[23:33] <Arc> hey
[23:33] <Arc> does anyone know where bzr is on python3 support?
[23:33] <SamB> I don't think it's gotten anywhere really
[23:34] <Arc> its odd that while almost the entire python community has finished migrating now the vcs tools are still lagging
[23:34] <SamB> bzr is pretty dead-ish
[23:35] <SamB> did you see jelmer's blog post?
[23:35] <Arc> no
[23:35] <rozzin> Arc: Is Python 3k really supposed to entirely supersede 2.x?
[23:36] <maxb> That's the intent, as I understand it
[23:36] <Arc> rozzin: yes. 2.7 was released to aid in migration, but no more features will be added to 2.x
[23:36] <SamB> rozzin: they dropped the k, and I assume they were hoping to stop doing security updates to 2.7 at some point ...
[23:36] <Arc> there will never be a 2.8 so says guido, and i agree with that.
[23:36] <rozzin> Meh.
[23:37] <Arc> ive been using py3 as my /usr/bin/python for years just fine
[23:37] <Arc> and with both gnome and kde making the switch, and the major python web frameworks, etc... its only a matter of time before /usr/bin/python2 becomes unnecessary
[23:38] <Arc> im trying to trim down a raspberrypi image and looking at the things that rely on python2, it'd be a boon to be able to cut it out entirely
[23:38] <rozzin> It's like hearing "C++ is expected to replace C. All C developers are expected to migrate to C++", for me.
[23:39] <maxb> It's not really comparable, IMO
[23:39] <maxb> Although I have to admit I haven't even started writing Python 3 myself yet
[23:39] <Arc> rozzin: more like "Perl5 is expected to replace perl4.  All Perl developers are expected to migrate to Perl5"
[23:39] <maxb> Partly because I have to still deal with some ridiculously old installations at work
[23:39] <Arc> maxb: the differences are so subtle as to be almost ignorable.
[23:39] <Arc> its akin to going from python 2.4 to 2.6
[23:40] <Arc> a bigger jump than a minor, but no more than 2 or 3 minor revisions
[23:41] <rozzin> Arc: I don't know. Never knew Perl4.
[23:41] <maxb> At some point I'm probably going to have to sort out backported packages for Debian oldoldoldstable, if I'm going to use it at work :-/