[00:00] <ikonia> Blackshear: there is no linux port
[00:00] <HDRDanny> Steam Crashed.
[00:00] <Daemoen> ikonia: yeah, i havent even attempted to do kickstart yet
[00:00] <Daemoen> im forcing myself to learn preseed
[00:00] <Daemoen> i just dont like its syntax; im sure id feel the same if i was a debber instead of a hatter, but meh
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> Daemoen: you using the debconf-tools?
[00:01] <Daemoen> hitsujiTMO: hrm ?
[00:01] <Daemoen> forgive my stupidity about all things deb/ubuntu, i know more than enough to be dangerous, but not enough to be familiar enough to know which tools do what =D
[00:02] <Bashing-om> jacob_: Whats up ?
[00:02] <Blackshear> ikonia, so tis tutorial is false?, http://www.parityportal.com/2013/06/11/itunes-on-ubuntu-heres-how-you-get-it-running/
[00:02] <ikonia> Blackshear: yes
[00:03] <Blackshear> ol
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> debconf-get-selections + debconf-set-selections. its used to figureout out preseed configs. dump the current preseed with debconf-get-selections. do you action. then dump the newer preseed again with dobconf-get-selections. diff the two files and thats your preseed vals
[00:03] <jacob_> hi i upgraded to ubuntu 13.1 and now my streaming video is really choppy. it might have been something i did trying to get netflix to work but im not sure. any ideas?
[00:03] <spearhead> Blackshear, even if you could get it running (ikonia, you can) it doesn't run very well and it crashes a lot it just isn't worth it...
[00:04] <Bashing-om> jacob_: sorry, no experience with either, others will have to jump in here and advise.
[00:05] <ikonia> spearhead lets be real - no you can't its wine junk that changes usable experiences every time itunes does a version bump
[00:05] <ikonia> spearhead: that is not "working" that's some people writing a tutorial to get the gui to come up sometimes
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> Daemoen: oops forgot to ping you on the last message ^^^^
[00:05] <ikonia> so "no" itunes is not available on linux
[00:05] <jacob_> k. ok when you all or any of you have the chance
[00:06] <Daemoen> hitsujiTMO: ahh, yeah
[00:06] <qin> !info atunes
[00:06] <Daemoen> i tried that, i was told not to trust that method because it usually makes a mess of the preseed files :\
[00:06] <spearhead> ikonia, i agree but some people are so stuck on itunes that they will try anything to get it to work... and sometimes (once in a hundred blue moons) it does
[00:06] <ikonia> spearhead: so "no you can't install itunes on ubuntu" - it's just not a usable solution
[00:06] <ikonia> and really shouldn't be pushed to people
[00:07] <ikonia> itunes works on windows or mac osx, if you need itunes for syncing your phone/ipod/ipad, then that is the OS you need to use
[00:07] <pero> is there any reason why i wouldnt want to remove the src repos?
[00:08] <spearhead> ikonia, that is partially true... itunes *can* be installed it just *cannot* be used very well and *should not* be pushed on people as an option
[00:08] <ikonia> spearhead: please be realistic
[00:08] <Bashing-om> pero: none at all if you have no need/desire to look at the source codes.
[00:08] <pero> Bashing-om: thx
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> pero: if you're intending to modify some of the code in the packages ( such as with dwm where configuration happens in the source )
[00:09] <spearhead> ikonia, I am being realistic... that is what can, cannot, and should not be done
[00:09] <ikonia> spearhead: no-one in their right mind would want to install something to not use it, and as it can't be used in linux - it therefore cannot be installed in linux
[00:09] <Bashing-om> pero: I personally do not enable the src repos on any of my installs less my "working: install. Updates are Much faster.
[00:09] <qin> Bashing-om: "desire to look at the source codes." catchy stuff, mate.
[00:10] <ikonia> spearhead: running through the install routine is not really "installed" in terms of a working application, it just copies fines in place for wine to try to make a mess of it
[00:10] <spearhead> ikonia, i never said that people who tried to install itunes on ubuntu are in their right mind...
[00:11] <DaemeonZane> hola compadres
[00:11] <spearhead> ikonia, if you want to continue this discussion lets move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:11] <Bashing-om> qin: I have been known to get "caught" once in a while. Sometimes one wants to know, and the only answers are in reading the source code !
[00:11] <DaemeonZane> I have a quick question in regards to doing a system upgrade
[00:11] <ikonia> spearhead: lets not continue it
[00:12] <DaemeonZane> I'm upgrading via terminal from 12.10 to the 13.04 release, and for some reason, it's halted during setup, and I'm not sure what's safe to do and what's not
[00:12] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: if it's not completed - its not safe to do anything
[00:13] <DaemeonZane> Last messages were that it was setting up the downloaded packages, but its been stuck for the last 12 hours grabbing the latest flash
[00:13] <ikonia> flash is not in the repos
[00:13] <ikonia> it's from an external provider
[00:13] <DaemeonZane> I know it isn't
[00:13] <ikonia> right, so why is the package installed
[00:13] <Bashing-om> DaemeonZane: Check and make sure there is not a hidden pop-up window !
[00:14] <DaemeonZane> Because I use flash...?
[00:14] <DaemeonZane> lol
[00:14] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: right, but it goes to an external website....
[00:14] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: it's probably looking for a dead link and just sat there
[00:14] <DaemeonZane> ikonia: I know
[00:14] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: if you know this, "why is it installed"
[00:14] <DaemeonZane> That's exactly what I thin is happening
[00:15] <DaemeonZane> Ikonia: again, because I use Flash for certain development
[00:15] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: yes, so removing the external dependency before upgrading is the correct thing to do
[00:15] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: ubuntu cannot be responsible for adobe maintaining links - which they don't as flash is dead on linux
[00:15] <ikonia> and if you know this - you should have removed it
[00:15] <ikonia> (before upgrading)
[00:15] <DaemeonZane> I see that now, but with it hung obtaining the package, what is it safe to do, besides try again?
[00:16] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: it's not safe at all
[00:16] <ikonia> kill the install
[00:16] <ikonia> remove flash
[00:16] <ikonia> try again
[00:16] <DaemeonZane> Last output is as follows: http://pastebin.com/7xy3twDb
[00:17] <DaemeonZane> It has apparently downloaded everything and began setting it up, but has frozen at flash for the reasons you've already been kind enough to explain
[00:18] <DaemeonZane> I would assume that I should be able to kill the terminal, uninstall flash, and restart without it killing the whole install, but assumptions being the mother of all screwups, I wanted to check with those who have more experience than I before doing so
[00:18] <Blackshear> so theres absoulutley no way at all to transfer music to an ipod from linux, because we are assuming that itunes will not work well, ikonia
[00:18] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: there is no promise it will not cause a prolem
[00:18] <ikonia> Blackshear: no
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: best thing to do is install a vm with windows or osx and use that for itunes. or dualboot windows
[00:19] <DaemeonZane> @Blackshear: Rythmbox claims to be able to sync, but a VM is your best option, sir
[00:20] <DaemeonZane> I've been thru that one myself back in the 10.x releases
[00:20] <boboysdadda> how do i gain write permissions to /etc ?
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> boboysdadda: why do you want to write to /etc ?
[00:21] <DaemeonZane> gksu or sudo boboysdadda
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> DaemeonZane: hes gone.
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> Though poking around in /etc can cause major issues
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> apparently
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> ...
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> lol
[00:22] <FloodBot1> DaemeonZane: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:22] <DaemeonZane> Yeah, well... pardon me for being gramtically correct and typing fast. I'll try harder next time lol
[00:23] <DaemeonZane> Anyway, thanks for the heads up, ikonia
[00:23] <ikonia> DaemeonZane: let me know how you get on if you try kickstart, I try to keep notes on what's working/not working on that
[00:24] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[00:24] <Psil0Cybin> okay i am back burning the usb
[00:25] <DaemeonZane> ikonia: for sure. I'm still fairly new to Debian based distros, but I'm trying to learn fast. Linux has one hell of a steep learning curve lol
[00:25] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: are u still here
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: just about :P
[00:25] <DaemeonZane> Thank the gods for IRC and folks like yourself who are willing to throw out tips to even the n00biest of n00bs
[00:25] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okaay good
[00:25] <Psil0Cybin> burning it now
[00:27] <DaemeonZane> ikonia: I killed the terminal process for the dist-upgrade and I'm running dpkg to try and repair what's already installed
[00:27] <DaemeonZane> wish me luck
[00:27] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: burning it
[00:27] <Psil0Cybin> 6% complete.
[00:27] <Psil0Cybin> HisaoNakai:
[00:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: using my ubuntu 12.04 it downloaded server for 64bit amd
[00:28] <Psil0Cybin> but for the desktop its downloading i3 or something
[00:28] <DaemeonZane> I have a feeling I'll wind up downloading the 13.04 iso and just running a clean install
[00:28] <Psil0Cybin> that should be fine right
[00:29] <Psil0Cybin> HisaoNakai:
[00:29] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: might have downloaded the wrong desktop iso...sigh
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: assuming i cannot fix this with the server iso?
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> doh. needs to be 64bit to access the efi boot manager
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> kk so hitsujiTMO downloading 64 bit now...
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> :)
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: no server iso won't have the necessary tools
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> kk hitsujiTMO i am getting the 64 bit version right now.
[00:31] <glitsj16> DaemeonZane: 13.04 has only about 2 weeks to gobefore it's EOL ..
[00:33] <Synx|hm> Has anyone noiced odd behavior with iproute2 rules in the latest updates to ubuntu server?
[00:33] <Synx|hm> I think my iproute2 rules are nolonger correctly using me secondary gateway on a secondary NIC
[00:34] <Blackshear> if i wanted to make a short cut to the terminal on my desktop how would i do that?
[00:34] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: downloading it as a torrent
[00:34] <Psil0Cybin> will be way faster. 9 minutes
[00:34] <Psil0Cybin> and i will be ready for you, sorry to keep you waiting.
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: copy the .desktop to the Desktop from /usr/share/applications
[00:36] <daniel_> can someone send me the mint 16 OS?
[00:36] <ikonia> daniel_: no
[00:36] <ikonia> daniel_: it's on the mint website
[00:36] <ikonia> daniel_: it's nothing to do with ubuntu so not for discussion here
[00:37] <daniel_> ikonia sorry
[00:37] <ikonia> no proble
[00:37] <ikonia> problem
[00:37] <daniel_> whats the newest ubuntu?
[00:37] <ikonia> 13.10
[00:37] <ikonia> daniel_: ubuntu.com for more info
[00:37] <daniel_> i used to run ubuntu then switched to MInt
[00:38] <qin> daniel_: common mistake
[00:38] <daniel_> i forgot how to mention someone
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop ~/Desktop
[00:38] <ikonia> daniel_: you type their name
[00:39] <Beldar> daniel_, You can tab complete nicks as well. Kinda wonder why you would go from ubuntu to mint, but that is your choice.
[00:40] <x62656E> i went from probably a small to somehow quite a bigger problem. i can only access the tty
[00:40] <daniel_> beldar me and my dad switched versions just to experiment around a little
[00:40] <x62656E> how can i reset my complete x11, lightdm environment?
[00:41] <bekks> x62656E: reset to what?
[00:41] <x62656E> standard settings?
[00:41] <x62656E> or probably reinstalling them
[00:42] <daniel_> Beldar:me and my dad are just experimenting with diff linux distros and stuff
[00:43] <Beldar> daniel_, Ah, cool.
[00:43] <daniel_> Beldar i have also modded windows
[00:43] <daniel_> #Beldar i have also modded windows
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay finally
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> 64bit startup disk
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[00:44] <Psil0Cybin> almost done...
[00:44] <Beldar> daniel_, Just the name alone notifies, I just tab complete, here it just adds a comma with the nick is all.
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: sorry man bare with me. 52% done burning
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> and then we will be good to go / ill really need ur help loll
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it should be easily fixable you think tho right?
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> since all the files are already installed o nthe hd, and its raided and all
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> it just should be a simple fix of a string or something?
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> slash link?
[00:53] <bigbadben> is there a way to install security updates from the terminal? instead of using the gui
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hopefully. it really depends on what where it went wrong
[00:54] <ikonia> bigbadben: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: errr,well with you by my side the best we can try is try :P
[00:54] <Psil0Cybin> worst case ill just have to reinstall / reraid eh :P
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> with this hopefully as a learning experience :P
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[00:55] <Psil0Cybin> drive done booting in live cd.
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: start by pastebinning: lsblk
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> okay jut loading the live cd :P
[00:57] <sd> nick devinesteve
[00:57] <Guest65826> heh
[00:57] <Blackshear> so i want to make a short cut to vlc player
[00:58] <Blackshear> i found the application in /usr/bin/vlc
[00:58] <Blackshear> but the icon is not the trafic cone
[00:58] <Blackshear> how would i change this?
[00:58] <Blackshear> (i copied the file to the desktop)
[00:58] <bigbadben> ikonia, I thought sudo apt-get upgrade, literally upgraded you to the next version of ubuntu no?
[00:59] <ikonia> bigbadben: no
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: edit the .desktop file and point Icon to the past to an image of the traffic cone
[01:00] <Blackshear> hitsujiTMO, where is the .desktop file
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it takes for ever, just to get to the Try Ubuntu button
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> Blackshear: /usr/share/applications
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> the desktop loaded, but i cannot use the mouse now
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> pfft
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> oh my god >.<
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> this is never going to just be easy lol
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> ctrl + alt + t
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> i did but i wont be able to pastebin
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> anything
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> install pastebinit
[01:03] <spearhead> bigbadben, sudo apt-get upgrade checks the sources and then upgrades any packages that are out of date. there isn't an apt-get command that upgrades the version of ubuntu
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: ethernet is not working
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> i do not have internet...sigh
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> and mouse is not working
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hrm.. this is annoying :P
[01:06] <Bashing-om> spearhead: Keep in mind "do-relase-upgrade" .. just a reminder.
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: lsblk says
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what ethernet controller is on the machine?
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> sda => sda1 sda2 sda3 all in one list
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> than sdb - sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> in another
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> sdc sdc1 sdc2 sdc3 in another
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: no mds?
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> sdd -> sdd1 and loop0
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> loop1
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> i do not see mds hitsujiTMO anywhere
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> how can i find out what ethernet controller
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> is in the machine?
[01:07] <glitsj16> Blackshear: are you using unity by any chance? if so there's other options than creating desktop launchers for your favo apps -- if you don't i'm making no sense sojust ignore
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mdadm --assemble --scan
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> although the install said it created MDs hitsujiTMO
[01:08] <spearhead> Bashing-om, yes, but that is a separate program not an apt-get command
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> no command found mdadm
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> crap
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> oh man :(
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> need mdadm to setup the mds so we can mount em
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> oh man
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> *hits head against table*
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do than now?
[01:09] <Blackshear> how do i make a desktop link to usr/share/applications
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> why did i have this issue, i am so confused it said it created the md tables fine and evyerhting
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> and it installed the whole system
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> and with the internet and mouse not working
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> this is going to be a whole week thing just to get the O.S on eh?
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin:  yes. but its not aware of them right now. you have to tell it about them
[01:10] <Bashing-om>  spearhead : That is a true thing, My point was that there is a terminal command to "upgrade" to the next release.
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: it will have that info loaded in grub on the install
[01:11] <Psil0Cybin> oh okay hitsujiTMO so what should we do right now?
[01:11] <Psil0Cybin> with this given silly situation i am in.
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok: lspci | grep Ethernet
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> Ethernet controller: realtek semiconductor Co LTD. RTL8111 8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 060
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> 06)
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: whats then ven_id + dev_id
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> Ethernet Controller [0200] Realtek semiconductor Co LTD RTL8111 8168B PCI Express Gigabit
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> Ethernet Controller
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> [10ec:8168] rev (o6)
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> how do i find out ven_id or dev_id?
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: 10ec:8168 is vendor_id:device_id
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> kay
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> got the mouse working
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> using another usb port
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO so i provided it properly :)
[01:16] <nearst> hi good ppl
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok: lspci -knn | grep Ethernet -A 3                                does it specify a driver?
[01:17] <Bashing-om> nearst: Hello to you too .
[01:17] <Psil0Cybin> syas Kernel Driver in use: r88169
[01:17] <Psil0Cybin> r8169*
[01:17] <Synx|hm> what is the correct way to manage default runlevel startups? update-rc.d?
[01:17] <Synx|hm> from the console
[01:17] <nearst> Bashing-om: i got problem wit my unity on raring. its blank. only X cursor
[01:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: seems like the driver, is installed on the system I am confused.
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: reading up on it now. seems to be an old driver that has issues on kernels > 2.6
[01:19] <nearst> Synx|hm: try update-rc.d --help
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: oh lol
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> what would i do with out you...
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: anything in: ifconfig
[01:20] <Synx|hm> nearst: just making sure update-rc.d is the "correct" way i thought at one point there was an update-service, and i didn't see a switch to list all services in update-rc.d but ill be honest i did not dig too deep
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig says Ethernet RX Packets 458 errors: 0 dropped 1
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> than TX packets 0 errors 0 dropped 611
[01:21] <nearst> Synx|hm: try look for BUM in package manager. it would manage runlevel :)
[01:21] <Synx|hm> nearst: thanks
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: does not give IP information or anything
[01:21] <Pici> !runlevels
[01:21] <Bashing-om> nearst: Have you tried terminal command: setsid unity <- ?
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: looks like it things the ethernet is not connected, or as if its not getting internet
[01:22] <Synx|hm> !Upstart
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> from the ethernet.
[01:23] <nearst> Bashing-om: im in console atm :D , try different method including dconf reset but not work
[01:23] <nearst> it happen last night ima install python-pyopencl :(
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> lo is set to link encap: local loopback
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what would I look for specifically in ifconfig?
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: just to see if the eth0 is there or not
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> oh its there
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> just no actually connectivitiy seems like
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> even the light is going off tho at the back of the computer beside the ethernet wire.
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: seems to be lots of mentions that it doen't actually work tho: http://askubuntu.com/questions/396804/rtl8111-8168b-rev-06-ethernet-controller-not-working-with-amd64-kernels-2-6
[01:25] <nearst> yawn. i hate dpkg-reconfigure -a
[01:25] <Psil0Cybin> ouch
[01:25] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what would i do than.....
[01:25] <Psil0Cybin> download another versio nof the seaver, and redo everything?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> nearst: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ (?) how about :sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (?)
[01:26] <kay______> ?
[01:26] <kay______> oh
[01:27] <nearst> Bashing-om: try both. still
[01:27] <dougl> where do you talk about 14.04
[01:28] <Pici> dougl: #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <Bashing-om> nearst: umphhh,, is python functioning ? from that install ya did ?
[01:28] <dougl> thanks
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: will it be possible to get a server working on this computer? or do i need to return it / the parts
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> I am confused, if this is physically possible at this point
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: looks like you'll need to build the driver: http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> to get the mouse/ethernet/OS working lmao
[01:28] <nearst> Bashing-om: yea. its working
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[01:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: is that alot of work? to do
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> so we need to get the ethernet working
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: i wouldn't be too worried about the mouse, its the ethernet thats the problem
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> once that works we can diagnose the raid errors.
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yup. unfortunately i need to head to bed soon
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> darn okay, do u think we can get the etho working today and than tmoro u can help me with the raid issues?
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> just because I am at work
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> i have been here for 5 hours but got nothing actually done :(
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> since all i have is errors.
[01:30] <Bashing-om> nearst: as reconfigure and dconf both fail, all I can come up with is to (re-)install unity and see what haps.
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so following the guide
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> i need to download the driver put it on a usb?
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> and ull continue to help me
[01:30] <nearst> actually, what is init:at-spi2-registryd respawning too fast, stopped . from .xsession-errors
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i need this file right
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> LINUX driver for kernel 3.x and 2.6.x and 2.4.x
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> 8.037.00	2013/9/24
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: have a usb handy. you need the driver, but you also need the build-essential packages
[01:31] <nearst> Bashing-om: im did apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop unity on earlier. idk why still blank
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i have a uSB handy
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> i got the r8168.tar.bz2 package
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> whhat else do i need?
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what country are you in?
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> Canada
[01:33] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[01:33] <Psil0Cybin> i am putting the driver on the usb stick
[01:33] <Bashing-om> nearst: Presently I am out of ideas, will ponder and look about, if I come up with other options I will holler at ya.
[01:34] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i got it
[01:34] <Psil0Cybin> what else do i need.
[01:34] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: r8168-8.037.00.tar.bz2
[01:34] <irimi> Hey guys. I am trying to install ubuntu (13.10) on my new laptop with a Geforce 750, sadly the screen remains black due to some nouveau bug; - how can I disable nouveau driver loading during LiveCD booting ?
[01:35] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: do i need this as well
[01:35] <Psil0Cybin> [build-essential_11.5ubuntu2.tar.gz]
[01:35] <glitsj16> irimi: why do you think it's a nouveau bug? any errors that suggest that?
[01:36] <Beldar> irimi, Couple questions, have you tried a nomodeset boot, and is this a dual boot, if so with what?
[01:36] <glitsj16> Beldar: sorry :)
[01:36] <irimi> because this is what I found out so far, via adding "nomodeset" line I was able to boot up into the console, but then I have no X / installer
[01:36] <p0wder> irimi:  did you install from usb or cd?
[01:36] <irimi> livecd
[01:36] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i put both tar.bz2 on the USB.
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hmm. do you have another machine that you can load the live cd that you can get the net going on?
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> i just have the laptop i am using now
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> and the machine with the livecd :(
[01:37] <Bashing-om> nearst: This maybe ? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04 (??)
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: can you boot the live cd on the laptop?
[01:37] <nearst> Bashing-om: not work too.
[01:37] <p0wder> irimi:  have u successfully booted from live cd?
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: no its an acer aspire one and requires a special kernel to even boot LOL
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> i wont be able to find right now its at home on a usb disk
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: bah
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> so im out of luck tonight eh hitsujiTMO
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> or could I just attempt to resintall the server...I suppose
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> need a good few packages for build-essential
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> and repartition all that jazz again..
[01:38] <irimi> p0wder: yes, when I specify nomodeset, yes, but then I do not get an X11 running but see the nouvau bugs in the dmesg output
[01:38] <Bashing-om> nearst: I keep looking.
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: darn
[01:38] <irimi> that is why I want to not load nouveau et all during boot
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that could be an option. try the reinstall and tomorrow worry about the ethernet
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> lets say today i ran into that problem again that you helped me on
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> so you are saying it was becasue it was not configured properly to boot off everything else?
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> just the ET something or EF?
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you have this text log right?
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> yea, I am going to print it off.
[01:39] <nearst> Bashing-om: oh. i found it. its from that opencl apps. just purge and reconfigure xserver-xorg. now it working. gonna log out to gui :D. brb
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> ughhit
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO:
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> I do not have the text log!!
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> cleared the screen much above, could you peraps pastebin me a link
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> of the whole logs
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> so let me just double check
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> attempt to reinstall server/ repartition/ reraid.
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps I will do the ex4, swap and then EF?
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> when I label the partitions?
[01:41] <Bender> Hey all. Is there a way to get your mysql password if you have forgotten it?
[01:41] <Bender> Or will I need to remove/reinstall
[01:42] <jzk1> So I upgraded to 13.10... I was dropped into this gnome-shell thing which is like incomplete as far as usability goes
[01:42] <jzk1> I can't believe something like this was shipped
[01:42] <Psil0Cybin> sorry hitsujiTMO just that last question
[01:42] <Psil0Cybin> before i attempt this all over again :'(
[01:43] <p0wder> irimi:  have you tried to replace the drivers with geforce?
[01:43] <glitsj16> Psil0Cybin: fyi, this channel (and many ubuntu-related ones) are logged, you can always get to them at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[01:43] <Psil0Cybin> oh was not sure! thanks
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hmm. my #ubuntu.log is 19mb ... goota prune it a bit
[01:43] <irimi> p0wder: there is no ubuntu on the system yet; I am just running a plain livecd :)
[01:43] <psusi> Bender, iirc the mysql root password is defined in the config file
[01:43] <irimi> p0wder: and would be able to install ubuntu, however
[01:45] <glitsj16> irimi: can you disable your GPU in BIOS? just to try and get around the nouveau bug(s)?
[01:45] <Psil0Cybin> i cant find
[01:45] <Psil0Cybin> a
[01:45] <irimi> searched for it, not found in the bios nor as a hardware switch :(
[01:45] <Psil0Cybin> alink to this log specifically.
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok. actually http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/07/%23ubuntu.txt and http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/08/%23ubuntu.txt contains the lot
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks hitsujiTMO
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> i am off to stress out some more, i really hope i figure this out
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the main thing is to try and make sure the efi system partition mounts to /boot/efi
[01:46] <glitsj16> irimi: perhaps the minimal cd, that has a text (ncurses) based installer .. just thinking out loud
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> /boot/efi
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that could be where the issue is. hopefully someone else may be able to chime in if you get stuck
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> would it specify that because before remember it just said EFIBOOT
[01:47] <irimi> glitsj16: so can I just use the ubuntu server installer and then install it (text mode) and in the end install X by hand ?
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> so i was confused
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> why it just said EFIboot and didnt give a directory or anything
[01:47] <glitsj16> !minimal | irimi
[01:48] <irimi> glitsj16: ok, burning yet another one then... thx :)
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> the 2.0 tb was the ex4, then 16 gb was the EFI and the other was the swap
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> right hitsujiTMO
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> sorry lastssst question
[01:48] <glitsj16> irimi: not a way around nouveau heh, goodluck
[01:48] <Beldar> irimi, This a uefi W8 computer?
[01:48] <irimi> glitsj16: ugh, wait, that's just 36MB big, can I use an usb stick for that, too?
[01:49] <irimi> Beldar: yes, uefi-enabled
[01:49] <glitsj16> irimi: sure, same procedure as for a DVD
[01:50] <Beldar> irimi, Ah, have you resized windows with it's partitioner leaving a unallocated and imaged it and made a recovery disc?
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: minimal doesnt work from usb and isnt uefi capable
[01:50] <Emery> Can anyone help me use root?
[01:50] <Beldar> I figured the mini was not efi as well
[01:50] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: ouch ... thanks .. nothing but rabbitholes it seems
[01:50] <irimi> Beldar: I did not get into anything as nouvau does not let me display anything but black pixels. so no, I did not change a bit on the disk yet (though, I don't care about loosing W8 on it)
[01:50] <Emery> How do I use root please?
[01:50] <Emery> I want to enable the root account
[01:51] <rww> !sudo
[01:51] <rww> !noroot
[01:51] <Emery> not sudo
[01:51] <Emery> i want root
[01:51] <Beldar> irimi, Sure, however you have a gpt partition table, so good luck.
[01:51] <rww> see second factoid, then
[01:51] <Emery> that doesn't apply
[01:51] <Emery> i need a root acc
[01:51] <Emery> to install chrome
[01:51] <irimi> Beldar: did that for my desktop pc already. it's working :)
[01:51] <rww> no you don't, and see second factoid, wherein you will learn we do not support this.
[01:51] <nearst> Emery, use sudo apt-get install google-chrome
[01:51] <Emery> i tried that
[01:52] <Emery> it said i need root
[01:52] <Beldar> irimi, Same manufacturer?
[01:52] <rww> because you didn't put sudo in front of it
[01:52] <Emery> someone said to do, rm -rf /*
[01:52] <Emery> but that didnt work
[01:52] <Emery> :(
[01:52] <irimi> Beldar: no. one is desktop pc, the other one is my (new) laptop; as said, uefi is not the problem here :)
[01:52] <Emery> man i dont understand ubuntu
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> Emery: install the deb from chome site. then sudo apt-get -f install
[01:52] <elky> Emery: that's a bad thing to do. don't listen to that person anymore.
[01:53] <Emery> so how do i install windows on ubuntu?
[01:53] <Emery> if i dont want to use it
[01:53] <Beldar> irimi, Just noting that the manufacturers have done their own voodoo on uefi...etc si be aware is all.
[01:53] <elky> in a virtual machine
[01:53] <Beldar> so*
[01:53] <Emery> virtual machine?
[01:53] <Emery> so my CD wont work?
[01:53] <daniel_> Emery:windows is an entirely different opperating system Emery
[01:53] <Emery> this guy told me if i put the CD in, I could install it
[01:54] <elky> Emery: i have a distinct feeling you're only here to waste our time
[01:54] <Emery> huh?
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the 200mb was efi, 2tb wat root and 16gb was swap
[01:54] <Emery> elky i'm trying to understand how it works
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: your the best. good night ill talk to you tomorrow. ill stop messaging you tonight :D
[01:54] <Emery> so can I install windows games on ubuntu?
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> if it does not work ill try not to stress and work it tomorrow.
[01:54] <nearst> lol. what happen here :)) arguing old topic
[01:54] <fer755> Emery: ubuntu dont have root for security reason.
[01:54] <elky> Emery: depends on the game.
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> at least hitsujiTMO you helped me alot with raid systems.
[01:54] <nearst> Emery, yes. u can use wine
[01:55] <az4z3l> elky: I got that same impression.
[01:55] <Emery> wine? what is that
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: cool. gnight
[01:55] <elky> if you don't know this, you should never have root
[01:55] <rww> !wine
[01:55] <Emery> oh!
[01:55] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: you will be on tomorrowish right?
[01:55] <Psil0Cybin> at some point
[01:55] <Emery> so can I enable root to use wine?
[01:55] <Psil0Cybin> what is the best time to reach you on IRC?
[01:55] <Psil0Cybin> ill go to the office then lol
[01:55] <rww> Emery: sure, but we're not going to tell you how
[01:55] <nearst> no need root, why root ? :D
[01:55] <az4z3l> Emery: sudo su
[01:55] <p0wder> Emery:  restart your computer press f9 and select to boot from cd and have your windows cd in there
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yup will do. I should be on most of the day
[01:55] <Emery> why would I reboot?
[01:55] <glitsj16> Emery: http://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads might be usefull
[01:55] <az4z3l> Emery: then enter your password.
[01:56] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: amazing ty! your the best...actually...you help me all the time i relaly wish i could repay you eventually.
[01:56] <Emery> so let me get this right
[01:56] <Emery> you CANT install windows on ubuntu
[01:56] <Emery> at all?
[01:56] <wtflux> why cant you?
[01:56] <Emery> idk
[01:56] <Emery> im confused
[01:56] <elky> windows is not a program. windows is an alternative to ubuntu. you can install operating systems like windows and ubuntu in virtual machines.
[01:56] <Mongo44> Anyone read some good books?
[01:56] <az4z3l> Emery: There is no real reason to. Just dual boot. Google 'dual boot with ubuntu and windows'
[01:56] <nearst> u can install. but on VM
[01:56] <Emery> OH so windows is an operating system, i see!
[01:57] <lavadarkshadow> hi
[01:57] <lavadarkshadow> hi
[01:57] <lavadarkshadow> hi
[01:57] <FloodBot1> lavadarkshadow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:57] <elky> az4z3l: don't bother, he's here to get everyone's attenton and waste their time.
[01:57] <wtflux> why cant i run ubuntu on fat16 filesystem
[01:57] <wtflux> ?
[01:57] <daniel_> Emery:ITS TWO DIFFERENT OPERATING SYSTEMS you have to partition the drive to a dual boot setup and then load a bootloader like GRUB
[01:57] <Emery> right so what about OSX?
[01:57] <Emery> someone said that's pretty much linux
[01:57] <nearst> why is subjective
[01:57] <fer755> Emery u can install ubuntu in windows too whit a virtual machine sofware
[01:57] <wtflux> im trying to setup ubuntu with fat16 can someone plz help
[01:57] <nearst> !man
[01:57] <Emery> surely if that's linux also, i can run that?
[01:57] <daniel_> Emery:dude how old are you?
[01:58] <Emery> 14
[01:58] <Emery> why?
[01:58] <psusi> wtflux, because fat doesn't support unix features like ownership, permissions, and symbolic and hard links
[01:58] <elky> Emery: ask them. they forbid it in their EULA iirc
[01:58] <az4z3l> elky: ya, as soon as I saw 'windows is an operating system' I went back to my work
[01:58] <Emery> elky so it is possible?
[01:58] <wtflux> what about fat32
[01:58] <Emery> but not allowed?
[01:58] <punto> hi.. when I run "update-manager -d" it tells me I can upgrade to 14.04, but that's too unstable for me, how do I get it to show 13.10 as an option?
[01:58] <elky> Emery: i've never done it. i don't use osx.
[01:58] <wtflux> or are you thinking NTSF?
[01:58] <psusi> wtflux, same thing...
[01:58] <elky> Emery: meanwhile you're going to start asking reasonable questions and stop trolling this channel
[01:58] <Emery> right so can i install ubuntu on osx?
[01:58] <Beldar> punto, From 12.04 you have to go through 13.04 to get there.
[01:58] <Emery> if that's linux?
[01:58] <rww> punto: -c instead of -d
[01:58] <elky> wtflux: you know the answers to these questions.
[01:59] <daniel_> punto:you download it from a server and re install it
[01:59] <wtflux> ?
[01:59] <p0wder> Emery:  u dont need that much power at your level
[01:59] <Beldar> punto, and 12.10
[01:59] <psusi> Emery, you can install it *beside* osx and dual boot
[01:59] <Emery> p0wder, OSX is too much power?
[01:59] <nearst> punto, safe upgrade would be sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade / sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:59] <fer755> az4z3l hahahahha
[01:59] <Emery> why is osx too much power
[01:59] <p0wder> nonono
[01:59] <psusi> Emery, and osx is not linux
[01:59] <elky> p0wder: don't feed the troll
[01:59] <Emery> psusi, it is?
[01:59] <Emery> this dude was like those fags in #ubuntu are such retards
[01:59] <daniel_> Emery: i would leave before you embarrs yourself any further
[01:59] <Emery> I was like LOL
[02:00] <nearst> lol
[02:00] <daniel_> Emery:I would leave before you embarrased yourself any more
[02:00] <az4z3l> daniel_: He isn't embarrassing himself, he is just trying to get attention. Just ignore him
[02:00] <punto> nearst: doesn't update-manager do something else to the installation, like upgrade the apt sources and stuff?
[02:00] <rww> daniel_: they already got helped out, and don't feed the troll
[02:00] <rww> punto: sigh, just use -c instead of -d
[02:01] <daniel_> rww:i was trying to help sorry if i didnt
[02:01] <nearst> punto, doesnt matter. that the older told me :D
[02:01] <rww> manual updates using sources.lists changes and dist-upgrade aren't supported here, in this house we use update-manager or do-release-upgrade :P
[02:02] <punto> how broken is 14.04 anyway?
[02:02] <spearhead> it is still in alpha, expect it to break at least once a day
[02:03] <nearst> rww, wise "in this house" :P
[02:03] <Beldar> sigh, lol dist-upgrade is supported
[02:04] <Beldar> once and only time I would sigh, it's a mimic
[02:05] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys
[02:05] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know anything about raiding a system
[02:06] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, don't ask to ask, just ask your real question
[02:07] <punto> don't ask to ask, that's rude, first ask if it's ok to ask about asking quesions, some channels don't like that
[02:07] <rww> Beldar: it's not supported in here. as in, we do not support it. it's technically possible. it is not something we help with.
[02:07] <Bashing-om>   nearst: Did I miss your update.. unity all good now ?
[02:08] <Beldar> rww, Hmm, I would disagree all it is, is a in distro upgrade needed from the cli for kernels....etc
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i have a raid5 device hitsjiTMO was helping me but hes gone
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> i have 3 raid decides as one
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> trying to install ubuntu server
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> i made a /boot/efi but it labeled it as fat32
[02:08] <Psil0Cybin> and says i cannot do that
[02:08] <nearst> Bashing-om, yea. it working again. bugs in python3-pyopencl. just purge and reconfigure back xserver-org. and it working back. its kinda like Hybrid GPU problem
[02:09] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I recently got myself 3 WD 1tb blue drives and set up a raid10... it's as fast at sequential reads as raid0, and does't suffer the random write problems raid5 has
[02:09] <elky> punto: it's not rude to ask if it's ok. it's just a waste of time in a channel like this which is for people to ask question in.
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so what should i do i have 1TB blue drives
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> 3 of them
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> i think perhaps even the same ones you do
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> i tried to do it as raid 5
[02:09] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, what *exactly* does it say?
[02:10] <psusi> I didn't set mine up to boot in EFI mode, but it should work
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> psusi i have Raid5 device #125 196.1 MB K fat32 /boot/efi
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> raid5 decicde 17.1 gbg linux swap
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> 2.0 tb ext4
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> says it cannot find the O.S
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> and when i boot taking out the USB
[02:10] <Psil0Cybin> it says it cannot boot
[02:10] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ohh, the efi partition can't be on the raid
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> Ohhhhh!
[02:11] <psusi> though I'm actually surprised that the installer catches that
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> so psusi what do i do?
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> someone said
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> to make one the EFIBoot
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> one the Swap
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> one the Root
[02:11] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <psusi> either create a single stand alone partition for it on one disk, or I think you can create a separate partition on each disk and put them in a raid1
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so should i resinstall and start over?
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> or can i  change all this in the raid menu
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> that i am in now
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> I am in guided partition
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> configure software raid
[02:12] <psusi> you should be able to change it
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> etc but i already raided most of it
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> so what do i do now becasue from what I see, i have the 3 raided dedvices.
[02:12] <psusi> well, then you'll have to delete the raid and start the partitioning over
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> and the 3 hard drives seperate under.
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> so go to guided partition
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> and start over?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> can u help me with this psusi?
[02:13] <psusi> you need a total of 6 partitions... 2 on each drive, one small and in a raid1 for /boot/efi, and the other for the raid5
[02:13] <nearst> !raid
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so start over? or can i reraid the things I have now?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> so if i go to guided parttioning
[02:13] <psusi> back up and start the partitioning over
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> can i remove everything i did?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[02:13] <psusi> you want manual partitioning
[02:13] <vocx> !enter| Psil0Cybin
[02:14] <punto> elky: that's what I'm saying, since some channels don't like it when you ask if you can ask a question, first you have to ask if it's ok to ask about asking questions
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> i went to manual psusi and it gives me the same menu with all my partitons but i cannot remove them or do anything to them
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> nvm delete partition see it
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[02:14] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, less use of the enter key please ;)
[02:15] <elky> punto: yeah, don't call people rude for it though, it makes them sad and they go away instead of asking
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i remove all data from all raid devices, all partitions and start over? Sorry just double checking right now its Erasing data on RAID5 decide #125
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> it should remove the raid on top of the partitions?
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: it still shows all the raids and all the partitons
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot figure out how to remove everything that I have done.
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i earsing the data on raid5 device #126
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> but i dunno if this will do anything
[02:20] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, you need to remove the raid arrays, and then the partitions they are built on
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> or all i am doing is messing up everything
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> welll i tried to earase a raid, but it still shows up...
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> on that manual partition menu.
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> i am trying the second one
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> but it just says to erase the raid, it does not eliminate anything off the list
[02:20] <psusi> I believe "erase" writes zeros to the partition... no need to do that... you want to delete the raid
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> or do i need to delete the MD Tables now?
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> ah psusi so what do i do?
[02:21] <psusi> you have to remove the raid before you can remove the partitions.... then again, maybe it would just be easier to reboot and start at square one ;)
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> i removed two of the raids
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> it says one is currently in us though
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> what i do..
[02:22] <vocx> !enter | Psil0Cybin
[02:22] <Psil0Cybin> it wont let me delete
[02:22] <Psil0Cybin> md126_raid5
[02:22] <Psil0Cybin> says it is in use. psusi.
[02:22] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, reign in your add there a bit and resist hitting enter before you have finished your thought please.  Just reboot and start over...
[02:23] <Ash076> o7
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi.
[02:23] <Ash076> Long time wannabe, First time user!
[02:23] <Ash076> so...I have a few questions...
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> that is what i did psusi i hope this time it will not say that the raid is currently being used because i did start over to get back into that menu..i am hoping that perhaps it was jut being used for what i was doing by accident and now it might be able to be removed.
[02:24] <somsip> Ash076: ask one at a time, provide full details...
[02:25] <drobuddy> Hey guys. Anyone have experience troubleshooting usb0? When I was tethering before it worked out of the box, but I went to use it tonight (after ~2 mos) and it isnt comping up clean. `ip link show` shows the state as unknown...
[02:25] <Ash076> I am creating a pc in an ammo can, for the mental stimulation. I have a pretty low-end mobo and found out that it won't support 13.10 or 12.04. What is a good version of Ubuntu to try on older or low-end hardware? (maybe 10.10?)
[02:26] <kostkon> Ash076, lubuntu 12.04 or lubuntu 13.10. 10.10 is eol
[02:27] <drobuddy> I had to enable Wireless HotSpot to get on IRC just to ask as my S4 irc client wouldn't properly auth my nick :(
[02:27] <drobuddy> I really should get around to root my phone, lol.
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: once i remove all raids, and partitions get it back to normal
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> will you help me with raiding it, since i think we have the same hd.
[02:27] <Ash076> What does "eol" stand for?
[02:27] <drobuddy> eol = end of life
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> i have 3 of the 1.0 tb wb blue
[02:27] <spearhead> end of line
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> WB 1 TB Sata 3.5 Desktop Hard Drive
[02:28] <Ash076> ah. So there are versions named Lubuntu 12.4 & 13.10?
[02:29] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, create a 100 MB partition on all 3 drives and another partition with the rest... add the small partitions to a raid1, and the big ones to a raid5
[02:29] <Beldar> Ash076, the numbers are the releases, lubuntu is the desktop
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: sorry that is a big confusing I am new to this whole raiding thing :P could you perhaps help me step by step even though I am aware...it is very difficult for you to do this
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> I have the 3 partitoins now
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> removed all raid
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> so i am back to step 1.
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> not 3 partitions sorry 3 hard drives showing up!
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> 1.0 TB each on, each hard drive.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> so i click on the first one and it says create a new partiton or autoatically partition the free space.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> so i go to create a new partition
[02:31] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, this is pretty simple... on each of the 3 drives, do the same thing: create one 100 MB partition, and one partition using the rest of the space... then build a raid1 array using the small partitions, and a raid5 using the big partitions
[02:31] <Ash076> I just googled it. It was as I suspected. L stands for Lightweight.
[02:31] <Ash076> will it have the same "feel" as the 'heavier' versions?
[02:31] <Beldar> Ash076, Is the mother board pre pae kernel use? What is the exact reason for the no 12.04 or 13.10 support?
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: it asks Location for the new partition
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> Beginning or End
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> for the 200 MB on the first Drive.
[02:32] <psusi> beginning
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> 100mb**
[02:32] <drobuddy> Yup. I usually build my raid arrays with the /root at the beginning and build out from there.
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> so
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: first one it says for the partition 100mb, Use as:
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> what do I select, for Us as.
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> and Mount points
[02:33] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, use as raid of course... no mount point
[02:33] <Ash076> Beldar...I wish i knew. I'm thinking it may be the mobo, but I know that the mobo WILL run Opensuse 12.XX
[02:33] <drobuddy> Psil0Cybin: I'll sit quietly as psusi seems to have you covered. I'll only interject if needed :)
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: no raid option when it says us as: ext4 ext3 ext2 resiserFS btrfs jfs xfs fat16 fat 32
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> swap area
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> reserved bios boot area
[02:34] <Psil0Cybin> oh woops physical voume for raid
[02:34] <Psil0Cybin> !
[02:34] <Ash076> I just decided t ogo wih ubuntu bcz it's...Prettier and has a GUI that I interface better with.
[02:34] <Beldar> Ash076, What brought you to that conclusion, I guess is a better question.
[02:34] <buklau> im using ubuntu 12.04lts, and it keeps disconnecting me from my internet, im on a wireless connection, what could be the problem
[02:34] <drobuddy> buklau: What's your wifi card? Could be a variety of things...
 oh woops physical voume for raid ~ that's more like it !!
[02:34] <Psil0Cybin> bootable flag?
[02:34] <Psil0Cybin> leave it off for now?
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> sorry guys just scared i might mess up again on something very small :(
[02:35] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, hrm... on...
[02:35] <kop> Psil0Cybin, what are you trying to do ?
[02:35] <buklau> drobuddy, im not sure what my wifi card is, i will look it up right now
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: wont let me turn bootable flag on
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> just says off
[02:35] <drobuddy> k
[02:35] <psusi> poo... might be a bug in the installer... is there a reason you are trying to use UEFI?
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do psusi if it doesnt let me put the bootable flag on
[02:35] <hermis2014> hey
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: no
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> i just want all my 3 TB hard drives to be one
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> it seems like so much work :(
[02:36] <Ash076> Beldar; I installed opensuse 12.xx on it and it runs fine. I downloaded both Ubuntu 13.10 and it just won't get past the loading screen. It appears to be a graphics issue.
[02:36] <Ash076> On my high-end rig, 13.10 installs and runs effortlessly. (mind you, that has 6gb ram and a 650Ti card.)
[02:36] <hermis2014> There is a new coin out Mooncoin rate is 0.00000001
[02:36] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, lol.. then screw UEFI, just go back to using a single partition as a raid5 ;)
[02:36] <hermis2014> great profit opportunity
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi so how do i dooo that >.<
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> bah
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> i am stuck at the parttitions section
[02:36] <drobuddy> So, anyone have experience troubleshooting usb tethering? usb0 is shown as connected in systray, but when I do `ip link show` it shows the state as UNKNOWN... I've tried up/down and it says device unknown, even tho it's clearly  being recognized by Ubuntu 13.04
[02:36] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, like you did the first time but forget about setting up a /boot/efi
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> so i follow your inscrutions create the 2 partitons 100 mb, than continue folowing it?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> bah! so just leave /boot/efi out?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> and just have a root and swap?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do with the third parttiion?
[02:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yep... don't need a third partition
[02:37] <Beldar> Ash076, Are you familiar with a low graphic boot IE nomodeset or failsafe X  ?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> kk so i deleted all partitions again psusi sorry lets do this slowly.
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> so one 100mb, on each partition
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> and what else?
[02:38] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no 100mb... that's for ueif
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> oh woops
[02:38] <psusi> uefi rather
[02:38] <drobuddy> Psil0Cybin, you should have /boot, /root/, /swap, and have the rest allocated to everything else at the very least... Depending on your needs.
[02:38] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: Less 'stream of consciousness' and more 'one long line without pressing ENTER!'
[02:38] <psusi> drobuddy, don't need /boot
[02:38] <drobuddy> psusi: Oh, my bad.
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> so what would i do...than sorry guys I am sooo new to this raiding thing and very confused.....I am still at the second that I see ALL 3 hard drives, I need help partitioning.
[02:38] <hermis2014> coinedup.com MoonCoin rate at 0.00000001
[02:38] <drobuddy> I'll shut up in order to not confuse him
[02:38] <buklau> drobuddy, a ethernet controller is a wifi card right?
[02:38] <somsip> hermis2014: not here.
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: could you outline, exactly which partitions I need to create?
[02:39] <Beldar> !spam | hermis2014
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: since now i do not need to create the efi?
[02:39]  * wobblywu2 bangs there head on a desk
[02:39] <drobuddy> buklau: wlan0 should be your wireless card
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> 500mbs? each?
[02:39] <hermis2014> anyone interested?
[02:39] <buklau> drobuddy, k just a moment
[02:39] <drobuddy> eth0 would be the first NIC that is used for ethernet
[02:39] <somsip> !ot | hermis2014
[02:39] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, one partition at the end for swap... rest in the big partition, set both to be raid phsical volume
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> drobuddy: psusi so what would my partitions be? please guys help me out by saying hard drive one has 3 partitions being .......
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> hard drive two has....
[02:40] <Ash076> Beldar, Nope. anything you tell me will be new to me, and I can try it immediately.
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> I am jusg getting confused when it comes to raiding them and setting up how big each partition is
[02:40] <sixtustha5> hello all
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> and which partition does what
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> I am assuming the biggest partition on each drive is my root
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> next goes swap?
[02:40] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Ash076
[02:40] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yep, one big one for the *raid* that will be root, one small for the *raid* that will be swap
[02:41] <buklau> drobuddy, its not showing it in the lspci
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> so how do i split up a 1 TB hard drive into partitions for this psuisi
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> sorry I really need to just be spoon fed for this one aspect.
[02:41] <Beldar> Ash076, From the live boot hit f6 at first gui and tick nomodeset.
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> I never delt with this raid issues :P blah
[02:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, hell, for that matter you can skip the swap if you want
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: that just made me even more confused psusi sorry...
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> I am so lost :(
[02:41] <Ash076> Beldar, will that work if i don't have any card installed?
[02:41] <drobuddy> Psil0Cybin: No worries. I remember setting up my first array. Have you checked out: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#General_setup
[02:41] <drobuddy> ?
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> yea drobuddy i am sooo confused tho
[02:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, just make one big partition for the whole drive and set its usage to be raid ;)
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> becasue i followed all steps
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> and i coudnt even boot up the O.S!
[02:42] <drobuddy> It's a little verbose but gives a great explanation
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> this is my second time trying thats why i am a little frustrated.
[02:42] <drobuddy> Yeah, the first time is always the hardest ;)
[02:42] <Beldar> Ash076, Hmm, so you are not wanting a X IE desktop?
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> yea haa
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> so now i have the 3 TB hard drives.
[02:42] <drobuddy> It's still your first time until you get it to work
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> I would make one partition 500 Gb?
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> one 200GB
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[02:42] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no, 1tb
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> but6 then ill have 1 partition
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> on each hard drive...
[02:42] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, that's exactly what I just said
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> Okay! perfect then!
[02:42] <Ash076> Beldar, I don't know what that is. :(
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> let me do this one second
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> see this is why i was confused
[02:43] <buklau> drobuddy, is there another command in where i can find what kind of wifi card i have?
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> so I made the 1 TB partition
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> I use it as , /
[02:43] <drobuddy> buklau: Honestly, I don't know if there is a cmd... I always refer to my manufacturer's specs. Easy to find on Google...
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[02:43] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no, you use it as raid
[02:43] <drobuddy> For example, google "HP Pavilion {version} specs"
[02:43] <Beldar> Ash076, X is the gui desktop basically, not sure about no cards and having a desktop to be honest.
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi use as raid
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> but it will not let me turn off bootable flag
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> to on
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> it stays on OFF
[02:44] <Beldar> card*
[02:44] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, / will go on the *raid* device... which is built out of the partitions
[02:44] <buklau> drobuddy, alright ill look again, give me a min
[02:44] <drobuddy> With your manufacturer and version, respectively.
[02:44] <Ash076> Ah...WELL! I'll have t odig through my crap and Find one!
[02:44] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, don't worry about it
[02:44] <drobuddy> No worries. I'm not getting anywhere myself.
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> i have 1 TB in RAID
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do on the next hard drive. another 1 TB?
[02:44] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, all 3 exactly the same
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> ugh
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> the second partition is asking
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> Type for the new prtition
[02:45] <culpn8r> \o/
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> Primary or Logical?
[02:45] <wobblywu2> LOgical i guess
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> Use as ?
[02:46] <drobuddy> I'm going to idle until some of these convos quiet down. Hopefully then somone with a networking background can help me get my damn tethering working again... I doubt an update borked it, but I can't think of why else it's not recognized anymore :(
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> raid as well psusi it asks Use as?
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> after I hit logical for the next partition
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> raid?
[02:46] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ok ok ok... reboot and start over... the first thing you need to do is create the partition table... pick msdos, not gpt... and make the partitions primary when you get asked that
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: ....what.....turn off the computer and start over? completely?
[02:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, it sounds like you picked gpt on the first disk and msdos on the second.. you want them to be the same
[02:47] <Guest21932> is windows 8 any good ?
[02:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes.... start over from scratch... think of it as good practice ;)
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: I never picked anything that said MSDOS?
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay can you guide me through this though please......
[02:47] <drobuddy> Guest21932: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for those questions. This isn't the right place...
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> I have started over 10 times, and cannot get passed the raid.
[02:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, maybe the disk was already partitioned then... either way, you need to create a whole new msdos partition table
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> what psusi So what do i doooo...
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> I am now starting over...
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> I will remove all partitions
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> can you help me from that point on?!
[02:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I forget exactly what the option was... might be create disk label... will wipe out any existing partitions
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> do not see create disk label
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> started over
[02:49] <drobuddy> RAID used to be so much easier before they changed the install wizard...
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> already in attempting IPv6 auto config
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> re entering host name
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[02:49] <psusi> drobuddy, don't think it's been changed
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> and ill be back to the parttiion menu.
[02:49] <drobuddy> Albeit, I usually only raid CentOS machines...
[02:49] <drobuddy> I'm pretty sure it used to have an 'Advanced' section which simplified the process, but I may be thinking of a different distro..
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> Okay!
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> I am in the Partition Disks!
[02:50] <psusi> hell, wasn't there even a guided - use entire disks in raid option? ;)
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> it asks, Guided - Resize - Guided Use entire Disk- Guided Use the largest continous free space
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> guided - use entire disk and set up LVM
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> guided - use entire disk and set up encrutped LVM and manual
[02:50] <psusi> maybe not... manual then
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> okay manual.
[02:50] <demophobia> !wireless
[02:50] <drobuddy> I better bet quiet while you walk him through this.
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> i see all my parttions / Hard drives
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> I see it created again 3 parttiions in each with a raid.
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> i have to now remove it all again
[02:51] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there should be an option to create a new partition table or disk label on the disk
[02:51] <drobuddy> !tethering
[02:51] <drobuddy> Damn. I tried ;)
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: just guided partitoning configure software raid
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> configure the logical voume manager
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> configure encrypted volumes
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> configure ISCSI volumes
[02:51] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no, after you choose manual
[02:51] <demophobia> oh no D: need help after all
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i am in manual
[02:51] <buklau> drobuddy, i cant find anythign specific with a wifi card
[02:52] <drobuddy> From personal experience, I highly recommend avoiding encrypted volumes unless you really know what you're doing. They are a pain to recover if you're not careful
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> psusi:  I now see
[02:52] <demophobia> At https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear I click the link for WNA1100, but it -- http://sourceforge.net/projects/ath9...htc-installer/ -- leads to 'page not found' error
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> all 3 hard drives, no parttitons
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> within them all
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> 1 TB each hard drive.
[02:52] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, instead of add or remove a partition, you want new partition table / disk label
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[02:52] <VLanX> is there any chance with dd or anything else to read a file from and device and discard the data? In other words, I need to perform a true read benchmark on a remote NFS partition...
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot find that option
[02:52] <demophobia> oh, but that was last updated 2 years ago
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> i will keep looking
[02:52] <k_sze[work]> Which minor version of Python 3 brought back the u'' syntax? I forget. Was it 3.2?
[02:52] <demophobia> maybe i don't need to install anything after all ...
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> OH I SEE
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> new partition table
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> so i select YES
[02:52] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <buklau> drobuddy, i only see network card if that would work
[02:53] <drobuddy> buklau: PM me the manufacturer and version
[02:53] <drobuddy> buklau: Desktop or laptop?
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> so now it says psusi: it will remove all existing raid parttions
[02:53] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, *breathe*... take a few seconds to finish your thought before you whack that enter key.
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> on that hard drive I select YES
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> sorry psusi: been on this nonsense all day long dealing with this since 10 AM, I am exausted and just want the O.S to boot up so i can call it a night, but thanks lte me take a deep breath ahd continue
[02:53] <psusi> yep, and pick msdos
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: when I ceated the second parttion table, it never asks MSDOS or anything it just said it would remove and i selected yes
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> and it wrote down right away pri/log
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> beside the second 1 TB Free space.
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> on the second hard drive, is this normal?
[02:54]  * demophobia returned the previous wireless adapter and now has > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9030 NetGear, Inc. WNA1100 Wireless-N 150 [Atheros AR9271]
[02:54] <psusi> ok, I think it may have picked the type by default and that's fine
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[02:55] <psusi> now create your partition, primary, on all 3 disks, type set to raid physical volume
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi: so i follow you correctly
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> i will have 1 partiton, in each drive, correct?
[02:55] <Akiva-Mobile> what is the chat for unity developers? I have an idea I want to propose
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: when creating the second raid
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> it asks primary or logical?
[02:57] <drobuddy> Any wireless tethering gurus in here? Mine is acting up. `ip link show` shows usb0's state as UNKNOWN, albeit recognized by Saucy and it used to work ~2 months ago.
[02:58] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, same thing on all 3 drives: one big primary partition, usage: raid
[02:58] <drobuddy> When I say recognized, it shows connected in the systray, but not when I run ifconfig usb0 down, et al.
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> so now i have 3 hard drives, 1 partition each
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> all raid.
[02:58] <drobuddy> It shows the device as being unrecognized when I check via CLI
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> 1.0 TB each partition.
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> do i hit finish parttioning and write changes to disk?
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> or what do i do now.
[02:59] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there should be an option to set up raid... it *might* be after you finish partitioning and write changes to disk
[02:59] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, I doubt there is one open to anyone, and I doubt it would be considered.
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> there is psusi
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> on top Configure Software Riad
[03:00] <psusi> hit that one
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:00] <psusi> create a new raid5 array, and it will ask you what partitions to use.. check all 3
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> ERror informing the kernel about modifcations to partition /dev/sda1 device or resource busy
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> this mean lonux wont know about any chances to made to /dev/sda1 until yo9u reboot
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> is that fine?\
[03:00] <psusi> ugh.... no
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> ignore or cancel.
[03:01] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, This would have to be a go up the hierarchy sort of thing, there is a general new ubuntu idea post page, or there used to be anyway.
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> ugh psusi: so it is not working?
[03:01] <drobuddy> I'm really surprised I can't find anything on Google or insight in here on tethering... Apparently it's used less than I thought (which, I'm only trying to use it due to dire straits at the moment).
[03:01] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, can you pick the erase option on each partition now?
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> if i sleect a parttion
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> i can see Erase data on this partition
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> or
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> Delete the partition
[03:02] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, do that, and reboot, and you should run straight back to the create raid array step.. the 3 partitions should still be there
[03:02] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, pick erase, not delete
[03:02] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, on all 3 partitions
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> so erase each partition?
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:02] <Akiva-Mobile> Beldar: I'd be passing it over, see what they think, and then looking to write a patch myself. Its a good practical idea.
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> perfect
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> says
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> Data has not beeen erased
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> Error Erasing data
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> it wont let me erase.
[03:03] <psusi> blarg
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> is there no easier way
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> to remove all partitions and do this?
[03:04] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ok... hit alt and right arrow and see if you get to a command prompt
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> i do
[03:04] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, these 3 drives are the only ones in the system?  they were sda, sdb, and sdc?
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> that is correct
[03:05] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and they have nothing you want to keep on them?
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> that is correct
[03:05] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> it is a brand new system.
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> I just want to get Ubuntu Server O.S on it :'(
[03:05] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, Well good luck with that, this is support and not directly associated with canonical. ;)
[03:05] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, type dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count=1, then hit enter, then hit up, and change it to sdb and repeat, and again for sdc
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> okay one second
[03:06] <Akiva-Mobile> Beldar: I presume they still want contributors to linux
[03:06] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntu*
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> if/dev/zero
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> not found
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> bin/s
[03:06] <pero> if=
[03:06] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, if=/dev/zero
[03:07] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, None of this is within the channel topic is all, so not sure other than the web to look where to point you myself.
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> ran command for each one sba sdb sdc
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> sda, sdb ,sdc
[03:07] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and it said it wrote 1 MB?
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> 1+0 records in 1+0 records out
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> for each
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> it said
[03:07] <Akiva-Mobile> Beldar: #ubuntu-unity
[03:07] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, actually, you know what.. do it again, only change the 1M to 2M just to be sure
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[03:08] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, then reboot and you should be starting fresh with a clean slate
[03:08] <elky> Psil0Cybin: stop using enter every few words
[03:08] <Beldar> Akiva-Mobile, Cool, suggest away.
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> sorry, thank you psusi i am rebooting now, and will ask you once I get to the parttion menu again is that okay?
[03:08] <drobuddy> Damn, I have to disconnect before I get charged for overages.
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> I am just sooo lost when it comes to raid, systems....but I am slowly learning
[03:08] <drobuddy> I wish you all the best of luck with your respective endeavors.
[03:09] <drobuddy> Peace.
[03:09] <Psil0Cybin> ty drobuddy good night
[03:09] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, unfortunately, there are a few bugs you are running into when you don't do it right the first time and try to redo it
[03:09] <drobuddy> np, you too
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> hopefully i get this solved, with the help of psusi.
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: do u think i can solve this issue though now that we have done the following?
[03:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, should be smooth sailing now... create the 3 partitions again, type raid, primary, then move on to the raid step
[03:10] <VLanX> Actually copying from FN to a ramdisk I can max-out the 1gbps link, with 95% idle on the CPU  :3
[03:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, you did repeat the dd with 2M on all 3 drives right?
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> yes yes
[03:10] <psusi> smooth sailing now...
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> i will msg you after i made the 3 primary raid partitions
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi: up to speed. all 3 primary 1.0 TB partitions
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> seems like the thing u showed me fixed the bugs
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> now i am going to configure software raid.
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> now i am at create md device/delete md device/ finish
[03:14] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, now create the raid array, check all 3 partitions, and then you set the raid array ( md0 ) to be the root, ext4
[03:14] <psusi> and that should do it
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> so it is asking what kind of raid do i want to create
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> RAID0, raid1, raid5, raid6, raid10
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: sorry i amgoing to ask you slowly, i really need to be spoon fed at this point so i do not have to do this all over again :P
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> this is the one part i am worried about
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> the next few steps if that is okay with you, sorry I am super lost...so I would select Raid 5 correct?
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> at this step?
[03:16] <Eromej> Hello, is it normal my screen brightness lowers when I grab a window and snap it on the side? Ubuntu 12.04
[03:16] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, you wanted raid5, so yea
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> okay cool, so i type 3 active devices for the raid5 array obviously.
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> nbecause its 3 hard drives, correct?
[03:17] <psusi> yep, then pick the 3 partitions
[03:17] <benague> hey guys im new here just testing irc over ssh tunneling :))
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> is says
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> number of spare devices
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> 0
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[03:17] <psusi> yep
[03:17] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> okay now i select all the raid partitions so
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> sba1 sdb1 sdc1
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> continue?
[03:18] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I swear, I'm going to have to come hook up a wire to your pinky finger and shock you each time you hit enter too soon, yes, continue ;)
[03:18] <phunyguy> Psil0Cybin: if FloodBot1 is warning you, then maybe you should listen.
[03:18] <benague> +i
[03:18] <benague> wait lol nvm
[03:18] <demophobia> Please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2198003&p=12894509#post12894509 .
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: hahahahha, sorryy guys!! I promiss, i will amputate my finger after this ! I really am sorry!!
[03:19] <demophobia> Psil0Cybin, let your yes mean yes and your no mean no -- please don't promise such a thing. ._.
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay so i selected them all and now it took me back to the menu that says create md device, delete md dcevice or finish, i am assuming i hit finish since i just sleected all the partitons
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> corect?
[03:20] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, and then you should be back at the partitioning screen where you should have a new device: md0.. that's the raid.. set it to / and ext4 and continue
[03:20] <demophobia> goodnight
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> okay psusi: sorry i am back to that menu you just described ,it I see RAID5 Device #0 - 2.0 TB #1 2.0 TB and 5.12.0 B unusable
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> is that what i set to /
[03:21] <Guest19333> hai...anyone know about remote desktop connection setting
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> its only one partition in the raid device, and the 3 parttions bellow
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> how do i set it to
[03:22] <Psil0Cybin> "/" and ext4?
[03:22] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes, set that to use / as the mount point, and ext4 as the filesystem
[03:22] <Psil0Cybin> Okay
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> so it says ext4 and /
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> under the raid5 device.
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> So now do i hit finish partitoning and write changes to disk?
[03:23] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yes
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> okay *fingers crossed*
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> You have not selected any partitions for us as swap space
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> enabling swap space is recommended so that the system can make better use of physical memory
[03:23] <psusi> ignore
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> it just says Yes or No
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> to return to partioning menu
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> so no
[03:24] <psusi> do you want to go back?  hell no.. ramming speed!
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> writting changes to disk
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> *fingers crossed*
[03:24]  * Psil0Cybin heart is pumping hard
[03:24]  * Psil0Cybin is getting light headed 
[03:25] <Psil0Cybin> linux might just be my drug in life:S the ups and downs Woah
[03:25] <psusi> note that I'm pretty sure if you had just picked guided raid instead of manual it would have taken care of all of that for you ;)
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: there was no guided raid option...
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> other people tried to help me all day it was wierd
[03:26] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there was, you mentioned it earlier...
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> oh so maybe i am forgetting now
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> alright well its installing i really hope i do not run into the same issue with no os to boot
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> :P
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> if this woks i will run over to you and kiss you psusi.
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> psusi:
[03:34]  * psusi beats partx into submission and fixes it to correctly resize partitions on the fly, other than partition number 1...
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> error: no such disk grub rescue>
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> what is going on ......
[03:35] <smacktalk1> rdesktop isn't working quite right...telling me my userid and password are wrong
[03:35] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there should have been a step in the installer that asked you to pick where to install grub to and given a menu of choices.. you should have picked sda, sdb, and sdc
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> it just said
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> to add master grub record
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> and i said yes
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> if this was the only system on the hard drive
[03:35] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> and it was , so i thought it would work perfectly....
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> did i just mess it up again?
[03:36] <SiliconG> anyone out there do a ultra new stack and document it apache 2.4.7 and php 5.4x ?
[03:36] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, it didn't give you a choice of which drive(s) to install to?
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> nope
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> it just said it was Done
[03:36] <smacktalk1> does anyone know how to get rdesktop to work right?  what's the command line structure?
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> and it wanted to add the Master Grub Option since this was theo nly OS on the drive
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> and i selected Okay, it said to take out the USB
[03:36] <Psil0Cybin> and restart the computer,. so i did and now i got the grub rescue screen
[03:36] <psusi> bloody hell these bugs are annoying... which drive is your bios set to boot from?
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> i think from the hard drive
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> I am unsure it just says VOlume
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> when i cpick a medum
[03:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, which one?  you have 3
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> when i hit f12, it just says
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> Volume, Bios
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> when i have a USB it says
[03:37] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> Volume, USB, Bios
[03:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, you want bios
[03:37] <Psil0Cybin> it just gives me sorry Vlume, and Enter Setup
[03:38] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and if you have an option in your bios to disable uefi, do that..
[03:38] <Psil0Cybin> it just says Volume, and Enter Setup
[03:38] <Psil0Cybin> when I hit F12
[03:38] <psusi> enter setup
[03:38] <psusi> find an option to disable the frigging UEFI
[03:38] <Psil0Cybin> i hit Enter Setup, and it just shows a blackscreen.
[03:38] <Psil0Cybin> Nothing
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> i litterrly was at the office from 10 am, to almost 12 am
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> and i got nothing done, no os. nothing...
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[03:39] <psusi> you can't get into the bios?  try hitting delete as it boots up
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> one second let me try
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> i am in Bios
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> where would the EUFI be?
[03:40] <psusi> look around and see if there's an option to disable uefi, and/or set the boot device
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> I see
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> EUFI and Legacy
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> is what is selected as.
[03:40] <psusi> PICK LEGACY
[03:40] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <psusi> omg... damn uefi crap...
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> saved and exited
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> let me try again.....
[03:40] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: What is your end goal?
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> error
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> no such disk: grub rescue
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> Install Ubuntu OS Server on a Raided 3 hard drive sytem
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> been at it for 12 hours straight no luck
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> didnt help psusi ....sigh
[03:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, do you have the ubuntu desktop cd?
[03:41] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: FakeRaid, mdraid, or hardware RAID?
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> i do ! but i cannot get the ethernet cable working etither!
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> so the dekstop is useless.
[03:41] <psusi> Jordan_U, regular mdraid...
[03:42] <Psil0Cybin> someone helped me do that, but i am having all too many issues
[03:42] <Psil0Cybin> nothing wrosk
[03:42] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Try selecting a different drive at boot.
[03:42] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, oh... well if the ethernet doesn't work on the desktop cd, then it isn't going to work when you install either
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: first i want to get the server running so i can figure out driver issues
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> differnt drive at boot it just gives me two options
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> setup
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> and vlume
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> its not working
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> can i not fix this grub menu?
[03:43] <Psil0Cybin> i just installed it, how do i boot in?
[03:44] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: It depends on why you're getting a grub rescue shell. You can try: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell
[03:45] <Psil0Cybin> is there any other linux os
[03:45] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: You can also try using a Super GRUB2 Disk CD to boot your installed system.
[03:45] <Psil0Cybin> no CD drive.
[03:45] <Psil0Cybin> i cant figure this out
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> i usally have no problems
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> only with this raid, can i never get the OS to boot.
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> everything i do causes other problems
[03:46] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ok, at the grub rescue shell, type ls and tell me what it says
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> (hd0) (hd0, msdos1)
[03:46] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, damn... how about set?
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> prefix=(mduuid/a62d76fbf6a....
[03:47] <ariane5> i install on ubuntu java and flash and ubuntu is unstabile why ?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Then for some reasob your BIOS is only presenting one of your 3 drives to grub.
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> root=mduuid/a62d76fbf64e75...
[03:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ahh... yes, it looks like your bios is broken and only sees one drive
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> WeLL the guys who built the machine said they did a hard drive Raid!
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> and i should be able to install the OS as ONE partition
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> but that was NEVER the case.
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> I am sooooo confused....
[03:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, wait... I think you may be mixing up hardware raid and craptastic fakeraid
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> do i take this machine back to the store?
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> is this machine useless, i am confused
[03:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, boot the livecd, and run dmraid -s
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> so
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> boot a live cd ?
[03:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, or better yet, is there a raid option in the bios?
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> i think so psusi
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> that was
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> in the option
[03:48] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:48] <Guest19333> does anyone know about XRDP
[03:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ok, that's the craptastic fakeraid... go into the bios and blow that junk all away
[03:49] <Jordan_U> Psil0Cybin: Does "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" list any files?
[03:49] <psusi> Jordan_U, it won't.. the bios still thinks it's set up as a fakeraid, but he's reformatted it using mdadm
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> psusi:
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> under Peripherals
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> OnChip SATA TYPE
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> RAID
[03:50] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> OnChip STA CONTROLLER enabled.
[03:50] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, there should be something during boot that says press some key combo for raid setup... hit that, and delete the bloody fake raid array
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> it says onChop SATA Type: Raid
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> one second!
[03:50] <MartynKeigher> hey all
[03:50] <Jordan_U> psusi: Clearly there is a device visible with at least a partition table.
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> gives me
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> Delete LD Menu
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> Controller configuration LD VIew / LD Define
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> View Drive ASsignments
[03:51] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, then go back to that first setting, and change it from RAID to AHCI...
[03:51] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay so how do i remove all the software raid?
[03:51] <MartynKeigher>  got an upstart issue.... going through this.... http://wiki.manageditby.us/2013/08/10/dashing-upstart-script/
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> Delete LD Menu?
[03:51] <psusi> Jordan_U, yea.. because it sees the partition table on the first disk and thinks it is the partition table on the fakeraid array
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> or view
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> drive assignemnts?
[03:52] <MartynKeigher> looks good. its worked before... just thinking if i need any dependencies to make this run
[03:52] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, whatever you have to do in there to delete the raid array so they are all just plain, normal drives
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> so i just
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:52] <MartynKeigher> right now it says: root@DASHING01:/etc/init# sudo start thin   start: Unknown job: thin
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> i am just scared ill mess something up
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> i do not know what naything of this in the Raid Menu
[03:52] <Jordan_U> psusi: Which for RAID1 might not be a problem.
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> psusi:
[03:52] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, can't be any more messed up than it is now ;)
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> so CTRL + H
[03:53] <psusi> Jordan_U, yea.. but he's using raid5
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> says securly erase.
[03:53] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> so i erase all raid
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> psusi: Ahh, carry on then :)
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> like CTRL H on all drives?
[03:53] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no... you don't want to erase the whole drive... just delete the array
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> gives m no option for array
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> Ctrl H, CTRL V to view backup disk
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> exit and up and down
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> or Delete LD Menu
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> Controller Config
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> LD View.
[03:54] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, delete LD
[03:54] <psusi> delete delete delete... delete it all
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> CTRL -Y to delete tthe data in the disk
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> though
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> i see it has the raid
[03:54] <truba> hi guys
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> LD No 1 RAID 5 DR 3
[03:54] <MartynKeigher> do i need to install anything special that is not in ubuntu (out of the box) to get upstart to run conf files?
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> Capacity 1999.99
[03:54] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, it sees the *wrong* raid.. that's why you need to delete it
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> deleted
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> NO LD
[03:55] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> There is no any LD it says lol
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> now i reboot?
[03:55] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, good... now go back to that first option you found and change it from RAID to AHCI to turn that fake raid crap off
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> Its go time, One second ill keep u posted
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> on those  changes.
[03:56] <psusi> then you just might boot up ok... unless the bios erased the start of the disk, which I think it does... in which case, you have to reinstall ( again )
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: if that is the case
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> i should be on the right track tho
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> now that i did this stuff
[03:56] <truba> I have a problem in fresh installation of ubuntu 12.04 in laptop I am using lxde as a desktop environment to gain on RAM. however I am experiencing that my CPU fans are running at a high speed even when the cpu utilization is very low, I 've checked it using htop, sensors.
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> one second let merestart and change bios crap
[03:56] <psusi> yes, should be smooth sailing this time...
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> ty
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> it might have worked
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> i see Ubuntu gae :P
[03:57] <truba> I have even installed Nvidia propreity graphics card. everything is ohk but the cpu fans are runnning quite fast even the htop is showing that there is no cpu utilization.
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> clicked it to boot, lets see.
[03:57] <psusi> they set you up with a bios fake raid... so the bios was trying to use the drives in a raid, and there's a driver for Windows to take over and use that setup... but when you created the raid array in the Ubuntu installer like you did, that's pure software raid.. have to use one or the other, not both
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> so far just a black screen
[03:58] <truba> Has anyone experienced such problem ??
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so now i rebooted
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> it shows the Grub
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> but when i boot the O.S i just get a black screen
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> so is this what i would fix by reinstalling now?
[03:58] <psusi> hrm.. no...
[03:58] <psusi> you get the grub menu, and when you hit enter, it just stays black?
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> let me try again
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> yea  see grub
[03:59] <psusi> try the rescue mode option and give it some time
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> it shows me, the OS and the recovery, but it just stays black
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> OH WOOPS
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> IT WORKED
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> IT WORKED
[03:59] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: I booted in!! omfg.. sorry I am soooo happppy...now all i need to do is get my ethernet driver working LMAFO!
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i think you diserve a kiss.
[04:00] <Psil0Cybin> let me jut do a sudo shutdown -r now
[04:00] <Psil0Cybin> to double check its not a fluke
[04:00] <MartynKeigher> can someone help me with an upstart isse? trying to start a server ( a /etc/init/thin.conf file) and it says Unknown Service??
[04:01] <tsimpson> Psil0Cybin: please try and lay off the enter key
[04:01] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, do keep in mind that raid is no substitute for backups... it's for not having to restore from backup just because a drive fails...
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: yea ofcourse i am going to back up, this is a server for work i am setting up...for my boss. So we are going to get a few external hard drive hubs
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay i got the O.S t owork
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> i think i might relax tonight and get back to that ethernet driver later,unless psusi you are up for helping me with that too lmaooo
[04:03] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, my only advice on that is that if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not going to work ;)
[04:03] <Psil0Cybin> oh actually....
[04:03] <Psil0Cybin> someone said that i could try to reinstall the driver my self
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> that that would fix that issue, because they said it was configuring inproperly for that driver or something...does that make sense or actually i am screwed?
[04:04] <psusi> by and large, drivers are built into the kernel so it just works
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> because i need this computer for a server, if the driver is not working for the ethernet this is baaaaad news
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> for me actually
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> well
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> Ifconfig
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> does not even show the ethernet drive.
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> so i think the driver is just fully missing.
[04:04] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <psusi> yep, which is unusual, but if that's the case, you're SOL
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> SOL?
[04:05] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, might not hurt to check the output of lspci -vvvv and see if you can find the card there
[04:05] <psusi> SOL = Shit out of Luck ;)
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> actually.....
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> someone else said it would be easy to just copy it on a USB
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> and install it from the USB
[04:06] <phunyguy> !language
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> thats really bad....really....psusi i am kind of shocked
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> that is the only thing i can do.....nothing
[04:06] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, except that there's nothing to copy or install... as a general rule, Linux does not have third party drivers to install, they are just built into the kernel
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> oh no
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: im actually going to kill my self lollll jks, but my boss just bought this 800$ server
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> for us to use
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> so ur saying it will have no etho? lmao
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> and theres nadda i can do
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[04:07] <psusi> well, there *may* be hope... it is pretty darn unusual for there to be an ethernet controller that linux doesn't support
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> thats what i am thinking
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> maybe i just need to do alot of research
[04:07] <psusi> wifi on the other hand, sometimes aren't and there are ways to install the windows driver and use that
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> tonight
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> yea psuis well
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> the thing is i think i might have windows drivers for the etho
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> just this server doesnt even pick up the eto
[04:08] <Psil0Cybin> so im wondering if that might solve the problems
[04:08] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <Psil0Cybin> or if i can find a etho driver for my hardware, becasue it doesnt even turn on
[04:08] <psusi> what kind of card is it?
[04:08] <Psil0Cybin> how can i find out i forgot the command
[04:08] <psusi> read the specs for the hardware you bought, or try sudo lspci -v
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> okay Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co Ltd RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller rev 06
[04:09] <phunyguy> which version of Ubuntu? (I could scroll up, but meh)
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04 Server
[04:09] <phunyguy> which kernel?
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> 3.8.0-29 generic
[04:09] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, hrm... realtek is generally supported pretty well... you might try the desktop cd for 13.04 rather than 12.04
[04:09] <phunyguy> yeah... even with that, I can't get it working on my newest laptop.  Same deal, no ethernet.
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: well i used the 12.04
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> desktop iso and it worked fine
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> well it did not work at all actually
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> didnt work with the desktop either
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> not that i think about it, sorry for spamming again with the neter key it is just hard sometimes and i forget.
[04:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, so what does sudo ifconfig eth0 say?
[04:10] <phunyguy> You can try the mainline kernel to see if that is the issue.
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> error fetching interface information
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> device not found
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> woops
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> one sec
[04:10] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <phunyguy> /headdesk
[04:10] <dogmover> Psil0Cybin: is the network plugged into the card? And are the lights on at the port on the pc?
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Psil0Cybin: I Have been watching,, for driver situation see:https://code.google.com/p/r8168/, then also ubuntuforums, lots there about this driver - chili55 -.
[04:11] <Robr3rd> So I've got Ubuntu 13.04 (in GNOME Shell 3.8). I just installed wireless mini-PCIe card and I am trying to set it up to be a hotspot to channel my Internet from the Ethernet port to all my other devices. The wireless card works and the hotspot capabilities also work fine, however the Ethernet on the motherboard says "Connecting" but never actually completes the connection.
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> it says: Link ecap ethernet HWaddr 94:de:880:b1:46:94
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> Broadcast Multicast MTU:150 metric 1
[04:11] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, looks like it's working then...
[04:11] <Robr3rd> I have also disabled the wireless card and the Ethernet port behaves the same.
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> hmm psusi but no internet, but when i plug that etho into my laptop
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> i get internet.
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> no lights on the back
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> for the eth0
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> looks like its dead, in the machine type thing
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> before it wsa lighting up red in the back when i plugged it in, now it does not.
[04:12] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, what do you have it plugged into?
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> the eth0 wire into the computer and into my router.
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> *slot*&
[04:13] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and no light on either end?
[04:13] <Psil0Cybin> light on the router end, not the pc end.
[04:13] <Psil0Cybin> one sec lemme try something
[04:13] <Psil0Cybin> gunna try a diff wire.
[04:13] <Hydr0p0nX> is it possible to override the codecs under /proc/asound/card...  ?
[04:14] <Psil0Cybin> no luck, light stays on the router end, but does not stay on the machine end.
[04:14] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, does ifconfig say it is up?  or has any rx packets?
[04:15] <glitsj16> psusi: someone gave Psil0Cybin a link way earlier on .. it seems his network card is being wrongly recognised as needing the r8619 driver rather than the r8168 one .. http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[04:15] <Psil0Cybin> yes that is the one, I was ust confused I downloaded the driver
[04:15] <Psil0Cybin> onto a USB
[04:16] <psusi> the windows driver is useless
[04:16] <Psil0Cybin> but the guy also said I needed the essentials pack to install the driver, hmmm.
[04:18] <psusi> that link sounds a bit suspect and outdated to me
[04:18] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here ever install LXDE within Xubuntu?
[04:18] <glitsj16> psusi: hitsuijiTMO gave it to him, that's "the guy" ;)
[04:18] <ubuntuaddicted> i want to try another DE, maybe give LXDE a try..
[04:19] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: just ask the real question and someone will answer if they can
[04:19] <Psil0Cybin> yes :) that is who i was talking too but when i do the ifconfig, eth0 does not pop up when i ddid sudo ifconfig eth0 i got the RX packets and TX packets, everything is 0
[04:19] <ubuntuaddicted> somsip, i did
[04:19] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, try sudo dhclient eth0
[04:20] <Psil0Cybin> wow did that, looks like its processing its running the command and its at _
[04:20] <Psil0Cybin> but the light is on in the back eth0 card.
[04:22] <FireMedic> somsip: You can add lubuntu to your installation by doing sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[04:22] <Psil0Cybin> looks like it is just stuck on _ psusi like the only way to stop is to do CTRL+C and retype the command again, but the eth0 light in the back of the computer is glowing red, so it woke somthing up.
[04:22] <ubuntuaddicted> what's the main difference if I install lubuntu-desktop vs just lxde?
[04:22] <Psil0Cybin> but after i hit CTRL+C and tpye in ping, its unknown host again, so I see nothing actually got working :P
[04:22] <somsip> FireMedic: I'm not asking. ubuntuaddicted is.
[04:22] <Temper> is there an easy way to enable and configure a network?
[04:22] <FireMedic> sorry somsip
[04:22] <Temper> lshw says the network card is DISABLED
[04:22] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: you use the meta package lubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <somsip> FireMedic: np :)
[04:23] <glitsj16> ubuntuaddicted: lubuntu-desktop installs more apps to get the full DE, lxdr is a subset of that
[04:23] <ubuntuaddicted> i just want to try a different DE, i don't want all the apps that come along with lbuntu.
[04:23] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, looks like the card works fine, you just somehow didn't configure it when installing
[04:23] <sasha|> Hai
[04:23] <somsip> !info lxde
[04:23] <sasha|> Does anyone have a good tutorial about how to read smartctl data?
[04:23] <sasha|> Like, I'm totally stumped
[04:24] <psusi> sasha|, stumped how?
[04:24] <sasha|> well, I don't know what all the things mean
[04:24] <somsip> glitsj16: thanks for that - I assumed wrong
[04:24] <sasha|> so I was thinking there was a man page or something (but not a man page)
[04:24] <Temper> if i type ifup it does not work on eth2 since it is disabled in lshw.. how do i setup the network card?
[04:25] <psusi> sasha|, generally the only things you need be concerned with are the count of reallocated, pending, or offline_uncorrectable sectors
[04:25] <glitsj16> somsip: no problem, i do many times 'assume wrong that is)
[04:25] <sasha|>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   041   041   140    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 1265
[04:25] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, did you have the cable plugged in when installing?
[04:26] <psusi> sasha|, yep, dead driver
[04:26] <sasha|> well fuck me
[04:26] <sasha|> just installed the hard drive
[04:26] <psusi> sasha|, what kind of drive is it?
[04:26] <somsip> !language | sasha|
[04:26] <sasha|> sorry :/
[04:26] <sasha|> psusi Model Family:     Western Digital Caviar Blue Serial ATA, Device Model:     WDC WD5000AAKS-00YGA0
[04:27] <psusi> sasha|, time to RMA it I guess... I wouldn't have been surprised if it were a green drive
[04:27] <adars> hola
[04:27] <ubuntuaddicted> i just want to try another very very light weight DE to rule out a possible bug with XFCE. any suggestions?
[04:27] <sasha|> psusi thing is, I found it at the junk yard
[04:27] <sasha|> that's 'new' for me :P
[04:27] <psusi> sasha|, ahh, there's the reason it was in the junk yard ;)
[04:28] <sasha|> yeah I was thinking what on earth a 500gb hdd is doing here :P
[04:28] <sasha|> so, take it out?
[04:28] <psusi> sasha|, yep... I just picked up 3 1 TB WD blue drives for only $70 a pop on newegg...
[04:28] <truba> has anyone worked with cpufrequtils in ubuntu 12.04
[04:29] <Psil0Cybin> okay i am back from having my ciggie, hopefully now i will click enter less i did the sudo dhclient eth0 it get stuck on that command though and the only way to stop it is with CTRL+ C but while its in that process i can see the red light is on in theb ack of the computer
[04:29] <sasha|> psusi that's rather expensive imo, picked up a 1.5tb wd in ~12 ish for ~$70
[04:29] <sasha|> and now 3tb's are going for ~$130 where I live
[04:29] <psusi> sasha|, was it a green?
[04:29] <sasha|> yiss
[04:30] <sasha|> green and segate storage max or something
[04:30] <psusi> yea, they are cheaper and have less warranty, less performance, and tend to fail a lot.. I think I got the same drive about the same time
[04:30] <psusi> and now it's crapping out
[04:30] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: if i do ifconfig now although eth0 shows up instead of just lo before.
[04:30] <sasha|> tbh, my server is filled from drives from the junk yard
[04:30] <psusi> hence, the new blues
[04:31] <sasha|> the only drives I bought were a handful of 2tb and a 3tb over the years for storing movies and tv shows
[04:31] <sasha|> but I was wondering why my ubuntu seedbox was flaking out all the time :P
[04:31] <psusi> sasha|, I had a nice ssd I picked up along with the 1.5 tb green drive back in.. think I actually got it in '11... both of died now, so I got 3 new blues and put them in a raid10 so I don't have to deal with failure again
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: is there anything I can do now? that i can see the eth0 within ifconfig? is that a step closer?
[04:32] <sasha|> tldr; I should stop being a cheap ass
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i had the cable connected when installing, but it could not configure anything network wise.
[04:32] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, looks like the card is working, you just don't have networking set up properly so it doesn't know where your default route and dns servers are... this is set up automatically on desktop, but server you may need some manual configuration, though I thought the installer generally set it up for you automatically these days
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> I had to manually, do it.
[04:32] <MartynKeigher> can someone help me with an upstart isse? trying to start a server ( a /etc/init/thin.conf file) and it says Unknown Service??
[04:33] <MartynKeigher> looked through the debug but not seeing anything obviuos what could be wrong.
[04:33] <sasha|> literally, entire computer is form the junkyard, it must be ~8 or so years old. ran rtorrent and a bunch of torrenty things fine but then it started crashing with 400+ torrents, so I was wondering why
[04:33] <MartynKeigher> tried sudo service thin start'
[04:33] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: the installer did ask to configure it , but it said it could not be configured nad needed to be done manually, even though the eth cable works for otre machines and gthye get on the internet no problem the second they are connected
[04:33] <Psil0Cybin> so i was having specific problems with the server setup
[04:33] <MartynKeigher> tried 'sudo service thin start' and 'sudo start thin' still no luck....Unkown service?'
[04:34] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, What release are you using and do you want to be able to remove this new de if installed?
[04:34] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, sounds like you should be able to plug it in at work, and you just need to manually configre it by editing /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <MartynKeigher> i then did 'service --status all' and thin is NOT listed??
[04:34] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, i am using Xubuntu 12.04.3 and yes, i'd like to be able to remove it if it's not too much hassle.
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: I did plug it into my work router, and it did not work during the intall but your saying I should be able to edit those files now, that ifconfig states that eth0 is up?
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> just cannot connect to the internet
[04:35] <psusi> MartynKeigher, what the heck is "thin"?
[04:35] <rosentrotter> What version should I install if my PC specs are 3GB Ram and 2Ghz CPU
[04:35] <MartynKeigher> web service
[04:35] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, wouldn't be the end of the world if I could though as I have back ups of my / paritition I can restore to in case of emergency
[04:35] <rosentrotter> of Ubuntu
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> restarted the computer psusi and ifconfig still states eth0 is gone now
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> that i restarted.
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> dhclient only worked temporarly.
[04:36] <MartynKeigher> psusi, ....going through this.... http://wiki.manageditby.us/2013/08/10/dashing-upstart-script/
[04:36] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, i just want something really simple to be able to start steam and start a game, that's all I want another DE for.
[04:36] <MartynKeigher> done it several times in the past but just not working for me now
[04:36] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, Cool, you could try lubuntu, install via the terminal and copy and paste the apps installed to a text before hitting the yes to install. THen when you want in gone just use that list to remove.
[04:36] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yea... it doesn't show by default unless you name it or use -a, since it isn't configured... at work you should pick a static IP address and will need to set the IP address, netmask, gateway in /etc/network/interfaces, and the dns servers in /etc/resolve.conf
[04:36] <Psil0Cybin> okay I am inside /etc/network/interfaces and it only says auto lo iface lo inet loopback and that is it
[04:36] <Psil0Cybin> nothing about eth0.
[04:37] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, so sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop OR just sudo apt-get install lxde?
[04:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yea, you will need to add a stanza for eth0
[04:37] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i am at work now, i never left...would you be able to help me configure it now?
[04:37] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, Either will work I believe, depending on which you want.
[04:37] <MartynKeigher> you dont ask for much do ya Psil0Cybin ???
[04:37] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, wow... long day.. have you an IP addy assigned for it?
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> Would you like to stay home and spend more time with your family in 2014?
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> Need to pay off some of your Bills ? Or just need extra money?
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> I have been with this great company for 2 years now and the pay is great!
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> This is so easy and simple all you need is a computer and internet
[04:38] <iworkfromhomeinm> http://www.znzadteam.com/user/imakemoneyinmypjs/
[04:38] <FloodBot1> iworkfromhomeinm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: you do not even know aha :P the half of my day lol! but i do not have an IP Addy assigned for it, usually when you connect any eth0 at work you just get a dynamic ip or static i am unsure, atm...usually it never changes
[04:38] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, as I said I want the least amount of extra installed, i only want a simple DE to start steam and then a game.
[04:38] <Psil0Cybin> like the raspberry pi i have hooked up is 192.168.2.15 for days
[04:38] <Fou> has any one installed owncloud before on ubuntu?
[04:38] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, so probably lxde then
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: but do i need to do dhclient eth0
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> everytime i restart?
[04:39] <glitsj16> MartynKeigher: you can run an upstart check on the thin.conf by using "init-checkconf -f /path/to/thin.conf", but you need to do that prior to installing it in /etc/init/ and without sudo .. kind of an upstart parse check
[04:39] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, Sure both are light than xfce basically.
[04:39] <Beldar> lighter*
[04:39] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, generally you manually assign a static IP address for servers so they don't move around
[04:40] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay so should I wait till tomorrow get admin info from my boss for the router? set up a static IP and come back here and get you guys to help me?
[04:40] <MartynKeigher> thanks you glitsj16!!
[04:40] <Psil0Cybin> or could I get away with any ip for just today so I can update the system and go home?
[04:40] <MartynKeigher> will do it now
[04:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, man interfaces describes how to set up that file... there is no technical reason you *can't* just use dhcp, it's just usually easier to pick a static address so you can set up your firewall to forward ports and such
[04:41] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i am not configuring nginx today, I just want to update the system and have internet working for tmwro.
[04:41] <MartynKeigher> glitsj16, .... came back with: Failed to ask upstart to check conf file
[04:41] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, if you follow the example in man interfaces, it should be fairly simple to set it up for dhcp and then you just need to reboot or run ifup eth0, and it should come up just fine
[04:42] <Beldar> ubuntuaddicted, Keep this sight available in the playing around section, left panel, are lists of the whole desktop packages for various de's and releases for adding and removing. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: okay, so technically I need to go to that interfaces document and add mapping eth0,etc and it should work?
[04:42] <glitsj16> MartynKeigher: how did you run it exactly? and did you take it out of /etc/init?
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> or it gets more complucated and i need to read the whole manpage.
[04:42] <MartynKeigher> i typed the command just as u had it worte out and i did remove thin.conf from /etc/init before i ran it
[04:43] <MartynKeigher> and not as Root
[04:43] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yep, you just need an eth0 stanza in the interfaces file and if you set it to dhcp, a reboot or ifup eth0 should grab an address and work
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> alright haha ill try and do it now alone, and see what happens.
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> could I just add into the interfaces file
[04:44] <glitsj16> MartynKeigher: try without the -f switch maybe, the upstart cookbook doesn't mention that, the man for init-checkconf does ...
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> auto eth0 iface eth0 inet loopback?
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: ?
[04:44] <glitsj16> MartynKeigher: i was looking at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#init-checkconf
[04:44] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, but for a server so that you can set up the firewall to forward ports, you want a static IP... either manually configured in /etc/network/interfaces, or you can configure your DHCP server to map a static address to the servers' MAC address
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: so whaqt would be the command i would type in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:45] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, no loopback
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> just looking at the manpage I cannotfigure out what command, to corrolate to what you are saying ha
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> okay no loopback
[04:45] <rww> Psil0Cybin: auto eth0, then iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:46] <kevin_> necesito instalar, personalizar y configurar el kernel de linux en xubuntu!! ayuda???
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ifup eth0
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> just sticks at _
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> though so should I restart?
[04:46] <rww> ubottu: es | kevin_
[04:46] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, pastebin your interfaces file
[04:47] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ctrl-c if ifup hung
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713016/
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> without top #
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> becasue I am typing it out
[04:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, that should do it...
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> alright restarting, trying it out
[04:48] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, hrm... the ifup should have done it
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> oh...
[04:48] <ubuntuaddicted> Beldar, thanks, i am familar with psychocats website, it's awesome
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> my startup is hanging on waiting for network configuration
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> now psusi when I restarted.
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> the eth0 light in the back is red though..
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> okay it booted in, but no internet.
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig states eth0 is up but RX packets: 2
[04:51] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, and it has an IP address?
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> no ipl
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> maybe it could be because i am using IPv4?
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> becasue i only see inet6 addr: fe80::96de
[04:52] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, are you sure you have it plugged into a router that supports DHCP?
[04:52] <rww> having an fe80:: IPv6 address is normal
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: i am unsure, but i know that when ever anyone works anyone that plugs the etho wire into the computer, gets internet right away, no delay...nothing.
[04:53] <systemfish> hi, looking for a substitute to android. Even though I disabled synchronization, every "upload this and that" and anything remotely related.. my photos were uploaded to google's server exactly when I activated its "app store". I heard that there's something called ubuntu phone, no?
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> I tried it on my laptop thosands of times just now and the wire works fine
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> with fast internet speeds, it is just odd for this server.
[04:54] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, so sudo ifconfig eth0 shows no inet address?  try sudo ifup eth0?  and if that doesn't work, sudo ethclient eth0
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ifup eth0 says ifup interface eth0 already configured
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ethclient command not found
[04:56] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, pastebin sudo ifconfig eth0 again
[04:58] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713041/
[05:00] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, that's... strange... try sudo ifdown eth0, then ifup
[05:01] <nevyn> systemfish: openmoko
[05:01] <nevyn> if you can find hardware to run it?
[05:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay i did both those commands psusi but sudo ifup eth0, causes a hang.
[05:02] <Psil0Cybin> _
[05:02] <Psil0Cybin> ctrl+ C and ping www.google.ca causes unknown host.
[05:03] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: does thiat mean it is just not going to work ?
[05:03] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, does ifconfig show an inet address?
[05:04] <psusi> psusi, no, this is just a silly configuration problem
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> no :(
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> no inet address.
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> only inet under lo
[05:04] <psusi> do the ifup again and give it a bit
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> kk
[05:04] <|jemc|> hey folks, I have an external usb apple keyboard that maps the F1-12 keys to "media" keys (XF86Whatever) unless I am holding the Fn button, at which point they become F1-12 as God intended.  In OSX, I can swap this behavior with a user setting.  Anybody know if I can get Ubuntu to do the same for me?
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ifup eth0 already configured
[05:04] <DF3D2> having a video pixelation problem with VLC.......
[05:04] <Psil0Cybin> so do ifdown than ifup again?
[05:04] <nevyn> systemfish: arduphone?
[05:04] <psusi> yep
[05:05] <DF3D2> every once in awhile it randomly pixelates for a second
[05:05] <Psil0Cybin> alright running that command, I am going to let it hang for a bit.
[05:05] <DF3D2> ive tried al combos of no h/w acceleration / overlay
[05:05] <DF3D2> or hw acceleration, or hw acceleration + overlay
[05:06] <|jemc|> ah nevermind, I think I found it on ArchWiki
[05:06] <|jemc|> /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode
[05:07] <|jemc|> yeah, it works
[05:07] <|jemc|> thanks anyway, folks :)
 It just hangs up on that command, nothing no luck... i am scared to even do the ctrl + c and ifconfig command again to just not see a inet addr >.< lol
[05:07] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ctrl-c and run dhclient again and see if that gets an address
[05:08] <DF3D2> having a video pixelation problem with VLC.......cant seem to fix it
[05:08] <nevyn> systemfish: http://www.freetronics.com/products/arduphone-arduino-compatible-cellphone#.UszdKVPT6dg
[05:08] <Psil0Cybin> did the dhclient, again worked successfully....did ifconfig, No ip.
[05:08] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, what's ifconfig eth0 show now?
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> I think almost the same thing just RX packets 10, and TX packets dropped : 106 now.
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> could it be the inet6 addr?
[05:09] <Psil0Cybin> it would show the working inet addr as well?
[05:10] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, ip6 always assigns a link local address... you want an inet ( ip4 ) address
[05:10] <Beldar> systemfish, #ubuntu-touch
[05:10] <psusi> psusi, I thought earlier dhclient got an IP address?
[05:10] <Psil0Cybin> yea i am aware psusi i am just confused why it wont assign me an ip...when this works on everything else.
[05:10] <Psil0Cybin> no i never got an ip from dhclient
[05:10] <Psil0Cybin> my problem has been this eth0 card the whole time, or some driver is iffy
[05:11] <dogmover> a $15 ethernet card from walmart would go a long way toward troubleshooting this right now...
[05:11] <Psil0Cybin> well
[05:11] <Psil0Cybin> i already got a 15$ ethernet card
[05:11] <psusi> I don't think it's a driver problem... I think it's a your router is being stupid problem...
[05:11] <dogmover> or one from another machine
[05:11] <Psil0Cybin> when they built this machine 2 days ago, so.... i do not think this will solve the issue.
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: really my router?
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> but how come every other machine works? even my other linux box's, windows, mac
[05:12] <DF3D2> having a video pixelation problem with VLC.......cant seem to fix it
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> eith the same eth0 wire :S
[05:12] <dogmover> if you take that cable  and put it in another macine and reboot it, does it get an ip?
[05:12] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I'd pick and assign a static IP address
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> psusi: alright, how can I attempt to go about this?
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> do I need my router details?
[05:13] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, yea
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> okay, so i might need to wait for that tmwro my boss is out of the office..anything else i can attempt to troubleshoot this right now before I leave?
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> dogmover: yes if i put it in another machine it does.
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> it seems like it is this specific machine, that is not connecting to the internet or .... is misconfigured
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> or the driver.
[05:13] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, I'd say call it a night... I'm about to since it's after midnight
[05:13] <dogmover> get the gateway address and ip from another machine - turn that machine off - use it on this one
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> yea, i guess that is what i might do.
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> i could do that now tho dogmover .
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> should i try that before I leave?
[05:14] <dogmover> it's your day, brother ;)
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> okay you know what
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> i might call it a night
[05:14] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, you might get on another linux machine on the network and use ping6 to ping the ip6 address that it is auto configuring and make sure that works... if it does, the hardware is fine
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> hmmm
[05:15] <Psil0Cybin> i am on another machine right now linux machine
[05:15] <Psil0Cybin> how would I use ping6, in order to check...I think i always had problems with IPv6 though everywhere i went
[05:15] <Psil0Cybin> so I assumed, maybe this place has IPv4...thus that might be causing the issue
[05:16] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, sudo ping6 -I eth0 ip:addr:of:the:server
[05:16] <dogmover> I would almost bet you my car you are using IPv4 only
[05:16] <Psil0Cybin> because restarting the machine hangs on waiting for network config and than waiting up to 60 more seocnds for network conf
[05:16] <Psil0Cybin> probably. dogmover
[05:16] <Psil0Cybin> that would make sense.
[05:16] <psusi> dogmover, ip6 always auto configures a link local address... something seems to be screwing up the ip4 configuration, so an IP 6 ping would at least make sure the hardware works fine without the need for a proper ip4 config
[05:17] <dogmover> try the ping like psusi said - that would be instructive
[05:18] <dogmover> psusi: i agree completely
[05:22] <truba> I have installed lxde using sudo apt-get install lxde
[05:22] <truba> its working quite ohk for now
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> alright
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> no luck, cannot figure it out the ip to default gateway pinging 192.168.1.1
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> does not work with that command you said
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> keep getting unknown host but the internet works through the ethernet
 should I just call it a night? since it seems like it cannot be fixed atm?
[05:24] <Psil0Cybin> and you are hitting the hay shortly, without you i would be lost.
[05:24] <Psil0Cybin> aha
[05:25] <steven__> Arch > Ubuntu
[05:25] <steven__> trololololol!
[05:25] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, that is an IP4 address, you need to use the ip6 address
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> can I not get an ip to work through IP4, I do not think IPv6 ever works for me...
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> I have it disabled on my XSubuntu machine
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> Xubuntu*
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> how do i find out my ipv6 ip once I connect the wire ? through the Connection Information on XUbuntu?
[05:27] <dogmover> ifconfig
[05:28] <Fou> has anyone install and configured owncloud corectly ?
[05:28] <SchrodingersScat> !polls | Fou
[05:28] <hipitihop> I get constant trace in my dmesg like "[16875.663868] input input12: event field not found" how can I found out what is causing this and supress it as it fills up my dmesg making | tail useless
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> when i connect the wire
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> i only get IPv6
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> i mean IPv4.
[05:28] <SchrodingersScat> !anyone
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> k one second
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> look at this pastebin
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> this is ifconfig with the wire in, my other machine. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713123/
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> sory guys got disconnected
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> this is ifconfig with the wire in, my other machine. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713123/
[05:30] <Fou> im not asking for there opion im asking has anyone set that up because i need help
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> dogmover: does that explain anything?
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> could I made that one my static IP?
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> 10.244.11.100 ?
[05:32] <dogmover> yes - if you turn it off - but it would be better to think of an address not being used.
[05:32] <dogmover> how many machines are there?
[05:33] <Psil0Cybin> 3
[05:33] <smacktalk1> is there a vmware powercli equivalent for ubuntu?
[05:33] <dogmover> try 10.244.11.137 - I'm just guessing it is not being used
[05:33] <dogmover> do you know the gateway?
[05:33] <Psil0Cybin> okay, so how can I set that as a staatic ip?
[05:33] <Psil0Cybin> it said default route
[05:33] <Psil0Cybin> 10.244.11.1
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> and primary dns are the same
[05:34] <dogmover> Psil0Cybin: look at this  - http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> but when I enter that address in my internet bar
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> i get nothing only from 192.168.1.1
[05:34] <dogmover> dns won't matter since you are only using ip
[05:35] <dogmover> you get nothing because there is no web service at that iip
[05:35] <dogmover> ip, rather
[05:35] <dogmover> so you have your gateway, 10.244.11.1, and an IP address - try putting them in.
[05:36] <Daemoen> is it possible to tell preseed that you want to manually partition ?
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> i tried setting inet dynamic
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> for eth0 and i am getting fails by virtual network devices
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> and configure network devices
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> i am going to have to undo that...
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> i do not think anything will work the way this is going...wth
[05:37] <Fou> well my issue right now is that ii have installed owncloud but i can not externaly access it and when i port forward to the ip  for the server i only get the apache2 page. I need to move the owncloud on that directory or change the settings for it
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> Fou:
[05:38] <Psil0Cybin> is your own cloud in /usr/share/nginx/www ?
[05:38] <Psil0Cybin> I use Nginx, I do not like Apache.
[05:38] <Fou> well in the guys thatat ws there they used apache
[05:39] <Vp7_> not able to install ubuntu sdk in Ubuntu 12.04.. I would like to develop applications for Ubuntu moblie.
[05:39] <Fou> i would think it would be in the /var/www directory
[05:40] <Psil0Cybin> what was the other command for
[05:40] <Psil0Cybin> blah the eth0 before i changed it to dynamic
[05:40] <Psil0Cybin> dh something
[05:45] <Fou> thats where the apachie is but he directory for the cloud is is /var/www/owncloud
[05:48] <zammit> question: do I have to have a graphics card to install fglrx? i'm attempting to build a deb that (i think) requires some headers. this is on an ubuntu server, so CLI only.
[05:49] <zammit> hey channel log, my connection was reset minutes ago, and i already came back, thx :S
[05:53] <Psil0Cybin> I set up a static IP address, but still no luck getting any internet...
[05:53] <Psil0Cybin> i added in all the ip mask and gateway, still nadda....hmmm
[05:54] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, can you ping the gateway?
[05:54] <Psil0Cybin> pinging buytget Destination Host unreachable.
[05:54] <Psil0Cybin> maybe i have the wrong gateway but that was what was listed when i pluged the eth0 into another computer
[05:54] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, did you ping the IP or hostname?
[05:55] <Psil0Cybin> K
[05:55] <Psil0Cybin> pinging my IP
[05:55] <Psil0Cybin> works
[05:55] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot ping anything else.
[05:55] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:55] <Psil0Cybin> if I ping 10.244.11.100, it pings my machine, but i seem to not have internet :(
[05:55] <Psil0Cybin> but the gateway does not ping.
[05:55] <Psil0Cybin> maybe its my router?
[05:56] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, please pastebin the output of `route`
[05:56] <truba> guys what should be the average cpu temperature in ubuntu running i3 processor which firefox open  ?
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713202/
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> sorry it is not formatted zammit typing it by hand
[05:57] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, don't worry about format, i'll read it
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> i was not able to get dhcp working
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> with the eth0 cable, so at least now with a static ip
[05:57] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, please pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> it assigned me something
[05:58] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, with a static IP, it shouldn't assign you anything.
[05:58] <Psil0Cybin> zammit:
[05:58] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713205/
[05:59] <Psil0Cybin> well not assigned but before dhcp was not able to even get an IP
[05:59] <Psil0Cybin> so finally i have one with a static, but no internet :S
[05:59] <Psil0Cybin> i can ping my self, so that is fine
[05:59] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot ping the default gateway or anything
[05:59] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, hmm maybe i'm not reading this right, but your route suggests an interface called "ETHO" - with a cap "o" not a zero.
[06:00] <Psil0Cybin> no no its a 0
[06:00] <Psil0Cybin> my bad
[06:00] <Psil0Cybin> seems like maybe my gateway is wrong or something
[06:00] <Psil0Cybin> or would i not be able to ping my self?
[06:00] <stoyansbg> Psil0Cybin, try running "ethtool eth0"
[06:00] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, do you have any other hosts on the 10.244.11.0/16 network?
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> not at the moment
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> from what i know
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> just my laptop on wifi
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> but on a diff ip.
[06:01] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> ethtool not installed
[06:01] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, what's the IP of the wifi laptop?
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> 192.168.1.178 but it is on Wifi
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> the eth0 uses a different IP set.
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[06:02] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, but you said you could ping the laptop?
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> no no not ping the laptop
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> ping my own desktop
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> one second let me try something here.
[06:02] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, so you can ping the loopback?
[06:02] <zammit> well that's a start...
[06:03] <thom_r> hello all
[06:05] <sonictwin> I'm trying to use grdesktop to connect to a win7 machine running tightVNC, is this possible?
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> no luck
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> plugged it into another router
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> oin the office, got a green light from the eth0 wire but no internet, could not ping
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps it was because it was still set on dhcp? maybe static with a diff config
[06:10] <Psil0Cybin> like is the green ligt in the back a good sign?
[06:10] <Beldar> truba, No real answer different computers and hardware will not be the same, to many variables, to answer.
[06:11] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, please pastebin the result of `ifconfig eth0`
[06:11] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig eth0 shows everything just no inet address.
[06:11] <Beldar> truba, I would look up max temps for your computer
[06:11] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, did you try a `sudo service networking restart` ?
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> no i restarted the whole machine each time
[06:12] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, assuming you're on a version that supports `service`... no idea when that came to fruition.
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> on one router, the lught grows green in the back
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> but on the main router, that works with the eth0 on my laptop
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> it glows red
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> both do not give an ip :S
[06:12] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, well it cannot be a problem with anything except for the specific machine b/c the inet addr is not populated
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> i know
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> it is wierd tho
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps i need to get it to work as a static ip only?
[06:13] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, yes, static IP first.
[06:13] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, but that is what you pastebinned?
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot pastebin becasue this machine, has no internet...i have to type it all out by hand and it gets messy
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> trying it on this machine, the light glows green
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> going to try a static one second
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> different router there are two maybe one was not forwarded properly
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> for the server
[06:15] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <truba> Psil0Cybin: what is your problem actually ?? I m a networking guy actually
[06:17] <Psil0Cybin> i put in the static ip, the light glows green in the back but now, when i ping i cannot get it to ping anything
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> truba: i am installing ubuntu server, i had a lazy eth0 card...the problem is the eth0 wire i am using on other laptops gives every computer an ip and works fine, but with this specific server...
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot get the internet working or anything for that matter, when it comes to a connection
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> I just tried a static ip, but still cannot ping google.
[06:18] <delt> hello
[06:18] <delt> so besides the lowlatency kernel and extra software pre-installed, what are the differences between xubuntu and ubuntu-studio?
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig states that i now have an ip finally, because i picked a static one
[06:18] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, please try to ping only IP addresses and not hostnames, no need to bring DNS into this.
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot accesss the internet :S even tho the light glows green in the back
[06:19]  * Beldar wishes people would stop holding the hand of this user, they have been on for two days, getting bat warnings continuously for flooding, and users asking them to tone down their attitude.
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot even ping my gateway :S
[06:20] <truba> Psil0Cybin, check your arp table , do u get the mac address of your gateway ?
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> how do i do that
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> i am semi new to linux, but have figured out how to raid the system today sigh and other things
[06:20] <truba> just run arp
[06:21] <Psil0Cybin> arp nothing
[06:21] <Psil0Cybin> arp = gets nothing
[06:21] <Psil0Cybin> even if i set interfaces to dhcp
[06:21] <Psil0Cybin> i still get no ip, nothing
[06:21] <Psil0Cybin> even tho the light glows green in the eth0 card.
[06:22] <truba> Psil0Cybin run /proc/net/arp
[06:22] <truba> first ping your gateway and then run " cat /proc/net/arp "
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> command not found
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> pinging gateway
[06:22] <truba> what do u see ?
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> Host unreachable
[06:22] <truba> now run the command
[06:23] <truba> do u see the mac address of your gateway ?
[06:23] <Psil0Cybin> IP address HW type Flags HW Address MASK Device
[06:23] <Psil0Cybin> all blank
[06:23] <Psil0Cybin> just says those words.
[06:24] <truba> so stop playing with IPs or at the layer 3 now , first get your layer 2 working
[06:24] <Psil0Cybin> truba: so what do i do? i am very lost atm
[06:25] <dogmover> truba:   he installed with no network available. I was going to suggest he try booting from the USB he installed with, now that he has a network cable plugged in, see if it brings the card up.
[06:25] <Psil0Cybin> but the usb i installed with is just the server USB
[06:25] <Psil0Cybin> I do not have a desktop iso handy
[06:26] <truba> do u see a card Psil0Cybin  run ifconfig
[06:26] <dogmover> but you booted with the usb to install - the software that is written to it is just called "live cd"
[06:26] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig displays eth0
[06:26] <Psil0Cybin> and lo
[06:26] <dogmover> but do what truba said
[06:26] <Psil0Cybin> okay so what should i do next dogmover and truba ?
[06:27] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig displays my eth0 card and something called lo
[06:27] <truba> pase the output of ifconfig to paste.ubuntu.coom
[06:27] <gdeeble> So i've run into a problem. I can't get suricata to remove from my installation since I don't use it. It keeps failing whether I try to remove it or re-install it to make sure it's got everything there. anyone have any tips to getting it removed?
[06:27] <Daemoen> when you do the server install, does it normally include the standard task selection no matter which boxes you choose ?
[06:27] <Psil0Cybin> truba
[06:28] <Psil0Cybin> how do i paste the output if i have no internet
[06:28] <Psil0Cybin> do i keep typing out the output each time
[06:28] <Daemoen> ( for the purpose of preseeding ).  I *only* select ssh-server, so not sure if i should include the standard task
[06:28] <truba> no its ohk.. do u see the static ip next to eth0 when u run ifconfig ?
[06:28] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[06:29] <Psil0Cybin> i see the static ip it just shows inet addr 192.168.1.128
[06:29] <Psil0Cybin> which is what i set it to.
[06:29] <truba> ohk
[06:29] <Psil0Cybin> so it shows up in ifconfig fine
[06:29] <Psil0Cybin> it jut doesnt actually get any packets...
[06:29] <truba> what does route -n say ?
[06:30] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, why did you set it to 192.168.1.128 when you're on a 10.244.11.0/16 ?
[06:30] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713326/
[06:30] <Psil0Cybin> zammit: that was the router that gave me red light
[06:31] <Psil0Cybin> tried another router, gave me green light, different ip
[06:31] <Temper> i am trying to mount an NFS export but the mount command just hangs..
[06:31] <Beldar> gdeeble, sudo apt-get purge suricata
[06:31] <Psil0Cybin> truba: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713326/
[06:31] <Psil0Cybin> although i put my gateway as 192.168.1.1
[06:31] <Psil0Cybin> it shows up as 192.168.1.0 :S
[06:31] <truba> no gateway setting is correct
[06:31] <Temper> RPC: AUTH_GSS upcall timed out. is in /var/log/syslog
[06:31] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, your gateway shows up correctly
[06:31] <IdleOne> Psil0Cybin: less ENTER more content. Not going to ask you again.
[06:32] <truba> this machine is connected to Cisco switch ?
[06:32] <Psil0Cybin> nope, just to a router.
[06:32] <truba> so it will never work
[06:32] <gdeeble> Beldar it says it's in a very bad state and have to reinstall but tried it and it fails.
[06:32] <Psil0Cybin> if my gateway shows up correctly, and the et0 wire works on every computer and every other machine gets internet, how can i solve this issue?
[06:32] <Temper> anyone know why mounting nfs would just hang?
[06:32] <Psil0Cybin> does this mean somewhere my computer is getting the information wrong?
[06:32] <truba> which router are you using ?
[06:32] <Psil0Cybin> or does it mean thatthe et0 card is broken
[06:33] <Beldar> gdeeble, I have never used it, do you have any held packages?
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> the same router that works on every mac, linux, machine i tried.
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> i used the same router on a raspberry pi and it worked
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> fine
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> seems like my more expensive machine does not wwant to work with the eth0
[06:33] <gdeeble> Beldar, i'm not the greatest with linux still, held packages?
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> but a rasp pi can
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> so i think all router settings are fine if my raspberry pi can get an ip from the eth0
[06:33] <Psil0Cybin> it just seems to be this server, I just paid 800$ for.
[06:34] <truba> Psil0Cybin: are u using a rollover cable to connect to the router or just the normal Lan cable ?
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> normal lan cable
[06:34] <Beldar> gdeeble, If you run a apt update upgrade or the reload do you see held packages in the terminal?
[06:34] <truba> what is the company of the router ?
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> truba: nothing crazy i sware, the same router worked on a raspberry pi....to demonstate nginx, and it worked fine. the company of the router is Tenda
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> but i also just tried a linksys
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> and nothing works
[06:34] <Psil0Cybin> but both routers work fine with my other PC and laptop
[06:35] <Psil0Cybin> linksys gives my eth0 card red light
[06:35] <Myrtti> Psil0Cybin: can you please, PLEASE use LESS enter
[06:35] <HDRDanny> ^
[06:35] <gdeeble> Beldar, no.
[06:35] <Psil0Cybin> the other wifi router, gives it a green light so i thought the green light might be a better way to finally get it working, so it might be a sign i am confused though why it works with everything else but not this one machine
[06:35] <gdeeble> Let me get a pastebin of what's going on.
[06:35] <Mace268> do i need to restart my de if xorg server was updated?
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> k guys
[06:36] <Beldar> gdeeble, So you are getting some broken info from somewhere, can you give anymore specifics, if you do this reload of it or purge from the terminal?
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> i am just going to call it a night
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot do this anymore its been 12 hrs non stop and i cannot get anything working
[06:37] <Psil0Cybin> ill try again tomorrow guys
[06:37] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, i think you're making this more complex than it has to be, remove the variables, and take it one step at a time and most of all, calm down!
[06:37] <Beldar> gdeeble, YOu might just run both commands and pastebin all of the info.
[06:38] <Psil0Cybin> zammit: i have man, everyones telling me different steps and nothing works thats why im pannicking, i tried doing a simple dhcp that works on EVERY machine, that did not work....finally i got the eth0 to display but Now that i finally have a static IP
[06:38] <Psil0Cybin> that would not work
[06:38] <gdeeble> Beldar, http://pastebin.com/vk3z0XzH that's what it gives me when i run purge
[06:38] <Psil0Cybin> if i set the static ip on my xubuntu laptop and run the eth0 wire
[06:38] <Psil0Cybin> everything works
[06:38] <Psil0Cybin> i am actually so lost.
[06:38] <HDRDanny> Psil0Cybin, please stop using enter
[06:38] <HDRDanny> after
[06:38] <HDRDanny> every
[06:38] <HDRDanny> word?
[06:39] <gdeeble> Beldar, This started with me updating the server via CLI and it showed these items not being needed and i tried auto remove and started seeing these problems.
[06:39] <HDRDanny> Please? Collect your thoughts and put them in one or two strings, please.
[06:39] <Psil0Cybin> alright sorry I just need sometime out, and a night out for my self. Sorry for annoying everyone I will take a break tonight.
[06:39] <jeffrey_f> Psil0Cybin: what is the internal IP of the router and what is the IP assigned to your system
[06:39] <HDRDanny> You're not being annoying, it's just you're spamming up the chat.
[06:39] <Beldar> gdeeble, Is this a version of this app from the ubuntu repos or a ppa?
[06:39] <Psil0Cybin> default gateway = 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 address i am trying to setup : 192.168.1.128
[06:40] <Daemoen> Psil0Cybin: what is the problem youre dealing with ?
[06:40] <truba> PsilCybin : when u tested it in other machines, did u use the same calbe that u r using now ?
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> yup
[06:40] <HDRDanny> Looks like he's trying to set a static IP.
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> and it works
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> truba: works on every other machine.
[06:40] <truba> Psil0Cybin : with the same cable rite ?
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> yup
[06:40] <gdeeble> Beldar, Unsure. I didn't know it was installed, till it popped up. I am running ebox on the server and after reading it seemed like it might be tied to zentyal-ips, but I tried to reinstall and remove it and got no where there either.
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> and even dhcp works on other machines, if i do not want to set a static.
[06:40] <jeffrey_f> Psil0Cybin: What is the IP to get to the router setup if you were to make any changes to the router (we're not, just asking)
[06:41] <Psil0Cybin> 192.168.1.1
[06:41] <Daemoen> Psil0Cybin: just for shits/grins, are you sure youre running a /24 cidr to begin with ?
[06:41] <truba> you are setting up everything, I think there is something wrong with your ethernet card..
[06:41] <Psil0Cybin> cidr?
[06:41] <Daemoen> id laugh if youre running say a /25 or /26 for instance
[06:41] <Psil0Cybin> truba....that is not good.
[06:41] <Psil0Cybin> at all.
[06:42] <zammit> Psil0Cybin, yea 255.255.255.0 = /24
[06:42] <truba> Psil0Cybin : can you run tcpdump ?
[06:42] <Daemoen> Psil0Cybin: when you use dhcp, are you getting back 255.255.255.0 ?
[06:42] <Daemoen> ( for your netmask )
[06:42] <Psil0Cybin> when i use dhcp
[06:42] <Beldar> gdeeble, what does this command give you. cat /etc/issue
[06:42] <Psil0Cybin> i get no IP at all.
[06:42] <Psil0Cybin> dhcp gives me no ip.
[06:42] <gdeeble> Beldar:
[06:42] <gdeeble> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[06:42] <zammit> ok, so nobody is going to answer my fglrx question? :( nobody is in the mood for display drivers tonight i guess!
[06:43] <gdeeble> Sorry about the double post
[06:43] <Daemoen> Psil0Cybin: ethtool eth0, are you seeing link established?
[06:43] <truba> zammit : I am facing a problem with graphics card
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> ethtool
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> is currently not installed
[06:43] <Beldar> Daemoen, I can appreciate the theme of your posts however swearing is not allowed here.
[06:43] <truba> tcpdump must be installed
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> tcpdump no suitable devices
[06:43] <Daemoen> Beldar: sorry, wouldnt have considered that swearing in most cases, okies though.
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> do i run tcpdump eth0
[06:44] <Daemoen> Psil0Cybin: ifconfig
[06:44] <truba> yaa "sudo tcpdump eth0"
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> tcpdump syntax error
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> "sudo tcpdump eth0"
[06:44] <Daemoen> sudo tcpdump -i eth0
[06:44] <Daemoen> missing -i for interface
[06:44] <HDRDanny> We could start up #NaughtyUbuntu
[06:44] <HDRDanny> :D
[06:44] <Beldar> gdeeble, Not sure, that app is not installed in my desktop version of 12.04, looking at it makes me think you installed it. I would look up using force to remove.
[06:45] <pipolo> coucou
[06:45] <Daemoen> HDRDanny: umm..... yeah.... dont get me started on #badbuntu
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> listening on eth0 link type en10mb ethernet capture size 65536 bytes
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> shows an ip from 192.168.1.1.43651
[06:45] <somsip> !fr | pipolo
[06:45] <gdeeble> Beldar: I'm thinking it's part of the ebox-ips package that was installed.
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> it shows i think UDP packets or something length 300
[06:45] <truba> ohk what else ?
[06:45] <yogui> bbbn,,vcx,,,njhgggggh
[06:45] <gdeeble> So force uninstall it?
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> truba
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> just keeps going down
[06:45] <Daemoen> Psil0Cybin: hang on, back up a bit.  en10mb... is this set to autonegotiate or specified duplex ?
[06:46] <Psil0Cybin> igmp query v2
[06:46] <Psil0Cybin> no clue
[06:46] <truba> Psil0Cybin just ping and open tcpdump in other terminal
[06:46] <yogui> noobee
[06:46] <Psil0Cybin> on another machine truba
[06:46] <Psil0Cybin> this is ubuntu server
[06:46] <somsip> yogui: do you have a support question?
[06:46] <Psil0Cybin> only 1 terminal
[06:46] <Beldar> gdeeble, Just a guess, I would look on the web, I have never had to do any force, but I see people using it.
[06:46] <Psil0Cybin> well ur dump said
[06:46] <Psil0Cybin> 25 packets captured 25 packets recieved by filter
[06:46] <Daemoen> Psil0Cybin: ctrl-alt-f*
[06:47] <truba> ohk so that means u r actually receiving some response from the router
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> ctrl + alt + f
[06:47] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: you insist on ignoring polite request not to use enter. Any chance you could address your comments to people talking to you so others can see what is happening in channel?
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> does not open anything
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> k you know what im just going to call it a night, sorry guys i am just too annoyed atm.
[06:47] <Beldar> gdeeble, If it is not really more than an irritant, and does not leave you in a exposed state you might just not worry about it as well.
[06:47] <truba> now just check your routing table
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> how would i do that truba? sorry i am very inexperienced.
[06:48] <gdeeble> Beldar: Reason I'm trying to fix it, is it seems to cause other packages to fail with the server.
[06:48] <Psil0Cybin> because pinging anything does not work, unless I ping my own machine.
[06:48] <Daemoen> Psil0Cybin: without knowing a lot more about whats going on, im just stabbing in the dark,  but sometimes, its best to step back and wait
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> alright Daemoen
[06:49] <Beldar> gdeeble, Ah, bummer, well I have no real answer, also I have to take off for a short time is all, so hope you get this resolved.
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> ill just call it a night and hopefully have a clear head tmwro
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> do some googling i guess.
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> thank you Daemoen, IdleOne, somsip, truba.
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> have a good night all.
[06:50] <gdeeble> Beldar: Thank you for your help and time. Regardless of getting it fixed, it's nice to have someone try to help and point in a direction :)
[06:50] <truba> Psil0Cybin : just check your arp table once again
[06:50] <dsrtrck> hi
[06:50] <Psil0Cybin> sorry how do i check the arp table once again truba? before i shut off the machine
[06:50] <truba> cat /proc/net/arp
[06:51] <Psil0Cybin> empty :(
[06:51] <dogmover> Psil0Cybin: ping it from your laptop -it's on the same network isn't it?
[06:51] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[06:51] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[06:52] <Temper> does nfs still use portmap?
[06:52] <Psil0Cybin> wow host unreachable when i ping from my working laptop dogmover
[06:52] <Temper> i just tried to restart the portmap service and it says it is not installed
[06:52] <somsip> !info portmap | Temper
[06:52] <dogmover> ok, that's what I figured - nothing in your arp table still?
[06:53] <Psil0Cybin> nope dogmover sadly
[06:53] <somsip> !find portmap
[06:53] <HDRDanny> Forgot about the 10 min.
[06:53] <truba> Psil0Cygin u just said that internet is working on your other machines
[06:53] <dogmover> Psil0Cybin: just me talkin, but I would suggest a good nights sleep, and buy a $15 network card at Walmart on the way in tomorrow. Just for checking. You can return if if it doesn't work.
[06:53] <Temper> no in my nfs hosts.allow i have portmap: all
[06:53] <Psil0Cybin> truba: the internet is working i am talking to you guys but from my working laptop i cannot ping the machine that is not working
[06:53] <Temper> does that need to be rpcbind?
[06:53] <Psil0Cybin> dogmover: yea i guess i will have to try that with a networking card tomorrow
[06:54] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot ping the server from my laptop
[06:54] <somsip> Temper: looks like portmap is in the rpcbind package. If that's not installed, maybe that is your problem
[06:54] <dogmover> and i would still try booting from that usb - AFTER sleep ;)
[06:54] <Psil0Cybin> the only thing i can ping
[06:54] <Psil0Cybin> is from the server to the server
[06:54] <Psil0Cybin> or from my laptop to the global world.
[06:54] <truba> even I would suggest that u buy a new. but the tcpdump output shows that you are receiving some packets
[06:54] <dogmover> Especially since this was installed without a network being hooked up.
[06:54] <Psil0Cybin> truba like if i ping on the server, to the ip that the server is using ( if that makes sense)
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> it pings it self.
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> just cannot ping annnything else.
[06:55] <Temper> rpcbind is installed
[06:55] <dogmover> that means you stack is good - says not much about the card
[06:55] <Temper> i don't get it
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> hmmmm wow od
[06:55] <dogmover> your, rather
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> okay its 2 am, i worked for 12 hrs straight
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> i need sleep sorry guys, for annoying everyone you guys actually ROCK!
[06:55] <truba> dogmover: what do you suggest ??   we can try one more thin, to statically configure the arp table as well
[06:55] <dogmover> Psil0Cybin: if you keep doing this, it won't be the last one ;)
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> i will attempt a stab at this tomorow. ahhaa
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> good night everyone thanks<3!
[06:56] <dogmover> arp table is just a reflection of what is going on with the network traffic
[06:56] <truba> yes that was a long shot, finding the mac address of the gateway.. neways I m struggling with my own problem
[06:57] <dogmover> truba: he started the day off with a fake raid, screwed aroudn with that for 8 or so hours, finally got some help here, now he has an install that works, but never had the network hooked up during all that
[06:58] <dogmover> truba: I am not sure his software is in good shape. Now that he has green lights on the card, if it were me, I would reinstall.
[06:58] <Temper> if i run mount on the local machine it says access denied..
[06:58] <Temper> mount 127.0.0.1:/test /testmnt
[06:58] <somsip> Temper: sorry. I tried to help but I am no NFS expert
[06:59] <onepiece> char
[07:01] <truba> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 and even installed Nvidia graphic card.   I am using lxde and only xchat at present. my cpu utilization is low. i checked using htop , cpu freq is 800 mgz but my cpu temp is 50 C and my CPU fan is always running. Does this behaviour seem norma
[07:02] <dogmover> truba: that's about what I get on a dell lattitude core2 duo with mint and xfce
[07:02] <dogmover> truba: i did install tlp, a power mgmt util, actually dropped the temp a little
[07:03] <anadon> Q: what is the difference between Mir and early X in regards to function on a graphical system?
[07:04] <hckr> Hi
[07:05] <truba> dogmover: can you tell me how to go about this problem. the problem is not cpu as much as the annoying noise the fan makes always.
[07:05] <hckr> I would like to know if I remove my harddisk from my computer, then link it to another computer, will ubuntu/grub work?
[07:05] <dogmover> truba: what kind of machine?
[07:05] <somsip> hckr: ubuntu is pretty good at things like that, but it isn't guaranteed to work at all
[07:05] <hckr> Currently,I have no graphic driver installed apart from the ones that comes with installation
[07:06] <truba> dogover: Dell inspiron 5420 , i3 processor
[07:07] <helen_> hello
[07:07] <truba> dogmover: at 50 C does the cpu fan have to run in full speed ?
[07:08] <helen_> hello
[07:08] <somsip> helen_: do you have a support question?
[07:08] <dogmover> truba: so when I got this one, the temps were up near 60. I had to get a new battery so I could update the bios. Then I read that the external power supply has caused some problems, so I switched that, no change. The updated bios dropped it below 50 -
[07:09] <truba> dogmover: how to update the bios ?
[07:09] <dogmover> truba: the darn processor was pegged - all the time  - - untl I did that. then I installed http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html - which you should read about - and that brougt it down a little more
[07:09] <dogmover> truba: you go to dell's site and see if there is a later one. download it and install it per their directions.
[07:10] <dogmover> truba: I had to write an msdos usb, then install it to that - some utiltiy from the internet - there's a bunch of those out there
[07:10] <truba> dogmover: so the problem is not with the fan.. the fan will be running when the temperature is at 50 C ?? I just need to figure out how to get the temperature below 50 C, Am I rite ?
[07:10] <helen_> hello
[07:11] <dogmover> truba: hard to tell, but that seems reasonable. hang on just a minute...
[07:11] <anadon> Q: what is the difference between Mir and early X in regards to function on a graphical system?
[07:11] <somsip> anadon: mir is not released yet, so you won't get an answer here
[07:11] <anadon> Fair enough
[07:12] <SSV> what is a non pae ubuntu setup
[07:12] <somsip> !pae | SSV
[07:13] <colinlee> hello,,anyone here??
[07:13] <truba> dogmovera: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713431/  just check this which one is my cpu and what is the other thing.  I have nvidia graphics card installed
[07:13] <somsip> SSV: so non-PAE is one that doesn't use that
[07:13] <dogmover> truba: ok, so from what I see we are not alone, and dell has had some issues with their bios and the fan running all the time. You might want to check with their support. Was this machine running something else b4 ubuntu?
[07:13] <somsip> !anyone | colinlee
[07:13] <colinlee> where am i??
[07:14] <somsip> colinlee: this is the channel for ubuntu support. What are you looking for?
[07:14] <SSV> iam trying to install on less then 3.23G ram
[07:14] <truba> dogmover: yes I was running windows7 before.. but I need to switch to ubuntu+lxde to save RAM as I'll be running virtual machines on my new system
[07:14] <somsip> SSV: don't worry about PAE then, unless you plan to upgrade RAM in the future
[07:14] <dogmover> truba: makes sense - was it doing that when you had win 7?
[07:14] <colinlee> wow! cool~ i'm learning linux
[07:14] <holden87> Hi guys, i have a question. How stable is compton compositing? Is it okay to replace the default xfce compositing, because that one is causing screen tearing...
[07:14] <SSV> how do i get that
[07:15] <dogmover> truba: actually - did you have a monitor on it like you do now?
[07:15] <somsip> colinlee: well this is a specific support forum. Maybe #linux might be more suitable for you
[07:15] <somsip> SSV: what do you have now?
[07:15] <truba> dogmover: not at all.. what is annoying is cpu temp is fine.. cpu util is fine.. ram usage is fine   only thing is fan
[07:15] <dogmover> truba: so it didn't run all the time b4?
[07:16] <colinlee> i'm chinese where do you come from?
[07:16] <truba> dogmover: ya. only when it is required. actually can u look at the pastebin link I gave
[07:16] <truba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713431/
[07:17] <somsip> !ot | colinlee
[07:17] <colinlee> 我是中国人
[07:17] <dogmover> truba:  i did - one thing that was suggested when i was troubleshooting this on our dell was to install the proprietary drivers - i did, but it didn't help, But that's on a diff machine
[07:18] <gdeeble> Has anyone used Suricata?
[07:18] <truba> dogmover: can you tell me which is the cpu and what is the other thing . I guess the other thing is GPU processor if I am not wrong
[07:20] <SSV> iam getting a boot error this kernel  requires the following features not present on the cpu pae unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu
[07:21] <somsip> SSV: reads like you installed a PAE kernel on a non-PAE CPU
[07:21] <Laric> how come the mainline ppa kernels (3.13-rc7 in this case) is compiled using gcc-4.6 and the saucy kernels are gcc-4.8? Can't use the mainline kernels with a nvidia driver then?
[07:21] <dogmover> truba: brb
[07:21] <SSV> somsip: where can i get a non-PAE
[07:22] <somsip> Laric: you would need to ask the PPA maintainers. We don't support PPAs in this channel (if I understand your question right)
[07:22] <Ben64> SSV: it'd help to explain what you're trying to do
[07:22] <somsip> SSV: have you upgraded the kernel? My understanding is a non-PAE kernel is installed by default
[07:23] <Ben64> somsip: actually, pae is default on most ubuntus now
[07:23] <Laric> somsip: well mainline ppa is ubuntu's own right? it is not a normal ppa
[07:24] <somsip> Ben64: ah. Then I understand wrong. Fair enough
[07:24] <SSV> where can i get a non-pae
[07:24] <Ben64> SSV: it'd help to explain what you're trying to do
[07:24] <truba> dogmover: so i checked about the Dell bios.. I bought the laptop much after the latest release date shown
[07:24] <dogmover> truba: I'm not sure I can. It has something to do with a table in your bios, but I would have to read up on it
[07:24] <widdershins> would LOVE a hand with this. Fresh install of 13.10, never docked my (currently updated) iphone4 to it. Each time I try, it says that the connection failed becuase the device is locked. There is no passcode or password lock on the phone, of any kind. The main computer ui says it cannot dock, and Amarock also says it cannot connect to the phone. Help?
[07:25] <SSV> kernel
[07:25] <Ben64> SSV: you're trying to "kernel" ? thats not a verb, or even a complete thought
[07:25] <somsip> Laric: AIUI, PPAs are not supported here. I'm happy to be corrected though
[07:26] <truba> dogmover: ohk
[07:26] <gdeeble> Does anyone know of a way to force remove a package? I've tried -f with both dpkg and apt-get but both tell me the package is in a bad inconsistant state and re-install but it won't even do that
[07:27] <Mace268> do i need to restart my DE (ctrl-alt-backspace) if xorg server was updated?
[07:27] <widdershins> sorry, back in a moment
[07:27] <Ben64> Mace268: if you want to use the new version, yes you need to restart it
[07:27] <Mace268> ok thanks Ben64
[07:28] <SSV> Ben64: iam trying to install ubuntu  but  when i boot up from usb it says  pae error
[07:28] <SSV> somsip: on ubuntu web site
[07:28] <dogmover> truba: on the other hand, now you have me reading things I haven't read ;)
[07:29] <somsip> SSV: some solutions on that first link I gave you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[07:29] <Ben64> SSV: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[07:29] <truba> dogmover: haha I have to setup a gns3 lab on my laptop so I can run a no. of cisco routers and firewalls.  but I can do that only if I get rid of this problem
[07:29] <dogmover> truba: what command did you run to get that output?
[07:32] <dogmover> truba: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/339453-28-what-tepmeratures-represent
[07:33] <SSV> somsip: I am trying to install Ubuntu  12.04.3
[07:33] <Temper> ssv: are you having fun yet?
[07:33] <somsip> SSV: are you following the instructions in the link from me or Ben64? If not, do that instead
[07:34] <SSV> somsip: Yep thanks
[07:34] <truba> dogmover: I have an i3 processor , but on my its showing just core0 and core1 :(
[07:35] <dogmover> truba: how many cores does it have?
[07:36] <Laric> isn't i3 2-core?
[07:36] <truba> ya
[07:37] <truba> it's 2-core actually,
[07:38] <truba> so my cpu temperature is even below 50 C at 45 C and 43 C . thats a good sign. but do I need the fan to run at this temp ??
[07:38] <Laric> at 45 and 43 you shouldnt need a fan running
[07:39] <dogmover> truba: take a look at this  - http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/controlling-dell-fan-speeds-temperature-on-ubuntu-debian-linux/
[07:39] <Laric> I have a passively cooled i5 that is normally on 43
[07:39] <truba> dogmover: I went through it thinking of trying it
[07:40] <dogmover> truba: but be very careful and make sure the temp monitoring makes sense so you don't wind up with crispy critter
[07:41] <truba> dogmover: I am skeptical to try this for now.. still looking for other options
[07:41] <dogmover> truba: also make sure it is clean
[07:41] <dogmover> truba: basic stuff first, eh?
[07:42] <truba> dogmover: ya my knowledge in linux is a bit limited.  I am more of a Cisco guy :P
[07:42] <dogmover> ;)
[07:43] <dogmover> truba: i tried upgrading to prop drivers that were available in the distro - then the laptop refused to come back up after I closed it and opened it. Had to blow that away, re-install, and put the latest drivers from the mfr on - but what really did the trick was the bios update.
[07:44] <dogmover> truba: i have to go - good luck with that!
[07:44] <truba> dogmover: thanks for the help
[07:45] <dogmover> truba: oh, and just by the by - virtualbox on linux is GREAT for what you are proposing with your virtual machines
[07:45] <widdershins> apologies. Yes, iphone won't connect to ubuntu 13.10 due to being locked when it cannot be :P
[07:46] <truba> dogmover: b/w vmware and virtual box. What would u suggest ?
[07:46] <dogmover> truba: easy, quick, fairly straightforward - I have tried hyper-v, still working on open, but I have been using virtual box for a long time
[07:46] <truba> dogmover: have u tried qemu ?
[07:46] <dogmover> truba: vmware is fine too, if you have it. virtual box was free ;)
[07:46] <dogmover> truba: yes - and I like it, but vb was just quick and easy
[07:47] <dogmover> truba: still, i will pick up on qemu again when I have the time - just involved in some other stuff right now, and the other was in and done in no time
[07:48] <dogmover> truba: and time is the biggie right now. ltr ;)
[07:48] <truba> dogmover: ohk anyways , a last quesiton If I am not able to solve this fan prob.  should I ignore it .. because I am able to keep cpu freq, cpu utilization, ram consumption  , cpu temp low  ??
[07:49] <michael__> truba: What's the problem you're having?
[07:49] <truba> :michael__ I am using Dell 5420 inspiron : the prob. is my fan always runs
[07:50] <truba> which is very annoying even if the cpu temp is low
[07:53] <michael__> truba: Sorry, my inet went out
[07:54] <michael__> truba: did I miss your answer?
[07:54] <truba> michael__ the problem my cpu fan is always on , even when the cpu temp is low
[07:54] <truba> I am using dell 5240 inspiron i3 processor
[07:55] <michael__> Is it set to always be on in the bios?
[07:58] <truba> Michael__
[07:59] <truba> I was using windows before , there I never had this problem
[08:00] <michael__> truba: Then it's an acpi issue in the linux kernel/config files
[08:01] <truba> Michael__ can you help me out please
[08:01] <michael__> truba: I'm doing a bit of google research on your issue
[08:01] <newleaves_jason> Hi
[08:02] <truba> Michalel__ I am using lxde + ubuntu 12.04,   I have managed to bring down cpu frequency, cpu temperature, utilization and RAM , the cpu tem is arnd 45 C but the fan running is really annoying
[08:02] <elementary-site1> any one know anything about gnu grub
[08:03] <somsip> elementary-site1: what's the real problem?
[08:03] <elementary-site1> i just installed the os and i get the gnu grub screen with bash-line commands
[08:03] <elementary-site1> i have no clue how to boot into the desktop
[08:04] <michael__> elementary-site1: Just wait
[08:04] <michael__> truba: What's the governor set as?
[08:04] <somsip> elementary-site1: is this ubuntu only machine, or does it have another OS too?
[08:04] <elementary-site1> ubuntu only
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> truba: if you're trying to reduce ram usage, i wouldn't unless you need to utilise for other purposes. 95% of the time unused ram is wasted ram. have you tried looking into fan controls?
[08:05] <somsip> elementary-site1: did installtion complete okay with no problems?
[08:05] <michael__> elementary-site1: It should autoboot the first entry after so many seconds, unless you pressed a key
[08:05] <truba> michael__ ondemand
[08:05] <elementary-site1> yes is did just when i reboot i get that screen
[08:05] <michael__> elementary-site1: If you don't intend to use anything else, you could set the timeout to 1
[08:06] <truba> aeon-ltd i need the RAM for virtualization , but even when i m not using anything the fan speed is high
[08:06] <michael__> I'm not sure whether grub allows 0 as a timeout
[08:06] <elementary-site1> how to i boot into the desktop
[08:06] <michael__> elementary-site1: what does the screen currently look like?
[08:07] <elementary-site1> just a black screen with
[08:07] <truba> michael__ any solution ??
[08:07] <elementary-site1> saying gnu grub
[08:07] <michael__> truba: Sorry, don't know whatto do
[08:07] <elementary-site1> bash-line commands
[08:08] <truba> michael__ no probs
[08:08] <michael__> elementary-site1: What ubuntu version?
[08:08] <elementary-site1> elemertary os
[08:09] <somsip> elementary-site1: it's not supported here. I think they have a channel at #elementary-os Check on their support webpage
[08:10] <VLanX> Hello, I am unable to launch Meld and Gparted upon bringing back english as system language. Please advice
[08:11] <somsip> VLanX: what errors do you get>?
[08:11] <jeeves_moss> I'm running into this issue when I'm trying to setup Bind9.  http://pastebin.com/NRgEkuQE  what am I doing wrong?
[08:12] <VLanX> somsip: Gparted just terminates after trying to launch, Meld says: http://pastebin.com/GynjbPNL
[08:12] <VLanX> somsip: Gparted says: http://pastebin.com/Jk7PVRcZ
[08:13] <somsip> VLanX: did you log out and back in again after changing locales?
[08:13] <VLanX> somsip: I even rebooted
[08:14] <somsip> VLanX: is LC_ALL set in /etc/environment?
[08:15] <topper4125> VLanX, try this first answer here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19100708/mongodb-mongorestore-failure-localefacet-s-create-c-locale-name-not-valid
[08:15] <jeeves_moss> Someguy123, want to take a shot at this BIND9 issue?
[08:15] <topper4125> second and third answers might be helpful as well
[08:15] <topper4125> ... for your gparted issue
[08:16] <somsip> VLanX: or http://askubuntu.com/questions/33025/locale-settings-are-not-right-how-can-i-reset-them
[08:16] <VLanX> somsip, topper4125: export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" did the job, thank you guys
[08:16] <topper4125> :)
[08:17] <somsip> VLanX: np
[08:34] <ghostknife> I am looking for a way to get the number of packages available to update. /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check always returns a false value.
[08:38] <schultza> I have an ubuntu server isntalled in a vm with no GUI. How do I get the VM to stop blanking the screen (screensaver)?
[08:38] <kameeon> hi guys. is there a terminal command or anything for me to find out if my computer is up to running ubuntu. i have a 4 yr old fujitsu, with intel pentium dual core 2.1 ghz and an intel integrated card. and 4gb of ram
[08:39] <schultza> lsb_release -a
[08:39] <SwedeMike> schultza: http://nodsw.com/blog/leeland/2011/10/13-disable-blank-console-screens-ubuntu
[08:39] <schultza> SwedeMike: thanks.
[08:39] <schultza> kameeon: lsb_release -a
[08:39] <Beldar> kameeon, It is up to running ubuntu
[08:39] <SwedeMike> schultza: I came upon that page by doing googling <ubuntu console screen blank>
[08:40] <aeon-ltd> kameeon: it will run, but run unity well - probably not. though there are other *buntus with lighter DEs that may run smoother
[08:41] <schultza> kameeon: sorry. thought you were asking if it was already running ubuntu and what version.
[08:42] <kameeon> schultza, no, but thanks. So unity probably wont run smooth
[08:42] <kameeon> ?
[08:42] <kameeon> and its better if i use xubuntu or something of the sort?
[08:42] <Beldar> dual core and 4 gigs ram I don't see why unity would not run fine
[08:44] <schultza> Beldar: would lubuntu work on his system or will that also require video 3d accel?
[08:44] <Beldar> any canonical should run fine
[08:44] <aeon-ltd> intel integrated on a pentium
[08:45] <schultza> But does xubuntu and lubuntu not require 3d accel, right?
[08:45] <adac> ox
[08:45] <aeon-ltd> schultza: no not by default
[08:45] <schultza> ok. thanks.
[08:45] <aeon-ltd> schultza: if you have time you may aswell try ubuntu stock and see
[08:46] <schultza> aeon-ltd: I have to turn on 3d accel for stock Ubuntu.
[08:46] <schultza> otherwise it runs horribly slow on the gui.
[08:47] <Beldar> I have a slower dual core with 3 gigs ram and all desktops run fine, but I'm not a gamer. I think defining what the user actually wants might make this more accurate.
[08:48] <aeon-ltd> Beldar: are on intel integrated graphics?
[08:48] <aeon-ltd> *are you
[08:48] <Beldar> aeon-ltd, yeah I believe so, I'm not real up on hardware though.
[08:56] <sec_> how delete one dir in zip file?
[08:57] <sec_> -d dir doesn't work
[09:03] <new_learner> How to install qt3 runtime library in ubuntu 13.04?
[09:03] <new_learner> How to install qt3 runtime library in ubuntu 13.10?
[09:04] <gordonjcp> new_learner: same way you'd install anything else, if it's packaged
[09:05] <new_learner> i dint find any linkk to qt3 runtime library ...
[09:05] <new_learner> can u help me out
[09:05] <ikonia> isn't qt3 dead ?
[09:05] <gordonjcp> yup
[09:06] <gordonjcp> new_learner: I think there's a compatibility library for qt4
[09:06] <gordonjcp> you could give that a shot
[09:06] <ikonia> I'd be concerned if you're trying to get QT3 apps to run
[09:07] <gordonjcp> Qt4 is already nearly nine years old
[09:07] <aeon-ltd> sec_: why not just unzip it, delete what you want, then rezip it
[09:07] <gordonjcp> new_learner: what on earth are you trying to get running?
[09:07] <ikonia> gordonjcp: 9 years, time flys
[09:08] <new_learner> this one PCL_RELIANCEIND
[09:08] <ikonia> new_learner: are you doing a QT programming tutorial ?
[09:09] <new_learner> no i wanna install reliance 3g data card on mi ubuntu 13.10
[09:09] <gordonjcp> so what's Qt3 got to do with it?
[09:09] <new_learner> This software will not run until you install "QT3 Runtime Library". You can refer to Operaing System installation CD or Homepage to find out the QT3 Runtime Library installation package. This installation process will not continue until you install QT3 Runtime Library first.
[09:09] <ikonia> new_learner: that sounds bad
[09:10] <new_learner> so wats the solution now
[09:10] <gordonjcp> new_learner: well, what are you trying to install?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> new_learner: anything that *relies* on Qt3 is going to be close to ten years old
[09:17] <sec_> aeon-ltd: that large zip
[09:21] <solofight> if i want to write an app for linux where would i start about learning basics ?
[09:21] <solofight> is there any recommended links ?
[09:21] <solofight> understanding the dbus ...etc
[09:21] <solofight> ?
[09:22] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, hello.
[09:28] <Rory> solofight: What languages do you currently know?
[09:30] <opecun> hey everyone! who can help me with unexpected reboot of remote ubuntu server? :)
[09:31] <henry___>  hi I am getting a black screen before I get the login screen on xubuntu 13.10
[09:31] <Asitha> opecun: I'd assume you'd have to contact whoever has physical access to the server
[09:31] <henry___> but as you can see I'm logged in, which was possible by using startx in tty1
[09:31] <Asitha> opecun: unless you got it from a service provider, in which case contact them
[09:32] <henry___> first things I noticed are: sound is off, as well as anti-aliasing
[09:33] <opecun> Asitha: tnx for advice but firstofall I'll try to solve problem without hosting provider
[09:33] <Asitha> Do you have SSH access?
[09:33] <Asitha> opecun: Do you have SSH access
[09:34] <opecun> Asitha: ofcourse, now I'll upload some suspicious log to pastebin
[09:34] <Asitha> oh - I thought your issue was that you couldn't access a remote ubuntu server. You're wanting to know why it unexpectedly restarted
[09:35] <asir_> m
[09:35] <Asitha> nevermind then
[09:35] <truba> helllo guys, I did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04.. is it true that the average idle of ubuntu is higher than windows ?? I am using lxde so shouldnt the temperature be low
[09:35] <opecun> http://pastebin.com/wcY5jV2N and then reboot
[09:35] <opecun> Asitha:
[09:36] <opecun> Asitha: yes I want to know the reason of server reboots
[09:38] <opecun> Asitha: any ideas.. ?
[09:38] <Asitha> opecun: not a clue really.. I'm not that much of an ubuntu expert :p
[09:39] <henry___> truba, maybe google that :)
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> opecun: you would want to look in /var/log/syslog for that info
[09:39] <opecun> hitsujiTMO: the pastebin was from /var/log/syslog
[09:40] <opecun> and there's no suspecious activity in log files
[09:40] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: hey
[09:40] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, man can you please help with that i386 package, i really stucked and don't know what to do
[09:40] <fsgxdroid> how do I enable automatic guest login in ubuntu 13.10?
[09:42] <Rory> fsgxdroid: I googled those words and found this http://askubuntu.com/a/95410/62969
[09:42] <Beldar> fsgxdroid, If you have autologin set whatever the last desktop is run is the default to autologin, I assume the guest is included.
[09:43] <fsgxdroid> alright, i'll try
[09:44] <Beldar> doh I see the file makes more sense
[09:45] <hitsujiTMO> opecun: have you installed systemd on the server?
[09:46] <opecun> hitsujiTMO: I don't see systemd in 'service --status-all'
[09:48] <opecun> hitsujiTMO: but looks like systemd installed (/etc/systemd exists)
[09:48] <hitsujiTMO> opecun: evbug is also dumping user input to the syslog too. suggesting someone was pressing buttons somewhere
[09:48] <hitsujiTMO> opecun: is the server in a datacenter?
[09:49] <fsgxdroid> i tried the following lightdm configuration (http://askubuntu.com/a/95410/62969) and now in greeter i even don't have guest login option anymore
[09:49] <opecun> hitsujiTMO: yes
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> opecun: then someone in the datacenter most likely restarted it
[09:50] <solofight> Rory: currently python, perl (earlier Java, PHP, C, C++, .NET)
[09:50] <opecun> hitsujiTMO: I also ran badblocks and memtester - its OK
[09:52] <holden87> hi. Q: i made two separate partitions, one 40gb for / and one 450gb for /home. Now, when installing a newer version of (x)ubuntu, does the option replace the existing system only replace my system, or does it also format the /home partition?
[09:52] <opecun> hitsujiTMO: owh, bytheway, One time server was in rescue mode
[09:54] <henry___> holden87, installationwill only install to the partition you specify as /
[09:54] <grahamsavage_> is there anyway to make *.local goto 127.0.0.1?
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> opecun: usually the provider needs to do that. (usually they have a web interface that also lets you do that). seems that they're doing things to server and not notifying you.
[09:54] <henry___> other partitions will stay untouched
[09:54] <grahamsavage_> or do i have to manually make a dns entry for every single namespace
[09:54] <grahamsavage_> in /etc/hosts
[09:55] <opecun> hitsujiTMO: yeah, u r right. now I'll email them. tnx for your time
[09:55] <hitsujiTMO> grahamsavage_: you'd have to run your own dns and have that as an entry
[09:55] <grahamsavage_> hmpf
[09:55] <Zolomon> spearhead: I fixed it! If I created a symlink to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys at /home/.ecryptfs/zol/.ssh/authorized_keys the public keys started working. however, now my /home/zol isn't mounted automatically, nor is my ~/.profile ran
[10:01] <henry___> hello, I can't get to the login screen and am only able to log in via tty1. help :)
[10:02] <n008> netstat -tupln doesnt report PID/Program name
[10:03] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: laptop or desktop?
[10:03] <henry___> desktop
[10:03] <henry___> intel graphics only
[10:04] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:04] <henry___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6713996/
[10:05] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, first things I noticed: sound is off, anti-aliasing is off as well
[10:07] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: whats output of: date                            and when did this first start happening?
[10:08] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714004/ and just this morning
[10:08] <henry___> roughly 2,5 hours ago
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: when did you last restart?
[10:09] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, I only see "date" and then a lot of white space in your message
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> henry___: is the OS fully updated?
[10:09] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, this morning. shut it down last night (by German time of course)
[10:09] <henry___> ActionParsnip, yes it is (AFAIK)
[10:10] <n008> netstat -tupln doesnt report PID/Program - ubuntu 12.04
[10:10] <henry___> ActionParsnip, ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade as the first thing to try to "troubleshoot" it
[10:10] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: ok. so x server seems to be working then. sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[10:11] <henry___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714017/
[10:11] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, oh... numlockx
[10:12] <henry___> yeah I think I switched that on yesterday
[10:12] <henry___> woops. is that it?
[10:13] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: greeter itself is broken
[10:13] <henry___> hm ok
[10:13] <henry___> I mean possible to due having "greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx on" lightdm.conf?
[10:14] <henry___> *possibly
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: unlikely but try removing it and restart lightdm. its going past it and the greeter itself still isnt loading
[10:16] <henry___> alright I'll reboot to give it a "complete" try
[10:16] <henry___> will check back right after that. thank you so far... if I fail to show up somehow :P
[10:18] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, that was it
[10:18] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: sweet
[10:18] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, problem solved, thank you ver ymuch :)
[10:21] <jony_easyrider> I need some help from an experienced GIMP user, please
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> jony_easyrider: try #gimp
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> jony_easyrider: try #gimp-users sorry
[10:22] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, just found another setting: there is a checkmark next to "Reset numpad status on bootup" in the keyboard settings
[10:23] <henry___> can I uncheck that or would that have some grave consequences asa well?
[10:23] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: that should be fine
[10:23] <henry___> ok
[10:24] <henry___> no wait it says NumLock status... hm... not sure now tbh
[10:25] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, but why did you guys inqurie about my date thing and last update? :)
[10:26] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, just asking because I would like to understand it all a bit better
[10:26] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: i wanted to see how old you xorg log was. as it had no errors i needed to see was it from this run or a previous run
[10:28] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, I see, thanks
[10:31] <pikaren> libreoffice or openoffice
[10:32] <fidel_> pikaren: i bet asking a full question improves the chances to get an answer ;)
[10:35] <yangm> Ubuntu 12.04.3 or 13.10? for EFI booting
[10:38] <hitsujiTMO> yangm: whichever you prefer
[10:39] <yangm> hitsujiTMO, is it possible to boot of a microsd in a usb adapter?
[10:41] <hitsujiTMO> yangm: ofc. typically you'd want to install as mbr to an externel device tho
[10:42] <yangm> hitsujiTMO, the installation usb
[10:42] <yangm> my installation media source will be that microsd and I'm planning to install it on a 8GB pendrive
[10:42] <hitsujiTMO> yangm: OH, AS IN INSTALLING FROM THE SD?
[10:43] <hitsujiTMO> yangm: YEAH, COMPLETELY POSSIBLE
[10:43] <hitsujiTMO> w00ps caps, sorry
[10:43] <yangm> so why would I need use mbr? wouldn't it make EFI booting impossible?
[10:45] <vanea> Hello. Can somebody help me?
[10:45] <vanea> How to get the previous directory name? I don't understand how to modify this      pwd | awk -F / '{print $NF}'       to make it work
[10:46] <ikonia> vanea: try in #bash
[10:46] <yangm> vanea, have you tried ../?
[10:46] <vanea> yangm:  one sec
[10:46] <yangm> after -F
[10:47] <hitsujiTMO> yangm: uefi can only boot from fat. if you try to install to an external device, the bootstrap gets installed to the efi boot manager, but usually be removed if the device is missing. so if you boot without the usb then its entry in the efi boot manager will be removed and you will not be able to boot the system without readding an entry
[10:47] <henry___> yangm, what do you mean?
[10:47] <vanea> yangm: it shows me the previous and the current directory
[10:48] <yangm> vanea, remove the / and let only ../
[10:49] <henry___> MBR does not work eith EFI booting, I mean you have to decide to either install in EFI or BIOS mode
[10:49] <vanea> yangm:  No-no. I did this    index_8 vanea$ pwd | awk -F ../ '{print $NF}'      and it showed me  prveious/current
[10:49] <vanea> yangm:  one moment
[10:49] <vanea> yangm:  I did this  pwd | awk -F ../ '{print $NF}'      and it showed me  prveious/current
[10:50] <yangm> hitsujiTMO, luckly my ASUS doesn't remove invalid EFI entries and my second computer is a Mac
[10:50] <yangm> vanea, and if you try .. but no /?
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: ok, you maybe fine then. just had a few peeps in here run into that issue
[10:51] <yangm> henry___, yeah, but I want an external device to boot in EFI mode
[10:51] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, huh, sorry? I am fine? what? :) are you talkign about the EFI thing or lightdm?
[10:51] <welly> Hello all. I'm trying to ssh to my dev server using the www-data account but I'm continually getting "permission denied (publickey)" - I've created a local public key and copied it to /var/www/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:52] <welly> but having no joy
[10:52] <welly> I've set the permissions for the .ssh directory to 700 and the files within to 600
[10:52] <shwaiil> Hi, I want to install ruby in my ubuntu 12.04 but some requirements fail. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), http://pastie.org/private/6zes3omxldnjd8g9uin2ag I'm trying to find a solution as I don't know how to solve it. Any suggestion ? Thank you!
[10:52] <yangm> welly, normally, the ssh key should reside on the user's home dir
[10:52] <welly> yangm, that is the users home dir
[10:53] <welly> the user being www-data
[10:53] <yangm> should be /home/www-data
[10:53] <henry___> yangm, yes... um, well like, hitsujiTMO said, the external drive needs to be formatted as FAT(32), so you can boot with it in UEFI mode.
[10:53] <welly> yangm, it's not though. it's /var/www
[10:53] <hitsujiTMO> welly: on the server: cat /etc/passwd | grep www-user
[10:53] <yangm> but you can always do a 'cd'
[10:53] <yangm> this will direct you to your home dir
[10:54] <welly> hitsujiTMO, I'm getting - www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/bash
[10:54] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: thats only if booting without a bootstrap
[10:54] <vanea> yangm:  If I try pwd | awk -F .. '{print $NF}'   it shows me a blank line
[10:55] <henry___> on xubuntu, does anyone know how I can make nautilus remember different sortings methods for each and every folder?
[10:55] <yangm> vanea, pwd | awk -F ../ '{print $NF}' shows only the parent directory for me
[10:55] <hitsujiTMO> henry___: sorry bout the wrong ping earlier :)
[10:55] <OptimusPrime> Can anyone tell me how Ubunutu works with touchscreen computers?
[10:56] <OptimusPrime> Or does it?
[10:56] <vanea> yangm: but I need not the current directory, but the previous of the current directory
[10:56] <yangm> henry___, so you are trying to say to me that I need to install Ubuntu on a fat32 to get efi boot? maks no sense
[10:56] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: yes and no. the os works with it. very few apps support it
[10:56] <OptimusPrime> :/
[10:57] <henry___> hitsujiTMO, np :)
[10:57] <yangm> vanea, ../ is the previous of the current
[10:57] <OptimusPrime> Is there any othere distro of linux that would work better?
[10:57] <henry___> yangm, the usb drive / medium (the one you put the ubuntu .iso on) needs to be formatted in fat32
[10:57] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: ubuntu touch
[10:57] <yangm> vanea, if you need to show the current, then .
[10:58] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: firefox os, android
[10:58] <henry___> yangm, but then you can boot with that and then install ubuntu on your target machine in UEFI mode
[10:58] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: theres very little app support in any desktop flavour
[10:58] <vanea> yangm:  thank youm but it is not working
[10:59] <henry___> yangm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[10:59] <yangm> vanea, '.' current dir, '../' previous dir, '../../' previous of the previous dir
[10:59] <yangm> and so on
[11:00] <OptimusPrime> ok well i guess i can make a Live Boot and try it?
[11:00] <OptimusPrime> I mean really...am I stuck with Windoze 8........
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> yangm: the / in the awk script isnt the directory, its the char to split the string on
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: do you have a touch pad?
[11:02] <yangm> hitsujiTMO, d'oh, tested it on shell only
[11:02] <OptimusPrime> i do
[11:02] <OptimusPrime> i have an asus :)
[11:02] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: then you're fine. just dont use the touchscreen
[11:02] <OptimusPrime> i suppose
[11:02] <allegro_> ola
[11:03] <OptimusPrime> kinda shoulda researched this ahead of time i gues
[11:03] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: boot the live cd and see what you think
[11:03] <OptimusPrime> I have no CD drive
[11:03] <OptimusPrime> But I hae USB 3.0
[11:03] <OptimusPrime> have*
[11:04] <hitsujiTMO> !usb | OptimusPrime
[11:04] <OptimusPrime> Ty
[11:05] <OptimusPrime> Whats the difference between the two?
[11:05] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: if you're making a bootable usb in windows, id advise using kinux live usb or unetbootin
[11:05] <henry___> OptimusPrime, read the pages for that :)
[11:05] <henry___> OptimusPrime, Using USB 2.0 connectors is adviseable
[11:05] <hitsujiTMO> linux live usb*
[11:05] <henry___> no idea why but I bumped into problems with USB3 as well as a friend
[11:06] <henry___> doesn't mean USB3.0 is fault for Linux or anything, just said 2 guys are happeir with usb2 for booting mediums
[11:06] <OptimusPrime> hm
[11:06] <henry___> *said =that
[11:06] <hitsujiTMO> OptimusPrime: most tools dont seem to support persistence on 13.10 yet
[11:06] <henry___> OptimusPrime, often one can switch the usb 3 plugs to work in "legacy mode" (which is usb2)
[11:06] <henry___> OptimusPrime, in the UEFI
[11:07] <OptimusPrime> wtf why did i just get a file transfer on kvirc automatically
[11:07] <OptimusPrime> sorry to change the subject
[11:08] <henry___> deactive automatic download then :)
[11:08] <henry___> *deactivate
[11:08] <OptimusPrime> i have
[11:08] <OptimusPrime> i swear
[11:09] <OptimusPrime> lemme look again
[11:09] <OptimusPrime> great some kind of death-becomes skull...
[11:10] <OptimusPrime> Auto Accept IS off
[11:11] <OptimusPrime> very strange
[11:11] <jeffry__> Hello
[11:12] <jeffry__> Could i get help on installing Grub2 on Ubuntu
[11:12] <OptimusPrime> from a http://images2.layouts/death-becomes-him-skull3100.gif  ?????
[11:13] <OptimusPrime> not quite that address
[11:13] <OptimusPrime> Why would that happen
[11:13] <OptimusPrime> sent from a website not a User
[11:14] <OptimusPrime> i dont understand
[11:14] <OptimusPrime> save to programfiles/avatars
[11:14] <henry___> jeffry__, have you checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 yet
[11:14] <OptimusPrime> does kvirc like allow avatars or something
[11:15] <OptimusPrime> i know this has nothing to do with linux im sorry
[11:15] <Rory> OptimusPrime: No, it's just a (terrible) IRC client
[11:16] <jeffry__> No I have not seen that I will check it out now. :)
[11:16] <Rory> !grub | jeffry__
[11:16] <OptimusPrime> what would u recomend
[11:17] <OptimusPrime> this is why  i need to get off windows as well
[11:17] <OptimusPrime> intersting it happened when nihal changed his avatar
[11:17] <jeffry__> I just noticed Grub is installs in efi but it wont boot from grub
[11:17] <OptimusPrime> i just read scrolled up
[11:18] <jeffry__> sorry I'm very new with this
[11:19] <somsip> !ot | OptimusPrime
[11:19] <OptimusPrime> ok sorry for the off subject i will most likely be back for more help
[11:19] <OptimusPrime> WITH Ubuntu
[11:19] <somsip> OptimusPrime: sure - feel free to come back here with ubuntu questions :)
[11:19] <funky2> hey folks what is the easier soft to accept and send email?
[11:19] <henry___> jeffry__, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:19] <funky2> sendmail?
[11:19] <somsip> funky2: someone pointed me at postfix yesterday which seemed to be simpler in the example they gave
[11:20] <funky2> i am not sure about postfix
[11:20] <jeffry__> Ok itsran
[11:20] <funky2> but I can gtry it
[11:20] <somsip> funky2: nor am I, but I'll throw it out as an alt to sendmail, which I find tricky to setup in the past
[11:21] <funky2> I see
[11:21] <funky2> thanks
[11:22] <jeffry__> Um does anyone know how to get 2 finger scrolling to work?
[11:22] <jeffry__> oh and i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:22] <jeffry__> and it finished
[11:23] <rezzur> hey everyone just gone back to ubuntu everythings fine except flash is playing up, looked into it seems that the old cpu wont support the newest flash, how do i go about rolling back in linux, cheers.
[11:25] <rockdeck> Hi
[11:27] <jeffry__> now i did that command you told me to do now what?
[11:28] <yousaf> httpd -v doesn't work
[11:28] <yousaf> i says no command found
[11:28] <yousaf> it*
[11:32] <hitsujiTMO> yousaf: what are you trying to do exactly?
[11:32] <yousaf> need to find the apache version
[11:33] <hitsujiTMO> yousaf: apache2ctl -v
[11:34] <yousaf> :D
[11:34] <yousaf> worked
[11:34] <yousaf> Could you possibly help me with an htaccess related issue? http://pastie.org/8613604
[11:34] <yousaf> I don't want that to block image files
[11:35] <dimsen> Hey You gusy .. may anybody could help me with my 2 TB Toshiba Drive .. ??
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> yousaf: try moving that rule up
[11:35] <yousaf> the second one?
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> yousaf: yes
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> !details | dimsen
[11:36] <yousaf> like this? http://pastie.org/8613619
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> yousaf: yup
[11:37] <yousaf> no luck
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> try changing <FilesMatch "\.(jpg|jpeg|jpe|gif|png|tif|tiff)$"> to <FilesMatch ".*\.(jpg|jpeg|jpe|gif|png|tif|tiff)$"> or to <Files ~ ".*\.(jpg|jpeg|jpe|gif|png|tif|tiff)$">
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> yousaf: ^
[11:39] <yousaf> thank you
[11:40] <yousaf> the first option seems to work
[11:40] <Nox_404> hi, i made a mistake, i delete the /root folder and i now have some trouble with some commands like updatedb
[11:40] <cong> what is that code for? looks interesting
[11:42] <hitsujiTMO> Nox_404: sudo mkdir /root && sudo chown 700 /root
[11:42] <yousaf> actually it doesn't
[11:44] <Nox_404> the folder is back but hi have this error : shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: Permission denied
[11:44] <jeffry__> how do i set grub as the efi boot loader in  ubuntu?
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> Nox_404: what exactly are you trying to run and what path are you in when you run it?
[11:46] <Nox_404> hitsujiTMO: perms on the parent are rwxr-xr-x
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: what about capitalized file extensions ;)
[11:47] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: :P
[11:47] <Nox_404> i'm not really on a ubuntu, on my system root folder is in /private/var/root
[11:48] <Nox_404> and i'm running in that folder /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> ls | cut -d'.' -f2` | egrep -i 'jpg|jpeg|jpe|gif|png|tif|tiff|bmp'      perhaps
[11:49] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: don't think apache caters very well for case
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: not sure, I'll take your word for it
[11:52] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: hmm actually it does it seems
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: sweet
[11:52] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: but hes gone
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: also sweet
[11:53] <hitsujiTMO> starting with (?i) makes it case insensitive
[11:54] <jpjacobs> Hey all! My monitors won't turn on after locking them before lunch. in syslog I get a lot of messages about xrandr removing and adding my montors, interspersed with messages about "whoopsie". In the mean time Matlab is running a simulation I'd rather not lose. Any ideas?
[11:55] <hitsujiTMO> Nox_404: this is ubuntu support we cannot help for non ubuntu OSs as we have no idea whats going on. try ##linux
[11:56] <MrAlexandro> i want to find how many files i have on my system. in my linux class we are hinted towards using the ls command with recursive. i'm thinkin ls -R but all it does is dump all of the files down the terminal. even if i dump it into a file and do a WC it wont show an excact number of files
[11:56] <Nox_404> hitsujiTMO: ok
[11:56] <alumno> how can i fuck my ubuntu by my usb port?
[11:56] <alumno> plz its very important
[11:56] <MrAlexandro> alumno: plug n play ?
[11:57] <MrAlexandro> and if it says no remember to ask with sudo ;)
[11:57] <alumno> sudowudo the pokemon?
[11:57] <hitsujiTMO> !language | alumno
[12:12] <Frinsh> Hello! I'm looking to buy myself a new laptop and the computer that comes to mind is the Lenovo Thinkpad T530 but I can't find it in the certified computer list. Does anyone know if it works fine with Ubuntu or if I should look for another computer?
[12:13] <ikonia> Frinsh: there are different models of T530's try to check the individual components graphics/wifi/network/etc with linux compatability
[12:13] <jpjacobs> somehow, ubuntu disable both my onitors ... so coming back from lunch, I can not access my x session
[12:13] <jpjacobs> any ideas?
[12:14] <aegisx> Hey Frinsh, if you decide on another brand, my friend recently bought an 11" Sony Vaio and runs Ubuntu on it. He says it's fantastic.
[12:15] <Frinsh> aegisx: I need a bigger monitor than 11" though, but thanks :)
[12:15] <gordonjcp> Frinsh: Macbook
[12:16] <Frinsh> gordonjcp: No. Defeats the purpose of switching to Linux at all ;)
[12:17] <Frinsh> ikonia: So what are the crucial parts I have to look up or do I need to check the compatibility for all parts?
[12:20] <gordonjcp> Frinsh: why?
[12:20] <gordonjcp> Frinsh: just dual-boot
[12:20] <ikonia> Frinsh: I just said the core parts
[12:21] <gordonjcp> Frinsh: Macbooks are great, roughly the same spec and build quality of an equivalent price Thinkpad, but they don't look like something from the early 80s
[12:23] <aegisx> He could easily get a cheaper laptop that looks just as good. ASUS ultrabooks look great, and are known to work with Linux.
[12:25] <t0th_-> hi
[12:26] <t0th_-> if i make apt-get upgrade to upgrade my packages
[12:26] <t0th_-> maybe i have trouble?
[12:27] <aegisx> I tend to use apt-get upgrade only, haven't run into issues yet.
[12:28] <trijntje> t0th_-: aegis AFAIK you can get in a bit of trouble if the updated version of a package has a new dependency, apt-get upgrade doesn't automatically install those
[12:28] <vanea> Hello guys. I have a file http://pastebin.com/wT7DfBLw  that has lines which starts with a number. I want to use sed to show only those lines that starts with digits until the number 10 000.   I use this   sed '/^[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]/!p' file.txt but it shows all the lines
[12:29] <cyberalex4life> Hello!
[12:29] <cyberalex4life> does anyone know how to read/write/change config file values?
[12:30] <cyberalex4life> from command line
[12:30] <vanea> Does somebody know SED?
[12:32] <vanea> Is anybody alive?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> vanea, no - all zombie here
[12:32] <cyberalex4life> just the ones who asks
[12:32] <trijntje> !any
[12:32] <cyberalex4life> seems fair to me
[12:32] <cyberalex4life> :))
[12:33] <trijntje> cyberalex4life: use semething like nedit
[12:34] <cyberalex4life> I was trying to use command that come already in ubuntu to avoid installing new packages
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> vanea: are you sure you don't want grep instead of sed?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Cyber_Akuma, gedit file name?  or possibly sudo gedit depending on permissios
[12:34] <cfhowlett> *permissions*
[12:35] <trijntje> cyberalex4life: vi is installed by default, but will take some getting used to
[12:35] <cyberalex4life> thinking that if other apps do it
[12:35] <spearhead__> Nano will let you edit text files from command line
[12:35] <cyberalex4life> then i should be ablo to do it myself too
[12:35] <chemist^> !paste
[12:35] <cyberalex4life> brb
[12:35] <spearhead__> And it is easy to use
[12:36] <trijntje> ah, nano, thats the one I was looking for
[12:36] <spearhead__> Yes, that is what I use all the time
[12:36] <outagupat> HE
[12:36] <spearhead__> I could never get the hang of vi
[12:37] <vanea> hitsujiTMO: I do not mind using grep but I am not really shure what to write
[12:37] <geirha> spearhead__: you have to run (and get through) vimtutor first :)
[12:37] <cyberalex4life> the reason why i need commands only is because I am working on some scripts of my one
[12:38] <spearhead__> Yeah, too much learning. .. is there really that much of a benefit of vi over nano?
[12:38] <cyberalex4life> I don't want any editor, just want jobs to be done in the background
[12:38] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: then it will depend on what you are changing
[12:38] <trijntje> cyberalex4life: just do date >> file.txt in that case
[12:39] <cyberalex4life> well i have a file named touchpad status
[12:39] <cyberalex4life> in it two line
[12:39] <cyberalex4life> status=1
[12:39] <spearhead__> You can append to the end of a file very easy... but changing stuff in the middle isn't so easy
[12:39] <cyberalex4life> go=0
[12:39] <knightshade2> vanea: sed -n '/^[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][^0-9]/p'
[12:39] <cyberalex4life> I need to change those separately
[12:40] <trijntje> cyberalex4life: if the file is just two lines just create it from scratch
[12:40] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: the guys in #bash can help you write shell scripts if you are new to it
[12:40] <trijntje> cyberalex4life: but what is the end goal you want to acchieve? Maybe there are better ways to do it
[12:41] <vanea> knifebunny:  Thank you
[12:41] <cyberalex4life> the ideea is that now I use two files
[12:41] <cyberalex4life> for each value
[12:41] <cyberalex4life> and read with cat
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> vanea: grep '^[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][^0-9]' /path/to/file
[12:41] <cyberalex4life> write with echo 'value' > file
[12:42] <vanea> knightshade:  thank you
[12:42] <cyberalex4life> I thought it would be ok to keep things tighter
[12:42] <cyberalex4life> as thight as I can
[12:42] <trijntje> cyberalex4life: more high level, the end goal
[12:42] <vanea> knightshade2: thak you
[12:43] <vanea> hitsujiTMO:  it works. Thank you!!!!!
[12:43] <cyberalex4life> I have two scripts to load specific settings for when using touchpad and not
[12:43] <cyberalex4life> this includes settings for each mode
[12:43] <cyberalex4life> these two variables are flags
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> vanea: if you want to modify content use sed, if you just want to filter used grep
[12:44] <cyberalex4life> they change all the time I change modes
[12:44] <cyberalex4life> I needed this workaround because of a bug from 13.10
[12:44] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: what is the bug ?
[12:45] <cyberalex4life> the bug has been reported by me
[12:45] <cyberalex4life> and has been closed
[12:45] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: then it's not a bug - or it's fixed
[12:45] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: please show me the bug number
[12:45] <cyberalex4life> it has been fixed in trusty
[12:45] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: what's the bug number
[12:46] <cyberalex4life> I don't know
[12:46] <cyberalex4life> it does not appear in launchpad anymore
[12:46] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: please get it - it should be under your launchpad account if you logged it
[12:47] <cyberalex4life> like I said
[12:47] <cyberalex4life> it don't appear no more
[12:48] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: it will still be in your launchpad account
[12:48] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: what is your launchpad id - I'll search it
[12:48] <cyberalex4life> but where
[12:48] <cyberalex4life> cyberalex4life
[12:49] <cyberalex4life> yesterday it showed 6
[12:49] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~cyberalex4life
[12:49] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: which one of those is it
[12:50] <ikonia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~cyberalex4life/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=OPINION&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.status%3Alist=EXPIRED&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT
[12:50] <ikonia> whoaa sorry
[12:50] <ikonia> hit that URL though
[12:50] <ikonia> that shows all 9 bugs you've logged
[12:51] <ikonia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1245412
[12:51] <ikonia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/1225782
[12:51] <cyberalex4life> I am trying to explain to you that the 2 bugs on which I corresponded these day and got to a closure
[12:51] <ikonia> those are the two that are "fixed"
[12:51] <cyberalex4life> don't exist anymore
[12:51] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: which of those two bugs is it ?
[12:51] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: bugs don't just "not exist" that shows 9 bugs - all bugs you have ever logged
[12:51] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: which bug is it
[12:52] <cyberalex4life> Unexpected form data
[12:52] <cyberalex4life> Launchpad doesn't understand the form data submitted in this request.
[12:52] <cyberalex4life> it's the one with touchpad
[12:52] <cyberalex4life> if you can see all
[12:52] <cyberalex4life> it's the one with touchpad
[12:53] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: they offered a fix in 13.10 and you said "no thanks 14.04 will be fine"
[12:53] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1245412 this is the bug
[12:54] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: it also says you need to go through the sru process (with a link) to get the bug fixed properly
[12:54] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: are you doing any of this ?
[12:54] <cyberalex4life> look my scripts work well now
[12:55] <cyberalex4life> I am doing this because my scripts provide some more than usuall ubuntu control center
[12:55] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: then what is the problem why are you asking "how to write a script" if they work well
[12:55] <cyberalex4life> does
[12:56] <spearhead__> Ikonia, he is asking how to make the script better
[12:56] <cyberalex4life> I searched the internet for changing a config file by value
[12:56] <hitsujiTMO> cyberalex4life: use sed then
[12:56] <cyberalex4life> but didn't seem to find info on that
[12:56] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: #bash will help you write scripts
[12:56] <cyberalex4life> I was searching for a more elegant way
[12:56] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: if you want help fixing the bug we can do that
[12:57] <cyberalex4life> that's all
[12:57] <ikonia> cyberalex4life: but basically if you don't want to "fix" the bug properly as instructed in launchpad, then use #bash to help you write your own peronal scripts
[12:57] <cyberalex4life> I understand
[12:57] <spearhead__> Or go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> cyberalex4life: sed -i 's/^value=.*$/value=newvalue' /path/to/bash/config
[12:58] <ikonia> #ubuntu-offtopic isn't a learn shell scripting channel
[12:58] <ikonia> it's offtopic
[12:58] <ikonia> #bash is the shell scripting channel for bash
[12:58] <spearhead__> hitsujiTMO: looks like I need to learn more about sed
[12:58] <cyberalex4life> thanks, took a long time, but thanks
[12:59] <spearhead__> And this topic is "off" the ubuntu support topic...
[12:59] <Oxcyde> hello there :)
[12:59] <Obi1kenobe> good morning
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Obi1kenobe, greeetings
[12:59] <kostkon> Obi1kenobe, hi master
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> spearhead__: yes, its not just for flixing types               s/flixing/fixing
[13:00] <AnakinSkywalker> Good morning Master ObWan
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> s/types/typos
[13:01] <Obi1kenobe> i install synaptic yestarday on 12.04 and did LXDE  desktop today i can`t get synaptic  any clue  any1 ?
[13:02] <cm13g09> ok - best suggestion for connecting to an L2TP/IPsec VPN using certificates and MSCHAP auth from the gui?
[13:02] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: can you start it via command line?
[13:02] <Obi1kenobe> nice one Skywalker
[13:02] <psooo1> good afternoon
[13:02] <psooo1> i need a little help please
[13:02] <Rory> !ask | psooo1
[13:03] <Rory> Obi1kenobe: Can you run "sudo synaptic" from a terminal and see if it works?
[13:03] <Obi1kenobe> @KM0201 what do you mean "Command line" ... terminal?
[13:03] <Obi1kenobe> ok
[13:03] <Obi1kenobe> give a sec
[13:03] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: yes, opena  terminal and type sudo synaptic
[13:03] <KM0201> and see if it opens
[13:04] <Obi1kenobe> dio@Obi1Kenobe:~$ sudo synaptic sudo: synaptic: command not found
[13:04] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: that doesnt make sense.
[13:05] <Obi1kenobe> i try to install from terminal
[13:05] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:05] <Rory> Obi1kenobe: When you say you "did LXDE desktop" how did you do that? What do you mean?
[13:05] <Obi1kenobe> i did try sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:05] <psooo1> the question is: in software center, i have wiritten "chromme" in the box of the site of programmer. Now it doesn t work. It gives a fail - Directory not founded...how can i revert it?
[13:05] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: and what happened when you typed that?
[13:06] <Rory> psooo1: you can install chrome from http://chrome.google.com or install the "chromium-browser" package using Software Centre or apt-get install
[13:06] <mezzobob> someone know a good channel for girl advice?
[13:06] <KM0201> mezzobob: not here.. :)
[13:06] <Rory> !ot | mezzobob
[13:06] <Obi1kenobe>  Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? dio@Obi1Kenobe:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:06] <EvilDMP> Hi, I'm on 10.10 and needing to install memcached
[13:06] <Rory> Obi1kenobe: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:06] <EvilDMP> I realise this is a rather old version
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | mezzobob
[13:06] <k1l> EvilDMP: 10.10 is EOL
[13:06] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: now we're getting something, looks like you've got something using root....
[13:06] <Rory> EvilDMP: 10.10 isn't supported, you need to upgrade to 12.04 or 13.10
[13:06] <k1l> !eol | EvilDMP
[13:07] <Obi1kenobe> @rory from synaptic you install LXDE desktop closest to Windows XP
[13:07] <Rory> Obi1kenobe: sudo apt-get install synaptic - the sudo is important
[13:07] <Obi1kenobe> @rory i used bash as root
[13:07] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: i wouldn't say it's "closest to windows XP"... the only similarity is it has 1 menu w/ several submenus.... there is no "linux that is closest to XP" (or any version of Windows)... any similarities are purely cosmetic
[13:07] <psooo1> i have chromme installed, the problem is that i can not use the link (site of programmer) in applications of software center...as it does not recognize the word "chormme", it gives an error...but it does not offer the possibilitie to solve it
[13:08] <Obi1kenobe> for my wife is the best one :)
[13:08] <EvilDMP> k1l Rory - I do realise that 10.10 is well past its use-by date, but still need to test memcached on this machine before I can migrate everything to a new server
[13:08] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: then either kill that bash job(or whatever is using root at the moment)... or restart
[13:08] <Rory> Obi1kenobe: Can you just try to run: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:08] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: well thats fine, but it's not the best because it's "like windows"
[13:08] <Obi1kenobe> ok i will try
[13:08] <KM0201> Rory: he did...
[13:08] <Rory> !info memcached
[13:08] <KM0201> or at least he said he did.
[13:09] <EvilDMP> the last time i tried upgrading a server it trashed the whole thing, so I am anxious not to repeat that experience
[13:09] <Rory> EvilDMP: What happens when you try to run "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install memcached" ?
[13:09] <Rory> EvilDMP: Your server is not recieving security updates
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> EvilDMP: you would have to download a version that will build on that machine, assuming that you have all the build tools installed, as well as any dependencies. Outside of that you're screwed as the 10.10 repos no longer are available
[13:09] <KM0201> EvilDMP: so stick w/ LTS releases, and keep them up to date?... then you can upgrade every 5yrs.. you're not gonna upgrade 10.10 very easily
[13:10] <EvilDMP> hitsujiTMO: I should have the build tools
[13:10] <EvilDMP> Rory: from install: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[13:10] <EvilDMP>   memcached
[13:10] <Rory> EvilDMP: You could find a .deb from a later version, and try installing it
[13:10] <KM0201> EvilDMP: even if you have them, you're dancing the issue.. today it's one thing, tomorrow it's another..
[13:10] <EvilDMP> KM0201: tomorrow I will be on a new server - *if* I am able to test memcached here first!
[13:11] <Obi1kenobe> dio@Obi1Kenobe:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic [sudo] password for dio:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'synaptic' has no installation candidate dio@Obi1Kenobe:~$
[13:11] <Rory> Obi1kenobe: Can you run "sudo apt-get update" first?
[13:11] <EvilDMP> unfortunately, I am where I am, and have to start from here rather than from a more happy LTS position
[13:11] <Obi1kenobe> ok
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> Obi1kenobe: cat /etc/isuue
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> Obi1kenobe: cat /etc/issue
[13:12] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:12] <psooo1> i think the thing is not very important, however i would like to have it properly working...
[13:12] <KM0201> synaptic should install w/o any issue at all...
[13:14] <Obi1kenobe> no diference
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> Obi1kenobe: cat /etc/issue
[13:14] <Obi1kenobe> i will try Sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:14] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: what command did you type to install lxde?
[13:15] <KM0201> and what version of Ubuntu did you install?
[13:15] <Obi1kenobe> just pick up from synaptic , i used to do the same if i want to run Kubuntu under Ubuntu
[13:15] <Obi1kenobe> just pick up from synaptic , i used to do the same if i want to run Kubuntu under Ubuntu
[13:15] <KM0201> !lubuntu | Obi1kenobe and by the way, this would be a lot easier if you want lxde
[13:15] <smithmconnor> Hey. I get a  * Starting web server apache2                                                  Action 'start' failed.
[13:15] <smithmconnor> The Apache error log may have more information.
[13:16] <smithmconnor> when i start apache
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> Obi1kenobe: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:16] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: but perhaps you installed the wrong package.. is my poiint...
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> smithmconnor: sed -i 's/fox/log/' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
[13:16] <Obi1kenobe> that could be
[13:17] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: thus why i keep asking,w hat did you install... try installing this... sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[13:17] <Obi1kenobe> this computer actualy has Ubuntu 12.04 but mate as desktop enviroment
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> Obi1kenobe: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:18] <smithmconnor> Im getting a apache2 Action start failed
[13:18] <Obi1kenobe> E: Package 'synaptic' has no installation candidate dio@Obi1Kenobe:~$ sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-desktop
[13:18] <chemist^> damn it i always forget this urls
[13:18] <chemist^> !paste
[13:18] <KM0201> i'm betting he just installed "lxde".. from synaptic.. thus why it didn't install, as that is only a meta package.
[13:18] <KM0201> no installation candidate?... you've got something screwy going on w/ your source list.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> KM0201, if he installed lxde, then he ONLY got the desktop environment ...
[13:19] <hitsujiTMO> !mint | Obi1kenobe
[13:19] <KM0201> cfhowlett: right.... which i suspect is his problem.
[13:19] <spearhead__> chemist^, if you are trying to pastebin from command line pastebinit is really easy to use
[13:19] <vononka> hello all
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !paste|chemist^,
[13:20] <vononka> how to I use ADT in ubuntu
[13:20] <vononka> ?
[13:20] <chemist^> spearhead, i know.... no i had to post a screenshot
[13:20] <spearhead__> Oh ok
[13:20] <KM0201> how the hell did you pick up he was using Mint?
[13:20] <smithmconnor> Please help. When I start apache I get Action 'start' failed.
[13:20] <Obi1kenobe> Mint using mate
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> KM0201: mint uses mate, hes avoiding providing the output of cat /etc/issue, lubuntu-desktop is not in the repo
[13:21] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: oh i didn't pick up on that... well, go ask the folks in the mint support channel.. it's on spotchat
[13:21] <psooo1> how do i define the browser again to open website directlly from software center?
[13:21] <smithmconnor> Action 'start' failed.
[13:21] <smithmconnor> Action 'start' failed.
[13:21] <smithmconnor> Action 'start' failed.
[13:21] <FloodBot1> smithmconnor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> smithmconnor: what do the apache logs say?
[13:21] <smithmconnor> Please help. When I start apache I get Action 'start' failed.
[13:22] <smithmconnor> hey
[13:22] <renodef> Would somebody please help with instructions on the installation of Ubuntu on a Windows 8 machine? Yes, it's a UEFI and secure boot enabled. Fast start
[13:22] <smithmconnor> can people hear me?
[13:22] <Obi1kenobe> but now i was here all the time chating i use Unity  why would i have this problems?
[13:22] <KM0201> because mint sucks?
[13:22] <renodef> is turned off, and I've already partitioned my HDD using the disk manager... but I'm simply unable to boot from USB to start the LiveUSB installer
[13:23] <spearhead__> smithmconnor, yes we can hear you
[13:23] <zomGreg_> Sm
[13:23] <KM0201> Obi1kenobe: just go ask them, they probably know.. like i said, itheir support channel is on spotchat
[13:23] <Rory> !mint | Obi1kenobe
[13:24] <spearhead__> smithmconnor, what do the Apache logs say?
[13:24] <Rory> smithmconnor: Can you post the contents of /var/log/apache2/error.log
[13:24] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[13:24] <smithmconnor> Sure
[13:24] <Obi1kenobe> thanks guys may the force will be whit you
[13:24] <Obi1kenobe> always
[13:24]  * cfhowlett knew that was coming ...
[13:25] <Obi1kenobe> :) have great day every1
[13:25] <AnakinSkywalker> Obi1kenobe my the force be with you
[13:25] <smithmconnor> how to I select all of the text in NANO
[13:25] <yangm> great. I installed ubuntu both ways, efi and bios mode on my usb. guess what? mac doesn't recognise either but my efi ASUS will boot if it has been installed using bios mode. it is starting to grind my gears
[13:26] <Rory> smithmconnor: best is to do "sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /var/log/apache2/error.log"
[13:26] <Rory> smithmconnor: It will give you a URL to the pastebin automatically
[13:26] <spearhead__> Rory beat me to it
[13:27] <smithmconnor> here
[13:27] <smithmconnor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714791/
[13:28] <Rory> smithmconnor: what's the output of "sudo service apache2 stop ; sudo service apache2 start" ?
[13:29] <smithmconnor> Stop says [ OK ]
[13:29] <smithmconnor> start says Action 'start' failed.
[13:29] <smithmconnor> The Apache error log may have more information.
[13:29] <smithmconnor>                                                                          [fail]
[13:29] <smithmconnor> start
[13:29] <FloodBot1> smithmconnor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:30] <spearhead__> There are a bunch of errors in the ml-slider plugin
[13:30] <Rory> OK smithmconnor now can you run "sudo pastebinit /var/log/apache/error.log" again?
[13:31] <smithmconnor> sure
[13:32] <smithmconnor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714812/
[13:33] <BlueShark> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu 13.04, and my mouse's right-click button isn't working. I tried doing xev | grep -i button  in terminal — but it only shows ButtonRelease events 1 and 2 (left click and scrollbar) not right-click. Any ideas?
[13:33] <smithmconnor> I recently installed a seperate vHOST for a ssl site
[13:33] <gordonjcp> BlueShark: faulty mouse
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> smithmconnor: looks like a misconfiguration somewhere trying to log to /usr/local/apache/logs/error_log instead of /var/logs/error_log
[13:33] <dimsen> Hey Guys sorry .. I've been busy last hours .. hope you'll apologize my bad english .. im here from Germany .. I have a 2TB Toshiba hard drive and I cannot install Ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10 on it. At the moment this Drive is attached in my current mashine (Ubuntu 13.04) as addidtional drive but its not mounted. As soon as i mount this drive, the error eppaers and 10 - 20 min. later the whole system freezes and i have to restart the PC with the har
[13:34] <spearhead__> Smithmconnor,  have you added anything to WordPress recently?
[13:34] <BlueShark> gordonjcp: It was working fine just 2 hours ago. I don't think it's a faulty mouse.
[13:34] <Rory> smithmconnor: How did you install apache?
[13:34] <BlueShark> Let me check once again, though.
[13:34] <floogy> Hi, I got issues with u1, something gets wrong with my u1 keyring token. Now I noticed, that I'm missing Applications -> Accessories -> Password and Encryption Keys. This is 12.04 upgraded from 10.04 (8.04)
[13:34] <smithmconnor> Rory: When I disable the ssl Vhost it works fine
[13:34] <Rory> smithmconnor: It looks like in one of your apache config files, it's trying to log to /usr/local/apache/logs/error_log.
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> smithmconnor: look in the new vhost for /usr/local/apache/logs/error_log
[13:35] <smithmconnor> So how do I fix it
[13:35] <floogy> How can I delete that wrong token, to get u1 working again?
[13:35] <Rory> smithmconnor: change it to /var/log/apache2/ssl_error.log or something
[13:35] <hitsujiTMO> smithmconnor: give it a valid log path instead of /usr/local/apache/logs/error_log
[13:35] <Rory> floogy: you can install the "seahorse" application
[13:35] <Rory> !info seahorse | floogy
[13:35] <floogy> What's the name of the program starting with Applications -> Accessories -> Password and Encryption Keys
[13:36] <floogy> Rory, is that seahorse?
[13:36] <Rory> floogy: Yes
[13:36] <floogy> thx
[13:37] <floogy> It's there. I'm looking now for the u1 token, thx.
[13:38] <Rory> floogy: Try this https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/how-do-i-completely-remove-and-reinstall-ubuntu-one/
[13:38] <Rory> floogy: specifically:      sudo apt-get purge ubuntuone-client python-ubuntuone-storage*
[13:38] <floogy> I read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/375797/ubuntu-one-file-sync-does-not-work-on-12-04
[13:38] <Rory> floogy: Try the steps on the link to completely remove and reinstall Ubuntu One
[13:38] <floogy> dobey suggests to delete the token.
[13:40] <floogy> There is a token 'UbuntuOne token for https://ubuntuone.com
[13:42] <renodef> anybody...? Hel with instaling ubuntu on a Windows 8 machine...
[13:42] <smithmconnor> Rory: I changed it in the vHost file and I get the same thing. Error log:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714844/
[13:42] <smithmconnor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714844/
[13:42] <smithmconnor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714844/
[13:42] <smithmconnor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714844/
[13:42] <FloodBot1> smithmconnor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <smithmconnor> derp
[13:42] <Rory> !details | renodef
[13:42] <Rory> smithmconnor: Now it's trying to log to  /usr/ubuntu/error_log
[13:43] <renodef> lol..HELP. Help with installing Ubuntu on a Win 8 machine... not hel with.
[13:43] <floogy> Rory, thx. deleting the token in seahorse and reconnect to u1 seems to pop up the dialog to give user and password again and it worked. No reinstallation of u1 is necessary.
[13:43] <fidel_> renodef: in short it should be: a) free some space from the HD b) boot the installer-cd
[13:43] <Rory> floogy: Awesome :)
[13:43] <smithmconnor> Where should I change it to
[13:43] <Rory> !ask | renodef
[13:43] <fidel_> renodef: free some space in termos of - creating space for 1-more new partitions which the installer will create
[13:43] <Rory> smithmconnor: Something like /var/log/apache2/error.log since that's where the other errors are going
[13:45] <renodef> Rory, fidel - HP Pavilion 15 1003tx, UEFI enabled, Secure boot enabled, Win 8, and created a live usb of the 12.04.3 image (64 bit). Partitioned my hard-drive using the Windows utility, and formatted the created free space too. I truned of the fast start, turned off the Secure boot, enabled legacy support, changed the boot order to have USB key first - but the laptop simply won't recognise the USB.
[13:46] <renodef> Rory, fidel - So it just boots straight into Win8. I checked the LiveUSB on another Win7 laptop, and that boots through grub, allowing me to install or try Ubuntu. But it's not happening on this one.
[13:46] <Rory> renodef: Are you sure the BIOS is set to boot from USB?
[13:47] <renodef> yup..
[13:47] <smithmconnor> Rory: Ok I changed it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714861/
[13:47] <Rory> renodef: Do you get any kind of error message when trying to boot from the USB?
[13:47] <spearhead__> Renodef how did you make the live usb?
[13:48] <Rory> look, smithmconnor just read what it's saying:  [error] (2)No such file or directory: could not open transfer log file /usr/local/apache/logs/ssl_request_log.
[13:48] <renodef> Rory - None... it just boots straight into Windows. If I use the shift+shutdown on Win8, and then choose boot from USB... it says Error...could not boot from the selected device
[13:48] <Rory> smithmconnor: It can't write there, use /var/log/apache2 instead of /usr/local/apache/logs
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> smithmconnor: you have a second log file /usr/local/apache/logs/ssl_request_log try changing that to /var/log/apache2/ssl_request.log
[13:49] <renodef> spearhead_ - Used the iso from releases.ubuntu.com (AMD64/EXT64) and pendrivelinux.com
[13:49] <valerio> ciao
[13:49] <smithmconnor> Nope
[13:49] <vlt> Hello. I’m using chromium on Ubuntu 13.10 and have problems opening google.com (mail.google.com or youtube.com are fine, also most other sites). When I rename my ~/.config/chromium dir it also works. Any idea how to fix that?
[13:50] <smithmconnor> Doesn't work
[13:50] <Rory> smithmconnor: Look at the error log file now, and read the last couple of lines, they will say the problem
[13:50] <valerio> ciao
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: a lot of peeps have issue with pendrivelinux, particulrly with 13.10, try unetbootin or linuxlive usb
[13:51] <codeadi> Can someone help me with applying a patch to the upstream kernel?
[13:51] <codeadi> I am troubleshooting this launchpad bug #1245150 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1245150 which is related to bluetooth being disabled in system settings.. The summary is that this is a problem in upstream linux kernel... The last known mainline kernel which works is v3.9 series and the problem starts with v3.10 onwards... I have found that bug #60824 on Kernel Bug Tracker is similar to my problem: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.c
[13:51] <codeadi> gi?id=60824 There is a patch provided in comment #6 which has solved the issue for others... I would like some help with applying this patch and would appreciate some hand-holding with this one...
[13:51] <gancl> Hi!I created a qt software on ubuntu,how to create a install package for it?So others can download and run it without error.
[13:52] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - alright, I'll give them a whirl. IS it because pendrivelinux doesn't prepare a boot sector that supports UEFI? I confess I didn't read it...having used it previously without problems/
[13:52] <aguitel> i install manually firefox (tar.bz2) ,how install flash ?
[13:52] <Rory> !packaging | gancl
[13:53] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: not sure the problem exactly. but after the release of 13.10 the majority of users that came in here that had a problem with booting a usb created in windows were using pendrivelinux. switching to another tool worked for them
[13:54] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Hmm.. I was loading 12.04... but still, I'll trial run linux live
[13:55] <dimsen> @ hitsujiTMO .. have you read the details about my issue .. ??
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> dimsen: whats the exact error?
[13:56] <vanea> I have this file of name of JPEGs http://pastebin.com/ipxNTRJD and I want to place each name on new line. I did this   bla=$(cat names.txt | sed "s/ /\n/g");  echo $bla;  but it did not split names like I wanted
[13:57] <dimsen> here is the error / issue ive noticed =>
[13:57] <dimsen> Hey Guys sorry .. I've been busy last hours .. hope you'll apologize my bad english .. im here from Germany .. I have a 2TB Toshiba hard drive and I cannot install Ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10 on it. At the moment this Drive is attached in my current mashine (Ubuntu 13.04) as addidtional drive but its not mounted. As soon as i mount this drive, the error eppaers and 10 - 20 min. later the whole system freezes and i have to restart the PC with the har
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> dimsen: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit          then attach the drive and run: dmesg | pastebinit
[13:57] <dimsen> Sure
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> dimsen: just paste the url it generates here
[13:59] <codeadi> is someone here comfortable in applying patches to upstream linux kernel?
[13:59] <codeadi> I need some hand-holding for same..
[14:00] <psooo1> when in software center if i want to fo to a site directley it gives me this - Failed to execute child process file or directory - suggestions to solve this...or it is not important, coz i can go with a link copy paste!?
[14:00] <dimsen> @ hitsujiTMO => http://paste.ubuntu.com/6714914/
[14:02] <dimsen> @ hitsujiTMO the error appears from line 720
[14:02] <Guest19041> Noob here, need a little help please.
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> VaNNi: dimsen looks like issues with the drives controller.
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> dimsen looks like issues with the drives controller.
[14:02] <knightshade> vanadis: use tr instead of sed, like tr ' ' '\n'
[14:03] <Guest19041> I am trying to install vmware and I am not very familiar with using the terminal to install software.
[14:03] <dimsen> @ hitsujiTMO may there are any solutions for fixing that issue .. ??
[14:03] <Guest19041> I have the file downloaded and it says to use chmod to verify that the file is executable.
[14:04] <Guest19041> I type in chmod +x ./VMware-  plus the file name i have and it says cannot find file.
[14:04] <Guest19041> Am I doing something wrong?
[14:04] <spearhead__> !chmod | Guest19041
[14:05] <vlt> Hello. I’m using chromium on Ubuntu 13.10 and have problems opening google.com (mail.google.com or youtube.com are fine, also most other sites). When I rename my ~/.config/chromium dir it works until I log in chromium to my google account. Any idea how to fix that?
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> dimsen: if its the enclosure that's causing the problem, then you could try a different enclosure or connect the internal driver directly to the motherboard. but with errors like that its most likely the controller on the drive itself so it looks like you'll need a new drive
[14:06] <dimsen> but this drive is allready new .. ive allready replaced it ..
[14:06] <dimsen> So i dont guess its the hard drive
[14:07] <Guest19041> I read over that, but not really helpful
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> dimsen: it could be from a bad batch or anything
[14:08] <Guest19041> Do i need to manually change the file name  to make it executable?
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> Guest19041: what folder is the file in?
[14:09] <dimsen> OK .. but when its possible to insall and run windows on it .. that harddrive should be Ok ??
[14:09] <Guest19041> downloads in the home folder
[14:10] <Nothing_Much> I need help with a transaction, my gift card isn't working in the Ubuntu One music store.
[14:11] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Still there? The laptop still doesn't detect a boot device on a USB port with Linux Live.
[14:11] <hitsujiTMO> Guest19041: chmod +x ~/Downloads/VMware-*
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: in the bios toggle the usb legacy support option
[14:13] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - It's toggled. But the thing is, there's no way of disabling UEFI, or deleting the OS Manager from the UEFI boot list. And the UEFI boot list takes precedence over the Legacy one. So I don't think I'll be able to boot anything that's not UEFI supported. Also, I thought it might've been something to do with USB 3.0 and USB 2.0, but my boot manager offers the option to have all of them configured as USB 2.0 pre-OS load...
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: by toggle, i mean if its on, turn it off, if its off turn it on
[14:14] <ack_> hi all
[14:14] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: is the usb port you're using blue?
[14:14] <ack_> Does anyone know why 12.04 sometimes boots to tty1 instead of the GUI?
[14:14] <gancl> !backports |gancl
[14:15] <dimsen> @ hitsujiTMO i allready had installed MS Windows 7 on it and ive got no issues.. to except that .. ill try installing MS Windows 7 again and make some tests .. if that fails .. i can be sure that that harddrive is broken .. but atm im not sure..
[14:15] <Guest19041> chmod: cannot access ‘~Downloads/VMware-Player-6.0.1-1379776.i386.bundle’: No such file or directory
[14:15] <Guest19041> brad@brad-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC:~$
[14:15] <Guest19041> still no luck
[14:15] <gancl> !sponsoring |gancl
[14:15] <Nothing_Much> I need help with a transaction, my gift card isn't working in the Ubuntu One music store.
[14:15] <Guest19041> This has to be something simple I am overlooking
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> Guest19041: missing a / after ~
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> Guest19041: chmod +x ~/Downloads/VMware-*
[14:16] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Ah.. I'd attempted an install earlier with the legacy option off (Default setting). I then toggled it and still no change. I don't know what you mean by blue (You mean check if it's listed in the BIOS?). It's a 2.0 slot that I've plugged it into though.
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: look at the phyical port. id the platic bit on the inside blue?
[14:16] <trijntje> Nothing_Much: I dont think people here can help you with that. The ubuntu music store is ran by canonical, not the community
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> is*
[14:16] <ack_> So, no one knows?  Why does Ubuntu 12.04 sometimes boot to tty1 instead of the GUI?
[14:17] <Nothing_Much> trijntje: What do I do then? I want some music. :(
[14:17] <ack_> Nothing_Much---use an mp3 player, lol
[14:18] <k1l> ack_: see the logs to know why its booting to tty1
[14:18] <Nothing_Much> ack_: But I don't wanna pirate the music, Ubuntu and Caravan Palace deserve my money.
[14:18] <trijntje> Nothing_Much: Whats the problem? Which "card" do you mean, and what do you mean with "Doesnt work"?
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> Nothing_Much: try https://one.ubuntu.com/help/contact/
[14:18] <Nothing_Much> trijntje: It's a gift card with Visa
[14:18] <ack_> Nothing_Much, yes, I was jk
[14:19] <Nothing_Much> ack_: Oh okay
[14:19] <ack_> k1l----How do I see the logs?
[14:19] <Nothing_Much> hitsujiTMO: I could've sworn that there was a live chatroom somewhere here..
[14:19] <k1l> see dmesg and syslog in /var/log
[14:19] <ack_> Sorry everyone, I forget how to target a message to specific users....
[14:19] <Kartagis> what replaced python-virtinst?
[14:19] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - uhh.. nope. It's not. Black/grey AFAI can tell. But now that I look at them... I've got one USB port with four notches in the plastic part, and two usb ports (with an SS-<- symbol) that don't have these notches. I've started the computer with the pen drive plugged into both these ports thus far
[14:19] <Guest19041> do i need to add the downloads to the gksudo command as well?
[14:20] <ack_> k1l, thanks!
[14:20] <Kartagis> !find virtinst
[14:20] <Kartagis> !info virtinst
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: do you have a rooted android phone by any chance?
[14:21] <ack_> k1l, have a nice day (and/or night)
[14:22] <trijntje> Nothing_Much: we don't work for canonical, so we cannot help you with purchasing stuf from canonical
[14:22] <Guest19041> gksudo bash ./VMware-Player-6.0.1-1379776.i386.bundle
[14:22] <Nothing_Much> trijntje: Alright, but I was in a channel somewhere that brought me to Canonical employees
[14:22] <Guest19041> i put this in to start the install and it just went back to terminal
[14:22] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - I've got one where the original firmware was flashed and another one installed. But I don't think I have root access on it now. I had a terminal app installed and the root access commands weren't allowed.
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: damn. theres a handy tool on rooted android devices (DriveDroid) for mounting isos as virtual disk drives. could have helped in this situation. renodef what filesystem is the usb?
[14:24] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - FAT32 I think. That's what the tools format it as..? The default setting?
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: crap you're in windows
[14:25] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - yeah lol
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: hop into the disk management tool in the administrator tools and ensure that the drive is fat32
[14:26] <renodef> hitshujiTMO - I have another laptop with Ubuntu if that'll help check whatever you wanted to check with the Android phone.
[14:27] <renodef> Damn typos. hitsujiTMO -- I have another laptop with Ubuntu if that'll help check whatever you wanted to check with the Android phone.
[14:27] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: nah if its not rooted tis no good. we'll stick with the usb.
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> renato_: un the ubuntu laptop tho, can you insert the usb and pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: ^
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> renato_: sorry
[14:28] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - yeah..hang on.
[14:30] <karra> hello all
[14:30] <bsdbandit> good morning karra
[14:31] <karra> what should we discuss here?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !topic|karra,
[14:33] <karra> well, bluetooth has become an  big issue since 12.10
[14:33] <psooo1> may i unninstall and reinstall software center in xubuntu 12.04?
[14:40] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:40] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - OK, here's the fdisk o/p for the USB with the iso: paste.ubuntu.com/6715092/
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: thats the usb?
[14:42] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - yeah.
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: were you running an OS from it at some stage?
[14:43] <fer755> !lsof
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: messed up partition table on it
[14:43] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Only Ubuntu live, for a while. But then I formatted it... once with the Windows utility, and each time I wrote the ISO to it. You're thinking I should reformat it in Ubuntu?
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: from the ubuntu machine: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=$((1024 * 1024)) count=1
[14:44] <Hexeon> Ubuntu is the most popular distro, right?
[14:45] <robinmholt> hitsujiTMO: Does that clear out a GPT label as well?
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> robinmholt: only the primary gpt not secondary. zero the last megabyte too for gpt
[14:46] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - OK... that says 1+0 records in, 1+0 records out, 1.0 MB copied @ 286 MBps
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: then go into gparted and create a new msdos partition table and create a new fat32 partition
[14:46] <robinmholt> hitsujiTMO: Doesn't windows use a GPT label by default when it initializes disks now as well?
[14:47] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Err.. how do I do that? :P #NewbieQuestions Also, what exactly did your command do?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> robinmholt: not sure on that.
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: sudo apt-get install gparted              then run gparted from the dash. its a graphical editor so should be straight forward
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: that command zeros the first megabyte on the usb. so it wipes any partition info
[14:49] <robinmholt> hitsujiTMO: Looks like Windows 7 and later when installed with EFI as their boot loader will default to using GPT labels.  Also, something related to disk size, but I found conflicting information.
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> robinmholt: well efi requires gpt, so it will set that for the install. but as regards external, it most likely defaults to mbr for compatability, unless the driver is greater than 2tb
[14:54] <MrAlexandro> anyone who knows how to open pdfs trough ssh
[14:55] <MrAlexandro> pdf files...
[14:55] <geirha> MrAlexandro: ssh -X or just download the file first
[14:56] <robinmholt> MrAlexandro: Is you ssh connection over a low-latency network?  Do you have X forwarded (ssh option or config setting)?  If so, evince is very quick.  If not, copy the file to your local machine and open it from there.
[14:57] <fer755> !strobe
[14:58] <_1_JackJones> /server irc.geveze.org
[14:58] <MrAlexandro> robinmholt: fast connection. X11 forwarded in ssh config file and x!11 forwarded in sshd. tried using xpdf but will try with evince
[14:58] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - OK, Gparted keeps throwing up an error when I ask it to format the partition created with FAT32
[14:59] <MrAlexandro> alexander@UbuntuHist1:~$ evince /usr/share/cups/data/default.pdf
[14:59] <MrAlexandro> Cannot parse arguments: Cannot open display:
[14:59] <robinmholt> renodef: How large of partition are you trying to create?  How large is the device?  What is the error message.
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: reboot and try again. may need to reeread the partition table. otherwise could be a bad usb
[14:59] <robinmholt> hitsujiTMO: Wouldn't unplugging and replugging the USB drive be faster?
[15:00] <robinmholt> MrAlexandro: What does 'echo $DISPLAY' say?
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> robinmholt: meh, thats too easy
[15:00] <MrAlexandro> blank
[15:01] <robinmholt> MrAlexandro: You display is not actually forwarded.  You will need to drop the ssh connection and reconnect with 'ssh -X'
[15:02] <MrAlexandro> ok gotcha
[15:02] <robinmholt> hitsujiTMO: I think 'partprobe /dev/sdX' is very reliable as well.
[15:03] <MrAlexandro> robinmholt still blank will have a look in the ssh_config file
[15:05] <spearhead__> MrAlexandro,  are you trying to connect through terminal or are you in a tty?
[15:05] <robinmholt> MrAlexandro: Places to look are on the destination in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, on the source in /etc/ssh/ssh_config, and in ~/.ssh/config on both sides.
[15:05] <MrAlexandro> trough terminal using an OS x devica as a client spearhead__  and robinmholt
[15:07] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Alright, restarted the Ubuntu machine. In the meantime, I formatted the USB stick on the Windows machine.
[15:07] <spearhead__> MrAlexandro,  when you forward the x session you won't see any change until you try to open a program and then it will just open on your computer like any other window... you can test that x forwarding is actually working by trying to run firefox or gedit or something like that that you know opens on the computer you are connecting to
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: cool. try create the live usb now again
[15:09] <MrAlexandro> spearhead: ok so wont be able to actually open and display the pdf in the terminal window on the mac client but rather on the ubuntu server itself
[15:09] <MrAlexandro> that was for spearhead__
[15:09] <spearhead__> MrAlexandro what will happen is the pdf will be opened on the server but will be displayed on your mac
[15:10] <MrAlexandro> spearhead__: so i must probably configure something on the mac as well?
[15:10] <spearhead__> MrAlexandro,  if you want to actually open the pdf on the mac you will have to copy it over...
[15:11] <MrAlexandro> spearhead__: no to open it on the server but display on mac would be the perfect solution
[15:12] <spearhead_> MrAlexandro,  did you get that last one? I got disconnected.
[15:13] <loki_> how i can find uid for partiotion?
[15:13] <MrAlexandro> spearhead_: I got a question last. you asked if i wanted to open the pdf on the mac. i replied i think it is perfect to open on the server but view on the mac
[15:13] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - OK.. I'm using LinuxLive this time, and the thing's creating it now. I left the default options on for the LiveUSB creation. (Something about Hiding created files on key, and enabling "launching LinuxLive in windows")
[15:14] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Also left the persistence size at zero.
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: ok. now, does it boot?
[15:15] <spearhead_> MrAlexandro,  I don't know if the mac needs any special configuration to work, I would try to forward x with ssh -X server and install gedit with sudo apt-get install gedit then try and run gedit
[15:15] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Still writing. Plus, I'm on the laptop where I want to install it. I'm going to have to close the irc to check. Or did you want me to check on the Ubuntu machine? I'm pretty sure it'll work on that one.
[15:16] <MrAlexandro> spearhead_: but first echo $DISPLAY needs to show something else than blank right?
[15:16] <MrAlexandro> i am trying to configure ssh_config but cant find where in it i have gone wrong
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> renodef: if you can pastebin: sudo fdisk -l                 again just to make sure its a valid partition table
[15:17] <spearhead_> Yes
[15:17] <nashant> Hey guys. How do I install unity on ubuntu server? Just unity though, I don't want all the apps to go with it, just the bare minimum
[15:18] <spearhead_> MrAlexandro can you pastebin your ssh_config file
[15:18] <MrAlexandro> spearhead_ : i might have found my error :D:D i had unchecked the # symbol but forgotten to change from no to yes :D:D
[15:18] <spearhead_> MrAlexandro that would probably do it
[15:18] <MrAlexandro> rebooting the ubuntu on the vmserver now
[15:18] <MrAlexandro> mm :p
[15:19] <nashant> got it. --no-install-recommends
[15:20] <spearhead_> MrAlexandro, next time you don't have to completely restart the server just to sudo restart sshd if I remember correctly
[15:21] <MrAlexandro> spearhead_ nice! :D
[15:23] <spearhead_> MrAlexandro, is it working?
[15:24] <MrAlexandro> spearhead_: no but here is a pastebin of the ssh_config : http://pastebin.com/kCd1hvi3
[15:27] <geirha> MrAlexandro: Just to rule out the obvious; you do have an X server installed and running, right?
[15:28] <geirha> MrAlexandro: OSX does not include one by default
[15:28] <renodef> hitsujiTMO - Damn...that took some juggling internet connections. Here's the pastebin for the sudo fdisk -l after the Windows format of the USB stick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6715332/
[15:28] <MrAlexandro> geirha no i have not installed an x server on the client os x but i am assuming one is running on the server ubuntu ?
[15:29] <geirha> MrAlexandro: Whether the server is running one is irrelevant when you want to run it on OSX
[15:29] <MrAlexandro> geirha ok
[15:29] <geirha> MrAlexandro: Install XQuartz on the OSX and it should start working.
[15:30] <spearhead_> MrAlexandro,  http://support.apple.com/downloads/X11_for_Mac_OS_X_1_0
[15:31] <spearhead_> There is the apple supported x11 server
[15:31] <MrAlexandro> geirha & spearhead_ : ok installing now. i just dont get how that would list something on the ubuntu when typing echo $DISPLAY. will it autodetect when i ssh
[15:31] <spearhead_> geirha, thanks, I don't really have any experience on macs
[15:33] <gyre007> guys...does NTP have to listen on ALL interfaces ?
[15:33] <ikonia> no
[15:33] <gyre007> by default it does...as far as I can seee
[15:33] <gyre007> mm
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> gyre007: check your config file, it should state the interface if memory serves
[15:35] <gyre007> ok sec
[15:35] <gyre007> doesnt mention any interface
[15:36] <MrAlexandro> geirha what does XQuartz actually do? it asks me to log inn and out to make itself the default X11 server. does it replace a default one?
[15:36] <ikonia> gyre007: you may need to add the parameter
[15:36] <gyre007> but Im wondering WHICH interfaces should it listen then on
[15:36] <ikonia> gyre007: which ones you want it to
[15:37] <gyre007> :)
[15:37] <gyre007> well I dont really care as long as my time is synched
[15:37] <gyre007> with the time servers..
[15:37] <geirha> MrAlexandro: Only if you've already installed a different one already
[15:37] <mensvaga> I'm using gnome, and all of a sudden alt+tab stopped working.  The alt key works, the tab key works, but alt+tab doesn't switch applications.  I've looked in my system settings for keyboard short cuts, and alt+tab is set in there to switch applications.  Has anybody seen this before?
[15:37] <mensvaga> It was working at the beginning of my session.
[15:38] <geirha> MrAlexandro: Just start it manually, and run ssh from a terminal spawned from xquartz. you can log out and back in later
[15:38] <vbgunz> does anyone know why pulseaudio does not remember anything I tell it? I tell it my main mic is front but every reboot, it resets to rear. I tell it my main master channel is built-in audio but it resets to HDMI. this is pretty irritating. anyone know what's happening?
[15:38] <mensvaga> alt+f2 works, ctrl+alt+t works, but alt+tab just decided it wasn't going to work.
[15:40] <MrAlexandro> geirha & spearhead_ : now echo $DISPLAY shows something: localhost:10.0
[15:40] <spearhead_> Perfect try opening something
[15:40] <geirha> MrAlexandro: ssh -X user@host uxterm
[15:40] <MrAlexandro> it worked
[15:41] <MrAlexandro> spearhead_& geirha : it actually opened a sofware that is not from my mac :D:D
[15:41] <MrAlexandro> cool :D
[15:45] <MrAlexandro> geirha: thanks for the xquartz tip. Did i modify anything in os x system by installing this?
[15:46] <vbgunz> does anybody know why pulseaudio configurations reset after every reboot?
[15:46] <vbgunz> a clue would be awesome right about now
[15:46] <geirha> MrAlexandro: You just installed an application like any other application
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:47] <MrAlexandro> geirha awesome thanks :D
[15:47] <vbgunz> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: then reboot, may help
[15:49] <nashant> is it not possible to run a live usb in uefi mode?
[15:49] <nashant> All I get is a blank screen
[15:49] <master_op> hello, why my ubuntu 13.04 cannot open certain websites (chrome and firefox), is there any problem ?
[15:49] <scoates> hello. I have an old (non-LTS) box on 11.04, and I can't even `apt-get update` it anymore because it looks like 11.04 has been removed from us.archive.ubuntu.com … is there a legacy mirror that I can switch my sources.list to, so I can get this thing updated?
[15:50] <rtwhrt> hi Kate777
[15:52] <rtwhrt> scoates: Pick up the deal, repo
[15:52] <rtwhrt> old
[15:52] <scoates> ah. found http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[15:53] <Pessimist> master_op, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com (http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release)
[15:53] <rtwhrt> yes, this is.
[15:54] <Kate777> Hi everbody! :)
[15:54] <rtwhrt> Hi Kate777 :*
[15:55] <Kate777> Hi rtwrt :)
[15:55] <rtwhrt> scoates: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:55] <rtwhrt> or gedit
[15:55] <scoates> yep. I got it. thanks rtwhrt
[15:55] <k1l> master_op: can you give more details?
[15:55] <rtwhrt> gedit is bets :)
[15:55] <scoates> vim is better, but no vim on that box. I used perl. (-:
[15:55] <Stark7> can i386  take advantage of dual core(i have a intel core2duo)? i don't want to install amd64 as the binaries consume more ram(i have 2gb ram only)
[15:56] <rtwhrt> vim is good :)
[15:56] <minmi> wha
[15:56] <scoates> perl -p -i -e 's/us\.archive\.ubuntu\.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:56] <k1l> just dont run gedit (or other gui programs) with sudo.
[15:57] <rtwhrt> Stark7: you can use 32-bit system
[15:57] <vbgunz> ActionParsnip: that seems to have fixed the issue where my high def controller would keep turning on, so my default output is correct but my mic input still keeps resetting. how do I fix that? got a clue? I'm stumped :/
[15:57] <iceroot> Stark7: the binaries will not consume more ram which you will ever notice
[15:57] <iceroot> Stark7: but yes you can use i386 with dual core cpus but i would suggest amd64 on all cpus which supports 64bit
[15:57] <Pessimist> Stark7, yes, the difference between x86_64 and i386 is how much memory can be allocated
[15:58] <rtwhrt> vbgunz: terminal: alsamixer
[15:58] <CorySimmons> Where can I get the non-server version of Lucid?
[15:58] <CorySimmons> These all seem like server versions http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[15:58] <iceroot> CorySimmons: not supported anymore
[15:58] <master_op> k1l, i have ubuntu 13.04 , some websites load instantly like linkdein, and many websites takes many minutes to load , for exp: facebook,
[15:58] <iceroot> CorySimmons: desktop version was supported 3 years, server 5 years, so please dont use 10.04 as desktop anymore
[15:58] <vbgunz> I got front mic as input source for pretty much everything
[15:58] <Stark7> ubottu, any help?
[15:58] <vbgunz> out of the 2 options
[15:59] <Stark7> no one?
[15:59] <iceroot> Stark7: no one what?
[15:59] <iceroot> Stark7: we answered your i386 question
[16:00] <_br_> Hi there, does anyone know if Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 have issues with HP Compaq laptops (HP Compaq CQ45). Experiencing here issues that X doesn't launch. (question by proxy, since collegue has no working system)
[16:00] <scoates> thanks again
[16:01] <k1l> Stark7: if the cpu can use 64bit go for 64bit
[16:01] <rtwhrt> is on the vga driver?
[16:01] <Hix> I'm trying to install a nodejs .deb, but it falls ove citing dependency problems, I've tried sudo apt-get remove nodejs  to  remove prev but that fails too. Any ideas?
[16:01] <k1l> master_op: sound slike a ISP or resolving host problem
[16:02] <Pessimist> _br_, boot into the terminal and run this: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us and tell us the link
[16:02] <Stark7> sorry guys currently download ubuntu thats why replys are coming late
[16:02] <master_op> many computers are connected to the same network dosen't have this kind of problem
[16:02] <rtwhrt> br: xorg.l
[16:02] <rtwhrt> og
[16:02] <_br_> Pessimist: rtwhrt: Sure, thanks. Will do.
[16:02] <CorySimmons> iceroot: I'm trying to replicate my production environment (Cedar stack on Heroku - Ubuntu 10.04) locally. I'd like to have access to a browser and such from within the environment so is the desktop version available anywhere?
[16:03] <rtwhrt> br: sudo
[16:03] <Pessimist> _br_, or Xorg.1.log -- I don't really now which one :)
[16:03] <Pessimist> know*
[16:03] <_br_> Gotcha, told him.
[16:03] <Stark7> k1l, i use a lot of 32bits apps and this machine does support 64 bit but its not worth it
[16:04] <Pessimist> CorySimmons, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[16:05] <CorySimmons> Pessimist: Thanks
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: you can get upwards of 30% speed increase just going to 64bit, while using approx 1-2% more ram. defo worth it
[16:05] <Stark7> if i had a machine that had more than 3gigs of ram then i would have go for it
[16:06] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner?
[16:06] <mojtaba> I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[16:06] <tmro> sent here from #vbox - when I mount VBoxGuestAdditions.iso as a device on 10.04 as guest, nothing shows up in /cdrom or /media
[16:07] <tmro> same process works fine with 12.04 as guest (both vanilla installs with 13.04 as host)
[16:07] <Pessimist> tmro, 10.04 is not supported and what do you expect when you use ancient software
[16:07] <Stark7> hitsujiTMO, i have a crappy 4 year old sony laptop with core2duo and 2gb..t runs windows 7 32 bit pretty aweful  AND I MEAN IT!!still worth it?i
[16:08] <tmro> I expect things to function as documented
[16:08] <mojtaba> Does anybody know?
[16:08] <CorySimmons> I'm on a newer Macbook (64bit) should I get the 10.04 32-bit or 64-bit?
[16:09] <Armok> So switched over to ubuntu a few months back after planing to for years when my old computer crashed. Since I dont know anythign, I've been relying on a friend for EVERYTHIGN wich is anoying due to lack of avilability and time. Finaly got him to recomend somehtign because I were tired of waiting for weeks geting minnor thigns fixed and he recomended this for helping myself.
[16:09] <CorySimmons> Also, I'm trying to get as close to Heroku Cedar as possible, so how can I tell if it's 32 or 64 for them? (probably 32 I bet)
[16:09] <tmro> CorySimmons: have you a specific reason to get 10.04?
[16:09] <k1l> Stark7: 64bit is not only to use more ram. its every process can use broader ram.
[16:09] <Pessimist> CorySimmons, you should get 12.04/13.10 and if your laptop is older consider using Lubuntu/Xubuntu because old releases of ubuntu are not supported and they have unfixed security issues and bugs
[16:09] <Stark7> CorySimmons, thats definitely a go for 64 bit
[16:09] <k1l> Corey: 10.04 desktop is out of support. should go with 12.04 at least
[16:10] <CorySimmons> tmro: Yeah, I'm trying to replicate my production environment within VirtualBox
[16:10] <Stark7> k1l, broader ram? but ihave only 2gb
[16:10] <CorySimmons> Just to cut down on headaches
[16:10] <tmro> CorySimmons: same here
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: yes. check out the benchmarks http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_x86_1304&num=2 many 64bit instructions take 2 or more instructions to execute on a 32bit machine. switching to 64bit can only give you a performance increase. ofc the increase will depend on what you're running, but, none the less, its still better than 32bit
[16:11] <CorySimmons> tmro: Maybe we should do 32-bit then since I'm sure that's what Heroku cedar has
[16:11] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[16:11] <k1l> Stark7: not only for overall ram (32bit uses PAE anyway to use more than 4gb)
[16:11] <tmro> in any case 'not supported' is the watchword for today
[16:12]  * ActionParsnip cant wait for Raring to die off
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: come back in a fortnight
[16:12] <CorySimmons> tmro: Yeah I understand them wanting to get people away from older versions (doesn't explain attaching the taskbar to the left side) but there's a real reason for this :(
[16:13] <tmro> yep
[16:13] <tmro> let me know if you have any problems with guest additions :)
[16:14] <k1l> !eol | CorySimmons see this for explanation
[16:15] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[16:16] <Stark7> k1l, hitsujiTMO  what kind of prep do i have to take for installing 32bit apps on amd64?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: not much. ubuntu 12.04+ automatically has multiarch enabled
[16:17] <k1l> !multiarch | Stark7
[16:18] <Stark7> hitsujiTMO, oh so no extra libs
[16:18] <k1l> Stark7: this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch but as it says: you should not have to concern yourself
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: any extra libs should be installed as normal.      if you need a 32bit lib         its installed by appending :i386 to the packagename. most external packages cater for this
[16:20] <CorySimmons> k1l: I understand :)
[16:20] <CorySimmons> tmro: I'm sure I will. Are you on Mac too?
[16:22] <Stark7> thank you hitsujiTMO k1l for the confirmation just a few more q's(oh no?) about xubuntu & security as i read exaggerated reviews by the haters
[16:23] <tmro> CorySimmons: ubuntu at the moment
[16:23] <tmro> I run vbox on mac too
[16:23] <Armok> One problem I and a friend (mostly the frisnd) have been mulling on for like amonth or more withote finding anythign: While in 99.999 of cases it dosnt matter, certain jokes and artistic effects on the site MSPA relies on having the font rendered EXACTLY like on windows, and it just hapens to be using Curier New. Any idea what to do abaut this?
[16:24] <Pessimist> Armok, install ttf-mscorefonts-installer ?
[16:24] <Armok> I think I tried that but will try again
[16:24] <sm_> Hello, How can I setup OPEN WiFi access point on Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS?
[16:24] <Z32> How can I have the command 'sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi' run at startup?
[16:24] <Armok> "install: missing destination file operand after `ttf-mscorefonts-installer'
[16:24] <Armok> Try `install --help' for more information.
[16:24] <Armok> "
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> Armok: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html
[16:25] <Pici> Armok: that wasn't a command.  You would need to do: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[16:25] <Pessimist> Armok, the command is sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[16:26] <Pessimist> Z32, echo "iwlwifi" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules.conf
[16:26] <Armok> oh. as I said I'm kinda new to this.
[16:27] <Pessimist> Z32, this should append iwlwifi to /etc/modules.conf which means iwlwifi will be loaded on boot
[16:27] <repozitor> how to set separate MAC for eth0:1?
[16:27] <ikonia> repozitor: you don't
[16:27] <ikonia> repozitor: it's not a physical card
[16:27] <repozitor> now eth0 and eth0:1 are same as to the other!
[16:27] <Armok> "ttf-mscorefonts-installer is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 122 not upgraded."
[16:27] <repozitor> ikonia, do you sure?
[16:27] <Armok> so presumably that didnt fix it
[16:27] <ikonia> repozitor: %101 certain
[16:28] <repozitor> :))
[16:28] <ikonia> repozitor: they are meant to be the same
[16:28] <sm_> How can I setup OPEN WiFi access point on Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS?
[16:28] <repozitor> ikonia, how to have 2 separate interface with different MAc?
[16:28] <ikonia> repozitor: buy 2 cards
[16:28] <repozitor> 2 physical card?
[16:28] <ikonia> repozitor: correct
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: why do you want different macs?
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: or should i say, why do you think you need them?
[16:29] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, i want to know how vmware create new interface with different MAC!
[16:29] <ikonia> repozitor: they are not real, they are virtual
[16:29] <ikonia> repozitor: and when they leave the host they take the physical hosts mac
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: they create virtual hardware, not virtual interfaces
[16:29] <repozitor> ok, so how to create virtual?
[16:29] <ikonia> repozitor: you don't
[16:29] <ikonia> repozitor: you are not vmware
[16:29] <robinmholt> repozitor: vmware uses a vmnet adapter whcih creates a virtual adapter with a different MAC.
[16:30] <Armok> On infinality, it seems unlikely to work because chrome is using it's own custom font renderer right?
[16:30] <ikonia> repozitor: and even then, it will use the physical cards mac
[16:30] <Armok> because html5 and svg manipulation and stuff.
[16:30] <robinmholt> ikonia: There are some example ethernet loopback-ish adapters you can find on the internet.
[16:30] <tmro> CorySimmons: figured out my problem with 10.04 i386. if you have trouble sharing folders with host ping me
[16:30] <repozitor> ikonia, creating virtual hard is hard or very hard?
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> Armok: ahh if its that then yeah. thts down to chrome itself
[16:30] <ikonia> repozitor: why are you doing this, what's your end goal
[16:31] <repozitor> needing a good solution to make it
[16:31] <robinmholt> ikonia: Sorry, that was meant for repozitor.
[16:31] <sm_> Has anyone any experience with HotSpot WiFi on Ubuntu?
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | sm_
[16:32] <sm_> !details
[16:32] <repozitor> ikonia, i some part of my project i need to create 2 diff interface with diff MAC
[16:32] <Pessimist> sm_, there are a lot of tutorials on the Internet so you can try them and ask us for help if something goes wrong
[16:33] <sm_> hitsujiTMO: I didin't think that anybody even noticed my message that's why i said "anyone".
[16:33] <nashant> How do I disable the 10 second grub boot delay, and can I still get to the grub menu by holding shift if I do so?
[16:33] <repozitor> robinmholt, how loopback can have 2 MAC?
[16:33] <sm_> Pessimist: That's what I'm trying to DO...
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: then use virtual machines
[16:33] <Armok> so either I'm wrong abaut chrome, or the problem is not geting it the right font file or other such thing, or the problem is chromium for linux being different from google chrome for windows. However ff has the exact same isue so i'm not sure
[16:33] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, virtual machine overhead is so so great!
[16:33] <vbgunz> nothing I do gets me to keep my mic settings the way I set them. I can set them ok but they only change in memory. after rebooting, my mic is set to rear and is as low as 9%. it's a bit upsetting to have to change this every time
[16:33] <Stark7> is xubuntu fully supported as with ubuntu by canonical/mark?
[16:34] <Pessimist> Stark7, yes
[16:34] <Pessimist> Stark7, it's just a different desktop environment
[16:34] <Unforgiven> by canonical/mark , ;_;
[16:35] <k1l> Stark7: what do you mean "by mark"?
[16:35] <repozitor> robinmholt, needing more detail about your solution.
[16:35] <repozitor> now your idea make me no sense
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> sm_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode
[16:35] <Armok> I think it's the font file, I vaguely remember trying it in Wine and still haivng the issue althou thatMIGHT have been a dream.
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: xubunu is a supported derivative of ubuntu
[16:35] <k1l> Stark7: its a community maintained official derivate
[16:35] <sm_> I have problem with hostapd as it wont start correctly. Error: Failed to create interface mon.wlan0: -23 (Too many open files in system). hitsujiTMO: Wont work.
[16:35] <yacc_> Any idea how to migrate GRUB to a new system disk? Will grub stop working if I change the numbering of the hdds (e.g. move the HDD from /dev/sdc to being /dev/sda)?
[16:35] <Stark7> Pessimist, i know that but in the ubuntu home page it says "Recognised"
[16:36] <Stark7> k1l, um the creator of Ubuntu
[16:36] <yacc_> (moving the filesystems is a non issue with LVM, but making the new system hdd bootable is what is making me scratch my head, ...)
[16:37] <k1l> Stark7: yes, but what do you think? do you think mark codes the stuff for xubuntu himself? :)
[16:37] <k1l> Stark7: as i said: its a community maintained official derivate. most packages it uses are supported by ubuntu )canonical)
[16:37] <Stark7> k1l, so the devs at xubuntu don't get paid by canonical right? sorry for so many q's
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: ok, why do you think you need multiple macs exactly?
[16:38] <Stark7> k1l, no but the security patches and stuff
[16:38] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, i want to donig my network exersice!
[16:39] <k1l> Stark7: i am not aware of who are the main devs from xubuntu and if they to their work in their spare time or if they get paid from whoever. you could ask that in #xubuntu
[16:39] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, in this exercise i should create 2 separate interface with different MAC, and arping them!
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: if you require multiple macs then use virtual machines/virtual adapters.
[16:39] <wadechandler> Is anyone else using multiple displays, recently installed updates, and having an issue where the unity launcher will not show on the monitor/display which is not the main one when auto-hide is turned on?
[16:39] <yacc_> hitsujiTMO, that's actually doable with ip route tools, but I have to admit that I forgot how I did that, ...
[16:39] <k1l> Stark7: as i said: most packages are the ubuntu packages, which have ubuntu support anyway. only the extra xfce stuff is what the xubuntu comunity has to handle
[16:40] <repozitor> virtual machine are not good idea, but can you tell me how virtual adapter works?
[16:40] <wadechandler> Just started happening after recent updates the past couple days.
[16:40] <repozitor> and which command create a virtual adapter in linux?
[16:40] <yacc_> hitsujiTMO, used it once to get multiple IPs assigned from a DHCP server, ...
[16:40] <fer755> repozitor or vlan
[16:40] <repozitor> fer755, vlan is virtual LAN?
[16:40] <compdoc> virtual machines are a great idea, but maybe you just dont need them
[16:40] <fer755> repozitor yeah
[16:41] <Javico> Hola muchachos ._.
[16:41] <Javico> Brochachos
[16:41] <fer755> sdrasvitsie Javico!
[16:41] <Javico> fer ! :D
[16:41] <Javico> xd
[16:42] <Stark7> k1l, well i have no doubt about package compatibility but concerned more about security updates
[16:42] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, waiting for you solution
[16:42] <Javico> Nadie habla español ? .-.
[16:42] <yacc_> repozitor, google is your friend
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: i already said. use virtual machines with virtual adapters
[16:42] <yacc_> repozitor, http://superuser.com/questions/382169/create-a-virtual-network-interface-using-the-iproute2-ip-link-command-with-a-s
[16:43] <yacc_> hitsujiTMO, overkill ;)
[16:43] <k1l> !es | Javico
[16:43] <repozitor> yacc_, thanks
[16:44] <Javico> No hay nadie en el Ubuntu-es :c
[16:44] <Javico> Anyone Know How Install the Drivers ?
[16:44] <fer755> mala suerte
[16:44] <Javico> I have a ATI Radeon Xpress , but , i cant play in steam >:c
[16:45] <Javico> Ah LOL
[16:45] <Javico> xd
[16:45] <Javico> Si lo śe xd
[16:45] <wadechandler> Does anyone have the link to Ubuntu Jira/Bugzilla/or whatever the project is using to file and search for issues?
[16:45] <wadechandler> thanks
[16:46] <k1l> !launchpad | wadechandler
[16:46] <rookie_> hello
[16:46] <sakter12> hello!
[16:46] <wadechandler> thanks
[16:46] <fer755> hello rookie_
[16:46] <rookie_> i need some hel
[16:46] <rookie_> help
[16:46] <Javico> Español ? xd
[16:47] <yacc_> it's fascinating what a stock Linux kernel can do network wise, when configured with iproute, one has to wonder why ifconfig & friends are still around after a decade.
[16:47] <Javico> Chicos , tengo hambre , Alguna idea de que comer ? c:
[16:47] <rookie_> installed ubuntu but internet doesnt work
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> yacc_: i wouldn't consider it overkill. I'd never do such experimenting on my dev box. I always use a vm for such toying around
[16:48] <Javico> I have Xubuntu , and My Drivers Doesnt Work >:c
[16:48] <rookie_> anyone?
[16:48] <sm_> I need help with: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/685fab5afa13550599d8
[16:48] <Javico> Connect the internet Bro :B
[16:49] <fer755> yacc_ i cant uninstall avahi and make my net working whit "that" friends.
[16:49] <rookie_> i connected the ethernet but doesnt work eithr
[16:50] <yacc_> hitsujiTMO, well, it depends what you want, anyway, for switching to different IP addresses depending upon destination veth worked fine enough ;)
[16:51] <yacc_> And I have to admit that I was slightly tempted to DoS the DHCP server just for the fun of it, ...
[16:51] <sm_> yacc_: Which DHCP server? :D
[16:51] <sm_> Your ISP?
[16:51] <rookie_> anyone?
[16:51] <sm_> rookie_: ?
[16:52] <rookie_> wireless card isnt working after installed ubuntu
[16:52] <yacc_> sm_, office DHCP server, to see if the guys are clever enough to figure out which port caused the pain ;)
[16:52] <sm_> rookie_: External or integraded?
[16:52] <sm_> yacc_: :D
[16:52] <rookie_> neither
[16:53] <sm_> rookie_: Then what?
[16:53] <rookie_> wireless and ethernet
[16:53] <sm_> rookie_: Hooked up with what?
[16:53] <rookie_> ethernet cable
[16:53] <sm_> USB, Integraded cards?
[16:53] <rookie_> yes sorry integrated
[16:54] <rookie_> worked fine before ubuntu
[16:54] <sm_> rookie_: Try executing this command on the machine in question: lspci
[16:54] <sm_> Does it show up any network related things?
[16:55] <rookie_> something about broadcom corporation
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> !bcm | rookie_
[16:56] <sm_> What about: ifconfig?
[16:57] <rookie_> let me try the link
[16:57] <sm_> Okey.
[16:57] <yacc_> sm_, actually the experiment had a valid background, if I post on the internal "anonymous" "feedback to the Board" forum, I prefer to do it from a mac address that is nowhere in the IT databases ;)
[16:58] <sm_> yacc_: I'm not sure why you pinged me on that message...
[16:58] <yacc_> sm_, you asked what DHCP server :-P
[16:59] <sm_> yacc_: Oh, for that. :)
[16:59] <yacc_> sm_, so there are very practically use cases for just wanting to run a PC with two different mac addresses on one physical eth device ;)
[16:59] <sm_> Indeed.
[17:01] <master_op> hello, please help, my ubuntu 13.04 connection is very slow using chrome, firefox, opera
[17:01] <fer755> yacc_ eth devices what is this?
[17:02] <fer755> yacc_ eth0 ? that reference?
[17:02] <spearhead_> Fer755, ethernet device
[17:03] <fer755> spearhead_ a ok!
[17:04] <rookie_> didnt work says unable to locate firmwareb43 installer'
[17:04] <yacc_> fer755, eth devices as in "Ethernet devices", and yes, their default names in Linux are ethN. Using udev (which internally uses iproute btw to do the work) one can also rename them.
[17:05] <yacc_> fer755, so on my box, I've got a "wan" device, a "lan" bridge that by default consists of the "laneth" device, and so on ;)
[17:06] <nick_swe> Hi! I tried installing ElementaryOS on my Windows Surface Pro tablet this morning and during installation it prompted that GRUB failed to install, then the installation aborted automatically and I was forwarded to the Live desktop. After rebooting I am now only reaching the GRUB Minimal BASH-like command line. On the PC I also have Windows 8 that I really need to get in to. How to solve this?
[17:06] <nick_swe> Also, I have a Ubuntu Live USB but the PC ignores it completely during boot and directly goes in to the GRUB command line. I am completely lost here
[17:06] <spearhead_> Fer755, you can see all your network connections and their names by typing ifconfig -a in a terminal
[17:06] <fer755> yacc_ like mine is on erp1leOO
[17:07] <yacc_> fer755, interesting name ;)
[17:08] <ekristen> why doesn’t dpkg-buildpackge download build dependencies?
[17:08] <fer755> yacc_ can be any name or no?
[17:08] <un4v0w3d> Anyone willing to help me, I installed xubuntu to an external hard disk's partition. Install reports no errors, yet never seems to boot. Not sure where I need to start diagnostics. Also not sure what info you would like IE partition table GPT, file system ext4, mounted to /
[17:08] <sm_> My problem: https://gist.github.com/samip5/9855e10bb99269475b04
[17:09] <yacc_> fer755, yeah, you can rename them, but MOST drivers name them by default ethN. The next second biggest group would be probably wlanN, and nowadays with Android tethering, I guess usbN is getting popular, ...
[17:09] <fer755> spearhead_ uhh i guessing like may have done some avahi -a to do that
[17:10] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: Sounds like you need to set your firmware's boot order (or use a on-time boot option) to boot the external disk, but I don't know what your hardware is.
[17:10] <yacc_> robinmholt, some MS Surface Pro tablet, ...
[17:10] <yacc_> Just a lucky guess, ...
[17:10] <fer755> spearhead no sense. ironic comment the last.
[17:11] <yacc_> robinmholt,  No sorry, seems to be different people ;(
[17:11] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, boot order is USB, CD, HD. I have a thumb drive with xubuntu that does boot USB.
[17:11] <robinmholt> yacc_: I was staying away from the Surface discussion.  Never even touched one of those.
[17:12] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: Who manufactured the device?  What model is it?
[17:12] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, re: on-time boot option... do you mean like pressing f12 to manually select USB boot option?
[17:12] <spearhead_> Robinmholt, I never want to touch one...
[17:12] <Richhh> possible to change default terminal window size in lubuntu?
[17:13] <Richhh> (would prefer smaller)
[17:13] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: Yes, for mine, when an eSATA device is plugged in, I press F10 and select that device as the boot device.
[17:13] <yacc_> robinmholt, the whole UEFI & Secureboot thing stinks, especially as manufacturers start to get slightly sloppy sometimes, ...
[17:13] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, Toshiba Satellite C650
[17:13] <kostkon> Richhh, create a new profile and set it as the default or edit the default profile
[17:13] <kostkon> Richhh, oh... lubuntu..
[17:14] <Richhh> yeah
[17:14] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, I did try pressing f12 which beings me to the boot option menu, however selecting USB still does not work. It just bypasses and goes to windows on the internal hard disk
[17:14] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: How is the external drive attached?  USB?
[17:15] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, Yes
[17:15] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, USB
[17:15] <kostkon> Richhh, edit its desktop file, set the --geometry option http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/en/man1/lxterminal.1.html
[17:16] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: OK.  Does the device support legacy boot or UEFI only?
[17:17] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, As far as I can tell it should support UEFI, there is a UEFI folder in the windows boot folder. Exact path I would have to dig up again
[17:17] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: As a first guess, you have a legacy boot loader installed and a BIOS trying to boot UEFI (or vice versa).  Try switching the BIOS setup from UEFI to CSM or vice-versa and see if that works.
[17:18] <yangm_> any tips on using Ubuntu on a slow HD?
[17:18] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: This thread of discussion might be helpful.  http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/64755-63-toshiba-satellite-boot
[17:18] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, Okay, I'll go give that a shot. Thanks!
[17:18] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, I'll check it out also, thank you!
[17:19] <fer755> yangm_ how RAM u have?
[17:19] <fico> dikkk
[17:19] <fico> seggarc
[17:19] <yangm_> fer755: 8GB
[17:20] <yangm_> already disabled swap but I still get lots of grey screens
[17:20] <Richhh> kostkon: how can i make that work for C-Alt-T?
[17:20] <yangm_> is it possible to load the whole system in RAM?
[17:20] <fer755> yangm_ uhmm may be a mount of image on ram can work , but dunno if 8G its enought.
[17:21] <yangm_> fer755: my HD has 8GB also
[17:21] <kostkon> Richhh, no idea. you have tested it already and didn't work?
[17:21] <goingtologic> Should ubuntu automatically set a nic at 1000 speed if its capable? Or do I need to explicitly run ethtool?
[17:22] <fer755> yangm_ dunno how, but i know u can.
[17:23] <spearhead_> Goingtologic, the speed is set by the nic and it will automatically be set to the speed of the slowest device on the network
[17:23] <yangm_> fer755: my machine is a 2011 13" MacBook Pro which I'using a usb-installed ubuntu on a flashdrive because my internal sata cable broke and I was tired of carrying the HD and 1000 cables around
[17:24] <goingtologic> spearhead_: By network do you mean either side of the link?
[17:24] <goingtologic> I dont think ot probes the netire subnet for the slowest device
[17:25] <spearhead_> Goingtologic,  yes it does
[17:25] <fer755> yangm_ flashdrive is slow?
[17:26] <spearhead_> Goingtologic,  slowest device on the subnet sets the speed that subnet operates on
[17:26] <ActionPa1snip> yangm_: could replace the sata cable....
[17:26] <gerrym12> ciao a tutti
[17:26] <yangm_> fer755: i think it is the main root of this non responsiveness, it have 15MB read speed
[17:27] <gpicchiarelli> gerrym12: ciao, questo è il gruppo inglese suppongo (english)
[17:27] <yangm_> ActionPa1snip: yeah, if apple didn't make it proprietary and expensive
[17:27] <ActionPa1snip> yangm_: well, you bought a mac didn't you....
[17:28] <yangm_> ActionPa1snip: hey I'm not made of money
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> yangm_: you bought a mac, you must be
[17:28] <yangm_> and no, I didn't bought it, a friend gave it to me
[17:29] <fer755> yangm_ aa ok usb stick drive. damn even cell phones now has sun disks pretty sad.
[17:30] <fer755> yangm_ all tech advanced and stucked in slow hdds
[17:30] <goingtologic> spearhead_: Where is the documentation for this?
[17:30] <yangm_> fer755: mine is from a generic manufacter, don't know how it even works xD
[17:31] <fer755> yangm_ u cant buy and replace your broken hhd?
[17:31] <fer755> *hdd
[17:32] <yangm_> fer755: my hdd is not broken, the mobo sata cable is
[17:32] <yangm_> also I can't find it anywhere where I live, I think I will need to ebay it...
[17:33] <sharif> need my ubuntu laptop bug commend
[17:34] <sharif> need my ubuntu laptop bug commend
[17:34] <sharif> help me
[17:35] <spearhead_> Goingtologic,  http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonegotiation
[17:35] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, I do not have any option like that in my bios.
[17:35] <sharif> need my ubuntu laptop bug commend
[17:37] <spearhead_> !details | sharif
[17:37] <spearhead_> !patience | sharif
[17:37] <steve_fi> is there any way for me when I boot from the liveusb to save the debug file when I put drm.debug=0xe into grub?
[17:37] <Richhh> kostkon: yeah, didnt work for the shortcut, never mind thanks anyway
[17:37] <kostkon> Richhh, ok
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> !ubuntu-bd | maybe try here if your english isn't very good
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> !bd | sharif maybe try here if your english isn't very good
[17:40] <belgianguy> is there a way to alter the systray's date format without changing the valuta, too? (through Language Support)
[17:41] <belgianguy> it seems Numbers, Dates and Valuta are dependent on one setting
[17:42] <neglesaks> someone tell Maxuma to stop spamming users on join
[17:43] <yangm_> is there something like task manager in ubuntu?
[17:43] <tr0n> use rop
[17:43] <tr0n> top
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> neglesaks: what spam is it?
[17:43] <spearhead_> Goingtologic, does that make sense?
[17:43] <neglesaks> quoting : " <Maxuma> */server irc bahane net "
[17:44] <fer755> yangm_ ps -A
[17:44] <belgianguy> yangm_: htop
[17:44] <fer755> yangm_ and kill task numbre
[17:44] <streulma> have a few questions, may I ask?
[17:44] <merandus> Hello. Is it possible to install the needed packages of a specific package, without installing the package itself? I want to download the latest version myself, the stable version is very old. but it has more than 20 needed packages which apt-get can install them.
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> neglesaks: report in #ubuntu-ops
[17:45] <spearhead_> !ask | streulma
[17:45] <fer755> *number
[17:46] <apb1963> is it safe to remove pulse audio?
[17:46] <yangm_> did top and then killall the proccess name, thanks for everyone who helped me out
[17:46] <streulma> I'm a little bit new to Ubuntu desktop, did not know which programs to use, I'm looking for an alternative to my Apple
[17:46] <tr0n> try macbuntu
[17:46] <gordonjcp> streulma: apple what?
[17:46] <spearhead_> Streulma, what are you trying to do?
[17:46] <streulma> Is there a way to install some Windows fonts? and apply them  to firefox?
[17:47] <streulma> so Facebook looks like Windows or Apple font
[17:47] <spearhead_> !fonts
[17:48] <streulma> also do not know what to install, Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10
[17:48] <tr0n> 13.10
[17:48] <belgianguy> any idea on systray date formatting without also altering the valuta/number formatting in Ubuntu?
[17:48] <streulma> tr0n, 13.10, for a few months to go :)
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> streulma: eith at this stage as you will most likely want to upgrade to 14.04 in 3 months
[17:49] <streulma> or install trusty desktop daily build ?
[17:49] <streulma> I'm looking for a stable one
[17:49] <streulma> yes trusty is not stable now ;)
[17:49] <spearhead_> 13.10 is the latest stable version
[17:49] <gordonjcp> streulma: if you want stable, go for LTS
[17:50] <gordonjcp> that's *really* stable, and will remain so
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> belgianguy: System Settings -> Date + Time Settings -> clock
[17:51] <spearhead_> Streulma, like gordonjcp said if you want really stable go with 12.04 it will be supported for another 3 years
[17:51] <Maxuma> [ U y a r ý ] : spearhead_  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[17:51] <tr0n> !english
[17:52] <streulma> spearhead_: yes, but is 13.10 not stable with more features ?
[17:53] <streulma> should I disable hud internet search ?
[17:53] <tr0n> the ads? yea
[17:54] <streulma> tr0n how, in system settings?
[17:54] <streulma> then I have another question, should I partition, 8 Swap, 30 / and rest /home ?
[17:54] <spearhead_> Streulma, the end user won't be able to tell too much of a difference... If you want 13.10 then install it it is stable then I would suggest upgrading to 14.04 when it comes out. 14.04 is the next long term support release
[17:55] <streulma> then another question, in English or my own language?
[17:55] <tr0n> fixubuntu.com has the command
[17:55] <Myrtti> stable
[17:56] <tr0n> english
[17:56] <gion> ciao
[17:56] <Korvin> How can I update my sources to use osuosl only?
[17:56] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: I don't have many more guesses.  Sorry.
[17:56] <Korvin> from cli
[17:56] <spearhead_> Streulma,  I would suggest about 200mb partition for  /boot, 2 gb for swap, 30 gb for / and the rest for /home
[17:57] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, thanks
[17:58] <streulma> thanks tr0n for fixubuntu
[17:58] <tr0n> np
[17:58] <spearhead_> Streulma, you can change the language http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/local-language
[18:04] <ClientAlive> I installed mysql to a different port than the default and now I can't remember what port that was. How can I find out?
[18:05] <spearhead_> Nmap the server's ip
[18:05] <fer755> ClientAlive read in config file under /etc/mysql.conf i guess
[18:05] <streulma> ClientAlive: /etc/mysql/my.cnf ?
[18:05] <robinmholt> ClientAlive: check /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> ClientAlive: cat /etc/mysql/my.cnf | grep port
[18:05] <robinmholt> ClientAlive: You can also look at netstat -anp | grep mysql
[18:05] <ClientAlive> sweet!
[18:05] <ClientAlive> thx
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> can't      lsof -i             see that?
[18:07] <Pici> robinmholt: you'd need sudo for the netstat command :)
[18:10] <wachpwnski> I keep getting this? cp: failed to extend `/tmp/mkinitramfs_gTYCR4//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libuuid.so.1': No space left on device
[18:10] <wachpwnski> why is it trying to put it in tmp?
[18:10] <fer755> MonkeyDust miss one parameter 4 or 6 lsof -i x
[18:10] <wachpwnski> When I try to apt-get install
[18:11] <spearhead_> Wachpwnski, how full is your drive?
[18:11] <belgianguy> hitsujiTMO: Hi, in there I cannot find a way to switch eg MM DD to DD MM
[18:11] <_KaszpiR_> wachpwnski df -h
[18:11] <belgianguy> (date format change)
[18:12] <wachpwnski> i have free space 4 gigs now
[18:12] <wachpwnski> but /tmp only has 1.0M for some reason
[18:12] <wachpwnski> should I reboot maybe?
[18:12] <_KaszpiR_> no
[18:12] <_KaszpiR_> run this
[18:12] <_KaszpiR_> du -sh /tmp
[18:12] <wachpwnski> 1.0M	/tmp
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> belgianguy: i see. maybe try setting the locale ?
[18:13] <_KaszpiR_> df -h /tmp
[18:13] <spearhead_> _KaszpiR_, what does the du command do?
[18:13] <wachpwnski> overflow        1.0M  1.0M     0 100% /tmp
[18:13] <gimmic> disk usage
[18:13] <_KaszpiR_> spearhead disk usage
[18:13] <spearhead_> K thx
[18:13] <belgianguy> hitsujiTMO: It changes when I change the Language Support setting to a different language for Numbers,Date,Valuta
[18:13] <belgianguy> but I only want to change the date :/
[18:14] <wachpwnski> my drive was full I just cleaned it and free'd 4 gigs
[18:14] <CorySimmons> Hey guys, I'm new to Ubuntu and I'm trying to try out this script option, but I'm not exactly sure how to read the command's syntax docs located here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/pstoedit.1.html
[18:14] <_KaszpiR_> wachpwnski show us: mount
[18:14] <gimmic> wachpwnski: what does df -h /tmp show?
[18:14] <_KaszpiR_> paste it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:14] <CorySimmons> Basically I want to run `pstoedit plot-svg my_file.ai my_file.svg`
[18:14] <gimmic> because it looks like it is mounted only as a 1MB tmp
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> belgianguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale try setting the LANG and LANGUAGE as what they are now, but LC_DATE as whatever date format you prefer
[18:14] <gimmic> ah, yeah.. show mount
[18:15] <wachpwnski> http://pastebin.com/Yk8SpPL1
[18:15] <wachpwnski> probably because my disk was full on startup :/
[18:15] <_KaszpiR_> ah
[18:15] <belgianguy> hitsujiTMO: ah, that looks like what I need! Thank you!
[18:15] <_KaszpiR_> no, your tmp is a tmpfs
[18:15] <_KaszpiR_> change mount point, then
[18:16] <_KaszpiR_> show us: cat /etc/fstab
[18:16] <andreric> Hi! How to download files of a website that starts with the same string using terminal?
[18:17] <tr0n> wget
[18:17] <wachpwnski> _KaszpiR_:  one second
[18:17] <_KaszpiR_> second passed
[18:17] <_KaszpiR_> nest!
[18:17] <_KaszpiR_> *nest!
[18:17] <wachpwnski> next!
[18:17] <_KaszpiR_> baaaah, joke failed
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> wachpwnski: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab
[18:17] <wachpwnski> hitsujiTMO: can't install anything disk full it was saying
[18:18] <_KaszpiR_> ;D
[18:18] <_KaszpiR_> yep
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> wachpwnski: ahh :P
[18:18] <andreric> Ok <tr0n>. But and I try wget appears 403 Forbidden
[18:19] <_KaszpiR_> andreric it may be blocked because user agens or you are missing a cookie
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> andreric: if you get a 404 then that site doens't allow hotlinks. you prob need to specificy a user agent or refferrer
[18:20] <jacob_> does anyone know if there is a working alternative to flash player?
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> or 403 i should say
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> jacob_: chromes pepper flash player
[18:20] <tr0n> theres flash for linux/ubuntu
[18:21] <knightshade> jacob_: html5
[18:21] <knightshade> jacob_: html5
[18:21] <andreric> Ok <hitsujiTMO>. And how I do this?
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> andreric:  --user-agent= for user agent and --referer= for refferer
[18:22] <iceroot> jacob_: gnash
[18:23] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. i have a 2tb drive on which i store my music; so far i only use a 500GB partition - but this is getting full. are there any serious pros/cons re: expanding the current partition or creating a second 500GB (for example) partition on the same drive  to add more music?
[18:23] <buklau> hello everyone, i need to update my driver, i downloaded a .tar.bz2, how do i build and install this?
[18:23] <gion> list !
[18:24] <gmachine_24> buklau what is the driver for
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: untar it and then read the README
[18:25] <buklau> gmachine_24, its for my wifi card, it keeps disconnecting and i downloaded the latest version from the realtek website'
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: wat type of filesystem is it?
[18:25] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: well......... either ext3 or ext4
[18:26] <buklau> gmachine_24, it keeps disconnecting from the wifi**
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: expand away. should be no issue
[18:26] <gion> arrivederci
[18:26] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, i dont know how to do that
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: tar -xf driver.tar.bz2
[18:28] <gmachine_24> 	
[18:28] <gmachine_24> To unzip a file that is only compressed with bz2 use
[18:28] <gmachine_24> bunzip2 filename.bz2
[18:28] <gmachine_24> to unzip things thar are compressed with .tar.bz2 use
[18:28] <FloodBot1> gmachine_24: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, tar: r8101-1.024.00.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[18:28] <buklau> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[18:29] <austinchilders> Hello! I am having trouble getting good transfer speeds over my gigabit LAN. When copying files with either Samba or NFS the file transfer maxes out at 8.5 MB/s yet when i test the network with iperf i am getting speeds of 940 Mb/s and the hard drive is not the problem because i have internal transfer speeds of ~150 MB/s on my server. Any help is appreciated, I'm running out of ideas.
[18:29] <gmachine_24> austinchilders: are you cutting and pasting or using the command line........
[18:30] <austinchilders> cutting and pasting
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: are you in the same folder as the archive?
[18:30] <gmachine_24> austinchilders: I use the command line. Infinitely faster.
[18:30] <gmachine_24> and I apologize for my bot flood thing; rookie error on my part
[18:30] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, tar -xf r8101-1.024.00.tar.bz2, thats all i ran, am i supposed to use cd /home/documents/downloads then run it?
[18:31] <austinchilders> i didn't think it would make that big of a difference, and I need for non technical people to be able to access files on my sever
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: cd Downloads
[18:31] <gmachine_24> buklau: to run that you must be in the correct directory
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: then run it
[18:31] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, gmachine_24 , will do
[18:31] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: ... didn't mean to step on your toes
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: :P np
[18:32] <gmachine_24> austinchilders: I don't pretend to know WHY it makes a difference but, for me at least, the difference is .. big
[18:33] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, i didnt do anything, it just put me to the next libe
[18:33] <sergio-br2> hello
[18:33] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, no wait it made another folder
[18:33] <gmachine_24> buklau: did you try tar -xvjpf filename.tar.bz2
[18:34] <gmachine_24> sergio-br2: state your business
[18:34] <sergio-br2> someone, how can i reset xorg files? I installed nvidia driver, got a problem, purge it, and now i can't go to login screen. Command startx does not work too
[18:35] <buklau> gmachine_24,  yea the first one worked, it just made a folder without tar , what do i do after?
[18:35] <Mantissa> Has anyone got the latest catalyst 13.11 beta 9.4 driver working? Everyone had problems installing it on it's initial release.
[18:35] <sakter12> anyone here use a Wacom tablet + Ubuntu?
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> sergio-br2: if you're not using proprietary drivers then just delete the xorg.conf
[18:36] <longshorej> I have /dev/disk2 mounted at /mnt/example, and /dev/disk1 mounted at /. Can I list the contents of /mnt/example as it would exist if /dev/disk2 weren't mounted over it, without unmounting /dev/disk2?
[18:37] <wachpwnski> _KaszpiR_ ok fixed it with a reboot
[18:38] <shreezbot> Anyone know if there is a way to stream a DVD from a Linux box to a media player like the Roku?
[18:38] <wachpwnski> is there something like iobar for linux cli?
[18:39] <wachpwnski> i know there is iostat, but anything visual?
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> longshorej: can you rephrase the question
[18:40] <_KaszpiR_> wachpwnski iotop, but its just text, no bars
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> longshorej: or do you mean can you list the mount moint?
[18:40] <streulma> how can I make an USB stick so it boots on Macbook ?
[18:40] <Maxuma> [ U y a r ý ] : streulma  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[18:40] <longshorej> mounting a disk over an existing directory, is there any way to access the contents of the directory I mounted over without unmounting the new disk?
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> longshorej: that i don't know, or think is possible
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> longshorej: you prob could if the orinal dir was hard linked or bound somewhere else
[18:42] <longshorej> hitsujiTMO: Ah, I can mount the original disk to another point to do this
[18:42] <StevenXL> Hi everyone. I am trying to add a permanent alias to my bash profile, but it doesn't seem to load. I have edited .bashrc so that it loads a .bash_aliases file, and I have included the aliases I want in that file.
[18:42] <Maxuma> [ U y a r ý ] : StevenXL  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[18:42] <StevenXL> Am I missing something?
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> StevenXL: how are you loading the .bash_aliases
[18:43] <gmachine_24> shreezbot: do you want to know about any media player or Roku specifically..........
[18:43] <guest______> I have multiple users on my computer, with one user having sudo priveledges. How can I backup everyone's home directory and have permissions to restore each file?
[18:43] <shreezbot> gmachine_24, Well, I'm personally working with a Roku...  :)
[18:43] <StevenXL> hitsujiTMO, I am just typing in lxterminal into the run dialog (F2)
[18:44] <guest______> I tried to backup with deja dup all home directories with the administrator, but I can't restore the files as it says that I don't have permissions.
[18:44] <Maxuma> [ U y a r ý ] : guest______  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> StevenXL: but how exactly are you calling .bash_aliases ???
[18:45] <StevenXL> this is what my .bash_aliases file contains: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6716372/
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> StevenXL: or are you even callint it at all?
[18:45] <StevenXL> hitsujiTMO, this is what .bashrc contains: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6716383/
[18:46] <StevenXL> hitsujiTMO, I am calling it using what was the default in the .bashrc file. I actually didn't edit the .bashrc file at all.
[18:48] <buklau> how do u unload your old driver?
[18:49] <StevenXL> hitsujiTMO, I have to go; sorry.
[18:49] <StevenXL> exit
[18:50] <gmachine_24> shreezbot: I have a Roku and I don't know how to do anything other than stream from a Windows media server and I have Linux servers as well. My biggest problem with Roku is the small number of formats that it is conpatible with - but that's another story.
[18:50] <buklau> how do i unload my old driver?
[18:50] <andreric> How to configure wget to do not remove rejected files?
[18:51] <shreezbot> gmachine_24, Right now I pretty much just use Ples Media Server, and it seems to work really well for me.  I currently have a HTPC that I use for streaming video and playing DVDs, but I'm hoping to get rid of that PC.  If I could stream a DVD to the Roku, I could do just that...
[18:52] <gmachine_24> shreezbot: Chromecast has the same limitations. Someone will either add support for other codes to existing boxes or come up with a hack for it; re-encoding videos is boring.
[18:53] <shreezbot> gmachine_24, Indeed it is!  :)
[18:53] <buklemickbuk> how do i unload driver?
[18:53] <knightshade> longshorej: you can use mount --bind to mount the underlying filesystem a second time
[18:53] <gmachine_24> buklau, can you past the link to the Web site where you downloaded the bz2 file please?
[18:53] <gmachine_24> *paste
[18:53] <buklemickbuk> gmachine_24,  k
[18:54] <gmachine_24> buklemickbuk: are you buklau?
[18:54] <buklemickbuk> gmachine_24, yes
[18:55] <buklemickbuk> gmachine_24, and here is your link. http://www.realtek.com.tw/DOWNLOADS/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=7&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[18:55]  * henry___ is away: Ich bin beschäftigt
[18:56] <aditya> Hi... Can someone give some opinion on this bug... Who is the proper person to whom I can notify about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/1241894
[18:57] <gmachine_24> shreezbot: have you tried roku forums? I'd check there if you haven't.
[18:57] <shreezbot> Yea, I've made a post on the reddit forums for Roku
[18:57] <daftykins> lol reddit
[18:59] <knightshade> aditya: Mark Shuttleworth.
[19:00] <buklemickbuk> gmachine_24, any suggestions?
[19:00] <aditya> knightshade: haha.. anyone else... I don't want to disturb him for this... Let him achieve the objective of convergence.. :)
[19:02] <gmachine_24> buklemickbuk: we should talk about this through irc's private msgs or whatever you call them
[19:04] <trism> aditya: do you see any errors if you run it from the command line? I'm seeing the graph/values updating here
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> aditya: the package maintainers will automatically get notified. no need to go finding them
[19:06] <aditya> trism: Ther is one warning
[19:06] <aditya> ** (gnome-system-monitor:3361): WARNING **: SELinux was found but is not enabled.
[19:07] <trism> aditya: yeah I get that too, so probably not an issue
[19:07] <aditya> hitsujiTMO: I had filed this bug more than 2 months ago - haven't heard anything from them..
[19:11] <enen92> very noob question. I've build openssl from sources to a specific directory. How can I run openssl from that directory instead of the one I've installed in the system?
[19:13]  * henry___ is back (gone 00:17:50)
[19:13] <andreric> Hi! How to configure wget to do not remove rejected files?
 He is saving files but removing them because them are being rejected. But I want to acess information offered by these files that are being deleted.
[19:14] <andreric> Hi! How to configure wget to do not remove rejected files? He is saving files but removing them because them are being rejected. But I want to acess information offered by these files that are being deleted.
[19:15] <rickayla> hey
[19:16] <spearhead_> !patience | andreric
[19:16] <rickayla> max sendq haw
[19:16] <rickayla> who ropa
[19:17] <rickayla> vhnfcj
[19:17] <rickayla> hgfvyjfd
[19:17] <rickayla> gkjfgfdvxc
[19:17] <rickayla> bhfvr
[19:17] <rickayla> jbgvhfdrt
[19:17] <FloodBot1> rickayla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 <ubottu>. I was just correting the text formatting of my question.
[19:19] <spearhead_> Andreric, I understand, but all the information was in the original, no need to repeat yourself
[19:19] <gdeeble> I compiled mediatomb to include spider monkey, but now I can't get it to boot with the system. Anyone have a tutorial I can look at to get this fixed?
[19:20] <ikonia> gdeeble: boot with the system ?
[19:22] <gdeeble> ikonia: Sorry start up at boot. I'm running a headless server and would prefer that I don't have to log in to launch it if I shutdown/restart for some reason.
[19:23] <ikonia> gdeeble: how have you set it to start up at boot
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> gdeeble: download the src from the repo. have a look at the sysv init/upstart script in there
[19:24] <gdeeble> ikonia: I tried update-rc.d mediatomb defaults 99 and it shows in the RC but doesn't launch it
[19:24] <ikonia> gdeeble: yes, because YOU compiled it
[19:24] <ikonia> gdeeble: so that script will be for the packaged version
[19:24] <ikonia> gdeeble: so unless you compiled it exactly the same layout as the package it won't work
[19:24] <A_Paternoster> Hallo Ubuntu World :) I've a problem with newrez. When I try to set a new resolution (with the default resolution 1366x768 too), the screen lost its focus.... It is not clear... :( Can you help me ? Have you an idea ? Thanks :)
[19:26] <trijntje> why is skype sound so crappy on ubuntu?
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: what sound driver?
[19:26] <tevez> ciao a tutti
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> tevez: dont !list or i kill yoyu
[19:27] <tevez> !list
[19:27] <gdeeble> ikonia: I'm still new with this stuff, so what you're saying is the init.d file isn't correct?
[19:27] <tevez> ciao a tutti
[19:27] <ikonia> gdeeble: init.d isn't used, ubuntu uses upstart
[19:27] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: no idea, just ubuntu default
[19:27] <tevez> !list
[19:28] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: as in what sound driver is your sound card using?
[19:28] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: how can I tell?
[19:29] <spearhead_> Andreric, also I called the bot so it would give you the links to the forum and help pages also man wget would give you more information than I can...
[19:29] <tevez> cioa
[19:29] <tevez> ciao
[19:29] <ikonia> tevez: sorry you can't talk in the channel anymore
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: lspci -knn | grep Audio -A3
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> TriJetScud: should list the kernel driver there
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: ^
[19:31] <gdeeble> ikonia: Ok. So at this point i'm really confused then. What are you recommending?
[19:31] <ikonia> gdeeble: write a valid upstart job
[19:31] <ikonia> gdeeble: use the existing one as a template
[19:31] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: snd_hda_intel
[19:32] <gdeeble> ikonia: I'll check into that from here and get back with you on this. Thank you.
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: think its an issue with the driver and pulseaudio. 2 secs and i'll see if i can find what i did to fix it for myself
[19:34] <GNABBBbB> Hey there! I want to use Pulseaudio over upnp/dlna. I have installed rygel and enabled sharing in paprefs, I also manually started rygel because of the autostart bug. I still cant see the service. Next problem is the firewall: What do I need to allow in iptables for using rygel?
[19:37] <GNABBBbB> hitsujiTMO: whose and which question did you answer? because I spent a lot of time punching pulseaudio around today.
[19:37] <rostam> HI for 12.04 update 3, I need to get vmlinux with debug info and Linux source tree. I want to use it for jtag debugging. Do you know where I can get those? thx
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> GNABBBbB: : crappy sound in skype.
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: am i right in thinking thats its crackling noise?
[19:39] <m57> so does anyone know how to turn off ati Radeon graphics cards in ubuntu? i want to be able to switch them off and on with a command
[19:39] <m57> and just use onboard for display
[19:39] <jhutchins> m57: bumblebee
[19:39] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: no, its just skipping all the time, words only come trough partly
[19:39] <jp-_> is there a way to specify the metric for a gateway in the interfaces file?
[19:39] <m57> iv heard of this before but heard it was a hack ?
[19:40] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[19:40] <GNABBBbB> hitsujiTMO: glad I never used skype.
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: ok, maybe a different issue than what i experienced then. that sounds more like a bandwidth issue then. I presume you've tried it with another OS?
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: also, did you install from the repo or direct from skype site?
[19:42] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: from the repo
[19:44] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[19:46] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: skype works in windows vista on the same pc, though vista is so crappy that i can only use it for a couple of minutes before the pc looses all sound and I have to reboot
[19:46] <PublicStaticVoid> I installed Cinnamon and it doesnt really work, I get no menus or anything.. anyways when I go back to Unity.. I have desktop Icons for "Computer" and such, how do i get rid of them again?
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: must be an issue with the codec it using so. must not be able to optimally decode on your system. is it spouting any info if you run it from the terminal?
[19:49] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure whats wrong, everything works fine with skypes own 'test call'.
[19:50] <trijntje> I guess I should just switch to some FOSS alternative for skype, rather then waste my time with it
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> prob whats best
[19:50] <PublicStaticVoid> Wish I could get Cinnamon to work
[19:51] <PublicStaticVoid> I hate Unity
[19:51] <PublicStaticVoid> When I try using Cinnamon its just loads my background and Desktop Icons
[19:51] <Twnprncss> hello everyone
[19:51] <Allison43> jp, yes, gateway gateway 192.168.X.X
[19:51] <Allison43> err just one gateway
[19:52] <Twnprncss> I am hoping to find some help setting up access to vpn while ssh'ing into a system
[19:52] <Twnprncss> I am not sure how to use command line to configure inet access to route through the vpn
[19:56] <trijntje> PublicStaticVoid: see, unity is better than cinnamon ;) But seriously, have you looked at alternatives such as lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu?
[19:56] <glitsj16> hi people
[19:56] <HellTiger_> hello, i wana have a ubuntu usb stick, can i just use a live creator to usb? will a live ubuntu reset changes even if they made to usb filesystem?
[19:57] <xangua> !persistent  | HellTiger_
[19:57] <HellTiger_> thx!
[19:57] <euclidis> HellTiger_: Yes. I suppose, it cannot be saved anything.
[19:58] <HellTiger_> oh
[19:59] <euclidis> come back to hell, tiger. (kidding)
[19:59] <streulma> oh, that was a bad harddisk :) Ubuntu found it bad, osx not. problem solved with new ssd
[19:59] <compdoc> SSD makes it seem like a new PC
[20:01] <Jogibaer> HellTiger: use UNetbootin
[20:02] <lazarus_> anybody know of any company's within the UK that sell the ubuntu laptop/desktop
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> hey glitsj16
[20:03] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: good news, i got the raid working and everything, only problem is the eth0 card but the guys on here last night told me to get anothe 15$ card to diagnose the problems next time
[20:03] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: hi there
[20:03] <Jogibaer> lazarus_: Dell used to sell laptops with ubuntu
[20:03] <Pici> lazarus_: If you don't get an answer here, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-uk
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sweet
[20:04] <lazarus_> Pici: i really like system76 but import fees kill the viability
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: dell still do on business range
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd
[20:06] <Mindkontrol> Hello everyone
[20:06] <HellTiger_> ok thx joako
[20:06] <Mindkontrol> I am hoping for help using command line to setup vpn
[20:06] <HellTiger_> Jogibaer: i mean
[20:06] <Mindkontrol> Any command line wizards here or can someone point me to better irc channel?
[20:07] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: it could simply be the case of blacklisting the currently used driver too.
[20:07] <PublicStaticVoid> trijntje: I do not like any of the DE/WM that those use..
[20:07] <PublicStaticVoid> I especialy hate KDE
[20:08] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: well i wll try it with you tomorrow, i delt with all this nonsense till two am last night I need one day of rest :) aha, but will you take the time with me next time when itws convinent for you and we will try that?
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> and Xubuntu is XFCE$ right?
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> 4
[20:08] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: I myself really like Unity, but there's also GNOME3, MATE, XFCE
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sure
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> I do like XFCE's Terminal I swear by it
[20:08] <Psil0Cybin> all I know is the people on here hitsujiTMO suggested I get a 15$ card from walmart, to bring in as well so you guys can help me troubleshoot just incase its the hardware, they said the card I was using was garbage and not supported and had alot of bugs.
[20:08] <glitsj16> mojtaba: if you use cups there's cups-pdf you can use as well to print to pdf
[20:08] <Jogibaer> Mondkontrol: how can we help? :)
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> I do not like Mate, it seems like yet another Gnome 2 Fork
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> I like Cinamon
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the card is quite old alright. from 2008 at least.
[20:09] <PublicStaticVoid> Wish I could figure out why it won't work
[20:09] <mobileRoda> oh goodie i made it. someone gave me instructions last week on where to set nomodeset when installing 12.04 from disc,  can soneone give me same info?  im re- installng and none of the online tuts are helping
[20:09] <PublicStaticVoid> But have no idea how to troubleshoot it
[20:09] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: hang on
[20:09] <mojtaba> glitsj16: I have printed a file from browser to my printer, (but without my printer being available), now I want to change the printer via cmd
[20:09] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: perhaps just reinstall from ppa?
[20:09] <Mindkontrol> Jogibaer: I am trying to setup my machine to route all traffic through a vpn
[20:09] <Mindkontrol> Jogibaer: I have to use commandline for this as the box is headless
[20:09] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: gah! lol, what a silly experience, I delt with , just becasue It was bought recently. btw hitsujiTMO  as you can see when I am calm the enter key is the last thing on my mind lol, but why would they put a 2008 card into a brand new computer..gah maybe they did this on purpose because i complained
[20:09] <mojtaba> glitsj16: Also there were no option for print to file, when I initiated the print job.
[20:09] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: I tried that on 13.10 but I guess it is worth a try
[20:10] <Mindkontrol> Jogibaer: Not quite sure what i have to change where to get that to happen
[20:10] <PublicStaticVoid> should I do apt-remove Cianomon nemo --purge first?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lol. well, it might be a "new" card, just old controller.
[20:11] <rrva> hi!. whats the best desktop to use for retina displays
[20:11] <Jogibaer> Mindkontrol: have looked into the man-pages of your vpn-program?
[20:11] <rrva> unity, xfce, gnome 3.10+ ?
[20:12] <Jogibaer> Mindkontrol: man <name_of_vpn_program>
[20:12] <mobileRoda> nomodeset help anyone? stuck installing 12.04 @  75% again. much appreciate, such wow
[20:12] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: well, maybe ppa-purge is a safer way
[20:12] <belgianguy> just to be sure no left-overs are left behind
[20:13] <PublicStaticVoid> I didnt use a pa to install..
[20:13] <PublicStaticVoid> not sure what ppa-purge is
[20:13] <PublicStaticVoid> too late now anyways haha
[20:13] <PublicStaticVoid> I just did apt-get remove cinnamon nemo aded the ppa then apt-get update
[20:14] <bekks> PublicStaticVoid: A tool for removing PPA and the packages that were installed from the PPA to be removed.
[20:14] <PublicStaticVoid> and now I will do apt-get install cinnamon nemo
[20:14] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: this article sates that Cinnamon should be fine now http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/cinnamon-20-no-longer-breaks-unity-in.html
[20:14] <PublicStaticVoid> but I am 14.04
[20:14] <PublicStaticVoid> and it was broken when installed from repos
[20:14] <glitsj16> mojtaba: to get that option i guess you'll have to look at your CUPS setup via http://localhost:631, then you can use the cli command lpr (also look at lpstat to check defaults etc)
[20:14] <PublicStaticVoid> and it actually messed up my Unity haha
[20:15] <PublicStaticVoid> made my desktop show icons
[20:15] <PublicStaticVoid> gotta figure out how to undo that
[20:15] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: here's a more detailed article, including ppa-purge if it breaks down http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-New-Cinnamon-2-0-6-in-Ubuntu-13-10-and-Ubuntu-13-04-395101.shtml
[20:15] <PublicStaticVoid> But I dont want to use unity anyways
[20:15] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: Thanks
[20:15] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: how did it mess it up?
[20:16] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: It made it show Desktop Icons
[20:16] <PublicStaticVoid> in Unity
[20:16] <PublicStaticVoid> Unity soesnt show desktop icons by default..
[20:16] <PublicStaticVoid> doesnt
[20:16] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: I'd do the cleanup steps first in that article near the bottom
[20:16] <mobileRoda> no one has super spiffy one line answer on fixing 12.04 install like before? sorry to bother but im without an OS until i get it right again
[20:17] <belgianguy> oh nm, it wasn't installed from ppa right?
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: That article is if you installed from PPA to begin with
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 and you should report the cinnamon bugs so they get fixed for release
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> I didnt
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> hm
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:17] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: ohh, 14
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> Looks like they havent prepared for 14.04 yet
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> :(
[20:17] <belgianguy> .04, then please don't use that article, as it might totally break it
[20:18] <PublicStaticVoid> I cant use the Cinamon ppa either :(
[20:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: lol those guys at tiger direct in canada, are silly people they promissed they raided the system for linux, do u know what the issue was hitsujiTMO the bios was raided for windows! and UEFI was not working.
[20:18] <HellTiger> Jogibaer: will i run into any problems if i use lubuntu or xubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[20:18] <PublicStaticVoid> Unless I ca force it
[20:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: psu something helped me on here, to raid the system and removed all he crappy windows raided settings in the bios....what a nasty set up.
[20:19] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: wait until April 2014 (http://la-vache-libre.org/cubuntu-14-04-maintenant-sous-cinnamon-2/)
[20:19] <belgianguy> in French though
[20:19] <PublicStaticVoid> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:19] <PublicStaticVoid> ooops
[20:19] <PublicStaticVoid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2184959
[20:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: I ended up finally getting the OS to boot, so at least last night was not a total waste, now once I get this network card working perfectly....I will be in amazing condition! but what ever, ill get the card tomorrow...and come into work just incase and ill try and diagnose it and fix it when I have everything I need to spend alot of time on it.
[20:19] <PublicStaticVoid> Seems there is hope
[20:20] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: but you guys and everyone here on Ubuntu are amazing, I have to say....what a phenominal community of people.
[20:20] <xup> Hi, is there any statistcs for ubuntu usage?
[20:20] <Jogibaer> HellTiger: I tried it only with ubuntu, but I'm confident that it works as well
[20:20] <xup> public ones...
[20:20] <euclidis> xup: Ubuntu's users can send it.
[20:20] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: if you want to try a 14.04 Cubuntu ISO: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cubuntu/files/
[20:21] <euclidis> kubuntu
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lol. i never bother with getting the vendors to set anything up for me. Even the routers at my old job I set up myself (vendors were looking for ~€1000/router to send someone out to do it), took me 4hrs to set the first one up and had the rest done by the end of the day
[20:21] <belgianguy> euclidis: no, really, with a C :) C for Cinnamon
[20:21] <xup> euclidis, where can I see it?
[20:21] <belgianguy> oh, oops
[20:22] <belgianguy> sorry euclidis
[20:22] <euclidis> I've installed kde desktop from ppa backports and it works properly.
[20:22] <euclidis> ok. I confused about it.
[20:22] <PublicStaticVoid> Actually that article seems to be about replacing nautilus with Nemo in Unity
[20:22] <bekks> kdefrom the official repos work fine, too :)
[20:22] <mobileRoda> halp me obie wan kenobi, you 're my only hope! stuck on 12.04 install on crappy intel integrated faptop
[20:22] <apb1963> debug info is missing for konversation is missing... how can I get that corrected?
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> !details | mobileRoda
[20:23] <xxmate> hello, can anyone help me to change the color of top panel bar on unity?
[20:23] <bekks> apb1963: you would have to compile a version with full debug information.
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> xxmate: that needs to be done in the theme itself afaik
[20:23] <jordan_> can someone give me the install terminal code for ubuntu
[20:23] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: No I have installed at least 14 fresh installs on this laptop since I bought it a week ago
[20:23] <PublicStaticVoid> No ore haha
[20:23] <bekks> jordan_: "insert livecd and follow the instructions".
[20:24] <xxmate> hitsujiTM0: oh what theme?
[20:24] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: you could put it on USB and just use the try mode I presume
[20:24] <euclidis> xup: In the menu, you can see 'privacy'. Enter and enable or disable according your preference.
[20:24] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: but as 14.04 is unstable itself, be prepared to fix all the time
[20:25] <belgianguy> as Cubuntu isn't even an official offshoot I reckon
[20:25] <HellTiger> hm for first boot of a live system, is it wise to keep a usbhub plugged? in the hub is mouse keyboard and usb ntfs harddrive
[20:25] <PublicStaticVoid> 14.04 has actually worked beter than anything I have tried
[20:25] <PublicStaticVoid> Since it has a newer kernel and better HW support
[20:25] <PublicStaticVoid> SInce my Laptop is brand new
[20:26] <mobileRoda> my problem is with installing 12.04 on Asus x55c laptop. I can get all tge way to installing system and it freezes install. i was goven a one line tip in here before that got it working, but i cant find it anywhere online.
[20:26] <PublicStaticVoid> I just want Cinnamon damn it
[20:26] <PublicStaticVoid> Cant believe the PPS wont work
[20:26] <PublicStaticVoid> PPA
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> xxmate: Ambiance is the default theme. its in /usr/share/themes/   i'd recommend copying it to ~/.themes and modifying the copy if you want to play around with it
[20:26] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: take a look at those ISOs
[20:26] <belgianguy> the ppa probably doesn't know anything after saucy yet
[20:27] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah, cant I force it to use saucy packages?
[20:27] <guest______> What program do you guys use to backup your home directories?
[20:27] <bekks> !backup | guest______
[20:27] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: no more ISO's thanks though
[20:27] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: you can, but you'll rarily want to
[20:27] <euclidis> mobileRoda: I know. Maybe the image is broken. Try  burning again or making a usb stick with a new downloaded image.
[20:27] <PublicStaticVoid> Well I want to
[20:27] <xangua> !info unity-tweak
[20:27] <xangua> xxmate: if you are using ubuntu saucy, you can install unity-tweak to change the panel background color
[20:27] <PublicStaticVoid> Do you know the command?
[20:27] <xangua> mmmm :/
[20:28] <guest______> !sbackup
[20:28] <PublicStaticVoid> I mean cinnamon is in the 14.04 repositories..
[20:28] <tr0n> apparently neither does skype
[20:28] <xangua> !info unity-tweak-tool | xxmate
[20:28] <xxmate> xangua: nope i'm using 13.04. i saw an option to change the luncher background but i need to change the top panel's color
[20:28] <xxmate> xangua: like this: http://imgur.com/hi42I2j
[20:28] <wachpwnski> ubottu: is that like an rsync cron job?
[20:28] <PublicStaticVoid> Was hard enough tracking down a non cracked OEM Windows 8.1 ISO
[20:29] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, that's my problem, euchlids, there was a obe-line fix given to me in here before, but i didnt realize how much i would need it again. i remember i had to edit a line in grub i think
[20:29] <tr0n> eww the "w" word
[20:29] <PublicStaticVoid> Since Windows has decided no more Key stickers, they now embed all Keys in the Bios
[20:29] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: no need for such crass language :p
[20:29] <PublicStaticVoid> and indows just installs and pulls the key automatically
[20:29] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: here http://askubuntu.com/questions/96601/how-can-i-install-a-program-from-a-ppa-that-is-listed-as-being-for-12-04-when-i
[20:29] <merandus> i haveadded a repo, http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dm8tbr/xUbuntu_12.04/. i get the  (could not verify public key) error. how can i fix it? i don't know how to import the key with the command line
[20:29] <merandus>  
[20:29] <mobileRoda> *one-line sorry mobile
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | mobileRoda
[20:29] <belgianguy> but I'm afraid it'll break everything
[20:29] <PublicStaticVoid> They didnt think about when people replace their hard drives
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Because you get no isntall meedia
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> media
[20:30] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: if that happens, have an ISO ready while you still can
[20:30] <xup> hi, can I see ubuntu's public statistcs?
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah too late
[20:30] <belgianguy> (eg make one now with UNetBootin)
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Didn't know they did that
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> merandus  don't not distro's, as you can see: it doesnt work or gets you in trouble
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: I would need an ISO
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Or you mean clone the recovery partition?
[20:30] <jacob_> i have a netbook that doesnt have much for disk space. is there anyway that i can add disk space with the sd card?
[20:31] <merandus> MonkeyDust: it's icecast built for ubuntu
[20:31] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, ive read all about nomodeset and tried online help in ask ubuntu, bit the only thing that worked for me was a line that came from a user in here from india
[20:31] <merandus> MonkeyDust: just in some other rep
[20:31] <merandus> repo*
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> merandus  don't not distro's, as you can see: it doesnt work or gets you in trouble
[20:31] <PublicStaticVoid> I broke down and bought DVDR's never had any luck making Windows install media on Linux for a USB
[20:31] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: no, one of those Cubuntu things, or just a vanilla Ubuntu LiveUSB
[20:31] <bekks> jacob_: technically yes, but an sd card is horribly slow.
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> not = mix
[20:31] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: the USB creator has had a patch yesterday which seems to have worked wonders
[20:32] <jacob_> bekks: any idea how?
[20:32] <merandus> MonkeyDust: what if i get the .dep file
[20:32] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: here are unofficial Cinnamon + 14.04 ISOs http://sourceforge.net/projects/cubuntu/files/
[20:32] <belgianguy> but again -> unofficial
[20:32] <bekks> jacob_: Insert it, create a filesystem, mount it.
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> merandus  you tried and it doesnt work, what more do you want to know
[20:32] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, ive spent manyhours on that nomodeset page, but the help given to me was slightly different
[20:33] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: UnetBootin can make bootable USB sticks from nearly all Linux ISOs
[20:33] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: I am not reinstalling my OS again haha
[20:33] <PublicStaticVoid> Thx though
[20:33] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: well at one point, root shell might get boring and lonely
[20:33] <merandus> MonkeyDust: it does work, i just want to know how to import the gpg file.
[20:33] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: Except Arch :) Unetbootin doesnt like ARch
[20:33] <belgianguy> and then that USB stick is worth a lot when not just empty space :p
[20:34] <jacob_> bekks:any specifics? im kinda new at this
[20:34] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: what do you mean?
[20:34] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: prepare for your DE to be kaputt, broken, not working
[20:34] <PublicStaticVoid> Why do you say that?
[20:34] <PublicStaticVoid> I know how to reinstall Unity haha
[20:34] <PublicStaticVoid> If I brea it, it is no big deal
[20:35] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: because many realise that they borked their DE, and can no longer use a browser etc
[20:35] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: then  by all means, continue :)
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: do you need the setting to be permanent or not?
[20:35] <tyyx> DE ?
[20:35] <tyyx> what's DE?
[20:35] <PublicStaticVoid> Desktop Enviroment
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: or is it just while you install the proprietary driver?
[20:35] <tyyx> kkthx
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Unity, KDE, XFCE, Gnome, Etc
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Not to be confused with WM
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Like Enlightenment
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> But I thing e17 has a shell now
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> So its pretty much a DE
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> I like Enlightenment
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> But cant get attacted to it on Ubuntu
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> Since they have made the retarded decision to go with Mir
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> Instead of Wayland
[20:37] <Troy> Ok, I have an external hard drive added to my fstab is there an option to allow all users to read/write/execute from it? I have a plex server and the permissions of the external hard drive even after added to the fstab is causing me issues. Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks.
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> And e18 ill require Wayland
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> will*
[20:37] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, its not that my screen goes black, but install freezes. last time i edited something once, was able to install, and didnt have to fiddle again
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> Like many DE's and WM's will in the future and we will all be stuck with Unity
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: just out of curiousity if i get a new network card and swap it in, it should work normally right? Or do i need to configure changes if i switch eth0 cards?
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> I reinstalled Cinnamon from the repo
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> maybe it will work
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> brb
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: or would the kernel technically pick up changes? that are done hardware wise...or would a small hardware change brick the system?
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> oh wait I have a torrent downloading, which finally ramped up to full saturation of my line
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> SO not risking that
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: just depends in the chipset on the card. some work better than others
[20:39] <PublicStaticVoid> should have used Transmission CLI in a TTY
[20:39] <PublicStaticVoid> damn
[20:39] <tyyx> Psil0Cybin, install it...  it won't break anything.  It will just add eth1 or whatever other name it detected
[20:39] <Troy> I like the webui's
[20:39] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, just on install no propeietary drivers found when i had it running
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: its very difficult for a hardware change to break an ubuntu system. its not like the older windows systems
[20:40] <tyyx> the only change you may find is that ... eth0 is no longer used, it's now ... eth1 or something else.
[20:41] <Calinou> tyyx, happened to me once after I changed motherboard :) but now it's back to eth0 for some reason
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: what hardware do you have? it could be a huge number of kernel settings that are needed
[20:41] <Folbo> hi, my friend got error undefinied reference at linking executable in MAKE process, but only when compiling 64 bit app. How to fix it ?
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> Folbo: whats the exact error?
[20:43] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, like i said before though, ive been in this spot once before and it was a fast fix after i knew exactly what to do =| intel i3 2.4ghz integrated graphics
[20:43] <Allison43> eth0 is default here, Calinou
[20:43] <Folbo> hitsujiTMO, /usr/bin/ld: utils/liblinosu-lib.a(curve.c.o): undefined reference to symbol 'sqrt@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
[20:44] <Folbo> and there is note below: /usr/bin/ld: note: 'sqrt@@GLIBC_2.2.5' is defined in DSO /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 so try adding it to the linker command line
[20:44] <robinmholt> Folbo: Add -lm to the link command line.
[20:45] <Folbo> in makefile? or where?
[20:45] <delt> test test
[20:45] <delt> sry
[20:45] <TheAndrewK> Hey guys, I am having troubles booting Ubuntu - it will usually load the kernel fine and start loading, but eventually halt. Currently, there isn't any specific command it halts on, but at some point it does :(
[20:45] <TheAndrewK> any idea what might be going on?
[20:45] <robinmholt> Folbo: Yes, there should be either an implicit or explicit rule for that link.  You probably want to add it to either LDFLAGS environment variable, or to the link line directly.
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: and at what point is it crashing, is it the same point each time?
[20:46] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: anything you changed that might have caused it? Have you booted into recovery mode and checked the logs?
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: whats the exact model number of the laptop?
[20:46] <robinmholt> If you know the goal that is being built, you can also do something like 'foo:  LDFLAGS += -lm' to add it to the environment for just that one goal.
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> tyyx: hitsujiTMO when you mean install it? Do you mean just put it into the machine, or do I need to find a driver online type thing and install the driver for the card? in order to get the system to see it first before I can troubleshoot anything.
[20:47] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, same point every time, close to 80% at 'installing system'
[20:47] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: this is while trying to boot into recovery mode, so I haven't been able to check anything. I only migrated the hardware into a new case - everything is plugged in fine and such.
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: i mean put it in the machine
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> tyyx hitsujiTMO the other card worked right away without a driver, it should be the same case again? or do I need to reconfigure? after I put the hard ware in
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay perfect :D i will try that shortly.
[20:47] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: I had something similar once, when I switched from NVidia to AMD
[20:47] <belgianguy> and my gfx driver would no longer work
[20:47] <robinmholt> Folbo: You can dump the make goals, etc with 'make -p ...' where ... is whatever you were passing to make before.  If you understand makefile syntax, that should get you on the right track.
[20:48] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:hmm interesting
[20:48] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: I'd say try booting from an USB stick Live Session
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: only config you'd need to do is just the network config :P
[20:48] <belgianguy> see if it 'works' and you can rest easy that the hardware is all there and ticking
[20:49] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:I have a live CD that tries to boot, but eventually sits on a black screen w/ white blinking cursor
[20:49] <robinmholt> Folbo: I would guess the reason you do not see this on i386, but you do see it on x86_64 is that gcc is adding the -lm for some other part of the collect phase and you just get lucky.
[20:49] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: mmm, that isn't too convincing
[20:50] <Folbo> lol, wait i'll try to add this option
[20:50] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: can you get into root shell from recovery console?
[20:50] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:yeah, been struggling with this for a while
[20:50] <belgianguy> or nothing at all?
[20:50] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:how can I do that?
[20:50] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, idk if it helps, but i think i remember the tip that helped was just a different spot to set nomodeset than in online tuts
[20:51] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: you said it hung on recovery console, at what point?
[20:51] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: let me try it again - it's been hanging at different points :/
[20:51] <robinmholt> Folbo: I need to run.  You might need to start over with somebody else if adding '-lm' does not work.
[20:52] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: or create an USB Live Disk as the ISO might be bad
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: oh so it was nomodeset that you entered or was it a different param?
[20:52] <Folbo> robinmholt, thanks a lot, I'll look in google for track goals :) and flags
[20:52] <PublicStaticVoid> I still regret seling my gaming rig (K series i7 Quad Core 3.4Ghz, 16GB DDR3, Dual GTX 660Ti's 3x Acer 22 " Displays) To buy thi SHitty AMD A6 Laptop :(
[20:52] <PublicStaticVoid> But hey, I have a touchscren!
[20:53] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: yeah that's not a bad idea :)
[20:53] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay amazing :D *fingers crossed* If it was the card, the whole time.. i am going to freak out at the company tiger direct in canada, they claim they know something about linux, but they actually do not....i am still very upset about how they promissed me a hardware raid, but really it was configured only through the bios..hence a software raid....how can you confuse the two?
[20:53] <PublicStaticVoid> Especially since I got an email for another ESO beta.
[20:53] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, Please no swearing here, and that is off topic.
[20:53] <robinmholt> Folbo: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html
[20:53] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i believe it was the nomodeset param, becsuse i remember thanking him for the one version of instructions that worked for me
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you're talking to a sales person, they just want a sale, don't really care too much for anything else
[20:54] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: Again.. Leave the Moderation to the Ops.. thats what they are hear for. If they have an issue.. They will let me know. Get a life.
[20:54] <rww> fyi Tiger Direct is awful
[20:54] <PublicStaticVoid> here*
[20:54] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: well i also spoke to the "linux" hardware specalist, and he told me that when I put the ubunbu iso install in, the hardware would be one drive...(hense) already raided for me...that was not the case.
[20:54] <Psil0Cybin> so either he was confused, at what hardware i got...or he didnt actually work on my machine
[20:54] <belgianguy> yeah, never ask a sales person for a non-biased opinion
[20:54] <belgianguy> they are paid to sell you stuff
[20:55] <Psil0Cybin> sigh what a world we live in.
[20:55] <Psil0Cybin> :) thank god for the people on #Ubuntu <3
[20:55] <PublicStaticVoid> haha
[20:55] <Psil0Cybin> no joke PublicStaticVoid if i ever have millions of dollars, first thing I am doing is donating to everyone who helped me on here.
[20:55] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i might be making progress, please dont stress yourself on it atm, if this doesnt work i'll cry for halp again
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: prob the linux "sales" specialist. usually the specialist is just another sales person thats free at the time.
[20:56] <PublicStaticVoid> Okay off to the airport, have a consultation for a gaming startup in California.. Yey!
[20:56] <mobileRoda> youre pretty busy
[20:56] <TheAndrewK> PublicStaticVoid:which startup?
[20:56] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: okay, going to attempt booting (in recovery). my boot param is: linux /vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic root=UUID=XXX-XXX-XX ro recovery nomodeset --verbose text
[20:56] <PublicStaticVoid> But hey 3 days to show them how to build a network for like 30 Machines and 4 servers.. 15k for me :)
[20:56] <PublicStaticVoid> I love consultation work
[20:56] <PublicStaticVoid> Almost fels like robbery
[20:56] <TheAndrewK> PublicStaticVoid: haha
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> PublicStaticVoid: which place are you going to? :D
[20:57] <PublicStaticVoid> TheAndrewK: Not very professional to say..
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: ok, when booting the install cd you should get a grub screen, hit on the menu option and that should allow you to edit the boot options. you add nomodeset after quiet splash
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> true :)
[20:57] <bekks> PublicStaticVoid: You spend two days with installing one system already :P
[20:57] <IdleOne> PublicStaticVoid: Could you please take the offtopic chatter to the offtopic channel.
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> PublicStaticVoid: best of luck
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:yay, I can drop to a root shell
[20:57] <PublicStaticVoid> TheAndrewK: Thanks
[20:57] <FireVersal> Anyone know of any great beginner ubuntu tutorial?
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: sorry, yeah, i generally end up helping a few peeps at the same time
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: any recommendations on what to do from here?
[20:57] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: are you on wired eth0?
[20:57] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i have a bigger problem, I just found out that the eth0 is in the motherboard, so can i just buy another card and put it in? without a problem? or is it the fact that it is in the mother board going to cause problems?
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> yessir
[20:58] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: well, do as much diagnostics as possible
[20:58] <PublicStaticVoid> bekks: I don't install anything.. Just help their IT guys plan for the deployment.. reccomend hardwre etc.. But I am OT, and out the door.
[20:58] <TheAndrewK> alright
[20:58] <PublicStaticVoid> See you guys!
[20:58] <belgianguy> fglrxinfo (or its nvidia equivalent)
[20:58] <euclidis> My fucking lord !! Why people can't have a little chat here as well? Rhetorical question.
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: should be no problem, you can normally disable the card completely in the bios if you wish, or blacklist the drivers so they don't get loaded
[20:58] <rww> euclidis: because the channel is huge and it makes it harder to do support chat, so we made #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[20:58] <PublicStaticVoid> euclidis: Cause they are super serious here haha
[20:59] <Beldar> !language | euclidis
[20:59] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: not sure what the equiv is sadly; also on a read-only filesystem if that makes a difference
[20:59] <PublicStaticVoid> there is #ubuntu-Offtopic though, which is pretty fun
[20:59] <euclidis> PublicStaticVoid: Good one! hehe
[20:59] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO no worries at all, thank you very much for addressing my issue. +2 internets to you sir
[20:59] <PublicStaticVoid> Later everyone, keep it *nix!
[20:59] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: let me Google it for a moment
[20:59] <mobileRoda> meow to see if its all good
[20:59] <TheAndrewK> okay haha thanks; sorry to make you do that
[20:59] <belgianguy> did you change the GFX hardware?
[20:59] <TheAndrewK> nope - same old graphics card.
[20:59] <TheAndrewK> cleaned it though ;)
[21:00] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: looks like it halted or froze or something...
[21:00] <Beldar> euclidis, You are welcome to chat at #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: i haven't typed anything other than ls and such; blinking cursor on screen, no input will show
[21:00] <Guest21054> How does one get to Ubuntu-Offtopic
[21:01] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: is there anything i can do to get it working without buying another card since its on the motheboard? or is it better to just get the 15$ card and try it out, if it is the case, what kind of card do i need to get is there a specific model number that is much more supported than others?
[21:01] <TheAndrewK> Guest17428: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> Guest21054: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: hmm, that doesn't sound right
[21:01] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: yeah, not at all; this is what I have been hitting the past few days
[21:01] <belgianguy> maybe a kernel panic, but that'd be surprising
[21:02] <Folbo> robinmholt, there is link.txt, do you think this command run linker? if u are here.. http://www.speedyshare.com/M3wgA/link.txt
[21:02] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: have multiple kernels installed?
[21:02] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: i have 3, yes
[21:02] <euclidis> I'm fine, Beldar. I'm not chating. Its just boring when people talk a bit 'off-topic' and get a kick of the channel.. Anyway..
[21:02] <belgianguy> otherwise try booting into an older recovery console
[21:02] <[[a]>  I have a router TP LINK Model No: TD-W8950ND, the router itself has the
[21:02] <[[a]>  192.168.1.1/logview.cmd but when I open the link it gets generated into HTML. I was
[21:02] <TheAndrewK> I think I've tried them all, but I can try another
[21:02] <[[a]>  able to automatically copy the file and past it in my Desktop (of course I convert it
[21:02] <[[a]>  into text file). What I want to do is redirecting the logview.cmd from my router straight to my
[21:02] <FloodBot1> [[a]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what eth0 card? should i buy, model wise...or just run into the store and just buy any ethernet card? I just want to make sure what ever i get is better supported.
[21:02] <[[a]> ok
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: best to avoid anything with broadcom or realtek chipsets.
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so if i go to the store and ask them for a eth0 card attempting to avoid broadcom or realtek i should be in the clear?
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: find out whats available, have a quick google to see what chipset it may be using. and have a look at what issues it may have with ubuntu
[21:04] <Allison43> broadcom works well here hitsujiTMO , it installed in ubiquity when the wifi option appeared
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that depends on the comprehension of the person in the store.
[21:04] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: thanks for your help; going to make an ubuntu usb stick and maybe try that
[21:04] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:and try the older kernels ;)
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> Allison43: its not thatt they don't work, thery're just the hardest to get working in general
[21:05] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: np, best of luck
[21:05] <Allison43> hitsujiTMO, well maybe I'm just lucky
[21:06] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: do you think this card would be good? looking at the walmart website? http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/d-link-pci-dfe-530tx/6000002970224
[21:08] <str3> hey is this the channel for windows rejects
[21:08] <yangm> Hello. I have installed ubuntu recently but firefox keep going grey like every 30 seconds or so
[21:08] <mobileRoda> windows recovery room
[21:08] <mobileRoda> for me
[21:09] <str3> mobileRoda: :P
[21:09] <belgianguy> yangm: try a apt-get --reinstall?
[21:09] <mobileRoda> windows touched me in all the bad places
[21:09] <yangm> already uninstalled a lot of crapware from ubuntu but firefox still sluggish
[21:09] <yangm> I got like 1.something GB by doing that btw
[21:09] <yangm> belgianguy: tried reinstalling with no lucky
[21:09] <belgianguy> yangm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/333411/updating-or-uninstalling-and-reinstalling-firefox-on-linux
[21:10] <belgianguy> did you remove its temp folders?
[21:10] <yangm> belgianguy: not yeat
[21:10] <yangm> *yet
[21:10] <str3> yangm: switch to a lightweight distro?
[21:10] <yangm> it has been like this since I installed ubuntu
[21:11] <yangm> str3: do an i7 2610m with 8gb of ram need a lightweight distro?
[21:11] <str3> its not a matter of hardware
[21:11] <str3> bloat is bloat
[21:11] <Allison43> yangm, FF has a default setting that stores all bookmarks etc for fast loading https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/reset-firefox-easily-fix-most-problems
[21:11] <str3> i run a lighter distro than debian on an ivy bridge extreme box
[21:12] <Calinou> yangm, as a radical solution... use another browser?
[21:12] <Calinou> chromium
[21:12] <yangm> oops 2620M
[21:12] <Calinou> if you're not happy with firefox
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: thats a realtek 8139 ... its an old card too. generally works with 2.6 kernel. can't see any info on compatibility with 3.8 kernel
[21:12] <yangm> Allison43: can I move firefox temp folders and everything to ram?
[21:12] <Calinou> you wouldn't want to do that
[21:13] <yangm> I think my hd is too slow
[21:13] <Bashing-om> str3: If your concern is bloat, what I did was install "minimal" and install only the apps I wanted. Workie great, last long time.
[21:13] <Allison43> yangm, not sure , just became aware of the reset option
[21:13] <yangm> Calinou: I remember that using a ramdisk to store chrome tempfiles improved a lot navigation on windows
[21:13] <str3> Bashing-om: i install all my systems minimal, but i dont use ubuntu anyway
[21:14] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so what card can I perhaps get, that would work better? I am thinking of going to the store now, but I am very confused ( what is considered an old card) or a better card? someone said I could go just pick up any 15$ card...to toss into the machine, could you perhaps help me find a model # so i can run around looking for something specific, just becasue i will have a hard time finding non broadcom or realtek :( chipsets.
[21:15] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i think its doing it again. set nomodeset on install, updates and 3rd party progs like before ,  everything chugs along then it just hangs at installing system
[21:15] <yangm> strange, just noticed that Ubuntu doesn't recognizes my Intel hd300 GPU
[21:15] <yangm> Graphics Unknown
[21:16] <yangm> *hd3000
[21:17] <Calinou> yangm, there's no reason it doesn't
[21:17] <StevenXL> Guys, I have tried to add a permanent alias to my bash profile but it is not working. I have a file called .bash_aliases.
[21:17] <StevenXL> and I have a file called .bashrc
[21:17] <Calinou> if you're using a version newer or equal to 12.04
[21:17] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, is there somewhere using the disc to hit f6? i think that was the winner, putting nomodeset in there when i was installing from usb with same problem. i cant find that menu now though
[21:18] <Allison43> StevenXL, ~/.bashrc is the file for aliases
[21:18] <yangm> Calinou: using latest 12.04 here
[21:18] <FireVersal>  hey
[21:18] <StevenXL> Allison43, according to the documentation inside .bashrc, I should create another file called .bash_aliases and have .bashrc 'call' that file.
[21:18] <FireVersal> 8 hey
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: is it 13.10 that you're installing?
[21:19] <FireVersal> sorry wrong chat
[21:19] <FireVersal>  hey
[21:19] <FireVersal> shet
[21:19] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, 12.04
[21:19] <yangm> also, my ubuntu is booting via grub efi (was installed this way)
[21:19] <Allison43> StevenXL, yeah , but why ?
[21:19] <yangm> maybe if I boot using this efi stub my GPU will be detected?
[21:19] <mobileRoda> x64
[21:19] <StevenXL> Allison43, it is best practice I think. Makes it easier to mantain I imagine?
[21:21] <belgianguy> StevenXL: logged out and in again?
[21:21] <belgianguy> or force it to reload (I don't know the command)
[21:21] <belgianguy> one of mine looks like this: alias ll='ls -alF'
[21:21] <belgianguy> and it's in .bashrc directly (might be bad)
[21:21] <belgianguy> but it works
[21:21] <giuliocod> ioi
[21:22] <StevenXL> belgianguy, I will try that, thanks!
[21:22] <StevenXL> exit
[21:22] <belgianguy> the command to reload bashrc without logging in and out is source ~/.bashrc
[21:22] <sudormrf> Hi guys!  I am trying to get Nagios up and running.  The nagios box (debian) is monitoring an ubuntu server.  When I check the nagios cfg it says there is a duplicate definition, but I don't understand why or where (even by looking at the file that it tells me about).  Is anyone in here familiar with Nagios?
[21:22] <Allison43> StevenXL, ok , I'll take your word for it
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: well that card chipset is from 2005. when it comes to linux you're generally playing the lotto when buying a card. more often than not things will work ofc. just the odd time you can get stuck with something that doesn't work at all. I'd almost think the onboard card you have will work just needs the right driver installed
[21:23] <AaronMT> Here's a stupid issue, I just applied updates to 13.10, now on sign-in I am automatically kicked back to the sign-in screen
[21:23] <StevenXL> It didn't work.
[21:23] <StevenXL> :-(
[21:23] <AaronMT> what do I do
[21:24] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so would you be able to help me find the right driver? just because the biggest problem i have is that the computer has no optical cd drive, and everything has to be done through USB. I had people on here last night finally help me get it to show an eth0 information by changing /etc/networking/interfaces  my biggest issue is that the eth0 wire i was using was working with every other machine, except the server....so everyone sai
[21:24] <Psil0Cybin> d that the card i was using was not supported and to go buy another on because they said i would spend more time getting drivers than getting a new card
[21:24] <Psil0Cybin> thus i was confused if i should just go out and buy a new card and avoid more difficulties of getting a driver configured
[21:25] <Beldar> StevenXL, Be sure to use nicks if addressing another user, if your just commenting give details, so we all can basically follow what's up
[21:25] <snatch> Can someone help me, I connect an external drive and its not getting noticed
[21:25] <geirha> StevenXL: What line did you add, what did you expect, what happened instead?
[21:25] <goingtologic> snatch: Is it plugged in?
[21:25] <StevenXL> Beldar, OK thanks.
[21:25] <snatch> -.-  yes its pluged in...
[21:25] <goingtologic> snatch: I dont know then - this is too complicated
[21:26] <snatch> there's a terminal command i just forgot what it was
[21:26] <snatch> -s msdeg   or something like that
[21:26] <snatch> I just forgot it..   :(
[21:26] <StevenXL> geirha, I added the following to a file called .bash_aliases: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6717249/
[21:26] <Beldar> snatch, sudo fdisk -l will show info, be sure to use nicks here.
[21:26] <Aaron> snatch, man program ;)
[21:27] <demophobia> Are there any bells and whistles I can enable regarding Ubuntu 12.04 desktop graphics?
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: well we had a link yesterday to what was said to be a working driver. just need to get get build essentials installed too.   you in work now?
[21:27] <geirha> StevenXL: Ah, you messed up the quotes
[21:27] <demophobia> i recall compiz being something back around 9.09(?) but had different hardware then and it wasn't so nice
[21:27] <yangm> Why ubuntu won't recognise my intel HD 30000 GPU? is it because grub efi? shoud I try kernel efi stub? updating from 12.04 to 13.10?
[21:27] <sudormrf> Can anyone assist with my Nagios setup?
[21:27] <geirha> alias development='cd /that/long/path'
[21:27] <Aaron> compiz is so out of development
[21:27] <snatch> hmm
[21:27] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Take a look ->ls -la .Xauthority .ICEauthority <- make sure these files still belong to you not root.
[21:27] <sakter12> Other than the software center is there some website or resource online that has a large archive of up to date linux software?
[21:27] <geirha> StevenXL: note where the starting quote is ^
[21:27] <_gh0st> my laptop is configured to blank its screen after so long without a keypress (on install) how do i configure this to stop happening?
[21:27] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, it keeps installing far enough to show me grub after failed install and restart, but i cant load the distro
[21:27] <demophobia> sakter12, sourceforge?
[21:28] <StevenXL> geirha, thanks! I will try it now. Do I have to reload .bashrc after I correct .bash_aliases? If so, how do I do that?
[21:28] <Aaron> sakter12, if you want to always have new apps install you can always, install testing ;)
[21:28] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: They both do
[21:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i am at work right now, but the problem is, i have no internet so i can get the build essencials and the driver package, but i am stil going to be missing a bunch of packages, that i think are going to be required?
[21:28] <_gh0st> or rather, where is this configured to happen or not to happen?
[21:28] <geirha> StevenXL: source ~/.bashrc  or just open a new terminal and try there
[21:28] <Beldar> demophobia, What is it you want be specific.
[21:28] <_gh0st> a file in /etc?  Or in /sys?
[21:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: would it not be easier, if i run the store and just buy another card :P? if you can help me find a version that is better supported?
[21:28] <Aaron> Psychoholic, take ur laptop to your job, ;)
[21:28] <Aaron> and download it from there.
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: so is it failing at grub itself?
[21:28] <snatch> still nothing
[21:28] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, im also uefi, with fast/secure boot disabled
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: int he install?
[21:29] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Like do == you ?
[21:29] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, it seems to load the grub after hanging on install and alt-prt-reisub
[21:29] <Beldar> !who | snatch
[21:29] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: Both those files are under my username
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: does the system you're on right now have ubuntu/debian?
[21:29] <chs> im trying to setup/use forticlient. it shows that tunnel is running and im getting exttra dev ppp0 with an ip. i wish to run vnc on my computer in the office with priv ip.ppp0 has ip starting with 172. my workstation in office starts with 192
[21:30] <snatch> Ok
[21:30] <CTCP2> hello, i have black screen when entering Ubuntu (after installing ATI drivers, after restart)
[21:30] <Beldar> snatch, I gave you a command as well another did "still nothing" means nothing here without details, and the users nick.
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: i'm trying to think of the cause but can't come up with anything particular
[21:30] <StevenXL> geirha, that worked. Thanks! One quick question; since I can't use the quotes the way I originally had them, what would I do if I was using a really awkward directory?
[21:30] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, but just like clockwork, i get to installing system and it just gives up..  .
[21:30] <StevenXL> geirha, normally I use those single quotes
[21:30] <[[a]> _gh0st in sys
[21:30] <_gh0st> where?
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it has ubuntu server on it, at the moment...the problem is the eth0 pops up, when i do ifconfig, but even if I set a static ip or dhcp in the /etc/network/interfaces it it wont give me any network connection in the sense that any pinging i do always say unknown host, unless i ping the machine from the machine.
[21:31] <geirha> StevenXL: Personally, I'd use a function instead of an alias, but with an alias, you'd use two sets of quotes (which can get painful if there's many special characters)
[21:31] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Not good !, What results from terminal command: sudo service lightdm restart <- ?
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: the mother board i am using is this one.
[21:32] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2111223
[21:32] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, its weird, like clockwork just hangs at installing system. any place i can get to f6? i remember that being part of fix maybe
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: not the server.the laptop you're using right now. dies it have ubuntu?
[21:32] <snatch> I have a harddrive connected via sata cords and usb.  is there like a detect hardware command?
[21:32] <Psil0Cybin> yes hitsujiTMO it has ubuntu it has xubuntu 12.04
[21:32] <StevenXL> geirha, got it. Thank you.
[21:32] <geirha> StevenXL: alias foo="cd '/some dir/blah'";   or with a function:  foo() { cd '/some dir/blah'; }
[21:32] <[[a]> router has a log file in itself which is .cmd extention, I just want to redirect those incoming ip addresses in the log of the router to my ubuntu, in desktop or any given folder
[21:32] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: I am brought back to the sign-in screen, same result, on sign-in I am brought right back to the sign-in screen
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: the f6 menu iirc is on the server install disk. not sure of one on the desktop
[21:32] <sakter12> what's a good way to learn how to use APIs?
[21:33] <gdeeble> ikonia: So I'm still trying to figure this out. /etc/init.d/mediatomb is a symlink to /lib/init/upstart-job. So how do I get it as an upstart service?
[21:33] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[21:33] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so you think we can configuer this? or you think i shoild go get a networking card just incase so we can have that beside me to play around with
[21:33] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Is unity the only DE installed ?
[21:33] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: yes
[21:33] <geirha> gdeeble: an upstart job is /etc/init/foo.conf  instead of  /etc/init.d/foo
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that cool. mkdir ~/coocoocachoo; sudo apt-get install debootstrap
[21:34] <gdeeble> geirha: it shows mediatomb.conf in there, but if I push it to rcX it doesn't start with the box.
[21:34] <gdeeble> also service mediatomb start says it's running but doesn't show in ps aux.
[21:35] <geirha> gdeeble: Because it's an upstart job, not an init script
[21:35] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: Is there any way to check the logs
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lets quickly try this first. run that above and we'll use a debootstrap environment to get the needed packages
[21:35] <Aaron> AaronMT, go to /var/log
[21:35] <Aaron> there you can find all the logs,
[21:35] <knightshade> hitsujiTMO: coocoocachoo?
[21:36] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: well, let;s see what the system will tell us. Reboot to a terminal login. code: sudo service lightdm start <- what errors are reported ?
[21:36] <in_deep_thought> how can I open a program i recently installed using the software center?
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> knightshade: shh!!! don't ask questions!
[21:36] <snatch> is there a way to scan for newly connected devices?
[21:36] <bekks> in_deep_thought: Remember the name, first :)
[21:36] <knightshade> coocoocachoo! :D
[21:36] <in_deep_thought> httrack
[21:37] <snatch> check in the progra got it inm list under the catagory you
[21:37] <gdeeble> geirha: You probably think I'm stupid, and I'll 100% agree. LoL, but what do I need to do to get it as a service to start at boot. I had to compile mediatomb to include spider monkey(libjs) support. I did this once before years ago on 10.04 but now that i'm 12.04, i'm back in hole and can't remember what I did before to make it work.
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo debootstrap precise ~/coocoocachoo
[21:37] <Aaron> gdeeble, man services
[21:37] <snatch> so no device manager? got a usb drive not being detected :(
[21:37] <_gh0st> f
[21:38] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: no errors, it's already running: lightdm
[21:38] <_gh0st>  /sys/class/graphics?
[21:38] <Beldar> snatch, How is the usb formatted, and is it a flash or HD?
[21:38] <_gh0st>  /sys/class/backlight?
[21:38] <Psil0Cybin> okay going to do that right now
[21:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: one second
[21:38] <geirha> gdeeble: So where did the upstart conf come from?
[21:39] <Psil0Cybin> wait hitsujiTMO would it just be easier to get anothe card?
[21:39] <yangm> If I update ubuntu will it reinstall all of its bloatware again?
[21:39] <gdeeble> geirha: it must have been put in when I installed the compiled package using dpkg
[21:39] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: maybe the issue in auth.log; lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth) : requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "aaronmt"
[21:39] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: There are 2 logs that might have info .. /var/log/Xorg.log.0 and ~/.xsession-errors.
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: i wouldn't get the one you linked. this should only take 10 mins
[21:39] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO one second i am going to do this now
[21:39] <Aaron> yangm, when you do apt-get dist-upgrade you will receive all the information, from which packages are going to be update
[21:40] <yangm> Aaron: will it reinstall software I removed like libreoffice?
[21:40] <Beldar> yangm, updates ,update what is available.
[21:40] <geirha> gdeeble: Then it probably starts on boot already. Depends on what events it triggers on, of course
[21:40] <Aaron> yangm, depending if the app you are trying to install. it requires libreoffice then it will
[21:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay ran the sudo debootstrap precise command, its doing its thang.
[21:41] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: Ohm hmm, X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid window parameter)
[21:41] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: Ill try resetting X and reinstalling my nvidia driver
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: cool. ping me when its done
[21:41] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Do not know about "pam" .. maybe on to something, do you have a pass word set for the user account ?
[21:41] <Beldar> yangm, Purge what you do not want and be sure to watch what is removed.
[21:41] <gdeeble> geirha: It doesn't seem like it is, because I can't access webui and devices don't see it till I open up ssh and start it that way
[21:42] <yangm> Beldar: Aaron: I will only update because 12.04 is not recognizing my intel HD 3000
[21:42] <Aaron> then do it yangm  and good luck ;)
[21:42] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: does this command take up alot of memory on my xubuntu machine hitsujiTMO ?
[21:42] <Psil0Cybin> or can i remove the files later worst ,case one i transfer them over onto the server.
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: about 600 - 800mb but you can remove it all after. its call contained in the single folder
[21:43] <Psil0Cybin> okay perfect hitsujiTMO thank you.
[21:43] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: looks it it was that, reinstalled my nvidia driver
[21:43] <yangm> Aaron: other question, is it possible that grub is not capable of detecting my GPU? If I switch to EFI stub, will it work?
[21:44] <Aaron> yangm, i don't think so ;)
[21:44] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: (re-)install driver, could be if you are running proprietary driver and update broke it.
[21:44] <Calinou> yangm, it _is _recognizing it
[21:44] <Calinou> however, you should still run 13.10 for other reason
[21:44] <Calinou> the support is better (much faster), for instance
[21:44] <AaronMT> likely, as usual
[21:44] <Calinou> yangm, UEFI or not has nothing to do with it either
[21:45] <Calinou> yangm, GRUB has nothing to do with it
[21:45] <geirha> gdeeble: Then fixing the upstart job to actually start it should help
[21:45] <Calinou> yangm, "lspci | grep VGA" is a proof of your card being recognized
[21:45] <yangm> Calinou: when it comes to a Mac EFI (not UEFI) booting vs BIOS booting makes much difference
[21:45] <snatch> the sudo dmesg worked last time :( doesn't anymore
[21:46] <yangm> like, windows 8 via efi will never detect the sound driver
[21:46] <Calinou> oh, if you're on a Mac it may be a different story
[21:46] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Yeah! good deal, seen that too many times, update breaking the Proprietary drivers - good reason to stay within the package manager system, huh ?
[21:47] <yangm> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[21:47] <snatch> Anyone able to get "Andoriod Studio" ?  i keep getting an error before the download finishes :(
[21:47] <gdeeble> geirha: apparently, I am 100% stupid... Logs help from time to time, especially help if the user reads them.
[21:47] <sakter12> so to install gimp-2.8 i had to add a PPA i found on some askubuntu thread, which just ...what are those PPA's people post there?  it seemed like just some guy's thing on leafpad, is there like an official PPA list for programs like gimp and blender? to get the most recent stable versions?
[21:47] <yangm> but system details shows as unknown
[21:47] <sakter12> oh i'm using 12.04
[21:47] <yangm> and firefox still having problems even when I reinstall that way someone sent me here
[21:48] <KI7MT> sakter12, PPA's are just that, personal package archives .. always use at your own risk, some better than others though.
[21:49] <Beldar> sakter12, there is a list of all ppa's however ppa's are third party and not technically supported you are some what on your own in using them.
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: actually in the meantime. on the server run: echo "blacklist r8169" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:49] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: am i going to be placing these files obviously on a usb :) to transfer onto the server, okay i am turning on the server now and running that command..mean while. :)
[21:49] <sakter12> KI7MT, ah tiz what i thought, is there some list of those that ARE better?  Beldar there are no ... official ones? idk how to phrase this.
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: reboot the server after
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: not all the files. just a handful that we'll use the debootstrap env to get
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> sakter12  if it's not in the repo's, then it's not official
[21:50] <sakter12> KI7MT, how can i view all my current PPAs?  synaptic?
[21:50] <KI7MT> sakter12, ya can't, but here's a list I look at allot: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas
[21:51] <Beldar> sakter12, Also always check the ppa's web page and if they have a release for your release. There is n o better list. You also want to be familiar with ppa-purge in case you need to remove a ppa's packages and go back to the ubuntu repo packages.
[21:51] <jhutchins> sakter12: There really is no quality control for PPAs.  Anybody can set one up, and put any quality of software or even malware on it.
[21:51] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i totally think i can fix my problem if i can get to the f6 menu, but i cant get it to load from disc? before i was on usb and remember it working
[21:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO one second i am going to be running that command to blacklist, give me a second.
[21:51] <Beldar> sakter12, ppa's should be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:51] <demophobia> Are there any visual enhancements that can be enabled for Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:52] <jhutchins> sakter12: That's why the general rule is that if it's from a PPA, #ubuntu does not support it.
[21:52] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO blacklisted.
[21:52] <Psil0Cybin> :)
[21:52] <sakter12> wow thank you all that was very informative. o.O
[21:52] <jhutchins> sakter12: Your best bet is to stick to ones that are discussed frequently by people who seem to know what they're doing and who don't say they're outright bad, or just stick to the official repos with no PPAs.
[21:52] <knightshade> demophobia: you can change the wallpaper.
[21:53] <KI7MT> sakter12, And if you work with scripts at all, this is pretty nifty: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148932/how-can-i-get-a-list-of-all-repositories-and-ppas-from-the-command-line
[21:53] <demophobia> !ppa
[21:53] <demophobia> lol thanks knightshade
[21:53] <demophobia> oh, is there a setting to change the wallpaper every x period of time like mac OS X?
[21:53] <jhutchins> sakter12: It would be amusing if you were to set up a wiki that attempted to collect a comprehensive list of available PPAs and invite people to comment and review.
[21:53] <demophobia> !ppa-purge
[21:54] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: rebooting the server, after blacklisting.
[21:54] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i definitely remember the fix involving pressing e to edit boot line in f 6 and change params there, just cant find my way back
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: the f6 option is just to set kernel params just ike you just did with nomodeset. maybe it was another. have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:54] <Beldar> demophobia, You can use > rather than | and get that info privately
[21:55] <Beldar> If you direct it at yourself
[21:55] <sakter12> thank you demophobia KI7MT Beldar jhutchins MonkeyDust that cleared up a lot
[21:55] <gdeeble> Now If it would allow me access to my files.... lol
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: when its up. do: lspci -knn | grep Ethernet -A2     and see what kernel driver its using
[21:55] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, funny, that was the page i was just on that reminded me of the fix, but icant get it to get to that screen..?
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: or if its loaded one
[21:56] <jhutchins> ethtool will also show what driver you're using - I believe it's -i
[21:56] <demophobia> demophobia: thanks -- erm, i mean, Beldar: thanks :P
[21:56] <sakter12> so i currently have gimp-2.8 installed and the ubuntu 12.04 repo is gimp 2.6, what happens if i remove the PPA that i got gimp 2.8 from?  it stays right?
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: the items in the list can go raw into the boot config like you did with nomodeset. just try each one
[21:56] <Beldar> ;)
[21:56] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it says Ethernet Controller [0200] Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06) Subsystem: Giga-byte tech Ga-ep45-ds5 motherboard Kernel driver in use: r8169
[21:56] <demophobia> I thought someone else might benefit from it here besides me, but I guess I should've been following the chat more closely before making that assumption.
[21:57] <demophobia> >ppa-purge
[21:57] <demophobia> erm
[21:57] <demophobia> lol
[21:57] <knightshade> demophobia: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/wallch/
[21:57] <demophobia> apparently i don't understand
[21:57] <Beldar> demophobia, !ppa-purge > demophobia
[21:57] <demophobia> cool, thanks
[21:57] <knightshade> np
[21:57] <Beldar> no prfob
[21:57] <Beldar> prob*
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hrmmm... try: lsmod | grep r8169
[21:57] <demophobia> !wireless > demophobia
[21:58] <demophobia> ubottu, no! :P
[21:58] <KI7MT> demonspork, also look into a package called YPPA
[21:58] <Pici> demophobia: please /msg ubottu if you're just looking for things for yourself.
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> it says r8169           68716   0
[21:58] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, my problem is now i cant get to the advanced boot window..
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> still downloading to coocooahoo :)
[21:58] <glitsj16> demophobia: if you're interested in regular info/tips on visual enhancements (amongst other more general ubuntu topics) and have a rss feed tool, http://www.webupd8.org/ and http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/ form a nice source to keep up with, just a thought..
[21:58] <demophobia> Pici, noted.
[21:58] <mobileRoda> if i could that should be it, i remember what to do from there
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: weird its still loading the black listed driver.
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> ...wierd
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> should i try blacklisting it again?
[21:59] <demophobia> glitsj16, does thunderbird do RSS? ...
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> it might have been with other people trying to help me getting the driver working....sigh i should have kept everything i did.
[21:59] <glitsj16> demophobia: yes it does iirc
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1619 Jan 9 00:53 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:00] <KI7MT> demonspork, actually, it's called "Y PPA Manager" .. and of course, it's also a PPA  ... PPA madness today :-)
[22:00] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: the files finished downloading on the laptop
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | grep r8169
[22:00] <sakter12> Beldar, if i got into /etc/apt/sources.list.d  and "rm -f somePPA.list"  is it completely removed after that?  ppas just effect how sudo apt-get update && upgrade "work" .... right?
[22:00] <sakter12> *go into
[22:00] <Psil0Cybin> it says blacklist r8169
[22:00] <Exploit> the new apache, when i setup virtual hosts looks different, when i want to enable mod-rewrite using allowall feature, its not there. anyone know of this?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok. we'll ignore the issue for now. back to the laptop.
[22:01] <KI7MT> Exploit, you on 13.10 UB?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount --bind /dev ~/coocoocachoo/dev
[22:01] <Exploit> yes
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount --bind /sys ~/coocoocachoo/sys
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount --bind /dev/pts ~/coocoocachoo/dev/pts
[22:02] <streulma> hello, my ssd report 1 bad sector, what to do ?
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> mount: mount point /home/psilocybin/coocoocachoo/dev does not exist
[22:02] <Beldar> sakter12, If you want the ppa removed and the packages from it reverting you to the packages from the ubuntu repo you use ppa-purge, I would avoid rm rf in in general it is rarely needed
[22:02] <sudormrf> bye
[22:02] <gdeeble> geirha, so I have starting and stopping, but I'm still experiencing an issue, where if I run the daemon, no matter the users, it gets permission denied?
[22:03] <gdeeble> but ran manually works fine
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ls -l ~
[22:03] <KI7MT> Exploit, lots of changes in 2.4: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/new_features_2_4.html
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: diff folder name
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> it worked with sudo mount --bind /dev ~/coocooachoo/dev
[22:03] <Beldar> sakter12, That removing command if run wrong once executed can really mess you up is all.
[22:03] <sakter12> Beldar, ah yes, ppa-purge i got to look that up. thank you.
[22:03] <sakter12> i see
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ahh you forgot a c when on debootstrap. thats ok
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> sudo mount --bind /sys ~/coocooachoo/sys
[22:03] <Beldar> !ppa-purge > sakter12
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount --bind /dev/pts ~/coocooachoo/dev/pts
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount -t proc none ~/coocooachoo/proc
[22:04] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: Just ran all the commands,
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo choot ~/coocooachoo
[22:05] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: this wont mess up my laptop though right just because i am mounting all these folders?
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: nope it wont
[22:05] <Psil0Cybin> sudo: choot: command not found
[22:05] <intrader> Anyone, I have just installed 7zip. I am unable to find in the terminal or Dash Home. The package manager finds it. How do I execute it?
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo chroot ~/coocooachoo
[22:05] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO i am in it.
[22:06] <Exploit> how do i do AllowOverride in apache 2.5?
[22:07] <Beldar> intrader, right click what you need it for then click use 7zip
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: echo "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted universe multiverse" > /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:08] <Beldar> open with is the right click path intrader
[22:08] <alfonsojon> Hi
[22:08] <alfonsojon> I have a question regarding 14.04
[22:08] <Psil0Cybin> okay i did it hitsujiTMO, it looks like the command ran fine.
[22:08] <Beldar> !14.04 | alfonsojon
[22:08] <alfonsojon> I know it's not out yet, but I'm kind of annoyed by something. I have loved Unity since 11.04, but I'm getting a bit worried about all of this unity-does-all stuff
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential
[22:08] <KI7MT> Exploit, Dont know about 2.5 but 2.4: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#allowoverride
[22:09] <Exploit> k17mt: i have this verison Apache/2.4.6
[22:09] <alfonsojon> Will 14.04 support removing of smart scopes entirely (uninstall)?
[22:09] <Pici> alfonsojon: 14.04 questions belong in #ubuntu+1
[22:09] <Beldar> alfonsojon, You catch the bots message #ubuntu+1 is the channel.
[22:09] <alfonsojon> Okay
[22:09] <alfonsojon> More relevant question
[22:09] <alfonsojon> Apply what I just said to 13.10
[22:09] <alfonsojon> Can I remove the smart scopes?
[22:10] <Beldar> alfonsojon, yes
[22:10] <KI7MT> Exploit, ur on 2.4 then see link I sent above.
[22:10] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay i ran the update command, it is running those commands and doing its thing.
[22:10] <glitsj16> intrader: look for 7z, 7za, 7zr and/or p7zip as cli commands depending on which p7zip package(s) you installed, it has no GUI of its own, but once installed it should show up in file-roller (even with password protection options)
[22:10] <mobileRoda> This does not happen when i put in live cd 'the user can gain access to the advanced boot options by pressing any key when the logo accessibilty ligo appears at the bottom of the screen' I dont get to see thst, just black and white boot options. how can i fix please? will solve all my problems
[22:10] <alfonsojon> Beldar: apt-get purge xxx?
[22:11] <alfonsojon> as in what package do I remove to remove the smart scopes?
[22:11] <mrtakdeniz> hi guys
[22:11] <mrtakdeniz> Is there any ubuntu support channel, or will I ask from here?
[22:11] <Beldar> alfonsojon, here is a shopping and scopes thread. http://askubuntu.com/questions/366238/how-do-i-remove-only-shopping-searches
[22:11] <k1l> !details | mrtakdeniz
[22:12] <Beldar> mrtakdeniz, This is ubuntu support, ask away.
[22:12] <mrtakdeniz> I have a problem with Skype.. I'm running 13.04 x64 version. When I making a video call from skype, there was no sound. So I checked from the skype options, but on Sound tab, there is no my speaker driver on hardware list. Only HDMI outputs
[22:13] <mrtakdeniz> But my monitor is not supporting HDMI audio, so I need to choose analog
[22:13] <mrtakdeniz> But there was no analog option on the list, same on "ringing" tab
[22:13] <alfonsojon> Beldar: That confirmed my belief
[22:13] <alfonsojon> There's no way to remove the lenses via package.
[22:13] <mobileRoda> please anyone? ive been in here on my phone for an hour trying to fix. just wondering why i cant get to adv boot options now.
[22:13] <mrtakdeniz> How I can disable HDMI Sound? I checked from sound settings, on the Output tab, there is only "Speakers - Build-in Audio", no HDMI or etc.
[22:14] <Beldar> alfonsojon, what belief, here is another thread list that may be more of what you want. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=remove+smart+scopes
[22:14] <mobileRoda> just want to hit f6 and fix like before. using same distro file, just disc, not usb now
[22:14] <demophobia> Adding mp3s to my music library, I see the Import Error, "Additional GStreamer plugins are required to play this file: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder". How do I install these plugins to play these files? I have also encountered the Error, "Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in." Is this error referring to the same plugin as the other error message?
[22:15] <bekks> mrtakdeniz: You should update to 13.10, 13.04 will be EOL in a few weeks.
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that all done?
[22:15] <mrtakdeniz> demophobia, try "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[22:15] <alfonsojon> I might just use 12.04
[22:15]  * demophobia reads https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: still running the setting up and what ever, almost done
[22:15] <mrtakdeniz> bekks, I can't. Cause it is not default ubuntu dist. It is a derivative called as "PearOS"
[22:15] <alfonsojon> With the LibreOffice and GIMP 2.8 PPAs.
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it is done now
[22:16] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Have you looked at the uefi wiki?
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: exit
[22:16] <bekks> mrtakdeniz: Then it isnt supported in here, sorry.
[22:16] <mrtakdeniz> bekks, anyway, I did "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". So my kernel is up to date.
[22:16] <Psil0Cybin> okay exited that  root shell.
[22:16] <demophobia> how do i choose the software manager when clicking an apt link?
[22:16] <demophobia> i don't know where to navigate to choose the software manager
[22:16] <[[a]> is there anyway to see "whois scanning my ports" I mean like sniffer or soemthing
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: now look at: ls -l ~/coocooachoo/var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:17] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6717498/
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> [[a] thats usually half the internet
[22:18] <mobileRoda> baldur, i have spent many hours today and before trying. got it working once before with the help of another member but i dont have a running sys to readily research
[22:18] <Psil0Cybin> problem the server is 64 bit
[22:18] <demophobia> mrtakdeniz, it's telling me Libav codec library and Libav utility library must be removed to install Ubuntu restricted extras, and I don't know how to do that ...
[22:18] <demophobia> or why that must be done ...
[22:18] <Psil0Cybin> i notice all packages are for i386....sigh
[22:18] <demophobia> it only gives me the option of 'cancel' or 'install anyway'
[22:18] <mrtakdeniz> demophobia, try "sudo apt-get remove --purge libav*"
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ahh
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: oh noooooo...
[22:19] <mobileRoda> baldur, my secure/fast boot is always off
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: is your laptop 32bit?
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> yes hitsujiTMO sighhh :(
[22:19]  * demophobia reads http://askubuntu.com/questions/153884/why-does-ubuntu-restricted-extras-want-to-remove-some-libav-packages
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: guess i should have asked that first
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: its okay its my fault, you are helping too many people :) its hard to keep track.
[22:19] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Tab complete nicks, that way we are actually notified. Have you imaged the windows and have a recovery disc made and resized windows with it's partitioner leaving a unallocated for ubuntu.
[22:19] <[[a]> hitsujiTMO, I know but i wanna see it in real mode,
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: should I remove, the coocooahoo file?
[22:20] <mrtakdeniz> demophobia, anyway I am not sure ubuntu-restricted-extras package contains mpeg-4 codec, but it must. I am playing any mp3 or audio file with that.
[22:20] <AeroNotix> i used https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-setup-your-own-vpn-with-pptp to set up a vpn on Ubuntu, but pptpd just exits with status 1
[22:20] <Pici> mrtakdeniz, demophobia: You reall really should avoid using wildcards for removing packages. There are many matches for what you have provided and most are not 'libav'
[22:20] <alfonsojon> Where can I go for general talk about Ubuntu, not support?
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> [[a] you really dont. its a lot of effort to log all that info. you could set up logging in your firewall if you wanted
[22:20] <Beldar> alfonsojon, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you'll need to reboot to do so
[22:20] <AeroNotix> pptpd doesn't seem to create logs, though
[22:21] <[[a]> hitsujiTMO, last question > is there a way to block a specifc IP ADDRESS?
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so i can reboot my laptop, remove the coocooahoo file?
[22:21] <mobileRoda> Beldar, im trying, on mobile. thanks, but youre taking me down the wrong rabbit hole. im not running windows anymore
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> and pop back onto ubuntu and youll help me from here?
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> [[a]: firewall
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: after going through this, should i just go out and buy a blasted card ? lol
[22:21] <[[a]> ok
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> !ufw | [[a]
[22:22] <aisey> hi, i am now... hot to install 635m notebook graphic to 13.10?
[22:22] <demophobia> Pici, mrtakdeniz, thank you. I think "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" will do the trick -- I should have read more of that page I linked earlier.
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lol do. in the meantime ill try it myself to get a list of debs for you to wget
[22:22] <euclidis> Wow. I was cheating thought..
[22:22] <bekks> !bumblebee | aisey
[22:22] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay aha thank you!!
[22:22] <demophobia> I think "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" will automatically remove the two conflicting packages(is that the right word?) and install all the needed other things.
[22:22] <Psil0Cybin> you are a god send.
[22:22] <aisey> thank you
[22:22] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Good to know, that is key information that helps us help you. take a look at this thread and look at the uefi wiki. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295  If you remove windows you still have a gpt partition table.
[22:23] <mrtakdeniz> demophobia, you are welcome ^^
[22:23] <aisey> how to change z/y ?
[22:23] <mobileRoda> Beldar, last time i had same issue, within 1 post a member was able to give me working instructions on how to get to advanced boot window and hit f6 and edit some things,  but today i cant get back. i keep following online instructions to get to adv boot window, but i never get accessibility logo to hit keys to take me there
[22:23] <glitsj16> demophobia: for errors like those you might want to look at installing gstreamer0.10-packagekit to make your life a bit easier in the future, it's a plugin to the gstreamer framework to 'automate' search and/install of audio and video codecs
[22:24] <Beldar> euclidis, The channel is rather busy, can you ask for help if needed or provide support only.
[22:24] <demophobia> a 'TrueType core fonts for the Web EULA' screen came up and i don't know how to get out of it -- clicking the 'ok' text, spacebar, enter key, doesn't work
[22:24] <demophobia> glitsj16, thanks ... ...
[22:25] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Have you removed windows?
[22:25] <mobileRoda> i need that british sounding guy from india =| guy was like, oh yah, do this. done
[22:25] <demophobia> pressing Esc removes the thing but it reappears a fraction of a second later
[22:26] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so i can do sudo rm -r coocooachoo ?
[22:26] <mobileRoda> Beldar, cometely as far as i know. i had already broken windows last time i was installing 12.04 and ran into this. now i have it all removed
[22:26] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i ran that command seems like it takes a while to delete :P aha
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lol will do. it has to remove an entire OS almost
[22:27] <demophobia> I can't proceed with the installation via terminal because of this EULA that I don't know how to accept! What do I do?! I don't want to close the terminal window because I'm afraid interrupting the installation will cause errors. I'm paralyzed until someone helps me figure out how to "accept" this EULA so the terminal can get on with its business >_<
[22:27] <glitsj16> demophobia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16225/how-can-i-accept-microsoft-eula-agreement-for-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[22:27] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: hehe alright thank you :) so much. I am thinking of taking this server home tonight, so i can get this working from home, to just get an ip using dhcp and then come to the office and configure an actual static ip :) as long as i can get internet working somewhere that is the right track
[22:27] <demophobia> >____< thank you glitsj16  ....
[22:27] <euclidis> Beldar: Actually, I am thinking about control remotely another machine thought ubuntu. The system is debian based 'rather'. Its a cheating.
[22:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what should i do right now though, wait untill you can continue to help me? are you looking for all the packages we will need?
[22:28] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Ah, more good info, so with a uefi setup and a gpt partition table all this info is pertinent to include in inquiries for help. To be honest I'm not exactly sure what your issue issue is, it seems to be a failing install is this correct?
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: if you want to run and grap a new card do
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: this will be a few mins
[22:29] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay so im going to unplug everything, grab a new card, and run home and hook this up?
[22:30] <Guestabc> I need to remove a ubuntu partition to make space, but Im not sure which one, I have a boot home and swap.
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: shoot, how do i get a card though and make sure its not a realtek....again all the cheap cards i can find , seem to be a realtek card :'(
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what would i look for on the package, to make sure that the new etho card i am getting would be supported?
[22:31] <Beldar> Guestabc, What is the actual end goal with doing this?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: not much you can look for to be hanest. not something thats advertised
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: grab something at random i guess
[22:32] <Guestabc> beldar: its on an external HD and I didn't know I was using 4 primary partitions, I need a partiton for NTFS backup space
[22:32] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so i should just go and grab a card, and hope for the best type thing, when it comes to grabbing the hard ware lmao? okay, i will grab something at random, and will bring it home, hop on irc and ill be live for you to help me :) if possible.
[22:32] <euclidis> Guestabc: You can run 'update-grub' and see which one is your ubuntu. Then, open gparted to do whatever you want.
[22:32] <Beldar> Guestabc, can you run suo fdisk -l and pastebin it.
[22:32] <Beldar> sudo*
[22:32] <Guestabc> ok
[22:33] <Guestabc> I tried to unmount /home but gparted wouldn't allow it, thought that might be the most expendable?
[22:33] <euclidis> hum.. ^
[22:33] <euclidis> Guestabc: ^
[22:33] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i am going to the store now and grabbing a network card for the prupose of doing this, i will be right back, because i am physically going in the store... i might pop on irc using my mobile phone to ask you hitsujiTMO is that fine? maybe
[22:33] <Beldar> Guestabc, You will need a live environment if your in the ubuntu you want removed.
[22:34] <euclidis> of course..
[22:34] <mobileRoda> Beldar, i have written much but this crappy app keeps freezing and wont let me paste text, 1sec
[22:35] <[[a]> what does "sudo ufw logging on" do ?
[22:35] <Guestabc> beldar, this is my first linux install, im not sure what you mean
[22:35] <Beldar> Guestabc, where?
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: np
[22:37] <Guestabc> bbeldar, fdisk -l? that doesnt seem to do anything
[22:37] <mobileRoda> Beldar, i have had this issue the only other time ive installed 12.04 on this system. i csn never get nomodeset to work when i edit the black and white grub, but i remember what fixed it for me before was getting into advanced menu then f6 and add nomodeset there. i cant get back to advanced boit window folling online instructions though, as i never see the accessibilty logo
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> Guestabc: you need to run that with sudo
[22:37] <Beldar> Guestabc, sudo fdisk -l lists partitions
[22:37] <Guestabc> gotcha
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> Guestabc: and if it still doesnt seem to do anything then, then you have major problems :P
[22:38] <Beldar> mobileRoda, So you are installed correct?
[22:38] <glitsj16> [[a]: it toggles on ufw's logging of packets, which can grow quite large depending on traffic.. as always the man has more details
[22:38] <Beldar> Guestabc: Are you in ubuntu right now?
[22:39] <Guestabc> beldar: yes, here http://pastebin.com/ANpeTDq3
[22:39] <mobileRoda> i was, but i broke sonething so i tried replacing install and it froze installing like before when i didnt use the trick i was told in here. i think im partially installed if that's possible
[22:39] <[[a]> thank you
[22:40] <mobileRoda> Beldar, because i keep having to force shutdown when install hangs
[22:42] <nevyn> win 3
[22:42] <mobileRoda> every instruction i find to get to advanced boot says sane thing, press key when loading livedisc and then f6 when in advanced menu.
[22:42] <mobileRoda> but that never works for me
[22:43] <mobileRoda> yet it has before when i had same iso on usb
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> [[a]: the logging should give you what you want as regards seeing who is portscanning the system. but as i said, it will become a very huge list, very quickly
[22:43] <Beldar> Guestabc, You have to be on a live cd to resize or delete any part of ubuntu, be careful here any actual part of the ubuntu OS other than the swap being removed will brick it, you might just resize part of it and clone it then do this adding the ntfs the reload the ubuntu.
[22:44] <Guestabc> beldar, so delete the swap, then resize one of the other partitions? like home?
[22:45] <bekks> Guestabc: you cannot do that while running your system.
[22:45] <Guestabc> bekks, yeah I got a live cd tho
[22:46] <mobileRoda> wtf my comp wont even get to bios now with disc out??? just black screen
[22:52] <mobileRoda> and now magically i pull my battery out, put in disk after bricking my comp and im at adv screen. this is sorcery
[22:53] <Beldar> mobileRoda, I recognize you are frustrated, but swearing or acronyms of is not allowed here. You can get installed, however by seeming to not really understand the affect of having the uefi and a gpt partition table and the low graphic boot stuff you have a predicament.
[22:53] <gotpunk> wtf lol
[22:53] <Beldar> !wtf | gotpunk
[22:54] <mobileRoda> uhhhhmmm i said what the frick.
[22:54] <gotpunk> and i said where's the frog
[22:54] <Beldar> gotpunk, This is a world wide channel not your local cultural schema.
[22:54] <gotpunk> I wasn't confused.
[22:54] <mobileRoda> whos the fascist actually is what i said =3
[22:55] <k1l> gotpunk: please stick to technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[22:55] <Beldar> mobileRoda, look closer, you used an offensive acronym the bot just rellied on when another did the same.
[22:55] <gotpunk> Beldar started it.  He was being a dick.
[22:55] <Beldar> replied*
[22:56] <k1l> mobileRoda: please dont start a drama. stick to technical support and keep it family friendly then users in here will try to help you
[22:56] <Massachusset> Hi, how i can add server ?
[22:57] <Beldar> Massachusset, Install one.
[22:57] <anew> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4658 Jan  1 21:44 /var/www/vpn/./hma-vpn.sh can this be only executed by root ?
[22:57] <mobileRoda> id rather have a bricked computer than chastised for saying wtf. thanks but no thanks ill find help elsewhere. too bad the indian guy isnt here, he had me fixed in 5 min.
[22:57] <paralle21> anew: no
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> Massachusset: i think you're going to have to rephrase that question
[22:57] <anew> weird, i cant execute this remotely tho paralle21
[22:57] <bekks> Massachusset: Add server - to what?
[22:58] <paralle21> anew: what's the error?
[22:58] <anew> just doesnt run
[22:58] <Massachusset> Beldar, sorry, how i can join a new server in edit the adress ,
[22:58] <anew> it's inside a perl script
[22:58] <loki_> how i can get uuid of partition?
[22:58] <Beldar> Massachusset, Not sure myself.
[22:58] <Beldar> loki_, sudom blkid
[22:58] <Beldar> sudo*
[22:58] <bekks> loki_: partitions do not have UUIDs, filesystems do.
[22:59] <loki_> strange
[22:59] <loki_> i am trying to get uuid of swap
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> anew: while the script itself may be executable by everyone, its most likely calling something that can only be executed by root
[22:59] <loki_> and blkid is silent
[22:59] <loki_> it is not saying anything.
[22:59] <anew> yeah thats it hitsujiTMO
[22:59] <bekks> loki_: sudo blkid
[23:00] <loki_> yes i used sudo
[23:00] <paralle21> anew: Looks like this script requires arguments
[23:00] <bekks> loki_: then run: sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid
[23:00] <anew> how do u know that paralle21 ?
[23:01] <loki_> bekks, there no swap partiotion.
[23:01] <loki_> but i see it in cfdisk
[23:01] <bekks> loki_: you see a partition with the partition type swap - that does not mean it is a swap partition.
[23:01] <paralle21> anew: I google'd the script and found this
[23:01] <paralle21> anew: Usage: $0 [-l] [-p tcp|udp] [server name]
[23:01] <loki_> bekks, it is 100% my old swap partiotion
[23:01] <mr-rich> I have an Ubuntu box (12.04) that's at the login screen and I press the acpi power to shut it off ... it doesn't seem to work ... (it's a VM and I want to shut it down via a script) ... any ideas?
[23:02] <anew> oh nice lol
[23:02] <anew> yeah it does
[23:02] <loki_> i switched off it for some time.
[23:02] <anew> thought you were psychic
[23:02] <loki_> and now i can't mount it
[23:02] <loki_> bekks, myabe i can format it?
[23:02] <loki_> maybe *
[23:02] <bekks> loki_: swap cannot be mounted. Just run mkswap on it, and run swapon on it afterwards.
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: try mounting it first to see if theres an actual filesystem there.
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: oh wait you tried.
[23:04] <loki_> so can't understand, what have uuid?
[23:04] <loki_> why my swap partition have no uuid?
[23:04] <bekks> loki_: Filesystems, like ext4 have UUIDs.
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: maybe its an invalid swap filesystem.
[23:04] <bekks> loki_: Partitions itself never have UUIDs.
[23:05] <loki_> strange why then in fstab swap is mounted by uuid?
[23:05] <bekks> loki_: It is not mounted, it will be activated.
[23:05] <loki_> bekks, yes.
[23:05] <loki_> i meen why then swap have uuid?
[23:05] <Beldar> loki_, You have to understand that here some users are retentive on syntax IE words used and will not give an exact explanation inspite of their corrections.
[23:06] <bekks> loki_: It has a UUID when the partition contains a valid swap area.
[23:06] <bekks> loki_: If the swap area isnt valid, there is no UUID to be shown.
[23:06] <loki_> so i need to try mkswap yes?
[23:06] <bekks> loki_: Thats what I said above, yes.
[23:06] <chemist^> Hi everyone
[23:07] <nashant> I've set the launcher to auto-hide, but even when I ram the cursor right up against the side of the screen it won't show. Anyone know why?
[23:07] <chemist^> nashant, have you tried holding your mouse cursor there a couple of seconds?
[23:07] <Beldar> nashant, That autohide gui has a sensitivity bar to move.
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: the uuid allows you to reference that swap partition in the even that drive orders have changed... i.e. a new drive installed forcing what was /dev/sdb2 to /dev/sdc2.
[23:07] <nashant> chemist^: yup
[23:08] <Psiloeu> Yoyo HitsujiTMO
[23:08] <Psiloeu> At the store looking at a card can u help me I pme u
[23:08] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, i understand why i need uuid) anyway thx. after mkswap all work now.
[23:09] <loki_> but can't understand what happened then with old working swap.
[23:09] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO what do u think of trednet teg pcitxr
[23:09] <Psiloeu> it says its a realtek though :-(
[23:09] <bekks> loki_: It was invalidated somehow, in the past.
[23:10] <loki_> ok.
[23:10] <chemist^> Psiloeu, alfa :)
[23:10] <Beldar> loki_, Swap needs to have the correct UUID in fstab to mount, was or is it there and correct now. Or did you turn it off?
[23:10] <loki_> i changed uuid after mkswap in fstab.
[23:10] <Beldar> cool
[23:10] <loki_> bekks was right.
[23:10] <loki_> it was broken.
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: thats the same as what you have in the server already
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psiloeu: : thats the same as what you have in the server already
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: sorry, wrong person
[23:11] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, remeber my problem with i386?
[23:11] <loki_> i installed deb by hand.
[23:12] <Psiloeu> Ugh HitsujiTMO
[23:12] <Psiloeu> kk going to another store then now
[23:12] <mr-rich> Hello. I have an Ubuntu box (12.04) that's at the login screen and I press the acpi power to shut it off ... it doesn't seem to work ... (it's a VM and I want to shut it down via a script) ... any ideas?
[23:12] <Psiloeu> ill msg u soon
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: ahh cool
[23:13] <mr-rich> If I'm logged in, I get a dialog for shutdown that waits 60 seconds ...
[23:13] <mr-rich> then shuts down ...
[23:14] <mr-rich> Should be able to shutdown at the login screen ...
[23:14] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO going to another store now Pm u soon
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO>  Psiloeu cool
[23:15] <Beldar> mr-rich, You mentioned acpi power at the login, is this the icon top right for restart or shutdown?
[23:17] <mr-rich> bel3atar: Yes, it is ... It's a VM (VBox). I'm writing a script to automate shutting down VMs in case of a power outage ...
[23:18] <mr-rich> Beldar: Yes, it is ... It's a VM (VBox). I'm writing a script to automate shutting down VMs in case of a power outage ...
[23:18] <chemist^> mr-rich this is a virtualbox related question
[23:19] <Beldar> mr-rich, You might try #vbox as well.
[23:19] <chemist^> Beldar, tnx :)
[23:19] <Beldar> ;)
[23:19] <mr-rich> chalcedony: yes and no ... If M$ is at the login screen, pressing acpi shutdown works ... It doesn't work on Ubuntu ...
[23:19] <mr-rich> dammit ...
[23:20] <mr-rich> chemist^: yes and no ... If M$ is at the login screen, pressing acpi shutdown works ... It doesn't work on Ubuntu ...
[23:20] <bekks> mr-rich: Install the guest additions in the same version as vbox.
[23:20] <mr-rich> bekks: Installed ...
[23:21] <sagi__> wow, firts time in IRC in like 18 years...
[23:21] <bekks> mr-rich: In the same version?
[23:21] <mr-rich> bekks: Yup ... just  updated them today ...
[23:21] <bekks> mr-rich: So which vbox version are you running?
[23:21] <chemist^> sagi__, cool..i came a couple of weeks ago after 15 ;)
[23:21] <chemist^> welcome back :)
[23:22] <mr-rich> bekks: 4.2.20
[23:22] <bekks> mr-rich: I'd suggest updating to the latest stable version, 4.3.6, then.
[23:23] <mr-rich> bekks: it looks like an OS thing ... M$ will shutdown @ login screen ...
[23:23] <bekks> mr-rich: your . key is defective, too.
[23:23] <chemist^> :)
[23:24] <TheAndrewK> hmm
[23:24] <TheAndrewK> what does it mean when I am told "your CPUs had inconsistent variable MTRR settings probably your BIOS does not setup all CPUs."
[23:24] <mr-rich> bekks: I'm an elipsis freak ... bad habit of mine ... :)
[23:24] <chemist^> TheAndrewK, it means you have bad CPU settings in your BIOS maybe :)
[23:25] <TheAndrewK> hm okay
[23:25] <nashant> why do I have to bind the home directory when I'm settings up nfs?
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> TheAndrewK: you may need a bios update. most likely the cpu came out after the board was made
[23:26] <TheAndrewK> hitsujiTMO:huh weird. This was booting fine last week w/ same hardware.
[23:28] <OsTester> dose anyone know how to run Visual Studio under linux - not VM?
[23:28] <mr-rich> OsTester: Wine?
[23:28] <OsTester> dosent work...
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> OsTester: then you cant
[23:28] <OsTester> I need 2012+
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> OsTester: install windows
[23:29] <bekks> OsTester: Doesnt run in wine, so you have to use a vm.
[23:29] <OsTester> Thats what I thought
[23:30] <OsTester> thanks anyway
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> TheAndrewK: could be a sign of something else going wrong then. check bios settings. any other unusual messages in dmesg?
[23:32] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO look at pm
[23:33] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO tp link tg-3468
[23:34] <jaster> I wonder how many ubuntu users have tried other distros and still decided to stay with ubuntu
[23:35] <Left_Turn> i like ubuntu
[23:35] <chemist^> Psiloeu, does it really matter that much which ethernet card you buy? I think it's OK if you buy anyone as long as it's 1000 mbit
[23:36] <chemist^> Left_Turn, me too :)
[23:36] <Left_Turn> heh
[23:36] <Psiloeu> Chemistnim having a problem with th e driver
[23:36] <Psiloeu> The etho cards didnt work
[23:36] <Scunizi> Hi all.. I have onboard old nvidia graphics (8200) running the latest drivers. I want to put in a newer nvidia pci card.  What's the recommended path? Drop card in, reboot > disable onboard in bios > boot to system ??
[23:36] <chemist^> that's strange
[23:37] <chemist^> Scunizi, install drivers first
[23:37] <chemist^> then disable the onboard card
[23:37] <Scunizi> chemist^: drivers are installed already.. :)
[23:37] <chemist^> then yes :)
[23:37] <Scunizi> cool thanks chemist^
[23:37] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO intel ct desktop adapter expi9301ctblk
[23:38] <chemist^> but wait... you mentioned you have the latest drivers installed for your old card...i don't know if it's the same for you new one...
[23:38] <chemist^> oh well...
[23:38] <PublicStaticVoid> Eh
[23:39] <jaster> best to purge old drivers as they may conflict with new ones
[23:40] <oushua> hi there
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: hes an r8168 which just doesn't work with linux. he's gone to 3 shops now and every card in the shops user r8169, which again have similar issues. just managed to find an e1000 one
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> s/user/used
[23:43] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO im buying it now
[23:43] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, lol :D
[23:44] <AceFace> hello all!
[23:46] <oushua> does anyone know why avidemux keep crash on ubuntu 13.10? have not had this issue on 13.04.
[23:46] <AceFace> oushua, did you upgrade or clean install?
[23:46] <glitsj16> live ubuntu support hitting the streets during winter weather offensive .. that should make news somewhere
[23:46] <oushua> clean install..
[23:47] <AceFace> just curious, i have no clue! lol
[23:47] <AceFace> whats your audio hardware?
[23:47] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO this is the link http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1048_1052&item_id=022090
[23:47] <Psiloeu> Im buying it noq
[23:49] <AceFace> would anyone help me understand why my iscsi target would randomly fail?
[23:50] <AceFace> i get this in dmesg: [    8.030261] iscsi_trgt: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[23:55] <chemist^> is there a command in terminal to add a line to a file instead of opening it with an editor and manually adding it?
[23:55] <ROPA> oushua lots of bugs in 13.10, many programs just won't run. 13.04 won't be supported soon though and I don't know what I'm going to do.....there's a runor that 14.04 will be LTS...I sure hope it runs better than 13.10!!!!!
[23:55] <AceFace> echo "add this string to end of file" >> filename
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: appending to the bottom of a file or int he middle?
[23:55] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, well..i'd like to know both :P
[23:56] <KI7MT> chemist^, echo 'line-1' > ./tempfile.txt
[23:57] <KI7MT> chemist^, then to append a line echo 'line-2' >> ./tempfile.txt
[23:57] <Beldar> ROPA, without any details that is a specious remark, and this is support not #ubuntu-soapbox
[23:58] <chemist^> line-1 is on top and line-2 on bottom of file? or are these the actual numbers of lines?
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6717938/ this is how you can insert a line after the first line
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: if you want to do after the second, then its: 2a ... etc
[23:59] <banana2014> how do I make a RIC channel?
[23:59] <BillyZane> hi
[23:59] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[23:59] <HeaderFile> banana2014: just "join" to a new channel
[23:59] <PublicStaticVoid> does brazero have no option to not create a checksum... takes forever...
[23:59] <Beldar> banana2014, ask in #freenode