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| ali1234 | bug 1263591 | 05:05 |
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| ubottu | bug 1263591 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "Add notification-area to panel-default-layout.layout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263591 | 05:05 |
| === OutOfControl is now known as benonsoftware | ||
| Unit193 | knome: For later, reminding that you didn't push all changes for pt.po. | 08:03 |
| knome | mm, | 08:03 |
| knome | i didn't do all changes yet | 08:03 |
| knome | remind me again then :P | 08:03 |
| === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi | ||
| pmjdebru2jn | ochosi: thanks for the help the other day | 09:33 |
| ochosi | pmjdebru2jn: di niente :) | 09:33 |
| pmjdebru2jn | while I'm at it, I do wonder about another thing | 09:33 |
| ochosi | sure | 09:33 |
| pmjdebru2jn | in some instances we (=darktable) launch firefox, which seems to inherent parts of our theming | 09:34 |
| pmjdebru2jn | which makes it look ugly | 09:34 |
| pmjdebru2jn | any tips where to look? | 09:34 |
| ochosi | does it just inherit parts? | 09:34 |
| pmjdebru2jn | to be honest I haven't invested much time into that yet, but i sortof want to give it a go to get that fixed | 09:34 |
| pmjdebru2jn | IIRC | 09:34 |
| ochosi | hm, ok | 09:34 |
| pmjdebru2jn | I can check tonight | 09:34 |
| * pmjdebru2jn can't right now | 09:35 | |
| ochosi | no problem | 09:35 |
| ochosi | i presume that an app inherits the gtk-theming settings when it's launched from another ap | 09:35 |
| ochosi | p | 09:35 |
| ochosi | i've never done that before, so it might as well be firefox/XUL specific | 09:35 |
| pmjdebru2jn | hmm ok | 09:36 |
| ochosi | the only thing i can think of off the top of my head how to fix that is to load the default gtkrc file when launching firefox | 09:36 |
| pmjdebru2jn | ok | 09:36 |
| ochosi | you can set specific rc files for apps when launching them (i guess you know that) | 09:36 |
| pmjdebru2jn | tonight I'll look into the coe, how we launch firefox | 09:36 |
| ochosi | so this is how i'd try to tackle that | 09:36 |
| pmjdebru2jn | I'll do some digging | 09:36 |
| pmjdebru2jn | thanks | 09:36 |
| ochosi | either load /home/$user/.gtkrc-2.0 (and hope that if that doesn't exist that it'll fall back to the system theme) | 09:36 |
| ochosi | or try to determine the currently-in-use theme somehow and load that | 09:37 |
| ochosi | not sure whether there are builtin calls for the latter in gtk2 | 09:37 |
| ochosi | might turn out to be complicated | 09:37 |
| ochosi | trying to load a non-existant gtkrc-2.0 file could also result in nothing though, as it could fall back to your darktable rc | 09:38 |
| ochosi | so as you can see, lotsa guessing :) | 09:38 |
| ochosi | best to get in touch with me again once you can take a real look at it | 09:38 |
| slickymaster | morning all | 09:40 |
| ochosi | morning | 09:41 |
| slickymaster | hey ochosi | 09:44 |
| ochosi | ali1234: so since there is a xubuntu-specific part of the whole problem, what's your opinion on what we should use for 14.04? | 13:32 |
| ali1234 | i got no idea | 13:32 |
| ochosi | i guess we could throw together a gnome-screensaver version forked from 3.6 that looks like our greeter and has no gnome depends | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | i don't even use a screensaver or lock my computer | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | what was used in 13.10? | 13:33 |
| ochosi | xscreensaver | 13:33 |
| ochosi | (we've used that for ages) | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | we should probably just use that, assuming it works | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | it is LTS after all | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | what screensaver is used in ubuntu-desktop? | 13:34 |
| ochosi | gnome-screensaver | 13:34 |
| ochosi | but it has lotsa gnome-depends that we don't want | 13:34 |
| ochosi | something like gnome-settings-daemon etc | 13:34 |
| ali1234 | well if we're going to do this, they might want to use it too - eg if possible we should support unity-greeter as well | 13:34 |
| ali1234 | if only so that there's more people to support the code | 13:34 |
| ochosi | i agree | 13:35 |
| ochosi | forking gnome-screensaver can be done by going back in history in the light-locker git-repo a bit | 13:35 |
| ali1234 | it's probably something for 14.10 though | 13:35 |
| ochosi | we started by stripping out gnome-depends | 13:35 |
| ochosi | yeah, i guess, unless it works really well :) | 13:36 |
| ali1234 | first step would be investigating/documenting the interface between dm and greeter | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | depending on how that looks will determine how hard it is | 13:37 |
| ochosi | i think it would be ideal to talk to robert_ancell before we start anything | 13:37 |
| ochosi | he can tell us, since he's the author of lightdm (and he's usually quite responsive) | 13:38 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 13:40 |
| ochosi | initially, we started like this | 13:43 |
| ochosi | we basically set up gnome-screensaver to lock the screen | 13:43 |
| ochosi | and then if you'd go to "switch user" that would do the VT switch (also from the lock-screen) | 13:43 |
| ochosi | but if you decide to unlock your session then from the greeter instead of from gnome-screensaver (i.e.VT8 instead of VT7) gnome-screensaver needs to listen to CK signals to unlock automatically, so you don't have to enter your pwd twice | 13:45 |
| ochosi | and after we did all that and it seemed complicated, we thought it's ideal to use the greeter directly as lockscreen | 13:45 |
| ochosi | some of the issues (like powermanagement in a multi-user env in the greeter) remain even with the solution of using a locker on the same VT | 13:46 |
| ochosi | ali1234: one problem of using the greeter for the "first" lockscreen, is that it allows user-switching directly | 13:55 |
| ali1234 | well it has a "lock mode" option right? | 13:55 |
| ochosi | so lightdm would definitely have to modified to support that, or greeters would have to use the lock_hint to suppress user-switching | 13:56 |
| ali1234 | the greeter will certainly need to be modified a bit to support this | 13:56 |
| ali1234 | yeah, lock hint | 13:56 |
| ochosi | so something like an extra button for user-switching would have to be added to open the greeter again on another VT with full capabilities | 13:57 |
| ochosi | (the elegant solution would be to only open the new VT after entering the new credentials in the greeter) | 13:58 |
| ali1234 | sounds like it's getting complicated | 13:59 |
| ochosi | well if you want a really elegant solution, i guess the best way would be to extend lightdm with locking capabilities instead of trying to make gnome-.screensaver play dm | 14:00 |
| ochosi | (basically what gnome3 did, from what i read) | 14:01 |
| ali1234 | hmm | 14:01 |
| ochosi | anyway, if we wanna do it the gnome-screensaver-way, the first stage should be simple | 14:02 |
| ochosi | having a gnome-free locker with UI that responds to unlock signals from the greeter | 14:02 |
| ali1234 | i don't think extending lightdm would necessarily be any easier | 14:03 |
| ali1234 | i mean it would still need a whole bunch of different code to make it work | 14:03 |
| ochosi | yeah, and secure locking isn't trivial at all... | 14:05 |
| ochosi | need to talk to cavalier about this | 14:06 |
| ochosi | xnox: this is one of our most-needed fixes (if you have time to look at it), with these fixes our live session should work again as expected (courtesy of Unit193): https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-default-settings/session-fix/+merge/198177 | 14:08 |
| brainwash | ochosi: do you think that adding hover activation for gtk3 indicators might be a good idea? I'm not sure if I should request this (optional) feature | 15:47 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i'm not really fond of the idea | 15:48 |
| ochosi | there is no hover-activation anywhere else | 15:48 |
| ochosi | so it wouldn't be very intuitive, just annoying i suppose | 15:48 |
| brainwash | right, it would be disabled by default | 15:48 |
| ochosi | yeah, but why would you want it? | 15:48 |
| ochosi | the rest of the panel would still need you to click | 15:49 |
| brainwash | Unity does it and I like it | 15:49 |
| ochosi | so it'd be a very isolated behavior | 15:49 |
| ochosi | gmusicbrowser has hover-activation of it's tray-popover, and luckily introduced a timeout, because it was really annoying | 15:49 |
| brainwash | but you could setup an only gtk3 indi panel | 15:49 |
| brainwash | well, almost | 15:49 |
| brainwash | I'll try to code it myself, sounds like fun | 15:51 |
| brainwash | oh, any idea why shadows for xfce4-panel are not possible right now? any specific limitations? | 15:52 |
| ochosi | shadows? | 15:52 |
| ochosi | you mean below? | 15:52 |
| brainwash | yes, drop shadow | 15:52 |
| brainwash | (like Unity does) | 15:52 |
| brainwash | :D | 15:52 |
| ochosi | they only ever worked briefly, xfwm doesn't draw that kind of shadow | 15:52 |
| ochosi | seems like you wanna use Unity? :) | 15:52 |
| brainwash | I want to make Xfce the better Unity | 15:53 |
| ochosi | same with xfce4-notifyd, that also doesn't have shadows for the same reason (iirc) | 15:53 |
| brainwash | ok | 15:53 |
| knome | "no, i don't want to use unity, just the features that are in it!" | 15:54 |
| brainwash | hover activation and a drop shadow.. this won't turn Xfce into Unity :) | 15:55 |
| brainwash | just some small things to make it more awesome (optional ofc) | 15:56 |
| ali1234 | i want to use unity but without the features | 15:56 |
| ali1234 | no hover activation | 15:56 |
| ali1234 | and definitely no drop shadows unless they are in the theme | 15:56 |
| ali1234 | unity's stupid drop shadow causes so many problems | 15:57 |
| brainwash | talking about unity reminds me that I wanted to re-test XMir | 15:58 |
| brainwash | to see if it improved | 15:59 |
| ochosi | brainwash: please test it with nvidia :} | 15:59 |
| brainwash | only got AMD and intel | 15:59 |
| brainwash | the major issue back then was the software cursor | 16:01 |
| brainwash | too bad that we don't keep an eye on XMir anymore | 16:01 |
| brainwash | a solid LTS release is more important | 16:02 |
| micahg_ | hi all, sorry, was not feeling well most of last week | 16:51 |
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| slickymaster | ochosi: PING | 17:11 |
| * slickymaster damns the Caps Lock on | 17:11 | |
| === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 | ||
| elfy | ochosi: just so you are aware - I've absolutely no idea what that odd suspend reboot issue I was having was - but since then this machine's not been 'off' suspend and lock is all I've done | 17:40 |
| slickymaster | hey elfy | 17:40 |
| elfy | micahg: such is real life - hope you're better now | 17:40 |
| elfy | hi slickymaster - congrats on team :) | 17:41 |
| slickymaster | thanks | 17:41 |
| elfy | I see you've been busy too | 17:41 |
| elfy | had that merge you got k to do on my list for this evening | 17:41 |
| slickymaster | elfy: that's why I was going to poke you | 17:41 |
| slickymaster | I've also updated Trello and the blueprint on that | 17:41 |
| elfy | yep - saw the blueprint - not been to the board yet | 17:42 |
| slickymaster | I'll try to get bug 1256898 done this weel, also | 17:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1256898 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test Needed : xfce4 session handling" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256898 | 17:42 |
| pmjdebru2jn | ochosi: it was so trivial (at the theme inheritance) | 17:43 |
| pmjdebru2jn | I just had another look (I also did a while ago, but gave up) | 17:43 |
| slickymaster | just wanting to finish the xfdesktop docs for ochosi before it | 17:43 |
| pmjdebru2jn | https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/commit/3801fc3acc8ee1d3fc19b7fedd1724acf2b8e416 | 17:43 |
| pmjdebru2jn | sorry for the offtopic bit | 17:44 |
| elfy | slickymaster: ok - I'll be on the week off cycle Thursday so will have much more time - and health is much improved | 17:44 |
| elfy | slickymaster: yep - I saw that too - docs is important :) | 17:44 |
| slickymaster | elfy: that's good to ear, and it's what I call good news | 17:44 |
| elfy | thanks :) | 17:44 |
| elfy | hi pmjdebru2jn | 17:44 |
| pmjdebru2jn | lo | 17:45 |
| elfy | slickymaster: I think the only test we need to replace now we've lost the old post install tests is the bluetooth one | 17:48 |
| * elfy got a couple of merge requests to get seen to | 17:49 | |
| slickymaster | elfy: are you referring to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/packages/1591_Blueman ? | 17:53 |
| elfy | aah yes - that was it - thanks :D | 17:53 |
| slickymaster | elfy: well, if i manage to get my hands on a device with bluetooth, I'll do it | 17:53 |
| elfy | needed to make sure that was a replacement for our old test - then we just need to add the 3 - multi mons/bluetooth/suspend in somewhere useful | 17:53 |
| elfy | oh cool | 17:53 |
| elfy | my thinking is that the old suspend test should now be part of the lightlocker testing | 17:53 |
| elfy | knome slickymaster ^^ | 17:53 |
| slickymaster | my cell phone is kind of pre-historical and doesn't have it | 17:54 |
| elfy | Unit193 lderan ^^ you 2 too - given your in that team ;) | 17:55 |
| elfy | slickymaster: my phone has bluetooth - but none of the PCs/lappies do :) | 17:55 |
| elfy | slickymaster: you at a machine with xubuntu on it? | 17:55 |
| elfy | or at work without? | 17:55 |
| slickymaster | at work with boxes, one saucy and one trusty | 17:56 |
| slickymaster | two ^^ | 17:56 |
| elfy | iuf you get time with the trusty one - can you have a look - panel prefs - display tab | 17:57 |
| elfy | http://imgur.com/2cVgrlj,94e3V4T#1 - can you check the tooltips - mine are fubar | 17:57 |
| slickymaster | do you want a screenshot of mine? | 17:57 |
| elfy | ochosi: doesn't see it , but I'm possibly going to drop a line to the m/l re it - especially if people using the ppa's respond | 17:58 |
| elfy | slickymaster: no need for a screeny if the tooltips are correct | 17:58 |
| elfy | or if not either :) just let me know what you see | 17:58 |
| slickymaster | mine is quite similar to yours, besides the fact that I have the "Don't reserve space on borders" option ticked | 18:00 |
| elfy | so your tooltips for don't reserve is wrong as well? | 18:00 |
| slickymaster | other than that everything seems ok with yours | 18:00 |
| slickymaster | how come wrong?! | 18:01 |
| slickymaster | The way I read it, the label is correct | 18:01 |
| elfy | check my screenshots - there are two images there | 18:02 |
| slickymaster | oh wait | 18:02 |
| slickymaster | I just saw the first one | 18:02 |
| elfy | :) | 18:03 |
| slickymaster | no, mine are correct for each of them | 18:04 |
| slickymaster | na I see what you mean | 18:04 |
| elfy | ok - thanks | 18:04 |
| slickymaster | yours, aren't | 18:04 |
| elfy | yep - the don't reserve is wrong | 18:04 |
| slickymaster | I'm running 4.10.1-1ubuntu2 version though | 18:05 |
| slickymaster | elfy xfce-panel ^^ | 18:05 |
| elfy | 4.11.0~1.master.gitd296ca7-0ubuntu1~ppa0.14.04 | 18:08 |
| slickymaster | elfy: that's probably why mine are correct and yours aren't | 18:11 |
| slickymaster | but I can get that PPA and check how does it works on this box | 18:11 |
| slickymaster | elfy: it's Jackson's PPA, right? | 18:12 |
| elfy | it's ok - I've sent a quick mail to the list - ochosi wasn't too concerned, I just want a quick check | 18:12 |
| slickymaster | ok, if you want me to confirm it later on, just ping me on it | 18:12 |
| elfy | yes it's jackson's - but I'll be more concerned if I see it when the stuff gets into install | 18:12 |
| elfy | slickymaster: k - thanks :) | 18:12 |
| slickymaster | np | 18:12 |
| slickymaster | bbl | 18:12 |
| elfy | cheerio | 18:13 |
| brainwash | elfy: what is fubar about the tooltips? | 18:16 |
| elfy | http://i.imgur.com/2cVgrlj.png | 18:17 |
| elfy | I have the same tootip for hide panel and don't reserve :) | 18:17 |
| brainwash | using the same package and it's fine here | 18:18 |
| elfy | odd - on the bright side it's probably just here and I picked up on it | 18:19 |
| brainwash | elfy: it always looks like I cannot confirm the bugs you encounter and vice versa | 18:31 |
| brainwash | you only test inside a vm, right? shouldn't matter most of the time anyway | 18:32 |
| ali1234 | elfy: same here | 18:34 |
| ali1234 | elfy: could be a translation issue | 18:34 |
| elfy | brainwash: not at all - this machine is a real one - I use it and have been using it since more or less the beginning - though this particular install is only a few weeks old - vanilla plus the 4 ppa's for tabwin/panel etc | 18:35 |
| elfy | ali1234: ok - cheers - thought I was losing the plot :) | 18:36 |
| ali1234 | elfy: using en_GB by any chance? | 18:37 |
| brainwash | en_US here | 18:37 |
| elfy | brainwash: though I do test images with both hardware and vm | 18:37 |
| elfy | ali1234: yep | 18:37 |
| ali1234 | looks like somebody goofed and copy pasted the same translation multiple times | 18:37 |
| elfy | yep - that confirms that then - switched to US and all was fine | 18:42 |
| elfy | bbl | 18:43 |
| ali1234 | yeah it's definitely a problem in the po file... i'm looking at it right now | 18:43 |
| ali1234 | bug was introduced in the most recent commit | 18:45 |
| elfy | that's probably the sort of thing it might be good for me to look at, being voodoo averse - I guess it's quite logical to see where it's wrong | 18:46 |
| ali1234 | https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/xfce4-panel/viewstrings/#en_GB/master/13936244?q=if%20you%20want%20maximized%20windows | 18:51 |
| ali1234 | the two translations are right next to each other in the file too | 18:51 |
| elfy | not got login to that | 18:51 |
| ali1234 | oh :( | 18:51 |
| ali1234 | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/tree/po/en_GB.po#n421 <- here's the source | 18:53 |
| ali1234 | translations are done on transifex and autoimported though | 18:53 |
| elfy | right | 18:53 |
| ali1234 | i have login but no access to work on the translations | 18:53 |
| elfy | I'll have a look a bit later - see if I can see anything other than gobbledygook :) | 18:55 |
| ali1234 | Noskcaj: can you fix this? | 18:55 |
| Noskcaj | ali1234, What's the issue? | 18:56 |
| ali1234 | the en+GB translation is messed... some copy paste error | 18:56 |
| ali1234 | https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/xfce4-panel/viewstrings/#en_GB/master/13936244?q=if%20you%20want%20maximized%20windows | 18:57 |
| ali1234 | the "translation" is a copy paste... but it's a copy paste from the wrong origin | 18:57 |
| Noskcaj | yeah. I have translation rights, just let me remember how to edit | 18:58 |
| ali1234 | also, general advice on what to do with translation bugs would be appreciated | 18:59 |
| Noskcaj | I'm guessing contact someone who will fixit. If you can't, file a bug of the bugzilla | 19:00 |
| ali1234 | if i patch the po by hand, will that mess up transifex? or is it bidirectional? | 19:01 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: I more or less do with XMir, but I've been waiting for the archive to land 0.1.3 before doing anything, and it's really lagging. | 19:01 |
| Noskcaj | ali1234, I think it's bidirectional | 19:04 |
| Noskcaj | Fixed | 19:05 |
| ali1234 | thanks | 19:05 |
| micahg | elfy: getting there | 19:13 |
| elfy | ali1234: well if nothing else - that is all logical enough for me to see where it's wrong :) | 19:23 |
| elfy | micahg: good - I feel your pain | 19:23 |
| elfy | who's this guy who keeps posting on xubuntu bugs and then thinking they're ubuntu ones | 19:28 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1171411 | 19:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1171411 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "xfwm4 may show display distortions, when using compositing on intel with sna" [Low,Incomplete] | 19:28 |
| * pmjdebru2jn has 117411 too | 19:29 | |
| ali1234 | elfy: penalvch? | 19:29 |
| pmjdebru2jn | but only the stipled borders | 19:29 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Someone that's not doing a good job with the scripts, didn't replace the bug number either. :/ | 19:31 |
| === pmjdebru2jn is now known as pmjdebruijn | ||
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