[13:59] <sgo11> hi, I haven't installed ubuntu arm yet. I would like to know what packages and which versions are supported by current ubuntu arm release. can anyone tell me where I can check? what is the repo url? thanks.
[14:04] <ogra_> the same packages that are on x86
[14:04] <ogra_> the archive is at ports.ubuntu.com
[14:10] <sgo11> ogra_, thanks. the latest arm release is 12.04. when you say the same packages to x86, do you mean the same packages(version) as 12.04 x86? or latest 13.10 x86? thanks.
[14:10] <ogra_> the latest arm release is 13.10
[14:11] <ogra_> arm is built in parallel since 9.04, since then you have the identical package versions to x86
[14:12] <sgo11> ogra_, thanks. I come from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM. it shows 12.04 release. what is the official site for ubuntu arm? where to get 13.10? thanks a lot.
[14:12] <ogra_> oh, dont trust the wiki ... it is always outdated :)
[14:13] <sgo11> ogra_, thanks. but where to get the latest arm release? thanks.
[14:13] <ogra_> there is no official site specific for arm anymore ... it is just another architecture
[14:14] <sgo11> ogra_, ok. so how can I install 13.10 to my board? can you show me some guideline/tutorial? thanks.
[14:14] <ogra_> which board is that ?
[14:15] <sgo11> ogra_, cubieboard (cubieboard3 also named cubietruck)
[14:15] <ogra_> installation images are very device specific since kernels and bootloaders vary massively on arm ... there are only images for a few devices/boards
[14:15] <ogra_> ah, well, there is definitely no official cubieboard image, so google is your friend ... i'm sure there are some third party howtos to get ubuntu running on that device though
[14:16] <sgo11> ogra_, yeah. I am a newbie to arm. I am very confused on how to install them.
[14:17] <sgo11> ogra_, the official cubieboard team release ubuntu 12.04. I just want to get latest packages. maybe I should think switching to archlinux-arm even if I never use archlinux before. but archlinux-arm provides official release to cubieboard.
[14:17] <sgo11> installation to arm world becomes very different. installation in archlinux becomes much easier than ubuntu.
[14:17] <ogra_> just use theirt image then, you can always just upgrade to 13.10
[14:18] <ogra_> huh ?
[14:18] <ogra_> i highly doubt that
[14:18] <ogra_> if there is an existing ubuntu image, just install it ... most likely you just need to dump the image onto an sd card and are good to go
[14:19] <ogra_> arch means you will have to know how to build your own stuff from scratch etc ... it will definitely be a lot harder than using a binary distro like ubuntu debian or fedora
[14:19] <sgo11> ogra_, archlinux-arm provides a specific image to my cubieboard. that's why I thought that might be easier. haven't tried it yet. I can use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in ubuntu arm to upgrade to 13.10? thanks.
[14:19] <ogra_> unless you are already good at linux in general and in arch specifically
[14:20] <ogra_> sgo11, http://cubieboard.org/download/
[14:20] <ogra_> just grab the lubuntu image from there and be happy
[14:21] <ogra_> (first hit on google btw)
[14:21] <sgo11> ogra_, sorry about my bad memory. that is 12.10 instead of 12.04. but the team does not provide 13.10. how to uprgrade to 13.10 once I have 12.10? thanks.
[14:22] <ogra_> sudo update-manager-core
[14:22] <ogra_> that will upgrade you to the next ubuntu version
[14:22] <sgo11> ogra_, cool. I will do that and stick with ubuntu. thanks a lot for your help.
[14:22] <ogra_> err, sorry
[14:23] <ogra_> update-manager-core is the package
[14:23] <ogra_> it is sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:23] <sgo11> ogra_, no problem. what is the command? if you can tell me, it will save my time to google. :) thanks.
[14:23] <ogra_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:24] <sgo11> ogra_, oh. it's always that command. never really use it in x86 world. I always did fresh install in x86. but arm is different. thanks a lot.
[14:24] <ogra_> arm is the same :)
[14:24] <ogra_> the only things that usually differ on arm are the bootloader and kernel which are board specific
[14:24] <sgo11> ogra_, that's very cool. thank you very much! ^_^
[14:27] <sgo11> ogra_, since you are here, may I ask another question related to kernel rebuilding? can I use the same new way (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel) to compile the kernel in arm? "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic" thanks.
[14:28] <ogra_> only if your kernel source has a package dir (which it is unlikely to have)
[14:29] <ogra_> the guys in #ubuntu-kernel might be able to give you more hints, but generally if you have a non official board you just build the kernel without packaging and maintain it separately
[14:30] <sgo11> ogra_, i have a driver which requires rebuild the kernel to work. that's why I asked this question in advance.
[14:30] <ogra_> well, best to ask in a cubieboard forum tzhen
[14:31] <sgo11> ogra_, sure. I will do that. thank you very much. ^_^