| diddledan | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-TV2-Untethered-Jailbroken-JUST-the-same-as-the-ones-being-sold-at-289-/111181670476?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Internet_TV_Media_Streamers&hash=item19e2f1a84c | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| diddledan | a new current gen is at most 99£ | 00:00 |
| diddledan | some retailers have it at 79£ | 00:00 |
| diddledan | ok, now we're getting stupid: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW-Apple-TV-2nd-Generation-XBMC-Tethered-/161174152942?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Internet_TV_Media_Streamers&hash=item2586ba66ee | 00:03 |
| directhex | diddledan, i think the old ones are more moddable than the new ones? | 00:04 |
| diddledan | does that really justify the price difference tho? | 00:04 |
| diddledan | 99 new or used for 299 | 00:04 |
| directhex | one is an appletv. one is a box that can run xbmc | 00:04 |
| diddledan | my rpi can run xbmc, and I didn't pay 299 for it | 00:05 |
| daftykins | diddledan: yeah no jailbreak on the new | 00:10 |
| daftykins | rpi is actually pretty rubbish with XBMC | 00:10 |
| daftykins | can't handle high-end skins, local db = slow, hardware performance kinda demands use of a receiver (for bitstreamed audio) to keep up | 00:11 |
| daftykins | at least from what i hear from being in the channels for XBMC :) | 00:11 |
| BigRedS | yeah, it's like whenever else you preted the pi is a PC | 00:45 |
| BigRedS | *pretend | 00:45 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 07:00 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 07:34 |
| MooDoo | just us again MartijnVdS ;) | 07:34 |
| MartijnVdS | "The morning shift" | 07:35 |
| MooDoo | hehe | 07:36 |
| mapps | im here | 07:38 |
| mapps | il be signing off soon though. :) | 07:39 |
| MooDoo | hello then :D | 07:39 |
| mapps | yello! | 07:39 |
| Myrtti | meh | 07:40 |
| ali1234 | who else got that "Need help to get a job" email? | 07:41 |
| MooDoo | Can't say I did | 07:42 |
| MooDoo | then again, I could of but just so used to deleting spam by skimming subjects I could of deleted it | 07:42 |
| ali1234 | looks like he sent it to everyone who's email appears in a git commit in linux | 07:42 |
| ali1234 | at least he used bcc | 07:42 |
| MooDoo | yeah people would of gone nuts if he hadn't | 07:43 |
| ali1234 | it evaded gmail's spam filter... looks like a genuine misguided person | 07:43 |
| MooDoo | Ah he'll learn when people reply with WTF dude! ;) | 07:44 |
| MartijnVdS | nah people don't reply to spam.. do they? | 07:44 |
| ali1234 | well i don't | 07:44 |
| * MartijnVdS fires up his VMs | 07:45 | |
| MooDoo | no i don't but you never know, people give out their password and click links in emails without thining | 07:45 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: sure but *kernel devs* | 07:49 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: oh they are the worst ;) | 07:49 |
| === map is now known as Guest5712 | ||
| maps | hmm gonna read up on BASH scripting today i think..anyone recommend any videos/tutorials besides tldp | 08:02 |
| MooDoo | http://linuxconfig.org/bash-scripting-tutorial | 08:05 |
| MooDoo | or from ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting | 08:05 |
| dwatkins | maps: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/ and http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ are really useful, too | 08:06 |
| MooDoo | besides tldp | 08:06 |
| MooDoo | ;) | 08:06 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:06 |
| MooDoo | morning diplo | 08:06 |
| diplo | How are we all this not so wet morning | 08:08 |
| dwatkins | glad it's not wet :) | 08:09 |
| dwatkins | also, glad it's not cold like it appears to be in the US | 08:09 |
| MooDoo | work collegue is in NYC at the moment, waiting to board the plane home.... | 08:10 |
| diplo | Not cancelled ? | 08:10 |
| === maps is now known as mapps | ||
| MooDoo | diplo: not at the moment. | 08:10 |
| mapps | gah got cutoff | 08:10 |
| mapps | dunno if my message sent - hmm gonna read up on BASH scripting today i think..anyone recommend any videos/tutorials besides tldp | 08:10 |
| MooDoo | mapps: I think just a generic google search will give you loads, they'll all help :D | 08:11 |
| mapps | ya i know there's loads just wondered if any specific ones..but ok:) | 08:12 |
| mapps | you know much bash scripting? | 08:13 |
| MooDoo | enough to get me by but I'd have to read up again lol | 08:13 |
| Myrtti | mapps: I started with O'Reilly pocket books, and followed up on tldp | 08:17 |
| knightwise | morning everyone :) | 08:18 |
| Myrtti | sed, grep and bash are good to read up on | 08:18 |
| dwatkins | mapps: here's what we said: http://hastebin.com/kehafijasu.xml | 08:18 |
| mapps | many thanks :) | 08:19 |
| ali1234 | they should have called this game "joe danger 2: the loading screen" | 08:44 |
| ali1234 | joystick doesn't work in runner2 | 08:47 |
| === Monotoko_ is now known as Monotoko | ||
| ali1234 | anybody know why a joomla site would return 500 instead of 404? | 09:17 |
| MooDoo | ali1234: what's in the logs? script headers error? | 09:18 |
| MartijnVdS | because the PHP config is b0rken | 09:18 |
| ali1234 | nothing | 09:18 |
| foobarry | what's happened to slashdot? keep finding interesting stories on there now | 09:18 |
| ali1234 | as far as i can tell there are no logs | 09:18 |
| ali1234 | even the error goes to access.log instead of error.log | 09:18 |
| ali1234 | i didn't set up this site | 09:18 |
| MooDoo | ali1234: i had this yesterday and it turned out to be a corrupt table joomla_session in the DB | 09:19 |
| ali1234 | hmm, thanks, i'll check that | 09:19 |
| ali1234 | it does only happen for 404 pages though | 09:19 |
| MooDoo | ah | 09:20 |
| MooDoo | maybe not then | 09:20 |
| ali1234 | this is causing company's google mini to think hat moved pages still exist | 09:21 |
| ali1234 | so their search is showing all bad old links | 09:21 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:24 |
| foobarry | anyone read the news about redhat helping centos now? | 09:25 |
| SuperMatt | yeah | 09:25 |
| SuperMatt | quite interesting | 09:25 |
| SuperMatt | I think basically they want to help the centos team releasae centos 7 before oracle get a chance | 09:25 |
| foobarry | also, 80/20 rule. organisations using centos will probably have 20% on RHEL | 09:27 |
| SuperMatt | indeed | 09:27 |
| foobarry | we are discussing linux desktops and some people say that because we use RPM on server, we should use fedora on desktop :( | 09:27 |
| SuperMatt | so it may also be a tactic to try to convince more people to buy support from rhel, rather than go to oracle | 09:27 |
| SuperMatt | foobarry: that's not a terrible thing to say... it is quite logical | 09:28 |
| foobarry | i dont know any self respecting linux admin who would willingly give business to oracle | 09:28 |
| SuperMatt | but I think it should mostly come down to choice | 09:28 |
| foobarry | except fedora sucks, and and they have no LTS | 09:28 |
| foobarry | so you have to upgrade user desktops every 6 month...thats unthnkable | 09:28 |
| SuperMatt | there has got to people some people giving business to oracle, otherwise there wouldn't be an oracle linux, right? | 09:28 |
| bigcalm | What's the link to Oracle? | 09:28 |
| foobarry | so you then have to provide a lts type solution which is centos on desktop | 09:29 |
| SuperMatt | foobarry: a friend of mine is in that situation, so they only do every even numbered release | 09:29 |
| * bigcalm hasn't been paying attention :) | 09:29 | |
| popey | oracle make a centos-like re-build of rhel | 09:29 |
| popey | and steal rhels lunch | 09:29 |
| foobarry | fedora support life is 9month | 09:29 |
| popey | i dont think this is anything to do with that though# | 09:29 |
| bashrc | nice | 09:29 |
| bigcalm | Oh Oracle owns centos? | 09:29 |
| popey | no | 09:29 |
| popey | oracle make a linux distro | 09:30 |
| popey | _like_ centos | 09:30 |
| bigcalm | Doh, sorry | 09:30 |
| popey | i.e. built from rhel | 09:30 |
| popey | it's more to do with rhel having their cloud lunch eaten by ubuntu | 09:30 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 09:30 |
| popey | centos gives them the ability to "sell" a low/no cost distro to the cloud vendors | 09:30 |
| popey | and then upsell them to rhel | 09:30 |
| MooDoo | centos is built on rhel source which is built on fedora source :) | 09:31 |
| popey | no | 09:31 |
| foobarry | if anything is gonna make RHEL types consider ubuntu, its cloud lunch | 09:31 |
| popey | rhel is not built from fedora | 09:31 |
| MooDoo | i retract that as it was wrong | 09:32 |
| SuperMatt | but fedora is still, mostly, a testing ground for future rhel features | 09:32 |
| MooDoo | that's what I actually meant :) | 09:32 |
| popey | indeed | 09:32 |
| bashrc | isn't there supposed to be some relationship between fedora and rhel though? | 09:32 |
| foobarry | and fedora releases have "equivalence" | 09:32 |
| popey | there is a relationship, of course | 09:32 |
| foobarry | i.e. i equate fedora 13 with rhel 6.0 | 09:32 |
| bashrc | have they diverged a lot? | 09:32 |
| JamesTai1 | Good morning all! :-D | 09:33 |
| foobarry | bashrc: well, the bugs from drivers in fedora 13 make it into rhel6 | 09:33 |
| SuperMatt | man, I think my rhcsa stops being valid this year :/ | 09:33 |
| foobarry | SuperMatt: me too :( | 09:33 |
| SuperMatt | /o\ | 09:33 |
| foobarry | with the release of RHEL7 | 09:33 |
| === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait | ||
| foobarry | and i never took my vmware exam | 09:33 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: I was going to take it, but not going to now. | 09:33 |
| SuperMatt | I don't think it's that, I think the certification only lasts a certain period of time | 09:34 |
| foobarry | i still say i'm a RHCE | 09:34 |
| SuperMatt | I seem to remember it saying 2014 on my certificate | 09:34 |
| SuperMatt | I don't think you can when your certificate has run out | 09:34 |
| SuperMatt | though I guess I could say "I was certified rhcsa between 2011 and 2014" | 09:35 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: you'll be taking redcent exam next or centhat or something similar ;) | 09:35 |
| SuperMatt | well maybe | 09:37 |
| SuperMatt | I hope not :/ | 09:37 |
| SuperMatt | I'm pretty certain I'm mostly going to be working on windows stuff | 09:37 |
| foobarry | you can say RHCSA for RHELv6 | 09:37 |
| foobarry | or just say RHCSA cert number blah | 09:37 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: yeah me too, i'm doing my first mcp exam in feb | 09:37 |
| foobarry | anyone bought humble bundle yet? | 09:38 |
| foobarry | are there any good games in there? | 09:38 |
| SuperMatt | not bought it yet | 09:38 |
| foobarry | joe danger looks like it would be good fun on the wii | 09:39 |
| SuperMatt | oooh, I just checked my certificate | 09:42 |
| SuperMatt | it doesn't expire :D | 09:42 |
| bigcalm | Ever? | 09:42 |
| MartijnVdS | Bad CA ;) | 09:42 |
| SuperMatt | oh wait | 09:42 |
| SuperMatt | yes it does | 09:42 |
| SuperMatt | mine expires on the 4th Feb this year :( | 09:42 |
| SuperMatt | https://www.redhat.com/wapps/training/certification/verify.html?certNumber=110-003-845 | 09:42 |
| SuperMatt | that just makes me sad :( | 09:43 |
| SuperMatt | You used to be able to "buy" a training course of shop.canonical.com. Why's that not happening any more? | 09:48 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: that ended years ago didn't it | 09:51 |
| SuperMatt | yeah, I think so | 09:51 |
| SuperMatt | I always thought it was a shame | 09:51 |
| SuperMatt | because I wanted to do it | 09:51 |
| foobarry | probably nobody else did | 09:51 |
| SuperMatt | that's probably true | 09:52 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/166692/is-there-such-a-thing-as-a-ubuntu-certified-engineer | 09:52 |
| SuperMatt | so in other words, there's really no way to get a certificate | 09:54 |
| MooDoo | not on ubuntu specifically, might as well just to the LIPC | 09:56 |
| MooDoo | LPIC | 09:56 |
| SuperMatt | lpic? | 09:56 |
| MooDoo | http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/programs/lpic-1 | 09:57 |
| popey | is that really worth doing? | 09:57 |
| MooDoo | linux professional institute SuperMatt | 09:57 |
| popey | experience > certificates IMO / IME | 09:57 |
| SuperMatt | ah cool | 09:57 |
| SuperMatt | sure, but certificates = cv booster | 09:57 |
| MooDoo | popey: depends if companies need to see a proficiancy in linux, it's nice to have it on paper | 09:57 |
| SuperMatt | especially because most recruitment places/hr departments don't know anything about linux, so they're just told to look out of things like rhcsa and lpic | 09:58 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: the last few companies I've worked for just asked my frieds who already worked there, or trusted me when I said I knew my stuff | 09:58 |
| * awilkins is proud to have zero professional development certificates | 09:58 | |
| popey | I am not convinced they do look for that. | 09:58 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: yeah most people aren't that bothered | 09:58 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: if you're lying, they'll discover that soon enough | 09:58 |
| awilkins | I narrowly avoided getting some MCSEs and totally ruining my rep | 09:58 |
| SuperMatt | hahahaha | 09:59 |
| popey | i used to be a sap certified person | 09:59 |
| foobarry | rhce/rhcsa is an advantage for cndaditates when i'm hiring | 09:59 |
| MooDoo | awilkins: now you're just being silly :D | 09:59 |
| popey | many moons ago | 09:59 |
| MooDoo | lol | 09:59 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: your 'geek cred' | 09:59 |
| awilkins | My old employer wanted me to get some so they could get cheapie MS software | 09:59 |
| MooDoo | I'm working on server 2012 exams now | 09:59 |
| awilkins | You had to employ at least one MCSE to qualify for it | 09:59 |
| * AlanBell will have to be OpenERP certified soon | 10:00 | |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: I don't think you'd have a problem with that would you, seeing as you use it everyday? | 10:00 |
| zleap | is there a freenode admin anywhere someone seems to be spamming #lubuntu | 10:01 |
| AlanBell | dunno, it is a huge product MooDoo and a new exam | 10:01 |
| AlanBell | zleap: I can sort that | 10:01 |
| zleap | hes gone but he was just putting how to move mouse pointer with keyboard endlessly | 10:02 |
| zleap | AlanBell, if he comes back in i will let you know | 10:02 |
| AlanBell | sounds more like someone with a problem than spam exactly :) | 10:02 |
| ali1234 | where does virtualmin store vhost configurations? | 10:03 |
| ali1234 | this webserver is a mess | 10:03 |
| SuperMatt | I *love* it when I do a complicated sed find and replace, and it works first time :D | 10:03 |
| foobarry | zleap: there's a command to type to find out the channel oips | 10:04 |
| zleap | ok | 10:04 |
| MooDoo | ali1234: no /var/www/vhosts is it? | 10:04 |
| foobarry | i don't remember it though | 10:04 |
| zleap | ok | 10:06 |
| ali1234 | MooDoo: no | 10:06 |
| ali1234 | that is where it stores the httpdocs for the default vhost, by default | 10:07 |
| ali1234 | but this server is not using default settings | 10:07 |
| MooDoo | ali1234: no not into the actual /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf then? | 10:07 |
| MooDoo | ali1234: clutching at straws :D | 10:07 |
| ali1234 | hahaha | 10:08 |
| ali1234 | yes it is just appending them to that file :/ | 10:08 |
| ali1234 | that's super bad | 10:08 |
| ali1234 | hmm okay so there's nothing wrong with the php config or the vhost config. if php emitted any errors or warnings they would be logged. but it isn't. | 10:10 |
| ali1234 | it just cheerfully returns 500 for no reason | 10:10 |
| MooDoo | yay :D | 10:10 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: did you send that form to canonical? | 10:17 |
| SuperMatt | not yet, I've been busy | 10:17 |
| bigcalm | SuperMatt: to follow up my Rackspace question from yesterday - what section have they put you in? | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | Wondering if you'll be answering my support tickets ;) | 10:19 |
| SuperMatt | I'm just listed at the moment as Linux Administrator Level 1 | 10:20 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: he may be, and fanatically :D | 10:20 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 10:21 |
| bigcalm | I'd be worried about somebody who really is fanatical about everything they do | 10:22 |
| foobarry | fanatical about commuting | 10:22 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: I just hope SuperMatt gets to use the slide between floors a lot :D | 10:23 |
| SuperMatt | I don't remember seeing a slide there | 10:24 |
| SuperMatt | Just checking some of the details, I get to hang a flag above my desk | 10:24 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: ah must be the americans then | 10:24 |
| SuperMatt | I'm thinking of picking a Gotham City flag | 10:24 |
| foobarry | i don't think i'm forbidden from hanging a flag above my desk | 10:25 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: don't you also have to be doing or have done RHCE to work there? | 10:25 |
| SuperMatt | uhm... they hired me without one | 10:25 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: ignore that | 10:25 |
| ali1234 | someone somewhere typoed a link to this site, but the typo doesn't just 404 - it crashes the blob software | 10:26 |
| SuperMatt | oof | 10:27 |
| bigcalm | Where are nautilus shares kept? Not in /media that's for sure | 10:28 |
| foobarry | .gvfs ? | 10:28 |
| bigcalm | That doesn't exist | 10:28 |
| MartijnVdS | ~/.gvfs ? | 10:29 |
| MartijnVdS | it should, on a desktop | 10:29 |
| bigcalm | That doesn't exist | 10:29 |
| foobarry | what do you actually mean by the question? | 10:29 |
| foobarry | :P | 10:29 |
| MooDoo | /run/user/<username>/gvfs | 10:29 |
| bigcalm | You can mount a network share without setting it up in /etc/fstab | 10:30 |
| bigcalm | I would like to access that location from the CLI | 10:30 |
| foobarry | type mount to see whats mounted? | 10:30 |
| bigcalm | foobarry: I see it, ta | 10:31 |
| bigcalm | MooDoo: that was close, it's the user id not the username, which confused me | 10:31 |
| bigcalm | Thanks all :) | 10:31 |
| MooDoo | :) | 10:31 |
| foobarry | where was in mounted btw | 10:32 |
| foobarry | *it | 10:32 |
| bigcalm | Means I can now run: /run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share\:server\=proliant\,share\=torrents/PapoYo_linux_1389070953.sh | 10:32 |
| popey | gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=alan) | 10:32 |
| foobarry | is that a new thing in later version? | 10:32 |
| popey | alan@deep-thought:/run/user/1000/gvfs$ ls | 10:33 |
| popey | mtp:host=%5Busb%3A001%2C021%5D | 10:33 |
| popey | smb-share:server=192.168.1.2,share=media,user=alan | 10:33 |
| popey | eww | 10:33 |
| bigcalm | :D | 10:33 |
| popey | "That's better" | 10:33 |
| popey | Said no-one, ever. | 10:33 |
| foobarry | is there a bug in launchpad for the broken drm in 4od etc? | 10:34 |
| popey | what broken drm? | 10:35 |
| foobarry | 4od used to work on ubuntu, now it doesn't | 10:35 |
| AlanBell | foobarry: I saw that, it looks more like a flash bug | 10:36 |
| popey | you used to have to install hal | 10:37 |
| popey | wonder if google play is broken too | 10:37 |
| foobarry | i have 12.04 with hal | 10:37 |
| foobarry | no worky | 10:37 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: google play music works fine for me | 10:37 |
| popey | yup, broken too | 10:37 |
| popey | no, movies | 10:37 |
| MartijnVdS | ah they don't do those here | 10:37 |
| * popey tries on 12.04 | 10:38 | |
| foobarry | forever spinny thing | 10:38 |
| MartijnVdS | yay drm :( | 10:39 |
| foobarry | hal 0.5.14-8 | 10:39 |
| AlanBell | and link that takes you to http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/faq/name/digital-rights-3322/id/502974174 which takes you to http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager08.html which doesn't help | 10:39 |
| foobarry | kinda sucks if it doesn't work anymore | 10:41 |
| MartijnVdS | welcome to the wonderful world of DRM | 10:41 |
| foobarry | does this help? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/10/fixing-amazon-prime-streaming-drm-protected-flash-13-10 | 10:42 |
| foobarry | or same probs | 10:42 |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/a/333805/612 | 10:42 |
| popey | try that | 10:42 |
| foobarry | on 12.04 too? | 10:43 |
| MartijnVdS | I'm still wondering why they would use *hal* for DRM stuff | 10:43 |
| popey | ah, hal missing | 10:43 |
| popey | bug 1048446 | 10:44 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1048446 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) "Flash requires hal for video DRM" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048446 | 10:44 |
| foobarry | WOW | 10:44 |
| foobarry | it works \. | 10:44 |
| foobarry | \i/ | 10:44 |
| foobarry | well the ad does... | 10:44 |
| foobarry | i tell you for sure in 1 min | 10:44 |
| foobarry | yes. it works on1204. thanks. this needs to be publicised a bit more widely | 10:46 |
| foobarry | possibly removing .adobe was the cirtical bit | 10:46 |
| popey | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=786656#c3 is interesting | 10:47 |
| lubotu3 | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 786656 in hal "HAL needed for Adobe Flash Protected Content" [Unspecified,Closed: wontfix] | 10:47 |
| popey | (what they use hal for) | 10:47 |
| foobarry | Not being Adobe, I am not going to speculate on why the plugin is | 10:47 |
| foobarry | collecting this data (system serial numbers, drive serial numbers, drive | 10:47 |
| foobarry | sizes, potentially processor identification strings), or what it's doing | 10:47 |
| foobarry | with this data once it is collected. But that is what it's using HAL for | 10:48 |
| foobarry | :-| | 10:48 |
| MartijnVdS | Big OD4 is Watching You? | 10:48 |
| Laney | seems like the kind of thing you might want for DRM | 10:48 |
| MartijnVdS | Laney: .. if you want DRM like that in the first place. | 10:48 |
| popey | where "you" is "they" | 10:49 |
| foobarry | especially if channel4 put their stuff on youtube anyway :SD | 10:49 |
| popey | they dont put it all on youtube | 10:49 |
| foobarry | don't put it all on 4od either :( | 10:49 |
| bigcalm | Papo & Yo works nicely on my workstation. Should try it on my SteamOS machine someday | 10:52 |
| popey | blimey, not even adverts on 4od play smoothly | 10:52 |
| popey | surprising, usually the adverts are perfect, programmes stream badly | 10:53 |
| popey | yeah, programme works on 12.04 here too | 10:53 |
| popey | "This programme contains product placement" | 10:53 |
| foobarry | which one? | 10:55 |
| dwatkins | popey: what kind of player does 4od use? | 10:55 |
| popey | flash | 10:55 |
| foobarry | i ~which progr? | 10:55 |
| popey | 2 mins into the programme and the content hasn't started | 10:56 |
| popey | all intro so far | 10:56 |
| dwatkins | what flash version do you have, popey? | 10:56 |
| popey | taste | 10:56 |
| foobarry | i try not to watch product placement programmes | 10:56 |
| popey | whatever 12.04 comes with | 10:56 |
| popey | hah | 10:56 |
| foobarry | except i did watch james bond film | 10:56 |
| dwatkins | so the latest one downloaded by the flash-player-installer package or whatever it's called? | 10:56 |
| dwatkins | popey: I assume you're using Firefox | 10:57 |
| popey | chromium | 10:57 |
| dwatkins | ah yes, chromium is in the repos | 10:57 |
| davmor2 | adamantium | 10:58 |
| davmor2 | sorry were we not not shouting out random metals | 10:58 |
| popey | 11.2 r 202 | 10:58 |
| foobarry | knocked a full cup of water over my desk | 10:58 |
| foobarry | fortunately the keyboard got in the way of the laptop | 10:58 |
| foobarry | and all my gonks | 10:58 |
| dwatkins | unobtanium | 10:58 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/washable-keyboard-k310 | 10:58 |
| davmor2 | foobarry: D'oh | 10:59 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:59 |
| MartijnVdS | \o davmor2 | 10:59 |
| diddledan | How do | 11:01 |
| diddledan | Bah @autocorrect | 11:01 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 11:01 |
| bigcalm | Morning davmor2 | 11:01 |
| dwatkins | bah, 4od doesn't even start playing for me | 11:04 |
| dwatkins | perhaps because it thinks I'm in Ireland | 11:04 |
| diddledan | What you doing in Ireland? | 11:04 |
| bigcalm | proxy? | 11:05 |
| dwatkins | big network | 11:06 |
| dwatkins | our traffic routes through a different office | 11:10 |
| bigcalm | Shouldn't you be working instead of watching 4od? :P | 11:11 |
| diddledan | Oh Yes. Work. :-p | 11:11 |
| bigcalm | Says he who was "testing" Papo & Yo earlier | 11:14 |
| foobarry | touche | 11:15 |
| foobarry | popey, are all your updates up to date on 12.04? | 11:16 |
| foobarry | i noticed flashpugininstaller wants to update | 11:17 |
| foobarry | i should have tired a full dist-upgrade before the fix | 11:17 |
| ali1234 | 4OD is borked for me | 11:19 |
| ali1234 | it just spins forever | 11:19 |
| foobarry | ali1234: did you read the scrollback? | 11:21 |
| foobarry | the askubuntu link fixed it | 11:21 |
| ali1234 | yeah? | 11:21 |
| AlanBell | worked for me too, I now have lots of adverts playing | 11:26 |
| AlanBell | and now I have Nigella eating food | 11:27 |
| popey | foobarry: i updated it yesterday | 11:27 |
| foobarry | nigella is everywhere :S | 11:28 |
| Laney | phwoar | 11:29 |
| Laney | if only | 11:29 |
| foobarry | :-| | 11:29 |
| diddledan | Really?! | 11:29 |
| foobarry | her marriage her that saatchi bloke seems utterly bizarre | 11:29 |
| diddledan | I don't think phwoar is warranted | 11:29 |
| foobarry | i'm married so i only have phwoar for my wife | 11:30 |
| bigcalm | ... | 11:31 |
| bigcalm | Is she reading your screen? | 11:31 |
| foobarry | nope | 11:31 |
| foobarry | but keeping the phwoar for my wife helps me have a healthy marriage | 11:31 |
| foobarry | £30 kobo? | 11:52 |
| * AlanBell has one | 11:52 | |
| AlanBell | kobo mini, it is rather good | 11:52 |
| foobarry | touch is out of stock at £30 but the mini is £30 | 11:54 |
| * popey hugs his nook | 11:55 | |
| diplo | http://www.troyhunt.com/2014/01/scammer-identifies-viruses-in-brand-new.html | 11:55 |
| diplo | :) | 11:55 |
| foobarry | he said cheap nook, not cheap nookie | 11:56 |
| diplo | heh | 11:57 |
| diplo | Was following that guy on twitter, was tweeting stuff as it happened :) | 11:57 |
| popey | where's the 30 quid kobo? | 12:04 |
| AlanBell | popey: smiths | 12:06 |
| kvarley | Is it possible to do this with a hosts file? Say I have a server setup running a bunch of virtualhost sites and one is x.com. I want to be able to access x2.com and it actually load x.com on the server IP I specify. | 12:06 |
| kvarley | I can't simply do x.com x.x.x.x because then I won't be able to access the live x.com | 12:07 |
| AlanBell | it has touchscreen e-ink display and wifi and has a web browser that works fairly well considering | 12:07 |
| BigRedS | kvarley: you need the server to be in cahoots with you | 12:08 |
| BigRedS | since your browser will ask it for x2.com and it might not know what to do with that request | 12:08 |
| DJones | I've had a kobo touch since they came out, they do work well, the web browser isn't that good to be honest, its more of a alpha release browser rather than something meant to be used | 12:08 |
| BigRedS | you *could* set x2.com to resolve to localhost and have a webserver there configured to do the appropriate redirect; what's the actual problem you're trying to solve? Testing a dev site? | 12:09 |
| kvarley | BigRedS: I have access to the server. My problem is the client has a live site running on x.com and my own server is running the same url as a virtualhost. I need to be able to access both the original site and the new one | 12:09 |
| popey | http://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/kobo-mini-white-ereader/product/36144563 | 12:09 |
| popey | that? | 12:09 |
| AlanBell | DJones: depends on what you want to do with it, if you want to write your own mini application specifically for it then it is great | 12:09 |
| kvarley | BigRedS: Granted I could change my virtualhost to a different URL but I was trying to keep it realistic so I can just switch to live whenever via DNS. I think I'm probably best changing it to x.fakedomain ? | 12:10 |
| AlanBell | popey: yup | 12:10 |
| BigRedS | kvarley: yeah, that's tricky. The least inelegant solution I've found is to use dev.whatever.com for dev/staging. It's something that I'd expected there to be a browser plugin for by now | 12:10 |
| kvarley | BigRedS: Ok thanks just checking I wasn't missing an obvious solution haha :) | 12:10 |
| AlanBell | popey: mass storage device and you can drop epub files on it and other stuff if you want to read on it | 12:10 |
| DJones | popey: http://www.whsmith.co.uk/dept/kobo-ereaders/home#kobo-ereaders Normal Kobo Touch is £30 (same as the kobo mini), but out of stock, not really a surprise as its old/obsolete stock that was replaced about 4-5 months ago | 12:11 |
| popey | sounds very similar to my nook | 12:11 |
| AlanBell | probably is | 12:13 |
| daftykins | http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/12/absurd-creature-of-the-week-2/ | 12:17 |
| daftykins | that thing is nasty | 12:17 |
| foobarry | the nook was £29 too wasn't it? | 12:19 |
| foobarry | my tablet takes too long to boot up and doesn't hold charge v well, so a cheapy cheap eink ereader would be good | 12:20 |
| foobarry | i appear to have pulled a whole rosemary bush out of my "rustic" foccacia roll | 12:23 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 12:24 |
| diddledan | Well done foobarry | 12:25 |
| foobarry | why do i have to "mod" my sandwiches :( | 12:25 |
| diddledan | Because you're a geek? | 12:26 |
| foobarry | nah, just like things with less excess | 12:26 |
| foobarry | mr moderation | 12:26 |
| BigRedS | Is there some way to force a CD on login in openssh? chrooted sftp dumps the user in the chroot dir, to which they cannot write | 12:31 |
| BigRedS | so I'm hoping to automate their arriving in a subdir to which they can write | 12:31 |
| foobarry | what does /etc/passwd say? | 12:32 |
| BigRedS | ah yeah, I guess I just make their homedir be that subdir | 12:32 |
| foobarry | either that or put something in .bash_profile to change dir, but that makes it more difficult for the next admin to discover whats happened | 12:36 |
| nigelb | all those nigella pings. | 12:36 |
| nigelb | :P | 12:37 |
| daftykins | XD | 12:37 |
| jussi | oooh, that nigella cook person does some fantastic food :D | 12:38 |
| nigelb | jussi: thank you :P | 12:40 |
| jussi | nigelb: hehe, sorry :P | 12:40 |
| jussi | she does do a nice show though :P? | 12:40 |
| MartijnVdS | nigelb: you're nigel B, he was talking about nigel A | 12:40 |
| nigelb | hahahaha | 12:40 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk | ||
| === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| * neuro glares at schwuk ... | 13:11 | |
| schwuk | neuro? | 13:13 |
| neuro | thou hast unfollowed me on the twitters | 13:14 |
| schwuk | schwuk: I have? | 13:14 |
| neuro | apparently | 13:14 |
| neuro | :) | 13:14 |
| daftykins | that devil! | 13:15 |
| neuro | I NO RITE | 13:15 |
| neuro | schwuk: lol | 13:15 |
| foobarry | i gave up facebook and twitter this week | 13:15 |
| foobarry | to see how i'd do without it | 13:15 |
| neuro | schwuk: wasn't sure if it was deliberate or accidental | 13:15 |
| foobarry | so far it's been q difficult tbh | 13:16 |
| schwuk | neuro: it appears I had. You were clearly no longer relevant to my interests. | 13:16 |
| neuro | schwuk: and wasn't upset either way, just curious, especially if it was something i had said | 13:16 |
| neuro | schwuk: yeah, that happens | 13:16 |
| neuro | maybe i should just tweet "ubuntu" every so often | 13:16 |
| foobarry | can evince do markup in PDFs yet? | 13:17 |
| foobarry | highlights etc | 13:17 |
| neuro | foobarry: i look at friendface every day or so, but i go on chitter in fits and bursts every few days or every couple of weeks | 13:17 |
| jussi | anyone here into home automation/sensors? | 13:28 |
| jussi | found this, was really cool I thought: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ninja/ninja-sphere-next-generation-control-of-your-envir | 13:28 |
| jussi | also been looking at https://sen.se | 13:28 |
| daftykins | hmm i may be forced to get a new boiler soon and was hoping to tie that into some form of control | 13:29 |
| jussi | daftykins: 259 AUD isnt all that much in sterling | 13:30 |
| jussi | 140 pounds | 13:30 |
| jussi | and there was free shipping iirc... | 13:30 |
| dwatkins | daftykins: you might find this site interesting: http://www.briandorey.com/category/Raspberry-Pi-.aspx | 13:31 |
| daftykins | ty sir! | 13:32 |
| daftykins | i don't think the Vailant condensing boilers my local supplier does are controllable mind :/ | 13:33 |
| SuperMatt | I thought you said mind controllable | 13:34 |
| SuperMatt | which would be a damn awesome boiler | 13:34 |
| daftykins | haha | 13:35 |
| daftykins | could probably have done with a comma that, yeah | 13:35 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: most of those smart controllers just use the cables you normally use to attach the temperature dial thingy | 13:35 |
| SuperMatt | oh that's cool | 13:36 |
| daftykins | yeah, they sell a wireless control module with the one i might get though | 13:36 |
| daftykins | so it's all-change again i think | 13:36 |
| Azelphur | My internet is nice and functional this morning, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Jan/2014-01-08-133628_1043x659_scrot.png | 13:37 |
| Azelphur | gave up trying to complete that speed test, dialup yeeeeaaaaaa | 13:37 |
| SuperMatt | good lord | 13:38 |
| SuperMatt | you must really be suffering | 13:38 |
| daftykins | Azelphur: you just can't catch a break can you? D: | 13:38 |
| Azelphur | indeed xD | 13:38 |
| Azelphur | they say they are gonna fix it next week | 13:38 |
| SuperMatt | are you sure there isn't a box in your house somewhere seeding a lot of torrents? | 13:38 |
| daftykins | that wouldn't do that much damage! | 13:39 |
| daftykins | a week!? | 13:39 |
| jussi | daftykins: the nice thing about that kickstarter thing is it is planned to be open source software | 13:39 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: maybe they put you on the children's internet? ;) | 13:39 |
| Azelphur | SuperMatt: yea, ISP has already confirmed they are getting a lot of complaints and it's caused by an overloaded node | 13:39 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: haha, maybe ;) | 13:39 |
| dwatkins | Azelphur: can you spend your days in a local coffee shop and bill them for the coffee? | 13:40 |
| Azelphur | I asked if they'd refund me for the month so I can get a 3g dongle, they said no | 13:41 |
| Azelphur | :< | 13:41 |
| dwatkins | "service not fit for use" is the phrase which springs to mind | 13:41 |
| MartijnVdS | that's not coffee though :) | 13:41 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: for you, I imagine that suggestion would have a whole different connotation ;) | 13:42 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: nah, we have Starbucks here. And they don't sell weed 8-) | 13:42 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: also something called "Coffee Company" | 13:42 |
| MartijnVdS | which seems similar | 13:42 |
| dwatkins | we don't even have a coffee shop near our office, just some dodgy looking trailers which sell burgers and pies | 13:43 |
| dwatkins | There's a Tesco, which has a little café, but it's a mile or two away. | 13:44 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: do you work in the middle of a field? | 13:44 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: nearly | 13:44 |
| dwatkins | we're right next to the bypass, so there's cheap housing on one side, and a chicken farm on the other | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: "What's this incredible smell?" | 13:45 |
| dwatkins | yep, we get that when the wind's blowing the wrong way | 13:45 |
| dwatkins | there's also the recycling centre / rubbish tip... | 13:45 |
| * MartijnVdS is in the middle of Amsterdam | 13:45 | |
| MartijnVdS | well, slightly to the west of the middle | 13:45 |
| dwatkins | we're about 5 miles from the centre | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | of Amsterdam?! | 13:46 |
| dwatkins | lol no | 13:46 |
| foobarry | kobo touch are back in stock | 13:55 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| foobarry | tempted. | 13:55 |
| jussi | dwatkins: so you could say you are "a little off centre" ? :P | 13:55 |
| SuperMatt | I've got a nook, which has a touch screen | 13:55 |
| SuperMatt | it's very good | 13:55 |
| dwatkins | jussi: aye, I'm a tad off-kilter | 13:56 |
| * dwatkins imagines SuperMatt sitting in a nook like this http://www.jimandellen.org/ellen/74Pallisers23Alicereadingwindowseat.jpg | 13:58 | |
| jussi | dwatkins: :D | 13:58 |
| SuperMatt | how did you know about my dresses? | 13:58 |
| MooDoo | dwatkins: yes in that dress too ;) | 13:58 |
| dwatkins | sorry, I couldn't find a better picture of what I imagined | 13:58 |
| SuperMatt | well now my cross dressing is out there, I guess I don't need to hide my true self any more | 13:59 |
| === SuperMatt is now known as SuperMary] | ||
| === SuperMary] is now known as SuperMary | ||
| dwatkins | I could tell you all about the night I wore a little black dress, but it was only once. | 13:59 |
| MooDoo | what about - http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2009/10/manchairpipe.png SuperMary | 13:59 |
| SuperMary | look, I've outed myself now | 14:00 |
| SuperMary | there's no going back in | 14:01 |
| dwatkins | once you pop, you can't stop | 14:01 |
| SuperMary | I wish I had small, girly hands, so I could reach the bottom of a pringle can without having to tip it up | 14:01 |
| SuperMary | there's always detritus at the bottom which gets all over your best peticoat | 14:02 |
| MooDoo | SuperMary: you go sista! | 14:02 |
| SuperMary | Where am I going? | 14:03 |
| jussi | in other news, Thomas Hitzlsberger came out.... only the 4th professional footballer to do so | 14:03 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMary: Up? | 14:04 |
| SuperMary | good answer | 14:04 |
| === SuperMary is now known as SuperMatt | ||
| SuperMatt | jussi: that's some good news | 14:04 |
| foobarry | came out of the dressing room? | 14:04 |
| jussi | http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25628806 | 14:05 |
| SuperMatt | I don't know if lack of out football players is low because of fear, or low because I don't know any gay guys that like football | 14:05 |
| foobarry | or maybe they prefer to talk about football | 14:05 |
| MooDoo | I really don't think that's news, does any one really care? he's a footy player, will it make a difference to his playing...no | 14:05 |
| SuperMatt | I think it's important for it to be mentioned | 14:05 |
| MooDoo | I don't think so...but that's just me | 14:06 |
| SuperMatt | there will be a time when everyone considers it normal, but that time isn't yet | 14:06 |
| foobarry | anyone had experience stripping drm from kobo books? and what formats does it support? | 14:06 |
| SuperMatt | so we have to make it news so that the bigots can finally get the picture | 14:06 |
| Seeker` | Someones sexual preference doesn't make any difference to anything ever | 14:06 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: well there's the fictional team with the 2 married (to each other) strikers: http://www.youtube.com/hankgames | 14:06 |
| MooDoo | Seeker`: +1 | 14:06 |
| * directhex smells privilege | 14:07 | |
| directhex | it's easy to say it doesn't matter if the issue has never affected you personally | 14:07 |
| directhex | but for a closeted teenager, gay role models are important | 14:07 |
| MartijnVdS | directhex: you agree it *shouldn't* matter though right? | 14:07 |
| directhex | MartijnVdS, well, duh | 14:07 |
| foobarry | normal = the usual condition | 14:07 |
| Seeker` | directhex: it doesn't matter whether a footballer is gay or not. | 14:07 |
| foobarry | by definition, normal = heterosexual | 14:07 |
| foobarry | but i know what you are saying | 14:07 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: uh? | 14:07 |
| directhex | Seeker`, it matters if you feel alienated by being different. "look at all these real men, none of them are gay" etc | 14:08 |
| foobarry | if i was gay i'd be more annoyed at the media overpromoting the camp gay guy over a more normal bloke | 14:09 |
| Myrtti | the point is you're not | 14:09 |
| Seeker` | directhex: I just don't think it should be news that someone is gay | 14:10 |
| Myrtti | and personally I wouldn't be able to say what I would or wouldn't think or do if I were | 14:10 |
| MooDoo | agreed | 14:10 |
| foobarry | Myrtti: i mean over a more normal gay guy | 14:10 |
| MooDoo | so any who, when you start your new job SuperMatt ? | 14:11 |
| SuperMatt | 20th | 14:12 |
| MooDoo | let me know how AWESOME it is :D | 14:12 |
| SuperMatt | I shall | 14:12 |
| MartijnVdS | AWE32some | 14:12 |
| MooDoo | woohoo | 14:12 |
| SuperMatt | I've been reading some docs today and it's seeming more awesome each time | 14:12 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: 32? that all, shouldn't it be at least 64? | 14:12 |
| * Seeker` realised how little his family know about computers when they started saying he now works for "linux" | 14:12 | |
| SuperMatt | I was gonna say I was looking forward to dressing down, but I already dress down | 14:13 |
| Seeker` | err, when they said my cousin now works for "linux" | 14:13 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: I had an AWE64, it didn't even come with enough memory! | 14:13 |
| * Seeker` managed to miss out some words there | 14:13 | |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: ah understand now | 14:13 |
| foobarry | in answer to my qusetion, kobo supports Books: EPUB, PDF and MOBI | 14:13 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: so that's all popular formats (mobi = kindle, I think) | 14:14 |
| foobarry | isn't amz kindle? | 14:14 |
| foobarry | drm removal req'd first | 14:14 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: deep down inside it's mobi :) | 14:14 |
| foobarry | so..will i always be able to remove drm from kindle? | 14:14 |
| MartijnVdS | had the whole DRM discussion last night.. a family member had bought a kindle and wanted to move over her iBooks (apple) books | 14:15 |
| bashrc | I doubt it | 14:15 |
| MartijnVdS | bashrc: as long as people hack kindles, they can figure out the DRM scheme and undo it.. it has to be decrypted for presentation anyway | 14:15 |
| foobarry | everytime i upgrade my OS i need to faff around trying to get calibre working with the drm removal etc | 14:16 |
| foobarry | its a pain | 14:16 |
| awilkins | ^^ this | 14:16 |
| awilkins | There are always periods where the DRM removal doesn't work | 14:16 |
| awilkins | Because it's catching up | 14:16 |
| awilkins | It's almost put me off buying books and having them delivered via the wifi because the OS upgrades come that way too | 14:17 |
| foobarry | next question... | 14:17 |
| foobarry | do they dispaly pdf natively or need to convert them? and does it suck? | 14:18 |
| awilkins | Kindle does show PDF and it does suck a bit | 14:18 |
| awilkins | Because PDF is designed to lay out for a page | 14:18 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: from what I've seen, they do it natively but (a) slow and (b) most PDFs don't have the required hints for text reflowing | 14:18 |
| awilkins | And an ereader screen works best when you can reflow the text | 14:18 |
| directhex | don't try to read comic book pdfs on an e-reader | 14:18 |
| daftykins | i was trying to put an epub into a folder for the amazon kindle app to read under android last night, i could've sworn i'd done it before | 14:20 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: the app might well support it. The devices don't. | 14:20 |
| daftykins | i can't tell now, i thought i had one or two on-device in a Kindle folder, but they're gone now | 14:21 |
| daftykins | can't even be sure if i really did use them or i'd bought them O_O | 14:21 |
| knightwise | evenin everyone | 14:24 |
| daftykins | heya | 14:24 |
| daftykins | although afternoon, i don't want it to be that late so soon D: | 14:24 |
| daftykins | 1hr to disassemble a Sony laptop, re-do the thermal paste, dust out the cooler and reassemble \o/ | 14:25 |
| knightwise | daftykins: ! cool :) | 14:26 |
| knightwise | daftykins: try Aldiko | 14:27 |
| knightwise | its a good reader | 14:27 |
| knightwise | for reading books and stuff under Android. | 14:27 |
| daftykins | yeah i ended up having to grab that :) | 14:27 |
| knightwise | I use Aldiko and Calibre .. golden combp | 14:27 |
| daftykins | mmm i saw talk of conversion with Calibre | 14:28 |
| daftykins | this was a sort of 5 minute stab before sleep though :> | 14:28 |
| knightwise | daftykins: its a good app, I've been using it over the last couple of years | 14:28 |
| knightwise | if you use calibresync you can push rss epubs to your device and stuff | 14:29 |
| foobarry | kobo ordered | 14:29 |
| knightwise | cool | 14:30 |
| foobarry | measly 2% cashback via quido | 14:32 |
| AlanBell | time for my afternoon porridge | 14:51 |
| bigcalm | I wish it was time for my afternoon nap | 15:01 |
| bigcalm | I'd sneak one in if I wasn't going to the LUG tonight | 15:01 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: that's this evening over steak surely? | 15:01 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: steaks from there are behind me. I only have the pulled pork now :D | 15:02 |
| bigcalm | You equate to attending the LUG as having a nap? | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: Noooooooo, but the look on your face after you've sccoffed says I want to be asleep now :) | 15:05 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 15:05 |
| bigcalm | I hope I have enough energy for badminton tomorrow evening | 15:06 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: why you been buying more pens? | 15:06 |
| bigcalm | o.O | 15:07 |
| bigcalm | No, but I did get around to buying proper footwear | 15:07 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: me somehow I missed the energy bit from your statement | 15:07 |
| ali1234 | urgh someone is spamming this server with hack attempts and filling up the logs | 15:09 |
| ali1234 | joomla!!!!! | 15:09 |
| diddledan__ | ali1234: this is why real sysadmins don't watch logs :-p | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | yeah i'm trying to track down a different problem and the logs are just this hack attempt over and over | 15:11 |
| diddledan__ | unless it's filling up to such a degree that you're running out of space :-) | 15:11 |
| diddledan__ | ergh | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | it would be if not for log rotate | 15:11 |
| diddledan__ | yeah I feel for you | 15:11 |
| diddledan__ | my webserver logs are diagnosis-only | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | basically we have 1 week of logs | 15:12 |
| diddledan__ | I never look at them unless something goes wrong | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | normally the log rotate would last like a year | 15:12 |
| MartijnVdS | but thanks to .xz those logs an be only 100kb ;) | 15:19 |
| MartijnVdS | only have to be* | 15:19 |
| foobarry | does logrotate support xz? | 15:20 |
| foobarry | if i rmember the config files say "compress" | 15:21 |
| foobarry | but i can't remember where the type is set | 15:21 |
| popey | i love that we use logrotate on the phone | 15:24 |
| popey | makes it feel like a proper geeky device | 15:24 |
| MartijnVdS | to rotate call logs? ;) | 15:25 |
| foobarry | i never know waht the heck android is doig, would be nice to have a phone i could troubleshoot properly | 15:27 |
| foobarry | and turn off logging etc to speed it up | 15:28 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: no there are a whole heap of upstart application logs etc | 15:29 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| === jussi is now known as android | ||
| === android is now known as jussi | ||
| diplo | Anyone in here use replication software | 16:25 |
| SuperMatt | what kind of replication? | 16:25 |
| diplo | heh, was tring to get links before anyone replied | 16:25 |
| diplo | http://www.visionsolutions.com/Products/DT-Avail.aspx | 16:25 |
| SuperMatt | ah, I wouldn't know about windows stuff | 16:26 |
| diplo | http://www.quest.com/netvault/ | 16:27 |
| diplo | Nah on linux machines | 16:27 |
| diplo | http://www.quest.com/netvault/ | 16:27 |
| foobarry | eye strain from staring at vmware pages all day :( | 16:27 |
| diplo | Basically the customer is currently using the latter one, but my boss wants me to install the first one | 16:27 |
| diplo | And I was wondering ( can't find any answers via google ) whether there would be any conflicts on a linux box if they are both trying to replicate | 16:28 |
| SuperMatt | I have no idea | 16:35 |
| diplo | Me either :) | 16:36 |
| SuperMatt | As long as they're not replicating at the same time, I can't see it being much harm | 16:37 |
| SuperMatt | but then you're potentially doubling your downtime | 16:37 |
| diplo | Its replicated at block level, does it live | 16:38 |
| SuperMatt | hurm | 16:38 |
| SuperMatt | sounds like if you're running two at once, you're just adding extra overheard to your server | 16:39 |
| SuperMatt | *overhead | 16:39 |
| diplo | Yeah can't think of it causing an issue unless some sort of kernel issue running two of these types of applications at the same tiem | 16:39 |
| SuperMatt | Why not just drbd? | 16:40 |
| diplo | Or having two installed more to the point | 16:40 |
| diplo | Never tried it | 16:40 |
| diplo | I've barely ever touched this type of software before, basically we got a tes tlicense last year, I set it up on two vms, sync'd explained how to set it up and haven't seen it since | 16:41 |
| diplo | And now they want me to install it on a customers site and I'm not sure I want to break it :D | 16:41 |
| daftykins | diplo: ouch! | 16:42 |
| diplo | This is what my place is like unfortunately, no hardware/software really to test with | 16:42 |
| diplo | I like the looks of DRBD though | 16:42 |
| === roht is now known as wadzi | ||
| diplo | I'm supposed to be a software dev now ( supposedly! ) but anything more than config changes I get to do | 16:44 |
| daftykins | ...are? | 16:45 |
| diplo | ? Basically we're a software company but offer support on anything IT related, except that apart from basics all the guys in the offices know is basic setup or stuff they've done before | 16:46 |
| diplo | I'd rather be back as sysadmin full time than what I do now | 16:46 |
| popey | hehe http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/08/meizu-mx3-shows-ubuntu-certified-labelling/ | 16:48 |
| diplo | looks like a lavel removed from a laptop or similar and stuck on it :D | 16:49 |
| diplo | label* | 16:49 |
| popey | yeah ☻ | 16:49 |
| daftykins | XD | 16:58 |
| diddledan__ | especially as the top-right corner is creased where they used their fingernails to remove it from said laptop | 16:59 |
| daftykins | ugh driver woes in Windows, who'd have thought... D: | 17:01 |
| diddledan__ | wait, windows has issues? | 17:01 |
| diddledan__ | what planet are you from?! | 17:02 |
| daftykins | a little known one | 17:07 |
| diddledan__ | ork? | 17:07 |
| diddledan__ | you name isn't mork by any chance? | 17:07 |
| daftykins | wait let me check for rainbow braces | 17:07 |
| daftykins | just a lovely clean install on a Sony laptop (: | 17:07 |
| diddledan__ | my old sony loplop was a workhorse - gotta be over 10 years old now tho | 17:08 |
| diddledan__ | pentium M | 17:08 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:08 |
| daftykins | quirky to install in Windows they are, as everything must go on in the right order | 17:08 |
| diddledan__ | complete with centrino tech | 17:08 |
| daftykins | that was just marketing meaning intel 1) wifi card 2) chipset 3) processor | 17:09 |
| diddledan__ | yup | 17:09 |
| daftykins | but a nice combo at that :D | 17:09 |
| diddledan__ | just meant that all three were present and made by intel | 17:09 |
| daftykins | yip | 17:12 |
| daftykins | Queenie doesn't look too youthful on my neighbouring isles' money | 17:50 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/qq4ywvl05rxnj04/IMG_20140108_174741.jpg | 17:51 |
| MooDoo | evening all | 17:51 |
| directhex | daftykins, she's 87 | 17:51 |
| daftykins | yes, historically our money is hilariously out of date though | 17:53 |
| daftykins | hi MooDoo | 17:53 |
| MartijnVdS | get a new monarch more often | 17:53 |
| MartijnVdS | that keeps the money fresh :) | 17:53 |
| MartijnVdS | (though the "Willem-Alexander" euros still haven't been released yeat) | 17:53 |
| MartijnVdS | yet | 17:53 |
| shauno | I'd vote for a new monarch | 17:57 |
| shauno | not that there's anything wrong with this one, she just got a bit boring | 17:58 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| MooDoo | shauno: we need harry as king :) | 18:14 |
| jussi | MooDoo: then you have legalised canabis, drinking, dressing up as dictators, and other fuin... | 18:29 |
| jussi | how old is the old bird anyway? | 18:30 |
| MartijnVdS | 18:51 < directhex> daftykins, she's 87 | 18:30 |
| jussi | ahh, the value of reading back more than a few lines | 18:30 |
| daftykins | ;) | 18:31 |
| jussi | have any of you got pounds with the King on them still? I would actually really like to have one of those... | 18:31 |
| daftykins | i don't even know what Guernsey used prior to decimalisation | 18:37 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: my grandmother used to collect coins with the queen Wilhelmina on them (and that was when we had Beatrix, after Juliana) | 18:37 |
| MartijnVdS | jussi: she then divided those coins among her grandchildren at the end of the year | 18:37 |
| daftykins | did the kids try to eat them thinking they were chocolate? | 18:39 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: no, because the coins weren't larger or anything | 18:39 |
| daftykins | size doesn't affect chocolate potential! | 18:41 |
| popey | Evening all | 18:46 |
| MartijnVdS | \o popey | 18:46 |
| daftykins | gentlemen *tips hat* | 18:47 |
| daftykins | i am keen to try out this Chinese place tonight | 18:47 |
| daftykins | i've not bought a Chinese since moving into this place, as i didn't know where they were | 18:47 |
| popey | \o/ chinese | 18:47 |
| popey | we had chinese last weekend, was yum | 18:47 |
| popey | not had any for a while | 18:47 |
| daftykins | 8D | 18:47 |
| popey | crispy duck nom nom | 18:47 |
| daftykins | i've never branched out especially far with Chinese | 18:48 |
| daftykins | i always get Chicken in Black Bean sauce with egg fried rice | 18:48 |
| popey | also, shredded chilli beef | 18:48 |
| popey | nom nom nom | 18:48 |
| popey | we usually get the same tbh | 18:48 |
| popey | also, lemon chicken | 18:48 |
| popey | also, king prawn noodles.. | 18:48 |
| popey | oh god I have just eaten and now want chinese | 18:48 |
| daftykins | :D | 18:54 |
| * daftykins hides | 18:54 | |
| daftykins | what *did* you have? | 18:54 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: get some chinese green tea instead ;) | 18:54 |
| daftykins | hahar | 18:58 |
| MartijnVdS | http://thecodinglove.com/post/72681300803/how-i-picture-our-apps-users | 19:05 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:07 |
| Myrtti | BABBY MEERKAT! | 19:16 |
| daftykins | WHERE!? | 19:17 |
| Myrtti | apparently at home in UK | 19:17 |
| Myrtti | but | 19:17 |
| mapps | time to watch lone survivor;) | 19:19 |
| Myrtti | http://www.ebay.com/itm/131088791212 <-- BABBY MEERKAT | 19:19 |
| daftykins | :O | 19:19 |
| daftykins | in a onesie! | 19:19 |
| Myrtti | it's so KYYYYUUUTTE | 19:20 |
| daftykins | bid Myrtti! quick! | 19:21 |
| Myrtti | why, I already have one ;-) | 19:21 |
| Myrtti | well, we have one | 19:22 |
| daftykins | they can be twins! | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | how is babby meerkat formed? | 19:26 |
| daftykins | to yahoo answers! | 19:27 |
| Myrtti | oh dear | 19:29 |
| daftykins | from another channel: http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | that link is broken here | 19:31 |
| daftykins | oh yes | 19:32 |
| Myrtti | apparently the Babby has a nappy underneath the babygro :-D | 19:35 |
| lazarus_ | anybody know of any company's within the UK that sell the ubuntu laptop/desktop | 20:05 |
| Azelphur | dell sell some, http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd | 20:07 |
| lazarus_ | dell makes me cringe | 20:08 |
| lazarus_ | but | 20:08 |
| Azelphur | lazarus_: http://linuxpreloaded.com/ is a handy page, do ctrl+f for UK | 20:08 |
| Azelphur | seems to have quite the list | 20:09 |
| foobarry | had ti turn off the news.. too much duggan stuff | 20:35 |
| * AlanBell has been rooting a kobo :) | 22:42 | |
| celesteh | i am trying to install ubuntu on my gf's lenovo from a dvd and i can't get the damn thing to boot off a dvd. any suggestions on how to get into the bios thingee? | 22:52 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| shauno | kobo? | 23:06 |
| shauno | celesteh: I don't know myself, but there's comprehensive-looking list at http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=YAST-3JWKJX (short answer, if it has a blue button, it's that one) | 23:07 |
| celesteh | cheers, it's function-F12. | 23:32 |
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