk: why dont u try VNC instead of rdp. and u should sesman and then type in user and password
[16:34] <HDRDanny> Stark_u, thing is, I still don't have a second disk to install Ubuntu or Debian to. :\
[16:34] <yash069> * select
[16:34] <metasansana> how can I get glibc2.4 on 12.04
[16:35] <metasansana> *?
[16:35] <Stark_u> HDRDanny: have you already installed ubuntu?
[16:35] <HDRDanny> No.
[16:36] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: yeah, I can still bzr push to launchpad, so nothing should be wrong with the key
[16:36] <yash069> metasansana: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:36] <Stark_u> HDRDanny: do you know that linux can be installed in a logical partiton?
[16:36] <metasansana> yash069, ok I did that, how do I check the glibc version then?
[16:36] <HDRDanny> Stark_u, I don't, but I PM'd you. I don't want to DCC, sorry.
[16:36] <Stark_u> HDRDanny: i triple boot
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: does your launchpad id match your system username?
[16:38] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: no, my $USER is not my name on launchpad, is that a problem?
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: maybe you need to specify: sftp://trijntje@people.ubuntu.com
[16:38] <tailcalled2> hitsujiTMO: is there a way to enable the usb host thing inside ubuntu?
[16:38] <yash069> <metasansana: emm, ldd -v
[16:39] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: lol, that was it. Damn, why didn't nautilus give a usefull error message
[16:39] <nitk> can I have a quick link to go through VNC installation..
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: :)
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: it did, it sid you did not have permission :P
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> said*
[16:39] <Guest76143> How do I restore settings from a backup'ed .img file of the old root partition and home partition without overwriting the new installation on another machine?
[16:40] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: well yeah, but if he had said 'bob has no access', I'd have known the problem ;)
[16:43] <tailcalled2> hitsuhiTMO: false alarm, seems like the keyboard cable was simply a bit bad, so I had to adjust it to make it work
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> Guest76143: mount -o loop xxx.img
[16:45] <tailcalled2> hitsujiTMO: so I'm in the boot setup thing, but everything USB-related *seems* to be activated
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled2: cool. now any settings in the bios fir usb?
[16:46] <tailcalled2> under "Integrated Peripherals" both USB Controller and USB Device Legacy Support are activated
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> tailcalled2: hmm... try changing usb legacy support off
[16:46] <tailcalled2> ok
[16:46] <Kalel> Greetings.
[16:47] <tailcalled2> ok, testing
[16:47] <anew> i'm trying to follow this tut for installling this software... problem is everything i find is for GUI... how can i do this with cli ?
[16:47] <anew> http://safebrowsing.developers.nogisa.com/wiki.hidemyass.com/Tutorials:HMA_VPN_via_PPTP_on_Ubuntu_setup
[16:47] <Kalel> I'm attempting to run opengl 3.0 on ubuntu 13.04. Is it already available?
[16:48] <tailcalled2> hitsujiTMO: it's working now, thank you :)
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | tailcalled2
[16:49] <zackiv31> anyone know how to list all kernels installed in grub2/ubutun 13.10 ?
[16:49] <attack> How to block trace route utility?
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> zackiv31: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> attack: i'm presuming that question is college homework?
[16:50] <attack> yup..!! But I didn't get any solution for that. Help me out pls!!
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> attack: trace route uses icmp. so block icmp
[16:51] <Rory> attack: Use a firewall
[16:51] <Rory> !ufw | attack
[16:52] <Acid_Meltdown> how often should i run 'sudo apt-get update'?
[16:52] <anew> anyone have any ideas on that ?
[16:52] <yash069> hitsuITMO: what about other services that rely on icmp ?
[16:53] <attack> I gave my best. But I didn't. eg., sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp 8 -j REJECT
[16:53] <k1l_> !away > dziegler_off
[16:53] <attack> eg2.,sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type 0 -j REJECT
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> yash069: if you want to block trace route then you must block icmp. theres very little practical reasoning for blocking trace route at least so i'd never advise doing it in a real world situation
[16:54] <yash069> Acid_Meltdown: set a cron job, for a week or so if u r on desktop/laptop
[16:55] <yash069> Acid_Meltdown: if on server it should be more frequent...
[16:56] <anew> hitsujiTMO, what do u think of that link
[16:56] <Acid_Meltdown> so for personal usage, good rule of thumb is 'bout a wk
[16:56] <Guest76143> hitsujiTMO, for mounting the .img file, what folders do I need to copy to the new install to restore the user settings from the backup?
[16:56] <yash069> hitsujiTMO: ok.
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> anew: hide my ass sucks to be honest. set up your own vpn on a reliable vps provider
[16:57] <anew> hitsujiTMO, any suggestions?
[16:58] <anew> how does it suck, it has like 40,000 ip's
[16:58] <tread> Sziasztok
[16:58] <tread> Hi all!
[16:58] <Acid_Meltdown> HIYA!
[16:58] <yash069> anew: sudo apt-get install pptp-linux
[16:58] <ese_> hello, my old hdd crashed, so i install this other hdd with ubuntu configured for another laptop, when i boot from this hdd the system complains about graphic card running in low resolutions, mouse and touchpad not woring either, how can i reconfigure those_
[16:58] <ese_> ?
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> anew: whenever i tested it i got very little throughput
[16:58] <anew> so who did u go with
[16:58] <anew> and i cant even get it to run... how the hell did u get it to run
[16:59] <anew> yash069, doing that now
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> anew: i rent a dedicated server from ovh and have a vpn set up on a vps on that
[16:59] <yash069> anew: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient#PPTP
[16:59] <zackiv31> I'm currently on saucy, but running kernel 3.8.0-19-generic .. is that correct? i can't seem to install any linux-headers fori t
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> zackiv31: linux-headers-generic
[17:00] <anew> hitsujiTMO, yeah but u wont get access to the thousands of ip's hma has that way... how did u get hma to run? it always fails on getting the  ip
[17:00] <Stark7> so xubuntu is officially supported?
[17:00] <yash069> Stark7: yes!
[17:00] <Pici> Stark7: Yes. They also have an official support channel at #xubuntu
[17:00] <Pessimist> anew, Don't use hide my ass -- they log everything about you
[17:01] <Acid_Meltdown> are toshiba's inherently Linux friendly?
[17:01] <anew> i mean who the heck am i supposed to use then
[17:01] <anew> they have so many ip's where else can i get that
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> anew: i cant remember tbh, it was a while ago. I also don't need 1000s of ips. 4 does it for me.     why do you want soo many ips?
[17:01] <Pessimist> anew, http://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-that-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2013-edition/
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: yes
[17:02] <Stark7> yash069, Pici hitsujiTMO thanks for the confirmation
[17:02] <Rory> anew: ipredator is run by some PirateBay founders, and lets you pay in bitcoins
[17:02] <anew> i am making this for a client
[17:02] <anew> on an ubuntu server
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> Guest76143: the user setting will be in varous hidden folders in /home/username
[17:02] <anew> he refuses to not use hma... because of all the ip addresses they have
[17:03] <anew> and the success he had in the past
[17:03] <Stark7> ah peace of mind
[17:03] <anew> i need to automate some tasks for him... already have the perl script written
[17:03] <zackiv31> hitsujiTMO, that installs 3.11 headers, not 3.8... where are the 3.8 ones ?
[17:03] <anew> but cant fkn connect to hma !!
[17:03] <anew> ubuntu 13.01 kill me
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> zackiv31: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[17:03] <anew> *13.10
[17:03] <anew> ubuntu 13.10
[17:03] <Guest76143> hitsujiTMO, should I copy all the hidden folders to my home folder then?
[17:03] <Stark7> i have some security ques. but thats for another day
[17:03] <Keanu73> Hi there. :P
[17:04] <Pessimist> anew, no one uses hma here because they log everything about their users and would give out all information in a heartbeat. Also this is support for Ubuntu -- the operating system, not the software it runs.
[17:04] <Pessimist> anew, so please stop
[17:04] <Keanu73> yup, this a ubuntu support channel :P
[17:04] <anew> ...
[17:04] <Keanu73> for any help for problems on Ubuntu
[17:04] <Acid_Meltdown> ...can i support your ubuntu?
[17:04] <anew> hitsujiTMO, can i PM you since u had it running before
[17:04] <zackiv31> hitsujiTMO, 13.10 Saucy
[17:04] <Keanu73> well, you don't mean support, I mean you need help
[17:04] <Keanu73> IF you need help
[17:05] <Acid_Meltdown> lol
[17:05] <Keanu73> but
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> anew: i dont respond to pms
[17:05] <Keanu73> you can donate to Ubuntu :P
[17:05] <Keanu73> just go to the Downloads page and download ubuntu desktop
[17:05] <Keanu73> and a donation screen will appear
[17:05] <yash069> lol, stop spamming here... Keanu73!
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> Guest76143: if you want the exact same setup then yes. personally i'm a little picky as i use different de's so i only copy over settings for individual apps
[17:05] <Keanu73> yash069: Oops, sorry, I have to much messages to say lol.
[17:05] <Acid_Meltdown> if you can navigate ubuntu well, does that mean a transition into Mint will be easier?
[17:05] <Pessimist> !oneline
[17:06] <Keanu73> !online
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> zackiv31: 13.10 doesn't have 3.8 kernel. is this from an upgrade?
[17:06] <quem> Keanu73: your performance in Coppola's Dracula from 1992 was dreadful, man.
[17:06] <Keanu73> o.o
[17:06] <zackiv31> hitsujiTMO, yes... on a macbook retina as well
[17:06] <yash069> Acid_Meltdown: yes, Mint is much easier
[17:06] <zackiv31> how do i upgrade to 3.11 ?
[17:06] <Keanu73> I didn't join that peformance...
[17:06] <Keanu73> if you're saying it to me?
[17:06] <Guest76143> hitsujiTMO, will it also copy old network settings as well?
[17:06] <Keanu73> *if you're saying it to me,
[17:06] <Keanu73> it must be another Keanu
[17:07] <Keanu73> :3
[17:07] <Acid_Meltdown> i didnt know which one i wanted, so i got both instead, anything beats windows H8
[17:07] <Keanu73> there's about two Keanus
[17:07] <Keanu73> :3
[17:07] <FloodBot1> Keanu73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <Keanu73> oops
[17:07] <Keanu73> damn
[17:07] <yash069> lol
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> Guest76143: yes if you have them stored in your home dir
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> zackiv31: you'd have to either upgrade to kernel 3.11, or add in the repos from 13.04 with apt-pinning.
[17:08] <Keanu73> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710096/
[17:08] <zackiv31> yah i just installed linux-image-generic... we'll see how this goes
[17:09] <Keanu73> just starting my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS OS on VMware Player :3
[17:09] <Keanu73> as a VM
[17:09] <Keanu73> [virtual machine]
[17:10] <Acid_Meltdown> during updates, i get all the way to [connecting to packages.medibuntu.org] then it stalls at 100%, any suggestions?
[17:10] <Keanu73> and by the way, what is a SMBus controller?
[17:10] <yash069> ok, so u are 10years old ?
[17:10] <ktanner> for coding games, should i go with mono, java, or other
[17:10] <yash069> ^Keanu73
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> Acid_Meltdown: medibuntu doesnt exist anymore
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> Acid_Meltdown: remove it from your sources
[17:11] <Acid_Meltdown> that would probably be a good reason to stall
[17:11] <Acid_Meltdown> ....i need a linux class....
[17:11] <Keanu73> ahem, what's a SMBus controller?
[17:13] <Keanu73> Keanu73Ubuntu is my other nick on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS VM on XChat
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> Keanu73: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Bus
[17:13] <Keanu73Ubuntu> Hi guys :3
[17:13] <Acid_Meltdown> hiu
[17:14] <Keanu73> hmm, I wonder how to enable the SMBus controller, on startup it says this terminal message: SMBus controller not enabled!
[17:15] <UbuntuUserX> Um, so I have two really weird problems. The first is... I have a virus that's changing words to Leopard.
[17:15] <Acid_Meltdown> do you speak Leopard?
[17:15] <UbuntuUserX> When I went to google solutions to my first problem (mouse and keyboard not working after suspend)... I get, well "Mouse and leopard stop working after suspend or ... - Ask Ubuntu"
[17:15] <Keanu73> UbuntuUserX: Hmm, okay, what's the type and the name of the virus? For example for a type, Trojan horse?
[17:16] <UbuntuUserX> Keanu73, Erm... I don't know.
[17:16] <UbuntuUserX> I can provide screen shots
[17:16] <Keanu73> okay
[17:16] <Keanu73> show me them
[17:16] <Keanu73> and I'll take a look of how to solve them
[17:17] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: do you know if it is a virus or just autocorrect?
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> UbuntuUserX: is this just in the browser or is it systemwide?
[17:17] <Keanu73> UbuntuUserX: Query me the screenshots.
[17:18] <UbuntuUserX> http://pbrd.co/1eEMd7P
[17:19] <Keanu73> UbuntuUserX: umm, I don't see any problem there
[17:19] <Keanu73> you'd better provide a screenshot of what the virus is DOING
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> UbuntuUserX: check your browser extensions
[17:19] <sunmoon> hi all
[17:19] <UbuntuUserX> http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2014-01-07_13_16_56-ox7ID3Uf.1389115186.png
[17:20] <UbuntuUserX> hitsujiTMO, Okay
[17:20] <sunmoon> am looking for help on how to get usb speakers(without audio jack) to work on xubuntu..
[17:20] <sunmoon> can anyone please point me in the right direction?
[17:20] <anew> anyone knwo why when i edit interfaces to this http://pastebin.com/iPDH5Q9v
[17:20] <anew> i cant even connect to my linode remotely ?
[17:21] <anew> *my ubuntu
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> UbuntuUserX: looks like an extension like http://pterocorn.blogspot.ie/2011/10/ponify.html
[17:21] <HDRDanny> Would anyone be kind enough to help me out with EasyBCD and Ubuntu?
[17:21] <UbuntuUserX> Chrome Extensions are: Addblock, Aswatia Scrollbars, Facebook Fast Delete, FVD Downloader, Google Mail Checker, HTTPS Everywhere, Logitech smooth scrolling, tweetdeck, Wolfram alpha, XKCD substitutions and Sotero
[17:21] <UbuntuUserX> Zotero*
[17:22] <ClientAlive> I need to create a launcher for a web app (installed locally). I  think it could be done by setting the path field in the gnome desktop thing to something like : "firefox /path/to/app" but how would I write the command in that field to have it execute in a shell?
[17:23] <anew> should i be using openvpn or pptp ?
[17:23] <Guest76143> hitsujiTMO, are any settings stored in /etc or any other folders that control network configuration?
[17:23] <sdn3rd> when I am trying to remove a ppa via: apt-add-repository --remove name/ppa it's not actually removing it
[17:23] <sdn3rd> anyone know how to fix it?
[17:23] <ClientAlive> would it be : "exec firefox /path/to/app"? Or can I assume that anything given in that feild will automatily execute in a shell anyway?
[17:24] <UbuntuUserX> So... I have no idea because all of those extensions don't say they change keyboard to lepoard, and the XKCD one is off.
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> UbuntuUserX: sounds like XKCD substitutions is the culpret
[17:24] <jordan__> anyone know why my ubuntu is suddenly telling me to insert my installation disk to install certain files. p.s i havent got one i just used an old usb
[17:24] <metasansana> where is the template stored for .bashrc?
[17:24] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skeyboardleopard/oheflacdocadefgdpiimpapbkomhgbbe/details is exactly what you are describing and XKCD substitutions does the same thing...
[17:24] <sdn3rd> nvm downloading ppa-purge
[17:24] <UbuntuUserX> spearhead, Oh. Well what the heck is it?
[17:25] <theadmin> metasansana: /etc/skel is where the files for new users are stored.
[17:25] <sdn3rd> /usr/share/doc/adduser/examples/adduser.local.conf.examples/bash.bashrc
[17:25] <UbuntuUserX> Lovely. Viral chrome extensions. Yet another reason I should have stayed on firefox.
[17:25] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: they are extensions that replace every instance of a specified word with another word...
[17:25] <sdn3rd> you could do a sudo updatedb
[17:25] <sdn3rd> then locate .bashrc
[17:25] <sdn3rd> to find that info
[17:25] <metasansana> thanks!
[17:26] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: did you not install XKCD substitutions?
[17:26] <ese_> hello, i change my hdd from and old pc when this origibal hdd crashed last night, that old hdd have ubuntu in it, am in that hdd rightnow, but ubuntu complains about low graphic resolution, mouse and touch pad is not working either, how can i reconfigure my xorg, that old pc had a amd visio graphic card, this laptop have a intel integrated, please help?
[17:26] <UbuntuUserX> spearhead, No
[17:26] <UbuntuUserX> spearhead, Why would I install a virus on purpose?
[17:27] <chemist^> ese_, have you tried updating?
[17:27] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: does anyone else use your computer, cause it could be a prank... and they aren't viruses
[17:27] <sdn3rd> X -configure
[17:28] <chemist^> ese_, because just changing a hdd with ubuntu installed to another computer with different hardware... i dunno if everything is going to work out of box :)
[17:28] <sdn3rd> ese_: X -configure
[17:28] <ese_> ok, trying, yes i update and upgrade
[17:28] <UbuntuUserX> spearhead, I don't let people use it, Its fully LUKS-ed (Linux) and TrueCrypted (Windows), and I have a password on every account. But, that means nothing since my girlfriend could have done it. Idk, I'll ask once shes home.
[17:29] <chemist^> what?
[17:29] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: you can find it in the chrome webstore and see what it actually does.
[17:29] <UbuntuUserX> spearhead, I don't exactly watch it 24/7, so she could have installed it when I was doing course work or something.
[17:29] <glitsj16> jordan: you probably have the cd-rom defined as a possible repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list, check and comment out the line with a # in the front
[17:29] <UbuntuUserX> Anyway, my *REAL* problem is that my built-in (laptop) trackpad and keyboard fail to work after suspending.
[17:29] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: it really isn't a problem, just remove the extension
[17:29] <UbuntuUserX> spearhead, Already did.
[17:30] <chemist^> UbuntuUserX, why do you use suspend?
[17:30] <chemist^> i hate that stuff
[17:30] <HDRDanny> Would anyone be kind enough to help me out with EasyBCD and Ubuntu?
[17:30] <jordan__> can someone tell me why ubuntu is suddenly asking for my istallation disk to install certain software. p.s. i havent got one i just used an old usb
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> UbuntuUserX: if xkcd substitutions isnt it it could also be a chrome theme
[17:31] <chemist^> sleep, hibernation, suspend....
[17:31] <UbuntuUserX> hitsujiTMO, I think it was, because it seems to have gone away.
[17:31] <chemist^> HDRDanny, state your question
[17:31] <glitsj16> jordan__: you probably have the cd-rom defined as a possible repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list, check and comment out the line with a # in the front
[17:31] <HDRDanny> chemist^, I have ubuntu installed on D:/ but GRUB won't boot.
[17:31] <UbuntuUserX> chemist^, Because its a laptop, and carry it from lecture to lecture. Shutting it down would be too time consuming, and would drain battery more.
[17:32] <chemist^> HDRDanny, did you install grub on your masterboot when you installed ubuntu?
[17:32] <chemist^> UbuntuUserX, ok
[17:32] <Kalel> is opengl 3 available for ubuntu 13.04? I'm searching obout and got nothing yet..
[17:32] <HDRDanny> I figured it did that on its own, as it said it was, but when I booted, it booted right into Windows instead, no prompts.
[17:33] <chemist^> yeah you failed to install grub correctly
[17:33] <chemist^> you'll have to run your live cd again
[17:34] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: has this happened a lot? and have you done any updates recently?
[17:34] <Keanu73> o.o
[17:34] <Keanu73> what
[17:34] <Keanu73> the
[17:34] <Keanu73> heck
[17:34] <Keanu73> happened?
[17:34] <FloodBot1> Keanu73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <Pici> !netsplit | Keanu73
[17:34] <ClientAlive> Tried to create a launcher icon for a locally installed web application, using gnome desktop. I am not seeing it show up in the dash though. Any suggestions? Do I need to ln -s /usr/bin /some/unknown/place ??
[17:34] <Keanu73> oops
[17:34] <Kalel> !opengl | Kalel
[17:35] <chemist^> HDRDanny boot into your live CD or USB, and we'll repair your grub
[17:35] <Keanu73> Pici: Why are you netsplitting me?
[17:35] <chemist^> together
[17:35] <Pici> Keanu73: Because you're asking whats going on, that is what is going on.
[17:35] <HDRDanny> chemist^, only one machine.
[17:35] <HDRDanny> But, I'll figure it out.
[17:35] <Keanu73> ah
[17:35] <HDRDanny> :)
[17:35] <chemist^> look on google
[17:35] <chemist^> repair grub
[17:35] <chemist^> it's a few simple steps
[17:35] <Pici> !google
[17:35] <bazhang> !fixgrub
[17:35] <bazhang> chemist^, ^
[17:36] <chemist^> :)
[17:36] <UbuntuUserX> Anyway, I have a Toshiba Satellite P50. It's got 16GB of RAM, so that isn't the issue. Why would my keyboard and mouse just stop working after suspend, and how can I prevent or repair this?
[17:36] <chemist^> i don't know how to use this bot thing yet
[17:36] <chemist^> quite new here
[17:36] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: has this happened a lot? and have you done any updates recently?
[17:36] <bazhang> chemist^, /msg ubottu and find out if you wish
[17:37] <Pici> !brain > chemist^
[17:37] <UbuntuUserX> spearhead, Yes and yes. Every single time I suspend, and I update daily. Its been happening since I bought the laptop 2 weeks ago.
[17:37] <spearhead> !bot | chemist^
[17:37] <jp> Hello All! I am trying to get openvpn working either via command line or in GUI / gnome. 12.04 lts server build.
[17:37] <glitsj16> ClientAlive: if you made a small typo or added an unexecutable path in your .desktop file's Exec line it doesn't register in the dash i believe .. pastebin would help to see what you did
[17:37] <ClientAlive> Just found out that it put the launcher icon on the desktop. When I move it to the launcher bar it moves there fine but only a copy. When I delete the one on the desktop it deleted the other one too.
[17:37] <jp> failed to find GID for group openvpn from CLI when I try to start it
[17:37] <chemist^> ok tnx
[17:37] <spearhead> UbuntuUserX: try out this solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182922
[17:38] <ClientAlive> glitsj16: What to pastebin? The .desktop file?
[17:38] <glitsj16> ClientAlive: yes
[17:38] <ClientAlive> glitsj16: Don't know if you saw this above: ""Just found out that it put the launcher icon on the desktop. When I move it to the launcher bar it moves there fine but only a copy. When I delete the one on the desktop it deleted the other one too.
[17:39] <glitsj16> ClientAlive: yes, but too late sorry .. tried dragging it into the launcher from your file manager?
[17:39] <ClientAlive> glitsj16: Still should pastebin it? I recall that when creating other launchers I needed to create a sim link in /usr/bin before it would show up in the dash. What would I sim link /usr/bin to though?
[17:40] <UbuntuUserX> spearhead, That only seems to be for trackpads, and without my keyboard I'll have to reboot just to say if it worked or not.
[17:40] <glitsj16> ClientAlive: don't know without more info on what command you have in that .desktop file
[17:40] <chemist^> UbuntuUserX, i believe it's an x-sever related issue
[17:41] <ClientAlive> githogori_: I can try that but how to remove the dt icon and still have it work
[17:41] <ClientAlive> ?
[17:41] <chemist^> UbuntuUserX, what DE are you using?
[17:41] <chemist^> which*
[17:41] <ClientAlive> glitsj16: one moment, will past it
[17:41] <ClientAlive> paste
[17:41] <UbuntuUserX> chemist^, Unity
[17:42] <chemist^> UbuntuUserX, try logging-out and back in with a different de...and see if it still blocks it
[17:42] <ese_> hello, still no luck, i boot ok under textmode but when i try to boot in gnome the system freezes, what about if i reinstall gnome and X ?
[17:42] <ClientAlive> glitsj16: Do you know the path to the .desktop files? whereis is not helping much
[17:42] <glitsj16> ClientAlive: try to save the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications, that's a recommended place for user-created ones
[17:42] <spearhead> CLientAlive try moving your .desktop file to /usr/share/applications then search for it in dash
[17:42] <chemist^> ese_ you'd better boot in text mode, copy your important files and do a fresh install
[17:43] <ClientAlive> spearhead: thx. will try
[17:43] <ese_> or someone told me how to remuve the ATI driver and install the intel graphics_
[17:43] <UbuntuUserX> chemist^, I'm not installing the entirety of gnome-shell just to see if it happens to work...
[17:43] <ClientAlive> Do anyone know where the path to the .desktop files?
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> UbuntuUserX: you screen shot shows you using gnome3 not unity http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2014-01-07_13_16_56-ox7ID3Uf.1389116547.png
[17:44] <ese_> chemist^: the problem is cdrom or dvdrom is busted
[17:44] <chemist^> you can use gnome2
[17:44] <chemist^> UbuntuUserX, i don't like unity personally... i prefer both kde and gnome
[17:44] <spearhead> ClientAlive: it is the file that you created
[17:44] <ktanner> for coding games in linux and reducing dependency heck with intra-crossplatforming and binary distribution, should i go with XNA (mono), java, c/c++, python, purebasic, freebasic, gambas, blender bge? wait for leadwerks?
[17:44] <glitsj16> ClientAlive: you said you had it on your desktop no? might be in ~/Desktop in that case
[17:44] <UbuntuUserX> hitsujiTMO, That one also has two screens. Different computers.
[17:44] <chemist^> ese_, make a live usb
[17:44] <UbuntuUserX> hitsujiTMO, I was googling how to make my keyboard work on a second computer since the first one has a broken keyboard
[17:45] <UbuntuUserX> hitsujiTMO, Well... not broken, disabled?
[17:45] <chemist^> !live-usb | ese_
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> UbuntuUserX: i see, my bad
[17:45] <ClientAlive> glitsj16: spearhead: That icon is now deleted. Does that mean the .desktop file was deleted too? I know there is a default location for .desktop files but don't recall where.
[17:45] <chemist^> !usb | ese_
[17:46] <chemist^> yeey i did it :D
[17:46] <spearhead> ClientAlive: look in trash to see if the icon is there
[17:46] <ClientAlive> ahh yes
[17:46] <sunmoon> hi all..
[17:46] <spearhead> !cookie | chemist^
[17:46] <chendry> hello, all!  I've noticed that when I use Ubuntu 12.04.03 64bit, the load averages are about 70% of what they would otherwise be on a server with identical load running x32.  Can I conclude that a x64 server should be able to handle more load?
[17:46] <ClientAlive> spearhead: No it is not in trash
[17:46] <chemist^> ;DD njamnjam
[17:46] <sunmoon> am looking for assistance on how to get usb speakers(with no audio jack) to work on my newly installed xubuntu..
[17:47] <gordonjcp> sunmoon: plug them in
[17:47] <spearhead> ClientAlive: then you will probably have to recreate it... here is a good how-to for adding stuff to launcher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[17:47] <glitsj16> ClientAlive: it might be gone, or you could do a sudo updatedb and after that do a locate on the filename if you remember that
[17:48] <sunmoon> gordonjcp, done that and they don't work on my tower or on my friends laptop..
[17:48] <gordonjcp> sunmoon: can you see them in the sound control panel?
[17:48] <OerHeks> chendry, yes, 64 bit has more and bigger registers, commands and security
[17:49] <chendry> DerHeks: awesome!  Well that is fantastic to know.  Thank you!
[17:50] <spearhead> sunmoon: are they both running xubuntu?
[17:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:52] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[17:52] <sunmoon> gordonjcp: cannot find sound control panel..
[17:53] <gordonjcp> sunmoon: right click on the speaker symbol in the top right
[17:53] <fire> how to convert man page into text file ?
[17:53] <sunmoon> spearhead: yes, both running xubuntu..
[17:53] <Pici> fire: man something > something.txt
[17:53] <fire> Pici: yes doing the same thing but it contains some other characters as well, which makes reading difficult
[17:53] <sunmoon> done that, doesn't show it..
[17:53] <OerHeks> !info gman
[17:53] <spearhead> sunmoon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1129625
[17:55] <Gnea> !raid
[17:55] <spearhead> fire: why do you want to convert man page to text file?
[17:55] <sunmoon> thanks spearhead, checking it out now..
[17:55] <fire> spearhead: going on a journey so want to take out the print out
[17:55] <jp> anyone for the openvpn issues ? http://pastebin.com/GXE7d407 (config) http://pastebin.com/3MkwsEG5 (syslog)
[17:55] <jp> thanks in advance
[17:56] <ClientAlive> glitsj16: spearhead: thx but I'm gonna have to save this for later now. Something came up
[17:57] <fire> Pici: spearhead any idea ?
[17:57] <spearhead> fire: you could go to http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi and type in command and print off resulting page...
[17:57] <Pici> fire: using man -7  might help
[17:58] <spearhead> fire: or copy and paste into text file
[17:58] <fire> spearhead: that's a good idea
[18:00] <spearhead> fire: I't not getting any wierd characters doing man command > file.txt
[18:00] <spearhead> I'm*
[18:01] <fire> <standard input>:873: warning [p 12, 10.3i]: cannot adjust line
[18:01] <fire> this is the warning that is displayed
[18:02] <spearhead> fire: hmmm, i'm getting a different warning... what command are you trying?
[18:02] <fire> same as you,  man command > command.txt
[18:02] <Gnea> !vbox
[18:03] <spearhead> fire: yes but which "command" are you trying to print the man page of?
[18:03] <fire> man page are created using different type settings till i know
[18:03] <fire> spearhead: man ssh
[18:04] <sunmoon> spearhead: usb speakers are not being recognized in command line when lsusb is typed..
[18:05] <spearhead> sunmoon: have you tried different usb ports and are the speakers powered from usb or external power?
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> sunmoon: not recognised or not showing up?
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> sunmoon: can you pastebin output of: lsusb
[18:06] <spearhead> fire: interesting I am getting 6 warnings for different lines but still no wierd characters... could you pastebin the resulting txt file?
[18:07] <sunmoon> spearhead:yes i've tried all ports. they are powered via the usb, no external power. and i am 100% sure that they are in good working order.
[18:07] <cheekee> I haven't received any updates from  apt-get since last year. Is this the same for everybody? I use 13.10
[18:08] <Pici> cheekee: What command are you using?
[18:09] <cheekee> sudo apt-get update/upgrade
[18:09] <sunmoon> hitsujiTMO:root@sunmoon-desktop:/home/sunmoon# lsusb
[18:09] <sunmoon> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[18:09] <sunmoon> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0458:003a KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems) NetScroll+ Mini Traveler / Genius NetScroll 120
[18:09] <sunmoon> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:09] <sunmoon> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:09] <FloodBot1> sunmoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <sunmoon> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:09] <Calinou> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:09] <Calinou> cheekee, use that
[18:09] <spearhead> !paste | sunmoon
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> sunmoon: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:11] <sunmoon> sorry all, will use correct syntax in future.
[18:12] <d4rkt1m3s> AIDS
[18:12] <d4rkt1m3s> AIDS
[18:12] <d4rkt1m3s> AIDS
[18:12] <FloodBot1> d4rkt1m3s: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <spearhead> why would someone want to flood #ubuntu on purpose?
[18:14] <OerHeks> number of readers, wild guess
[18:14] <compdoc> to get back at the evil corporations?
[18:16] <Emopunk> hi all
[18:16] <nautiluss> what is the official name for the connection on the back of a router for telephone lines?
[18:17] <k1l_> nautiluss: you will have better chances in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[18:17] <nautiluss> k1l, maybe
[18:19] <fire> spearhead: yeah just a min
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> nautiluss: rj-11
[18:19] <OerHeks> nautiluss, rj11 for phone and rj45 for ethernet
[18:20] <jbwiv> hi guys. I'm having a lot of problem with mtp on Kubuntu 13.10. I can navigate folders on my phone, but when I get to the deepest folder where content is it says "Could not enter folder /SM-N900V/Card/SomeFolder". anyone else having this problem?
[18:21] <nautiluss> OerHeks, thanks
[18:21] <DrShoggoth> is it possible to do an efi install if my flash drive doesn't boot efi?
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> DrShoggoth: why exactly won't it boot?
[18:24] <hussain> novice to ubuntu but want to program, will any one help me??
[18:25] <Gnea> hussain: what would you like to create?
[18:26] <hussain> i want create a simple program and run, then i will try for more itself.
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> hussain  in what language
[18:27] <senthilkumar> need a help.. i have a python script and also i need to run it as root.. i have created a .desktop on /usr/share/applications/ .. who to ??
[18:27] <DrShoggoth> hitsujiTMO, It boots just fine,  but the usb stick doesn't boot in EFI mode,  the hd does just fine (win7)
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> senthilkumar: sudo python-sript.py or sudo python python-script.py
[18:27] <intrader> Anyone, I have just installed 7zip. I am unable to find in the terminal or Dash Home. The package manager finds it. How do I execute it?
[18:27] <hussain> MonkeyDust: in c++
[18:28] <senthilkumar> hitsujiTMO: yes.. how to create a .desktop file for that ??
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> DrShoggoth: how exactly is it not booting in uefi tho? your system need to be in uefi mode to access the mbr during the install so you will need to boot the installer in uefi mode
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> hussain  do some reading in books, or online, tutorials... have a plan, that sort of things
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> senthilkumar: you don't. you don't call sudo from a .desktop file
[18:29] <hussain> monkeydust: helping book?
[18:31] <spearhead> hitsujiTMO: you can gksudo though
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> hussain  go to a shop or library
[18:31] <senthilkumar> hitsujiTMO: Ok.. how to create a desktop entry for that to run it as root
[18:31] <hussain> monkeydust: ok thanks but any need to install before starting?
[18:32] <DrShoggoth> hitsujiTMO, It is in uefi mode, but the boot screen for the boot drive is graphical vs the text grub loader i should get on efi.. unless it is changed in 13.10
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> senthilkumar: as spearhead suggested, you could call it with gksudo instead, as this will show a graphical request fro the user password
[18:33] <senthilkumar> hitsujiTMO: thanks you.. i found it.. its gksu python script.py should be added in the desktop entry file
[18:33] <hussain> monkeydust: vr gone?
[18:33] <butters> anyone able to help me solve this - SMART ERROR 32 on my ssd drive i got
[18:33] <DrShoggoth> hitsujiTMO, I set the mount point of the EFI partition to /boot/efi and when I install it asks for a "Reserved BIOS boot area"
[18:34] <butters> im getting this S.M.A.R.T. error 32 on my corsair ssd that i just installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS on and it's a little confusing.
[18:34] <DrShoggoth> should I just ignore and go on maybe?
[18:34] <compdoc> butters, dont is not very helpful. can you pastebin smartctl?
[18:34] <DrShoggoth> hitsujiTMO, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  <--- i was using this guide
[18:35] <compdoc> *butters, SMART ERROR 32 is not very helpful. can you pastebin smartctl?
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> DrShoggoth: when you boot, open the bios/uefi boot menu. ensure you're booting the usb as UEFI:usbname  and not: BIOS:bootname             i've seen different grub likes screens on different uefi systems so i wouldn't expect any particular boot screen screen
[18:37] <butters> smart ctl? compdoc ?
[18:38] <hitsujiTMO> butters: sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[18:38] <henrys_> hi does anyone have a problem with torrents where multiple torrents will crash the internet connectioN?
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> henrys_: sounds like you router can't handle the number of connections
[18:39] <spearhead> or your isp
[18:39] <DrShoggoth> hitsujiTMO, I'm going to give this a shot... maybe I can get my stuff working in BIOS mode and ditch EFI alltogether
[18:40] <butters> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710517/
[18:40] <henrys_> hm ... k
[18:41] <butters> but that seems to show my second drive, not the ssd that i am having issues with
[18:41] <Jayabharat> Hi, I am trying to debug a system crash.
[18:41] <henrys_> damnit yeah I suppose it's the router
[18:42] <OerHeks> butters change sda to sdb
[18:42] <demophobia> I'm looking at http://www.staples.com/USB-Wireless-Adapters/cat_CL165749?fids=4224931275 (trying to support local businesses) and am wondering which are compatible with Ubuntu 12.04 ...
[18:42] <demophobia> !wireless
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> butters: seems that was the wrong device. use sdb or sdX where X is the letter for that drive
[18:42]  * demophobia reads https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[18:42] <butters> yea, i did sdb
[18:43] <butters> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710530/
[18:43] <ObrienDave> demophobia, stay away from broadcom and belkin. more problems with those
[18:43] <butters> makes no sense that it failed really since the whole system is running on it.
[18:43] <bekks> broadcom works fine here for years.
[18:43] <demophobia> ObrienDave: how can I tell if it's Broadcom?
[18:43] <butters> ObrienDave, which I would have thought of that when i got this Asus(Broadcom chip) usb wireless adapter for this desktop :(
[18:44] <ObrienDave> it just seems like we get many more questions about those than other brands
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> butters: reading the smart info is different to reading the drive itself. could be dodgy firmware. or could be an issue with the drive itself
[18:45] <ObrienDave> demophobia, you'll have to dig into the chipset specs. broadcom makes sets for other brands as well
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: to be honest its difficult to tell what you're getting when you buy a udb dongle. many manufacturers use different chipsets under the same model.
[18:46] <butters> i think the drive is fine. It's not been used , ever.
[18:46] <demophobia> "udb dongle"?
[18:46] <butters> doesn't mean it can't be bad, just assuming it's not, considering.
[18:46] <limace255> demophobia: lol
[18:46] <demophobia> 'usb dongle', huh? http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-usb-dongle.htm ...
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> s/udb/usb
[18:46] <limace255> udb --> udp over usb ? :]
[18:46] <demophobia> 'udp'?
[18:46] <ObrienDave> lol
[18:47] <demophobia> UDP, huh? http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/definition/UDP ...
[18:47] <Jayabharat_> I am trying to debug a system crash that occurst during screen brightness adjustment.. system passed memory test > I loaded text console > but now I donot have a SysRq key in my keyboard. What to do next. Any suggestions?
[18:47] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> butters try a firmware update. if theres still an issue i'd look for a replacement
[18:49] <Jayabharat_> I am trying to debug a system crash that occurst during screen brightness adjustment.. system passed memory test > I loaded text console > but now I donot have a SysRq key in my keyboard. What to do next. Any suggestions?
[18:49] <demophobia> Looks like I'll have to open https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported on my cell phone at the store and check each card out ... The inventory at my Staples does not necessarily match what's displayed online, which is somewhat inconvenient ...
[18:51] <Shutterstrom> Good evening! How can I add a folder called /share to my homedirectory?
[18:52] <limace255> Shutterstrom: making a symbolic link
[18:52] <Shutterstrom> limace255: Thanks! I'll look it up.
[18:52] <t-ready> hey all - I just copied my (older) production environment of a pkg over to my dev server, & my dev server still thinks the (newer) version is installed.  is there a way to get apt/dpkg to re-scan that dir/pkg to recognize the older version that I copied over?
[18:53] <Shutterstrom> limace255: Will that symbolic link be permanent or do I have to create that on every boot?
[18:53] <limace255> no no, permanent, if your target is
[18:54] <utusan> Shutterstrom: it's permanent
[18:54] <Shutterstrom> limace255: Thanks!
[18:54] <limace255> de nada ;-)
[18:54] <Shutterstrom> :-)
[18:56] <utusan> it will still be there if target is not there but will be tag invalid
[18:56] <simpleuser> Hi there. I like to have two distincts browsers. One for facebook, one for the other things. For the whole web i've got firefox. I'd like to use something else than chromium for facebook. Midori and Epiphany are very tricky with the website. It's displaying fb one time on 10.
[18:56] <simpleuser> Any idea of a browser i could use ? Thanks.
[18:57] <pc> konqueror
[18:57] <spearhead> simpleuser: why not just have two windows of the same browser open?
[18:57] <simpleuser> i'm under wxfce.
[18:57] <simpleuser> xfce*
[18:58] <simpleuser> spearhead, for privacy.
[18:58] <smacktalk1> anyone use rdesktop?  I'm trying to log into my windows box from my linux laptop and it keeps telling mt the password is incorrect....and I know that it isn't
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> simpleuser: run firefox in privacy mode for firefox
[18:58] <simpleuser> I'm using Ghostery for now but i'd like to get rid of it.
[18:59] <pc> simpleuser - chromium is sandboxed?
[18:59] <simpleuser> pc ?
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> simpleuser: in ff: file -> new private window.......  you could also use a different profile for firefox: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Multiple_Firefox_Profiles
[19:01] <simpleuser> Thanks hitsujiTMO. Can i use different profiles at the same time?
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> simpleuser: i don't see why not.
[19:02] <simpleuser> Ok thanks.
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> simpleuser: its been a while since i've used them
[19:02] <simpleuser> ok
[19:03] <hitsujiTMO> simpleuser: "If you would like to also allow multiple instances of Firefox to run at the same time, add "-no-remote" after the profile name."
[19:03] <hitsujiTMO> simpleuser: this suggests that you can
[19:03] <loki_> what is good rss client for ubuntu?
[19:04] <simpleuser> ok thanks hitsujiTMO :)
[19:05] <linelevel> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 laptop, which has two mouse inputs built in (a touchpad and a Trackpoint). Sometimes (seemingly when RAM is low and hdd/swap activity is high), the touchpad just stops working, and doesn't come back until I reboot the machine. The Trackpoint mouse controller never stops working.
[19:05] <linelevel> I'm wondering: Is there a way I can get the touchpad to "reset" so it starts working again without restarting the computer?
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: http://feedly.com/#welcome <- popular browser based reader
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: sorry wrong user
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> loki_:  http://feedly.com/#welcome <- popular browser based reader
[19:07] <Aargin> Hi
[19:07] <Aargin> :D
[19:07] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, no i need something with tray notifications
[19:07] <loki_> for example i want know when new version of wine arrive
[19:07] <loki_> and i want add some rules.
[19:08] <tommytwotoe> Hello, I have just installed Ubuntu 12 LTS 64x  | I was wondering if there is a way I can print my specs and show them to you in hopes of figuring out why I am running SO laggy.
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> tommytwotoe: what gpu do you have?
[19:10] <tommytwotoe> Nvidia 620 2gb
[19:10] <gman> !liat
[19:10] <gman> !list
[19:10] <Burrito> why do people always try doing !list? :V
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> Burrito: noone knows. some italian thing anyway
[19:10] <Jayabharat_>  I am trying to debug a system crash that occurst during screen brightness adjustment.. system passed memory test > I loaded text console > but now I donot have a SysRq key in my keyboard. What to do next. Any suggestions?
[19:10] <Burrito> hah
[19:11] <gman> sorry guys new to irc :P
[19:11] <tommytwotoe> hitsujiTMO: Nvidia gtx 620 2gb  is my gpu
[19:12] <gman> trying out leeching
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> oooooh, this one speaks english.
[19:12] <Burrito> uhm, tommytwotoe, try 'glxinfo' and paste that to pastebin. You can then show that pastebin to someone who knows about that (probably someone here).
[19:12] <tommytwotoe> Burrito:  Okay I will do that Thank you
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> gman: this is a support channel. not a warez channel. this server doesn't even allow leeching
[19:13] <DJones> gman: You don't need to leech, you can download the Ubuntu iso's from their own website, pirated materials aren't available on it
[19:13] <tck9> is there anything else that needs to be done on ubuntu other than enabling ipv4 forwarding to allow servers on an internal network to access teh internet throguh the frontend ubuntu server? the frontend has eth0 with internet access and eth1 is the private local network
[19:13] <bibicheko> Hello. How change battery sensor? My șensor is BATTERY
[19:13] <dougl> ubuntu 14.04 = LTS too?
[19:13] <helz> sorry disconnected; how can i have multiple incognito sessions running with distinct cookies?
[19:13] <DJones> dougl: Yes it will be
[19:14] <Burrito> tommytwotoe, glxinfo's output is verbose and scary (at least for me), the things I understand are mostly at the top of its output.
[19:14] <dougl> DJones, Thanks - err, how do they decide that?
[19:14] <pedro_> hi
[19:14] <Darkangel> yes dougl
[19:14] <gman> hitsujiTMO: easy
[19:14] <pedro_> hola
[19:15] <DJones> dougl: LTS releases are every two years, so 10.04, 12.04, 14.04 etc
[19:15] <dougl> hi
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> tck9: this is what i use http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710711/
[19:15] <Burrito> helz, incognito as in [chrome/chromium]? Maybe try looking at the "--user-data-dir=DIR" tag, and make them different for each of your sessions? That's from google-chrome's manpage.
[19:16] <Darkangel> if ur lookin for a better gaming Ubuntu OS go for 14.04 LTS 1 of there goals in 14.04 is gaming
[19:16] <twotoetommy> Burrito: That command does not exist it said
[19:16] <Darkangel> when it comes out
[19:16] <pedro_> español
[19:16] <helz> Burrito: nice i'll look into that
[19:16] <DJones> !es | pedro_
[19:16] <Aargin> Hi :D
[19:16] <dougl> DJones, thanks for the info... I trashed my 12.04 install and was disappointed when I installed 12.10 thru 13.10.... looks like I get another kick at the cat :)
[19:17] <tck9> hitsujiTMO: thanks, that worked.
[19:17] <Burrito> tommytwotoe, 'sudo apt-get install mesa-utils' - but I think you are missing more than that if you are having a lot of lag. Hopefully glxinfo will tell us.
[19:18] <twotoetommy> Burrito: Ya It isnt gpu lag eather. This is a new build should work fine. Ill do that and come back
[19:18] <hitsujiTMO> tck9: you can also do port forwarding with something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710721/
[19:22] <Ratay23> hi
[19:22] <Ratay23> i'm new in Ubuntu
[19:22] <Ratay23> and I've been Windows user for years
[19:22] <Ratay23> any suggestions for me?
[19:22] <Ratay23> for example
[19:23] <Ratay23> why I can't use my iPhone in Ubuntu?
[19:23] <Pici> Ratay23: Stop pressing enter every 3 words, for one.
[19:23] <Ratay23> ;sorry
[19:23] <twotoetommy> Anyone know why everytime I try to install anything I get this. | http://pastie.org/8610961 |
[19:23] <FireStorms> I have removed Zeitgeist from Ubuntu 12.10, will I be prompted to install it again -- maybe under recommended updates -- when updating my system?
[19:24] <Ratay23> so?
[19:24] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone Ratay23
[19:24] <Ratay23> thanks!
[19:25] <gman> anyone using subtle desktop in ubuntu??
[19:26] <Ratay23> it stopped working on iOS7
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> Ratay23: that's a known issue
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> bazhang: Ratay23: I have an iOS 7 device, there's no updated iPhone libraries for the latest OS I think
[19:27] <Ratay23> TheLordOfTime, is it any solution available?
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> Ratay23: i haven't found one yet...
[19:27] <Ratay23> ok. thanks
[19:28] <twotoetommy> Wierest thing I try to install mesa-util and it tryed to instal oracle-jdk7  why would that be ??
[19:28] <Ratay23> you see, I like Ubuntu, but these things make it I have to use Windows: (
[19:29] <Ratay23> what software in Ubuntu do you reccomend to live stream?
[19:31] <Y2KVet> I'm using grsync to back up files.  I wish to back up two different directories: my home directory (/home/ted, works fine) and my Web directory, /var/www/. Grsync doesn't like that.  And yes, I read the instructions.
[19:31] <swithdark1> plaise server cart credit ?
[19:32] <gman> my subtle desktop installation stops working when i start evince  anyone know how to solve this problem??
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> !info subtle
[19:48] <Pavelcz> What should I do with apt://vmware-view-client:i386
[19:48] <Pavelcz> ?
[19:49] <linelevel> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 laptop, which has two mouse inputs built in (a touchpad and a Trackpoint). Sometimes (seemingly when RAM is low and hdd/swap activity is high), the touchpad just stops working, and doesn't come back until I reboot the machine. The Trackpoint mouse controller never stops working.
[19:49] <linelevel> I'm wondering: Is there a way I can get the touchpad to "reset" so it starts working again without restarting the computer?
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: is the touchpad a synaptics one?
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> !vmware | Pavelcz
[19:51] <dondopa> how do you tell dnsmasq what the gateway is?
[19:51] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: Yes.
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: you could prob bring it back to life with the synclient app: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[19:52] <c_smith> Hey, Steam keeps crashing on Ubuntu (this doesn't seem to happen on Gnome or another spin/distro) if needed, I have a wgetpaste of the terminal output ready
[19:52] <possum_> guys i have a problem, my system freezes on boot with "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility"
[19:52] <possum_> and nothing else happens
[19:52] <c_smith> the crashes are kind of random, sometimes right away, sometimes after a while
[19:52] <possum_> i have been waiting for hours
[19:52] <possum_> i googled a bit but nothing really helped
[19:52] <possum_> im using fglrx
[19:53] <possum_> i tried apt-get --reinstall install fglrx but it says "not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[19:53] <c_smith> possum_, did you try running amdconfig --initial -f
[19:53] <dondopa> Where exactly in dnsmasq.conf do i need to go to choose what gateway i want dnsmasq to use?
[19:53] <possum_> c_smith: no let me try that
[19:54] <c_smith> possum_, that might be your issue, X will do that if on fglrx and amdconfig --initial -f hasn't been run.
[19:54] <possum_> c_smith: it worked before though
[19:54] <Abcdez> Hello, I am on 13.10, using an USB 3G dongle (ZTE K3765-Z) to connect to the internet. It seems that the "Automatically connect to this network when it is available" doesn't exactly work, otherwise I can connect by selecting the profile manually. Is this a known issue?
[19:54] <c_smith> possum_, before you installed fglrx?
[19:54] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: Do you know a particlar command I can test by any chance? It seems that I already have synclient installed, but the list of possible options/commands is vast.
[19:54] <possum_> just randomly one day it stopped. i checked whether ~/.Xauthority is owned by me instead of root because i fouind that on google, and indeed it was root owned, i chowned it to myself, but still nothing
[19:55] <c_smith> if so, that's likely because you had the OSS radeon drivers which doesn't need it.
[19:55] <possum_> c_smith: i didnt touch the fglrx and randomly today it stopped booting
[19:55] <possum_> c_smith: i have been on the fglrx for months
[19:55] <c_smith> possum_, give that command a run and reboot. let us know what comes of it. :D
[19:55] <possum_> c_smith: i just tried your amdconfig command and rebooted, now im stuck at the same System V thing again
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: try: synclient TouchpadOff=0
[19:56] <c_smith> possum_, alright, that means there's something else.
[19:56] <spq_> hi there, i want to install ubuntu 13.10 to a new hdd, but prefer to be able to still work with my computer until im ready to switch the hdds, can i do this with virtualbox or something?
[19:56] <c_smith> possum_, have you upgraded the kernel recently?
[19:56] <possum_> ok
[19:56] <possum_> :(
[19:56] <possum_> c_smith: maybe the autoupdate did it
[19:56] <possum_> let me check the kernel version
[19:56] <c_smith> possum_, uname -a will tell ya
[19:56] <possum_> uname -a says 3.2.0-57-generic
[19:57] <dondopa> Does anyonehere use dnsmasq?
[19:57] <c_smith> alright. and fglrx version?
[19:57] <spearhead> !enter | possum_
[19:57] <possum_> c_smith: it says NOV 12
[19:57] <possum_> c_smith: let me find out the fglrx version again, i grepped something before
[19:57] <possum_> just a sec
[19:57] <possum_> it was 9.1.something
[19:57] <c_smith> possum_, an easy way is fglrxinfo
[19:57] <possum_> c_smith: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep fglrx | grep -i version sayus 9.1.11
[19:57] <possum_> says*
[19:58] <possum_> c_smith: fglrxinfo says Error: unable to open display (null)
[19:58] <possum_> but this is from ssh
[19:58] <c_smith> possum_, yeah, had a feeling that wouldn't work, the fglrxinfo
[19:58] <rostam> HI using ubuntu 12.04 LTS update 3, Missing files/directories: I have observed on afew of my systems, sometimes after reboot some of files or directories are missing,any idea why? thx
[19:58] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: That did nothing. Before running it, I ran `synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff` and it was already set to 0. Also, I should mention: the touchpad 'tapping' still does something even though the touchpad doesn't work otherwise: when this problem happens, a normal "tap" acts like a right-click (as opposed to the usual left-click).
[19:58] <c_smith> possum_, 9.1.11, give me a sec to look that up
[19:58] <possum_> c_smith: this is 12.04 btw
[19:59] <possum_> ok
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> rostam  what files?
[19:59] <bekks> rostam: Missing files are a strong indicator of a corrupted filesystem or an unclean shutdown.
[19:59] <possum_> well 12.04.3 LTS
[19:59] <dondopa> Does anybody here use dnsmasq? I want to choose my gateway but I have no idea which line i must edit....
[19:59] <c_smith> possum_, you're using a beta (there's a MUCH newer stable version on AMD's site)
[19:59] <possum_> oh intersting c_smith
[19:59] <c_smith> the fact that it's the old beta version might be the issue.
[19:59] <rostam> I have some files set in the /root. which they gets missed sometimes.,
[20:00] <rostam> Do I need to force fsck on boot?
[20:00] <possum_> c_smith: i dont even remeber how i installed it, the weird thing is taht apt-get --reinstall install fglrx says "cannot be downloaded"
[20:00] <possum_> c_smith: so maybe i have to add a repository with a newer version?
[20:00] <c_smith> possum_, the Ubuntu Wiki has an article on this.
[20:00] <bekks> rostam: No, reboot into a livecd and run fsck -f
[20:00] <c_smith> possum_, you probably used AMD's script.
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: maybe try turning it off and on again: synclient TouchpadOff=1 && synclient TouchpadOff=0
[20:00] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: Rebooting always fixes the problem, but is very inconvenient (obviously). I was hoping there's a way to stop/start a service or something that would reset its state.
[20:00] <possum_> c_smith: does "cannot be downloaded" mean the repository is missing?
[20:01] <c_smith> possum_, no clue.
[20:01] <possum_> c_smith: would i have to purge it first?
[20:01] <possum_> c_smith: whast recommended, the script or a repo?
[20:01] <c_smith> possum_, well, normally the official repos. but you've gone beyond that for 12.04 and run into issues, so the newest version looks likely to be the best bet.
[20:02] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: That didn't fix it either. I split it into 2 commands: after setting TouchpadOff=1, tapping did nothing. After reseting TouchpadOff=0, the previous behavior (can't move the mouse, tapping right-clicks) was restored.
[20:02] <c_smith> possum_, here's Ubuntu's wiki page about fglrx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:02] <rostam> bekks, these systems are installed at customer sites, we can do livecd on each system,. Is there anyway we can force fsck during boot?
[20:02] <Abcdez> Hello, I am on 13.10, using an USB 3G dongle (ZTE K3765-Z) to connect to the internet. It seems that the "Automatically connect to this network when it is available" doesn't exactly work, otherwise I can connect by selecting the profile manually. Is this a known issue?
[20:02] <possum_> c_smith: actually i think i never ran AMD's script,
[20:03] <c_smith> possum_, huh, then you might have the repo version.
[20:03] <possum_> c_smith: thanks, it says "The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Additional Drivers manager in Ubuntu." but there is no explanation what "Adiitional Drivers manager" is or how to use it
[20:03] <c_smith> possum_, I take it you're using Ubuntu and not a spin?
[20:03] <possum_> yes c_smith
[20:03] <c_smith> possum_, open the dash and type "drivers"
[20:04] <c_smith> should bring up a result for the driver manager.
[20:04] <possum_> c_smith: it says command not found
[20:04] <possum_> if by dash you mean terminal
[20:04] <possum_> note that i dont have a gui
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: is there any info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:04] <c_smith> possum_, d'oh
[20:04] <possum_> :D
[20:04] <c_smith> forgot you had not X use
[20:05] <bekks> rostam: Try "sudo touch /forcefsck" and reboot.
[20:05] <rostam> bekks, thank you so much
[20:05] <c_smith> possum_, k, just purge the current version "sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-dev fglrx-amdcccle" and run "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and reboot
[20:05] <c_smith> possum_, that'll make it revert to the OSS drivers.
[20:06] <possum_> c_smith: ok let me try that
[20:06] <c_smith> possum_, then open the Unity dash when you get to X and find the driver manager
[20:06] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/X6V5xqqC
[20:06] <c_smith> possum_, the driver manager is a X11 app, so it won't run in the commandline
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: can you pastebin the full log
[20:07] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: It's 175 KB
[20:07] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: err, actually 702 KB
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: when was the last time you rebootd?
[20:08] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: let's see.. uptime is 4 days, 16:46
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: can you reboot, sleep, wakeup then pastebin the file.    thats particularly big for such a short period
[20:09] <linelevel> I can't conveniently reboot now. That's why I came in here to ask about this.
[20:09] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: ^
[20:09] <dondopa> Does anybody here use dnsmasq? I want to choose my gateway but I have no idea which line i must edit....
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: pk, pastebin the full file then please: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:11] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6710980/
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: synaptics driver is dumping a lot of backtraces in the log. can you report a bug on launchpad.net please. and please add the Xorg.0.log
[20:13] <kriskropd> I need to be able to read epub files in bash shell, much like pdftotext
[20:13] <kriskropd> suggestions?
[20:13] <possum_> c_smith: it is still computing or something
[20:13] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: Sure, I'll do so now. In the mean time, is there a way I can reset the driver? I'm sure (from past experience) that it will start working once I reboot.
[20:14] <possum_> stuck at "removing all DKMS modules"
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO>  linelevel might need to restart X/lightdm
[20:14] <c_smith> possum_, not sure what you mean
[20:14] <linelevel> Right, I meant without closing any of my X apps.
[20:16] <spearhead> kriskropd: i know epubs are basically a zip file with different configuration you should be able to unzip it and get to each individual page. im not sure that is what you want though
[20:17] <dougl> hello hitsujiTMO :)
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> linelevel: not that i can think of
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: yo!
[20:17] <dougl> :)
[20:17] <kriskropd> spearhead: nice tip, okay thanks ill research in that direction and maybe make my own script
[20:17] <linelevel> hitsujiTMO: Okay. Thanks for your help.
[20:18] <possum_> c_smith: i just mean the apt-get purge command is still running
[20:18] <possum_> but it finished now
[20:18] <possum_> let me reboot
[20:18] <c_smith> possum_, alright
[20:19] <possum_> c_smith: "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place Errors were encountered while processing:initramfs-tools E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[20:19] <possum_> damn it says no space left on device
[20:19] <possum_> i have to free some space
[20:19] <Jeffro_> dougl , u here
[20:19] <possum_> or some initram stuff
[20:19] <c_smith> possum_, what is your partition scheme? seperate /boot partition?
[20:19] <dougl> Jeffro_, yes
[20:19] <possum_> it says failed to extend /tmp/mkinitramfs_blah
[20:19] <dougl> welcome
[20:19] <Jinxed-> Could someone help explain to me what is supose to be configured in the Apache Konfiguration section:http://www.vimp.com/en/web/faq-installation/items/installing-webserver-webhosting-and-vimp-on-debian-and-ubuntu.html
[20:20] <possum_> maybe this is because the boot got stuck
[20:20] <Jinxed-> I am not very familar with apache, and the documentation is very vague on what to change and even where the file to change is located
[20:20] <Jeffro_> thanx dougl
[20:20] <possum_> c_smith: not a separate boot partition normally
[20:20] <possum_> c_smith: i got 1000s of msgs like this: cp: failed to extend `/tmp/mkinitramfs_PNGyo3//lib/modules/3.2.0-57-generic/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sil24.ko': No space left on device
[20:20] <Jeffro_> why did we change chat rooms
[20:20] <possum_> which is part of the apt-get command
[20:20] <c_smith> possum_, alright. try running sudo update-initramfs -u
[20:21] <possum_> c_smith: same 1000s of messages again
[20:21] <dougl> Jeffro_, here we describe our 2 attempts to connect and format our external hard drives on our 10.xx ubuntu toshiba and hopefully someone like hitsujiTMO will help us out
[20:21] <possum_> i have to free space i guess
[20:22] <possum_> im seeing 100% on /dev/sda in df
[20:22] <possum_> well /dev/sda1
[20:22] <c_smith> possum_, that points to a bad install.
[20:22] <c_smith> I think your X11 issues stem from the issue that looks to be a bad fs
[20:22] <possum_> c_smith: no just a full disk
[20:23] <c_smith> possum_, ah, in any rate, I gotta go, hopefully someone here can help. :D
[20:23] <possum_> :(
[20:23] <dougl> what is the best way to connect and format external hd in ubuntu 10.10
[20:23] <possum_> its just a full disk
[20:23] <dougl> err 10.04
[20:23] <c_smith> possum_, true, but I have work I gotta get to. procrastination ftl. XD
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: what filesystem is ont the drive atm?
[20:24] <possum_> ok thank sfor yuor help so far c_smith !
[20:24] <c_smith> possum_, no prob. hopefully you get your issue resolved
[20:24] <possum_> yeah
[20:24] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, cant tell but he does not care what is on there I suspect ntfs but as of yet fdisk nor gparted would even see the unit
[20:25] <jhutchins> dougl: What kind of connection?
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: pastebin output of: lsusb
[20:25] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, is dated hardware we are helping Jeffro_  with
[20:25] <dougl> Jeffro_, you seeing this?
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit
[20:26] <Jeffro_> i  am now but I had to get out of query
[20:26] <dougl> k
[20:26] <dougl> we have some good attention here
[20:27] <dougl> Jeffro_, "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" at ~
[20:27] <foxmulder_> .net
[20:29] <tony_> is there a x64 version of virtualbox ?
[20:29] <Jeffro_> dougl u lost me on that one
[20:29] <loki_> hello, why this can happen? http://pastebin.com/fBWSS1b0
[20:29] <dougl> Jeffro_, type "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" at your terminal prompt
[20:29] <loki_> I event have no nvidia-current
[20:30] <jhutchins> tony_: Yes.
[20:30] <dougl> Jeffro_, quit gparted
[20:30] <kriskropd> tony_: yes, check the virtualbox website for downloads
[20:30] <Jeffro_> ok
[20:30] <tony_> jhut . hapen to have a link for it ? its not showing in ubuntu sotfware center
[20:32] <tony_> k
[20:32] <Jeffro_> dougl  terminal is doing something
[20:32] <Jeffro_> dougl "Setting up pastebinit (1.1-1) ... THIS API HAS BEEN DISABLED. Please use Pastebin's new API. http://pastebin.com/api"
[20:32] <dougl> Jeffro_, type "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" at your terminal prompt will download and install and chekc usb stuff and give you a url
[20:32] <Jeffro_> dougl  was that it?
[20:33] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, his repos are out of date?
[20:33] <spearhead> loki: try removing the :i386
[20:33] <kriskropd> dougl: apt-get update
[20:33] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: ^^
[20:33] <dougl> Jeffro_, no do a "sudo apt-get update" in terminal
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: the pastebinit in that repo is too old. 2 secs
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: lsusb | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[20:34] <daniel_> can someone give me the link to Petra im running mint 11
[20:35] <kriskropd> daniel_: this is #ubuntu ...
[20:36] <Jeffro_> hitsujiTMO  over my head please explain. I am a neophyte
[20:36] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: do you have a terminal open, simply copy and paste, or type each piece of the command in by hand
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: can you type this exact command into the terminal:         lsusb | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[20:37] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: either version (command with pastebinit or sprunge) will rpoduce a URL that contains the output so we can see what you see
[20:37] <kriskropd> produce*
[20:37] <Jeffro_> hitsujiTMO got install curl
[20:38] <dougl> k
[20:38] <Jeffro_>  hitsujiTMO installed curl
[20:39] <Jeffro_> dougl curl installed
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: just rerun the command above then
[20:39] <loki_> spearhead, i need i386 package
[20:40] <spearhead> loki_: is your os 32 or 64 bit?
[20:40] <foxmulder_> .fearwave.net
[20:40] <loki_> spearhead, my os is 64 bit, but i need i386 version of dev headers
[20:40] <loki_> to compile wine
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: to install a i386 package append :i386 to the package name
[20:41] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, oh hello, can you look my messages earlier?
[20:42] <Jeffro_> dougl gpt curl: no URL specified! curl: try 'curl --help' or 'curl --manual' for more information
[20:42] <loki_> i have problem and can't solve it.
[20:42] <spearhead> hitsujiTMO: that isn't working for him see http://pastebin.com/fBWSS1b0
[20:42] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/fBWSS1b0
[20:42] <loki_> here it is
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: have you installed an nvidia driver from a ppa?
[20:42] <loki_> no
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: are you using a ppa?
[20:43] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, wine ppa
[20:44] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, i have not installed nvidia-current
[20:44] <loki_> i have 319 version
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: can you pastebin: dpkg --get-selections
[20:44] <loki_> so i can't even understand what is the problem
[20:44] <loki_> ok
[20:44] <spearhead> !enter | loki_
[20:46] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/5068Vzvb
[20:47] <Jeffro_> hitsujiTMO got this "http://sprunge.us/gYOA"
[20:48] <dougl> Jeffro_, HAD to take the dog out... are we progressing now... I am on the macnw soI suck
[20:48] <Jeffro_> dougl got this message "http://sprunge.us/gYOA"
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: ok, so it seems to be able to see the hardware at least
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: can you type this exact command into the terminal:         sudo fdisk -l | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[20:49] <Jeffro_> oh really I don't see it
[20:49] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, why such message appear only when i try install that package? What is link between it and nvidia? O_o
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: 04cf:8818 is the hdd caddy
[20:49] <Jeffro_> ok
[20:51] <kriskropd> loki_ hitsujiTMO : I could be wrong, but couldn
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: not sure. can you pastebin output of: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:51] <kriskropd> couldnt you simply add the i386 architecture to dpkg?
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: thats aded already
[20:51] <dougl> Jeffro_, let me get a linux box back here... thismac is crap
[20:52] <Jeffro_> where do you see "04cf:8818"?
[20:52] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/2XmM4XdQ
[20:52] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: its in the output you shared with us at sprunge, its the Myson Century Bridge Controller device
[20:53] <Jeffro_> thaj
[20:53] <dougl> Jeffro_, is posted on internet with the commands you use
[20:53] <Jeffro_> thanks Kriskrop
[20:53] <Jeffro_> how come I don't see it>
[20:54] <spearhead> Jeffro_: its this line: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04cf:8818 Myson Century, Inc. USB2.0 to ATAPI Bridge Controller
[20:54] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: try viewing the url you shared      'curl -s "http://sprunge.us/gYOA" | grep Myson'
[20:56] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: could you run this command hitsujiTMO suggested a few lines up?             sudo fdisk -l | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: try running autoremove and then try installing the lib again
[20:56] <lonewulf85> Hey can anyone tell me of a good program to convert pdf into epub and other ebook formats?
[20:56] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: fdisk is a lot better for indicating which storage devices you have attached to your machine
[20:56] <kriskropd> lonewulf85: there is Callibre, but it might be a bit bulky for your needs
[20:57] <dougl> Jeffro_, you will learn alot here abd these folks are nice to just listen to... how have you avoided learning linux if you have an install from 2010?
[20:57] <lonewulf85> kriskropd, How many formats does it convert to?
[20:58] <kriskropd> lonewulf85: I'm not sure, it's been awhile since I used it - it converted to amz3 epub, pdf mobi and a few others I think
[20:59] <lonewulf85> kriskropd, Okay I will check it out thanks.
[20:59] <Jeffro_> ????? just an end user my brother help some but he doesn't know as much as you guys
[21:00] <spearhead> dougl: ubuntu makes it easy to not learn linux if you don't want to...
[21:00] <loki_> what meen 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 33 not upgraded. ? Why 33 not upgraded?
[21:00] <kriskropd> lonewulf85: do experiment with Callibre before giving it access to all your ebooks - it has its own way of organizing books on the file system that may or may not appeal to you
[21:00] <dougl> agreedx2
[21:00] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, it don't help, same error again.
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: run: sudo apt-get upgrade to get rid of that message
[21:01] <Jeffro_> dougl  r u guys programers?
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: pastebin: apt-cache policy libfreetype6-dev:i386 && apt-cache show libfreetype6-dev:i386
[21:02] <lonewulf85> kriskropd, I am just needing it to convert the Halo books to a format my nephews player will read.
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: can you also run:         sudo fdisk -l | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: and give us the link
[21:03] <dougl> Jeffro_, not me i am a tinkerer who breaks his computer all the time so i use kubuntu cuz ur up and running in less than an hours
[21:03] <kriskropd> lonewulf85: I'd give you a simple command line program if I knew of one, but I tend to avoid epub format out of preference
[21:04] <lonewulf85> kriskropd, Yeah me to but his mp3/e reader is a cheep one so yeah.
[21:04] <Jeffro_> hitsujiTMO got  http://sprunge.us/RZQM
[21:05] <HDRDanny> Would anyone like to help me load up Windows 7 onto a new GRUB record?
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> lonewulf85: whatever happened to the days of reading tolkein or roald dahl? be warned that i've yet to seen a converter that converts to epub gracefully.
[21:05] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/3rRczUaw
[21:06] <Beldar> HDRDanny, Sudo update-grub in ubuntu does not add it?
[21:06] <HDRDanny> No.
[21:06] <Beldar> sudo*
[21:06] <HDRDanny> I'm downloading a tool called GRUB Customizer though.
[21:07] <lonewulf85> hitsujiTMO, He is reading tolkien right now he just finished the hobbit and is moving on the the lord of the rings, He just also want to read the Halo books.
[21:07] <Beldar> HDRDanny, the customizer will not add it, have you perhaps used the bootrepiar app?
[21:08] <Beldar> !bootscript | HDRDanny run and post
[21:08] <duhamel> hello all. i am wondering how to remove app labels from desktop in ubuntu 13.10
[21:09] <Jeffro_> dougl  What's going on here?  I am trying to follow but am getting lost.
[21:09] <HDRDanny> It's updating GRUB
[21:09] <HDRDanny> Okay.
[21:09] <HDRDanny> One sec.
[21:09] <duhamel> icon labels i should shay. i tried gconf-editor but it didn't work.
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: its difficult to tell whats going wrong. the atapi bridge is visible, but not the drive. So the drive could be not connected correctly inside, or else the disk itself may be deceased
[21:09] <Jeffro_> what is "http://sprunge.us/RZQM" do?
[21:10] <HDRDanny> Beldar, http://pastie.org/8611277
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: http://sprunge.us/RZQM is the output of the command
[21:10] <Beldar> HDRDanny, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ this is the script
[21:11] <dougl> sorry i bailed there Jeffro_ brb
[21:11] <Jeffro_> hitsujiTMO ok
[21:11] <duhamel> google keeps telling me to use gconf-editor but it has no affect.
[21:11] <Jeffro_> dougl no problem. u don't know how much I appreciate the help
[21:11] <Beldar> HDRDanny, I was trying to trigger the bot with !bootscript to give you that url.
[21:12] <HDRDanny> Beldar, http://pastie.org/8611287
[21:12] <anew> i am running a vpn on ubuntu, how can i check my ip after i connect to the vpn? when i ifconfig i still see the ip of my machine
[21:12] <dougl> Jeffro_, happy to do it in my case and these other guys are pretty nice in my experience...
[21:13] <HDRDanny> anew: ipchicken.com ?
[21:13] <duhamel> anybody know of a stetting in nuatalis somewhere to get rid of desktop icon labels?
[21:13] <duhamel> or a command in terminal?
[21:13] <anew> yeah duh will install lynx
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> anew: whatismyip.com
[21:14] <Beldar> HDRDanny, I see windows listed, it should be in your grub menu, have you modified the grub menu?
[21:14] <HDRDanny> Yeah, just now.
[21:14] <HDRDanny> That's what I was saying.
[21:14] <Jeffro_> dougl, I see
[21:14] <HDRDanny> GRUB Customizer had it in the options to add or not to add.
[21:14] <HDRDanny> I should be good to restart, right?
[21:15] <Beldar> HDRDanny, Ah well what was the end goal?
[21:15] <HDRDanny> Wanted to properly dual boot with GRUB as the MBR.
[21:15] <kriskropd> anew: I was afk - if you have curl you can simply run 'curl -s ipecho.net/plain' and it will give you what appears as your external IP from that shell
[21:16] <HDRDanny> Okay.
[21:16] <HDRDanny> Gonna reboot.
[21:16] <HDRDanny> Wish me luck. :P
[21:16] <Beldar> HDRDanny, Cool, yeah maybe the customizer added it I did not think it had that option, sure reboot and check it.
[21:16] <dougl> 14,04 grub install just bricked my box ~ go team ubuntu - lol
[21:17] <rww> dougl: congratulations on finding a bug in an unsupported testing release. Launchpad bug filing time!
[21:17] <kwame> Hi, I'm attempting to increase the # of open files for the mysql user in ubuntu 12.04
[21:17] <duhamel> does anybody know how to remove icon labels from desktop in ubuntu 13.10. Editing font size in gconf-editor>apps>nautalis>Preferences didn't work
[21:17] <anew> i had to edit my nameservers in resolve.conf
[21:17] <kwame> I edit the limits.conf file but when I login as the mysql user my changes are not showing up for that user
[21:17] <anew> but this is not permanent
[21:17] <anew> how cani make these changes permentn
[21:17] <dougl> rww, where is my prize - lol
[21:17] <spearhead> dougl: 14.04 support is on #ubuntu+1 if you want help...
[21:18] <kriskropd> !cookie > dougl
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> Anew: edit the head  ... /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[21:18] <kwame> any ideas?
[21:19] <dougl> nah spearhead not guving up that quick...
[21:19] <dougl> LOL
[21:19] <spearhead> Jeffro_: what kind of external hard drive enclosure are you using? can you open it to make sure the connection to the hard drive is good?
[21:19] <Beldar> dougl, I would be careful in getting pumped up that it was 14.04's fault when more than likely not.
[21:20] <spearhead> Beldar, dougl: it could be a picnic...
[21:20] <Glycan> I can't make a binary file executable because it's on a FAT filesystem. It works if I copy it over, but I don't want to. How do I figure out what to run it with?
[21:21] <HDRDanny> Beldar, it works.
[21:21] <HDRDanny> ctcp version HDRDanny :)
[21:21] <Beldar> HDRDanny, Cool, good job.
[21:21] <Jeffro_> spearhead  I could open it, although I never have. it is a small thin ext hdd my brother gave me for xmas years ago
[21:21] <duhamel> does anybody know how to remove icon labels from desktop in ubuntu 13.10. Editing font size in gconf-editor>apps>nautalis>Preferences didn't work
[21:22] <dougl> no - I was prepared for this... its beta... no worries - I did a backup... we are all good except for Jeffro_ I AM more concerned with him he wants 13.10
[21:23] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: we are probably all thinking: 1. the disk is bad 2. the disk is nto properly connected 3. the case the disk is in is bad
[21:23] <kriskropd> not*
[21:23] <Jeffro_> dougl, when I go to system/admin/software sources and click on upgrade, system locks up
[21:23] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: when we see issues like this, it appears as a ahrdware issue
[21:23] <dougl> hmmm
[21:23] <kriskropd> hardware*
[21:24] <Jeffro_> kriskropd, with the hdd or the laptop?
[21:24] <Beldar> HDRDanny, I wonder if maybe windows needs a chkdsk run, the os-prober should have loaded it.
[21:24] <dougl> Jeffro_, did you do a "sudo apt-get update" yet in the flurry of advice?
[21:24] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: the hdd - this is an external hdd, correct?
[21:24] <Jeffro_> sec
[21:25] <Jeffro_> dougl, no but I will do it now
[21:25] <dougl> Jeffro_, cant hurt
[21:25] <kriskropd> it might not be supported anymore ....
[21:25] <Zolomon> I can't ssh into my ubuntu server with public keys. I have set the permissions correctly. It works if I mount the server disk on my desktop, but as soon as I try with the disk back on the server box the keys are not accepted anymore. If I login with password first, and then remotely, accessing via my external IP, try to ssh into the server it works.
[21:26] <spearhead> kriskropd: is there a way to get the end of dmesg on sprunge?
[21:26] <duhamel> does anybody know how to remove icon labels from desktop in ubuntu 13.10. Editing font size in gconf-editor>apps>nautalis>Preferences didn't work
[21:26] <Jeffro_> dougl, I get alot of "W: Failed to fetch..." and "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[21:26] <Zolomon> What could be wrong? ssh -vvv gives: debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method as error.
[21:27] <spearhead> Zolomon: when you installed ubuntu did you select to have your home directory encrypted?
[21:27] <Zolomon> spearhead: yes, I think so
[21:27] <dougl> Jeffro_, maybe that is why only the dumbest one you are talking to suggested it - LOL
[21:28] <Jeffro_> dougl,  I don't know what that means except it won't work
[21:28] <kriskropd> spearhead: yes? is it not working?
[21:28] <spearhead> Zolomon: if your home directory is encrypted then unless you are logged in the sshd process can't access your authorized_keys file. there is a writeup on this somewhere let me find it.
[21:28] <kriskropd> spearhead: maybe try dmesg 2>&1 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead: dmesg | tail | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[21:28] <dougl> Jeffro_, still on the mac so hard to type but did we hit a dead end with the others helpers?
[21:28] <spearhead> I was just wondering about having Jeffro run that to see if the hdd is even recognized by the computer or some other error...
[21:28] <Zolomon> spearhead: I found it, thanks!
[21:29] <Zolomon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[21:29] <spearhead> Zolomon: yeah that's it
[21:29] <Beldar> spearhead, You a Michael Franti fan per chance?
[21:29] <spearhead> Beldar: I don't even know who that is...
[21:30] <Jeffro_> kriskropd, yes it is an external hdd
[21:30] <Zolomon> spearhead: Supermany thanks! I have been going bananas over this issue for the past two weeks.
[21:30] <Psil0Cybin>  Hey guys trying to install ubuntu server and im having problems with the keyboard it died on me mid config?
[21:30] <spearhead> Zolomon: np, i had to do that on my server too
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> like I cannot use it, and nothing lights up but they keyboard works fine on my laptop
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> it was working to get into the install menu
[21:31] <Bender> Hey guys. Is there a way to kill all running programs before a reboot?
[21:31] <Jeffro_> dougl, it seems that the dumbest one is still smarter than me. lol
[21:31] <Beldar> spearhead, He has a band with your nick as the name is all, just curious, he originally was the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy very early hip pop.
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: usb keyboard?
[21:31] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: it's mostly a matter of familiarity, not intelligence
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> nvm something is odd
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> another usb slot worked :S
[21:32] <Psil0Cybin> i might need to call the company who built the machine
[21:32] <spearhead> Beldar: yeah I just pulled him up on YouTube and yes I do like his music but my nick didn't come from that...
[21:33] <Jeffro_> kriskropd, well I am not at all familar with programing except in basic and some fortram
[21:33] <Jeffro_> fortran
[21:33] <Beldar> spearhead, Check out the disposable it has some social comment that is to the point without the modern hip pop marginalizations of groups and gender.
[21:33] <Jeffro_> long time ago, ina glaxay far far away
[21:34] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: I've never tried to progam in either of those languages, so you'd have a step up on me in that regard :)
[21:34] <Variuss> does anyone know how to add my own folder to classpath??
[21:35] <Bender> Is there a way to kill all running programs before a reboot?
[21:35] <dougl> Jeffro_, if fortran counts (ha ha) i am a programmer no pun intended :)
[21:35] <Jeffro_> it's been so long, I have forgotten every thing
[21:35] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: I'd suggest showing us output of dmesg, as spearhead noted, but honestly I wouldn't know where to start in reading that log output :/
[21:35] <piero> salve
[21:35] <Salve> piero: Not the guy you think i am. :)
[21:36] <Jeffro_> kriskropd, I agree since I don't really know what that means :(
[21:36] <steff> sudo kill [PID]
[21:36] <piero> non si capisce na mazza
[21:36] <robotti^> 
[21:36] <spearhead> Beldar: to kill all processes by a user killall -u userid
[21:36] <anew> hitsujiTMO, it says at the top of that file "do not edit this file your changes will not be saved"
[21:37] <Beldar> spearhead, I just usually do  killall "app" I have not run a userid in a long time not sure.
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> anew: thats the template that inserts the text to the generated /etc/resolv.conf        any changes to the head is permanent
[21:38] <Jeffro_> dougl, Well if we have hit a dead end, I need to take a br break.
[21:38] <Zolomon> spearhead: same problem. :'(
[21:38] <spearhead> Jeffro_: try unplugging the hard drive, plugging it back in and then running the command      dmesg | tail | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[21:38] <Jeffro_> spearhead, Ok, I wil give it a try
[21:38] <spearhead> Zolomon: did you set the permissions right on the file that you moved? and also if you want to add a key to that file you will have to do it manually
[21:38] <kriskropd> spearhead: I've a feeling tail won't give you enough information :x
[21:39] <kriskropd> spearhead: that said, it couldn't hurt
[21:39] <da1ly> Hi. I'm attempting to apply my ~/.zshrc to update zsh. Using "source ~/.zshrc" brings back that permission is denied, and running it as sudo causes an unrecognized command output. Thanks for help in advance.
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead: just give us the full output:  dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[21:40] <Zolomon> spearhead: I set permissions after creating the dir and moving the authorized_keys file, updated sshd_config to the new path, restarted ssh service
[21:40] <Jeffro_> spearhead, this is what came back "http://sprunge.us/SfRM"
[21:41] <anew> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/apM8UStc is this correct ?
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> anew: personally, i wouldn't bother with the domain or search but there may be no harm in leaving it there
[21:42] <spearhead> hitsujiTMO: does that tell you anything? it gets the disconnect and reconnect and scan... but I don't see product or vendor ids...
[21:42] <U-BUNTU> hello
[21:43] <spearhead> hitsujiTMO: to me it says that the hdd isn't connected properly...
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead: i'd assume its not finding the drive itself
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead: yeah, or its dead
[21:44] <spearhead> Jeffro_: what is the brand and model of the hard drive? there should be a sticker on it somethere
[21:46] <spearhead> hitsujiTMO: unless it is not getting any power wouldn't it still see the chip?
[21:46] <Jeffro_> dougl, just opened the Beyond Micro case and it has a 250 Gb Barracuda hdd in it
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead: no that would require power
[21:48] <dougl> nice
[21:48] <spearhead> Jeffro_: could you completely remove the hard drive and then plug it back into the case making sure the connections are good and tight
[21:48] <Jeffro_> dougl, just checked all the connections, and everything looks good. then plugged it in and ubunto sees it.   WTF
[21:49] <Beldar> !wtf | Jeffro_
[21:49] <dougl> good
[21:49] <kriskropd> Jeffro_: well I'm glad it turned out to be an easy solution then :)
[21:49] <dougl> nintendo used to work that way too
[21:49]  * kriskropd huff puff
[21:50] <spearhead> Jeffro_: sometimes in these cases the hard drive can shift just a little and cause a bad connection.
[21:50] <Jeffro_> good to know.
[21:50] <dougl> wtf = why the face?
[21:50] <Zolomon> spearhead: any other ideas on what might fix it?
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> wft = worse than failure
[21:50] <Jeffro_> what the f*ck
[21:50] <dougl> ah
[21:51] <dougl> the f word noooooo!!!!!
[21:51] <Beldar> The context of those three letters indicate what was meant
[21:51] <Jeffro_> or
[21:51] <Jeffro_> what the frack (BSG)
[21:52] <Beldar> This is a worldwide channel respect for others in this area is an obvious need and a channel rule.
[21:53] <spearhead> Zolomon: can you describe your problem again? you can ssh from your server to your computer but not the other way? and but if you ssh in with a password and then while that is still open you can ssh in with a key?
[21:53] <spearhead> using keys
[21:54] <Jeffro_> dougl, so after I do a bakup, how should I procede with a new install of Kubuntu, or should i not go with kubuntu yet?
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> guys trying to install ubunntu server i am stuck on the menu that says configure the network, the name servers are used to look up host names on the network please enter the ip address, etc
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> i have never done this before? It is a standard install from USB do i leave it blank/
[21:57] <Psil0Cybin> or go back? and change a setting?
[21:58] <dougl> Jeffro_, oh yes'
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: are you using static ips or dynamic?
[21:58] <dougl> kubuntu 13.10
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> dynamic
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> but i am installing it from the usb :P I went to go back and it continued i guess
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> and asked me to enter the hostname for the system?
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> I guess i do Rety Network Autoconfiguration
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> or will that auto name my hostname?
[21:59] <spearhead> Psil0Cybin, you can make up a host name just make sure it doesn't match anything else on the network
[21:59] <spearhead> maybe something like ubuntu-server
[22:00] <Jeffro_> dougl, do I need to put kubuntu on a cd?
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: your dhcp should have supplied namerserver then.            the hostname is a unique name for the computer.
[22:00] <JO0st> jeffro, you can install from a memory stick
[22:01] <dougl> Jeffro_, or usb
[22:01] <spearhead> Jeffro_: you can use either a cd or a flash drive. what os are you running now?
[22:01] <andresmh> I have headless Ubuntu 13.10 on a little ARM device with a wifi adapter connected to it. I'm unable to get an IP from DHCP: 'sudo dhclient wlan0' takes a while to run and when it comes back the wlan0 still doesn't have an IP. Here's the output of iwconfig and ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/ygd8Tqsb
[22:01] <Jeffro_> the largest mem stick I have is 16 gb. Is that big enough?
[22:01] <JO0st> jeffro, it certainly is
[22:02] <Jeffro_> spearhead, I am running ubuntu 10.xx
[22:02] <spearhead> Jeffro_: definately, the system you will be putting on it is only about 1Gb
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffro_: 1gb is more than enough to install it from
[22:02] <Jeffro_> Ok
[22:03] <Jeffro_> spearhead, it kubuntu an easier install than ubuntu?
[22:03] <dougl> Jeffro_, yes...
[22:04] <dougl> because ubuntu changed from what u r used to
[22:04] <Jeffro_> dougl, exactly what is the difference bewenn the two?
[22:04] <dougl> gnome and kde
[22:05] <possum_> hi i want to configure my lan as "manual" in network manager, but i dont want to set a gateway or a dns server, because there is neither. i cannot click "save" until i specify both though. what can i do?
[22:06] <JO0st> possum, if you don't have either of them your internet connection won't work
[22:07] <possum_> JO0st: corrent, and i dont want my internet connection to work on the lan because my lan is not connected to the internet
[22:07] <x_> Does anybody have a printer that does duplexing and can send me their ppd file to look at?
[22:07] <OerHeks> possum_, default would be the router adress
[22:07] <cristian_c> Hi
[22:07] <possum_> this is a common use case, lan without internet so what the...?
[22:07] <Jeffro_> dougl, don't know the difference between kde and gnome.  Shells?
[22:07] <possum_> OerHeks: there is no router
[22:07] <cristian_c> I'm using mtpaint, I've looked for in the doc, but I've not found an answer
[22:07] <OerHeks> possum_, you must have a gateway
[22:07] <cristian_c> I'd like to align the text for eample, but I don't know how to do
[22:07] <possum_> JO0st: correct*
[22:07] <possum_> OerHeks: why?
[22:07] <spearhead> Jeffro_: the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the desktop environment, ubuntu 10.xx used the gnome interface which is what you are used to, since then ubuntu has switched to unity which takes some getting used to but is really easy for the end user. KDE is the other very popular option and that is what kubuntu runs. this website has screenshots showing the basic difference between gnome and kde http://www.linuxuser.co.uk
[22:07] <spearhead> /features/gnome-vs-kde
[22:08] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[22:08] <lonewulf85> I need help installing CISCO packet tracer 6.0.1 in Ubuntu.
[22:08] <possum_> OerHeks: there is no internet and no other network to route to. this is an entirely common use case. a local area network
[22:08] <possum_> what the fnuck?
[22:08] <spearhead> Jeffro_: that url got split... http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/gnome-vs-kde
[22:09] <Jeffro_> spearhead, thanks
[22:09] <possum_> guys
[22:09] <spearhead> Jeffro_: and here you can take a basic tour of unity: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/take-the-tour
[22:09] <possum_> what the fsck is wrong with ubuntu?
[22:09] <spearhead> !language | possum_
[22:09] <possum_> i cannot even implement a totally normal use case, namely a local area network without internet?
[22:10] <possum_> spearhead: dude how did you catch me? i was veiling stuff cleverly
[22:10] <Psil0Cybin> okay perfect will try it again now
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> possum_: that nm not ubuntu. nm suuuucks
[22:10] <possum_> hitsujiTMO: THANKS
[22:10] <OerHeks> possum_,  a lan without router? or switch ?
[22:10] <possum_> hitsujiTMO: indeed
[22:10] <possum_> seems so
[22:10] <possum_> OerHeks: a switch yes
[22:10] <possum_> OerHeks: a switch does no routing or dns
[22:10] <possum_> what the
[22:11] <spearhead> possum_: context
[22:11] <possum_> heh
[22:11] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I am running the auto network configuration on the server hitsujiTMO
[22:11] <Psil0Cybin> so i am assuming if autoconfiguration failed, what would i do?
[22:12] <dougl> Jeffro_, keep me posted... I like ti see a happy kubuntu user
[22:12] <possum_> OerHeks: seriously, what kind of stool is this?
[22:12] <spearhead> dougl: are you using kubuntu?
[22:12] <Jeffro_> dougl, how do I get in touch with u again?
[22:12] <possum_> how can i create a simple lan without gateway
[22:12] <JO0st> possum_: which version of ubuntu are you using, for me it works perfectly
[22:13] <lonewulf85> Please CISCO Packet Trace 6.0.1 for linux, I need it for the netacad online course.
[22:13] <possum_> JO0st: 12.04, not sure what you mean by "work", i cannot configure it without providing a gateway and dns server
[22:13] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: I keep getting your network is probably not using the DHCP protocol
[22:13] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you can skip network config and configure it after the install has finished if theres a problem. Usually the only reason for the auto config to fail is that you have a driver issue or no dhcp
[22:13] <dougl> spearhead, yes thanks to unity...
[22:13] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[22:13] <dougl> Jeffro_, facebook?
[22:13] <Psil0Cybin> well its connected through the etherner net
[22:14] <Psil0Cybin> so ill try to do do not configure the network at this time?
[22:14] <kriskropd> lonewulf85: last time I used Cisco's Packet Tracer, they hada  gtk version avaialble in a tarball, check the website
[22:14] <Jeffro_> yep I am on there but will you be listed as dougl?
[22:14] <kriskropd> lonewulf85: admitingly that was years ago before I realized net-tech wasn't for me
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yes, but you will need to configure it manuall after ( and possibly install drivers too)
[22:14] <dougl> Jeffro_, doug larret
[22:14] <lonewulf85> kriskropd, I have a sh script meant for Ubuntu but it just does not want to work.
[22:14] <Psil0Cybin> hmmm install drivers, how would I do that if it is a new system without a CD rom drive ....ep
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> they gave me drivers in CD format, but they said it was for windows
[22:15] <JO0st> possum_: did you specify an IP addres for your own pc?
[22:15] <Jeffro_> dougl, I am Jeff Tilghman
[22:15] <dougl> Jeffro_, all pg tho
[22:15] <kriskropd> lonewulf85: should just be a simple tar.gz file with a binary inside
[22:15] <spearhead> dougl: yeah, unity made me look elsewhere too, first back to gnome 3.10, then to kde, and now I am trying i3-wm which I think i like the best... very simple and basic once you get it configured, but very hard to configure the way you want...
[22:15] <Jeffro_> dougl, ??
[22:15] <lonewulf85> kriskropd, I will try the one for linux and see.
[22:16] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: I did skip network config and now I am stuck on a purple screen
[22:16] <Psil0Cybin> is that normal or perhaps I have a problem with my usb stick install?
[22:16] <dougl> Jeffro_, ???
[22:17] <Psil0Cybin> it just shows a purple screen with a gray bar at the bottom and the black |
[22:17] <Jeffro_> dougl, all "pg tho" mean?
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: give it a minute or two.
[22:18] <apb__> trying to run a scanner program (iscan from epson)... it requires I use sudo... problem is all the defaults then assume I'm root, so each time I scan I have to manually change directories to save my files, instead of being able to click the "Documents" button and be (almost) where I want to be.
[22:18] <dougl> no xxx or swearing please on public facebook Jeffro_ lol my facebook rules :)
[22:18] <andresmh> So there's an open wifi network that shows up fine on 'iwlist wlan0' but when I connect to it, DHCP doesn't give me an IP. Any ideas?
[22:18] <spearhead> Jeffro_: you can hang out here for as long as you need and if you have any problems, someone here will help.
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: might need to just restart the install, but could be a sign of a bad install medium as you suggested.
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i am trying another USB
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> :D
[22:20] <Jeffro_> spearhead, thanx, to all of you hitsujiTMO kriskropd and dougl.  Thanx alot :)
[22:20] <Psil0Cybin> i was using a 3 gb usb, perhaps something got messed up
[22:20] <Psil0Cybin> now i am trying an 8gb usb.
[22:20] <ROPA> is there a utility program that makes the cursors loug and largr and prominent (such as microsoft has supplied with their keyboards for years)?
[22:20] <ROPA> loug = loud.
[22:22] <andresmh> I posted on askubuntu.com my issues connecting to the wifi. I'm hoping someone here might have an answer?
[22:22] <andresmh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/401800/unable-to-connect-to-open-wifi-on-a-headless-ubuntu-on-arm
[22:23] <HDRDanny> Beldar, I didn't see what you said, I went AFK and now it's gone forever. :(
[22:24] <Daekdroom> !quantal
[22:24] <Beldar> HDRDanny, I just mentioned a wonder if Windows might need a chkdsk /f/r the os-prober should have added it ti grub is all.
[22:24] <Beldar> to*
[22:25] <spearhead> Jeffro_: if you really don't like the options of unity or kde ubuntu comes with an option to load GNOME Clasic when you login which would be very similar to the gnome you are used to.
[22:25] <Beldar> afk
[22:25] <HDRDanny> Well, it's all good now. Seemingly everything is working properly.
[22:25] <HDRDanny> brb
[22:26] <HDRDanny> Back.
[22:28] <Jeffro_> spearhead, is that the initial login or normal login
[22:28] <dougiel> hey?
[22:29] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i am using startup disk creator to install the ISo
[22:29] <Psil0Cybin> but a pop up came up saying distribution upgrade
[22:29] <Psil0Cybin> i was confused and closed it
[22:29] <Psil0Cybin> was that for the server or for my system?
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: no
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what version of ubuntu are you on now?
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04 LTS
[22:30] <dougl> got my brick all tricked out again...
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> Xubuntu 12.04 LTS
[22:30] <dougl> err one more thing
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> kk. 13.10 SDC is quite buggy
[22:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: since i canceled
[22:31] <Jeffro_> gotta go, supper is ready see ya guys later.
[22:31] <Psil0Cybin> i hope i did not break my system ugh
[22:31] <Psil0Cybin> :(
[22:32] <spearhead> Jeffro_: normal login but I would recommend trying either unity or kubuntu, just to see if you like it better, if you download the iso of either of them and create a startup disk with it then you can boot to that disk and try it if you don't like it then try the other one.
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: shouldn't. no idea where that dialogue came from to. should have nothing to do with SDC
[22:33] <Psil0Cybin> same here let me try and restart
[22:33] <Psil0Cybin> and see if my computer is still fine
[22:34] <p3rsist> What do you guys think of docker?
[22:37] <Beldar> p3rsist, channel is not for polling is all, do you have an issue needing support?
[22:37] <p3rsist> Beldar, No. Thanks.
[22:37] <DaemonicApathy> Is it feasible to keep an entire user account on an external drive, usually diconnected?
[22:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: question when installing ubuntu server
[22:38] <Psil0Cybin> if im using it for a HTTP Server, php,mysql
[22:38] <Psil0Cybin> would I encrypt my home directoryu?
[22:38] <Psil0Cybin> would i still be able to display everything normally, just if the computer is off things cannot be accessed?
[22:38] <krystian> po polsku ?
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: no need. encrypting a home dir is only if you're storing personal stuff there and others can have access to the machine. that shouldn't be the case for a web server
[22:40] <Psil0Cybin> kk
[22:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO
[22:40] <Psil0Cybin> sorry question for partition method
[22:40] <Psil0Cybin> if it is a hard drive raid, I would do Guided use entire disk and set up LVM
[22:40] <Psil0Cybin> or encrypted LVM?
[22:41] <omg_scout> DaemonicApathy: Depends on your definition of feasible. For non technical users I would say "nope"
[22:42] <Psil0Cybin> ugh hitsujiTMO having more problems
[22:42] <Psil0Cybin> than I thought
[22:42] <Psil0Cybin> if I have a hard drive raided system
[22:43] <Psil0Cybin> why would It show up all my hard drives as seperate partitions
[22:43] <Psil0Cybin> does that mean it was a software raid?
[22:43] <DaemonicApathy> Well, I figured I would assign a particular user's home dir to a flash drive, and remove the name from the login list. After that, it should only take a simple script to add/remove the name from the login list when the drive is mounted. I just didn't know if I was missing anything.
[22:43] <smallfoot-> Hello
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lvm is usually an unnecessary burden on a basic server. encrypt only if you absolutely need it. is this server at home or in a datacenter?
[22:43] <Psil0Cybin> data center
[22:43] <Psil0Cybin> for work
[22:43] <yeahitsme> DaemonicApathy: you could potentially store a /home directory on another hard drive and mount it whenever you need, but you would probably need some chroot magic to get settings and login and that kind of stuff to work
[22:43] <Psil0Cybin> but it was 3 TB Drives all raided together
[22:43] <smallfoot-> How can I make the boot loader (GNU GRUB) find OS on computer and add it to list?
[22:44] <Psil0Cybin> but it shows up as seperate partitions
[22:44] <RedHatter> How can I start a process in a script with a parent of init? For example if I run `gedit &!` in a terminal top shows the parent to be zsh (my shell), how do I get it to show init as the parent like most other apps?
[22:45] <Beldar> smallfoot-, sudo update-grub
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: for lvm encrytion you need to have access at initramfs when booting to enter the encryption password (before ssh is up) so if you don't have that access then defo leave off the encryption
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> kk ty
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> but do u perhaps have a guide for raiding a system for Ubuntu Server
[22:46] <Psil0Cybin> i just bought this computer, they said they did a raid 5 with the 3 hard drives but they show up as seperate partitions
[22:46] <Psil0Cybin> they said it would be easy to do with windows, and they never did it on linux
[22:46] <DaemonicApathy> yeahitsme: I was considering adding a user with a pre-made home dir, then removing the user when the session was done, but it would be easier to have it be persistent if possible.
[22:46] <Psil0Cybin> but does that mean it was a software raid
[22:46] <Psil0Cybin> if it shows up as sepeate partitions hitsujiTMO ?
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: no, is there a raid card on it?
[22:47] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i have no idea, they took the 1 TB drives (3 of them) and told me that they would be raided as 1 Drive.
[22:47] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot figure out why it shows me three partitions.
[22:47] <Psil0Cybin> it looks like my computer picks up the three diff hard drives
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: if its seperate partitions then it sounds like no raid.
[22:47] <Psil0Cybin> as sepearate.
[22:47] <Psil0Cybin> wowowow, alright hitsujiTMO
[22:47] <possum_> JO0st:
[22:47] <possum_> JO0st: yes
[22:47] <Psil0Cybin> could they have done a software raid in the bios ? in which ubuntu does not recognize
[22:47] <possum_> JO0st: ip for my own pc
[22:48] <Psil0Cybin> could that be a posibility?
[22:48] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: or what would i do if i wanted to get all the three hard drives to be raided?
[22:48] <Bender> hey guys. Is there a way I can kill a certain process when I enter reboot into terminal? I know there are ways to make scripts execute on boot. Is there a way to accomplish this?
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: soft raid is done in the os.
[22:48] <Bender> aside from writing a script that will do it in a roundabout way
[22:48] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so I can soft raid the drives after I install the O.S?
[22:48] <Psil0Cybin> On any partition?
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[22:49] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: also if ih ave physical access to the machine i would want to perhaps encrypt LVM? As Long as when I start up the server, I have access before SSHing?
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: raid needs to be setup before the install
[22:50] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[22:50] <JO0st> possum_, for me it is possible to save the config as soon as i have entered the IP addres and subnet mask for my own pc.
[22:50] <Psil0Cybin> oh so I am in a good step
[22:50] <JO0st> also don't forget to specify the mac address of the interface you want to use
[22:50] <Psil0Cybin> I will follow the link you provided
[22:50] <yeahitsme> DaemonicApathy: if you would really want to to do it, you could probably make a persistant user with a home directory pointed at nothing, and then have your hard drive mount at the home for that user
[22:50] <Psil0Cybin> and it should be raided correct??
[22:50] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: if this is in the company datacenter then there should be no need for encrypted lvm. The only scenario that that would be needed is if you expect to have unauthorised access to the server
[22:50] <DaemonicApathy> Thanks, yeahitsme, I think that's the route I'll try first.
[22:51] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: oh okay
[22:51] <Psil0Cybin> perfect :)
[22:51] <rabbitnightmare> hey I am having an issue, how do I install the catalyst drivers?
[22:51] <rabbitnightmare> I need hdmi audio
[22:51] <JO0st> rabbitnightmare, open sound settings and select the hdmi sound output
[22:52] <rabbitnightmare> JO0st: there is no HDMI out option
[22:52] <rabbitnightmare> I require the catalyst drivers
[22:52] <rabbitnightmare> sooo how do I get them
[22:52] <Zolomon> spearhead: Yeah, exactly
[22:53] <possum_> JO0st: oh weird... which distro?
[22:53] <Zolomon> spearhead: Sorry for the delay, important phonecall :/
[22:53] <rabbitnightmare> AMD Radeon HD 7950
[22:53] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: having a problem with step five of the link you provided "5. On / partition select "bootable flag" and set it to "on"
[22:53] <JO0st> ubuntu 13.10
[22:53] <Psil0Cybin> I cannot find that one, setting. I see my partitions created in the table off the first hard drive
[22:53] <Psil0Cybin> but it created 3 partitions instead of two
[22:53] <Psil0Cybin> ext4, swap and EFIboot
[22:53] <rabbitnightmare> please help
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the guide is old so it may not be the exact same. normally a boot flag is unneeded these days
[22:54] <JO0st> possum, ubuntu 13.10
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yeah boot flag is completely unneeded in a uefi install
[22:55] <Psil0Cybin> pefect hitsujiTMO you are the man of the day!
[22:55] <Psil0Cybin> I think i might get the raid set up, following steps
[22:55] <rabbitnightmare> so nobody out there in the land of Linux has an AMD card?
[22:55] <rabbitnightmare> at all
[22:55] <rabbitnightmare> ???
[22:55] <rabbitnightmare> please help
[22:56] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: now i am on the
[22:56] <Psil0Cybin> menu that sates this is a software raid or MD multiple device config
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> the EFIboot is an EFI system partition that replaces MBR.
[22:56] <Psil0Cybin> please select one of the actions to configure software Raid
[22:56] <Psil0Cybin> Create MD device , or Delete MD device
[22:56] <Psil0Cybin> could not find that part in the guide
[22:56] <Psil0Cybin> i guess just create MD?
[22:56] <possum_> JO0st: ah, im on 12.04 maybe they realized and fixed it
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: look at Configuring the RAID in the guide
[22:57] <JO0st> possum_: you can try to fix it command line. sudo ifconfig interface ipaddress netmask
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Configuring_the_RAID
[22:58] <Psil0Cybin> im looking there the part i am on is not there
[22:58] <Psil0Cybin> i think the guide is outdated
[22:58] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-linux-beta-driver.aspx
[22:58] <Psil0Cybin> its asking me about mutlple devices?
[22:58] <Psil0Cybin> Oh
[22:58] <possum_> JO0st: thats not permanent
[22:58] <Psil0Cybin> shit
[22:58] <Psil0Cybin> i am a moron!
[22:58] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <rabbitnightmare> jhutchins: thanks ill try that
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: create the md
[22:58] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: We don't appear to have a catalyst factoid.  Not sure how rare it is.  I would do some google searching about catalyst on ubuntu.
[22:59] <rabbitnightmare> jhutchins: I did and nothing but "its not working"
[22:59] <IdleOne> Psil0Cybin: Do you think the floodbot warnings you have received are just for fun? Stop hitting enter every 5 words.
[22:59] <jhutchins> !fglrx
[22:59] <startouf> Hi all! I'm new on this IRC chat and to Ubuntu 13.10, I have a problem with the messaging menu : According to this page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu#API ... to see an application in my messaging menu, it should be "registered" but I don't have none of the folders inthere... What should I do to see my apps in messaging menu ? Thanks!
[22:59] <IdleOne> also keep the language clean please
[22:59] <rabbitnightmare> trying the beta
[22:59] <rabbitnightmare> thanks for the link
[23:00] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: shoot, it says to select which partitions to use in the create a RAID5 Array menu, but the configsing thing is
[23:00] <Psil0Cybin> it displays everytihng twice
[23:00] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2/ etc
[23:00] <Psil0Cybin> three times each
[23:00] <Psil0Cybin> i select each of the<
[23:01] <Psil0Cybin> so i selected /dev/sda1 (all three times)
[23:01] <antrax> hi
[23:01] <Psil0Cybin> and same as all of them? except the free spaces, does that make sense? sorry hitsujiTMO
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: are they all sda1 or are they sda1 sdb1 and sdc1?
[23:02] <JO0st> possum_: try filling out 0.0.0.0 as the default gateway
[23:02] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it litterely lists them like this in order is it okay if I paste bin it?
[23:02] <Psil0Cybin> just because I have to type it out :) and do not want to make a mistake
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: pastebin away
[23:02] <Psil0Cybin> ty one second
[23:02] <Psil0Cybin> ty for helping me btw you are a L I F E saver.
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> np
[23:02] <possum_> ok JO0st
[23:04] <startouf> Hi all! I'm new on this IRC chat and to Ubuntu 13.10, I have a problem with the messaging menu : According to this page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu#API ... to see an application in my messaging menu, it should be "registered" but I don't have none of the folders inthere... What should I do to see my apps in messaging menu ? Thanks!
[23:04] <AndrewK> I'm having an issue where my system will randomly freeze - things are still displayed, but input is halted, nothing is updated on screen
[23:04] <AndrewK> trying to figure out why (tailed dmesg, syslog) with no culprit yet
[23:05] <possum_> JO0st: what does 0.0.0.0 denote?
[23:05] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6711804/
[23:05] <Rabbitnightmare> to whoever linked me to the beta driver, thank you very much
[23:05] <Rabbitnightmare> I apprecate it
[23:05] <Psil0Cybin> line 14 should be c
[23:05] <Psil0Cybin> type o
[23:05] <Rabbitnightmare> appreciate*
[23:06] <AndrewK> starting to think it might be nvidia driver related?
[23:06] <Psil0Cybin> i selected hitsujiTMO all the 3
[23:06] <Psil0Cybin> in each section that does not say free
[23:06] <Psil0Cybin> is that acurate?
[23:06] <JO0st> possum_:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.0.0.0, use case 4
[23:06] <Psil0Cybin> so i ticked off all 6. /dev/sba1 example
[23:06] <x62656E> hey. using ubntu 12.04 and having an issue. login with guest session works fine. but with my standard user i just get a black screen for a second and then back at login. doesn't say that pw is wrong.
[23:07] <x62656E> some issues w/ nvidia or xorg? any way to reset their settings?
[23:07] <Psil0Cybin> right hitsujiTMO ?
[23:07] <possum_> trhanks JO0st
[23:08] <JO0st> possum_: no problem
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: when i go to continue
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> after selecting all 6
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> it just keeps me on the menu
[23:09] <Beldar> startouf, You might look through here while you wait. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=messaging+menu
[23:09] <possum_> JO0st: i like that workaround
[23:09] <possum_> thanks
[23:09] <startouf> thanks Beldar
[23:10] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know what to do at this raid5 Menu
[23:10] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6711804/
[23:10] <Psil0Cybin> I am installing a server, followed all steps but stuck here
[23:10] <Beldar> startouf, no problem, not familiar with that is all.
[23:10] <Psil0Cybin> it will not let me continue
[23:10] <Psil0Cybin> do i jut connect sda2
[23:10] <Psil0Cybin> and sdc2
[23:10] <Psil0Cybin> and sda2?
[23:10] <startouf> Beldar : well I've checked there.. nothing refers to Ubuntu 13.10, anyway it seems it's a known bug
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok you want to mirror each of the 3 partitions, so the first md device should be /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc1        next should be /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 and /dev/sdc2  etc
[23:11] <Psil0Cybin> AHHH!
[23:11] <Psil0Cybin> omg thank you!!
[23:11] <Psil0Cybin> seems straight forward...sheesh
[23:12] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[23:12] <Psil0Cybin> so i selected, sda1 sdb1 and sdbc1
[23:13] <Psil0Cybin> and it gave me the raid can be configured no adition changes are made
[23:13] <Psil0Cybin> so this will be shown everytime i add each three?
[23:13] <Psil0Cybin> yup thanks
[23:14] <Psil0Cybin> figuring it out :) phew.
[23:14] <Psil0Cybin> after i am done the three md's I go to finish
[23:15] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: when I go to finish partition and write changes to disk
[23:15] <Psil0Cybin> it says I am missing a root drive....
[23:15] <Psil0Cybin> says no root file system.
[23:15] <Psil0Cybin> did i make a mistake??
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you need to assign what each md is. so need to assign which md is efi sys part, which is root and which is swap
[23:16] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: sorry do i go back to Guided partitioning?
[23:16] <Psil0Cybin> After I am at the menu where it lets me finish?
[23:16] <Psil0Cybin> it shows me guided partition configure software raid configure logical voume manager
[23:16] <Psil0Cybin> then shows me the partitions then says undo or finish
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: when yuo created the partitions it should have given you the option to assign them too
[23:17] <Psil0Cybin> I think it just automatically created 3 partitions in each.
[23:18] <Psil0Cybin> I think it auto assigned them?
[23:18] <alumno> Hola e.e
[23:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: What would i do tat this point? If I am assuimg they where auto assigned?
[23:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: or am i supposed to select a partition?
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hmm. yes it should have been auto assigned.
[23:20] <Psil0Cybin> It shows me all 3 hard drive, 3 partitions each
[23:20] <Psil0Cybin> it says raid by each of the partitions
[23:20] <Psil0Cybin> but it still shows them 3 in each hard drive
[23:20] <localg0d> msg hey guys
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you should be able go back and assign.
[23:20] <localg0d> how do i reset the password for root if i am using a live disc ?
[23:20] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: how far do I go back?
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: just hit go back and you should have a list of the drives and you should be able to edit them then
[23:21] <Psil0Cybin> i hit go back
[23:21] <Psil0Cybin> and it took me back to the install main manu
[23:22] <Psil0Cybin> i am on partition disks
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> o.O . unless you were already at the list. ok.
[23:22] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[23:22] <Psil0Cybin> i was at the list
[23:22] <Psil0Cybin> i was just confused which one to select.
[23:22] <spearhead> localg0d, i don't know how to do it from a live-cd but I could tell you how to change the root password if you are logged in as a user who is on the sudoers list
[23:22] <Psil0Cybin> I do not know what to select hitsujiTMO I just went to finish
[23:22] <Psil0Cybin> and it said no root file system
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok. if theres md devices select, if not select the sdXYs and assign them
[23:23] <ksian> how to mount a samba share with rw access???
[23:23] <localg0d> cool... hit me with it spearhead ... please
[23:23] <ksian> how to mount a NTFS samba share with rw access???
[23:23] <Psil0Cybin> how do i know where the md devices are? I am stuck on the partition list where I can see undo changes to parttions and finish
[23:23] <Psil0Cybin> I cannot see md devices to select, just the 3 hard drives that are raided I see
[23:24] <Psil0Cybin> I just see
[23:24] <Psil0Cybin> Raid 5 Device 0
[23:24] <Psil0Cybin> raid 5 Device 1
[23:24] <Psil0Cybin> Raid 5 Device 2
[23:24] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <Psil0Cybin> and the hard drives bellow and the partitions..
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ahh ok. so thats the mds.
[23:24] <Psil0Cybin> ahhh
[23:25] <Beldar> localg0d, What is the context here, and your end goal besides what your have mentioned?
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what size are each one?
[23:25] <Psil0Cybin> so I click enter on Raid Device #0?
[23:25] <Beldar> you*
[23:25] <Psil0Cybin> dcevice #0 is 196.1 MB Software Raid
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: thats your /boot/efi
[23:25] <Psil0Cybin> device #2 is a 2.0 TB Software RAID Device
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> thats your /
[23:25] <Psil0Cybin> and device 3 = 17 .1 GB software raid device
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> thats your swap
[23:25] <localg0d> Beldar, I am trying to set the root password on my liveboot usb ..
[23:25] <Psil0Cybin> so 17.1 GB
[23:25] <Psil0Cybin> is the OS?
[23:25] <spearhead> localg0d, sudo passwd root will ask you for your password and then allow you to change the root password sudo passwd -l root will remove the root password essentially disabling the root account
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: no thats your swap file. youve ~16gb ram on the server is it?
[23:26] <ikonia> localg0d: you don't set the root password in ubuntu - it's a locked account
[23:26] <Beldar> localg0d, That does not really make sense, just curious why?
[23:26] <localg0d> (sudo passwd root) and then it will ask me for my new password ?
[23:26] <localg0d> ikonia, wrong.. i've done it before but it's been more than a year since i've done this work
[23:26] <ikonia> localg0d: no, it's not wrong - your approach is wrong
[23:26] <localg0d> Beldar, so that I can setup a live boot cd for my father ... he keeps crashing my laptop at home..
[23:26] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: I think so
[23:26] <Psil0Cybin> or 8Gb
[23:27] <Psil0Cybin> not sure atm
[23:27] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so which one do I select?
[23:27] <ikonia> localg0d: the ubuntu security model locks the root account, so it shouldn't have a root password, so there is no need to set it
[23:27] <Psil0Cybin> 2.0 TB?
[23:27] <spearhead> localg0d, yes but as ikonia said you should disable it, you can do anything you need to from sudo
[23:27] <anew> ok so now my problem is - i'm running  aperl script which connects to the vpn, then is supposed to kill the vpn connection when it ends.  problem is, it connects... then doesnt execute the kill command ...
[23:27] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: the 2.0 TB raid device #1?
[23:27] <localg0d> Beldar, so if I create a live boot cd or usb ... his login can be restored if he screws up the computer.. i'm creating a static copy of live boot linux for him using penguin pendrive setup tool
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: select raid 1 and make sure its assigned as efi system partition and mounted as /boot/efi
[23:27] <spearhead> localg0d, using the root account is a good way to brick your system
[23:28] <Psil0Cybin> i select raid # 1
[23:28] <Psil0Cybin> and it says
[23:28] <Psil0Cybin> You are edition partition #1 of raid5 device 0
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sorry, should have said dev 0
[23:28] <Psil0Cybin> No existing file system was detected in this partition
[23:28] <Psil0Cybin> partition settings.
[23:28] <localg0d> My end goal Beldar and other users. Is so that I may create a live-boot system for my father.. so he can save his firefox settings etc.. he doesn't download or install anything.. he's a normal facebook user etc...
[23:28] <Psil0Cybin> copy data, erase data, done setting up parttiiotn
[23:28] <spearhead> !enter | Psil0Cybin
[23:28] <ikonia> localg0d: so you don't need a root password for that
[23:28] <Beldar> localg0d, If he used the guest account or a limited account of his own there is not much he could do, does he have your password?
[23:29] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[23:29] <localg0d> Once I use the root account with the password being reset I will create a second user on the live drive to enable him to login seperately from the actual root account.. then re-lock the root
[23:29] <Psil0Cybin> i did not install the file system yet
[23:29] <Psil0Cybin> all i did was parttion it?
[23:29] <Psil0Cybin> i am confused...
[23:29] <spearhead> localg0d, you can just create another account with admin access and do everything from sudo and never even touch root
[23:29] <localg0d> no he doesn't have my password and he was using an older version of ubuntu before the newer one that is more friendly came out so yes he used my old account and crashed the system
[23:29] <Psil0Cybin> it gives me partition settings? It does not let me label or rename or something
[23:29] <localg0d> ok spearhead ... how do i create a new account from inside the live boot usb drive ?
[23:29] <ikonia> localg0d: the ubuntu root password has been locked since version 1
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: does it let you set the partition type?
[23:30] <ksian> how to mount a NTFS samba share with rw access???
[23:30] <localg0d> ikonia, i know.. but i changed the password to prevent rootrz etc...
[23:30] <spearhead> localg0d, does it have persistance?
[23:30] <ikonia> localg0d: then you have no idea what you are doing - you've just created a securtiy hole
[23:30] <ikonia> localg0d: so you are the problem - not your father/ubuntu
[23:31] <Psil0Cybin> when i click on the 196.1 mb parttiion hitsujiTMO it just gives me Use As: do not use / Copy data from another parttion/ earase data from this partition/ done settings up the partition
[23:31] <localg0d> yes it has persistence.. spearhead , that is the word i was looking for not the word static..
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: use as: efi system partition
[23:31] <Psil0Cybin> it says that under you are editing partition # 1 of raid5 device #0 no existing file system was detected in this partiton
[23:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[23:31] <localg0d> ikonia, please don't act condescendant to me... lol
[23:31] <Psil0Cybin> does not let me select anything
[23:32] <Psil0Cybin> jut says use as do not use
[23:32] <Psil0Cybin> Oh
[23:32] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <ikonia> localg0d: I'm not, I'm telling you the truth as you are making more problems than you fix
[23:32] <Psil0Cybin> okay!
[23:32] <ikonia> localg0d: and blaming your father/ubuntu for these problem will not help you stop creating the problems you are trying to fix
[23:32] <spearhead> localg0d, then just create a user in the system settings > users
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: so it gives you no options when you hit enter on use as?
[23:32] <Psil0Cybin> so raid5 device #0 / # 1 is no 196.1 MB EFIboot
[23:32] <Psil0Cybin> okay!!
[23:32] <Psil0Cybin> :D good!
[23:32] <Psil0Cybin> now dedvice # 1 = # 1 2.0 TB is...
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: and it should be mounted as /boot/efi
[23:32] <Psil0Cybin> it just says
[23:33] <Psil0Cybin> 196.1 MB B f EFIboot
[23:33] <spearhead> localg0d, or if you want commandline sudo adduser
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: Psil0Cybin go into dev #1 and use as ext4 and set that to mount as /
[23:33] <spearhead> localg0d, sudo adduser new_username
[23:33] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[23:33] <Psil0Cybin> so thats for the 2.0 TB drive hitsujiTMO
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: then go back to #0 nd see if you can set it to be mounted as /boot/efi
[23:33] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yes
[23:34] <localg0d> spearhead, thank you ...
[23:34] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[23:34] <Psil0Cybin> just says EFIboot
[23:34] <localg0d> spearhead, can the permissions for this account be changed after ?
[23:34] <Psil0Cybin> regardless of going back
[23:34] <ksian> how to aumount a NTFS samba share with rw access???
[23:35] <Psil0Cybin> could that still be good news or? hitsujiTMO
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok. hopefully it will auto set the mount point then.
[23:35] <Psil0Cybin> eeep okay we will see
[23:35] <Psil0Cybin> so
[23:35] <localg0d> errr spearhead , let me rephrase... May I add a user as an administrator right away ? or is it just going to be a normal user...
[23:35] <Psil0Cybin> dev # 2 and #1 17.1 GB
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: now sdev #2 : use as: swap
[23:35] <Psil0Cybin> is the swap?
[23:35] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[23:35] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <spearhead> localg0d, a new user is admin by default unless specified as limited
[23:36] <spearhead> localg0d, a "normal" user in linux is an admin
[23:37] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[23:37] <Psil0Cybin> so far so good
[23:37] <Psil0Cybin> thank you so much, i will keep you posted ::D I owe you a medel.
[23:37] <localg0d> spearhead, duh.. i forgot (smacks forehead)
[23:38] <localg0d> spearhead, so once I log out of the account after creating the user on the persistent user it will let me log in on the persistent user always ?
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> localg0d: an "admin" will have the groups adm and sudo
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> localg0d: and lpadmin
[23:39] <Dresk|Laptop> So how the heck would I go about finding out why it takes so long for a USB webcam, following the USB webcam standards, to initialize under Linux?  It takes like 90 seconds after boot in Ubuntu (udev), and what's strange is the dmesg log (http://pastebin.com/FhUs99dt) shows that it finds the webcam right away, but 50 seconds later it finds a microphone on it (which it doesn't have)
[23:39] <spearhead> localg0d, i would suggest creating a user in the system settings > users because it is easy and you can adjust what privileges the user has
[23:40] <localg0d> i don't see a system settings..
[23:40] <localg0d> i'm currently in the ultimate edition booted into the live setup..
[23:40] <ikonia> ultimate edition is not a supported distro
[23:40] <ikonia> as it is not an ubuntu product
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> ultimare edition?
[23:40] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: poor respin
[23:41] <spearhead> localg0d, what ubuntu is this? 13.10?
[23:41] <ikonia> ultimate edition as he's just stated
[23:41] <ikonia> so it's not ubuntu
[23:41] <localg0d> not sure but the questions i need support for are general tech questions
[23:41] <ikonia> localg0d: it's not supported here
[23:41] <localg0d> and it's an ubuntu derived system
[23:41] <ikonia> localg0d: there are differences in the spin
[23:41] <ikonia> localg0d: it has support resources listed on it's website if that helps
[23:42] <localg0d> i can't access those.. somethings' wrong with my web.. this is the ONLY thing working right now... including what servers are accessible..
[23:43] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: made a mistake when it asked if i wanted to install open-ssh and mailserver, i clicked next by accident..obviously i can reinstall these aplpications jut like any other linux system correct?
[23:43] <ikonia> localg0d: then I suggest you fix the problems and access those support resources
[23:43] <ikonia> localg0d: we don't support it here
[23:43] <localg0d> hmm... ikonia , i don't want to sit here and argue with you .. don't have the time...
[23:43] <ikonia> localg0d: no problem, good luck
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ofc
[23:44] <localg0d> spearhead, thank you for your help... the general commands were successful .. thanks much man
[23:44] <spearhead> localg0d: you can /msg me if you want and i can see if I can help more
[23:46] <dougiel> spearhead, e3 enlightenment?
[23:46] <crBenLubar> I installed vim-syntax-go, but it doesn't seem to work. What should I check?
[23:46] <spearhead> dougl: what?
[23:47] <waterlubber> Hi!
[23:47] <spearhead> dougiel: what?
[23:47] <waterlubber> I just wanted to ask a question
[23:47] <spearhead> !ask | waterlubber
[23:47] <dougl> spearhead, you said you used enlightenment?/
[23:47] <spearhead> dougl: no I am using i3-wm
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i installed it, and it said to remove my media and to restart the computer and i did
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: but does it boot?
[23:48] <waterlubber> !ask Whenever I boot ubuntu, I see the screen faintly, the backlight seems to be off. I am a relitive n00b with Ubuntu, and I am running an Emachines E527 with a Celeron processor
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> but is still asking to put in a usb
[23:48] <waterlubber> Wot?
[23:48] <dougl> spearhead, I did not know what that was but I was on the mac and cannot type on that thing... I will google it - thanks
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> no it says
[23:48] <waterlubber> Wuts Ubotta? i did !ask and ubotto showed up
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> inserrt boot media :S
[23:48] <crBenLubar> for example, I type $ vim example.go, and :set ft? shows me that ft is empty, but if I do $ vim example.py, it shows ft=python.
[23:48] <dougl> spearhead, lots of eyecandy?
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> but it said it was done the install ,and to remove the USB
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin:do you have a live cd?
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: yea i have the USB I used to install the server
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> thats it
[23:49] <spearhead> dougl: it is a very simple window manager where pretty much everything can be controlled from the keyboard
[23:49] <Daemoen> anyone know where the state of the kickstart support is in ubuntu at this point (or more appropriately, in ubuntu 12 )
[23:49] <waterlubber> I'm not a bot!
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> it shows the RAID on boot
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> and says functional
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> just cannot get into the O.S
[23:49] <dougl> spearhead, thanks
[23:49] <waterlubber> Whats grub?
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: so wait... is grub coming up?
[23:50] <daftykins> waterlubber: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/765438
[23:50] <spearhead> waterlubber: the ! prefix is used to send a command to the ubottu bot, I was asking it to tell you not to ask to ask just ask your question
[23:50] <dondopa> ##linux I am using Linux Ubuntu 13.10. I have dnsmasq set up on my computer server. I have already setup dnsmasq so that it turns my server into a DHCP server and DNS server for resolving addresses for local websites. However I am unable to connect to the internet because the gateway was not configured in dnsmasq.conf. I am asking does anyone know what exactly are the parameters I must edit/config so that I can tell dnsmasq to use the gateway I assign it t
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: I think grub comes up, and it just goes straight into pick an OS.
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> Or maybe grub does not show up actually
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> since it just shows the BIOS
[23:50] <waterlubber> Oh okay! Wow! it found a topic for me that is so awesome!
[23:50] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, hi, there no way to understand how to bit my problem? (
[23:50] <waterlubber> Lol I love ubottu! *hugs it* anyway bai since it helped me
[23:51] <daftykins> what an absolute nutcase.
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: I do not think grub is working actually...
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> it just goes straight into boot from something
[23:51] <badrobot> do any of you have ubuntu installed on an Intel NUC?
[23:51] <dondopa> !help
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> just says Reboot and Select proper boot Device.
[23:51] <jacob_> i upgraded to ubuntu 13.1 and now  my streaming video is really choppy. any ideas on how i can fix this?
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok. can you boot the installer again
[23:51] <Daemoen> dondopa: depends.  are you using dnsmasq as the router, which is the basic assumption
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> yup one second
[23:52] <dondopa> yes
[23:52] <dondopa> as the DHCP server
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: damn actually i dont think that has the tools necessary.
[23:52] <dondopa> But I did not configure it to point to the gateway of my choosing
[23:52] <Daemoen> dondopa: then you shouldnt have any problems with it, it will provide itself as the default gateway
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: oh no :(
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you create a bootable usb of a desktop distro?
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do..
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> yes, i will get one now
[23:52] <Daemoen> dondopa: .... ok,  lets try this again
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> one second hitsujiTMO !
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> thank you for helping me btw
[23:52] <Daemoen> is the dnsmasq server your router?  yes or no?
[23:52] <dondopa> Let us talk in private
[23:53] <Chertan> hi
[23:53] <spearhead> dougl: i3-wm is in the ubuntu universe repositories if you want to try it out, just sudo apt-get install i3    I will warn you though it can be confusing to use
[23:53] <jacob_> i upgraded to ubuntu 13.1 and now  my streaming video is really choppy. any ideas on how i can fix this?
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: that is the only way to solve this? Get another live CD of Ubuntu
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> and we are going to see how to fix this?
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> i am downloading the desktop iso right now...12 minutes
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> but would I have to redo everything hitsujiTMO or it might just be as simple as changing a file?
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> to fix this issue..
[23:54] <spearhead> dougl: if you do install it, wait for it to finish then logout and on the login page it should allow you to switch between window managers
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: i'm afraid i've no idea why thats happening.
[23:55] <Daemoen> anyone by chance familiar with the state of kickstart support in ubuntu12 ?
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: it might be to do with the fact that the efiboot wasn't mounted as /boot/efi so it didnt install the boot info to the efi boot manager
[23:55] <ikonia> Daemoen: it works fine - but it's not really the standard for debian based distros
[23:55] <Daemoen> ikonia: i know, and since when are you an ubuntuer?  havent seen you in #rhel in a while
[23:55] <Chertan> i got a vps running ubuntu 13.10 and i'd want to have a daily backup, possibly on ubuntu one... but i can't use deja-pup cause i don't have any graphical interface there... is there a way to let duplicity make backups on ubuntu one without deja-pup?
[23:56] <ikonia> Daemoen: I don't use it really, I do follow it's developments though
[23:56] <Daemoen> ikonia: unfortunately, preseed is very rough when it comes to partitioning :)
[23:56] <ikonia> Daemoen: I'm in #rhel now
[23:56] <qin> Chertan: rsync
[23:56] <Daemoen> ikonia: ok fine, let me rephrase, havent seen you chat much lately in there :p
[23:56] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so do you think that this is an issue that we can fix? Or am I going to be stuck at some point and might have to start all over?
[23:56] <ikonia> Daemoen: the netsplits caught me out
[23:56] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: is this an issue that can be resolved? Or did I just cause a big problem?
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> 13 minutes until I am done getting the iso.
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: should be fixable with a bit of chrooting
[23:57] <Beldar> !rsync | Chertan
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> ty hitsujiTMO
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> msg you soon second the iso is done downloading
[23:57] <Daemoen> ah
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> and i burn it to usb?
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: just need to see what has actually happened
[23:57] <jacob_> anyone?
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO  :) thank you for being by my side man i really appreciate it
[23:57] <Daemoen> ok, back to working on my ubuntu preseed config :|
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> ill get back to u in a few minutes once i have the live cd ready
[23:58] <ikonia> Daemoen: as long as you don't use anything thats not in ubuntu, eg: the selinux --disable type options it works
[23:58] <ikonia> Daemoen: and anything you pass to pressed config you can/should be able to translate to kickstart
[23:58] <ikonia> Daemoen: but I've found not everything works
[23:58] <Daemoen> ikonia: the part im having lots of fun with is the partitioning
[23:58] <Blackshear> im tryting to use playonlinux to install itunes but it doesnt seem to be working
[23:59] <Daemoen> i am SOOO spoiled on kickstart lvm partitioning from rhel
[23:59] <Chertan> qin Beldar so you mean i should use rsync for backups on ubuntu one?
[23:59] <Blackshear> how can i install itunes?
[23:59] <ikonia> Daemoen: not a raid disk by any chance is it ?
[23:59] <ikonia> Blackshear: you can't
[23:59] <Daemoen> nope
[23:59] <Daemoen> pure lvm
[23:59] <Blackshear> ikonia, why
[23:59] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it might be a little longer 15 minutes till the ISo is done
[23:59] <jacob_> i upgraded to ubuntu 13.1 and now  my streaming video is really choppy. any ideas on how i can fix this?
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: np
[23:59] <Psil0Cybin> and then I am going to burn it and message you right away once I am booted into the live CD.
[23:59] <Beldar> jacob_, Gotta have some patience, a live channel does not mean immediate help, you have to wait till someone answers.
[23:59] <ikonia> Daemoen: I had problems with raid disk partioning in kickstart on ubuntu, when the config worked just fine on rhel and it was to do with the clearpart option failing
[23:59] <jacob_> k ;)
[23:59] <ikonia> Daemoen: maybe something similar for you